FULL NEW NICK FUENTES—ALEX JONES INTERVIEW 9/24/25: Jones & Fuentes Both Agree That There Is Now Credible Evidence Pointing Towards A Deep State Cover-Up Of Who Really Killed Charlie Kirk

00:00 Jim Jordan yesterday due to our oversight efforts Google commits to offer all creators previously kicked off YouTube to the political speech violations to return to their platform. But that's not all we have the alphabet letter. That's the parent company Eric Schmidt saying yeah, we're going to stop so I'm a little busy but I told you during a break you should go try to relaunch your channel and I'm doing it today. I'm going to get there with my driver's license all of it and I'm going to try to relaunch it. I don't show channel today. And the crew's like, well, let's worry about the algorithm. We're not going to get on there. I predict they're going to block it, which is fine. Then I'll get it to Jim Jordan, who I can call on the phone, leave it right there. This is just a part of investigation. And we're going to force their hand on this. But this does show some of the good stuff coming out of Trump, other than trying to start a nuclear war. What do you make of that?

00:49 Well, I'm skeptical of it like you are because then they came out actually, I don't know if it was today or yesterday and YouTube said it's a pilot program. I don't know if this is brand new. I think it just came out this- We're gonna let them all back, but it's a pilot program. Yes, so I'm deeply skeptical and you know that could mean one of two things. It might mean that they will do more later. That's what a pilot program is. They'll see how it goes. Maybe they'll bring on more people or it could mean that it's like a token concession and it's not actually what they're saying. Big, big creators, big talk show host. I'll stop there. They call them up and say, oh, we hear Evan Alex on.

01:27 The producers all talked to him, they're all tattletales. Better not do that, we're gonna demonetize you. So that's what goes on. But it's not like, oh, I went back on YouTube. But clearly, will you, because I'm not trying to hog the space here. It's a smart, not a stunt, it's a show. Let's commit, you and I both today, let's go try to log on. Let's try to relaunch the Nick J. Fuentes Show, America first. Let's try to relaunch Alex Jones Live. Let's do it when we get off here in 10 minutes. Let's do it. Absolutely. I'm game. Yeah, let's stress test it. Yeah, because it's horse crap. I totally agree with you. I don't know. Here's what I will say about YouTube. I am skeptical because you and I, we've been through a lot of the same nonsense that they always do like this. But at least from my perspective, there were times when I years ago, I would go on somebody's channel and they would get banned. That has not happened as far as I'm aware, at least in six or seven months. The last year, almost a year, I'm able to go on shows. They don't get banned or demonetized. Yeah. And suddenly my clips are everywhere too.

02:27 Yeah, same here. So there definitely is a liberalization. They're definitely opening it up. The question is just how far are they going to take it? I'm skeptical that you and me are going to be allowed right back on. Well, don't you think, because the Holy Spirit, at the end of the day, gut level is your own knowledge, your instincts, your life experience, but also the Holy Spirit. I just think Elon Musk is good. He got mad at Trump and left, and he put it all on the line. He's been majorly attacked. I mean, on X we've done nothing but support. I mean, I think, I don't think I know Elon doing what he did open up all of this. I agree with you. It's, he probably did more good on that than maybe almost anybody else up to and including Trump on some level. Yeah. And then Trump's treatment. I know the inside baseball, a bunch of jealous people ran Elon out and told him it was a bad move.

03:18 The government fears Alex Jones, who has the largest audience in the country, bigger than any of the networks, the biggest megaphone in the country. The deep state hates Alex Jones with a vengeance. Alex Jones is the most extraordinary person I've ever met. All right, I'll be completely frank with everybody like I always am. That's my superpower. I really like Nick Fuentes. When I first met him more than nine years ago, I thought he was smart. I thought he was funny. I knew some of his origin story, how he was censored for just mildly asking why does Israel so involved in our country.

04:00 I mean, I'm a routine watcher. I don't have a lot of time, but I mean, I probably watch an hour or so more, more of his nightly show every other day. So I mean, I'm a, I'm a lot of time. I'm a regular viewer. I think he's very snarky, very funny, very witty. He knows a lot of history for 26. It's extremely impressive. I think he knows more history than I did at 26 and I've been a history buff. So that said though, Every time I'm sitting there about to get him on as a guest, I call it a debate because we debate things, we disagree on some things. But then I see things he says and does, and sometimes I think it's a little too mean. And so, but at the end of the day, people need to stop being so nice in politics when the left and the globalists literally say white people are inherently evil, and Christians and Catholics are inherently evil, and white men are the worst thing on earth.

04:55 And all of this garbage, how do you then get mad at Nick, who then says back to them half of what they're saying. See, so you change the rules of the game. I'm not some closeted racist that hates black people. In fact, I've grown up in Dallas, had a ton of black friends, really cool, fun people. I've also dealt with racist black people that have physically attacked me many times. I mean, how many black people out there have been in, let's not exaggerate, 50 fights with black people? I mean, how many black folks have had At least 50 times that white people attacked you. I bet 99% of the statistics, percent of black folks out there have never had a white person physically attack you. And we know it's 20 to 1, 15 to 1 black on white crime. I don't in general dislike black people, cuz it's still a tiny minority of young black males that are committing around half the violent crime in this country. But when it happens, you don't cover it up or say it's okay. So people ask, do you agree with Nick Fuentes?

06:01 I agree that compared to the extremism of the ADL, the Southern Poverty Law Center, that is openly anti-Christian, anti-white, that what he's doing is healthy to get people to stop being politically correct and stop being bullied and stop feeling ashamed of being white. Because white people are under such attack. Because by demonizing whites, the globalists can demonize the idea of the West that is incompatible. So they literally say, you don't want a Second Amendment, that's a white man's thing. You don't want private property, that's a white man's thing. You don't want Western culture, that's a white man's thing. Because under Western culture, the globalist system of tyranny doesn't work. And the communists in the 50s and 60s learned, this has been declassified, they admitted it, they couldn't get black people to become communists. So instead they created liberation theology, the Ford Foundation, Carnegie Foundation, CIA, it's on record, declassified.

06:52 to go, oh, make it racial to hate capitalism and free market and sovereignty and all this. So I think Nick Fuentes is very strong medicine, but you cannot deny that in the Groper Wars and at TPUSA that Nick Fuentes predicted six, seven years ago, his movement would take over from inside TPUSA. It did. That is the main reason Charlie, who I love, is a great guy, Really started going hard on Israel was because his constituency demanded it and when he went to the universities it was happening Now this is quite the long intro. So then when Charlie Kirk gets executed two weeks ago today Instantly they blame Nick point as and the gropers for killing him with zero evidence Then when there's zero evidence of that Oh five days later, no one buys it with Bill Maher pushes it and

07:57 Now Nick Fuentes works for Netanyahu and is covering up that Israel did it because he got the call. This is, these are bots. A lot of people that aren't part of the bots pick it up and push it, but I know a synthetic attack because I've been under a lot of them. Now, the question is why do they try to frame Nick Fuentes before Charlie Kirk's body was even called? Then when that didn't work, why did they go with, oh, he works for Israel because somebody wants to make it all about Israel. Not all roads lead to Israel. Like Nick said, you just hit that button though. People are so awake about 95% of the time. It is that, but like sometimes it's not. And now we're moving into the zone of it does look like a coverup. Then who stood to gain and maybe Israel's there. You heard that Greenberry, Greenberry really smart. Now the Democrats wanted him dead. He got 2.5 million people to vote Trump. They moved the needle and went from

08:50 The tripled support in young males, it's Charlie Kirk and other things. So I'm looking for the reality. I wanna be tomorrow's news today. I wanna be accurate. I don't want to just jump on the first thing. I mean, if I came out and said Israel did it, I'd have 100 million, 500 million views that day. If I came out and said the security guard shoots him under the arm, billions of views. I'd also get my ass suit off. Plus, I'm going to lie about some dude, he has a cell phone under his arm. They hear the shot, he goes like that. You can't just run around and accept every cockamamie thing. You can't just believe Netanyahu was in a trap door as Nick said and shot him. Now, maybe Israel did. Maybe it comes out they did. I don't know.

09:27 I think they're like the second suspect group if this turns out to be a cover up after the Democrats. Then you can argue, well, maybe he was running for president and they were scared, so the Republicans got rid of him. Maybe there was a bunch of 500 million in the war chest and there was a battle over where that was. And I mean, you can go all day, you just can't, nobody ever said that. You just can't say something without the proof, in my view. We're entering that field house now, that wheelhouse of we have to speculate because where's the autopsy? They didn't have one folks. They found the bullet. We better see it. Uh, 30 odd six does not do that. Doesn't mean the corner's lying. He's told us 30 odd six. So not the corner of the attending physician. So, so that's a big 10 minute intro. We got Nick to the end of the next hour. So we got plenty of time that said, and he goes, you're going to have a debate every time you don't do that. I do think it's mean what you've been saying, Nick, but I don't want to go there first. Just putting it out there.

10:25 about Erica Kirk, it was a big production and this is blah, blah, blah. That's what TPUSA did was productions. This is what he would have wanted. I saw you admit that. She's a performer herself, that's who they are. So the fact that they're putting a good face on this, you can even say, the Republicans are being fake. Well, that revival was real. Realizing the left is evil was real. So I think you went too far on that. But it's gotta be weird to have first Daily Wire firing you because you wouldn't be flown to Israel and brainwashed, literally, was your nemesis. Then Kirk became your nemesis. You've been defeated both. But you've got to have the victor's, not even remorse, but kind of the victor's elegance to it at this nexus point.

11:23 So I'm not trying to be mean. I got a few things I disagree with you on. I see you coming around more and more on Trump on the borders. He scales up. So, so there's a lot. I appreciate you putting up with a 10 minute intro. Nick Fuentes, you've got the floor here. You finally with Nick Jay Fuentes on rumble and it's good to have you here. And also we're going to Trump next level insane. Oh, Ukraine on invade Russia. Now, I mean more than a one 80, this is like a, 1080, this is cuckoo town. So we're gonna get into that. Yeah, folks, the news didn't pick it up. You gotta read a statement about maybe Ukraine will take all the land back and win and then get even more. So we're gonna hit that. Nick Fuentes, thanks for being here. That's quite the introduction. You've got 15 minutes to break. Go ahead. Yes, well, thank you for having me. I think this is the first time we've spoken since Charlie Kirk was murdered. And

12:15 Of course, everybody's talking about who was actually responsible. And this is something that kind of has stuck out to me since it happened, is so much has been said about the significance of it and the gravity of the moment and what it means for our country. And yet we still don't know all the answers. We don't know for a fact who pulled the trigger. We don't know for a fact who was the gunman. We don't know for a fact if there was a wider conspiracy. And so at the same time, we're being told what it all means and what it means for us and for the country and the right and the left. At the same time, we actually don't even know what it is. We're being told what it means, we don't know what it is. And I would say that there's been so many different theories about it as well. Of course, there is the official narrative.

13:03 which is that the killer was a trans chaser. So he's apparently a gay man who was dating or had some kind of boyfriend who was a male to female transgender. And the going narrative is that he was basically some species of the left. We don't know if he's a liberal, Democrat, communist, socialist. We know maybe he's an ally of the LGBT. He inscribed on the bullets certain slogans associated with Reddit or the furry community. And we can surmise based on some of the text messages that have been shown to us, but which there are some outstanding questions about those, that he killed Charlie Kirk because of his anti-LGBT politics. So we basically have a lone gunman theory.

13:49 a lone gunman, 22 years old, clean record, no mental illness, no criminal background, gets his grandfather's rifle that was given to him, drives three hours to the venue, shoots this guy one shot, one kill, gets away clean, turns himself in. That's the official narrative. But like you said then, and a lot of people were quick to sort of move past this, but I think this was really interesting. Within 48 hours of the killing, there was this what I believe to be a top-down narrative. It came from the left, maybe from the Democrats, which said actually this was a far-right guy. And the inscriptions were not actually very clear about his political ideology, but actually they were ambiguous. They were vaguely referencing video games, vaguely referencing internet culture, and we really don't know. And then they started to say, well, he's a groyper.

14:41 All of a sudden you have these viral posts on Facebook and X that were talking about how I had this conflict with Charlie Kirk. And there was this major critique from the right wing, from Charlie Kirk's ideological right to his right. And so they said the shooter might have been a groper. He was a video gamer, extremely online, political radical, but they say maybe he was of the right. And that was kind of the first big quote unquote conspiracy theory. Right out of the gate, we had the official narrative. We had this guy, Tyler Robinson, trans boyfriend, etc. And then within 48 hours, the first big conspiracy was he's some sort of groiper. And the reason I believe that was top down is because it was so saturated.

15:24 And you said this earlier, you've been a subject of these attacks before, as have I. It's very apparent because of how quickly they achieve saturation. This theory was everywhere so quickly. It's very simple. An exact talking point explodes in a thousand places in one second, then 10,000 five seconds later, then a million five minutes later. It's boom. Right, it's exponential. The growth of it is exponential such that there was a poll released, I believe on the Monday following the killing. And it said that 25, 26% of Generation Z believed the killer was right wing. More young people believe the killer was right wing, a far right radical than believed he was left wing. That's how effective it was. And that's how- Let's be clear on this point. What you're saying is key, but it's not just exponential. When it first appears, when you know it's synthetic,

16:17 They will they will push at a thousand or more points instantly the exact same thing that doesn't work that way a script So, you know when it's staged because they they put it out immediately in the first attack everywhere the same second You know, it's being pushed by bots. That's how we know Right, right, it was instantaneous, exactly. And so you got to this point where a week later it was even being parroted on Jimmy Kimmel. Jimmy Kimmel, of course, the reason that he was leaned on is because he said that the right wing was pretending that the killer was everything other than what he was, which was MAGA or far right. And that was really the first big thing. The second wave, of course, then came.

16:56 And this was being pushed by Max Blumenthal on the gray zone by Candace Owens and perhaps by Tucker Carlson, I think significantly less so. But there was this insinuation, particularly from Blumenthal and Candace, that it was an Israeli conspiracy. And they centered on this meeting between Kirk and Bill Ackman in August, as well as apparently some kind of payment, some sort of bribe which was offered to Kirk by the Israelis directly to effectively buy his silence. And these were basically the three theories. These are the three theories as they stand is lone gunman, Groyper, and then some sort of Israeli conspiracy. And I like you wanna get to the truth. I wanna understand who killed Charlie Kirk. I wanna understand if there was a conspiracy who was involved.

17:44 But I, like you, also start with the evidence. When you believe there's a conspiracy, when you believe there's a cover up or something like that, you start with the facts, you start with the evidence. And the things to me that stood out as evidence that this was some kind of a plot or conspiracy had very little to do with foreign government and actually had to do with the forensics of the attack. Like you said, maybe the most damning thing is the bullet. If it's a 30-06 bullet caliber, this guy from relatively short range is being shot. You would expect that you would see a much more graphic video than what we saw. I watched your show about this. You've been, you shot hogs with this kind of caliber bullet. It goes right through them, one in one end, out the other. And this is a significant animal versus

18:32 being shot in the neck, which is of course a much smaller cavity, by such a large bullet from an even shorter range. Why did we not see, and you know, we don't want to be insensitive about it, but why did we not see a lot more blood? Why did we not see an exit wound? Where did the bullet go? Now initially- It's not just a big bullet, it's a super magnum. It's going 2,500, 2,600 or faster. At 200 yards, it's still at maximum velocity. So you're talking explosive when it hits. size, velocity, exactly, just none of the details are adding up. That caliber, that rifle, the velocity, the size, the range, but also then with the video we saw, it just doesn't really work. And people had questions about it. And to tell you the truth, I was skeptical because I'm not a ballistics expert and I think a lot of people aren't. And I was willing to entertain if the FBI had an explanation, I was willing to hear what that explanation was.

19:28 Well, then we get Andrew Colvitt who comes out last week and he says based on evidence apparently that he received from the attending physician from the surgeon. He says that he was authorized to say and it was shared with him that the bullet miraculously stopped because Charlie Kirk's bone density was so healthy and so strong that it stopped the bullet in its tracks and prevented other people from dying. And that's where you got to pump the brakes and say, wait a second. Is that really the word choice we want to go with? Imagine Bullock, it was... Oh, that's when I popped the brakes, Saturdays when I went, okay, now we've got... And then TBUSA is calling me, their spokesperson, saying, well, let me give you the full story. But yeah, this Man of Steel thing, that's when I was like, whoa.

20:14 Right, because initially I'm willing to believe and I think it's true that there are left wing nut jobs that want to kill people like Charlie Kirk. It happens. There was a shooter at a Catholic church in Minneapolis a few weeks ago. Another left wing person. A guy came to kill you this year and got killed by police an hour later. Exactly. And so this is a problem, Luigi Mangione, this is something going on in the country. I'm willing to believe if there's evidence that that is the that that's the explanation. But when they come in and say, man of steel, miracle, magic bullet, magic skeleton, that's where I got to say, hang on a second. Yeah, I know that doesn't make sense. So now I'm asking even more questions, actually. That's an answer that that raises more questions that actually it answers.

21:02 And the thing about this Andrew Colvin guy, and I don't know him personally, I've never met him, but Candace actually had a good point about this. A lot of people don't know, this is a PR guy. This is a public relations guy. That's what he does for Turning Point USA. That's actually what he did for a company called the Kairos Company. That's where he worked from 2014 to 2019 with Marissa Strait of Prager University. with one of these big reverends that's a Christian Zionist, that was a public relations firm. He represents himself as a fixer. He is a Christian Zionist pro-Israel fixer. And so if it's that guy, because I'll be super honest with you about how my thinking has been changing over time on this,

21:47 When he first said that, my first thought was, why would Charlie Kirk's producer and best friend, why would he lie? What would be in it for someone like him to lie or cover it up? If this Man of Steel, Superman thing, if that's a cover-up, why would someone so close to Kirk and friendly and working with him, why would he lie about it? you dig into his background and you find that this guy is a fixer. He's a PR guy for the Christian Zionists. He was actually there over Charlie Kirk's shoulder at the focus group after the SAS conference where Tucker spoke and Dave Smith debated Josh Hammer.

22:22 It was Colvitt, the producer, who was hanging behind Kirk and saying, I think we could all agree that we talk about Israel a whole lot less. I think we could all agree that we don't want to talk about that anymore. And so it's things like that that actually just have to be answered. And I will say I'm glad. Pash Patel, of course, came out a few days after that, and he listed all of these discrepancies. He talked about theories of different shooters and the bullet caliber and all these different things. It shows they know there's massive pressure. Exactly, and I like that. I actually like that. It's good that there's pressure. It's good that people are on top of this asking questions. And I like that Kash Patel was specific about those questions. He didn't say, we're gonna answer everything, there's more to come. He said, here are all of these specific questions we've been asked and we'll provide answers. And that just has to be forthcoming. We have to see the answers. Well, let me bring this up to you. Let me bring this up.

23:18 Where's the autopsy by law to murder you're supposed to do when I check the state law it's the same wall there It's everywhere and where's the bullet that was found in the neck. I mean now I'm That's the question. We need the bullet. Where is it? And we do need an autopsy. We need to know, and because people also have questions about how and where the bullet impacted the shockwave in his shirt. You know, we're getting all these kinds of ad hoc explanations for these things. We need the official story from the people that saw the body, from the people that performed the autopsy. And that's the only reason I know you said I was a little bit mean, but I do think there is this push

22:22 It was Colvitt, the producer, who was hanging behind Kirk and saying, I think we could all agree that we talk about Israel a whole lot less. I think we could all agree that we don't want to talk about that anymore. And so it's things like that that actually just have to be answered. And I will say I'm glad. Pash Patel, of course, came out a few days after that, and he listed all of these discrepancies. He talked about theories of different shooters and the bullet caliber and all these different things. It shows they know there's massive pressure. Exactly, and I like that. I actually like that. It's good that there's pressure. It's good that people are on top of this asking questions. And I like that Kash Patel was specific about those questions. He didn't say, we're gonna answer everything, there's more to come. He said, here are all of these specific questions we've been asked and we'll provide answers. And that just has to be forthcoming. We have to see the answers. Well, let me bring this up to you. Let me bring this up.

23:18 Where's the autopsy by law to murder you're supposed to do when I check the state law it's the same wall there It's everywhere and where's the bullet that was found in the neck. I mean now I'm That's the question. We need the bullet. Where is it? And we do need an autopsy. We need to know, and because people also have questions about how and where the bullet impacted the shockwave in his shirt. You know, we're getting all these kinds of ad hoc explanations for these things. We need the official story from the people that saw the body, from the people that performed the autopsy. And that's the only reason I know you said I was a little bit mean, but I do think there is this push

23:59 to quickly take the tragedy and transmute it into political action. And I'm not ready to move on yet because like I said, we're all being told this is what this means. Now this is what we need to do. It was the left and that's why we need to take these specific actions in response. I'm sitting here saying, whoa, whoa, whoa. Actually, we need to hold the phone now. We actually don't know exactly what's going on. We actually don't have all the answers on this. Before we're told what this means for us and what we need to do about it, let's stop and think what actually took place here and who's actually responsible. I agree with you. I think we need to see the autopsy. We need to see the bullet. We need to get the answers from the FBI. I have been told, I've heard from people that claim to be on the ground and I have some reason to believe them. They say that the reason that evidence may be withheld for the time being is they don't want to taint the jury pool. Because

24:52 When the spokesman came out last week, he said something very specific. He said in our country, the accused have fifth and sixth amendment rights to a speedy trial, jury their peers, etc. And so this is actually common. They're not gonna put out all the evidence if it's especially damning. because they don't in a very high profile, highly publicized case, they want to be able to pick a jury that's not biased and get a fair trial so they could get the guy convicted. So that could be a plausible explanation why they might be dragging their feet or slow walking some of the stuff. But as soon as they start to set that up and we get a jury and this is underway, all eyes need to be on the trial.

25:32 What actually happened? What evidence is the state going to bring? Can they even convict the guy? Will they have enough evidence? They seem to be confident. The FBI, the local authorities seem to be confident they could do that. But of course, until we get that trial, until the state presents all the evidence they have, not in the media, but in the jury, in a jury trial, we're just not gonna know. We can't have any confidence. So that's where I'm at with it. We gotta go to break. Back in just a few minutes, I wanna talk about the bigger effect of this assassination, the different political lay of the land. Then I want to shift gears into Trump's insane statements about Ukraine. Stay with us. I'm jacked up on the Meth Lane Blue. It's the best thing you guys have ever had. It clears the brain fog where you're actually able to focus more clearly. For me it's like a fog lifted, but it was like a veil lifted off, you know? Incredible. Best product that I've purchased so far. I started having seizures like a few years ago.

27:58 And Nick Fuentes is our guest until 3 p.m. Central in about an hour and 27 minutes from now. Then Harrison Smith hosts the War Room 3 to 6 p.m. Be sure to join us for that. I'll probably be closing some of them. There's so much news breaking. Nick, going back to this and then just in general, TPUSA, I don't have many peers that I can, you know, other than like Trump or a few other people, I'm not saying I'm a peer with him, but on a peer on this issue, where there's a horrible event and instantly I'm blamed. I mean, when that Democrat employee of tampon Tim up in Minnesota, Tim Walz, killed those government officials and their spouses and things, literally within one hour, the roommate's blaming me and Trump. So when it's a Democrat op like that,

28:57 We're instantly the targets. And so if there was another shooter and the guy was just a patsy who was set up and I think the evidence is starting to really build to that. I did a whole hour before he came on with a green beret and really smart guy about that. That's the consensus I'm getting from all these other Delta Force guys and people that are really smart and experts on this. Then we've got to ask who would kill Kirk. And clearly, you know, Israel does a lot of assassinations. He was having big fights with them. I can imagine they want to take it over and a lot of those interests are coming in now. I just couldn't say it day one without evidence. I'm still not saying Israel did it. But then the Democrats, I mean, he was one of the main movers getting all these young males to vote Republican. And then now he's gone and they're in those discords watching it. They could have piggybacked on that and some of their groups. And then how you instantly got blamed and when that didn't work, they pivoted over to Israel as a talking point. To me, that's the main suspect because

29:56 That's the group calling for violence, pushing violence. It was a leftist came to try to kill you at your house, died in a shootout, wouldn't even hit the news. People said it was fake. It was a local paper. I mean, when they come to my house, I don't make a big deal about it, but I mean, they knocked down Tucker Carlson's door. So you could say I'm prejudiced towards the fact, I mean, look at this today. You know, you've got a reported anti-fuck pro trans shooter up in Dallas so dummy shooting illegal aliens at the base and then supposedly kills himself. And then they've already released the, you know, the shells with the anti-ice stuff on it. Maybe that's a setup too. I just don't, just don't see that level of, of, of that much corruption will carry out this much, but maybe I'm wrong, but was Netanyahu behind all the other trans shooters? Was that, you know, so looking at this,

30:42 We have to start speculating now because it does look like a cover up. Definitely that was not a 30-06 round that did that from my view, this man of steel garbage. So you don't like to speculate, neither do I. But if we have to ask who had the greatest motive, who would the Grimms be? I think that when you ask who benefits from the killing of Charlie Kirk, I would actually put Israel towards the bottom. When you look at if there's a series of different people, the reason I say that is because Charlie Kirk, as we know, was pro-Israel until the day that he was killed. And this is why it's a little bit puzzling to me.

31:17 Like you said, I mean a lot of people are now calling me a shill. They're saying I pivoted. I got the call from Netanyahu. They intimidated me into silence. The reason I say that is because right up until he died, my critique of Charlie Kirk is that he was too pro-Israel. And Clearly, there was an evolution going on. I think there's an evolution for everybody. I think everybody had in common on our side, whether it's JD Vance, you, me, Tucker, Charlie, everybody was talking about how Israel is driving us into a war with Iran and that their conflict in Gaza is overkill. I think that was sort of the consensus.

31:55 And so the idea that they moved to take out Charlie Kirk because he, like everybody, was maybe having some second thoughts or maybe some doubts about very specific things. He wasn't anti-Jewish, he wasn't anti-Israel, he wasn't moving in that direction. He had doubts about specific things. To me, I find that very hard to believe. So in terms of who benefits, I think that Israel's maybe the least likely. And I would say that because Charlie Kirk might have been one of their few remaining true allies. I don't know that Israel would count Tucker Carlson or Candace Owens or you or me or so many people as better allies than him. I think he was pretty reliable and pretty solid. I think there is a credible angle, like you said, that who else might have wanted him dead? Well, people on the left. And I think that that was probably what motivated the

32:45 Ryan Ruth character who was just found guilty the other day. He was out there at Mar-a-Lago a year ago, as was Thomas Crooks who took the shot against Trump last year. There were people last year that said that there might have been an Israeli conspiracy when Trump was shot in the ear. I asked the same question. Why exactly would they want him taken out when he was taking money from Miriam Adelson, when he was promising at that time to go to war with Iran, among other things? Well, let me ask you this, and you keep going, you're trying to thought. This is a key point clearly synthetic immediate instant attack on you within hours That should tell us who was behind it or who'd piggyback to try to Who would want to who would want to blame you? I mean, how does that feel within hours? I've never had it this bad to literally be blamed everywhere that Bill Maher do it everybody else Why why would they target you immediately who would do that a and then be?

33:45 Who would target you and then push the story that you secretly work for Israel? I think a lot of that stuff was coming from the left, to tell you the truth. I mean, I saw a lot of these synthetic posts accusing me of covering up for Israel. It was coming from a lot of far left groups like the American Communist Party with Jackson Hinkle. It was all those types of accounts. And what would be their benefit in accusing someone like myself of covering up for Israel? It's maybe to divert attention away from the radical left wing theory. If the guy is a left winger, if the killer is a left winger, the left obviously wants to divert attention away from that. They want to deflect it. So what do they do? They blame the radical right. And then when it turns out it's not the radical right, well, then they say it's Israel and the radical rights covering up for Israel if they blame the left. Exactly. The bots are pushing us away from Soros and the left who have the main motive,

34:39 My gut, everything lined up, I'm not sure. But if it turns out there was help and it's starting to look like that, then it goes to the establishment left. I think so. And I would also say, though, at the same time, you know who else benefits from all this immensely? It is the GOP. It just is. And you saw it in this memorial on Sunday. This was my critique of it. The real beneficiary of this entire thing is how the GOP is going to get to spin it, and they're going to say that this constitutes a new great awakening. This is the revival of conservatism. I was gonna go there, I was gonna say that, and nobody said this yet, we're saying it, and I'm not saying this happened, but if you want to really war game stuff, it goes DNC, RNC,

33:45 Who would target you and then push the story that you secretly work for Israel? I think a lot of that stuff was coming from the left, to tell you the truth. I mean, I saw a lot of these synthetic posts accusing me of covering up for Israel. It was coming from a lot of far left groups like the American Communist Party with Jackson Hinkle. It was all those types of accounts. And what would be their benefit in accusing someone like myself of covering up for Israel? It's maybe to divert attention away from the radical left wing theory. If the guy is a left winger, if the killer is a left winger, the left obviously wants to divert attention away from that. They want to deflect it. So what do they do? They blame the radical right. And then when it turns out it's not the radical right, well, then they say it's Israel and the radical rights covering up for Israel if they blame the left. Exactly. The bots are pushing us away from Soros and the left who have the main motive,

34:39 My gut, everything lined up, I'm not sure. But if it turns out there was help and it's starting to look like that, then it goes to the establishment left. I think so. And I would also say, though, at the same time, you know who else benefits from all this immensely? It is the GOP. It just is. And you saw it in this memorial on Sunday. This was my critique of it. The real beneficiary of this entire thing is how the GOP is going to get to spin it, and they're going to say that this constitutes a new great awakening. This is the revival of conservatism. I was gonna go there, I was gonna say that, and nobody said this yet, we're saying it, and I'm not saying this happened, but if you want to really war game stuff, it goes DNC, RNC,

35:24 and then just chaos agents that want civil war, CCP, and then you've got Israel under that. I think that's apropos. And I think that because right after this assassination, we're now hearing that there's a declaration of war against the radical left NGOs. And on some level, I agree with some of it. I think that the people who celebrated his death, I think they should lose their jobs. But then Pam Bondi got on TV and said we need hate speech legislation. And those are two different things. And now all of a sudden they're talking about-. Now you're talking Israel, that's literally the ADLs.

36:05 And Pam Bondi is extremely pro-Israel. She comes from Florida and she worked with Ron DeSantis and all those guys. So, of course there is a tight overlap between the Israel lobby and the GOP. So you wonder, is the tail wagging the dog or in what direction is it coming from? But I almost wonder if it's some sort of GOP operation because again, who was Charlie Kirk? I don't necessarily think he was a leader in the GOP, He was an Israeli spy in the same vein as a Ben Shapiro. I think he was pro Israel, but I think he was pro Israel incidentally because he's a GOP advocate, let's say a GOP lieutenant. He was principally a party man for the GOP. And when the kind of ideology the GOP was against Israel's interest, he tended to defy Israel when

36:56 Israel's pushing us into war with Iran, he was chafing at the Israel lobby's interest. So clearly there's a difference between Kirk and Shapiro, as evidenced even by their final interview where Kirk was sort of asking him some tough questions. So if Kirk is like a party man, who is he? He's a GOP party man. He's a bag man. He manages money. People were saying he might be on a presidential ticket, maybe in 28, maybe in 32, maybe with Don Jr. He's obviously super powerful there. Is it possible that he was maybe taken out as maybe competition and then becomes a martyr to empower the people that took him out? Okay, well I haven't said this on air. I hinted it last week. I've heard that from very credible people. They're not sure, but they're said Democrats top, RNC next, Chi comms or some chaos group below that. If the story doesn't add up and now it doesn't. So let's talk about that.

37:53 You said we haven't talked since he was killed. We haven't talked on the phone the day it happened, and then in text a lot. Do you remember a few months ago I called you and I said, Nick, you need to be very careful because you're moving the needle so much politically that there's a lot of different forces in their calculations that are going to come after you. And also, who else did I say? I said, I said, you and Charlie Kirk. You remember that conversation? I do. I do. I remember well and you said that you said this is the NFL now you said and this is serious and you said they're coming for us. I mean, you basically predicted it. You don't get enough credit. You predict a lot of stuff on your show. It's off the show. It's the same deal. I was simply saying.

38:35 I've done this long term expose the overall systems so people can make their own decisions. Long game, you know, whatever. But I said, you and Charlie are the most prominent people. You got this battle, basically already took over his organization intellectually. And I said, because it's got 500 million in the bank, because the RNC is jealous of him, I didn't say specific, remember what I said, the RNC and Kirk. And I said, you got to worry about the Democrats And, but I said he's got to worry about the RNC. So it's funny when I'm just being behind the scenes, I'm always honest on air, but I don't want to like say things without all my proof behind the scenes. I'll just really say what I'm thinking and I'm not trying to say this, what you just said, but I just want people to know that there's that. And, and yeah. And so.

39:20 Anybody that criticizes us, we're actually on the field folks. Gladiators in war. People can sit there, not against them, another economy shot in your mom's basement. How you do better in all this, just understand we're risking our lives and I'm not bitching or whining, I'm not a victim. Just understand. We're in the arena. We're actual gladiators here. This is not for us. This isn't a game. This is life and death situation. And I just wanted to tell you, because gut level, gut level, looking at all of it, I said, Nick, and I never called you a drama queen, stuff like that. I just said, listen. You and Charlie Kirk, I just feel in the ether, both of you guys are at the very top of the future. They want to control that future. They're worried about your trajectory. I didn't say what your trajectory should be. I said, I don't know. I just said, you've got a lot of power. And I didn't realize how much power I had like 15, 16 years ago or 10 years ago. That's why I had the foundations and the agencies coming after me and trying to buy me off and all the rest of it.

40:12 And I didn't realize my reach then. So you tend to, and I know this, underestimate it. I'm just saying with great power comes great responsibility. And I'm not saying what you should do. I didn't tell you what you should do. I didn't say moderate anything. I just said, you need to understand you. I said, you're not just in the NFL now, you're on one of the main teams, a quarterback. So I'm just saying, you realize now the level you're at, right? I do well and obviously based on what happened to Kirk, I think everybody realizes how serious it is. That's when it got real for everybody, for you, me, everybody in this whole thing. Whatever is going on because it's a very confusing time and you're right. I mean, you called me up and you said like this, you said these people are gangsters, man. That's what you said. You said these people are gangsters. This is a dangerous game. You said you got a lot of power and like you said, it is about the future. So

41:02 you know, you were 100% on the money. And it's crazy you said that almost exactly like a week before it happened. You know, the timing was very prescient in that way. And obviously things are changing very rapidly. I said this on Twitter the other day. I said this is the eighth front in Israel's war. We're also in the middle of World War III. We're in this war with Ukraine. We're in this war in the Middle East, this multipolar moment. You've got the solvency crisis, the sovereign debt crisis with the United States. This is one of those world historical inflection points. Like in 1917, like in 1945, like in 1989, this is like an historical inflection point. And whenever that happens,

41:42 There's a lot of these forces that intervene to try to control the next phase, the next phase of history. And whenever that happens- I agree, but it's a mega turning. It's all three of those dates combined. It's 45 and 19, it's all of it combined in a mega spasm right now. I absolutely agree. I think you're right. It's maybe the biggest one yet. And whenever it's like an earthquake, it's literally tectonic plates shifting. And it's that destabilization, which is what causes the kinds of things you're seeing domestically, internationally, the whole thing is destabilizing. The whole thing is coming apart and people are trying to hang on for dear life. I think that's one of the reasons that makes it so confusing.

42:25 We're in kind of these days of lead now, Trump getting shot, CEOs getting shot, Charlie Kirk gets shot. That by itself should make your ass- People coming to your house to kill you, keep bringing that up. Don't you love how almost no one defended you when that guy came to kill you and then died in a shootout with police? Yeah, it's unbelievable. I mean, the way they covered that up, they covered it up the day it happened. The media reported it. They said Nick Fuentes claims, allegedly, claims it's on video. He got shot in my alley by the cops. He comes in, bang on your door with a gun. I'm going to kill you in a motorcycle helmet. He dies in a shootout with the cops behind your house and no one covered it.

43:06 No, well, no one covered and no one said anything. And, and you wonder even what was going on with that. Cause we never even got any answers and I'm glad you bring it up. I almost forget about it because it wasn't successful. You know, it wasn't a successful attempt. So then for that reason, it kind of fades into the distance. And he's banging on the door saying, Hey Nick, Hey Nick. And, and you're right. Nobody covered that at all. Yeah, and I appreciated that. You did. You're coming for me too, buddy. Yeah, we got to look out for each other. But it should be considered part of this trend because that is the disturbing trend line. And I feel like a lot of this stuff, they sort of count on it getting memory hold. Trump got shot. Then you had another guy come to Mar-a-Lago. Someone came to my house, Luigi Mangione. You also have all these school shootings.

43:59 You also have these school shootings in Wisconsin and Tennessee and the Catholic Church in Minneapolis. And all these are extremely strange. They're very online people. There was a school shooting the same day that Charlie Kirk was killed in Denver, Colorado. Some kid obsessed with school shooters, 16 years old, came to school, shot and killed two people. And no one even knows about that. We had two ICE facilities shot up in Texas last month. Exactly right, one today, one today. And they shot all illegal immigrants. And then they pull out the bullet casing and they wrote with it with magic marker, blue pen, they said anti-ICE.

44:35 Was those instructions from the FBI of what to engrave or did the guy write it himself? Oh, this is an anti-ice shooting. Let's mark it down in pen. This is an anti-ice false flag. So something weird is going on here and that's kind of the feeling I just can't shake. All the lies, the fake conspiracy theories, the real conspiracy theories, the violence, I just can't shake the feeling that something really strange is happening. And I don't even know that we're that we're even approaching understanding what it is. That's what kind of scares me. Something big and bad is about to happen and it's all about the old monetary system dying. It's all about all these points coming together in a crescendo right now.

45:18 That's right. It's the confluence of all of these different things. You're so on the money, no pun intended, with the monetary system, the multipolar moment, Ukraine war, simultaneous with the Israel fighting for power, this Trump government that's been thrust in there, something big is happening. And I agree with you, something big is coming. Like it's not hard to see. This is like when all the birds start flying away and the dogs start barking. It's like you see enough of this random violence. And rats start coming out of their holes and turtles start running to high ground. The worms are coming out of the ground. Yeah, it's it this is like running for the hills like and I'm not that guy. I mean we've known each other a long time. I've never been that guy. There's about two weeks before Charlie got killed. I said I can feel it. I can see it. I don't know. I just said they're coming to kill you. They're coming to kill Charlie Kirk. I said these are gangsters and I just I just out of the ether.

46:09 Got level, we got a gut level feeling, but it's real. I mean, there is a real, I do believe in that. There is an instinctual thing about this. I don't just call you up randomly. We might talk like once a month. I'm not like drama queening people. I don't just call up and say stuff. Did I ever call you before? We've been talking like nine years. Did I ever just call and say something like that before? No, never, never, never. It was, you know, like you said, this is something we're dialed in. And I told you, I said, you need to cancel your events. I'm not saying cut and run. I said, Nick, they're coming. You did and you were right. You were right. Something's coming. I'm with you and I'm worried about the next shoe to drop. You know, you see Charlie Kirk and take it out. Maybe not one big thing. It's a bunch of big things and they all feel bad. What are they? I think there's going to be more political violence. That's that's I mean, the most obvious thing is copycats. If this was real, if this was fake, it doesn't matter. I mean, it does matter, but it doesn't matter in the sense that other psychos are going to look at this on either side.

47:07 And they're going to be inscribing stuff in the bullets and people are going to be taking shots. And you could see it's becoming more frequent. We've been talking about this for like the last year and a half. You and me, every time we do a discussion, we say Luigi Mangione is a harbinger of things to come. There's going to be left wing violence, drone attacks, assassinations. They're going to try stuff. It's coming and it's increasing in frequency. It is by definition a crescendo because we're just getting it more at a quicker pace. And I think it is building towards maybe something big, maybe a big false flag. That's kind of- And you remember- Let me throw this at you. Let me go there, but let me throw this out before we get, get.

47:46 The Modesto plan, cause a race war, trigger all this to drive Trump from all these plans is the Trump admin doing step to pre-trigger it before to stop their uprising. I'm not saying that's the case, but 100% here that this lays the ground to now false flag a traditionally black college, which they closed saying supporters threatened. Or the shooting up as I've been saying of a bunch of migrants to then be blamed on Trump supporters and trigger the civil war. And then go to your point, sorry. Yeah, no, absolutely. They are priming the pump. I mean, we're sitting on a powder keg for that reason. After Charlie Kirk died, it's not all hunky dory. Everybody went to that memorial and said, oh, you know, we're choosing faith and forgiveness and all this kind of stuff. They don't realize

48:30 racially, ideologically, religiously, this is like a powder keg situation. And all it's gonna take is one nut job, one psycho, an agent provocateur. Like you said, is it gonna be an ICE thing? Is it gonna be a black white thing with the arena, Zarutska killing just a week before Charlie Kirk died? What exactly kind of shape is it going to take? On some level, it doesn't matter. It has the potential to trigger something extremely volatile. And the two things where I was gonna go with it is, In May, just before the Iran war started with Israel, you remember, the think tank came out and said it's our knee jerk response to call things a false flag. Then after the ice riots, Trump assembles this emergency response National Guard force in the East Coast and on the West Coast, a rapid deployment force in the event of riots.

49:22 You got this National Guard coming to city after city. It's like, it feels like the storm clouds are rolling in and maybe they're anticipating something that the general public is not, but I get a very bad- Didn't even attack you and others you have these big think tanks coming out tied to Israel saying we've got to pre demonize Anybody that says false flag when these big terror attacks come We've got to be ready to censor for the false flag remind me of the group because I'm having a scene all moment here I don't remember the name of it's an obscure group. It's an obscure cutout of it was related to the ADL. It's the same Yeah, yeah, well look that up right you got

50:09 Yeah, they were saying we gotta get ahead of the false flag narrative when the attacks come. And we were like, that's the pre-programming you and I said on the show two months ago, that's what's telling you it's coming. We gotta get ahead of false flags when the attacks happen. What you're telling us is what you're doing here. Exactly, yeah, they write in the report, well hey, if anybody says there's a false flag in two weeks, don't believe them. That's not real. It's like, okay, so- Well, they said we gotta have our censorship bots ready to suppress that. Right, right. So it's like a 100-mile laptop suppression. Like, you're going to suppress us saying it's a false flag ahead of it coming? You're telling us. Right, right. It's predictive programming in that way. So I don't like it. I don't like what they're saying in the think tanks. I don't like what law enforcement's been saying. There it is, the Institute for Strategic Dialogue. Stay there. Nick J. Fuentes on Rumble, on X. And where else should people find your show? It's weeknight Tuesday around 10 o'clock at night.

54:47 Ladies and gentlemen, they got a bunch of organic brainwash leftists out engaged in all sorts of crime and murder. That's a fact that's going on. But can you piggyback on top of these discords and six trainees saying he'll be dead tomorrow? And then, oh, see, we told you clearly they had them out there bare minimum as a cover story to piggyback and kill him. The question is who did it? 30 on six didn't do it. I don't think the I don't think the surgeons line that he was told that said. Told it goes through goes down bounces back up. They have the bullet. Where is it? There's not gonna be an autopsy They would have said there was an autopsy that right there is a cover-up when you study medical examiners This is a shorter segment Nick. I want to get into Russia and Ukraine. Oh you want to and Trump's

55:31 horrible statement yesterday and again I just call balls and strikes that's coming up I've been wanting to just get into general issues of the country, the world and things that are happening and how people can prepare themselves for all that's happening, the AI coming out but putting bookends on this If they don't release, which I believe that no autopsies was done, we've heard about it and the bullet, then we know there's a coverup. What do you see that doing? Because they're going to keep Kirk out there. He was super popular. The RNC is kind of coming in and taking over. And then this is not going to go away. This is going to turn into a whole new Epstein thing.

56:10 Yeah, I don't see people letting go. I think that people are gonna stay on top of this. And it's kind of curious because they are gonna have their cake and eat it too. The GOP is using Charlie Kirk's death with the memorial and everything else to justify their pre-existing agenda. I saw JD Vance jump in front of it. They did this big memorial. They're gonna use it in the midterm elections. They're gonna use it for the hate speech or whatever other sort of agenda they have. And at the same time, it seems that a significant portion of their base doesn't even believe the narrative. And thinks that Charlie Kirk was some sort of martyr for Israel, which of course, or rather a martyr against Israel, which of course Israel is deeply in bed with the GOP, which is exploiting the death. So it's a very weird kind of triangulation there. And it's weird how both of these things seem to be true at the same time. It's like they exist in superposition. Half the country believes, or half the right wing believes,

57:06 It was a left wing nut job and that's why we have to crush Antifa and arrest everybody and ban hate speech and ban Jimmy Kimmel. And the other half of the base says that he was a martyr going down for America first against Israel. And well, who would be involved in the cover up? It's Kash Patel. It's the Trump administration, which is now using it. So I wonder how this will reflect in the midterms. I wonder how this will express itself in GOP politics in the coming months, in the next couple of years. And I'm going to wait and I'm going to reserve complete judgment until we see the actual trial.

57:42 I wonder if after they pick the jury and they actually hold the trial with the accused, I wonder if we're going to get some answers. But I think that in the meantime, they need to reassure the public and answer some of the basic stuff. Who are these out-of-state license plates that were at the Tyler Robinson's house the day before? Where's the exit wound? Where's the bullet? What's going on with that? They need to start providing at least some of these basic answers Otherwise, I don't know how they're ever gonna recover. I don't know how anyone can trust this administration. And not for nothing, but you pointed out with Epstein. It is very interesting how this is the same Department of Justice that put out that memo saying there's no Epstein Black Book. There's no client list, there's nothing to see there. This is the same DOJ, this is the same FBI that we're supposed to say now they're gonna tell us the truth 100%. They don't engage in cover-ups. They just got done covering up the previous cover-up with this cover-up. So I

58:39 I don't know where we go from here, but I think people need to be very skeptical of what we see coming out of this Trump government in the next few months, especially in the name of Charlie Kirk, because I don't trust him one bit. That's why I see it coming in the next few months. Back in 60 seconds with Nick Fuentes. Stay with us and share the live feeds from Rumble at the Alex Jones Channel. Well, one of the best parts of seeing the corporate media establishment that's been irrelevant for many years totally collapsing on itself. and to see censorship fails, we get to see all of the amazing minds and ideas. And some of it I disagree with, and a lot of it I agree with, Nick. But the point is, this is the real animating contest of liberty. This is what happens when the stagnation gets shut down and you just get a chance for free thought to happen. It is exciting and people resonate with it. Now, Nick, let's talk about this. You're, I would say, generally black-pilled. You can disagree with that.

59:37 I look at things and say, on the economy, on the border, and previously with war trying to stop it, and standing up to the UN, getting out of the carbon taxes, RFK Jr., going after all the poison shots, the Tylenol, I mean they're banning the stuff, it's amazing. And I'm on cloud nine saying, oh, you black pill people, you know, you're full of crap. And I was thinking to you and I said, I'm going to tear into Fuentes tomorrow and say, look how you sit there and you bitch at you playing about the problems, but you're not cheerleading enough for the good. Would you rather Kamala in there? And then the last hour of the show, they come in and they go, there's clips of Trump. Here's what he said.

1:00:18 And, oh, Ukraine can win and you can get all your territory back and this is going to be great and we're going to get all the weapons and to, you know, NATO doing a 180. And I was like, this is terrible. And then I didn't read his true social. I just saw it and saw the top because it said what the news said. So that, oh, I was, I wasn't lazy. I was busy. I didn't read the whole thing. There it is on screen. He goes, oh, you're going to win. It's great. Russia's going to collapse. NATO needs to move in, which is Putin's red line. And who knows, you'll probably take over Russia. When you read that quote about maybe even more go further than that. Zelensky has said we're going to go into Moscow. The head of the EU has said, their economic ministers, it's a 20-30 year war. It'll be conventional. It'll collapse Russia if it takes 20-30 years and then we'll divide it up in five parts.

1:01:10 That's the declaration of war on Russia and NATO. We put the maps up since 91 moving all the way around them, moving hypersonic missiles up at their borders, firing them in. They can be nuclear-tipped at any minute. That's what Putin said. If you fire five of them at a time, we won't nuke you. But we see hundreds of major aeronautics. If we believe it's a nuclear sneak attack, we're going to hit you. So the threat escalation ladder for those that don't study the Rand Corporation and Pentagon war games and others, this is way more dangerous than the Cuban Missile Crisis, previously seen by experts as the worst, most dangerous point, minutes to midnight. We're now 30 seconds to midnight. Even the International Atomic, you know, Scientist Group says this is the closest ever. I don't just believe them. I am an expert. I'm into this since I was a kid. I mean, I had family involved in nuclear weapons and forward and rear and I grew up learning about it.

1:01:58 And so, my dad's uncle ran Nike missile batteries in Turkey and that's why the Russians put medium-range ballistic missiles into Cuba. And that got declassified about 20 years ago. I'm like six, seven years old and I'm sitting there listening to Pat Lynn around the table while they're playing dominoes, drinking whiskey at midnight, talking about, you know, this is a secret, but I, you know, he was on record, he was a Nike missile instructor and did all that. So I, I've set knee-high to grasshopper on this. This is so close, ladies and gentlemen. And you read this from Trump, this is sickening.

1:02:38 And I understand it's just art of the deal and Russia knows NATO's not gonna stop, so Russia's winning, got all these cities and towns. They don't want the whole thing, they want a buffer zone. So, but now NATO wants to go in, now Trump's backing NATO with a quarter million man and woman army, conscriptions being brought back, including women. I mean, this... This doesn't smell of Armageddon. This is Armageddon. Remember two years ago, Biden, we can't send an F-16 to Abrams. That goes up the escalation ladder to World War III. We're way past that now. So we're about to see a new Operation Spiderweb 4,000 miles into Russia blowing up their bombers? I mean, this is not flirting.

1:03:16 This is asking for nuclear war, Nick. So, literally, I was gonna finally, I'll really, you know, people want to fight and look good and I think Nick's wrong and I was like, I was like, I was like, oh, this is a celebration and damn it, look what we're doing and all that good Trump's doing doesn't matter if he acts like this. What the hell is this, Nick? It's unbelievable. He actually said they're going to retake all the territory, which is a complete reversal. I mean, to your credit, it was defensible, I think, maybe right up until the middle of August when Trump and Putin had that meeting in Alaska. And it seemed that

1:03:55 There might have been some possibility of a peace agreement or a ceasefire or something like that. And at that meeting in August, Trump said Ukraine may have to give up some territory like it looked like. And by the way, that was their position this entire year. The entire year for the past nine months of the Trump administration, they were trying to compel Ukraine and Europe to give up territorial concessions. In other words, to freeze the battle line, let Russia have the Donbass, let them have Zaporizhzhia, let them have Kharkiv, and we were just gonna call it quits and say stop the killing. That was the position of the State Department, that was the position of the White House, and now- And I'm not criticizing Trump, he's cutting off the weapons, he's making them do a deal, but now he just blew all that up.

1:04:42 It's a complete reversal. It's a complete 180 and now he's saying the exact opposite of what he's been saying the whole year Which is gone five months ago publicly spankings Alinsky in the Oval Office, too I'm sorry giving a blowjob on television Yeah, people forget about that. But I mean, he did literally drag Zelensky in there. Wow, thanks for dressing up. I have all the cards, how dare you? And now he has one meeting with him at the General Assembly the other day and says, we're gonna help you get back all the territory. How is that gonna happen? Ukraine has no soldiers. They can't get people to show up. You got 100,000 deserters. The front line is like Swiss cheese. They have

1:05:24 drones and maybe in some places two or three people defending miles and miles of the front line. And they're saying now they're gonna fight back for every inch, every square mile of Russian territory. How's that even gonna happen? And what went under the radar, by the way, not only did Trump say, excuse me, that we're gonna take back all the territory and we're gonna push Russia back. But he also said in the press conference that NATO countries should shoot down Russian jets. Did you catch that? There's been these alleged violations of Polish and Estonian airspace by what they say are Russian drones and by Russian jets.

1:06:02 And so there's been this invocation of Article 4 of NATO, where they have this consultation about the security threat. They say that there were drones coming into Poland. We didn't know if they're decoys, were they launched from Ukraine, Belarus, or what even are they? And Estonia then they said- submarine nuke launched test for the Russians. US Navy carried out four missile tests, unarmed Trident II D5LE missiles that carry hydrogen bombs, launched from nuclear capable Ohio class sub off the east coast of Florida, estimated range 8,500 kilometers. This is bad. And this is after they parked two submarines on either side of the Russian coast when they're threatening nuclear war last month. It's horrible and I think

1:06:48 This administration, the deep state, they want a hot war with Russia. That's obviously where this is going. They recognize that Russia is winning. Russia is unstoppable. They're going to break the Ukrainian line. That is inevitable because Ukraine just doesn't have the manpower. So that's the bad feeling first and foremost we're feeling. It's hiding in plain view. We are barreling into total war. We're barreling into a hot war with Russia where the United States and NATO are shooting at the Russians cuz they know that's the only way to stop them. And what does that look like? This is gonna be the first great power conflict, nuclear conflict between nuclear armed states since the invention of nuclear weapons. I don't think anyone has any idea how or where this is gonna go or how quickly. And of course, this is happening simultaneously with

1:07:35 every other war that we're getting into. Regime change in Venezuela, regime change in Iran, now this. So we were promised no new wars. That was the whole premise last year. We were promised that the Ukraine war was an anomaly because of Biden's mental health and that it was the people around him, the State Department, the National Endowment for Democracy pushing this stuff. Now it seems like Trump is literally just picking up where Biden left off. This is carrying on and it's maybe even worse. What do you think the change was? I think that Trump legitimately thought that he could bring the war to an end.

1:08:17 And I think maybe on some level, the State Department welcomed Trump in because it let them change their demands. Because under the Biden administration, they said, we're gonna take back everything, Russia's a war criminal, etc. And I think they let Trump come in because Trump's message was more conciliatory. Trump said, well, we'll let you keep what you have, let's just stop the war. And so it was a different appeal and different demands. And Putin was not going for that because Putin doesn't trust us. He knows that the second there's a ceasefire, we're just going to load up Ukraine with weapons. They're going to fortify the front line and the war is going to start again. So Putin wasn't going for it. I think now they realize

1:08:58 There's just no way that Russia's gonna stop. The Ukraine can't stop them. They won't agree to stop. No, you're exactly right, because Russia knows it's all about NATO. And now Trump said, yeah, NATO should come in and basically take over. That's the red line. So Russia's not blinking. And so now I guess Trump says, hey, he said good luck, though. Like, you're gonna take over Russia. Maybe it's sarcasm. Yeah, Zelensky, you're really great. You're gonna win. We'll sell you weapons. But goodbye, have fun in your war. Then we should leave NATO so we don't get nuked in this. Right, and I don't like the glibness. Good law, that's sort of the problem. We don't even really know where he stands on this. We're not actually getting, say what you will about the Biden administration. We knew the white paper. We knew the official policy of the US government.

1:09:47 to an extent you can say that what Trump is doing is gunboat diplomacy, like you said, art of the deal, it's all negotiating. They're playing games of nuclear war. I don't like that. It's one thing when you're doing brinksmanship with North Korea. It's a totally different thing when you're doing whatever this is with Russia. So I don't know, but what- You know, they got 50 submarines off our coast. By the way, when Trump said, I've sent two, we got like 30 subs off their coast, maybe more. But yeah, the point is he told them, I got subs ready to nuke you. The subs are all with the triggers off, aiming at each other forever. I mean, it's just, it's insane. And then you got Lindsey Graham literally having orgasms on TV that now we're about to bomb Russia. Now we're giving the heavy weapons to them. We'll get to that in a moment. I mean, this is cuckoo town.

1:10:31 It is and this is just not what anybody voted for. I of course didn't vote for Trump. I didn't vote for this because I sort of saw this coming but look the people that did vote for Trump. Well you predicted he'd do the Iran thing but did you think he'd do this on Russia? I didn't. I know not not to this extent. I said in December, I said, I think people are going to be surprised that Trump will have to escalate before even attempting to deescalate. I said there's no way Trump is going to accept a loss right out of the gate. But I had no idea they were going to push it this far. This is more extreme than Biden. And it's It's deja vu all over again because you remember in the first term, Obama really started this with Euromaidan in 2014 and they supported Ukraine against the secession, the Donbass War, before Russia got directly involved or officially involved. When Trump got in in the first term, he was sending Ukraine lethal aid. He was arming Ukraine and Ukraine was buying drugs.

1:11:27 And they were getting actual weapons from America. He sent him tens of thousands of thousands of tens of thousands of low tech thousands of anti-tank and anti-aircraft missiles. Exactly. So that he escalated from Obama in the first term and now he's escalating from Biden in the second term. Yeah, nobody voted for nuclear war. Nobody voted for war with Russia. And this was maybe like one of the big things, if not the biggest thing next to immigration, why we needed Trump in some sense. I know there were, it was very contentious whether to support Trump or not for me on my show.

1:12:04 I would say at the minimum, the two reasons that you would make the case to vote for him that were undeniable were the war in Ukraine and immigration. And there's maybe an argument to be made about immigration, but this is just a catastrophe of epic proportions. Let's expand on that. I think you nailed it. That's what I've been thinking. Let's just put a clear touch to this. Trump literally thought he could end this. He thought Russia would make a deal. Russia knows it's winning. Plus, they don't trust NATO. There's a bunch of double dealing. And so he will not feel like he's lost. So if Russia won't do the deal he wants, then he's going to give Europe what they want in the green light for war, all so he can be the King Kong gorilla. And that is stupid.

1:12:52 It is stupid, it's reckless. It's reckless and it's dangerous and we didn't vote for this. And he said last year, I'm gonna have it solved in 24 hours. That was the promise. He said, I'll have it solved before I even get inaugurated, between the election and the inauguration. And you're exactly right. He came in thinking that it was gonna be art of the deal. When Obama said, what magic wand do you have? Trump thought he was gonna wave the wand, the war would be over. And on some level, There is an element of ego in this. I think you kind of said that in what you just said a moment ago. Trump knows that if he cut the deal that Putin is willing to make, then this is going to be a loss. This is gonna be called out on the ledger as a loss for America, as a loss for Trump. And I think there's something about him, he's unwilling to accept that. Because what you would do if you wanted to end the war is cut the aid to Ukraine. Ukraine can't fight this war alone, and Europe can't fight the war on behalf of Ukraine.

1:13:53 Exactly. Pull us out because Ukraine knows and Europe knows too, they can only play these games when they can count on America to come in and bail them out. Europe and Ukraine combined cannot fight Russia. So all this big talk, all of them assembling at the White House and demanding that Trump gives security guarantees, that is with the expectation that we will bail them out if shit hits the fan, you know, if things got out of control. So if you want to attend the war, you cut off Ukraine, you pull out of NATO. Good luck. You know, that's good luck. And then Ukraine is forced to deal on Russia's terms. Then they have to agree to give up what they've lost. Then they have to agree to whatever Russia demands and you get an end to the war. But Trump doesn't want to call it a loss. So for people that aren't that bright, most of us are, but I want to explain something. War is the most studied thing there is in history, okay? Maybe other than medicine.

1:14:45 There's a threat escalation ladder. The Chinese study it, the Russians, the French, the US, all their war games are the same. Now they have AI. This all leads to nuclear war if people keep escalating and don't make a deal with all these weapons. Lindsey Graham knows that and now says we're going to total war and starts biting his lip like he's having an orgasm. This is satanic. This is the ghost of John McCain. This is crazy. It's not part of the deal. You can do that in business. War is when business is broken down and all the other means have failed. And so, I mean, I'm ready to get on an airplane. I could meet with Trump if I wanted to, but not if he hears I want to disagree. If he wants to pat me on the head, I can go have dinner with him. But I mean, I'm ready to go bullhorn the White House over this. I mean, this is insane. And I love all the good stuff he's doing, but if we have a nuclear war, none of that matters. Here's Lindsey Graham literally having orgasms on television as he prepares to start Armageddon.

1:15:39 Trump 2028. I hope this never ends when he asks what should you do if a Russian jet flies into your country? Shoot it down. He's tried to go out of his way to get Putin to the table. We don't want to humiliate Russia. We just want to end the war. And to our friends in Russia, here's what Trump did today. He told NATO, I'll sell you all the weapons you want. You can provide them to Ukraine. And as to Ukraine, you can use them any way you want. So to the Russian military, you're going to be up against the high end American weapons that will be sold to NATO for the benefit of Ukraine. And this war is coming to your backyard here with no limitations like Biden.

1:16:24 So, four years ago, before the escalation happened, the official war was already happening, Putin said, if you sell long-range heavy weapons, any country selling them will be seen as an enemy, will be targeted, which is legitimate. I mean, if Russia was selling Mexico 2,000 pound hypersonic cruise missiles, we would blame Russia. So, this is Graham literally going, we're going to war with Russia, that we're going to cross the red line, biting his lip. What do you say to that, Nick Fuentes? That is a literal demon right there. It is, it's satanic. How else could you watch that clip and think anything else? This is obviously some kind of blackmailed Manchurian candidate for the deep state. That's what he has always been. That's what John McCain was. That's what a lot of these people are. He's on television. And even the way he says it, I hope this never ends. Hope what never ends? The killing, the bloodshed, thousands of people dying every day. And if it never ends- Remember he said it's the perfect war. Ukrainians die and we just make money.

1:17:26 It gives echoes of Hillary Clinton. It's kind of like the same maniacal cackling, you know, he came, we came, we saw he died, ha ha, you know, what difference does it make? It's like the same vibes, like these people worship death and destruction, they worship annihilation. And this goes on forever, where do you think it's gonna go? It doesn't, like you said, with the escalation ladder, it doesn't continue at this at a low boil forever, at a kind of a contained low boil conflict forever. Eventually, it does escalate. Ukraine unleashes attacks on Russian soil like they did in Operation Spiderweb, attacking strategic aircraft. Then what do you think Russia does? Well, they're gonna start to attack the people providing the weapons for Ukraine and then what do we do? Shoot down- And by the way, if Putin doesn't do that, all the analysts agree, the hardliners will remove him.

1:18:13 Right, right, we'll get something worse. So for all these fantasies about removing Putin from power or waiting for him to die or toppling his regime, what do you think you're gonna get next? You're gonna get somebody far worse and far more extreme. That's almost always the case anywhere, any conflict you're talking about. So, you know, we want this actually to stop immediately as opposed to go on forever. And by the way, Gallup has gone and done internal polls in Russia, very accurate. This war had like 82% approval, it's over 90. The Russians want war now, they're pissed off. And they love Putin. They approve of the war and they love Putin. They see this as an existential battle, which it is. It is an existential battle and it is a battle for their sovereignty. Imagine if we were totally encircled by a multinational force. Americans would be screaming for fighting.

1:19:02 Well, and that just that kind of analogy, it just shows you how ridiculous the whole thing is. Ukraine shares a border with Russia. We want to be doing military exercises on their border. We want to deprive them of their ports. What happens if Russia takes over Guantanamo Bay in Mexico? Would we allow that? Would we allow Russian long range missiles in Mexico City? Obviously not. And yet this is literally we're fighting for nuclear war for our right to do that. And I think that there's just no reason for it. I mean, we're clearly in an inflection point. There is this transition. So how do I put pressure on Trump? Is he just doing art of the deal stuff or is he compromised?

1:19:45 I believe he is still doing art of the deal on some level. I think it's his own sick way because you understand that Trump, he really just has these two modes, which is conciliatory and then the maximalist demands. So in his juvenile mind, in this kind of art of the deal mind, he's saying, Okay, well, Putin, we rolled out the red carpet. We showed you Mr. Nice Guy. We talked about comprehensive cooperation on other matters like the Arctic or whatever. You don't want to play ball. Okay, fine. Now we'll shoot down jets. Now we'll put extraordinary pressure on you. Now we're going to get behind Europe and Ukraine. I guess we have to wait and see is, is there going to be a policy change?

1:20:26 Is there gonna be anything meaningful? Cuz he backed down from putting these extreme sanctions on India for buying Russian oil. We have to see if there's actually going to be any kind of meaningful change in policy. Because it could be all talk. Trump is all talk. He always chickens out with China, with terrorists, with the National Guard in Chicago. I mean, you name it, everything that he threatens- But you can't, exactly, but he's chickening out on the dumbass commie mayor. And the Democrat governor, this is the biggest nuclear power and the Russians are taking this seriously. You know they're having the same discussions, but you just, you don't play around with this. It's very reckless. And I will say it, those statements by Trump were incompetent. And it's my life and our planet's life. So Trump better reverse this right now or I'm gonna start going on the war path.

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1:23:22 I want to put bookends on this sleepwalking into thermal nuclear hellfire and then move into some other issues. Nick Fuentes, amazing interview today, very thought provoking. I appreciate him being here. Find everything at Nick J. Fuentes on Rumble and more there. There's a normalcy bias in people that don't study history. You can learn through experience, instruction or revelation. The best way is obviously revelation. But the most common obviously would be experience. People don't tend to listen to instruction as much as they listen to actually, you know, don't stick your finger in a light socket or whatever. But there's a normalcy bias that everything's fine, everything's just gonna go on the way it's gone. When you study 90% of people not being self-sufficient, being urban, if there's a collapse, it's World War Z. It's not like the Great Depression, it's a thousand times worse. I mean, just all the Pentagon studies are dead on.

1:24:16 Cannibalism within five, six days, total collapse in 15. You think army ants can eat the jungle, you know, in Brazil down to nothing? This will make army ants look like a walk in the park. You got that, you got the globalist trying to collapse stuff, believing they can manage a collapse for control, even more insane. That's being repudiated by Trump, that's good. In real action, not just rhetoric. Then you got them flirting with nuclear war. Everybody's like, oh, there'll never be a nuclear war because there hasn't been a nuclear war. But then all the real studies, and I've done the research, I know they're right. We are so close, so people better pray. And everybody being victims and bitching and husbands and wives fighting and all this stupid crap is going to evaporate instantly and this stuff kicks off.

1:25:08 And it goes from bad to worse. You got Trump basically taking over the Federal Reserve. That's a huge victory. I mean, it's so paradoxical. But the nuclear war card or just say full conventional war with Russia, which they believe they'll never go to nukes. They're gonna win that. The Chai Koms are involved. 100,000 extra North Koreans just came in. This is a new world war. We're in a new world war. And it's hard to cover any other issue when this is happening and I don't just do issues for viewers, but there's a paradox. I cover nothing but important stuff, but sometimes I'll cover stuff that isn't as important, but it's because you know what you want, just so I at the end can say something important about stopping nuclear war. You understand? So I don't know how we get people

1:25:50 that don't understand how much danger we're in and how the globalists believe they can get rid of the population and emerge with all this AI after this cataclysm, this cleansing. That's really their plan. It's not just in Dr. Strangelove. There was a Pentagon plan with Curtis LeMay and Ella Lembdenster that was declassified later. Kubrick was warned about it, made a movie about it. They investigated him, how he knew. That was basically a documentary. So those crazies were the ones that trained the neocons today. And Israel's got a Sam Shinobson too. So they don't just want mutually assured destruction to stop war, they want destruction. Deng Xiaoping said 30 years ago, we're the only country in the world that wants a nuclear war. Our problem is too big a population. So China has said in official doctrine, we want a nuclear war because we wanna get rid of our population.

1:26:47 This is very complex and people that don't study it, I talk to them and they're like, vegetables? I'm not on a power trip, I know all this, you don't? I am upset that people don't understand this, Nick. So in closing on that point, I hit some other stuff. on the First Amendment, why is that important? Well, if we don't have that, we can't stop these wars. At least when Bondi floated ADL banning of the First Amendment last week, they reversed in five hours because at least we can move the needle with Trump, which is something I see as positive. So we'll hit that in a moment. But I'm ranting, just put a bookend on it. Well, the sad thing is I don't think there's too much that anybody can do. I think that these are forces beyond our control, powerful forces. The administration knows there's no appetite for this. They know what they promised. They know they said no new wars and we'll end the war in Ukraine in 24 hours. They know it's unpopular.

1:27:41 At this point, it is just these reciprocal escalations, reciprocal actions were sort of trapped. When they talk about the inevitable conflict between China and America, they compare it to the Thucydides trap, that's the model they use. It's called the trap because it's sort of unavoidable. It's this like we're between a rock and a hard place here, and it's impossible to navigate. So I think we just have to on some level us ordinary people, regular people have to pray for a peaceful solution because I think it's a lot more likely it's gonna end in war than that it's going to end peacefully. So I'm disappointed but it goes to show

1:28:19 When it comes to the GOP, the Trump administration, earlier you characterized me as blackmailed. I wouldn't say I'm blackmailed as much as I am so cynical of any offering from the major parties. I'm cynical and I am extremely skeptical of the offerings from the Democrats, equally the Republicans. They say things, they promise things, they never do them, never ever. And they said that they would end this war, that didn't pass the smell test, it's not coming to fruition. And that's why I say on some level, the only vote that we can exercise is a rejection.

1:28:57 You think that we have choice, Republican or Democrat, right or left. We get the same thing no matter what. We vote for the war party, the deep state no matter what. I think the only vote is a non participation or rejection. That's kind of been what I've been on for the longest time. In retrospect, we almost did everything right. Trump ran in 16 as the anti-war candidate, non-intervention. You had him on your show. I volunteered for his campaign. We believed in it. And on the other side of a decade since that has happened, we've only gotten more entrenched, more regime change, more war. The Middle East is blown up. We're going back in. We're at war with Russia. It just goes to show.

1:29:38 Even what is presented as a radical outsider and someone who's truly against the status quo gets rapidly assimilated and accepts the status quo and carries it on even further. That's why I say it's almost a repudiation of the system. I'm always calling for a kind of a more radical break. from the past, because everything short of that radical break seems to always just tend towards the same direction, which is nuclear war. So it's terrifying and people need to realize this is reality. I like what you said that it's the most important thing in the world and maybe people are less interested. I don't think people realize the normalcy bias is so real too.

1:30:17 People have never seen nuclear war in their lifetimes. People have only seen the good times. Even the wars that we're in, they're not total wars. They're not full wartime mobilization. They think it's always gonna be that way on some level. They expect it will always be like that. There's no reason to believe that's the case when you really look at the facts. So this is a real threat. We are really in danger here. We are in peril and I don't know what's- During a big turning and this is a mega turning so you're smart you're entertaining You're funny, but people really listen to you because you're pressing and you've made a lot of predictions that have come true Basically all of them I have to I don't sit on a power trip But the reason the bad guys want us off the air they've said this is because we can change narratives I want to get the public to understand this they can realize their power and agency to change this together because I legitimately

1:29:38 Even what is presented as a radical outsider and someone who's truly against the status quo gets rapidly assimilated and accepts the status quo and carries it on even further. That's why I say it's almost a repudiation of the system. I'm always calling for a kind of a more radical break. from the past, because everything short of that radical break seems to always just tend towards the same direction, which is nuclear war. So it's terrifying and people need to realize this is reality. I like what you said that it's the most important thing in the world and maybe people are less interested. I don't think people realize the normalcy bias is so real too.

1:30:17 People have never seen nuclear war in their lifetimes. People have only seen the good times. Even the wars that we're in, they're not total wars. They're not full wartime mobilization. They think it's always gonna be that way on some level. They expect it will always be like that. There's no reason to believe that's the case when you really look at the facts. So this is a real threat. We are really in danger here. We are in peril and I don't know what's- During a big turning and this is a mega turning so you're smart you're entertaining You're funny, but people really listen to you because you're pressing and you've made a lot of predictions that have come true Basically all of them I have to I don't sit on a power trip But the reason the bad guys want us off the air they've said this is because we can change narratives I want to get the public to understand this they can realize their power and agency to change this together because I legitimately

1:31:08 And all the war games show it, it's not just me, it's the top war gaming private companies and government admit this. But this is a psychology of people like Lindsey Graham and others, they're the worst example of it, the mini me of John McCain. They all get together with their own normalcy bias and they're on a power trip with all these weapons and stuff. And they've talked about, they've got bunkers and they'll reemerge and all the rest of it. It's the same as globalists want to crash the economy for control of the population. Now they realize, oh, we'll never get away with it. Let's not do it now It's a bunch of wimps because the real soldiers I know they're really smart people They're all trying to stop this high level low level mid-level, but it literally is the

1:31:53 People like Lindsey Graham that are demonically possessed that get off on flirting with this and they need to be restrained We Russia didn't start this Russia's not perfect And so I just I just don't know how to explain to people that think well, I don't want a nuclear war So there isn't anyone. Well, you're not you're not Lindsey Graham. God knows what's on his hard drive I mean, these are really sick people and when you're that sick, the final degeneracy is is total war and That's right, that's absolutely right. And what we want out of this is just a negotiated settlement. Like you said, it is a great turning, a mega turning. The world is going through a convulsion and rightfully so. When Putin talks about the war, he talks about root causes. That's always the phrase that crops up. That's the rhetoric they're using

1:32:42 And what does he mean when he says root causes of the conflict? It means there's a real disagreement here between Russia and the United States. It's being fought out and battled over. And he's publicly been starting it. Root cause is you started it, bitch. And what is this thing about attacking Russia, Napoleon, Hitler, all of them? Why do they do it? It might be there's something perennial there, you know, and I tend not to go in that direction, the eschatology stuff. But when you think about the end times prophecy and you think about these major world powers that are going to come together for a war, who knows? Maybe there is something animating that because, you know, it's been variously described in different prophecies that Napoleon and Hitler are two antichrists.

1:33:26 That's sort of interesting. They both made that move and they say there might be a third anti-Kreisler invade Russia again. Of course, Russia is doing this in many ways. Their geopolitical thinking, their geo strategic thinking, it proceeds from those invasions. Why can NATO not control Ukraine? Because that is the superhighway on which Western Europe has invaded Russia. 25% of Russians killed in World War II. I mean, imagine that race memory. Right. Well, and that's imminent for them that that was in the last century that 10 million people perished in that war We can't even fathom something like that The last time we had a loss of that magnitude was the Civil War and in terms of absolute numbers It didn't even approach what happened in Russia and World War two So this is what informs their thinking and the Nazis wrote letters and intelligence reports reclassified They'd fought a bunch of people once they started fighting the Russians and the Germans were tough. They were like these people are scary so

1:34:24 They're brutal, they're absolutely brutal and they're fighters and the Russian spirit is one of sacrifice. We don't even understand the animal we're dealing with here. When you look at Dostoevsky, when you look at the Russian writers, the spirit of the Russian nation, it's literally suffering. That's what communism was. It is self-sacrificial suffering. And so the idea that the United States, with all of the decadence that we have, that we're gonna come in and fight for their borderland, their hinterland, against these brutal people? When they fought the Muslims and the Huns for a thousand years. If they fought him 20 years ago, the Chechens and the brutality is just unbelievable over there. They're brutal people. And on some level, it's, there's got to be a requiem for what Trump promised 10 years ago. Don't you miss the days when Trump said, what if Russia could be our friend?

1:35:15 that we were talking about a comprehensive cooperation with Russia on various matters. There's another timeline where maybe that was fleshed out, but it just never happened. Now we're staring down the barrel of the gun and why? Just let them have Ukraine. And I'm not pro-Russia, I'm pro-America, but it's clear Russia is re-emerging. after the fall of the Soviet Union.

1:35:57 We have Jim Jordan yesterday, due to our oversight efforts, Google commits to offer all creators previously kicked off YouTube, to the political speech violations to return to their platform. But that's not all. We have the Alphabet Letter, that's the parent company, Eric Schmidt, saying, yeah, we're gonna stop. So I've been a little busy, but I told you during the break, you should go try to relaunch your channel. And I'm doing it today. I'm gonna get there with my driver's license, all of it. And I'm gonna try to relaunch the Alan Show channel today. And the crew's like, well, let's worry about the algorithm. We're not gonna get on there. I predict they're gonna block it, which is fine. Then I'll get it to Jim Jordan, who I can call on the phone, leave it right there. This is just a part of investigation. And we're gonna force their hand on this. But this does show some of the good stuff coming out of Trump, other than trying to start a nuclear war. What do you make of that?

1:36:48 Well, I'm skeptical of it like you are because then they came out actually, I don't know if it was today or yesterday and YouTube said it's a pilot program. I don't know if this is brand new. I think it just came out this- We're gonna let them all back, but it's a pilot program. Yes, so I'm deeply skeptical and you know that could mean one of two things. It might mean that they will do more later. That's what a pilot program is. They'll see how it goes. Maybe they'll bring on more people or it could mean that it's like a token concession and it's not actually what they're saying. Big, big creators, big talk show host. I'll stop there. They call them up and say, oh, we hear Evan Alex on.

1:37:26 The producers all talked to him, they're all tattletales. Better not do that, we're gonna demonetize you. So that's what goes on. But it's not like, oh, I went back on YouTube. But clearly, will you, will you, because I'm not trying to hog the space here. It's a smart, not a stunt, it's a show. Let's commit, you and I both today, let's go try to log on. Let's try to relaunch the Nick J. Fuentes Show, America first. Let's try to relaunch Alex Jones Live. Let's do it when we get off here in 10 minutes. Let's do it. Absolutely. I'm game. Yeah. Let's stress test it. Yeah, because it's horse crap. I totally agree with you. I don't know. Here's what I will say about YouTube. I am skeptical because you and I, we've been through a lot of the same nonsense that they always do like this. But at least from my perspective, there were times when I years ago, I would go on somebody's channel and they would get banned. That has not happened as far as I'm aware, at least in six or seven months. The last year, almost a year, I'm able to go on shows. They don't get banned or demonetized. Yeah. And suddenly my clips are everywhere too.

1:38:26 Yeah, same here. So there definitely is a liberalization. They're definitely opening it up. The question is just how far are they going to take it? I'm skeptical that you and me are going to be allowed right back on. Well, don't you think, because the Holy Spirit, at the end of the day, gut level is your own knowledge, your instincts, your life experience, but also the Holy Spirit. I just think Elon Musk is good. He got mad at Trump and left, and he put it all on the line. He's been majorly attacked. I mean, on X we've done nothing but support. I mean, I think, I don't think I know Elon doing what he did open up all of this. I agree with you. It's, he probably did more good on that than maybe almost anybody else up to and including Trump on some level. Yeah. And then Trump's treatment. I know the inside baseball, a bunch of jealous people ran Elon out and told him it was a bad move.

1:39:18 I believe that. Elon is not a politician. He's a businessman, he's a technologist, and you know how politics are. It's all these jealous, petty people trying to cut each other and kill each other to get a position. And he's OCD obsessed with results. He said it, he said, the best base for my operations is America. I want to save it. He's not trying to steal your social security check like they said, it's the opposite. He's trying to stabilize it so he has a place to have wealth. It's purely selfish in a good way. It's like good greed. Well, yeah, and in so far as he's in favor of free speech, I think that is the best thing that can be done. Cuz that's what's gonna save the country is people like us being able to express ourselves and prevent the kind of really dark stuff that we saw a few years ago when censorship was out of control. So I agree, I mean, it cannot be overstated how big of a deal it is that he opened up the floodgates for all this when he bought Twitter. I never thought I'd see the day.

1:40:09 when, when Gavin McInnes who was on your show the other day, you, me, we'd all be right back. And he even said about you, I will, Alex can't come back. And then he brought you back and then he brought me back. And then, you know, Gavin came back the other day. It's almost miraculous because up until that point, it was not just a censorship. It was Kafka ask. It was like, you know, you try to appeal and then he came on the show for like, we did a couple of interviews, but, but I said, you understand I wasn't banned for Sandy hook. And he's like, really? And I said, he went to the logs. He goes, my God, you never even talked about it. You were banned for saying when Andy becomes your house, defend yourself. He went, whoa, I was lied to. I said, yeah, PR firm. I told the PR firm, he said, it was a PR firm attacking him and then it was like light bulb. Well, that's a testament then to his integrity. Then if he was under one impression, found out the information and made the correction, then- You read the headlines, I'm being mean to dead kids. I pee on graves. None of it's true.

1:41:09 So let me show you these clips of closing. Kamala says Trump's a communist dictator. How pathetic. And then we got Hillary saying white men are the problem. This is their total divide and conquer. This is all they've got left. Where does the Democratic Party go now with record low fundraising, record low ratings? What do they do? Here it is. A tyrant. We used to compare the strength of our democracy to communist dictators. That's what we're dealing with right now in Donald Trump. And these titans of industry are not speaking up.

1:41:46 And I am proud of the fact that we have always been a work in progress. We haven't gotten to the more perfect union and we fought a civil war over part of it. And people have been protesting for hundreds of years that things were not as they should be given our ideals and how we should be moving toward them. So I think that's what makes us so special as a country. And the idea that you could turn the clock back and try to recreate a world that never was dominated by, you know, let's say it, white men of a certain persuasion, a certain religion, a certain point of view, a certain ideology. It's just doing such damage to

1:42:33 what we should be aiming for. And we were on the path toward that. I mean, imperfectly, lots of, you know, bumps along the way, but I agree with you. We were on the right trajectory. So literal demonization of whites, Christians and Catholics. These are Satanists. Nick, how do you respond to that scumbaggery? That is so shocking to me. It's just so out of touch. I thought we were beyond that rhetoric. I thought even the Democrats were beyond that on some level, even just strategically. I remember- But that's why you're good. No one can look at you with rhetoric half as strong as theirs. We need to stop being cucked. That's why what you're doing is good. This is a- Well said. This is an anti-white, anti-Christian piece of filth trying to organize non-whites to hate us. It's bullshit.

1:43:19 That's exactly how else could you interpret it? She says, though, all of history is run by white Christian man. That's your time is over. You're finished. Who's going to run our country then? Immigrants. Who's going to run our country? Foreigners. And how's that going to happen? I'm proud of everybody. Everybody has skills. God made us all. But why do people want to be in Western cultures? Why the architecture? Why the science? I mean, what is it about white people? And why does the ADL and those groups want to remove that genius so they can rule a bunch of idiots? This is part of their just, they just hate us. I mean, on some level, they just hate us. When people say things like that, well, it's time for white men to step aside. I mean, there is nothing behind that other than pure racism. That's racial hatred for white men. And that's always what it's done. Pure envy. So what is it they hate?

1:44:13 I, you know, with her, she's a woman. So who knows what's behind that? She's a white woman herself. It's very curious. Yeah, exactly. And she looks terrible in that clip. With her, I don't know what it is. She's a complicated person. But with a lot of these people, it is a malicious hatred because we are creators. We generate, we create. When you look at Western civilization, when you look at Europe, it's synonymous with wealth, progress, industry, productivity, technology. Stuff that they don't have, stuff that arguably maybe they never could have. Things that they don't have in their countries and they come here. They're scared of innovation. I would say they're more just jealous of the wealth. I don't think they, they're not innovators themselves. I don't think they think in those terms. I think it's literally purely, they look at the squalor they live in. I admire innovators whoever they are. Why are they threatened by beauty?

1:45:13 Because they can't control it. They don't have it. They can't control it. They don't have it in their countries. And so it's sort of like if we can't have it, then no one can. You know, they want to be the masters of it. If they can't have it, then they want to bring it all down. I think on some level that's where this. Yes, it's that anti-colonial stuff. It all comes from there. But it's like you said, why are they still on this point destroying him? Because it's who they are. They can't stop. Well, that's a perfect way to bring it home cuz it's true. I mean, this is hurting them. You'd think after 2024, they'd say we gotta back off this anti-white stuff cuz look at what it is catalyzing on the other side. And they're losing white people for her to come across and say, well, let's just say it's white men. They literally cannot contain themselves, like they can't suppress their hatred. So that's why it's surprising. She's talking about Christians.

1:46:04 Yeah, of a certain religion, she says, persuasion, maybe she meant heterosexual, cuz we're supposed to have a big gay brown, Hindu, Stanny, whatever kind of place. So it's just pure malice and seething resentment. You'd think they'd have figured it out. Last year, they had Tim Walz with the camo hat, if you remember that whole operation. And they recognized, we got to appeal to the white men. I guess they forgot that. And now they want to go back to race competition. Shotgun shells in the butt of the gun. Nick Fuentes, Nick J. Fuentes on Rumble, everywhere else. I'd love to come on your show, brother. We have a lot of guests, but we really appreciate you. Powerful. This is the best interview yet. Thank you so much for the time and stay alive, buddy, because they're coming for you. Coming for me. You too, man. You too, man. Thanks for having me. Thank you. Look, when you realize how fake it all is, the football, the basketball, the Lady Gaga, the Justin Bieber,