FULL INTERVIEW: Nick Fuentes Responds To Trump Blowing Up At A Reporter For Asking About The Epstein Case Cover-Up Firestorm

00:00 It left some lingering mysteries. One of the biggest ones is whether he ever worked for an American or foreign intelligence agency. The former Labor Secretary who was Miami U.S. Attorney Alex Kostak, he allegedly said that he did work for an intelligence agency. So could you resolve whether or not he did? And also, could you say why there was a minute missing from the jailhouse tape on the night of the attack? Yeah, sure. If I could, I just said, sure. Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? This guy's been talked about for years. You're asking, we have Texas, we have this, we have all of the things. And are people still talking about this guy, this creep? That is unbelievable.

00:46 Do you want to waste the time? Do you feel like answering? I don't mind answering. I mean, I can't believe you're asking a question on Epstein at a time like this where we're having some of the greatest success and also tragedy with what happened in Texas. It just seems like a desecration. But you go ahead. Sure. Sure. First, to back up on that, in February, I did an interview on Fox, and it's been getting a lot of attention because I said, I was asked a question about the client list and my response was, it's sitting on my desk to be reviewed, meaning the file along with the JFK, MLK files as well. That's what I meant by that.

01:30 Also to the tens of thousands of video they turned out to be child porn downloaded by that disgusting Jeffrey Epstein. Child porn is what they were never going to be released, never going to see the light of day. To him being an agent, I have no knowledge about that. We can get back to you on that. And the minute missing from the video, we released the video showing definitively the video was not conclusive, but the evidence prior to it was showing he committed suicide. And what was on that, there was a minute that was off the counter. And what we learned from Bureau of Prisons was every year, every night,

02:12 They redo that video, it's old, from like 1999. So every night the video is reset and every night should have the same minute missing. So we're looking for that video to release that as well, showing that a minute is missing every night. And that's it on Epstein. Yeah, it's a complete disaster. And I said this on my show last night, this is actually the opposite of what they promised they would do. This is actually worse than what was done under Biden or under the previous Trump administration because this is an active cover up. They're burying the story. And it would be one thing, I think people might have this expectation if they indefinitely put this off. They just never addressed it again. They never did a phase two reveal. Maybe they left it open to interpretation.

02:55 But now they're coming out and they're effectively lying about it. And they're denying all the critical aspects of the story, even the ones that we know are true. They came out yesterday and not only did they say there'd be no phase two revelations after the embarrassing debacle with the binders earlier in the year. But they're saying there is no client list at all. And as a matter of fact, Jeffrey Epstein wasn't even involved in blackmail. We know that's not true. His entire apartment and the island and all his residences were loaded up with cameras, with microphones. We've seen the photos of the videotape recording equipment, the boxes of tapes. We have the testimony from his accusers, the various people he sex trafficked. They all testified, he recorded all this stuff. What would be the purpose of it other than blackmail?

03:43 He got charged not once but twice in the mid 2000s and then again in the late 2010s for procuring minors for the purpose of sex trafficking and sex trafficking. So he's finding minors, trafficking them for sex, recording the sexual encounters at his residences with powerful people. that are on the private jet, they're on the island, they're on the residence. And they're telling us, even though there's sex trafficking, there's no clients. Even though there's powerful people on the flight logs, there's no client list. Even though he's a sex trafficker, it wasn't a blackmail ring. This is stuff that we know is not true. And I don't think I'm the only one to point out

04:22 The timing is a little bit conspicuous. Of course, Jeffrey Epstein, his main accomplice, Jelaine Maxwell, is the daughter of Mossad super spy Robert Maxwell. He was close with Les Wexner, the Jewish billionaire who's in the mega group, which is a mega large group of Jewish pro-Israel billionaires. All of this- I don't forget the Israeli Prime Minister caught over and over again with Epstein at his dungeon. Exactly, and the connections are deep and vast. And this story was buried the day before Netanyahu's third visit to the White House on 7-7, July 7th. I just don't believe in coincidences like this. And so it's clearly a cover up. And that clip that you just showed of Trump in the cabinet meeting,

05:05 It's embarrassing. It's embarrassing. It's shocking. Every Trump supporter should feel humiliated at this point. And it's like you said, I don't take any pleasure in this. I feel a little bit vindicated about it. I want Trump to succeed. I want these disclosures to happen. And what's interesting is that Trump typically is a master of these types of media spin. He's usually very adept and very quick on his feet and the master of rhetoric. And this is maybe the first time when there's such a disconnect between what the base is feeling and what's gonna play well in the media and what he's saying. In his mind, maybe he thought this was like a really persuasive angle to say, why are we talking about this? There's bigger issues to talk about.

05:48 Such a completely tone deaf and bizarre. I said on Twitter, okay, poker face. I mean, as if we don't know what's going on here. So it's honestly, it stinks. This is maybe the most embarrassing thing yet so far in the Trump administration in the second term. The government fears Alex Jones, who has the largest audience in the country, bigger than any of the networks, the biggest megaphone in the country. The deep state hates Alex Jones with a vengeance. Alex Jones is the most extraordinary person I've ever met. All right, my friends, we are now into our number three of this Tuesday, July 8th, 2025 transmission. And something happened yesterday

05:05 It's embarrassing. It's embarrassing. It's shocking. Every Trump supporter should feel humiliated at this point. And it's like you said, I don't take any pleasure in this. I feel a little bit vindicated about it. I want Trump to succeed. I want these disclosures to happen. And what's interesting is that Trump typically is a master of these types of media spin. He's usually very adept and very quick on his feet and the master of rhetoric. And this is maybe the first time when there's such a disconnect between what the base is feeling and what's gonna play well in the media and what he's saying. In his mind, maybe he thought this was like a really persuasive angle to say, why are we talking about this? There's bigger issues to talk about.

05:48 Such a completely tone deaf and bizarre. I said on Twitter, okay, poker face. I mean, as if we don't know what's going on here. So it's honestly, it stinks. This is maybe the most embarrassing thing yet so far in the Trump administration in the second term. The government fears Alex Jones, who has the largest audience in the country, bigger than any of the networks, the biggest megaphone in the country. The deep state hates Alex Jones with a vengeance. Alex Jones is the most extraordinary person I've ever met. All right, my friends, we are now into our number three of this Tuesday, July 8th, 2025 transmission. And something happened yesterday

06:35 that I predicted and it wasn't hard to predict, is gonna become the major scandal of the 47th presidency of the United States. I don't like it. I need Trump to succeed. For heaven's sakes, if the Democrats get back in, they are gonna indict me and try to put me in prison. They've said it. I mean, I got skin in the game here. I have been persecuted for supporting Trump massively in the last nine and a half years. And it's been intense. And a lot of you've been put through hell. And overall, I love what he's doing on so many fronts. But when he started having Mangino and Patel and the rest of them in the last few months start doing a 180 from, oh yeah, we got 14 terabytes of child rape and torture and all these perpetrators that were involved, we're gonna get them all.

07:29 And then to see really ham-fisted spin by Pam Bondi today, the clip we're about to play, after Trump snaps the reporter and gives him the laser eyes, which you don't see very often anymore, that is only going to bring Massive attention onto this and there are two my congressional hearings and all the rest of it and just the whopper of oh Look, here's the video of a round the door. You can't see Epstein's jail, but his cell but look see he killed himself And oh look the guy in Butler acted alone and oh look there was no black book. There were no clients There was no black. No, there was no human trafficking, but Gisela Maxwell is convicted of human trafficking and I said yesterday I said this is Trump

08:17 He's made a deal with the globalists to back off of him if he doesn't prosecute this. They think it'll bring down the stock market, they bring it out. I see the pragmatic argument, I don't agree with it, but I war game the mindset. I didn't defend it, it's something to try to spend. But I said, if he puts a statement out today or tomorrow saying, no, I want it investigated and countermanding his people, then this means that his folks have been compromised by the deep state. But I said, I predict he's gonna defend this, and sure as hell he came out About four o'clock, I've been off the air about an hour, and a crew member walks up and hands me the post on True Social. And I just sat down and read it and got a splitting headache. And usually stressful stuff doesn't do that to me. A sinking feeling again. President Trump praises FBI Director Cash Patel and Dan Bongino as outrage grows over Epstein whitewash report. DOJ says there's no evidence client list as it backs off promise releases. And he got me quoted in the Wall Street Journal, the FBI's

09:28 Monday explanation failed to satisfy many of the more conspiracy minded MAGA influencers. No one is buying this in full wars. Thomas Alex Jones said on X next to the OJ will say actually Jeffrey Epstein never existed. This is over the top sickening. So here's the clip from a few hours ago that's gone mega viral of Trump pretty much blowing up going off on a reporter. We'll get Nick Foyntes take on this straight away. Here it is. It left some lingering mysteries. One of the biggest ones is whether he ever worked for an American or foreign intelligence agency. The former Labor Secretary who was Miami U.S. Attorney Alex Kosta, he allegedly said that he did work for an intelligence agency. So could you resolve whether or not he did? And also, could you say why there was a minute missing from the jailhouse tape on the night of the attack? Yeah, sure. If I could. Can I just interrupt for a second? Sure.

10:27 Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? This guy's been talked about for years. You're asking, we have Texas, we have this, we have all of the things. And are people still talking about this guy, this creep? That is unbelievable. Do you want to waste the time? Do you feel like answering? I don't mind answering. I mean, I can't believe you're asking a question on Epstein at a time like this where we're having some of the greatest success and also tragedy with what happened in Texas. It just seems like a desecration. But you go ahead. Sure, sure. First, to back up on that, in February, I did an interview on Fox, and it's been getting a lot of attention because I said,

11:11 I was asked a question about the client list and my response was, it's sitting on my desk to be reviewed, meaning the file along with the JFK, MLK files as well. That's what I meant by that. Also to the tens of thousands of video, they turned out to be child porn downloaded by that disgusting Jeffrey Epstein. Child porn is what they were never going to be released, never going to see the light of day. To him being an agent, I have no knowledge about that. We can get back to you on that. And the minute missing from the video, we released the video showing definitively the video was not conclusive, but the,

11:57 evidence prior to it was showing he committed suicide. And what was on that, there was a minute that was off the counter. And what we learned from Bureau of Prisons was every year, every night, they redo that video. It's old, from like 1999. So every night the video is reset and every night should have the same minute missing. So we're looking for that video to release that as well, showing that a minute is missing every night. And that's it on Epstein. All right, there's a lot to unpack here. And I've got a pretty good idea what's going on. In fact, I know a lot of listeners were blaming Pam Bondi. Oh, throw her over the bus. She just misspoke on over skis. No, this confirmed they have this stuff. OK, so no, it's Trump. And you see that there and you see it with a statement about the FBI doing a great job. Now they can move on to do more important things.

12:52 This is crazy Nick J. Foyntes popular talk show host and the leader of America first Find him on rumble at Nick J. Foyntes and of course on X a Nick. Thanks for coming on It's good to have you here, but not a good situation. I got to tell you I know you want Trump to succeed, you know, so do I But wow, this is just something else I can't defend this or not talk about this because my soul isn't for sale and I just feel dirty even watching this Yeah, it's a complete disaster. And I said this on my show last night, this is actually the opposite of what they promised they would do. This is actually worse than what was done under Biden or under the previous Trump administration because this is an active cover up, they're burying the story. And it would be one thing, I think people might have this expectation if they indefinitely put this off, they just never addressed it again, they never did a phase two reveal, maybe they left it open to interpretation.

13:47 But now they're coming out and they're effectively lying about it. And they're denying all the critical aspects of the story, even the ones that we know are true. They came out yesterday and not only did they say there'd be no phase two revelations after the embarrassing debacle with the binders earlier in the year. But they're saying there is no client list at all. And as a matter of fact, Jeffrey Epstein wasn't even involved in blackmail. We know that's not true. His entire apartment and the island and all his residences were loaded up with cameras, with microphones. We've seen the photos of the videotape recording equipment, the boxes of tapes. We have the testimony from his accusers, the various people he sex trafficked. They all testified he recorded all this stuff. What would be the purpose of it other than blackmail?

14:35 He got charged not once but twice in the mid 2000s and then again in the late 2010s for procuring minors for the purpose of sex trafficking and sex trafficking. So he's finding minors, trafficking them for sex, recording the sexual encounters at his residences with powerful people. that are on the private jet, they're on the island, they're on the residence. And they're telling us, even though there's sex trafficking, there's no clients. Even though there's powerful people on the flight logs, there's no client list. Even though he's a sex trafficker, it wasn't a blackmail ring. This is stuff that we know is not true. And I don't think I'm the only one to point out

15:14 The timing is a little bit conspicuous. Of course, Jeffrey Epstein, his main accomplice, Jelaine Maxwell, is the daughter of Mossad super spy Robert Maxwell. He was close with Les Wexner, the Jewish billionaire who's in the mega group, which is a mega large group of Jewish pro-Israel billionaires. Don't forget the Israeli Prime Minister caught over and over again with Epstein at his dungeon. Exactly, and the connections are deep and vast. And this story was buried the day before Netanyahu's third visit to the White House on 7-7, July 7th. I just don't believe in coincidences like this. And so it's clearly a cover up. And that clip that you just showed of Trump in the cabinet meeting,

15:57 It's embarrassing. It's embarrassing. It's shocking. Every Trump supporter should feel humiliated at this point. And it's like you said, I don't take any pleasure in this. I feel a little bit vindicated about it. I want Trump to succeed. I want these disclosures to happen. And what's interesting is that Trump typically is a master of these types of media spin. He's usually very adept and very quick on his feet and the master of rhetoric. And this is maybe the first time when there's such a disconnect between what the base is feeling and what's gonna play well in the media and what he's saying. In his mind, maybe he thought this was like a really persuasive angle to say, why are we talking about this? There's bigger issues to talk about.

16:40 such a completely tone deaf and bizarre. I said on Twitter, okay, poker face. I mean, as if we don't know what's going on here. So it's honestly, it stinks. This is maybe the most embarrassing thing yet so far in the Trump administration in the second term. And you gotta wonder what is going through his head? What are his advisors telling him? Is it that he's so cloistered on true social and an echo chamber that this is just the pinnacle of exuberance? Is this like a God complex type hubris where he really thinks anything goes now? He can get away with anything. I'm really just not sure what the mindset is here, but it just seems like one thing after the next. We just got done with the Iran war controversy. I came on today to talk about immigration, and we maybe have a disagreement, but the base is outraged about this.

17:33 only to get caught up in now the latest, newest scandal, a new controversy about something that should have been a grand slam, release the documents. And now he's actually not only not releasing them, but actually burying the story and doing this bizarre spin running cover for it saying no one should even be talking about it. The guy's a creep standing on the graves of the people dead in Texas. This is some golden age, this is some start to the second term. I hate it and I like you, I mean, look, I don't say these things because I'm rooting for his downfall. I'm in no way, shape or form in any way taking any kind of pleasure in Trump crashing and burning like this. I want him to succeed. I want the country to succeed. Like you, I was a major Trump supporter.

18:22 In 2016 and 2020, I had high hopes. I have an authentic belief in him and in this entire movement and MAGA and America First. But we have to call spade a spade. We have to be sober. We have to be objective. We have to be in reality. It's like you said, this is just indefensible. And so I, like many other people, some who supported Trump in this cycle, many who didn't, I'm sitting here asking what exactly is going on in this administration? It's a complete disaster. So I hope they reverse course on this. I have no confidence that they will. And I, like you, believe that clearly there's some sort of deal that's going on. And it's hard to say, do they have something over his head? Does he have something over their head?

19:06 Of course, it's all speculative. We can't know for sure. All we can do is- You're on fire right now. I wasn't going to interrupt you, but your camera's been out of focus for about five minutes. I want to be able to go back to you. I want you to stop where you are right there. Oh, I apologize. It's okay. I want you to stop right there because I want to get into the big question. What type of deal has been made? I think it's overwhelmingly clear it has happened. Enlisters were like, no, it's not Trump here. Stay. It's Bondi. She messed up. No, it's Trump. We're not here to BS people. And we've got to get a course correction here. And, you know, obviously I'm going to support Trump on the good things. I'm not going to support him on the bad things. We're not like the Democrat Party cult that, that.

19:46 will go along with whatever their leaders do and say Joe Biden's the smartest man in the world and the smartest he's ever been. And this new Joe Biden is the best Joe Biden. And we're not gonna say two men can have a baby. I mean, if Trump came out and said that, I'd say he's crazy. Okay, so this is kind of approaching that level of gaslighting here. And it's obviously no one's buying it regardless. And so we have to then logically say, why has this been done? But again, look at Mondi saying, I meant this, I meant that. No, she was very clear in undercover videos and in press conferences months and months and months ago that no, we've got hundreds of new victims and kids getting raped and Epstein doing it on and on and on. And now they try this massive spin and then the Democrats are gonna come in on this even though they're all implicated. And this is gonna be the big scandal. And so, and I said yesterday, Trump better say, no, no, keep an investigation going because obviously they really wanted to cover it up.

20:40 Then they would just say, oh, it's an endless investigation forever and it would just go away. This was hole in one Tiger Woods level skill at blowing your own feet off. I mean, this is a perfect, perfect 100. If you wanted to take all this success and all of the incredible things that are happening and flush it down the toilet, burn it up, throw it in the garbage. Here's a clip of Pam Bonnie and we'll go back to Nick Fuentes. James Comer said yesterday that all the Epstein files are missing. You still haven't heard from him? No, no. The FBI, yeah, the FBI, they're reviewing, there are tens of thousands of videos.

21:21 Epstein with children or child porn. And there are hundreds of victims and no one victim will ever get released. It's just the volume and that's what they're going through right now. The FBI is diligently going through that. I haven't seen that statement, but I'll call him later and find out. And it goes on and on. So, Nick, you're back. Start over and then let's get to the big central issue, wargaming. And some listeners don't understand this. Some people on the next few days, they go, well, wait, if it's blackmail info, how would Trump now be in control of the blackmail info to control the deep state? Because the deep state globalists, Brennan, Obama, we know who was running the Clintons were using that to control

22:05 politicians, scientists, bankers. So now if Trump gets that file, kind of like when J. Edgar Hoover died and then Nixon got the file, that's the whole point. And so people need to understand how this works. And clearly the question would always be, will Trump use the Epstein files, if they weren't all destroyed, which we know they got a bunch of them, to then blackmail the deep state? Or would he bring them all down with it? And now I think we've got the answer of where it's going. Nick, go ahead. Yeah, I totally agree. And there's also something clear, which is I think Trump is worried about what's in the files. And we have some evidence about that. And I've seen your analysis on this. And I agree in some sense that if there was anything that would indict Trump inside the files,

22:50 Obviously, the Democrats would be all over that. Obviously, the Biden administration and their DOJ was in control of that information. If there was anything that they could use to charge him or anything embarrassing, probably they would have leaked out to the press. It would have went to Congress. They would have filed charges. That would have been the surest way to bring him down, destroy his credibility. So I totally understand that argument. At the same time, there is a lot of troubling evidence surrounding the topic. First of all, you have Jeffrey Epstein testimony from 15 years ago where he claimed, and he could be lying. It's certainly possible that he's exaggerating this or even making it up. But he said that he was close friends with Donald Trump. We have that on tape, that's on the record.

23:29 It's sworn testimony. He said that he was friends with Donald Trump. This is before he died. It was before even he got charged a second time. We also have a very strange interview from last year during the election where he's asked by a reporter about the declassification of all these topics. They say, Are you gonna declassify 9-11? He goes, yes. Are you gonna declassify JFK? He says, absolutely. Are you gonna declassify Jeffrey Epstein? He goes, yes. And then very quickly he says, well, maybe he goes because there's some people that might be named in it and it might ruin their lives and I'm not so sure. And that always struck me as very bizarre. And obviously, I mean, you can draw a conclusion from that, which is he is worried that he's named in it.

24:12 And even if it doesn't indict him, even if it's not something criminal in nature, or he's not indicted in the sex trafficking or anything bad, his name being present in the documents at all would be a big problem for him in terms of PR. Clearly that was his concern. That's probably why I answered the question that way. Then of course, a week before the strikes in Iran, Elon Musk famously says on Twitter, The reason you don't have the files is because Trump is in them. Today, Musk is saying that Bannon is in the files. Now once again, this is one person's word against another's. This is Elon Musk.

24:47 And he's got a reason to play into that. He's got a rivalry now with the president. He was exiled from the White House, wasn't able to achieve his policy priorities, which is cutting the deficit. He's got a major bone to pick with Steve Bannon. So it makes sense why he'd say something like that. Would he make something up like that out of whole cloth? And so between the Epstein testimony, the weird Trump evasive answer in the interview, then the Elon Musk claim on Twitter. To me, that's enough smoke to say where there's smoke, there's fire. And let's remember also Epstein died in custody of the Department of Justice. It was Bill Barr as Attorney General that was technically in control of the federal prison system. When Epstein died in 2019, Trump was president.

25:33 Now here we are five years later, fast forward. And once again, it is Pam Bondi as head of the DOJ, it's Kash Patel. Nobody could say these people aren't MAGA. Nobody could say these people don't want to release the Epstein tapes ostensibly. They've been talking about doing it for five years. And yet this is the administration that's gonna bury it. Something is very fishy here. And I would just point to the timing of it and the conspicuous coincidence, which is that they bury the story the day before Netanyahu arrives. And that could be just a massive coincidence, but it's weird that they bookended like this. Elon Musk says Trump is in the files, a week later Israel bombs Iran.

26:15 And that was in complete contravention of Trump's diplomatic push to try to achieve a deal. Then, weeks after the ceasefire, Netanyahu comes to the White House and it's reported in Axios by Barack Ravid, he's going to ask the White House to bomb Iran more. Israel wants more strikes. They say in Reuters Netanyahu wants a second war with Iran. They wanna do something even bigger. They think there's an opportunity. They're asking Trump to open it up like the Lebanon model, which means they're gonna just bomb them all the time with regularity. And it's the day before this visit, again, it's sort of like bookended with what's happening in Iran, that the story then gets buried. And of course, the story runs through Jerusalem, the story runs through New York City and Jerusalem. So there's clearly something fishy going on and I am less confident

27:05 in this Trump maximalist idea, this theory that he's masterfully playing five dimensional chess and he's got the elites bent over the barrel. It certainly doesn't feel that way. It feels like the other way around. And given again, his concern about the files being released, this whole situation with Iran, him going with Israel against really his own diplomatic initiative, it seems like they have something on him. And that to me was always the concern with this guy. He's surrounded by this element. In the first administration, it was the Chabad Lubavitchers through Jared Kushner. They pulled out of the Iran deal. You had all this smoke the first term. Now we're having all this stuff come back the second time. It's sort of like in the last five years, everybody forgot about all this. Everybody started to believe in kind of like a Trump that didn't exist.

27:52 got back into believing this simulacrum, vapor wave, vaporware version of Trump from TikTok edits, from hype edits, videos, with music playing. And they forgot what the first term was really like. It wasn't all that great. So unfortunately, it just feels like deja vu all over again. If we can't trust them on the Epstein files, there's some very dark implications in all of that. I wouldn't say it's one issue. I think it's maybe the central thread. And once you start to tug on that, the whole thing comes undone. So it's a very ominous foreshadowing of the next few years. I don't feel very good about it. And I know you don't feel good about it either. It's not, this is not what we thought the golden age was going to be. This is not certainly any different than it was the first term. So we got to go to break. I want to come back and, and,

30:31 to the deep state. But if there's no reason to do it, just to go have dinner and ask my tell you're great, then what is the point of it? Because whenever I get around Trump and whenever I'm giving him information, they go nuts. And again, if there's no point to it, I can still give the information anyways. I just try to stay away from it. The swamp is not a place I like to hang out. And you've seen the fun I've had there on J6 and trying to put us all in prison and Owen in prison and the rest of it. But the reason I tell that story before we go back to Nick is I have influenced Trump a great deal on air and off. And when you saw those articles in 2017, 2018, that the chief of staff's job is keeping him away from Alex Jones and Infowars, pull that up and type it in.

31:18 I would tell him stuff and he'd say, well, send me a report on that. And I started actually having like law firms do it for me. So it's all vetted and they went, the system went insane. And I was giving him maps of who worked for Soros and who to kick out of the White House. They had 60 minute shows about it, how I was so mean and got Fiona Hill fired. So I know Trump wants to save the country. The policies, what he's doing on almost every front is so good. And then I see something like this, and I just want people to know, I don't get up here and do a controversial show for clickbait just because it's popular, okay? I need Trump to succeed. I wanna save the country. I wanna dislodge the deep state. It's literally hunting me, okay? So the hunted has become the hunted, as Trump said. Well, so this is very personal for me and the country and all of you.

32:15 And we really, I, normally things are very cut and dry for me, Nick. But if he doesn't get his economic deals through, if we don't secure the border and deport the illegals, if we don't reboot America, if we don't stop these wars, you can see the future. It's very dystopian. So I paradoxically see a good he's doing and then I see something like this that it was designed to blow up in his face. Did it come out of his mind? Where did it come from? And again, the big question we left off with. The only thing that's logical here is we know the files there, we know it's the information, it's how the deep state was blackmailing, he gets control of that. Now he can control them, but then they're going to say, okay, we'll stop attacking you, but you've got to come out and say it's over so that you're part of it now. You got to join the cover up. And so we know we've got a deal. That's the spit in the hand

33:10 You know make the handshake and then you see I think the deal was made in the last month or two The acceleration of Israel and Netanyahu and them fawning on each other Trump saying you're the greatest man living in the world. That's what King George the third said about George Washington Netanyahu fawning Oh peace prize you're the greatest ever And yeah, we want to blow up Iran again. And so it's not just your feeling, you're saying, you know, you think this is going on. I mean, it's overwhelmingly obvious that some backroom deals have been made and Trump made it clear he told them to kill the investigation. That's why he came out, defended the FBI, defended them. And you just saw him today.

33:54 you know, boom, say I want this shut down. And so by extension, if we don't criticize it and tell the truth, we are now part of it. And I've never sold out for anybody. I'm not selling out for this. But at the same time, I got to gauge it and say, I'm going to cover it a lot, but I'm also not going to put my main focus. I'm going to wait and see what unfolds here. But it's not me or Nick Fuentes, even people that worship Trump like cat turd. We're freaked out and blown away by this. And so it's such a mitigated disaster PR wise. I just, it's you've got the floor. What do you think is really going on here and who's blackmailing who?

34:36 Well, I think he's just pushed it to the limit. I think that coming into this term, he had so much goodwill and such a mandate. It was such a miraculous story between getting shot in the head and getting up and yelling fight, fight, fight. Winning this election after getting charged and convicted and put through the ringer. It's like the most remarkable comeback ever in the history of the United States, without a question. But in the past few weeks, and we touched on this a little bit in the last part, He goes on True Social and says, actually, America first means a lot of things and it can mean bombing Iran. And that's pushing it. I mean, bombing Iran is like synonymous with the neocons. That's their wet dream for 20 years. That's what they've always wanted. He says, actually, and it gets better. It's not just we're gonna bomb Iran reluctantly or we've been forced into it. No, that's America first.

35:28 actually to bomb Iran. We were always for that. That has always been America first. Then in just the past week, it's this amnesty. It's not an amnesty, it's a work program. We're not gonna give them an amnesty. We're just gonna let them stay in the country and work. And then before we even had time to digest that one, because that was just a couple days ago. That statement is from today. It was Thursday after the big beautiful bill passed that they came out and said, we're gonna do something for these illegal immigrants working on the farms. Before we even had time to digest that latest statement about how the radical right will be disappointed, but they'll live with it. Then we get this Epstein thing, and it's like you said, it is so far beyond the pale.

36:09 even the biggest Trump cultists. And I don't use that word in a pejorative. You know, I think a cult can be a good thing. Actually, I think Trump and his influence has been positive in some respects. I agree. It's not all bad. I'm with you. I agree with some of the things he's done, like close the border, bring illegal immigration to the forefront, political correctness, all that kind of stuff. There's some good things. But now even the Trump cult, even the most loyal diehard followers that will ride for and defend everything and find excuses and apologism. They cannot stand by somebody saying, let's just not talk about Epstein. There's nothing there, case closed. And so I think they're blackmailing him. I think they have something on him, potentially, probably. On some level though, it is all speculative. We don't know. We can't know precisely what's going on. Suffice to say we know they're lying.

36:58 And we know they're lying. We know Jeffrey Epstein is intelligence. That's factual. They knew that in 2008. They know that now. It's just obvious. The conspicuousness of how he raised his fortune, the people that he rolled with, the sex trafficking, the surveillance, it's so painfully obvious. He was intelligence. He was running a blackmail ring. We know that too. We also know if he's sex trafficking, if there's a blackmail ring and it's for intelligence, then we necessarily know that there must be clients. How can you be a sex trafficker without clients? Who are you trafficking the sex for then? It just doesn't even make any sense. And he got charged with this not once but twice. So everybody knows for a fact, these are the facts about the Epstein case.

37:44 And we all witnessed Pam Bondi come out in this memo yesterday and deny all of it. And say, it's like you said on Twitter, which was genius. What are they gonna say next? Jeffrey Epstein never existed? Epstein wasn't real? I mean, they're literally telling us, don't believe your lying eyes. It's not real. And this is one of those mask off moments where you have to choose. Are you gonna support Trump or deny reality? Are you gonna support Trump or side with the most disgusting pervert who's at the epicenter of political corruption in America. This is minors being trafficked for sex for blackmail. So a foreign government can influence our politicians. It's the sickest, dirtiest business, the sickest, dirtiest corruption, and Trump is burying it. And this was my biggest concern going into this second term, is that Trump, because he is so powerful, because he's such a

38:38 powerful figure in the American imagination, such an icon, he will act either knowingly or unknowingly as a Trojan horse. This is why in some respects, I never told anybody to vote for Kamala and I didn't either. I think she would have been a disaster in her own special way. But I said in some ways this makes her less dangerous in a certain sense. Because if she did the things that Trump is doing now, Nobody would stomach it. If she buried the Epstein files, there'd be a riot in the streets. If she bombed Iran, every conservative would be speaking out and screaming in opposition, except for maybe Mark Levin. If she said we're gonna give an amnesty for the farm workers, which by the way, that's a Biden program, Biden was gonna do that. If she did it, nobody would be defending it. But because it's Trump, because it's him,

39:31 There's gonna be a major section of the right wing of the disaffected white working class that's gonna find every excuse to say, it's all part of the plan. Here's why it's actually a good thing. Tick tock, we just have to wait a few more years and then Guantanamo Bay, QAnon is gonna be lining up James Coney and all these other people. So in some sense there's a special danger with Trump, which is, and I said this at the beginning of the year, it's this exuberance. He really came in in the second term. And I think maybe that's what it is, thinking he could get away with anything, thinking, and you know, you can almost empathize with that mindset. If you survived what he survived, if you've been through what he's been through in the past 10 years, you would think I'm Napoleon, I'm crowning myself, like I'm untouchable. And we're in, it's July, we're halfway through the first year

40:25 And he's losing even as most as you said, he's even lost captured. Even captured has found some criticism for Trump. If you've lost cast her captured, you've lost the plot like it's over. So let me make excellent points here. So let me roll this out. If you pull back from this, look at Virginia Joufray. She says they're coming to kill me if I die, I didn't commit suicide, and then she's dead a few months ago. Some of the other women have gotten killed the last few months. You see all the loose ends getting tied up for Prince Andrew. And the UK is famously run by pedophile rings, even more so than Israel that's a strong junior partner in it.

41:12 And the CIA has been involved as well, but it's well known even in mainline history and studies of intelligence, the PhD level that the UK is run by pedophile networks. Israel's heavily using that for control. You have the US attorney saying Epstein was intelligence. I mean, look at this, Ghislaine Maxwell, a little black book to remain secret in court deal. The judge made the black book secret. But then, and of course that was Marine Comey, Comey's daughter running the cover up there just like they just did the P. Diddy. And through that case, it's all getting tied up, loose ends right now. And MTG is keeping her soul. She's pointing out that how can Ghislaine be convicted of human trafficking? But there was no human trafficking. There was no blackmail. He acted alone and he killed himself. I mean, this is beyond a slap in the face. So I want you to respond to that and then

42:04 Elon Musk has put out another tweet. It was on X. It was Nick earlier saying he would expect that we're going to be seeing Elon come back on the scene now after months ago saying, hey, I'm gonna drop this bomb right here. The reason you're not gonna get any of the files is because Trump sent him and now Everyone's like, no, that's not true. They say they have them. They sent them out to the FBI. And now, nope, there's nothing. It's all gone. Don't talk about it. Don't ask questions. Elon Musk, how can people be expected to have faith in Trump if he won't release the Epstein files? Well, now the mind control will be, well, there are no files. They just told us there aren't. And then the other spin is, oh, no, the deep state destroyed them before. Maybe they destroyed a bunch of them, but we know the FBI had them. We know they raided New York.

42:55 Four months ago to get them. We know she said in all these interviews they had them and then they start slowly putting it out a few months ago on Rogan with Patel and Rogan didn't even buy it as well. He's like, no, no, you trust me, Joe. If there was anything I'd tell you, there's nothing. There's nothing. Watch the watch. There's nothing, Joe. There's nothing going on. Go ahead, Nick Fuentes. Well, and it's just like this is going to become one of those famous pieces. of the puzzle that brings down the conspiracy theory. This is like the JFK magic bullet and the lone gunman, Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone and the bullet made seven different exit and entry wounds and it had this miraculous pathway or like the

43:39 passport of the 9-11 hijacker that was recovered on the ground of New York City. Two of them, no, no, no, two were found the next day. Sorry, go ahead. Right, exactly, yeah. They said, how do we identify the hijackers in 9-11? Well, as the plane crashed into the tower, their passports magically fell from, you know, because the plane exploded, the passports flew out like a cartoon and then gently floated down to the floor where someone recovered them on the ground amidst the rubble. And said, I got it. I'm gonna turn this over to the FBI. This must be the hijacker. And now we have Epstein killed himself. He was not running a blackmail ring. He was not intelligence. And what's so crushing about this, and Elon is really getting to the heart of the matter. We just said this literally moments ago.

44:26 If you can't trust Trump on this, how can you trust Trump and his plan on anything? And what's so crushing, and I said this last year, this is such an important part of it, but it's something that totally I think people missed maybe when I was criticizing Trump heavily last year. The proposition of Trumpism initially in the beginning in 2015, when he came down the escalator, It wasn't just that he was gonna build a border wall. It wasn't just that he was gonna end the endless wars. It wasn't just that he was gonna protect the jobs. A lot of people had said that before. Other politicians had said that before. The proposition of Trump, what was so special

45:05 As he said, I'm so rich, I'm gonna be a self funder. And that means because I'm rich, I'm not vulnerable to corruption. He said, I'm invulnerable. I'm not gonna take super PAC money. I cannot be bribed. I cannot be bought. I'm a billionaire. I'm so rich. I'm a self funder. He said, so because of that, because I'm immune from those pressures, I I will never be a politician. You won't get carefully crafted lies. You won't get coverups. You won't get corruption. I'm going to deliver a real victory. And I said last year, this is what's so heartbreaking. We all understand that in politics.

45:41 You gotta make compromises. Politics is a tough reality. We have to be pragmatic. I think everybody understands that on some level. But what was promised in 16 was something fresh, something different, a break from the past, not just a victory for conservatives or the Republicans, but a victory for Americans, something truly unique and different, something that actually breaks the system and the corruption that controls it. And this is like the the death of that idea. This is like the final nail in the coffin. It's like, wow, so you really are just like the rest of them. This is your JFK, Lyndon Johnson. This is your 9-11, George Bush. This is your Benghazi, Barack Obama.

46:21 and Hillary Clinton, that Jeffrey Epstein, you own this, you live in this, this is your bed, you've made it, you lay in this, you are just like the rest of them. And it's hard to state now, but I think this is gonna have ramifications. This is like the complete loss of that mythological faith that people have in Trump. And it's like, yes, if he doesn't release these files, And actually in turn covers it up with this bald face. It's almost, well, it is. It's an insulting lie that really gets to the heart of it. It's like you said, talk about shooting yourself in the foot. Talk about blowing your head off with a shotgun to come out and say he wasn't blackmailing anybody. He didn't have a client list. It's so insane. It cannot be believed. No sensible person would say that.

47:08 And he stands by them. He goes in this press conference and says, let's just stop talking about it. The FBI is back to the basics, chasing bad guys. He's now lying to the faces of his supporters. The loss of trust and confidence and faith, it's hard to overstate how severe that is. And I don't know how many people are gonna go with this. I don't know what that's gonna mean for a lot of people. But for people like you and I that have really been here from the beginning and in different ways, you obviously interviewed him and that was unbelievably massive. And I was maybe that generation of young people that came of age during that election deeply influenced. I'm like the archetypal Gen Z online guy

47:48 of the Trump world. For the two of us to be following it from Pizzagate and all that stuff from the beginning through to this tragic and disappointing conclusion, it's nothing other than heartbreaking. And it just vindicates, look, Like we said in the start, we want Trump to succeed. This is not coming from a Trump derangement syndrome, looking at the glass as half empty, never being satisfied, not taking the win. It's such a stark offensive lie. The loss of faith, it's almost irreparable. And people are saying, well, yeah, go ahead. No, no, that was my exact next question. I'm still gonna support the good he's doing. But seeing something this big happen

48:32 I just have an instinctual but also political really bad feeling that this is the start of a bunch more stuff like this. And we are having a political realignment. Republicans are the blue collar party now. Record numbers, blacks, Hispanics. I mean, the country's getting proud of itself again. And so that's why it's paradoxical for me And again, as I said yesterday, I said if he comes out and says no, I want the investigation to continue, then that just means they've been compromised at the DOJ. And it's like what we saw before, because I know the inside baseball people were not doing what he said in his first term, most of them. Now he's got a good crew. You even see the press secretary for the first time ever not wearing her cross and looking super depressed because she could go tell the truth before and feel good. He's got a lot of really good people around him. This isn't a legion of crooks.

49:20 Now there's some bad ones in there, but nothing like the Democrats or what he had in the first head man, where it was like 90% bad. Now it's like 80% good, I would say. And so it's just a horrifying thinking feeling of what, do you think he's going to start going back on even more now that he's done this? And you said something very, very astute that I'm gonna respond to, I'm writing a note, but I wanna do it in the next hour, you're with us for about 30 minutes, the next hour. When you said it seems like It's the madness of King Lear or that was my term, megalomania, power trip, not giving an F, a feeling of invincibility. I will tell people inside baseball, let me start the next hour, but please respond back to what I just said about do you have a feeling we're about to see a lot more betrayal?

50:05 I do, I do because I think that he's acting without limit. He's clearly acting without any kind of constraints. And there was this idea that because he doesn't have to run for another term because he's a lame duck, that he could really deliver the revenge. He doesn't have to care about re-election so he could really put the screws in the deep state. That was kind of how it was sold. But of course, the flip side of that coin is he doesn't have to worry about re-election. So he can Betray the voters, he can do anything. It does not matter, he's not seeking re-election. At the end, he can pardon himself. In a certain sense, he's invincible and

50:41 He's broken the compact with the voters on no new wars. He crossed that red line already. He's broken the compact on mass deportations. It isn't happening, it's not gonna happen. Now he's broken the compact on Epstein. If he's willing and able to do this, it truly shows he's acting without any limitation. And I like what you say, this sinking feeling There is this sense of we're now trapped with him. It's like you're not locked in here. I'm not locked in a review. You're locked in here with me. Now we're locked in here with this. And to your point, we'll touch on this later. Is this now this vengeful madman? Is he now?

51:23 angry with the base. Does he now hate us? If we say to Trump, we didn't vote for a war with Iran. We didn't vote for a so-called work program for illegal immigrants on farms. We didn't vote for burying the Epstein story. Is he now gonna turn his eye on us? Is this like a Game of Thrones, burn them all? Now we're gonna be destroyed? I hate to say it, but this is what I said a year ago. This is what I said was going to happen. And so So there is this terrifying reality. And I said, we don't know, we can only speculate. There's this question, who exactly are we dealing with? Who is this person? Who is Trump? He's a sort of strange eccentric figure. He's never really had a very profound testimony about his faith in God or Christ.

52:10 Just who is this person that we're dealing with? Now we sort of realize what we've done here. Maybe this, we've let in a dragon, whereas the deep state was ineffective in some ways and kind of run by incompetence. Now we've let in Peter Thiel, Trump, we've let in JD Vance, these like, and I know you like Vance, I view them as sort of sociopathic. It's like, what is this element? It's like this very strange and evil element that we're now seeing going completely mask off And, uh, and I don't like any of it. I feel a deep sense of being disconcerted at this point. Stay there. I'm not going to go as far as you, but unfortunately I was watching you a year ago, say all this and now it's coming true and I'm getting a sinking feeling, but I'm crossing my fingers and saying a prayer. You're wrong about what's coming next. And I'll explain why when we come back, I was going to break a Nick point as you can find him on X, find him on rumble, find him everywhere. Does his nightly show.

53:07 American first. This is bad because on one side, we got Trump starting to go the wrong direction and then I got the Democrats that literally want to hang me by my toes. So having integrity is tough sometimes folks but I'm just gonna tell the truth no matter what and just pray this is some weird aberration. He's made some backroom deal from the back off or it was so horrible they can't bring it out because it's former presidents or something. I'm sure that's what it is, but I just can't say okay, it's okay to lie to us when it's so demonstrably a lie. I mean, Michael, could you tell us a little bit better lie or maybe not continue to just say shut up?

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57:46 So I'm coming to you asking you to continue to commission us in this fight. We've already delivered you more victories against the enemy than any other media operation in the world. And I'm asking you again for all of our collective futures to come to our aid now more and take your fight to the 110% level. Tell the truth, be accurate, stand against evil, have courage until it's not even having courage, it's what you are. There's Trump coming down the golden escalator nine and a half years ago. I immediately endorsed him. And I've seen the real fear by the establishment, but I think what Nick was saying is, is this just an old rotting establishment being pushed out by a leaner, meaner, more serious establishment? I'll give my absolute gut level, soul level take at six after, but I want to give you a few minutes because you got caught off there, Nick, and then we got four minutes left in the segment. Go ahead, Nick Fuentes.

58:46 Yeah, so I mean something that's important to keep in mind about Epstein, which I wanted to add actually. If we know that Epstein is involved with Israeli intelligence, obviously we've been over some of the facts already today. And if you know that Epstein had this thick Rolodex of royal family members, Wall Street, Hollywood people, members of the government. If you know that he was convicted of sex trafficking, procuring minors for the purpose of sex trafficking. That he had cameras and microphones all over his apartment for the purpose of filming the sex with minors and the people that were on his flight logs and these powerful people he was hanging out with.

59:24 You know that this was blackmail. This is acquiring sexual dirt on powerful people for the purpose of controlling them. But once you begin to understand the true nature of it, you really understand what's going on here. A lot of people say these things like Epstein didn't kill himself. Of course, people reject the pronouncement now by the Department of Justice that there is no client list, that there is no blackmail ring. There is no sex trafficking or anything like that. The case is closed. You have to ask the question, if that's what was happening, who was it for? Someone put him up to this. How did he have access to the Capitol? How did he have access to the billion dollars, to the celebrities, to the government ministers and so on? Well, we also touched on that. He was involved with Les Wexner, the Jewish billionaire from Ohio, from the mega group.

1:00:14 He ran in a circle of dozens, arguably over 100 Jewish billionaires, people that support pro-Jewish causes like Jewish education, Jewish activism, and pro-Israel causes. Then it's safe to assume also given his main accomplice, Jelaine Maxwell, her father was working for the Mossad, he's in bed with Israeli intelligence. Okay, so he's running a blackmail ring for an intelligence agency, most likely an Israeli intelligence agency. Well, what's the purpose of running the blackmail ring for the Israeli intelligence agency? Well, obviously we have to then figure out what does Israel want. The entire purpose of the blackmail ring is to have dirt on American

1:00:57 politicians, celebrities, financiers, so that Israel can control them. For what purpose? Well, let's just use our imaginations. What has Israel wanted for the past 25 years? What have they been talking about at the United Nations General Assembly? What have they been saying in congressional testimony, in American media like Fox News and elsewhere, joint sessions of Congress and major addresses? They've been saying for 25 years and even longer actually, We want regime change in Iran. They've been saying Iran is two weeks away from a bomb. They're a month away from a bomb. They've been saying it for 30 years. And at the same time that they're talking about Iran has the bomb and that's why we need to go to war, they're saying that's not enough. We need actually regime change. We need to wipe out the Iranian regime. They're the head of a snake that's spreading its

1:01:48 tentacles, not to mix animal metaphors, but they're spreading their influence all over the region. That is the final operation. That's the final target. We got to go for Iran. So go figure. Trump is most likely in the Epstein files. He's on the flight logs. He's in videos with Epstein. Epstein said they were best friends. Epstein dies in Trump's custody. Trump comes back into power. There's this insinuation that Trump is named in the files by Elon Musk, who says this when he has a black eye. He's in the Black Eye Club. Week later, we get the strikes on Iran. And when they're finished, case closed.

1:02:28 The Epstein files are done forever, they're going into the archives. Use your imagination people, it's not difficult to figure out. I think it's very contrive what just happened here and it has everything to do with what we've actually been talking about for the past several weeks with what's happening in the Middle East. What I've been talking about for years-. We gotta go to break, but I'm gonna come back and give you my comments on this straight ahead, but I agree with you. All right, I've told this story hundreds of times cuz it's true and everybody that was listening then heard it and the archives are there public. 9-11, I go on air, there's bombs in the buildings, they blow up building 7, they say on national TV, we're gonna blow up building 7, the CIA, FBI headquarters. But back then you'd have internet archives, so if you didn't tape it, nobody saw it. And I can still have the clip in like a DVD I sold, but still people made copies, so maybe a few million people saw that.

1:03:20 And, you know, I get death threat calls in the office from people with voice changers, like in 2002, you better stop saying Building 7 or we're gonna kill you and your family. You know, I mean, this is the stuff I've done, okay? Stuff I've gone through. And I went from, and of course then for some reason they didn't think, three or four years later all of a sudden, all the major news channels, because they got enough bandwidth, archived the 9-11. BBC, CNN, all them blowing up building 7. Everybody's like, oh my god, it's true. So, the reason I tell that story is, I had something like 200 radio stations. And that was talk radio's heyday, okay? A bunch of them were 50,000 watt stations, okay?

1:04:00 So I was selling DVDs and t-shirts, but we were bringing in all of a sudden, you know, ten million dollars a year or whatever Gross and so now I can hire crew and get buildings and you don't start stuff and do all this and I'm putting the money into that You know, I'm saying buy a nicer car, but I don't care about things 9-11 happens I go from 200 stations to about 40 stations or something like that and they all call the first week They go. We love you. We're getting top ratings. You know, I already had clear channel trying to hire me all of it I was gonna be the new Rush Limbaugh I was like 30 years old and in the next month, 70 plus percent of the stations dumped me. So I don't get mad at people when they love to say Jones is a controlled opposition or you know, all these Johnny come lately love to do that to feel powerful and feel like only they're good. It upsets me because you need to stop thinking that good doesn't exist in the world. Remember the devil's biggest trick is not that he doesn't exist. That's his second biggest. In my view, it's that good doesn't exist. I am for real.

1:05:02 And I have the track record and I don't need to prove that to people. I need people to understand when you sit around and say everybody's controlled, you are not giving people hope. But those of us that aren't controlled have to tell the truth, even though it goes against our own self-interest. And I'm doing that right now. Ladies and gentlemen, the Democrats have had, we now know, seven grand juries open on me I had to pay millions of dollars in the last six, seven years. And the lawyers are always like, don't talk about the news. We'll go show the grand jury and they won't bill you. DC, New York, Texas, they have, they indicted me in DC. But then the attorney general killed it because he thought it was too political. Merrick Garland knew that was too far for January 6th. The reason I'm telling my own story, I'm going back to Nick here, is I appreciate his time.

1:05:55 is that the Democrats are literally hunting me and my family, suing my parents. They've got my parents almost bankrupt, claiming that I had money with them, which has all been disproven. So I know that if I sit there and play ball, okay, that they'll, you know, And at this point, so this is even bigger than me losing almost all my radio stations to tell the truth. I couldn't even, it wasn't even a thought, I couldn't help it. Okay, fine, turn me off. I'm not gonna shut up, I'll watch you blow the damn buildings up. And we have the same Prime Minister in Israel then with his fingerprints all over it with the neocons here. And I said that then and I said it the whole time, but I never tried to just create a fight with certain groups or make it all about that. I thought, expose policies of evil, then you get a big tent with everybody,

1:06:43 And that's how we'll do this. And we have done that to a great extent and built the movement of populism where people are winning all over the world and exposing globalism. And then Trump rides in on that. He is doing a lot of good. So it's very paradoxical. So my literal freedom and my life is bet on Trump. But there's things bigger than your life and bigger than your parents. You know, they need to go move into the countryside of a small house, they're ready, they're fine. But that's where I'm at. And so I am the epitome of integrity. I have nothing but the track record of it. And it's not about my defense. I'm telling you how personal this is for me. I am having my guts ripped out right now, okay? So,

1:07:30 This isn't about a popularity contest like we're in junior high and which which clicker we in or we in the Democrat clicker publicly. The Democrats are open pedophiles, open devil worshippers, openly hate this country. And so for me, I'll just ask you, Nick, and I'm gonna shut up. It's very paradoxical for me, because then I don't sit there and say, maybe I'll just wait and see what Trump does and back off of this. Because then I look at the Democrats who are manifestly super evil and out of control. We know they're as bad as it gets. And so I have this first time in my life, this lesser to evils thing, which I know is the road to hell, where I start going, am I making the right decision going ape on Trump? But his constituents are, so I just, it's so horrible. Nick Fuentes, sorry I'm ranting.

1:08:17 I agree with you and here's the thing about the right wing. I actually share the same mentality that you do about the left. Obviously, the left is beyond the pale. They're totally immoral. They're totally against God. They're totally against America. They wanna drown the country in refugees. They wanna overturn every traditional institution. It almost goes without saying, I almost find it passe to go after the left because I feel like if you're not anti-Democrat at the minimum, or anti-left, you're just out to lunch. And that's why it's so important that we get the right wing right. Because if the left is hegemonic, if they run all the institutions, if they run the State Department and Hollywood and Wall Street and ESG and everything like that, then the opposition, which is the organized opposition, which is the Republican Party, the so-called conservative movement,

1:09:11 That's the vehicle to resist the left. That's the vehicle, at least that's kind of the common thinking. If we're against the left, then that makes us on the so-called organized right, the organized opposition. But what we find is that the organized opposition to the left, the GOP, Fox News, all these other institutions, they are totally corrupt. And it seems that in many ways they are a part of the same system as the left. They're just like a different version of the left. And so I've always thought then the battle is even more granular. We're fighting the left inside the right. You have the left and the so-called right, the Democrats and Republicans. But within the right, you have the so-called establishment, which is Rupert Murdoch, which is the big money, which is the Israel lobby, all this kind of stuff. And then you have

1:09:58 the citizen journalists. You have people like yourself, you have people like me, you have authentic real Americans. Their parents weren't in the CIA, were not mobbed up with these different foreign intelligence agencies. And it's incumbent on us to kind of win this battle, take over the vehicle of opposition to effectively resist the right wing. And I think that maybe you're in agreement with this. You're not a George W. Bush guy. Many Trump supporters weren't either. As a matter of fact, many Trump supporters were Obama people that were disappointed. I've never been a George W. Bush guy or Herbert Walker Bush guy. Right, well I didn't say it in any kind of way. I just meant you're not a card carrying Republican. You're a real populist. You're more like a patriot party or America first guy than you are a Republican. Common sense, classic Western values.

1:10:48 Exactly, and I think that you like me and like many Obama voters and many other people saw Trump not as a Republican, but as something independent, as something unique, as a true break from the dynasty of the Bush family. Or Marco Rubio, whose slogan was New American Century, if it could be even more on the nose, and the rest of them. And Trump represented this opportunity of a hostile takeover of the GOP and of the right wing by the people. It was like a populist overthrow. Originally, it was Roger Ailes and Megyn Kelly that tried to take him out. It was the GOP and Reince Priebus that rigged the primary against him. And so we thought

1:11:30 Take over the GOP primary, take over the Republican Party, take over the White House, and finally we'll have won kind of these two related battles, which is defeat the opposition in America, defeat the establishment in our party. And now that Trump has gone this far on these issues, That's really what makes it crushing is because like you said, we have all had our share of the suffering and maybe you more than almost anybody with the lawsuits and the lawfare against you and your family. And certainly I've had a taste of that and many people, many people at Charlottesville at January 6th. People at your house trying to kill you that go kill people and get killed by the cops. Yeah.

1:12:10 Exactly. And no media coverage. Here's the thing, we're not victims. We're under attack because we're fighting. But it's not even in the news that they just attacked two ICE facilities and shot them up in Texas. I mean, when conservatives are under attack, you don't hear about it. Well, and it's skin in the game. It means we're invested. It means that we've lost something. We've sacrificed something to do this because we care and we're in it for the right reasons. And then for it to come full circle 10 years later with something symbolic like this and really after kind of selling out on a couple of the key issues like immigration and the war with Iran, you almost are left wondering what was it all for? And why it's important, I actually agree with what you say. And we talked about this the last time I was on, you said the greatest trick the devil pulls is to convince you there's no good.

1:13:01 That's true, because that's how they get people to despair. That's how they get people to give in and say, well, if everybody else is giving in, if everybody else is giving up, what difference is one person going to make? Why would I try and resist what is clearly irresistible evil, totally hegemonic? And for Trump to go down like this, It's just devastating because he really is the champion of the movement, whether you like him, don't like him, agree with him, don't agree with him. He's the most important figure in American politics in this decade. and truly provided hope, I think, to millions of people that maybe counted America out or counted out our people, our civilization. And so for him to do, like you said, a handshake deal, for him to compromise himself like this, symbolically, it's such a devastating blow. It's even bigger, actually, in my opinion, than the policy things.

1:13:53 And he could reopen the investigation. I don't even know if that would make much of a difference. I'm a little bit scared of him at this point. I'm scared of what's going on. I don't know who we're dealing with. I said yesterday when I first got on air, I said, no, this is Trump. He told him to do it. He'll probably come out to Dr. DeMara and defend Bongino and Patel. He did exactly that and said, yeah, this is the right thing, move on. Then he snapped the reporter and said, how dare you stand on the grave of dead kids, totally separate issue during a press conference, and bring this up. He's trying to send a message, shut up. And he believes he's got so much grassroots support and so much power.

1:14:32 that he can do whatever he wants and for whatever reason he wants to move on from this, whether he's using the blackmail file or whether it's being used on him, regardless that's happening. And then I predict, it's guaranteed, that now, like, sharks come into blood in the water. He's gonna be hounded now with this. And I've talked to people very close to Trump who love him. And they say, listen, he's not a megalomaniac now. He always had a big ego. Notice he doesn't really respond to the press, doesn't get banned anymore. He doesn't care, he doesn't give an F. We've seen that in the headline. They go, he really says that. He says, every week can be our last. to his staff, let's fight, fight, fight. He's doing all these policies, he's doing the best job he can with what he's had. That's what's so paradoxical. So I'm not ready to say he's going down or we've lost Trump yet. The point is, is this is a violent veering into that territory with your horror

1:15:27 at this moment, but I can tell you what I've heard described about Trump is indescribable. They say beyond ice water, he's very friendly and nice out in the public. He is very aggressive and focused and has even more energy than he ever had behind the scenes. And they say that, It's scary. And so, and look, I've been through a lot of pressure. A lot of the people have, I can tell you in life, you either buckle to pressure or you level up. And when I've leveled up in the last year with a lot of prayer and exercise and focus and determination, it was always there. I was never scared and was never even burnt out, but I made myself man up.

1:16:07 And it's not evil, it's really the flesh, because the Holy Spirit's there. It's hard to describe, but it is something I've got to control now, because when you decide to really fight, and you get so confident and then so aggressive as a man, it becomes dangerous. And I can feel the danger in me. And I have to pray every day that the Holy Spirit control it. Because it's not the devil, but it's male berserker, viking energies, however you describe it. And that's what I think, and I think the world sees that. Like here's what I'm gonna ask you, that's a longer issue, but we see him at NATO now, open bowing down, your daddy groveling, they're hopping around like demons. Netanyahu's never looked happier. There's been some massive, not just with Israel, some new realignment, some new secret alliance, and that's gonna be the next few months and years. What is it as it comes out? But something big happened the last two months. Nick Foyne says that's quite a lot to unpack.

1:17:05 Yeah, it is a little strange because of course when he came in in 2017, he was resented by everybody in NATO. But you know what? It's a completely different world. I mean, you actually do have to zoom out and take a look at the bigger picture. When he came onto the scene, which was actually in 2015 when he started running in the primary, this was the world of Barack Obama, Angela Merkel. Francois Holland in France, it was David Cameron in the United Kingdom. Russia was in the G8. I guess they had just been expelled in 2014, but they had been in the G8. This was a completely different world. You fast forward 10 years, all these people are gone.

1:17:46 Trudeau is gone, Mario Draghi is gone, David Cameron is gone. You know, all these people, Merkel, who is a fixture forever, is gone. They've all been ejected. In its place, you have Nigel Farage becoming a national figure in the UK. You have in France, Marine Le Pen is within spitting distance of the presidency. They got to ban her. In Germany, AFD is taking over. In Italy, it's been one right-wing regime after the other. In Canada, it was only because of Trump that they didn't elect a conservative. So it's like this is a world 10 years after Trump won, clearly transformed by Trump. And what's more,

1:18:23 If you recall in 2015, Trump really was pushing on NATO to re militarize. In many ways, Trump drove the conflict with Russia because it was Trump that pulled us out of the INF Treaty and redeployed medium range missiles into Eastern Europe, which Russia did not like. It was Trump that gave lethal aid to Ukraine. It was Trump that demanded that NATO increased their spending. And the whole idea was that then we could leave Europe Europe, handing it off to the Europeans, and then we could go and focus on China. At that time, Trump had this idea that China is the real adversary, not Russia, not even necessarily Iraq, where we still were, or Assad, who was still in power at that time, but China. And it seems that 10 years later, there is this consensus that has formed.

1:19:09 Biden continued the tariffs that Trump implemented. He actually expanded upon them on the other side with the subsidies and the Inflation Reduction Act and in the infrastructure law. And then the Europeans also agreed to. The Europeans are now increasing their spending, preparing for a war in the United Kingdom, talking about, we're going to be fighting Russia on our soil. And of course, the the foreign policy establishment in DC, they're all 100% behind defending Taiwan and fortifying that island chain. So it does seem that Trump has recapitulated the establishment in a weird way. It's almost like he fortified the old regime, whereas the old regime was dying and going down and clearly America was in decline and in retreat. It's like Trump kind of led America to refortify NATO

1:19:58 and now the quad in the Pacific. And now all the militaries are bigger. NATO has a much bigger military. The United States has a trillion dollar defense budget. Now there is all this confidence in the government, whereas before there wasn't. Now everybody has confidence in the regime. So You almost have to reflect on Trumpism and say in some ways it was successful, but for whom? Was it successful for the base, for the white working class? We've gotten destroyed by the COVID stimulus and the quantitative easing and the supply chain disruptions. We've gotten destroyed by 10 million illegals under Biden. There's this war with Russia. If anything, it seems like it was a giant win for Silicon Valley. It was a giant win for Wall Street. It was a giant win for many of the institutions that I think before were kind of hanging at the seams. And then if you're forgetting the one big one too, Warp Speed.

1:20:52 And the vaccine, that's right, Pfizer, exactly right. mRNA, yeah, I do, I forget about that all the time, but you were on that before anybody else. A vaccine mandate. No, no, I wasn't like a got you, I was another, didn't have pleasure to bring that one up. Yeah, the question is, are we being pimped? And look, Trump does love America, he's doing a lot of good policies. The one thing, and I'm not trying to just have a fight with you, but They killed border enforcement the last four and a half years. He has scaled up. They are going after a lot of people. They are getting the gangbangers. They are changing the rules, stopping the remittances. So I think overall criticisms by some of the super radical right wing that I love to talk about you, obviously, you're the archetype of that.

1:21:41 And I don't like all these skilled visa things replacing Americans and stuff. And Trump's been too friendly to that, but he always said he was gonna do that. So I don't really think that's a broken promise. And I really think he's trying to secure the sovereignty of the country. You see Stephen Miller up there saying this is the existential threat, is this invasion. So in that area, why do you think that's a betrayal? I don't really see it. Well, in 2016, his policy was against the H1Bs. He did change that in 2024, you're right. As far as the H1A view, because that's really what it's gonna be. They're saying we're gonna have mass deportations, but it's gonna be for criminals and it's not gonna be for these illegal immigrant laborers on farms, in hospitality, in restaurants, construction sites. The reason it's a betrayal is because I think there was this deliberate deception

1:22:32 which was to portray the policy as sweeping enforcement. In other words, 10 million illegals came in under Biden. There might be 30 to 40, maybe 50 million illegals in the country. People want all of them gone. We want all the illegal immigrants out of the country, at least the 10 million that came in under Biden. And so when you had at the Republican convention, people are holding up mass deportation signs. People are having in their minds, sweeps, sweeping enforcement. We're gonna pick up anybody that's illegal and take them out of the country. And even though they kind of had their fingers crossed back then, now they're saying, well, it comes with a caveat.

1:23:11 strategic mass deportations. We're going to strategically not deport the illegal immigrant farm labor. We're only going to deport the criminals. And that's actually what you would call targeted enforcement. That's not sweeping. That's targeted. That's not massive. That's selective. And people kind of hate that. And this was always the deal. This was the 86 Reagan deal. This was compassionate conservatism under George. You're right overall that he's not doing exactly what he said, but I think I know you know a lot, but if you go to South Texas, And then it's the middle of nowhere and the Mexicans come across and do it and they're really nice and they've been doing it for generations. They're great farmers, they go back. There's nobody down there to do that. I mean, so in areas like that, I mean, it's part of the culture. I mean, after all, the Mexicans have been down there since before this was Texas. And my thing is I don't want to wave Mexican flags and screw America and everything, but I love the Mexicans that are Americans and totally buy into the culture. But those folks down there want to live in Mexico. So I think that's a finer point there. But then it goes into hospitality. I get what you're saying.

1:24:15 Well, and listen, I'm a reasonable person. I recognize we're probably not going to deport 50 million people. I get that. And if you want to leave some, I guess that makes sense. But they lied. They lied about it. They said we're going to do mass deportations. Everybody's going to go and then they didn't. He said we're going to do this BBB. We're gonna give 150 billion for ICE and for customs and border in the big beautiful bill. And that was like a bait and switch. They said, we're gonna do a million deportations per year. And then the second it was passed, he came out and said, yeah, but we're gonna take care of the farmers. We're gonna do H1A visas. We're gonna do a work program or something. They just, they lied last year. They lied to pass the bill. They just lied. And you know, maybe that would have been a debate and I think it's a legitimate debate. Well, you're saying is a hundred percent with us. I want to finish this point and ask you about Iran. Anything else you want to just do 10 more minutes with us. You've been very nice. Nick Foyntes, find them on exit. Nick J Foyntes, find them on rumble. Nick J Foyntes. And I usually watch your show when it's not live in the morning. What time is your show on a live?

1:28:56 Why are you thinking it's over? And then what do you, by over, what is that? And then what do you think the effect on Trump will be? Because he rode in on the populist movements that were already growing all over the planet. And what Ron Paul and myself and our listeners built were recognized by the bad guys at think tanks as building the, taking over the Tea Party in the last 20 years and building the platform for Trump, his launch pad. And so regardless of what happens to Trump, This anti-globalist movement is unstoppable in my view, unless they can start some type of major nuclear war or some new virus. Nick Fuentes.

1:29:38 Well, the reason I think it's over and I'm just done with him is because he's really betrayed us on a lot of the key issues already. I mean, this is the first six months of the second term. And the big question which was hanging over people like you and me, and by that I mean people that are paying attention. We knew the problem from the first term is that he had bad personnel. And that's a fair problem to have. He's an outsider, he's inexperienced. He relied on Reince Priebus and Paul Ryan and these other people to basically run his first term. And it was a disaster. They had a horrible legislative agenda and then they lost the midterms. You had personnel that were just disobeying and deceiving the president constantly. It seemed like it wasn't until 2020 when John McEntee came in at PPO, that things really started to come together in any way when they started building the wall, when they started doing some other initiatives, when he really even had any kind of semblance of competency in the administration. So the question was, is it gonna be different?

1:30:39 There's been this four year interregnum, Trump has kind of had to sleep on all of it. He had time in his first term to learn. He fought his way back from the dead, politically speaking. So the question was, will it be any different or will it be more of the same? Are we gonna see a truly unprecedented level of achievement and change? Will there be this energy? Will there be this political will to do things that weren't possible before? And we're six months in and the answer is no. It's being used for all the wrong things. Here we are six months in, we have done the corporate tax cut again. That was like the centerpiece of the big beautiful bill was to extend the 2017 tax cuts. And there's something in there for tip earners, but it's capped at $25,000 is not great.

1:31:24 It's a corporate tax cut, big deal. You have Trump bombing Iran, which is an immediate break in the promise of no new wars. There's gonna be more of that down the line. We might touch on that later. He does this big program for deportations, but they're not happening. Already we've had to fight tooth and nail for months to get them to commit to deporting people. They keep trying to resist this and say, no, no, we're gonna do targeted enforcement. We're not deporting the farmers. We're gonna give them an H1A carve out. We're gonna do a work program. And then this Epstein thing. And I said this on my show last night, this isn't you, but this was a lot of people in 2024. They said, hey, just trust the plan. Just trust the plan. All you need to do is kind of be quiet and just unconditionally support Trump. Don't be too negative. Don't be too skeptical or critical. That will impede his plan and his progress. And yet,

1:32:19 It's July of the first year and all of his most dutiful surrogates are having to basically do damage control and lobby him every day to just do the basics. Don't do an amnesty. Don't go to war with Iran and have regime change. Don't do this Epstein cover up like this is every day now and it's like the biggest pro Trump influencers are having to lobby him and beg him every day. And for me, it's like I'm out. I didn't sign up. We did this the first time. I mean, are you got are you not tired? I remember in the first term, you know how it was.

1:32:54 In the first term, we played this game, fighting the personnel, fighting all the terrible people in the PPO, the chief of staff, all the so-called bad guys in the cabinet. We were fighting them in the first term, trying to get people from the campaign into the administration. Let me ask you this. Look, here's my problem. I agree I'm seeing a lot of bad signs, obviously. But like I said, if there's, Trump's like a boat, we're in the North Atlantic, it's freezing cold, we get in the water, we're dead in 30 seconds, 50 below, and it's starting to leak, and I'm wanting to fix the leaks, and then the other boat is the Democrats, and their boat is on fire with 50 demons dancing around on it. So I'm not getting in the boat with 50 demons dancing around in a fireball, and then I'm in this boat leaking, what am I supposed to do?

1:33:47 Well, I don't like this analogy because it sort of assumes that we have to do the Republicans every single time. It sort of says like, well, the other option, it's this lesser of two evils thing. The other option is totally- No, I'm just talking about right now, because I want him to keep decimating them. Sure, you got this new America party. I was going to lead to that next. What do you think about that? And what's your prediction for the Elon Musk Trump battle? You said when you first came on, I bet Elon resurfaces. He resurfaced right after that. Yeah, I like it. I like it if for no other reason than it kind of shakes things up. I think that right now it's sort of to your point what you're saying we have no good options. There's a leak in our boat, which I think is self-inflicted. The other boat is just unacceptable. And so I've always been, that's why I was supported Andrew Yang in 2019. That's why I supported Ye, our friend back

1:34:35 in 2022. And people said, well, Trump's obviously gonna win, we need to get behind him. I said, I like shaking things up. I like the idea of introducing options, creating pressure, creating different forces. Because if we are left to our devices, which is Republicans and Democrats, it's like that classic analogy they use or that idiom where they say, It's two wolves deciding what's for dinner and we're the sheep, we're the food, we're the prey. So I like if Elon has a party that is like kind of a neoliberal party that says, we're gonna have a bunch of Indians and cut taxes. It almost creates a situation where the GOP implicitly becomes like a nationalist party. What's the difference between the America party and the Republican party? If the Republican

1:35:20 Republican Party is nativist and against immigration and doesn't care about the deficit and becomes like a culture war party. Maybe that's a good thing. Maybe we become a four party system where you have a progressive party and a liberal party and a nationalist party. And I understand maybe that's not how it's going to play out. But if we're getting closer to something like that, I don't think it could get much worse than what we have now. So in the immediacy though, I guess I'm just venting my frustration. I just feel so sick and tired. I'm sure you are too of this game. It's like, we're not even six months in and we're like begging him not to do an amnesty. Well, Nick, you definitely got your finger on the pulse. So do I. All I hear everywhere, because here's the next shoot to drop.

1:36:04 We're not seeing prosecutions of high-level globalists for the human trafficking, all the crimes, the hundreds of billions stolen on record. Instead, Musk was doing too good a job, was kicked out because the Republican establishment didn't like it. And then where are the bills we heard about to start cutting funding? So when I talk about broken promises, I don't say they're broken yet, but it's definitely stalling out, and that's not a good sign. So leading into that, what Where do you think Musk is going? And then I want to get into Iran and the time we've got left because, yeah, for those that don't know, it's being reported. Israel wants to go ahead and hit Iran again. They think the US is going to join them. And then I asked the question, what is the excuse for that going to be? Will the globalist stage a false flag and blame Iran? Iran's put a FATO out on Trump, totally unwisely.

1:36:54 So now it's hard to believe that it wasn't them. Netanyahu looks like he's on 15 hits of ecstasy. That's not a good sign. What's happening? Well, as far as Elon is concerned, I think he has no constituency. So I don't know if that's going to go anywhere. You know, he called on all of his supporters to call Congress and oppose the bill. That went nowhere. So I think he's really overestimating this. Well, he's talking about targeted Senate races. I just don't think he has any kind of the poll that he thinks he does. Politics, it's a network rather than a money thing. I don't think that he can just buy his way in. Clearly that had no effect on the passage of the bill. And the passage of the bill, that hung on like a few votes.

1:37:37 If they had four votes in the House, if they had four votes in the Senate, they could have sunk the big beautiful bill. He couldn't even muster that. It passed in the House by two votes. It passed in the Senate by a few. So if he couldn't overturn the bill, how is it going to have any effect on that? I just have no faith in that, although I wish there was more of an impact. And what do you make of Trump saying a couple of weeks ago, Maybe we'll just turn the monster Elon created loose on him on Dr. Frankenstein. Maybe maybe we'll just put a doge on him. I mean wow that's aggressive It's sick, it's sick and it's terrifying. I mean, and it almost makes you feel kind of like one of these liberals. Liberals say about Trump, he's destroying our institutions. He's a megalomaniac. This is like authoritarian. And you hear them cry about that and you roll your eyes and say, okay, idiot. Trump got impeached, he got charged. There was a peaceful transition of power, give me a break. But when he does stuff like that, it's like,

1:38:32 Clearly, the American government should not be run in such a personal way. Clearly, there should be a level of professionalism. It should be impersonal. And if you are gonna be personal, hey, directed at Hillary Clinton. We're gonna go after Elon Musk before we go after Obama. We're gonna give Hunter Biden clemency. We're gonna turn doge on Elon. That's just like a level of insanity. Even the most diehard Trump cultist, which I at one time considered myself, it's too much even for me. But That's Elon. As far as Iran is concerned, we talked about this a couple weeks ago. We're obviously not out of the woods here. And you know that because Trump tried to have a diplomatic resolution to the problem. And the problem is Iran has this nuclear hedging strategy. They have a latent or threshold nuclear program. They don't wanna give up their capability, the capability to enrich uranium.

1:39:24 wanted to force them into a deal with this maximalist approach, making these threats, putting pressure on through sanctions, threatening a return to the status quo. They wouldn't budge. They said we're never giving up enrichment and why? We don't trust you. The Iranians are saying if we give up enrichment, Israel will attack us, you will support it and we are gonna die. Like literally the Supreme Leader, the President are gonna be hanged. they're gonna literally die. So they're like, we don't wanna die. We don't trust you. We're not giving up our only deterrent, which is this program. They said, but what we will do, we might restrict the enrichment. We might be able to make some concessions, but we're not giving it up.

1:40:07 What is Trump and Netanyahu do? They bomb Iran. And I said the first thing that's gonna happen, even if it's not a full fledged war, is Iran can never trust Trump. Netanyahu and his government come out and say Trump was in on it the whole time. Trump was stringing you along. Those negotiations, the diplomacy, he was lying to your face. He was lying through his teeth the entire time. It was a trick. And it was meant to lull you in a false sense of security so we could attack you. Now, they did that very deliberately because what this does One, is it tells Iran you can never negotiate with Washington ever again. Cuz they hate you, they wanna destroy you, they're lying to you, they're untrustworthy. But it also forces Trump into a position where either he has to look like an idiot and say, we didn't know what the Israelis were doing, we're not in control of the situation, we cannot restrain them if we wanted to.

1:41:04 Or else he has to come out and agree with them and scuttle their own diplomatic effort and say, yes, we did know, we know everything and we lied to them and they can never trust us. Well, what did the Deputy Foreign Minister of Iran come out and say today? After Trump said, we're gonna begin negotiations again, it's gonna happen this week, we're gonna pick up where we left off. The deputy foreign minister says, we have no idea what Trump is talking about, there is no meeting. And they said, we're not gonna meet with them, we haven't decided if we're gonna meet with them, why would we? He said, we don't trust the Americans. He said, before we begin meeting again, we need to rebuild trust.

1:41:41 Yeah, obviously, if you come out and say everything we told you about a peace deal was a trap so that we could actually kill you and your leadership, then we're going to go and say, hey, no hard feelings, right? Let's just shake hands and let's try and make a deal. Yeah, of course not. And so we are right back where we started, where Iran is refusing to give up enrichment Israel wants to bomb them again. That's why Netanyahu came to Washington. And Trump is in the middle. And by the way, I said that before the bombing. I said they're not going to get the enrichment. They already took it out. The Iranians even admit that. It was such a setup. And then Trump's like, it's done. It's over. It's like, no, it's not. This is all. And then even some of our listeners are like, this is easy. Trump's going to shut down Israel with this.

1:42:26 Alex, you just trust him limited strike. It'll all be over 5 trillion DHS. And then of course it wasn't, we're proven right again. So let me shift gears into this with you. Tell me a little bit gracious. Give us two hours. Nick Foy test on X, Nick Fuentes on rumble. Be sure and check out a show 9 PM central at night, which I catch almost every day in the morning when I'm researching, I don't watch it live. Usually Nick, pulling back from all of this. Let's look at the wild card here. Let's not count the Soros deep state left that is not giving up. I see some of the Democrat establishment kind of rolling over because they realize their rhetoric's backfiring and now the election fraud investigations are starting.

1:43:08 But you have the Democrats in Axios, it's the CIA mouthpiece saying there needs to be blood. Democrat lawmakers say their base is preparing for violence. They've shot up and attacked two ICE facilities the last couple days in Texas. They're attacking ICE all over the streets everywhere. And they've geared up for this violence. But now Democrat leaders are like, oh, the violence is coming, but we didn't do it after they already primed it. That's a real wild card there, and I'm really concerned about it and the Podesta plan for civil war that Trump had won in 2020, which they then said we're going to implement this time if he wins, which they now are trying to get going. The no kings thing, the bizarre stuff in Minnesota, this is something I think we should not forget about the Democrats. What's your view on that?

1:43:55 I have a really bad feeling and I don't know about you, but I have this really bad sense in my gut, especially after the Luigi Mangione thing. They glorified that guy for months. They made him into a celebrity and you had women throwing themselves at this guy, sending him pictures of themselves and so on. And that's on top of the two assassination attempts against Trump. That's on top of the violence against ICE and against Border Patrol. I have this feeling that we're gonna look back on this period the same way that we look at 9-11. The same way that we look at some of these other convulsions throughout history where we say, how did we not see it coming?

1:44:35 How did we not see the warning signs? How do we not see this undercurrent beneath American society that's about to explode? And what I mean is that probably out there in America, and I don't mean to say this to fear monger, but you probably have to bet money that there is some Ted Kaczynski level Genius leftist who is in his workshop building a dirty bomb, planning out some high level mass casualty event, ready to go. After the Trump assassinations, the glorification of Luigi Mangione, the rhetoric on ice to no Kings Day, 250th anniversary of America, which is going to be celebrated throughout the coming year.

1:45:15 this rhetoric surrounding Trump and authoritarianism. I mean, maybe it doesn't happen. It's one of those things where it's like, who knows, maybe it'll all be fine. Maybe Palantir will thwart any plot now. They see everything, it's a panopticon. But I do just have this really bad feeling Maybe this is the media priming the pump, but between Luigi and this other stuff, it's like there's definitely someone out there who was inspired by that that we don't know about yet. There's someone out there that saw that and said, I'm going to do that. I'm going to be like, I don't think it's a, I don't think it's just a feeling. I mean, we all know the subconscious more powerful than conscious. It knows all the data with a conscious focus. Part of the cerebral cortex is only giving an error focus.

1:45:55 100% we have the Podesta plan for blue states to secede, blue cities to secede, all based on migrants being mowed down during immigration enforcement, then they postpone it because they steal the election, then they produce civil war that is a wet dream promotion or almost lesser magic where they're producing something to hope it happens and then now they're trying to put it into function. The question is will they get this thing launched, Nick? And what do you see coming out of that? Because it's an incredibly dangerous gamble by the globalists. It's terrifying. I think then that goes against the idea that Trump's gotten the main globalists to give up, you know, with this deal on the Epstein files to suppress those. Or we all know the globalists aren't just one block. A lot of these NGOs, like you said, are already primed. They're already brainwashed. There's lots of lone wolf ideologues out there. I don't think it's a question of if, when. We already just saw two ICE attacks the last few days. I think we're going to see a lot of violence.

1:46:56 I mean, here's how it's gonna play out. What gives me a little bit of hope is that when you had the protests against ICE in Los Angeles, they started out very violent. And then they had their No King's Day protest and that was relatively nonviolent with the exception of the very bizarre Minnesota situation, which we don't even really know all the information on that super weird and a lot of questions on that. But I think there was some self consciousness on the part of the left that they said, we're losing people. Even they started handing out American flags in LA because they said the optics of Waymo is melting into the street and like cars blowing up and people riding around on dirt bikes waving Mexican flags. People said that's not the best look if we want these people to stay here.

1:47:39 It's not a good look to brand them as foreigners ruining America. So they were literally handing out saying take these American flags so that it doesn't look like Mexico is invading the United States. So that gives me a little bit of hope because how this would happen. And then we have the president and the leader of their Senate say, we will use our forces to do this. I mean, we've gotten to that level now. Right, so and that was not doing them any favors from an optical point of view, from a PR point of view. And so how this will play out is you're gonna have maybe a mass casualty event. It'll be executed well, there'll be a high death count or something like this. And surely I think the left wing will disavow that. I think that we're not so far gone where people are gonna hype that up. I think everyone is gonna be incumbent on them to disavow.

1:48:26 The question is, does it continue at sort of like a low boil in a disorganized way? Is there gonna be any kind of element of far left radical element and Antifa element in a decentralized way that is sort of continually inspired by these things like from-. They just attacked two ICE facilities in Texas. But what about the wild card of the false flag? What about mowing down a bunch of illegals blaming Trump? It's possible. I mean, I think they did that in Buffalo. I think they did that in El Paso. None of these people are ever far from the FBI. They did it throughout Biden. So certainly you could get it from both sides. I think though, of course, the inevitable conclusion of all the political violence is you're gonna get more surveillance. And really the big thing, this is something I've thought about a lot,

1:49:15 It's a question of when you're gonna see the first drone terrorism. I've thought about this a lot. It's such a no brainer. It's obviously taking off in Ukraine and Israel. When are you gonna see a bomb strapped to a drone go and hit some crowd of people? Because once that happens, everything will change. It's gonna be like a 9-11 level vulnerability moment, where you're gonna get the equivalent of the Patriot Act, the TSA, you're gonna see anti-drone jamming, you're gonna see a new level of surveillance. I agree, that's how the real police state, the 150 million for border enforcement is really gonna become, like Ron Paul always said, they're not building the wall to keep people out, they're building it to keep us in. Nick, you'll be on at eight or nine o'clock tonight whenever you launch your show, America First, people can find it on Rumble and on X. Thank you, Nick Puente, that was amazing, two hours, thanks for staying longer.