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00:00 Hey, just a reminder if InfoWars gets shut down tomorrow you'll still be able to find us on X at Real Alex Jones and on Rumble. Just look for the Alex Jones Show we're broadcasting live on both platforms plus you'll find special reports and breaking news as it happens so check it out share the links and let the Democrat Deep State Party know We Will Never Be Silence InfoWars, tomorrow's news today. Welcome ladies and gentlemen to the Alex Jones Show I'm your host Harrison Smith sitting in for Alex Jones today we have a jam-packed show for you i'll be joined by Zachary Rell in the next hour talk about the pardons and the full fledged

01:05 freedom of the J6 defendants, one of two victories of the Trump administration so far. And I'll tell you, you can never take it away from him. You can never take away from Trump the fact that he did pardoned January Sixers as he promised and for that reason alone if i could go back in time I'd still vote for him even with the Iran war even with all of the other disappointments but we'll be getting into And whether or not this whole administration can be turned around and whether America has a future or not. There is some good news here, and I think we'll start the show today with just a series of

01:46 Not tweets, truths. Truth social posts from President Donald Trump I think i have them in order here we'll just go through his morning of posting He began bright and early at 7 12 am saying It's easy Tucker is a real low IQ person always easy to beat and highly overrated So are Megyn Kelly Candace Parentheses really dumb and mentally ill And bankrupt Alex Jones whose completely quote unquote fried There are others also. Then we have some that are very good, TrueMAGA all the way and Smart I should do a list of Good Bad and somewhere in the middle Wouldn't that be fascinating? President DJT Now i think we know you don't need to do a list The people you think are good and powerful and smart Are Mark Levin And Ben Shapiro And the people who you think are low IQ are the ppl who disagree with you It's not all that complicated actually I think we figured it out Now I wanna remind you

02:43 If you are a low IQ individual, you can always advertise the fact by going to thealexjonesstore.com getting one of these stylish low IQ hats just so people can know that they need to be patient with you okay? You are not sophisticated enough or intelligent enough to understand the highly complicated and nuanced view of Donald Trump that people who insult him bad, people who flatter him good. It's very it's you gotta be really low IQ not to understand that you can get that at the Alex Jones store dot com there's a whole line of merchandise okay so he starts off insulting a bunch of people who were his biggest supporters and we'll touch on that again because

03:29 bit of a misconception about what's going on with people leaving Trump, why this might be. But then he's got the big news here at 806 AM Iran has just announced that the Strait of Iran is fully open and ready for full passage thank you I think it means the straight of Hormuz but yes we get the point okay so it's open it's ready for all passage That's amazing. He says in all caps, the Strait of Hormuz is completely open and ready for business in full passage but the naval blockade will remain in full force and effect as it pertains to Iran only until such time as our transaction with Iran is 100% complete this process should go very quickly and that most of the points are already negotiated Thank you for your attention on this matter President Donald J Trump Okay so

04:16 Maybe a lot can happen in 21 minutes, but all right. It's fully open it's ready for passage also it is closed and will remain closed until we get everything that we want and we've gotten everything that we want but it has to be finalized But basically is finalized so the straight is open except that it's closed And the war is over, but there's still a lot more war to go The US will get all nuclear quote-unquote dust created by our great b2 bombers The USA will get all nuclear dust created by our great B-2 bombers. No money will exchange hands in any way, shape or form this deal is in no way subject to Lebanon either but the US will separately work with Lebanon and deal with the Hezbollah situation in an appropriate manner

05:00 Israel will not be bombing Lebanon any longer. They are all caps prohibited from doing so by the USA enough is enough Thank you, President Donald J Trump also Joe Kent was right So I guess what you're saying is Joe Kent was right all along? Is that what you're saying Trump That's what I heard alright welcome back Ladies and gentlemen, this is the Alex Jones Show. I'm your host Harrison Smith sitting in for Alex today. I'll be joined by Zach Rell in the next hour We're talking about the January 6th Pardons The full-fledged freedom of the January Sixers has now been achieved very good news But of course we're starting with the series of announcements from Donald Trump today sort of what to make of them supposedly there's been a ceasefire deal there has been a at least 10 day pause

05:50 But Trump did something unique out of all these messages that we have. He's railing again about Tucker Carlson and Alex Jones, he is saying the straight is open but also that it's closed. But I think the most important thing in all of these posts are this last line about Israel saying that Israel is all caps prohibited from doing so by the USA. They're now prohibited from bombing Lebanon enough as enough thank you President DJT So if this is accurate, if this is really what's happening. Now again have my doubts because we've pointed out Donald Trump doesn't often make these hardcore no nuance statements. Usually everything from Trump as will see we're negotiating that could be this could be that he doesn't like to sort of firmly set down what he believes because can be awkward if it's proven wrong

06:49 But in multiple cases, he has said very strident and absolute statements about Israel that have not come to pass. For example we've played the video quite a bit on The War Room of Donald Trump saying in no uncertain terms there will be no West Bank settlements they will not be annexing the West Bank Enough we're putting a stop to it and since then there has been basically a continuous massive expansion of West Bank settlements total abject terrorism in those places they are annexing huge parts of the West Bank so Trump is often humiliated in this way by Israel. I don't like it I like seeing Trump humiliated because he's supposed to represent America And I would think that when America says something in an absolute way

07:35 that Israel would be forced to adhere to that. But obviously they don't feel the need, to bend themselves to our will. They feel quite confident in their ability to bend our will to theirs. So here again he says, Israel will not be bombing Lebanon any longer they are prohibited from doing so by the US enough is enough What does that actually mean? Does that mean if Israel bombs Lebanon we'll go to war with Israel? Almost certainly not! So what is there to stop Israel from continuing to bomb Lebanon Nothing, basically. Basically the agreement of Israel that I guess they've agreed to stop bombing Lebanon are they even gonna stop? I mean, just don't see the mechanism by which we have to stop Israel from doing this. I guess where betting it all on their patience and goodwill so will see how that goes again.

08:35 I don't know, I don't really know what to make of this because so much that has come out of the Trump administration about this war. This is the problem right? It's The Boy Who Cried Wolf it's just the actual natural and appropriate response to being lied too over and over as you stop trusting the people doing it. So it's Friday usually Friday afternoons are when Trump likes to launch a big sneak attack. Think be a little bit too on the nose to do right now to announce a ceasefire in the morning and then break it in the afternoon. That might be a bridge too far for the current administration, but I also wouldn't put it past them and we can look at the so-called agreement, we can look what people are saying but we can also look at what is actually happening around the world and obviously war is still very much in the future with no sign

09:30 of stopping. We are moving huge amounts of personnel into the Middle East, we're moving huge amounts of equipment into the Middle East for a reason right? We're closing down our Syrian bases and moving our personnel that was in those bases to forward positions near Iran for a reason right? We'll see, we'll see. But Trump says more he says now that the straight of Hormuz situation is open I receive a call from NATO asking if we would need some help? I told them to stay away unless they just want to load up their ships with oil They were useless when needed a paper tiger President DJT and again well get into this little bit more because A bunch of European leaders just held like a 40 nation emergency summit To deal with the Strait of Hormuz

10:23 And it's just, you kind of have to separate yourself and look at this in a bird's eye view. Remind yourselves of how this got started and why we're in this situation because on the face of it, it seems like what's happening is that Europe is trying to deal with this action by Iran and trying to figure out how to contend with this Iranian action. But it was America that started the war, is America that sort of forced Iran's hand they hadn't closed the Hormuz Strait until we launched the attack that we did. It doesn't make any sense or maybe they're saving Israel for last like QAnon says I could be at that could very well be

11:08 So Trump says Iran has agreed to never close the Strait of Hormuz again. It will no longer be used as a weapon against the world, President Donald J Trump ever again, never again they promised they crossed their heart and they hope to die. They made a pinky promise with Donald Trump so that's that there's nothing physically stopping them from shutting the Strait of Hormuz at any moment but they promised they won't right? He says a great and brilliant day for the world DJT Yeah, nuts. Hey whatever stops you from waging the war that you started and you've been perpetuating for the last four weeks six weeks whatever it is yeah it's a great day! It's a great day for you to just do what you should have done a week in and are we supposed to celebrate this again? It's like... You were the ones who were doing it why is this being celebrated like a great thing

12:05 You are the ones who are keeping it going so you can't act like this is a victory And it's clearly not a victory because it's clearly not America and Israel that are setting the terms for this discussion, and if they wanted Iran could Disagree with this or if Israel keeps bombing Lebanon. The whole thing will fall to nothing and No matter what I have the distinct feeling that this war is just gonna start up again Maybe in two weeks maybe Six months maybe they've looked at the numbers and thought gee if we really want to get this done It is actually best to pump the brakes a little bit allow ourselves to rebuild some of the stuff. We've lost over the last couple of months of Conflict and then start it up again after the midterms Yeah, maybe that's the calculation going on There's a lot of reshuffling happening at the highest levels and will get into some of the behind-the-scenes conflicts going on

13:02 Okay, but Trump is celebrating his defeat against Iran. Thank you to Pakistan and its great Prime Minister and Field Marshal two fantastic people again This deal is not tied in any way to Lebanon But we will make Lebanon great again as well like what are you even supposed to make about this? Like can an adult tell us what's going on again I don't you know What are we supposed to do with this? What are we supposed to do with this he literally is like since this long tweet at 8 57 a.m talking about how they're gonna work with Lebanon and deal with the Hezbollah situation in an appropriate manner. Israel will not be bombing Lebanon any longer, they're prohibited from doing so

13:46 And then like an hour later, he's like actually this deal hasn't anything to do with Lebanon. It's got nothing to do with Lebanon it's totally separate and distinct so it sounds like there is kind of like hedging his statements where he's going you know Israel will not bomb Lebanon but if they do that's fine because that's not a part in this agreement the deal still has to hold even though their bombing Lebanon which would violate the agreement but they won't do that cuz I told them not too but if they do its fine what are we supposed make of this? Is it a part of the agreement or not? Because Iran has said, it has to be part of the agreement and they're the ones dictating terms. Yeah Joe Kent responds, It appears that a historic deal is within reach and will hold if President Trump is willing to enforce the restrictions he's placed on Israel This post indicates a good start but must be followed by actually limiting US military aid to Israel And yeah I mean

14:40 Again, it's just kind of frustrating because you know that the people that were in favor of this war and championing this war and calling you a panic-in for opposing this war are going to treat this like its victory. Like its somehow proves us wrong We are still in a worse position than we were before the war started Even if the Strait of Hormuz opens which still seems up in the air It was open before the war started Nothing has actually benefited any of us. And I've got stories today that already the damaged energy infrastructure is going to take at least two years to get back on track, and that doesn't even count the possibility of empty harvests next year in places like Australia because they can't get fertilizer they need to plant this year or next season whatever it is

15:34 He says again, this deal is not tied in any way to Lebanon. Iran with the help of USA has removed or is removing all sea mines. Thank you to Saudi Arabia UAE and Qatar for your great bravery and help President Donald J Trump. And then goes on to say the failing New York Times fake new CNN and others just don't know what to do they're desperately looking for a reason to criticize president Donald J Trump on the Iran situation but just can't find it why don't they say at the right time job well done Mr President start back start to gain back their credibility? What did you achieve honestly what did you achieve We'll look into the ceasefire details, but it's just crazy man. I just don't even know what to make of it at this point. It's just a total false reality that he's desperate to project on everybody. There was another one I didn't even see from yesterday who is dumber Tucker Carlson or Joe Kent? It's very interesting. I met Joe Kent at Dover Air Force Base along with numerous others who lost their loved ones in war said hello to all the families. Yeah, but he was right so if you listen to him early on

16:37 We wouldn't have gone through four weeks of disaster. We wouldn't have lost American lives, we wouldn't be in this situation at all. We could've focused on domestic issues you would not cratered in the polls. You wouldn't have had a bunch people turn against you for your obviously ill-advised actions and then you wouldn't have to flip out and try defend yourself against them further severing yourself from a gigantic and influential base of supporters. You should probably listen to Joe Kent, you should probably bring him back, you should probably apologize to him say gee Joe your right turns out you were right turns out the only way out of this is to restrict Israel's actions where we don't have the same interests as Israel and getting into this Iran conflict has not turned out our benefit it's been basically a complete and total disaster endlessly on every front now

17:29 That's not gonna happen, obviously. Even though it should he is going to continue to berate and mock and again just try in really ill-advised and petulant way to get back at Joe Kent for being correct. I just put a new video in there this is another statement he has made about Joe Kent or let us go to clip 27 here this is Trump on Joe Kent Who again, I just want to remind you. His big point Joe Kent's big point was that Israel got us into this war is real pressured us into this it was not for American interest that's been acknowledged by everybody who literally just repeating with the Secretary of State and the Speaker of the House and President Trump himself. Just literally everybody the stories that came out afterwards that it's everybody knows now Israel absolutely

18:21 Pressured Trump to get into war in Iran, presented him with the promise that it would be a quick and easy mission. Lied to him about that said they were going to attack anyway so sort of blackmailing Trump into doing it And the whole time Joe Kent was saying this isn't in our interest, we should not be doing what Israel wants just because Israel wants it. And if we want peace in the region, the one thing we have to do is restrain Israel that's been his constant refrain every interview he's done that's the pointy hammers We have to constrain Israel. We have to put real limitations on Israel which we can because they depend on us Because they require our weapons and our defense They have to do what we say

19:04 leverage to create peace in the region for our benefit and the benefit of everybody, not just the Israelis. And he's been proven right. He has been absolutely proven right as Trump comes out saying that deal with Hezbollah situation in an appropriate matter Israel will not be bombing Lebanon any longer they are prohibited from doing so by USA enough is enough So Joe Kent was right Joe Kent was right you were wrong and that makes you mad it's going to clip 27 now Look, I'm not a fan of the guy. If you look at and you never cover this if you look at his truth for whatever he went on with his ex or true. If you look at his shoes or his statements, it was all for everything. All of us suddenly he wasn't He was a man that I met at Dover. He came in as wife was killed. He remarried fairly quickly

20:06 His wife was killed, and I felt badly for him. He ran in for Congress he lost he read for Congress again And they lost they said you know he's a guy nice guy seemed like a very nice guy. I met him he was Pretty heartbroken pretty but I said you know it's a shame he ran for Congress twice Call them up give me a job in the White House smart They gave him a job in the White House and this is what he does to me. You know, being a nice guy doesn't pay off too much. Think of it! He loses twice in Congress ran not very good campaigns should have won

20:47 But he loses twice. How do I get him? I have my people call him because I didn't deal with it for the most part I saw a couple of times, but I never dealt with them at all. I had no idea his ideology was left or right whatever Whatever it is. I can say this He said very strongly that Iran is not a threat Iran's been a threat for 47 years and there's not a country in the world that doesn't agree with me on that So I take this guy Joe Kent who lost twice for Congress pretty badly and tough, and it was devastated. And I know that he lost his wife. So instead of letting him live out his life, I brilliantly have my people call him and offer them a job in security essentially in the White House. Now what does he do? He goes out and he says that Iran is not a threat

21:41 to get publicity. Now, he probably signed up with CNN or maybe signed up with your division of Newsmax I don't know but probably signed up with CNN or somebody But if you look at his tweets X's or Truce whatever he uses i dont know because i dont follow him What he said is 100% he agrees with me all of a sudden. He leaves I never knew we had a problem now, I hear they're looking at him for leaking that's possible But just see you and it said just to put it the rest. He lost twice badly. He also lost his wife He's remarried since he lost his wife. I felt badly for so I told my people reach out to give them a job at the White House This is the thanks again any other

22:29 So again, the things that you got was that Joe Kent literally sacrificed his own career to tell you the truth. You didn't listen to him. You got yourself into this mess now you've basically had to do exactly what Joe Kent suggested that you did in the first place and you could just tell like from that it's it becomes clear like what information is being fed to Trump And he's like, I didn't know he had a problem. Like I had no idea it's like yeah because when he was in office In the position that you put him in trying to do The obligations of that role and fulfill that responsibility By telling you the truth about the intelligence That was actually Verified not the lies told you by Israel He was kept away from you You had no idea that he was trying to inform you about this Trying to expose the lie Because the people around you Kept him from you

23:21 And then when he quit, he actually resigned not because Iran was not a threat but because Iran was not an imminent threat that required military intervention. That was false intelligence given to you by Israel to trick you into doing what they wanted even if it was against America's interest just like Alan Dershowitz said I told Bibi Netanyahu we got to do whatever it is You know will handle Donald Trump will take care of Donald Trump Because yeah, there's this conflict. There's a lot of people that want to do what's right for Israel but then there's this you know side effect thing that it hurts America But we'll get over that We'll get past that so you're surrounded by anti-american Israel first Subversive elements who are lying to you To get you into a war That's not good for America and based on false premises Joe Kent desperately trying to tell you that to avert a catastrophic war

24:17 You are completely kept away from him when he finally resigns and actually sacrifices his own career in a desperate attempt to get this truth out into the public, and specifically to you. That's also apparently kept from you because you're convinced that Joe Kent just said Iran is not a threat and is a leftist or something? Okay, I guess yeah. I guess not wanting America to go to war for a foreign state in a suicidal endeavor at a time when our very existence as nation is tenuous as it is that makes you a leftist that makes you a liberal because remember there's only one dividing line between Left and right and its Israel okay if you are a transgender open borders

25:04 pedophile, but you like Israel. You are a Republican you're on the right wing. You're good. You're smart. You're intelligent your patriotic Okay if you are a 100th generation of if you're a Native American who's never had family off this continent who is Your hardcore right-wing on absolutely everything goes to church every Sunday prays before you go to sleep You know, powerfully commits to biological reality and all this other stuff. But you oppose Israel? Well you're a flaming leftist! You're a leftist and a liberal and you hate America

25:44 And I'm not even kidding, that is how people have been indoctrinated. That is what they actually believe. I'll show you a video on the other side of a guy who's convinced that Candace Owens and Alex Jones and everybody were all in a cabal because we just secretly hate America. I guess that's the best they can come up with because it makes no sense. Because it makes absolutely no sense if I hated America What I would be doing would be blackmailing Trump into getting into war with Iran. I'd be doing everything I could to destroy the credibility of the Republican Party knowing it's, as crappy as it is, it is the only political party who actually pretends to give a damn about American heritage and I want them inextricably bound to the horrors and genocide carried out by Israel

26:37 I'd make that the dividing line. If i really want to destroy America, I would tell everybody that if you want to support the patriotic American party, you first and foremost and above all must support the genocidal murderous cancerous little state of Israel And that's exactly what's happening it's on purpose because the people who are tricking Trump into going for war with Iran genuinely want America to go down. They actually do want America destroyed because they see it as future competition for their Israeli super state there in our country, they were born in America raised in America. They call themselves American. They have American passports just like Alan Dershowitz. They are loyal to a foreign state

27:19 They're building up that state at the expense of America. They are surrounding Trump and humiliating him endlessly, and keeping him away desperately and very effectively keeping him totally separate and siloed away from the people who are trying to tell them the truth and trying to stop him from humiliating himself and destroying our country for the sake of these spies, these foreign spies. We'll be back on other side to show you what Netanyahu has to say about all this. He doesn't care what the ceasefire says, he's taking over Lebanon. Big surprise! I'm very pleased to announce two new great products at TheElectionStore.com that will 100% work and deliver energy clarity and also when you want to relax great calm rest and sleep now a lot of our products are very complex game-changing cutting edge you name it but

30:16 hard to even cover because of just how inverted absolutely everything is. And how out of whack it is with our historical understanding of the way geopolitics works, and again, it's not about any sort of preconceived notions or who was doing what? Just looking at a strictly in an objective way, looking strictly in an objective way. It's obvious that Israel is the bad guys like what they've been doing in any regard. And I mean, just every day there's more and more evidence of that to the point where you've got the Israeli government condemning photographs of their own people is really gotten into a crazy degree as from Ambassador Jonathan Pellet.

31:12 We strongly condemn the manipulative use of the recent cover of Lespresso. The image distorts the complex reality with which Israel must coexist, promoting stereotypes and hatred. Responsible journalism must be balanced and fair." And this is in response to a cover story from Italian magazine called L'Espresso. It's a story called The Abuse in Italian, l'Abuso I think And the cover image is this visceral image of an Israeli settler almost baring his teeth like a chimpanzee as he holds a phone up, filming a crying Palestinian woman. Kruv you can find this image and actually we have more video of the guy because he's a regular sort of fixture almost a celebrity there in the West Bank

32:04 settlements. There's the actual photo, so this is you know they're saying how dare you? How dare you show this image of reality and there's video of this happening So it's sort of a good starting point understanding the mindset Here's a photo of what's actually happening They recognize that what's actually happening is viscerally evil like they're not sitting there going oh This is misconstrued the way this works It should- They're just saying hey You're not supposed to show this part You're not supposed to show this part of what's actually going on, the functional reality of how our settlement operates and who is doing it. How they feel about it? Who its affecting? Your supposed to hide all that your suppose to disguise all that and your fault for showing people the reality It's not our fault for participating in it That sort of mindset we are working with here In other words

32:59 They want it to keep going. They know the bad thing is happening and they understand that it can only happen in secret, that if people knew in a widespread way about what they were doing, people would demand that it stop and they'd stand up to stop it so secrecy Is the only way that they get this done? So they're infuriated that The truth is being told about it just a constant we see In our world And of course I can show you videos again for just how about from today we go to clip number six here. This is Israeli soldiers put up barbed wire and shot tear gas at Palestinian children who are trying to go to school and like it really is like cartoonishly evil, its type of stuff that would make really powerful anti-Semitic blood libels but it's just what's actually happening

33:56 It's like, yeah think of just the most sort of senselessly evil thing to do and then it's just what they do. Like what's the problem with Palestinian children going to school? And they're like, they're Palestinians so we hate them and want to kill them and this is as close as we can get to killing him right out in the open. So you can see they move up the fence, plant the Israeli flag and just encroach, encroach, encroach this once again directly against the explicit orders of Donald Trump, explicit. He said they will not take any more of the West Bank there will not be any more annexing I think he actually said the same thing in that clip. He said enough is enough. The same thing he tweeted earlier today about truth social doubt

34:40 about Lebanon. Enough is enough." Well, you said enough was enough when it came to the West Bank and it's only- the violence in the annexation of the West Bank has only increased So let's play that video again We'll leave the audio on so you can hear people actually describe what's going on Let's watch This is the path these Palestinian children in the Israeli-occupied West Bank normally take to get to school. But on Monday, they didn't make it to class due to this newly installed barbed wire fence that villagers say was put up by Israelis from the nearby Carmel settlement

35:20 The school kids were seen making do, reading and playing alongside the fence as Israeli soldiers on top of the hill looked on. The Yesha Council — a body that represents West Bank settlers — told Reuters QUOTE "...A barrier was put in place to protect the residents of Carmel...in coordination with Israeli security authorities after repeated attempted incursions into Carmel." It said there were other routes the school kids could take, but Khalil Hathalin, the head of Amal Kare Council said the road they've been asked to take is too dangerous as it's only 300 meters away from the settlement fence. One Israeli human rights group said the barbed wire fenc was part of a coordinated campaign by settlers and the military to intimidate Palestinians and drive them from their land

36:12 In addition to the fence, Palestinians said Israeli soldiers had also fired tear gas causing several children to experience breathing difficulties. In a statement the Israeli military said they used riot dispersal means against adults who it said had tried to reach the settlement's security perimeter The military acknowledged children were present but said they were not targeted The expansion of Jewish settlements in the West Bank has surged under the current Israeli government, the most right-wing in the country's history. The Israeli military has erected dozens of new checkpoints across the West Bank and established permanent and temporary roadblocks. Now I want to remind you that Hamas doesn't exist in the West Bank. The West Bank wasn't a part of October 7th they aren't Gaza

37:06 But they're being treated like they are, obviously with the intention of ethnically cleansing the entire area and killing anybody that doesn't want to move now. I want to remind you, the West Bank is where the birthplace of Jesus is. It's where there are people who are literally the oldest Christian communities in the world they're the ones now being targeted and driven out of their land so... They're not Hamas, they're not even Muslims! They're Christian Palestinians who were being viciously attacked on a continual basis by Israeli settlers who are protected by the Israeli army and if the Palestinians try in any way to fight back, they'll simply be killed. If not kidnapped, imprisoned and tortured in ways that I don't even feel comfortable discussing Totally horror filled Now again this is all just sort of laying the groundwork so you can understand how absurd it is on top of everything

38:05 That this is the country that we are sacrificing everything for. It would be crazy already if we were doing this for a place like Ireland, right? As much as I love Ireland they've never done anything to anybody as far as i can tell. Aggressive attacks against anybody absolutely not They sort of have the cleanest record you could ask for in terms of imperialism or abuse of foreigners, or their neighbors. Ireland doesn't have a history of that. If we were doing for Ireland what we're currently doing for Israel, I'd still be against it on a nationalistic basis because it's not our country and why are we doing all this for this foreign country? This doesn't make any sense. We shouldn't do this."

38:48 But there's something a bit more heinous and despicable about it. When you know that the country we are doing this for is not just engaged in questionable military behavior, their entire history is nothing but that. But from 50 years before they were a country they were already running terrorist games. They invented terrorism to create Israel And it has never moved away from that. Every prime minister of Israel have all been members of terrorist gangs, the current leadership of Israel multiple of them have been convicted for literal terrorism like Ben Gavir and Smotrik look up their history when they were in their 20s they were caught building chemical weapons to use on civilians

39:41 But because that's what Israel is all about, they weren't charged like weren't convicted and are now running the country with exactly the same mindset. It is so insane that America is a part of this it is so against all of our values. It is hard to describe because of how cartoonishly evil it really is. I mean we can just, again i didn't even collect these like being like i'm going to talk about how evil Israel this is just it's every day! It's every day there's 10 examples. I usually don't even show them, I usually don't even talk about them but yeah I could spend all show every show

40:22 Just showing you clips of Israelis being the most evil people you've ever seen. I mean we go to another one here, I just happen to have this one today clip 32 Talking about maternity ward terrorists because you're a terrorist if you're not Jewish according to these people that's literally the dichotomy they operate under let's watch I'll read along here. He says, Halabi was proud. I catch the department, I think the orthopedic department approximately 150 and killed them in a hospital at the same time in the maternity ward 300 terrorists were born 300 why? And this guy says their children not terrorist he says yeah terrorists no they're children

41:01 No, no. They're terrorists you understand? Doesn't matter that they are literally newborns in the maternity ward. They've never been outside there so young haven't even opened their eyes yet their terrorist and they have to be killed they deserved to be killed it's a sin to let them live according to these people again it would be one thing if we were doing all of this for foreign country that was a great nice wonderful country I'd still be against it We're doing this for people that literally think I am a terrorist the moment i'm born. Because there's in their dichotomy, it's not America and Israel on one side and Hamas and Iran on the other It's America- it's Israel on one side America AND Iran AND Europe AND Turkey And all of their neighbors on the other side! It's them versus everyone else

41:57 And you have to have that mindset. You can see how deeply, thoroughly convinced they are of this mindset because they advertise it and talk about it like its normal. And you have to have that level of dehumanization of the other in order to say things like there are 300 newborn terrorists in the maternity ward we liquidated. I'm telling you, the thing is How many Nazi movies have you watched? How many times has this exact type of behavior been hammered into your mind that it's the height of evil and yet, you can't recognize it because its Israel. You're lying! You just-you're a bad person yeah. Might as well...this guy might as well be our president at this point The grimacing chimp Jew

42:50 It's basically, it's representative of our soul as it's been twisted beyond recognition. Let's go to clip 11 here this is in Lebanon again a secular state whose the construct of their state one of the three main positions has to be occupied by a person of a different religion I can't remember exactly what the cutout is what the arrangement is but it's something like The president is always going to be a Christian The prime minister is always going to be a Shiite and the speaker of the house is always gonna be Sunni like they are a multi-faith Republic, which is especially ridiculous when you hear Israel's the only democracy in the Middle East It's like there's a republic directly next door that by the way was majority Christian until like the 1980s and as a direct consequence of Israel's Attack on Lebanon in the 80s. Not only was Hezbollah created course hundreds of American Marines died in this conflict

43:46 And it became a Muslim country directly as a direct consequence. And the Jewish community in Lebanon was eradicated and destroyed by Israeli air strikes on their synagogue, okay? Make sense of any of this from an Israeli perspective you can't unless you're just like yeah we want to kill them We will kill them all we lie about it and then we keep killing like that's it That's the argument That's the moral stance of theirs There is no justification for any of this And again, I guess whatever. We'll move on and we could go back and talk about regarding the 1983 Beirut barracks bombing that killed 241 Americans. The Israelis had intelligence on the operation they neglected to share with the Americans then as the then Mossad director Nehum Ademani reportedly said at the time were not there to protect Americans

44:37 So, 241 Marines were killed by a truck bomb. This was before Hezbollah really existed people say they started in 1982. They weren't a thing and didn't announce their existence until 1985 but obviously there was an upswell of local militia activity following the invasion of Lebanon by Israel in 1982. And it ended with this truck bomb at the Marine barracks But rather than pass on these details to their US counterparts, so Mossad knew. A Mossad informant in Beirut passed on information about a Mercedes truck being outfitted by radical Shiite Muslims to carry an exceptionally large quantity of high explosives because it's unusually large explosive capability, Mossad officials felt that there were only a few logical targets one which must be the U.S compound

45:24 But rather than pass on these details to their US counterparts, Mossad decided to send only a standard warning which was all but useless. We're not there to protect Americans, Ostrowski quotes Mossad director Nehum Admani as saying they're a big country send only the regular information On October 23rd 1983 a similar truck smashed into the Marine barracks killing 241 servicemen The general attitude about the Americans wrote Ostrosky was hey They want to stick their nose in this Lebanon thing let them pay the price greatest allies right For 47 years, Iran has been trying to kill Americans. Yeah with Israeli help like a it's not our responsibility to look after the Americans if they wanna get their nose you know if they want to poke their noses into our business, they'll pay the price that's the attitude of the Israelis towards America transformed a little bit in the intervening 40 years or so because now you have to stick your nose in our business You have to stay here and fight for us or I will kill your president or something

46:25 And of course, all of this is basically just a giant farce. I guess since we're on topic let's go to clip 11 here. This happening in Lebanon again, Lebanon secular state Hezbollah is a militia that operates within Lebanon but Lebanon is not Hezbollah they are not Hamas and Hezbollah is not Hamas and Hezbollah despite being smeared as a terrorist organization doesn't really attack civilians tries very hard not to In fact, I can think of one example in a very long time Hezbollah's missiles actually hitting civilians and it was a misfired rocket that was hit by an interceptor that killed some Druze people. And Israel made a big deal out of it because they wanted to use the Druze to attack Hezbollah, and Hezbollah basically came out and apologized and said you know it's an accident but anyway the point is we're not talking about a justified war here even if their tactics were appropriate

47:25 It's they're just waging a war against a bunch of civilians. But here is video of them deliberately targeting paramedics over and over again in multiple double strike attacks on civilians, let us watch. The Israeli military today launched three consecutive attacks on three different teams of paramedics all operating in the southern Lebanese town of Mefadoun. And what we heard from the Lebanese health ministry was that first there was a paramedic team that as is normal responded to an emergency call they were going to the site of an Israeli air strike where there were wounded people they needed to rescue and as they were arriving to Mefadoun, they were hit by an Israeli drone strike

48:14 killing two paramedics at that site and wounding others. And then the paramedic sent yet another team in order to rescue that first team, and as they were arriving to town another Israeli strike hit that team and wounded three of those paramedics." So then the civil defense decided to send yet a third team in order to rescue the first and second teams. They were also hit when arriving to town, another two paramedics were killed in that third strike and more were wounded. The Lebanese health ministry has condemned this as a blatant violation of international law, saying medical facilities should never be at target under the Geneva Conventions. We're still waiting for comment from the Israeli military on exactly what it was targeting in these strikes and we know from the past that Israel has accused to Hezbollah militant group that it is fighting a war with in the south of using medical facilities and ambulances as cover for its militant activities but it has not provided evidence of this

49:13 So far in this war, Israeli strikes have killed more than 91 health workers so far according to the Lebanese Health Ministry. Again they're just brutally murdering innocent civilians in Lebanon is just terror bombing and a pretty heinous fashion but a lot of people are looking at the current ceasefire they're seeing how so like this what I mean is like typically In world that made sense The country doing that would be the bad guy. There'd be no question, we'd all be aligned against them is why it's so confusing as you've got this one country that just everywhere and constantly Gaza just murder fest genocide there West Bank just vicious and brutal annexing of land that's not theirs obviously they're doing insane stuff in Syria they're just murdering everybody in Lebanon and it's like looking at this you would think

50:08 That everybody in the world would be aligned against them and they must be some, they must be like Germany. It must be like an industrial powerhouse that we just can't stop but no it's literally entirely because of the manipulation of our political system that allows them to do this and its all inverted there are the bad guys and they're not going to stop trying to take over Lebanon. I don't care what the ceasefire says, they don't care what the ceasefire says anyway." Here's Benjamin Netanyahu clip number 19 saying Israel occupation forces will not return to the previously established border of Lebanon. They have annexed a large portion of Lebanon and intend to stay there in violation of the ceasefire agreement so it doesn't exist let's watch

50:47 I'll read along here. He says, we have an opportunity to make a historic peace agreement with Lebanon President Trump intended to invite me and the president of Lebanon to try to advance this agreement This opportunity exists because since the war of independence he's talking about his war of independence We have fundamentally changed the balance of power in Lebanon We dismantled the beepers. We destroyed the massive stockpile of 150,000 rockets and missiles that Nasrallah prepared to devastate the hills. You probably should have used them and we eliminated Nasrallah. And this balance has shifted in such a way that in the past month, we started receiving calls from Lebanon to hold direct peace talks between us and them something that hasn't happened in over 40 years I welcomed this call and agreed to a timeout

51:35 or, more accurately a temporary ceasefire of 10 days to try to advance the agreement we began discussing during the ambassadors meeting in Washington. For these peace talks We have two demands first the disarmament of Hezbollah Second a sustainable peace agreement Peace through strength To achieve the ceasefire, Hezbollah insisted on two conditions. The first condition Israel must withdraw from all Lebanese territory up to the international border. The second condition a ceasefire under the framework of quiet for quiet

52:12 He says, I did not agree to either of these conditions. Indeed these two conditions are not acceptable. We are staying in Lebanon in a reinforced security zone this is not the five points that existed before the lion's roar this is a security zone that starts at the sea and continues to Mount Dove and the Hermon Foothills up to the Syrian border, a security zone 10 kilometers thick which is much stronger. Much more robust, much more continuous and much more solid than what we had before so we can take it down. So he says we're not leaving. We're not leaving. We are taking over this land that were illegally occupying they did just command of the bunch civilians flee their home and then bomb them to smithereens which is like so much less

52:56 than what Russia did in Ukraine that started that whole war. The outrage we'd constantly hear about the bigger country is invading the smaller country, don't you understand? That this is a matter of sovereign land and it's like again we told you at the time these people don't give a damn about that they clearly just don't have principles It doesn't matter to them What is good for Israel is good What is bad for Israel is bad That is their morality And that's where it exists And we can get into it more because I'm not the only one recognizing this. Responsiblestatecraft.org says, Lebanon talks are a farce disguising something much more sinister. He says in essence what Israel and the US seek is not a peace deal between Israel and Lebanon but an agreement to turn Lebanon's government into something like the Palestinian Authority by enlisting it to be Israel security subcontractor in the north which is simply not achievable

58:35 and you entire Benji Shapiro, the entire Israel First crowd. The commander in chief of the United States military had to go on a social media platform to tell the world that we're not playing games anymore with America's greatest ally This deal is in and I'm quoting the commander-in-chief this deal is in no way subject to Lebanon either But the USA will separately work with Lebanon and deal with the Hezbollah situation in an appropriate manner Israel will not be bombing Lebanon any longer They are prohibited from doing so by the United States of America enough is enough. I don't know what could be more humiliating because in this entire war

59:22 The instigators of additional action that have dragged this in deeper and deeper and deeper has been Bibi Netanyahu, America's greatest ally. This is finally President Trump putting a stop to it in front of the world ordering them because they've done behind the scenes before I guess what Israel didn't pay attention they're going to do what they're gonna do we ain't gonna do it any longer you gonna do it on your own nickel and you can do it at your own risk this could be if properly executed by the United States military and the United States government could be a landmark moment. And of course, Tel Aviv Levin and Benji Shapiro and all their acolytes and Miriam Adelson and everybody they're all up in arms are gonna be over President Trump he had to go out enough is enough take your number two pencil out and underline that enough is enough our magnificent military 18 year old 1921 year old kids men and women

1:00:26 Hispanic, African American Asian Americans whites have delivered this and it's time to stop the games. The Middle East is a sideshow in Israel is a sideshow to a sideshow and its time to stop the carnival finish this and do it like the American military just did it he gave you a tool what Scott Besson has been talking about ultimate economic warfare You shut him down. Now let's make sure everybody gets to the table, let's get this whole thing sorted and lets not be writing big checks and lets get our money out of here." I think President Trump finally had a belly full of this. President Trump as they say when he says no more games...no games so he just put BB on notice No Games Gotta tell you couldn't be more humiliating

1:01:20 Everybody on the Israel First Project, all your pom-poms. Nothing could be more humiliating than what the commander in chief was forced to do on his social media platform so all the world saw it at the same time he told you because they've set it behind the scenes and trying to be nice about it trying to be accommodating and you just won't listen whether is bombing with a whole nonsense about how that we started this whole thing or about bombing Tehran that night, the oil facilities or about expanding the war into the Persian Gulf and allowed the Persians do asymmetric warfare to shift the center of gravity of battle after you attacked those gas fields against a standing order by the commander-in-chief. So now he's gotta go globally and put it out to America's greatest ally. And Lindsey Graham and Ted Cruz in that entire cabal in DC should be put on notice we're not doing this anymore

1:02:20 You're not going to jeopardize the national security interests of our nation and you're certainly not going to put our young men and women in harm's way. And that is exactly what you guys allowed to happen, and Lindsey Graham should pay for that if the good folks in South Carolina really look at the facts here, Lindsey Graham will be turfed out Whatever the future may hold, InfoWars will always live forever. The fight will continue! Be sure to follow us on X at RealAlexJones and at AJN Live And now you can download the number one news app in the world Go to AlexJonesApp.com and let the Democrat Deep State Party know that we will never be silenced

1:03:11 Welcome back ladies and gentlemen. This is the Alex Jones show I'm your host Harrison Smith very happy to be joined by my guest Zachary Rell Zach is of course a January 6th prisoner who was thankfully had his sentence commuted by President Trump. He was the pro se litigant that caused all these sedition cases to get thrown out and this is actually a very big deal, it's different but related to the pardons. It could actually end up being better than a pardon for some of the guys involved. We'll break down exactly how this came about and where it goes next I understand we're about one step into a three-step process that should

1:03:48 Should it go to completion as it should, all these guys. All the proud boys, all the oath keepers will not only have their sentences commuted as has already happened but we'll have their records totally wiped clean they'll be able to get their military benefits and all this stuff that has been stripped from them because of the total fraudulent persecution by the Biden regime so with that I'm very happy to welcome my guest Zach Rell Welcome to show sir How you doing? Thanks for having me I think the last time we spoke, I was in prison. Yeah and it looks like things have turned around so just lay it out for us what's happening? What's this latest development how did we get here give us the timeline well It's something that's been into works for a little while it all started in August when he The star witness against the proud boy trial they know he fled

1:04:46 guilty to seditious conspiracy and he went on a witness stand and lied against us. But in August, he recanted that testimony. And he went on two lawyer led video depositions and then he filed it as sworn affidavit stating that the FBI particularly Special Agent Nicole Miller coerced him to lie and threatened him. And basically they with the government withheld a lot of information about this whole thing with Jeremy Bertino, who was the star witness. Particularly when we were going through trial that the government told us that they only met with him

1:05:29 three times, so we only got three transcripts of conversations the government had with him. But when he went on this sworn deposition he said he met with them like over 15 times and that's a huge deal legally they call it a Brady violation and that basically for people who don't know it basically means that you know the government didn't hand over exculpatory evidence or evidence to could have helped you win your case So, I mean, I think the 13 other meetings would have been really useful for us to really attack his credibility during trial and they deprived us of that. So- If I can just pause right there because that I think anybody should be able to understand it's very simple this was collusion between the government and their star witness where they convinced him to lie to convict y'all they met with him

1:06:22 15 times, hid that from everybody. Total Brady violation and Brady violations I mean it can get a court case thrown out just because the you know a fingerprint wasn't you know added to the evidence file i mean it's a big deal a brady violation it means that trial was rigged and it has to be thrown out. So this is like, it's a Brady violation but it's so much bigger because this is active coordination between the prosecutors and their star witness in order to establish a false set of facts to convict you guys on that is a show trial by any definition. I just want to stop you there to emphasize what it is your saying happened because anybody can understand some of this stuff gets a little wonky when you look into it but that is cut and dry total show trial

1:07:05 Right, yeah absolutely and like the moment I watched those videos of Jeremy Bertino saying all these things. This needs to be pursued and this needs to be pursued hard at the time in my phone shaded any attorneys on our case there they're good men they worked hard that did a lot of work for our appeal brief which We fortunately won't need anymore. But they disagreed with pursuing this matter as rigorously as I wanted to, so I decided that was gonna go pro se at that moment and represent myself and do it myself. And I attacked the government on this. It took just until this past Friday to get a response from the government on the Jeremy Bertino allegations.

1:07:54 Yeah, so the wheels of justice move slow but I boxed him in a corner. When it first went pro se, I was on another show and told them we're getting this information out on record and we're gonna get it into our appeal or they are going to dismiss the case. And that's ultimately what ended up happening. I'll get a little bit more into it in a second here, but you were gonna say something there? Well no yeah well that's amazing of course in criminal law usually the saying is someone who represents themselves as a fool for a client basically. It's never typically a good idea to go pro se because lawyers just know things that regular people don't know and

1:08:37 you'll fall into traps, typically. If it's a murder case they'll like do not represent yourself no matter how confident you are but this is different why were the lawyers not gonna go after this? Again it seems cut and dry what do you think was motivating the lawyers again you don't want to talk smack about them but I mean is it just this idea of well the system works how it works and we have to obey the system or were they just not... Why would they not pursue this I think, without getting in any opinionated too much but I wouldn't say like. a black and white lens. And their lawyers, they look at it as the legal angle but they were ignoring the very important part of this entire thing which was the middle, the gray area which is the political angle of the whole thing. The fact that this man went on record and made these explosive allegations there's two things in my mind I was like it's either going to lead to a dismissal or it's going to lead to a pardon.

1:09:43 And that's why I pursued it so hard because to get these allegations out here, the man recanted the testimony. He was part of the entire case. He was a whole reason we were convicted of seditious conspiracy. The prosecutors during our trial mentioned him numerous times in their closing statements and he was So in my mind, I was like look if President Trump is ever going to slate a reason why he would pardon us. It would be because the star witness recanted his testimony but at the same time this situation and it's such a compelling argument and I use the appeals court to back me up in the trial court to try and get this evidence in. And that's what I meant when I kind of boxed him into corner I forced them

1:10:29 allow it to come out or throw the case out. And my wife, she did not support my decision to go pro se originally. She said you're gonna regret it. She's like these are attorneys they know what they're doing and I was like no, no, no, no. I was like I have to do this. I was like nobody is gonna pursue this as hard as I'm gonna pursue it and It was terrifying for me. I really was, I w I was scared as hell, but yeah, when I did it and decision I made, it feels like it would be easy for me or you know, it'd be easy for me to understand how you would just go, Hey, I'm out of jail. I'm getting the hell out of here.

1:11:09 It's kind of a risk if you actually bring in this back up and almost going back into the lions den and go, no, no we're not done with this fight yet. That is a very risky move I'm so glad it paid off for you that makes his whole thing that much more impressive because that really is the amateur going up against Michael Jordan and dunkin' on him. That's huge! Okay, so this guy recanted hi testimony your lawyer said its nothing You decide screw it im gonna pursue this What happens next? Well, so it took me a little while to get my pro se status approved by the appeals court and the trial court. The trial court which is where we were prosecuted and obviously with the trial they ignored my pro se motion for the longest time and it kind of got frustrating for me. So then I was just like you know what?

1:12:01 I wanna file something with the appeals court. And the appeals court responded by basically telling me, I need to refile this in the trial court which is a lower court and that prompted the trial court judge to have to actually look at my per se motion and approve it. So like you said this recant came out August 4th, I think it was the first day. I wasn't able to get it into the trial court record until February, I think, February. So finally, February rolls around and

1:12:37 the whole motion I made about Jeremy Bertino and how we need to do a rule 33. Rule 33 is basically when you finish your trial, if new evidence arises, you have three years from the date of conviction to get it in there through rule 33. So that was my absolute goal. I was like, I have to get this on record because we need this evidence in our appeal. The star witness recanted testimony why would you not want in your appeal? Well, I'm going to go back So the government was trying to delay responding at first, or I feel like they didn't get the videos that I sent. That delayed the case for another month basically and it was interesting because the reply date that they were ultimately granted

1:13:27 our appeal when we were supposed to file our appeal. Our appeal was due April 13th, and the government's response to the Jeremy Bertino accusations was April 10th. So I seen this immediately as I see what they're doing here because my reply was due April 24th. That basically means that litigation for this whole thing wasn't going to commence before the appeal so I'm like, all right. Here's I see what they're doing it there. They're trying to stonewall me from getting this in here. So I follow the emotion with the appeals court requested a bank requesting an abeyance and abeyances basically an indefinite delay of the appeal brief schedule until we got this Bertino thing litigated

1:14:15 And they don't like that too much. The government opposed that motion in the appeals court, they said they're like yeah you know what it's fine this will get litigated in a couple of months so you could just do an amendment and get into your appeal on a couple months. I countered with them there is no guarantee that they are even going to rule on that in the next couple months. So this accusation came out August we are still having conversations about how to proceed on this So I was like absolutely not and well suspended the whole appeal brief a couple days later. And I was like, wow maybe they agree on one or something here and then a couple of days later the trial court prosecutors they put in their April 10th response to the whole Bertino thing and they were like yeah this is Jocelyn Palatine. I'm sure you guys reported on her before she replied she replied instead did

1:15:16 The judge should defer litigation of the whole Bertino thing until after our appeal is commenced. So this directly contradicts and conflicts with what the attorneys for the prosecution were saying in the appeals court, and I ran right back to the appeals court with that and I put a supplement motion in it. And I was like this is exactly why we need the abeyance because the lower court doesn't want this information getting out and And like I said, there's no guarantee that this is gonna be ruled on. And this is prime example number one why it may not be ruled on.

1:15:55 And three days later, we get a dismissal. So sort of I don't know how to put it chicken the egg sort of thing it's like okay well you can't do this motion until you file the appeal but to file the appeal you want to use the evidence from this motion so they wanted to put you in an impossible situation where you had to file the appeal before you could get the information that was necessary for your appeal though? Do I have that generally right? Yes, absolutely. That's literally that that's it yeah well so so it still just it's still machinations It's still manipulation of the court system trying to screw you over So again this isn't this wasn't an honest mistake That's what I'm learning from this that this wasn't a ah gee looks like You know we messed up here We want to make it right This looks like oh crap they caught us Let's cover-up our crimes and it sounds like these are this is more I don't know if what they're doing is criminal But obviously they're attempting to cover up

1:15:16 The judge should defer litigation of the whole Bertino thing until after our appeal is commenced. So this directly contradicts and conflicts with what the attorneys for the prosecution were saying in the appeals court, and I ran right back to the appeals court with that and I put a supplement motion in it. And I was like this is exactly why we need the abeyance because the lower court doesn't want this information getting out and And like I said, there's no guarantee that this is gonna be ruled on. And this is prime example number one why it may not be ruled on.

1:15:55 And three days later, we get a dismissal. So sort of I don't know how to put it chicken the egg sort of thing it's like okay well you can't do this motion until you file the appeal but to file the appeal you want to use the evidence from this motion so they wanted to put you in an impossible situation where you had to file the appeal before you could get the information that was necessary for your appeal though? Do I have that generally right? Yes, absolutely. That's literally that that's it yeah well so so it still just it's still machinations It's still manipulation of the court system trying to screw you over So again this isn't this wasn't an honest mistake That's what I'm learning from this that this wasn't a ah gee looks like You know we messed up here We want to make it right This looks like oh crap they caught us Let's cover-up our crimes and it sounds like these are this is more I don't know if what they're doing is criminal But obviously they're attempting to cover up

1:16:47 what I would consider criminality in throwing you guys in jail on knowingly false testimony. So, all right good glad we clarified that okay so they actually... So this wasn't an appeal this is something different aside from the appeal that you guys are doing that would happen in the normal course of things right? Yeah, this was what's called a rule 33. Like I said at any time you get new evidence of you have to go back to the trial court. You can't insert new evidence into an appeal. The appeals court is done just for basic they look

1:17:25 procedural errors in the trial court. So, the rule 33 gave me an avenue to insert this new Jeremy Bertino evidence into our trial record essentially that would then be allowed to be litigated in the appeals court so that's why that whole process went down like that and again it's evidenced that was very damaging to their reputations and like you said yeah they didn't want it in there and they probably didn't want to admit fault Whether it's covering up or not, I'll take it for what it is. It turned out to be a dismissal that the federal governments they're not gonna admit wrongdoing how they do that as they toss cases. They'll silently toss cases and that's basically what they did here

1:18:13 So is that the latest that happens? I have this story from yesterday. The Justice Department is seeking to throw out the January 6th conviction of ex Philly Proud Boy leader, Zach Relle. The move would serve as the latest development in President Donald Trump's efforts to effectively erase any criminal consequences from the ill-fated attempt to keep him in power. Of course, that's the biased way they phrase it but is that more or less factually accurate as to the latest update with you guys' case? Yeah, yeah and this came right after the supplement motion and right before the appeals court was due to

1:18:50 issue their ruling, granting my abeyance to completely delay the case. So like I said we bought a box of in a quarter on this one here and they were forced to like I said either let this information come out on record or throw the case out so it's huge development and it's going to help us out tremendously It's better than a pardon because a lot of us are military veterans myself included Joe Biggs is another one he was my co defendant We were deprived of all of our VA benefits, disability payments and retirement payments. And they came after us for money they paid us after January 6th like it was disgusting what they did so now this will vacate the entire

1:19:35 like we were never charged. So all the military vets who were charged and convicted of seditious conspiracy, they're gonna get back pay from January 6 on and it's good. It's a huge victory because we should have never been deprived these benefits in the first place I mean, I was in prison with people who raped and murdered people And they still receive their benefits, but you protest the stolen election in 2020. And all of a sudden, you should be stripped of all your benefits like he never served it was disgusting what they're doing to us and I'm just so happy that we're going to get vindicated here and some of us are getting our lives back. So it's great

1:20:14 That is absolutely huge and again for those of us just joining me my guest is Zach Rell And you can follow Zack on X at Zack underscore rel that's re HL Z a CK. I'm sorry z a CH underscore r e h L and you go to Gibson go comm slash defend Zach, that's Gibson go comm slash defend za ch and of course your you're still fighting this and I don't think he'll mind me reading this, but Stuart Rhodes texted me this and I just want to make sure that we have this accurate. He says the 12 of us who were commuted but not pardoned have not been pardoned so this isn't a new round of pardoning even though maybe the way I expressed it

1:20:58 Maybe it sounded like I said that. The DOJ filed a motion to DC Court of Appeals asking appeals court to vacate our convictions and then remand our cases do the trial courts for dismissal with prejudice once the DOJ then files motions to dismiss it in the trial courts, this is not a done deal yet but it's the first step of a three-step process and it's likely the Court of Appeals will grant the DOJ request historically the DC Court of Appeals is deferential to the DOJ in such motions I see this as the DOJ throwing in the towel, in a sense. Because it's also them brushing all their crimes and constitutional violations under the rug and avoiding possibly losing in the Court of Appeals. All of our appellate briefs were due today but now because of this, the Court of Appeal suspended our briefing schedule so we didn't have to file our briefs. He says once this is over if the courts grants the DOJ request, it will actually be better than a pardon because your convictions and the indictments will be totally gone as if it didn't happen you'll get your military rights back

1:21:50 your all your rights back military benefits and likely pack that back pay on disability so is it is that a pretty accurate uh... rundown of everything going on as this the first step of a of a three-step deal Absolutely, yeah. He's 100% correct and it's kind of what I was getting at there with the whole back pay thing and everything. But yeah, the appeals court does have to approve it but it's kinda beyond me to think that they're gonna oppose it because if the DOJ doesn't wanna pursue this for various reasons they can't force them to continue fight it. So, I mean they're gonna especially since it's an unopposed motion everybody on all sides both sides agree like 99% of the time the court goes with the unopposed motions requesting and in this case I don't expect it to be any different but he's right we're not out of the woods yet per se but unless they went to Jeremy Bertino allegations to get out on record

1:22:49 Who knows, I mean, I was hoping to get Jeremy Bertino on a witness stand while we were doing some investigations into his matter further. But we don't know what he's gonna say and they don't know what he's gonna say so unless they want Jeremy Bertino on the stand then yeah they should just continue on and toss this out. So, I'm happy with that. That's a brilliant setup you've arranged there and not in dishonest way. It's just they were, they sort of been hoisted by their own petard. They've been screwed by their own wily machinations and deception has anyone from the Trump administration reached out to you? I'm wondering because of course he did the pardons and we're very happy and all always be glad I voted for him for that reason alone

1:23:49 But have they been really instrumental in this? Have they been fighting you, what's been your relationship with the Trump administration through all of this. Well I mean nobody directly from the Trump administration like beforehand that spoke with. I did get a congratulations from Ed Martin who has been a fighter for all J6ers. I definitely give him credit he was, I'm sure he was working in the background doing everything that he could to help. help us all move on to this and God bless him. And God bless all the activists and whatnot that support us as well, raising awareness to a lot of this stuff it really helped us well because we

1:24:31 We had to put pressure on the government to do the right thing here. And it was a combination, it wasn't all me, it was a combination of the ones fighting, the other 12 even Enrique Tarrio he was always there to help me out and helping an article out anytime I filed a motion. These things all work together- It's just absolutely huge so what is what is the next step? The immediate next step Well, the next step is obviously just a way to get the judges to sign off on this. And then after that the next step is compensation. At this point right now, I sat in prison for four years for charges that are not gonna be on my record anymore. And that's the same thing for the other 12th. We all are getting our convictions completely wiped out like we were never charged but yet we were still hostages of the US government for four years and-

1:32:08 That's what we do. That's what our entire thing is actually, they sort of stole the word from us but debunking we debunk things We are the original debunkers if you will and so it's always strange when we then get accused of doing some false flag thing A, we don't need to were already attacked enough It's not like we need to fake additional persecution on top of the persecution that has been wielded against us for so long. That doesn't even make sense in the first place, but also our entire brand is legitimacy is founded on our legitimacy Is knowing...is our audience knowing that they can trust us to tell the truth Even if it doesn't benefit us It actually makes us anti-grifters Right? You hear the word grifter a lot What a grifter is by my definition is somebody who says something they don't believe because it benefits them

1:33:03 It's people who lie or put forward a mindset, an idea, a lifestyle. You get a lot of people out there that are complete degenerate scumbags who all day every day are talking about their life as a Christian man and the struggles against sin. That's grifting! That's lying That's telling a lie because you're trying to capture an audience to get their money. It's literally the opposite of what we do if we were grifters, if what we said and believe was dictated by what's popular We wouldn't be holding positions that we currently hold What we're doing now I mean I'm actively ever since the Iran war began I've been losing followers on X If I cared about that

1:33:46 And then I wouldn't keep saying what I'm saying. If that's what was motivating me, popularity or prominence or connections to the elite or money we'd be taking a whole different tack. We're anti-grifting. We are saying what we do believe and it's losing us money. It's losing us you know popularity amongst people who trust Trump endlessly It's kind of unfortunate, but at the end of the day I would hope that even if you disagree with us. You can recognize that our positions and stances we hold are informed entirely completely 100% by our own genuine belief set in our knowledge that we spend all day every day accruing from every different source again you might disagree with us but

1:34:32 be absolutely certain and bet your bottom dollar that we're not saying things we don't believe. And that's a very important currency to have at this time when so many people are liars, some people are grifters, some people are taking positions they don't genuinely believe because they think it makes them money. We are the standouts in this, we're the outsiders, we're the ones who bucked the trend. This is confusing to some people Apparently, apparently this confuses some people. One of them made a video where and I've showed a couple videos like that they all kind of have the same vibe

1:35:10 You know, it was like the video I played. I guess it was earlier this week of the guy again trying to slander InfoWars and going where do they get their money? How did they make so much money if have you ever bought from InfoWar- It's this whole like I've done this for a while. I know how these things work So I know there's something we're not and it's like what is the accusation What are you actually saying? What do you actually believe nothing? You have nothing to go on your just insinuating things vaguely believing that stupid people will hear things you didn't actually say, that they'll come away believing your sort of strange hints at something that isn't true. This is another one of these videos where again if you were totally ignorant if you totally had no knowledge of anything going on I could see how you could believe this but I don't understand how anybody with even cursory knowledge of how this whole scandal has unfolded

1:36:09 would believe what this guy's saying. I'll break it down here, but this is clip number 13. This was posted saying wake up people! This guy lays it out well the woke right is scheming we're scheming folks let's watch. Don't you find that just a little bit strange? That all of these former Trump supporters have mind melted at the same exact time all using the same script

1:36:45 to come out against him. Okay, so he's pointing at these people and he saying isn't it interesting that they all dropped Trump at the same time with the same script? Okay but they didn't did they. At all like even a little bit like Joe Rogan started getting cold feet after people were killed by ice and he said hey maybe mass deportations isn't worth it or I can't actually stand by this. Candace Owens I think broke with Trump in 2025

1:37:40 I was looking up on AI, because what is he even talking about? And I was going to go through each one in particular. But just you should know anybody who's watched this space knows all of these people broke with Trump at a different time over a different situation often that it was exclusive to them like Candace Owens started going against Israel following the genocide they were waging in Gaza and she got fired from Daily Wire her process of moving away from the MAGA-Israel first Trump centered Cult was like a long process over like a couple years and it started with being anti-israel Tucker Carlson on the other hand obviously actually was fired from Fox for his support of Donald Trump and Over time has sort of moved away from Sort of sycophantic trump support but again on the basis of why are we allowing Israel to do this to our country? And I don't know. I guess at this point Tucker is like

1:38:39 fully anti-Trump. I don't know when he first went that way, and I guess the latest thing was him really being outraged and disgusted at Trump's behavior of tweeting out a threat of genocide and saying praise be to Allah on Easter morning So again it just depends on your ignorance It depends on you literally not knowing about any of this because that is an absurd statement All these people turned on Trump all at the same time with the same script Totally asinine, doesn't even make sense. If anything you could say Alex and I wouldn't even say we turn on if somebody asked me if somebody came up to the street and just said are you a Trump supporter? I'd say yeah Yeah, I voted for him. I support him my sport what he said He wanted to do I want the closed border. I want them

1:39:30 Deep State taken down, they're enemies with Trump. I still am functionally a Trump supporter. I just despise everything he's done in the recent past. I see his failure to uphold his campaign promises as an existential threat to my nation and my life and my family. So I'm not in support of what he's doing. I'm desperate to have him back on track because he is the president and he's the one that needs to be doing this But I'd still say i'm a Trump supporter. I'd still say in general, I'm rooting for the guy It's just...I feel like he's turned on us and has become somebody else That's why we keep referencing King Theoden as I reference this all the time it's like do you support king Theoden? And it's not with worm tongue turning him into a monster! No! but In general and who he is Who he was for the last 10 years I still am supportive

1:40:24 But Alex, I'm sure feels the same way. He speaks for himself when he does his show and is always couching his criticism of Trump in the love and support we have for Trump. So again it's just ridiculous so Candace Owens who goes on Piers Morgan in 2025 and says Trump is just a series of failures little bit different than Alex Jones in March of 2026 going, what the hell is wrong with Trump? Why did we get into this Iran war. So it's just well we'll go back to the guy just from the outset It doesn't even make sense on the surface But will return to it he doesn't even make any other points like We could just end it there because his video beyond this point

1:41:11 is just like building on this initial lie. So I could just stop it now, but let's go back to the guy and we'll hear him out. We'll hear out what he's discovered about our nefarious plans to tell the truth and stick to our guns regardless of what Trump says. He figured us out, lets watch. Normally in the past what would happen is that they would defect slowly One at a time, maybe different times. One in 2020 one in 2021 maybe one and 2017. Let me just pause right there again let me just okay cuz first of all they did all drop Trump or move away from Trump at a different time just not back in 2017 Or 2021 or any of those dates that he mentioned because Trump hadn't gone to war with Iran yet

1:41:59 What is wrong with people? It's the same thing as Israelis saying anti-Semitism has skyrocketed because of October 7th. No, it's because of the genocide you guys committed. Like what do we not understand about time, about temporal permanence? A thing that happens after a thing and is caused by that thing is not just some independent... like it's all inverted from these people Why would we have dropped Trump in 2017? Why would we have dropped Trump in 2020. We dropped Trump for a reason, the reason arrived last year but I guess if you ignore that then yeah this is all mysterious. I guess if you ignore the thing Trump did that everybody's against That all of these people speak about being against I guess if you take that out of the equation then we have a real mystery on our hands Right? What are we doing here

1:42:54 Let's go back to the video. So again, it was all you'd expect him to drop in 2017 why? Why he didn't send America into war with Iran in 2017 He didn't spend all of 2017 deporting critics of Israel while allowing an increase of H-1B visas The things that we oppose him for things We don't like him doing are the things that caused us to turn on him That's why we turned out like what? It's called temporal reality. It exists regardless of what you think about it, You cannot just remove a major cause of the thing happening and then look at the thing and say this is a mystery I guess I get to speculate wildly. You don't need to speculate there was a cause, you're looking at the effect What is going on here? Let's go back to the guy Almost like they had a meeting Almost yeah Especially The Hodge Twins

1:43:50 Really shocked. Okay, Mark Taylor Greene was not a surprise Joe Rogan is leaning to fall off the Trump train. Yeah like two years ago Tucker and Megan Candace all at the same time Alex Jones just recently apologized to Candice no he didn't that's what are you talking about? And how does that contribute to your argument I wasn't apologize to Candace At all and not that i remember i don't know You guys see Alex apologize Candace Did he? I mean, did he apologize to her or did he just say like let's forget it. Oh, we did formally apologize okay so what does that mean So how does that contribute to the...so that was part of the meeting i guess So I guess two months ago when Candace had already dropped off and Marjorie Taylor Greene had already dropped off The Hodge twins they dropped off in like 2023

1:44:47 So when was this meeting? So apparently they all dropped at the same time except a bunch of them dropped a couple years ago, some of them dropped last year. Alex dropped a month ago and he apologized to Candace for being in a fight with her two months ago so what is that? Why would you be in a fight with Candice if we're all in secret cabal together? I can go endlessly about just like the logical nonsense and all of this I generally don't even understand like, okay what is Alex apologizing to Candace have to do with anything? But I want to let him keep going because really the point of this is the projection almost the imposition of motive ulterior motive from us from Alex Jones and Candice Owens and The Hodge Twins.

1:45:40 So Candace Owens was ahead of the curve and I officially apologized to her. Candice Owens plays a compilation of former Trump allies disavowing, criticizing him as the tarnishing of his legacy continues he's even getting slammed on Truth Socialism platform Alex Jones quote, I'm really glad he's differentiating and saying you're not with me because i'm not with you. I don't want to be at your cool corrupt kid Howard Letnik Jeffrey Epstein class table thank you so much for delineating that I'm not with you a sinking burning ship Anon posting, how can you call them losers when you lose to Bibi Netanyahu in Israel every single day? Interesting. So okay I guess that... Okay good to see. I'm not sure what he's really apologizing for but okay. I guess just for going off on her with me she took the high road. I now think Israel was involved and Melissa Taito Erica killed Charlie that's now what i'm saying but i'm saying in general I think she believes what she's saying

1:46:41 Okay, so again all right. So again what this has to do with we're all on a team defeating Trump I can't even I couldn't even tell you not even sure what What that proves or disproves about? All of us being in a secret cabal to bring down Trump the question is why why would we want that what would be our motivation Every one of these people that he mentions is like far far right as far as I'm concerned and myself included and like especially I mean it's almost Like comical, like for Alex Jones and I like our last names are Jones and Smith. We're as American as you can possibly get literally our ancestors fought next to each other in the Texas Revolution. What would our motivation be for not supporting America?

1:47:32 Loving America like we're not leftists. We're not liberals This is what I mean is this weird dichotomy has developed where people literally think that if you don't support Israel You must be a secret leftist, that's crazy That is a crazy thing to think let's go back to the guys he tries to figure out What would motivate all these people to disagree with Trump about something? It couldn't possibly be that they actually disagree with something that Trump did, that he said he would never do. That he promised you would never do, that he ran on not doing. That couldn't possibly be a natural and legitimate reaction to Trump's behavior. There's gotta be a conspiracy and some sort of ulterior motivation behind it I guess let's watch. Rip play here and maybe they're setting up the 2028 election

1:48:19 And they don't want a MAGA candidate in there? Yeah, maybe. This is my thinking. They don't want a MAGA candidate so they're going to band together. They're going to speak against Donald Trump and MAGA So when the election comes around some of these people may be paid handsomely but also they may want spots in the cabinet and they've already been told we need you to denounce Donald Trump We need you to denounce Donald Trump and everyone that he supports We want you to denounce MAGA and we want to get rid of that base. So, we need your 40 million followers or whatever it is amongst all these guys on social media to keep hearing the banging up the drum, the banging up the drum. You have very strong support and we wanna make sure that we get that base to vote for whoever we want to win. And its gonna be some moderate Republican. All these people will remain Republicans they're just no longer MAGA

1:49:23 Watch this space cuz you're gonna start seeing the fruits of their labor come out and you're also going to see them be rewarded for their treachery. Rewarded by who? What are you even talking about is what I mean, it's like...I'm sorry You do not have the IQ to be a conspiracy theorist. I'm sorry you've been demoted. You have to go back to lurking. You have to go back to listening to other people because you have tried to think for yourself and it has not worked out. I'm sorry to tell you, you're no longer allowed to theorize about conspiracies. You don't know how they work. You don't know what you're talking about. What are you talking about? Now interestingly couple things about this for one all of these people were Trump supporters right like he acknowledges they've turned on Trump meaning they were Trump supporters meaning they helped trump

1:56:45 and my brain and my energy. Well, I like it. Considered I'm going to get me some before we're gonna give you a couple bottles of a bro. We love it! It's amazing. Get yours now. The Allshowstore dot com. The EU, like a deer in the headlights, stares down shortages now intensely facing Germany. Many citizens many medium-sized enterprises and many businesses in general are under severe strain and have of course seen this not only at the petrol stations in recent weeks but also in terms of energy costs for businesses whether in the form of fuel or raw materials

1:57:30 How can we reduce the demand? Because of course, the least expensive energy is the energy that is not used. While in the UK, the British economy continues to circle the toilet bowl according to the IMF. The International Monetary Fund has downgraded Britain's economic prospects more than any G7 country in its latest update on the state of the global economy. Front and center, the fallout in Ireland continues after a week of fierce nationwide fuel protests that saw farmers and truckers block refineries ports and highways bringing supply chains to a grinding halt over punishing diesel prices global shocks and Michael Martin's coalition carbon tax machine

1:58:15 Government is now extending the temporary measures to reduce exercise duty on petrol, diesel and marked gas oil from the end of May to the end of July. Postponing the increase in carbon tax from May until the budget in October The willful obstruction of public roads and movement of vehicles or persons are offences under various statutes including the Public Order Act and Road Traffic Acts As part of our well-established graduated policing response in dealing with protests, Angarlishy Akana is now moving to an enforcement phase in relation to those impacting on critical infrastructure unless they desist and disperse from these blockades. How can meetings and meetings be nothing for the people? There's thousands and thousands and thousands of Irish farmers or truckers businesspeople, builders

1:59:09 every corner of this country are all over the place absolutely frustrated. We don't know whether they're going to be in business in a few months time and this is the result Gas stations ran bone dry, traffic chaos choked Dublin and emergency services scrambled while ordinary citizens bore the brunt. In a desperate bid to calm the anger the government rushed out a 505 million euro support package that included lower fuel taxes and delayed the new carbon taxes threatening to devastate ordinary Irish citizens. The damage runs deep

1:59:44 igniting raw fury at an establishment that brazenly places climate dogma ahead of Irish families struggling with housing shortages and the chaos of uncontrolled mass immigration. own citizens which is reminiscence of something that you would hear in South America. It is reminisce of a Pyrrhonist and then we have the man that turned away from the woman in Kenturk not so long ago but during this election and wouldn't want to hear, and all of a sudden he's gaslighting the country saying he's concerned! He's concerned

2:00:22 about the 900,000 people on waiting lists all of a sudden. He's concerned about the 60,000 people on housing lists! He is concerned about the 116,000 that are waiting for HAP! That's what this government is concerned about. You're concerned about nothing, only serving yourselves! Irish political party Sinn Féin rammed through its no-confidence motion the government counted with its own confidence motion and held the line defeating the challenge Don't forget folks what's happening here in Ireland it's happening everywhere The amount of messages I get saying it's happening Canada It's happened Australia It's happened in Europe

2:01:01 This is a global agenda 2030, right? T. Shea Michael Martin clings to power for now yet the votes exposed a rattled regime scrambling amid public outrage as the Emerald Isles people question how long distant globalist agendas will override their right to affordable fuel and basic national sovereignty John Bowne reporting for Inforce Whatever the future may hold, InfoWars will always live forever. The fight will continue! Be sure to follow us on X at RealAlexJones and at AJN Live And now you can download the number one news app in the world Go to AlexJonesApp.com and let the Democrat Deep State Party know that we will never be silenced

2:01:58 Welcome back folks. This is the Alex Jones show third hour is on I'm your host Harrison Smith J Dyer will be taking over for the fourth hour here and I believe Rob do is hosting the war room this afternoon We have a lot more to cover in my final hour with you including some breaking news here that, you know It shouldn't be a surprise exactly from zero hedge Trump's claim about the delivery of Iran's enriched uranium is baseless According to Iranian news so from the Iranian News organization mayor in EHR Iranian source in a conversation with El Arabi and el-jadid Trump's claim about the delivery of Iran's enriched uranium Is baseless and Iranian source in a conversation with al-arabi analogies eat only civilian ships can pass through these straight-off hormuz

2:02:47 Through the routes specified by Iran, the announcement of a temporary reopening of the Strait of Hormuz has nothing to do with current negotiations in Washington. We waited a few hours to make sure that ceasefire was established in Lebanon after that we temporarily opened the Strait of Hormuz. The announcement of the temporary reopening of the Strait of Hormuz and the ceasefire in Lebanon is part of the agreement. Negotiations on controversial issues with United States are still ongoing but due to Washington's extravagant demands there's no clear prospect. Iran's demands in the negotiations are still unreasonable and unreasonable. The US president's claim about taking Iran's rich uranium is baseless, okay? So what part of it was true I wonder, I mean, I don't know. How were we supposed to understand what's going on here?

2:03:36 Donald Trump's come out, I mean this is like the 10th time that Donald Trump has come out said he has an agreement with Iran. That Iran has just come out and been like no dude we did not say that what are you talking about? It's crazy! Like obviously there was an agreement so why is he adding all this other stuff on top of it? That's what really doesn't make any sense if this was a good agreement This was like okay We're having a ceasefire The Strait of Hormuz is open Like that's fine that's good But then on top of these like oh And they're totally gonna give us their uranium And they're just like, no we didn't agree to that. What are you talking about? And so it's like okay was that a misunderstanding is Trump being told things that just aren't true where is the breakdown of communication or is Trump just saying this stuff thinking that it will make it real I don't know anybody does anybody can tell me what exactly the real agreement was cuz

2:04:41 The authorities in our country are supposed to keep us informed about this stuff, just make stuff up apparently and endlessly. Iran bats down baseless Trump claim on handing over enriched uranium to US as he declares Hormuz never again closed. And Iran is like this is temporary It's not open fully. You are not taking our uranium like what? What are you talking about when it's going on, it's crazy. Trump praises Iran for fully reopening Hormuz choke point. Iran's Iraqi says the straight of Hormuz is declared completely open however Iranian official tells Fars if the maritime blockade continues that will be considered a violation of the ceasefire and the straightforward moves transit route will be closed

2:05:26 US moles cash for uranium deal as three-page MOU peace plan takes shape. Trump claims the U.S will get the nuclear dust Iran officially denies Peace talks reportedly happening on Sunday in Islamabad Trump says most of the main points are finalized It'll go pretty quickly odds have a permanent peace plan by the end of this ceasefire are soaring above 50% By the end of the month Yeah, maybe. Maybe I mean it depends on a couple things. It depends on Iran being willing to give up their enriched uranium seems to be a sticking point was never an agreement in former negotiations until this year when as Joe Kidd points out the sleight of hand maneuver was engaged by Israel to change it from no enriching to the point nuclear weapons to know enrichment at all that has been the sticking point ever since and Iran

2:06:19 has no reason to give up their nuclear dust, come and get it. It's just like what are you gonna do? Come and take it good luck so I think we already tried that last week okay so that's the first sticking point an impossible ask of ours that they're just not going to ever agree to And then there's the fact that the agreement of peace between Lebanon and Israel doesn't include Hezbollah who is actually fighting Israel So, and Israel apparently doesn't care about the ceasefire and is just gonna continue operations anyway according to Netanyahu. So there you go folks again now you can say what you want but like it's at the beginning of the show I said I don't know how much I believe this because we don't believe in just like you wait an hour and Iran comes out as if now what are you talking about? We did not agree any that stuff. It's just crazy it really is

2:07:22 Because it just goes along with like the whole thing about Lebanon being included in the ceasefire in the first place. Trump puts this big threat out, we're gonna destroy all of Iranian civilization It'll never return you have 48 hours to open the strait Iran doesn't open the strait but Trump says oh We've accepted the basis for negotiations Iran backed down They gave us this ten-point plan The ten point plan according to people that presented it to Trump and they got Trump's agreement Included a Lebanese ceasefire as part of requirements, the prerequisites for the ceasefire to continue. And Trump's just like I didn't know that actually it's not in the agreement. It was in the agreement Israel violated it so it's just this endless song and dance and I'm telling you Iran is the only party in this entire conflict that has consistent messaging

2:08:23 I give you, they're just lying. They're just dishonest is like this constant projection of like you believe what Iran said? You idiot! It's like they keep telling the truth and the Trump administration just keeps lying it's not my fault for noticing it's really not. Iran keeps making agreements and then Israel and Trump violate them. You can keep calling Iran dishonest but they just keep telling the truth So, I don't know why you people are so brainwashed into thinking that Iran is just constantly lying. They literally the only people in this entire conflict whose statements you can actually trust even a little bit. But again it's not about Iran it's about what's happening here in America and its about the way that Trump supporters

2:09:25 We are currently being lined up for execution, essentially. And again it's just you think about the J6ers you think about what happened throughout 21 and 2022 and you should go back and watch old stuff I was watching some video from 2022 right as all these people were being arrested all the January 6ers and all these members they said we need to shock in our campaign we're gonna go after the influencers first And you might have forgotten, there was a time where the left wing was dominant online. Their clips were going viral there they were controlling the conversation and right-wingers were literally afraid to speak out half of more like on the run being arrested by The Fed it got pretty bad and without winning the election in 2024 Zach Rell

2:10:25 Enrique Tarrio, Stuart Rhodes. They'd still be rotting in prison for the next 20 years like I can't emphasize enough how serious this is and how beyond disrespectful the Trump administration is being to the genuine American concerns of his actual supporters. This idea that we're just too stupid to understand how great this is for America the Republican Party is being set up to lose and the Democratic Party has been continually radicalized for the last 10 years. And so we're in this dichotomy now where Trump is not doing the stuff he should be doing, He's not even doing what he's like legally allowed to do. He's not taking his prerogatives and his ability as the president

2:11:25 nth degree, pushing the envelope and seeing what we can get done. And doing whatever we can and letting the Democrats try to stop us like none of that there has been none of that but you see it with everything else I've got another example this today. This is the thing that's really frustrating this is the thing that really is beyond disrespectful is we're sitting here going, we elected you to represent us. We elected you to deal with our problems and we elected you for a four year period at the end of which you have to have all of this done because we're in this false dichotomy were being set up because while Trump is not doing what he needs to do even within the legal bounds, he's certainly not exceeding legal boundaries to actually do what is necessary screw The 14th Amendment were stripping citizenship of all the people who

2:12:20 Came over here and plopped out a baby. No, that's not how it works Retroactively we're stripping you of your citizenship and we're shipping you back home Nothing even remotely close to that everything when it comes to America is this soft touch? We can't make the leftist mad the instant that they start protesting we back down It's like totally pathetic. We're getting nothing done than we need to get done But the left doesn't know that. The left still thinks Trump is as tyrannical as ever, and again we talked about this throughout everything throughout all the ice nonsense with the protesters being killed and stuff. This was the outrage that we were feeling was that all he's doing is pissing off the left. That's all he's doing now if you're pissing off the left but you're also crushing the left then that's fine. Piss of the left by decommissioning their

2:13:12 Systems, piss off the left by deporting 50 million people in four years. Piss off the left by getting something done. We're getting nothing done but his rhetoric and beating on his chest ego tripping is convincing lefties to be more radical, convincing them that they're in a life or death struggle, convincing them that he is a tyrant but we're getting no benefit so we get all the negatives of having a tyrant But we don't get any of the positives, which there could be. Cuz if we're gonna have a tyrant I at least want him being a tyrant for us. Be a tyrant who tyrannically imposes the Constitution on a bunch of scumbag criminals but he's not doing what he needs to do is not being a tyrant and he's not taking extraordinary measures To deal with the extraordinary circumstances that were in He's doing none of that And the left is being radicalized even more than they ever have been They are openly stating their plans right now

2:14:16 They have already issued arrest warrants for ICE agents. So Trump is still in power, we're a little over one year of him in the presidency with the Congress with the Senate and the Supreme Court. We have domination of all three branches of government. All four major bodies of our federal government are all on the hands of Republicans and we're getting amnesty by the back door We're not getting the SAVE Act, we're getting the Dignitad Dreamer 2.0 act. We're getting war with Iran. We're not getting the SAVE Act. We're getting nothing. You get absolutely nothing. So it's just like so what I mean? What are we supposed to do here? We have all of the power we could possibly give you and in return that you were actually doing what the left wants you to do anyway giving people amnesty

2:15:19 Screwing your supporters over. So it's just madness, it is utter madness and this a great example of this type of thing. We of course cannot survive another four years of open border. We should have been deporting the same number people that we were welcoming in the four years under Biden. We should have an equivalent amount of deportations under Trump. It's a joke, we are less than maybe 2% of the way there, maybe.

2:15:58 The people doing this to us, the people who opened the border have not been punished. They Alejandro Mayorkas, the NGOs that brought the people in that gave them instructions gave them maps gave them money gave them cheat sheets to say exactly what they needed to say because this whole thing again just a ridiculous farce similar to like we saw at the store yesterday in the UK. They've undercover footage of the UK NGOs teaching immigrants to get asylum, you have to say that you're gay so that they don't want to send you back home because gay people get punished at home. Okay? So we are basing asylum claims off of immutable characteristics but those immutable characteristics can be invisible and non-provable. So just anybody can come over. You have NGOs that are training migrants to say the right combination of magic words as if saying abracadabra

2:17:00 I fear for my life suddenly makes your asylum claim valid and we legally are prevented from accepting it. Yeah, this is all ridiculous. The point of all of this is that the entire time that all these people were flooding over the border, the main drivers of that were organizations like Catholic Charities. Catholic Charities where the engine along with the Hebrew Immigration Society That was the immigration engine getting people into our country. To this day, nothing has been done to strip them of their non-profit label Nothing has been done to investigate their actions if they were I mean if you're training somebody to lie in order to You know defeat laws meant to keep them out like that's your criminal. Nothing has been done Nothing has been done to the Catholic Charities. Nothing has been done too

2:17:56 punish them for their treason or undo the negative consequences they've had until, until the Pope criticizes the Israeli war. When the Pope comes out, Pope Leo comes out and breaks with Trump basically and says we shouldn't be supporting The War on Israel or just that this is the prioritizing of the Trump administration is out of whack. Trump yanks millions from Catholic charities amid pope feud. This what I mean? If at any point in Trump's administration he felt like doing literally anything for us, this is how easy it would be. If Trump got into office and said those Catholic charities have flooded our country with migrants were stripping them of millions of dollars great I'd be so happy He doesn't do that though. He lets them take our millions of dollars of government funds our taxpayer dollars. He lets them flood the border. He lets them you know advertise against him. They let some do whatever the hell they want as long as their hurting America

2:18:57 But then the Pope insults him, he takes it personally and now he's willing to take millions of their dollars. Now he is willing to do that again and again it just happens to have to deal with Israel because the only thing Trump has ever been willing to do is for Israel. That's it! Nothing else He would never in a million years take a million dollars from Catholic charities Because they're harming Americans. It's only when the Pope goes against Israel, the pope must be punished Catholics must be punished for daring to break with Israel So now he'll take their millions of dollars Just like you would never in a million years Take away the endowment of Harvard just because they teach that white people are intrinsically evil and that whiteness must be destroyed

2:19:42 Wouldn't ever happen. How could he? It's free speech, it's the sacred institutions we must have government separating. They're protesting Palestine take their endowment force them to change their leadership Force them to adopt our rule set in terms of what can be discussed on campus Bankrupt and destroy them if they refuse every single time Trump does anything it's for Israel. It's crazy but that's just where we are at this point So you can be mad at us for recognizing this and noticing this or you could be mad at Trump for not doing anything For us despite the ability, the willingness to not just do what's necessary? For Israel. No matter what but doing it for like actually tyrannical things Doing things that he wouldn't do in any other situation He just does it

2:20:43 You can sit there and go, Trump these people brought in all these migrants. These people are your biggest enemies. Well they're Catholics and I like Catholics. It's like well the Pope doesn't like your hair and he's withdraw millions of dollars from the Catholic charities bankrupt them right now okay? I think we see where his priorities lie. I think you see what he cares about where he's willing to exercise his power do we just need to portray everything? Does he know there are Nazis in Mexico? There are Nazis in Mexico and they came over the border. We have to get a million deportations this year, Trump it's for Israel can we tell them it's for Israel then will we get something done Catholic charities of the archdiocese of Miami has helped provide vital services to unaccompanied minors more than 60 years but now it could shut down within a matter of months after the administration canceled at $11 million federal contract

2:21:42 Not because they are flooding our country with immigrants not because they're taking taxpayer money to break American law But only and exclusively Because the Pope questioned the war of Israel and now now Trump is willing to do something that might accidentally help the American people whoops meanwhile F it just do it Carville lays out democratic plan to add states and pack the court to retain power I know that we always say like this was most important election. I know that People will get tired of us. They claim that we're fear mongering for just relaying to you what the Democrats plan is, that they are already acting on. So yeah I never even finished making my point but the point is that while we're in power, while the Republicans have all of the power we can possibly give them In Washington DC people in California are still issuing arrest orders for ICE agents That's just how confident they are and their gonna do it

2:22:41 So I hope everybody understands now. Look at the way Donald Trump has treated Alex Jones, look at the way he's treated Tucker Carlson two people who've had their lives ruined because of their support of Donald Trump directly. Tucker Carlson was kicked off a Fox and made persona non grata because he reported on the 2020 election being stolen and other things that were in airing the January 6 footage that they didn't want publicized supporting Trump supporters He gets fired from Fox, becomes persona non grata. Has to rebuild from nothing because of his support for Donald Trump. Donald Trump ignores him completely until a couple years later when he says he's an idiot and nobody should watch him and doesn't care about him. Alex Jones got sued because he supported Donald Trump

2:23:29 The first thing, the first time anybody ever related Alex Jones to Sandy Hook in the media was one week after Donald Trump was elected. It was an attack on Trump saying Trump is associated with this guy Alex Jones. Alex Jones talked about Sandy Hook isn't Trump a bad person? The last five years and more of misery and chaos we have experienced here at Infowars is a direct consequence of our support for Donald Trump. He throws us under the bus the minute it's convenient, all of the ICE agents that are risking their lives carrying out deportation orders they will all be thrown in prison by the leftist and Trump will say you deserve it. Everybody who's helping Trump right now will be on a Democrat hit list the minute they get back in power but he doesn't seem to care because he's not doing anything to stop it. He's instead protecting his own ego and Israel and that's it

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2:27:31 Welcome back ladies and gentlemen, this is the Alex Jones show in fours.com band video I'm telling you know, I only say the same thing over and over so much but like we got it You gotta realize that they're actually gonna do it And we already saw a preview of this with January 6th. It honestly just makes me depressed knowing like what were going up against because

2:28:15 We're actually, I can't even put it into like serious enough words to get across. Working in Infowars, people would be like are you scared? You're gonna be... It's like well, you're making yourself the enemy of the establishment and it's like yeah but I'm just talking we have the First Amendment. I don't call for violence. I don't say things that are illegal what's going to happen? I'm just saying what I believe And of course it's always peaceful and I don't lie. So, you know what would be the issue? Sure people can file frivolous lawsuits and stuff but legally government is never going to be able to do anything with me because i've got first amendment shield that's pretty much invulnerable. Then you see that doesn't exist there is no shield It doesn't matter if you don't do anything they'll throw you in prison for the rest of your life That's what I really have to wonder now that the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys

2:29:22 pardoned and are out again. This was a positive development, but I mean if Kamala Harris had gotten into office she obviously wouldn't have pardoned anybody they'd still be there for those four years by the time you know 2028 rolled around would it would anybody care? Would this be a major topic? Would it be enough to pressure whoever the next Republican president was to either way they'd be in jail for what eight years in the intervening time these are guys who didn't do anything wrong Do you understand what they did to the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers? These were people that weren't even at the riot in most cases. They were convicted of an unspoken conspiracy, who can be convicted of an unspoken conspiracy literally anyone it means that somehow you telepathically communicated That you were approved of a criminal act therefore you are eligible for punishment for that criminal act do you realize how crazy that is

2:30:22 That's what they did to Americans in 2021 and 2022. They ripped people away from their homes, they bankrupted them, they abused them endlessly some of them ended up committing suicide because the abuse others are permanently injured for life blinded in some cases because of abuse that they experienced in prison at the very least these people spent extended periods of time in solitary confinement which is torturous and they did nothing wrong. They didn't break a single law No matter how much you want to stretch it, even if you want to go well this guy in the Capitol fired a fire extinguisher and he wasn't supposed to. That's not who we're talking about. We're talking about people that never went into Capitol. In case of Enrique Tarrio wasn't even in the same city as the Capitol. He was thrown into prison for 20 years so going back in time If these guys weren't pardoned

2:31:26 Like the question is next time, next time that cops come to pick up somebody that didn't commit a crime. Are they gonna be like Stuart Rhodes and Enrique Tarrio and say we did nothing wrong? We're innocent, we have truth on our side will subject ourselves to the system and trust that justice will be served only to see in first person up close the way a trial is absolutely rigged They threaten people to provide false testimony. They rely on that false testimony, even if the testimony is proven to be false with video evidence as is the case where Steve Baker discovered video evidence that shows the testimony that put both keepers and proud boys away was fraudulent. This is different than the testimony we were talking about with Zach Rell this was a testimony of Lazarus and another

2:32:18 Capitol Police officer who claimed they witnessed the Proud Boys do things. It was later proven on video, they were not in the area they claim to be in when they claimed to witness the thing happening. Could that happen to you? Could that not happen to you if they have people in the federal court willing to testify to false testimony willing to ignore video evidence That would exonerate you how could anybody be safe what's going to stop them so You know The question is next time they come I feel like we'd be sitting in, we'd be looking at the choice of okay you can either. Be put in prison for life or like dying a glaze of glory because if I haven't committed a crime, I'm not letting myself be arrested that's not the way this works and I haven't committed any crimes so you try to arrest me it's just not gonna happen yeah I don't know what to do with this point is why it's so freaky to imagine

2:33:25 Can you not imagine a time five years from now, Democrats are in power. They pack the Supreme Court. They're issuing arrest warrants for people on the basis of their very dangerous ideas they're spreading and suddenly people like myself are getting our door kicked in by the FBI and we're dragged away in the middle of the night? I mean do you not see this as possibility? Do you not understand where were headed because the Democrats understand and again I can't believe that the Republicans in power, I don't get it man. What do these people think is happening? Even though like the likes of JD Vance we were talking about yesterday where he's going guys calm down. I know you're mad about the Iran war but look we got great tax breaks and we got lower immigration now than we had before. Meanwhile, the Democrats are sitting there salivating

2:34:29 Like wolves outside of the gate just waiting for the paddock to be opened. Just waiting to go in and just tear us all from limb-to-limb And we're sitting here like you've got wolves to kill, You've got danger right there that you need to defend us from because they are coming after you even before they come after us So what are you doing? What do you think the future holds On his podcast with Al Hunt, James Carville explained if the Democrats win the presidency and both houses of Congress. I think on day one they should make Puerto Rico in DC a state and they should expand the Supreme Court to 13 F it eat our dust. Carville curiously for being on a national podcast seriously suggested that Democrats should keep this plan quiet says don't run on it. Don't talk about it just do it again you know what? What are you say to this?

2:35:25 You've got half of our population that votes for the Democratic Party, who will be driven to madness on the basis of claims that Trump is destroying our democracy. And they can't even explain what that means or how it works or what the threat is just nonsense there's like well Russia exists therefore our democracy is rigged. It's just total nonsense meanwhile The leaders of the Democratic Party, the most influential popular and well-known members of the Democratic Party not fringe characters. Not far left progressives that are say crazy stuff all the time. The heads of the Democratic Party all of them by the way, the Pritzkers, the Carvilles, the Pelosi's like they're all saying this And they're openly acknowledging if we tell the truth no one will vote for us

2:36:16 If people knew what we were gonna do, they would never let us take power. Therefore we must unilaterally in a conspiracy hide what we intend to do from the stupid gullible voters, so they vote for us thinking we're moderates and then we can pack the court rigged the elections and never let go of power ever again. That is literally what they're planning on doing this why it's like it's this isn't just like oh It's another election This one's the most important one of all time The Democrats are telling you that they have a blueprint So the Democrats never lose an election again And they're going to implement 100% They're going to give citizenship to everybody that arrived

2:36:58 So, that alone will never win another election again. 30 40 50 million people from third world all become citizens all get to vote in our elections all vote for Democrats That's it we're overwhelmed It's done from that alone Maybe you want a question that maybe say hey I don't think they should be able to just give everybody citizenship What are you gonna do take into the Supreme Court? Guess what They're gonna add four members to it They're gonna create a permanent majority in the Supreme Court that will allow them to do whatever they want You think the Constitution is gonna protect you? Who's the final arbiters of the Constitution, the Supreme Court. They're gonna pack it. So what recourse are you gonna have again, the immigration thing they're going to give them all citizenship. They're all gonna be able to vote in our elections that'll be it over any radical leftist like this that gets in like Abigail Spanberger

2:37:57 will do the whole popular vote thing so that her state pledges its electoral college votes to whoever just wins the nationwide popular vote. So like, you won't be able to vote your way out of this. You won't be able to argue your way out of this in court. You won't even really be able to whip up concern for this because all of the people that supposedly endlessly prattle on about their love of democracy and our sacred constitution They're gonna go along with all of this. They've been told the greatest threat to the Constitution is Donald Trump, and that what James Carville is suggesting is somehow defending American values. So like what do we do? What do we do because this is not climate change. This is not some vague threat that doesn't actually exist. This is real it's coming

2:39:03 These people are insane and radical and vicious. They already have thrown innocent people in prison for 20 plus years because of their political beliefs, and they got away with that and are getting away with that as we speak the very same people that did that are still in the DOJ still running operations. So like frankly I think we should turn against Trump a long time ago. I think everybody should have recognized what's happening in the Trump administration in the current Republican led government is so woefully inadequate to deal with the problem that we're facing. This is an existential crisis, do you think that the modern American police will refuse orders to go confiscate guns or go arrest people whose crime Is a speech crime? Even if now you think there's still some remnant

2:40:05 of humanity left in the average American, that they even have the capability will or intelligence to know when order is illegal let alone to stand up against it. Do you still think that we even have a remnant of that left which I would seriously doubt because we've seen it before because we saw during Katrina? This was 20 years ago during Katrina There's videos of National Guardsmen going door to door collecting guns, talking to the camera saying this is so weird. This is so wrong. This is unconstitutional what we're doing. Let's go do it and just going into it. So it's not even a question but even if you thought like well Democrats might try to stop but try that here our police will never go along with it. Why do you think they're replacing your population with foreigners? Why do you think they're accepting illegal immigrants as police officers in places like Oregon and Chicago

2:40:53 Yeah, maybe the good old boy who became a police officer because he truly believes in law and order fundamentally understands it. Yeah, maybe he would have the tenacity to stand up against an illegal order some dude from Bangladesh that The mayor slapped a star on He's gonna do whatever he's told. He's not even remotely American like what why would he care? And again, it's depressing that he's just saying this. James Carville is just saying this. This is how confident he is? It's a confident they are. He knows nothing's gonna be done to stop this. He can literally say and this has been a threat forever. They've been promising to do this forever and forever it's been like the same abuse of same metaphor which is we're in power now. We have the gun. The gun is sitting on the table. It's within our reach. It's ours. We have it

2:41:49 And James Carville is about 50 yards away and he's yelling at us. He's going, I'm walking over there and taking that gun and shooting you with it! We're sitting here with the gun watching him walk closer and closer and every step he takes he's promising again as soon as i get to you I'll pick up that gun and shoot in your face. And he's serious and he's gonna do it. The whole time we're sitting here thinking but you shouldn't No, but you're not supposed to shoot the gun. But I have the gun though so why would you be threatening me with the gun? He's just walking over and he's just gonna walk up and pick up the gun and shoot us The thing is we have the gun The thing to do now is to pick up the gun and shoot the guy that keeps telling you he's going to shoot you If like anybody took this seriously that would be

2:42:32 Like the necessary and inevitable reaction. I don't even want to pack the Supreme Court, but hearing James Carville say we are packing the Supreme Court if we ever get back in power? The only thing to do then is go okay guess what we're about to do cuz what are they gonna say no you're not allowed to do that okay but you're going too so we're just doing it before you're just mad we're doing it first why can Republicans not take on that mindset What do they think is, or do they think the Democrats are gonna say you know those Republicans had a chance to pack the court and they chose not too. And we should reward that respect of our system since we love it so much He's on a national podcast telling Democrats lie to the constituents So we can get extremists in office openly he is announcing that he is publicizing that

2:43:32 The need of the left to pack the Supreme Court is obvious. Many of the proposals coming from the left are clearly unconstitutional, you will need a partisan majority to make political changes that these figures hope will give the Democrats a lock on power for years to come I'm going to tell you what's going to happen. This is what Carville said, in quotes quote, I'm going to tell you what's going to happen a Democrat is going to be elected in 2028 You know that? I know that the Democrat president is going to announce a special transition advisory committee on the reform of the national of the Supreme Court They're going to recommend the number of Supreme Court justices go from 9 to 13 That's going to happen people! I believe him

2:44:15 I believe him because there's nobody on the Democrat side that would stop him. There's nobody that actually genuinely believes the thing they say, there is not one of them. If anything what we're seeing here and with these types of statements from every Democratic leader, they are all making the same types of statements. The thing we have to understand is they are all significantly more radical than we even understand like we know they don't actually care about democracy when they claim too because it depends right? if the democratic will is the majority population. Well, if the majority population is white then that's bad because it's the majority forcing their beliefs on the minority. Then if the white people become a minority then they can't be in charge cuz then that's minority rule and just doesn't matter to them. So we know they don't believe in anything that they say, that much as obvious. We know every time they cry about the Constitution, it's literally just a cynical appeal to try to trick us into letting them violate the Constitution.

2:45:18 But it gets so much worse than that. They are actual radical communist socialists that are openly engaged in manipulating and destroying our system, so they can retain power forever. They're actually saying they're doing this, they are going to do it once they do that there is no ability of us to legally or lawfully stop them from carrying out whatever the hell they want. It's just like if we could just get this lesson into people's minds But I don't even know if we can cuz literally, go. We should do an experiment. I don't know what the reaction would be. I actually would like to see this tested. I'd like to see a Democrat deal with this. Explain to us why it's okay that the National Democrat leadership is telling their underlings lie about your positions to get elected? They know that if they were honest they would never get elected and so

2:46:23 completely destroying democracy as a whole. Because again, our system the electoral system in general has sort of a self-correcting measure where if somebody claims that they're a moderate governs as a radical then nobody will vote for him again Cuz what you can't do that twice. You can go back and say, look I'm a moderate all that radical stuff I did that was a fluke vote for me again and I'll definitely be moderate this time with an informed populist nobody would believe that but the media knows what's happening they know how to cover this they're collaborating with this attempt to subvert democracy so they're not reporting on Abigail Spanberger insane radical agenda in a way that makes it seem like an insane radical agenda there reporting on it as if its moderate

2:47:08 They're lying to the people and telling the people that the radicals are actually moderates. So they're engaged in this as well, and of course it doesn't even matter because once they're in power if you get in power is a moderate but you're actually a radical and then you change all of the rules so that you stay in power forever and your party remains in power forever Then you can just keep being openly radical And it doesn't matter because the people that would vote against you have been disenfranchised which is exactly what they did in Virginia The public remains opposed to court packing and making DC a state. This is why Carville wants candidates to keep quiet on the plan, and run like Virginia's Abigail Spanberger as faux moderates. Then as in Virginia they can move to fundamentally change districts and rules to guarantee their hold on power. Is there open established and advertised plan? And I really wanna know if the average Democrats saw this what they would think about it

2:48:11 They'd probably be fine with it. That's the success of the brainwashing that the American people have been under now interestingly this article that I just read Not sure where its from, its from Jonathan Turley dot org Interestingly it ends with a quote says it's a mentality summed up by NEA President Becky Pringle. The question is whether rage politics can convince people to destroy the very democratic system that has brought centuries of stability and prosperity, kind of coincidence. The NEA I assume he's talking about the National Education Association which held their 2026 Leadership Summit

2:48:50 recently, and we have a video from it. So the publication says NEA's annual National Leadership Summit helps to develop activist leaders and prepare them with the knowledge skills an ability necessary to lead relevant thriving associations and to lead in their professions are unified strategic and interdisciplinary approach to leadership development reinforces and supports key leadership competencies in seven strategic areas. That sounds great right? It's a federal program teaching educators to be leaders in their community. Should we take a look at what the meeting looked like? Clip 28 here, this is from a documentary called The Death of Recessed. Here was the NEA Leadership Summit in 2025 let's watch

2:49:34 I love the model right now of what the Satanic Temple is doing when they keep all the prayer circles in schools for other religions. That's a good model to use. Not a time to say, but i don't want to get political. Damn it! They're making our kids political pawns. They're making us political pawns and they are making our futures and careers political pawns It's time to play. But you gotta get to them first before the parent does With the kids if they need something signed who should sign it? I said whoever likes you best Can you make sure books are more visible? You're not pushing it on them. We're not telling them to read it, but can you show them that those resources exist?" I'm curious do you have specific resources for like Christian families? I truly believe most of these brainwashed people they just haven't had a chance to sit down and actually listen Tell me where in the bible exactly

2:50:31 You are upset with me. Where in the Bible does it say I shouldn't be doing that? I was torn, my faith teaches me to love everyone but it also commands me to defend children Jesus himself warned about this very thing In Matthew 18 6 Jesus says whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to sin It would be better for him to have a great millstone fastened around his neck and to be drowned in the depth of the sea So again, that is the National Education Association's national leadership summit where undercover footage shows teachers praising the satanic temple calling Christians brainwashed and encouraging students to evade parental approval. You saying quote you've got to get to the kids first before the parents do. So again it's like this is any of this being dealt with? Can somebody point me to a single instance of Donald Trump stopping

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2:58:02 empowered and funded by Communist China, allied with the big mega banks that set up Communist China in 1949. The communist Chinese have taken control of US telecommunications infrastructure. The communist Chinese have taken control of Hollywood. The communist Chinese have taken control of the main universities. This is all confirmed this is not a drill Big Tech in Silicon Valley is almost completely run by the Communist Chinese government. They've officially become state-run, Apple 100%. Google is now making the transition and announcing a merger and total worldwide censorship They are now beta testing using me as the straw man, a demonized version of Alex Jones to do that. This is happening this is not like the other probes before that were meant to get you used to probes and censorship thinking he would adapt to censorship by just putting up with it Now this attack is thousands and thousands and thousands of times the magnitude all previous attacks This was a titrated dose reverse psychological warfare operation using adapt overcome subversion paradigm manipulation

2:59:01 In layman's terms, they are manipulating the fact that we adapt to being oppressed. We adapt to being pressed at the low dosages of oppression. Now when the megaton hits us to the poison infusion instead of not knowing it's a lethal dose if we accept the dose. Total Internet of Things integration global social score complete command and control system, it is the virtual reality AI weapon system now attacking the United States with traitors inside the major security agencies blocking Trumps resistance of the program and attempting to stop us from removing combined emergency situation. I have been chosen for destruction because i brought you this information and have been battering ramming it out as much as I can they want to double use me, as they always do in any complex system of mathematical deception

2:59:52 where every angle of my good is turned against us. So they take what I've said, being sincere build me into an insincere person in the straw man and personally cares about life and children and is against these wars until they make me a herder of children. And then they built me into this lie to them set the distraction while they're actually censoring all of you to make it debate about Alex Jones. So even if I didn't sell out to them that now use me as an archetype by being the main distraction. I have now been captured by the enemy in the information warfare fulcrum and it's being used against you only your full understanding of this

3:00:28 He will break you free from this paradigm. I have given you the transmission, now break free! I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man. Thomas Jefferson If you are receiving this transmission, you are the resistance Welcome to the fourth hour of The Alex Jones Show. I'm your guest host, Jay Dyer of Jay's Analysis and today i'm going to walk you through again some of the classic texts that admit everything that we're seeing roll out today these classic texts will be then a demonstration a proof that we're not conspiracy theorists but in fact we are conspiracy realists

3:01:17 We are espionage students, we are history buffs. We're not lunatics that just come up with stuff with no backing or basis. In fact, we're gonna see as you walk through some of these key texts, some of which you've heard me talk about before and some you haven't These key texts admit the technocratic internationalist globalist agenda that includes Zionism as well, as part of an overall strategy to bring about a new world order. This new world order is not capitalist or socialist Marxists in the classical sense it's a hybrid of all these into a new type of system run by computers supercomputers from centralized mega cities

3:02:03 underneath giant continental unions. In order to get to that end goal, the establishment needs a specific type of currency that's one world and universal and controlled by a central hub. It needs a single-world religion that thus props up the beast system And it needs a centralized global state. So one world religion, one world currency and one world government those are all the key plans that we can't forget. They're the real overall plan of all this and we just saw this week as I highlighted the other day

3:02:39 As I predicted for many, many years. I've been talking about the union between Roman Catholic Church and Islam and other religions to create a supra mega perennialist religion for probably 20 years. And then beyond that we talked about Dune in the way that Dune for example last week or few days ago we talked about Dune predicts this convergence into World religion that combines Islam with Catholicism and they have their own Bible in the dune story called the orange catholic bible. So we talked about that a couple days ago

3:03:16 But that's fiction. And of course, a lot of times fiction encodes and predicts through predictive programming you could say A lot of what comes about in reality and there's a lot of reasons how and why it does that sometimes the authors are insiders Sometimes they know very powerful people sometimes like Philip K Dick They're in the circles but people in Silicon Valley so he can write into his dystopian sci-fi classics What The Elite have planned Sometimes it's people who are in the British establishment and they hear about what's going on. And they write books like Wanting Seed, Anthony Burgess who wrote the novel about enforced homosexuality in the future dystopia very close to what Huxley put in Brand New World which is the idea that there's enforced well basically have to sleep with everybody so it's illegal not to touch butts with anyone who requests

3:04:09 And you're medicated if you disagree because something's wrong with you. Why would you not want to sleep with everyone? So this all becomes a mandated technocracy where your controlled by your addictions and passions, you are given Soma in Brave New World which is a drug that makes you kind of lackadaisical and have this sort of drug trip experience In the religion of Brave New World it is connected to a kinda orgy that mimics the Christian religious service almost kinda like kind of like a new agey black mass where everybody's just sort of having sex. But also taking a kind of quasi hallucinogenic drug

3:04:45 That's the religious service that you see in Braveden world and that is where all the rainbow churches would like to take everybody in the future as well as this new alliance that has forged between the Vatican and Islam. Now publicly, globally, in response supposedly to the evils of Donald Trump going toward Iran I disagree with Donald Trump war in Iran However, that's a false choice. I don't have to choose the globalist socialist papacy uniting with Islam or The Zionist approach but Donald Trump has what if I reject both of those because as an Orthodox Christian? I don't believe either of those approaches are correct So there's other options that we can that we can choose in the midst of false dialectics and false choices false either-or s

3:05:33 But when we want to talk about these books and how well laid out this is, there's so many of them that it's actually difficult to really pick the best or the worst or whatever because. So many of these writings of the elite over the last century they actually have each one of them kind has unique angles and pieces that it brings to the table puzzle pieces that fits in with their overall picture but if we were to rewind a long time ago You heard me mention this a couple days ago. There was a famous count named Count Kutchenhoff Kalergi and he wrote a book called Practical Idealism, and you may have heard people say there's this is the Kalergi plan, the Kalergi plan. And this book was written in 1925. And the point of this book was that there has to be a European Union that would eventually erase every

3:06:31 and you could call it a European nation state group, right? So there won't be Scots people. There won't be Irish people or won't be Britons. There won't be Italians are going to be your French they will all be blended into a generic glob of blob union erasing all their unique cultural distinctives. under the banner of equality, egalitarianism and freedom and unity. And he argues that this will be done through not just the EU but that it will create the rise of a Jewish superclass now that's his argument not mine so if you take issue with that if we say oh that's an evil conspiracy theory well I mean he says it clear as day within the first 30 or 40 pages he talks about

3:07:24 Now, you said well who cares what this guy says? Who is he? Well this plan was presented to the elites of the British Empire and they said we like your plan. This is covered in Quigley's Anglo-American Establishment book which is kind of a sequel to Tragedy and Hope And in the Anglo American establishment The elites of Britain said...this was the Rothschilds and the Fabians and the Milner elite They said we like your plan Count But we also like Lord Curtis's plan. So we're gonna go with the blend of both of those and Lord Curtis's plan was what he called the Commonwealth Of God, which was a kind of rebranding of the British Empire to be kinda light Fabian socialist global order that was The Commonwealth Of God Plan and this is Count Kutuzov-Kalergi counterplan that also blends very well with that

3:08:15 So the next time somebody says, well there's no evidence for that. It doesn't exist. You can point out the UN replacement migration documents that Alex has highlighted for 15 years 10-15 years You can point out the banker Larry Summers, who said that it's time to erase. Excuse me Peter Sutherland. Peter Sutherland the European banker said that the banking elite have already determined that is time to erase the unique European people groups with mass migration and other techniques to essentially breed them out. So that is why there is a massive influx of Muslim

3:08:55 into Europe and similar strategies are used of course in the United States as well. And that's including, in the last several years more and more Muslims as well we know that for example Max Blumenthal book Management of Savagery talks about the billions of dollars that the Saudis alone have put into funding Islamic education centers on mosques in the United States Combined with the massive importation of people from Islamic countries. There is definitely a strategy to change the existing demographics and population. And that's not a conspiracy theory, it's a form of warfare, right? There are books that are out of Cornell University that are out of the Army War College. Kelly Greenell has a book called Weapons of Mass Migration, it is an academic text. So it's not a conspiracy theory to talk about the use people groups as demographic warfare. If you remember few years ago even Erdogan made this clear when he says if

3:09:53 do what we want, we will flood your country with infinity migrants. And so he even threatened this as an open form of warfare showing that demographic warfare is well known to political leaders well known generals and army commanders. Because it's an ancient technique, it's an ancient strategy as well as other types of non kinetic techniques fifth generational warfare things that include cultural war things that include flooding the country or the target area with extreme forms of vice extreme forms of pornography we know this happened to people in Palestine In Gaza they were flooded with hardcore porn by the IDF

3:10:41 and the Mossad some years ago, and that's all publicly on record as a form of psychological warfare. You also have of course economic warfare so all these techniques are used And it is important to point out that none of these are new they're just sort of refined in their scientifically updated to be A mad scientist insane crazy dream now book that a friend of mine sent to me some years ago right before when the COVID PSYOP was let loose is a book called Millennium. And Millennium is a collection of all of these sort of Barbara Marx Hubbard, Timothy Leary, Carl Rogers, Jonas Salk, Marilyn Ferguson, Willis Harman type New World Order figures associated typically with sort of the boomer counterculture revolution in the 1960s. But they had a huge impact on the changing of the landscape of American morals and thought and these essays are all collected together in a book in 1981

3:11:43 that talks about social, excuse me. It talks about essential and non-essential workers. Willis Harmon who's a big Stanford research SRI guy who has written all types of globalist elite documents one of which he had a huge role in was the Maxwell Robert Maxwell published book Changing Images A Man which we covered in studio with Alex when I got ahold to the hard copy And that was, I think a pretty definitive text and elite textbook level tax for grad students who would be going into the bureaucratic system. And it was used at high-level universities for international relations students that were graduating in the 1980s this book also came out in early 1980s

3:12:33 And Willis Harman says that in the future, we're gonna understand that there's extra people and the extra people are gonna be a class lower. So you thought that you were getting a new world order of egalitarianism and radical equalitarianism where everyone is equal but no there will be a strata it's just that strata will be determined by the technocrats who decide who the essential or non-essential workers are and of course to non-essential workers are the extra people You may recall David Attenborough, the famous wildlife BBC Malthusian who often talked about the extra people. What will we do with the extra paper? Perhaps we shall have to get rid of them He always said this in his documentaries That's a term that the malfusions use for all the people that they see as essentially The profane and the worthless so Willis Harman argues that in the post-industrial society of the future

3:13:33 When the technocracy comes in, you'll have a universal basic income that's a form of social credit that determines your social worth. And everything will be needs based there won't be this idea of merit and you pulling yourself up by your bootstraps and creating your own small business it will all be essentially apportioned to you because you are part of the collective. And so austerity collectivism will come into vogue and even perhaps Tiny living you notice that tiny living is being promoted everywhere by design. It's very fashionable Especially when there is a bad economy, so why not just work from home in the future? Yes talks about working from home 1981 and the idea would be that in this great technocratic future

3:14:22 The new ethic will be eco based. So we'll base everything around what's good and bad for the environment, including how much population is allowed. And essentially that will be decided by computers because we can't leave that to humans they're subject to fallible emotions so technocracy requires that in the future the non essential workers their lifespans will be determined by how useful they are to the collective system and to Mother Earth. Social planning is the future and all of society has moved and evolved from individual thinking in the West to collective thinking.

3:15:03 So it's time to give up individuality for the good of the whole, the good of the collective. Now remember this didn't go away just because Trump got elected that overall technocratic agenda just because people aren't talking about it or because people think we've won trust the plan. No all of this continues to march on just look at all the technocrats who are pushing all of the worst things at Bilderberg just last week. All the same technocratic agenda that everybody thought, well forget about it Trump's elected who cares? It's all good now we won were taken over none of that changed in fact it was all reiterated and perhaps they got more done because people thought well we've actually won so there's no concern but not to worry about anymore

3:15:51 The other chapters in this book are relevant, but not super relevant for what we're going to be talking about today. But you do have figures like Timothy Leary talking about kind of a new satanic era of the future that will be based around transhumanism and he himself was an explicit Satanist. He said he was quote carrying on the work of Aleister Crowley And so to give all the boomers LSD was actually a means of enlightening them and waking them up from being essentially corporate And now in the future, he says transhumanism genetic modification cloning and the return of Gaia will be the future world that we go into. If you go to places in California like Topanga Canyon or wherever you find kind of Instagram yoga chick new age communities it's all boomers that run those that come out of this similar mindset and is funny

3:16:50 They think this is going to come about like everybody sort of they think that you're going to set up this sort of like massively depopulated tribal return to primitivism setting which is just so unrealistic given the nature of the global economy how integrated it is with technology. This idea that you're gonna have some sort of indigenous tribal setting where I don't know, really cool acid dropping boomers are going to be alive and leading everybody into this golden aeon. It's really preposterous but it's very useful for social engineering And for convincing people that you can create this kind of a new world just out of thin air, right? Not a whole lot of difference between that and the absurd idealism of a classical Marxist. We'll just get all the workers to rise up and then everybody will be fairer and everything will equal and we'll just divide everything up it will be perfect equality again to go back to some of the classics so you don't forget David Rockefeller who probably one of the most powerful men in history United States

3:17:53 created essentially the Council on Foreign Relations, created the Trilateral Commission out of that. Helped to create the Bilderberg Group, essentially donated the land for the United Nations had a huge role in the creation of the OSS and the CIA I mean on and on you can't get away from JP Morgan Chase and Chase Bank and Standard Oil tremendous industrial magnate oligarch baron power that the Rockefeller family has had. You really can't get away from that, but maybe they aren't conspiratorial. Maybe we're just making this up. Maybe it's all just for the good of the country and they're very nice people well in the photos which will always overlook the photos

3:18:45 You'll find him here meeting with gleefully meeting with Chinese communist leaders. And so he preceded Nixon, I think Nixon down here with Kissinger going and went to China but before that David Rockefeller prepared the way for Nixon to do that by going and setting up Chase Bank as the first bank in Communist China. By the way, here is praising Nelson Mandela, meaning with him praising Nelson Mandela Here he is at NAFTA, the push for NAFTA. So you'll find that Rockefellers are pretty much at the heart of everything including the erection of the first major bank in red China and they brag about this and of course Dave Rockefeller's old section in here by the way about his intelligence work how he came out of being intelligence operative and how that's really what prepared him

3:19:43 the future global oligarchical role that he gladly accepted. And we can't forget the classic chapter where he says, that he is a proud internationalist and that people accused him of wanting to set up a world government and being a globalists. And he says I proudly accept that mantle. I'm absolutely ecstatic in fact about creating a global government and the conspiracy theorists are correct. He actually says that he says yes, they are correct. I am trying to do that Here is a whole section where he brags about creating together with Other members of the European elite including members of the SS Bilderberg. This is yeah, of course. I helped create Bilderberg and very proud of that he says it doesn't do as much as I'd hoped but

3:20:34 Yeah, I had a huge role in creating that with Prince Bernhard of the Netherland and that's what our technocratic oligarchical elite is all about. He says I worked with Etienne d'Avignon and a bunch of other oligarchs to help create the Bilderberg Group. And he says our goal has always been it continues to be this is pages 416 and 17. The erection of a new world economic order and I work together was a big number Zensky and essentially says are puppet Jimmy Carter played a huge role in this. He says that there was a brief period where Ronald Reagan thought that he would challenge the Trilateral Commission and the CFR, and he says, in very coded language, he says Ronald Reagan figured out that maybe that wasn't the best idea to challenge the CFR and the trial. Maybe he's saying that gunshot might have had something to do with that but

3:21:34 If you want to understand how I learned all of this, this is why I constantly harp on the espionage and the spy angle to all this stuff tell you guys which. And now get people in the comments so boring boring who cares board well? You're just proudly touting your own ignorance because you may think it's boring but this is the people who rule over you This is the people who are force feeding you The garbage physically and culturally that you eat and take into your body and David Rockefeller says, the construction of this order all of this he says is because I was an intelligence officer. I learned that my effectiveness depended upon my ability to develop networks with reliable information and influence so he attributes his skill set to his intelligence work now who did he recruit in 1990? To be another key member of the CFR to help him do what he was up

3:22:35 Jeffrey Epstein, remember in the Bannon interview. The most notorious organized crime international fixer human trafficker PDF blackmail or person of recent note at last several decades was a legate David Rockefeller as I've seen himself bragged Not just being CFR but also being at the Trilateral Commission. So what's the goal of these people? Well, it turns out the guy that they created the Trilateral Commission for is a big new Brzezinski wrote a book in 1970 called Between Two Ages and he tells us everything about what the goal of the CFR and the Trilateral Commission and people like Jeffrey Epstein are ultimately up to. And it's not just

3:26:18 So that's going to be a fun debate tomorrow night. And of course, if you want my books yes I will have a book table and you can come get signed copies of Esoteric Hollywood 1 2 & 3 and some of my other books as well so we're talking about the admitted plans of the elite in their texts some of which i've covered his classics and some of which i've got over here that are pretty new that You may not have seen or heard of but of course Brzezinski as we said was one of these key figures who with the trilateral commission was created for And that's also something that your buddy Epstein was involved in there as David Rockefeller and Lord Rothschilds legate between two ages describes the future world. This is written in 1970 where Skynet will become a reality, he doesn't call it Skynet but he says computers will be interlinked with all those satellite networks and they will be able to use genetic modification and future perhaps nanotechnologies to mutate man

3:27:17 And turn man into something other than what he is. And that's within the first few pages, immediately talks about this genetic modification of man and the future Skynet world order they were going into. And you may have heard this because most people refer to this book when they want to talk about geoengineering weather control because he talked about it in a footnote back in 1970 that of course it's a reality. There's Brzezinski right there saying including geoengineering and weather war, something that even still people say doesn't exist. And if you talk about it, you are a crazy conspiracy theorist. He goes on to talk about the important role that religion will play in the future world order and things like Vatican II are preparing the way for the emergence of a new synthesis of all the world religions into something else, some new monstrosity.

3:28:14 He doesn't call it a monstrosity, but I'm calling it a monstrosity. But what about all of this esoteric, hermetic occult stuff that's everywhere in the last well you could say since the 1960s with the counterculture revolution or The Boomers? Where did we get all this yoga everywhere that yoga chicks and the importation of all these Far Eastern ideas and Tibetan Buddhism and You could say well, Hollywood had a key role in it. Yeah but who was one of the main people whose ideas influenced millions and millions of people including many of the elite? Well, it's a woman named Elena Blavatsky

3:28:50 Her esoteric system that she created was very influential on the United Nations and the early promoters of the Lucis Trust, which is now what used to be called the Lucifer Trust publishing company. Which publishes the books by Alice Bailey, Annie Besant and of course Madame Blavatsky herself who was thought for many years I think she probably was to be a British agent or perhaps a socialist well she was a Fabian socialist admittedly In fact, I think Gandhi attended her funeral. And Gandhi was a Fabian socialist and you may have heard of Aleister Crowley he was a huge fan of Manuel Blavatsky as well in fact he told his devotees to read the works of Blavatsky so she has a work called The Secret Doctrine and in this she says that the future religion of the new Aeon or the New Age that's coming is really the real central figure behind the New Age

3:29:45 and the syncretist idea of all the religions coming together in terms of Theosophy, which is her occult system. She said that new religion is one that will shift away from the dogmatism of a kind of patriarchal religion of God the Father or anything like that and she says... I can't believe I found this book. I think about this book in Austin so we found this at an Austin bookstore and I think their first edition so they're really expensive but I got ISIS unveiled One and two first edition copies. So this is a Blavatsky's priest of I, a priestesses of ISIS that's the religion of the future.

3:30:28 that will replace Christianity because we need a more feminine-centric religion, that will displace the logic and the reasoning and the warfare and dominance that masculine energies possess. Instead it will be a harmony synthesis peace feminine religion embodied in the figure of ISIS. And I can't prove this, but I think Dr John Coleman and his conspiracy books has a pretty convincing thesis that they had planned many decades ago to create pop stars. And I'm talking about the Lady Gagas, The Beyonces, The Madonas, The Katy Perry's, The Billie Eilish is all of these figures that would become essentially embodiments

3:31:15 Because they want to instantiate and incarnate a new religion based around the feminine principle that replaces what they call phallogocentrism or the phallic, logos reasoning centric religion of Christianity. Of the Bible etc... And to do that, you need an ideology or religion that is something new but also is seen and perceived as peaceful. And harmonious and in tune with nature and all this fake and gay nonsense which is a cloak for a fake religion created by the elite to dupe everybody into some sort of delusion, a mass delusion

3:31:57 that the real God is nature itself or ISIS, right? Because nature I mean, there's a generative principle you could say of masculine and feminine in nature. And of course that will be a big part of the debate tomorrow night when I debate the two Freemasons on whether it's a consistent Christian society or whether it's absolutely antithetical to Christianity. The religion of the worship of nature is essentially what we're talking about and that's what Blavatsky talks about she says that ISIS unveiled is the revealing of what was prior to now hidden, meaning we had to keep our secret society teachings in the background until the time was right when we've gained enough power through she says education. In fact she says that kindergarten...she wrote an article

3:32:49 like 100 plus years ago for the Scottish Rite magazine, or she was at least quoted in the Scottish Rite Magazine a hundred plus years ago saying that elementary school and education would be the key means by which The New Age. The religion of the new age will be inculcated and indoctrinated and brought about By the time that we're living in now so essentially she was predicting a near future revelation of the religion and worship of Isis, the goddess. Under the guise of anything like New Age or it doesn't have we don't all explicitly be walking into a temple that's called The Temple of Isis when we already have essentially churches that are flying the rainbow flags. That is equivalent to ISIS unveiled because were going to kind of pagan worship

3:33:39 a kind of temple prostitution religion, like my wife Jamie has talked about in a lot of her videos. In fact the last time she was on here on The Fourth Hour we covered Babylon mystery religion and the harlot and went to the ancient temple prostitution cults of the ancient world and saw that that's exactly what this is and what they want to bring back so Blavatsky's Fabian socialism is also intimately tied Her New Age revolution of promoting yoga, Eastern meditation techniques. You say anything like that transcendental meditation? It all kind of has the same flows from the same sort of branch or grows out of the same branch of her version of this secret doctrine which is this weird mix of everything from Eastern tantric practices to yoga

3:34:36 Neoplatonism to ritual magic, all of those things play a role in her concocted made up religion. And it is absolutely 100% made up she was not supposedly discovering some sort of hidden arcane thing she just sort of crafted together a system And one of the reasons Crowley liked her, I think was because she was successful at doing that in his cult. For example when you graduate the higher levels you then go on to create your religion so it's actually a school for learning how to create a cult and that's exactly what Blavatsky did now if you doubt that that's the case consider another member of the Fabian Socialists

3:35:20 this group that she was a part of, that was really run by Lord Rothschild and Lord Milner and other people in these elite circles over 100 years ago of the British Empire. through the ideas that they put forward was the famous figure HG Wells. And we've covered issue wells many, many times but I think of only mentioned this book once on the fourth hour and I'm sure everyone's forgotten it now would venture to say that probably no one maybe a handful of people in the audience have actually read it because he was wrote a lesser known book. I can't believe we got ahold of this old copy too This is probably 100 years old

3:36:00 1917 actually, I'm a 1917 copy of God the Invisible King by HG Wells. And HG Wells is talking about as a high level Freemason, high level socialist, high level Fabian socialists explicitly what the religion of the future would be now you might think well HG Wells if he was like a Marxist Socialist he was an atheist right so he would say that the future religion is just science and something like that Or should I say soins, but he doesn't say that. In fact he says no there will be a religion of the future it's just not going to be the religion Of western gods or christianity or anything like that? He says we will have a figure that we look to as our archetype or as our Sort of deity. He doesn't say he actually thinks it's a real deity or not. He just kind of leaves that ambiguous He says it's gonna be lucifer Yes lucifer

3:37:02 The God of HG Wells is the Promethean figure that the future will worship, the god Lucifer. And that will be the age or the aeon that the Fabian socialist technocrats bring in which will be an age of total one world government, one world religion, and one world currency. It includes massive depopulation for the good of the earth. So if you're going to argue for the good of the earth Then you need some kind of earth based religion or some sort of pantheistic type of religion and that's exactly what her religion is all about.

3:37:43 And that's I think why you see the pop stars, whether they know it or not. They don't have to know about Blavatsky and all this stuff. They have agents and handlers that essentially tell them what they're up to and what they're supposed to do because there are corporate products that are owned by their corporate products that are pushing an overall agenda and a cult agenda that goes beyond just making money or MK Ultra or blackmail none of that stuff is the end goal. The end goal is the erection of what HG Wells called the Luciferian era. And again, all of these books they all say the same thing. Now they're not all talking about the same topic right? So if we read you know Soldiers Of Reason by Alex Avea and Alex Jones did a lengthy interview some years back with Alex Avea and I remember when he put that big long interview out I went and bought this book and read the whole book

3:38:36 which is the history of the Rand Corporation. And Alex Abeya wrote this as one of the few people who was allowed inside Rand Corporation to do an official book from the basis of their own texts and documents. So it's not a conspiracy book, you have to understand that. And essentially what he admits is that the Rand Corporation is one of the premier think tanks they really designed in the 20th century and 21st century they were going into so everything from Obamacare to American education system being dumbing down on people the tax system to, you think of it mutually assured destruction. The Cold War that was all thought out by the Brainiacs and essentially the neocons you could say at the Rand Corporation people like Alfred Wulfstedter and Herman Kahn also figures like Edward Teller who were very instrumental in the creation of geoengineering

3:39:37 They were all working together on these projects that would eventually lead to the idea of how we would construct this specific world order. We've covered Kessler before many times, but we can't forget the importance of The Ghost in the Machine by Kessler who was given the Order of the British Empire. He was supposedly a Hungarian Marxist who became somehow Order of the British Empire. A lot of Marxists ended up Order of the British Empire And I think he committed suicide together with his wife, right? So this is a very bizarre figure. But he was very liked by the Royal Society establishment elite again these are the same people that are BFF with Jimmy Savile and Jeffrey Epstein so this is telling you the type of people we're talking about not surprising that they would unalive themselves but people forget that Kessler was very influential amongst these elites and said at the end of his book

3:40:35 We need to drug the food in the water and we need to dump people down. And we need to kill most people because that's the only thing that's good for Earth and for the progression of evolution, so people treat evolution as a religion. That's their religion. And he says uh that all the techniques that the CIA applied in terms of mind control will have to be used on a mass scale. So all that MKUltra stuff is really about massive social engineering He says explicitly there's the entire last chapter. You don't have to read this whole book, just go read the last chapter and it's everything that you hear all of us talking about now. He wrote this book in 1967 right? And this was a Royal Society produced text so this tells you what the Royal Society's attitude an inner core beliefs are again people find this hard to believe but nobody goes and reads the actual texts

3:41:30 That's what we do on my channel and we've lectured through probably 70 of these over the last decade. No one else does this, no one else has the receipts like I do and again not trying to say that you know like i give proper credence to Alex because Alex is the one that mentioned these books over the years he was aware of this way before I was But I went and got all the books, and more. And went way deep into all of them. Reading all of them. Annotating all of them. Doing lectures on all of them for the last 10 years. Yet my YouTube channel is still only at 200k subscribers. I would ask you please if you want this type of information... This type of data If you wanna get really deep into it We have a lot fun on my channel too Go subscribe to my channel Jay Dyer on YouTube

3:42:15 I'm also on X and on Rumble as well. So be sure and click on all of those Instagram, TikTok you name it follow me especially at x because i've been restreaming multi streaming now to accent all the different websites but let's not forget the Jonas Salk remember Jonas Salk? Jonas Salk was the developer of today's so-called inoculation science that we have And you might think, well if he cured polio and he did all these great things. Well in 1972 and it's got another book that I wrote too that says the same stuff. He wrote a book called Survival of the Wisest. Now what do you think he means by the wisest? He means the scientific priest class and people with all the money. That is the wisest people. In other words, the wisest people are the people who have the radical depopulation worldview. In fact even says

3:43:12 the survival of the human race, meaning the elite. They're going to have to even experiment in mass on pregnant women and he says we can do that through stabbies It's amazing to me that you can have books like this written and they've been out in the public domain for decades admitting that they wants to and will experiment on children experiment on the public creating mutations Nuremberg level illegality, right? Is it this all just crimes against humanity. And yet the people who advocate for crimes against humanity are the ones that are given the awards for greatest humans or whatever these fake and gay awards are. I mean, that's all psyops anyway to give all these disgusting people these awards but we also have books like The Greatest Humanity by

3:44:13 Game of Nations written by Miles Copeland relative of Stuart Copeland, right? You probably heard of the police people like Stewart Copeland Well miles Copeland was a high-level CIA operative and he was stationed primarily in the Middle East. He spent time in Egypt He spent time in Syria And this book is fascinating because it really shows how the CIA does what it does and why it does what it does Under the guise of consulting, they're really there to transition nation states into the long term positions that the CIA working at the best of the CFR and the Trilateral Commission wants to see those nations transition into. So for example, there's entire chapters in a book which we lectured this book ten years ago on my channel. The chapters where he says, of course we use terrorists, of course we arm radical Muslims. Yeah, duh who doesn't know that? Of course we used false flag events.

3:45:04 It's a classic technique just out of hand. Just says it yeah, absolutely that's our that's our strategy But I think the most enlightening part of the book is his reading list at the back Which we've talked about many times because a lot of people Again, they don't go into the text and look at the recommended reading and they don't want to see the big picture We're always focused on here in the now But Miles Copeland back in, I think he wrote this book in the late 1960s. He says if you wanna understand what the CIA's long term goals are he says read the CFR reports, read the RAND Corporation reports and he says read the writings of Bertrand Russell that's all the stuff that I've been lecturing through isn't it? So

3:45:47 Who else is out here saying this? Nobody, I mean except for Alex and a handful of people right. Who else is telling you well how about read some CIA books or the CIA said in the 1960's we're depopulating all these places and that's why we are doing these regime change operations not in immediate but The long term goal he says for Egypt Is to do whatever we need to do in Egypt For 50 100 years down the road getting the population down 20 size He says ultimately the Rand Corporation has written many white papers on how eventually to create a technocracy in all of these countries. So in other words, you got regime change, regime change, regime change to get the country to where it's sufficiently industrialized to where you can then have the technocracy that gets the population down

3:46:39 It's amazing how candid they are in all these books. You would be surprised and that is why we do that on my channel, is that we lecture through these as well many other things. We debate, we do comedic stuff. More recently though were covering another Council of Foreign Relations member book Burton Hirsch who wrote a book called The Old Boys which has the history of OSS and CIA and American oligarchical elite that run those organizations So here's a person from the establishment writing about the history of the establishment, telling you how they do it. And yet we still have people who say that it's All conspiracy theory, it's not real that exists. But I suspect that the reason for example that I can't get any Roman Catholic academics to come debate me on the history of the papacy in the last couple centuries from a geopolitical perspective is because none of them actually read these books. You have people like Trent Horn who goes on YouTube making videos downplaying the role of Epstein and ignoring the different connections

3:47:40 to the Vatican beyond just one email and ignoring other high-profile super predators and occultists like Jimmy Saville who were given the papal knighthood award by John Paul II, a supposed saint. All of that's downplayed and ignored and Roman Catholics will not debate in a public level the geopolitical entanglements which I think absolutely explain the actions of the papacy in the last century far better than this supposed infallible terrorism of Peter. Again, Trent Horn won't debate me or anyone else on the powerfully necessary topic of Vatican II statements about Islam and pagan religions and how they all work together in the plan of salvation

3:48:25 They won't debate any of that because they know that it's the death knell their position. But they will go talk to Ben Shapiro or people from The Daily Wire about ridiculous topics, but note that none of these people will actually come and debate at a formal level these kill shots wonder why that is well we know what that is. But beyond that I think it's important to say that the goal was also explained by one that you've all heard of. Of course, Alex has been talking about Rick. I first heard about Ray Kurzweil from Alex probably 20 years ago maybe more and from Jason Burmess probably 15-20 years ago

3:49:05 And he wrote this famous book called The Singularity is Near. And this is important because we're at this stage right now where the technocracy is literally rolling out, they don't necessarily have all the infrastructure everywhere in the world to have the technocracy. But I think the key places in the world where there might be significant opposition is precisely where they are beginning to roll it out. So particularly in the West and means that would eventually I think lock down free speech. We just saw last week Bilderberg talking about AI, talking about Palantir type technology people from Palantir there at Bilderberg with the idea of eventually creating and Kurtzfeld wrote these books 20 25 30 years ago

3:49:49 rolling out the technocracy and what was coming by design. So that's the real goal, that's the real plan and if you want to read about that you can go to jaysanalysis.com and you can get my new book Esther Colley with three where I discuss all this in detail sign copies in the shop be sure and follow Alex and support Alex in the store of the info wars at the option store everything I sell to you works obviously that's the goal so you get it and you like it, and you wanted to get it again. Everything I sell to you we put deep research into that I personally use now other promoting zeolites for decades with great sponsors because they really work and will tell you what they are well Bigley our sponsor has a really high quality private label top selling brand that we were able to private label who are bringing to you right now with unprecedented toxins in the environment with the chem trailing all the garbage of the food It is more important than ever to take zeolite on a regular basis but not all zeolites