MUST-WATCH WEDNESDAY FULL SHOW: Biden DOJ Caught Illegally Spying On Alex Jones, Trump Admin, MAGA Leaders, Lawmakers & More! PLUS, Oversight Chairman Demands Bondi Nullify Biden’s Autopen Pardons & Executive Orders After Investigation Delivers Proof of Puppet President On A “Silver Platter!” Nick Fuentes Responds To His Ultra-Viral Interview With Tucker Carlson, And Breaks Down Why It's Time For The America First Movement To Come Together! FINALLY, Top FBI Whistleblower Kyle Seraphin, Trump Lawyer Robert Barnes, And Roger Stone Join Alex Jones To Break Down Exclusive New Arctic Frost Developments! — FULL SHOW 10/29/25

00:00 The government fears Alex Jones, who has the largest audience in the country, bigger than any of the networks, the biggest megaphone in the country. The deep state hates Alex Jones with a vengeance. Alex Jones is the most extraordinary person I've ever met. It's Wednesday. October 29th, 2025. We just caught the globals with their pants down. InfoWars, tomorrow's news today. Well, we're now entering the 282nd day of the return of the American Republic and the fireworks and the sparks are a-flyin'. And we just had the ultra-massive hurricane smash into Jamaica and then Cuba.

01:00 Haiti, the Dominican Republic, that island formerly known as Hispaniola. A lot of death, a lot of destruction. Certainly pray for those folks. Monster Melissa direct hit Jamaica held bent at 185 miles an hour. Mass destruction, storm of the century. And this time it's not hype. We've actually, since the late 90s had the slowest hurricane seasons on record. But the media still hyped it up and lied about that. Said, oh, global warming, record storms. No, 185 miles an hour is a typhoon. Now, typhoons are in the Pacific and they turn the other direction, just like toilets turn the other direction, you know, water going into a whirlpool, all deals with the gravity and the Earth's spin. But typhoons get up to 185. I've never heard of a hurricane hitting 185. And that was picked up by sensors all over the place. So that is not hype. That is the big

01:56 Now it's broken up quite a bit and slowed down, but pray for those folks because that is a devastator. We've got more of the footage of the carnage and all of it, unfortunately, coming up. But yesterday afternoon, our great morning host and investigative journalist, Fox News, you name it, Brianna Morello, is calling Rob Dua, cuz she works early in the morning and leaves by about 1. And she says, hey, I just got this from the DOJ and I was just getting off air. Hasn't broke yet. And I just got this from Jim Jordan's committee via Senator Grassley's committee. I gave it to her literally first, so dialed in she is. And Alex is listed in here in Arctic Frost. Remember it was the eight senators and members of Congress, now it's more senators. But here's what we did. I talked to a couple different FBI sources last night and this morning off all the codes.

03:02 that are in this huge hundreds of pages of documents, this is just some of it. And it's all scrambled with codes and blacked out. But FBI agents that are in key areas, because it's all compartmentalized, know how to read what these mean. So I was told that it meant it was a giant dragnet, not just January 6th stuff or question the election, oh, how illegal is that? Because they knew we were innocent of actually trying to attack the Capitol. They were the ones that did it. The Fed's erection, the Democrat staged a false flag. No, it was for stocks and bonds and money laundering and gambling and drugs and it's everything. They sent these orders out under Jack Smith to all the FBI agents, all the FBI field officers of the country, and they said, find crime.

04:04 And in my case, this is the one case we know because I don't know about all these other individuals. They did not have a warrant for the contents of my quote cell phone that is listed they have here. Now we know how they got it through their Justice Department, Democrat Party lawsuits against me and the rest of it and then handing that over to Smith. But the point is, is that this broke yesterday through Infowars reporter and Pentagon reporter, Brianna Morello. Then about an hour later, Jim Jordan indeed released some of the documents and all the documents last night are all in the new tranche. And it is a giant illegal dragnet against members of the Senate, the House, Trump's orbit, journalists, you name it. Just scandal of scandals, absolutely illegal. It'd make Richard Nixon blush. We'll be right back, stay with us. Welcome to this Wednesday, October 29th.

05:11 2025 transmission. I am your embattled host Alex Jones. This broadcast is going to be particularly historic. Overhead shot please. Look at who we have as guests today. Investigative journalist Brianna Morello with the latest insanely important groundbreaking bombshell developments in Arctic frost. Nick Fuentes on all the big world developments taking place and the aftermath of his gigantic Tucker Carlson interview. Constitutional lawyer Robert Barnes on the waterfront. FBI whistleblower Kyle Serafin. Roger Stone. That's quite the lineup today. Now, as usual, and I get it, they're very busy, the House Judiciary Committee and the Senate Judiciary Committee was grassley.

06:24 have come out and said, it's terrible, Arctic Frost, here's all these new documents we're releasing, hundreds of pages we have right here. Turns out they were spying on Trump's law firms, people in Trump's orbit, in some cases without warrants in my case. And then why is it up to us to actually go read the codes in here of what the investigation meant and break this? I'm not saying, we're so smart. No, it's the opposite, it's frightening. It's worse than what they're saying. It's not just a J6 dragnet to find us doing something wrong on J6, that of course didn't happen so they could never charge us. It is a dragnet for stocks and bonds and gambling and money laundering and anything they can find to all the FBI field offices of the country. That's exactly what Ed Martin months ago said, is that Jack Smith wanted to put thousands of Trump supporters in prison.

07:26 But obviously because him being in the Justice Department, they couldn't release that information. It had to go through Congress and now we're getting it. And of course, Ed Martin is all over the document, Steve Bannon, myself. But so far, and I'm sure there's others, I just don't know their particular details. I am the only person listed here out of 150, and I'm in the main top 40, that are the main targets for the document, where there was no warrant to obtain not just phone records, but my text messages and more.

08:05 And I remember fighting their subpoena on the J6 fake committee. It was ruled to be fake and illegal, they had to pardon themselves. They committed all those crimes, falsifying evidence, rigging, testimony, all that. I told them, back when I testified to them, somebody answered your questions, taken the fifth not because of self-incrimination, but because you're criminals. I looked at Adam Schiff and I said, you're a crook, you've already been caught faking emails and witness tampering. And I said, you're gonna go to prison. Notice they destroyed my testimony and 90 plus percent of the other testimonies. They didn't like what I said. They didn't like it one bit. I told them, you're crooks, you're behind the attack. And of course, it's all come out they were, Nancy Pelosi, all of them. So I wanna go through some of this. I'm not gonna spend the whole day on it. I'm gonna pop in with Brianna Morello on it, who broke it, was first to get it. And then I'm going to speak some with Kyle Serafin on it, who's an expert, former FBI agent, understands this. But I called him to get his expertise on this. He said, listen,

09:10 That's important, I'm happy to, but he said this other thing that's going on, this is what you need to know. They got rid of the one FBI agent who was at one level over Arctic Frost, but his boss is still there, so we're gonna spotlight this creature here today. And then Roger Stone, so much more. Nick Fuentes coming up next hour. This is a broadcast you don't wanna miss, and remember, you're the Paul Reveres, so be sure and share the live feed from Rumble on the Alex Jones Network feed.

09:50 Share the live feed from Relox Jones on X, the backup feed at AJN live for Alex Jones Network at AJN live. We'll put that link up on screen for you at AJN live on X. And know that they have appointed a month ago, the receiver from the state court and the receiver was here two weeks ago and here most of the day yesterday and is deciding when to close the doors. So I don't have any details of that, I don't know. He said it could be two weeks from now is the quickest, Christmas the latest, what a Christmas present. And I don't blame the receiver in the thing, he's not the corrupt judge, he's not the kangaroo court, he's just doing his job, I'm not gonna be mean about that. Plus it's like talking to a robot, so literally the guy's like a robot, nothing against him, it's like talking to a little robot. So that's where we are, we fought, it exposed the corruption of the system, we're gonna go on and fight even harder.

10:53 But this is all the Democrat Party, DOJ that ran this, that controlled this, that did all this. And they tried to use the bankruptcy process to do a fake auction to sell it to Bloomberg and The Onion and shut us down and did all the rest of their crap. And I can tell you though, you add this new Arctic Frost information where you have Jack Smith involved with the Sybil case against me and the Democrat Party, the DOJ was running. We caught them, that's how they got the cell phone, which they couldn't get by subpoena because I beat it. There was nothing in the phone, didn't do anything wrong, but I just as a matter of conscience and a matter of honor, I didn't comply with them. And so I did tell them if you want me to sign a sworn statement, my lawyers reviewed my phone from that year and that there's nothing there.

11:52 And I would say, if you just want me to pull things that say J6, I said I might comply with that cuz there's nothing there. We didn't do anything. Us trying to stop people going in the building, all the rest of it. But I said, no, you're not getting my whole phone and my sources. Not happening. They're like, well, we're gonna indict you then. And they did indict me in DC. Even The Washington Post reported this a few years ago. And then Merrick Garland said it's too political and killed it. Not that he's my buddy, it was just from The Washington Post that, well, He was like, well, Jones is up there on top of truck. It wasn't a truck, it was a pile of chairs saying don't go in the building and they killed my indictment. So that's how intense and how crazy and how just out of control all of this has been. And the only reason I'm still alive or on air and not in prison is because of your support and your prayer and of course, in the final equation, God. So I'm very, very thankful.

12:52 for all of your prayer, your word of mouth and your support as we're all in this together. But it's not just the FBI agents I talked to, and you can hand put in these codes and find this yourself. The codes, most of it's blacked out, the latest Arctic Frost stuff, I'd say about 60%, still a lot there though. But you feed it into ChatGPT and say, what are these codes? What does this say? And ChatGPT tells you mass drag net for any crime of any type, not related, Alex Jones targeted politically, Alex Jones innocent. I mean, it's just crazy to have Grock and Chad GPT saying that. Cuz what's nuts is I'm talking to FBI agents, they're telling me the same thing. And they're just beginning to process it and you can shove it in the computer and it tells you this stuff. Now if you ask Chad GPT who George Washington was, it'll show you, at least it used to, a black man. So it's got his political correctness and so does Gemini and Google, but still amazing when it's not being tainted.

14:00 So this is beyond a scandal. And then you've got the auto pen on top of that, on a silver platter, the absolute corruption. Most of the cabinet officials wouldn't even see Biden but once a month or so, every few weeks. You had a committee, that's why Stone's coming on. We played it a few months ago, the archivist found it right when Biden was president elect. Roger said from my sources, a alternate White House, which they admit they had headquarters for Obama, about a mile and a half from the White House. And they've got a committee that's gonna run everything by auto-pin. And he had that from inside. And now years later, we have the chief of staff going, yeah, I don't wanna go to prison. Yeah, I was getting $4 million bonuses if I did this. Yeah, we'd go to the committee and decide what bills to sign and what executive orders. And then this committee of Hillary Clinton and Obama and Jill Biden and

14:58 a few other chief aides. And sometimes you wouldn't be able to get Obama or Hillary on the phone, so their aides would just decide. Turns out two signatures of Biden in the record have been found to not be auto pins. So this was an illegitimate coup d'etat. Well, yeah, they stole the 2020 election, that's all been proven. Tried to put you in jail if you questioned it or investigate it. Ran the hoax over and over again that no evidence ever found, none of the courts would hear the evidence.

15:37 Bill Barr was running around behind Trump's back making sure they didn't. So it's been delivered to them on a silver platter. So here's Jim Jordan speaking a little bit about how wider this Arctic frost dragnet was. He's talking about how wide the dragnet was, but it was a dragnet for any crime. And again, the massive takeaway is hundreds of Republicans targeted, patriots, people that the bad guys know are hardcore, they can't be bought off, can't be intimidated. I mean, it is a badge of honor to be listed. I mean, and to always be on all the lists. I mean, it's just, but I mean, that's what I signed on for. I said 30 years ago, I want to be like John Hancock. I'm signing it big and bold, not because I'm looking for trouble, but if you're going to sign your own potential death warrant, why not sign it big and bold? If you're going to go, go hard. The universe works. God doesn't like cowards, folks. And so my problem is I don't have fear anymore. I had a little bit of fear when I was a little child of watch a monster movie with the, over your neighbor's house.

16:40 I remember being like eight years old when cable first came out. We didn't have cable, the neighbor had cable. And I'm watching Alien over there with the babysitter. I'm just like, this is scary as hell. And then like I saw The Thing a few years later and we had a Labrador retriever. And in the movie, the alien's taking over the husky and it kind of transformed him. I remember like, look at the dog at the end of my bed who I love. I'm like, you're not going to turn into a monster, are you? But I haven't had fears since I was about 10 years old of any really type. It's actually kind of a problem for me. Because it's good to have a little fear to be on your toes. But now I just have focus and anger and dedication and anger that I'm not strong enough, angry that I get run out of energy, frustrated that I can't crush the enemy better. Now I still have fear at the edge of a cliff or whatever.

17:33 They have this awesome place in Big Bend in the park called The Window and you hike about three miles down and it's this opening all carved by the water and wind, all like solid granite, marble-like. You can get right up to the edge and just put your feet down and be hanging out over that thing. And that'll give you the willies. But I'm not saying, oh, I'm tough, I don't have fear. I have resistance to failure, resistance to being a slave. It's worse than fear. I become disgusted and my brain feels like a ashtray or something. I feel dirty. I feel pathetic. I kind of like fear compared to that feeling. Instead of just like electricity shooting through my brain, just, yeah, but I get you all the time. And I sleep at night when I get up in the morning, it's just fight, fight, fight, fight. Then I see other people that don't even seem to be awake. I feel sorry for him, but I'm digressing and I'm gonna stop preaching. So here's a clip from Jim Jordan. There's another one

18:44 Representative James Comer demands Pam Bondi take steps to invalidate all of Joe Biden's pardons and executive orders signed by auto pen because under the US law, it's illegal. You can delegate, I agree with this law, I'm on a helicopter using auto pen. And they had to create a note of it when it was said, when it was done, and that's attached to it. You can't just say, oh, I'm at the beach. I don't even know who I am. You guys do whatever you want. They admit it was a committee. We didn't elect that committee. We didn't elect him either. But this is cut and dry. Here's both the clips. Then with Jack Smith, what we've learned is it was much broader. much more expansive than we ever thought. And remember, this is the same Jack Smith who put the gag order on President Trump, who raided his home. This is the same Jack Smith whose two deputies came in front of our committee and took the fifth 71 and 73 times respectively. This is the same Jack Smith who we already know spied on eight United States senators. Now we learn all this. And this is why we want Jack Smith in front of our committee in a deposition format after

19:43 after we get the documents and we can ask him some of the same questions we asked his deputies that they took the Fifth to. Like a simple question, was this a political operation you guys are running against President Trump? I exercise my Fifth Amendment liberties. How many other members of Congress did you spy on? I exercise my Fifth Amendment liberties. Those are the kind of questions we want to ask Jack Smith and see what kind of answers we get from the guy who ran this whole operation. Yes, and I think that the DOJ needs to take this and run. John, we've handed this to Pam Boddy on a silver platter. We've done all the heavy lifting. We've done the depositions. We've combed through the emails. I mean, this is the hard, tedious work of an investigation. Now it's up to her

20:23 to bring these people in. If there's anything in the report that's inaccurate, if there's anything in the deposition that we reported that are mischaracterized, now here's your opportunity. to try to defend the other position. If not, then the report is 100% accurate and the pardons need to be declared null and void immediately. I would go further, but now this is me, and I would hold some of these people accountable for misrepresenting the president's health and for abusing their power as a bureaucrat in the White House that was essentially forging the president's name.

21:06 I mean, you could ask a lot of questions. I know some of the people that were pardoned from Kentucky, these are wealthy Democrat donors. We heard from Jeff Zients that Hunter Biden was in the room where the decision making was taking place on the pardon. Look, I don't think we need to say any more on this show about Hunter Biden being in the room with pardons when people have the potential to maybe be paying for pardons. We didn't go that route. We just try to look investigate the auto pen and the president's health and mental fitness. But I think the Department of Justice could go a lot further. I mean to have Hunter Biden

21:45 in the room talking about any pardons. I mean, that's pretty bad in itself. But a guy that we proved, John, and you all have reported on many times, was taking money from our adversaries around the world, peddling access for his father's position as Vice President of the United States. Having him in the room when you're issuing thousands of pardons with the auto pen, I mean, that's That's suspicious in itself. Have you ever heard of a signing bonus or a performance bonus if the president wins re-election, his advisor gets a check for 4 mil?

22:25 Yeah, it's outrageous, Jesse, but it really does raise the question, who was making the money here? Because here's the thing I noticed about Comer's report. Hunter Biden is in a bunch of these meetings. Now, Hunter Biden doesn't go anywhere where there's not money involved. So I just want to know, like how many Hunter Biden paintings, how many masterpieces did Anthony Fauci have to buy in order to get his pardon? What about Liz Cheney? Like, what did she have to pony up in order to get her part? I mean, you know that there's an angle on this thing. Follow the money. Somebody's making a lot of money here. All right, ladies and gentlemen, thank you again for being here with us today. Remember you're the Paul Revere. Share the live feeds. Tell folks at the local radio stations, tell those you share the feeds with to share it. Tell them to share it with those that share it because that creates the chain reaction, which is a big deal. The biggest deal.

23:17 Now, I'm gonna go to break here in a few minutes and I'm gonna come and get it into the actual documents of the new Arctic Frost information. This is the coup d'etat, another big peace summit against America. This is the illegal dragnet. This is the persecution. And this is the entire FBI turned loose with literal bounties to put us all in prison, including yours truly, and to find any crime. And they couldn't find anything. It's like they can never get any Trump even low level to take money from the Russians. They tried to get me to take money from the Russians and I went and reported to the FBI because it was the FBI and CIA doing it. And that's a sealed piece of information. The FBI knows about it because we went in there and we told them stop it. So this is terrorism against the people, but they couldn't find one Trump defender, talk show host, lawyer, administration official to be unpatriotic. They offered me 3 million.

24:34 I said I know this is a setup right there on the spot. They were shaken and they couldn't find one person in the Trump administration to do the same thing. They even use sex ops, hot chicks on people. Not even a piece of hot ass could get people to sell out. But with the Democrats, just wall to wall criminal activity. In the old days, Republicans maybe committed about 10% of the crime. It was here and there, it was usually because they were pedos. Now the new Republican Party, 98% clean.

25:13 He got Lindsey Graham with his war foundations and gets a bunch of USAID miners, a few others. Mitch McConnell, super corrupt, Chai Com agent with his wife. But Justice is catching up to them and her sister. But this is a new sheriff in town. And the Democrats are totally evil and corrupt other than Federman who's smart enough to jump ship. And a few others, I'd say they're not 98% corrupt. And the Republicans are 98% not corrupt, but about 50% wimps. About half of them are still wimps. I'll take though that over the Democrats and we're going to continue to reform the Republican Party. So what I'm telling you is I need your support. When you support me, you support your own future, your own rights, your own liberties. You're crazy if you don't share the feeds of the show. You're nuts if you don't share the articles and videos. Seriously, those of you that do, you're awesome. Those that don't, we're in this together, let's go guys. But

30:44 We have all this exciting stuff. We tend to go about 19 hours a day live once they can't attack anything I build. When I'm working for somebody else as the news director, it's going to be spectacular. We're going to have folks with us like Brianna Morello, who is a seasoned She started out in Major League Baseball coverage and then she's been on Fox News, Newsmax as a reporter, as well as various local news outlets. And she has got so many incredible contacts. Her tenure as a Fox producer was brought to an untimely end due to principled opposition to New York City's COVID-19 mandates that stand for medical freedom and personal liberty. Today, she continues her commitment to truth and fearless reporting as an independent journalist.

31:27 and the host of the American Journal dedicated to voices and stories often overlooked by the mainstream. She was already a frequent guest and filling in for us. And it's great to have her here at Brianna Morello on X. And let me tell you, this lady has got the contacts. She broke yesterday, an hour and a half before the Judiciary Committee released the information, Jim Jordan. One of the biggest bombshells yet, and there's been so many from Tulsi Gabbard and from these committees, both Grassley's committee in the Senate and Jordan's committee in the House, Arctic Frost and Crossfire Hurricane, but now giant hundreds of pages of Arctic Frost. Jim Jordan, committee released this with Jack Smith, not just going after lawyers and people involved questioning the election, which is totally illegal, but going after Steve Bannon, people like Ed Martin, people like yours truly without a warrant getting my cell phone contents. And now we fed this into chat GPT also check with two FBI agents.

32:25 because so much of it's blacked out. The codes though tell you what it is. They threw the kitchen sink. This was money laundering investigations, gambling investigations. This was insider trading investigations. This was FBI field officers nationwide told don't look at January 6th. They knew they'd staged it. They knew we didn't do it. It was find something on them and they came up with again zero Just like Russiagate, they have got a real problem with Trump's Republican Party. Because you may have some cowards, you may have some dummies in there, but I mean, you got Jasmine Crockett just got caught with secret stock portfolio. She never declared that she's still running, felonies out the ass. I mean, that's just who they, and they keep thinking like, Trump, you're involved in mortgage fraud. Meanwhile, Letitia James is a master of it.

33:13 So Brianna Morelos, thank you so much for being here. I wanna get your take and perspective on this. I'm gonna show what ChatGPT and Grok both said when we fed this document through it today. Again, I checked with humans first, then I wanna see what they said. And the AI said the same thing. This was a giant dragnet looking for everything, including the kitchen sink, and they found nothing. Yeah, they found nothing. And they were accusing those within the Trump administration, close Trump allies of being criminals. When in fact that wasn't the case, they could have made anything stick. One would have thought it would have been something like these charges that they were trying to bring about. But they weren't able to do just that. A lot of these names that were dropped in the Artic Frost document dump that came from the Judiciary House Committee yesterday. Chairman Jim Jordan's drop yesterday outline everything we've kind of already heard about so far. But we're learning more about what Artic Frost was doing, who it was targeting specifically.

34:05 We're learning it was much wider. It was much, much wider, potentially 111 new names of people they were trying to go after. I even saw Harmey Dillon, her law firm was wrapped up into this as well. A lot of these individuals were getting their financial records grabbed up by this so called special prosecutor. Now, interesting enough, Alex, your name was dropped in this. I think that's the key point to this. I talked about it on my show, Barack Obama, when he was occupying the White House, He targeted journalists to find out who their sources were whenever they were covering something. Well, they say Alex Jones's cell phone contents. Yes. Target, it's all a target system. Correct, and we're gonna find out more about that, specifically what did they send over? I look forward to digging into that as well. But it's about, well, were they trying to target your sources? Were you working on a story? They wanted to see who was Alex Jones speaking to, because again, they went around very creative. Well, I know they tried to subpoena it, and there was nothing to hide, but- Yeah. I checked actually yesterday, we spent over 20,000

35:00 It took lawyers back and forth hearings in DC, $20,000 plus to beat the subpoena. And I said, cuz I'm not giving them, it's not, cuz they wanted the whole thing. And I said no, so they just somehow got it. Well, Alex, I actually, and this is a little off topic, I had the same feeling when I was working for a company. And they were being sued by an election systems company. And they were asking all of us to hand over our personal devices so that they can make forensic copies. Now, I didn't do so. And I went about getting an attorney to make sure I didn't have to do so. But that's what they do. They do just this. They try to go about obtaining your records and to bring it into the federal government. That's what always my gut feeling was on this front. These big Democrat Party law firms, Paul Weiss, all of them, they use other civil cases to vacuum everything up and they hand it over to the DOJ illegally. Yeah, that's what they do. Total civil rights violation. Total civil rights violation. You can't even defend yourself at that point. You can't even say, hold on a second, I don't want them getting access to that.

35:56 Let me try to put an end to it. Now we see this as it was outlined throughout. Let me just drop some names that popped up in yesterday's document dump, by the way. It was Mark Meadows, Steve Bannon, Scott Perry, Rudy Giuliani, Jeff Clark, John Eastman. And then there were other potentials like you mentioned, Ed Martin, Jeff Rosen, Bernard Kerik, who sadly is no longer with us. They were all listed in this new document dump as well. That's the former New York police commissioner. Yes, and he was working hand in hand with Rudy Giuliani during their state to state election challenge back in 2020. So I'm sure it had to do with that. They weren't happy that Rudy Giuliani was hired by the president to go out there and try to defend him on his election stance and all of this. And Bernie Kerik was by their side and all that. So that's what they were doing. They were going after the attorneys.

36:37 And this is just not about President Trump again. I wanna make this a bigger picture too. Yes, this was a wide net that they were trying to cast here, but they wanna make sure moving forward that if you ever have as a candidate want to challenge an election, that you will never find a lawyer willing to do just that. Well, Norm Eisen and all of them when Trump got reelected said any lawyers work for Trump, we're gonna take your license and put you in prison when we're back in. Yeah. So they're openly like thugs, hey. You Americans, you sit down and you shut up or it's over for you. Yeah, and they did just that. I mean, they sadly have bankrupt Ruly Giuliani and that is just upsetting. And they even went after his World Series Yankee rings. I mean- Well, they did it to me. Yeah, yeah. As you know, it's the lawfare that's unbearable. And so many people are fighting back on this front. But again, it just goes to the great lens that they went to now. The key point now that we're learning about all of this

37:23 is how the special prosecutor's office was also utilizing the FBI field offices. There were several interviews that were conducted by the field offices. Now when you're a special prosecutor, you're not supposed to be doing that. You're supposed to be handling all that on your own, but they were again using the FBI at their fingertips and they were using it quite freely. They did cost taxpayers though a chunk of change. For 40 interviews that were conducted, it cost Americans about well over $16,000. So that's what So that's where some of your money went to, of course. It just highlights the fact that they were doing all this. Now, I wanna also highlight Jeff Clark's case because Jeff Clark was working over the DOJ. He was working under Bill Barr. He ran two divisions. He simply was well aware there were election fraud tips coming in and simply wanted to see if the president wanted them to investigate those. And they went after him. He was one of the co-conspirators indicted in Fulton County, I believe. He is also somebody who received an FBI raid.

38:18 They tried to embarrass him by pulling him out of his home. They did so much to this man. They're still trying to go after him through disbarring him in Washington, DC as well. This document clears him as well, because it says that there was a letter that was suggested to potentially go to Georgia, which outlined the alleged election fraud that they had outlined. And that President Trump didn't actually want him to send that letter and stopped it there. So again, he was listed as a co-defendant, I should say, in that Fulton County case. They knew all along that Jeff Clark never sent that letter and he wasn't accused of any actual crimes, but they still went after him. They're still going after him today.

38:55 Well, here's just a microcosm and I'm writing myself into this. I'm not like Hunter S Thompson where he did it on purpose. It's because I'm a witness, I've experienced it. They subpoenaed all my phone records, all my everything in the fake Sandy Hook lawsuit. She never said what they said I said I was found guilty. I gave all my lawyers my cell phones. They went and grabbed all the data out. One accidentally sent a year of a phone. That's how they later got it. There was nothing there. But there was a few text messages from Joe Rogan saying, how's the Sandy Hook thing going? And I said, oh, it's all a bunch of bull. It's okay. It's lawfare. Now that was it. They use that to start trying to subpoena him behind the scenes, harass him, threatening him

39:35 And they basically even said to him, well, don't have Alex on and we'll leave you alone. So my point is, this is the DOJ using this whole thing to find any names they can to then harass other prominent people. It's stalking. This is all industrial level criminal stalking. Yeah, well, they probably didn't want you to go back on Joe Rogan's show as a massive platform. People that normally might not want to tune into Infowars will tune into Joe Rogan's show and they don't want you to reach that audience. So yeah, I'd say that it's a massive a first amendment violation as well. The free speech angle to all of this and trying- Well, just imagine it's 1960 and you're Martin Luther King. There were cell phones then and the KKK sues Martin Luther King and gets his cell phone. What are they gonna do with his cell phone? They're gonna harass everybody in his orbit. That's basically what this is. Yeah, it's a bullying tactic, right? Cuz they're gonna say, well, look what we did to Alex. That could be you next.

40:25 And if Joe Rogan wasn't a good friend of yours, he actually might fall for something like that. Yeah, no, he told me about it all and everything else. But yeah, he was just like, geez, what the hell is this? Yeah. So they're like literally calling up threatening him and his lawyers. It's just so infuriating, right? Cuz Alex, they're not doing anything to prevent this from happening in the future either. I mean, what have we done to make this a preventative so this doesn't happen to others? The Supreme Court not weighing in on your case either, which I think was actually a disgrace to our country. Because the reality of it is, is Alex, so much has started with you, censorship started with you. And they started censoring you and saying, you said some things, and they use that as a valid reason to push forward. And then everyone else, that net started widening, and everyone else who was critical of the COVID jabs.

41:02 And they said this in 2018, they said when they don't stand up for Jones, these are an official white papers from Democrats. We're gonna go after everybody, but that's another microcosm of that. Like last year, Aaron Rodgers is on Rogan and And says Alex Jones didn't even say the things he said about that. But even if he did, he has a right to say it. Those law firms went out and said, Aaron Rodgers, we're looking to sue you, F around, find out. So Aaron Rodgers just defended me and they threatened him. Again, it's pure thuggery. Yeah, it is. And it's totally egregious. By the way, the lawyer that did that is the former US prosecutor whose specialty is putting innocent Republicans in prison in Connecticut. Yeah, I mean,

41:41 I mean, no surprise there. These are what these people do. They're hateful. They've got the system figured out where they could figure out ways to go after not only you, but those who defend you. And I think that's disgusting in itself. But we can't get into it in full record, but you've got a lot of DOJ sources. They think they've gotten away with it. They haven't. Yeah, yeah, well, they haven't gotten away with it. And I think that's the key point in all of this. We know behind the scenes has been a lot of disappointments in regards to the AG and the deputy AG Todd Blanch now Again, we've tried our very best to hold the DOJ's feet to the fire on going out there and holding key people accountable. And so far, we haven't seen much movement on that. But Alex, we're not gonna stop anytime soon. We're gonna keep pushing for this because this all needs to be looked into. This doesn't end with you, Alex. This continues on to others.

42:31 Alex didn't really even say that. What they say he said he has a right. They're like, watch out, son of a bitch. We'll get you to him. And they're just pure thuggery. Yeah, it's free speech too. He could say whatever he wants to say. They just don't want him to say it. Cause once somebody like, like Rogers comes out and says something, he's got obviously a very big platform as well. People in the sports world love him dearly. Uh, they don't want your message expanding. They've been able to control the narrative up to this point. And if it gets any further, it gets out of control. They can't do that. So yes, I think that's disgusting that they did that in the first place. Well, who's vindicated on not taking the shot? Brianna Morello, Aaron Rodgers or Anthony Fauci? Yeah, thankfully, I mean, not taking the jab. We're all functioning, we're doing well. I feel bad for those who didn't listen up. I tried my best to save people, Alex. I mean, I literally was citing your work.

43:17 Dr. Naomi Wolfsburg. People don't remember that, you got fired over this. Tell people what happened to you. Yeah, Fox Corp actually pushed me out. I was over there, they had actually moved me down under the phone call that I took a few weeks before. Well, I went from, sorry, I went from Florida to the New York City office. I moved up technically. And I was told, no, no, no, we wanna get you in. We'll get you to produce Tucker Carlson's show once the slot opens up. So don't worry, just make sure you're in the area. We need you here. And that was the agreement that we had originally had agreed to. It wasn't until the day I moved in, I got a message forward to me from someone over at Human Resources saying if I didn't take the jab, due to the New York City private sector vaccine mandate that I was gonna be put on unpaid leave. Then it also incentivized me to take the jab for a couple of $100. They were gonna throw me a bonus if I got the jab by their deadline. Now, obviously I didn't do either. And I had my suspicions because I was- Remember the mayor, I'll give you a burger. I didn't go with the burger either. I get a Anna Frye.

44:10 So creepy. So creepy. It's like hit the clown, stick your arm in here, Georgie. Yeah, no, but that's what they, they went to all these insane lengths and you're like, what the heck is going on here? Now I wasn't somebody who read that deep into it, but I figured if you're trying to sell me on this, I probably shouldn't do it. And they didn't have any longterm research into it. And so I got the call that, you know, you could apply for an exemption if you want to. But I didn't wanna apply for an exemption now, cuz I don't think we have to ask our government for permission if our medical background or disclose our medical backgrounds. Or even say what our religion is. That was always something that you could actually sue for in civil courts if your employer tries to discriminate against you in those cases. So, and we knew too, the fact that Fox was

44:48 Pushing this private sector vaccine mandate onto me and to others, they knew that it was illegal because the Supreme Court already ruled that Joe Biden- And now we know it was a purge of the military and everywhere else. They didn't make leftists do it. And Congress exhibited itself. So we only got about 10 minutes left, but I want you to come back soon. You got to get here more. You're knocking it out of the park with the show. The numbers were already great in the morning, but it's huge numbers. You're just totally kicking ass. All the great guests you have on because you're not just an amazing talent and pundit and journalist. You are, I forgot, a star producer. Thank you. Oh, no. I mean, my goodness. You know, you've got I'm telling you, you're figuring the pulse. So. Let me just show, I'm gonna get, after you leave, I've got lawyers coming on about this and FBI agents and people, but just a quick look. If you take this document, the latest Arctic Frost stuff, you gotta be an FBI agent and even most of them don't know it because it's all compartmentalized. Some know this document, some know that. Obviously, they don't teach each area unless you're in that area what it means. And so,

45:42 We fed into Chad GPT and DeGrocq. What do these codes mean? I just believe this. I've checked with FBI. That's what it means. They looked at stuff you'd expect obstruction of an official proceeding, conspiracy to defraud the United States. Okay. Mail fraud, campaign finance crimes. So they're targeting members of the Senate and House. and state lawmakers with campaign finance crimes. are

46:36 a in other states. This is a total political attack, just like Ed Martin said six months ago, because he was already seeing all this. Now it's gone through Congress, so it's been released. This is insane. And again, what scares me is I'm sick of us always being ahead of the curve. It scares me. I don't want to be the guy. I want to break 10% of the stories, not 90, but you and others. It's just weird we keep doing it. Why didn't others think to stick this in chat GPT or call the FBI? What does it really mean? Because it's got codes all over it. This is not just spying on their political enemies for J6. It's a huge criminal dragnet looking for everything with all the FBI offices taken off real crime, human trafficking, fentanyl to this. This is a damn scandal of scandals. Holy Toledo, you talk about weaponization. This is the holy grail of proof here.

47:38 Yeah, Alex, it is and this is why it's so important for people to be outraged by this. Because what they were looking to do is to go after these politicians, to say that these politicians were gonna charge you with all these crimes. Well, they were gonna blackmail them, they were trying to find something, that's this was, sorry, go ahead. Yeah, no, exactly, that's what they were going to do. But they came up dry, didn't they? They did, well, because there weren't real crimes committed and they couldn't even cook those up. I spoke with Enrique Tarrio once he got out of prison and Tarrio told me that the DOJ tried to slide him a deal where he had to admit that he somehow some way was communicating with President Trump through someone third party to orchestrate January 6th. Now, cuz Tarrio didn't do so, he was slammed with a 22 year prison sentence. That's likely what they were doing here. They were going after all the key players close to President Trump. They came to Roger Stone and said, we'll drop all this if you just say Trump was working with WikiLeaks. Yeah, and that's exactly what they look to do. And that's the reason why they're stacking up those charges

48:29 They're going after everyone who's close to President Trump. I mean, people who haven't even actually been near President Trump were indicted in that RICO case as well in Fulton County. These are people who are just simply door knockers who didn't even know the president. They wanted everyone. The law fair to keep in mind, they subpoenaed a lot of those attorneys their finances. What were they looking to do? Well, obviously see if they could find a crime. But most importantly, see how much they could fight the law fair that was gonna come their way. People like Jeff Clark, Rudy Giuliani, the goal was to bankrupt them and they wanna see how much money they had to fight. It's a multifaceted attack. And then when they subpoena them, they get everybody else's records and they attack them. Then if they can't get out of the show's records, because I fought him, I've just fought 100% flamethrower attack. Nothing against Giuliani. He's old, smart guy, great guy, but he caved in and bankruptcy in six months, three years with us. I mean, with me, I'd just say,

49:16 I just say, literally lawyers are like, you're spending 95% of the money that you would get. Just total war, attack, attack. Because I know the long game's the key here. But notice everything that's come out now, more, and now they're all under criminal investigation. Yeah, the investigations aren't over dumbasses. And it's so we're closing in we're winning. I can feel it. Yeah. Well, we have to win this because again, it doesn't stop at Alex. It continues on. But most importantly, they can't win the battle. You cannot allow them to win this. The conquering of InfoWars is what the goal is. And so they could wave their flag over the building. But the reality is, is the audience has been so incredible over the years, Alex, to support you to keep this fight on and going and funding it. Let's be clear, exactly. The audience aren't an audience, they're activists. They are the info war. I mean, I'm not just saying that to pat you on the head, folks. You're it, baby!

49:59 You're trying to put me in the game. I'm saying I'm putting you in the game. Yeah, and that's what's so key about this, folks. If you don't have the funding, Alex, to fight these fights, it's gone. It's over with, and then they win. So the fact that we're able to still drag it on, still keep this ball rolling. Exactly. They want us shut down. People say, oh God, all this money. They come to me in court all the time. They'll tell my lawyers, why don't you just give up? It'll be easier. Give up and let you rape the country? We get it's a long war. George Washington lost the first five years of the war, won in the last. It's about perseverance. It's about going to the end. That's how you win. Yeah. And all the key players are going to have questions that they're going to have to answer. I mean, we're getting to the point where we've got some great people on our side who are looking into all of this. Exactly. People that say it isn't moving quick enough. It didn't move an inch the first time it's moved a thousand miles. And we got 10,000 miles to go, but guess what? It's moving. Yeah. And I'm pressing all the key players in all of this to see who can help us out. So we'll continue to fight.

50:52 Well, here's the good part about it. People now realize it's a death battle. More people realize this isn't like a hobby to fight tyranny. So that's why they're going to lose. Good is finally waking up. It's over. It's going to be rough for us at the tip of the spear. They can destroy us. That'll scare everybody else, but they don't understand. When Santa Ana wiped out the Alamo, did that make the Texans give up? The opposite effect. Yeah, well, that's the other key thing here too, Alex. I mean, you just talked about to how Joe Rogan and Rogers, all of them were jumping on board to help you out and just talk about what you were going through. I think that we've seen over the last few years that people who weren't stepping up to the plate are finally are because they realize that this is just isn't a fight for Infowars, isn't a fight for you. This is a fight for everyone throughout this country right now. And so many people who weren't in there from day one, I think are jumping on board now to help you out.

51:37 Well, we're all in this together. I mean, literally when Trump says they're not trying to get me, I'm standing in the way, they're trying to get you. That's the truth. It is the truth, yeah. And to me, we know of hundreds of investigations, you know there's others, they've never found anything. I'm actually, but you know, normal people, there's so many legal good ways to make money. I don't even think about how do I run a scam? How do I get away with something? That's a criminal brain. You study criminology, we don't have criminal brains as Christians and populists. And so it's like, we don't ever realize how evil they are because we think they're like us. And then they think we're like them. It's a weird thing that happens. Yeah, yeah, and they're trying to take us out. The reality of it is too. I mean, we announced I got access to the, I'm getting access to the Pentagon. We announced that last week and we made the announcement and all of a sudden all the corporate media heads are coming after me trying to find any flaw to go after me and to try to get those credentials yanked. But this is what they do. They are evil, Alex.

52:34 Hold on, that was the subject I wanted you on last week, but you were too busy. I know, sorry. You gotta come back on in the next few days. We'll just do five more minutes ahead of Nick Fuentes. Be sure we post on X that Nick Fuentes is coming on about a bunch of stuff. I like Nick overall. I'm taking the woodshed on the style of love. That's something I didn't know. I think he's just trying to be contrarian. But seriously, we're about to go to break. I want to come back and talk about that because... The White House came to us, we had a correspondent the first thing. But back then they still controlled it, so they didn't go to the independents. Now it's great, now you see real questions getting asked. So they'd already come to us, hey, when are you gonna send a correspondent, when, or whatever. But then the Pentagon obviously respects you, they came to you separately and want you up there, which is great. We totally endorse it and love it, and hope you're here most of the time, we can host up there remotely. But they flip out

53:20 My god, we will be inside the Pentagon. Hey half the Pentagon's already listening dumbasses We were in the Pentagon. Yeah They think if they keep you out of the Pentagon that's some kind of victory now, of course the Pentagon only wants you in there more I would imagine yeah, and we were breaking stories without access to the Pentagon. So we'll just keep breaking more but but you're not not blocked from the Pentagon. You're going. Yeah, we're going. Yes. It's beautiful. We'll be right back. Harrison, I am so excited to talk to you. I want to plug, uh, the Irish steam off with a big game changer for me. I've had, was having a lot of like thermo regulation issues, like morning, severe chills and cold in the morning. Oh, let's stop with the steam off. Is it the thyroid issue? And this, uh,

57:44 All right, just to finish up real quick with incredible investigative journalist, Brianna Morello and host of the American Journal, weekday mornings, 8am to 11am, right before my show with the American Journal. Now, Harris has moved on, doing a fabulous job with the War Room. We could have correspondents in the White House. They already invited us. We had them before. We could have it in the Pentagon. We are bid in bankruptcy. We don't have the money. Okay. And so when Owen quit, we were able to, with the money we have, you know, bring another host. She's doing a great job. So, to the left in the Washington Post attacking everybody else, my God, an evil InfoWars connected person in there. The Pentagon, half of them are listening right now. The White House Situation Room listens to the show. Everybody's got the show up. Steve Bannon has it up. The idea that you guys are keeping us out of something, you wouldn't sign the agreement to stop not wearing badges and wandering into classified areas.

58:36 And so it's good for them to bring in new media. And I'm hearing independent media ask such incredible questions, the Gateway Pundit, Lindell TV, Newsmax, all of them. And so I can't wait till you're up there. You're still gonna be hosting here, double duty. But getting into them going completely ape over this and throwing a giant temper tantrum, showing even the Washington Post and others don't even know how this works. So tell us about it. Well, they keep calling us like MAGA reporters or journalists or influencers making our way into the Pentagon. The reality of it is, is I have been actually fair when it comes to criticizing the Pentagon and they know that. But I reach out for comment before I have an opinion on something just to make sure it's true. And there's been a couple of times when the mainstream media has put something out that's been inaccurate. I don't believe it.

59:33 trying to call me a conspiracy theorist, even though I've broken some of the most important stories. And I have a corporate media background, but most importantly, I ditched all of that and was able to make it somehow on my own. They don't like that. The fact that I was the first one who had the go-home as a talk about Chelsea Gabbar being added to a terror watch list. I broke that story, even told her team that she was added to the terror watch list for TSA. They didn't do that. The corporate media outlets had it before me, but they were too cowardly to report it because they didn't want to piss off the Biden regime. But I went forward and moved forward and reported that. So I have no problem being critical though of the current administration as well. So they're not doing this to kiss butt with us. They are doing this because they want new faces in there. Now we've been discriminated against when it comes to the First Amendment under the Biden regime. I'd send emails.

1:00:14 They never would respond to my emails. I actually have two lawsuits I'm personally paying right now against TSA and the Veterans Affairs for how they targeted J6ers and so much more. I actually just won my TSA lawsuit, so we're almost done, gonna close out that one soon. But the reality of it is, is the Biden regime violated our First Amendment rights when they didn't give us access into the Pentagon, into the White House, and into other agencies. So they wanna sit there and they wanna cry about us now having access. Well, truth be Truth be told, we should have had access a long time ago and they never spoke up on our behalf. Also to add this, as somebody who worked for Fox and was forced out of Fox Corp because I refused to take the jab, all of the mainstream media outlets, pretty much all of them, took money from HHS. The Biden regime gave them money to promote the jabs. They never disclosed that to their audience. They only had positive coverage of the jabs, never

1:01:03 Never gave them any of the medical background dangers of the jabs at all. They slanted their coverage. So when it comes to credibility and journalism over these last 10 years, I've done a hell of a job so they could piss off Alex. Well, you have but again, they're the dinosaur media that's discredited acting like they have the credibility. They say somebody's not credible. Everybody knows. Oh, they say you're not credible. You must be and again. The government has all these factions and groups, some good, some bad, some evil, some lazy. I get constant thank yous from the White House and the Pentagon. When I spotlight something I think is a problem, they go, hey, we were putting pressure on this, thank you, can you do more? There's good guys in there, good gals. We're there, we're all working together for the truth. People respect you when you expose real corruption that even ferrets out stuff of the Republicans. That's what we're doing. We are trying to purify ourselves here.

1:01:53 People understand that this isn't about taking score or political parties, it's about fixing the country. Yeah, and I didn't need access to the Pentagon, never asked for it, never needed it. We just now have it. Which is great, I have got that as an independent journalist and I'm honored to do just that. But the reality of it is that I've been breaking stories without access into the administration to the current and previous. And so this is only gonna help us out significantly. Brianna Morello, Brianna Morello on X at Brianna Morello, incredible job. We'll see you tomorrow morning, 8 AM Central American Journal. Nick Fuentes straight ahead, share the live feeds now, now, now, now, now. Trump doesn't want you eating bugs, he wants you eating ribeye with lobster with him. Trump doesn't want big giant wars. That's stupid.

1:02:34 No, Klaus Schwab and King Charles and Barack Obama want you eating bugs while they eat ribeye because they're feudalist, greedy, hateful, demonic trash. And you don't hate them enough. And you don't support the people fighting for you enough. I'm not saying that to everybody, but in general, you don't detest these people enough and you don't love the people fighting for you enough because if you loved yourself, You would understand these people have a predatory hatred of you and your family. Just look at them. Look at Kyra Starmer. Look at Macron. Look at these people. Look at Hillary Clinton. Just look at them.

1:03:16 Look at George Soros. Look at Alexander Soros. Look! Their actions are pure evil and they look like serial killers or something, because they are. Did you let Alexander Soros babysit your daughter or son? Married to Uba Abedin, the pedo handler? For wiener, it's bad hombres. El Diablo, that's the bad man right there. Your cells know that's an enemy. Your skin crawls and they know your skin crawls. They hate themselves and they hate you. They're projecting their hatred of themselves onto you. Well, guess what? I love myself and I love you.

1:03:58 And Trump loves himself and he loves you. I love you, they hate you. Now start loving yourself or start being a slave. God, it's so simple. Well, you can say what you want about Nicholas J. Fuentes, but he's definitely on the cutting edge of culture. And I think what he does is very healthy. Because the left and the ADL, the Southern Poverty Law Center has become ultra super anti-Christian, anti-Catholic, anti-white.

1:04:39 And the answer to that is not groveling to it. The answer is saying, I'm not going to kowtow to your brainwashing and I'm going to call you on what you're doing. That's the antidote in the Uberton window. Doesn't mean I agree with every cheeky or edgelord comment that Nick engages in, but I find Nick very entertaining. I've known Nick nine years and liked him at first, thought he was smart, whatever, but I think he's matured a lot. And so you can't judge him for what he's doing when he is way more polished and less hateful in his delivery than Hakeem Jeffries or any of the Democrats, the ADL, Jasmine Crockett, any of it. You just can't say, well, this is terrible.

1:05:26 When he on a scale of one to 10, there are 10, he's like a five. It just doesn't float. And the way to counter radical hatred and garbage is not running up a white flag. That said, I always want to show the rabbit trick here. Okay. I'm not a magician. I show the tricks. And so I, in my perspective, and I think Nick's overall agree with it, I know what he's doing and I think it's healthy. But that that's not the angle I go with I go always with 35,000 foot view and I've Nick's always done that some too But I've really as I'm a fan of the show. I watch it large sections of it almost daily quite frankly I get up at 4 or 5 a.m. So I can't catch it live sometimes I'm waiting around for it and don't get to see it but I am a listener and as soon as the Tucker Carlson interview dropped I

1:06:16 sat there and put my eight-year-old daughter to bed and then watched two hours of it, watched the next 30 minutes of the morning. And it was just, it was powerful. There was a few things in there that I don't want to spend the whole show debating, like Joseph Stalin's good person things, because I'm quite the historian. Nick's not a slouch, but I, we'll get to that. But I don't want to miss the forest for the trees. I want to cover a lot in the next hour and a half with him. I've had all these other big guests we've got. I want to do his reflection on the Tucker thing and what it's like, you know, after the big beef with those guys, where that's going. Uh, and what he thought about visiting Maine. So cool up there. And then I want to get his take. Cause I, I, I follow a lot of, but I didn't really know his take on Venezuela. I totally remember this take on Venezuela. It's a real estate, not a neocon tag. A lot of idiots don't understand that this is American doctrine. This is back to what we're supposed to do. I want to look at that.

1:07:08 Not to talk about myself in this, but it's a big deal. We get the Arctic frost documents yesterday, hundreds of pages without a warrant. There I am being totally surveilled by these people, which I already knew. And that was my point to Nick months ago, because we don't talk a lot on the phone. We text a couple of times a week and maybe every few weeks talk on the phone for a few minutes. He's not a big phone person just like I'm not. But I've called him a few times over the years and I've said, listen, let's say the Republicans got their problems. We got a beachhead there. I said, the Democrats hate your ass. They may act like they like you as Chris Chastain Trump. You've been targeted. Bill Barr, the documents came out three months ago, specifically on a list of only like 13, 14 people had Nick above me on the list to be destroyed.

1:07:50 Okay, when he was working for Trump and then after Trump didn't know. So I'm just simply saying that you know who's really bad, who's trying to totally put you in prison. And so I think we can reform the Republican Party, at least we have some shot there. There's no shot with the Democrats, they are rotting, they're beyond rotting. And so we can talk big picture about that. It doesn't mean we'd go along with bad elements of the Republican Party. It means we got pull here to actually turn them the directions we want. So why not be more optimistic and get what we can get out of something? It's not a lesser of evils. It's being a realist. So there's that anywhere else he wants to go Nick great to have you on rumble at Nick J. Fuentes Thanks for joining us on this live Wednesday, October 29th 20 25 transmission Hope everybody watching on X on their platform shares the link because that's what it's about to be a Paul Revere as we battle the 1984 system with the spirit of 70 76 But I threw out five or six topics there. What do you want to tackle first? I mean, maybe we should do Tucker Carlson first

1:08:48 Yeah. Yeah. That sounds good to me. We could get into that first. Well, I don't know how I got the credit for setting it up because I mean, I do deserve the credit actually, but, but no, I mean, I think you, you'll get in his grill and then, you know, him calling me and what your number and then you guys talking and me and me saying, you know, Nick's misunderstood. I think you're wrong about these things. I mean, yes, I was the catalyst said you really need to interview him, but I don't know how that was ever discovered because I didn't, I didn't say that I was the catalyst. I wonder how that got out. Well, you did tweet about it. You did say a couple of weeks in advance, you said it's coming. The interview is coming and trust me. So maybe that's why it was trending when is Nick on? And I said, okay, I guess I let the cat out of the bag. Yeah. So maybe that's the case, but no, but I appreciated it. Yeah. I think you're kind of the bridge or the mediator. And you know, you had just talked with Tucker before and

1:09:40 I know you have a good relationship with him. And I think you recognize that maybe we were talking past each other. I think you were uniquely situated, not just to understand but also to maybe arrange this. You understood that Tucker Carlson's America first, I'm America first. Maybe there's a generational divide. He's from the institutions, I'm from the outside, I'm from the wilderness out here. And I think that you recognize that there was a big opportunity for us to deescalate this. and not go for the jugular with each other and actually just have a productive conversation about where we legitimately disagree. And part of that is you need to actually press the flesh. You need to sit down and get to know the other person and talk and identify what each person actually believes and what you're about, what each person is really about. And that's exactly what we did.

1:10:29 We got dinner on Sunday night and we met for the first time ever. And we had talked on the phone over the summer, but very briefly. So this is the first time that we really sat down, got to know each other. We spent a few hours together for dinner. I thought we had a really fun, great conversation. I think he got an idea of who I am. I got an idea of who he is. Of course, things are lost in the transmission when you're in translation, but also in the transmission when you're live, when you're on a show, when you actually get to meet the person, you get the real measure of the man. as we got to know each other a little bit. And then the following day, we had our discussion as everybody has seen and commentated on. And I think that what took place was a real conversation. It wasn't scripted. It wasn't a, contrary to what people say, don't think it was a softball, but it also wasn't a hit job. It also wasn't an ambush.

1:11:18 I think he asked some challenging questions. There are areas of disagreement, but we talked about it. We talked about it openly and directly. And where we didn't understand, we asked for clarification. And there were times, I don't want to say it was contentious, but we had some real disagreements. And I think the conversation was productive because We're able to ascertain exactly what the disagreements were. And we were each able to kind of say something about it. So I'm really glad that it happened. I think that it's a huge step forward towards unity. Because like you said, the 35,000 foot view, the big picture, especially after Charlie Kirk was killed. And I say this on my show, people can feel however they want about the actual assassination, who pulled the trigger, who was behind it, if there was a conspiracy. That aside,

1:12:05 Everybody on the left celebrated this. So people could say, well, it was organized crime. Well, it was a foreign government. Well, it was this out or the other. OK, be that as it may, thousands of left wing people celebrated that a young guy got shot in the face for talking about his views. And he was extremely moderate. And so I think that is really the context where you look across the way at somebody like a Tucker from my perspective or vice versa, or someone like a Matt Walsh, or maybe even for many people, someone like yourself. And they say, I think we actually have a lot more in common between ourselves than we do with the left, the neocons. We really need to unite and stick together.

1:12:43 Sometimes it's gonna be awkward and sometimes it's gonna be uncomfortable. And there's egos and there's differences of opinion and that happens. I mean, that happens when there's men involved. But I think we're starting to see the contours of a new movement taking shape, which is the legitimate America First Movement. And the timing was interesting. Tucker did a really big show about that just the other week with Marjorie Taylor Greene. I thought he did a wonderful job fleshing out what the America first pillars are. And to me, those are going to be the guidestones going forward. So and I want to talk about that, but but Greene is a microcosm or not a microcosm, an example of what happened to you.

1:13:19 You're just a libertarian, Ron Paul, pro-America guy, and you're working over at the Daily Wire and all this, and they come in and try to indoctrinate you into Israel, take you there, make you their slave when you're just mildly asking questions, and you then on a journey become radicalized, as you would call it. Same thing with Green. They started bullying her over the last few years and saying you can't ask questions, and then now she's come over to you because of this behavior. And then you gotta ask, why does Netanyahu do that? Why does he create so many Nick Fuenteses? Yeah, which I thought was an interesting question. And the more that I thought about it, I sort of realized if Nick Fuentes were president or Tucker Carlson were president, he wouldn't like that. Netanyahu would not want someone like me to be in power or anywhere near power. So you could say- That's an understatement.

1:14:12 Yes, to say the least. But I heard this sort of this insinuation that maybe Netanyahu prefers someone like me over someone like Tucker, let's say for example. And I would say that to the extent that that's true, I seriously doubt that. But Tucker says that's the case. I think the reason that maybe the Israeli right sees some benefit out of me is as long as they can control the conversation. As long as I'm on the outside, as long as I'm yelling and screaming from outside the club, and I have no real chance at getting any real influence or power, they're very comfortable maybe with the idea that I could be used as a bludgeon to cancel people, make people look bad, something like that.

1:14:54 But I don't think they realize the gravity of the situation, which is that people like myself are now in the majority. And the conservative movement, as Donald Trump said recently, it's now a liability to be pro-Israel. And that's largely because I was one of the moral entrepreneurs, in the words of Overton, that was first to the party in saying that we have an Israel problem. There's a contradiction. And by the way, your statement that you represent the majority of the party, that is not an overstatement. That is a fact. It certainly is, and especially with the young people. That's the other dimension to it. Maybe less so with the older crowd, but with the young people, it is certainly right, left, and center. The majority share my critique of Israel. And I get messages from people I know all the time, people in college. They say, my friend is really left wing, he's a Bernie bro type, he's a socialist, but he loves your clips because he loves what you say about Israel, and he thinks you're really funny.

1:15:51 That's like a thermometer, that's taking the temperature because of course just a few years ago, well everyone hated me. The left really hated me, many on the right were content with me being canceled. And so I think now that I am clearly ascendant, it's sort of undeniable that I'm bringing the ratings, I'm bringing the views, the young people are with me. Now I think that the pro-Israel side is deeply uncomfortable with this. And so that's why Mark was in. I don't know if they killed Kirk, but I've said you need to... If Nick Foyd, God forbid, gets killed, I would then say the first suspect is going to be Israel. Or some crazy right wing loon that they brainwashed. And so let's briefly speak to this because I saw you talk about this the other day. I don't want to spend much time on those people, but

1:16:35 We have the deranged left that has the mental acuity and psychological historical understanding of a goldfish, but you do have kind of a mindless, as the general public wakes up at mass, there'll be a certain trashy, you know, You know, criminal, mindless undercurrent that wakes up and then all they know how to do is act like complete fools, say the most mindless things that actually discredit what you and others are doing, trying to move the Overton window. And then all they do is then attack and lie and say, oh, how dare you go on to her girls and you know, how, how dare you say, you know, that it wasn't Israel killed Kirk. And now we've said there may be some evidence that we're moving that direction. We're not sure yet.

1:17:11 No, the left said we're going to kill him. The left celebrated it. The left owned it. Regardless, you do have these trans people doing things. So there is all this leftist violence. So the point is, no, they're like top suspects. We don't know yet. And we go there and then now they're covering up the trial. Now it's the biggest gag order ever. Now, Kash Patel shuts down Kirk, foreign intelligence probe, an explosive feud with Trump's counterterrorism chief. That's coming up. We're going to get to this because now I'm not just about Israel, but the whole deal. The Deep State, maybe the RNC had motives, we talked about a month ago. My point is we didn't have the evidence yet, but these people that, you know, I showed up 31 years ago, you've been around over 10 years, that I've known of you before that, when you're a little kid, you're doing shows, you know, 15, 16 years ago. So the point is we have pedigrees, we're known, our names are our names. You're really Nick DeFuentes, I'm really Alexander Emmerich-Jones.

1:18:01 But it's this mob showing up, and I guarantee you we know a lot of those are bots, a lot of those are feds, a lot of those are NGOs. And I'm telling you, that's who they're gonna use to kill you or I or others. So they'll say it's some deranged right winger. I'm very concerned about it. And you spoke to that quite a bit in the last few days because it's really an issue. And I don't like Hitler, and it was an anomaly and all the rest of it. But those people need to know, as this happens and we don't fix this and we go into another World War II mode, which I don't want to happen. All the scum needs to know there's gonna be a night of the long knives for the SA, for the Ernst Roms. Because the street thugs that kind of boil into this, as the aristocracy of a new system sets up, the obvious thing is going to be to cut out the retarded fat. Now I'm using a World War II analogy into all this. Give us your take on that.

1:18:52 Well, I think what you're saying is totally true. And it's funny because this has been a conversation. I'm sure you've been having this conversation on some level for many years, just as I have. I mean, for the past 10 years, for as long as I've been doing the show. And we've called them many different things in my circles. We called it the optics war. And there's been all sorts of disagreements between Wignats and Groypers, Alt-Right and Alt-Light, all these different kind of things. And I guess the way that I would frame it is I would say that I am ruthlessly committed to realizing America first. I'm not here to do a show my entire life. Although if that's necessary and that's what it takes, then I will do that. I'm

1:19:30 I am here because I actually want our people to have power. I want real Americans that believe the things we believe to actually have power and actually fundamentally change society. And I know there's a lot of people that They're not thinking that way. They're not thinking backward of what does it look like 10, 20, 30 years down in the road where we actually have political power, where we actually are the ascendant dominant movement. We have to think backwards from that and think practically how do we get there? What's the roadmap? And I know there's a lot of people that are angry. There's a lot of people that are They're getting red pilled, they're waking up, they're getting all these ideas. And I think that it crosses over into self-indulgence when they wanna scream and yell, they wanna do their best Hitler impression, they wanna get really angry, they talk about political violence. And I get where the emotions come from, but as someone who's been doing this for 10 years with serious and ambitious goals, we have to put the emotions aside, we have to put that sort of thing aside and anybody that is not-. We can't let the retards run the movement.

1:20:32 Yeah, precisely, and we can't let them sabotage it either. Anybody that is dragging us down or getting in the way, they are effectively operating on behalf of the enemy. Well, let's be clear, exactly. Politically, populism, Christianity, reasserters of the West is in ascension, only allowing the dumb, mindless scum boosted by the left Who the left wants violence and the ultra retarded right wing wants it? No, we're winning with ideas of violence is not the answer and they call you a sellout you work for Netanyahu You're a pussy when they're not out doing agent violence. No, most of those are feds That is a setup and that's why they're saying you're an agent of Netanyahu is because on the course we're on we saved the West and these people

1:21:15 For low IQ or others who are bad actors, they don't want that to happen. They don't want us to actually take back civilization. They don't believe in victory. They're victims. They're failures. They don't have the understanding of the second, third, fourth, fifth magnitude order repercussions. They don't have destiny. And so we just have to be sad for them, but realize we can't let a pack of scum hijack our movement. I totally agree. I think we need to make it very clear that what we want to do is win, is victory at any cost. That's what we're about is total victory and we want victory for America first. So me, I have no problem. My goal is not to appease or pander to a crowd of mindless type people like you're talking about. The goal is victory at any cost. And that means being pragmatic and being practical. And it means having, like you said, an understanding of

1:22:03 second, third, fourth order consequences. It means having understanding of how these systems work. So I'm totally with you. And that's why I like to say on the interview with Tucker, my interview with Dave Smith, it's like, when we take power, we don't wanna hurt anybody. We're not cruel or hateful or weird people. And I even don't like the word radicalization. They like to say that I got radicalized because of Shapiro. I think I'm actually the sensible one. What's radical is the mass migration. What's radical is a hundred wars for Israel. What's radical is- I use that term, as people know that term. I mean, I agree. The radicalization of that trying to make you hate your country, hate yourself, hate your religion is what triggered you to change course.

1:22:46 Right, and I understand using in a colloquial way. I'm just referring broadly speaking. People like to kind of take my story and say this poor man was turned into a monster and a villain because he was abused. And my message is always, I was right. I was right first. I was kind of right talking about mass migration, talking about Israel, talking about all these things really from day one. And it's just taken everybody else a little while to catch up. You know, just as it was then as it is now, we still don't have time for people that are sabotaging our efforts. And sometimes they do it through no fault of their own. I think you're right. There is a great deal of maybe there's federal informants or federal assets. I also think there's a lot of people that are social defectives. I think there's a lot of people that are just very emotional. Maybe they're just sort of not very bright.

1:23:33 And unfortunately, we don't have the time or the, it's the luxury to take care of them. We have to decide by them. Well, it also makes them feel powerful to take people who have real names, real track records, who put skin in the game. People come to our houses to kill us. We've been attacked. And then you say, no, they're not real. I am. It's like stolen valor. It's like if you go out and wear a Green Beret uniform and try to collect money at a Walmart and you were never in the military. It's stolen valor is what it is. And so I don't think, and I'm not trying to say I'm tough and I'm great and I'm wonderful, but I got one hell of a track record. You've got one too. I'm the real deal. I got skin in the game. I've left blood on the field. And there's just a bunch of people that are just as bad as the left that want to point at the strong man in the arena and sit there like a critic and claim they're good when we don't even know who their names are.

1:24:19 They're cowards and they need to be addressed and their anathema and they're one of the biggest problems we face. And they're the people they're going to send to kill us. Yeah, I think that's been the very small minority though. I think for the most part a lot of people that are anonymous, they just don't want to lose their jobs. And so I'm not really against anonymity. I agree, I've done about anonymous people claiming you and I aren't real. When the results you can't argue with. I totally agree with you and that it needs to be sad. But I agree, it's a small percentage of bad actors. And the good news is I think most people recognize that's what that is. They see that I'm on a generational run. They see me with Tucker Carlson and they say the ideas are being mainstreamed like we are winning. And it's a good feeling that the ideas are getting out there.

1:27:19 So I knew that Nick Foyntester Carlson interview was coming up when I was there weeks ago. Tucker's like, yeah, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's set coming up, you know, at the end of the month. And, and, and then I, I worked late that night and so I was really hungry. So I pull into Serrano's Mexican restaurant in South Austin. I go in, put an earbuds, sit there for like an hour. I'm watching the first hour of the interview and then I take the earbuds out, pay, I'm leaving and I get in my car, rolled out of the window. I'm sitting there. And I hear Nick Tucker Carlson and I pull my phone out. I'm like, what's going on here? And a guy in a Ford truck next to me has his windows down with his girlfriend or wife and they're listening to it in the car. That's when you know you're in the zeitgeist, okay? And that happened Scott Sonner. I almost pulled my phone out just to show up. I'm like, it doesn't matter, I'll tell the story. But I just remembered that. So that is illustrative of the great awakening. And the fact that the overdoor window has been moved so far, it's basically broken

1:28:16 And you know my critique, because communist China is making its move. It's huge. There's other globalist interests. Israel's a big part of it. It's been the taboo. It's great that people aren't scared of the taboo. I overall see that as healthy. But what happens now that people are so anti-establishment that they don't believe anything they're told. But also a lot of the public, we were just kind of finishing up with that, have woken up but they still don't have any depth or context to understand it. Because like you said, you were a little kid like I was, studying politics, loving it, being attracted to it. What happens to people that are just now waking up in this? And how does that paradox work where if we had a giant base of people that had depth,

1:28:58 we can really fix things quickly. But it's also very explosive to have a huge awakening and then a bunch of people not distributed around the world that don't have any political understanding or even how to gauge it. Well, it's a really interesting question. And it's something actually that me and Tucker talked a little bit about. And I think that you're seeing the pendulum swinging maybe back in the other direction. Because what everybody recognizes is that 10 years ago, there was a dissent, a consensus maybe that started to emerge. which is that the institutions had no credibility. The institutions, the media, academia, the government, they were all lying to us. And they were, I mean, there was a consensus that we couldn't trust them and that they had forfeited their credibility and legitimacy because they were lying. They were telling us things that we knew were not true, things that were not common sense. And when you push back on them rather than correct the record,

1:29:52 They just censored. They censored or they called you a racist or a Vax Denier, all those different things. Climate change. Right, they did all these kinds of things and I think that only hastened the end of their legitimacy and credibility because it showed that there was no ability for them to correct themselves. And so of course then the pendulum swung in the other direction. And this is why your show is huge, it's why Joe Rogan is number one, it's why Tucker's huge, it's why all the people in this sphere, in this community, comedians, podcasters, conspiracy theorists, extremists, All these people are now gaining so much currency, especially now that there's free speech. Elon acquired Twitter, opened it up, and now people are flocking to these alternative sources of information and opinion. But I would say, and I said this to Tucker also at our dinner, it seems that we're reaching maybe the high watermark of that part of the pendulum swinging. It seems like we're reaching a phase of exuberance.

1:30:51 And maybe a level of adoption where now it's gonna start to swing in the other direction because what you see and you've alluded to this is that people seem to be falling for a lot of red herrings and getting wrapped up in weird conspiracy stuff. I would say maybe the first iteration of that is like the QAnon thing. Like this comes out in 2018, and I think it catches on. I was about to say Q is a prime example. Right, and that was one of the first ones. And it was substantial and major. And it caught on because it sounded correct. There were a lot of questions the QAnon people were asking that were kind of legitimate questions. They were connecting some dots that were there. But of course, the whole conceit of it was false. You know, the idea that Trump is a shadow president or, you know, that any of that stuff was real, it just wasn't. And that was maybe kind of like the first big wave of that. And I could even see with some of the

1:31:43 criticism of Israel. It starts getting into theories like the Qazar mafia and it starts getting into the Frankists and all these weird directions. And the US Capitol is actually 8,000 years old and yeah, just total cuckoo town. Right, the kookery, the tartare, all that kind of stuff I would consider in the same vein. And so I think we're in a position now where either the institutions, they have a chance at gaining back their credibility. And I don't think they're gonna take it because you look at the moves being made in media and like TikTok is censoring more, it got bought by Larry Ellison. CBS brought Bari Weiss and so they're getting worse, not better. What you tend to see in a situation like this is just classic tyranny.

1:32:27 Which is that the the political movement or the political leader that is the most adept at manipulating the whims of the masses, that is the person that is going to rule the roost. And so whatever form that takes, I don't actually know if it's gonna be left-wing, right-wing, economically populist, if it's gonna have an identitarian flavor. Let's quantify what you just said, interrupt me, what you're saying is totally true. If the establishment doubles down, that is the wrong course for them. I'm not even defending, I'm saying for them it's bad. But then you awaken a bunch of people, but they don't get informed about how things really work, then it creates a black hole of insanity. And so that's why most revolutions go bad. Yeah, we're having a revolution. Yeah, we're awake to the bad power structure. But then you've got to have a new paradigm. You've got to have a new plan. And I think that's our job now to present that.

1:33:20 I totally agree because there's so much anger right now, but it's sort of like you said earlier, it's sort of just like a mindless anger. And there's something, what they're getting at is right, like there is a mass awakening, there is a lot of truth going out there. But you can feel there's like a deep sense of chaos. It really is like an I am legion kind of a fact when the mob gets stirred up like that. And let's be honest, there is a lot of anger, there's a lot of hate. There's a lot of-. The number one threat of tyranny is the mob. It's true, and that's really what it is. It's stirring up an angry mob. And what I don't like about that is it seems that then the person who is going to appeal to the mob the most effectively, that's the one that's gonna drive it. And in order to manipulate the mob, you need to be a sociopath. You don't actually have to have real beliefs to manipulate the mob. You just have to pull these levers and push the buttons in a calibrated way, kind of manipulating- You don't actually fix things, you just gotta manipulate the mob.

1:34:18 Right, and that I guess I'm I'm becoming more worried about that in a way that I was in a couple of years ago because the way things were a couple of years ago Censorship was so total and complete and the gatekeepers were so powerful. It's like you're the revolutionary then challenging the enemy now the enemy's falling Now you big which is part of the process if you're actually smart now that we are coming into power Intellectually now we have to be the intellectuals now. We have to be the aristocrats that actually try to save civilization Right, we need to catch the falling knife, because we kind of blew the doors open. We're in the palace. It's like the end of Dune II. We're there. We're in the throne room. It's very clear. But we need to be careful, like you said. And Tucker even talked about this on his show too. It's funny how we're all kind of in sync on this. He said it's important that the, like an animal farm,

1:35:08 that the pigs that were in the revolution don't become like the human beings that came before, that you don't just get another iteration of that. And so how do you kind of have a truly new birth, like a baptize a new country with kind of like a new movement? And I think I said this on Dave Smith, the responsible and mature people, I consider you to be one of them, myself, Dave, Tucker, I mean all these people, the responsible and mature people need to wisely guide the crowds, build something institutional. and kind of guide the country through the transition. It's not, the fight isn't over yet. We're still very much in the fight, but we have to kind of think about that day after, you know, that's kind of the buzzword with Gaza. Exactly, it's one thing to overthrow something, it's another thing to then build the new future.

1:35:53 Right, and you need to do them simultaneously. It's weird because a lot of people have this idea like, well, let's worry about beating the enemy, then we'll figure everything out later. It's like, no, you have to be thinking about that day after. You always can't just oppose a tyranny. You have to have an opposing worldview and idea for others to adopt. Yes, a positive vision and that's really about what I've been working on is trying to figure out. Well talk about that then I want to get into geopolitics and the shutdown because the Democrats are betting everything on this. They're gonna keep it shut down folks. Their average constituent doesn't know you need 60 votes for a spending bill. Let's just start, we'll finish your point about what your vision would be and then let's address the EBT snap stuff being cut off Saturday.

1:36:35 Yeah, so I mean in terms of my positive vision, I like to talk to the younger people to watch my show and say, what actually do you know how to do? If we want to transform and become the American elite, we have to actually enter into the institutions and gain the institutional know-how. I know a lot of people watch my show, they could tell me the history of the Middle East and how Israel got us into every war and this and that and the other. It's like, but do you know about how government works? Do you know about how society works? Do you know the first thing about critical minerals, about the geopolitical landscape? Because if we want to create this cadre, this political cadre that is going to run the next regime or be the new elite, you're going to

1:37:16 need to know a little bit more than that. And so I'm trying to get people into this idea that it's not just about taking away and subtracting and being anti and against, but it's about saying what are we for? And what I'm for is we want America to produce things again. We want a tariff schedule. We want subsidies. We wanna decouple from China. We wanna make stuff in America. And we want Latin America, the Western Hemisphere to be our periphery. We wanna dominate the landscape here. And I think that if we can get things strained out at home, and that means law and order, that means safe public transit, that means cities that are livable, that are prosperous. It means that we have industry. It means that we have control over the borders. We're gonna have to

1:37:58 to remigrate a lot of these problematic people that have come here in the past 20 years. If we can get things settled at home and produce things and be safe and have kind of a predictable society again, then we could project power abroad and we can keep our civilization. That's kind of the rough sketch. By the way, this gives me faith because I know you're really smart, Nick, because I know a lot of history and I'm pretty informed. That's all I do. I know people that know what they're saying, people that act like they know, you know. And I'm giving you a few speeches on air and a few off. And I'm on. But I was what I was saying was I try to post something about China. Ninety five percent were mineral control, which they've cut off now. And I'm like, I try to post a video all I get is cover up Israel, Israel, Israel. Only thing.

1:38:37 And We're getting rid of an old power structure, but now we have to be ready to intellectually bring in the new one that is not just sustainable, but is prosperous and upwardly lifted and just amazing. And we are there. And so many people have been in the underdog position. They're not ready to actually lead and actually be in power. And that's where we are. So looking at the Democrats' plans, I think the best way to go at this, and then I'll get into Venezuela,

1:39:24 and your great realist breakdown, which I 100% agree with. What do you make of the shutdown? We're in day 29 or day 30, and the Democrats, despite the polls against them, going all in on this to cut off 40 plus million people from their welfare checks and EBT and SNAP on Saturday, and all the calls for the Podesta plan to be launched. I agree with you, this has got to be crushed. This is a premeditated insurrection plan. Looking at the angles. How do we counter this? How do we message this? What do you think's coming? Well, it terrifies me that they're taking away the food stamps. Because if that's legitimate and they take away all the food stamps, I mean, you're gonna get civil unrest. You're gonna get some serious problems over that because people are gonna feel it. And in some ways, these types of problems are gonna present over and over again because the government is insolvent. So this is a debate over whether we're gonna raise the deficit $2 trillion, $1 trillion. We're getting squeezed. Interest on the debt, the debt itself, inflation, imminent recession.

1:40:25 The government is getting squeezed and what do you think is gonna happen in the future when there's just no money? And what's gonna happen to all the benefits? What's gonna happen to Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security? But I think that in the short term, I think that the Republicans need to get control of the messaging. They need to get out ahead of this thing. It's honestly such a sad state of affairs that they have allowed themselves to be blamed for this because the Democrats have made it very clear that they are pandering to their audience. They allowed the spending bill to pass earlier in the year, and their base was really unhappy with that because they said the Democrats didn't even put up a fight. And this is Ezra Klein in the New York Times basically said this. He said, we expect the Democrats to shut down the government really just on account of the Trump administration is doing things we don't like. So we're just not going to give them the votes. We're going to shut down the government just to pander to these radical insurrectionists across the country.

1:41:22 with Islam and the left that wants to crash the country. And so literally Schumer is pandering to Bernie Sanders, AOC, and Mondami. I mean, this is insane. It is and what exactly is the end game here? I mean, what is it actually that they want? I don't even know that they have clearly articulable goals out of the shutdown other than they just wanna stop the government from functioning. This is why- They're in total panic mode. Everyone, record low approval, record low campaign raising money. No, this is just pure throwing a fit. Trump should address the country and point that out. I don't think the Republicans, they should be hardcore on this.

1:42:05 Well, and they're just so disorganized. That's what's disappointing because across the board, it's an insurrection. They're getting in the way of ICE. They're getting in the way of federal law enforcement. They're attacking federal law enforcement. They don't want illegals to be deported from the country. Now they won't let the government function. And It seems like there's just not a level of organization or coordination or competence coming from the administration to get control of the situation. And I'm getting flashbacks from the first term where it's like, the government is incapable of doing anything other than making these gestures towards its base. Other than making videos, other than trying to convince the base that they're trying their best.

1:42:45 We wanna see them do it. Trump won, it's his vengeance. He won in a landslide, he got the mandate. Governor Pritzker for racketeering for insurrection, he said resist, fight, block federal agents doing their job. People wanna see that, it'll fold like a house of cards, indict that fat son of a bitch. Yes, bring down the hammer, bring down the hammer on all of them. And you need to be in the media, you need to have a message, and you need to have a whole of government approach. And the Republicans are still somewhat awake compared, but they're still in a bubble. No, there's going to be a national orgasm when the gloves come off. Because again, I tell you cash bondi. They're not even bad people. They're cowards. They still believe the left has power crush them They started it. They wanted it. They want to destroy the country explain huge plane as well crush them crush them people wanted them to be crushed Well, that's right because look

1:43:38 As long as the Democrats believe that they have hope in this situation, they're gonna resist Trump. In other words, that they're gonna get away with it. That's really the problem is they know the administration is never gonna take it seriously. They know they're never gonna face any consequences. Why do you think these idiots in Chicago or Portland are attacking ICE and DHS? It's cuz they know they're gonna run away and there's gonna be no consequences. And as this continues to escalate- Right, even if they get arrested, they're gonna get released anyway. there's a word for that, they're becoming emboldened. And this is escalating. And the more that they're able to get away with it, the more they're gonna escalate their tactics. And the federal government, as long as it keeps meeting them with half measures, we're just sort of holding hands, walking down the street together towards this escalation between federal and local law enforcement, federal and local authorities. And it's not gonna go anywhere good. And that's why I said with Tucker, you need to get ahead of it and you need to crush it. And by crush it, that means

1:44:39 swiftly and overwhelmingly. It has to be rapid, fast, and it needs overwhelming force. And the message needs to be, we're not playing. You can't resist the federal government. You can't resist federal supremacy. We're not playing around. And if the Illinois governor and Chicago mayor, if they wanna try and jam this process up, that's unconstitutional. That's not the social contract. You're going to jail. You can't be allowed to do this. Monday, he says the feds have no right to oversee elections. The feds oversee world elections. It's in the Constitution. Anybody can over observe the idea that the feds can't open again. People go, you're being pro fed. No, it's the federalist system. It's the balance. It's completely out of balance. Exactly. And it's why it's like with illegal immigration, according to the Constitution, that is the federal government's purview to enforce the borders, not the states, not anybody else. Pure jurisdiction, pure.

1:45:34 Right, and they're not military. So you can send Border Patrol NIs into the cities and you have to let them do their job. This is like secessionist Civil War kind of talk when they say, oh, we need to resist them. And you have these press conferences where they're standing together. That's a straight up insurrection. And the longer you let this go on, it's just going to metastasize. and it's gonna be harder to put down later in the future and it's just gonna get worse. So that's why I've said the admin's gotta come down and absolutely crush it. But it's like you say, they're too weak. They're afraid, they won't use the tools that they have. And this is why it was so critical last year. It's like deja vu all over again with BLM in 2020 or Antifa at the inauguration the first time. They will never take the gloves off and just put it to an end and they need to. Like that's the only solution at this point.

1:46:23 I agree, I watch your show a lot. You do like two, three hours a night. I probably watch an hour a day, but when I'm driving and stuff. But your analysis, I don't know if you saw mine, but it's the same thing. It's the Monroe Doctrine. They're killing hundreds of thousands a year with drugs. They're fighting the Democratic Party on record. They're manipulating elections. This is not neoconism. All the wars last 30 years. This is realism. This is what we're supposed to do. Can you spend a few minutes on because people say, oh you sold out. Well I didn't get a check, I didn't know that. No, I know the Monroe Doctrine, I know Thomas Jefferson, the Barbary Pirates, what he did. This is actually what you do. A country like Russia got encircled, got invaded, it fought back. Not saying Russia's perfect, but it's their backyard, they have a right. This is our backyard. What Trump's doing in Venezuela I see as constitutional. I agree with you that

1:47:11 The response he gave was set up by the CIA, bad pigs 2.0. And we can debate how it's done. But overall his move, we're under attack. These are equivalent of missiles killing millions of people. You spoke to that. Can you recap that? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, people, I say this all the time. I'm not anti-war and I wouldn't even call myself a non-interventionist. I'm a realist. I think that the United States has this awesome wealth and awesome power. And there's nothing wrong with that inherently to use that power to secure the interests of America. And historically, what has always been the strategic interest of America is to control the Western Hemisphere. And the reason for that is very simple. We are not threatened by Europe. We're not threatened by Asia. A big reason for that is because we have the Pacific and Atlantic Ocean separating us. So any kind of invasion from a great power over there

1:48:00 It doesn't have a direct threat against the homeland because we would see it coming. They'd have this logistical challenge of crossing the ocean. That changed a little bit with nuclear weapons and missiles, but that still is generally true. And so what that means then is that in order for America to keep the homeland safe, what we have to worry about most acutely and imminently is the Western Hemisphere. Maybe Iran is not a threat because they're literally on the other side of the world, but Venezuela is close to home. Cuba is close to home. And the perfect example is the Cuban Missile Crisis. You have a adversarial hostile regime in Cuba. And although the Cuban government is not able to challenge the United States directly or existentially, if they're allied with our strategic competitors like the Soviet Union, they could one day host a nuclear missile that's within striking distance of the United States. And no ABM system is gonna be able to prevent that from happening. And Maduro has 5,000 Russian missiles he's gonna use.

1:48:55 He's allied with China, he's running his mouth, he's the piggy bank for the Democrats. You want to cut the Democrats off? This is bigger than the USA. You cut that off. Exactly. So this is America first actually coming back. You're saying if you were president, you're looking at this, you see why Trump's doing it. Yes, there is a vital strategic interest for Americans in controlling South Central America and the Caribbean. Not going to the Middle East to blow up the Muslims and then ship them here for Israel. This is actually in our interest. You're saying in general, but you're worried about how it's implemented. Exactly, exactly. It's all the difference in the world. You go to Iraq to make a democracy. You go to Afghanistan to make sure women can vote. This is about making sure that in South America we have across the board, by the way, it's not even just in Venezuela, it's across the whole board. All these governments that are doing trade with China, they're doing trade with China and that's the basis of a future strategic relationship. China is sending them weapons, they're investing in dual use infrastructure, deep water ports, radar dishes. These are all

1:49:55 things that theoretically-. We're being encircled just like the Russians struck back. It's literally under rule of law, war doctrine. This is what you're supposed to, this is default stuff. Exactly, this is your vital American strategic interest. This is, people say, isn't the purpose of the military to protect America? This is protecting America. These are the Americas, these are strategic interests. And so, and by the way, what's more, This has been US policy for 200 years. It goes back to the Monroe Doctrine. And people like to say we shouldn't meddle in their affairs. We've been doing that since the Spanish-American War. We've been doing that since there were these banana republics. We've always been operating in that way, and that's for a very good reason. I think that's our realist point of view. But to be a finer point, the Monroe Doctrine is we don't meddle. You meddle, we come in.

1:50:44 Well, and more I would say moreover that the Western Hemisphere is uncontestable American territory. I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with us meddling actually, and maybe we might disagree on that, but I support meddling. I don't think that- No, no, no, no, I get it. When we were opposed, when a force moves in, which China has, it's not even meddling. I get the meddling. I'm saying it's a defense. You have to do it. Right, yes, I understand. Yeah, so if China's trying to come in here and you know why they're doing that, then it's our job to kick them out. So and like I said, just a little concerned about how we go about it, but I support it. Let's talk about that. We come back in two minutes. Then I want to get into critiques of the Trump administration and what's going to happen to Netanyahu and so much more. Stay with us. I was not trying to do a product placement thing here. We're at Rex's 23rd birthday.

1:55:54 But I know all this stuff because I'm obsessed with this stuff. It's not like I want to know it. Once you get into it, you just... I know all these guys that know about baseball, football, all that. When I was younger, I did too. I don't know about that anymore. I know about politics. And it's so scary that most people I talk to don't know what I'm talking about. I can bring up almost any subject of Nick Fuentes. And he knows what I'm talking about. Sometimes he teaches me something. That's what impresses me. And well, I'll just move on from that. We've only got 30 minutes left. We've got a bunch of subjects. And we knew this. Nick called it. Netanyahu, the peace deal. Oh, we blow up whatever we want and then call it a ceasefire. That's coming up. Arctic frost all over. Just this brief four minutes to the break, then some stations join us. Finishing up. Yes, Trump under the Monroe Doctrine and under what Venezuela has done to us, the meddling and the fentanyl, all that has a right. And it makes sense that it cuts off China and sends a message.

1:56:45 But that doesn't mean I support regime change because I don't trust the CIA and I don't trust them not doing a Bay of Pigs like 61 when Trump goes in. What do you think, Nick Fuentes? Yeah, I totally agree. And that's kind of like the nuance there. Cuz like with you, I got a lot of people criticizing me for this take and saying, you're a neocon, you support regime change. And like you, I think it's weird how we totally synced up on this. We recognize there's a strategic value in having Venezuela aligned with Washington and broader South and Central America being the same way. At the same time, we're also extremely wary of regime change because what happened in Trump's first term, Trump hit some with maximum pressure. They try to do regime change and 8 million people leave the country and many of them wind up in Houston and all over Texas, all over Chicago, New York. Just like blowing up the Middle East, bringing the Muslims in.

1:57:38 Exactly, just like the Syrian refugee crisis is the same thing. And so that's always the concern is you blow up the regime and do you even succeed? Like that's the first question. Does it spill over into America? Do you get a refugee crisis? There's not a great track record of regime change. Yeah, the first question is can it be successful? Right, because they tried it for so long and it never worked because Maduro's people are loyal. They got Cuban intelligence embedded all over the security apparatus. And so like nobody's budging. Trump thought the government would collapse with the $50 million bounty, the stuff he's doing now. There's not a lot of cracks in that regime. They've been pushing them for 10 years and it hasn't happened. So what does that look like then? Boots on the ground? Does that look like airstrikes? What are we really in for here? And I wonder if we could resolve this with a deal. According to the New York Times, Rick Grinnell had secured a deal where Venezuela was going to give us the gold

1:58:31 the oil, they were gonna stop doing business with China, start doing business with America. Isn't that what we want? Isn't that what we're after? But Rubio, who is this anti-communist, he's a Cuban from Florida, so you get there's the baggage there. Well, that's not good enough for him. He says, no, we need the regime change. Maduro has to go. Well, why? If it's cheaper, easier, more predictable to just get the deal, why do we insist on going in there hot like this? And it makes me wonder if- But that'll bring down Cuba for sure. And then Venezuela controls Mexico, so he's the dominoes. The CIA wants to put the security chief in, which just downgrades it. I guess if they give the US full control, then maybe Maduro left. Because I don't think we take a deal with Maduro. That can't be trusted. If they let the US put other people in and then have free elections, then I would support the middle way. I think Rubio wants the clearest way to topple the regime, to topple Cuba and Mexico. What do you think?

1:59:32 I agree with that. I think there's a far reaching ambition there. And I think that Trump wants it to be kinetic because I think he, this is classic Trump. I think he wants it to echo into the other theaters. I think that- 100%, message to China and Russia. Right, and in Iran also, because that's the other sticky wicket is how do you get Iran to come back to the table? Well, maybe if they see another regime change, cuz this is what Trump did, I believe, in Syria in the first term. It's classic Trump. It's sort of like a Nixon-esque trilateral diplomacy. So I think that's another angle, but I agree with you. I don't know that we could trust Maduro, but I'm just so weary. Is there another regime change war really the best idea? It depends on how Trump goes about it. So with a lot of reservation, I have to say I'm not feeling so comfortable with it, but- Or we just arrest the Democrat NGOs laundering the fentanyl money and put them in prison. We can also cut the head off here in America. Nick, we'll be back in 60 seconds. Stay with us, huge question straight ahead.

2:00:27 So Russia has moved dozens of submarines, probably thousands of nuclear bombs and bombers into the zones of attack in Antarctica and in Western Russia. You have Trump admitting that he doesn't want peace, NATO doesn't want peace. Trump said no to cruise missiles two weeks ago. So now the Northern Group, that's an alliance of NATO, headed up by Starmer, the pedophile protector, grandmaster, Lord High Protector, says they're gonna start bombing Russia as early as next week. This is insane level stuff. So there's that going on in the background. And if Nick wants to comment on that tied into this, it's important. But

2:01:08 But Israel says ceasefire back after strikes killed more than 100 in Gaza. They launched the biggest attacks since the ceasefire, massive attacks. Everybody's like, oh God, Trump, the greatest peace deal ever. Isn't this great? Yeah, he's trying. I'm not taking it away that he's trying, but they've already destroyed most of Gaza. They've already got this deal to come take it over. And then there's a trust that's gonna be run by Bitcoin, not against Bitcoin. But my God, this sounds like This sounds like a 15-minute city hellhole to me. That's what they're calling it. And then, okay, we're not going to ship the Gazans, 2 million of them, somewhere. They're going to be here. But then it's all blown up. And then they can say, well, you haven't given us the dead bodies, but it's all destroyed. I'm not defending Hamas that Israel created. And so this is just an ongoing Israel pulled its tanks out and bulldozers, but keeps bombing

2:02:01 And then they call it a ceasefire, then Israel says, well, the ceasefire is back on. The ceasefire is off. And I just look at this. It was kind of a joke when Trump was at the Knesset. They're like, oh, great job. Oh, you got peace. Well, Trump has gotten peace in other places and is trying it. But this just seems like a sick joke that is only gonna go south from here. Nick, you've been predicting this would happen. You've been right so far. Where do you see this going? Well, the reason that I thought this thing would fall apart is because of course Israel has no intention of actually ending the fighting. I think they're the ones that are really driving this. And if you look at the history over the past couple years, the pattern's very clear, which is that Israel is always willing to do a first phase or a short term ceasefire. They did one in the end of November 2023. They did one in January of this year. It's a reload like Russia won't give Ukraine a ceasefire as they say it's a reload.

2:02:57 Right, it's a reprieve for their ground forces, which are all reservists who are not very experienced soldiers and they, very low morale, high casualty rate in Gaza. So this is a chance for them to regroup. And it's not also just a reload, that's a huge part of it. The other part of it is they are engaged in an eight front war. I mean, seven kinetic fronts, they say the eighth front is the psychological information space, but they're engaged in a seven front fully regional war. What happened right after the ceasefire, and I said this on my show, is that they're going to reorganize and then go on the attack on the other fronts. And where we're seeing that manifest, first and foremost, is in Lebanon. And almost nobody's paying attention to Lebanon, but you've got our US envoy to Lebanon, Tom Barak, is over there trying to implement what was passed in the Lebanese parliament not too long ago, which is the disarmament of Hezbollah. And under pressure from Israel- So you keep predicting what's gonna happen, so what's gonna happen next?

2:03:54 So I think what's gonna happen next is Israel's gonna step it up against Lebanon. I think they're going to, in the short term, step it up against Iran. I think they might re-engage Iran with strikes. And then I think after they finish the job against Hezbollah and maybe they do something with Iran, I think they're gonna go right back into Gaza and resume what they were doing before, which is bulldozing all the cities. and pushing the people into a smaller and more concentrated area to eventually kick them out. I think there's no scenario where they let him stay there. Well, years ago, Jared Kuster said we're going to turn it into oceanfront property, the new Riviera or whatever Trump said. They're doing it now and it's just like

2:04:33 Why are we focused on this? Like why are we even involved? Why are we giving Israel all the weapons? Israel's not gonna fall from, they stood down on October 7th. It's just why, my message to all the anti-Jew people is the same thing to all the pro-Jew people. Like why is this our culture? Like why do we talk, why is it about Venezuela and Mexico? Why is it about fentanyl? Why is it about getting our birth rate up? Why is it about, like we have to talk about us. I totally agree, but at the end of the day, I think the security apparatus is preoccupied with this because they know they need Israel to make peace with the Gulf states. They know they need Israel and Saudi Arabia to be in the Abraham Accords together.

2:05:17 Because that's the only way that we're gonna be able to hand off the Middle East to this coalition in the same way we're trying to do a NATO, and then we can prioritize China. So we want out of the Middle East, we wanna leave it to them, but the problem is Israel has not been integrated with all of the neighbors. So now Syria has a new regime, Lebanon is disarming Hezbollah. In order for Saudi Arabia to come aboard, they're gonna need Israel to wrap up this Palestinian thing. And so for everybody, it's just become like a major inconvenience. And I know that sounds horrible, but that is how they look at it. For Trump, he's like, all right, let's just wrap this thing up. Okay, are you done yet? Because we need Abraham Accords to go through Riyadh, so we could do IMEC and we could get out of here and then we could build up in Taiwan. I think that's really the idea. Exactly, Israel isn't only manipulating our internal policy,

2:06:04 It is getting in the way of our overall strategic plans. That's a fact. Why doesn't Netanyahu even think about the larger picture? If the West falls, Israel's screwed. But he doesn't even think about that. They're going for broke. I think they recognize and they've said this in their magazines, they've said this in their think tanks. They say that the situation in America is changing. America is becoming an unreliable ally because of the political climate, because of the progressive left, because of the so-called anti-Israel sentiment among the younger generation. And they know that if they're relying on America for their security in 10 or 20 years,

2:06:39 There might be a question mark there. And so I think this is their go for broke. This is their once and for all push to decisively defeat Iran, all of its proxies, roll up Palestine, and kind of figure out all their strategic problems in one go. And one, it's gonna be tough. They're gonna be under a lot of pressure. They're gonna engender a lot of hatred. But Netanyahu's basically said it's worth it. He says everyone's gonna hate us, but we're gonna win and then they're gonna get over it and we won't have these problems anymore. And then we can really take control of the security situation for the whole region. And so from their point of view, it sort of makes sense, I guess. It's just that the United States maybe doesn't recognize that they're kind of holding us up. They're totally set against our foreign policy here. So it would be good for the United States to wrap up. Yeah, who does Israel ally with in the future?

2:07:29 I think they'll be allying with China. I think they'll be their belt and road, just like Saudi Arabia is. The Chinese credit will come into the Gulf countries. The Gulf countries will spend their money. They have these facilities. They'll spend the money in Israel. And I think that Israel, like every other country, they'll become a middle power. And they're gonna take what they could get from both sides. They'll take what they get from America, they'll take what they can get from China, and they'll kinda double dip. And this is what a lot of countries are doing now. Under Biden, this exploded when Emirates and Egypt joined BRICS. Argentina was gonna do the same thing. Brazil is doing this, security from the United States, credit from China. So I think that Israel, they're getting

2:08:10 ready to ditch us. That's the thing. It's like now that we've made them this power, now they're gonna say, thank you so much. They're gonna cut the cord and then they're gonna be able to engage in a region without any real threats. Not as an ally at all. And then you've got the pathetic Christian Zionists, as Tucker said with you, that is the most disgusting group. They don't know anything. They don't understand anything. And they just literally worship whoever's in power in Israel. Shifting gears to the time we have left, Arctic Frost documents came out months ago, Tulsi Gabbard, all of it, spying on US senators, spying on Congress. Now spying on me without warrants, getting my cell phone all confirmed. I talked to FBI, they looked at the codes that are on this. It was a total dragnet. Find money laundering, find gambling, find insider trading, find anything. Every code is there to all the FBI field offices, get the American people. I'm actually honored to be at the top of this list.

2:09:07 with what Jack Smith's doing. But now this has been released, we put it through chat GPT, it had the same findings. This is a major scandal and will the Justice Department continue to protect itself and Todd Blanche who killed criminal investigations into my persecution? Will Trump continue to have his blind spot to have Democrat Southern District, New York people like Todd Blanche in there from all my sources is the problem I mean, what is this thing Trump has about Bill Barr working against him? He now knows won't even criticize him Todd Blanche all of this. What do you make of Arctic Frost these new documents just came out?

2:09:48 Well, it doesn't surprise me at all. Those Bill Barr documents came out not too long ago and it seems just like a rehash of that. And this has been going on since the Obama administration. Let's explain that, you're in those. In fact, pull up the Bill Barr documents, guys, let's put them up. You and I are at the top of the list four or five years ago to get, and we get more documents, same story. What else does America need to know? Here are the bad guys trying to get us, why? And then, yeah, back to Arctic Frost. Right, well and I was gonna say, this goes all the way back even before Trump won the election. In reality, this goes back to the FISA warrants that Obama sought in June 2016 to spy on Trump Tower. And it's amazing because Trump is always trying to relitigate this kind of stuff and say, they spied on my campaign and got caught. Wasn't there a big report that came from the DNI a few months ago that said Obama broke the law? They released the documents that Obama ran crossfire hurricane.

2:10:41 when Trump was president. So yeah, we have their ass. And yet it seems like nothing ever happens to these people. We just had the congressman that heads the committee, Representative James Comber deliver, he said on a silver platter, total proof to Bondi of all their criminal activity and the auto pen invited to run it. There's total proof nothing's being done. So yeah, so but here's the good news, Nick. Trump is the pressure's on. Remember that tweet a few months ago against Bondi. He's not gonna put up with it. What do you think's gonna happen? I think they're gonna blow it. I mean, I'm a little more pessimistic than you are, but I think they're gonna blow it because

2:11:20 For whatever reason, and like you said, it's sort of inexplicable. He doesn't wanna talk about it. He's not going after these people. He had no drive to do it in the first term. I don't honestly see it in the second term. And he's going after James Comey and John Bolton for this Nikki Knack kind of stuff. James Comey lied under old John Bolton classified documents. This is nothing. I mean, I really am disappointed with-. No, I agree with you. But what I have seen is when he light fires under their ass, Then we get results. So it's up to us. How do we light fires out of their ass? Who do we need to go after? Well, it's Pam Bondi It's it's Kash Patel and it's Trump The problem is I don't know even who's listening Because there's so much pressure for example on like the Epstein files and then they're not gonna do anything about that And there's so much pressure about the deportations and they're not doing anything about that either. It's like so I

2:12:11 I wish, I mean, I would say, of course, you talk about the DOJ, go for the FBI, go for Trump himself, maybe Vance. Maybe Vance might listen if everybody loves him so much. He seems to have his ear to the ground. He's got his finger on the pulse. I think he's a very good politician. Maybe he'd talk to him. But honestly, where do you think the motion is in the administration? Who do you think maybe has the most gift? No, from my sources, Vance is fully awake. That's why when you've been critical, I get your points, but he gets it. He knows he's going to prison if we don't do this. I mean, look, Todd Blanch is a goddamn piece of shit. So excuse my French folks, but I mean, he is from all my, he is blocking everything. Pam Bondi just is literally on TV, dumb blonde, Barbie 2.0, not trying to be mean. Patel's just flying around having fun and Trump's just gotta get rid of these people, man. I mean, this is like, we're doomed. I mean, it's so simple.

2:13:04 I mean, I got an FBI whistleblower coming on in about an hour. Did you know the guy that ran Arctic Frost is still at the FBI? Really? Yeah. Wow. We're going to name names. No one even knows this. Yeah. I'll be watching that. It doesn't surprise me. This is like the first term all over again when they said on the front page of the New York Times, I'm in the Trump administration and I'm sabotaging it and making sure nothing happens. It's like, I said it last year during the election. This is one of my huge hang ups and criticisms is that personnel is policy. And I was not convinced last year that Trump had learned his lesson from the first time, which is you need to gut the deep state. You need to gut the permanent bureaucracy. Most importantly, in the intel agencies, most importantly in federal law enforcement, how can you have, because there was a conspiracy from the top in 16 and 20 throughout the Biden administration.

2:14:00 Arctic frost documents proving a total dragnet not about j6 any crime they could find the FBI's main mission fine Republican lawmakers In campaign finance or something. This is literally them hunting Congress total weaponization we did national dresses from Trump we need to go to war on this and I totally agree. It's always been like this and now we have all the evidence for it. Everyone always suspected that and the evidence has been coming out for years and now this is just like the smoking gun. But where's the messaging? Again, I just don't, it's very frustrating because I feel the same way that you do about it. I mean, I'm furious about the whole situation. We have both gotten the brunt of it, you more than me. And yet Trump who purports to be our defender, I'm your voice, I'm your vengeance, where's the revenge? What do you think his problem is?

2:14:55 To be honest, and I don't know the sources as well as you do, I'm kicked out of the administration. They don't want any of my guys in there. But to be honest, I think it's him. A lot of people are afraid to say that because they don't want to cross him. I think it's him. I think he's incompetent. I think he's disorganized. I think that he's-. Well, he works really hard. He has great, I agree though, economic ideas. But he has 4 million employees. I know it's true. He doesn't know. He doesn't do the research. We're young we can do it. He just works all the time these people kiss his ass He doesn't know so it is Trump at the end of the day. So where's the family?

2:15:33 Where's all his other people we know they're trying to tell him stop They were scared to tell him the first admin about the traitors. I would that's what they targeted me Folks we got it. You gotta get the information to Trump cuz I can tell you how many insiders I talk to go Oh, no, you're right about top branch. Oh, you're right about this. Oh my god this person that person think about how we if we talk about it They're gonna kick us out. Welch who fucking cares fuck Fire the, if you're a sentry on the parapet and the enemy's attacking, you raise the alarm, you fire, you know, the rocket, you light the watchtower, do your job. Well, and where's the turnover? You know, I mean this cabinet's totally failing us. Pam Bondi should be, she should have been gone a long time ago. Kash Patel, same story. In the first term, at least you had some turnover. At least they were moving people around and firing people. Anybody Congress tried to block is who should be the AG like an Ed Martin. Oh, they let Patel in because he perjured himself in the testimony.

2:16:29 I mean like 10 times he literally that I know if he said he said I don't know who's two Peters is he was only interviewed by a dozen times thousands of text messages like best buddies. He said I don't know who's two Peters is right there lying to Congress. Why'd they approve him? Because they think because they got dirt on him. Yeah well and then there's a lot of shady stuff going on over there and living with a billionaire in in right in Vegas. Well, and how they handled that other situation in Nevada not too long ago. I mean, it's clear that they're totally-. Let the Israeli go, try to pick up 14 year old girls? Right, exactly. So this whole cabinet, the whole personnel, some of them are better than others. There's some, like you say, I mean, there are some good people in this administration, but this is not the vengeance cabinet. Let's just say it that way. This is not the golden age cabinet that we were promised, and it's not getting better. So

2:17:25 I think they should go. I think Pam Bondi should have been fired. And it's interesting, by the way, that Laura Loomer changed her tune on that. You remember there was so much pressure to get Pam Bondi fired, everybody wanted her to go. And now they're saying, well, she's doing a good job. So this is a lot of nonsense, a lot of this political stuff going on. It's just a lot of garbage and nobody has time for this. So I mean, if I were Trump, I would fire Suze Wiles, I would fire Honestly, Heg Seth, I would fire Kash Patel, Pam Bondi. I'd let a lot of them go because none of these people, I think everybody realizes this, this cabinet's kind of a joke and they're not delivering for anybody. Nobody's happy about this. I think that Heg Seth is just not solid. I don't think he's ideologically anything. What I've been told is that he's basically manipulated. He's got, so he's alleged some people have blackmail over him. He had his whole staff purged over Signal Gate. He let that guy Dan Caldwell go and a few other really solid people. So he seems to blow with the wind. I don't have a ton of confidence in him and a lot of this goofy stuff, that whole speech that he did when they rallied all the generals.

2:18:26 I think that was in Washington. I thought that was ridiculous. Some of these cute, cheeky little videos he's doing with the drones. I just think he's not serious. I think he's kind of a goof and that's not personal, but I just think he's not doing a good job. So-. Well, compared to what we had, I liked his speech with the generals, but we'll talk about that. But you got to come back again because we've run out of time. We've got to talk about, well, just briefly, I know you have a lot of history. And I know Joe Stalin compared to Lenin could be seen as a good guy because Lenin was the real persecutor of Christians and the Russians saw Stalin as a savior when he came in and you'll kill Lenin he claimed he died of a stroke, but The Russians are smart to give the credit for Russia expanding under this. I love the woman you're on like oh He's from Georgia, Georgia the country, you know all of that. Come on you I know you like strongmen, but you know you like Joe Stalin and

2:19:19 Well, look, I said it on my show, I think he's an evil guy. He's obviously an evil, ruthless person signing the death warrants of millions of people. But what I've always said is, He is like the archetypal great man of history. And the reason being is because he runs a dictatorship within the party. The party totally controls society. It's all on him, the buck stops with him. And when you look at where he started and where he ended, he gets total power in like, let's say 1928, he dies in 1953. over this 25 year period, he takes Russia from a total peasant country, failing wartime communism, new economic plan, and he transforms it to this industrial nuclear superpower, bigger than ever. He's taken all of Eastern Europe, he's defeated Hitler, they get the bomb. I mean, so this is somebody that- No doubt Stalin was a great man, but you say Mao Zedong was or Genghis Khan,

2:20:21 They're gonna make the Nazis mad like Stalin too. Yeah, well and I think that's kind of a fun reversal because everybody expects me to be the Hitler guy or whatever. And I'll tell you the truth, I mean, I don't even really know that. You like the winners? That's one way to say it. Yeah, I always have. Yes, exactly. Hitler's a loser. Set up by British intelligence. All right, Nick, people find you at Nick J. Fuentes on Rumble. Thanks for coming on with us. Amazing, super viral top interview of the last month with Tucker Carlson. I'd love to come on your show as soon as you're ready. Come back on ours. Thank you so much for the time, Nick Fuentes. Thank you, man. Great to be with you. Thank you. Powerful interview. Powerful interview.

2:25:07 But I wanted to get Barnes on about the auto pen information, all of it, the current state of the union. But I love the idiots out there, because it makes them feel official and powerful. Go with Jones as a Fed, Jones is with the blah. All I get sued, attacked, demonized, because I'm promoting the Republic and common sense ideas. And here I am in the Arctic Frost documents released yesterday, the only main reporter where they didn't have any warrant, but they had my cell phone content. And then you look at the codes I've shown to FBI, and I've put it through chat GPT. They're looking for sports gambling, campaign finance, donations. They're looking for money laundering. They're looking for anything. So what's incredible is they put their own codes. Jack Smith sending this out in 2022 to all the FBI offices. Don't find J6 stuff, find anything

2:26:04 on Trump, his lawyers, and Steve Bannon, and Alex Jones, and a few other people. So I'm honored to be on this list. And I've certainly been given proctology exam to proctology exam. I'm very straight. I don't even touch money. I got CPA, lawyers. I just do my show, live in a modest house, drive an okay car, you know, eat a steak when I want, but I ain't hurting, but I'm not like, I'm not Daddy Warbucks. I ain't into cash. To me ideology is victory, ideology is currency. But after all the audits and all the attacks and all the stuff, here it is again, front and center, but bigger than me, hundreds of Republican key people.

2:26:43 White House chief of councils, head of Republican Party in multiple states, drag netted, nothing found, just like Russiagate. What does that say about Republicans? I mean, Republicans were never perfect in the old neocon era. Some were corrupt, but it was always Democrats with the grand champions. Look at Crockett, with the secret bank account, secret stock portfolio. She lied, that's a felony, said she didn't have it on its face inside her trading. These people like project on us that we are them. Whereas Barnes has been my lawyer off and on for years, he checked all my stuff. I mean, it's like I don't have time to come up with corruption. My brain doesn't work like that. Like here's the system, here's the thing. I don't break laws, I change laws.

2:27:28 I don't overthrow governments, I elect new governments. Because that's the best, steadiest way in history to do it. So, Barnes, there's a lot to cover here with the auto pen, with Arctic Frost. But to me, this is so huge, not just because I'm in it, but because this hasn't really hit yet. We learned this last night, this morning. Even Chad Chiappette and Grok run it through, they see the codes that are on there, most of it's blacked out. It's every crime under the universe And they're not paying your taxes, you name it. How's this a J6 investigation run by the party that ran the J6 fedsurrection? To me, this is just spectacularly horrible. Instead, they're talking about, well,

2:28:10 You know, they targeted more than just these senators. And I was watching Fox during the break, I went and got some coffee. And they were still talking about, oh, a few more senators got targeted. No, this is a giant dragnet that was totally tyrannical and then found nothing. I'm actually very proud to be associated with the new Republican Party. We have literally had proctology exams. Their arms up our asses and they haven't found anything yet. This is crazy, Barnes. No doubt about that, it's dangerous at three different levels. One level is just what they decided to criminalize is also terrifying. The second level is how they use that pretext to do a mass surveillance campaign and secret spying campaign on populist leaders all across the nation. The third aspect is what was long suspected and what Todd Blanch wrongly shut down is that all of this was a part and parcel of the law fair.

2:29:08 Because look at the name next to Alex Jones' cell phone. It is the plaintiff's lawyer, Mark Bankston from the Sandy Hook cases. So he appears to have been complicit, involved in a conspiracy against federal civil rights using the civil lawsuits that by the way, how is it they had the cell phone? I thought, and for us never turned over any records. Isn't that why they issued a default judgment? Another lie that was debunked by all of this. But so just that aspect shows you how all of this was part and parcel of the same thing. The silence and suppress an entire movement to systematically and systemically violate everybody's civil rights. Which by the way, that means every jurisdiction in the country has jurisdiction and venue to pursue a case against all of this law. Now slow down, this is key, as I'll show the documents in a moment, it says

2:30:04 Total jurisdiction nationwide and they investigated civil rights violations and conspiracy against rights exactly what they did. Absolutely, so that means every US Attorney's Office in the country has jurisdiction to bring a criminal case against all of those that were complicit in this. Whether it's Christopher Wray, whether it's Jack Smith, whether it's John Brennan, whether it's any of them, they're all complicit in systematic mass scale. I mean, this makes people- People that aren't a star lawyer like you, because I barely get it, explain slowly what you just said. What these Arctic Frost new documents mean, why they're so huge, explain that.

2:30:43 So the government systematically violated pretty much everybody's federal civil rights at some level in every part of the country. Because they sought records, seized records. I mean, this also reveals, I'm sure Kyle Serafin will get into this. You had every major FBI office in the entire country complicit in this. They were all signed off on this. They all partook in this. This shows the necessity of a mass purge. of the FBI if not shutting it down all together. This was illegal activity where they said it was a crime to simply challenge an election. They said it was a crime to file a civil rights lawsuit about an election. They said it was a crime to contest an election. They said it was a crime to petition for people's voting records, like voting files that you're supposed to be under FOIA, Open Records Act.

2:31:36 If somebody made an open records act request to get things like the ballots in Georgia, they were put under criminal investigation. How pissed must they be? Well, that's totally legal and lawful that, you know, go back to the first point, how I'm surprised they never found any Republican would be a Russian agent. You know, they tried to hire me. I'm surprised that no, they never, I'm actually, wow. The Republicans are pretty clean. They've been washing their ass. Well, this is the populist wing that was under investigation. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, we're the people that go against the system at our own detriment, obviously we're clean. Exactly, exactly. The deep state crowd, the bill that was complicit in this, people like Ratburger and others from Georgia, they were not put under investigation. They were pointing fingers at their political opponents. Literally, the political establishment on both sides, on both parties,

2:32:27 used this case to put their political opponents under criminal investigation. And further, used it as a pretext to mass spy on all of their emails, all of their phone calls, all of their financial records. If you made a donation anywhere in the nation to anybody doing any research on the, whether it was Cyber Ninjas, whether it was Sidney Powell, whether it was Brad Pascali, whether it was Matt whether it was any of those people, you were put under investigation. That literally means everybody was, civil rights were violated in literally every single jurisdiction in the country. So what do you make of so far, because I'm not all the people targeted, so I don't know, but even the media is saying, even Congress is saying, I'm the only person where there wasn't a warrant. There were drag nets, but sure, warrants. With me, there's no warrant, major civil rights violations. This is a can of worms here.

2:33:20 Well, no, it appears that Mark Bankston provided this information that he took all of your cell phone records that purportedly were for the purpose of Sandy Hook, never had anything to do with Sandy Hook. I mean, anybody watching that, seeing that could observe that. And it appears that Bankston turned it over to the federal government and was conspiring with the federal government by, that's a reasonable inference from these documents. So that means the Sandy Hook lawyers were neck deep in this. So Blanche, by shutting down the Alex Jones investigation Ed Martin was trying to look into, is covering up for Arctic Frost criminality. That's what he's also doing in that same process.

2:33:58 This reveals, I mean, I agree with Kyle Seraf and the other FBI whistleblowers. This tells you almost every lead office of the FBI, the special agent in charge and assistant special agent in charge and the local legal counsel all signed off on this. Everywhere in the nation. Let's go further. We have the documents, the DOJ illegally funded it. That's what Todd Blanch killed. Now this is a cherry on top of Todd Blanch protecting now Arctic Frost. Exactly, and not only that, it raises questions about what the Treasury Secretary is doing. Scott Bessett, who is he the protege of? George Soros. Who is he the benefactor of? George Soros. Who made him rich? George Soros.

2:34:39 We have ties between George Soros and the Sadie Hook funded lawsuits. We have ties between George Soros and all of the NGOs engaged in riot campaigns, including the so-called No King's Movement. So you aggregate this, but why isn't George Soros being looked at? Is it because Scott Besant got rich through George Soros? He's now doing Soros' bidding in his war against Russia, and suckering Trump into getting further involved in that conflict. and supporting money for Ukraine. New York Times followed up a few years after that, and they looked at what was the number one inspiration for the populist movement in the United States. And it was Alex Jones. YouGov showed over 30 million Americans had a very favorable view of Alex Jones. Higher than Rush Limbaugh, higher than anyone else. So that made you a threat.

2:35:44 And then the New York Times asked Republican primary voters, who do you consider a more reliable source of information? The New York Times or Alex Jones and Infowars. The Republican primary voters said Alex Jones and Infowars by a large margin. And that made Infowars a target. And what they did, kind of like with the COVID mandates, where they used it to rat out and smoke out whoever was an independent thinker inside the government, inside the military at any level. That's what a part of the vaccine mandates were all about. They used the anybody who challenged the 2020 election to target as the excuse and pretext to try to take out the entire populist movement, doing a drag net macroscopic, microscopic investigation to try to find any allegations that they could mount of criminality.

2:36:31 And the problem was the populist movement, as you know, is so clean, is so on the up and up, is so honest and ethical that they couldn't find anything of credibility. Because these are literally the people ready, they're almost all Christians, ready to go to war even though they're attacked. I mean, it's true, we've been proven. It's crazy, that's how God works, so we've been shown who is the pure. No doubt about that. This confirms that beyond any doubt and it shows who the bastards are to be blunt about it The FBI is should be called the federal bastard Investigation agent and agency that's who and what they are. They are they expose that they use They literally try to make it a crime to for for lawyers like me to file a federal civil rights suit. This is insanity I've never seen even who Trump first got reelected this year last they said any lawyer helping Trump We will take your license and put you in prison

2:37:24 Exactly, and if you even simply made a donation to any voter rights organization, any civil rights investigation concerning the 2020 election. Let's be clear, you just started off as a civil rights lawyer, you still are. You're not even what you call a classic right winger or classical liberal, and they've come after you. Correct, I mean, and I've represented people literally all across the political spectrum in the political and electoral and other spaces. And they're saying what I do for a living is a crime. They want the, that's what's unbelievable here. I mean, this is shocking at so many levels, but it isn't just the mass illicit surveillance. It's that they were saying challenging an election is criminal, is now federal fraud.

2:38:05 Is now a conspiracy to the force. And meanwhile they're openly saying Trump's gonna suspend the election and steal it. So they're allowed to say it but nobody else is. Oh completely, I mean it was all reverse engineering. It was all a confession through projection and multiple layers and levels. But it reveals how the entire FBI is rotten at the core. This is not an agency that has a few bad apples. It is an agency where the agency itself is the bad apple. And this proves it, look at all the people who signed off on this. Look at all the internal emails. It's literally, nobody says boo. Nobody challenges it at all. Let's be clear, it's a total, look for any crime you can find, go after lawmakers, campaign finance, gambling, hookers, anything, destroy them.

2:38:51 Exactly, and what was the basis? If they ever challenged the election. If they ever raised questions about the election. They only list people that were fighting for Trump, and then they literally think those of us that are doing all this are corrupt like them. Yeah, exactly. There's a lot of confession through projection. They assume that there'd be all kinds of criminality that they would find. But just the idea that the Justice Department didn't say, they're supposed to have all these internal rules for a sensitive investigation. They ignored and violated all of them. What's an example? Ed Martin didn't tell me, I've known him for 25 years, people don't know him. He's up there 18 hours a day. His wife understands he never, he has a key core, 18 hours a day. They're trying to investigate him. This guy is literally a soldier. But they cannot imagine there's people like that. They just can't imagine.

2:39:35 Right, exactly. And what it reveals is the need to have a mass purge. There need to be major policy changes. This needs to never be able to happen again. I was going to ask, what is the answer? What should Trump do now? And let's just say it. Who are the worst actors? Is it Todd Blanche? Who is it? What do we do? Yeah, you gotta remove Todd Blanche and send him somewhere else. He's stonewalling and, well, like why is this information coming out from Grassley? Why didn't this come out from the Justice Department? Why didn't this come out from the FBI? Why did they hide and sit on these files? Like they did the Epstein files, like they're still doing with the Epstein files. Why did we need Jim Jordan to give us this information? It should have come out from the FBI right away. They should have disclosed how outrageous this is. And everybody who was, anybody who signed off on this should have been fired for cause.

2:40:19 Anybody this was the FBI who's charged with protecting civil rights being the lead agency violating our civil rights. So where does this go down? I mean you think I can get ahold of that need to take me a week me call me Amazing. So what do we do about this? because this new documents is just insane and we have the cross for hurricane and the new stuff from Tulsi Gabbard where Obama ordered it we always knew that I mean, this is smoking gun and Exactly, Trump should tell Kash Patel, everybody who signed off on this is fired. Fired for cause immediately. This was systematic violation of federally protected civil rights. By the way, Serafin's coming up, maybe hold on with him. He pointed out to me this morning, he goes, you know, the actual head of Arctic Frost was still there, they just got rid of his deputy. The son of a bitch is still there.

2:41:04 Not only that, all these local offices that signed off on this. Every local office had an obligation to say no, to say this is a civil rights violation. We're not going here. Look at how many of them are refusing to prosecute James Comey. How many of them are protesting the prosecution of John Bolton? How many of them are protesting the prosecution of Letitia James? And those are legitimate criminals that had legitimate criminal referrals. Here, they didn't object a single moment in the internal documentation to any of this mass violation of federal civil rights. So Kyle Serafin and the other whistleblowers are right. Anybody that's on that list that didn't object, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire. This is cause to be the fire. You gotta have a mass purge of these rogue agents who have co-opted and taken over the hierarchy of the FBI. If we're ever gonna get into that- And if we don't do that, what is the deep state's playbook with Trump in America?

2:41:53 Just to play it out, just to keep dragging it out. Keep them, drag them into Ukraine, drag them into Venezuela, drag them into Israel, drag them into these foreign policy conflicts and slowly, steadily sabotage any effort at reform or remedy. I agree. Look, look, look, I get it's within the Monroe Doctrine and Trump has a right to do it. I'm not for it compared to all the other wars. If he does it, I see why he did. But I'm afraid of a CIA set up, bad pigs. What's your take on Venezuela? Exactly, and it's what it all looks like to me. Fennel doesn't come in from Venezuela, that comes in from China through Mexico. I'm not a fan at all of the Venezuelan government. But we got a country that's the size of Texas. The idea that we're gonna easily conquer, that's filled with left wing radicals, right wing radicals, revolutionaries, paramilitaries, drug cartels. That looks like a disaster inviting President Trump in. And Narco Rubio of cocaine cowboys fame.

2:42:44 That's how his family got wealthy, was through the cocaine cowboys connection in the 80s and 90s. We're gonna let this guy run foreign policy? I mean, it just screams disaster. And for the ordinary American who's struggling to make ends meet, they see all this money and effort spent overseas. They're like, where's me? Where's America first? So it's a big trap. Trump should avoid the big trap. There's other ways to deal with Venezuela, other ways to deal with Maduro. Other ways to deal with- I respect you, and I get it's within his purview, but so you're saying, what does he do about Venezuela? to continue to, I mean, Grinnell actually got a good deal. He got Maduro to capitulate on everything. So as long as Maduro gets to keep the figure ahead of staying in charge, he signs off on everything, China out Russia out all the oil back into the U S that was, what do you think? I like eggs, Seth, what do you think?

2:43:36 I like Hank Syphe, I just think he doesn't quite have the cojones to stand up to the deep state. And I think Rubio and Bessett have co-opted a lot of Trump's foreign policy. You can't trust Bessett because of his deep sorrows ties, and you definitely can't trust Narco Rubio with all of his neocon ties. And I think they're leading the president down a primrose path of peril. I mean, they have him giving a speech today in Korea where he's saying how everything is great. The US economy is great. All the costs are down all the way. It's like, well, that's not the reality. He's got some things under control. So they're not as bad as they were under Biden, but we're still under Biden's depression for working class America. So what do you make of the EBT shut off Saturday and the no kings and the, the, the pedestal plan? What's threatening America right now? What's the big.

2:44:22 They're the same people who are behind this. They've given us a roadmap in Arctic Frost at what we should, what they should have been doing, what we should be doing to them because they are the criminals who they suspected they were accusing us of being. And so look at all the interviews. Just like what T.J. James, a master of mortgage fraud, whatever they accuse us, like you said, you said this years ago and I was like, I knew you were right partially, but no, they only have their knowledge as criminals. So we have to understand these are real criminals. Whatever they accuse us, that's their blueprint. Exactly, so look at the blueprint of what they were accusing people in Arctic Frost of. That's what they are guilty of. That's what the Soros NGOs are guilty of. That's who really fixed the 2020 election, who really corruptly influenced that election, who's trying to corruptly influence our politics right now. So look at the Soros NGOs as Mike Benz details, their connection to the hedge funds, their connection to Wall Street, their connection to these corrupt organizations that are trying to kill the Constitutional Republic of America and do the roadmap of

2:45:18 the real criminality using their roadmap because it's confession through projection. Just like if you took the allegations against Donald Trump, applied it to the Biden family, you had a roadmap of Hunter Biden and Joe Biden's crimes. So the same thing here, take what they tried to allege about an Arctic frost, it is true of them. Yeah, because normal people work with the system, we try to change laws, we don't like them. The left is all about not following laws. Exactly, Mark Bankston should be under criminal investigation for conspiring to deprive people of the federal federally protected civil rights. Conspiracy against rights, right? Conspiracy against rights. Exactly! Because that's what they're doing. That's what the Ku Klux Klan Act of 1871 is about. It's about when public and private participants collude and conspire to deprive ordinary people civil rights. That's what I believe Mark Bankston was part of in the Sandy Hook Law Fair. That's what I believe we see with the Soros-related NGOs concerning Arctic Frost. So, we should refute. I can tell you they're scared, and this is about to break so I can say it,

2:46:15 The criminal investigations were not killed. And it wasn't just, that was a, it was a red herring. There was a whole other group doing it. They all know it now, it's about to break. But they were all tricked into that. Isn't that funny? Well, if there's going to be meaningful remedy, we have no choice but to put these people under the proper and appropriate investigation. Because through confession, through projection, they've laid out the template of how to get them to stop undermining- Hold on, Barnes. Arctic Frost is live. I want you to, if you can stay with us, will you coast a little bit with Roger Stone coming up or Serafin? Yeah, yeah, no problem. All right, you're perfect for this. You're an expert. I got to do this right or I won't be here.

2:53:23 As negative as we are, at least we're getting way more traction than we got five years ago, right? In the last, you know, Trump administration, eight years ago, nine years ago starting. But how do we counter this? What else can we do to stop this tyranny? The advantage of all of this disclosures is it gives the green light to every federal prosecutor, every state prosecutor anywhere in the country now has jurisdiction to look into this. Because this was so systemic, so broad, such a wide drag net that it basically covered every literally part of the nation and almost every person within the country at some level was dragged into this.

2:54:07 Because if you said anything on social media in support of it, if you were in anybody's call log, if you were in a donor list, if you were in an email list, if you were in a text list, you were targeted. This basically targeted all of MAGA throughout the entire nation, was dragged into this investigation and inquiry, violating their federally protected civil rights, intended to intimidate and terrorize them no less than the power of the Klan in the 1870s. And so those state and federal laws give the right and the power of every jurisdiction in the country to look at bringing cases. People should look also at bringing civil cases here, because this was a massive systematic systemic civil rights investigation that involved private and public actors. So it was across the board.

2:54:53 So use it as a roadmap for taking apart the corrupt Soros oriented NGOs for the corrupt rogue actors in the FBI and elsewhere. And everybody's got power and authority to do so at every level of investigatory and prosecutory role. And if they utilize that, then we can get back to the path of fixing this once and for all. Because what this has proven is the need for institutional reform. We need institutional reform at the FBI and the Justice Department. But we need to be able to do institutional reform by using the power that everybody has to bring their own claims in court, for prosecutors and investigators to bring claims as appropriate, because everybody was implicated by this. This was

2:55:35 This was a Klan on steroids. This was Stasi Soviet style lawfare at a level we have never witnessed in the history of the United States. For folks that don't know, you're an expert on this and you literally grew up and did this and fought this and fought the Klan yourself. Representative Wesley Snipes, everything else. The Klan was a pussy group compared to all this, but they were doing it in the South. It was judges, it was lawyers, it was newspapers, it was business people. It wasn't just their ground forces dynamiting black churches or shooting black people. It was a organized crime syndicate. We have laws to counter this and that is literally what the Democrats are doing, which is the party of the KKK. Exactly. Klan Tifa is just an extension of the old KKK. And now we know they weaponized the entire federal government law enforcement apparatus to suppress and censor and take out our civil rights and civil liberties. That is the same stuff that Martin Luther King did with the COINTELPRO. Exactly. In fact, it's just 10 times worse. Is it what Jack Smith and Arctic Frost is COINTELPRO 2.0 or is it 5.0?

2:56:34 That's it's COINTELPRO on steroids. I mean, it's COINTELPRO times two. It's exponential COINTELPRO. That's what this was. That's what this is. And it needs to be exposed as such. Credit to Senator Grassley, credit to Congressman Jordan. We need to see more action from the FBI, need more action from the Justice Department. But everybody should see this as a green light to take action themselves in the civil legal arena and in the criminal legal arena. Well, my lawyers want to talk to you because we already have suits We already got all the documents, we haven't released the big stuff yet. We need to have a conference. We'll fly to Austin, I'll rehire you again. We're ready to go to war. We're ready to follow the lawsuits? Oh, absolutely. No doubt. We have to in order to get real remedy to protect our constitutional republic or it's all done for. Is she ready for the conspiracy against rights lawsuit? Absolutely.

2:57:23 We got DOJ backing on that. Barnes, I'm going to, during the break, give Shad a time to come back on right now. We love you. Robert Barnes. You can find him Viva Barnes law.locals.com. Barnes underscore law. Be sure and follow him. Thank you, Robert Barnes. We love you. Happy to be here. All troops will debark for ground assault. Prepare to target the main generator. Alright! The globalists are the main target and Kyle Serafin, who I've been begging to come on for weeks, has major breaking news about the people above Arctic Frost. They removed the agent that ran it but not the controllers. Then our job is to expose corruption, Democrats, Republicans, we don't give a damn. That's the great part of being a patriot and just being truthful. We don't think about consequences, justice be done by the heavens fall, we expose it. We have

2:59:14 the FBI director and all the things he's involved in and the things he's doing and desperately trying to shut down Kyle Serafin with a viral tweet on X about during the shutdown what is he doing using the private FBI jet to fly for a private party because we can't be the Democrats we have to be better than them and we have to get rid of the dead wood and not sit here and bow down and and because behind the scenes everybody says Todd Blanche is horrible. Everybody says Cash Patel is horrible. Everybody says Pam Bondi is just a person that wants to be on TV, but they're all cowards. They won't say it on air. Well, Kyle Serafin will. I will. But Todd Blanche, long before he killed the investigation a month ago, which he didn't kill, by the way, I'll just leave it at that.

3:00:06 Long before that happened, we knew he would pull that. It's okay because now it's all coming out. But first, I want to look at Timothy R. Teebo, which is not the NFL player and who is still in place. It's our job. Trump doesn't know all this. He has 4 million employees. These white pill cube people, oh, don't question anything. It's all trillion DHS. No, it's not. And Kyle Serafin is not trying to put notches in his belt, but literally he's batting a thousand right now as the most famous FBI whistleblower in history. So much what we know about the deep state attacking Catholics and Christians and raping kids and schools and covering it up is because of him and a few other people. And here he is again, spotlighting a major cockroach. Let's do this first.

3:00:59 his overall take on the new documents that came out on Arctic Frost with myself and others targeted, and this total blueprint of look for gambling, look for campaign finance fraud, look for money laundering, look for anything criminal to all the FBI offices, not just January 6th, which is a Fed's erection, but now this giant dragnet. We have that And then we have them doing this and we have who is actually was in charge of all of this. This is key information. So call Sarah, thank you so much for your time, your own popular podcast and all the great work you do. You can just search engine, call Sarah from the fire daily podcast and more. You got a lot to cover. So I'm gonna try in the 20 minutes we have left to just shut up and let you go. But let's go first before the big news on them so scared of this.

3:01:48 Cash Patel running around in the private jet, millions of dollars a week, you know, all this during the shutdown. Yeah, we're not actually supposed Democrats doing this, we're supposed to be everybody. But first, let's hit this big enchilada call, Sarah. All right, Arctic Frost, right? So you got Chuck Grassley out there talking about it. You got Josh Hawley out there making news. Everybody wants to go out and get a soundbite. Everybody wants to chip in $5 in our email. Can you help me support? We're fighting tyranny, the FBI. We're gonna get it back on track. All this kind of nonsense is BS. And what's troubling is, Alex, and I'm actually gonna disagree with your previous guest. I haven't talked to Barnes about this, but I I think he's overly optimistic about what's happening there. What we are seeing is that the media and even though the right wing coverage of it, generally people who we might agree with on a lot of topics, they are seeing the trees and they're going, look at all these terrible trees. What they are missing is the bigger, broader and more dangerous forest.

3:02:38 And the forest is, the FBI is not like a bunch of people who are partisan actors. They're not a bunch of political hacks that are out there. There are some of them. They remove one, you mentioned Timothy Tebow. So he's on the main front page of that release documents. It's the series of stuff that they declassified and they've released out to the public. It's heavily redacted by the way. Tim Tebow was removed in November of 2022. The guy that replaced Tim Tebow, who continued on with that investigation as the assistant special agent in charge of the criminal branch two over at Washington field office. And that's very specific. So the people who are listening should know who to find. That's Dave Geist. They should be able to find the people that actually were involved in this continuing on. And what they did is they said, yep,

3:03:21 We knocked out a couple of people. We didn't redact the name of Walter Gardena. We didn't redact the name of a couple other people you see on there. If you see on your screen right now, folks, what you're seeing is the cover sheet or the opening for the case of Arctic Frost. And the names that you'll see on there are Brian Turner, who's gone, and Jason Jones, who's gone, and Luis Quesada, who's gone, and Steve DeAntuano, who's gone, and Tim Tebow, who's gone, and Paula Bate, who was the deputy director, and he's gone. What you don't see are the names that are redacted and those redacted people still work for the FBI. That's Tim Tebow right there. He was walked out and my sourcing says that when he left the building at Washington field office, he was in tears. He was forced to retire, but he was a partisan actor. He was a Trump hater. His social media indicated as much. They thought they were getting away with this. Tell us who Dave Geist is. So he was the, uh, the ace act that continued on and took over the position after Tim Tebow left.

3:04:10 So Tebow was exposed for his political tweets and some stuff that he posted on social media that was obviously Trump hating. And it was a bad optic and so they got rid of the guy and so fine, that's what they did. But listen, the FBI is like every other organization. You pull out one piece of management, another person steps in either as an acting or they hire somebody to do that job. Someone gets promoted into the role. And the people that got promoted into those roles, what Barnes was saying is that now we have this ability to go after everybody and we can go out and root out the corruption and find the bad guys. And that sounds really optimistic and rah rah America. I'm a little bit more pessimistic and here's the reason why Alex. I read that document and I saw something that was heavily researched, that was incredibly well thought out, and it was approved at every single level of the federal government to include the Attorney General of the United States, the top person in the DOJ.

3:04:55 What we saw was DOJ buy in, then we saw the DAG, the Deputy Attorney General. We saw the AAG for the criminal branch signed off on it. We saw that the Deputy Director of the FBI, which might as well be the director, it's the number two person, but it has equal power to approve They're a delegate of the actual director of the FBI. Then we saw the ADIC of the field office, which is the top person in that office. We saw the chief division counsel, who's the top attorney. We saw the office of general counsel. We saw the office of the public sector. Every single part of the FBI agreed to it. Every single part of DOJ agreed to it. You also had the postal inspector agree. You had the people who are the National Archives agree.

3:05:31 So all of this stuff, they can be outraged all they want and they can go raise $5 per person and try to do some grassroots fundraising. And everybody from Grassley to Lindsey Graham is gonna go get some money on it. But this was a legal operation. It was actually predicated as a legal operation. The things they did were, strictly speaking, legal. And so the broader picture that most people are not going to grab, and you're not going to hear other people talk about because it's just an incredibly dangerous scenario. And there's nothing that we can really do without a total renovation, something I've been talking about for a while now with you and others. You cannot fix the FBI without fixing the people in the FBI, and we haven't done that. I sent your guys a meme, and the meme is essentially the same sort of like the pitch that Don Draper standing up by a document and he just says, hey, reform, but with the same guys. The same people who worked at the FBI before Trump was in are the same people who worked there before, they're still there. This reform attitude about using the same people is what Cash Patel is gonna fail at.

3:06:31 You can't fix it because the people who work for the FBI don't have the moral character. I totally agree. So you sent me the guy that was the puppet, but you have to help us because I want to put it on screen. The guy that was in charge of him saying Dave Geist. How do you spell that? It's G E I S T. You can't find a picture of him online. He's actually really pretty smart. A lot of these guys have gone and they've reduced their, their footprint. So their LinkedIn's are gone, even though they used to always be out there looking for the next job when they retire, they've realized that we're outing them. We're exposing it. We know the name. It's Dave what? It's golf, echo, India, Sierra, tango, Geist.

3:07:07 I've gone looking for him, I can't find pictures of him. But I know what he did, and I know where he was at. We're spotlighting, he was actually behind Arctic Frost. So I get your saying it's political, they brought him out. But how amazing is it, because we put it through Chad Chibiti, I talked to you, others, this is literally a dragnet. Was there gambling? Was there money laundering? Was there campaign finance? Jack Smith wasn't looking for J6 attacking the Capitol. He was saying to the FBI across the country, find me anything. and then they all signed on to it. So doesn't that open the set of grand juries around the country to investigate this? I think what this does is it shows you that there is a problem with the actual institution because this was strictly speaking a legal operation. You had authorization from the AG, which is a presidential appointee, assigned to do this work. The law supports that. The way that the FBI does business is under the Department of Justice guidelines, which are written up by the Attorney General. It's called the AGG DOM, which is the Domestic Operations Manual. So this is a legal thing. I really respect you. Who are the good people? Who are the bad people?

3:08:08 What is currently happening right now in the administration? Let's just call balls and strikes. I'm not saying you're God, you have all the answers, but I have stuff like this. I have stuff like this. Because I know criminal coverage, I've been on there 31 years. Normally the FBI or even locals put out their case, they know it's a war with the jury. They do, no, we're not releasing anything on Charlie Kirk. And I'm not saying it's a conspiracy, folks. I tend to think it's a leftist, they said they'd kill him, they celebrated all of it. But then 3,000 people gag order all this. Now, Cash Patel shuts down Charlie Kirk foreign intelligence probe, an explosive feud with Trump's counterterrorism chief.

3:08:43 Who wants to look at all of it. What is this? I mean, why would they be actively covering something up if it's not there? So what I understand with this information is that Joe Kent's one of the good guys. This is from people that I trust that have dealt with him, that have spoken to him directly. Joe Kent actually talked to me and he didn't have any reservations with having a short chat with me. The guy who's in charge of counterterrorism, who's working with and on behalf of people in ODNI, and they're looking to try to figure out, hey, what is the intelligence aspect of this? Is there a foreign nation involved? That's what the question has to do. Was Charlie Kirk's killer influenced, operated, goaded, groomed, et cetera, by some foreign nation? Or was it just somebody who was radical online because of what their own ingestion was? Was it organic or was it something that was targeted?

3:09:32 The only way that you do that is you do a full investigation. I sent you guys another piece of it because my instinct is, and I'm just reading between the lines here, the FBI is not well respected over at ODNI. It's part of the intelligence community, and this is something I know from my time there. It's part of the intelligence community that really doesn't fit because it's really supposed to be a law enforcement agency, so they're not very good at doing intelligence. They're dangerous because they have that access and the capability, but it doesn't mean that the people in the intelligence sphere think about them as peers. I'll give you a real quick example. If the FBI were to send what we call a SME or a subject matter expert on fill in the blank, you know, terroristic threat. That person may have two, three years in, they're a youngish analyst, and they're considered an FBI subject matter expert because they've been doing it for a couple of years. When you talk to somebody at CIA, when you talk to somebody at NSA, when you talk to somebody at ODNI that's working this threat, they have 20 plus years under their belt. And it's the only thing that they think about every single day. And they know every aspect of the thing that they'd be worried about. So they're truly subject matter experts. And then we send these kind of half-assed people in from the Bureau, and they sit in the same room and they're totally outclassed with their knowledge base and their experience.

3:10:34 So when when Odi and I wants to look into it, if a Joe Kent wants to look into it and say, hey, can we take a look at what you got going on? The FBI is afraid of being embarrassed regularly. And the same people who are in the FBI that don't want to share information, whether because it exposes them badly because it reflects poorly upon the bureau. It shows an inability to protect threats. There's a lot of reasons why they may want to do it. They don't want to share information with the rest of what's called the USEC. the United States intelligence community. And my instinct is that the foreign nation involvement here, and this is purely my analysis, this is purely my thought process from looking at some of the things that have been going on. We saw those server farms that were cracked out in New York, right? We saw that those things were taken down, there were 100,000 plus SIM cards- So much China? And they were able to take down Telco. This is China, yeah.

3:11:18 And so the odds are is not only can they do taking down of telco networks or shutting down 911 or screwing up with our critical infrastructure, they're also operating sophisticated bot networks that are completely infiltrating the free platforms. Reddit, Discord, Facebook, if you can sign up, these AI bots can now go through the factory authentication. They don't wanna be embarrassed. They don't wanna be part of the, like being exposed for having failed a threat analysis. What we do know is that the FBI was not the lead entity on this bot network situation. That was actually done by HSI. And as I understand it, they didn't go to any of the FBI assets who normally would be the lead investigative unit because they didn't trust that the FBI could either do it or were competent enough to do it or would do it

3:12:02 without being my sense of compromise. What the war for the soul of America's in the Justice Department obviously most powerful thing domestically with the most powerful country in the world What is your grade of Trump right now? Who is the problem in the administration? I mean Okay, you're you Trump calls you in the White House says call Sarah foot which means smart thing What do I do to save America? What do you do? Well, he's never really had good Justice Department picks. And he doesn't have a Justice Department that works on his behalf. It doesn't work on behalf of the Constitution of the American people. So that's the biggest problem. I would reference the Durham report, which was very simple. It said you cannot fix it with policy. You cannot fix it with lots of procedures. What you need are people that are actually going to be 100% dedicated to their oath above anybody who's in the administrations. So that's really hard to do.

3:12:59 And I don't know that you can do it. And I think what the FBI has proven with Arctic Frost, with some of the stuff I've exposed about radical traditionalist Catholics and so on, these problems are not like a rogue case. I heard Barnes used the word like rogue operators. I actually think that this is what the institution does. I think that's what the FBI has always done. In the 19 teens, it went after communists, which we kind of are like, yeah, okay, we don't like communists, but they still have a first amendment right. They went after a lot of different other communists. They went after Japanese in the internment during World War II. They went after people for first amendment protected things. And they've done it through. Then it was Muslims, then it was the best power, now it's Catholics. So let me ask you this. Exactly. You got the floor right now. How does this end with Trump 10 months in,

3:13:40 Yeah, better than eight years ago, but not enough. No kings, the left calls for violence. The EBT is cut off big picture. This is an American as a father, as a husband. Give us the state of the union. We got six minutes to break out the floor. What is the state of America right now? I would love it if Donald Trump zoomed out and didn't go for a win. Because I know a lot of people wanna see retribution and they wanna see certain people in jail and it doesn't look like they're gonna be able to do that. When I'm seeing that case, that case is properly predicated and it's documented very meticulously. I don't think you're gonna get people on there because what they did was strictly speaking legal, that's the biggest thing. So how do you fix the problem when the actual institution is the problem? That's what I see. DOJ,

3:14:22 We probably need it, unfortunately. We probably need a federal prosecution ability, but I'm not confident we need federal law enforcement the way that it is right now. And I certainly don't want to see them doing arrests, and I don't want to see them rounding up Alex Jones or having the director of the FBI's girlfriend sue me. I don't like any of it. I think it's all bad. I think going after people at anti-ICE protests who don't like ICE, they have a right to do that. That's an American right. And what we're doing is we're just pinging the ball from one side of the pendulum to the other side. So now the right's got it. So we're gonna go after Antifa. We could have done that a long time ago. We never did. The FBI should have cases in Portland they could have done and they didn't do it. I think the way that Trump has to address this is

3:14:58 He had Bill Barr come in in February of 2020, and he put in some memos and some policies that was explicitly supposed to stop the politicization and stop political investigations because he just went through it, right? He just went through the Russiagate scandal. And what do they do? In this Arctic Frost document, they actually cite Bill Barr's memo and they went by all the things that were necessary. They checked all the boxes and they still opened the damn case. I think we've proven that the FBI cannot be trusted with the power that the FBI wields. So whether it's reincarnated as a very small, specifically federal law enforcement that cannot touch intelligence, or whether it doesn't exist at all, and we give that money back to the states and we start hiring state officers

3:15:38 to do the job. You got 10 years as a statey, you got 10 years as a state trooper, you're a Texas Ranger, we'll let you do federal prosecutions, we'll deputize you. By the way, we already do that. for task force. I'm not sure that the FBI can be trusted with the power it's had. I've been pretty keen on that for a while, that it's really problematic. Cash Patel is proving to me that he's not the one who's willing to wield it. He's not de-weaponizing. He's trying to get some partisan wins. I mean, he slapped his name for God's sake on every single page that they just released. It says it like some kind of an influencer. It says produced by FBI Director Cash Patel. What is that? We're seeing people try to take political wins on something that should be saying, how do we save this institution? How do we save Americans from having their government targeted? I was about to say, I wish I could advise Patel, be a leader, go off the deep state. People will worship you if that's what you want. Don't play PR games. So let me ask you this big question. You got, well, this is off records, you say what you can say. You put out a tweet that's had millions of views with Kash Patel flying around on the private jet during the shutdown to private events.

3:16:41 We're not trying to bring down the Trump administration, we're trying to keep him honest. The administration, Suzy Wallace got very upset about this if it gets picked up. We're not raising this so it gets picked up, it's already been picked up. We don't wanna act like the bad guys, so give us this huge piece of this. Look, Kash Patel took a private jet that the FBI and you and I pay for. It's a federal government jet, and he flew up to State College to go watch his girlfriend sing a song at a wrestling event. And then he flew and followed her home. And I don't know whether she was on the plane or not. I'm trying to find that out and I will eventually. Flew out to Nashville. I called this out under Chris Wray. That's what you guys are showing on the screen. I've been very consistent. My whistleblower activity on this particular topic of abuse of the FBI's jet was very tuned in on Chris Wray. And I actually sent your producers the actual email whistleblower disclosure, which I think is very ironic.

3:17:29 It's the thing that I sent to Josh Halley's office. It was in November of 2022. And the craziest thing about this email is the first line of it says, and you guys can maybe even zoom in on it. It says, I got your information from Kash Patel. I sat and had a dinner with Kash Patel January of 2023. There were four people at the table. myself included, and what did we talk about, but the abuse of the FBI director's jet. And that is the reason why he took it to True Social and he tweeted out things or he truced out things, whatever you call it, saying that the FBI director's jet should be grounded. It's one of the reasons why I thought he understood the problem. And so the optics are, here's Trump trying to paint this as a Democrat shutdown. I think that's a mistake. I think they should just own it and just destroy the government and get it made really, really small, because you could do it right now.

3:18:15 But they're trying to say this is a Democrat shutdown, that it's Chuck Schumer's fault. And you got Kash Patel flying out to see his girlfriend who's half his age to go sing a song. The maintainers of the jet are not getting paid. The people who fuel the jet are not getting paid. The people who clean the jet are not getting paid. The FBI employees outside of the agents who fly it are not getting paid. And he's out there jet setting like a millionaire or more accurately like a billionaire. And it looks terrible. It's an absolutely terrible optic coming from the same guy who said- Well, the point is, we're not the Democrats to cover up corruption. And so we have to expose- Yeah, he said he was gonna make this go away. This was a thing that he actually told me when we sat face to face, that this was a problem and we're gonna straight it up. And now he's a grand champion. So they're really concerned about this, right? The White House, they get this is really stupid, which is not us highlighting it. We're not bad. This is a problem that shouldn't be being done.

3:19:04 I already got phone calls from the New York Times. I got phone calls from NBC, CBS, everybody who saw it, Bulk Work just did a piece on it as well. I'm pointing out things that are ideologically consistent because I'm not a Democrat and I'm not a Republican. And all I wanna see is nobody waste our money, that's your money and my money that we pay in taxes. And I know you cut a big check every year. Nobody wants to see that money spent on a guy who's running around to hang out with his girlfriend and then he pays the federal government back like 200 bucks for 30 or 50 or $60,000. We don't want a bunch of Hollywood wannabes. We want war. That's right. We want to save the country. And we're not like the Democrats throwing a cult to cover stuff up. It's simple.

3:22:13 And I am proud of the fact that in the last 10 years, every major globalist investigation, every major witch hunt, every major attack plan, I have been on the list and near the top of the list. Because that means I'm over the target. That means I'm giving them hell. There's only a few people though, that on average have been above me in some of the lists, or a little bit jealous of, that's Roger Stone, General Flynn, Donald Trump. But seriously, this Arctic Frost stuff comes out, huge hundreds of pages, And the key that's only getting picked up now, we put it through chat GPT. I talked to FBI sources that can read the codes, because a lot of this stuff is just codes at the top. It's all blacked out.

3:22:55 Mass surveillance, gambling, campaign finance, money laundering, drugs. They were like all FBI nationwide, January 6th, members of Congress, Trump supporters, his lawyers, Alex Jones, Roger Stone, Steve Bannon, find us something, put them in prison. Nixon had like 115 names or whatever it was. Roger was his confidant as the expert to tell me how he was like 100 and something names in a safe. And it was a note about he thought about using the IRS on people. We had the Obama administration target tens of thousands of Republican nonprofits and NGOs, hundreds of thousands of Republican voters. They bragged on MSNBC, well, you're Republicans, you deserve it. So they've always been thousands of times worse than Republicans.

3:23:52 But the biggest takeaway is all these witch hunts against Roger Stone and countless other people. And now this new one, not just crossfire hurricane, but Arctic frost. They targeted hundreds of Republican law firms, Trump supporters, journalists like myself. In many cases, warrantless searches had my phone and they found nothing. Well, no shit Sherlock. Everything I say is on air. I've been on air five hours today, I did hours this morning. I'll be on it midnight tonight with Gigi Ping coverage. But again, they project on us like Jasmine Crockett who has secret bank accounts, secret stock portfolios. That's a felony to lie about that. But will she be indicted? Don't hold your breath.

3:24:48 So these people project their own criminology onto us. They think we're like them and imagine how they feel. Thousands of investigations, probably billions spent and they can't get anything because we're not scum like you. We don't break laws. When we disagree, we change laws. A little bit different. We don't break laws, we change laws. Like getting rid of tax on baristas, and bartenders, and masseuses, and waiters, and witnesses. Yeah, we don't break laws, we change laws. So Roger Stone's with us to the end of the show, really appreciate him joining us. With the auto pen scandal, all of it illegitimate, top level house investigation unit, Arctic Frost, total proof of weaponization beyond just trying to

3:25:51 find something about election or whatever. This is insane. And the question is what comes next? Rogerstone of stonezone.com, Trump's former top political advisor and 50 year confidant, Roger Stone. Where do we start here? I mean, this is just insane. Alex, wait, wait one minute here. Hold on. Well, there we go. Methylene blue. Stuff's unbelievable, man. I'm putting in 16, 18 hour days. I got unbelievable focus and no, Alex doesn't pay me to say this and he didn't know I was going to say it. Now let's go to the top. Roger, we are in the elite club to be the most targeted. I mean, are you kind of proud of yourself?

3:26:30 Well, Alex, you're right about this grand tradition. Franklin Delano Roosevelt used the IRS to harass his political enemies very famously. John Kennedy defeated, Senator John Kennedy defeated Vice President Richard Nixon in 1960. It was not coincidental that Nixon got a random audit in 61, 62, only ending after, 63, only ending after Jack Kennedy was dead. You saw, I admit I didn't declare one thing. It was a Congress spaniel. Exactly. As we know, Obama weaponized the IRS against conservative and Tea Party organizations and other libertarian and right-leaning groups. But this is beyond all of that. Remember when Nixon had the enemies list? Let's be very clear. There was no enemies list. This was basically a concoction of John Dean, who, as you know, was the guy who planned, pushed, covered up the Watergate break-in.

3:27:33 And once he decided to move left and try to become a whistleblower on his own illegal actions, he was the one who invented the idea of an enemy's list. But the left went insane, they went completely insane. Now it's also true that Nixon often talks in the Watergate tapes about using the IRS against people, but there's no evidence that Bob Haldeman and his chief staff ever carried out those orders. So, but this is an extraordinary thing where the National Republican Association of Attorney Generals, Infowars, General Flynn. I mean, it is beyond ridiculous. Ed Martin, who's currently at the Justice Department, Dan Scavino, the head of the Office of Presidential Personnel, one of the original Trump's-. Is this not a blueprint of who the patrons are?

3:28:29 It is, but I mean, targeted with what probable cause? You just don't like our politics? That's the irony here. is on a rampage of revenge and retaliation against those who try to keep him accountable. No, Trump is insisting that those who broke the law and violated the Constitution beyond belief, spied on him, spied on his campaign, later spied on Republican senators, that those people be held accountable. And if they've broken the law, they should be prosecuted. There's no question that Comey, Clapper, Brennan, Rice, Obama, Biden, Mueller, Rosenstein, these people engaged in a seditious conspiracy. Let's see if a grand jury-. I agree with these documents even above Crossfire Hurricane. These are so bombshell. They're literally saying we have his phone without a warrant. They're literally saying, find any crime, get them. I can't believe they admitted this on record. This is total weaponization admitted.

3:29:31 No, I look, they tried to they tried to destroy the people whose voices are loudest. This is why they came after him for wars. That's why they've gone through all these bogus defamation actions, which all you ever did was exercise your First Amendment right. So I mean it is certainly one after me you see it went after General Flynn. How is the people on the list there were targets. Yes I think that's abundantly clear but it's consistent with with Jack Smith's entire. Let's say, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, not illegal, illegal and unconstitutional efforts to remove Donald Trump. When, when a federal prosecutor is coordinating with state prosecutors in Georgia, uh, and, uh, and Arizona and Nevada,

3:30:18 to bring, in New York particularly, to bring all of these ridiculous litigations when there is no violation of crimes. The formation of an alternate elector state is a constitutional and legally protected act. It was done in the election of 1877 multiple times. Richard Nixon and John Kennedy had a fight over this. It appeared on election night that Nixon had carried Hawaii. Kennedy insisted once the absentees were counted, he would be the victor. He formed an alternative elector slate. It was good for him. Yeah, it's totally normal, all legal. So now Senator Grassley just gave an update. Sorry, go ahead.

3:30:59 Jack Smith twisted that into a crime, it is not a crime. So Grassley just gave an update, now we learn that Sinclair, Newsmax, not just you and I, not just Steve Bannon, Laura Trump, everybody, this was exactly what I was told by DOJ sources months ago, it was a dragnet to put thousands of us in jail. This is treason. It certainly sounds like it to me. I mean, Sinclair, Newsmax, they're really going for, and Infowars obviously, they're going for the guts of any alternative reporting that reaches millions and millions of peoples and motivates them, particularly as Fox has decided to, whatever they're doing, moving to the center or whatever you want to call it. So what happens now that this is all coming out?

3:31:45 Well, that depends, I think, solely on our Justice Department. Let's kind of start at the beginning. The Russian collusion hoax has now been completely and totally exposed by declassifications by Tulsi Gabbard to be a fraud. The head of the Central Intelligence Agency- And Obama, the documents directed it, like smoking gun. It is there. The CIA director exposes the role of John Brennan. So the question is a simple one. Were those who engaged in the greatest single dirty trick in American history, those who engaged in the greatest single abuse of power

3:32:20 in American history, a seditious conspiracy that is born in the White House or in a meeting that Obama presides over. And all of the co-conspirators there, Comey, Clapper, Brennan, Rice, and so on. And that conspiracy goes all the way through the Russian collusion hoax to completely fabricated and phony impeachment trials. Then we go into the January 6th offense erection. And then we go into the documents case in which the president is entitled to have any document he wants under the Presidential Records Act. Judge Amy Berman Jackson, who was the judge in my case, ruled for Bill Clinton in an action in that regard. Bill kept classified documents in his sock drawer. So why they raided Mar-a-Lago is pretty clear. To get back the documents,

3:33:12 that incriminated them. Which you first predicted, so here's the bottom line. Documents that Tulsi Gabbard has now declassified. So here's the bottom line, you got the floor right now, it's for the 10 minutes we have left. Where are we? What do we need to do? You have them with the EBTs about to be shut off, the SNAP, they're in desperate record low approval rating, record low fundraising, they're in total panic mode, all they want is civil war, everything's coming unraveled. What's gonna happen next? What should we do? Well, a couple of things I think are important. First of all, for the base of people who believe in Donald Trump and justice, people who want to see accountability and justice.

3:33:49 then this Justice Department needs to move ahead to put this information in front of a grand jury. I would argue that because it's a conspiracy that runs all the way to the Mar-a-Lago raid, which they go through Melania's panty draw, just as they went through my wife's garment draw, this can go to a grand jury in the Southern District of Florida. And I think you get a fair trial there as well. So, but is that happening? Is there somebody empowered to do that? I don't know. It's not a matter of public record. But I think the people who love Donald Trump and love this country think that the Brennans and the Clappers and the Comeys and the Rosensteins and Obama and Biden themselves need to be held accountable.

3:34:40 And this idea that that's revenge or retaliation is nonsensical. And for them to say that we're the ones weaponizing the criminal justice system, this is like the entire American public had amnesia. Are they really that stupid? Because their crimes are so completely and totally naked. So this is why I think, for example, that the New York Attorney General, Letitia James, should be prosecuted for mortgage fraud and bank fraud. She says that this is rarely prosecuted. But she herself has prosecuted people in New York for this exact crime. So I think that trial should go forward. I'm still vexed by the question of Adam Schiff. It is very clear, these are all public documents. That he claimed- And Maryland, for those who don't know, we have the internal DOJ people saying there's not evidence even though they have it ready to indict. They're blocking it again, which goes back to the DOJ. We got to name names at a certain time. I know we're trying to approximate exactly who's behind this, but

3:35:43 The good news is Trump is impatient. He's not going to put up with this very long. Look, I think the president has promised the people justice and I think he expects that those in the... But he needs us to spotlight who we think is bad so he makes the right decision. Well, look, we have an attorney general, we have a deputy attorney general. And it is up to them, working with Cash Patel and the FBI to move forward. Now, for all we know, that's happening. There may be a grand jury and panel that we're unaware of, or there may be deposition or subpoenas, pardon me, in say the Brennan case. I'm sure you saw Brennan was referred

3:36:21 of Letitia James prosecutes Donald Trump under a state law in which no one has ever in the history of the state been prosecuted, claiming that he inflated the value of his assets that he used as collateral for real estate development. On paid off debts. The banks said, that's very nice of Mr. Trump. We'll do our own due diligence. They look at his properties. They determine him to be credit worthy. They make $40 million in interest. He pays them back on time.

3:37:12 So where's the crime? Who is the victim? No, there is no crime. So let me ask you this big picture. Let me ask you a big picture. How do we, what about the EBT being cut off? The Democrats record low fundraising, record low poll numbers. They're losing. They're dying as a party. Election fraud being exposed. What do we need to be worried about? What are they about to pull? Well, there's one other key point here and I think that would will contribute to the downfall of the of the Democratic left. And that is there needs to be full investigation and accountability regarding Act Blue. Act Blue is the is the payment process. Red handed. This thing that they have used. Totally illegal.

3:37:51 Extraordinary numbers of strange money. I mean, this has many facets. You can go to find a woman in Las Vegas or outside Las Vegas who gave to a U.S. Senate Democrat in Florida 27 times. When you go knock on her door, she doesn't know who you're talking about and that's not her credit card. That kind of thing, but to the nth degree, then huge amounts of money from the Soros and others that are siphoned in in the case of small and medium-sized contributions. That's what the pattern of investigation by James O'Keefe and others shows. Yeah, that's the question. Where do we attack the deep state?

3:38:28 I think that cuts off a huge amount of their phony campaign funding. Look, Mamdani is a perfect example of this, Alex. Mamdani is not some grassroots phenomenon. It turns out Obama, Muslim Brotherhood. Yeah, I mean, but just the financing of it. It is a very strange interlocking connection of nonprofits, a C-501C4s, 501C3s, political parties shifting money back and forth. It's all a contrivance. This guy is an internet sensation, right? He's all over Instagram. He's all over TikTok. How come in his first campaign finance report, not a single person bothered to go to his website and punch the contribute button? Not one?

3:39:09 Hmm, and then they very quickly amended their report. All this money's caught in a ton of lies. Isn't he good overall as a referendum on the Democrats though? I almost hope he gets elected. Well, we'll talk about the impact of his election. I feel very badly for the people of New York because this is a guy who has been very clear. He's going to defund the police. He's opposed to cash bail of any kind. He says the criminals, the only purpose to incarcerate criminals is to please their victims. This is a guy who's already announced he's going to pay for all of his free giveaways after he nationalizes the grocery stores.

3:39:47 by raising taxes on white people. He said-. Yeah, the guy is a political suicide bomber. There's no question about it. So this is not going to be good for New York. Large employers will leave, small employers will just close. There'll be a huge mass exodus of property values will go down. Property values in the suburbs will go up. Many people already moving to Florida. Many people already moving to Florida. So, this is going to be a disaster. If the voters want to see what happens when you elect communists, when you elect jihadi communists in this case, you'll just look at New York City. So, what is your prediction? Is he going to win?

3:40:31 I believe I'm afraid that he does. Yes. Look, Andrew Cuomo is is just weak toast and it wasn't killing old people and doing all it's like, why can't the Democrats feel something real? But it's even worse than that, Alex. This is a man who actually said if you believe in the right to bear arms or you support the right to life, there's no place for you in New York. You need to leave here. That's what he said. I morally oppose somebody bad, so I oppose Mondani with 100%, but I also sit back sick going when he crashes New York, this is a referendum for 2026, 2028, right?

3:41:06 No, the whole world will be able to see this is what happens. This will be the classic example. This will be exhibit A in the fact that socialism and communism don't work. The city's going to be a wreck by the time of the next presidential election. Yes, we fight him out of percent. We don't take a dive, but then, all right, you know. Well, I mean, look, you're going to have a progressive majority on the city council. And it's very clear that Governor Hochul, who does have huge financial strings on the mayor based on the way New York state government, city and state government is financed, is clearly not going to stand up to him because she needs the support of the far left to survive her own upcoming governor. So the left is fully taking control of Democrats.

3:41:49 They're not gonna reform like Bill Maher wished they would, they're gonna get worse. So what is the Democratic Party about to turn into? Just howling even more psychopathic? Let me tell you something, Alex. When AOC calls Chuck Schumer, Chuck breaks into a cold sweat, okay? Kathy Hochul, who's got some of the highest unfavorable ratings, she was lieutenant governor. She was a gift left to the people of New York by Andrew Cuomo when he was forced out of office. And he quit just ahead of impeachment, not because he jammed COVID patients into nursing homes, which is what I think he should have gone down for, but for playing grab ass with women, allegedly, which he denies.

3:42:32 He had $6 million left over, so he's running for this office. He's out of gas, in my view. He has the second highest unfavorable ratings of the three candidates. Currently, he's substantially lower. The only guy- So let me ask you a closing. What happens to Mondami then? So he's going to be the mayor. What happens to him? I think he immediately is deified by the left and he starts defunding the police and starts trying to collect the money to give free stuff to illegal- And then New York descends into hell. And he clashes with ICE, which is something that hasn't happened in New York but will now happen in New York. Because remember, the mayor controls the police department. The police department here is already pretty corrupt. But they can't think that's a referendum in 2026 and 2028?

3:43:22 It is exactly that. That's why it's horrible for New Yorkers. It's going to give the American people- Why does the left always only think one dimensional? Why can't they think next order? I don't get that. Look, I don't think that this is, you're criticizing people who have systematically taken over the old Democrat party of John F. Kennedy and Harry Truman. So they feel emboldened. Turned it into a Marxist league. So they think they're invincible. Well, I mean, first of all, they are member. These are people who are very sick with Trump derangement syndrome. So their political thinking is not all that straight. But to them, Bernie Sanders is, you know, is a hero. And he's.

3:44:06 That tired old socialist windbag, you know, is back for another cycle with his sidekicks, Jasmine Crockett and AOC. That is the face of the Democrat primary. Well, good luck for them. All right, Roger, we'll talk to you soon. The war room is coming up with Harrison Smith. Stonezone.com, incredible job. And I want to come back on ABC. Great response. Number one show in the country now, Cinecadet Radio. Great job, Roger Stone. Everybody find his information at stonezone.com. All right. Harris is about to take over. Look, the Democrats are on a suicide mission. They think they can take us with them. As long as we're not violent, we're loving, we tell the truth, we're gonna win, okay? Just pray to Jesus. All right, I'm out of time. There's one variable that stops us from winning. This isn't hype. This show delivers. This is like the OG operation. Our guests, everything. Go to theologiestore.com.

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