EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW: "WHAT THEY TOLD US ABOUT CHARLIE KIRK'S ASSASSINATION IS WRONG!" Evidence Indicates That There Was Another Shooter At A Different Vantage Point & Angle Who Killed Kirk

00:00 We need more information. We need the videos from the stairwells, from the UVU cameras, from the TPUSA cameras. We need the audio from Charlie Kirk's mic. We don't have any of that. We don't have an autopsy. So what we're going on is a little thin. But what they told us, I can prove, is wrong. I think, right? And that is that a gentleman named Tyler Robinson was sitting on a roof and took a shot with a .30-06. Now how that rifle got to the roof, we don't know. They say, oh, he must have disassembled it, stuffed the pieces, the stock and the barrel down into his pants, but you as a shooter would know this. You would never reassemble a long bore rifle like that with a bunch of screws and think that it was going to be anything close to zeroed in when you got there. But we'll leave that aside. Total bull. Total bull. Total bull.

00:44 Yeah, so if I could start here, this is the tent that Charlie was sitting under. He was just under that apex right there. This is in that UVU courtyard and it steps up those grass steps in concrete pieces. This is where they said he was on the edge of the Losey building. There's an area circled there. You maybe could sort of see a little stuff there, but when we dial in, you can see they have a bunch of evidence tags here showing where there was some imprints, putatively because somebody was lying down, elbows and knees in a shooting position. But we can see here the overall angle from here down to the 10th. There's a shot. There's absolutely a shot you can take there, no question about it. The problem we have with that is

01:25 These are those indents a little closer. The problem we have with that angle of the chute is that it just can't work out. First off, it's about a 10 degree downslope. So flat, zero degree would be you're on flat ground, I'm on flat ground, we have a zero degree slope. Given that angle, it's about 140 yards, I've measured it. that's 10 degrees down. Also not straight on Charlie, but just about 10 degrees off, just a little off. So we're coming in at what we're calling a 10 and 10. It's just, it's actually 90. So it's not enough of an angle from higher up that could potentially ricochet off and go down into the body.

02:01 I just don't think so because this red dot here shows this is a frame right before Charlie was shot. That's right about exactly where that hole appeared in his neck. That's the softest part of the neck right there. You don't even have a windpipe like this is soft and first off just the 10 degree down slope it misses every bone. It would go through and through so from every angle we look at this it's going to miss everything. More importantly When we look at it from where it was, it was way off axis over here. This would be on axis straight up center. It was here. Would have come out between the C7 and T1 vertebrae. It would have blown straight through. There is nothing but soft tissue there. So also the 10 degree off axis, it would have to come in from about 40 or 50 degrees to hit the spine, which is what they said. But even if it was 30, 60, 200 yards hit the spine, it would vaporize and blow the whole neck off.

02:53 It would, it absolutely would and people have run that test over and over again in ballistic gel, this and that. But at this angle, the 10 and 10, it doesn't hit anything, it's just soft neck, probably about 5 inches. You can look at hundreds of ballistic gel shots or people shooting hams. It won't matter. Nothing changes in a 30-06 in the first six inches. And here's the theory. So we know that a bullet landed in his body if we believe that cavitation event, we believe that he was instantly dead. He had that that decorticate posturing that speaks of a violent insult. We saw that this is graphic, but when he did bleed, you know, he's shot and it takes a couple of frames, but then you see all this blood. But you see if you watch it carefully, it spills out.

03:34 it doesn't spurt out. So if his heart was still pumping and his carotid artery was hit, that stuff's going two, three feet. It doesn't. I think it takes a beat because what happens is he has this huge insult, it explodes, it pushes that blood back up into his head and then it drains out but it's not spurting out. So that looks like a venous dump. So okay, so we've established he's shot. So now we have to account for what are some physical geometries, where could he have been shot from that would match what we need to see? I think the minimum angle would be about 20 degrees, so I've drawn a 20 degree line on here with my magic protractor. This comes down into his body. Why 20 degrees? Because it lands below, on this angle, below that thoracic vertebrae. If it's above that, his arms aren't moving anymore, okay? So it has to be at least at this steep of an angle on a downslope. That puts it clearly down into his chest cavity. When you were talking, Alex, about how the doctor had allegedly said that it bounced down and crushed these.

04:35 here, that's the minimum angle that would get us here. 20 degrees. Plus, we have to be off axis a bit. 40-45 degrees gets us to a point where we're actually hitting the spine and not just coming out to the side of the spine. So it has to be both a steeper side angle, a steeper down angle. So this sort of comports if he's shot from this other building, this is where they said the shooter was, was way up here, straight coming down this way. If we put somebody over here, okay. Now was anybody there? I don't have any video evidence of that. So we would love to see anybody sitting to Charlie's right who may have been filming up this way, particularly anybody over here filming this direction. That would be highly valuable.

05:16 But we have this a couple of stills from a video that was shot from right here. Somebody was at this position to Charlie's left and when the shot rang out they swung their camera around a little bit and they came over here and I want to draw your attention to cowboy hat guy in red shirt guy where they are pointing they are pointing exactly at this position right here when you triangulate this red arrow shows you the direction he's pointing he didn't point here he's pointing here for some reason The government fears Alex Jones, who has the largest audience in the country, bigger than any of the networks, the biggest megaphone in the country. The deep state hates Alex Jones with a vengeance. Alex Jones is the most extraordinary person I've ever met. All right, ladies and gentlemen, I have been called a trillion times a conspiracy theorist by the corporate media. Maybe that's exaggeration a billion times. I mean, you just constantly, there's thousands of articles a day.

06:17 And that term was developed in 1963, early 64, was later declassified in the 70s, in the Senate Frank Church Committee hearing 76-77-78. The CIA created that term when you can't argue with the facts, just say, oh, they're conspiracy theorists. Well, like Elon Musk said a few years ago, we need new conspiracy theories, because they all came true. Well, they were already true. But in the past, most of the public still bought into whatever official stories were. And that made it really easy for the deep state corporations, corrupt groups to get away with a lot. But now because there's so much understanding and people know what to look for, there's so many investigators online, some credible, some not, some that mean well, some that don't mean well. We all make mistakes. But there's so much focus now and so many cameras and so much metadata that it's really hard

07:12 the deep state and groups to get away with things, they get caught. So now they mainly go to provocative operations or they'll piggyback on somebody else that they've got wound up to do something. But three weeks ago today, if I'd have come on air day one and said Israel did it, we'd had billions of views and we'd be a hero. If I would have said, when the one of the security guys goes under his arm and they say it's a gun, we blew it up, looks like a cell phone. People were mad at me for People were mad at me for not coming out and saying, no, that guy's the killer. And then they had another guy behind him to an angle. They say it looks like one of those cell phone guns and you blow it up. It looks to me like a bottle of water and he's screwing the top off. So you've got all that, but that doesn't mean I buy into the official story. And it took time to ferret through it and have a ballistics experts on and Navy SEALs and Delta Force and Green Berets, you see them every day on, none of them.

08:16 None of them or their communities. So we're talking about thousands of people in the aggregate, none of them by the official story. And then you've got what looks like a chat GPT letter to his boyfriend and you've got all the time code inconsistencies and then the bullet that we only learned about that a week and a half ago, two Saturdays ago that goes 30 on six goes in and bounces off at 200 yards off of his Spinal cord that is basically impossible and I've been a big game hunter. I mean, but anybody knows that I mean I've shot elk at 300 400 yards with 30 on 60 right to the side and it comes out

08:54 Well, 30 on six on the top of shot one once three giant holes, you know, the bullet broke up but like a four inch two inch one inch gone elk falls over. Send it with 300 wind mags. So I know that that's impossible in my view to hit somebody in the neck. Now they said, well, it went down and then bounce back up, but we better get this autopsy. Was there one? Wasn't there one? They say there is, we better get see the bullet, but how do we know? So talking to so many experts out there, Our next guest information, you know, just comes up over and over again. And I've actually got his bio right over here. I had a family emergency, so I was literally like skidding into home plate here. It's about 15 minutes ago. And that's Chris Martinson.

09:40 And he has a PhD in pathology, toxology from Duke University, an MBA from Cornell, is a best-selling author, writer, and proprietor of Peak Prosperity website, a community which is dedicated to performing rock-solid analysis and helping people become prepared for what is about to happen next. Peakprosperity.com. And so he's been on before, highly respected, but... Talking to so many people I respect they say dr. Chris Martinson he he has the best analysis So I'm gonna try to as best I can give him the floor to start wherever he wants He's gonna have control with his own video feed to show you these exhibits But now three weeks in we know a lot more and I think we know this if I'm wrong doctor We're being fed a line of bull

10:23 Which then becomes a fertile ground for whatever the latest theory is. We'll try to hone in on the reality. For me, we always look at who benefits and I think it's important to look at both. But we need to find out actually what hit him, the specifics of who really shot him. Then we can start tracking who to blame. There's obviously a lot of different groups that would stand to gain. The DNC, the RNC wanted to take control of the organization. I'm not saying they did. Israel certainly is capable of these type of activities. Could it be a Soros group? I mean, who knows? We'll let Dr. Chris Martinson give his analysis on this from every angle. So, Doc, thanks for being here with us. We really appreciate the time.

11:05 Hey Alex, it's so great to be back with you again. I think the last time was around the Butler shooting. So this isn't my first rodeo analyzing these sorts of events and I have to say that I think that they learned something from the Butler side because we don't have that many videos to work with. We're working with a real paucity of information if I could just right up front. We need more information. We need the videos from the stairwells, from the UVU cameras, from the TPUSA cameras. We need the audio from Charlie Kirk's mic. We don't We don't have any of that. We don't have an autopsy. So what we're going on is a little thin. But what they told us, I can prove, is wrong. I think. Right? And that is that a gentleman named Tyler Robinson was sitting on a roof and took a shot with a .30-06. Now how that rifle got to the roof, we don't know. They say, oh, he must have disassembled it, stuffed the pieces, the stock and the barrel down into his pants. But you as a shooter would know this. You would never reassemble

11:58 a long bore rifle like that with a bunch of screws and think that it was going to be anything close to zeroed in when you got there, but we'll leave that aside. Total bull. Total bull. Yeah. So if I could start here, this is the tent that Charlie was sitting under. He was just under that apex right there. This is in that UVU courtyard and it steps up those grass steps in concrete pieces. This is where they said he was on the edge of the Losey building. There's an area circled there. You maybe could sort of see a little stuff there, but when we dialed in, you can see they have a bunch of evidence tags here showing where there was some imprints, putatively because somebody was lying down, elbows and knees in a shooting position. But we can see here the overall angle from here down to the 10th. There's a shot. There's absolutely a shot you can take there, no question about it. The problem we have with that is

12:50 These are those indents a little closer. The problem we have with that angle of the chute is that it just can't work out. First off, it's about a 10 degree downslope. So flat, zero degree would be you're on flat ground, I'm on flat ground, we have a zero degree slope. Given that angle, it's about 140 yards, I've measured it, and that's 10 degrees down. Also not straight on Charlie, but just about 10 degrees off, just a little off. So we're coming in at what we're calling a 10 and 10. It's just, it's actually 90 degrees. So it's not enough of an angle from higher up that could potentially ricochet off and go down into the body.

13:26 I just don't think so because this red dot here shows this is a frame right before Charlie was shot. That's right about exactly where that hole appeared in his neck. That's the softest part of the neck right there. You don't even have a windpipe like this is soft and first off just the 10 degree down slope it misses every bone. It would go through and through so from every angle we look at this it's going to miss everything. More importantly When we look at it from where it was, it was way off axis over here. This would be on axis straight up center. It was here. Would have come out between the C7 and T1 vertebrae. It would have blown straight through. There is nothing but soft tissue there. So also the 10 degree off axis, it would have to come in from about 40 or 50 degrees to hit the spine, which is what they said. But even if it was 30, 60, 200 yards hit the spine, it would vaporize and blow the whole neck off.

14:18 It would. It absolutely would and people have run that test over and over again in ballistic gel, this and that. But at this angle, the 10 and 10, it doesn't hit anything. It's just soft neck, probably about five inches. You can look at hundreds of ballistic gel shots or people shooting hams. It won't matter. Nothing changes in a 30-06 in the first six inches. Now I've had people tell me, hey Chris, I was a battlefield medic, bullets do weird things. But if we could be very clear about this, bullets do weird things at the terminal end of their trajectory. When they first come in, they have all their foot pounds of energy. They just come slamming right in. Later, when they've bled off a lot of that energy, now they're free to sort of hit a bone or follow some muscle group or do some weird stuff. But bullets, when they're going to do weird things in bodies, they do it at the end of their trajectory, the terminal phase. Well, sure. I mean, I don't want to sound gratuitous, but

15:12 I used to hunt a lot and I just because of fighting globalists I basically quit and never hunt maybe once here with my dad we go to a deer stand. I used to shoot hundreds of animals a year. I mean, give them to charity and everything else. But I've gone down game ranches in San Antonio and stuff, and then we donate to the homeless thing. And I mean, I've shot 15 mountain goats in a day, you name it, at 300, 400, 500 yards, out there driving around on 12,000 acre ranches in Jeeps. So I've shot buffalo, I've shot zebras, I've shot it all. And I'm just telling you, I mean, it's ridiculous. A 300-win mag or 30-odd six, you shoot a zebra, you shoot a buffalo, it goes through buffalo. And the thing is, we've seen when they butcher them, and I've butchered, you know, sent a lot of stuff myself, but not the big animals. He's like a tractor to haul up a buffalo. But they'll show you while they're butchering, these ranchers using these incredible Hispanic butchers are the fastest I've ever seen. They'll say, look at the bullets, you know, Senor, and they'll show you.

16:08 But we know through a neck, through even a big bone, a 30-odd-six, 200 yards, if it only hit that one big bone, it would still go right through it. I'm sorry I'm ranting. It's just not true to say that a 30-odd-six could hit in the neck and bounce off a damn neck vertebrae. It's preposterous. Sorry, I'm ranting. and it would have gone clean through. And this for a .30-06, it won't even think about that. It'll just pass right through. If you see this bone here, well this is the spinal column. This is kind of a solid bone here, but these little things on the side are called tubercles. They're insignificant bones. Nothing, absolutely nothing would have happened on a 10 degree shot into this neck except that bullet would have gone through and through. But

17:07 Here's the thing, we did see him go into this decorticate positioning where his right hand came up, that speaks to a midbrain injury so we have to account for that. And I still have a conclusion though that the bullet, a bullet did stop in Charlie's body, it just couldn't have been shot from that place where they're telling us the shot was taken from. And the reason is we have this one video where you can see here two things, this is I've drawn a neck line around Charlie here. I've taken two frames, lined them up exactly pixel for pixel, and I put that same mark down here and you can see this huge over-expansion. You can see his neck is completely swelled out, his chest is swelled out. We saw that his necklace came flying up around, so something had to throw that necklace. I posit it was that chest expansion.

17:54 You did hear people very quickly talk about an exploding Mike, but Alex, you know explosions. How does something explode and still be in frame because explosions are 20-30,000 feet per second, right? But you can't have an explosion and have the thing still be in the frame. It just doesn't work that way. And wouldn't it eject it the other direction from the blast? Wouldn't it shoot the other direction? Yeah, and you know we saw this during the Pager explosions in Lebanon, right? They make a big mess. His t-shirt would have been ripped and on fire or burnt because explosions happen with a lot of that stuff. So here we can see

18:30 This is just taking those two frames, so you're just flipping back and forth so we can watch. We'll go from one to the next, from one... This is before the shot, this is the first frame after the shot, and it's just easy to appreciate. Look how much expansion there is, how... how much he cavitated is the actual term for this. So it seems pretty clear to me that there was a pretty violent event. His head isn't being knocked backwards. If he was hit in the back of his spine, his whole body would have been thrown backwards as you know from the force of that. What happened instead was we see his whole body expand like this. So- That generally means like Kennedy shot from the front, his head goes back into the-

19:12 Yes. And here, so this, you're saying just the obvious body motion looks like he's being shot from where? I'm going to have to say it's coming in with a really steep angle. It has to come in because it's landing in his body and to get there, this is the Mitchell X. Look at this, the high speed. This is a 300 blackout, doesn't have near the force of a 30-06, but it shows very nicely what happens, which is that cavitation event that happens when a high-speed round lands in something like this is ballistic gel meant to mirror a human body. You see that huge overexpansion? That's because the bullet's dumping all of its many hundreds if not thousands of pounds, foot-pounds of energy into

19:54 liquid and liquids hate to expand so what do they do they go and they create this is called a cavitation bubble boom now you need this this is about a 1 1,000th of a second thing so you have to have very high-speed photography I think it was completely fortuitous that we had a single frame that caught at least part of that process but it's very clear we can see that expansion in his neck and so what do you make of the surgeon and saying I mean, we don't, we don't, the surgeons, I don't think he's looking in on it. So he says, oh, 30 odd 60 is the official story. It goes in, bounces off the vertebra, goes down through the vertebra and then bounces back up. So he's just trying to comport the official story into what he saw. But then where, I know you're going through the evidence, but where does this all point?

20:44 So because of that cavitation of a high-speed rifle round, best guess it was a rifle round, went into his body. And so now we have to account for some shooting physics, some angles that could actually make that happen. The only way that can happen is if he's shot here in the neck, it has to come in from a much steeper angle and... Sure, you just proven that wouldn't be from the roof, that's like a 10 degree. And so that would fit with what the surgeon said. And but then now where could someone shoot him at that angle? And then and then if it came in here and then well then well then why did the surgeon said there was another bullet hole? I if there's another bullet hole, I haven't heard that yet. All I've heard about the surgeon is hearsay. I think that was Colbert Colvett who said that. But so I haven't heard anything directly. I haven't seen an autopsy report. I don't believe anybody. We're all operating off of what the spokesman literally when I

21:38 responded to him ten minutes after he posted his thing two Saturdays ago. Saying oh, he's a man of steel. It just went in and went, you know, and he says I don't wanna get too graphic here. He's gonna upset people He literally calls me 45 minutes after I did a post saying I don't buy this. He was very nice And then gave me more of what the surgeon said, but I totally agree with you. Dr. Martin said we need to get what have you heard about the autopsy? We hear the dispatcher saying no autopsy when she comes get the body, but now we're hearing from TPUSA There will be one and later in October Well, I mean the dispatcher might have been saying they're not going to do the autopsy at the hospital. That's entirely possible. They were just trying to communicate that they were going to transport the body. But you got a sign of death certificate. Yeah, he saw the death certificate though.

22:25 Yeah, so listen that part's really shaky I don't have a lot to go on there but I can almost definitively at this point rule out being shot from the front because there's zero chance you know this. I hope your listeners figure this out. A bullet doesn't just magically start going different directions because it enters a body. With that first bullet, assuming it's a relatively standard 30-06 hunting round which it probably was if that's what it was, it's carrying about two 2,200 foot-pounds of energy. That means if I had a 2,200 pound block and I dropped it from a foot, clunk, that's a ton, right? That's how much power this has. So bullets do not do goofy things when they have all of their initial energy. Yeah, for folks that don't know, smaller calibers like 5.56,

23:14 Can turn quicker and start tumbling once they hit bone, but with 30 odd six and bigger calibers like that that are Magnum rounds Yeah, it usually if you're not at a thousand yards, it's still going super fast But 200 it's at maximum speed 25 2800 when they go in It goes through big bones and then then starts to break up later. But usually you'll hit a big bone and And it'll still only expand maybe to an inch or so. Then it starts breaking up after it's expended its energy, but still there's such that cavity you're talking about, such a blast force that it just blows right through. I mean, I'm talking about through Buffalo, through you name it. So this is one of the most powerful rounds when you start getting into that super magnum scale. And all the hunters, everybody knows this is just horse crap. It is absolutely...

24:02 Again, anybody knows you shoot somebody 200 yards with standard round, standard load 30-06. If you hit them right perfectly in the vertebrae, the thickest part, you've got that tiny hole in the front and a 30-06 is so high powered it wouldn't even have time to open up. So I would imagine an inch and a half, two inch hole in the back because the bullet's going to come out in a mushroom but not broken up yet. I mean, I'm telling you, I don't think it would even begin to break up shooting through a neck. It's just, it's total BS. Yeah, and of course we haven't seen any pictures of the remaining two cartridges in the putative gun that they found wrapped in a towel conveniently nearby. If we could see those now we could start making some more guesses and more informed decisions about things. If it was full metal jacket, like if he had standard like ball rounds that the military use, I personally with an M1 Garand have holes right through 14 inch pine trees using ball ammo.

24:51 trees don't even stop that. Right. Nope, goes straight on through. 14-inch trees, personal knowledge, but you can see videos of that too. Penetration is extraordinary on the Bolle ammo. So, how do we account for that cavitation? A bullet obviously struck him. He was dead almost instantly because he went into that decorticate posturing, that pugilist pose, within five frames. That's like a tenth of a second. He's just like, oh, he's out, lights out. So that fits with the sergeant's story that it took out his spine.

25:28 If it did, it had to take out the spine below the thoracic one level because if it took out the spine above that in his neck anywhere, he's now flaccid. There would be no muscle tone because those nerves would be destroyed. So that's out. So that's what the surgeon was saying is according to TBSCA, was he even listed all that? He said it went down far in the vertebra. Well, that tells us that that's great. So we have a wound channel now somewhere from here has to be able to hit somewhere in a way down here. And that gives us an angle. So he was shot from the left at a very high angle, cannot have been shot from the position they told us he was shot from. Full stop. Well, that's what I said. I'm literally, literally was going to pick up my daughter from my parents' house and I shot the video in the car while she was waiting. And I just instantly saw what he said. And I said, well, there's no way it came at a 10 degree or whatever angle and did that.

26:26 And so then they call and go, oh no, no, no, no. And he goes, I don't want you to say this. I said, well, I have to. I wasn't writing notes, but he described all the vertebrae. They said it came in, glanced down, because it was at an angle. And then he said, went through, he listed like five or six vertebrae. And then he said, exploded into the heart, and then bounced back up into the neck. And that's where, but then is that a piece of the bullet? And So, again, that's what I was told. I really think they need to sign a medical release form and I think we should see this surgeon come out and speak, don't you?

27:08 Well, absolutely and we need to see the x-rays because look come on Alex. It's like that magic bullet in the Kennedy thing, right? This bullet allegedly goes through Kennedy's neck, tumbles around, smashes Connolly's thigh and then is found on the gurney completely unmolested his whole unit. That's just not how these things work. So if this was a hunting round of some kind, wasn't ball ammo, well it's gonna be in fragments if it did that much damage to the spine. It just, that's just It's gonna be leaving pieces. Now maybe they found a big chunk of it and they're calling that the bullet, but if they find an intact bullet that magically went all the way tumbling through his body and bounced back up and isn't destroyed...

27:45 I'm gonna be very suspicious, I think you would too. It just doesn't make any sense. But a lot of things in this story just don't make sense. And I've been hearing from people that they think they have video evidence, but nobody seems to be interested in it. It's just like the FBI washing down the hose with the hose, the roof of that thing in Butler the next day. It's just there's things here that you wouldn't do during a normal course of an active investigation unless you were absolutely positive you had the perp and there was nothing more to be learned. But-

30:49 And the left was calling for Charlie's death, they celebrated his death. And we just had weeks before that, on record, one of these demons shooting up the Catholic Children's Mass in Minneapolis, Minnesota. So I was like, okay, I mean, I don't wanna believe that this government is as corrupt and crazy as the ones we've had in the past. You have the same group that tried to kill Trump and Butler. We know there were two shooters there. We got an expert on about that right now. I was like, I mean, I certainly didn't see it as the Trump administration. And then to say Israel just because he was having a fracas with them. I mean, is Israel capable of that? Is Netanyahu? I think so. But I just can't say, not only do we not know the truth of what happened, but we know who did it and who's behind it. That's just not how you investigate. We're actually trying to be credible here, despite what the corporate

31:40 You know, media has tried to say about us in the past. I tell you though, there's such a loss of faith in the government and the media period that No one I know, not just all the military experts, the ballistics experts, buys any of this. And I think it was healthy to question and look at it all. But I think we now have more questions than answers. But I think it's clear what Dr. Chris Martinson is saying here from peakprosperity.com with all his great background in pathology and toxicology from Duke University and Cornell, that the official story is obviously not true, that he was shot from the roof. So then we have to ask, well, what's gonna happen with this trial?

32:20 and where's all that going? And then you have the weird chat GPT basic confession that hits every point if you wanted to convict him, and we're wanting to write a bulletproof, pun intended, conviction letter. So moving out from your scientist hat, and then get back into science, I'm gonna give you the floor here. Just, if you're sitting there talking to your wife and she's asking, what do you really think happened, honey? What do you tell her? that not only was he not shot from the position we were told he was shot from a different position. I know that there's been an absolute lack of interest in that apparent lack of interest in that from the official investigating authorities. We also know that this is sort of just a flavor of what happens, but somebody has been flooding the zone with

31:40 You know, media has tried to say about us in the past. I tell you though, there's such a loss of faith in the government and the media period that No one I know, not just all the military experts, the ballistics experts, buys any of this. And I think it was healthy to question and look at it all. But I think we now have more questions than answers. But I think it's clear what Dr. Chris Martinson is saying here from peakprosperity.com with all his great background in pathology and toxicology from Duke University and Cornell, that the official story is obviously not true, that he was shot from the roof. So then we have to ask, well, what's gonna happen with this trial?

32:20 and where's all that going? And then you have the weird chat GPT basic confession that hits every point if you wanted to convict him, and we're wanting to write a bulletproof, pun intended, conviction letter. So moving out from your scientist hat, and then get back into science, I'm gonna give you the floor here. Just, if you're sitting there talking to your wife and she's asking, what do you really think happened, honey? What do you tell her? that not only was he not shot from the position we were told he was shot from a different position. I know that there's been an absolute lack of interest in that apparent lack of interest in that from the official investigating authorities. We also know that this is sort of just a flavor of what happens, but somebody has been flooding the zone with

33:09 crackpot ideas. Now you opened earlier and you said exactly the right thing. Listen, we're all free to speculate. We get some things right. It's fast moving. That's all fine. But what I saw were some really bad ideas that just suddenly got really put forward and got put out there. And when you chase them down, it's It's just, it's a little bit dodgy. It looks more like a professional thing, like somebody with real agency and authority is interested in poisoning the well, right? They just flood the zone with bad ideas. So did you hear that the gun was disassembled? Did you hear that? Yes, of course. I did too and I tried to chase down where did I get that from? And it came from this guy, gun expert, Steve Wolf on News Nation on September 12th. So he says- How quickly, if it is broken down, cuz it doesn't look like he's jumping with a long rifle tucked in his leg. It looks like it's gotta be in that backpack. So how quickly could he break it down if he needed to break it down? A second or two.

34:12 What? Literally just push a button and wrap it around, push another button, wrap it back. They're designed to be able to be put into full length mode or compact. You saw the same, if there's another picture of another gun, please let me know. But this is the picture that was released, New York Post said that this is a crime scene photo. It's in an evidence box. There's no takedown kit on this. It's got a synthetic stock on there, but there's no button you can press. easy way to disassemble this. So how is it that they got this guy on TV and who is he anyway? Well, it turns out he's a Hollywood guy. He works for movies, TV shows, the firm, the client, ABC, NBC, PBS. So this guy starts this rumor that this thing is very easily disassembled, takes a second. And when I consult my actual experts like Mr. Guns and Gear and people who know a lot more about weapons than I do, and I know a bit,

35:05 They say no take down kit. It just doesn't exist. But that's part of the mythology that got out there and it ran with it and really polluted the story because now we have to start questioning, did he take it apart? When did he reassemble it? Did he take it apart, put it back on the roof, disassemble it on the roof, then reassemble it to put it in the bushes? That story is a hot mess. But I think I see what they're trying to do. They're trying to claim, because they don't have any images of this guy walking up onto the roof with a long gun. So now you have to account for, well, it had to be in pieces, I guess. So, they want to start this idea that it's easily disassembled. But if you've ever tried to disassemble a Mauser 98 or any other long barrel sporting rifle bolt action, there's about 3-4 screws depending on the model you're going to have to undo. The whole trigger guard is going to come out as an assembly with the scope and the rifle assembly. The mag well is going to have this spring that's going to be popping out, all that. It takes

35:56 a quality person 45, 60 seconds to just take it apart. Putting it back together a whole nother thing. But when you do that, you're not zeroed anymore, guaranteed, right? It just doesn't work out that way. So when we look at these feet, but they had to account for, you can't see a long gun in this thing. This guy jumping off the roof, which they said is our suspect. Oddly, they started that particular video at 12 23 and 34 seconds, which is after a few seconds after the shot. So why didn't they show us the video of the guy getting on the roof? Why don't they show us a video of the time the guy allegedly took the shot and running across the roof? Nope, they cut it right after the action started and they've given us zero videos of this guy walking up the stairwell onto the roof. A couple of grainy potato cam stills and that's where we're at. So this feels like an intentional

36:47 uh, attempted to deceive at this point in time. And by the way, we've seen a huge amount of deception going on out there with these, Hey, listen, we come up with some ideas that don't pan out, but the worst ones that just don't comport with physics, those get a lot of traction somehow somebody's buying views on those and making sure that they go far. And, and as soon as I see that Alex, I'm pretty sure we're dealing with non It's just not individual. Somebody's flooding the zone with this info. Well, what about, again, I'm not in defense of Israel, a big critic of Israel, but I'm also a supporter of truth. I'm not saying Israel couldn't have a motive or could be involved in saying, how do you instantly say so many influencers, we know it's Israel, it's them within 12 hours. And then I'm like, well,

37:32 We got to investigate, oh, you're a traitor, you're on the payroll too. And then I'm like, no, I'm not. Like you said, they got better since Butler. And I would guess past behavior of this climate is gonna be the future action. I would say the main suspects, whoever they are, is whoever tried to kill Trump and Butler. We know there were two shooters. You're an expert on that. Maybe you should just remind people about the few of the key points there. Yeah, give me one second. I'm just going to find. So in the Trump shooting, we actually and I just have to find a slide. Take your time, sir. In fact, I keep interrupting. We're 16 minutes to break. You're hosting. You take over.

38:08 Okay, so so here's here's what we had in in in the Butler shooting So we had these we had all these cameras to work with and so I had seven high-quality sources that I used including Trump's own mic which is the ultimate source because it was right at the point where you could get what's called the SNCC boom a Gun a rifle that's shooting a supersonic round the bullet supersonic. It's traveling fast faster than sound. So the bullet arrives before the report from the gun. And when it does, it has a little sonic boom, like a plane that's going too fast, faster than Mach 1 will have a sonic boom. It's lightning. Boom, you get the sonic boom. So we had these beautiful sonograms here that we could begin to line up and learn a lot of things about what happened. And here we sort of see the snick and then the boom and the snick and the boom. And so we were able to start unraveling the whole Trump-Butler shooting very, very quickly.

38:58 The key thing, the reason that I know that we have two shooters is that we had this camera that was on the west side of that AGR building, the American Glass Research Building. So over on the side, if you were facing it from Trump's direction, the left side, the west side. And there was somebody over there filming and they caught these first three shots here. You see that this is the shot itself, these are explosions, and then this is an echo. And this is an explosion, and this little thing is an echo. So one of the things you can't do if you're a single shooter is change the geometry of the echoes that are going to result. This camera's sitting in one spot, and all of a sudden we see that those next five come off. So it was one, two, three. This first shot was the one that nicked Trump's ear. We had two and three. These are the ones actually that ended up hurting Copenhager and

39:48 David Dutch behind Trump. And then we have these next string of five, which is like 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. And this is the last one, which was the one that killed the kid. But look at these echoes. These are 0.17 seconds apart. These are 0.08, give or take. Okay, so I can tell you for a fact that this gun that took these three shots was echoing off of different surfaces than these. If the FBI was, you know, wanted to run a quality investigation and say, oh, we can explain that, they would have to run a test. Go back there in July when the same leaves are up, make sure there aren't any new structures, put the stands back up, have some equipment. You know, they should have done these tests honestly the day after. And then you fire three shots and then maybe

40:32 I don't know, let's hypothesize maybe the gun barrel was over the ridge line and now it's behind the ridge line and that changes things. But they would have to recreate this to say here's how you could get this signature with one lone crazed kid, you know, shooting from a single position. But beyond that you can't. So this, you know, we put this out there and this should have been picked up everywhere and I had zero calls from the FBI, zero calls from any investigators, nobody was interested. So that tells you something right there. At a minimum, they would have to explain how the echoes changed because those are the hardest things to change in a shooting scenario. Okay, so

41:17 Well, with that, I can just guarantee you that what we saw in Butler has not been resolved. It clearly points to two shooters and that's what the data we have has. And we've had this data for well over a year now and just been sitting on it here and we've put it out to the world. And just to be clear, Dr. Chris Martinson, I totally respect you and you're amazing and I've been really wanting to get you on. They're having a federal court hearing right now with all the battles to shut us down that will finally decide this. And so they're in their control room listening to it. So I'm listening to you in one ear and running in there. And just for listeners to know, I'll cover this more next hour. But he has lived to this day. And unless he does some other maneuver, they're gonna come in here with sheriff's deputies as early as tomorrow and shut down in full force. So all you out there, it's fake, he survived so much that you

42:09 You know, whatever. I just hope you remember that because this is how hard this fight has been. I hope you pray for him for us right now. It's been hell, but they want us off the air so we can't have real discussions. The Democrats are in the news saying we want him off the air. It isn't about money. They've refused settlements. They want us off the air. So sorry, I was listening to you, sir. And I'm sorry to have, you know, when I said you're hosting though, you're hosting. Go ahead, please continue. Well, I'm very sorry to hear that because of course you've had to put up with so much around this and I see it as all part of that one thing which is we're in the fight for our lives. We have this deep state. It's unaccountable. It just does whatever it wants. It operates extra judicially. It doesn't even care that it throws out really crazy ideas that we're supposed to absorb like, you know, buildings just fall at free fall speed, you know, for no good reason. Just trust us, bro. Right? So this all feels like it fits into that. I think that we absolutely deserve Charlie deserves. And Charlie was the most potent political figure of our times in the sense that he was going out to college campuses and speaking directly

43:10 to the kids. He was literally an evangelist who'd already had an effect that definitely made Trump win both times but was accelerating more powerful and he was gaining momentum and he was an evangelist for the return of the Republic. That's absolutely why I see the Democrats that clear the deep state and some Republicans that tried to kill Trump and Butler, I see them as the prime suspect. Now they're in discords, they use this guy as a piggyback or we know he was connected to this program at college that was a feeder group to intelligence. But regardless to me, I know you're a scientist, you don't like to speculate, but just as an opinion,

43:51 I think it's the Democrat, globalist, neocon, deep state that has the most motive. But at the same time, I mean, I could see it being any other group, but I think it is really clear that what we're being told is a lie. And then by extension, who has the power to cover this up and who's doing that? And I was told two weeks ago by folks that were in the White House meetings, and then I confronted with a very well-known journalist who also was told the same thing, who was not in the meeting, but was told by the same people. that Trump was like, I want to find out who did it. It's the trans people, get them all. And then in a breakaway meeting, they're like, nope, we're not seeing as accomplices, we're moving forward. So why haven't the six people that posted days before, he'll be dead tomorrow, he'll be dead in two days. Oh, see, we told you he'd be dead tomorrow and the next day. Why, where are their hard drives? Why haven't they been SWAT team? Where are their phones? So they're not even wanting to look at the surrounding support leftist group in the official story. So that to me is another really big red flag.

44:49 Well, and if you have to contrast that with of course the overbearingness of the J6, 5,000 FBI agents going out and busting down doors and everything, because that was just so horrible that people walked between velvet ropes. You can clearly interpret something by the muscularity of the investigation. It was four days after the shooting that already they were tearing up the grass and repaving the whole crime scene as if that's what you do in these situations. Charlie Kirk's murder was the most significant political murder since MLK as far as I'm concerned and it deserves the most intense rigorous Absolutely in a no stone unturned kind of an investigation and we're not getting that. You're right. Where are these other six furries that should be getting absolutely in cuffs and being talked to? He'll be dead tomorrow. You just watched next day. Yeah, he's dead. I told you. I mean, that is total probable cause for a warrant. They should have been. We all knew this an hour. It was dead. These people were bragging and it was confirmed they should have been SWAT team bare minimum the next morning.

45:50 Yep. Well, I do think that Charlie Kirk's murder was not done by Tyler Robinson. I actually think that his lawyers are going to have a relatively easy time creating what we would call reasonable doubt, right? You know, if we look at these pictures of him coming up the stairwell, which are these two pictures down here against his booking photos, anything we can see, you can see this guy has a smooth upper ear. This guy, I can't really tell because it's a potato cam, but it looks like a fold across the upper ear that we can see. I'm not even sure this is him, but we were told it was him. We were told it was him and we were told that, oh, this must be him because he has the same sort of sunglasses, but the hat doesn't match anymore and the sunglasses may be a match. There were cameras

46:31 Everywhere on that, up the stairwell, down the Losi Center. He could have been part of a drill or something. That's classic. They have him part of something else, and they just use him as the patsy. Yep. And here, these are allegedly the photos taken of somebody who's going up to get on the roof of the Losi building, but I can tell you there's no gun down that pant leg. Right? You put it in a soft case, you do all that. And if you disassemble one for long range shooting, you can be guaranteed when you put it back together that it's going to be shooting a half foot off if you're lucky. So absolutely. He doesn't assemble that on a roof and then shoot him in the throat at 200 yards. It's horse crap.

47:28 No, it just doesn't happen and there's no way it disassembled and broke down to fit in here. So where's the gun? I think it's incumbent on the investigators to say, okay, you know, here's the gun. That's a key point. Even disassembled, the barrel is probably six, seven inches longer than that backpack. Put that back up. That's a good point. There's no way the barrel, you don't disassemble that folks. It's one piece. There's no way that fits in there. That is My gosh, if you actually had that in there, it would be sticking out. That's a pretty long rifle. You'd have eight inches, six, seven inches. I mean, my... Close to a foot. Because if you look back up at the rifle, that is... When you do break down a Mauser, the action comes off that all metal, the whole metal. It's not just the barrel. You don't unscrew the barrel. Everything from the scope would stay mounted onto that, the entire action. When you break down a Mauser like this, you would take... Remove the bolt.

48:20 You have to undo all these screws, the trigger guard, trigger, all that action comes out at the top and that would be it sticking out of this at least eight inches, maybe a foot. And like you said, everybody can focus on camera guns and microphone guns and the guy, the security guard shooting him in the arm, clearly a cell phone, he goes like that, like everybody does, ooh, boom. But that then makes you ignore the stuff we know is impossible. The shot at a 10 degree angle, not going through, impossible with that round. Obviously, yes, you cannot have him disassemble one of that backpack. All those things we know it's not true. Right. So I've done a lot of defensive pistol training. And so, of course, there's this old joke they tell you, which is what does somebody do after you shoot them with a pistol?

49:05 And the answer is whatever they were doing before you shot them. Because pistols are not really good at stopping, they don't have the stopping power, not like a rifle does, right? And so unless you hit the brain box directly with a pistol round, now you've hit them and they're bleeding. Well, it takes a while for fluid to leak out enough to stop somebody from doing what they're doing. Charlie was immediately incapacitated and also that overpressure event that we now can see from two angles. All of it's just high powered rifle, it's just the trajectory doesn't work. High powered. Right, so now we can get rid of phone guns and palm guns and you know little camera guns and exploding mics or maybe there was a bullet in the mic, you know all of that. That's just, that was just flooding the zone. I was about to say folks, I'm sure I bought just for fun those $200 little joke pen guns and little Derringers and stuff. I'm just saying they're dangerous, you shouldn't get them folks. You're gonna give a death wish. I don't know why I did it when I was younger just because they were interesting. They're super

49:58 Not just inaccurate, a lot of times they don't even work. But the point is, they don't have any penetration power, even though they're a weak round, it's even weaker. Absolutely, you don't get the brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Everything I have says he was shot from the left. So classic misdirection, of course, there was a lot of effort put up to see if we could get him shot from the right. Now what's interesting is on my YouTube channel, I put this video up and it got a strike right away, the first one I put up. And I have somebody behind the scenes who's able to sort of resolve those. But I was getting strike after strike on there and they were burning up all of their, they have some credits that they're able to sort of deal with the situation.

50:51 on what I consider to be wrong theories. And again, that's somebody with power, you decide, you know, from there I kind of lose the trail. It's kind of like with 9-11, like who had the power to authorize all the metal being melted down before it could be analyzed, right? You get a clue or it's fog of war. I mean, you bring up building seven.

51:30 We had Barry Jennings on and then he died two weeks later and the neighbors said no, it was a witness protection program, all these trucks came, the family left. But he was deputy head of emergency management, he said no, they had bombs, they told us they blew up seven. Well, they said on the news they blew it up. It's not just it falls in free fall, you see squibs, they got it wrong on BBC, two channels, CNN. 25 and 45 minutes before and said we blew it up. I heard it on CBS radio. I've taken a break when I was on air to get a pizza down the road. I've been on since early in the morning and I'm listening back to what they saw at CBS radio on 590KLBJ. So I'm literally eating pizza, driving back to my studio, you know, gobbling.

52:06 And they're like, the Solomon Brother building, 47 story, they're gonna control demolitions, what doesn't hurt are the buildings. I'm like, that doesn't make sense. And they go, and they're like, yes, sir, about to bring it down. So they jumped the gun and put that out. And then when I told people, they go, yeah, we remember that. But back then the internet wasn't archived. It was like five years later, suddenly NBC put their archives out and it was like, they didn't think to cover that up. There is all them saying they blew it up. And then Larry Silverstein said, yeah, we made the decision to blow it up. But then we're supposed to never remember that or talk about that. And that's of course they wanted us to believe nonsense, which is violating the laws of physics, which I can't do. I just I default to the laws of physics. Physics is unbeaten, you know, when you get right down to it. So if you were standing on the corner of that building seven at the exact moment it started to let go and you drop the bowling ball into the air, you would have tracked that bowling ball for two and a quarter seconds at the same speed. That's what we're talking about here. So in order for that to happen, somehow 80,000

53:06 8,000 tons of structural steel has to have zero resistance. Okay, that's not a fire. It's not a progressive collapse. Only a professional demolition. A lot of times professional companies do it and it doesn't fall right away. I mean this was a professional demolition. Right, but nobody wired that up in the minutes after the other two towers were hit and came down. That means the reason they can't go forward with that is obviously we have to understand that that building was wired before 9-11. Well, what was that guys with box cutters from Saudi Arabia? Sorry, not a chance. And what was in the building? The main FBI headquarters for records, not in DC, it was there.

53:46 and the CIA headquarters, the second largest CIA base in the US. And the word was, because the Pentagon missing money, they put it all together to get rid of the records as well. And the SEC records, including all of Enron's records. That's right. All of that. Yep. So that's what it's so now you say, okay, you get into speculation territory, but obviously you can clearly conclude this wasn't the NYPD and had to be somebody a little higher up the food chain. And that's where we are. I saw on PBS who I got on. And we tracked them down. They said no, they were using the Red Cross channel. We don't mean the average Red Cross people. Red Cross has always been intelligence at the top. They had a countdown and there's cops like, get back, it's about to bring down. 10 seconds, 9, 8. You don't hear the countdown, but the cops say, hey, 5 seconds, get back. And it boom falls. And we went and tracked down the cops and firemen.

54:38 And they're like, yeah, no, we can, they told us they're gonna blow it up. They put it on a countdown over the Red Cross radios. Can you do a little bit more time on this, uh, doctor? Yes, absolutely. We'll be back in two minutes. Thanks. You okay? You okay? This is undoubtedly one of the toughest announcements that I've ever personally had to make. But after the accident and turned forward to the end of the day, total 500. We've lost Dale Earnhardt. Look, I'm not trying to frame myself as the GOAT. Like a Dale Earnhardt who died with his boots on, sword in hand. Or Michael Jordan. Or Tom Brady. Or Muhammad Ali. But the truth is, when it comes to information warfare and saving the American Republic, taking on the globalists, having the greatest effect, awakening Americans from all over the world, InfoWars is

59:08 We have the emergency deputy head of emergency management saying they told him that they blew it up. We had him on the news saying they blew it up. We have the police saying get back and the media spun it. Jones says the police blew it up. No, the police are told they're blowing it up, get back. When we actually went to New York, these people contacted us. I interviewed the firemen and all of them. And you know, the dust was so deadly about the last year. I was like, hey, get that fireman back on, get that, get that police officer. And you know what happens? The one Lee and McAdoo interview, the ones interviewed, they're all dead. Something like 20,000 of the people in and around the building have died of cancers and stuff. So we got to dig up all those interviews and repost them because like the, like the Lee and

59:49 McAdoon interview with the black fire captain that was there from the start and for like weeks he died from the dust. And he's just explaining it all how they said they blew it up and how they did it all. I mean, and people go, oh, you're saying that no, they didn't blow it up. They told us they blew it up. They were the people telling us. Sorry, I'm ranting Dr. Chris Martinson and some stations don't carry this first five. I want to keep you about 10, 15 minutes. after this break in about three or four minutes, but just putting bookends on building seven as Somebody that does your pathology and toxicology, you know, it just studies basic science and we've had so many engineers on about this as well It just boggles the mind that they think we're so stupid But I guess the good news is people don't buy it anymore So now they just flood the zone with garbage to try to confuse everybody

1:00:39 They do and there was so much physical evidence on 9-11 that just didn't match physics, right? They had these concrete artifacts that they found one front I saw in the NYPD 9-11 Memorial Museum. They had a concrete artifact from building 6. 6? Not 7, not 1, not 2, 6. next to one. And it came from the basement and it was fused concrete and it was interesting because it had a gun barrel pointing out because the ATF was housed in building six. So now we have to just material science physically account for heat sufficient to melt concrete and fuse it to steel and that's about 3,400 degrees Fahrenheit for at least 30 minutes. You need an oven to do that. So

1:01:17 How do we account for that, right? And of course they can't because the physical evidence doesn't match. You can't have a basement fire. There's no combination of desks and paper that's going to give you that in a poorly oxygenated basement environment or even a perfectly oxygenated above-ground environment. Won't happen. So we have all these physical artifacts that just don't line up and they asked us to believe in those. And the one that really caught me, I don't know if you remember this, but like it's like six years after 9-11, And they said they found some bone chips, human bone chips on a building pretty far away. Yes. Well, think about what it takes to A, turn human bones into chips and B, eject them over 200 feet laterally.

1:01:58 that has to be shot out of a cannon practically. It means those people had to be standing next to an explosion of some kind. Because guess what? Buildings don't crush people and then eject bone chips hundreds of feet through the air. Physics doesn't work that way. So that whole, everything about that day was just absolutely wrong and the investigation obviously wrong. Obviously, clearly, they lied to us about that and everybody knows that now. And so what do we do with that information? Look, you're showing molten metal pouring out of a building. There is not a single combination of office fires that could cause bright orange molten metal to pour out the side of a building. Full stop, that's just basic chemistry and physics. Incredible. I want to just come back for a few minutes and just give you the floor. Seriously, so if you pause, I'll be here and jump in because I'm so interested in all this. I kind of perseverate. But doctor, I'd like you to other points, what you think should be done, obviously,

1:02:52 We need the autopsy, they say there is one, where is it? We need to see the bullet fragments of the bullet. And then what else, think about this, what else should the public be doing that's productive? Because Charlie's a great guy, a good friend of mine, he would want the truth to come out and People see the professionalism of TPUSA and say that's fake. No, she was professional. That's what she did. You put on a good face and that stuff. But at the same time, I want to see them searching for truth as well because the issues don't add up. If they try to block investigations of TPUSA, then I'm going to start getting very suspicious. Not yet, but I will be. I'm accused of sensationalism and making stuff up. But if you go back over my 30 plus year history, and I made a few mistakes here and there,

1:03:39 I've always just wanted to have the truth, that's how I want to be treated. I don't even think about how do I twist something. To me it's like a scientific method, you can apply to anything in life. How does this really work? That's what just feels natural. It's not even natural, you just do it. It's second nature. But I have been, and I'm not defending myself, this is an issue of people's brains. I've been visually attacked by every group that has their own pet theory about this. And then we blow up the video and it's not a camera gun, it's a bottle of water. It's not him shooting him under the arm, the security guy, it's his cell phone he jerks back. And then I'm a traitor, you're covering up. And not only are those theories that have now been disproven, disproven, but then people just move on without any evidence of those particular theories being true, then you add Israel did it. Listen, if Israel does something wrong like the October 7th stand down or any of this stuff, I'm on it like white on rice.

1:04:40 But we're not gonna actually get to the truth and start setting a precedent where the deep state won't pull this anymore if we let them flood the zone with disinformation, fog of war, and can't get there. So The bad guys for this broadcast and people like our guests because we're have credibility with smart people. Like I want to be tomorrow's news today. I want to be the guy that people know, oh, he'll actually, you know, do the research. Because let me tell you, do what my listeners want. But I do listen and I do cover things that interest them.

1:05:22 Because if you don't do that, you won't have an audience to begin with. But then I'll give my truthful perspective on it. So I'm just as obsessed on this Charlie thing as you are, and we should stay on it. But also at a certain point, if we just look at a thousand different theories and every one we've got to accept with no evidence, that becomes a distraction from the truth and then a distraction from everything else. So Dr. Chris Martinson of peakprosperity.com, in the next 10 minutes, I'll give you the floor right now. What do you think we should do? What should we demand? Where is this going? You heard my comment about TPUSA. They want to say, oh, because his wife was so professional, you know, in these speeches. Well, that's what she did. That's what, I mean, that's what you do. I mean, I can tell you if somebody killed my family member and this was happening, I would get up there and give a strong speech and probably wouldn't cry because that's something I generally do privately.

1:06:12 But I might, but the point is, people say, oh, and I'm not attacking Nick Fuentes, I think he has reasonable, he says what he thinks. But he's like, well, it looks like an arranged marriage to me. Well, Charlie's talked about the story forever, and that's how this works. You get this beautiful woman with this huge resume comes in, wants to work there, and he said point blank, I wanna date you, I'm not giving you a job here, sorry. And she's very pretty, very smart, And this is like wife material. And I know a lot of guys that have businesses and things and a beautiful woman comes in and they want a job, and they just say, nope, I'm not giving you the job. It has nothing to do with that. You're too beautiful. You know, I'm smitten by you and I'd like to take you out, blah, blah, blah. And you can say that's sexual harassment. No, it's not. He didn't hire her. And boy, she liked it. It's on. I'm sure she already had a crush on him. I'm sure he was picking up on that. Now, could they have sent her in or whatever? Folks, it's so ridiculous. Let's just get it. And I think it's a good thing.

1:07:10 Conservatives, populists, and people don't really have a good place other than church to go out on dates. And then you don't even know people's politics. One reason TPU USA is so popular for the last 10, 11 years and growing is it's actually a big singles meetup dummies for people that don't know all the incels and people, I'm not saying nicks that, I'm saying that they're scared of women. These are women that share your values and they're looking for a man. So to say, oh, and I disagree with Nick on this, oh, it's an arranged marriage with no evidence. No, that's how men and women work. This is wifey material because she's professional, she's been an actress, she's done all this, she's been in human services and helping orphans around the world. She's done this, she's a Christian.

1:07:59 and they hit it off. That's how it works. Everybody knows most marriages, it's a crazy thing, are people that you met in business or in life or at work because there's just, it's just a different, it's a different vibe. And I know I'm ranting. I said I'd go to Dr. Chris Martinson, but I just also wanted to, you know, just say, And I get it, Nick's a virgin and I'm not criticizing him for that, he's a Catholic Christian, I'm actually proud of him doing that. For those of us that have, let's just say, growing up, were not very chaste, I mean, I guess people can think, wow, this woman's beautiful. She's incredible. She's smart. She's amazing. You know, this must be arranged. No, when you're out, when men see a woman and you know this is the one, then it's bang. I mean, it's like hitting a gong. So I absolutely believe his story. He's told hundreds of times of how he met her, fell in love with her, married her, had children with her. And I don't think she's involved killing him. I mean, and I'm not saying Nick's saying that, that's just preposterous, ladies and gentlemen.

1:08:58 So I'm ranting, but Dr. Chris Martinson, what should we do? Where's this going? What else should be investigated? Please continue. Oh, thanks. I totally appreciate that rant because when I met my current wife, it was an instant gong. I know exactly that sensation, that feeling. I'm going to put out a plea. Obviously, we want all the TPUSA footage that they've got from the cameras that were right there, the microphones. But we also need some things from, I haven't found a single one of these yet. So let's imagine we're sitting in Charlie's seat and straight forward, you got he's shot from the left. That means we need people who are filming from the right who

1:09:35 who may have caught some roof lines or anything like that. I haven't seen a single one of those yet. And here's the theory. So we know that a bullet landed in his body if we believe that cavitation event, we believe that he was instantly dead. He had that that decorticate posturing that speaks of a violent insult. We saw that this is graphic, but when he did bleed, you know, he's shot and it takes a couple of frames, but then you see all this blood. But you see, if you watch it carefully, it spills out. it doesn't spurt out. So if his heart was still pumping and his carotid artery was hit, that stuff's going two, three feet. It doesn't. I think it takes a beat because what happens is he has this huge insult, it explodes, it pushes that blood back up into his head and then it drains out but it's not spurting out. So that looks like a venous dump. So okay, so we've established he's shot. So now we have to account for what are some physical geometries, where could he have been shot from that would match what we need to see?

1:10:31 I think the minimum angle would be about 20 degrees, so I've drawn a 20 degree line on here with my magic protractor. This comes down into his body. Why 20 degrees? Because it lands below, on this angle, below that thoracic vertebrae. If it's above that, his arms aren't moving anymore, okay? So it has to be at least at this steep of an angle on a downslope. That puts it clearly down into his chest cavity. When you were talking, Alex, about how the doctor had allegedly said that it bounced down and crushed these here, that's the minimum angle that would get us here. 20 degrees. Plus, we have to be off axis a bit. 40-45 degrees gets us to a point where we're actually hitting the spine and not just coming out to the side of the spine. So it has to be both a steeper side angle, a steeper down angle.

1:11:17 So this sort of comports if he's shot from this other building, this is where they said the shooter was, was way up here, straight coming down this way. If we put somebody over here, okay. Now was anybody there? I don't have any video evidence of that. So we would love to see anybody sitting to Charlie's right who may have been filming up this way, particularly anybody over here filming this direction. That would be highly valuable. But we have this a couple of stills from a video that was shot from right here. Somebody was at this position to Charlie's left and when the shot rang out they swung their camera around a little bit and they came over here and I want to draw your attention to cowboy hat guy in red shirt guy where they are pointing. They are pointing exactly at this position right here when you triangulate. This red arrow shows you the direction he's pointing. He didn't point here.

1:12:07 He's pointing here for some reason. Everybody else is screaming and running around and ducking, but this guy just stands up hand in pocket and goes, You know, like people will. Again, complex audio environment, maybe we heard echoing sounds, maybe he misheard it, you know, witnesses can be unreliable. But both Red Shirt Guy and Cowboy Hat Guy seem pretty composed and they're looking right at this building. So if it was me, I'd be looking somewhere over here onto Charlie's left because I've put Red Shirt Guy in here pointing almost exactly as I could, best I could, You know, landing it on there, it's hard because the angles are all kind of weird. But that's where he's pointing. He's pointing over on this building called the Sorensen roof, not the Lossie building, which would have been again, straight up back here, back this way. So I think we just, you know, to speculate a little bit, we have some evidence that he's shot from his left and above.

1:13:01 not from straight on front, relatively speaking. And so the call is very clear. We need every possible recording at this point in time. In particular, what I need is I need people's original recordings of the shot going off with what they call the metadata. You would go into your video, you'd look at properties, because we need to know the exact second that that shot was taken, because then we can start to line up and have an actual proper crime scene timeline. I'm a little surprised at how few recordings we have to work with at this point. There's only five that have made it out there that are of any quality. There were cameras everywhere. I have one picture. I see 30 phones up doing something. Maybe they were taking still pictures, but I'll bet a lot of them were recording. Where are those? I went on TikTok. Actually, my co-worker Nick did because he has a very secure machine that's isolated from the rest of his machines because TikTok's a very grabby company. At any rate, he went in there and it was just, Alex, it was all junk. It was people doing downloads of downloads and edits on top of edits.

1:14:03 Finding the original source files, very difficult. So if we could get those, now we can begin to do some proper forensics. I didn't intend to go down this path. I put a lot into the Butler thing. I have a lot of other things I need to analyze for my peak prosperity tribe. But too much added up was wrong and when I see things that are obviously physically inconsistent with reality, that's where I gotta kind of dive in. So I'm all in now and if I could get any of those recordings, particularly from people on the far side looking up towards where this video was shot from, that would be really helpful. Any audio recordings, any video recordings.

1:14:39 the originals if we could get those. We'll set up, we have a Dropbox link and I've got ProtonMail. If you have people want to get them to us, please do. You can find us at PeakProsperity.com. I'm on Twitter at Chris Martinson. I use my real name, no pseudonyms here. So anything we can do to get some more source material would be helpful. But the biggest best source material is going to be what TPUSA has and is not releasing at this point in time alongside obviously the autopsy report. So that's the plea. Alright, so this and Cowboy Hat Guy, these are the two people here. If we could find these people, this would be very helpful as well. We should talk to these folks. But anybody who's there who has an eyewitness point of view, if you think you heard it, something seems a little bit off, we would want to know a lot about what you have.

1:15:35 And best guess, this area and back should be scoured very carefully for clues. I'm a little worried so much time has passed. We're a couple of weeks past this at this point, so I don't know what we're going to find anymore. But that's where I would have started if I was in the business of doing this. Right there, we should be looking. That's where Red Hat, Cowboy Hat guy and Red Shirt guy are pointing. And anybody who's got any videos about that, That would be fantastic because as we saw, when the FBI released- And listen for the public. Don't wait. Just go create an ex account, whatever. Upload your raw footage now and then the investigators online, all of us will get it aggregated. Get it out people. You may think what you have isn't important. If you were there or you have family that was there, upload it. That's what you're saying, Dr. Martinson? Yep.

1:16:24 yet X number of seconds the shot rang out, that's going to be contained, we'll be able to figure it out from the metadata very, very quickly. So that's what we need. And so our conclusions here are pretty simple. There's not a chance in the world that anybody's going to convince me at this point. Very high confidence, never say never, but pretty high confidence that a 30-06 round hitting the softest part of the throat at an angle where it couldn't have intersected a bone

1:17:04 didn't just blow straight through. It didn't suddenly turn corner and go somewhere else. If such things could happen, Alex, we would see videos of people shooting watermelons with 30-odd sixes and the bullet would mysteriously come out the side. It doesn't do that. It just goes straight on through. And that's what bullets do. They, unless they're acted on by a force. Yeah, 100%. I mean, look. I'm going to say it again. 30 on six, not my favorite because I don't think it's as accurate as 300 wind max, my favorite. And I've shot, but I've shot a dozen deer with a 30 on six when I was younger. That was the rival. My dad got me after I was like six, he got me two 43, but later at 30 on six when I was like 10 and that's where she had 300 wind mag. Cause my uncle had one. I love that. What's even more powerful. But the point is I've shot. There you go. Yeah. I mean, I've shot, I've already told the story a hundred times, but I mean,

1:17:57 That it goes straight through even if it hits ribs on both sides and it blows a four-inch hole in the other side and Again, I've only taken a shot at a hog a shot one with 30-odd six straight on a few from the side I shot like a 400 pound hog with 30-odd six and I shot at its head, but it went under hit the neck and the thing went in and Two plus feet bounced off ribs, bounce back up and blew up into the shoulder but didn't come out. We gutted it and could see how it just annihilated everything and broke up. But they had already lost power through two feet then bounce back another foot up into the or two feet to the shoulder, putting a half of the shoulder. For people that don't, it's insane. This is not what they do. You see Kennedy.

1:18:47 Shot with a 30-odd six in the head it goes in blows the whole back of the head off That's what it does and that wasn't from the bullet breaking up. That was like you said, it's that pressure wave it creates Exactly. I mean if we just dial it up a bit imagine somebody being shot with like a Tank round right you wouldn't expect it to bounce around and go in his shoulder and come out his toe, right? That thing is going straight through because it's a mass problem that that 30-odd six round is We don't know, could have been a very light one, 115 grains, it could have been a heavy one, 220. Let's imagine it's a standard 150 grain, 160 grain hunting round. That thing has so much power when it comes in. So you showed those two watermelons, one on the left had the 5.56, that's a very light round, it's very prone to tumbling. It's not a very stable round, they tumble all the time. But still a 5.56 would have gone right.

1:19:38 Even if it hit his vertebrae it had gone right through him on a two-inch hole in the back Yep, but a 30-odd six not a chance in the world magic, steels of bones of steel. It's just asking us to believe something that's frankly unbelievable. So let's just get rid of that. He was not shot from a 10 degree down slope with a 30 ought six, right? Unless they're going to show us he had really crazy rounds that were super special or something. But even then, that right there, that video, look at that boom, just annihilated that. When I was 14, my dad bought me a resold state, Texas state police, many 14. And I shot a deer just as I was tired of shooting him high power. I want to see what low power would do. And I shot three or four deer with that many 14. And all the times I shot him in the shoulder, twice it went through and blew about a two inch hole in the side. Once it didn't and did bounce around and just wrecked the insides. But again, that's a, that's a five, five, six. That's not a Magnum run.

1:20:39 Yeah, and let's 5-5-6 very very different round and it has a lot less energy less than half what a 30-06 would have and these are really powerful energies we're talking about here. This isn't just this is physics, right? This is just like what we're talking about with building 7. It's just physics and the one thing I'm not going to do for my government or for a narrative control police state is to suspend the laws of physics whenever it's convenient. for them. They are what they are and if we can't have shared common ground of understanding where you and I can have a conversation and understand that gravity is always, you know, 9.86 meters per second squared or whatever the constant is, like, we have to have this shared understanding. There's not a chance in the world that a 30-aught six round hits the softest part of the human body, which is the throat,

1:21:23 In a place where it couldn't have hit any bones and doesn't just go completely not just through that one you could have lined up five more probably. Oh I agree, I was gonna say earlier it would shoot through five or six next. So let's talk about this in closing. I call balls and strikes overall love what Trump's doing night and day compared to Democrats. But clearly the same FBI still in place, the same ATF, the same Secret Service that covered up Butler. Trump sent investigators, Hagman and others, you know, through Presobit. They got threatened all of it. We know there was another shooter. You've already covered all that back further when Crooks failed. And they'd be washing off the thing. I know we couldn't have Secret Service up there. The slum's too high. There was a Secret Service shot. It was the cop. It was all lies.

1:22:03 And so there's clearly a stand down, you know, they covered up, you know, the supposed your patsy's your house and all wiped down, no utensils, all of it clearly a cut out. But what this says when we ask who's behind it, well, It's the government, not just ham-fistedly doing an investigation, but putting out a bunch of stuff that clearly looks planted and staged and not true from minute one. So then you've got to bring the motive into the deep state within the US government. And so how does that, I don't want to speculate, Dr., but now we have to at this point because we know there's a cover up. Then why would the Trump administration, I know Trump's not in charge of that, be involved in that?

1:22:48 Well, we have some clues, right? So Pam Bondi's first instinct in the days immediately after the Kirk murder was to say, oh, we have to pass maybe hate speech laws. And I know the uproar, she had to dial that back. But what kind of an instinct is that? I mean, isn't that the same thing that we were just like decrying from the prior administration? Look at the deputy attorney general, killed an investigation into the deep state trying to shut us down with the DOJ on record caught secretly funding the lawsuits against me. He killed it. So it's still operating and we've all, all of us have had concerns over. Cash and Dan pre getting into those roles very different obviously from cash and Dan after getting into those roles one of the other things I investigated of course when they came out and said oh we have this video evidence that proves that Epstein couldn't have been killed by anybody and then they show us this like little corner of a stairwell with a missing minute and it was just so laughable and you have to ask yourself well what happens when you go to DC I mean do you give it like what happened do they show you something really horrible or really good what is it I don't know but they show you something

1:23:52 They clearly, they say Epstein killed himself. No, he didn't. The evidence is completely against that. Again, I have pathology, I've conducted autopsies. I agree with Michael Madden. Well, the top pathologist probably in the world, but definitely in the US, he examined it all and said his neck was broken in three spots. Takes serious force to do that. Yep, and worse, there was a ligature mark that goes straight back, 90 degrees, straight back. But if you slump off of a jail cell, you're gonna pull up. Right? So the little remarks were in the wrong spot. Well, a shoe's not going to create a little red line. Only a garage is. Mm-hmm. One approximately the size of an electrical cord based on the photos we have, right? It was very clearly obvious what happened there. And of course, we're supposed to believe the opposite of that. Yeah, it was a professional killing. Yeah.

1:24:40 It was. And of course, we all know that there seems to be zero interest in the Trump administration following up on anything related to Epstein. So of course, we've got another clue there, but there's obviously a deep state. It's operating, it does things, and it asks us to believe the impossible all the time. And here's another one, we're supposed to believe that somebody used a 30-06 from 140 yards at a 10-degree angle, and somehow it magically went took a 30 degree angle down into somebody's body. It didn't happen. That's fiction. It didn't happen that way. It can't have. It's just the end of that. I've shot so many even big bones and small bones with your gut and animals. You see it. If you're coming at 10 degree angle, even hitting a big bone at high velocity up close, it just goes right through. But if it was even barely glancing, maybe a degree, maybe it bounces a little or something, but you don't go voom, bullet stone go voom with full power.

1:25:36 Never, never. It can't. The forces, it just doesn't work physically. It's not a... Explain that. The force is going this way. So the force is going forward. It doesn't go... Right, so I ran the calculations. So with 2,000 foot-pounds of pressure, that's 2,000 foot-pounds traveling in a vector, that means a straight line, and it's going to do that until something influences it to go the other direction. To take a 30 degree down angle into Charlie's body, it would have needed to experience 12,000 pounds of opposing force. And I run in here and they were already covering it. They already had the video going. So by the way, the federal judge just about 20 minutes ago greenlit the shutdown of M4s. And they've got the receivership of the state. And tomorrow and the next day, the Sheriff's Department's coming here to close this. So thanks for standing with us over the years. Thanks for everything everybody did. Thanks for your prayers. We survived so much, people didn't take it serious. But I guess when this shuts down, you will.

1:27:09 I've never cried wolf all the schizophrenics online so that wasn't real any of this stuff. You know, this is sick. And our lawyers showed all the proof where they said we don't want money, we want him silenced and how they violated due process and our rights. And we're gonna go forward and litigate against these people. We're not gonna stop with the Alex Jones Network, but that's where we are. But in closing with our guest here, We're three weeks in and we're simply showing the facts, a 30-odd six, at the angle they said from where the supposed shooter was is impossible. Absolutely an insult to logic and science. And then you got the Trump administration sitting at the center of it. And I had a White House source almost two weeks ago say, I really hate to tell you this, we were in the meeting. Trump wants it all investigated, all the accomplices arrested, you saw him say that. But they said in the breakaway meetings, they're like, nope, that's shut down.

1:28:11 And that's gonna come out soon as well. So I wish this wasn't the case. I think the very same groups that tried to kill Trump and failed in Butler did this, like Dr. Chris Martins and said they got better. And this is all a major test. Doctor, any closing comments and anything else you'd like to say or motive or where we should go? You already said where we should go from here. I totally agree on demanding all these answers, but I don't know how we do that. Well, Alex, I'm just reeling from the information you just shared because as we've seen, anybody who's a truth teller, you're under constant assault in this. So I was a COVID truth teller and I caught on and I did a lot of COVID reporting. And I'm just, again, this is who I am. I just share data. When the data changes, I change. It's very simple. People say, oh, you're a conspiracy theorist. No, I just follow

1:29:00 facts and logic and sometimes that feels like conspiracy theory in this day and age but it's very simple and I can reproduce everything and I can tell you where I got my sources. I love that interview you did with Tucker where he asked you how did you know? You said well I just read what they told me you know and I'm with you on that if somebody says they're going to do something and then it happens well maybe they did it. You know, it's, it's... You're talking about projects for the American Century published one year before 9-11 where Dick Cheney, Rumsfeld, and... and Netanyahu's involved. And they say, we need a Pearl Harbor event so we can do all this. And Pearl Harbor killed 3,000, this did, yeah. Exactly. So here we are, but with COVID, you know, as soon as you started investing... It's like COVID Operation Lockstep. 15 years ago, the Rockefeller Foundation CIA say, we're going to release a virus, disease X, six feet apart for fear, mask, bring in a world ID, inject everybody. I mean, people said, how'd you know? Well, I mean, hell, they told us.

1:29:56 Well, they did. And we had Fauci say that in 2017, well, Trump's gonna have to face a pandemic and how did he know, right? Again, so maybe we should ask a few questions, but they did this event 201 planning. They brought in all these people to talk about how you'd handle a coronavirus of all things, which we'd never had a pandemic outbreak of a coronavirus. So magically- And that's months before the release. Yes, magically. So they talk about it, but they're not bringing in anybody who's saying, how would we limit human deaths? They're like, how do we control the story? How do we get people to believe us when we have like this rushed through vaccine? How do we lock up dissenters, right? And how do we control the information space? Not one thing in that entire meeting was about how do we help people get through this with the least disruption, least death.

1:30:38 That's not how they're organized, right? So I face strike after strike on YouTube, barely survived that, you know, just because I was talking about things like ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine. I'm working with frontline doctors and, you know, I work on a board with some of these doctors who were there at the beginning of all this. Because they had data for me, Alex. They had data. They said, look, we're not losing patients, right? They're having an upper respiratory problem, so let's give them some corticosteroids, maybe methylprednisolone and a little bit of supportive care. And look, they're good. And the whole world was like, oh, well, you know, we should just come back when you're blue in the lips and you can't breathe anymore, and then we'll put you on a ventilator with some rendezivir.

1:31:16 If I get worked up and I get on my soapbox is because I fought that battle for two years straight, three years straight, just doing constant COVID reporting. And what I saw shocked me to my core because I discovered it's not just that they were a little careless and doctors just sort of like put people on ventilators and remdesivir and kill them. Whether you were in Australia, Italy, the US, it was all globally standardized. It was even the equivalent $53,000 bonus if you put them on a ventilator all over the world. They admit it was all a big drill of control. Yep. And in the UK they couldn't even wait for that. They took old people in care homes and put them on midazolam and morphine and killed them directly and the data just excludes that. Explain what that means. They say don't give this to someone with a breathing problem. They literally gave them a lethal injection.

1:32:01 Yes, they would give them up to 60 milligrams of something called midazolam, which is a benda diazepine. It's a huge suppressant and it will just drop your breathing to near bottom. If that didn't kill you, they would put morphine on top of that. And that one-two punch for somebody who's already maybe frail in an elderly home of some kind, that'll just take you out. And we have the data that shows that COVID magically killed a lot of people in England. hardly killed anybody in Scotland, Wales and Ireland. So those are all part of the UK. Only in England did they put them there. And the government ordered, I think it was something like 40 times the amount they'd ever ordered six months before for right before. So the government put in budget for that drug months before COVID. I mean, total premeditation. Yes. And they killed people. And so we saw that in New York. They stockpiled the drug so they could kill you

1:32:55 with a drug that turns your lungs off so they could have a high COVID number. That is cold-blooded, baby. It is and they did all of that so they could put this mRNA into us. And this mRNA technology, listen, at some point it might be useful but as currently configured, right, this mRNA doesn't come clean. It always triggers cancer. Let me ask you this, doctor. Why did they roll mRNA out at first in such a discrediting way? Very bizarre. I don't know that because you know they had manufacturing process one and two. One was sort of boutique handmade and that's what they used in the clinical trials. Process two is this big scaled up messy never before tested you know manufacturing process that unfortunately left a lot of what's called plasmid DNA along with the mRNA and that DNA is a contaminant and that contaminant got put into people in little vesicles called the LNPs. Those lipid nanoparticles

1:33:50 That then take that DNA and directly put it into your cell and that right there is with the SV 40 that they had in there this it's a guaranteed way to create cancer. Absolutely. It's gonna statistically that's gonna happen and I'm still mystified that we can't get those shots pulled off the market just on the basis of contamination alone. It's a very simple. I want to support Trump. Yesterday they put up Trump with Albert Bourla at a worship fest and the crew goes, it's Albert Bourla because I was stunned. And of course I know Albert Bourla and they don't pop my ear a lot but I'm kind of during the headlines. Sometimes I get a name wrong, they'll correct me. A couple times a day they'll say, hey, it's this boss. But

1:34:30 They're like, it's Albert Borla, it's Albert Borla. No, I was just watching them have this love fest and I was being punched in the stomach. So I was just dearing the headlines and it wasn't like a fake thing of me shocked on air. I was like, ugh. And Kennedy was behind him giving him dirty looks, but oh, we're going to cut your drug prices now, aren't we nice? It's like giving you a bandaid after you stabbed somebody. It's it's look the mRNA shots as rushed out were the largest and most fatal medical intervention in human history. Bar none. I mean that that's just that's what insurance actually shows 30 million dead at least from something like that. Yeah. And you know in this country they're still keeping two databases really far apart right.

1:35:13 Did you get vaccinated? Did you die? You should just put those two things together. Database, heck, put it in a spreadsheet, right? Czechoslovakia did that. Japan did that and said, oh, this is a horrifying signal of death. And that's death is one outcome. And New Zealand, the head guy leaked it and got put in prison last time I heard because they had one. They had all the databases together and it was absolutely causal. You could see it. Yep. So it's horrifying. So again, so now we're back to this, right? Which is like, what kind of people are we dealing with here? Because that's what, when I say the deep state, what I'm talking about is there's a crew of people who feel like they are entitled, if not obligated, to mess around with our lives. And if that means they have to decide if we live or die, that's how it is. So the

1:35:59 Those people have a name. I think G. Edward Griffin got it right a long time ago. I feel bad I didn't listen to him like 20 years ago because I thought, oh, he keeps talking about collectivists, you know. But this is who they are and I think that's what we're up against. And I think that's in large measure what the deep state is, is people who think they want to have the right to impose a digital ID, tell you how far you can go, 15 minute cities, can eat meat. If you don't stop eating meat, we'll give you a meat disease, right? Right, which Bill Gates was just sort of crowing about. We're gonna have to dim the sun. They just want to control everything. They want to play God. Let's have you back, Dr. Chris Martinson. Peakprosperity.com, we love you. And we'll have you on the Alex Jones Network after we get shut down. Thank you so much, sir. Thank you. My pleasure. So you were just telling me that you had a brain disease.

1:36:46 I started having seizures like a few years ago and everybody in my family knows I'm a neuroscientist. What did you do to fix it? Methylene blue. I'd take it. Okay. Yeah. Mel Gibson was on here talking about it. This stuff works, man. I take it every day as well. And yeah, RFK Jr. told me about it. Yeah, man, it's fantastic. What is Bobby Kennedy Jr. dropping into that glass of water? Plenty of folks are wondering what was in that little bottle he uncorked during a flight. Methylene blue. Shower Kennedy taking. Kennedy literally gobbles it. He must be doing something right. That ripped bot is 73 years old. You shouldn't have to tell a doctor about methylene blue. I think everybody should know about it. It's changed my life.