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00:00 He is like Kamala Harris and Joe Biden on steroids when it comes to foreign policy right now, that's for sure. I mean, Kamala Harris was too dumb to try to out rhetoric him and get to the left of him. She let Donald Trump get to his left campaign wise. And then she's in the middle of funding a genocide and she said she wouldn't do anything different. So it was obvious that's their fault. They campaigned horribly. Donald Trump campaigned brilliantly in a sense, even though he didn't mean any of it. And so he was not always the enemy because it seems like he had this in the plan all along.

00:35 So yeah, so he's definitely the enemy, no doubt about it. He's doing things that nobody, did you imagine he was gonna start World War III? Because that's actually what this is and what's gonna happen right now. And I can't believe this isn't the headline in every newspaper and in every newscast, is that they're going to crash the stock market and that's going to crash our economy because the Gulf States can't export oil right now. And so they're the one propping up our, our stock market through their investments in all our AI companies, hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars. And as soon as that's gone, our stock market crashes, our economy crashes, our petro dollar might be going away. I really, this is way worse than anybody could have imagined. And their idea to balkanize Iran the way we did to Syria is a big mistake.

01:24 It's bad for us and I just can't understand how Donald Trump didn't know that this was going to happen. There's going to be no good that comes from this. And it's way worse than people think. And it's most likely going to crash our economy, most likely going to crash our stock market if they don't stop immediately. and it doesn't seem like he's going to stop. I mean, I was, I covered it yesterday on my show. I hope he is serious about wanting to end the war, but I think he's going to do whatever Benjamin Netanyahu wants to do, just like he has been doing. The great Jimmy Dore joins us, one of my favorite comics, but definitely one of the best talk shows out there. I mean, I'd agree with everything he says, but God, as he said well with his great co-host, JimmyDore.com. And I don't want to make this interview about him and I, and I get it, you know, everybody does what they do for whatever, but I've seen these videos of him and others, someone addressed this right now, I'm gonna go to him, saying it's really funny how he did it. Jones just now, after all these bad things Trump did, just now turned against Trump.

02:30 And then he said, Fuentes is not turning against Trump. No, he didn't support him in the election. My point was, is that I was still saying overall Democrats are worse. And now Trump's trying to end the world with Lindsey Graham. So I'm now at a point where before I was like, well, it's better. I'm holding my nose and opposing bad stuff he does. That was not me naively. Yeah, we're gonna stop Kennedy. We're gonna give lava protection to glyphosate. And round up, Jimmy, I am screaming and yelling about every single bad thing Trump does. At the same time, I like him shutting down the border. I like him trying to stop war with Russia. But it's all negated with what he's doing now in Iran. Hopefully now he says he's backing off because he says now he knows his advisors are a bunch of lunatics. But you can certainly get the lesser of two evil thing here. But just understand, I was not naive, my friend.

03:25 You know, I haven't seen a bigger electoral fraud in since I've been covering politics in my life than the Donald Trump presidential campaign. It was I it's unbelievable. Right. The whole thing was that he was the peace candidate. They were saying that for four years straight. Everybody, you know, J.D. Vance, Stephen Miller, Tulsi Gabbard, RFK, Trump himself constantly, constantly, you know, I could play videos from now until next week of Trump saying how stupid it is to do Middle East wars and we're not investing in our own country and we're wasting trillions of dollars on all this stuff and we should bring our troops home and

04:05 I've never seen anything like this. So, you know, what I wanted to say, what I started to say when Kurt and I covered you lamenting over Trump and the Iran war was that I actually feel for you, you know, it's obvious that you were hoping and that's what I was telling. I would tell people, I go, I have hope. I don't have faith in Trump, but I have hope that what he campaigned on, he's going to do some of it. And he did do something like he did close the border, which is kind of wild that you don't need to build a wall. Isn't that funny? It's like you just flip a switch and all of a sudden the borders close. Isn't that amazing? You never needed a wall. So that's kind of amazing. So I'll give him props for that. No doubt. But everything else seems to be not working out.

04:50 it. Uh, exactly. Well, here's a big problem. And I did see you add that proviso in, but it was, it was really funny the way he put it just as one of them and then devastating to me, but, but, but, but I just want to say not exactly accurate. I wasn't naive about it though. I here's the deal. He tried to do most of what he said the first term they blocked him. And he was pigheaded and actually tried to do it. Now, like you said, on almost every issue, he is violently doing a 180. So I'm happy to get in the position now of, wow, if he continues on this path, he'll be worse than the Democrats soon. It is a violent breaking of promises. What do you think's behind this? And where do we go now?

05:28 Well, what I think behind this is he's completely controlled by Israel. That's what and the stuff that he does that isn't controlled by Israel, it's controlled by big agra and big pharma, right? He just gave $35 billion to the makers of Mozambique. to give it to Americans, whereas RFK campaigned against it. He's gonna get put, he's giving us a shield just like they gave the vaccines. He's trying to give a shield to the people poisoning our food with glyphosate. RFK ran against that 100%. So did he actually, they both ran against it and they're doing that. So why do I think he's doing it? Those are the things, he's just a charlatan

06:06 He's the ultimate con man. I mean, his campaign was the ultimate con, Alex. You can't deny that. And not only from, you know, with Maha, the way he's given the finger to Maha and poked his finger in their eye constantly, but, You know where he's he was supposed to get rid of censorship in the era of free speech And then he just brings in a whole new awokeness, but it's for DEI for Jewish students It's it's kicking people out of the country. It's new hate crimes on campus for protecting Jewish student You can't criticize Israel or Zion. It's the craziest thing so that's what I think is doing now you've known this right so I mean it's

06:44 My question for you is, what do you think the leverage is? Because I heard you say that he's controlled by Israel. What do you think the leverage is that Israel has on him? Well, let's be really cynical here, because I do war game everything in my mind. And I was told by high level people that Epstein is CIA, which we now know, running airfields, everything for decades, basically on the Trilateral Commission for David Rockefeller, his stand in. So he was more powerful than I even knew. I'm not always right. He was more powerful than I thought. And I was told Trump's not gonna go there because of national security. He is Mossad, he is MI6, he is CIA. At the highest level, spies, they're in all the groups. They're in all the five eyes. We now know he was connected to European intelligence. And so I was told it's going nowhere. This is gonna be shut down. Well, it's a victory we forced so much out. It's devastating. So it's another populist victory that Congress did that. And so I understood why it was happening. I didn't agree with it.

07:41 But wargaming this, he would either release it all, bring down the deep state, or try to hold it back and use it to blackmail them. Because from all my research, there was no criminal stuff with Trump in there. But he then joined the conspiracy and then got Bongino and Patel, because they thought, oh, they'll believe them, they're podcasters, to come out and try to sell us the Trojan horse. And then you really want to get cynical. This is what it is. You keep your enemies closer. He brings in Kennedy. He brings in everybody to map out what we want, try to control the opposition. Democrats years ago tried to buy me off. So that's what they do. And they haven't bought Kennedy off was get close. They can watch him. And then Trump gets all the data.

08:21 On the political structure, he didn't really understand, which he admits. And then now he's using it with Ludnick's kid and all of the other kids to then blackmail the system. And he's using it to become basically the new deep state. And I think that's basically what's going on. So you want the dark side of it? I'll just say it's not a war game. That's actually, I think, what's happening. And so Trump was like, I wanted to have prosperity fix this turnaround. Oh, you guys want to play dirty? I'll be dirtier than you. And so he's become Darth Vader. And that's Jimmy. I don't think that's speculation now. But I mean, if he's the one you say, are you saying are you trying? Are you saying that Trump is actually the one pulling the strings on people like Lutnick and the deep state and not the other way around? Is that what you're saying?

09:07 Let's say Trump is a quick study. He's an expert on things he studies. And what I'm saying is you bring in Kennedy to put big pharma in deep trouble. And you go in and you're going to reform and Doge goes and finds all the corruption. And as soon as you give them the information, Trump goes, okay, go away, Elon. Okay, we're going to sideline you, Kennedy. And then now they all come and kiss his ass and make deals for him. Suddenly his wealth and his kids' wealth all triple, and now everything's okay. So Trump realized, I'm not gonna beat these people long term. So he's like, well, I'm not gonna be able to be the turnaround guy. It's more corrupt than I thought. Then he listened to some really evil advisors. They said, look, just come in and take it over. So instead of getting rid of the globalist New World Order, he's creating a new New World Order.

09:54 I mean, he's obviously working with, if not the entire deep state, a faction of the deep state. And it seems to me that there are factions of the deep state. There's like the CIA and then the military intelligence and they have their own kind of warring factions. But I don't, I would, It doesn't make sense to me that he's actually the one pulling the strings and he's the one blackmailing them. What, you know, so okay, so him and his kids made money, but what is, is he using it for any policy that he wants to get in? His whole thing was no foreign wars and he was going to bring American prosperity back. No, no, that points towards, that points towards Israeli blackmail. I'm simply saying on your question of why is he bringing it? He brings in Kennedy and all that.

10:37 to then get all the dirt and put the deep state in a bad position and then each time as soon as they're about to be shut down he shuts down the investigation then they all run kissing his ass. You see what's happening there? Oh okay I see your point. But I'm not saying he's succeeded in what he's attempting but looking at this I was concerned that would always be an option but separate from that On the war, it's pure manipulation. I was worried when he had success in Venezuela so far that that would embolden him. And it did. Now they admit in cabinet meetings, he's like, I'm invincible, I'm unstoppable. I've talked to people in these meetings. I mean, Trump is, I mean, let's just say it's megalomania.

11:21 And so it's dangerous. And that's why we've got to slap it down, explain it's BS. A lot of his advisors told him don't go in. Now he's pulling back as he sees. And that's good. He's, you know, the megalomania is wearing off. But now we've got a bull in a china shop to deal with. All the cliches the Democrats said we had before, it's now here. So, do you think there's a possibility that Donald Trump is actually believing what people tell him around him? Like, I remember when he lost that Supreme Court case over the immigration early on. 9 to 0 and I'm watching on television and Stephen Miller says that Trump, they ruled in Trump's favor 9 to 0. So I think he believing the polls that they say, oh no, everybody's behind you and the war is very popular, you're doing good. I think that he's literally believing that kind of stuff and the people behind him. I think he's in an information bubble and he doesn't know just how unpopular this is. He's totally bubble wrapped.

12:17 And he thinks he's manipulating the deep state. They're manipulating him. I wasn't saying he's actually doing it. I'm saying he's trying, but let me lay this on you. I know you covered it. So, you know about it. Ludnick has his two sons running counter Fitzgerald, the same ones they made record bets on nine 11 of United American and, and made out like bandits. He buys up all of the insurance that the people are willing to sell on the Trump tariffs. That if the tariffs got reversed, they would pay out on it. It's $178 billion. So they bought those at 30, 25 to 20, 30% of what they were worth.

11:21 And so it's dangerous. And that's why we've got to slap it down, explain it's BS. A lot of his advisors told him don't go in. Now he's pulling back as he sees. And that's good. He's, you know, the megalomania is wearing off. But now we've got a bull in a china shop to deal with. All the cliches the Democrats said we had before, it's now here. So, do you think there's a possibility that Donald Trump is actually believing what people tell him around him? Like, I remember when he lost that Supreme Court case over the immigration early on. 9 to 0 and I'm watching on television and Stephen Miller says that Trump, they ruled in Trump's favor 9 to 0. So I think he believing the polls that they say, oh no, everybody's behind you and the war is very popular, you're doing good. I think that he's literally believing that kind of stuff and the people behind him. I think he's in an information bubble and he doesn't know just how unpopular this is. He's totally bubble wrapped.

12:17 And he thinks he's manipulating the deep state. They're manipulating him. I wasn't saying he's actually doing it. I'm saying he's trying, but let me lay this on you. I know you covered it. So, you know about it. Ludnick has his two sons running counter Fitzgerald, the same ones they made record bets on nine 11 of United American and, and made out like bandits. He buys up all of the insurance that the people are willing to sell on the Trump tariffs. That if the tariffs got reversed, they would pay out on it. It's $178 billion. So they bought those at 30, 25 to 20, 30% of what they were worth.

12:53 They then get caught doing it. Ludnick writes the executive order that even Gorzik's told Trump and others, this is written wrong. You would have won this. The executive order is written wrong. Here's how you should write it the next time. And then Ludnick's out there saying, oh no, the insurance will never get paid. It's a conspiracy theory. We're going to win this 100% knowing it would fail the Supreme Court. And then he makes billions. That, that is an example of how Trump is being manipulated or maybe Trump's in on it, I don't know. Well, it's obvious that you know, Lutnick is a criminal. It's obvious that if you look into why he didn't show up at 9-11, he said it was because he had to take his kids to school that day. But his kids school actually started two days earlier, so it wasn't like he had to take his kids for the first day. It was so anyway, there's lots of

13:47 you know, speculation about him. Yeah, he certainly did create a crisis. So they create a crisis with these tariffs and then he sells the solution to those people. I got the solution you're going to lose. So I'll come in and buy these bad bets for you. Yeah, I mean, it's 100% corrupt, but I hear Now that the scales have fallen from your eyes over Trump, where do we go from here? Is electoral politics dead? Because it seems dead to me. It's not that the scales fell. I knew the system really came after him, came after me for supporting him. There was some bad but a lot of good. Now the good is going away. And I just want people to know we're the populist movement beyond left or right. It's happening, it's the fourth turning. Don't get demoralized and give up politically just because Trump finally got a brain worm or whatever. And put pressure on Trump to get back on the straight and narrow. Now he's like, looks like we're gonna end the war right away. Yeah, cuz your advisor's lied to you. So I'm just saying,

14:48 I saw Trump as a lesser of two evils. And now, if he continues down this road, he becomes the enemy, number one. Does that make sense? No doubt about it. I mean, he is like Kamala Harris and Joe Biden on steroids when it comes to foreign policy right now, that's for sure. I mean, Kamala Harris was too dumb to try to out rhetoric him and get to the left of him. She let Donald Trump get to his left campaign wise. And then she's in the middle of funding a genocide and she said she wouldn't do anything different. So it was obvious that's their fault. They campaigned horribly. Donald Trump campaigned brilliantly in a sense, even though he didn't mean any of it. And so he was not always the enemy because it seems like he had this in the plan all along.

15:37 So yeah, so he's definitely the enemy, no doubt about it. He's doing things that nobody, did you imagine he was gonna start World War III? Because that's actually what this is and what's gonna happen right now. And I can't believe this isn't the headline in every newspaper and in every newscast, is that they're going to crash the stock market and that's going to crash our economy because the Gulf States can't export oil right now. And so they're the one propping up our, our stock market through their investments in all our AI companies, hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars. And as soon as that's gone, our stock market crashes, our economy crashes, our petro dollar might be going away. I really, this is way worse than anybody could have imagined. And their idea to balkanize Iran the way we did to Syria is a big mistake.

16:26 It's bad for us and I just can't understand how Donald Trump didn't know that this was going to happen. There's going to be no good that comes from this. And it's way worse than people think. And it's most likely going to crash our economy, most likely going to crash our stock market if they don't stop immediately. and it doesn't seem like he's going to stop. I mean, I was, I covered it yesterday on my show. I hope he is serious about wanting to end the war, but I think he's going to do whatever Benjamin Netanyahu wants to do, just like he has been doing. And again, so what do you think is the control mechanism? What is the blackmail or what is the leverage that Israel has?

19:50 We always hear from the Trump supporters that if we're against the war, we're on the Qatari payroll or we're on the UAE or we're, BS. I've got zero money from those people, never heard from them. Had Republicans try to buy me off, had Democrats try to buy me off, but that's it. The Saudi Arabians are just flooding his family with money. The other Gulf states are buying all their crap coins. I mean, it's just open season. And It's not illegal to sell crap coins and meme coins, but to have sheiks put billions of dollars into them, and then the kids all get $300 million, $400 million a piece. Don't just mean Trump's kids, the entire cabinet's kids are cashing in. Saudi Arabia wanted this, and Saudi Arabia, Trump has said, said no, go ahead and do it. Their archenemy is the Shiites. I think the Muslims hate the West, they really hate each other even more.

20:44 And then you've got obviously Adelson in the Israeli lobby and all that, but they weren't able to get him to do it first go around. You got Netanyahu, but you've got the head of CENTCOM who's this big war hero, who's basically a Christian Zionist. And he's convinced Trump. A bunch of his advisors told him it was a bad idea. The chairman leaked a week before the intelligence report from Gabbard, this is a really bad idea. And Trump really believed he was high like a gambler at 3am in Vegas on Venezuela going well, that he thought he was going to run the tables and he really thought they were going to fall. So first it's regime change and then now it's well we're going to bomb for 20 years if we need to.

21:25 And now he sees the market, now he sees the French go in to try to, just by being there hoping both sides don't seal the trade hormones. And Trump sees the stock market having problems, energy exploding. And then Suze Walls in the news, screaming at cabinet meetings, we don't know why oil's up, we gotta get it down. Well, what do you think was gonna happen? So Trump's now listening, people like Eric Prince, who couldn't believe Trump did this, it's so bad with all the ramifications as we see unfolding. I think Trump through his ego, we know. I mean, Lindsey Graham's bragged about it. I said, sir, you're going to be the hero. Let him tell you Roosevelt, you've got to do this. And so it really is about shrugging Trump's ego. Now, enough of me, Jimmy. You're asking me questions. I want to interview Jimmy Dorey. You've got the floor.

22:09 No, I saw it just sounds to me like because I had heard you say on the clip that we covered that Donald Trump is controlled by Israel So now it seems like you're switching and saying it was Saudi Arabia that wanted this war. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Because the because Iran is their big enemy. Yeah, but right now they're getting wiped out right and they could easily attack their desalinization Plants and then that would wipe out their water, which is what they're trying to do to Iran right now Which is a war crime. You're not supposed to do it, but that's beside the point but it

22:58 Iran was easily wiped out our military bases in Saudi Arabia and Qatar and Bahrain. And now the Saudi Arabians are complaining that the United States is not using our military to protect them. We're using our military to protect Israel. So they've woken up to the fact that even though they put military, American military bases in their country, it doesn't mean that we're gonna protect them because we're not protecting them. Sure, sure. You were asking me why you thought Trump did it. And it was because the majority of groups and people around him, including his advisors, that weren't military, told him to do it. Most of the military told him not to. The question of why did he do it was the final piece, even New York Times had that headline, was Saudi Arabia putting pressure. I'm not saying Saudi Arabia runs the agenda. I'm saying that final piece. 100% Israel is the

23:49 Is the ringmaster is the leader of the circus? So no, I'm not I was trying to give you the consortium of why he went with it And I'm saying Saudi Arabia and others were the last little piece. Oh, okay. I did. Okay, that's news to me I did not know that Saudi Arabia was on board with this and now they're certainly having second thoughts because even as the White House said Wow Iran had better met more missiles than we thought yeah that it was easy for them to overwhelm with the with the drones that fly low and made out of balsa wood instead of metal. And so they got through the Iron Dome pretty easily and we're gonna go bankrupt because it costs millions and millions of dollars to shoot down one $30,000 drone from them. So, and we're running out of those bad missiles and the Patriot missile. We're in trouble, right? And we're pulling in a military arsenals from South Korea, from Ukraine. This is, it's a disaster. And no, I don't think anybody's telling Trump

24:47 that it's a disaster. But it's just obvious that he's being run by Israel, he's being run by Netanyahu, and they've got something on him. And they still haven't released 3 million of the Epstein files. So we don't know what's in there on Donald Trump. And a lot of people speculated that it was Benjamin Netanyahu that leaked to the New York Times the birthday card that he sent to Jeffrey Epstein. And that was to let him know we can do this at any moment and you better go along with our Iran plan. So they definitely did go, they've admitted it. Everybody saw Marco Rubio admit the reason why we did this was because Israel is leading us and we had to do it. So anyway, here we are and

25:27 What you know, the big question is what happens next? And I don't think people realize. Did you think Trump realizes that the Gulf states are not going to keep investing hundreds of billions, if not trillions of dollars into the United States stock market? And that's going to crush our economy. It seems like he doesn't get this. Well, more than that. When you have all these Gulf states that are these big investment areas, people are scared to be there now. That's why Iran hit them. So that's already sent shockwaves through to put pressure on Trump. And then now he finally gets it. Which again, he was told by the chairman of the Joint Chiefs, this will probably happen. You're not gonna remove the regime, very low probability of success. And then that got leaked right before. And then now they released part of the document a few days ago that told

26:16 Tulsi Gabbard did her job, you know, she didn't say it publicly, but they gave him a report saying don't do this and Trump listened Netanyahu. Now they say he's furious at Netanyahu for blowing up Iran's oil because he's told Iran don't blow up our oil. I mean, what does Trump think? So I totally agree. Israel is driving the train. They're the conductor. Netanyahu doesn't even think about anybody else's interest. Not even Israel, he thinks about his own interests. He's a war criminal, he's indicted, he needs this to go forever, he's a megalomaniac. And they admit Israel went to attack first, that's confirmed, to drag us into it. And we literally have Israel leading us around by the nose.

26:55 And every cliche, every stereotype has now come true. And you've got to be saying eight front war. We're going to censor anybody in America that is it for this. And all I want Netanyahu to do is stop trying to start World War III. So Trump said last night, we're going to wind it down. We're going to end it. Hopefully that's the case. Here's what I'm concerned about, Jimmy. And I said this 10 days ago when I started, I said, if Iran things are going down, they'll activate their sleeper cells that are real. They have real lesbo. But I said also if the deep state thinks Trump isn't going far enough, or the Israelis, they can stage terror attacks and say Iran did it. Well now the White House says the order has been made, they got the code, the Iranians are launching terror attacks. So when these happen, we have to look at it, was it Iran or was it Israel or some black op group? Jimmy Dore. I predicted that on the show yesterday, that look out for false flags.

27:53 That's their MO. Right now we've already caught Israel. So it was Israel that bombed the oil facilities in Saudi Arabia. They wanted everybody to think it was Iran. Israel bombing Turkey. Israel had Mossad, according to Tucker Carlson, had agents inside of Qatar looking to blow stuff up inside of Qatar. So they're all supposed to be on the same side. That's what they thought. They thought they were all on the same side and they're not on the same side. Israel wants the Gulf states to fail. They want them wiped out. They want Iran to attack them, which they have. And so this, this it's a yeah, it's Israel is the cancer. It's always been the cancer. And, you know, I wanted to ask you, you know,

28:32 Now, you've been saying for 20 years that our country's run by compromised blackmail PDF files. Do you feel vindicated now that it's true? And why do you think Trump won't release those extra 3 million files if there's nothing in there that is incriminating to him? Well, as I said when you first came on, because the CIA, Mossad, MI6 run those files and run pedophilia and run the finders. Ted Gunnarsson was the head of the FBI in LA. He ran Cohen-Perel-Perot. He apologized for it later. They tapped him to replace J. Edgar Hoover. That's how big he was. And he didn't know any of this until he retired to make more money as a security company head and found out that Hollywood was run by devil worshipping, blood drinking pedophiles. And he couldn't even believe it.

27:53 That's their MO. Right now we've already caught Israel. So it was Israel that bombed the oil facilities in Saudi Arabia. They wanted everybody to think it was Iran. Israel bombing Turkey. Israel had Mossad, according to Tucker Carlson, had agents inside of Qatar looking to blow stuff up inside of Qatar. So they're all supposed to be on the same side. That's what they thought. They thought they were all on the same side and they're not on the same side. Israel wants the Gulf states to fail. They want them wiped out. They want Iran to attack them, which they have. And so this, this it's a yeah, it's Israel is the cancer. It's always been the cancer. And, you know, I wanted to ask you, you know,

28:32 Now, you've been saying for 20 years that our country's run by compromised blackmail PDF files. Do you feel vindicated now that it's true? And why do you think Trump won't release those extra 3 million files if there's nothing in there that is incriminating to him? Well, as I said when you first came on, because the CIA, Mossad, MI6 run those files and run pedophilia and run the finders. Ted Gunnarsson was the head of the FBI in LA. He ran Cohen-Perel-Perot. He apologized for it later. They tapped him to replace J. Edgar Hoover. That's how big he was. And he didn't know any of this until he retired to make more money as a security company head and found out that Hollywood was run by devil worshipping, blood drinking pedophiles. And he couldn't even believe it.

29:18 And he found out the CIA had a big compound making stuff films with kids in DC. He got it rated, but then they shut it down. I mean, it, you know, it was, uh, Franklin cover up. I interviewed John to camp. It was CIA operation, you know, Phoenix and Vietnam, not some cream puff. He found out about it and blew the whistle. So I got to have like the OGs of this, you know, and, and, and now they'd be classified a lot of what you got her. So told me she So, Gunnarsson said they have auctions of little kids under Las Vegas. They fly them around, you know, through the UN. And he was saying this like 30-some years ago. A decade later, it kind of, the mainstream media did his job for a while. Report on the UN, child trafficking, DynCorp, Halliburton. There's famous hearings in Congress where they're hot shipping millions of women and children. And Rumsfeld says, well, they paid a fine.

30:04 You know, they were in a penalty box for you. So, I mean, it's just, it's like, it's not like I came up with this or I was psychic. I had like respected people. And then I talked to other people like the head of Air Force Weapons Development, you know, General Pardner, he'd say, no, it's dead on. There's satanic pedophiles, blah, blah, blah. And they would tell me the stories about how they find satanic nest on the bases and infiltrating. And just, it's like, it's crazy, but it's a test. It's like MS-13. has devolved to the point, the CIA helped kind of set it up under Clinton, to become a main member you got to sacrifice a kid and carve a pentagram in him. It's just, it's like a rite of passage. So somebody will rape and murder kids, they'll do anything. So it's like the Pricewood mission. So you can say as an atheist, oh, it's just, what's the most evil thing? Well, be the devil.

30:54 So they're choosing to be the devil or god's real, which I know and believe. And this is a manifestation of it. Regardless, it's here, it's real. And people that never get tired of a nice steak or a sunset, you know, or listening to beautiful music or whatever, we're satisfied. We're like, you want to rape kids? You want to get pentagrams? You want to blow countries up? These people are sick, Jimmy. and they're missing something. And so yes, evil is real. We're now discovering the age of being naive is over. We are discovering that the devil, whether it's spiritual or a manifestation or an archetype, Carl Jung, it's real. Whatever you want to call it, the devil's real.

31:34 So isn't it wasn't Trump supposed to go in and expose this stuff? Wasn't he supposed to go in and expose that class and set instead he's covering up for them. And if it's not because of him having something in those extra 3 million files, and I don't know what it is, it seems like They've got him, they certainly got him, Israel's got him. And so I don't know what it is then if it's not that. He's supposed to be the head of the CIA. He's supposed to be the head of the FBI and the NSA. They're supposed to work for him, not the other way around. But it seems like what you're saying is it's the other way around. They're controlling the Epstein files, which means they're controlling Trump. He can't do anything. He's not the boss. And so Trump has bosses. Well, it's obvious he has handlers and he does have bosses. To people like me,

32:21 But they, you know, um, what happens is even when he gives orders, they say, yes, sir. I never do it. I mean, they just killed the auto pit investigation. Oh, I mean, yeah. I mean, they, they, uh, again, he's supposed to be the boss. We know that happened in Syria when he wanted the troops pulled out and they lied to him and said they did with his first term. And, uh, they didn't pull out the troops that they said they would give him fake intelligence briefings. And later it came out, John Bolton gave him fake intelligence briefings. Yeah. But, you know, are you upset at so I know that you don't agree. Do you who do you think killed Charlie Kirk? If you don't if you don't do you think it was Tyler Robinson in the FBI story or what what what do you think is going on? Yeah, that I noticed that's when you guys started kind of going against me some just because the way it all boiled down.

33:12 Well Alex, here's the thing, here's the thing. This story seems like it's right up your alley because no matter where you put your attention into the Charlie Kirk assassination or TPUSA or Erica Kirk, there's a million things that don't make sense and stand out as red flags. So it seems like it would be right up your alley. And so you've seen the speculation. People think that somehow you've been compromised because you're not your old you. So what we want to go, what happened to the old Alex? We want the old Alex back. And so that's, what do you say to those people when they say that? Well, you ask me questions and I've done big gestalts from different angles, you know, of the different pieces. And you can look at each piece, take out a context, say something that I didn't say. I don't believe that a 30-odd six goes into your neck and bounces back out. Okay?

32:21 But they, you know, um, what happens is even when he gives orders, they say, yes, sir. I never do it. I mean, they just killed the auto pit investigation. Oh, I mean, yeah. I mean, they, they, uh, again, he's supposed to be the boss. We know that happened in Syria when he wanted the troops pulled out and they lied to him and said they did with his first term. And, uh, they didn't pull out the troops that they said they would give him fake intelligence briefings. And later it came out, John Bolton gave him fake intelligence briefings. Yeah. But, you know, are you upset at so I know that you don't agree. Do you who do you think killed Charlie Kirk? If you don't if you don't do you think it was Tyler Robinson in the FBI story or what what what do you think is going on? Yeah, that I noticed that's when you guys started kind of going against me some just because the way it all boiled down.

33:12 Well Alex, here's the thing, here's the thing. This story seems like it's right up your alley because no matter where you put your attention into the Charlie Kirk assassination or TPUSA or Erica Kirk, there's a million things that don't make sense and stand out as red flags. So it seems like it would be right up your alley. And so you've seen the speculation. People think that somehow you've been compromised because you're not your old you. So what we want to go, what happened to the old Alex? We want the old Alex back. And so that's, what do you say to those people when they say that? Well, you ask me questions and I've done big gestalts from different angles, you know, of the different pieces. And you can look at each piece, take out a context, say something that I didn't say. I don't believe that a 30-odd six goes into your neck and bounces back out. Okay?

33:59 I don't believe the official story. You've got the famous disruptor operative down there saying I shot him, I shot him so that quote, the guy could get away. You have all the weirdness swirling around. You have Kash Patel that I broke. And I argue with Tulsi Gabbard like six days after he's dead saying we're not looking at foreign involvement or accomplices. And you've got on its face all the trans people saying he'll be dead tomorrow, watch. They won't even question them. So obviously there's a cover-up. Then if you're going to investigate the cover-up,

34:35 You have to then go after real stuff. Like when we got the Podesta files in the WikiLeaks in 2016, and it was we're delivering the 7-year-old, 9-year-old, and 11-year-old for your pleasure in the hot tub, Mr. Podesta. And it's a company that literally rents kids for parties and then hide it. And so then the CNN focused on 4chan and 8chan, seeing a pizza place is where they were doing it. That was a diversion even though some people involved there were in the orbit of that, from what was happening in New York and other states. So then everybody's telling me go look at Fort Huachuca and go look at this guy Mitch Schnell. And he's a known con man, video of him attacking his wife with a hammer, he says she did. You don't have 12 colonels in a meeting the day before and we're gonna kill Charlie tomorrow, it's not how it works. So

35:28 So, I mean, in the military, they're actually killing somebody, they hand somebody a file. He's like an army captain or somebody. So the point was, I was saying to Candace, I said, you're being set up with disinfo to discredit the investigation. And then they all turned around and said, you're funded by whoever the Israelis. So then I got a little bit pissed about it. And so that was my point is, obviously, you've got Erica Kirk with the fake crying and just all of it. There's something's going on there. But then to say, then all this other stuff and then I go like the Egyptian planes. Other people went and bought the data, looked at it, it wasn't accurate. I said, hey, this isn't accurate. Notice we've never gotten the Egyptian plane data that was gonna be published. So it's not saying, I'm saying disinfo gets put out. I don't wanna say Kansas is doing this on purpose to discredit the real stuff that's there. Does that make sense?

36:23 I mean sure yeah that makes sense yeah I mean um it it uh you know there was obviously a coordinated op against Candace Owens to try to create you know paint a picture and to disparage and smear her character and that came later that came later than People even pay to call her a demon or whatever. I don't even know that's true. I don't normally in fight and I wasn't in fighting there. I had everybody on the street and telling me look at the Egyptian planes, look into this Mitch Snow guy. I go look him up. The man's a historic con man. I just go, this isn't right. Like, like there's all this real stuff. I don't have to buy everything that's been put out. I mean, does that make sense?

37:06 Yeah, yeah, I mean you don't have to believe Mitch Snow to believe there's a cover up and something. But it's also interesting that Erica Kerr can't tell us where she was when she was supposedly at Camp Huachuca. She hasn't provided any of that evidence. And so- Jimmy, you know they don't have 12 colonels in a skiff planning his murder the day before. That's not how it works. Okay, I mean I don't know how it works. Have you ever seen Apocalypse Now? Yeah, a long time ago. Okay, well, they did decades of research to make that. That's exactly how the army assassinated somebody. They won't even say kill Colonel Kurtz. Okay, you don't have 12 people in the room, much less 12 colonels. They don't have 12. They don't probably have 12 colonels in the army that do domestic killing. Okay? I'm just telling you, it doesn't work like that.

38:03 So you don't think Candace Owens is crazy or anything, you just think that maybe, or she's evil, you just think that maybe on this one lead, which was Mitch Snow and Camp Huachuca, you think that she was given bad information? Sure, you remember all the Gotti recordings. They had to put microphones outside to get him. I need to take care of him, he needs to go away, you know? It's like in Yellowstone, they go, take him to the train station. No one says kill someone. Okay, in Senate reports, you don't have 12 colonels and they're all meeting to plan an assassination the next day. It's bonkertown.

38:41 But it did, you know, that they're over the top freak out over this. The assertion about Camp Huachuca is suspicious, right? And there's and now we know that Erica Kirk and and Harpo have these connections to Camp Watchers, all these kind of weird connections to Camp Huachuca. And so that was really a red flag when they freaked out over that. Way too much if it was nothing they would why would they care and why wouldn't Erica be able to tell us where she was on the 8th and 9th, so I think there's something I mean she really photos. They said they weren't real. I mean you can't write but satisfy that stuff as I met the metadata didn't match up so Let's be clear. Let's be clear. I'm not involved with tbusa. I've been a few other events spoke I'm not being paid as I didn't bring this up. I shouldn't even got into it fine Mitch knows God

39:31 12 colonels, she was there. Hell, Eric pulled the trigger. She killed him. I mean, just move on. Candace Owens is God. Candace Owens said, you know, ice melts at 30 degrees and it didn't melt. And her people told me no ice does, does melt at 30 degrees. Fine. Ice melts 30 degrees. No longer 32. Whatever, whatever she says, Jimmy, she's God. Done. Boom. Cause I'm not the apologist for TPUSA. I'm not involved. Fine. They did it. They killed him. Boom. Move on. Because I'm serious, they murdered him. I mean, to me it just sucks. I don't, all I know is they've all been lying nonstop, right? So they've all been lying from the chief of his security team to the pastors surrounding him to his team who are now hosting his show under his name. They've even gone so far as to say that Charlie would support the war once it started. I mean, these guys, those are the biggest bunch of used car salesmen, liars, charlatans,

40:28 you know, self dealers I've ever seen in my life. And if you look at Wolves of Finance, he's uncovered all this financial shenanigans that they were doing with their shell companies and sending millions of dollars to a UPS mailbox and calling it a company. So there's all kinds of stuff that was happening. Those guys are criminal liars and charlatans, and it's very obvious. So, Here's the deal, here's the deal, I didn't like having to spend my time while we got them getting ready to World War III and all this focusing on every little minutia about this. I got irritated. Let me tell you, where I burrowed in, Jimmy, into their stories about them, it wasn't accurate. Of course, I was joking saying they didn't. I'm just sick of it. I've moved on. The people can believe whatever they want, but here's the thing. This company has a P.O. box.

41:21 We don't say where our location is. Those corporations, I'm not even defending that, but My point is, is that we hear all this stuff and I'm telling you before you say that stuff, you should run that down. Cuz I can't believe how much stuff I run down and I couldn't believe that when I tried to say, hey, I ran this down, it's not right. I ran this down, it's not right. People didn't wanna hear it. So I'm like, hey, you want Barrabas? You got it. I wash my hands, not talking about Candace Owens. Ice melts at 30 degrees, it's true. Um, anything she says is accurate. Word of God. I'm serious. Like word of God. Anything she says I'm for it done for what you, Mitch knows a great guy. His wife attacked him with a hammer. I know I agree with it all. I'm done. You understand. She is God. When I'm serious, like, like, like they say, ex Catherine, the Pope from his throne is the word of God. No, the word of God is Candace Owens. I'm done. I support her. She's God. Everything she says is true. Mitch Snow is like,

42:20 like the archangel Michael and his farts are like the truth. He says it, I bow, that's it, period. So you do so but you understand why people have questions about how it seemed like a story that would be right up your alley and you went the other way. You understand that and that people were so they're wondering like OK so you got that. We all feel for you with that B.S. billion dollar lawsuit that would that was that you that you lost and that was horrible. And so now people are thinking, oh my God, how is he making his money? And is he being compromised now because he's got that billion dollar judgment over his head? And so that's the big question. I think it would go a long way if you could help people understand what the answers are. I mean, obviously I got a billion and a half dollars report with Chuka. I pulled the trigger. No,

43:14 No, seriously, I killed Charlie. Come on, Alan. I did it. I killed him. We'll be right back. My focus has just been wild. My workouts have been so much better. We have the best, Ultra Methylene Blue at thealexshowstore.com. Here's what some of the guests on the show experienced when they took it and Joe Rogan and others talking about my transformation that Methylene Blue's been a big part of. How is Alex doing? He's great. He lost a lot of weight. I saw he's getting like... Yeah, he's ready for the next my friend Sean Johnson's training him. Oh really? Yeah, he gets up every morning He works out for hours. He's lost. I think he's lost 70 pounds at this point. He looks fantastic, man Yeah, he looks fantastic. He looks like he's 20 years younger. I saw Alex Jones and he looks really good does yeah He's losing all weight taking back my health. You're so good That's the only impression I could do Alex looks good. I mean, you know, I said not some way he looks good He looks great. Yeah

46:39 It's really interesting. I almost like feel smarter. With methylene blue, I do notice that it does seem to give me more mental energy. I knew what that did for me. I knew that it got me up and walking again. And I was having seizures without it. Let me tell you something, what a blessing. It is a miracle. It's been proven for 100 years. It's one of the most well-proven drugs out there. My kids take it. My wife takes it. Everybody takes it. What a blessing, I don't care what anybody says. I know what it's like with it and I know what it's like without it. All right, to answer Jimmy Dore's question, whatever is said in this case because of how synthetic and fake Erica Kirk looks is in effect. And I saw the talking point he put out. Jones has a billion and a half dollar judgment

47:35 He's only on air because he sold out. Okay, fine, that's what it is. No, I have appeals. I have been battling them and in huge lawsuits, and I've been audited and my finances have been published in bankruptcy and I drive a modest car and live in a nice house but modest and I don't have any money and quite frankly Jimmy we close, I haven't really announced this yet, we close finally funny enough on tax day April 15th. The Texas receiver has finally gotten through our legal stuff, blocked our lawyers, is not paying for the power bills, the internet. So the agreement came through this morning. They're gonna quote, do a wind down and be friendly and let us go to the 15th, so we're gonna close. So that's our big Wachuka money. So why is Jones still there? Because I'm fighting, I'm battling the fact that I've survived. I mean, the first kind of really put anti-Newell on the map is the fact that I'm bad. And then

48:32 I go look up the Egyptian plains and the information is super inaccurate. And I say, hey, you're being set up with this. And she says for months, I'm going to release it. Of course, didn't. The Mitch Snow guy, I go look into him. The guy is like an ultra super insane con man they should make a movie about. Like catch me if you can. And people are like, you're covering up for this. I'm like, no, Kash Patel's covering up accomplices. I believe there's a cover up. I'm just simply looking at this and fine. Like I said, water, I smell to 30 degrees, but I saw other people point out she was wrong about that. They got attacked. I'm in Chicago. Fine. It melts at 30. Whatever she says, she can suspend gravity.

49:13 Okay, so I mean I didn't bring this up in fact. It's like mental illness. I I have to stay away from it I just because because I was like well, let me check this God these Egyptian planes well That's not true. Not true. I'm like you're you're you're whatever and now I'm magically being paid by people That's why we're on air no we're in court battles our listeners buy products at the auction store calm That's all a fact But that doesn't matter because you can just say the innuendo and you guys are now the good guys And I'm the bad guy so fine I was paid directly by what's her name, Erica Kirk to kill Charlie. And I did it for Israel under direct orders from Benjamin Netanyahu. And they paid off my billion dollar debt in the fake Sandy Hook cases and everything's fine now, Jimmy. So I confess there, you got me. You're like Perry Macy. You got me to finally, you can't handle the truth. And now I admit it. So is that good? Am I square with you?

50:09 Alex everybody has a lot of affection for you and everybody and you know and so I don't think it's crazy for people to have those questions and wonder, and why isn't Alex Jones leading the charge on this cover-up? That would be right in your wheelhouse. That you would be exposing all the lies and all the stuff and yeah, maybe she's wrong about this. You know, that's how- I specifically broke that Cash Patel was covering up accomplices. Okay. But nobody cares about that.

50:45 Okay, I mean, I don't I you know, that's this is your stance. I wish you well with it but I you know, I I think that the key it's a big deal to find out why Donald Trump's administration is covering up for the assassination of Charlie Kirk I didn't think that connects to the Iranian war you say it what is wrong? I'm gonna break for one minute one stage has been what is my stance? I want to hear what my stance is. No, I'm I'm at you you seem to You're saying that there's a cover up, but you're kind of, I don't know, being patronizing to Candace Owens' claims. And maybe she's wrong about one or two. You know that's how investigations go. If you follow a lead, if it doesn't go anywhere, good, you had to follow it to see if it went-. And my first video to her was this Egyptian plane in Fowey Ran, it's not accurate.

51:41 And I got response back from her surrogates that I am on the Israeli payroll. So I'm a little upset about that. Well, you know, Tucker Carlson said he could confirm the Egyptian planes. So, you know, I- We'll come right back in 60 seconds. All right, shifting gears out of the TPUSA, Charlie Kirk, Erica Kirk, Quagmire. Let's actually go to Charlie Kirk. I got a clip here of Charlie Kirk talking about how horrible Lindsey Graham is, his clip 21 I had on my list today. And yes, I get it that he was being bullied by the Israel lobby, he was a moral man, he was breaking with them. He called me a few times about a month before he was killed.

52:26 He was so nice. I thought it was sarcastic. He didn't call me sometimes, but not a few times a year. He's like, man, thank you for exposing Epstein. Thank you for pushing the White House where they're going for full release. We really appreciate you. You're just so wonderful. You know, such and such. We want to get you at our events. Alex, I'm so proud of you. Can I pray for you? You know, I saw you at that one event. You were drinking too much. Looks like he lost weight. You're not drinking. Oh, God, Jesus loves you so much. Not a fake Christian. I'm like, God, I'm talking to a preacher. I mean, yes, sir. That's great. Thank you. And then, He called me another time about something else. But the point was is that he was, it was me putting pressure on Trump. He thought that was good. He said, yeah, keep doing that. It's having an effect, which I knew. So definitely they knew he was powerful. Definitely they knew he wasn't gonna support total war with Iran. And I guess in the calculus, you could say that Israel could be a main suspect in it. I simply said that

53:25 up front saying Israel did it when I thought there was other involvement to cover up was jumping the gun. We think there's other involvement. Let's find out investigation because that's what I do. Because there's always been this this fetish that I work for Israel. I have not been to Israel. I've never gotten money from Israel. I've exposed Israel and bad things Israel does. So it's just ridiculous. But it's just a way to take an OG and say you're better than them to say that. So that's where that came from. And then a few things I said, hey, we looked into this, it's not accurate. I got attacked. So then I kind of got pissed off about that. And in hindsight, you can't argue with this type of fight

54:07 Especially when you've got all the anomalies and things that get people concerned about the anomalies. So that's why I haven't talked about it. I've just moved on. People can believe whatever they want. I'm trying to stop World War III. Does that make sense? Yeah, if we could stop World War III, that would be a big deal. Do you have any theories on who actually killed him? I mean, the Democrats, there is a trans-shooter movement said, we're going to kill Charlie Kirk. He had a song about it in the town. A bunch of people said he's going to be dead tomorrow. Cashotel killed investigations into that. And so I think they're suspects. I think you could say that you could say people try to claim internally TPSA, you know, because he was might have been investigating things. I mean, it's all my point is, I'm glad to investigate. I just want to go which one where we say who's guilty up front. You could.

55:01 I mean, they're definitely guilty of covering stuff up, but it's obvious that cash Patel the Trump administration is covering They're not even investigating stuff and TP USA has been caught in myriad lies So there and you only lie if you're covering something up, so they're guilty of definitely covering something up So I think the focus should definitely be on the people who we know are lying. Yeah, so Listen, you got, we cover it. You're covering it right now. To me, it gives me a headache because then I have to accept every new crazy thing that like, oh, Candace is like too much snow. Was this person here? Yes. Was this person here? You like, you give it to him and he's like the Oracle. I just, here's your,

55:45 I have people say it doesn't matter if he's a convicted con man, it doesn't matter if he lied about the hammer attack, it doesn't matter. We've got to believe him. He was at Wachuka. Well, no one ever said he wasn't in Wachuka. I just can't do it. I just can't. It's too, I can't like buy into that. And I'm told like you must buy into this. And so I'm like, no, I'm not buying into that. So I'm bad. So great, I'm mad. I killed him for Israel. Netanyahu paid me $10 million. I killed Charlie Kirk. Just it's salt. I mean, that's my only point is I just can't endorse this dude. I'm like, here he is hammer attacking, arrested, convicted, not letting her leave of what he said she did in a podcast. This guy's a liar and I'm bad. Fine. His wife attacked him with a hammer. She killed him with it. Fine. He's God. I agree. Bitch knows God. I give up. You people want to believe it? Great. It's all true. Move on. Believe it. Everything else.

56:33 Okay, I mean, I don't think the investigation hinges on Mitch Snow's testimony. No, he's got no no, he's all he's good. He's right. It's all true. I'm wrong. I'm done That's it. I just can't I can't fix mental illness. I can't get people to see reality It's a separate deal. Of course, there's a cover-up of Kirk. I've been saying that with real information people don't want real information I You think there's a possibility that there was military intelligence involved in Charlie Kirk's assassination? I mean, that could be. It just doesn't happen with 12 colonels a day before at Fort Huachuca.

57:14 Okay, okay. I mean, you know the the maroon t-shirt thing that I mean there's again. There's so many crazy things that happen They don't have anybody watching the security team doesn't have anybody watching the roofs They all get caught lying about what they were doing security wise that there was a drone. There isn't a job. They're protecting me and and It's just nuts right? And so it just seems like so TP USA killed him. I agree. I And they hired me to do it. So just, you win. I mean this doesn't sound like Alex Jones. That's what people are saying. It doesn't sound like. I mean the team USA killed him. It was Alex Jones. Okay. I mean don't you understand? Like, like I'm done with it. I'm not debating it. You guys believe whatever you want. I'm not involved in it.

58:02 And you're done with it because, I mean the biggest assassination in the generation happening live and the federal government is covering it up according to you. No one cares about me breaking the cash patel order to cover up of cobbleses. Nobody cares about the real stuff I put out. They just want to talk about, you know, stuff that isn't real. So I'm just like, enjoy yourselves. It's like the only way to not be insane is not engage in it. It's not- Yeah, I mean, so you don't have to talk about that stuff. Why wouldn't you talk about the other stuff? Why wouldn't you have, I'm sure you have your own suspicions about the case. Anyway, I really don't want to get into a back and forth. You don't want to talk about it. No, no, here's the back and forth. I see every day without even looking, Alex Jones won't talk about the US's liberty. Alex Jones won't talk about the private Federal Reserve. What are they talking about? I mean, films, talk about all the time. So it's this weird thing. I don't know.

58:57 I know you talk about that stuff. I mean, the information you gave on 9-11 was unbelievable. I mean, that's the whole thing. You've been on a lot of stuff. And so that's why people have questions. Anyway, I just, I don't, you don't, you can, you know, I've said this about a lot of people. You can cover what you want to cover. You don't, you can't cover everything. And, but it's just, people would wish that you would, Follow through in a big way on your suspicions and help everybody crack the case on who actually killed Charlie Well, I mean, cracking the case isn't, you know, giving hundreds of thousands of dollars in a GoFundMe to a known supercon. Okay, I mean, okay, okay I mean, I wouldn't make that the focus but... Well, they did though. They said hang your hat on Egyptian planes Hang your hat on Mitch Snow. I went and spent a lot of time and said this is bullshit

59:51 And then I'm a cover, I'm involved. No, I'm not. And it's mental illness. So I'm like, listen, you guys knock yourselves out with your investigations and you do it all day long. I've already said, I think there was a couple of says, I don't believe the official story. And I think cash patel is covering up just like the Butler shooting and everything else and the war and the whole deal. And I'm against it. And I think we're being lied to. And then I just go off stuff I can prove. That's it. And so what do we do now, Alex, that we know that Donald Trump is the enemy and that he was a charlatan and lied, committed what I call it again, the biggest fraud in electoral history that I've witnessed personally. What do we do now? That's the 60, I mean, when you say enemy, we know the Democrats are just as bad or worse. And so- Oh yeah, I agree with you. Actually, I don't know what we do. And that's why I'm so upset. So let me ask you, what do we do?

1:00:48 That's a tough question. I don't know how we could do it doesn't like, you know, everybody says no matter who you vote for, you get John McCain and they just like, you know, when Dick Cheney was famously asked, hey, the American people are against this war and he said so. And I feel like we're in that same situation that Donald Trump does. He's not running for reelection. He doesn't care. And the thing that I would want is for people like Tulsi Gabbard to resign and to use her voice to try to stop this and people like RFK to resign and then file a lawsuit making sure that people who are poisoned by glyphosate and get cancer could actually sue in court instead of what Donald Trump's. So I that's my call. That's one thing we could do. I don't know what JD Vance thinks his political future is. He's going to be tied to this war just like Dick Cheney was to the Iraq war.

1:01:34 So I mean, it wouldn't be a bad idea for him to reside and try to stop this, but he's not going to. So what we could do as people is all we can do is get in the street. But I remember we had millions of people in the street trying to stop the Iraq war, and that didn't make a difference. It's because we don't live in a democracy. anymore. You know we live in an oligarchy which was proven by a Princeton study over 10 years now that your vote really doesn't matter and I don't think voting actually matters on certainly not on a federal level. So I don't know what we can do to stop this but it's going to kill our economy so you think the unions might get together and say hey maybe we have to do an action like the truckers did we have to shut down stuff shut down DC or shut down Manhattan or

1:02:14 the power centers, the economic centers in the United States to try to stop this war right now because that's what we, that's the only thing I think that's going to save the, it's, it's already probably too late. It's probably, this is just going to keep escalating. This is World War III. We're in it. It's worse, I think, than people realize, and it's going to get much, the oil has already doubled. Here's the crazy thing. Think about this, Alex, that Iran closed the Strait of Hormuz, which they knew was going to happen. Now Donald Trump is offering, because now they can't get insurance for tankers to go through the Strait of Hormuz, that Donald Trump has now offered to chaperone oil tankers with the US military, putting them at risk, right? But also, guess where that went?

1:02:57 oil's going. 50% of that oil is going to China. So now Donald Trump is using the US military to ensure oil shipments to China? This is the craziest thing that's ever happened. So I like what Candace is doing. By the way, that's why I like your show, is you always have the facts. We're simpatico. I love Candace. In fact, I felt bad that I went on that whole jag. Her surrogates tagged me. I got pissed because I was from a place of love. And then I went off the rails. That's why I want to just move away from it. But let's go back to what you just said. I have known and witnessed that you can actually get Trump's attention through the media and culture. So, the fact that he's not totally controlled by globalists, what makes horrible decisions a lot of the time, means that we have a responsibility to put pressure on him. So absolutely, peaceful demonstrations by

1:03:46 populist just by left, right, you name it, that gets attention. Us talking about it, us pointing out Trump got lied to, he's starting to back off saying, okay, I'll try to get in the war right now. That's what I'm saying is, is I totally agree with you, is that we need to bipartisanly shut this down right now and So that's what I'm all about is whatever the big current thing is that stabilizes civilization. That's why I want to get you on so you would actually say all these smart things that I think are great instead of just, I'm not mad about it, but just debating about stuff that just is going nowhere. The current thing, whatever happens to cover up, great, find the smoking gun, everything will burn, whoever at the stake. I'm just simply trying to stop World War III.

1:04:30 I'm with you on that and I'll join with anybody to try to stop World War III. I just, you know, not to kick a dead horse, but I just think that, you know, I saw Noam Chomsky, he was asked, hey, who killed JFK? And he tried to dismiss it saying that it doesn't matter. A lot of people get killed. Who cares? It doesn't matter if someone killed. It doesn't matter if it was a foreign country. It doesn't matter, which to me sounded like a deep state talking point. And so I just think that if you dismiss that, it just that it that's what it sounds like. No, you're not listening. You're not listening. That's a straw man. I've said probably 10 times in the last 30 minutes that I believe there's a cover-up. I know that I would talk to people that were in the meetings. But it is important. Do you think it's important? And they ordered a cover-up of accomplices. Then I go run down leads, and when I say this isn't accurate, that's not accurate. It's to help everyone so we cover the accurate stuff. Then I get accused of being involved in a cover-up. Does that make sense? Yeah, OK. Yeah. I mean, I just I think it's important.

1:05:28 that we find out if a foreign country was involved not only with JFK's assassination but with Charlie Kirk's because Charlie Kirk was credited with stopping Trump starting this war last June. But Dumb Chomsky, the Epstein acolyte that loves the aisle and can't wait to get back there, it's not me. I've always said investigate and there's a cover-up. So I never said why we don't care about Epstein. We don't care. I mean, or we don't care like, Oh, we don't MCX alone. Oh, crooks acting alone. Oh, uh, the Kirk killer actually. No, I've been saying I'm the first to say there is a coverup. Okay. I am. I am not going to say that, you know, things that aren't true. I'm not going to say that. No, that's okay. Melts 30 degrees.

1:06:10 I think it's okay to disagree with people. I think that's healthy. I think we should disagree. And that's all I did. And I get people were so mad about the obvious cover-up with TPUSA and the fiasco that anyone then asking any... My point is just because people are doing bad and just because there's a cover-up doesn't mean that we have to go crazy and a mob and lynch people. You understand the difference? Okay. Yes, I think the most important thing now is to stop World War III. I hope someone smarter than me with more influence than me can do a protest. I think that's the only thing that can really...honest to God, this is the Western Civilization, this is the whole world almost.

1:06:48 It's definitely our economy is going to because the petrol dollars going away because of this right and so if we don't have the petrol dollar our currency completely gets devalued which wipes out people's retirements. Trump is deliberately or whether he knows it or not wrecking our economy and I think he finally figured it out which is why he's put the brakes on but let's play that Charlie Kirk clip I want to talk about earlier because I remember I'm talking to you, I've moved on from the Owens thing because I did so much investigation, it gave me a headache. And then I got mad I did it and I was mainly just pissed that I was actually investigating a bunch of rabbit holes that weren't real and I figured it out. I tried to say it's a rabbit hole, people got mad, so I just got pissed. So I wanna go with what's real. What we do know is that since you said this, but I've just moved on from it, I can play the clips and nobody picked up on this but me, or I guess a few did.

1:06:10 I think it's okay to disagree with people. I think that's healthy. I think we should disagree. And that's all I did. And I get people were so mad about the obvious cover-up with TPUSA and the fiasco that anyone then asking any... My point is just because people are doing bad and just because there's a cover-up doesn't mean that we have to go crazy and a mob and lynch people. You understand the difference? Okay. Yes, I think the most important thing now is to stop World War III. I hope someone smarter than me with more influence than me can do a protest. I think that's the only thing that can really...honest to God, this is the Western Civilization, this is the whole world almost.

1:06:48 It's definitely our economy is going to because the petrol dollars going away because of this right and so if we don't have the petrol dollar our currency completely gets devalued which wipes out people's retirements. Trump is deliberately or whether he knows it or not wrecking our economy and I think he finally figured it out which is why he's put the brakes on but let's play that Charlie Kirk clip I want to talk about earlier because I remember I'm talking to you, I've moved on from the Owens thing because I did so much investigation, it gave me a headache. And then I got mad I did it and I was mainly just pissed that I was actually investigating a bunch of rabbit holes that weren't real and I figured it out. I tried to say it's a rabbit hole, people got mad, so I just got pissed. So I wanna go with what's real. What we do know is that since you said this, but I've just moved on from it, I can play the clips and nobody picked up on this but me, or I guess a few did.

1:07:37 You now have Netanyahu and other Israeli firsters and Mark Levin saying, you think you'll beat us? We'll take you out. We'll get you. They have made physical threats in their eight front war saying we'll take this all the way. So I didn't want to say Israel was the main suspect. But a few months ago when they made all those threats, I did videos saying, no, I think Israel could be a suspect now because of these statements, the eight front war. And I learned more about what Charlie was saying, sorry, I wasn't super following Charlie Kirk. That's where I was saying, no, this is real, but then they didn't care. They went, oh, you're trying to salvage yourself Mossad agent now that you're blah, blah, blah. No, I don't know. People all the time call and say, why aren't you covering this? I didn't know about it. I'm not on the present. And so remember the clips like,

1:08:25 All the Jewish lobby like threatening people, you better watch it, we'll get you, we'll take you out. When I saw that, I did reports, that's when I was finally done. And I said, okay, maybe Israel did kill Kirk. The Owens people attacked me more at that point. I was like, okay, I'm done. I'm just like, this is cuckoo town. Does that make sense? Sure, sure, yeah. Nobody likes to be attacked. I get it. Well, it's not that. I'll be attacked for something like, I don't want to go to war with Iran, Trump's wrong, it's clear cut. But when it's this weird fever dream thing, you know what I mean? By both sides. Does that make sense? Let's, yeah, let's, can we watch that Kirk clip about Lindsey Graham? Yeah, yeah, yeah, here's a clip, here's a clip.

1:09:09 Let's do some updates about Israel and Iran and potentially the United States. On one side is the Lindsey Graham, John Bolton types, where they are actively calling for regime change. Here is Lindsey Graham, and this is just lunacy. This kind of analysis is not helpful. This kind of approach, this kind of argument, it says nothing new with nuclear weapons at this point. This is now that We want to go all in and take out the regime. It's time for us to close the chapter on the Iranian Ayatollah and his henchmen and start a new chapter in the Middle East. That sounds good, doesn't it? But what have we learned when it comes to wars and especially wars in the Middle East? What you draw up on a whiteboard rarely happens. What you think theoretically is going to occur

1:10:07 There might be unintended and unforeseen consequences, especially when you're talking about a country two and a half times the size of Texas. It has 90 million people and was an ancient and great power with well over a dozen ethnic groups. You have underground Christians, you don't really have many Jews left in Persia, but also you have secular younger Persians. Who's gonna run the country exactly, Lindsey Graham? This sounds like Hillary Rodham Clinton in Libya. So I'm pointing to the first extreme right now, the neoconservative extreme. The we must go take off the head of the snake right now. Play cut 285.

1:10:49 Be all in, President Trump, in helping Israel eliminate the nuclear threat. If we need to provide bombs to Israel, provide bombs. If we need to fly planes with Israel, do joint operations. But here's the bigger question. Wouldn't the world be better off if the Ayatollahs went away and replaced by something better? Wouldn't Iran be better off? It's time to close the chapter on the Iranian Ayatollah and his henchmen. Yeah, that would give them a motive. And now the Israel lobby said, we'll take you out. You conservatives, you think you'll survive us? We'll take you out, said Mark Levin. So yeah. Okay. There you go. My point was, is that I had to wait to see all that to understand it. So I'll, uh, you know, understand and say that I think people would think that have a reasonable view, Jimmy door.

1:11:42 Yeah, it's reasonable. It's most likely. I think there's no doubt. I mean, it's their MO. They're the king of false flags, Israel. They're the king of assassinations. And so it just makes sense. And to have Netanyahu come out and deny that they were involved in it twice, it sounds like me thinks they'll protest too much. It was obvious they were protesting too much. So I think there's a direct connection. But I think the most more important thing right now is is to find a way to come together and stop World War III. Tucker's doing what he can do. You're doing what you can do. I'm doing what I can do. Candace is telling people not to enroll into the military. And if you're in the military, try to find a legal way to get out of it.

1:12:24 I agree with that, I endorse that. I meet at my shows, I meet ex-military people all the time and now their job is to go and de-recruit people. You know how they send the recruiters into high schools and colleges? They go into high schools and colleges and tell people don't join the military. So ex-military people come to my shows who do that all the time. So I'm with Candace on that. I think that if the military, and I understand, I already read reports that the military is upset with this, that they don't want to be doing this. Oh yeah, no, the chairman of Georgia's staff told Trump no do it. Well, that's the thing. A few months ago, they were saying Trump can't have National Guard, you know, protect federal bases. No, that's constitutional. So I was defending it when they were saying, don't follow legal orders. Now I'm saying, don't follow legal orders. Terrifically drop nukes. We now are in that place. It's totally insane. Here's Lindsey Graham just yesterday, just salivating, bombing and destroying, play the clip.

1:13:16 You just wait to see what comes in the next two weeks. The next two weeks meaning what? We're gonna blow the hell out of these people. This regime is in a death row now. It is gonna be on its knees. It's going to fall, and when it falls, we're gonna have peace like no other time. We're gonna have prosperity unlike anyone could ever imagine. Peace brings prosperity. You can't do it by talking. The Democrats criticized this operation. They didn't do a damn thing. These men and women in the military should make us all proud. And then he says, oh, support the military, support me. What? He is so demonic, Jimmy Dore. You know, when I hear him talking about blowing the hell out of people, I'm thinking maybe he's not talking about bombs.

1:14:05 Anyway, because it is literally they're on their knees to these blown there and they're on their knees. I'm like does this guy I Do not hear yourself Lindsey Graham. No, he is evil. He's always been evil He the only time he's smiling is when we're killing innocent people and creating chaos and havoc The world's terrorists are the United States. We've set the entire Middle East on fire now twice in 20 Listen I got a few more minutes on the side. I'm letting you go, but I'm going to do your show too. But do I want to come back and help you finish up with this Jimmy door.com. We'll be right back. I'm here to announce a new, extremely exciting product at the Alex Jones store.com. And that's mind fuel brought to you by the same folks that developed optimal human. This is an optimal human product.

1:17:26 And he survived assassination, he went through all that stuff and I think this is Trump trying to survive. I'm not defending what he's doing, but I think that's basically where we are. But we move past Trump, I would love to reform the Democrat Party. I would love to see a new party. I would love to, you have the, Save Act they won't pass is incredibly popular in Congress just to make you have ID to vote So I don't see the corrupt giving up. I don't see the good guys giving up. I see a real clash in Civilization coming. What is what does Jimmy Dorsey in closing? Well, there's gonna be chaos because of this war right and it's a chaos inside the United States. I think it would

1:18:08 You know, when the Wall Street crashes and our economy crashes, that's what causes chaos. That's what'll get people in the street. And what I hope happens is that, you know, they say, oh, the left, right, we have a lot in common. We have to come together and oppose the oligarchs. Well, the left and the right did come together, but they came together at the top of the parties. They all agree on the worst stuff. They all agree on horrible wars and they all agree on keeping us from healthcare and they all agree on crushing workers. And so I hopefully that this crisis that is being caused by Donald Trump's actions with Iran will cause the people at the bottom to come together and realize that it's always been a lie, the left-right divide, that we have more in common that divides us and we share a common enemy. And the common enemy is the WEF globalists that Donald Trump is serving right now with this war. This is what, this is,

1:18:58 We have a so that's what I hope happens. That's the only thing I think can save us if we all come together But if they we keep fighting with each other over Anything it's that's a win for the oligarchy. That's a win for the establishment So we I say your your neighbor is not your enemy your neighbor is hurting Under the same oligarchy that you are hurting under and so we need to come together and oppose them and so hopefully because it's I I don't see, again, I'm not an economist, but it seems obvious to me that this is gonna crash our Wall Street, it's gonna crash our stock market, it's gonna crash our economy. The oil prices are already doubled right now. Things are just gonna keep getting worse. And if the petro dollar goes away, which it looks like that's what's gonna, I hope Trump can do anything to stop it.

1:19:46 But again, if he doesn't, we all need to come together because things are going to get a lot worse in the United States once our dollar is no longer the reserve currency of the world. Well, I'm proud of populist conservatives, call us what you will, that we're not slavishly following Trump when he starts breaking his promises and doing wrong like Democrats to a great extent have been. But that's been the sickest part is watching him go after Musk, MTG, Thomas Massie, now myself, Tucker Carlson. that we're Qataris, we're foreign agents because I can play the compilations like you can, in fact after you leave I'm going to play the Trump compilation again of him saying everything I'm saying. So we're for that Trump before, we didn't think he was perfect but he was better and he wasn't ever Trump, he has changed and

1:20:32 I mean, I'm sure you've seen the clip. He came out yesterday and said, no, we're going to shut this down very quickly. It's going to be over very quickly. I mean, I think he's seeing the pressure. Like you said, this needs to stop immediately. And I love, you know, Rabbi Shmuley's like Alex Jones just wants money. That's why he does. You know, he wants to not have oil prices go up. If oil prices go up, it derails the recovery. All the economists agree we're on the edge of bankruptcy. People of the third world starve to death energy prices go up. This is about civilization is about me getting money It's so dangerous Jimmy and that's why you know a foreign countries are already trying to Quietly take their money out of US Treasuries, and that's why gold is skyrocketing right now gold is like doubled

1:21:16 Since I bought it two years ago. It's and the reason is because people don't have any faith in the US currency anymore And they're so they're taking it out of US treasuries, which is why the treasuries are now paying a higher interest rate than before when you buy treasuries, so it's anyway, so they'll I gun owners, non-gun owners, they're wrecking everybody and I think that is the key people fighting each other so we don't come together and we have to keep that in mind. They're gonna keep doing things to keep us fighting each other and to keep us fighting our neighbor and that is always a distraction. Chaos always favors the establishment and when you're hating your neighbor, you're not putting your energy where it should be which is at the people who are really pulling the strings and controlling both of us. Absolutely, but Trump just saying

1:22:20 He's gonna shut the war down soon made oil prices start to drop same gold and silver Of course, they'll go back up because the basic industrial need I mean do you put any faith in him now figuring out that he was advised wrong and stopping this war? No, again, I have hope. I don't have faith in Donald Trump. I have hope and because I got to have hope. Otherwise, I'll go nuts. And I'll you know, I wake I've been waking up since the war started with anxiety in the morning. I way worse than normal. Put it that way. And so, no, I don't I don't have faith in Donald Trump. I have a lot of anxiety is never about

1:22:57 like cerebral, technical stuff, it's gut level and it's always accurate. Because I don't like, you know, see a bunch of news and get it, no, I can feel it. You feel it too, right? Yes, 100%. Yes, and this is different. This is different than Iraq. This is different than Syria. This is different than Libya. This is different than Afghanistan. This is, and with the stuff that's already happened, it's changed the world. All right, thank you for the time. Final question. I keep saying final question. As bad as the Republican Party leadership is, targeting true MAGA and driving them off. What are the Democrats going to do? That zombie Gavin Newsom, Kamala's talking about running again. You've got just, Hakeem Jeffries looks like an evil jack-o-lantern. I mean, what are they going to do? I mean, they're like, we look at the Republicans, look at the Democrats. I mean, they're just like a zombie operation.

1:23:50 I mean, the problem with the Democratic Party is they're supposed to be a left party, but they're not a left party, right? So they're pro-authoritarian, they're pro-war, they're anti-worker. They shut down that railroad strike during Biden's presidency. They crushed it, which would have changed later. labor nationwide and they stopped them from getting power. And so they crushed that union. So the Democrats, there's really no point to a left party that's in bed with Wall Street. The Democrats serve Wall Street, they serve big pharma, they serve military industrial complex, big insurance. So you can't serve Wall Street and serve workers at the same time. Those are diametrically opposed to each other. And so the Democrats just give lip service to the workers and

1:24:36 it's we have to you know right wing parties in america we don't know there is no left wing party in America. I've stayed true to my left wing values and I've been called a right winger. Now it's right wing to be for free speech. Now it's right wing to be against censorship. Now it's right wing to have bodily autonomy and reject experimental medical treatments are being mandated by the government. Now it's right wing to be against the Ukraine war. It's the craziest thing I've ever seen. So there is no left party. The Democrats right now are not They're controlled by the same billionaire class. So the billionaires try to pretend that they're warring against each other, but we all know they all work together. They all have the same, as George Carlin said, they have the same agenda and they do have the same agenda. So we need to wait. So the Democratic Party is not an answer to that. I gave Nick Fuentes a hard time when he said we got to vote Democrat and stop this.

1:25:27 And it's like, yeah, we're going to vote for the other deep state party controlled by Israel and the PDF files. And so it's just I don't think that's an answer. And I'm not voting for either of those parties. I haven't for a long time. But voting doesn't make a difference. It doesn't I don't think him look everybody thought they were voting for Donald Trump was gonna be a peace candidate Everybody thought it would vote for Donald Trump was gonna be bodily autonomy and rain in the poisons We're getting putting in our food and and he's going to make free speech again and get rid of DEI and none of those things are true The exact opposite happened And so I don't, again, I would ask you what's the future of MAGA? Because almost every MAGA influencer I know has soured on Trump, but there's still, according to CNN, they said that Republicans are supporting Trump. But I think that poll is bogus because a lot of people aren't identifying as Republican right now. Let's be clear, there's a giant populist movement against the establishment. Democrats are still seen as more established than Trump, but Trump is losing that

1:26:30 the near very quickly. And I just think we become issue oriented, populist oriented, and we just move forward. The fourth turning Sierra, the establishment could try to bucket, but they're going to fail. They're swimming against the tide. But I'll just say this to end this as it was some fun. It is true. And it's not a weird factoid. I just make up. So it's so funny. It's something I got to tell. I've had two men spit in my mouth. Okay. And, and, and, and, and, and I've had Jimmy door At the 2016 RNC when I crashed the young Turks, he spit iced tea like a spitting Cobra right in my mouth. I'm like, oh, that's iced tea. So I've had, yep, that's just true. And Willie Nelson.

1:27:11 Now, Willie Nelson hung out with him a lot, played chess with him, hang out. He would smoke these big marijuana volcanoes. I'm not a big marijuana guy, but I smoked marijuana with him. And he sits there and he's got a ball and he sucks on it like he's an astronaut in the right stuff. How long he can do it, he goes, he hands it to him, his spit dripping off, and it's Willie Nelson, so he go ahead and do it. So hey, you're in quite the elite club. I've had plenty of women salivate in my mouth, two or three probably. The point is though, Jimmy Dore, That, this is kind of gay. I mean, you have, you've literally, you literally like, like a, like a frog grabbing a bug, a bullfrog grabbing a bug with his tongue. Were you intending to hit me right in the mouth with your spit?

1:27:51 No, no, I wasn't intending to hit you right in the mouth. I don't know what I was intending to do. I was trying to diffuse the situation and I thought maybe you would go run for a towel and try to get out of there. But it was chaos and there was no security and I was afraid things were going to keep escalating and nobody wanted that. And I didn't really know much about you at that time. And, you know, since I do and I'm impressed with you know the prescience you had around 9-11 and all that kind of stuff, but especially that so Again, it's funny, but you're quite an elite club though. I'm honored to be in that club and I'm sorry that that's how I had to get into the club Jimmy thank you. You're on that where people find you Jimmy door calm or else

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