Saturday, 15 November 2025

FRIDAY EMERGENCY BROADCAST: MAGA Civil War Erupts Over Epstein Hysteria & Trump Demands Investigation Of Clintons For Their Deep Connections To Epstein! PLUS, Tucker Exposes DOJ Coverup of Thomas Crooks’ Handlers! Max Blumenthal Joins Alex Jones, And Says That Trump's Perceived Mindless Support For Israel Is Destroying MAGA In Real Time! Roger Stone Exclusively Responds To NEW Epstein Allegations Against Trump! FINALLY, Top FBI Whistleblower Kyle Seraphin Chronicles Embattled FBI Director Kash Patel's Bizarre Crashing Out! THIS IS A MUST-WATCH/SHARE FULL SHOW! — 11/14/25

The MAGA movement faces an internal crisis as President Trump orders a full Epstein document release while top loyalists are accused of suppressing evidence in the Thomas Crooks investigation.

By The Alex Jones Show | 3h 50m listen | 39 chapters
FRIDAY EMERGENCY BROADCAST: MAGA Civil War Erupts Over Epstein Hysteria & Trump Demands Investigation Of Clintons For Their Deep Connections To Epstein! PLUS, Tucker Exposes DOJ Coverup of Thomas Crooks’ Handlers! Max Blumenthal Joins Alex Jones, And Says That Trump's Perceived Mindless Support For Israel Is Destroying MAGA In Real Time! Roger Stone Exclusively Responds To NEW Epstein Allegations Against Trump! FINALLY, Top FBI Whistleblower Kyle Seraphin Chronicles Embattled FBI Director Kash Patel's Bizarre Crashing Out! THIS IS A MUST-WATCH/SHARE FULL SHOW! — 11/14/25 cover

About this episode

Donald Trump has reportedly ordered the Department of Justice to launch criminal indictments against the Clintons and JP Morgan executives following new pressure to release the full Jeffrey Epstein files. Alex Jones reveals that while the deep state previously coerced Trump into a cover-up, the President is now demanding total transparency to expose Democrat connections to the pedophile financier. This shift comes as Speaker Mike Johnson prepares a House vote to declassify all related documents despite ongoing threats of a government shutdown.

Max Blumenthal and Roger Stone join the broadcast to detail a growing rift within the MAGA movement over the influence of the Israel lobby and the conduct of FBI Director Kash Patel. Allegations have surfaced that Patel is using his foundation to sue conservative whistleblowers like Kyle Serafin while skipping standard security polygraphs for himself. Meanwhile, investigative journalist Brianna Morello presents evidence that the FBI ignored the digital footprint of Thomas Crooks, which suggests the Butler shooter was radicalized by foreign Antifa elements rather than acting as a lone wolf. Additional reports indicate the FBI excluded 51 law enforcement phone numbers from the January 6th pipe bomber geofence data, further fueling claims of a federal protection racket.

Roger Stone defends the Trump economic record while dismissing the latest Epstein allegations as a coordinated hoax intended to distract from Bill Clinton’s ranch visits. Max Blumenthal warns that Miriam Adelson’s massive campaign donations are shifting the administration toward an Israel-first foreign policy that could lead to a catastrophic intervention in Venezuela. The program concludes with Kyle Serafin’s analysis of Kash Patel’s recent meeting with MI5, where the director reportedly violated diplomatic protocol by bringing unauthorized civilians into classified briefings.


CHAPTER 01 / 39 Discussion

Alex Jones, Donald Trump, and Epstein Cover-up Allegations

Alex Jones claims the deep state and the CIA pressured Donald Trump into joining a cover-up regarding Jeffrey Epstein's activities to protect high-powered Democrats. Trump is now reportedly calling for the Department of Justice to release all related documents and launch criminal indictments against the Clintons and JP Morgan executives. Jones asserts that Tucker Carlson has released significant information regarding FBI handlers and accomplices involved in the Thomas Crooks assassination attempt in Butler, Pennsylvania.

alex jones· donald trump· jeffrey epstein· deep state· tucker carlson

00:00 The government fears Alex Jones, who has the largest audience in the country, bigger than any of the networks, the biggest megaphone in the country. The deep state hates Alex Jones with a vengeance. Alex Jones is the most extraordinary person I've ever met. Oh my gosh, I start almost every broadcast by saying all hell's breaking loose because it is, the quickening's here, but this broadcast is going to be insane! Oh my goodness. InfoWars, tomorrow's news today. I am seeking the truth, nothing more. And I 100% call what was gonna happen with the Epstein stuff, how it was gonna be a disaster in the last 10 months when the clear coverup began by this administration. And I had top whistleblowers on, experts, insiders, behind the scenes stuff.

01:11 And I knew why Trump was joining the cover up. And it's because it's all these lawsuits and all these criminal cases and most of it's in you endo and it's an old case. And it implicates a bunch of high powered people. And the CIA came to him and said, it's facade with us, we need to just shut this down. And Trump knew surely that 90 plus percent of the people with Epstein are high powered Democrats. And so he kind of wink wink made the deal and Then the Clintons and all of them turned around and they've been cherry picking and selecting stuff to put out to implicate Trump. And it is a hoax that he's done something illegal with Epstein, there is no evidence. They would have already used it, plus the witnesses, the victims, I mean, all of it. But then Trump stepped into the cover up and became guilty by association. And if he was gonna do that, it's still immoral and bad, but you can see him not having a head in the clouds.

02:20 Trying to have other big issues because you can only focus on so many things I could see the thought in that I would want to agree with it, but I could war game the different understandings Just like I understand why we need regime change to be good in Venezuela But I don't trust the CIA and the globalist. I mean be walking into a new Vietnam. So see that's nuanced That's that's real thought well III said no Trump you need to release everything that is there even though most of it's just cherry-picked old garbage and I predicted what that would be and I said they're gonna double-cross you and And I got really pissed and a lot of the pro-Trump people thought that I was attacking Trump. No, I was trying to get him to not step into a damn bear trap. We need him to succeed. And I told everybody months and months and months ago, have the archivist grab it. I said, it's so much, it's hours of it with total precision. I'm just saying, I know what I'm talking about. Gotta have a lot of layers of info and data to be able to have this accuracy. When the Democrats are dumb enough to come after him with it,

03:20 He would then order the DOJ to go ahead and just release everything and go ahead and launch criminal indictments of the Clintons. And that's exactly what he called for today. He said, well, since you're launching this hoax on me, you need to be specific. What you had before, you mean it's a hoax that you did something wrong. Not a hoax there is anything there. You've explained that before. People went, oh, you're so pissed about it, I get it. You just say the whole thing's a hoax. A new Russiagate. Trump now wants criminal investigation of the Clinton. Trump asked DOJ to probe Jeffrey Epstein dealings with the Clintons, JP Morgan and others. And we already know the head of JP Morgan and the head of Harvard, we all know the names. It's hundreds of them. And it will be devastating for the country and devastating for the stock market. But you know what? That's good. Let's just, justice be done, may the heavens fall. But you could see the next move there. This is all deduction. This is all second, third, fourth, fifth order consequences.

04:18 That's how a philosopher, historian, futurist brain works. That's what I do. This broadcast is 3D chess. Now Trump plays 3D chess on issues he knows. It is not 3D chess on other things. And he's explained that. He said, I didn't know how DC worked. I didn't understand how corrupt it was. I didn't understand that if I shared power with them and had prosperity, you know, that they would stab me in the back. I've learned a lot. Yeah, you have learned a lot, but not enough. So ladies and gentlemen, We are gonna get to that and then just so much more. Tucker Carlson just dropped the hydrogen bomb on the deep state on clear handlers and assistants, accomplices with crooks trying to kill Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania and in the current FBI trying to cover it up. I mean, there's so much more stay with us back in 60 seconds. All right, here's the big news today. We're covering it all massive gas so much more today. The Epstein thing has

CHAPTER 02 / 39 Discussion

Trump, Bongino, and Patel Epstein Investigation Criticisms

Donald Trump is criticized for making a "deal with the devil" by initially allowing the Epstein investigation to be suppressed before reversing his stance. Dan Bongino and Kash Patel are accused of acting as "hostages" for the establishment by claiming Epstein committed suicide and that Thomas Crooks acted alone. Jones claims top experts have proven a second shooter was involved in the Pennsylvania assassination attempt based on bullet trajectories and Secret Service stand-down orders.

dan bongino· kash patel· jeffrey epstein· thomas crooks· secret service

05:33 come to the peak so far of its importance and exactly what I knew was in there is in there. All of it's already been out. It's all complete innuendo and crap. And so Trump is going after the Clintons and everybody's saying, fine, open the whole damn thing up, even though it's going to destroy the economy. And I'm not sure it is, but it's going to be really bad because the DOJ and the Comeys and all them that hid all the stuff they wanted to hide, never had anything on Trump. They left a bunch of innuendo and recycled crap, all this old stuff that's not true, all disproven, or nothing burgers. But they're still gonna continue to bring this out. So Trump's like, it's a diversion, it's Russiagate, let's move on. And they're not gonna let him do that. Even though I can tell you when they all came and kissed his ass when he first got back in, the deal was made. So Trump made a deal with the devil

06:42 And now the devil's trying to shove a pitchfork up his butt along with us and the rest of the country. So not good. And then they had Bongino and Patel go out there like they're in the headlights, like hostages and say, oh, Epstein killed himself. And oh, Crook's acting alone. And oh, there's no accomplices and nobody else with Epstein. And the Easter bunny is real. And I was like, oh my gosh, what was that eight months ago? I said, this is a disaster. We went and had interventions. We said, we understand this is what's gonna happen. This is how it's gonna unfold. You're being set up, Mr. President. No matter how painful this is for all these big Democrats, you gotta let them have it because A, it's immoral to make a deal with them. And B, they're gonna turn around and stab you in the back. Well, I guess the president and Bongino and Patel aren't as sophisticated as I am or as Roger Stone is. But yeah, I love the naked gun where the building's blowing up, missiles are exploding and

07:55 He's like, nothing to see here. Everything's fine. I mean, what the hell? I mean, I'm not happy about this. I'm laughing cuz I'm really freaked out. I mean, we need Trump to succeed. My God, he's night and day compared to the Democrats. But when you see the Epstein cover up, you go, he's screwing the kids. No, folks, you see the cover up. the accomplices with the guy trying to kill Trump in Mar-a-Lago. You see the total cover up of accomplices and helpers with Thomas Crooks in Pennsylvania. You see the cover up a big pharma. You see the cover up by the institutions of the pipe bomber reportedly being a fed and the CIA. And all of that because it's the same institutions and Trump hasn't gotten control of it. And he can't even get them to go after the deep state who committed their crimes out in the open.

08:52 And so yeah, we've got more traction than we got eight years ago because Trump got some decent Supreme Court people comparatively and did some other good stuff and kind of held off the great reset a little, but they used the COVID thing to derail it. Our plan, 1776 worldwide plan, but now no, no, no, we're, it's night and day how much good we're getting done, but it's still Not enough, and I've been saying this, they're gonna try to crash the economy, they're gonna try to get riots going, because that's the Podesta plan, and they're gonna bring this Epstein thing out, they're gonna try to create a MAGA civil war, that created the cracks 10 months ago, then Gaza peaking and the Israel lobby obnoxiously saying, censor everybody, take everybody off the air, shut up, everybody from Tucker Carlson to Alex Jones to Nick Fuentes,

09:45 All of that has been done, that's caused a big rift and it's now civil war maga. And real pollsters that I respect who've been right 99% of the time, like Martin Mitchell has been hitting the panic button for a few months. And now you see it everywhere and he predicted all this and people go, he's just a panicking. No, it's good when Trump's doing wrong and stepping in it to say, stop that. We're his constituents, We got him in there. We're not a Democrat Party cult that's given talking points. We are in control if we exercise our will. So the Epstein thing is peaked. The Crooks information, I mean, that would take hours getting to, you already know it, but I mean, totally set up 100% deep state operation, multi-agency, you guys are total cut out.

10:40 When he didn't get Trump, they had the other shooter try from 600, 700 yards out. We have the trajectory of the bullet, it hit the bags, the people, everything. Crooks is shooting this way, the other person's this angle. I mean, this is all the top experts on 100% clear, you can see the damn bullet. And the Secret Service said they shot Crooks. No, they didn't, they just stood down. Then a cop shot him. So it's all going down, ladies and gentlemen. And then it created a rapid reaction force to go after Tucker at the FBI.

CHAPTER 03 / 39 Discussion

Megyn Kelly, Tucker Carlson, and Media Mercenaries

Megyn Kelly is described as an opportunist who has moved toward the populist side due to the current political climate. Jones recounts a personal anecdote involving a phone call with Kelly where she allegedly sounded like a "sex operative" while discussing dessert. The FBI has reportedly created a rapid reaction force to target Tucker Carlson's reporting on the Thomas Crooks investigation.

megyn kelly· tucker carlson· fbi· andrew cuomo· media

11:21 People are really getting it. Megyn Kelly and others have said it's clear they're trying to hype things up to get Tucker killed. Now they're attacking her. We'll get to all that. And look, Megyn Kelly is an opportunist. She's a lawyer. Very smart woman. She's basically on our side now. And if we ever start losing, she'll jump back to the other side. It's what she does. But she's emblematic of the fact, I mean, Andrew Cuomo tries to sound like us, Fredo. They all do because we're the populace. We're the winners. We're winning worldwide.

11:57 But good, come on over Megan, come over fully. She says nice things about me now. I'm not gonna turn my back on you. Certainly not gonna have dessert with you. I'm coming to town, I'll get to eat with you and have dessert. I was just like, come on lady. Literally sound like a sex operative on the phone. I said, I don't usually record people, I went and found another company phone. I said, let me call you right back. I'm just like, bloop, bad. But I mean, what people will do for their $50 million a year salaries or whatever it was. So you see the NBC host, Total Devil, now that she's selling to the general public and it's pretty accurate, good information. But that's what it is to win. When people that were previously mercenaries join us, it's a sign of our victory. Don't be mad at her. Just don't turn your back on her. So you're a little too skinny for me, honey. So getting serious, I apologize. I was trying to say nice things and I was just mean. It's what I do. I'm real. I just can't help it. So

13:10 Notice she never said she didn't say the dessert part because she doesn't know if I recorded that part or not. Oh, the dessert? What dessert is that? Is that cherry pie? What is it? Key lime? Coconut cream? I'm sorry. When I get under stress like I am right now, I start being goofy because this stuff is just... Top of my head just blew off this morning with the stuff breaking. So you have the Epstein thing going super galactic Nova. You've got the Crooks thing blowing up huge. You got Kash Patel through his surrogates, literal, his foundation, FBI lawyers suing people that criticize Israel that have never even said anything bad about him or his girlfriend. They literally admit that in a lawsuit. That's come to a huge head. We then have Bloomberg's Onion running around bragging again that they're going to be taking over Infowars.

CHAPTER 04 / 39 Discussion

Kash Patel, Lawsuits, and Infowars Auction Status

Kash Patel is accused of using his foundation and FBI lawyers to sue influencers like Elijah Schaefer who are critical of Israel. Jones discusses the potential takeover of Infowars by Bloomberg's The Onion, describing the legal process as a "sword of Damocles" hanging over the network. Patel is characterized as a "bug-eyed weasel" who is engaging in un-American lawfare against the MAGA base.

kash patel· infowars· bloomberg· elijah schaefer· lawfare

14:11 Even though the receiver from the state won't tell us anything and says he's planning to have an auction. I guess it'll be like auction last time, but there isn't an auction, it's just given to them. So we got that sort of Damocles hanging over our head. And we have the criminal investigation and all this being killed by Todd Blanch, the Democrat. But that's the big takeaway is you have not as many, but still in key places, Democrat globalist operatives, and then people that have been co-opted through dirt on them or I don't know what. that are totally going along with it energetically. And let me tell you, behind the scenes and Congress has released documents, you name it, Bongino is all over the place on the phone telling top journalists and folks, hey, don't you say that we had a White House meeting and told people we're not looking at any accomplices to Charlie Kirk's reported shooter or any foreign governments? Even though that's on record that happened, stop talking about it. And now,

15:17 They've created a rapid reaction force. The FBI has created a new rapid response account on X to respond to Tucker's reporting about the information and the FBI continues to hide about Trump's shooter, Thomas Crooks. And it got a community note on its first day. Has any other account been community noted in its first day? Well, the point is that they think, and this is what Kyle Sarifanis certainly said about 10 months ago. He said they've gotten people in there, he knows who they are. who are the old PR people that are setting them up with bad PR. I mean, listen, if you think getting up there like they're in the headlines and saying Crooks acted alone, I promise you, I can't tell you but I've seen the evidence, everybody knows it was a cover up, it's public. Epstein killed himself, I promise you don't ask questions, all of this crap. And the body language is the most disingenuous like

16:19 Sylvester caught with Tweety Bird in his mouth and he's saying, when granny comes over with her umbrella and Sylvester's like, I don't have Tweety Bird in my mouth. And then she cranks his mouth open and there's Tweety Bird inside the mouth with feathers hanging out. I mean, seriously, we ought to make up with AI, the famous, just feed it to image, maybe Grok, Bongino and Patel eight, nine months ago on Fox, but during the headlights look, and let's just stick Tweety Birds in their mouth. And maybe granny with the umbrella about to beat him on the head with it because, and that's not a threat, it's the cartoon. I mean, it's just ridiculous. It's like you tell your kid stop getting cookies out of the cookie jar. You can have some after you eat your spinach and your dinner. And then you go out of the kitchen while you're cooking and you come in there and the five year olds up against the wall with their hands behind them going, and you see crumbs on their cheek and you go,

17:12 I told you don't eat the chocolate chip cookies. And you walk over, they got half a cookie in their hand. They go, I don't want to have to whoop your ass, but you just lied and lying. I ain't going to put up with let's go to the bedroom. I'm going to whoop your ass. Get up against the bed, take the belt off. I don't give you five here. Don't lie to me. This is like catching cash, but telling Bonjina with her hand in the cookie jar. And you're like, what are you doing in the cookies? I'm not the cookie jar. Your damn hands in the cookie jar. You got a cookie in your mouth. Except this ain't a cookie. This is covered up for attempted murder of the president and a damn CIA Mossad pedophile operation. And then you're suing influencers that are critical of you. A, that's un-American. That's what the Democrats do. And B, the base ain't gonna put up with that, honcho, hombre, compadre. I mean, if I wanted to destroy myself,

18:14 I would do exactly what Cash Patel does. And you know, he did good interviews. He sounded smart about the New World Order, the Federal Reserve. He did a few good jobs for Trump. I was like, oh, you know, great. But I was like, he does look like a sneaky, bug-eyed weasel. But I don't want to judge books by their cover because, you know, you got some of these stone-jawed FBI agents and federal prosecutors that are the most corrupt people ever, but they look like Clark Kent. And they're the worst. I'm like, okay, well, maybe, you know, I bet that, I mean, look at this. That is not a very trustworthy looking person. And he's gotten more like that since he's gotten in there. So a little bit of a power trip there, my friend. So people aren't going to put up with this crap. But let's get into the Epstein thing first. I did this yesterday, and I showed the documents, but I think Glenn Beck did a better succinct job of it. And I've looked at each piece, everything the Democrats have released. This is the worst stuff they've got.

CHAPTER 05 / 39 Discussion

Steve Bannon, Glenn Beck, and Epstein Email Redactions

Glenn Beck's analysis of redacted Epstein emails suggests that the Democrats blacked out Virginia Giuffre's name to make old information appear new and incriminating against Trump. Steve Bannon's involvement is dismissed as mere political spamming rather than a criminal connection to Epstein. Jones warns that the Israel lobby's aggressive censorship efforts are creating a rift within the MAGA movement and could lead to violent escalations.

steve bannon· glenn beck· jeffrey epstein· virginia giuffre· mossad

19:24 They got it from the Epstein family, all his emails, all his stuff they wanted to hand over. And it's Steve Bannon wanting to interviewing him and interviewing him once. And Steve Bannon sending him political emails on his email list about cutting taxes and getting rid of Jerome Powell and all this stuff. I get all that stuff from Steve Bannon. Hey, get on this. I don't even work for him. It's just like, hey, you ought to cover this. This is an important action topic. We got to get this confirmation done. He's just spamming it out. And that's the best thing they've got. But it's like, bat it in there, and all of it had already been out. Trump, they blacked out the name of the victim. And it's Jafri, cuz we already had the email unredacted years ago. I told you that yesterday, we'll show you an example. And it's Epstein saying no, no, Trump wasn't involved. To Wolfe, the writer, asking him. And all the victims said that, and he kicked him out of the club over it. But by selectively writing this, they've been deceptive.

20:32 But Trump asked for it with his behavior since he got back in office and the decision was made by him. Remember I said this when the cover up began eight, nine months ago, I said Trump has given the order for this cover up. And people got so pissed at me and we had stations even calling, man. And I said, it's clear, the wording, all of it. And then it came out two days later, it was indeed Trump. And then he starts putting out through social saying, yep, I'm the one, this is bull. I told him focus on the border and crime and arresting Chinese spies. This is a distraction. I got a lot of apologies over that, I appreciate it.

21:11 We had a couple of radio stations saying, hey man, we're pro Trump and we're gonna cut your ass off. And I had emails sent back and said, I'm sorry, I respect you as a station, but I'm not gonna stop. Plus I already had information, I'm gonna leave it at that. But Roger Stone's on later, he's one of the sources. And he said I could talk about this a few months ago, but reluctantly. And I'll press him on it today, but he told me when Trump was president elect, he said, you're not gonna get the Epstein stuff. It's CIA, you know that because it's gonna be covered up. Plus they've cherry picked and they've had the file, it's full of a bunch of recycled crap. And I talked to FBI sources, they said, yeah, that's what it is. And so Trump heard that, he was like, okay, yeah, no, we're done. There's none of the real meat and potatoes in there. But we know the people, we know who the women say

22:03 And it ain't Donald Trump, it's 90, like 95% Democrats. Bank heads, university heads, politicians, you name it. And now Trump's calling for all of it and wants the DOJ to go after him. The problem is they won't, cuz they're part of the same system. But he should have done this in the last six, seven, eight months cuz it was the right thing to do and your constituents would love you and back you. Instead, you did the political thing, the Machiavelli thing, and now you're getting the repercussions of it. I mean, if you were gonna cover it up, like I said at the time, and some people interpreted this and look, he's telling him how to cover up. No, I said he should have done it, but I war game stuff. I said if you're gonna cover it up cuz I know you're not involved, shut

23:00 Oh, my constituents, if you want to look at Epstein, you're an idiot Democrat, Mark, and you've been conned by them and you're not MAGA. Just like Mark Levin and all of them. If you don't want to have nuclear war, you don't want to have us tell you what to do, you're anti-Semitic and you're not MAGA. None of you guys were for Trump. I was one of the first people to endorse him. I don't need to hear that from you. Pro-shot, pro-open border, pro-world government, pro-censorship. You're not Americans. You're absolute 100% high-level Mossad operatives. My God. I bet Levin's a colonel in the Israeli military. I mean, I just cannot take it anymore. And I don't hate you because you're Jewish. I don't hate you because you're Mossad. I hate you because you're trying to bully us and get in our face and acting like a bunch of assholes and then energizing the Nazis. See, because I'm actually thinking multi-level dumbass, but they're not actually that dumb. They're creating a big crisis and they'll come out on top.

24:01 After some synagogues get hit soon, which I said eight months ago on Tucker is coming and I told people that are doing nothing but go after Israel constantly. I go, you think you're getting all this attention and all this stuff? What happens when the Democrats use this to blow up MAGA and they know how much power you got? They're going to throw you in prison. I've told Foyne test this. So this is, I said, I know you're tough. He's not scared. I said, you should be. You should be understanding, not just don't be scared to do the right thing. Even you get killed, but this will lead to a conflagration. Think second, third, fourth order that is going to be so destructive. And it doesn't mean you don't expose Israel and America first. It's just saying, understand all these other ingredients have been added for the second, third, fourth order events that are coming and it spells out destruction. And that's exactly what Tucker said last night.

24:57 So what are you gonna do when somebody truck bombs a Jewish center? What are you gonna do when somebody goes to a synagogue and shoots 300 people? Because I can see the last ingredient to this. You have to be an idiot not to. And then where are we? Now this has gotten so out of hand and people turned on Israel so much, I'm gonna warn Netanyahu and I'm gonna warn these Mossad agents right now. And you know, I'm giving my real advice and I'm known at the FBI, the CIA, everywhere have tried to hire me for my ability to understand this stuff as a top analyst. I mean, seriously, but you don't have to be that smart to know this. You're not, if you actually trigger this, you're not gonna get out of it. You think because you got nuclear weapons, this is gonna end up okay?

CHAPTER 06 / 39 Discussion

Elon Musk, Mike Johnson, and Epstein File Release

Speaker Mike Johnson has announced a House vote to release all files related to Jeffrey Epstein, a move Jones claims the Democrats previously blocked through government shutdown threats. Elon Musk's efforts at the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) are reportedly slowing down due to swamp resistance. Jones argues that the documents released so far regarding Steve Bannon and Donald Trump are "nothing burgers" intended to distract from Democrat involvement.

elon musk· mike johnson· jeffrey epstein· steve bannon· house of representatives

29:54 and do it being a bellwether, a symbol of whether or not the government can be trusted or not. And Trump's absolutely horrible handling of it and where this fiasco is going. I told people 10 months ago, they started rambling. I said, this is gonna be a big deal. And then when Elon got run out of there, I said, this is just as big, these are the big cracks. And then now the Israel stuff and you add all that together, I mean, Elon at Doge was killing it. And I mean, killing the deep state by cutting their funding out. Now that's slowed down almost to a

30:31 standstill compared to where it was. And this is a swamp fighting back. Nobody said this would be easy. And Trump's got a big job. He does such a great job in so many places. It's just that we cannot sit here when Trump's making major mistakes, we can give him bad advice and suck our thumbs and go along with it. All right, so Glenn Beck did a great job yesterday and all the new stuff they released today, same crap. There's nothing there. People talking about

31:12 Votes in the house, people talking about the Federal Reserve, Bannon spamming news to people. I got my phone right here with him sending me stuff yesterday. So that's what I do too. I send him stuff, so send him stuff back then. So that's your, and it was all old, it was all known. This stuff was already there. So my job is not defending Bannon, I'd already looked into it and said there's nothing there. And again, the Democrats, the name is blacked out. This probably isn't Jufri, it's another woman. But that woman says Trump didn't do anything to her. No, it's Jufri and all the others. But the Democrats blacked it out on purpose so they could act like it was something else. And then Crockett gets up on CNN. He goes, you notice the Republicans blacked out the name, so I don't think it's Jufri. And even the CNN host goes, no, it's the Democrats blacked it out. They released it.

32:16 And Johnson's like, no, go ahead and vote, release it all. Now the Democrats were like, eh, no, see, yeah, don't release it all, just cherry pick, get it out ahead. Oh, Trump kicking him out of Mar-a-Lago. Oh, Bannon coming and meeting with him once for a TV interview that we've seen clips of. See, now you get what they're doing. And I knew this beforehand. So why did Trump? shake hill the investigations. Because all the billionaires came to him and the rich Democrats and the heads of universities and hedge funds that said, listen, this is old and a lot of it's just innuendo and we want to work with you. Can we just, and then do you think that the Democrat party would ever abide by a deal they made with you? I mean,

CHAPTER 08 / 39 Discussion

Glenn Beck, Virginia Giuffre, and Republican Morals

Glenn Beck highlights that Virginia Giuffre previously testified that Donald Trump did not participate in any sexual misconduct at Epstein's properties. Jones argues that the MAGA movement has higher moral standards than the Democrat Party and will not cover up evil for political expediency. He defines himself as a "populist Christian patriot" rather than a traditional Republican.

glenn beck· virginia giuffre· mike johnson· republican party· tea party

40:30 You think you can discredit, remove Trump and stop us? That's hilarious. You think you can take our purity and get us to attack Trump and get him out of the way for you? That's a symbol of how good we are and how strong we are. Now we're not going away. You see our purity as weakness. No, it's our strength. All right, let's start getting to the clips. So here's Glenn Beck, did a great job with the documents. You can go through each one of the emails, it's the same story.

41:14 All misrepresentation, all crap. This is what the Democrats got? And now they don't want the full stuff of the Epstein released? Oh, you wanted to say release it, say you had it, Johnson saying release it, and then all the stuff you're releasing is the most pathetic, recycled nothing. Here's Glenn Beck. Why are they trying to cover up that Donald Trump had sex with children? I mean, it's as clear as day in the email. Let me read what Jeffrey Epstein wrote. I want you to realize that the dog who hasn't barked is Trump. Victim, redacted, spent hours at my house with him. He has never once been mentioned.

42:00 New information just released. Or is it? Because in 2011, that was released and everybody knew it. It's been out floating around. Here's the change. I want you to realize the dog it has in Bark is Trump. Virginia spent hours at my house with him. Why would you redact a name that is already out in the public square? Well, because it makes it all suddenly new and shiny. You see victim and you're like, oh, there's a victim that he was, who was the victim? But when you know it's Virginia, you know this is already gone to court. She already testified about this. And I'm quoting, this is from the testimony. He didn't partake in any of this, any sex with any of it. It's true. This is not

42:44 New news. If you remember when the shutdown first started, what did the Democrats say the reason why they did the shutdown? Why Mike Johnson and everybody else wouldn't negotiate? Because the heat was on to release the Epstein files and they didn't want to have to do that so they shut the government down. So the government is open and what does Mike Johnson do yesterday? He said the House is going to vote on a bill to release all of the files related to Jeffrey Epstein next week. Good, Mike, release all of it. If anybody thinks that you're ever going to get the truth on this in the first place, it's madness. It was in the hands of the Democrats for the longest time. You don't think it was all picked through? And if there was anything about Donald Trump, you don't think that would have come up between 2020 and

43:33 And 2024, there's nothing in there about Donald Trump. And Bongino and Patel and all them did a horrible job and contradicted Bondi. And I'm not sure who's worse, but believe me, I mean, I need the Justice Department to do a good job. I want to do a good job. I am horrified by all this. No, it's just like Roger Tullman when Trump was reelected. He said, no, CIA wants to cover it up. He goes, I can't give you the details, but it's nothing's coming out, the CIA, besides, he's right. And so Trump did this and Trump, it's terrible. But there you go. But the Democrats are the ones screwing the girls and all the rest of it. It's them, they're all in there. And now Trump's like, okay, fine, then release it. And the Democrats are like, no, God, no, don't release the full thing. Just let us release some cherry pick stuff here. My goodness, I called it, it wasn't hard to call it.

44:39 And I was the bad guy in MAGA, I was undermining Trump. Oh, I was, oh no, we need to shut up about Epstein. Well, the majority of MAGA has morals, unlike some of you that, I noticed people that always say don't criticize Trump had just jumped on the bandwagon. You're political babies, you don't know what you're talking about. And obviously this is a hot button issue. I've been exposing it since day one, one of the first. It could bring down the whole globalist system and it's got to be done. And so we're not like you. We're not like Democrats that'll just cover up evil because it's quote our party. I'm not a Republican. I'm a populist Christian patriot. And I wanted to reform the Republican parties of the Tea Party and Ron Paul. We built that beachhead and we've done it to a great extent. It's way better than Democrats. Okay.

CHAPTER 09 / 39 Discussion

Alex Jones, Intelligence Agency Visits, and Future Analysis

Alex Jones claims that various intelligence agencies, including foreign ones and the "Q group," have attempted to recruit him due to his analytical abilities. He credits his family background in engineering and military science for his success as a "futurist analyst." Jones urges his audience to take action themselves rather than waiting for a savior.

steve bannon· q group· oss· intelligence agencies· futurist

45:27 But that's all it is, is a vehicle to save the country and the world. Okay? And if it ain't doing that, or people aren't doing that, we'll take them to the woodshed. That's what we do. We're in charge, the American people. Folks always ask, who funds you? Who are your bosses? When I get sued, they always ask. They always go to the emails. Where's the orders? Where's the directives? Where's the plan? Well, the crew sees it. I come in here hours before, all these articles, videos. I come on the air. It's talk radio on TV. And the left just can't believe it. That's one of the reasons that they defaulted me in these fake suits. They said, he won't give us the marketing plan. He won't give us the news plan. He won't give us the talking points, the directors, because they don't exist. When they deposed my dad over and over again, it's seen at the headline. There is a plan, it's in Alex's head. And only in the end did they figure it out. I mean, I've been in these meetings, at the time, we're just kind of the world's lawyers are trying to buy me off. They got me there under another pretense. And they're like,

46:35 Are you working with the GS79Q4 group? Or is it the... And the Q, it's a Q, he said Q. They've been calling super top secret stuff Q on the OSS from before World War II. That's why they call James Bond's technician Q, dumbos. The point is, is that they're like, are you a GX79 or the Q group? And I'm like, I don't know what that is. I know it's some classified grouping. No, I'm Alex Jones. Sure. So we checked. You're not with the Russians. You're not with the... Are you with the, and they're saying terms that are like super classified, I don't even know, and I'm just like, no, but I've studied all this, and I don't like what you guys are doing, and I'm not for sale. Because they all work for somebody. They all take orders. I'm gonna say it again. You know who gives the orders in my life? You know who gives the orders on the show? You know where it comes from? Right here. This guy's in charge. And you can be in charge of your own life too, and have your own views and your own will that you impose on the world.

47:50 But that is what spooked them out, cuz I had other intelligence agency visits and things too, including foreign ones I mentioned. Cuz they went and got the database of my family and some of the stuff they've been involved in, but they never told me anything other than the government's corrupt and evil and you can't trust them. So I didn't grow up around all political science books and military books and engineering and, but I was never told any of this stuff. I was just told how the world works. So I was in the right soil with the right mind and the right background. to be a futurist analyst, expert of experts, the best. And I don't say that as a power trip. The enemy already knows I'm the best. Steve Bannon says I'm the best and I don't know, he's super smart. But there's a few of us, okay? But I am the best. I'm as good as it gets, boys and girls. And that's why they want me shut up. Because if you start actually understanding how all this works and get multifaceted understanding,

48:53 And don't just think one dimensionally, they can't control you. And you're smart enough that you can learn what I know and more. So you wanna know who's gonna save us? Nobody's coming to save us. You gotta look in the mirror. Maybe you're a truck driver and you see something, get footage of it, or, you know, it's little things. You're not gonna save the world in one big swoop with a, you know. No, it's lots of little good deeds and being an inspiration to others that changes the world. We got Max.

49:29 Blumenthal coming on with huge news. We'll hit all the different angles that tie together on this. And we got Megyn Kelly and Tucker saying to the Israel lobby, cool your heels and knock it off. You're going to get people killed. This is incendiary. You're crazy. You need to stop. And there's all this other news. But bottom line, they're called the dark days of the dawn. The globalists are making their move on Trump. And they know that Trump supporters are moral and care, so they can then misrepresent a bunch of stuff and a few missteps of Trump, blow all those things up really huge and get us all to commit political suicide. No, we don't abandon Trump. We rush in and influence Trump and influence the information, influence the lawmakers and stay maximum engaged. We don't take our balls and go home. We're not black pill, we're not white pill, we're action pill, we're victory pill.

CHAPTER 10 / 39 Discussion

Infowars Bankruptcy, US Trustee, and Free Hat Promotion

Jones discusses the one-year anniversary of a "fake auction" ordered by a judge in his bankruptcy case, alleging that the US Trustee and the Justice Department intervened to prevent him from staying on the air. A 48-hour flash sale is announced for Shilajit gummies, which includes a free "Murdered Out" Infowars ball cap.

infowars· us trustee· bankruptcy· shilajit· bovine colostrum

53:44 Last year, the judge ordered an auction. We had groups to buy it that would keep us on air. We later sued them. I got the internal emails of the US trustee of the Justice Department that intervened in my bankruptcy. They're talking to the Democrat Party plaintiffs and they said, we're not going to ever let him stay on air. We're just not going to, we're just going to cancel the auction and basically give it to you. But tell the judge in the world it was an auction. Remember all that? That auction was today, a year ago. How embarrassing for them. And a lot more has obviously come out, a lot more is. I don't know what's gonna happen. I'm gonna be here until they come in there and turn the lights off. Lights off, buddy. The website's shut down. This is what happens when you search for the site. Quote, unavailable until further notice. So Ben, what is your plan for the site?

54:41 We're going to take it and take the universe that Alex created and just pave it over. We're gonna create a new world where hopefully in a couple of years if you think of InfoWars, you'll either think of this day where we pulled off this very ridiculous joke where we're able to purchase InfoWars as is. And there is an investigation of that going on. I'll just stop there. They already know. They've been visited. But they don't care. They just go forward. And I said, you cancel the auction. This isn't a real auction. I'm going to go challenge it. And the judge wasn't corrupt and blocked them. So just remember what we've all been through and all the other stuff. What would you control? I mean, I really would like to control Infowars. No, that's a good answer.

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CHAPTER 11 / 39 Discussion

Max Blumenthal, Elijah Schaefer, and MAGA Civil War

Investigative journalist Max Blumenthal joins the program to discuss a "civil war" within the MAGA movement between the base and the donor class. They discuss Kash Patel's lawsuit against Elijah Schaefer for a tweet regarding Mossad "honeypots." Blumenthal highlights that Patel is using his foundation to target conservative whistleblowers like Kyle Serafin.

max blumenthal· elijah schaefer· kash patel· kyle serafin· mossad

1:02:27 Alright, investigative journalist Max Blumenthal joins us in 60 seconds. You don't want to miss this information. This is critical intel. Share live feeds now. We'll be right back. Ladies and gentlemen, as I predicted, and it wasn't hard to do, MAGA Trump land is now in a three-front, really four-front civil war. And when I predicted his handling of Epstein being so disastrous 10 months ago, people got pissed at me. Like I was a party pooper. And then when you saw all this bizarre Israel first stuff, and then added Kash Patel running around, you know, through his proxy suing everybody for absolutely nothing, like Elijah Schaefer. And then you've got Trump saying, yeah, there's no talent in America, they're going to use that. And the rest of it.

1:03:26 It's a disaster cuz I mean, the Democrats for all the Republican problems are absolutely a rotten fish from the head down. I mean, they're just bonker town dangerous. And so we need Trump to succeed. But that said, Trump's base is not like on average to serve all Democrats. They're more sophisticated and they're based on moral guidestones that they expect. So Trump went down like six, seven points. We had the pollsters on there, very accurate, like Mark Mitchell, when he said, if you want Epstein out, you believe that.

1:04:07 You're not MAGA, you're not in our movement. Well, that's like 95% of your base. I mean, that's like, you've been happily married 10 years and one day you just come home and beat the shit out of your wife and you wonder why she's leaving you. I mean, this is like, maybe you can knock her upside the head a few times, she forgives you the first time you go to counseling, but I'm like, don't beat us up anymore or we're gonna have to get in the station wagon with the kids and leave. I mean, that's my analogy. Then he's got Patel suing people with lawfare and using lawfare liberal terms like microaggressions. And well, you didn't say she's a Mossad agent, but you did criticize Israel before. I mean, this is disgusting. And then we've got Todd Blanch. It's not enough he killed a criminal investigation, the ones he knows about, into the Democrats, the DOJ suing me and creating the big

1:05:01 Lie that I did all this stuff to people to raise money for themselves. He's like Jones is fringe It doesn't deserve help and then he you know He's keeping people in jail that are heroes that expose election fraud in Colorado and Patel's up there during the headlights saying no crooks acted alone And now they've been caught and I don't just have this from sources. I have it from our reporters. It's about to break We're on Morello. He did have social media. He did have metadata. I And it all got scrubbed and they got caught lying about it. So now you have Cash Patel and them joining in on the cover up that went under the Democrats and everybody knows what we saw. And that's a whole nother thing. We could do 10 hours on that. I know that Delta Force, Green Berets, Navy SEALs, I'm a decent shooter, not a ballistics guy, but Crooks gets off his shots. Somebody else, when he doesn't get the shot, shoots from way off in the woods or by the water tower. You see it hitting the bags and hitting people.

1:06:00 bigger, higher caliber. And they're like, nope, nothing going on here. And his parents are both behavioral psychologists and his house is like a clean room. And, and then, and then, I mean, he goes on and on and then you got the pipe bomber stuff coming out and now they get a rapid reaction force trying to shut that down. Now the FBS created a rapid response team to go after Tucker. And you've got all the neocons probably Masada agents, quite frankly, you know, making open threats, kill the, kill the Fox in the hen house, you know, neutralize it. And even Megyn Kelly figured this out and she's like, what are you going to do when somebody bust a cap and tuck her? This is dangerous folks. So that's a lot. I don't know where he wants to go first. Cause I want him on about the Elijah Schaefer suit. Cause I saw Elijah reading off of it.

1:06:48 And I called him and I said, Elijah, have you posted the suit? I go, I believe you. Because he did similar stuff to me. This is even crazier. He goes, oh yeah, maybe I should post it. I'm like, yeah, you might want to post that lawsuit. So he gave it to us. It's worse than he said. I mean, this is, they go, well, it's true. He didn't ever say he's a Mossad agent, but he did criticize the Gaza war. So he deserves to be shut down. I mean, what? And then it's his PR firm, his charity, his law firm, FBI lawyers. People are like, is it a proxy? It does a bear shit in the woods. So I'm going to shut up now. We only have like 30 minutes, 35 minutes. Max Blumenthal, great journalist, really smart guy. The grayzone.com. He broke the Elijah Schaefer stuff. And he's again, joins us right now. Really appreciate him coming on with us. I'm going to try to shut up because I've kind of already thrown out my wad there, but

CHAPTER 12 / 39 Discussion

Venezuela, Marco Rubio, and Epstein Disclosure

Max Blumenthal warns that Marco Rubio is pushing Donald Trump toward a disastrous intervention in Venezuela based on false claims about narco-cartels. They discuss how Kash Patel and Pam Bondi reportedly suppressed Epstein files and intimidated members of Congress like Lauren Boebert. Blumenthal argues that Patel's legal actions are an attempt to silence the America First voices that supported Trump's comeback.

venezuela· marco rubio· kash patel· lauren boebert· pam bondi

1:07:41 This is just, this is wild. Where do you want to start? Do you agree we're going into MAGA Civil War? You want to start with the Elijah Schaefer suit? You want to start with the Epstein stuff? Because it's all interconnected. Where do you want to go? I don't even know if we can call this a civil war. It's like the base against the donor class and all the phonies that the donor class has just has just put out there. It's the 99% of MAGA against the 1%. That's the way I see it. Exactly, it's a literal class war. The real populist movement that took over the Republican Party is now at war with the Republican establishment that's a uniparty holding on by its fingernails. And something I do wanna talk about at some point, but I think we should cover everything. No, you got the floor. I'm gonna shut up right now. You're saying, but Donald Trump

1:08:31 is being pushed by Marco Rubio, one of the co-authors of TPS, to attack Venezuela. He's about to destabilize South America and cause another massive migration wave and a civil war in South America. They're lying about Venezuela being a narco-cartel government. The cocaine and fentanyl is not coming from there. It's coming from the West Coast, from countries that are allied with the U.S. And they're going to bring real cartels there from Colombia, flooding Venezuela. It's going to be a disaster. They're lying to you about that. They've lied again and again and again. And I think people are starting to wake up to being sold out on all of these promises. And Trump saying he was going to fight the deep state. Kash Patel said he was gonna fight the deep state. He started a foundation.

1:09:25 to take on the deep state with legal action. And now he is using the chair of that foundation to sue Elijah Schaefer and other America first personalities, including a former FBI agent, Kyle Serafin, who is a conservative FBI agent, someone who wasn't part of the so-called liberal deep state because Kyle Serafin, what did he do? He embarrassed Kash Patel by exposing that he was taking the FBI's jet on our dime as US taxpayers to go on a date night with his girlfriend Alexis Wilkins to see her sing the national anthem at a pro wrestling event in Pennsylvania. I think he was flying out from Las Vegas. And he basically ran for FBI director years ago against Ray saying he used a private jet. And then he uses it way more than he did.

1:10:20 Yep, I mean way more. And so first of all, I don't know why Cash Patel, it would be much more convenient to move in with his girlfriend, but he's still living with his male roommate in Las Vegas. And he's now filing a $5 million lawsuit against Kyle Serafin as well. And he's suing someone named Sam Parker, who as far as I know, I mean, I haven't even heard from him, so he probably can't even afford legal counsel. I'm going to say, why go after, why go after, because Serafin said a little bit, but I don't think it's defamatory. He just covered what was being said. Maybe she's a honeypot. You're allowed to say that. He'd say maybe she's a Martian. Maybe the moon's made of cheese. But now going after

1:11:01 Elijah Schaeffer, I mean, they actually say he didn't say anything. This is crazy. Right, right. He posted a photo, a real photo of Kash Patel and his girlfriend quote tweeting a quote about Mossad honeypots in Iran. And it was obviously tongue in cheek. It was obviously humorous to me. Because a lot of people in the MAGA base, from my point of view, are wondering what the hell happened to Kash Patel. He was promising radical disclosure on Epstein, on the JFK files. And now he's claiming, he sounds like Epstein's lawyer when he's testifying before Congress, claiming Epstein trafficked women to New York.

1:11:42 To no one. He actually said no one. What he meant was no one but himself. But this sounds like something Alan Dershowitz would have said. And then his partner in crime, Epstein's is in prison for trafficking and abuse, but it doesn't exist. Right, and so he signed the joint memo with Pam Bondi in July to basically suppress the Epstein files. Trump is bringing Lauren Boebert into the Situation Room, I think with Patel and Bondi, to intimidate her against signing onto the petition to release the Epstein files. Everybody in Congress knows

1:12:21 all the GOP members of Congress. No, it's the kiss of death to go against this petition. But Donald Trump is obviously afraid of something. He's afraid of being exposed further. And Kash Patel's role is not only covering him, but he's using his own foundation, his own personal lawyer, hiding behind his girlfriend as proxy to sue the voices of America First, who helped make Donald Trump's comeback possible, including Elijah Schaefer, who I think has been your co-host and been a guest on your show. So they're attacking you by proxy. Well, I mean, I have a lot to cover with you, but you're smart guy. Let me ask you this.

CHAPTER 13 / 39 Discussion

Miriam Adelson, Israel Lobby, and Gaza War

The discussion shifts to the influence of Miriam Adelson, who donated $230 million to Trump's campaigns, and how this has shifted "America First" to "Israel First." Blumenthal details allegations of human rights abuses in Israeli detention centers and questions why the US must prioritize Israel's interests. Kash Patel is quoted as stating that America must prioritize Israel during an FBI interview.

miriam adelson· sheldon adelson· israel· gaza· kash patel

1:13:06 If I wanted to destroy myself, I would do the things Trump, Patel, and Bongino have been doing. It's perfectly done to make themselves look like villains and create mega-strikes and effects. What the hell is going on here? Yeah, I mean, it started, I think, in July where Trump lost his mystique. It's a symbol of something much bigger that I saw coming when Donald Trump was running for office and Miriam Adelson, the Israeli warlord, the Israeli Likudnik warlord, who is an American citizen but couldn't really tell you, probably doesn't know the rules of NFL football. Couldn't really tell you where a good steakhouse is in Denver. She's basically an Israeli who's here to manipulate the US government.

1:13:53 And is the heir to the fortune of casino baron Sheldon Adelson. And she and Sheldon have kicked in $230 million into Trump's campaigns. And she was one of the top funders of Donald Trump. And so I knew that his brand of America First was going to be turned into Israel First as soon as he became president. And then when he fails to release the Epstein files, people start asking questions about, for example, I don't know, Mossad honeypots. What was Jeffrey Epstein? He was clearly working with the Mossad. His closest friend was a former Israeli Prime Minister. And he was constantly there. He took over the family business from known Mossad asset, Maxwell's dad. It's ridiculously obvious. Right, right. I mean, Robert Maxwell ended his life. I mean, his final chapter was really in Israel and he was basically given a state funeral

1:14:48 in Israel. And Jeffrey Epstein, he's a bipartisan figure. You can see from these emails, he's like the epitome of of deep state. He's hanging out with Larry Summers one day, he's hanging out with Donald Trump the next day. Donald Trump used to cavort with Bill Clinton and hang out with Playboy bunnies with Jeffrey Epstein. So that was all well known, but now it's pretty obvious Donald Trump doesn't want it coming out. And now we see Donald Trump as a creature of this duopoly who's taking money from basically a foreign billionaire in order to And in inact measures on behalf of an apartheid state that just committed genocide right before our eyes. That is undergoing right now in Israel. They're having a huge scandal because soldiers have been caught on video raping Palestinian prisoners with batons.

1:15:38 in Israeli torture dungeons and the Israeli army lawyer who sought to expose it attempted to commit suicide and now she's being prosecuted and this is the country that Donald Trump is upholding as our greatest ally? And most of the media is defending it and they have Knesset members on TV saying they deserve it, we should make this an official law to rape people. Yes, and that they just passed a law in the Knesset to execute these captives. It's that kind of savagery that makes people question why we have to, in the words of Kash Patel, in December 2024, in an FBI interview, America must prioritize Israel. That's what Kash Patel said. Why does America have to prioritize Israel? I mean, some people watching this might have some pro-Israel opinions or might not be sympathetic to Palestinians, but why do we have to constantly prioritize that country? I'm not some Islamic lover, I don't want to blow up Israel, but

CHAPTER 14 / 39 Discussion

Heritage Foundation, Kevin Roberts, and Tucker Carlson

Max Blumenthal describes a "Maoist struggle session" at the Heritage Foundation after President Kevin Roberts suggested there should be a debate over US policy toward Israel. They discuss the pressure placed on Charlie Kirk and Tucker Carlson by pro-Israel donors. Jones and Blumenthal speculate on the potential for "false flag" events to silence critics of the Israel lobby.

heritage foundation· kevin roberts· tucker carlson· charlie kirk· aipac

1:16:35 the classic stereotypes and all this of what people said about Israel is definitely happening. Netanyahu's openly trying to take over the Republican Party from the beginning. He sees the weakness of the Democrats. And then you've got their spokesman openly making threats, getting very vicious, trying to bully America, which is the perfect storm to make people completely turn against Israel. So I think it's important to expose bad things Israel does. My issue is it's become the giant zeitgeist and it's only getting worse and Israel, Is completely losing the propaganda bottle and so what do you think the thinking is they're just arrogance or what what the hell's happening max? Blumenthal I mean what what we see they've clearly gone too far and they've had control over the Republican Party Well lock stock and barrel since there were these battles in the 1980s and early 90s in which Pat Buchanan and

1:17:28 and figures below him like Joseph Sobran at the National Review were basically kicked out of the movement. And the party started taking in tons of pro-Israel money, and then they created this kind of Christian Zionist movement, which was fueled by pro-Israel money that was-. That Nixon warned of, and Buchanan was just his protege. So Buchanan was just a hangover of Nixon, which part of the reason they removed him was because he was trying to stop the Israel lobby takeover as well. So now we see the same thing playing out then, but on a much greater level at the Heritage Foundation, which is like the outsource brain of the Republican Party. It's really where the conservative movement's ideas get turned into policy. And their president, Kevin Roberts, said we should just be able to have a debate over Israel, over US policy towards Israel as Americans.

1:18:15 And he was sort of referring to Tucker Carlson being able to host whoever he wants on his show. And that caused the biggest freak out and a donor threatened to pull half a million dollars from the Heritage Foundation. Kevin Roberts was treated to two hours of ritual humiliation from members of his own staff. It was a little Maoist struggle session. Yes, yes, it really looked like that. Other members of his staff who agreed with him, there should be a debate on this, were asked to go to a Shabbat dinner that Friday. And obviously if they didn't show up, they were going to be suspect. It's the same thing that was happening in TPUSA in the weeks before Charlie Kirk's death, where he was losing donors like the aptly named Robert Shillman who pulled $2 million out because Charlie Kirk said, I wanna focus on America and not this other country. And Kevin Roberts is about to, he may lose his job and he had to retract

1:19:09 everything. And now the top target is Tucker and Megyn Kelly, the Babylon Bee, which is supposed to be sort of the America first conservative onion, but really is an Israel first publication run by Seth Dillon, who's heavily involved with all these Israel lobbyists just put out a joke claiming Megyn Kelly just got rid of her old pager, referring to Israel's a major terrorist attack in Lebanon. So basically a death threat to Megyn Kelly. You have the Iran thing and Israel trying to totally exert open power, bullying of any conservatives or populists like myself, saying I work for Qatar and all this ridiculous crap, never even talked to them, got dollar one. All of that pisses people off. Then Charlie makes all these statements about, I'm America first, Israel isn't bullying me.

1:20:06 Then he dies then Patel gets caught we first broke it confirmed now saying no foreign involvement You're not allowed to investigate it getting in Tulsi Gabbard's face when they said they found Intel a possible foreign involvement and domestic groups So there's a cover-up there and and then you have all these threats coming out I mean, just open threats by Josh Hammer and by Levin and by all of them. And people are like, whoa, like I was on the fence. I didn't want to come out and implicate Israel. I don't think that I still don't see real evidence, but there's certainly like, like trying to do that, trying to be the villain. What is going on here? Yeah. What did Josh Hammer say that Tucker has to be neutralized like a, like a fox in a henhouse?

CHAPTER 15 / 39 Discussion

Ben Shapiro, Mark Levin, and Jewish Gangsters

Blumenthal compares the rhetoric of Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro to historical Jewish gangsters like Meyer Lansky. They discuss the "mafia-style" threats allegedly made by Levin against Tucker Carlson and other podcasters. The segment concludes with a discussion on how foreign interests are using non-extradition policies in Israel to protect embezzled funds.

ben shapiro· mark levin· meyer lansky· zelensky· mossad

1:20:45 And you wonder why people believe the conspiracy theory that Israel killed Charlie Kirk. I mean, look at how they're behaving. In addition to the global assassination ring that Israel's Mossad runs, look at how they're behaving towards America First personalities. Megyn Kelly gets basically a pager threat. Okay, I never said that there was evidence that Israel killed Charlie Kirk, but many people believe it and you wonder why. Do they care about anything else? Do they care about the precepts of America first, the original branding and ethos of making America great again, of bringing American jobs back, of closing the border and those kinds of things that got Trump elected? It looks like they only care

1:21:28 About Israel and yet they have this powerful donor class behind them Adelson Bernard Marcus Perlmutter Robert Shulman and they're able to control and manipulate organizations and then they start to seem like anti-semitic stereotypes which to me being an American Jew is really dangerous because this is what so many people see as the image of American Jews is Ben Shapiro saying that, you know, youth in New York shouldn't be able to live in the place that they grew up if they can't afford it and this is what America is all about. Well and saying screw Venezuela having family values. Family values don't matter. But it gets worse. Have you seen Levin in a weird, when he read Tucker Carlson's text messages about, hey debate me, said nothing about his stepson

1:22:19 And he goes, you just threatened my stepson. Yeah, I see you in person. You're gonna get it. And then he's up on a stage at one of these APAC groups and he's a week and a half ago. And he's like, you think your little show you got to get through us? Yeah, we're going to take you off the air. That's how I mean, he literally sounds like an Italian gangster in a stereotypical movie. I mean, whoa. Well, he sounds like He sounds like Meyer Lansky, who did the Jewish gangster, who did the books for Lucky Luciano and Chris Inostro. And Meyer Lansky actually helped set Sheldon Adelson up with the Sands in Las Vegas along with Bugsy Siegel. And that's where Mark Levin was speaking from wearing a gold tie. So he's basically like the PR agent for the mafia, threatening everyone saying you think your stupid little podcast can

1:23:10 Succeed you think anyone cares about your radio show will destroy you basically saying there's no democracy It doesn't matter what the people think we have this donor class behind us Well, I was told by a very important powerful billionaire. I'll leave it at that just a few months ago He said listen, this is very dangerous because we know we're trying to keep it out because it'll blow everything up You know, we just want stability, but he said this is Meyer lanes. He's group. It's the same group He said it's not like they just come from that it is that mafia. I I mean, but what you just basically said is they say no, this is Meyer Lansky, Bugsy Siegels, grandkids and kids. Absolutely, absolutely. And where did Meyer Lansky try to flee when he was kicked out of Cuba? He tried to go to Israel where they have a non-extradition policy. It's filled with mafia from Eastern Europe. The guy that just got rung up in this huge scandal rocking Ukraine who is considered Zelensky's wallet

1:24:04 has just fled to Israel. It looks like he embezzled like $100 million of taxpayer money, which is our money going into Ukraine. This is mafia stuff. Max Blumenthal will stay there, we only got like 15 minutes left with you. I want to come back, give you the floor on these other issues, how it ties together, incredible analysis. It's just true. And is it chutzpah? Is it arrogance? I mean, because Napoleon said never interrupt your enemy when they're making a mistake. Well, I don't think Israel's my enemy. I mean, and I can think ahead, this is going to be explosive. We've got Tucker talking about it. We've got We got Megyn Kelly too. We'll play those clips when we come back. Stay with us.

CHAPTER 16 / 39 Discussion

Netanyahu, Mark Levin, and the Young Turks

Alex Jones warns that Benjamin Netanyahu's "crisis management" is leading to a global conflagration and energizing groups like The Young Turks who want war with Israel. He defends Tucker Carlson and Megyn Kelly against threats from Mark Levin, whom he describes as being in an "insane bubble." Jones argues that the Israel lobby's bullying tactics are counterproductive and dangerous for Western stability.

netanyahu· mark levin· the young turks· tucker carlson· nick fuentes

1:28:18 I study second, third, fourth order consequences. And so everybody wants to blow Israel up, and this is so cool. I mean, I saw the Young Turks yesterday, from the day before, literally say, yeah, we do want to get rid of Israel. We want war with Israel. So there is that camp, okay? And that's where this goes. And everybody's got to get more anti-Israel to prove they're the purist, that just becomes the only issue. And it's an important issue, and then Israel behaving like this does make it a central issue. And it's just, it's disastrous When all these different factions aren't thinking further ahead. Israel has all these nuclear weapons. The whole world, it's the most unpopular country in the world now on Gallup polls. So with the way Netanyahu wants to cling to power by crisis creation and management, and then that supercharges all the other factions including the left and the Islamists and all that and the Mondamis, this just gets worse and worse and leads to a very bad place. And then God knows

1:29:13 What the Lacudniks will do, a false flag on a synagogue, something. I said that eight months ago on Tucker, he agreed. He warned that obviously they're teeing that up. This goes to a very, very bad place. It's like a game of chicken, but we all lose. So here's two short clips. Here's Megyn Kelly. She's being attacked and basically death threatened for this. Get rid of your Patriots, sweetheart. Because she's like, knock it off. Stop. Tucker's not a, quit escalating, Mark Levin. She knows them both. And then they come back and threaten her. And then here's Tucker just straight up, and I know Tucker well. He's so excited. He's the happiest he's ever been. He came to apologize to me 15 years ago for being a neocon. Pledged he'd never do it again. I was like, we don't become apologize to me. And he goes, well, you woke me up, my kids with your videos, and we've become really good friends over the years. And I hang out with Tucker quite a bit. I mean, he is bouncing off the walls happy. And everything he says on air is what he says behind the scenes. And he's like, I don't hate Israel. Like eight months ago at his house, he's like, Netanyahu was just calling up threatening me. He's like, we were hung out with him for days. He's like, he's like,

1:30:16 They're all after me. He goes, they don't understand they're gonna destroy themselves. This is insane because he can think out. He was stationed in the Middle East for years, blown up by terrorists with a CIA dad on a jumbo jet. They barely survived. And his dad had the thing covered up because they want to know the assassination almost worked. And he didn't even know till later. But the point is, is that This is hardcore dangerous. So here's the two clubs. We'll go back to Max Blumenthal and talk about where he sees this going and how does Trump extricate himself out of this? Or if he doesn't, what does he predict is gonna happen? Because this is a disaster, folks. And people, oh, not even God can sink this ship. The second term of Trump on this trajectory will be like the Titanic.

1:30:54 Okay, and we've got time to turn away from the iceberg, but not long. Okay? And believe me, the Democrats want to put me in prison. So I need Trump to succeed. What you're getting from me is, oh, you got Qatar. I put another turban on my head. Oh, Jones is doing this because of Qatar, this imaginary bull. All right, here's the clips. I know Tucker and Ben both, they are both under serious threats. Like, to be honest, I am too. Like it's, This is a very volatile time. I don't like to talk about it, I'm not going to talk about it, but I'm just saying I know both of them are under serious threat, so just put a lid on it, Marc Levin, because I guarantee you the wrong people listen to that and we could have another powder keg on our hands and you don't want that. You don't want that on your conscience. Just have a debate like a man.

1:31:39 on principle and why don't you show up at the turning point event and debate him? Just debate him. That would be so good for this conservative movement you claim to love so much. You know who's at the turning point events? Future conservatives and current conservatives. Young people. Young people. This would be a chance for you to influence somebody under the age of 70. You should show up there and debate. Why wouldn't you debate? He's so disgusting, you can't debate him? I can see not debating Nick Fuentes, to be honest, I can. Tucker? He's so far outside the mainstream? I get all like all the Jewish friends I have in my head who text me all the time like this is their this is my father. They would all debate Tucker. They would love to debate Tucker. They've got their facts ready to go all day. Why won't he do it and why is he sounding like a leftist shill with his rhetoric just trying to dismiss people as like these horrible bigoted people who I need to be you can't even stand next to them on a stage. This is this is not good for America first or the conservative movement and it's

1:32:32 Mana from heaven for progressives. You want people to follow you? You want to sell your ideas to them? You want to convince them of what you're saying is true? Show some love for them. Demonstrate that you love, you care about them. Why are we doing this? Because we think it's better for you. Shapiro and all of these guys, they don't make an effort to do that because they don't feel that way at all. Shut up, cattle. You're a Nazi. Give us the money for our preferred little country or else we're going to denounce you. Man.

1:33:08 Those attitudes are incompatible with leadership and in fact with democracy itself. You can't have a country of 350 million people governed by boutique goals and concerns. I really care so much about this thing and you better care about it too or else I'm going to attack you and de-platform you. It doesn't work. It's illegitimate actually. And if you keep it up, You're flirting with, you know, real backlash, like a real one. Not Nick Fuentes, like a real one. So cool it. Listen to other people. Don't treat them like cattle. Treat them like human beings. Meanwhile, Levin put out audio yesterday where he's like, I don't care about podcasting, you know that? I'm on talk radio. I'm the biggest. Sorry, you're not in the top 20, dumbass. And so it's just, it shows this insane bubble. Levin just wants the attention. He's literally making Israel the villain.

CHAPTER 17 / 39 Discussion

Qasem Soleimani, Mohammed al-Jolani, and JD Vance

Max Blumenthal criticizes Trump for assassinating Qasem Soleimani at Israel's request and for reportedly welcoming Syrian leader Mohammed al-Jolani, whom he identifies as a co-founder of ISIS/Al-Qaeda. They discuss the potential for these foreign policy decisions to poison JD Vance's political future. Blumenthal asserts that Israel is attempting to drag the US into a war with Iran.

qasem soleimani· mohammed al-jolani· jd vance· syria· iran

1:34:12 Max Blumenthal, Grayzone, thegrayzone.com. Speak to whatever you want about this and those two powerful clips, but also the danger of what we're talking about, where this does lead if this continues. We're seeing the danger of it. The US has become the eighth front in Israel's war. And Israel will be in a continuous war as long as it embraces this colonial model known as Zionism. It's been at war since its inception. As long as it insists on occupying millions of people, it's going to have a PR crisis. And people in the US are going to speak out and it's going to use its cutouts

1:34:48 to try to crush them, which is why you're seeing this battle taking place. This started actually in Trump's first term. He came into office with hundreds of millions of dollars from Israeli cutout, Miriam and Sheldon Adelson, and he proceeded to kill assassinate a figure who had posed no threat to the United States, who actually worked directly with the US military in Iraq to destroy ISIS. The second most important official in Iran, Major General Qasem Soleimani, and that started a war with Iran, which was going on today. Netanyahu asked Trump to do it, pushed him to do it.

1:35:26 He did it. And what did Trump do this week? He welcomed in the Oval Office the founder of the Al-Qaeda branch in Syria, the co-founder of ISIS, formerly known as Mohammed al-Jolani, who is in a U.S. prison, Camp Bucca in Iraq. who is now the president of Syria, not through any election but through force. He welcomed him in the White House and sprayed Trump perfume on him and his foreign minister. This is after demonizing Zoran Mamdani, claiming there was going to be a jihadist takeover of New York. He welcomes the head of Al Qaeda

1:36:03 in Syria. So what's going on here? Al-Sharaa, that's his real name, has promised to basically stand down before Israel. And in exchange for doing whatever Israel wants as the Syrian president, Donald Trump is willing to spray perfume on you even if you were an al-Qaeda mass murderer. So what is going on here? Israel is dictating so much of Trump's agenda. And now it's starting to tear Donald Trump's very base apart, demoralize it, and you ask where this is gonna go. Well, it's going to poison the presidential campaign of JD Vance. JD Vance, as far as I know, he's not like the most zealously pro-Israel guy like Marco Rubio is, who's a creation of the Israel lobby and the neocons. And he wants to chart a middle path. But if you try to chart a middle path,

1:36:52 People like Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro and Benjamin Netanyahu and Josh Hammer, they're gonna see you as the enemy. You have to either be all in with their mafia or you're out. And they will try to destroy him the same way they're doing his friend, Tucker Carlson and Megyn Kelly. And that spells disaster for the Republican Party. I agree. In closing, looking at the cover up of Epstein, Now you've got the FBI covering up Crooks and people helping him. You've got this rapid response team and it's all unraveling. Turns out they did have all this internet data and metadata on Crooks, said they didn't, that's all coming out from our own reporter. And she's coming on later. I mean, this is disintegrating very, very quickly.

CHAPTER 18 / 39 Discussion

Thomas Massie, Michigan Terror Plot, and False Flags

The interview concludes with a discussion on Thomas Massie's opposition to the US-Israel Defense Partnership Act and the targeting of his district by pro-Israel donors. Blumenthal suggests that recent "terror plots" and anti-Semitic incidents may be manufactured by the FBI to justify crackdowns on free speech. They warn that a US attack on Venezuela would be based on CIA-manufactured lies.

thomas massie· miriam adelson· randy fine· fbi· nicolas maduro

1:37:41 How do you expect the Democrats to play this? I mean, what are the different possible outcomes of this? Let me ask this, I should have said that. How does Trump extricate himself from this? I think going further than Vance did a few weeks ago where he says, we're not against Israel, blah, blah, blah, but we're America first and we run this administration. Well, then we need to see real action on that repudiation. Or Israel will become the number one issue, it already has, and will completely, I guess, have a battle with Trump for control? I mean, what's going to happen? I mean, I think the young people that are speaking out on both, within both parties, who are calling out the leadership on TPUSA's tour, for example, asking tough questions of

1:38:27 Trump's children about the $230 million from Mira Maddison, they're doing the right thing. They're not gonna be psyoped into falling back in line. And we're seeing the same thing with progressives. And let's be real, the Democrats sell out their base constantly. That's what they do. They just sold out their base on the ACA, and now they're focused on the Epstein files. If they were in power, they'd probably be suppressing the Epstein files too. This is about the people against the 1%, and it goes beyond any party. So it's important to keep focus on these issues. They'll understand that, but there's no opposition there. And as long as he keeps Israel in a state of war, then people have to rally around the flag. And that's why he's preparing another war against Iran in which Donald Trump said he was fully on board from the beginning with Israel's unprovoked attack on Iran, which wound up, how did it wind up? A communication center at the key US airbase in the Middle East was hit by Iranian ballistic missiles at the end. It's gonna be more intense and more violent.

1:39:47 And so Israel's preparing to drag the US back into another war with Donald Trump. I was about to say the US is building bases in Lebanon and Syria right now. What do you think those are for? Yeah, yeah. The US is building a base in Damascus. The whole point is war with Iran. But here's another thing that's happening in Congress. It's called the US-Israel Defense Partnership Act. And all the AIPAC tools in Congress are gonna sign on to this. And it will force us, the US taxpayer, to pay an additional $335 million to buy emerging technology and weapons on behalf of Israel. And that's why it's so important to see what's happening to Thomas Massie, one of the few members of Congress who's actually standing up against this. And what is happening? Trump is targeting him in his own rural district in Kentucky-

1:40:35 from Miriam Adelson, the Israeli warlord, and this is America first. This is disgusting. People on the left are against it, people on the right are against it. Absolutely. It's people come together. This is the ultimate symbol of insiders, outside power, special interests. It's become the, you know, I wish China was the main focus, but okay, Israel wants to do it. Here we are. But, but looking at this, what about the, the, the, the, the, you know, the Republican Congressman, uh, out of, uh, Randy fine out of, uh, Florida, all the rest of these guys literally saying we're gonna censor you, we're gonna control you and all this legislation they're passing that ends the First Amendment. The left spin the guys doing that, I'm totally against it, but now this, I mean, what about the whole censorship angle? And are you concerned about maybe a real crazy attacks at synagogue or something at stage? But I don't see Netanyahu wanting to lose this. So if I was him and he's Mr. False Flag,

1:41:31 heavily involved 9-11 right through. I smell a red, wave the red shirt event. Israel needs that. Yeah, I mean Randy Fine and all these characters are the biggest advocates of hate speech laws. Laws to define whatever they don't like as hate speech. And this is something you traditionally associated with the quote unquote woke left. Well now it's the neocon Likudnik right that's really actually getting real action on this. And you're right to bring up the specter of false flags, as well as manufactured anti-Semitism in order to create hysteria, in order to lock down the public speech. And our ability to organize according to the First Amendment in New York will be ground zero. They're freaked out about Zoran Mamdani, they want to discredit him. There's so many ways they could approach that. The recent,

1:42:30 spray painting of swastikas on a synagogue in Brooklyn. We don't know who did it, but it's very suspicious. And I think everyone needs to look at what's happening with a skeptical eye, including the Michigan terror plot that Kash Patel claimed to have busted when they didn't even know what the plot was. It's just like the Whitmer kidnapping. So final point, I keep holding you, but Yeah, I mean, we will be that's the last the Whitner kidnapping plot. It was an FBI manufactured plot. So be skeptical. Don't be psyoped into submission. This is about the people against the 1% and it goes beyond parties and we know what the problem is here. And it's great to see people, young people who are in the America first movement who are on the right finally waking up

1:43:19 to what the problem is. Mondami 9-11, I hadn't even thought of that. Oh, if I was the Likudniks and their branch in our government, the Defense Department, that's just as bad as Israel wanting wars. Ooh, a new 9-11 to blame on Mondami, and I'm on the Mondami defender, but that makes perfect sense, Max.

1:43:54 Yeah, I mean Trevor Aronson, the terror researcher wrote a book called The Terror Factory showing that over 90% of the so-called ISIS and Al Qaeda plots in the United States during the Obama era were cooked up by the FBI. Just look up what happened in Garland, Texas. Watch the 60 Minutes report on that. The FBI actually followed the shooters to the site of the shooting and made sure that they did it. So we need to be prepared for that as well. And I think people are not trusting the official story. They know that if Trump attacks Venezuela, it's on the basis of lies. They know that the cartel that Nicolas Maduro is said to be in charge of, Cartel of the Sons, was actually created by the CIA in the early 90s in order to ship drugs

1:44:41 into the United States on behalf of the DEA. There was a 60 Minutes report on that as well. They know the WMD stuff and the false flag stuff, it's not gonna work anymore. And so we're seeing more and more desperation as everybody on the left and the right realizes that the enemy isn't the guy in the bar room. It's the guy in the corporate boardroom who exists in an air conditioned office behind closed doors, unaccountable to the public. firing off emails to Jeffrey Epstein asking him for dating advice. Wow, impressive. Max Blumenthal, thegrayzone.com. I must visit Max Blumenthal on X. Thank you so much. Thanks a lot, Alex. Man, everything he said is true. That's what I love about him. He's really smart. He's informed. He just calls balls and strikes. I am extremely upset. This is a total disaster. I told you a month ago Trump's losing support in his base because I got my finger on the pulse. I don't need to see polls.

CHAPTER 19 / 39 Discussion

Netanyahu, Ben Shapiro, and the Jewish Community

Alex Jones addresses the Jewish community, asking if they want to be "stuck in the middle" of the current geopolitical crisis created by leaders like Netanyahu. He reiterates his desire for peace and security while criticizing the "one-trick pony" approach of the Israel lobby. Jones claims the White House is watching the broadcast and urges a correction in policy.

netanyahu· ben shapiro· mark levin· israel· peace

1:45:41 But the polls show it. And then for my listeners that get pissed at me and say you're being a killjoy, no I'm not. I understand that, here's the deal, Israel's not going anywhere. I don't wanna blow up Israel. The young Turks say they want war with them. I meant to get that clip to the crew from two days ago. That's where this goes. And the worse Israel acts, the more those people get energized. And they are as happy as a pig, and you know what right now? People can say, well, why do you want Israel to exist? I'm not against Israel. It's done a lot of bad things to expand. It's done. They got nuclear weapons. They ain't going nowhere. They're not going anywhere and you're gonna end up causing a conflagration. And I see the Israel lobby rushing in, doing everything you do to make this as bad as possible. And then I guess Netanyahu and Ben Shapiro and

1:46:52 Mark Levin get to be the heroes for their group and all of this while you're exacerbating and supercharging all of it. I want peace and security and stability in the future. The world is so dangerous. We've got so many problems. And I have really tried to get people to focus on all the other big issues because those are big issues. There's plenty of people that just spent all day on Israel. I am forced now to spend half the show on Israel because I'm trying to get our government and the Israeli government to correct what they're doing. So it may feel good for Mark Levin to beat his chest and put these threats out and that idiot Josh Hammer. And it must feel good to just be a one trick pony and have one issue and you don't have to worry about anything else. You just do whatever you think and you're right. You can cause all the problems, make all the threats and censor people and all this crap. And then you don't think about any of the repercussions. I mean, there are a lot of people in my life that

1:48:00 It was just people I've known that a society totally collapsed and road warrior was no more whatever and they, you know, I for an eye that, you know, I saw him on the street, they'd have a problem. But I got to think about what would happen if I did the thing I want to do. I can't do that. Plus, they're not even worth it. But it just must feel good to be Mark Levin sitting up there saying he's got the biggest audience when he's not even the top 20. I mean, I've been number one English speaker in the world, not just news. I've been number one. I'm in the top five. But it's not like some, it's a responsibility. I'm actually glad I'm not number one now. But then I gotta see somebody that's never won the ND 500. It'd be like if you never won a Super Bowl ring and I've won like five of them, and you're talking about how he's the best football player. I'm like, dude, you ain't got a Super Bowl ring. I got five. It's like some guy that never even made the NBA telling me he's Michael Jordan. I'm just like, dude, shut up. You are pathetic. Sounds like a little kid. You got the biggest show. It's just like, what? You sound like, you know,

1:49:10 10 year olds in the boys bathroom showing each other their dicks. I mean, it's just like, dude, think a little more about what you do, you schmuck. Seriously, man. God help us. Oh boy. There's still time to get out of this. But we've got to make as much noise and get as upset as we can believe the White House is watching right now. And there's a lot of people agree with us there. And we got to stop being afraid of Netanyahu. And we got to just tell it like it is.

CHAPTER 20 / 39 Discussion

Trump's Economic Record and Epstein Hoax Claims

Roger Stone joins the show to defend Donald Trump's record on the economy and border security. Stone characterizes the allegations of Trump's involvement with Epstein as a "hoax," noting that Epstein was barred from Trump properties in 2004. He points out that prominent Democrats like Chuck Schumer and Bill Clinton had much closer ties to Epstein and his associates.

donald trump· jeffrey epstein· roger stone· chuck schumer· bill clinton

1:54:52 That's really great to hear. I will put money on it. Like I said, I used to get it. I used to have to pay what $10,000 a week to get it in my arm and sit there for six hours a day to get it pumped in my system. And now I can take two pills or drink it once a day and pay what? I don't know, $30, $40 a bottle of it. Depends on what the sale is, yeah. And it's helping me to have a quality of life that I didn't have before that I have now. And I gotta tell you, what a blessing. I don't care what anybody says. I know what it's like with it and I know what it's like without it. Well, thank you. And me having it.

1:55:28 Thank you for sharing your story and thank you for helping your family too because you know sometimes people they don't want to tell their family they don't want to say anything because then oh you're supposed to mind your own business and not tell people about health that's a doctor's job you know but no it is our job to to tell our families hey this is what I found out this is what I found that works why don't you try it? President Trump will put how many days in office up on screen has done superlative work securing the republic getting jobs back getting out of the carbon taxes, shutting down the human trafficking, C-minus on finding the kids that's been happening with their minors so it's not allowed to be on the news but it's just big. They're going for hours the great things but

1:56:26 The coming in and covering up Epstein or looking like he is when he's not in there and all the nothing burgers that we predicted will get into with Roger Stone. He's the expert, wrote books on it when I was vetting Trump, interviewing him 10 years ago. And then the appearance of mindless support of Israel. And then the neocons come in trying to bully Tucker Carlson and everybody else. And say they're gonna be platformers to Cash Patel suing MAGA people for literally nothing. And then it coming out that Cash Patel, and I was told this by people in the meeting, Back in late September, say we're not looking at any accomplices, foreign or domestic, even though there's six trainees saying, Kirk will be dead tomorrow. All of that makes Trump look like he's the establishment. I know in Trump's mind, he's like, I got trying to stop World War III, I'm trying to get factories back. I don't have time to deal with this. It's Jeffrey Epstein's a hoax. Remember when you corrected it, you mean you being involved as a hoax. And everything they've released is old stuff, blacking out the names. The names weren't blacked out before. We'll explain this.

1:57:31 But Mark Mitchell is a great pollster, but I see it on the street and I see it online. Trump six months ago was riding high, highest poll rating ever. Now it's in trouble. We need him. And by sitting here sycophantically, going along with all this, we're going to destroy this recovery and the West. So I wanna get into all the details. Obviously defensive Trump, I've already done it. There's nothing there. The point is, is other than that, how do we influence Trump? Because now we know the DOJ and Todd Blanch, not just killing investigations into me and making mean comments about me. He's friends, he doesn't deserve any help. That's emblematic of all this and people see it. And so it's an optics issue overall. Roger, we're two minutes to break, but just give me a prelude, stonezone.com on where you describe where we are. I think there's really a battle going on between the Republican donor class

1:58:32 and the consultant class and the 99% as Max Blumenthal said of his base. I think the base wants to hear he's like I'm helping internationally. Why do you care about international because it affects the series. Totally right. But it's the optics. I think he needs to stroke the cat, stroke the dog. Tell it. Am I wrong here? We only got a minute to break. Roger. Alex, anybody who underestimates Donald Trump does so at their own peril. This is a president that has closed our southern border, which was completely porous, who has undertaken the greatest single deportation of illegal immigrants in US history, dangerous illegal immigrants.

1:59:12 This is a president who gave us the largest tax cut in American history. No, he's not perfect. We never said he was perfect. And yes, we might need some course corrections in various areas. But overall, stop and think just for a moment. Where would we be if Kamala Harris were president right now? In total hell. So, look, this Epstein thing just aggravates the hell out of me because I've researched it. I've probably written more about it than anyone alive. And it is a hoax. The idea that Donald Trump has some untoward or inappropriate relationship with Jeffrey Epstein or that he spent Thanksgiving of 2017 while he was president of the United States

1:59:57 with Epstein is absurd. They've cherry picked these emails in a massive way. Hold on, let's come back and describe it. You're absolutely right. Let's come back. Front and center, the Democrat party mouthpiece, drugsreport.com, tells you everything you need to know. And I predicted this the last 10 months with the mishandling of the Epstein stuff PR-wise by the Trump administration. Dark days of the dawn. And then they go into all this Garbage. Now Trump asked DOJ to probe Jeffrey Epstein dealings with Clinton and JP Morgan. Because they're the ones all implicated. Well then, why has Trump then just said it's a hoax? He means them saying he's involved as a hoax. So this is good. Go after them. Use it. That's what I said. People don't want this to go away.

CHAPTER 21 / 39 Discussion

Glenn Beck, Mike Johnson, and the Streisand Effect

Jones and Stone discuss how the "deer in the headlights" handling of the Epstein and Crooks investigations by Bongino and Patel has created a "Streisand effect." They argue that the bureaucracy is setting Trump up by encouraging him to move on from these investigations. Stone asserts that the real criminals are the Democrats who frequented Epstein's island and ranch.

glenn beck· mike johnson· dan bongino· kash patel· fbi

2:00:44 Trump is losing his grip on MAGA. That's what Newsweek and all of them are saying. But here's Glenn Beck, brief flip over to Roger Stone, because I covered this yesterday and showed this, but Beck does a really good job here. And I've gone through the Steve Bannon stuff and this on Trump. It's all, oh, Steve Bannon met once. Yeah, for a TV interview. Steve Bannon sent him emails. Yeah, hey, let's get rid of the Federal Reserve head. Spamming people with, I get the same text. This is all the Democrats have. Now they don't want it released. Johnson says release it. It's stuff they got from the Epstein family. That's why Trump got pissed when he learned what all this was. Innuendo, recycled crap. And that's why I said don't just release everything. Instead the mistake was, and I don't know who told Bongino and Patel to do it, the deer in the headlights thing, you know, six, seven, eight months ago. And to say, oh no, he killed himself. And oh no, he didn't have any accomplices. And oh no, like, why? And now, oh, the pipe bomber, you know, is in a fed and they're trying to, and oh, Crooks acting alone. All this is unraveling. It's not Trump.

2:01:44 It is the bureaucracy. And Trump says, look, I got a country to run. But he said, okay, we'll go after Bill Clinton, Reid Hoffman, Larry Summers. Exactly. Do not protect them because they will lie about you. You have to destroy them. They're the ones at the island. They're the ones at Zorro Ranch, not you. So whoever convinced you to move on, we got bigger fish to fry, they're not gonna let you. They set you up. And I said months ago, I said when they double cross Trump, he's gonna call for frying them. The difference is does he have a DOJ that'll even do it? Cuz at every level, Todd Blanch has his foot not just on Ed Martin, he's not my only source. In fact, Ed only talked about my cases. I wanna be clear. I've got, I mean, we got Bernando Morello coming on the sources that there was all this data from Crooks and the FBI said there was none.

2:02:38 That's coming up. We'll get Roger Stone's take on this in a moment. But first, Glenn Beck knocks out of the park. Here it is. Why are they trying to cover up that Donald Trump had sex with children? I mean, it's as clear as day in the email. Let me read what Jeffrey Epstein wrote. I want you to realize that the dog who hasn't barked is Trump. Victim, redacted, spent hours at my house with him. He has never once been mentioned. New information just released. Or is it? Because in 2011, that was released and everybody knew it. It's been out floating around. Here's the change. I want you to realize the dog it has in bark is Trump. Virginia spent hours at my house with him. Why would you redact a name that is already out in the public square? Well, because it makes it all suddenly new and shiny. You see victim and you're like, oh, there's a victim that he was, who was the victim?

2:03:34 But when you know it's Virginia, you know this is already gone to court. She already testified about this. And I'm quoting, this is from the testimony. He didn't partake in any of this, any sex with any of it. It's true. This is not normal. New news if you remember when the shutdown first started What did the Democrats say the reason why they did the shutdown? Why Mike Johnson and everybody else wouldn't negotiate? Because the heat was on to release the Epstein files and they didn't want to have to do that So they shut the government down. So the government is open and

2:04:13 And what does Mike Johnson do yesterday? He said the House is going to vote on a bill to release all of the files related to Jeffrey Epstein next week. Good, Mike, release all of it. If anybody thinks that you're ever going to get the truth on this in the first place, it's madness. It was in the hands of the Democrats for the longest time. You don't think it was all picked through? And if there was anything about Donald Trump, you don't think that would have come up between 2020 and And 2024, there's nothing in there about Donald Trump. Did Trump go say from releasing, I know it's a whole bunch of suits and crap and bull and everything, I get it. It's not a case, it's not a file, it's a bunch of stuff. Why then move to the deer in the headlights and all the stuff that made everybody pique their interest and created the Streisand effect? And where do you see this going? Cuz I'm sure you know now the Democrats now don't wanna vote to release it. And Democrat judges wanna block it being released cuz we know who's in there, the Democrats.

CHAPTER 22 / 39 Discussion

Virginia Giuffre, Tom Cotton, and Declassification Authority

Roger Stone reports that Virginia Giuffre's sworn testimony cleared Donald Trump of any improper conduct. He warns about a legislative effort by Senator Tom Cotton to shift declassification authority from the Director of National Intelligence to the FBI and CIA. Stone argues this would give the "deep state" agencies the power to blackmail presidential appointees and hide their own corruption.

virginia giuffre· tom cotton· fbi· cia· michael flynn

2:05:12 Yeah, Alex, I think you sum this up. When the president said this is a hoax, he's not saying the fact that Jeffrey Epstein charged by the Trump Justice Department in 2019 on one count of child sex trafficking, on the second count of conspiring to engage in child sex trafficking is a hoax. What he's saying is that any involvement on his part is a hoax. Now, I personally interviewed Virginia Roberts to has said publicly that the only major public figure that would help her in her lawsuit against Jeffrey Epstein was Donald Trump. She says in her sworn testimony, not just there where Glenn Beck highlighted it, but elsewhere, that there was no evidence that she saw no improper conduct by Donald Trump. And we both- And all the other victims said the same thing.

2:06:18 And if one will simply go to the Federal Election Commission records, they will say it was Chuck Schumer who took giant contributions from Jeffrey Epstein. Whose protégé is Weiner with the Clintons and Uba Abedin. Precisely true. So again, let's go through the facts because they're important. Jeffrey Epstein was cut off by Donald Trump in late 2004. That was- And he told Wolf that and said that he dropped the dime on him, which you said a decade ago on my show because I was vetting Trump and had you on about it. Exactly true. So again, prior to his even being exposed in Florida,

2:07:00 Because Epstein makes an improper advance on Virginia Roberts Jafray, who's then underage and working in the spa part-time, he cuts Epstein off. Norma Federer, And Rona Graf, both assistants to Donald Trump, both of whom have become very good friends of mine, tell me that Epstein at the time, Epstein is barred from all Trump properties. Epstein is creepy. Those are her exact words. So these emails prove nothing. First of all, they've all been out there in some form or another. This is a hoax. Who really is guilty here? Who was on the island? Bill Clinton, Senate Majority Leader George Mitchell, Treasury Secretary Larry Summers, all Democrats. Go to the Federal Election Commission records. Who was taking big bucks from Epstein? Schumer, the Democrat Senatorial Committee. You won't find any money to Republicans and you won't find any Republicans on the island.

2:08:00 Seven, eight, nine year old children for John Podesta's entertainment are being liberated to a secretive house in the woods in northern New York for his entertainment and for Alistair Crowley time. So it's all over them. It's constant. There's never exactly. This is insane. So I said Trump 10 months ago when this all started. He has to damn the torpedoes and go after the Clintons, but he didn't. How good is it now that Trump says he wants the DOJ to go after them because he knows they're guilty as hell? This is what I advise, Roger. This is what I advise. What do you say?

2:08:37 Well, as you know, Alex, it was right here on your show that I recommended that the first step was for the president and his Justice Department, and they did this to move to release all of the grand jury testimony against Epstein in the 2019 indictment. And three Democrat judges blocked it. Right, both in Florida and New York. Yet the Democrats say that we're the ones standing in the way of full disclosure. Alex, one other important thing I want to say, and I just came back last night from Washington, D.C. And it was cold, let me tell you. It was so cold, the exhibitionists were describing themselves to people, to use an old joke. It was bitterly cold, but I went there, first of all, to honor General Michael Flynn, one of the greatest American patriots and leaders it has ever been my pleasure to know. He was honored at a veterans parade, Grand Marshal's dinner. It's one of the main reasons I went to Washington, to honor that great statesman, that great American.

2:09:39 But he and I were also there working on something very important that people don't know about. Senator Tom Cotton of Arkansas seeks to shift the declassification authority currently lodged in the office of the Director of National Intelligence over to the FBI and the CIA. Yes, you heard me right. He wants to give declassification authority to the two agencies that were up to their ass in the Russian collusion hoax. Now, there have been several iterations of his Senate plan to do this. And Congressman Crawford, who's the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, thank God, is resisting this. But whether it is a change in the structure that makes the deputy directors of the FBI and the CIA

2:10:26 subject to Senate confirmation. That's one way he seeks to do this. Or whether it is just the transformation or I should say the transfer of that authority to those two agencies. Senator Cotton is a deep stater. This is an extraordinarily dangerous move. that would take authority to declassify away from a presidential appointee and put it in the hands of the Senate, who could obviously blackmail any nominee over the release of vital information. This is an important fight that Americans need to be aware of, and they need to let their elected officials, their senators, their congressmen know that they are opposed to any move to make these changes.

CHAPTER 23 / 39 Discussion

Affordability, Federal Reserve, and Trump's Strategy

Stone advises Trump to focus on "affordability" and the economy to maintain his base, suggesting he replace the chairman of the Federal Reserve. They discuss the negative optics of Kash Patel suing MAGA supporters like Elijah Schaefer and Kyle Serafin. Stone urges Patel to drop the lawsuits and focus on the administration's broader mission.

affordability· federal reserve· kash patel· elijah schaefer· kyle serafin

2:11:12 Absolutely. So looking at the poll numbers though, regardless of what's right or wrong, the perceived Trump controlled by Israel thing is a hot issue. The neocon war, the never Trumpers against Tucker and others is really blown up. That's the issue. The young people that were in massive numbers in support of Trump is causing a major issue. How do you think Trump should handle that? Well, Alex, look, I hate to steal a line from James Carville, who I never had that high regard for, but it's still the economy stupid. So yes, food prices have come down. Yes, gas prices have come down, but food prices are still not as low as they were in the final year of Trump's

2:12:06 first I be repugnant, particularly when they're coming from people who were never MAGA, people who supported Ted Cruz for president. And then they supported Nikki Haley for president. Now they're trying to tell us that we're, you and I and people like us who were from Donald Trump from the very beginning, that we're not MAGA, people like Tucker Carlson. That is outrageous. I agree. And so we need, I'm telling you, five point boost just on this alone.

2:13:12 Trump is used to come out and say I support the First Amendment, I support Tucker Carlson. Because you have Cash Patel suing Elijah Schaefer, suing Kyle Serafin, and Serafin's on fourth hour. Serafin just covered news, people said maybe she's a Mossad honeypot. I don't see any evidence of that. He has a right to say people are covering it. It was a big news story. But then Schaefer didn't even say she was, he posted a picture of the two together. And then they sued him and said, his law firm, FBI guys, and said, well, you criticize Israel here, here, and here, there's a lawsuit, so you deserve this. This is next level. And they use political correct terms like microaggressions. People are freaking out because, don't have time to get the Epstein files out, but we got time

2:14:07 And it's kind of he's encouraging all these FBI agents to sue other people so and you got Todd Blanch up there so we're seeing more of the same lawfare. Killing Ed Martin, investigating my persecution in full wars, and then over here running around in lawfare. People are really pissed about this, and I want Cash Patel to succeed. I don't know if he's a good guy or a bad guy, but man, if he thinks suing people because they're making jokes about his girlfriend makes it go away, I'd like to explain how the media works to Cash. I mean, it's hard to believe he's that stupid. I don't think he is. What the hell is going on here? You're the FBI director. Your girlfriend's a popular country music singer. You're a public figure, dude. Grow some skin.

2:14:47 Yeah, if you and I had a dollar for everybody who's attacked us, and we have no recourse because we're both public figures. I would urge cash to focus on the mission at hand and drop these lawsuits if he asked for my advice. Look, I think he's a good man. I like him. I supported him for that job. I don't quite understand what's happening here. But there's a larger mission here. And I don't think the president is getting enough credit for taking on the globalists. I don't think he's getting enough credit for shutting down the border. I don't think he's getting enough credit for the efforts in places like Chicago and Washington, D.C. and elsewhere. Let me just stop you. I know you do dozens of interviews a day. You're a workhorse. Trump wouldn't be in power without you. Our audience knows the great things he's done. This is a major, this is really, on average, very informed people. I'm asking you, big picture,

2:15:41 What Trump can do PR wise to not let the leftist media focus on schisms and then make those distractions the bigger issues. I'm asking you strategy, if you were talking to Trump about better ways to energize his base. If you watched him in the last 24 hours, I think he used the key word, used it over and over again. It is affordability. He was smart to take on the head of the Federal Reserve. He was smart to try to fire the Federal Reserve officer who a board member who very clearly engaged in mortgage fraud that would have given him the votes for a deeper cut in interest rates. The American people will end up voting on the economy and their own pocketbook. Now he has an incredible- I agree with you that he got inflation down on energy big

CHAPTER 24 / 39 Discussion

Beef Shortages, Sebastian Gorka, and Venezuela

The discussion covers the US beef shortage caused by environmental policies and the potential for importing beef from Argentina. Stone criticizes the influence of Sebastian Gorka on Trump's foreign policy, specifically regarding the "optically terrible" hosting of Syrian figures. They debate the merits of a military intervention in Venezuela to remove the Marxist Maduro regime.

beef· argentina· sebastian gorka· venezuela· nicolas maduro

2:16:29 But other stuff overhang, inflation slowed 85% or so compared to almost 90%. So but still it's super high. I get it, you don't turn the ship around quickly. So maybe he needs to explain that, cuz stuff like I'll turn it around the first week, I'll end the Russia war. We get it, it's campaign stuff. But exactly, it is the money issue. There's no question about that. Look, his record as a peacemaker is extraordinary. I've said publicly, I say it yet again, that the head of the Venezuelan resistance, who I think is a good woman and a freedom fighter, she should accept the Nobel Peace Prize and she should immediately send it to Donald Trump, the guy who actually earned it and deserves it. But the American people have a long history of not voting

2:17:17 on foreign policy issues, the Vietnam War being the only exception to that. So despite the fact that he's made peace, that he's ended eight international conflicts, and he will end the conflict between Russia and Ukraine before long, I have no doubt of that, the American people will still vote their pocketbooks in the final analysis And that's where the focus has to be. That's where people are still hurting. And they don't recognize that things are down. They are better, there's no question. But they're not as good as they're going to get. He needs to stick to his domestic agenda. He needs to replace this chairman at the Federal Reserve as soon as he possibly can. And he needs a deep cut in interest rates. No, I totally agree. And we've got to remind the voters and everybody, where would you be with Kamala?

2:18:05 Stop being babies. Everything Trump's doing, I can spend hours a day just, every issue I look at, it's exactly what I would do, talking to economists, things I know the inside of baseball on, like ranching. Since the 90s, Clinton created, helped them create a oligopoly with four meat packers that are screwing everybody, and then the Democrats blame ranchers. They're going bankrupt. And Trump's literally going in and shutting that down. It's like each little point is the exact thing to help the people. So I know how great he is. That's why I get pissed when on the messaging, because I understand the messages on Israel is a side issue, but if his constituents want it, he's got to give them what they want. Well, let's be very clear, though. We have a beef shortage in this country because of the radical environmental policies of Joe Biden.

2:18:53 And I understand that the cattlemen are unhappy that he's increased the quota of beef from Argentina, where we have a pro-freedom ally as the president. But if you wanted to get more beef in the United States, it simply doesn't exist. The herd sizes are down. They don't get real business. The way to undercut the meatpackers is to bring it out of other countries in the stopgap and then break up that monopoly. I know the beef business. What Trump's doing is the exact right thing. But people just don't, they're not, I'm not being mean to listeners. I mean, somebody might be a brain surgeon. I don't know how to do that. But I do know about the beef issue because we've dealt with it on a lot of top ranchers in the country. Absolutely. In the interim to buy beef from our allies that aren't putting tariffs on us is totally reasonable, lower prices. But that's only a stopgap.

2:19:40 He needs to get the regulators off of, the problem is you gotta scale up, it'll take years. Cuz you can't even set up a major meatpacking operation cuz in the past, the Democrats owned the inspectors, Roger, they would come shut you down. You have one violation, if you're not the big four, you're shut down. Big four can be as dirty as they want, that's the problem. That's the artificial bottleneck. That's why they make the majority of the money and they're the reason beef costs so much. Same thing with chicken and Tyson. Also true that we because of this screwworm epidemic in southern and central Mexico, Mexico which used to supply quite a bit of our high quality beef is kind of off limits. Now there is still quality beef being produced in northern Mexico and if there is a way to test that and prove its purity, it could be brought back into our markets but

2:20:29 Alex, think if you or I went out, we couldn't get a big juicy steak. I mean, good God, I can't think of anything worse. There's only one thing better than a good piece of ass and that's probably a ribeye. I'm sorry to be bad folks. It's just, I mean, like I literally sit there like what's better, pussy or steak? It's a hard choice, Roger. Which one do you like the best? Alex, you know what? This is a hard week in Washington, DC. I got to say this. You don't pay me to say it. You didn't urge me to say it. You didn't tell me to say it. This methylene blue stuff is great in terms of your energy level, your focus, your mental balance. This is the greatest product you have ever produced. I'm glad you turned me on to it. I saw the video of RFK dropping it in water and drinking it. That made me inquisitive. Then you send me some of the very best. This is pharmaceutical grade. This stuff rocks.

2:21:19 Again, you didn't tell me to say this, you didn't ask me to say it, you didn't prompt me to say it. I'm saying it because it's true. People are nuts and I apologize, Family Show, I'm being bad. Roger, we got a little bit of time left with you. When we come back, what are the other big issues we should hit? Look, Alex, I think that I too am disappointed by the fact that we're hosting this guy from Syria. I do really do not understand this. This is this is I think the president's foreign policy- Optically terrible. Oh, yeah. I mean, you were virtually weeping about it online and you should have been. I just do not understand this. I just don't understand it. When I make inquiries, I'm told that this is the brainchild of Sebastian Gorka. I don't know if that's true. But I've heard it. And I think it is a horrific idea. Oh my God, the gay whale is involved? That's what I hear. The man has the fakest voice on planet Earth.

CHAPTER 25 / 39 Discussion

Venezuela Intervention, Japan's New Government, and China

Roger Stone applauds the hard line taken by Marco Rubio and Trump against communism in the Western Hemisphere, specifically targeting Maduro's regime in Venezuela. They discuss a "surprise coup" in the Japanese parliament that resulted in a pro-Trump, anti-communist government. Stone highlights the strategic importance of Japan in countering Chinese influence and securing rare earth minerals.

venezuela· nicolas maduro· japan· china· marco rubio

2:25:16 But to be black pill and say we're all doomed, that's not a good thing. But I think it's very healthy to criticize the problems that we see and we see a lot of times, most of the time response from Trump. And I've had mixed feelings on this. I don't like Maduro, he's a communist dictator. The Democrats have used him as a piggy bank for election fraud. That's the real reason to go in there. But I don't trust the CIA that's been giving intelligence to the Pentagon. Trump's had him there for months. To launch this operation, they're saying is days away. They're giving Trump options. Now, are they saying this to make Maduro leave? Cuz he says he's ready to leave. Hopefully that's the case. Hopefully it's all a bunch of saber rattling. But the country's bigger than Texas and it's got all sorts of mountains, you name it. And Colombia says it'll come into the war

2:26:12 And I get it's in our hemisphere, so I get academically that Trump has the right. Thomas Jefferson would have already gone in there, like the Barbary Wars, but... I still have big concerns. So Pentagon briefs Trump on military options against Venezuela over coming days. Roger, what's your take on this and inside baseball? I mean, to me, this doesn't look like just bluffing with all these three carrier strike force groups and all the Marines and army brought in this. This this looks pretty serious. Maduro said to America, let's have peace and all the rest of this. What do you think is about to happen? Alex, look, God knows I'm no neocon, but we cannot put up with encroaching communism in this hemisphere. Situation in Honduras is particularly vexing. The Biden Justice Department essentially framed the pro-US, pro-Trump president of Honduras, Hernandez. They framed him for drug trafficking. It was a joke. Those who testified him were convicted drug traffickers who were

2:27:12 were let out of prison in return for their false testimony. And today, Honduras is basically a staging ground for the Marxist narco trafficking of the Venezuelans. So it's not just Venezuela, it's not just Cuba, which continues to be a vexing problem and a major spy center. And it's Venezuela that props up Cuba. And the Chinese who prop them all up. I mean, right now, China is a- So this is really about a move on China? Yeah, absolutely. I think it's, again, my good friend General Flynn, who I would definitely bow to on any matter having to do with military or intelligence.

2:27:54 has pointed out that Cuba is being used as a major and very sophisticated spy center by the communist Chinese. And that there are missiles on the surface of Cuba that may technically be defensive missiles, but with an hour of technical touch up can become offensive. Yeah, retrofitted to deliver nuclear weapons. So Cuban Missile Crisis 2.0. Absolutely, and therefore I kind of applaud Marco Rubio and President Trump for the hard line they're taking against communism in this hemisphere. Maduro has to go. This guy is a Marxist narco-trafficker. I don't know, what about the trap? What about the CIA doing a Bay of Pigs and setting up the military?

2:28:38 Look, I don't think Trump's gonna fall for that. He understands overwhelming force. And if we're going in, we will go in with full force and we'll be successful. From what I understand, at this point, Maduro is constantly looking at the sky, waiting to be hit by a drone, worried about being hit by a drone, because that's kind of mentally where- Well, he said three days ago he's ready to leave if a deal can be made to Europe or to Russia. Maybe this will happen, but then who gets put in? Obviously an election. Yes, and I think there'll be a fight over that. I mean, you presume you have some transition government. There's some people who do not want the, what's her name, Machado, the head of the resistance to be involved. I think she can rightfully claim that she was elected. She should certainly be part of any transition government. Of course, you have Chevron, very worried about their oil leases there.

2:29:37 And I think that may be interfering with foreign policy here. So I applaud the hard line in this hemisphere. I'm not looking for some endless foreign war, which we get into a long protracted struggle. But if we have to take out Maduro, I think we should do so. Yeah, well, let's be clear. This is not neocon stuff. This is realism. But look at this. Here's an example. This is not in our hemisphere. And we all heard this but it happened. South Korea has fallen to pro-China, pro-North Korean communists. The president says if you criticize communists, the Chinese or anybody, you'll be put in prison for five years. So this is an example. Communism is on the move. This is no game.

2:30:15 Well, I think maybe people maybe missed this, but there was an incredible, essentially a surprise coup within the Japanese parliament, which the conservative party teamed with a smaller libertarian party to overturn the left leaning and Chinese communist infiltrated Japanese government and elect a new pro-Trump, pro-America, anti-illegal immigration. So the good news is Trump and Tulsi Gabbard and others are moving behind the scenes to counter this. I think that's exactly right. Just this past week, the Chinese communists threatened to cut off the head of the new woman Prime Minister of Japan because she's pro-freedom, because she's pro-US, and because she's on to their infiltration. By the way, is that the first female Prime Minister of Japan? It is indeed.

2:31:09 It is indeed. She's amazing. Yeah, so I know everybody wants to obsess over Israel. Don't worry, we did two hours on it. There's other things going on, isn't there, Roger? Well, this is a great democratic small development in Japan. This is a game changer. Japan is very rich with rights to rare earth minerals, which the Chinese have designs on. They're very rich when it comes to gold. And now you have a pro-US, pro-Trump, anti-illegal immigration, anti-globalist government in Japan. Well, they're also some of the smartest people in the world and probably the hardest working.

CHAPTER 26 / 39 Discussion

Thomas Crooks, FBI Metadata, and Michael Baden

Jones and Stone discuss Tucker Carlson's new documentary on Thomas Crooks, which alleges the FBI covered up the shooter's digital footprint. They reference Dr. Michael Baden's findings that Jeffrey Epstein's death was inconsistent with suicide. Stone expresses skepticism about the official narrative that Crooks acted alone in the attempted assassination of Donald Trump.

thomas crooks· fbi· tucker carlson· michael baden· jeffrey epstein

2:31:46 So it's good to have him on the team. This is an important breakthrough in Asia and a huge setback for the communist Chinese. All right, in closing. I don't know if you follow this yet, but we already knew this. It takes hours to get into it. We know Crooks was just a cover guy. He did fire shots, was another shooter. By the grace of God, Trump lived. We know there was metadata. We know it got covered up. We have Bongino and Cash Patel and all them saying there's no data. Now we have whistleblowers, people that got into the files that got it. It's all gonna come out that indeed. So we knew the Democrats and the corrupt director of the Secret Service, the deputy director covered it up and stood down. We knew the FBI threatened investigators that went to look into it with Jack Posobiec. Now we have a task force being set up by the FBI to counter Tucker on his movie, which will just make the movie 10 times bigger.

2:32:42 a real rocket scientist. I'm not trying to tell you how to cover up, just geez. Tucker Carlson knew who is Thomas Crooks, many documentary has the FBI creating a rapid response force going completely ape. Trump said, I wanna know what happened here. What happened here? Cuz it's been confirmed. Cash had no looking at any accomplices with Charlie Kirk's murder. He had all these people bragging they'll be dead tomorrow. Then you got this going on. I'm sorry, Roger, this is not good. No, it's evocative of Dallas, Texas in November 22nd in 1963. Smells very, very much like it. I'm sorry, but I don't believe that Thomas Matthew Crooks acted alone. I'm not even sure that he's the actual shooter. It's impossible for me to believe he had no accomplices. The FBI told us that they can't unencrypt his phone. I'm sorry.

2:33:40 The most basic IT guys say that's an impossibility. So I haven't seen Tucker's movie obviously yet, but Tucker Carlson remains the epic truth teller of our time, fearless and out there on the cutting edge of just telling the simple truth. I'm very anxious to see this because it smells just like Dallas to me. Well, that's right. And you know, every time Apple gets asked to encrypt thing, it's a PR thing. The FBI does like unencrypted or, or, or droid and they go, sorry, we won't. And it's all a kabuki dance. All this stuff goes over servers. It's all stored. And they also have backdoors and all the apps. And I know FBI forensic agents, you name it. And I've known this forever. I'm not a tech guy. I just know what they tell me. The FBI can break into any device in five minutes.

2:34:30 The CIA can do it even quicker and the NSA because it's all been stored. Again, people think, oh, there's encryption. It gets unencrypted when it hits the servers at the cloud. Nothing you've done is secret, boys and girls. You think you deleted when you went to Pornhub? It's all in the record. Every email, everything, it's all recorded. So this, this, oh, you know, Bongino and them, oh yeah, there's no internet activity. And now we have people that have gotten into the court cases in the middle of it. They say now it's there and they're trying to tell us this.

2:35:08 Why would and I get it Bongino them and over their head. I've got 50 employees. I can't imagine having 50,000 but just to take what their underlings are taking them and just say oh no Member of them 10 months ago during the headlines Epstein killed himself crooks acted alone Like no one's buying that Roger Yeah, look, I mean, as you know, Michael Baden, probably the most respected New York medical examiner in history, one of the most respected pathologists in the country, was hired by Epstein's family to inspect the body and said that the fractures in various bones in his neck were completely inconsistent with him hanging himself.

2:35:48 But Baden who did the autopsy in over 1,000 hanging cases says there's no way that Epstein killed himself. Yet we're just expected to believe otherwise. It's vexing to say the least. Do you have any idea why? Because if they're gonna cover it up, okay, I'm not defending it, but why come out and then Streisand affected? Is Bongino and Patel retarded? Look, I like both of them and I'm confused by it. I really is. I read Kash Patel's book, Government Gangsters. Terrific book. Knows exactly who the bad guys are and how they conduct themselves.

CHAPTER 27 / 39 Discussion

Brianna Morello, Thomas Crooks Social Media, and Antifa

Investigative journalist Brianna Morello reports that Thomas Crooks had a significant social media footprint, including Snapchat and YouTube, which the FBI allegedly ignored. The data suggests Crooks transitioned from a Trump supporter to a radical leftist who threatened political officials. Morello's source claims the FBI was given this information but refused to use it in their investigation.

brianna morello· thomas crooks· fbi· snapchat· antifa

2:36:24 I am vexed by the whole thing. I'm not gonna denounce any member of the administration, because I don't think that's beneficial. But it's not adding up to me. The whole Crooks thing does not add up to me. The Charlie Kirk thing- Yeah, well, I just wanna be clear. I want them to succeed too. You think they wanted to put us in prison before? If they get kicked out, we're screwed. I'm trying to get the lifeboat I'm in to not poke holes in itself. I'm with you on that. Stonezone.com, Roger Stone, incredible job. Thank you so much, my friend. Thank you, Alex. God bless you. Amazing. All right. So in the last 48 hours, Thomas Massey releases the messages and letters, whistleblower being targeted for exposing the pipe bomber, Portland Capital Police, now CIA, and major damage control there. Then you've got it being released. The FBI creates today or yesterday a rapid response account to respond to Tucker Carlson

2:37:23 Saying they're claiming there's no metadata on this guy Thomas Crooks the main shooter Patsy in the tip of assassination in Pennsylvania on July 13th 2024 and then Brianna Morello who is not as a great talk show host weekday mornings 8am to 11am and not just a Pentagon reporter on her own side. She's got a lot of great sources. I've seen the information. She's getting the lawyer on for it. He can come on today. We don't have time. He's gonna come on Monday. Who's gone through all this. Here's what she posted on X.

2:38:02 And now the report's out. Incoming report, I've been provided with intel to review regarding Thomas Crooks and his social media. My source says the FBI was given every opportunity to use information but did nothing. I've reached out to the FBI for comment. We're gonna get to it now. Here's the report. Intel report Thomas Crooks alleged social media dump. And now we're seeing it come out. So they told us there was no history, no nothing. His house all scrubbed, no utensils, any of this. Both parents behavioral psychologists, it gets weirder and weirder. And then now this is coming out. So Brianna Morello, thank you so much for joining us. Explain to us exactly what's happening. Hi Alex, thanks for having me of course. Well, we're learning a lot about the social media footprint that wasn't supposed to exist but somehow now does exist.

2:38:50 Just so your audience knows, we actually received this information, the same information that Tucker's been given. We've got a little bit more, it looks like, so we're sifting through it. But this is what we've learned so far. Again, they told us there was nothing really out there, but we're finding a Snapchat, the emoji that he was using to do that. And then also we've got a well outlined timeline of his YouTube comments, and his YouTube comments are very interesting. They go from, he's obviously a Trump supporter, and then they transition into someone who is going along with the COVID pandemic lies in the narrative. And then he goes after those who use the term deep states. And then he goes after anyone who is against mail-in ballots. And so he made quite the interesting- So this is a hyper leftist?

2:39:39 This went from someone who was originally against Ilhan Omar, the squad threatening to kill them, to all of a sudden, yes, a leftist. The transition itself doesn't make any sense and you can't really tell us why all of a sudden his political view shifted. If you just look at the timeline though, it drastically changed right at the beginning of the pandemic. And that's when his views start to shift. He was very anti-immigration. He even said, issued death threats to those he viewed as socialist Jews and threatened to kill them. He threatens to kill Ilhan Omar and send her body back to Somalia. He also threatens to kill other members of the squad as well, illegal aliens, Hispanics. Or whoever, remember we first heard with no evidence, it might be a Trump supporter.

2:40:21 Whoever was controlling the account was creating these breadcrumbs. The issue here for me is that the FBI claimed there was none of this social history and testified to that pre-Trump and then now with Trump. To me, the issue is how are they claiming that they had no information and now we know this was out there? Yeah, that's the concerning part cuz YouTube took down his page on the 14th, the day after the shooting. They took down his page and they said it was due to violence. That was their reasoning behind taking down that page. So although the FBI answered to Tucker Carlson saying that, well, how do you know that this is all authentic and this is him? The reality is, is how do they know? I mean, they were the ones who have had this. Now, according to my source too, they tried their very best to give this over to the FBI, but the FBI won no part in this.

2:41:08 They didn't even look into the information is from what I'm being told. So I've reached out to the FBI for comments. I did give them a hard deadline though. They're supposed to respond back within 50 minutes ago, it looks like. So they haven't yet issued that response. I'm waiting to hear back from them as to why they didn't take this in when this was handed to them. Well, sure, there's no doubt they already had it then, so. That's not good. And then we've got cash for telling on Gino eight, nine months ago on Fox saying crooks act alone. Just trust us. We can all watch the other shot come over from a different and hit all the bags and clothes and hit people and all the witnesses. And we, I mean, we, the whole story wasn't true show. I mean, wow. How did, to me, it's like, why, why is the FBI joining in on this now? Yeah, we don't know. We don't know. And just think of some backgrounds who

CHAPTER 28 / 39 Discussion

Thomas Crooks Radicalization and FBI Transparency

Brianna Morello discusses evidence that Thomas Crooks may have been radicalized online by a foreign Antifa organization. She criticizes Kash Patel and the FBI for a lack of transparency regarding the investigation. Morello suggests that the withholding of Crooks' social media posts was intentional to prevent the public from understanding his true motivations.

thomas crooks· fbi· antifa· kash patel· charlie kirk

2:37:23 Saying they're claiming there's no metadata on this guy Thomas Crooks the main shooter Patsy in the tip of assassination in Pennsylvania on July 13th 2024 and then Brianna Morello who is not as a great talk show host weekday mornings 8am to 11am and not just a Pentagon reporter on her own side. She's got a lot of great sources. I've seen the information. She's getting the lawyer on for it. He can come on today. We don't have time. He's gonna come on Monday. Who's gone through all this. Here's what she posted on X.

2:38:02 And now the report's out. Incoming report, I've been provided with intel to review regarding Thomas Crooks and his social media. My source says the FBI was given every opportunity to use information but did nothing. I've reached out to the FBI for comment. We're gonna get to it now. Here's the report. Intel report Thomas Crooks alleged social media dump. And now we're seeing it come out. So they told us there was no history, no nothing. His house all scrubbed, no utensils, any of this. Both parents behavioral psychologists, it gets weirder and weirder. And then now this is coming out. So Brianna Morello, thank you so much for joining us. Explain to us exactly what's happening. Hi Alex, thanks for having me of course. Well, we're learning a lot about the social media footprint that wasn't supposed to exist but somehow now does exist.

2:38:50 Just so your audience knows, we actually received this information, the same information that Tucker's been given. We've got a little bit more, it looks like, so we're sifting through it. But this is what we've learned so far. Again, they told us there was nothing really out there, but we're finding a Snapchat, the emoji that he was using to do that. And then also we've got a well outlined timeline of his YouTube comments, and his YouTube comments are very interesting. They go from, he's obviously a Trump supporter, and then they transition into someone who is going along with the COVID pandemic lies in the narrative. And then he goes after those who use the term deep states. And then he goes after anyone who is against mail-in ballots. And so he made quite the interesting- So this is a hyper leftist?

2:39:39 This went from someone who was originally against Ilhan Omar, the squad threatening to kill them, to all of a sudden, yes, a leftist. The transition itself doesn't make any sense and you can't really tell us why all of a sudden his political view shifted. If you just look at the timeline though, it drastically changed right at the beginning of the pandemic. And that's when his views start to shift. He was very anti-immigration. He even said, issued death threats to those he viewed as socialist Jews and threatened to kill them. He threatens to kill Ilhan Omar and send her body back to Somalia. He also threatens to kill other members of the squad as well, illegal aliens, Hispanics. Or whoever, remember we first heard with no evidence, it might be a Trump supporter.

2:40:21 Whoever was controlling the account was creating these breadcrumbs. The issue here for me is that the FBI claimed there was none of this social history and testified to that pre-Trump and then now with Trump. To me, the issue is how are they claiming that they had no information and now we know this was out there? Yeah, that's the concerning part cuz YouTube took down his page on the 14th, the day after the shooting. They took down his page and they said it was due to violence. That was their reasoning behind taking down that page. So although the FBI answered to Tucker Carlson saying that, well, how do you know that this is all authentic and this is him? The reality is, is how do they know? I mean, they were the ones who have had this. Now, according to my source too, they tried their very best to give this over to the FBI, but the FBI won no part in this.

2:41:08 They didn't even look into the information is from what I'm being told. So I've reached out to the FBI for comments. I did give them a hard deadline though. They're supposed to respond back within 50 minutes ago, it looks like. So they haven't yet issued that response. I'm waiting to hear back from them as to why they didn't take this in when this was handed to them. Well, sure, there's no doubt they already had it then, so. That's not good. And then we've got cash for telling on Gino eight, nine months ago on Fox saying crooks act alone. Just trust us. We can all watch the other shot come over from a different and hit all the bags and clothes and hit people and all the witnesses. And we, I mean, we, the whole story wasn't true show. I mean, wow. How did, to me, it's like, why, why is the FBI joining in on this now? Yeah, we don't know. We don't know. And just think of some backgrounds who

2:41:57 I knew Dan Bongino before he went into his position, and he was someone who obviously went into this role with the best intentions. But due to people I've spoken to over at the FBI, there's a lot of people around them trying to sandbag them. And so I can't tell if they are just being given bad information at this point. And it's just a bunch of people who are trying to discredit them publicly. So I'll give them that ounce of grace for right now, but they haven't really responded on this front. Last night, they also took the time to begin the launch of their FBI rapid response Twitter accounts to go after those who do push back against them. So one could only assume that there's probably something there that they're trying to just push that narrative that they currently have. But they don't respond when you request for comment on most of these instances. I mean, obviously, I told you before, I've asked them for responses on other previous topics and you don't really get much in the way of substance back from them.

2:42:45 And it's also important to note too, I know Tucker outlined this and we put it up over on independentnewsroom.com. That's where I allow anyone to view this information for free. You could go over there right now, because there's one of the YouTube comments by an individual whose username is Willie Teps. And when you trace it back, I know the individual who handed this over to us also trace this back. It looks like it belongs to an individual who might be affiliated with an Antifa group, a foreign Antifa group. It's the Nordic Resistance Movement. They are actually listed on the State Department's website as well as being a known terror organization. They were communicating back and forth with this individual. So-. Well, that's where I was gonna go next. We heard at first there were foreign connections.

2:43:27 Now we're told by Bongino Patel, no, look at nothing. Yeah, this is crazy. Yeah, it's crazy. And there's obviously discord chats that we're looking to see if we could get our hands on. Obviously, those are extremely hard to do. That's where a lot of these individuals are taken offline and radicalized. So if there is something there, it's very likely that it wouldn't be on the comment section, obviously, but it would happen behind And encrypted, and I know you guys and Roger Stone just discussed it, it's not really encrypted. So the FBI likely has copies of all these discussions. But it'd be taking place on a private server that they think is encrypted, I guess I'd say. So again, we're looking for more. We've got way more information. I'm sifting through it, cuz I just got all of this a couple of hours ago. So we're kind of going through it, running it through a PI right now to figure it out.

2:44:09 information, all of this. But there's several social media pages that he had. And so-. And this gives major validity what Tucker has been working on for months and just dropped with his documentary. Yeah, so Tucker got this back in September. We just got this and we're working on this also with an attorney who you're going to have on the show on Monday as well. So we're going to keep sifting through this, but there's a ton more. I mean, this is dozens and dozens of pages of social media accounts that allegedly belong to Crooks. And so we're gonna continue to sift through all of this. But again, it creates more confusion cuz how does someone go from being a Trump supporter allegedly from their YouTube comments to then all of a sudden be a radical lefty who goes out there and tries to kill the president? Now we do know.

2:44:51 that he was someone who publicly posted, and this is another great point, Alex, because he publicly posted death threats to elected officials. How does someone who's posting over the span of 2019 to 2021 multiple death threats to political, like political officials all across the spectrum, not get a call or knock on their door from the FBI. It's really hard to think that a single federal agency had this guy on their radar, even though it looks like according to his YouTube account, he might have been communicating with somebody who was associated with the foreign Antifa organization, who is on the State Department's radar potentially. So none of this seems to make sense.

2:45:31 Kirk was six tranny saying he'll be dead tomorrow celebrating the day it happened. See, I told you and now we know. Cash Pills said kill that investigation. I mean, this doesn't look good. It doesn't look good for the FBI, unfortunately, right now. There's a lot going on that people are just scratching their heads and wondering why is this happening right now. Obviously, many people within the Trump circle, his family, his son, Eric Trump, has not been happy with the investigation thus far. They still don't know any information. But it's very, very clear to us that these things, these social media posts, have intentionally been withheld from the public so they can't understand-. Yeah, so they've been caught alive, that's the big news. So where do you see this going now?

2:46:12 I think we're gonna create a lot of pressure for the FBI to start releasing more information. They don't like to verify these things. They make us put this out there first, and then they have to forcefully verify it, of course. So right now, I think there's gonna be a lot of public pressure. I think the president's gonna be really fired up and angry, probably get a call Probably Cash Pothole will be receiving a phone call probably relatively soon. And there will be questions asked. He needs to go out in front of the American people and make a comment, a public comment about this. And then Patel hopes who's busy just forgets. I've been told for the last admin, this one. He gets mad, he gets focused, but he's so busy, they just go, he'll forget. Let's just move on.

2:46:49 Well, I don't think he's gonna forget because he almost got hit in the head with the bullet. So I think this one's gonna be a top priority for him and I hope it is. Listen, the American people deserve answers here because it looks like there might have been some radicalization done online potentially by a Antifa organization. And again and again, we keep talking about this and they host roundtables. But there's nothing being done to stop these radical left wing groups that go out there and radicalize Americans online and go after those who are mentally ill. And then obviously, we saw what happened to Charlie Kirk. So, again, they just continue to create these so-called conspiracies that they like to say, you don't know if this is true. They told Tucker, you don't know if this is true, this is authentic. But they won't actually put the information out there for the American people to see. Yeah, that's key. They say Tucker's full of crap and then you have all the evidence come out it's all true. And of course, it goes, we all saw it happen. He obviously probably wasn't even the shooter. You got all this forensics, it's crazy.

CHAPTER 29 / 39 Discussion

George Soros, Larry Fink, and the 2030 Agenda

Alex Jones delivers a monologue on the "premeditated" destruction of the West by globalist figures like George Soros and Larry Fink. He argues that the "2030 Agenda" is designed to destroy the middle class and replace free-market competition with corporate-government rule. Jones claims these elites use class envy and manufactured crises to consolidate power.

george soros· larry fink· 2030 agenda· blackrock· globalism

2:47:39 Maybe cash in them are just total amateurs because I mean this If I was a villain, I would do a better job at this. It's like they just do the worst job possible Yeah, yeah, and I know we assess like a couple seconds, but I want to get out there to the Tucker I did a good job at vetting this hold on do five more minutes We got call sir for the big FBI was a blur on all those coming up But just do five more minutes around Morello here with us. She hosts weekday mornings She's out of town right now covering stuff, but uh Rob did a great job as far as she's back Monday 8 a.m. Central, American Journal, Infowars.com, Ford's last show, Brian Morello, great investigative journalist, back in two minutes, stay with us. They know what they're doing. They mean business. They've already conquered most of the world. And they're not gonna stop. George Soros stole the pension funds of dozens of countries' old people. The left loves him. He crashes currencies. He puts old people on the street. He helps Adolf Hitler round up Jews. They love that!

2:48:36 That's power. That's the pure exercise of will to them. Because they're such disgusting people. Look at Mondami, look at Alexander Soros. Those are the most disingenuous, fake, wicked, manipulating people that have nothing but absolute, total rage towards you and your family. You're a hard-working, middle-class black family? They hate you. You're a hard-working, middle-class Hispanic family? They hate you. You're a hard-working, middle-class white family? They hate you. They hate anything that ever stood up to total power and total control. It's in their textbooks of why the West must be destroyed so there's no example of anybody else and no hope worldwide. Nothing but darkness and evil rulers because they can do whatever they want. And how they convince the West that we're the authors of the evil, that we're the authors of slavery, that we're the authors of darkness and destruction. When despite all our problems, the West has been the great light

2:49:32 And they don't deny that in Japan. They don't deny that as philosophers even in India. They teach that there's no, but not here. You've got to be taught that you are bad. You are evil. So you must bow down and give up your life force, give up your will, give up your survival instinct and learn to hate yourself because the world's going to end because the ice caps all melt and the polar bears all drown. None of it's true. And you know it's not true. But when AOC and all of them tell you the world ends in 2030, well under their 2030 agenda, the world as you know it is over. And any free market capitalist system of competition is over. And the mega corporations through the governments rule you. And they do it all through class envy. When it is the billionaire globalist class, the BlackRocks, the Larry Finks that are running all of this.

2:50:18 So when you hear about the ones welfare and everybody that wants a free lunch there by that's a criminal Everybody that wants to get away with murder is gonna come to New York and that boy that's stupid. That'll destroy the city That's the plan and then is that false and as they bring in even more foreigners that boy That boils into the next town, boils into the next city. And the incredible corruption of the Democratic Party and all the money they steal and all the things they do. They want to destroy all the tourist centers. They want ugliness. They want homelessness. They want homeless camps everywhere. They want rats running around the street. While Larry Fink lives on a 20,000 acre gigantic mansion that's rivaled what the King of England has. But oh, he's up there telling you if you're making $100,000 a year, you're a rich, evil, white person, and you better do whatever he says.

2:51:03 And they're destroying the means of production. The big banks don't want competition. They want to destroy the means of production so they can then issue you credits when you're in debt. They already own 80 plus percent of the assets in the world, but now they've got to get the last 20 percent. Not just because they're greedy like Scrooge McDuck that wants to swim around in gold, but because they want to dictate everything to us. They don't want you to have anything. Not a garden, not your health, not a little farm, not a skill, not be able to say 2 plus 2 equals 4, not be able to fix an engine because all the engines are computerized and won't let you. They want a post-human world with robots delivering us all our food and everything else, the poison food. It is a premeditated

2:51:44 premeditated, premeditated, premeditated, premeditated. Well, I've been a fan of Brown Morello for three or four years, watching her around longer than that. But Fox news, you name it, man, getting to know her working at the office. She is just knocking on the park. Very hardworking and amazing accuracy record. We have Thomas Massey saying a whistleblower is being targeted by the FBI. We have on Gino flipping out about it.

CHAPTER 30 / 39 Discussion

FBI Crisis, Michigan Terror Plot, and Kash Patel

Brianna Morello highlights a "civil war" within the DOJ and FBI, noting that Kash Patel reportedly announced a terror plot in Michigan for PR purposes before all suspects were arrested. She advises Dan Bongino to leave the FBI to save his media career, as the agency is allegedly working to discredit both him and Patel.

fbi· kash patel· michigan· isis· dan bongino

2:52:39 to turn the pipe bomber and J6 reportedly being allegedly a capital police and CIA. And that story's off the radar now partially. And now you have this everywhere I look, the Justice Department and the FBI particularly is in crisis. We got four minutes to totally end this. Just in general, I know you have a lot of DOJ sources. What is the state of it? It looks like a civil war is going on inside of it. Well, I mean, keep in mind, Alex, remember just a couple of weeks ago, we had breaking news and it came straight from the FBI director's Twitter account when he said that there was allegedly a terror plot that they caught and they broke up in Michigan. And then we later learned that

2:53:21 This was apparently ISIS inspired. Now the thing is, is Kash Patel put out that information prior to the criminal complaint being completely drafted up by the DOJ. And it was right when your next guest Kyle Serafin was putting out his jet logs and all of his information out there. And that was causing quite the PR nightmare. But also keep in mind that We now know that he announced all of this on social media prior to all of the individuals who are allegedly involved in this ISIS inspired terror plot being arrested. They had only arrested two of the individuals. It later came in another two and then I believe another individual was also arrested as apparently 10 characters listed in the indictment. One is actually a minor so we don't know their details.

2:54:02 But the reason why I say it is cash hotel came out before these people were even arrested and announced that on X and he put it out there which caused one of them to bump up their flight and was getting ready when the FBI caught them and Arrested them was getting ready to leave the country So we have an FBI director who likes to put things out there prior to it being a hundred Jumping the gun for PR purposes and promoting his girlfriend's country music job. It's total edge lording, total Hollywood wannabe stuff, which is very sad. FBI director just put this out, Kash Patel. He said, oh, 480 FBI agents, we did the investigation. A repeat of Fox News eight, nine months ago. We investigated it, that's the way it is, and he acted alone. This is only to put fuel on the fire.

2:54:49 Yeah, yeah, it is, it is because they won't be transparent. They sat here and told us they were gonna tell us all the information and put it out there and they didn't. And they also got really strange and were just being very vague and so they couldn't give us stuff during the notorious interview that Dan and Cash did with Maria Bartiromo on Fox. And the both of them look like there was someone behind the camera with a gun to point it directly at them. Cuz the way that they were speaking just wasn't natural. And it sounded like they were under a lot of pressure to come out here and hit key talking points. So I think that they're creating a lot of these so-called conspiracies that they'd like to pretend and dismiss are conspiratorial or they're not true. We all know that there's a lot of issues with the FBI and these were the two men who were supposed to create a transparent FBI for us and give us the answers that they said we deserve to see. And unfortunately, that's not the case. Now I know- I don't see how either one of them, and Patel's obviously the problem, I don't see how they're there soon.

2:55:44 I think Bongino was smart months ago trying to leave. This is a disaster. And Patel jumps on everything, attacks, sues journalists for no reason. I mean, good God, this man is a train wreck. Yeah, well, my word of advice would be get off Twitter. That'd be the first thing because they seem to be very consumed about what those say on Twitter, which is strange. But I was encouraging Dan to leave the FBI so he could still at least have a podcasting career. Because I think it's very obvious that they are doing their very best to try to discredit both of these men here. Yeah, absolutely. All right. Thank you so much. And I guess you're gonna have more of this in the coming days. Yeah, we'll be posting this. We'll be posting it all over Twitter, of course, at Brianna Morello and over on independent newsroom.com as well. All right. We'll cover it all here at InfoWars. Thank you, Brianna.

CHAPTER 31 / 39 Discussion

White House Ballroom, Operation Big Balls, and Kash Patel

A satirical segment titled "Operation Big Balls" discusses Donald Trump's reported construction of a massive ballroom at the White House. Jones transitions back to the "meltdown" of Kash Patel, questioning if Patel's behavior will bring down the Trump administration. He notes that Patel is suing journalists while the FBI creates a rapid reaction force to counter whistleblowers.

white house· donald trump· operation big balls· kash patel· fbi

2:56:32 Thank you, Alex. All right, Kyle Serafin, not just the number one MPI whistleblower in current time, nobody's ever done as much as this guy. He's batting almost 1,000. I say almost, maybe there's something I found where he was wrong, I didn't find it. I wanna see batting 1,000, because maybe he's been wrong about something I don't know about. But what I know about batting 1,000, he'll cover the waterfront and where this crisis in the Trump administration goes. We're covering this to fix it, all right? Cuz we have power to change things. We're doing this to change things, not to attack Trump. Do you know who's going full steam ahead with the wrecking ball at the White House? President Trump bulldozed a third of the White House last week. It's all being replaced by a massive ballroom. He's ripping up the East Wing to build a grand gilded ballroom. Construction workers yesterday

2:57:22 began tearing down a portion of the East Wing of the White House to build President Trump's new ballroom. You guys, I don't think he's planning on leaving in three years. The entire East Wing of the White House is now gone irreparably. I'm happy to announce Operation Big Balls. ♪♪ Well I'm upper, upper class, high society God's gift to ballroom neutrality And I always fill my ballroom, the event is never small The social pages say I've got the biggest balls of all Big, I've got big balls

2:58:19 There's such big balls and a dainty big balls. And he's got big balls and she's got big balls. The best of them all! Trains and bulldozers are tearing up the facade of the White House's East Wing, clearing the way for President Donald Trump's new ballroom. You hear that sound? Oh, that's music to my ears. I love that sound. It's going to be bigger than the White House itself. The demolition sparking outrage today. That is more destruction the White House has seen since the troops for the British crown burned it down in the War of 1812. Donald Trump is tearing down the White House. It's all part of the president's new

2:59:03 new ballroom project. Operation Big Beautiful Balls, that's what we're going to call it. I don't remember asking for a ballroom. Trump continues building his multi-hundred million dollar ballroom and we're now at $350 million. Barry tore up the White House and spent $400 million in taxpayer money during a recession and what did he have to show for it? A basketball court. And Trump's using donor money to build all of it. Trump's spending less. $300 million on a big beautiful ballroom and you're not paying for it. The government's paying absolutely nothing. The ballroom is going to be glorious. I made the balls a little larger as a tribute to my manhood. The biggest and most beautiful balls of them all.

2:59:48 We've got big balls. No one elected big balls. Big B-A-L-L-S, big balls here. He's got big balls. She's got big balls. Personally, I voted for big balls. You love us. All right, we've got an incredibly accurate FBI whistleblower who exposed the Democrats. It was such a hero to the right. and the Bongino and Patel and everybody. And then as soon as they got in, boy, it was ice age. And you've got the Thomas Crooks bombshell that they had all this metadata and this social media and covered it up. Obviously that's all being confirmed. We've got the Epstein fiasco coming to a head.

3:00:39 You've got Patel, not just suing Khalserifan who's on with us, the former FBI agent, but also Elijah Schaefer that we covered. And they say he never talked bad about her. He just posted a photo of her. And so he's anti-Israel, so he needs to be taken off the air. And now this is just downbreaking. I mean, total fear, total hysteria in the FBI. Absolute disaster. Kash Patel, wave polygraph screening for Don Bangino. We've got how the FBI's massive search for the pipe bomber stalled. This is all coming out. There's a big new development in the Jan 6 pipe bomber story. This is all just completely wild. And then huge scandal suing Calcerifone for just saying, hey, the internet thinks you might be Honeypot, could be, that's just free speech. And then Audit Schaefer even less, drawing massive attention to it,

3:01:45 And then you've got Trump plunging in the real polls. This is coming to a head very, very quickly. And the big question is now will Kash Patel bring down the Trump administration? Because he is just running around wild eyed. They've created this rapid reaction force to counter Tucker with the whistleblowers, the information that they had all this stuff on Crooks. The main shooter, Patsey in Butler, Pennsylvania, July 13th last year. Everything they're doing is like a hole in one but in reverse.

3:02:23 It's what I would do if I wanted to destroy myself. Just like eight, nine months ago, the deer in the headlights interview on Fox, Epstein killed himself, Crooks acted alone. Now we know what I first reported back in September from the White House. The Patel screamed at Tulsi Gabbard and said, even though she's commissioned by Congress by law to do it, I don't want you involved looking at us. We don't want to look at any accomplices, even though you had six trainees saying Charlie Kirk will be dead tomorrow. We don't look at foreign involvement. I mean, this is so surreal. I can hardly believe it. So I'm going to try to shut up because I got so many questions. But Kyle, where to begin? How would you describe where we're at right now?

CHAPTER 32 / 39 Discussion

Kyle Serafin, Thomas Crooks, and FBI Briefings

Former FBI agent Kyle Serafin analyzes Dan Bongino's claims that there was "no there there" regarding Thomas Crooks' digital footprint. Serafin suggests that Bongino and Patel were "bubble wrapped" by the FBI and took briefings from the very people they were supposed to be investigating. He highlights that Tucker Carlson's documentary has already debunked the official narrative regarding Crooks' lack of an online presence.

kyle serafin· thomas crooks· fbi· dan bongino· tucker carlson

3:03:08 I mean, I think clearly we're watching the complete meltdown of Kash Patel in real time. And then what comes next from this? I mean, we had all these other issues, but this is now front and center because of the just bizarre behavior of Kash Patel. Kyle Serfin, thanks for being here with us. People can. Find all your work at the call service show.locals.com at call Sarah, phone on X call server, show.com, rubble.com. Call Sarah for call. Thank you so much for being here. And at the tip of the spear, so nobody's more dolled in than you from all your sources, your own research, what is going on? I think we start with the Tucker story. Did you watch that? Have you guys kind of talked about the documentary? We can roll some B roll of that. Yeah. Who is, who is Thomas Crooks? So he does this bit on who's Thomas Crooks and what's really damning

3:03:56 And I sent you guys a clip over there and I think if they get to it, it's video number five. It's the last one I sent over, but if they can get a chance to play it, it's actually in Tucker's little documentary. And what it is, is and I didn't key in on it previously. It was the Maria Bartiromo interview. That's the one where they look like they're doing a hostage thing. And that's what Brianna was talking about just a moment ago. They're sitting there, they're on camera talking to a Fox lady, which is a friendly, easy interview to do. And Dan had the most uncomfortable, ridiculous statement. He says, We've been briefed on all the files. And I'm riding my bike like an hour ago watching the Tucker thing and they played that and I went, holy crap. I bet they didn't even review it themselves. And that makes sense. Like when you're the deputy director, you got a lot of things going on. When you're the director of the FBI, you got a lot of things going on. But what you're trying to tell us is that the people who worked at the FBI that did all the things in the FBI that these guys claimed was a problem, they just took their word on it.

3:04:53 And let him say it in his own words and we'll go back and dissect it. I'll see if you hone in on the same thing, but it doesn't sound like they even did the review themselves. And then he says things that are not real. I don't know what a tendril or a nugget of a story is, but that's a Dan Bongino thing for saying, I don't know what's going on, so I just make up words. And remember, let the audience-. Let's say there's no internet files of Thomas Crooks. Yeah, he legitimately says there's no there there during this particular interview. But he also says that if I'm hearing him correctly, He didn't actually review it and I think Tucker nailed it with that little piece of it. But the bigger point is there are no files but we reviewed the files that don't exist. Here's the clip. Clip five guys. Cash is not kidding. We've been personally briefed extensively on every single detail, nugget, tendril of this case. One is actively in court right now so out of respect for the case, it's probably more appropriate that I stay quiet on that. However,

3:05:50 I'm not going to tell people what they want to hear. I'm going to tell you the truth, and whether you like it or not is up to you. If there was a big explosive there, there, right? Given my history as a Secret Service agent and my personal friendship as a director does with the president. Give me one logical, sensible reason we would not have... If you can think of one, there isn't. There isn't... In some of these cases, the there you're looking for is not there. And I know people... I get it. I understand. It's not there. If it was there, we would have told you.

3:06:31 Well, the thing that I've keyed in on both of these guys have the same tell and they both been using it basically since they've moved into this role. They both refer to prior credibility and then they don't answer a question. They actually ask a question. And so it goes like this, Alex, you asked me a question and I say, Alex, based on all you know about me, would I ever lie about this thing? They don't say, I actually reviewed all the files. I sat down there and I looked at the evidence myself and I went down to whatever the evidence locker is in Pennsylvania or whatever it is. And I don't know if they should do that. And he goes, listen, trust me. Yep, he did the same thing on Rogan. Patel did it on Rogan. He's done it a couple of times. He steps out and he always does this. He says, based on who you guys know I am, would I ever lie to you about this thing? Could you imagine if I was gonna hide the idea of a child trafficker getting away with it and hurting some kids? And you go,

3:07:20 And you go, I don't know, would you? That's the follow up question is like, would you? Because you don't get to just ask a question and let me answer for myself. But that's what they both have done in the same scenario. And then we find out this bit that Tucker had. So Tucker's documentary is very It's damning in so much as there's a lot of questions that are not answered. And he pointed out the roadmap on how to get to the answers. He said that there's something like 11 or 12 or whatever the number is of internet personality profiles. They were on various different websites. There was a Snapchat. He had 700 plus comments over on YouTube, which was suspended right after the shooting. They had stuff over on

3:07:55 And then Tucker also does a pretty good job, assuming that he's accurately assessing the movement of these comments. They go from very pro-Donald Trump to very pro-Donald Trump. to very anti Donald Trump. And as they do that, it has to do with maybe COVID and lockdowns and you can imagine that have a big impact on people. Well, just since you came on, Breonna Marella with the lawyer of the game of Saturker has got it. And she said it's all there. Now, did he really post this? Did Crooks do it or somebody else? The point is, this is no longer speculation. Whoever did it, we have it. So again, why is Bongino, which we have a clip of, earlier telling Congress it's so weird

CHAPTER 33 / 39 Discussion

FBI Narrative, Digital Footprints, and Dan Bongino

Kyle Serafin argues that the FBI's claim of a "missing" digital footprint for a 20-year-old in the modern era defies logic. He points out that Bongino previously expressed skepticism about this lack of data before joining the administration. Serafin suggests that the FBI is using Bongino and Patel to maintain an official narrative that protects the agency from scrutiny.

fbi· dan bongino· thomas crooks· chip roy· social media

3:08:40 There's no internet background on this guy. Now we know the Biden FBI ignored it, now the new one's ignoring it. Why would you do that? It's a hell of a question. What my guess is, is just based on listening to him and taking him at his word, he got briefed on it. And the FBI is in the business of not giving the FBI any bad press. So the story went out, there was no footprint. That's what Paula Bates said in front of Congress. This is the official narrative, we're gonna go ahead and craft that out there. And then theoretically, we put a couple of skeptics in who said the FBI needed to either be burned to the ground or completely dismantled and rebuilt in the image of proper constitutional law enforcement. And then they didn't do it. And why would you go in and do the one, I swear to God, Alex, I warned these guys of this personally.

3:09:24 I've said it, I said it to Cash. The first thing these people will do is bubble wrap you. And bubble wrapping is a tactic and we've talked about it with different names and different agencies. But essentially you come in and you give them all the scare tactics and you wrap them up and you have them go out there and do the politics and you tell them how cool this job is and look at the jet and here's how nice it is and here's where we can go and we've got your itinerary lined up and Why don't you fly out here and see these people in San Diego? That'll be cool. And now you got to go to league at London and all this stuff. So they fly all over the place and they get you really excited about the job and the perks and all the things that go along with it and not doing the job. And don't worry about the FBI. We'll run the FBI. It actually reminds me of that scene from, I think it's from Dark Knight or from, you know, Batman, one of the Batman beginnings.

3:10:03 where they say something about, don't worry Mr. Rain, it's very complicated running this company. We've got that under control, you just go be a playboy and a billionaire and why don't you go have fun? And of course, that's the joke at the end is that he takes control of the entity, but they didn't do that. They didn't go in there with a skepticism, these people would come and lie to you. You're gonna take a brief from people that work at the FBI about the story that was like theoretically gonna go kill your friend, the current president? And then you get scooped by Tucker Carlson because he actually went and did the work on it. I've got some insight that the New York Post may have a story coming out pretty soon as well. And it's gonna be even worse, because this information has been shared with a couple of folks and Tucker's documentary is one. And there's additional information that needed to be run down and it's gonna look really, really bad. Now, my buddies tend to think it looks like what we call the playbook, which is where the

3:10:50 The government sets up somebody to do something, but inevitably, they've been really successful at taking these people down. Inevitably, they're gonna set up somebody who's gonna kind of escape. containment. And they're gonna go do the thing that they weren't supposed to do. Maybe they don't take the fake gun that the FBI gives them, they take a real gun from their dad or something. We've been waiting for this to happen for a long time. And I've always wondered if that was what was going on there. We've got another clip of him talking about it. Bongino used to be a skeptic and suddenly he got in there. Now he's like the biggest cheerleader for this organization. And he's just shredding his credibility, especially when he says, I took the word of the FBI on this. Who would do that? Where did podcaster Dan Bongino go that was out there railing about total personnel warfare and said it needs to be dismantled and it can't be redeemed? It blows my mind. So I don't know if you guys want to play that.

3:11:39 I There's a lot of suspicious factors here. How did a 20 year old manage to clean his digital footprint forever? It seems odd that we haven't seen any leaks at all. I said to the audience as an old investigator myself, if this was a 60 year old guy, You could say to yourself, okay, you know he grew up most of his life without social media. Maybe by his 40s he decides he's gonna plan an assassination in 20 years. All right, crazy story, whatever. And he says I'm gonna go dark on the social media. A 20 year old

3:12:26 So you're telling me at 13 years old when every kid's on Snapchat, this kid decides he's gonna commit an assassination seven years later and has no detectable social media footprint ever. It is so beyond calculating in the normal brain, something's up. So let's unpack this. This is him before Trump gets in. And here's him after they tried to kill Trump in Congress with Chip Roy. And so we know the deputy director was doing the cover up, the stand down of the Secret Service. We know all that. And so it's not one clip, it's two clips. He comes out and says, oh no, there's a cover up. I can't believe it doesn't have metadata or doesn't have internet data. Now we learn it was given to them by whistleblowers that have now gone to Congress, who my reporters have talked to with their lawyers today. So they're telling us just like cash yet we should get rid of the FBI.

CHAPTER 34 / 39 Discussion

Jan 6 Pipe Bomber, Gate Analysis, and Steve Baker

Serafin discusses new developments in the January 6th pipe bomber investigation, specifically a "gate analysis" that reportedly matches a former Capitol Police officer. He alleges that the FBI excluded law enforcement from their initial geofence and phone data analysis. Serafin claims that contractors using high-level biometric systems have identified a suspect, but the FBI is resisting the findings.

pipe bomber· gate analysis· steve baker· capitol police· fbi

3:13:21 Main building in DC, we should turn it into a museum, we shouldn't be involved in all this investigations and intelligence. Then he says, he told the average, shut down all your intelligence, I only do intelligence. It's all 180s. And then now there's another clip, and then now suddenly we know they were given this and didn't want it. So to me, you can say who tried to kill Trump, who was Thomas Crooks all day long? We have a clear cover up here, folks. Here's Bongino to Congress. And importantly that his digital footprint is completely MIA. That his digital footprint is missing. And that how can a 20 year old in today's time have no digital footprint? So do you have any thoughts on that, any comments on that? And that'll be my last question. Well, four years of doing protective intelligence investigations with the Secret Service interviewed probably hundreds of people who have credibly threatened our protectees.

3:14:11 I've never seen anything like it. If you would have told me it was a 60 year old guy who lived most of his life without a computer for the last 10 years had been planning this, hard to believe but digestible. You're telling me a 20 year old kid who's grown up in the digital era figured this out when he was what 13 to never get an online presence? We've seen nothing. Nothing, we're now six weeks in, there's not a Facebook photo. You know, it's incredible, we know every single thing about these shooting incidents when there's a political narrative to be had by the media and the other side. We do. You know who the high school girlfriend was. Sadly, you know everything about these people.

3:14:48 We know nothing about this guy. And sophisticated explosives? We have this massive law enforcement bureaucracy. No one's got him with an online search history at a library saying, how do I build this? He's 20 years old. It just, again, it just defies logic. I can tell you, again, four years doing these exact investigations. I've never ever seen or heard anything like this in my life. And then six months later, he goes on Fox as the deputy director and says, trust me, there's nothing there. And now we know they've been given it all. I mean, this is smoking gun, not of what happened, but smoking gun cover up, call servant. Am I wrong? Well, they wouldn't have given it to Dan. So this is the problem. And I think, like I said, language means something. These guys are precise communicators or they should be.

3:15:36 And I'm fairly confident that he didn't do the, he said, I'm an old investigator at one point in there and I heard that and I went, oh, okay, yeah. You know what an investigator does? Day one, you sit down with the file and you read it. When you get a new case and you don't know it and you're inheriting it from somebody else and you don't have them to brief you up on it or even if you do, don't you want to know what has been done? I don't say tell me about an email or tell me, I say give me the thing. Right, you tell me fine, you tell me what the blurb is, why do I care? And then I go read all the documents. Look, I've had new cases assigned to me that had been active for years. When I first got into the bureau, first thing they do, they give you a bunch of garbage and you gotta read them. I had eight cases in the counterintelligence division. I read all of them.

3:16:14 the hundreds and hundreds of pages, you just read through it. You go, okay, what was done at this time? Okay, what year are we in right now? Okay, kind of like, what are we, okay, now here's another year. We're gonna do all the background checks. We're gonna do all the financials again. Okay, got it. I'm tracking the pace. I'm tracking the structure. I know what has been found. I know what has been different. If you don't know what's been done or what hasn't been done, how on earth can you make a comment about it? You're gonna take a briefing from somebody in the FBI that you don't know and theoretically don't trust because they've actually got a vested interest in hiding things from you because they're gonna do the same thing they did? And that's good enough, but if that's the case, these guys are massively incompetent. You don't have enough information or you bought into it and you basically are completely overwhelmed. Maybe that I don't this is not a like somebody threatened his family and their compromise scenario. This is a person who is prideful who thought they were to come in and do something and found out that the job was actually more than they could handle. And all they can maybe handle is the briefs. At the end of the day, I'm incredibly disappointed at re listening to this because it's really, really bad. And all of that actually goes along with some of the other stuff that's been going on this last week. We have a lot of people that are going to be in jail.

3:17:17 We had a breakthrough that my buddy Steve Baker put out there in the pipe bomb case. And what have they done? You guys don't see this behind the scenes. But stuff behind the scenes has been a incredible effort by the FBI not to have natural curiosity. Imagine if you had a case that you're working on and you don't even have to be an investigator to think if you were working on something for five years and someone brought you a novel theory that had significant pieces of it that lined up. Like the person was in the area, the person was the right height, the person had the right sort of limp and gait. The person might have the right sort of ideology to go along with it. The person had the right build. That person is unaccounted for during that time frame. Wouldn't you be like, wow, I'm hyper curious. They gave me access to one of the NSA subsidiaries to run the gate biometric scan and now they want to fire those people. So it's not like they just said, oh, it looks like the same walk. This is used U.S. government AI systems.

3:18:11 Yeah, well actually outside of US government systems. But yes, that if like high level next generation, you know, gate analysis stuff was what was being done as I was saying, the contractors are the government. Exactly. Yeah, that's right. Okay, so all of that being the case, would you not have a natural curiosity and try to say like, any answer is a good answer, no matter how who comes up with it. I used to have a rule on my surveillance team. It's like, I don't care who comes up with the best plan for what we're going to do when we have an assignment, we're going to attack it. If somebody has the best idea, that's the one we're going to do. It's not about credit. It's about mission. And if these guys are more interested in credit and they're not interested in what the actual mission is, the end result should be the actual, the thing they seek, then we're kind of screwed. So I've got some additional things that are kind of bothering me as well. In addition to this jet story, which we could talk about a little bit further, the jet story lines up with some actual international problems and a story that just came out of the New York Times that I had shared with me and even more than what they had

3:19:06 in the New York Times story was given to me like day before yesterday. And we had a new whistleblower come forward. And the first thing they did was deploy Julie Kelly, the great Julie Kelly of the January 6th stuff, to go out and do just nothing but hit jobs on Kyle Serafin. If you guys are curious, go to her Twitter feed, go look through it. And it's about 85%, you know, Kyle Serafin derangement syndrome stuff. And nothing about natural curiosity is like, can we find the answer? If we found a pipe bomber, wouldn't you be excited about that? Wouldn't that actually prove the thing that she's been saying for years? you're going to go directly from Dan. You gotta be happy. You gotta be happy though. They are all over your ass. This is just making you bigger, more people pay attention. Now. Try sand big time. They've got terrible decision. If I was a bad guy and Kyle Sarah was at me, I would just shut up.

CHAPTER 35 / 39 Discussion

Infowars Future, Thomas Massie, and FBI Whistleblowers

Alex Jones discusses the potential shutdown of Infowars in January and the ongoing efforts of Congressman Thomas Massie to protect FBI whistleblowers. He claims that Bongino has been "screaming" at journalists who question the official story on the Charlie Kirk and pipe bomber investigations. Jones expresses concern that the administration's handling of these issues is hurting Trump's popularity.

infowars· thomas massie· fbi· kash patel· dan bongino

3:19:51 That's like rule number one. These people are dumb. I mean, I know their egos. I'm serious. Like, I know you're right after me. I'd be like zip barring a miracle in the courts. Info wars should be shut down somewhere close to January 1st. But that's just a website. It's just the studios. The info war belongs to the people of America and the world. The population doing their own research, getting involved in the community, and studying what the globalists are doing, exposing them, and resisting them. And we've come from basically 1% of the population knowing what was happening 31 years ago when I got involved in the fight to close to half of the people, not just in America but around the world, being incredibly awake and engaged and informed. And so that's so exciting.

3:20:36 And we have fought so hard together, that's why we've been targeted. Because the globalists want to take us off the air so that we can't continue to tell the truth. But this operation is just one manifestation of the InfoWars. I want to thank all of you over the decades. InfoWars has been around 28 years for not just supporting the InfoWars, but being the InfoWars. Now, that said, the legendary shopping cart, InfoWarsStore.com, with all the great products that kept us on the air through all those fights, It's still up and operating. Everything is still being shipped out within a day or two of your orders coming in. And two of our fan favorites are available for the last time at infowarestore.com. These just came in, brand new, fresh, ultimate fish oil, the three certified best types of fish oil that do such incredible things for your body. Last up to 18, 24 months. So you can also save it if you need to.

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3:22:24 And they explained, listen, you don't need to go that high. Just raw turmeric capsules are 4% and people get amazing, amazing responses from it. 75 is just over the top. I said, no, go 95%. Now the industry all over the place has gone to 95% of your humanoid. So we are continuing to trailblaze and be leaders in this. So it is your last chance to get Body's Ultimate Turmeric Formula and Ultimate Fish Oil at infowarestore.com, the legendary site and the legendary fight. Thank you so much for your support. Now stock up while you can on bodies, ultimate tumor formula and ultimate visual. All right, folks, I'm not a drama queen. I want Trump to succeed. But I told you weeks ago his poll numbers were way down. Now it's out everywhere. And you've got this pipe bomber cover up and Grassley's on it and Massey's on it in the house and reported whistleblowers being threatened by the FBI and then by Gino, who's the

3:23:21 guy that goes in on anything. I mean, I know major talk show hosts that just mentioned, yeah, there's a cover of a Charlie Kirk, which has been confirmed that Patel had that fight with Tulsi Gabbard and said, don't look into it when that's her job. And then Bongino calls up and flips out on people. Well, then he calls up and flips out on Congressman Massey, sends him a letter, and they're so scared of this pipe bombing thing. This is a big deal. So this is beyond a crisis of the DOJ and the FBI. And we now know that Patel did lie in his confirmation hearing on a bunch of stuff. They let him through because they believe he's compromised. And so I think Trump, this is an embarrassment. He's waiting to get rid of him. I don't think he can wait very long. We wanna have an FBI director, we can back the Missouri AG, the one we're told lined up for that. Now brought in as the deputy, dual deputy the first time in history with

3:24:19 Bongino, we heard Bongino just wants an exit out of this. But I gotta tell you, Bongino from all my sources is very energetic on people's asses to do the opposite of what he said before he got into power. And so you can try to analyze what's behind it all day. But when I see 180s folks and people look like they're in the headlights, it's disconcerting actually. I mean, this is so cartoonish. This is so pathetic. that I don't take pleasure in it. I want to be 100% clear I need Trump to succeed. Kyle, on the pipe bomber information, we talked over the weekend, you said no, it's real, it's a cover up, it's a system protecting itself, reportedly Capitol Police, now CIA, and then all these threats went out behind the scenes of myself and others just even covering what was being said by Glen Beck. Glen Beck's very careful about stuff he puts out,

CHAPTER 36 / 39 Discussion

FBI Rapid Response, Julie Kelly, and Child Pornography

Kyle Serafin criticizes the FBI's new "rapid response" Twitter account and the agency's promotion of a researcher he deems unreliable. He discusses the dangers of private individuals researching child pornography without a legal mandate. Serafin alleges that Julie Kelly is acting as an "unofficial spokesperson" for the FBI to attack whistleblowers.

fbi· julie kelly· dan bongino· steve friend· child pornography

3:25:09 You didn't see denials now the last week, we just saw behind the scenes threats. Now a crisis management center flipping out on members of Congress. This looks pretty damn bad. So why would the new FBI, if it is new, wanna cover up what really happened on January 6th and something that would devastate the Democrats, Kyle Serafin? It's the same FBI. It's like this is the whole point. Why would you take a briefing from people who worked at the FBI if your entire podcasting career was based on saying something otherwise? It's really wild to watch it. And again, I'm not gonna opine on the motive, because I don't know what the motive is. I actually don't. It's surprising as anything. No, I agree. These people are destroying themselves in live time.

3:25:56 Bongina went on this sort of scream cry, scorned girlfriend thing. These are the things that I called you and you didn't call me back. And there's other kind of nonsense and it's the opposite of tough guy, it's just whining. And he did this about Tom Massey who just dominated. What it did do though, is it actually confirmed that the FBI got the notice that Massey was putting out that the FBI was looking to destroy whistleblowers. And so I'm not going to go into the details of what happened, I'm connected to the attorney and he's been on this program. In fact, when I sat in your chair, I interviewed Kurt Suzdak. Kurt Suzdak coordinates Pro Bono for whistleblowers that want to get information to members of Congress out of the FBI. It's not an easy thing to do. He's a retired FBI agent. He's also an attorney. So that's great. So he does that.

3:26:43 And he helped coordinate this thing. And all we saw was an immediate not like, great, that's good stuff. Thank God people are coming forward. They wanna get the answers. What we saw was, and I'm telling you Julie Kelly's name only because she seems to be the right hand woman of Dan Bongino. I unaffectionately refer to as the official unofficial spokesperson of the FBI. She goes out there and she starts calling them quote unquote whistleblowers, which is exactly what Democrats did. And she's given like $100,000 to Democrats. That's it. And they have to wait on the interview because Bongino is shooing the producer in the mount for simply saying, looks like a Kirk cover up, which is confirmed. I'm not a criminal, okay, but I can think how they think. I can study criminology. If I wanted to, I'd call up and kiss a journalist's ass and tell them some cover story. I wouldn't call up and scream at them. They act completely guilty. They've gone from, they're the whistleblowers, they're the guys that are gonna clean out the Aegean stables, to more aggressive than liberals were when they were in power, with the official story.

3:27:41 Well, based on the story you told me and then based on what people can see now online, and then the reaction last night just and I think it was twofold. People said they created a rapid response team for the FBI, which I think is just Dan Bogino. And this account is just to debunk things in real time so it can be extra fast or something. It's the same speed as all other Twitter. So I don't get it. But maybe- And it always tries and everybody mobbed it. That's it. So it did the same thing to Tucker. And then the second tweet they did, what they were trying to basically poke up, was this crazy gal that you've had her on to. And we've had this ongoing beef about it. She basically thinks the thing she's discovered is much bigger than it is. And she thinks that it's national prominence or international sort of

3:28:20 relevance is way higher than it actually is. And then the FBI went and boosted that. This is a former OnlyFans model who's now hunting down like child pornography. I was talking to Steve Friend this morning on my podcast and he goes, just for your awareness, 100% of the child pornographers that you get an excuse from say that they were doing research on child pornography. It's a super dangerous thing to touch. That's why they let federal law enforcement do it. And if you want to go out and find child pornographers, go into law enforcement. There's actually a role for it. You can get dispensation to go find bad guys. If you're a private researcher, you're walking on a line that's going to end up in a federal prison if they do their job. So anyway, that's my caution. Oh, you don't want to have the Democrats try to set us up with child porn.

3:29:01 I couldn't even, I told the crew we're not looking at it because we're not even going to defend ourselves. This is, and the FBI gave us a letter saying we were the victims, but I mean, it's like, I was like, we're not touching this. Yeah, no, it's totally radioactive stuff. And why would you go near that if you don't have a charter and a mandate? I mean, they have all these safeguards that go on where people who are working on that for the FBI, they get interviewed every six months and they do like a mental check and make sure they're okay. Because it's really damaging to see small children get destroyed and their lives be ruined and you're seeing it on video or something. So I have friends that have worked in those departments for a long time. One of my buddies was one of their top analysts for something like eight years. I don't know how they do it.

3:29:38 I don't know how he does it either. He's the most even keel guy you've ever seen. He's got little kids and he's just like super mellow and you must have a certain kind of grace given by God to be able to do that. To have somebody that was just looking for attention is gross. And that's what the FBI went out and tweeted. So they're melting down, we're seeing it in real time. And this pipe bomber reaction behind the scenes, it's very similar to what you saw in front of the scenes because the whistleblower that went to Congress was sharing information about the pipe bomb investigation going back almost five years now. And the answer should be, yeah, we want to know where we screwed up. We're like, that's about normal humility. And every time you do an investigation, you have certain assumptions, you have certain beliefs, and then you go and you investigate. And as you find evidence or you have to broaden your scope, you may have to reassess what your underlying assumptions are. And if your underlying assumptions- I have a hunch from all my knowledge, and a lot of times I'm right, but I don't skew my views. A lot of times I'm wrong. I go with what's there.

CHAPTER 37 / 39 Discussion

Geofence Warrants, Law Enforcement Exclusions, and Biometrics

Serafin reads from a congressional report stating that 51 phone numbers were excluded from the pipe bomber investigation because they belonged to law enforcement. He argues that "gate analysis" is a standard biometric tool used by the government and that the FBI's refusal to use it in this case is suspicious. The suspect identified by Steve Baker reportedly has a distinct gait consistent with a known injury.

geofence· fbi· capitol police· gate analysis· biometrics

3:30:31 I'm gonna pull something up here cuz I wanted to read it. You said a couple of videos too, but go ahead. Well, this is something I'm just gonna read off. This came from Loudermilk's summary from January of 2025. So this was the committee that Loudermilk was putting out there. And this is a direct quote, one of the followers on X clipped it for me. It says, by early February of 2021, the FBI had identified 186 phone numbers of interest derived from the FBI's analysis. from the geofence warrant they got, probably Google, and then also the tower dumps from the cellular towers. Okay? And then they broke down for the committee what they did. 36 of these numbers were assigned to agents and they had follow-up interviews. 98 of these were given additional investigative steps, which means they needed to find more about what it was. Here's one for you, Alex. 51 of these numbers were identified as not needing further action because these phones belong to law enforcement officers or persons on the exclusion list.

3:31:19 Now that is based on an assumption and the assumption is that somebody who's in law enforcement didn't do this thing. Now, if you have to start broadening your scope and you have five years of goose eggs, maybe you start changing some of your underlying assumptions and say, is it possible that somebody in law enforcement was the problem? Now Steve Baker's subject that they've identified is someone in law enforcement and lives with someone in law enforcement, particularly the Capitol Police. So if that's the case-. Someone that shot people first on Jan 6th with rubber bullets. And testify to it.

3:32:05 And then the gate analysis is significant amounts of video of this woman on January 6th after January 6th before that walking around the Capitol with a right leg limp. Can I pull you to a, this is kind of going out of sequence from what I told you guys, but there's a Washington Post article entitled how the FBI's massive search for the DC pipe bomber stalled. It just came out this morning. Actually, hold on. Yeah, you do. So Aaron C Davis is the writer, and he's promoting his book called Injustice. And he and another woman from Washington Post wrote it. But if you roll down to the middle of the story, they go through kind of like the analysis of what they did and what's going on with this subject has been named and so on and so forth. And if you get below sort of some of these pictures, they show you some alleyway footage and this kind of thing. You can probably even do like a targeted search for the word gate. And suddenly you realize,

3:33:00 Last week, several Republican lawmakers latched onto a claim, and they published in a conservative news outlet, The Blaze, that a quote-unquote, gate analysis suggested the person captured on the security videos was a former Capitol Police officer. And so that's kind of interesting. And you say, okay, fine, that's what happened. Then you find out, that the actual investigation being done in 2021 landed them on somebody very specific. And that person had a peculiar, what they called an odd gate, which was seen on the security footage to the point where they actually went after a gym employee. And it says the process led to agents to a gym employee who lived in the zone that the FBI had pulled cell phones from operating the night before the attack. The person came under further scrutiny when he initially lied to the agents about a leg injury.

3:33:45 According to people playing this investigation. But let's be clear, they're able to take gate analysis, cross-reference medical records or whatever, who has a gate problem, go the gym employee, but because they couldn't look at law enforcement, the AI was blocked from looking at who else had the gate. Yeah, I don't know if they just excluded law enforcement from the beginning, like I said, once your basic assumptions are incorrect, but the funny thing is the FBI... Well, you said it blocked out the metadata on law enforcement. On the phones, yeah. And so did they also exclude any of these other things? But the fact is, is the woman that Steve Baker has identified has a pronounced gait. She has a right leg drag on the right side from an injury that happened while she was a professional soccer player. Notice they try to say it's not true, but they're not publicly responding a week later.

3:34:23 And what they've tried to say is that gait analysis is not something that people use, but we know that it is because you can actually read this story and find out that in fact they honed in on people based on owning a pair of shoes and gait. I remember gait analysis in like 2003 that it studies like 99%. Now they're saying it's 94. Did it get worse or better? No, this particular match because the person was wearing obscuring clothing. But yeah, it's used in every airport in America right now as a biometric. It's used on battlefields. It's used by the Defense Information Systems Agency, which does all the biometrics for the Pentagon, and it does it for DOD assets. And the idea was, is are there things about you that are not your fingerprint? Your walk is even better than your fingerprint.

3:35:03 It's specific to the length of your different bones, which are going to be unique to you, the hip flexion that you can do, which is going to be your cumulative kind of wear and tear on the chassis. Yeah, your length of stride, your variability in cadence, you know, and all these other kind of little things, the bend of your knee and so on. And so if you have injuries or if you have wear and tear, if you're a certain age, if you're male and female, you move differently through time and space with a specific form and figure. And if you can see that, then you can measure out where the skull is. Some people walk elegantly or like a ballerina, I walk like a gorilla. It's just, it's just, you know. That's factually true. You do walk like a gorilla. Everybody says it. I talked to Chase the other day, he said exactly that. So long and short of it is we all have this particular gate and the idea that somebody would say, well, gate analysis is not something that the FBI would use or law enforcement use. It doesn't mean it's the only thing that you would use.

3:35:47 But then you start evaluating, okay, if someone has a gate match and they were in the physical space of, I mean, this is not like a gate match and somebody was in California. You could throw that out. But this person lives in Northern Virginia and works at the Capitol and was at the Capitol the next day. And they have some interest in this. So let's move into the big issue. How long can this last? Where this is going? You got all these Congress people on it. You got a rapid reaction force set up. It's getting worse. Yeah, it's getting worse and a new thing just came out today that I think is actually gonna make all of this way worse. I'm gonna throw something. So this is all fun. So ProPublica put out a story. I talked to the reporter who does it and then Will Turton and he was working with Chris Bing. And they wrote a story that said essentially four of some of the top people in the FBI and that's Bongino,

CHAPTER 38 / 39 Discussion

Kash Patel, Security Waivers, and MI5 Meeting

A ProPublica report reveals that Kash Patel granted security clearance waivers to himself and others, skipping standard polygraph tests. Serafin details a meeting in London where Patel reportedly showed up in a hoodie and trucker hat to meet with the head of MI5. Patel is also accused of bringing his girlfriend into classified meetings with British intelligence officials.

kash patel· mi5· london· security clearance· polygraph

3:35:03 It's specific to the length of your different bones, which are going to be unique to you, the hip flexion that you can do, which is going to be your cumulative kind of wear and tear on the chassis. Yeah, your length of stride, your variability in cadence, you know, and all these other kind of little things, the bend of your knee and so on. And so if you have injuries or if you have wear and tear, if you're a certain age, if you're male and female, you move differently through time and space with a specific form and figure. And if you can see that, then you can measure out where the skull is. Some people walk elegantly or like a ballerina, I walk like a gorilla. It's just, it's just, you know. That's factually true. You do walk like a gorilla. Everybody says it. I talked to Chase the other day, he said exactly that. So long and short of it is we all have this particular gate and the idea that somebody would say, well, gate analysis is not something that the FBI would use or law enforcement use. It doesn't mean it's the only thing that you would use.

3:35:47 But then you start evaluating, okay, if someone has a gate match and they were in the physical space of, I mean, this is not like a gate match and somebody was in California. You could throw that out. But this person lives in Northern Virginia and works at the Capitol and was at the Capitol the next day. And they have some interest in this. So let's move into the big issue. How long can this last? Where this is going? You got all these Congress people on it. You got a rapid reaction force set up. It's getting worse. Yeah, it's getting worse and a new thing just came out today that I think is actually gonna make all of this way worse. I'm gonna throw something. So this is all fun. So ProPublica put out a story. I talked to the reporter who does it and then Will Turton and he was working with Chris Bing. And they wrote a story that said essentially four of some of the top people in the FBI and that's Bongino,

3:36:37 And I'm gonna, did they say Bongino and Patel? I have to double check here. Patel, okay, Patel granted the waiver, Bongino and two other people. So I think Patel also didn't get a background check in the same way. They skipped the polygraph part of their security clearance, which is highly unusual. And they skipped them for two people. One's name is Nicole Rucker. She used to work for Stephen Miller. And so She didn't have a background check polygraph or it came back inconclusive and something weird. So they reported on this and the other person is a guy named Marshall Yates. And here's where I find that interesting. Marshall Yates is a former congressional staffer and he used to work in Tom Massey's office. And now he is the congressional liaison for the FBI. He's the assistant director of congressional affairs. So he's the go between between the FBI and members of Congress. Why would you have a polygraph if you got something to hide?

3:37:25 There's no great reason for it. I mean, polygraphs are famously a pain in the ass for anybody who's done them. If you've ever had to sit for a poly, it's a, it's not fun. It's like a, you know, it's like getting a root canal. You don't look forward to it, but at the end of the day, you say, would you have, you tell them your dark secrets or whatever it may be. You just out, whatever it is, you know, you got away with a cashing a check twice or something, or maybe you walked out with a cart full of groceries and nobody ever caught you. Whatever it is, you just say it and then you just move on and they don't generally care. When I did it, I told them I used to break into buildings when I was younger and sneak into like abandoned buildings. And they're like, dude, did you ever rob a bank? And I was like, no. They go, did you ever kill anybody and get away with it? I go, no. And they go, that's what we care about. It's like, dude, I just told you what I did. You asked me what I broke the law. That's the laws I broke when I was a teenager.

3:38:05 So, you know, it's not fun, but you do it. Marshall Yates, who's now the congressional liaison for the FBI. He works at FBI. He's an assistant director. He's a special executive service member. And he tells Congress what they can and can't have from the Bureau. He used to work for Tom Massey on the same committee that generated that report I was reading from. And he was the pipe bomb expert for Tom Massey. And he didn't get a polygraph for some reason. Yeah, so they're contacting him to get intel on what Congress does.

3:38:45 And he's been stonewalling them. He's been part of the problem behind the scenes significantly. And I've been hearing about this for literally months now. And then the story breaks. I think there's gonna be another story that is related to that, that I can't quite just display yet. But over the weekend, you guys will see there's some whistleblowers coming forward on this stuff. Because when Tom Massey said, if you have something to share about what's going wrong in the FBI, you can reach out to Kurt Suzdak, you can reach out to my office, and we'll get you in touch. And we'll get you protection and they actually are running top cover for the first time because the bureau tried to go hunt these people We're seeing some disclosures come forward that are incredibly damn They're trying to get the old manager that would know where the bodies are buried Well, you just want people that know when something is not normal if you've been doing it and if you got punished for asking a question It does make you ask some more questions 35,000 foot view

3:39:30 We're trying to, I know in your view, I'm not speaking for you, but in my, I've talked before, we're trying to help Trump. He's got to clean this up. This crisis every week just gets worse. I mean, where will he be in two weeks at this trajectory? This is insane. I mean, it's getting frenzy, Dallas. I mean, Jack Mattel is a disaster. So I gave you guys the New York Times story and this is something that broke at the beginning of the week. And I didn't even realize how bad it was until I got to the bottom because some of this stuff is professional incompetence and some of it goes to a deeper problem of personality. So 35,000 foot view, I think Hash Patel loves being FBI director. I think he does it because it makes him feel good about himself and he's fully affirmed that he's one of the cool guys right now and he acts like a complete dickhead when he does it. And I'm just gonna be very blunt about that.

3:40:14 on the other side, I think he hates the job. I think he's miserable and I don't think that he's going to be able to do it. I don't think he's good at it. And so he's destroying his credibility just by proxy to this other guy who's acting like a buffoon. Well, yeah, every FBI person and scream at journalists that just question. That's what happens when your reputation is going into flames. Imagine you spent a decade building up a media persona and you're out there, set yourself up. I can't imagine he's happy with the way that Patel has just left him with all the work and is screwing it up. But this New York Times story, I wanna skip to the end of it. I'll kinda give you guys the quick and dirty. Patel flew to London and he had a meeting which is common with what's called the Five Eyes partners. So there are five closest intelligence partners. You're saying he now broke a pledge.