2:27:27 Welcome back to the Oxygen show. I'm your guest host Jay Dyer. We are discussing the history of Fabian socialism and Fabian socialism is so key to understanding where we are today because it's more or less the overall ideology that is being pushed everywhere. You might say, well, but aren't we controlled by a big, you know, fortune 100, fortune 500. They're not no, actually they are socialists. Now, a lot of the people in those groups, the CEOs, they don't know anything. They don't. Fabianism, but what we want to get into is the history of this ideology as a tool for money to leads to push a consolidation and centralization program. That's the key here. That's why it's so useful and so effective.
2:28:09 And we have to go back to, as we said, Marx himself, who came up with this idea to actually create a secret society. Marx knew that if he could have a little inner core group and operate in a covert way, he would be much more effective than if he just tried to be public and overt. And so he came up with what he called the Communist League, which was his own little kind of inner core secret society. And he was fairly successful because he ended up getting a lot of liberal democratic wealthy money to defend him. And you might think, well, but didn't Marxism eventually become against liberal democracy? Yeah, but that's when it was later on achieving power and prominence. But when it was early on, it needed money. Right. None of these things work without funding, without money. And so Marx was perceptive enough to understand that he could probably get more done by having a secret society that initially allied itself with liberal publications and liberal financiers and liberal corporate interests.
2:29:06 And so we get at that time after Marx, there is a famous figure named George Bernard Shaw, the famous playwright, who decides that not everything that Marx said was right and it needed to be modified. So Shaw comes up with this idea. we touched on this a little bit last time I hosted, that we need reformed Marxism. Because Marx wasn't right that the proletariat, the workers, they didn't rise up to overthrow the capitalist pigs. No, in fact, all they cared about was going to getting their lunch break and getting a better paycheck. And so George Bernard Shaw said, what we actually need to do is take a slow motion turtle approach
2:29:49 a wolf in sheep's clothing approach to how we transform the entirety of society. And we could do that through cultural warfare over many decades much more effectively. Shaw said, than if we just outright tried to have a quote workers revolt. Right? So this was a terrible idea on the part of Marx, totally divorced from reality. But unfortunately, George Bernard Shaw was much more perceptive and he caught the attention of a lot of very wealthy elite people. In fact, not only did he attract the attention of Lord Milner, and the Rhodes circles of the diamond magnates and whatnot. He actually attracted the attention of Rockefeller, Carnegie and Ford. So it turns out that the corporate monopoly magnates had a great interest in this because they read Shaw's writings and said, hey, this is actually a much better way to infiltrate, transform, socially engineer
2:30:52 collectivize and nationalize all of the wealth and then transfer it off to private entities. And so they realized early on that this was a great scam model. And the amazing thing is that according to historian, Yohan Ratsu in his book, The Milner Fabian Conspiracy, which is a copiously documented four or 500 footnotes in this 500 page book, that the British East India Company model became the model for the Rhodes-Rothschild-Milner diamond model, which was the South Africa company, right? That was a chartered company. It was a monopoly corporate situation. So monopoly corporate interest and the structure, the charter that they have actually becomes the model for the Fabian Society, the Fabian Society, the socialist society, right?
2:31:47 literally said in their early meetings, we're going to model our structured society, our secret society, the same way that the Rhodes, Milner, Astor secret society was modeled. And that's what Quigley covers in his book, Anglo-American Establishment. So it's the same secret society, just using a different structure, different model and different fronts, right? Keep that in mind. And it is explicitly a secret society. In fact, it was Cecil Rhodes himself, the diamond magnate, who said, I'm going to construct this, the Rhodes Trust, around a secret society model.
2:32:24 Now, he himself was involved in other secret societies and occult groups. So whatever we want to think of all these different esoteric philosophies, the point is that it's a society, it's an inner party, an inner party elite that operates as a shadow government. So this is the real shadow government. This is the origins of the real shadow government. And then the Fabians modeled on this, and by the way, including some of the same people like Lord Milner, who was a Fabian, they said, let's just utilize this structure to have an inner party elite, inner party that's from them, and an outer party of a bunch of dumb-dumbs, idealistic dupes who actually think that this is to fix things. It's not to fix things, it's to transform society.