FULL NEW ALEX JONES INTERVIEW WITH NICK FUENTES — 4/29/26

00:00 I mean, you were one of the first big interviews when people started to pay attention to Trump. When he went on your show in 2015 we're all gone. Nobody from the original movement is still hanging on because the principles are not there. The rhetoric's not there it's just not the same movement and so with the approval rating favorability collapsing You look around at the bench who do you really have left in the MAGA Movement? Yeah, it's Sean Hannity It's Mark Levin, its Loomer And I guess he's just gonna take what he can get. So it's a pretty grim and sad situation, I wouldn't- Yeah, he says, I anoint these people because listen, I talked to Trump supporters everywhere. That'll go off what my listeners want. I wanted to salvage Trump because that was overall better than Democrats so I kinda held back not wanting him to be precipitous even though it'd be super popular attacking him. I would say 80% of my listeners are pissed at me that I haven't attacked Trump more

00:51 I love Trump like, oh, I don't talk to you and that's why you do this for clicks. I don't care about CNN playing a clip of me. No, I wanna fix the country and the world. Yeah, I dunno how much danger we're in but just this idea that you're not at the cool kid table anymore it's like sophomoric. It's ridiculous and I've known you and my audience knows you too. And this has been an ongoing conversation between you and I for years and You had reservations and concerns and skepticism, but literally for no reason. We've had private conversations where you put on air I'm like Nick i know it's going bad but think about the Democrats we gotta if we totally leave him then we'll have no influence we need to not influence to get contact with him no influence to get him to not go sideways But now I've just given up I mean you were right you were right I was wrong I mean there's no doubt now this is a runaway train. Even in spite of the fact that

01:40 I turned out to be right. The pessimist sort of won with regard to the Trump movement, regardless of that fact Alex was always on the money in a sense that he was willing good for the country I don't think there's anything actually necessarily wrong with hoping that Trump was going to succeed, wanting the best from the Trump movement. Wanting the best from the Trump administration and it's true that was out of pure selflessness because it is true for the past two or three years It actually became more and more popular at least since the inauguration To attack Trump And really as negative as possible about Trump to play up The war in Iran Or even for that matter the War in Gaza

02:21 Some of the other things like the big beautiful bill, the lack of mass deportations. And I think that it was always a valid position even though it turned out maybe not to be true. It was a valid position to want Trump to eventually get it together and get back on track but now Trump goes out and just throws everybody under the bus. Even the people that believed in him even the people that maybe wanted to believe in him were hopeful for him willing the good in spite of himself in spite of his own betrayal love is own movement And so I suppose that's really the saddest thing. But the MAGA movement does not resemble what it originally was. It's something else now, it utterly and totally failed that was assimilated to the GOP. I'm not gonna vote for more MAGA. I'm not gonna vote for Vance or Rubio who are a part of this train wreck. They're complicit in it they're apart of it they own it- You got me because I've said this from the start of show This is an ass kissing contest

03:21 All I know in the universe is go with who has been right the most. You have been as right as much as I have and I'm one of the best people at that, you've even more right many ways That's why give me the future then. And I already said this eight times but I want a future I know you like to speculate, but just give me what you think the different breaks are here. Maybe we could get the vice presidency. And maybe that person can go all the way and win, but I really think we need to be open-minded a lot of people are trying to say well who's it gonna? Be who's gonna run Who are we gonna get behind that's going to win its like in 2016 nobody knew was Gonna be Trump

04:06 In May of 2015, when that primary started, Jeb Bush was the front runner at like 15%. And people said oh Rubio's interesting. Cruz is interesting. That was the feel. That was the triumvirate in May of 2015 it was Bush, Cruz and Rubio nobody knew that the asteroid called Donald Trump was going to crash into Earth and change everything forever and define our lives for a decade. I feel similarly about 2028. Let's not go all in on somebody that we know is not really going to be the guy, let's open up a space and say and create the appetite. Let's put the call out and say we need someone in 28 that's an outsider, we need a leader, we need a Caesar, we need someone that's gonna come in and truly put America first without little tech big tech without Israel without the compromises

06:23 And when they did that a year and half ago, it killed sales 70 plus percent of the auction store.com or actually in force where I come because they knew that was enforced. They believed it. Thank God we already had our sponsor that I don't own the options for calm and sells just continued on there. We'd be shut down. So a lot of what they're doing is announcing were shut down as Mark Twain rumors of my demise has been greatly exaggerated now. I've really been trying to get Nick Fulgente's on for three weeks. An he said man, I am just burnt out. I got to spend time with family. I'm going take a vacation. But I'll be back in late April. And then, I saw a few weeks ago he's secretly in Rome... He's always putting videos out there with Candace Owens and when they tried to kill Trump again last weekend they said they're in Rome planning his murder!

07:09 They also said that Erica Kirk, this trended and was even mainstream news. She did the fake attack on Trump to make it look like she's in danger. How crazy is that? I mean folks, I always get accused of conspiracy theories. I wanna be right. I wanna get real stuff. I wanna get trends. I'm not even a conspiracy theorist. That's a CIA term they use to criticize anybody that criticized or questioned the Kennedy assassination narrative. That's declassified in 67. The CIA created that in 63 right after it happened But there's this loss of confidence in the system, that's great. But then now people don't think anything is real. They think the world is flat. They think mountains are dead giants. They think humans could never build anything and aliens built... you know, Parthenon?

07:54 It's a wild moment, but out of all the stuff 60 something days in straight over moves closed Trump's pro rating plunging Nick Foyntes two years ago saying I'm not backing Trump because he's gonna go pure Zionist for everything. I've seen they own him and He saw a lot of media attacks weaken And he said they're gonna go to war with Iran and it's gonna drag us into all this and nobody was saying that But him They got Trump's approval rating plunging. You've got the economy faltering, inflation exploding. The Supreme Court though kind of giving a defibrillation to it or a lifeboat or like when a lifeguard you're drowning throws in the little buoy so you can get on it

08:36 They rightfully said you can't gerrymander districts just on race. So will that mitigate this? This is an insane time to be alive, I wanna get into it all with Nick Fuentes here in the next hour and 45 minutes that we've got with him, Nick J. Fuentes on Rumble. The media is obsessed with him demonizing 24 seven because he said there's gonna greater Israel project in the last decade now you have all the main Israeli ministers Saying oh, we're taking Lebanon. We're attacking Turkey were taken over everything And where the superpower and we control America in the head of the ADL a month ago says if You say Israel got us in this war? We're gonna censor you D bank you shut you down and We need to use the same energy of exploding pagers. We used on Hamas In our eight front war in America I mean this is this is over-the-top then you have

09:32 All the neocons, three weeks ago when Trump said we'll destroy you in one day. Your civilization will never come back. Trump says tune into Levin and we got to drop bombs like Hiroshima Nagasaki and all the talking points Israeli government were going to use neutron bombs. And then Trump does that I say 25th Amendment is asked me he does that. He backs off the next day says no nuclear weapons but then comes out and attacks me and calls me low IQ for going off the Pentagon report that the straight would get closed and the moodles wouldn't fall So you can say who's low IQ and who's not. I wanted Trump to succeed, uh...I thought we could try to salvage something. I think Nick with a lot of foresight said no it's just better to neuter this thing now but then how do you counter the Democrats and what they're gonna do? That's a lot i just threw out there Nick J Fuentes It's good to have you back here thanks for coming on only back a few days

10:23 And you and I both instant talking point, cuz you've exposed Southern Poverty Law Center so have I. We're instantly with no proof headlines everywhere by neocons it's the proof they're on the Southern Poverty Law Center list they are funded and you go look of course it is not true They helped sue me, demonize me but you want to listen doxed you almost got you killed and then now we get this thing where the so called Trump supporting right wing just lies when they're the ones on the payroll of Israel on record. Nick, that's a long rant great to have you here Yes, great to be back with you. Yeah I mean there's a lot to go over obviously there is a big SPLC indictment there is war with Iran and approval ratings but right out of the gate what you just talked about with the SPLC this is what really got me I was obviously away from show like you said took little bit time off feeling little burnt out then story comes out DOJ indictments against SPLC

11:21 And like you said, almost immediately with no proof no evidence. It doesn't even make sense they start to say that it is the far right or you could even say I would argue just a patriot movement that is actually funded by the far left and has a symbiotic relationship with the SPLC and we're all informants or something like that. And as I saw that when i was away and I had to remind people on my show like you just said, they tried to get me killed. And actually put out-I read on my show they put out an article in 2022... We have the clip but why don't we just recap it because they doxed my house and my office too even infiltrated us like yeah no folks he doesn't work for them all the major white supremacist groups that claim me and Nick work for Israel they did

12:07 Exactly, exactly right. And I pointed that out it's really these violent fringe extreme groups where they're infiltrated by informants you and I steer clear of that kind of stuff but i pointed out on my show last night they did a hit piece about me at the height of yay 24 You remember when uh me and yay came on your show? He was talking about running for president the height of all that media controversy, which is probably as notorious as I had ever been. As infamous that I had ever been at that point in time in my career they put out a hit piece about me basically telling everybody exactly where I lived. They told people how to get there. They put a picture of my house on their website. They interviewed my neighbors. They knocked on my front door. They talked about what floor I live on. They talked about my habits. This was pretty extraordinary.

12:57 came to my house and were peering inside the windows saying it appears that the basement unit is unoccupied, the first floor is unoccupied. It looks like he lives on the second floor and- Right, right. Like my fans were gonna seek retribution and this was put out on the SPLC website. This is a $700 million organization doxing at the time I believe I was 24 or 25 years old live streamer and I said on my show this is just kind of sick and twisted humor in it. This is an organization that almost got me killed. Of course that dox led to somebody coming into my house with a gun trying to murder me

13:42 As if that's not the case. Yeah, they say it was an alleged assassination attempt. They say that I'm claiming this he's knocking on the door screaming where's Nick with a loaded gun in his hands after he killed three people earlier in the day and you're right You were one of the only people and I really appreciate that that even talked about I like you as an overall person think you're smart to screw with some things I'm a target too, so when I stand up for you and stand up for myself. Where's the rest of the journalists when people are trying to kill journalists? This is like being an idiot not supporting you which is why they're all idiots almost no one supported you! Where's the instincts?! We're being shut down tomorrow And most of these so called conservative people don't even care Like oh that'll be less competition for us They're idiots

14:37 Well, you're 100% right because everybody's targeted. Everybody on the right wing it doesn't matter even what your views are Charlie Kirk was more moderate than the two of us more supportive of Trump everything else I know not to be glib about it but look what happened to him? They try to kill everybody docks kill whatever so You're right we're all in it together But there's something sort of sick about it. This group nearly gets me killed, doxes me leads to all this really a horrendous situation and another person was at you know the would be assassin himself was killed and now all these years later Now they say I'm in bed with this organization, they're paying me. I post today and said you know i am getting a little bit sick of politics half the replies are saying oh what? The SPLC money dried up all the SPLC stopped paying you. I'm like they tried to get me killed three years ago so it's pretty outrageous. Well I talked to real law enforcement experts that I respect and they said look if you talk about this event the copycats will know that's it. So talk about it, I've had same stuff you've had repeatedly and the answer is live behind a gate

15:39 Don't come to the door as Alex Jones lives or who's that? But yeah, no they're coming to kill us and It just I love these nameless accounts and bots out there Who don't have any skin in the game pointing at us To make them feel big and say oh their fans when we're the ones exposing the SPLC right And they're idiots botts paid campaign and a big part of this which you pointed out is it is all the pro-trump Influencers, it should just be said at this point that the Trump movement is actually hindering the right wing because as you know when people like you or I criticize the war in Iran which is legitimate. Because the war in Iran is not America first and its a disaster anyway you cut it

16:22 It's the pro-Trump influencers that are being paid under the table by PACs and by other political outfits and organizations. Israel doesn't hide it, six months ago Netanyahu said we're going to flood the US aid front warren buy influence They did Netanyahu came to the United Nations in September, you're right and said exactly that. He said it's an eight front war and we're gonna go on social media and it's them but it's also the Trump movement too. It's also the Trump organization they pay all these influencers to then smear people like you and I and it's never like they're never going to defend in itself and defended on its merits, it always turns into a smear that me and the Vatican and David Axelrod are plotting to attack Trump. Or you and I sold out and we got paid to go against the Republicans. And so it's like

17:12 There's something really sick about this whole thing where, and I know you more than me were willing the good for Trump. I know you wanted it to work and I wanted it to work too. I was just a bit more pessimistic but now to see both of us as the enemies and Loomer and Mark Levin elevated and promoted by Trump. Trump is on true social just glazing these people talking them up- And he's promoting them. Edmund Polls is killing him. The most unpopular unsavory people and I love how Loomer when I came out said, I don't think this shooting stage. I think it's real she Said with a screenshot that I was saying it was staged the level of deception with this woman Like she has total disrespect for her readers How would she do that? Well what does that even do?

17:57 Something's clearly wrong with her. And I don't say that just to be nasty, I think that clearly something is mentally wrong with her. She has no relationship with the truth at all. The things that she writes and things she says they don't make sense. I said something the other day, she's accusing me of working with the Vatican and Barack Obama and Candace Owens to undermine Trump. I posted something, I said everything Laura Loomer says is a lie. She goes in my replies and says notice how you didn't say I'm like, that's actually precisely what I said. I said exactly that so she is completely divorced from reality and you know- Yeah you're saying all of it is a lie and then she says oh notice you don't call me a liar. Exactly! She's like the anti truth. She's actually perfection of deceit

18:44 She is and you know, you and I we've known her a long time. This is somebody who's just totally unhinged And a broken individual but now she's kind of been dealt back into the game because she's one of the only people that's going to be one of these mercenary attack dogs for the Trump movement. She was basically auditioning for that role during the campaign and now she's got it and We all know she's being paid. We all know that she's getting fed information And I think that's the role as she's on her way now. Yeah, and I heard you talk about her but how does Trump think hitching himself one of those unsavory people and his numbers are the lowest 32% plunging? How did he go from jumping for people that supported him but warned him he was doing wrong for overall agenda to like jumping in bed with his enemies that hated his guts? I mean it just- Trump has definitely degenerated

19:34 It's all he's got left. I mean, that's the saddest thing is when you or him or anybody looks around, that's all that's left in his camp. Anybody else that sensible? All the grassroots from the very beginning. You were one of the first big interviews when people started to pay attention to Trump, when he went on your show in 2015 we're all gone Nobody from the original movement is still hanging on because the principles are not there, the rhetoric's not there. It's just not the same movement and so with the approval rating favorability collapsing you look around at the bench who do you really have left in the MAGA Movement? Yeah it's Sean Hannity its Mark Levin its Loomer and I guess he's just gonna take what he can get So it's a pretty grim and sad situation- He says I anoint these people and then listen I talk to Trump supporters everywhere

20:23 I don't go off what my listeners want. I wanted to salvage Trump because he was overall better than the Democrats, so I kind of held back not wanting to be precipitous even though it would be super popular attacking him. I'd say 80% of my listeners are pissed at me that I haven't attacked Trump more." I love Trump like, oh, I don't talk to you and that's why you do this for clicks. I don't care about CNN playing a clip of me. No, I wanna fix the country and the world. Yeah, I dunno how much danger we're in but just this idea that you're not at the cool kid table anymore it's like sophomoric. It's ridiculous and I've known you and my audience knows you too. And this has been an ongoing conversation between you and I for years and

21:03 You had reservations and concerns and skepticism, but literally for no reason- We've had private conversations we put on air. I'm like Nick, I know it's going bad but think about the Democrats we gotta if we totally leave him then will have no influence to get contact with him No influence to get them not go sideways But now i've just given up you were right. I was wrong There is no doubt this a runaway train Well even though me that isn't me Do we mute Nick? Test We lost Nick's connection. I think Netanyahu has activated the space laser, and that is what we're joking about. Every time people say it is a staged event... Let us reconnect. Oh, it was my earpiece? Nick, my earpiece went out you go ahead and talk.

21:58 Well, anyway so I was just going to pick up where he left off and basically say that even in spite of the fact that. I turned out to be right you know the pessimist sort of one with regard to the Trump movement regardless of that fat Alex was always on the money in a sense that he was willing good for the country I don't think there's anything actually necessarily wrong with hoping that Trump was going to succeed, wanting the best from the Trump movement. Wanting the best from the Trump administration and it's true that was out of pure selflessness because it is true for the past two or three years It actually became more and more popular at least since the inauguration To attack Trump And really as negative as possible about Trump to play up The war in Iran Or even for that matter the War in Gaza

22:44 Some of the other things like the big beautiful bill, the lack of mass deportations. And I think that it was always a valid position even though it turned out maybe not to be true. It was a valid position to want Trump to eventually get it together and get back on track but now Trump goes out and just throws everybody under the bus. Even the people that believed in him even the people that maybe wanted to believe in him were hopeful for him willing the good in spite of himself in spite of his own betrayal of his own movement And so I suppose that's really the saddest thing, but-. All right Nick stay there it wasn't my earpiece this happens like every two years the soundboard crashed So we're gonna reboot it during the break and sorry about that That was on our end Nick let's talk about this Trump is now saying oh yeah The Iran war will last at least four more months maybe a year maybe forever But was gonna all in in four days? I mean what a fiasco What does Nick Fuentes predict coming next he's got a great mind of predicting not just me stay with us

25:32 and more. Whatever you do, save and share those URLs alexjoneslive.com and alexjonesapp.com Take action now Paul Revere's your unstoppable and the globalists are going down hate watch spoke to several of Fuentes neighbors whose names are being withheld over concerns they may be harassed or targeted by Fuentes his followers You're interviewing my neighbors It says on the topic of Fuentes, most of the neighbors Hatewatch spoke with say the live streamer who pumps out vociferous white nationalist propaganda on his live streams appears meek in real life. Keeping to himself apparently entertaining few visitors and does not call attention to himself

26:21 Several said that when he is at his home in Berwyn, his movements appear to be limited to passing from his garage to the back door of the apartment. Funches' building is located on a quiet tree-lined street, a short walk from one of Berwyn's main shopping districts. On the block where The White Nationalist two story building is located, Hatewatch observes his neighbors doing weekend chores and children playing in yards and on sidewalks. From their property exterior, Hatewatch observed the basement apartment and the first floor was empty. They're literally looking through my windows. On the second floor, the blinds were drawn. Hate Watch also observed a construction permit on the window of the first floor of the building. Neighbors confirmed Hate Watch's impression that the basement and first floor appear to be currently unoccupied with Fuentes and his live streaming operation on the second floor. On another visit, a Hate Watch reporter knocked on the front door but there was no answer. So look like I'm not one to complain you know that about me

27:19 One thing you know about me is I don't complain, like I hate complaining. But how messed up is it? How messed up is this? This! This is insane. This is f***ed up and this is totally insane that a far-left political group with $1 billion in cash is posting for everybody to know where a person lives with this much detail This is insane. We look through his windows, this floor is unoccupied we think he lives in the second floor we talked to his neighbors we knocked on the front door these are his habits these are his whereabouts this should be illegal what is the purpose of this? It's not like they're reporting on my rhetoric

28:07 or my show, or my operation. They're literally telling everybody this is where he lives get him if you want to kill this guy This is where he can physically hurt this person That's all that it and everybody knows that That is like a soft form of homicide Because that is what they're doing here. They're trying to incite people to kill me! They're saying, if you want to mess with this person harassed his person intimidate assault murder this person This is where he can find them That's what it is While simultaneously saying He's a vociferous white nationalist but he's evil His fans are insane Okay

28:55 But then it gets better if that's not bad enough. So this super rich organization is just doxing a civilian, doxing a citizen. That's not bad enough they get what they want okay the docs exists because of the SPLC and when I get in controversy people start showing up and yeah someone tries to kill me and now a young man is dead Not this young man but the person that tried to kill me was killed by police Now, fast forward a year and half later and people are seriously saying that I'm getting paid by this organization. People are saying you sold out to the SPLC you took money now I see why you support the Democrats your in SPLC informant! And no one will ever know and no one will ever care because that is the nature of the information space

29:54 These pro-Trump influencers, they do not care about the truth. They have no integrity. They're all being paid. They have identified me as somebody that is contrary to Trump, contrary to the Republican Party and so because I am the enemy now they're just going to put that out there? They don't care that it's not true. Laura Loomer, all these other people putting this stuff out. This is just gonna be another one of those things they say about me just like the J6 thing Oh, that SPLC. Oh I heard he was with the SPLC but it's just one of those things that your repetition they put out there and nobody knows the SPLC is responsible for almost taking my life! I have to move because of them because they almost killed me and now i'm going to be tarred for the rest of my career with this insinuation then i'm also being paid by them

30:44 So even if somebody tries to kill you, they're still gonna say you're being paid by them. I have said thousands of times and I've said this hundreds of times to Trump personally sometimes five six times when i'm talking to him please stop saying it's on accident please stop saying they're incompetent we can send you all the documents it's on purpose here's who runs it here's who does it now that was eight nine years ago and off and on throughout then Now he's got all his advisors, or most of them and all the evidence. And you hear him more and more saying the Democrats are kamikazes it's all on purpose they hate America they're Satanists They want to bring us down It's all premeditated Yes! yes! yes! YES! Because it is the truth that when you tell the public Oh they're idiots

31:30 Oh, they're so incompetent. Yeah their constituents are but not the people running it It's the exact same leftist New World Order black rock UNWF program all over the freaking world! It is a premeditated evil attack in their own damn words They are villains. It's not like oh, they're just misguided fools No This is on purpose people that's what The Great Reset is They're doing it on purpose On purpose, on purpose. So this is what they do their scum the opposite of competence the opposite of trying to deliver success and excellence because they want to demoralize you and break your will remember how Gavin Newsom went yeah we can clean up San Francisco in LA anytime we want but we only did it for Xi Jinping he just went ha ha ha And as soon as he's gone were gonna have everybody crap everywhere murdering killing zombie needles everywhere

32:30 You remember, you ever seen the club? I know folks say they're just cleaning up this place because all those fancy eaters are coming in and out. All right well this was certainly interesting we've never had such technical difficulties for 17 years these offices but the board went out everything fried a bunch of crazy stuff i think point has been very kind to sit there for 25 minutes so the viewers while we got this back up and i'm getting really bad audio on my ears but i'm guessing we're back Houston right Get a thumbs up. Okay, thanks a lot guys I appreciate that so Nick i'm just gonna give you the floor till the hour ends we're to come back and restart the show out of The backup studio But what a what a circus? Um, i'm going to say it's the cia or whatever but it's just interesting coincidence that we shut down tomorrow at midnight Uh and start to Alex Jones Networking craziness like this happens So thanks for sitting there for 25 minutes while you were sitting there on hold What were you thinking about nick pointes?

33:19 Well, there's a lot to cover right? I mean there's a lot to go over maybe on the other side. Um, I think where we left off for talking a little bit about the SPLC and everything that's being talked about over the past couple of weeks. And talking a little bit about your support for Trump, him throwing you under the bus and so on but I guess the big thing we're gonna have to get into during this show, the other big thing is the situation in Iran maybe wanna get into that on the other side in the next hour? That's exactly where I'm gonna go as you called it two years ago. I got upset there at midnight hammer, the Pentagon told him don't do it now fuels exploding

33:57 Interest rates are gonna go up, inflation. It destroys his plan and he just gets more pigheaded by the minute. Yeah well and I don't even know what the plan is right now you know the big development over the past week is this big blockade they put in place last Tuesday when they extended the deadline indefinitely or this ceasefire uh and now it looks like it could really go on either direction that I'm hearing some reports they say that Trump may just declare victory and unilaterally end the conflict and leave. Just broke moments ago while we were experiencing technical difficulties that they're actually bringing one of the carrier strike groups back home, so the Gerald Ford is actually on its way back to the United States- Well that's actually what Joe Kent advised Trump when he resigned a month ago and again last week just leave sure it's not a victory but at least you can say it is and not get deeper into quicksand

34:51 Right, and maybe that's what we're gonna see. Or it could go the other way and we'd go back in with more bombing so we'll see. Alright two minutes and were going to make up for time for the 25 loss I apologize viewers not the crews fault totally bizarre pretty much solid state board just died The great folks at Binkley our main sponsor they fund like 90% of the operation Giveaway at an amazing American-made vehicle, super truck. You name it every month and there's a crossover period at the end of each month where you have the old offer in the new offer for one week together where when you buy any product at TheOfficer4.com you get put in to win both and in that last week

39:49 Nick, this is a short segment. A bunch of radio stations don't carry it but you've got the floor let's get into Iran You were the guy that called it my kiss on your ass just true you like prophetically how did you do that and now? It's obviously a fiasco what a disaster aircraft carriers leaving But Trump was so erratic What do you think's gonna happen well? Well its really difficult to say at this point I think it honestly could go either way And I predicted a lot of this from the very beginning about you know How we would get here and when we would get here But right now, and I said this on my show last night. We're in this state during the conflict where there is no clear plan. We were very clear about what the plan was at the very beginning. At the end of February 28th when the conflict started, the goal apparently was to

40:37 hit Iran as hard as possible and collapse the government. We were gonna hit them with everything we had, something like shock and awe, and the regime was supposed to utterly collapse and bring about regime change." And initially they said this would take about four days. Trump even said in his statement he said, and then once this operation is over, the people of Iran should emerge from their homes when we've done our work effectively when we've defeated their military and collapsed a regime and they could take back their country Obviously that didn't happen. And so those four days came and went, it became days weeks few weeks and it became clear the Iranian regime was not only not going to collapse but it actually consolidated. It became clear at that point that there was no plan B we had no idea actually what we were going to do if one the Strait of Hormuz had been closed two

41:27 the regime did not collapse. And three, that more bombing was not going to increase Iran's compliance or extract concessions as we've been in this period now with all these extending deadlines you might remember it was the first 48 hour deadline and then it got extended by five days 10 days 24 hours two weeks ceasefire last week the ceasefire was extended indefinitely and it seems that Trump administration is pursuing a dual track. Where at once they are seriously engaging Iran in diplomacy through mediators like Pakistan, potentially Qatar. At the same time we're increasing the force posture in the Middle East to carry on this bluff, this bluster that were gonna escalate the attacks against civilian infrastructure that were gonna restart the war at some point that we might carry out more assassination strikes and so these two things are happening in parallel

42:19 pursuing peace, but also mobilizing more assets to the Middle East. And so it's really hard to say exactly where that's going to go if there will be a diplomatic breakthrough or if the United States is going to have to go in hard again and like we talked about before that short break, it was just announced that one of the carriers is leaving the region He got three carriers there, the Ford, the Lincoln and the Bush. The Ford is now headed back to the United States so that might seem to indicate that maybe we're drawing down the force posture at the same time they say CENTCOM is drawing up plans to attack Iran all over again this time their civilian infrastructure and Trump is on true social saying no more Mr Nice Guy So really it could go either way I think a resumption of hostilities is inevitable

43:06 and it might not happen in days or weeks, but it is going to happen at some point. The core issues remain unresolved and that's the closure of the Strait of Hormuz and its nuclear issue There's going to have to be a confrontation. Iran won't budge, the United States is simply not able to come off of its red lines and we're also not able to retreat in a way that doesn't save face in some way so I think that a return to arms it's definitely going to happen. I don't know if it's gonna happen in this round of fighting It's conceivable that we find a way to live with Iran charging a toll on the straight It's also possible that we find that unacceptable and Trump doesn't wanna be humiliated. And we go back in really hard, and we give it another go before we wrap it up so I think that's kind of the current state of play. That's where we are on the war as far as work goes next totally unpredictable. I think-

44:15 I've been on the air 32 years. It wasn't until a few years ago, I started playing Air Raid Sirens almost every day that really highlights we're in crisis And if you study geopolitics, energy war all this. It's really hard to overstate how serious things are. Inflation is exploding major crop planting is not happening there's a guaranteed famine for millions of people next year already baked in 30% of fertilizer not going through the straight or moose of the global fertilizer The list goes on and on. The neocons are saying it's trillion D chest that this will make our oil industry boom

44:51 But really the numbers are just gonna increase prices for everybody that kills Trump's recovery that I was so supportive of So we look at this and we look at every time We have a peace deal Israel attacks Lebanon or attacks Iran to break the deal. The Iranians won't even go to the peace negotiations They say Trump's not in charge and then Trump like little kid goes Oh, I actually canceled the the the negotiations the UAE just left OPEC and a big blow to Saudi Arabia and the whole Western Alliance This is hurting long term the petrodollar. It's hurting America, Trump knows that but he doesn't have an exit ramp and so I've asked you the question Nick other facets of this with a big question obviously the Epstein files people get mad when i say this it's just a fact I've never seen evidence of trump doing something wrong but he told MTG and others disembarrasses my friends

45:39 He said publicly, this hurts a lot of innocent people. Well why do innocents fear the truth coming out? So about eight nine months ago when Elon left that's when everything started to change from your research from what you know obviously Trump is is a different Trump worse in his bad aspects Is it compromise? Is it frontal lobe dementia and then what are you predicts gonna happen where the different scenarios now Because he does seem to be degenerating quickly. And then we get into the different camps now of the insane, you had a term on your show for what it was? It's not MAGA now, it's not Israel First Now, I forget what it is but now it morphs into this minority of people mainly weren't Trump supporters before that are now these slavish supporters and then you've got majority Trump supporters who are totally freaked out but don't like the Democrats

46:32 And the poll numbers are plunging, it's a total disaster. And I know for people inside the White House six months ago they were doing alarm bells but he just doesn't listen has he made a secret deal to give the Democrats in the House and Senate? And maybe thinks they're gonna leave him alone does you believe that deals gonna work? A lot of this is speculation but you seem to be over the horizon with your predictions Nick Fuentes Well, it's funny you say that about Epstein and I'm a little bit skeptical of how much that is related to this. But here is what I will say about it and this just not ignorable You're right, you're 100% right that the timeline is incredibly conspicuous. So it was only a week before Rising Lion. That was Israel's original operation against Iran last year that precipitated Midnight Hammer when Israel attacked Iran by the way what day did they attack Iran last year?

47:22 June 13, 613. There's 613 commandments in the Mishnah so in the Old Testament the Jews believe that they're people of the book their people have the law there's the Ten Commandments but throughout the Old Testament the Hebrew Bible there's actually six hundred thirteen commandments and compile them in the Mishnah that's the basis of Rabbinic Judaism some sort of interesting numerology before Israel attacked Iran just a week before like you said Elon made his last visit to the Oval Office. And if you remember, he went to the Oval Office with a black eye And they said at the time, well Elon was playing with his kids and little X hit him in the face with a toy or something like that. That's why he had a black eye Trump actually commented on that He said I offered to give Elon makeup but he refused because he wanted everybody to see That is sort of weird statement So that was last time Elon was in the oval He had the black eye and Trump said hmmm I told him to cover it up But he wanted everybody know we have the black eyes It was then week after this

48:26 You might remember that when Trump and Elon had their falling out, Elon said well the reason Trump won't release the files is because he's in them. Then you get the war then The war goes on for 12 days they call it the 12 day war it ends with midnight hammer and then a couple days later Trump brokers to ceasefire between Israel and Iran A month later, Netanyahu makes his third visit to the White House up to that point on what day? July 7th. Seven seven more news so 61377 these are the bookends and it was the day before Netanyahu's third visit to commemorate and celebrate the victory in the war where Netanyahu presents Trump with a gift celebrating the victory over Iran It was the day before

49:13 that the DOJ promulgated the memo from Pam Bondi which buried the Epstein files. So you bookend the Iran war with a weird numerology, but also then the Epstein files. Elon brings it up he's got the black eye and then Pam Bondi puts out the memo saying there is no black books, there is no client list and we're not investigating anybody any further fast forward to now It was a week before this second war with Iran broke out that you had Congress release the files. And it was in January, everybody remembers that's when all the files came out and flooded the Internet not a few weeks after this, he get the second Iran War and then

49:54 And this is something which didn't get enough attention. It was a couple weeks ago that Melania Trump out of nowhere, out of the clear blue sky, this was after the ceasefire- I was about to bring that up. Trump said he didn't know she's gonna do it. She comes out and says it's real, it should be investigated contradicting him getting ahead of something. That was huge, talk about that and then I forget the name of it but when they launched this newest war 61 days ago Israel launched it on the day that 2300 years ago the Jews rose up and killed the Persians called Purim or something remember that so it's not even cryptic they're even hiding it they said oh we Netanyahu said we do this on the day where he rose up and killed all the Persians They are saying their liberating Persian but now were killing you all

50:40 Yeah, so February 28th was the day when they launched a war. That was a Friday I believe Purim was that following Monday and you're exactly right it does commemorate the Jewish defeat over the Persians and when the Israelis win When the Jews win they slaughter 70 thousand Persians This is in the Old Testament That's what that holiday commemorates And that is what started Roaring Lion It was Rising Lion last year It's Roaring Lion this year An then like you said Ceasefire gets announced three weeks ago to the day yesterday. It's a week after this that Melania Trump goes out there, like you said unannounced press conference contradicting her husband and says oh yeah the Epstein files are legitimate and I knew

51:21 nothing and I had nothing to do with that, seemingly like she's getting ahead of something. And so honest to God, I'm one of the less conspiratorial people about the Epstein files- Yeah you've been criticized because I know you'd study it and I get it. That's why I respect you. Some of them disagree but I always know from data why you're saying it. I never saw any Trump stuff with Epstein But his Ludwig line going to the island, he even said it publicly. MTG first told me before she resigned a week before she said no, he told me it'll embarrass my friends. He's sad this is gonna hurt innocent people. What do you mean? So yeah so again did he make a deal as using the Epstein file to blackmail them what do you think happening

52:04 I'm not sure exactly. I would imagine though the leverage goes against him, potentially the leverage goes against him maybe there's something in the files because again, the DOJ still has half of the files we they're supposed to be 6 million files that's not a joke or something Not that six million is funny in any way but they only released three million That's half of the total whom do knows what could be in the other. And you gotta understand, what was in the files already embarrassed Trump. There's documents and they're saying that he was eating baby's intestines and obviously these are just tips the FBI received. They're not corroborated it's not evidence wasn't proven in court but its like this stuff is deeply- Well they came to him showed him all this and said it's a new Russia. That's what I think of them show much crap

52:48 He just said forget that, I'm not facing that. Which then he by extension made himself guilty in Right, and it's possible they could be threatening him. There could be other things going on. It's hard to we can only speculate what the real situation is because there's no evidence but I will say and this is where you know I'm not an Epstein maximalist but you just cannot ignore the way that timeline maps onto this one You know? You just wouldn't be a good investigator if he didn't put all those things together And you're not necessarily sure exactly where that leads But clearly there's something going on here and you know what We don't about Epstien in the whole thing Thanks.

53:25 is that all of that ran through the Israeli deep state. All of that ran through, all these various former prime ministers defense ministers of Israel like Ehud Barak it all runs through unit 8200 Israeli intelligence and what is unit 8200 in Israeli intelligence deeply embedded in? Well Silicon Valley because it was in the year 2010 that Netanyahu and Ehud Barak and all these different Israeli ministers they basically told unit 8200 in the IDF go to the United States and start a bunch of tech startups, get in at the ground floor at all these different unicorn Silicon Valley companies. And now they're deeply embedded in all these different companies you have to look at people like Joe Lonsdale, like an Alex Karp, Sean Maguire. Sean Maguire is a spy! Well allegedly I'm using that loosely speaking obviously

54:18 Sean Maguire's a partner at Sequoia Capital. It's like the number one venture capital firm in Silicon Valley, they approve so much of the money that goes into these startups these tech startups over there and El Segundo and even further north. And a lot of them are produced by Israeli government US government others. They then sheep dip him and claim it's a private company than they own run Well, and you know Sean Maguire his wife is Israeli. His kids are Israeli He's like a Jewish nationalist all these guys are like that Joe Lonsdale is like that Joe Lonsdale says the hero is Cyrus who was Cyrus the Jewish Messiah The Gentile Jewish Messiah in the Bible they're all like this and so I don't think there's any doubt That's happening Israel sees weakness of Democrats are making their move not to control foreign policy But domestic saying eight front war why did Israel make its move right now to take over the US?

55:10 Well, I think that Israel recognized that they're losing the American constituency. They're recognizing that they're losing control of America, losing control of the conversation- So if they beat us up like a wife trying to leave it'll make us come back? Well, I think it's more like they're trying to swipe our credit card as much as they can before we get the divorce. To follow them out of court- Yeah, these realtors are like soon we won't need America screw them. They've said that exactly so yeah and swipe their credit card as fast possible. Right this is there go for broke. They're really going all the way. So they know they're cornered. They know the world turned against them most unfavored nation in the world Gallup exactly. So just screw it total chutzpah

55:53 But it's not just that, that's a huge part of it which is they anticipate that the progressive left might take power and they're skeptical of Israel's expansionist agenda. But the other part of it has a lot to do with the timeline of the Iran nuclear deal. This really, the countdown started when Trump withdrew the United States from the JCPOA in 2018 Because Obama brokered with John Kerry the JCPOA, the original deal in 2015. Sunsetted in 10 years Trump gets elected with the help of the Israelis you know that it wasn't a Russian connection was an Israeli connection and one of the things they wanted was for him to tank the deal which he did in 2018 now the Iranians continued to abide by the deal

56:36 for about a year, up until 2020. That's when they finally stopped carrying out all their obligations for the deal. Joe Biden gets elected and nobody knows this but immediately in 2021 Biden tried to resurrect the deal. Biden immediately in the first year in 21 tried to go to the Iranians and put the deal back together and the Iranians weren't into it Well, he kept trying and for a couple of years it looked like maybe he was going to get it because in 2023 Beijing brokered her approachment between Saudi Arabia and Iran which is a huge deal. I mean you know this and everybody else maybe knows this too. Saudi Arabia and Iran were in a proxy war for many many years China brought an end to that in 23

57:20 In August of 23, just a couple months before October 7th Biden had a prisoner swap with the Iranians. We gave them their Iranian prisoners we got American prisoners and then we unfroze that six billion dollars that was frozen in South Korea in Iranian funds it was on its way to Qatar and then to Iran two months later you get October seventh and spoils all of this so it was looking like maybe And maybe this is far-fetched, but certainly Biden was trying to get... No. Israel's continued to sabotage peace deals Well and that's just it I mean Biden was trying to get the Iranian nuclear deal back together October 7th shut that all down and then they got Trump elected This has just been one rolling campaign ever since October 7th taking that pretext using it for a war in Gaza Using it to expand the war into Lebanon Into Yemen Iraq

58:16 Syria and then ultimately into Iran itself, which they consider to be the head of the snake. And so yes it's like they anticipate that progressive left will take over and curb Israeli influence but also The countdown started when Trump pulled us out and then they and we had to act So you're good at looking into future I've asked this a couple times when we look at the crystal ball here Now Trump-and i got a clip of this he had Bassett say it over the weekend and now he is saying it Oh four months So now we're May, June, July, August. You know that's just roping us into this and now we got this big blockade will the book blockade hurts us as much as it hurts them. And did BlackRock so happy because it derails us and puts us into default was already the edge bankruptcy. So that's why up above this 35000 of a view but even above Israel to other globalist banks are happy

59:09 How do you see this unfolding? Make predictions, not predictions using 100%, but if you're guessing where does this go because now we're told four months. Play the clip here's Trump just today and he saying, well play the clip like, we are on same timeline as Ukraine now what is that it is open ended. The EU says a 20 to 30 year war they are getting conscription ready selective service here is going to be conscription ready I mean, what are they planning? Here's a clip. Every ship is right now underwater. Typically, that's pretty good What do you think Jared? I mean it's gonna be hard for them to make a naval comeback Okay Now they have an air force every one of their planes has been shot down or has been decimated

1:00:20 They have missiles, about 82% are gone. And they have drones and most of them are gone. Most of the factories are mostly gone and we have tremendous anti-drone equipment now between lasers and that new very special machine gun that knocks them out in the air like flies. We use bullets instead of million dollar missiles to knock out a $30,000 drone So I would say Jared would tell me that with everything you just heard, typically we're in pretty good shape. And in addition their economy is crashing there as you know their money they go out their money they don't have a name for it. Their money is valueless They've got inflation that nobody's ever seen before

1:01:10 Other than that, I think they're doing quite well. If you read the New York Times You'd say you'd say they're doing wonderfully because it's fake news or if your watch CNN mean you cover it all the time Do you think they're doing? Well do you think they're doing well where they have no Navy nowhere for snow anti-aircraft? other than what they may put there they may have brought in some light stuff during the ceasefire and we know exactly where it is so it'll be knocked out within the first 15 minutes. So we were told, it was a four day war and it wasn't about regime change now it is And okay we could- We dropped 7.6 million bombs on Vietnam and lost. We've dropped 20 thousand on them Trump's saying we blew their Navy up Their power was never about Navy! So how does this end? I mean I guess Trump can pull out now and declare victory that's a smart move

1:02:02 with the Iranians to rebuild, put a toll on the ships. But I don't think Israel's gonna let Trump do that. Nick point us? Yeah well i mean it looks like right now there's a couple of ways that could go and one way is that we could basically just leave and this was in The Journal the other day it said that Trump was exploring the possibility of declaring victory unilaterally and just ending the conflict without a deal well if that happens then Iran retains control over the Strait of Hormuz and they're not just going to take control over They're gonna charge money for every ship that goes through and they're saying that's going to be about a dollar per barrel of oil or $2 million per ship. And if we just leave right now, let's just imagine what happens on the next day will one Iran wins this is a loss for the United States it's a strategic defeat completely We hit them with everything we had Trump doubles down That's bigger failure So at the point is it's a pyrrhic victory already Joe Kent's right get out now

1:03:03 Well, I'm just talking about the logic here from the point of view of the military planners. And not only that, not only does Iran get to trade but then they get to charge money and they're going to use that money than rebuild their arsenal until they say they're already excavating their missile production facilities. They are gonna restart that's a lot of money coming in and that will deter any future US action because if we try to take another swing at it this year, next year down the road. Well Iran will more easily be able to close the strait they will have built more missiles more drones they know what works what doesn't They have taken some of our unexploded ordnance like our bunker buster bombs and are reverse engineering them so

1:03:42 The point I'm trying to make is that from the point of view of the US and Israel, if we withdraw right now all that does is start another countdown timer. Just like last year when we went to war with Iran last year what did that do? It accelerated Iran's timeline to either enrich more uranium build 300 more missiles per month and the Israelis started getting anxious saying every month we wait Iran is building another 300 missiles that are gonna rain down on Tel Aviv. And that's why regardless it's a lose-lose situation It is, because the alternative is we just go back in right now. And this is why the only... Joe Kent said it he's right about this He said we have to withdraw and then restrain Israel That's the operative part of that Because you can withdraw they'll drag us back You can withdraw you'll get another meeting with then-Yahuah Admar-Ilago

1:04:33 Like on New Year's, like in December. What you have to do is regime change in Israel their elections are coming up- So what does Netanyahu say to Trump that has him by the short hairs? I'm sure that the influence over Trump is very sophisticated. They've penetrated his administration, they've penetrated Central Command which is where this war's being run out of in the Pentagon it's one of the most Israeli infiltrated entities in the US government they penetrated the National Security Council they have Mike Waltz as UN ambassador from the NSC so you know who not...I don't think that he saying any magic words necessarily or who knows maybe he is but I think

1:05:12 They've basically created a matrix surrounding Trump. And this is what all the anonymous sources say, they have convinced Trump that this would be easy. Maybe they did Venezuela to whet his appetite. They said Iran's gonna be easy like that you're gonna be this historical precedent- He said last week he said look at Venezuela, it'll be the same. He told Tucker a month ago but last time I talked, he said it always works out for me. It's like a gambler. It's just delusional It is and I'm sure that's part of it. I'm sure they told them look this is how its gonna go, you're gonna hit Iran the government's gonna collapse and leaders are prone to this That's what Putin thought about Ukraine They cut a line straight to Kiev They bombed the airport because they thought the government would just fall And they wouldn't fight back and that would be that Yeah they didn't know it was a NATO setup? I knew that! I told Putin...I told him on air..I said your walking into a NATO trap

1:06:07 And we walked into a trap here. I mean, literally the exact same mistake Trump thought that we were gonna go in they would collapse They didn't now it's a war of attrition They've taken the straight as the military knew they would trump said it was totally vindicated even more than me because that was behind the curve But I'm super vindicated We're like batting 1,000 and we're the bad guys Like all I do is somebody's right? I listen to them like we're totally right inform you You know all the issues and these idiot neocon people attack us Every time Trump says he's won, every time he says, they all look senior idiots and it falls apart in hours. No, that would be- Let's come back and talk about the nonsense of this then I wanna add the midterms from approval rating. What do we do? We back Republicans what happens? This is a disaster. The polls are in, the Republicans are about to lose the Senate not just the House.

1:09:23 I look at the peacocks on corporate media that care about all their narcissistic garbage. And I think about Nick Fuentes and myself, because the guests I have aren't people that are accurate. I can disagree with their overall views on some things but I'm obsessed with people that are right over and over again. That's my North Star. So Nick, I sit here in horror okay you get millions of listeners today so do I. But it's like to people realize we know what The Pentagon tells Trump to do this war, he does it. We've been right about it all so we get demonized even though what's leading us towards destruction is just extremely frustrating to just tell the truth and then be demonized by a bunch of idiots that lie to themselves I guess what I'm asking you is how surreal is it since you've been doing media since your 16? And now you're at the very center of this and I know you want America to succeed So do I when we try to get

1:10:28 It's destructive, of course we're traitors. And there's like a sick part of me says fine people that all want to be slaves and destroyed will show you but then we're gonna get taken down with them so it's very paradoxical We can't give up how optimistic or just big picture like futuristic point is one of the different angles the midterms Trump You've got the floor here where do you see this going? What can the public do try take back control of our destiny water solutions Well, you're right. It's very frustrating and that's probably the most frustrating part is on some level people are working against their own interests. People are being deceived and they're being made to work against what is really in their best interest what's good for them which is to say that

1:11:10 We're in a war with Iran. We're not getting the deportations, we're not getting the Epstein files like the list goes on and on I said it on my show The other night it's like what was all of this for 10 years? All this struggle to fight and it's for weed legalization A White House ballroom a war with Iran and a corporate tax cut It's not very good And yet people are being convinced to defend this Here's the solution and here is maybe a way to reframe it a little bit. I said on my show on Monday, there is sort of black pilled way to think about this and there is clear pilled or white pilled way to think about it. And the black pill is to throw our hands up and say, this is so frustrating. Everybody is brainwashed everybody's being tricked and misled really by calculated deception that this influence campaign by the influencers who are being paid that's manufactured that's calculated it's intentional. And we could sort of throw our hands up and say it's so frustrating that they seem to be winning the propaganda war people are being mislead people are being tricked

1:12:10 We're on the money. We know what we're talking about, why won't they listen? And it's very sad that people are not free thinkers or it's sad that people don't find the real information or they're not receptive to it or they get confused I would say the other way to look at it though is to realize that we're playing the same game as the pro-Trump influencers, we're just playing it differently. Maybe we're playing the game all wrong and maybe we need to start thinking more like them. We could sort of lament the fact that people don't think and people are followers and all these problems that we have or we could kind of think how do we build a better mousetrap? And say how can we actually create

1:12:50 How can we create a system that makes people think our way? And I think that I'm white-pilled if young people are paying attention to how all of this works. People really need to be students of power, how power works the relationship between media and money and power. What's exciting about the Groypers, about Infowars is we have the young people. It's young people that watch us and particularly the young men they're the ones who are going to make the change. The young geniuses if we have the young geniuses and visionaries everything flows from them it does not flow from the boomers it doesn't flow honestly from any women it doesn't flow from low IQ people it's the brightest it's the most eclectic- And thats why the power structure

1:13:41 targets the young men just like a lion will kill the baby lions or a grizzly bear will kill the baby males. Absolutely, if we didn't have the power they wouldn't be trying to destroy us Right, that's the most important demographic though. They are the future and it's not just all of the young people It's in particular the cognitive elite The smartest young men in universities are trying to break into tech or finance or politics That's what they're worried about we don't care about terrorists We want to know about interesting people Right, right. And truly that has always been the game of the intelligence community is to look for those people and try to recruit them and get them on side and bring them into the fold. We have them instead I'm white pilled about that but the young men need to become students of power they need to get a little bit more sophisticated and i think that you know what is the political solution out of this

1:14:36 People talk about political solution, usually they mean voting. And I think that yeah voting is not really going to help a tonne. I think that the best bet for us in the future is 26 Democrats win by a lot and the only reason I want to see that is because The Democrats in the House will have oversight powers and they can slow down this administration. The administration is doing- They want to use the Democrat as a check Yes, yes exactly. I don't support Democrats in and of themselves but the Trump administration is bad like it's hurting us. So you want to kill the areas? Yes, yeah so that's why- Well that's why I called for 25th Amendment Trump knowing he attacked me and I love it! I was trying to get him just without having to do that get him to stop but he's not stopping

1:15:21 And he won't. Why would he? I mean, it's total exuberance in the White House. He is a megalomaniac. You know this you told me about it. You've said on your show too. He's totally unhinged and out to lunch. It's like the only thing that will oppose- I told you years ago but don't say yet but he is megalomaniac now Yeah and its clear. I mean it obvious. Reconnect with Nick Nick's back, you said it was totally obvious. Go ahead. Yeah I said it is totally obvious comparing himself to Jesus Christ his comments on Easter all these things like its very clear that he has got some problems here and so in any case the only way we can exert any kind of pressure on him is really from the Democrats get them in there to oppose the administration and then in 2028

1:16:18 This is the real play we need to find and get behind an America first Republican to win in the primary. Because I think that, The last thing that we need is a coronation of JD Vance. I know you feel differently than I do about him- No let's talk about that! I mean I get what your saying If we lose the midterms We have a shot at winning this general election That just based on political science But they're gonna go for stacking the Supreme Court Cramming it ending the filibusters. That's why I'm so concerned, but I get your logic that if we it's how it works the party in power then loses power So if they win the House and Senate then we win the next guy But you're right look I don't think JD Mance is a bad guy I don't think he's like a man sharing candidate but I get your points serious concerns whatever fine Then who would be well talk about the larger issue of this process of in at power out of power And then who would be the American first person? Who would be our dark horse who would be our our Savior

1:17:12 Well, like I said. I think that it just can't be a coronation because the way it is right now and this is something that people are not really hip to Is that for the past couple of years? The whole GOP establishment is just lining up behind JD Vance and Rubio who has now being considered an alternative by like the pro-Israel crowd Even he has said if Vance runs, he won't oppose. And in Rubio who knows if that's true? That might just be politics but like- Well by the way I told this story like six months before the election and I'm up at TPUSA in Michigan and they go hey JD Vance was to me a never met him person when he was even a candidate defended my free speech all those nice guy so I got whiskey in there and talk to him and he goes well I hear your consideration you know have it I'm the vice president

1:18:00 And I shook his hand and talked to him about you gotta go off the deep state. Here's the problems, and he goes yeah we're on that. I'm talking about Smith-Montag with him and then Chase Geiger comes in was like taping it so he messed up. I'm not mad at Chase but Chase has a camera they're like oh whoa! You know? I said delete that right now but point was is that is that He was just like no I have it months and months before he's like for the nomination I had So what does that how did he was just like I hadn't Yeah, I mean there's something going on there and he and his wife feel the same way about the nomination. The wife, Usha Vance allegedly she is already thinking she is the first lady She is already thinking that she is married to the president They don't think they just have a nominee They think they have the next presidency Why do you think they grabbed him at the shooting Saturday night for Trump?

1:18:48 Well, they say that's standard protocol but who knows? I mean maybe they were protecting the real VIP. Maybe there are something going on there- So it was a standard protocol to grab the vice president? I'm saying that's what they said. I'm saying that was their defense but like you said, I don't think that sounds right to me because you're right Trump is still eating his dinner when he- You've been a big critic of Vance and you predicted this Iran fiasco why are you a critic of Vance talk about it Well, Vance is very close with Peter Thiel who I don't trust. And I know Tucker's a good friend of Peter Thiel and I know you feel differently about Palantir and all that but I don't trust Peter Thiel at all. I'm Catholic. Peter Thiel just was on recording saying that the Pope is the Antichrist and all this kind of stuff. Anyway it's besides the point, Vance is a creation of Peter Thiel he's a creation

1:19:37 of little tech every step of the way. Recruited at Yale, sent out to Silicon Valley worked his fake career no show job in venture capital then he got the 15 million from Peter Thiel with the Trump endorsement to go into the Senate and so it's like in other words this is a guy that kind of owes everybody a lot. He owes all these people basically his entire career and he's going to be the president we don't even know who he is I mean 10 years ago He was a never Trumper. He voted for Evan McMullin, the CIA agent picked by Bill Kristol to be a spoiler in Utah. He loves Barack Obama on inauguration day in 17 he said like Trump supporters hate Obama because he's too smart. He's too cerebral and they hate that a black guy is more intelligent than them like this is who are the guys of chameleon I don't know who he is. I do not trust him. I do not love this Peter Thiel thing. He obviously owes everybody and

1:20:29 The way it's shaping out is that in 28, everyone's gonna get behind him. And if he goes out there and just starts winning every single primary, there's gonna be no room for a real contest and it's like there should be because Trump has been on the ballot three times- I simply cover facts. So you have Alexa 15 years ago, listen to every word you say for a decade all the cars are already self-driving they just don't tell ya'. Five years ago they passed a law that kills witches in all the cars My point is it's little tech The reason you see Palantir everywhere is they're doing the same thing Google and IBM and Microsoft do. They're coming in containing the contract something we see corporate media telling us about Palantir all day because they want to go, look be scared of big tech I'm not defending Palantir it's the same thing. I was gonna say it's just one more flavor at the ice cream shop so it's not a defense of Palantir. I'm just not going to sit there like oh

1:21:25 This is the surveillance state, it's already there. That that's my only point but I agree JT Vance was basically like you said grown by this thing and I was more pro Trump previously. I saw it as coming in to kind of surveil the deep states what Trump said because you got to have a an Indian guy like Lewis and Clark across country. You know Trump has had some big tech all the other big tech toast Obama and please allegiance to him who's been the shadow president so who do we bring into Big Tech take control? If it is a Palantir, which I'm not saying we should do but that was what we were sold and then Trump said kind of goes Oh forget Palantir because you look at the budget. Palantir's tiny compared to Google and Microsoft in Amazon and then Oracle so I'm just like telling listeners Okay Yeah I'll talk about Palantir every day cause the New York Times tells me too I'm just saying the exact same crap has been done by all these other guys And they get most the funding You see my point?

1:22:19 I totally understand, it's just that to me, I see Palantir is just as bad as them because they're in bed with Israel. They do these contracts- No they're using AI to kill people Yeah and its run by Alex Karp who's a freak. I mean Alex Karp is a freak who hates us He thinks that Christian nationalists are gonna kill him for being Jewish Well no he says his number one fear is the Christian nationals will throw him off of buildings Right! He's not worried about Muslims And they're all like that. Lonsdale at Founders Fund is like that, Sean McGuire at Sequoia is like that. All these people in little tech are like that. All these people in El Segundo and Silicon Valley are all like this! There's a lot of people even who are lesser known than I happen to know

1:23:02 some of their names, but they're like total pro-Israel partisans. Pro Trump, pro Israel and that's really what constitutes the movement behind Vance even look at his chief of staff Jacob Reis is a Tikva Fund fellow So he was literally backed by the Israel lobby from the very beginning. There's this article about how JD Vance's entourage is all like six foot five handsome chads, and then his little Jewish guys as chief of staff Jacob Reissus it's like so this is the kind of stuff that's going on over there and all I'm saying is in 28 We need a competition. Trump's been on the ballot three times, it's a question of succession. Who is going to lead the right wing? You go to TV USA or you got to CBAC it's all Trump what do they think in the future is? Right and and it really should be up to us to decide And I think we need another referendum on the party and basically we need to say look Trump didn't go far enough The MAGA movement failed when we can talk about why that is and how it happened

1:24:03 But the MAGA movement does not resemble what it originally was. It's something else now, it utterly and totally failed that was assimilated to the GOP I'm not going to vote for more MAGA. I'm not going to vote for Vance or Rubio who are a part of this train wreck they're complicit in it they're a part of it They own it- You got me because I said this from the start of show This is an ass kissing contest All I know in the universe is go with who has been right the most. You have been as right as much as I have, and I'm one of the best people at that and you've been even more right many ways That's why give me the future then and I already said this eight times but i want The future...I know you don't like to speculate but just give me what you think the different breaks are here

1:24:46 So I think in 28, we have a chance to run a dark horse that's America first. And I don't know who that person is gonna be. I've seen some interesting people. I don't wanna say necessarily cuz if I say them- Target him man. If I say oh, I like this guy then they're gonna say meet the Groiper candidate that's gonna run for, and they're going do that but there are some people that I've seen and I've noticed some young people that bring some energy to the table. Well, I can tell you this because Which is not bad to do with the top people and they are really concerned about you. Well, I'm not gonna run. I'm not old enough. But we don't want this other barber loss or get killed Yeah, I'm trying to stay alive out here You know God told me years ago your main mission stay alive Well that's it's a low bar but it gets its difficult sometimes say if you're above ground It's a good day

1:25:42 That's so true, I love that. It really is isn't it? You have to look at it that way sometimes as long as we're here and we're alive right even if we've lost other things that's what counts but back to my question so oh that's incredible so what back to what you think is gonna happen So I think that in 28, we got a shot. We got a window here where we can have another referendum on all this and we need an outsider to come in and run. Now, I don't know that a candidate like that is gonna win maybe we could get the vice presidency. Maybe that person can go all the way and win but I really think we need to be open-minded. A lot of people are trying to say well who's it going to be? Who's gonna run? Who are we gonna get behind that's gonna win? It's like in 2016 nobody knew was gonna be Trump

1:26:29 In May of 2015, when that primary started, Jeb Bush was the front runner at like 15%. And people said oh Rubio's interesting. Cruz is interesting. That was the feel. That was the triumvirate in May of 2015 it was Bush, Cruz and Rubio nobody knew that the asteroid called Donald Trump was gonna crash into Earth and change everything forever and define our lives for a decade. And I feel similarly about 2028. Let's not go all in on somebody that we know is not really going to be the guy, let's open up a space and say and create the appetite. Let's put the call out and say we need someone in 28 that's an outsider, we need a leader, we need a Caesar, we need someone that's gonna come in and truly put America first without little tech big tech without Israel without the compromises

1:27:19 We have to choose to believe because otherwise, I'm gonna tell you what if Vance gets a nomination. I don't think he has a good chance This is going to be the least popular administration in modern history It's already a disaster it's only gonna get worse. Yeah that's why we see advance trying to distance himself from Trump So exactly so i'm gonna put a headline on this last clip here Nick Fuentes calls for a dark horse messiah to save america or nick fuentes calls for a dark horse Republican to save America What's the headline here? That's the headline. We need a leader in 2028, we need the leader to rise up and take the nomination I would need and by the way it needs to be a Republican people think i'm like some Democrat i'm not. I want them to win the midterms to slow us down in 28 it's gotta be a Republican Democrats gonna kill us like literally- So there is your headline Nick Pointes calls for republican victory in 2028

1:28:13 With an asterisk, gotta be an America first Republican. We need a dark horse non MAGA is dead. Who would it be? A Massey? Would it be Tulsi Gabbard? Would it be R.P Jr.? It's not anybody that you would think of because consider there's precedent for this in 2020 Andrew Yang he's a low millionaire from New York and he got on the debate stage This is a precedent. In 2024, Vivek Ramaswamy ran for and he's an unknown, he's a billionaire. He might have been the nominee if it wasn't for Trump. If Trump were not in the race maybe Vivek would have been competitive. Now you got a guy like James Fishback in Florida

1:29:00 A total unknown entity going in against Byron Donalds, who is a shoe-in. He went from 4% to 23%, largely through social media, largely through virality on social media. I think the social media is empowering dark horses, unknowns to step in and take advantage of this. And you'd be surprised if someone has the right skill set they could really tap into something that's going on my generational run clavicular all these things that have been going on are all gesturing towards something pointing towards something greater. They're all anticipating something prefiguring something bigger than what comes after Trump

1:29:45 It's gotta be something that makes him look like a joke. I mean, what comes after Trump has to make them look like Barack Obama by comparison and needs to be serious balls, serious dictator energy. We need someone that isn't playing around because not to be...I'm kidding a little bit but we do need to get serious Look at our country. They let in 10 million illegals We tried to deport them and they rioted to prevent us from deporting people were war in Ukraine Were it war in Iran how long before war in Taiwan the debts approaching 40 trillion like we have real problems? I agree well Tucker Carlson you're no fan of the numbers show Republicans told him I green He said God after period or a president he doesn't want that what if Tucker Carlson ran

1:30:31 I don't know if i would get behind that. You know, I don't think he has the temperament to lead and I also think he's too much of an anti-Semite. I don't think someone with that much hatred in their heart... Someone needs to tell Tucker Carlson that we just actually have to love everybody as Christians! I'm kidding a little bit but no, I don't like Tucker and I don't trust him So I think he's full of it. And you know, he is kind of like, he did a thing at Turning Point USA and these college kids were pressing him a little bit and he lost his mind. He was angry. It's like if you can't handle a couple of college kids asking about your net worth how are you gonna handle campaign? I don't think that's gonna work out so but he's been pretty good though lately he's been pretty good even though we have our differences-

1:31:19 with vice president Nick Fuentes. No, you'd be the vice president if it's him he that's your guy? Well listen Tucker when nobody was defending me or you were but being censored he did I mean i like Tucker yeah I know you think he's a weasel whatever I really don't I like the fact he's hot-headed and like when you said something about his daddy called you know threatened to do you know I mean yeah I liked the hot head in essence Well, I did his show and then he started talking trash about me. I'm like Tucker, I thought we were friends now like we had dinner. I thought we were cool and then he starts saying I'm an anti-Semite everywhere so you know? I want to be his friend! He doesn't want... You know, he thinks i'm gay. He's going around telling everybody that little gay kid that doesn't support JD Vance it's like bro what's your problem? Don't tell him abou the threesome you and me and Tucker had in Vegas

1:32:13 I didn't think you were gonna put that out there. That's a, you know...I went straight to Rome from Vegas! And then J.D. Vance came in and Melania was there. That was crazy night huh? Me and Tucker had a little good time at that outhouse right there. It's a joke folks it's a joke hey but seriously i love how you told me like three weeks ago come on take a vacation on burnout and they claim you're over their plotting Trump's death in Rome Yeah, with the Vatican and well we're all from Chicago so we all know each other right? Me the Pope and Obama. The truth is I'm gonna complain me and Tucker and Obama had a threesome Damn! I'd like to see that Well it was actually playing golf but... That's a joke folks! I've been doing some viral stuff here Alright Nick thank you sorry about technical difficulties You've been proven right It's amazing How do people find your show in there Are you doing a show tonight at what time is it