2:20:57 Where do you see this technology going or what is your vision of the future? And I compared it yesterday to something like Elon Musk and Neuralink where or like even RFK jr. Says we need to have wearables and obviously that's what they want They want us all microchipped not to get off base, but it's like yeah, I don't want to get a microchip I don't like the idea of humans connecting to machines I don't like that but at the same time if I get in a car accident and I lose my ability to walk and if there's a Neuralink technology that can make me walk again. It's like well, how am I gonna? How am I gonna deny myself or somebody else that so, you know? These are kind of more of the moral arguments, but we'll talk about that on the other side real leadership the essence of leadership is Showing people how it's done so that they understand it's the right way and getting them to adopt it. I
2:21:45 And being a leader means you go against the tide when the tide is wrong. You go against the crowd when the crowd is wrong. You go against the establishment when the establishment is degenerate and sick. And then by example, and by confidence, and by will, and by strength, then the timid join you. Because then it costs nothing to be a patriot, quote the great Mark Twain. In the beginning, the patriot is a scarce man hated, feared, and scorned. But in time when his cause succeeds, the timid join him because then it costs nothing to be a patriot. The patriot is a scarce man, hated, feared, scorned. But in time when his cause succeeds,
2:22:32 Cause succeeds, the timid join him, because then it costs nothing to be a patriot. And when you commit to something worthy and good, it is not a weight. It is everything. It is your greatest strength. It becomes your soul to risk your life for freedom. It's what God forged you in his mind as he created your soul before he even put you in your mother's womb. He knew you. Now, back to our program.
2:23:34 So, we were talking about this in the break, how you're kind of in an interesting position and you're getting a lot of positive, you're getting a lot of negative obviously. And who knows if you even anticipated this, you just wanted to come out and say, hey here's what's really going on, we had nothing to do with this disaster, let me explain what's going on. And I was kind of saying how maybe you didn't anticipate this but now you kind of have a chance to be at the front of this. and you can target, hey, here's what really goes on. If you want to be afraid of weather modification and geoengineering and aerosol injection and all this stuff, like, here's that, here's that, and then here's what I'm doing. So you've kind of unintentionally put yourself in a position to be at the front of this. I'm not sure if you want that, considering what you've had to go through in the last 24 hours, but, you know, here you are. And somebody was saying that you're being scapegoated for all of this.
2:24:24 which i would i would i think is accurate that you know people find a disaster and then they want to find out who's to blame and so you've just there you are you've you've you've got your company there you've only been around for two years by the way the uh... cloud seeding you do is very very minuscule compared to what we've witnessed here do you think that's fair to say you've been scapegoated here uh... yeah yeah i think so and i i think like probably for two reasons and maybe a third uh... I think that when a tragedy strikes, people do want to find someone responsible because if someone is responsible and you stop them, then tragedies will stop. That's not the case here. And still like I.
2:25:03 My heart still breaks for all the people that even are threatening to kill me because they think we're responsible and I hope to engage with them over time and maybe at least clarify what we do and what we're not responsible for. I think the second reason is, and candidly, right, like it gets eyeballs, it gets engagement. I think there's a lot of people, HustleBitch is the name of the account on X that probably is the greatest defender of this, of inciting people to believe that Shouldn't even say his name on air I guess but probably inciting people to believe that we're somehow responsible The third thing that comes up, you know is people saying well Augustus is the unaware unintentional fall guy for some other like larger nefarious Cabal right like maybe maybe there is some sort of large-scale malicious government weather modification program going on and I'm just gonna be the one that is blamed because I'm trying to do something in earnest and this is a convenient way to
2:26:02 you know, cover their trail. I haven't seen evidence of that yet. I don't think that's the case. I certainly hope that's not the case. But, you know, we mentioned earlier like FOIAs to figure out what the government is and isn't doing with WeatherMod probably makes sense. Yeah, and this is where you can kind of, if that's the role you want to play, you never anticipated it until this last week. But yeah, that would be one way to do it. But see, generally I think that that's You know, even that's where I've landed from saying, okay, I'm skeptical. Let me look into this, talking to you, doing the interviews and I'm in agreement. It's like, hey, whatever Rainmaker is doing is like, whether you like it or not, that's like a centimeter compared to the.
2:26:40 The the massive feet of water that that the government could inject or anything else to go on It's like yeah, you guys are like this little brand new to the party just getting started two years in really all things considered rather smaller projects compared to what the government can do and it's like you're all the sudden becoming the fall guy and uh... when who knows what the government capabilities are we we do know a lot about what goes on in china so again it's like you said i understand why you end up being at the uh... the scapegoat for this but there's just you guys don't have the capability just period you do you literally do not have the tech or the the resources to engage in something this big yeah yeah i know and nor close and that's sad right like
2:27:25 I think that because there are persistent droughts, right, like I will continue to and so will my team and hopefully more folks will continue to research what the capabilities of cloud seeding are because obviously right now Texas does not need more water. But places like Phoenix, places like Las Vegas that are in persistent drought with cities that are at risk of turning water off to their residences. Like if we can- Rationing water. Rationing water, yeah, exactly. Telling people that they can't grow grass on their lawns, telling people to take shorter showers, right? This is a sort of like anti-human degrowth nonsense that I'm trying to solve for at Rainmaker, right? And so if cloud seeding can improve and we can start to produce more water than just the amounts that we get from our ops now,
2:28:09 uh... i think as long as that's regulated appropriately would be a good thing and i also think that you know i mentioned indonesia thailand I don't think the science is good enough to justify these programs now, but they're researching how to do severe weather mitigation as well. That's going to be even more controversial, I imagine. But if there is a way to use physics and tech and engineering and do it prayerfully, then we should probably investigate ways to mitigate severe weather in the future. Yeah. And, you know, I wanted to talk about the future of it and you kind of get into it there. And we talked about the movie Twister.
2:28:44 how they go in there and they stop these these tornadoes from happening. But absolutely, it's like if we can stop a category five hurricane from destroying Florida, I'd say that's a good thing. If you can stop. uh... an f four from destroying missouri i'd say that's a good thing now you're you know you're you're playing with some stuff here that's okay it's a little questionable we gotta make sure we master it but it would be again just to localize it it's well known here up in lake travis i don't know how where you are of lake travis but if you have a house on lake travis they ration your water and you go to lake travis in june and the water will be way up to here you can go in the end of september and the water is way down to here
2:29:28 So people ration their water and it's like, if we can master our environment and do no harm, right? I mean, that's the ultimate goal is do no harm. It's like, if you can master this stuff and stop a drought from rationing water in California, rationing water in Phoenix, or you can perfect it and make sure you get the highest crop yield per year. I don't know if we're anywhere near that, we're maybe still playing some dangerous games, but it's like, I mean, you can have the moral debate, But again, it comes down to technology is a tool. It can be used for good or it can be used for bad. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And what I want is a more abundant and green and lush United States than we've ever had before, right? Like I don't want farms that have been operating for the last 200 years in the US to have to close down because they can't pump groundwater anymore and they're not getting the rain that they used to. Like that is the vision that I'm interested in. I'm interested in growth. I'm interested in
2:30:22 a I think there's a lot of debates about AI. I think AI is the biggest thing, the biggest threat we're facing we're not properly addressing. So I don't know if that answers your question. But yeah, I think the issues that we're potentially facing humanity with AI, I don't think we're properly addressing them. No, I don't think so either. And I think one problem with the discourse around AI, right? And this kind of was naturally gonna happen because the AI stuff comes from San Francisco. San Francisco is largely like a godless place.