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3:11:27 and then fullerstore.com are available at drjonesnaturals.com. I'd say 2 p.m tomorrow we're gonna do a live emergency commercial free show to break down the aftermath of this and what it means but here is what Jack Masubic mentioned a little while ago security alert from the state department large gatherings over the next 48 hours in Russia predicting attacks on mass gatherings. So Ukraine says we're going to attack mass gatherings and the State Department puts out a warning for it. In closing, Jack, other key intel people should know because if Russia responds to this or over responds, this is a big provocation. This is a 9-11 style event in Russia right now with the White House distancing itself with Ukraine separately saying they're about to strike civilian targets.
3:12:19 Look, Alex, everyone needs to keep cool heads about this. And we're entering a very dangerous phase because as Western media, the Financial Times, The Economist, The Atlantic, so many others have all but essentially written off the fact that Russia is clearly going to be able to maintain these four new oblasts that they've brought into the Federation. In their view, that also they're saying they're specifically, and the Russian Press Secretary, essentially one of their communications directors in the Kremlin came out earlier today and said our main goal is securing the security of the people in these provinces. What does that mean? That means that Russia might be going and I would actually be so far as to say that if this is connected to Russia, I think that they are going to push for a full on regime change operation in Kiev.
3:13:20 They are going to look for getting rid of Zelensky. They are going to look for getting rid of the current leadership and finding leadership that is more amenable to peace talks. Because I don't believe that they're going to want to talk to anyone. They will not sit down with anyone who was involved in the mass slaughter of their civilian. So we're not just talking about a military assault on Kiev. We're talking about directly, not even talking till they remove the government. This just escalated. I think that's exactly right. Well, I wouldn't necessarily say it escalated, but I would say that their goals potentially have escalated. You're not going to necessarily see Putin go nuclear or anything like this. But let's just say that Ivan Veselevich has been unleashed. That's Ivan IV, aka Ivan the Terrible. And they are going to put shoulder to the wheel and go all the way through until they believe their security ends have been achieved. And I would say that includes
3:14:16 the downfall of the regime that's currently in control in Ukraine. No, they won't. And in the view of the global south, in the view of the Russian people, in the view of the people, probably even in China and many parts of the world, they are going to view the United States as being behind this, whether the United States is or not. Perception is reality in these conflicts. And it is very clear to me that the perception will, and quite frankly already is, that the CIA was behind this or had some kind of hand in this. Of course, by the way,
3:14:56 Victoria Newell and or the CIA or any of these groups could be involved in anything like this. They're not going to tell Biden. They're not going to tell the White House. Of course, they would be keeping it compartmentalized and keeping it away from anything to do that Biden might just bumble out. Let me ask this, Jack. What are they thinking? What do they think this would do? Like why would you attack and blow up a Russian mall when Kiev said we're gonna do it, we're gonna attack malls a month ago? Why would you do that to be the villain? Why is Israel carpet bombing the Palestinians? Well, what is the point? So there's a few things that are at play here in and one of them is that the horse is just out of the barn. The horse is out of the barn and the farmer can't track it down anymore and the horse is absolutely running amok. So these, and keep in mind Alex, go back to the New York Times piece. You brought it up a minute ago. Go back to the very end of that piece.
3:15:46 The very end of that piece was actually kind of a message to the Russians saying, hey, the CIA wasn't behind all these assassination programs and operations that are being run by the units that we trained. And it turns out that Putin off, okay, we may have trained him, we may have taught him how to do all this stuff. We did not authorize him to go and conduct all these attacks in Russia. We thought he was just gonna do stuff against the separatists. And the CIA was using that New York Times article as a way to distance themselves from the operations. It might be, and keep in mind that CIA and the Ukrainian forces brought those New York Times reporters into these bases. This was a limited hangout. And it's possible that with the timing of that plus the timing of this State Department cable which came out in
3:16:32 March 7, so about two weeks ago, almost exactly two weeks ago today. That all indications are that they knew something was coming, they knew something could be tied to them. They were trying to distance themselves and they could have been trying to distance themselves all the way as far back as that New York Times article by saying, look, we may have trained this guy, but we are not trying to take responsibility for the things that he's done now. Well, Jack, I don't think there's any trying. They just did it. They say weeks ago, oh, massive terror attacks on shopping malls. Don't be, and then now it happens with the Ukrainians saying we're going to do it. Exactly. They want to have their cake and eat it too. This is a very dangerous time. They're going, they're going rogue. They're completely going rogue. They, we have created, we in the West. That's what you said three weeks ago. Hold on. You said Newland is going to go there to go rogue. You said that.
3:17:27 Yes, they have created monsters all around the world. We've created these, it's like Frankenstein creates the monster. And then remember, the monster starts going berserk all around the world. And then who does Frankenstein's monster end up coming after in the end is the doctor himself. comes after his own creator. That's what's gonna happen. These monsters of our own creation, whether it be ISIS, whether it be these Ukrainian nationalists, these ultra nationalists over there in Eurasia, whether it be the Chinese Communist Party, whether it be so many others, they are eventually all going to number one, turn against us, but number two, go completely rogue and find
3:18:03 their own agendas. That's what's going on now. That's what's happening under this administration. When President Trump was in office, he was shutting down these operations left and right. He's the one who shut down Operation Timber Sycamore when he found out that the US was fueling the insurgency in Syria that led to to that led to ISIS. And the problem with that is that it's still going on even today over a decade later. Unfortunately, this Ukraine situation, and I think it's clear that the Russians, they're looking at this and they understand the Russians are gonna dig in. That's what they always do. They don't care if this is gonna, they're not looking to end this by the election. This might take place over two more years, over three more years, over four more years, even a decade plus. They are going to keep going until their strategic ends are met.
3:18:48 So in closing, and I appreciate your time, how do you expect the deep state to respond now to this? I think they're gonna do anything they can to distance themselves from this, number one. But you're also going to start seeing them potentially distance themselves from Zelensky himself if they have to. But I would also say with these guys going rogue, the biggest threat to them or biggest threat to Zelensky might not be Vladimir Putin right now. Vladimir Zelensky, I would say this to you and I've said this to you many times, your biggest threat might be within your own house right now.
3:19:25 So yeah, looking at the reshuffling, what do you think is about to happen in Ukraine? I've said for a number of times, I think military coup is the number one thing that I would see happening. The intelligence services of Ukraine coming out and saying this guy Zelensky has led us down this path. If the numbers actually come out of how many Ukrainians died in that counteroffensive, or how many Ukrainians died in Bakhmut, or how many Ukrainians died in Avdeevka, or any of these absolute debacles for the Ukrainian military, then Zelensky will be absolutely untenable in his position. He will be forced out, Ukrainian intelligence services will take over, they will install a new leader. And you're going to see an entire governmental organization that is committed to conducting attacks within Russia like this to turn the terror screws onto the Russian people as much as possible. As you said months ago, instead of a frontal attack- And it will be our fault, and it will be our fault, we will have been behind it. So instead of frontal assaults, Ukraine will go terror? Yes.
3:20:24 Alright, Jack Massova, God help me find you. At Human Events, the new book is called Unhumans. If you guys want to go and pre-order, it's going to come out on the 4th of July. This is talking about the very disgusting and the very demonic forces that people have tapped into throughout the world for years and are tapping into even now currently to unleash these occult, demonic, satanic forces that we're seeing play out every day from the streets of Moscow to the streets of Michigan. And I saw you today put on a clip from a Netflix show of all places showing malice and malism and- For the first time ever, man. Talk about that. I lost my mind because I've said for years that we'd never see something like this. The Chinese Communist Party, these unhumans that were unleashed. Now this is back in the 1960s. So this is back when cultural revolutions were still kind of in that third generation warfare where we saw the fusing of warfare and politics
3:21:24 Moving into fourth gen warfare with the media. And so you have these mass struggle sessions and that's exactly what's depicted in this new Netflix movie. It's actually a sci-fi movie called The Three Body Problem, very famous, internationally renowned series of sci-fi novels. The first one that's coming out, it's been adapted into a new American style Netflix show. It was already a TV show within China. But this is the first time I've ever seen anywhere an actual dramatization of the Chinese and a depiction of the Chinese Cultural Revolution. The sign underneath the gentleman's neck there that's hanging off of him, it says counter revolutionary extremist, kind of basically saying right wing extremist, which is his crime. His name is put around him. This is the opening of it, by the way, the opening of the novel. And the man was a teacher who's been beaten to death in front of his own family.
3:22:16 So regardless, we are in crazy times. And just like the globalists believe the Nord Stream, they don't want to admit they probably have the motive for this attack at the shopping mall. We'll learn more as the hours unfold. Jack Bassett, thank you so much. God bless, Alex. Stay strong. All right, we got 15 minutes till this show ends. No one Troyer takes over and I'm sure Owen will be covering this massive terror attack. Jay Dyer, he understands fourth hour host occasionally I comment Derek, but Jay, I apologize to all the other spaces people, everybody holding, we're out of time. We'll do more spaces here. We appreciate you tuning in. Jay, take us out the last 15 minutes with what your view on all this, and no one Troyer takes over.
3:22:58 Yeah, thank you, Alex. I appreciate that. I want to go back and give a little bit of context. We've been covering this a lot on my channel in the last year, especially since the special military operation really kicked off. The big picture that Alex mentioned earlier, he said, why is this happening? What's really going on here? I think we have to understand not just the Cold War, the great game. This is the old You could say Anglo-American establishment model of the way to control and have dominance on the global sphere is by controlling the Eurasian heartland. This is called the heartland theory of Halvard Mackinder. And as we move up into the Cold War period, CIA operatives like Miles Copeland, for example, in his famous book Game of Nations, I've lectured to that entire text, has an entire chapter where he discusses the
3:23:43 He says that the older model of the CIA prior to his days was to promote things like a more progressive model of pan Arab nationalism, but they found that that didn't really work. So they chose the older British intelligence model where they utilize the Muslim Brotherhood and other entities like that. Speaking of British intelligence there, to then commandeer and use radical Islam as a tool, as a skeleton key on the part of the CIA, particularly during the Cold War. The reason that's relevant here is that that's a strategy, that's a technique, a tool of radicalism, of using, as Jack Prusypik mentioned, perhaps fringe nationalist elements. That's another corollary to the usage of, say, a radical Islamic network. The same tools are used across the board. And we know that if we think about the neocon approach, neoconservatives are really just the old Trotskyites. They're the history, you can go to the history of, say, William Crystal, his father. These are Trotskyites.
3:24:40 They loved the use of terror. Trotsky was openly a big fan of Terlenin too, but Trotsky more so. And when the Bolshevik revolution, when Trotskyism failed, when Stalinism came to power, a lot of those what would become neocons, those Bolsheviks, they fled to other countries. And they continued that strategy. They adopted the mantle of a neocon eventually in America. And they've always pushed for the use of false flag terror. In fact, that's exactly what Miles Copeland is talking about. This is the strategy that Brzezinski came up with in the Soviet conflict to use what at that time was known as the Mujahideen, which would become Al Qaeda. The base, that's the network of terror that you use, black ops. But it's not just the use of radical Islam.
3:25:25 The far right was also used as terror, as cells, as we mentioned earlier with Operation Gladio. Gladio was the P2 recruitment strategy that was masterminded by people coming out of the OSS and CIA, the Special Operations Executive of British Intelligence and Black Ops, as well as Kissinger and others, to have these cells set up to at any point be triggered to operate all throughout Europe, by the way. engage in events at theaters, at religious sites, so forth. Public venues, malls, Fletcher Prouty mentioned similar types of operations that he was involved in in his book. So this is a well known strategy, well known technique that we see the pattern in the past in these admitted and declassified operations. So again, neoconservatism, they love the soft power approach, the soft approach of
3:26:18 humanitarian cover, things like National Endowment for Democracy, things like Carnegie Endowment, all of which, for example, have been in Russia in the past, promoting things like color revolution. We forget it, we can't forget the long black ops and espionage events that have occurred going back to Litvinenko, the supposed poisoning by agents of Putin. But very few recall that there was a French intelligence operative that came out and disclosed he was a whistleblower of sorts. And did a video talking about how Western intelligence has a whole hit team that goes around and does poisonings. And that can then be blamed on people like Putin.
3:26:55 I suspect that's the case, I don't know. In a lot of these cases, we'll never know. However, I do know that if I recall, it's George Soros that published Litvinenko's memoir. So that could tell us a little bit of who might be behind the support of this idea of Litvinenko's poisoning. This also mirrors the Skripal affair and the Novichok, all this sort of what I think was a made up idea. There is no evidence that there was Novichok. This was a staged thing that all again, prepares us for we're seeing now in the confrontation with Russia. This was again, this was prior to the Trump era, right? And then Trump is pictured as a Russian agent. That was all nonsense, but it also plays into the narrative of this new Cold War of this revitalized great game. And again, what is this ultimately about? Controlling the Eurasian heartland, the energy corridors that are there. That's why the Nord Stream pipeline I think was sabotaged by Western intelligence, like this pretty obvious.
3:27:51 doesn't really matter. We know who has the motive here, but who specifically was the team, we don't know that. But then again, this is the strategy of tension, the arc of crisis that I mentioned, which is, for example, Brzezinski's model of how in all the former Eastern Bloc countries, you stage terror, you stage collapse, you stage coup, not just with the soft power model of things like NED, color revolutions, that kind of stuff being promoted. The Gene Sharp model is the soft approach at the same time as you do the terror of the black ops stuff. That's why Brzezinski and you can look at Operation Underworld, right? Operation Underworld is the union with Western intelligence and organized crime networks to be involved in the funding not just of the black ops, but also of these kind of assassinations and hit teams.
3:28:39 So there's a long history of working with hit teams, organized crime, assassins, black ops. We saw, for example, the Maidan coup of 2014. Western intelligence, I believe, was behind the sniper event that occurred. That really helped to kick off the 2014 coup event. And that was all prepped for many, many years by all the money flowing in via Soros, via Color Revolutions, via Orange Revolution by a new lens admission to help foster the event in 2014 in Ukraine. That was a long term plan, long term strategy. Why? Because it all goes back to the great game. It all goes back to the Western Anglo American establishment and now also Israel model of controlling this key area where a huge portion of the world's resources and population exists, the Eurasian heartland.
3:29:33 It also is relevant to mention that although Russia is not necessarily a quote Christian nation per se, it's still returning. I mean, it's recovering from all of these years of Sovietism and communism. It's beginning to heal from that. It must be kept at bay. It must be kept down as Brzezinski admits in his books, as Kissinger admits as well. Brzezinski says in the Grand Chess Board this has to be done. So these strategy of tension, these crisis models are again, appropriated and used, expropriated and used I should say. both the soft power model and the black ops, false flag type of events. Again, I don't know for sure that this was a false flag event, but the standard pattern of history here lines up with everything that we've seen
3:30:15 in the past in terms of Gladio. Gladio is not what this is, it's not identical to Gladio. Gladio is a window into understanding how Western intelligence, the CIA, etc., have utilized these types of events and have planned and strategized these types of events in the past. So it becomes a kind of skeleton key as well to unlock and understand how this happens. And in fact, the same Green Berets in Gladio that trained the cells, the stay behind units to engage in sabotage and black ops and false flag shootings and so forth. They're the same Green Berets that went and taught at the School of Americas. So you understand this becomes the same pattern
3:30:55 Islamic terror as well. Also, Mujahideen trained by some of the same people if you read, for example, the Williams book or the Daniel Ganser Gladio thesis book. Again, this is all covered in books like Full Spectrum Dominance by F. William Engdahl. We've seen this over and over and over, and it's all part of a kind of continuing story back even to 9-11. 9-11 plays a key role in this. Even going back further to the 93 World Trade Center false flag event. It goes back to the Clinton era of bombing. taken out of Serbia and Slobodan Milosevic. I'm not saying that these people are good people. I'm just saying that this is all part of a long strategy, a long plan of the continued Cold War. So that the Western Anglo American Zionist Israel power structure can have the upper hand and have no potential opposition, no potential opponents.
3:31:52 then create this technocratic model of global governance. So this is just part of a long strategy, a long game for dominance, for full spectrum dominance. And to then bring in gradually as they're already rolling out now the World Economic Forum Skynet model as we see in front of our face, right? COVID was another example of this COVID played very strongly, very well into the narrative of the rollout of the new phase of the business plan to bring about the technocratic agenda. So this is where we are. We're at this stage now of all those same older operations. Don't forget Mockingbird, right? So think about Gladio as the skeleton key into understanding false flags in a kind of a black ops scenario. Think about Operation Mockingbird as a window, a skeleton key into the older model of understanding how to control and manage media, 400 plus journalists.
3:32:46 paid for, compromised throughout that period. Think about the Epstein operation as a way to understand how high level people and operatives are compromised in entertainment, in science, in media as well. So these windows that we have are all windows into exactly how the power structure runs things, how they control things. also the Federal Reserve right. I was gonna lecture on that today the fellow is the history the Federal Reserve in that model of fiat currency. Which is now collapsing into their version of a CBDC they want to have to they want to roll that out. As the new version of the fiat currency the new version of a- in. Infinitely inflatable of Zimbabwean online e-currency where you'll always forever be into debt so it's a perpetual debt model. Bitcoin I believe it's a solution to that.
3:33:38 And there's really no other options out of this system other than to oppose the technocratic agenda, oppose CBDCs, opt into things like Bitcoin, which is the hardest form of money out there. Oppose these endless neoconservative wars. Remember the strategy of neoconservatism, and it doesn't matter if Brzezinski wasn't a neocon, he basically had the same philosophy, the same approach. The strategy is perpetual terror, perpetual chaos, perpetual flux, because that's really Trotsky's philosophy. That's the Leninist philosophy. Nothing is stable, nothing is fixed, everything is flux, and therefore everything is in a perpetual revolution. It goes back to Hegelian dialectics and Marxism adopting Hegelian dialectics.
3:34:20 But the central enemy, the opposition is not classical quote Marxist. It's not the KGB. It's the Fortune 100, the Fortune 500, and the Western power structure. The deep state as the New York Times was laughingly portraying as a bunch of Trekkie dorks. and fat bitchy office women. This is the deep state, a bunch of fat bitchy office workers. No, that's not the deep state. We're talking about the OSS, the CIA, the National Security Establishment, the NED, these foundations, these NGO fronts, think tanks, the things that the Reese Committee investigated, Ford Foundation, Rockefeller Foundation, etc.
3:35:00 That's the real quote deep state, not a bunch of Trekkies sitting around fantasizing about furries and coonpods. So Gladio again is the key window into the black ops. Operation Mockerbird is the key window into how to control the media. And all that is is done on a high tech scale now. You just update the model, not with print media, but with Twitter files, with social media. That's the new updated version. the collusion between intelligence agencies and big tech, which is the new media now you see. So it's this exact same thing. They don't ever do anything different. There's never a new plan. It's always the same strategies of using the black ops, using the black markets, black ops funding. It's always the same strategy of using terror. That's the classic neoconservative model. It's the classic model of
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