POWERFUL TUESDAY BROADCAST: Former Congressman Curt Weldon Blows Whistle That 9/11 Was An Inside Job In Explosive Tucker Carlson Interview! PLUS, Putin Ready For “Permanent Peace” After Historic Meeting With Trump Envoy! — Must-Watch/Share FULL SHOW 4/15/25

00:00 While other networks lie to you about what's happening now, InfoWars tells you the truth about what's happening next. Visit InfoWars.com forward slash show and support the InfoWars. It's Tuesday, April 15th, 2025. Yesterday, former Congressman Kurt Weldon, who was on the key committees went on Tucker Carlson and wrote down the fact that 9-11 is a total inside government job and that all of Congress knew it even back on 9-11. He lays out the facts in the true to force interview. We have major excerpts coming up in the next segment. But ladies and gentlemen, understand that this is the linchpin that will bring down the entire globalist system. Here's a short excerpt right now. Do I think 9-11 is

00:56 going to be the biggest scandal in our lifetime and beyond? Yes, I think it's going to be the biggest scandal in the history of America because it occurred on US soil and because it is so recent that we have relevant information still available. We have recorded information. We have personal information. Once people realize they can talk and not be afraid of being killed, or not being afraid of being ostracized. And you know what gets me is reporters who call people conspiracy theorists. Well, that's all the agency does. They're the ones who create the conspiracies. I'm aware. I mean, cut me a break. I'm aware. They have whole courses for their agents on how to make people look like they're conspiracy theorists. And the propaganda operations they find to discredit.

01:41 Exactly. Right. And all we want is the truth, of course. So Trump appoint people of impeccable integrity. Let them study the facts. I will testify under oath everything I know about intelligence. Let these 3000 architects who are risking their careers making nothing, let them testify under oath. There has been this subtle pressure to the firefighters and to the officers not to talk for obvious reasons. You know what this involves politically. Look what happened to the chief of L.A. The female chief of LA comes out and says that the resources were taken away from her for the field forest fires. And what does the mayor do? She fires her. That was just a few weeks ago.

02:22 The firefighters are always a scapegoat. That's why, Tucker, I'm done with this. If it's the last thing I do, firefighters are not going to be taken for granted anymore. We're going to rise up. We're going to shake the country to its roots. Firefighters are not second-class citizens. Well, they certainly shouldn't be. But if they talk, they'll get sidelined. They'll be called crazies. Even though they heard explosions, they can't be allowed to say that. They heard explosions? Yeah, absolutely. It's on tape. We have people coming out of the buildings that heard explosions. We have film footage of people that talked to Fox News that was taken off the air and then now that was brought back by X. That's all available. That's why you need a commission to go back and look at all the lies. Wait, so there are, and pardon my ignorance, but there are people on tape saying I heard explosions. Yes, absolutely. 100%. They are the only high rise buildings in the world

03:14 that have ever come down from an airplane hitting them. And those buildings, I read the report from the architect who designed them, they were designed to withstand an airplane hitting the building and standing tall. And especially building seven, which had no plane hit it. Right. No plane hit it. And the building just, you can see it when you watch it on TV, it just implodes straight down. And what really got me again was the Orio Palmer, that Italian chief arising on the... Well, tell us who he was. What is... Okay, Oriol Palmer was one of the most inspirational battalion chiefs in New York. FDNY. FDNY, who immediately, very good shape, had a family, a couple of kids, went into the building as soon as they got on the scene, took the elevator up to the 40th floor.

03:57 Get off the elevator and you can hear him on the com system say I'm here 40th floor we're gonna start walking up the stairwells. Every five floors he radios back to communication I'm on the 50th floor everything's okay we're on floor 60 everything's okay he's going up every so many floors he gives a report he reaches the 78th floor the floor of impact he comes out of the stair tower. And as clear as you listening to me here, and I know I get passionate and I apologize to your listeners for that. He says, we're on floor 78, the floor of impact. We've got two fires and we can handle them. One minute later, the whole building collapses. That's not normal. That is not acceptable. That is not what happened. And this is on tape? It's on tape. You had three buildings come down, sort of collapse in on themselves, implode, it looked like.

04:51 And a lot of people have said, many credible non-crazy people have said that was controlled demolition. Was it? Well, when I got up there the day after, I had been in the Trade Center at the restaurant on the top several times. There's no way those two buildings could have collapsed into what they were. It's Tuesday, April 15th, 2025. It was 31 years ago that I launched our operations 31 years ago and look how far we have come now. The majority of the population worldwide now know about the globalists and hate them. The majority of the world population knows that 9-11 was an inside job. 90 plus percent of Americans in every major poll know that the CIA killed Kennedy. Their entire NGO globalist power structure is collapsing in real time.

05:48 And now, Tucker Carlson has interviewed Congressman Kirk Weldon, high-ranking congressman at the time, who was on the key committees, who learned the specific details that 9-11 was a multinational intelligence agency attack to help bring in their new world order, the Patriot Act, the Real ID, and all the systems you see today. About to air an excerpt from the in-depth interview. that is posted at realalexjones on X and obviously on Tucker Carlson's network that everybody needs to watch. But this is dealing with Stratus Ivy and the whistleblowers inside the Pentagon that exposed the fact that they knew 9-11 was coming and were basically ordered to stand down and then the CIA had that removed from the record. Building seven is the key though, controlled demolition on record. They admitted that day that they blew it up.

06:40 CNN, on BBC, but later told everybody to forget that and that you never saw it. What was inside the building? The CIA and FBI headquarters, 47 story building right next to Tower 1 and Tower 2. Here's some excerpts from the interview, then breaking news and analysis with Owen Schroeder and others. And I'll be on the broadcast later in the day. Other key reports will be followed as well. Major breaking news. Remember, you're the Paul Revere's, you're the Info Warriors. Share the live feed right now from real Alex Jones on X and info wars.com for slash show and be sure to follow our backup network in case they shut us down. They're very close, but we're going to keep fighting. We never surrender at AJN live on X. Now here's some excerpts of Kirk Weldon and Turner Carlson. That Tucker is treason. That means our agencies.

07:26 Our agencies use their position not for something involving our national security, but for involving a cover-up of a person's identity who was publicly approved by the Congress of the United States, appointed by the security advisor to President Bush. It's a massive cover-up. 9-11 was an inside job. The question is who was on the inside? Well, it was a consortium of Western intelligence agencies. They're gonna commit a big crime like this to launch a police state and all these wars. They all get in on it. The CIA, Mossad, MI6, they're all involved. And it's all come out. Every member of Congress then and now knows this. They're all just too scared to talk about it. It's come out in the USAID reports and the EPA money went to Al Qaeda, ISIS, Taliban, Biden handing over

08:16 to the Afghanis, 80 plus billion dollars in equipment. Then they use that to fund Al Qaeda to take over Syria. They use the threat to take our rights away. Here's the TSA can grope our testicles and put us through body scanners and face scanners. You're about to see a nine minute excerpt from the incredible interview below that is going viral today with the former congressman, true hero, Kurt Weldon, whose family and himself were targeted by the FBI for telling the truth. And you've got another great hero who ran the Pentagon anti-Al Qaeda operations who he talks about, who had his book edited by the CIA and blocked the key passages exposing that Zelikow, the so-called head of the 9-11 Commission, had already been briefed that al-Qaeda was planning the 9-11 attacks. But they were just the cutouts. They didn't run the attacks. So this is an incredible interview below. Be sure and watch it. Here's just an excerpt from the interview that just covers one huge area of this. It's absolutely incredible.

09:15 Great job Tucker Carlson, great job Congressman Kurt Weldon. It's patriots like you that have courage that are going to save civilization. Our general in charge of special operations on horseback was asked in this award-winning book, became a movie, on page 27, General, what were your thoughts when 9-11 happened? And he said, within seconds I knew who had done the attack and I knew it would involve Muhammad Ata. The inspector general for the Pentagon files a whistleblower paper. I have a copy of it. I'll give it to you. His name is John Crane. He asked for protection because his bosses in DIA refused to allow him to become a whistleblower when he told them that he was told to lie to the Congress. He was told to misinform the Congress. I have that in writing, Tucker. The 9-11 Commission is a cover up, 1000% cover up.

10:03 Zellekow was the lead of the cover-up. Philip Zellekow was the chairman. He was handpicked by Condoleezza Rice when Tony Schaefer met Zellekow over in Afghanistan. Because Zellicoe took a team through to see if there were soldiers who had maybe encountered some information about 9-11 in advance Tony Schaefer had been back deployed in Afghanistan at the time So he told his commanding officer I should talk to them because I was a part of a special team He met with Zellicoe they exchanged business cards and Kabul and Zellicoe said to him lieutenant colonel You've got to see me as soon as you get back to America. It's very important

10:42 When Tony went back to the States, they had shut down his office, locked his office, secured all his files, and they then worked to destroy his personal reputation. They tried to destroy his career. So you're saying what others have said before, which is that elements of the US government worked really, really hard to hide the fact that they could have prevented 9-11, that they had all the relevant information and for whatever reason ignored it. Well, first of all, the 9-11 report has no credibility. I don't believe anything that is in that. It's a bunch of garbage. It's a lot of paper that has no substance.

11:20 And I tend not to want to speculate on things that I can't prove 100% myself. Yes, I'm not willing to take a polygraph. What I can tell you unequivocally is there was a cover-up and before I answer your question, I would state one more fact. Tony Schaefer got approval from his commanding general after this whole thing happened throughout his memoirs. His memoirs are called Dark Heart. So he wrote the book. He had a publisher. The publisher, he went to his commanding general to review the book as his protocol. His commanding general said, fine, Tony, there's nothing there that's a problem. Publish it. Tony publishes the book. Our deep state finds out he's publishing the book. A cease and desist order is issued against the publisher. Stop publishing the book. It's too late. Our government, our government buys all 10,000 copies of the first edition of Dark Heart with taxpayer money.

12:12 and they destroy them. So I asked Tony on a show last September, as I've done many times, Tony, you have the original version of the book, right? Yes. Here it is, Congressman. You have the redacted version, right? Yes, here it is. What did they want out of your book that was so sensitive? What secret information were you giving Tony? What classified information did your boss not see? He said, Congressman, The only thing they wanted out of my book was the fact that I named Zellekal and that I had briefed him in advance. That, Tucker, is treason. That means our agencies, our agencies use their position not for something involving our national security, but for involving a cover-up of a person's identity who was publicly approved by the Congress of the United States, appointed by the security advisor to President Bush. It's a massive cover-up.

13:12 Passionate interview there on the Tucker Carlson show. That's the follow-up of the Alex Jones interview So a lot of pretty impactful stuff coming from Tucker Carlson now We are officially inside the Info Wars world headquarters in Austin, Texas live broadcasting on this Tuesday April 15th 2025 I will be your host for the remainder of of the transmission and into the war room, Owen Schroer. Now I have a ton of news on my desk here that we can get into. I suppose it's worth taking a moment to respond to this. Not to get into the direct detailed analysis of September 11th, inside job, everything else, but to just look at it as a milestone, as a Rosetta Stone for Americans to understand we were lied to about it,

14:18 And everything that happened after it is a result of that lie. And still today, we're paying the price for that lie. Still today, foreign policy, domestic policy, security apparatuses, a lot of culture still derives from that lie. And until we address and correct that lie, we're going to continue to pay the price in the aftermath

14:58 which still haunts us today. But it's really even, you could say worse than ever as the things that have been inflicted on us because of the lie of 9-11 now reaching new levels, the Patriot Act and then the new Patriot Act is coming to monitor your speech in the name of fighting anti-Semitism. But in a way, it all stems still from September 11th because we gave

15:38 that precedent of, oh, we're scared of this bad thing and so we're gonna give up our rights for the government to protect us. At that point it was terrorism, now it's anti-Semitism. But we're sitting here in 2025 and what I see happening, which is really unfortunate, because I got people that send me these messages and post about it every day here in Texas, this epic center, and it's a big Islamic center, big Muslim community that they're making here in Texas. So people have all this fuss about it and complaining about it saying, oh, you need to report on it and all this other stuff. And I'm just not buying into it because I realize what's happening here, which is unfortunate. And we need to get back to America, but it's pretty clear

16:42 that the strife, the war, the hatred, the violence, the vitriol that harbors in that region of the world in the Middle East, in Israel and its neighbors, is now in our country. And now we as Americans and a Christian nation have to sit here and deal with this. They can't figure it out in their own region of the world. They can't figure it out in Israel. They can't figure it out in the Middle East. And so now we have to deal with it. So now it has fully encompassed our country, this thousands year old holy war from the Middle East that even the countries in that region have said, we're out, we're done. You look at countries like Saudi Arabia and Egypt and UAE and Qatar,

17:43 And people say, hey, why aren't they doing something about Israel? Why aren't they doing something about the Palestinians? Because they're done! They've been dealing with this crap for thousands of years, folks. They're done! They want nothing to do with it! We should learn the lesson. But oh, we'll always be reminded, you know 9-11, radical Islamic terror, now they're building a facility. So what? So I'm supposed to live in fear? I'm supposed to give up my rights? What exactly am I supposed to do here? Start a nuclear war, start a war with Iran? What is it you want me to do? All based off a lie. And I'm sitting here reflecting on some of this commentary as the peace deals that the Trump team is trying to negotiate seem to be not going well. And I got a whole stack of geopolitical news and maybe we'll just dive into that. But I'm realizing listening to some of this commentary and then Netanyahu's speech over the weekend.

18:56 who's really fallen out of good favor with a lot of people, a lot of conservatives. I would have probably been neutral positive on Netanyahu for the first four years of Trump administration. Now I'm negative, super negative. Most people are that way. But you hear him talking about Israel's super weapon. You know, oh, Israel's not supposed to have nukes, but the big secret that everybody knows is they do. And then Netanyahu is up there bragging. Of course, it's almost like he's Just mimicking Trump. Trump comes out the other day and says, you know, we've got super weapons the world has never seen. You don't even know how powerful they are. The most powerful. So Netanyahu's like, oh, I like that. I want to say that. Oh, I want to be the tough guy now. Oh, so then Netanyahu's up there. We have this. We have the strongest weapons. We have most powerful weapons. You don't even know. Everybody knows you got nukes. But oh, but Iran can't have nukes, but Israel can have nukes. And then Netanyahu goes and brags about it.

19:56 And then you look at their Samson option and I am listening to this commentary and it hits me. And I as an American, I just want nothing to do with it. You guys wanna fight in the Middle East, holy wars? thousands of years old, just pass it down to your ancestors, you can never live in peace. I want nothing to do with it. I want nothing to do with it. And if you're a Jew or you're a Muslim and you wanna move to the United States of America for peace and liberate your gene line from that region, I don't blame you at all. And if you wanna come here, that's fine, but you're gonna assimilate and you're gonna leave that behind. You're not gonna bring that here, but now it's here.

20:40 But I'm sitting here listening to this and listening to Netanyahu and I'm realizing Israel is basically the ultimate jihad in the Middle East. What am I talking about? Well, we're not talking about radical Islamic terrorists that go to some event with a bomb strapped to them and look for demands or want to make a statement or whatever. Israel is basically an entire country with a nuke belt. And they're saying, well, we're gonna have our way or we're just gonna blow everyone up. How about that? And that's their sanction option. And Netanyahu pretty much comes out and says it. They're gonna have their way, they're gonna have their wars, or they've got the nuclear weapons, they'll just blow up the whole planet. Sweet, that sounds like a great ally to have. So this is where we're at. It's dominating the political discussion. Everybody sees it. They're trying to pass speech laws so that you don't even talk about it.

21:42 They're deporting people, they're making you pass a test now on the citizenship test to make sure you're not anti-Israel. I mean, so where does this all go? It has nothing to do with America, it has nothing to do with the American people. But now that region of the world that can't live in peace, can't figure it out, now they're coming over here and bringing it all here and now we have to deal with it. And quite frankly, Americans are sick of it. So Trump, of course, has the ultimate challenge. to try to bring peace to this part of the world and I think that's what he wants to do. I think he looks at that as maybe like one of the biggest things he could do is try to find peace in that region that's never been done. Like the ultimate feather in his cap. Good for the world, but at some point you just have to say, you know what? You guys can figure it out yourself. We're done. We're decoupling. If you can't figure it out, there's nothing we can do to help you. So try not to blow the entire planet up as you continue to squabble.

22:52 That'd be great. And then I wonder too, what is the real threat to Israel if the United States backs out? What is the real threat to Israel if they're no longer funding their security and backing them up militarily? Is Israel really a sitting duck? Do their neighboring countries really want to wipe them off the map? Or is that some weird geopolitical fear that they just can't get rid of? Like it's passed down in their genetics or something. But I just want nothing to do with it. And now it's every day, oh,

23:35 The Muslims are here invading and it's every day, oh Israel runs our country. She's like, I just want nothing to do with it. I want to hear about American manufacturing. I want to hear about American lumber. I want to hear about American steel. I want to hear about American aluminum. I want to hear about American gas, American energy. I want to hear about the American economy. And we just can't, just can't stop. But see it all goes back to 9-11. It all goes back to 9-11 because oh now Now the Islamic world is a threat and that happens to be Israel's enemy. So, ah, yes, beautiful. Now we can go after Israel's enemy because they attacked us on 9-11, which is the big lie. So we do need to correct that. There should be another 9-11 commission. But I wonder where do the American people, generally speaking, stand on that?

24:43 Because my guess would be where you'd be 20 years ago, do you think 9-11 was an inside job? 90% of people would say no. 10 years ago, do you think 9-11 was an inside job? 80% of the people would say no. Now, what do you think we're at, 70, 60, 50%? I mean, I would say most people probably doubt it now. You might even be reaching a point where most Americans doubt the official 9-11 narrative. So we're gonna have more on that and Alex may have more on that coming up. maybe today or tomorrow at Infowars.com, but let's just use that and then we'll get into the rest of this geopolitical news with China, with the EU, and then what this migrant crisis is doing to America and the rest of the civilized world that at least has the open borders. You notice Asian countries don't have this problem because they don't have open borders.

30:52 from Shenzhen, China and it shows an overhead shot in 1982 and then what it looks like today and it's a pretty incredible thing. It looks like it goes from, well it goes from a nothing, goes from essentially a desert wasteland into a sprawling metropolis right out of a science fiction futuristic comic book. So people see it and they say, well, how did this happen in 50 years? Less than 50 years. Say, how could this be? And it's not just China, by the way, but you can look at multiple cities in China. You can also look at multiple cities in multiple countries in the Middle East, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, very similar thing. Desert wasteland, less than 50 years, sprawling, beautiful, advanced metropolis. Well,

32:00 If you look at American cities in the 80s, most you will see have actually gone the opposite direction. And while skylines might be building and expanding, you zoom in and it's a totally different picture. The poverty rates, the homelessness, the drug addiction, the derangement all on the streets. So where foreign countries have taken a desert wasteland and turned it into a sprawling metropolis. The United States of America has had their sprawling metropolises turned into third world hell holes. Now this is all about foreign policy. This is all about taxes, regulations, making it harder to live in the American city, making it

33:00 less cost-effective to manufacture in the American city. So they outsourced all the jobs, they outsourced all the companies. We then ran at a trade deficit with all these foreign countries and so that's what you get. Now our politicians, the DC criminal class is more rich and powerful than ever, but the average American totally disenfranchised as our wealth has been given to foreign countries. And this has taken place over 50 years and now Donald Trump is in here trying to take 50 years of damage and fix it and bring it all back. And so that's what the trade war is all about. That's what the tariffs are all about. And you could use many different examples, but this image right here represents how America has been raped with bad foreign policy, specifically with trade.

34:03 We don't get the new futuristic cities. Our cities are falling apart even. While all over the world, they're taking desert wastelands and turning them into massive futuristic cities. While our wealth is being taken from our cities and given out all around the world and our politicians benefiting. So that is where all of this really begins. And they want to act like, oh, it's starting with Trump. It's all Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump. No. No, Trump's trying to course correct something that's been destroying us for years. Now here's, I got a whole stack of this, trade war escalation, China bans all rare earth mineral exports to the United States because Trump refuses to surrender and accept the Chinese century. Apparently they're also not going to be buying Boeing jets anymore, at least for the time being. And you see this and you could say,

35:11 This is bad because the rare earth minerals and pharmaceutical products and everything else that China basically has the monopoly on, well this could hurt us. But this is why we have to look internally at ourselves and we have to admit that we, the American people, are partly responsible for this. Yeah, we've been lied to by our politicians and our media, but at the end of the day, if you want to live in a republic, then you as a citizen have to be informed and activated and specifically for the United States of America, you have to be willing and able to be independent. Well, we have become dependent on China and that's all over the news. US is dependent on China for X, Y, and Z. China has a monopoly on all this, we're dependent. Well, that's a problem. So you could look at this and say, well, are you dependent on China? Probably not, but a lot of people are dependent

36:23 on their pharmaceutical drugs. A lot of people are dependent on their cheap labor. So that's when you lose your ability as an American to be independent. We had to give that up, and we did. And China took advantage of it. And so now here we are, dependent on China, and we're saying, we can't have this trade war. Americans can't benefit. Americans can't have good policy. Americans can't manufacture. We're dependent on China now. So we've given up our independence.

37:02 And that's a problem. Shouldn't be this way. Shouldn't be concerned about what happens in China, that it will change your life or even ruin your life. But that's where you're at because we're no longer independent. Price hikes are coming at lightning speed. So they ignore it for four years under Joe Biden. Now it's price hikes, price hikes, price hikes. And really the price hikes, if you compare it to the four years of Biden, they're not really, I mean, It's barely a blip on the radar, but no. See, under Biden, they don't want to talk about it. They're not going to talk about prices going up across the board, cost of living going up, everything else. Not under Biden, the controlled puppet, the Democrat, but under Trump, now it's, oh, he's going to cause your cost of living to go up. It's all his fault. As if you didn't notice the prices going up for four years previously. US's inability to replace rare earths supply from China poses a threat to its defense, even our military.

38:08 dependent on China. That's a problem. Shouldn't be this way. Doesn't have to be this way. So this is gonna go back and forth for some time. But see, the media now, if they were pro-America, if we were Team America, would be rallying behind Trump. They'd be explaining all of this, like Trump's team is trying to do. And we'd be unified. And they'd say, yeah, well, okay, there's gonna be a little bit of a bump in the road here.

38:46 It's gonna be some obstacles, but the goal is really to have free trade. But the first goal is to make America independent again so that we don't have to rely on China. To make America a manufacturing hub again so that we don't have to outsource cheap labor. That's the goal, but they don't communicate that. They just want you to blame Trump for everything. They don't want to rally America so that we can have a better economy, have a better future. No, no, no, no. They want to remind you you're dependent on China, you're dependent on a foreign country, you better shut up and blame Trump for all of this. So that's the latest there. And then you have the peace deal is not going so well. Now the Trump administration came out and said the Iran nuclear talks are going well, but who knows the truth there.

39:39 Another US aircraft carrier in Mideast waters ahead of second round of US Iran nuclear talks, so we're continuing to Have a military presence there as the second round of talks again the Trump administration says it's going well Trump administration has said its goal is to denuclearize The world oh that would be pretty good accomplishment, so maybe the deal is going well Maybe not, but he's gonna be I don't think

40:20 Israel will be satisfied with an Iran nuke deal. I think Israel wants regime change in Iran and they want to have some say in the process beyond just the nuclear deal. But Iran is going to continue to push back and say, hey, how come Israel gets to control our nuclear fate, but they get to have nuclear weapons? So this is just, it seems to be at a stalemate, but the Trump administration says it's going well, so we will see. And then there's the efforts in Ukraine. Putin wants permanent peace deal after meeting with Trump envoy Witkoff and dictator Zelensky refusing to negotiate end of war. Zelensky refuses to negotiate peace with Russia. And then there's another 60 minutes propaganda piece which Trump is hitting 60 minutes pretty hard today. We'll cover that later. EU Council considers deploying military advisors to Ukraine. So the killing is maybe, it might be worse than ever.

41:28 Russia's not backing down. And I think if you're Russia at this point, you realize that Ukraine is almost out of the fight. Ukraine is almost out of men. I mean, they could kill their entire population, I guess. Zelensky could just throw them all to the slaughter. But Ukraine is out of fighting men. They are going to be out of money and weapons soon as well. The Trump administration is not so excited to send anything else. So I think Russia sees it now with all the leverage Why would they negotiate peace until they get exactly what they want? So it seems like Russia's not backing off and they've initiated a few strikes recently. They've been pretty bad. So that's just falling apart. But Zelensky refuses to even come to the table. So you gotta wonder what the hell's going on with Zelensky. This guy who is a dictator now, he's officially a dictator. He doesn't have any elected power.

42:35 All the emergency powers that he enacted years ago have all expired. So he's not even legally the president anymore. He has sent hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians to die. It's so bad most of the Ukrainians now don't even want to fight anymore. So they have to yank them out of their homes, yank them out of their cars if they find them on the streets, force them into service. It's a total disaster. Zelensky is basically saying we can't repay the United States. We're not going to. So peace in Ukraine also falling apart and Zelensky not even showing up to negotiate. J.D. Vance has been a, I think a really pleasant surprise. Well, I don't know if surprise is the right word, but he's, I think he's exceeded expectations as the vice president. J.D. Vance comes out and says Europe cannot remain the permanent security vassal of the United States. And he's right. Well, we should just get out of NATO is what we should do. But I understand why Trump doesn't want to do it.

43:47 Because it's all negotiation leverage with Trump. Trump wants to get something out of the EU, or Trump wants to get something out of these European countries, or Trump wants to get a deal done in Ukraine, and things don't go his way, he says, well, okay, I'll tell you what then, we're just gonna go ahead and pull out of NATO, how about that? And then the European countries say, whoa, whoa, whoa, hey, now hold on, let's not do anything crazy here. We still want your money, I mean, come on. We, the European countries here, we and NATO, we still want your money. Let's just hold on, man. You know, hold on. Maybe we can negotiate something. So Trump just uses it all as leverage. Trump knows we should be out of NATO. Trump knows it's virtually defunct, other than to try to keep Russia as the boogeyman and then keep tensions in the region there so that it can have an excuse to exist.

44:47 so that they can take our money. So Trump understands that the whole thing is a giant boondoggle, but he knows it's an important negotiation piece for leverage. So he keeps it there and kind of uses it. But Vance is right. We can't sit here and pay for the security of the world, specifically for Europe for the rest of time. Cannot do it. It's unacceptable. We should not do it. It's time for these countries to just fend for themselves. And it's really saying something. Would their foreign policies change? Would their approach and their tactics to foreign policy change if the United States was not there backing them financially and militarily? And obviously the answer is yes, which says an awful lot, doesn't it? We have the most leverage in the world. And a lot of these countries, so-called our allies, a lot of these countries, they don't want the US to pull out the financial support, the military support, because they know then all of a sudden they would have to rearrange all of their policies

45:49 all of their tactics. So that really says a lot, but J.D. Vance is right. As Trump calls it, the piggy bank of the world, the United States as the piggy bank of the world, it's time for it to end. The United States military as the fighting force for the world, it's time for that to end. It's time to make America great again. It's what it's called. EU reverses course and is now willing to renegotiate trade deal with the US. Ah, and there it is. And there it is. So they all want a tough guy, they all want to puff up their chest, but then when it's time to play, oh yeah, that's right, you need us, don't you? That's right, that's what I thought. Okay. Oh, we're gonna pull out of NATO. No, please, we want your money! No! Oh, okay, let's negotiate some trade then. Okay, we'll negotiate trade. Alright. Just keep giving us the money, please. We love the money! We love that money so much! We need that money! Oh, give us the money.

46:50 So that's where all the levers come from, folks. And see, it's unfortunate, but this is the case. The leverage that Trump has right now is the fact that our military is the most powerful and acts in the favor and interest of all these other countries. And we also financially back them. So that's unfortunately the case where all of our leverage comes from. Trump is trying to pivot that leverage into not just the United States of America having the best consumer economy, but also the United States of America having the best manufacturing, production and energy economy. And that's the real goal with the trade deals. That's the real goal with this foreign policy.

47:35 We don't want our leverage and our use is for people taking our money and using our military. We want it to be the greatest consumer economy and the greatest, or at least competitive as one of the greatest manufacturing economies. And by the way, guys, see if there's anything in the news about this, because I've been following this and tracking this. I believe it was Google and Apple that came out with a statement now. And when you understand all this, you're just light years ahead of the rest of the news media. And then Trump said it last week. But when you look at chip manufacturing, I think it was either NVIDIA or AMD that just announced they're gonna be the first big manufacturing hub for super computer microchips in the United States. And that's just part of the $7 trillion that Trump has got to come in. So there's gonna be multiple semiconductors, computer chip facilities. But now it's like, hey, we're gonna get out in front of this. We're gonna do a media blitz.

48:37 We're gonna say we're the first, we're in America, we're making microchips in America. Yeah, it's AMD, thank you guys. Ready to start production, AMD prepares for first made in America chip. So now it's like, okay, now we're gonna raise the flag on this. Now it's gonna become a public statement. Hey, look, we make our chips in America. And then that's gonna become the trend and then others are gonna wanna do it, but the money's already coming in. But now it's Apple and I think Google and Apple, I forget who said it, Well, they've known this, it's been well known, and Google has some other facilities that are already doing this, but they're going to build, they're going to have to build nuclear power plants. So look at this, Apple chips will be made in US at faster pace, says TSMC. I think that's the Taiwan manufacturing company working with Apple. Yeah, that's TSMC, Taiwan.

49:36 So now it's like the race is to come to America and raise the American flag and say, hey, look Americans, we're in America now. We're making American made products now, buy with us. And then Apple and Google are saying, we have to build nuclear plants. We're gonna be the AI hub of the world. We're gonna be the manufacturing hub of the world. We're gonna have to build nuclear power plant facilities now. I mean, this is like going from a V4 engine to a V16. So this is what Trump is really trying to do. And it's just so gross, the anti-American media, they don't even care. Maybe they realize it, maybe they don't. They don't even care. Their number one priority is anti-Trump, whether it's because they think it gets the most views, or because they just hate Trump, or because they're bought and paid for it to be against America. They've invested in the fall of America, maybe it's all of the above. But that's what's so frustrating is,

50:39 And this is why they always try to tear Trump down and divide us over Trump. This should be when American pride is at its peak. This should be when America is more unified than ever. And we should be saying, hey, you know what? We're in a process right now. There might be some pain. There's gonna be some bumps in the road. But ultimately, where we're going is going to be much better than where we're at now. And we can see that in the future. No, no, no, they're not They're not reporting on it like that. They're telling you Trump is a buffoon, he's getting crushed on trade. Oh, it's a trade war? No, no, no, the trade war has been against the United States. Trump is finally fighting back. But all of this is good news for the economy. As long as we can avoid war, I see this all going well and it's not going to take too long. You'll start having some of these things up and running probably a year or two, and then they're going to click the energy on, and then the tax cuts are going to start hitting

51:46 And you're gonna see it, folks. You're gonna see an economy booming. It will happen. And there'll be more job opportunities and everything else. So that's what the media should be reporting on and showing a sense of American pride and independence on. But they just can't help themselves. No. I guess they'd rather live in the unsafe United States. El Salvador now safer than the United States or France. It's crazy to think But it's true, but see the most important story out of El Salvador is that it shows you it's possible. It shows you where there's a will, there's a way. Ukele said, I wanna clean up the streets. I wanna make El Salvador safe again. I want people to come here to travel and feel safe. I want the citizens here to feel safe. We're gonna get it. We're gonna get all the gang members. We're gonna round them up. We're gonna mass imprison the violent criminals and we're gonna turn this country around. And they've done it in a very short period of time.

52:49 showing that it is possible. And now the United States, the average metropolitan area in the United States is more dangerous than El Salvador, which used to be the murder capital of the world, and they turned it all around in less than a decade. Even Austin, Texas, 10 years ago didn't have these problems, but now it's a major booming metropolitan city, far-left Democrats taking it over. Now even Austin's crime rates are skyrocketing. Homicide rates skyrocketing. It's not uncommon. Some parts of Austin you'll hear gunshots regularly. It's just, you know, that's just Austin, Texas now. And you've got the liberal judges and liberal attorneys that make sure the criminals are out on the streets and the police are defunded. Yeah, because that's how people want to live.

53:41 They wanna live in violent third world metropolitan areas because, hey, at least we're liberal and progressive. At least we can sleep well with our bleeding hearts. Well, you might literally be bleeding to death, but at least you're liberal and progressive. Yeah, the air of superiority as the left just destroys the American cities.

54:17 and the greater politicians out of Washington DC's policies have shipped our wealth overseas. Not just our money, but I mean our wealth, our power in production and manufacturing and having a stable job market. They've done it all. Meanwhile, they've opened the borders so that the third world dregs can come in here with a welfare state to collapse the economy and make your cities even less safe. By the way, and they're doing this all over Europe, new numbers out of Europe. It's crazy, folks. These countries that have opened their borders with the refugee and the asylum stuff, folks, it is collapsing their crime rates into just insane numbers. We wrote the book together on the modern information war and how to take down the tyrannical globalists.

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58:46 We're in this fight together. We can't do it without you. So thank you so much for your past support. The bleeding heart liberals open their borders because they're just so loving and kind. And well, getting into a bed of rattlesnakes is no problem and putting a bunch of rattlesnakes in your house should be just fine. Cuz you love those rattlesnakes, but then when they bite you and kill your family, well, it's a problem. Nearly half of all crime suspects in Austria last year were foreigners.

59:50 Police stats show that's pretty telling. Imagine your crime rate goes up 50% and you find out it's all criminals from foreign countries. And I love the excuse and you see it all the time, the left, the Democrats, the liberals always have to defend death. They always have to defend the results of their open border policies and they say things like, well, you know that the crime rate And they always don't even use the right words. They say, the crime rate amongst immigrants is lower than the crime rate amongst citizens. Immigrants are citizens. So what exactly are you actually saying? I'm not even sure you know what you're saying. Are you saying that the crime statistics amongst illegal immigrants? Because that's actually a 100% crime rate with illegal immigrants. It's 100%. But okay, let's throw out

1:00:55 I guess you have to throw out the crime of illegally entering the country and then maybe that's where they get their percentages. But they have to defend it. Hey, you know people are coming into this country committing crime. Yeah, but you know, so do Americans. Hey, have you seen the crime statistics going up? It's all foreigners coming in here. The gangs coming out of the Venezuelan prisons and everything else. Well, but migrants commit less crimes than Americans. So what? Half crime suspects in Austria foreigners. That's insane Senegalese alien confesses to murder of Italian security guard It's just all day illegal aliens invade German high-rise 15 year old falls to his death. Yeah Sweden's civilizational shift number of mosques surges 4,200 percent in 25 years. So what is this about? Well, I

1:01:58 a lot of these Muslim countries have dealt with violence and fighting between different Islamic groups and those power struggles and ideologies. And so they leave their countries looking for a better life, and then they go to Western countries and European countries, and then the problems that they have in their Islamic countries end up becoming the problems of these European countries or America, these Western countries. But I wonder if these same numbers could be applied to I don't know. Anything else going into Islamic countries? Are you seeing synagogues increase in Islamic countries? I don't think so. Are you seeing Catholic churches increase in Islamic cities? I don't think so. So it's all a giant export and you, the Western world, you're just supposed to watch your culture dissipate. You're just supposed to watch your countries get invaded.

1:03:00 And this is supposed to be normalized and liberal, and if you say anything about it, you're the bad guy. Or maybe now, you might even be the criminal. Oh yeah, some of these European countries, they will arrest you for speech crimes. How dare you say anything about these loving migrants? How dare you say anything about your Christian country no longer Christian anymore? By the way, We got a couple of lawyers coming up. We got one coming up next with lawsuits against Fauci and then later on the show we've got Tommy Robinson's lawyer to give you an update on that situation, a man sitting in prison for speech. So second hour of the Alex Jones Show underway, here we go. Well people, rightfully so, want to see Anthony Fauci facing charges in a courtroom or even a jail cell.

1:03:49 And so one legal group is taking action to try to move the ball on that, and that is the Vyers Law Group. And joining us now with them is Rachel Rodriguez, and they have been fighting this for years in at least seven states that I know of. There is a development on this situation. They put out press releases in these states from the Vyers Law Group. as far as the criminal referrals to Anthony Fauci is concerned in the state. So Rachel joins me now to give us an update. Rachel, I know it's been a years-long battle for you and your law group. So where are we at today? I think that, you know, the public, the court of public opinion, the public discourse is certainly in your favor, but it's a little different story when you're dealing with these legal cases. Other things come into play here. So where are you at right now with the criminal referrals to Fauci?

1:04:44 Thank you, Juan, for having me. And I really appreciate that InfoWars is putting attention on this for the victims and their families. So right now, what we have done is we've put together a petition. It is a criminal referral. We have submitted in seven states, as you mentioned, to the attorneys general there and also over 30 district attorneys or county attorneys. So that would be your local prosecutors where victims have come forward to our firm and to the former feds group and have said we, our loved ones were killed in the hospital and we believe that there's criminal activity. And so we put together the evidence demonstrating that there is a COVID criminal enterprise. This is an entire, as I said, it's an enterprise. There are criminal elements all the way through resulting in the death and injury of thousands of Americans across the country. So we're going state by state and combating

1:05:37 compiling this information as well as bringing forward specific victims with their names to prosecutors asking them to look into this, investigate. And we believe there's probable cause for the charges we've identified in our briefs and we're asking for prosecution as a result. Well, before I get into those details, is there a source where people can go and if they feel they've been victimized by this or they have families that died from this, is there a place where they can go if they want to get involved in this? Absolutely. Our law firm, you can reach out to V-I-R-E-S-L-A-W dot group. I believe you have that URL. They can reach out to us there. There is a way to contact us. Do bear with us. We are a small firm, but we will reach out to you if you put your information. Well, and getting into these details, the protocols that Fauci put forward

1:06:40 And I guess if this is the direction you guys are taking, the protocols that Fauci took forward resulted in death. I think, you know, the numbers were like 98% of COVID deaths happened inside of the hospitals. I mean, these are pretty damning things. Is that kind of the main thrust of these criminal referrals to say, hey, look, it was the protocols, it was the standards that did this, and then look, you can even see it based off of these statistics of where people died? That's absolutely right, Owen. You have the protocols that were coming from federal agencies that were putting this forward. Then you also have CARES Act money that was coming through two hospital administrations. We have named, not by name specifically, but generally the hospital administration state by state. They were the ones that said we'll take this money. We're talking billions of dollars. We'll take this money in order to pay for specific

1:07:36 countermeasures that come under PrEP Act. And so these were the treatments, so to speak, that were the only treatments allowed in most cases, even if somebody was suffering, say, from a heart attack or some other medical condition. If they came into the hospital and there was a positive test, even if there wasn't a positive COVID test, then protocols would be put in place and there was a lot of money changing hands, including a 20% bonus on all payments for all treatments for the countermeasures if there was a positive COVID test. What about Anthony Fauci's history? I mean, COVID was not the first time this guy was a factor when it comes to health protocols. There was a very popular movie, Dallas Buyers Club, where the bad guy, the idea of the bad guy in that film is based off of the Fauci policies during the AIDS epidemic. Does that come into play at all when you're considering your strategies with these criminal referrals, these lawsuits?

1:08:42 Well, I think it just tells us that the evidence that we're seeing and the conclusions, the very horrendous conclusions that it leads to this is not the first time. But Fauci is not the only person that we have identified by name. We have Rochelle Walensky, we have Rick Bright, Ralph Baric. We have all of that in the brief that I believe I've sent to your show. And there were many, many administrators. We have Janet Woodcock, people that were engaged in the enterprise, their actions, their policymaking, the way they

1:09:16 push for certain emergency use authorization versus say investigative drug licensing from the FDA. All of these things put together created an environment in which there was basically a shuttle like a shoot. You could only treat what was considered to be COVID infection, potential COVID infection with certain countermeasures that would then gain certain amount of money. And so all of these people are involved. Fauci is the name that we know, but there was a lot of people implicated and that's why this requires an investigation.

1:09:54 You know, you mentioned all of these different names that most people will recognize from the COVID lockdowns and the mandates and the masks and the vaccines and everything else that came along with that, that just horrendous time in our lives. It's almost like a nightmare that never even happened, but we all lived through it. What is their motivation here? Is it a Is it a power thing? Is it a money thing? I mean, what do you look at this as far as the why? Why did they wanna do this to us? That is the huge trillion dollar question, isn't it, Ellen? I don't wanna get into the mind of anyone else. I do wanna say though, whatever the motivations were, they were evil and there needs to be repentance and there needs to be accountability. I can say that a mental

1:10:45 And We know that these treatments, these countermeasures are harming our patients. We're not going to do it. Or on the hospital side, we're not going to take the money. We're not going to play the game. And they suffered tremendously, potentially even having to close their doors. Medical providers lost their licenses. So something very, very evil occurred. And that's why the American people are clamoring for an investigation and prosecution. There needs to be accountability. We cannot let this happen again.

1:11:29 What about doctors here? I'm just looking at all the different angles. Doctors that were forced to go along with these protocols, you mentioned the hospitals with the financial incentives. Does this issue start and stop with the administration like some of the names that you've mentioned here? Could could even maybe doctors get involved and say hey I was misled by these protocols and now I know I feel that I've had to engage in medical malpractice because of that or Are they gonna have to have a defense strategy if Fauci and the administration goes down? What about what about as far as like how how far the tentacles for this go?

1:12:12 That's it. That's a it's very sad to think about because so much of our society was under coercion under manipulation. I mean part of the enterprise as we've identified it in our brief is that those in policy making positions and those holding the purse strings so to speak were also improperly illegally using social media platforms and other legacy media to to pound a particular a particular narrative through. And again, you know, certain treatments good, other treatments bad, and we know that to be false. There's been lawsuits filed. The FDA was actually engaged in saying that ivermectin was just for animals.

1:12:56 This is all part of the enterprise. This is why this needs to be looked at and where all of these, as you said, the tentacles go, we need to be willing as a society to see where that goes. We have not identified lower level policymakers or providers because I think we really need to start where the money's coming through. And we need to see what's going on. Somebody in enterprising prosecutor needs to look at carefully and then we as a nation need to be willing to see where this goes. And I want to encourage, and my law firm has encouraged any health care provider who did see what was going on, understood it, wanted to speak out. We have asked them to come forward. There were very brave whistleblowers at the time. There are now

1:13:46 And I think people will recognize those who are willing to have the courage to stand up and give their testimony and say this is what I saw to help prosecutors to bring those who are culpable to justice. Now, is this something where these individuals will stay focused on Fauci, but there are obviously other names involved here. Is this a situation where Anthony Fauci is going to have to get himself a legal defense team? I don't know if you already know, does he have a legal defense team? Or is this something that kind of falls under these other parameters of government immunity. We know there are a lot of immunity protocols, especially dealing with vaccines and such, with other policies like the emergency use authorization. How much of the immunity and legal protection is Fauci granted because he was working for a government bureaucracy versus he's going to as an individual need a legal defense?

1:14:47 All right, that's been a really interesting question and dialogue amongst lawyers. One, I would say, I think we understand that the pardons that were put out in the last administration have now been voided. But even if they were in place for Fauci or any of these other individuals personally, it does not affect going after crimes committed under state codes by state law enforcement. And that's a primary reason that we have approached this on a state by state basis. We've gone to law enforcement in the state under their jurisdiction in accordance with their state code. These things are not affected by federal pardons. And again, when an individual has acted in a criminal manner, this would be outside of their authority as an individual in the bureaucracy.

1:15:38 or any other kind of sovereign immunity or qualified immunity that might exist. That's our understanding and that's what we've outlined in these briefs, is that there is cause to prosecute these individuals on an individual basis, on a personal basis. Because what they did cannot at any point in time be considered within the authority, you don't have authority as a health administrator to kill people, to knowingly give them treatments that are lethal and injurious. That is simply not within the authority that's been granted and so they should not get any immunity on that basis. What has the response been in the seven states where you have filed these criminal referrals? Have you heard back from attorneys general or where is the response at right now?

1:16:32 Well, I'm excited to announce to everyone and this was in our press releases because we think this is really good news. There are two open investigations at county levels. We'd love to see statewide investigations and obviously prosecution. Two open investigations on the basis of the evidence we've presented is huge. And that's much better than, that's bigger than we've had for quite some time. As you mentioned previously, Owen, we have been working on this. I personally have been trying to pursue this avenue since late 2021. And our first filing, I say filing, our submission to the attorney general in Florida was in October of 2023.

1:17:15 So we are hearing from attorneys general. In some cases, the state criminal procedure does not allow the attorney general to pursue this kind of investigation or prosecution without a criminal referral from a county attorney. And where that occurs, then we have made sure that we've presented our petition to the county prosecutors. And we've asked them respectfully to open it up at a statewide level. We've demonstrated in each one of our petitions that there are dozens of victims that want to come forward and they represent thousands of victims in each state. And so there is grounds to investigate this at a state level and so that's what we're asking for.

1:18:03 Well, and I opened the show for other victims if they wanted to get involved with this. Does that help? The more victims, the more names that get on board with this, does that help your cause? Absolutely. Look, this is, it should not be. Well, somebody was frankly murdered under Medicare. Should not be a partisan political issue. This stuff affects all of us. people might have. So, and especially at the law level as well, there's so much of this, there's some, and back to sort of all the different branches and tentacles. So having more of the American

1:18:54 We're having a bit of a connection issue here, hoping to get re-established here. Rachel Rodriguez, Attorney Rachel Rodriguez and our guest from the Vyers Law Group. We're talking about the criminal referrals to Anthony Fauci in seven states right now. We're getting an update from her with some breaking news that she has today. uh... rachel i'm assuming you can hear me this point we had a bit of a connection issue where you mentioned earlier the pardons which appear to be fake c appears to be a forgery on the signature there what what where you are at with the pardons right now is that something you're gonna have to get into a legal fight with as an obstacle are these pardons and i'm actually coming okay well it uh... it looks like we are uh... unable to

1:19:49 recapture her feed there. Okay, okay. We'll try to recapture that with a more stable connection. Again, that's Rachel Rodriguez, attorney from the Vyers Law Group, seven different states where they've had criminal referrals and then we got her on because they recently made the press release talking about an update with the support from former Feds Group Freedom Foundation and they have more whistleblowers and more victims coming forward. And so earlier, and I'll get her to talk about it again, where you can go if you or a loved one feels that you were also a victim of these protocols, the hospital protocols, or the vaccines, and the mandates, anything else where you can get involved. I do want to hear more about the pardon issue

1:20:45 the preemptive pardon for Anthony Fauci. There were obviously multiple preemptive pardons from the Biden administration, from Joe Biden supposedly, before he left the White House. But nobody's so sure Biden even knew what the hell was going on. And that itself is a crazy story. Joe Biden, the fake president, stole an election. And then who's even running the White House? Joe Biden didn't even know what was going on at the time. His debate performance was so bad Well, the story becomes did they intentionally put him out there so that they could remove him? Or did they put him out there? Because that was the earliest presidential debate I think ever, definitely in modern history, the earliest presidential debate. So is it like a test run? It's like, hey, let's do this before we really get into the election season and let's just see if Biden can even hack it.

1:21:40 He couldn't, so they gave him the hook. Or was it a, hey, let's send Biden out there for the debate so that he does flub and we can give him the hook. So they knew he was incapable the entire time. And notice, have you heard or seen Joe Biden since the inauguration? No, has he even gotten out of bed? Is he even able to walk? It's funny how he just disappeared, isn't it? So we have attorney Rachel Rodriguez reconnected. We'll finish this interview on the phone. Rachel, before we broke off there, I was just getting into the pardons which appear to be a forgery, these preemptive pardons which included Anthony Fauci. What is that like as far as the legal obstacles? Is that something that's going to be a separate legal battle? Are they null and void officially because it's been determined a forgery or where is that at?

1:22:32 Well, yeah, I apologize for the breakup here. I do want to let your listeners know I'm actually in another part of the state. That's why I'm traveling because we're going to meet with the administration of a hospital in which many of our, the victims that have come forward, their loved ones died. So this is going to be informative here. That's my connectivity issues. To answer your question, so as to the pardons, my understanding is that those are void. But even if they were not, this is what's so important about the process by which we've done our particular submission. Because these are requests for investigation from local and state prosecutors, we're asking them to look into their state code. So this is not, nothing that relates to the pardon is going to pardon state criminal activity.

1:23:24 So that's a really important avenue. There's obviously federal crimes that we believe have been committed, but we're not focused on that because we want to be able to divide out where we think that we can gain some ground on accountability and where there might be some legal landmines. Yeah, that's like a whole other thing. I can't even imagine where this thing goes because admitting it was a forgery, well now Now you have to go after whoever committed that crime. And I'm not, that's obviously not, I don't know if that's something you would get involved in, but that's a whole nother legal fight where now you're gonna have to go after whoever's doing this ferguery and then that opens up the entire Biden administration as a potential fraud. So that's certainly a big development and your case could be one of the big breaking moments to figure out where that goes. All right, Rachel, one more time though, if there's other people listening to this that wanna become

1:24:21 witnesses or victims, where can they go to help bring more momentum to this? Absolutely. They can go to Vireslaw, V-I-R-E-S-L-A-W dot group. You can reach out to us. There is a place there where you can put your information, your contact information, your name, and what state you're contacting us from. And we have had a lot of people, whistleblowers, we've had victims, victim families. There are some people who survived these horrendous treatments. Everybody is coming, we're so grateful. Do bear with us, we are a small firm, but we want to make sure that we reach out to everyone who would like to get involved, and especially those who have information and they want to see justice done.

1:25:06 We'd absolutely love to talk to you. And to your point, Owen, this is a COVID criminal enterprise. One of the charges that we believe there's probable cause to bring against the individuals we've named is RICO charges. Nearly every state, I believe every state has anti-black keyring laws. So this is something that we've seen. So to your point, there are all these different points along the way in the enterprise that are unlawful and criminal and hopefully our project, maybe someone else will have an opportunity to sort of crack through that and then from there we'll be able to see where the rest of the enterprise is and bring accountability and justice for Americans. Rachel Rodriguez, I thank you for your time. Vireslaw.group again is the website and this is a

1:25:56 This is a justice that America desperately needs and a truth that needs to be revealed. And so we wish your self and your law firm Godspeed in your pursuit and we will continue to cover it. Rachel, thank you for your time. Thank you, Owen. Appreciate it. All right, when we come back, we got big border news with Ryan Mata. Don't go anywhere. This is a review for the ultra methylene blue from the Alex Jones store. I usually don't do reviews like this, but just wanted to compare it to this Earth Harmony Ultimate Methylene Blue. And so basically I've been taking the Earth Harmony for a while until Alex Jones came out with the Ultra Methylene Blue. And I must say that it does a damn good job.

1:28:15 is I don't know if anybody's done better work in the documentary film space than Ryan Mata. And he's got another one coming out soon. He posts everything on his X. Almost all of his work is free now as well. He's had some paid documentaries, some free, but each one gets more powerful than the last. Here's a quick trailer before Ryan joins us of Operation Amber Alert coming to X soon. Where's the FBI anti-human trafficking task force? Where do we report these cases? The answer that came to me was trafficking is not an issue in this population. What were some of these horror stories that these children were telling you? Every once in a while you'd hear about, you know, I was raped on the way, but it's okay because my mom gave me birth control before I left.

1:29:03 The way that this organization is ran, it's designed to move bodies. Oh yeah, just move bodies. Massive amounts of bodies. It's not designed to protect these children. It's designed to exploit them. Exactly. And accelerate the exploitation process. Exactly. So the system is working exactly as it's designed. And it's designed to traffic children. Underage children are giving birth. We're talking about girls how old? 15, 12 to 16 is what I saw. Everyone should be talking about this and nobody is talking about it. We've lost 325,000 children. You're working at a government agency that's responsible for vetting these sponsors and you're telling me that the employees that are in charge of vetting the sponsors are not giving proper training? Oh, not at all. When you first got involved in it, what was that like? We pick up the pieces after they've been through human trafficking. One of the directors from Cherokee let me know that if I continued to highlight trafficking that I would probably not be able to stay on site. They call it a vetted sponsor.

1:29:57 Who's going to receive a child that has not been DNA tested? That's the definition of human trafficking. There's a website I can go online and basically buy and get any type of birth certificate I want from any country. And then you guys were knowing that these sites are out there accepting those forms of... Yeah, it said RENAP right at the top. Now we have children that are coming over with fake documents and then you're turning that child into over to an adult with the same type of documents? So you have a ghost child going to a ghost adult? In a lot of cases from how this operation works for proof I don't understand is cartels are dropping children over a four foot or 18 foot border wall. These children are falling They're having a name tag on or a piece of paper with information pinned to their shirt. That's this sponsors information and then that child's gonna get transferred to the HHS intake facility. You had no idea that you were supposed to follow up within the first 30 days? No, I was lied to and told that those follow-up

1:30:54 were being done by another group of case managers. In fiscal year 2022, they identified over 10,000 victims of trafficking. You're talking about the most profitable cottage industry, which is human and child trafficking. And just by those statistics, there's only a 0.2% probability that you're ever going to get caught. The government has proven ineffective and unwilling to do anything. They increased funding for Southwest Key programs by 35%. The biggest child trafficker, in my opinion, in American history received $2.89 billion. They've passed a lot of things that they say are going to help, but nothing has been done to help. And he was tied to a tree. They just beat him with a stick. They ripped off his fingernails. This is all because he refused to be trafficked.

1:31:39 all of this of rescuing victims, until you get those traffickers, you're doing more harm than good. humbling, I would say, with the stories that they tell. And I know he's been on the ground in Guatemala with a lot of other breaking stories, I'm well, that are probably going to see the light of day with this documentary. And Ryan joins me now. You know, Ryan, we can talk about the details of this documentary and what you've witnessed.

1:32:23 I also think it's worth mentioning because you now kind of get a compare and contrast when it comes to the southern border where we used to see tens of thousands crossing every day and the human trafficking operation that you've documented, I mean, running rampant. I mean, just billions and billions of dollars with the human trafficking. It's now virtually stopped. The border is essentially stopped with the human trafficking. So, from that standpoint, before we get into some of the details, from that standpoint, what is your response from somebody for four years that covered the open border and the human trafficking and now you see the border is actually closed? What goes through your mind after witnessing what you've witnessed and

1:33:07 the children and the slavery and the human trafficking. What goes through your mind now comparing and contrasting four years of Biden and now just a couple months of Donald Trump's policies at the borders? It's undeniable at this point, Owen. And just thank you for bringing me on your show, man. And thank you for everything that you do and always being just rock solid in your beliefs and your foundations and never being willing to sell out or compromise. Man, you're one of the journalists that I respect the most and I hold that respect for. Out of any journalist in this arena, you've been there from day one and you continue to do it. So I wanna give you a compliment first, man, just say thank you for everything that you're doing out there. As far as Trump, man, it almost brings tears to your eyes just understanding

1:33:45 what that man's done at the border and how many lives he's saved. It's exponential. Just to give your audience an idea, in his first month in office, right? So under the Biden administration, there was 5,000, and just in January alone, 5,151 migrant children delivered into this network of pedophiles going to unvetted undocumented illegal immigrants, most likely most of which will all have fake IDs. 5,151 in January were delivered. Trump's first month in office cut that number down to 1,858. This month, March, it's down right now to 343.

1:34:21 343 from 5,151. That's the amount of migrant children that have arrived at our border that our government has taken physical custody of. And they're quote unquote vetting the sponsors that they're delivering to. And we know that they're definitely not their parents, right? Or vast majority of them are not their parents. And then I wanna give Trump's administration probably the most single most important policy change of this entire administration to this day took place on March 14th of 2025 and nobody even talked about it. And that was when Trump activated again the DNA testing expansion for the migrant children at the border. And that went back into effect. Now I don't know if they're implementing it. I just know that the contracts are active. I can see that on HHS's website on March 14th of 2025, that contract was activated again. So we should be now

1:35:07 Guaranteeing that we are DNA testing every single child that has come across that border before we are releasing them to a sponsor so we can at least have somewhat of a reassurance that these children are actually going to a family member or a relative. It's insane. It's insane that this is was even ever a policy change and You try to break it down, why? Why would the Biden administration wanna cancel the DNA testing? It's just, is it a funding issue? No, it's not a funding issue. So then what is it? Are they intentionally trying to give a pathway for child trafficking and human trafficking? I mean, how do you wrap your head around that from

1:35:46 From the Trump administration with the DNA testing, the Biden administration removing it, and essentially, you know, day one for all intents and purposes, the Trump administration bringing it back. How do you wrap your head around that? How long do we got before the next break, Owen? 16 minutes. Okay, cool. So check, let me throw some numbers at you and really break this down so your audience has a full understanding of this operation, right? So over the last four years under the Biden administration, The United States government has facilitated or created an environment that led to the trafficking of 452,121 migrant children. These are children ages 0 to 17 that have arrived at the southern border without a parent. Out of that number, our government took possession of 350,000 of them, vetted the so-called adult sponsor, and then authorized the delivery of this child to that said sponsor. Now we know that I was going down to New York, we broke that story on InfoWars actually,

1:36:36 Where I have this fake ID right here that I bought off a Venezuelan gangbanger in New York City with Carlos Arleano. Took us 15 minutes to find somebody that would give me a complete new ID. What that means is that I can take this ID and I can go on to HHS's website and I can contact HHS and I can apply to get a child, right? So what you're showing here on the screen is our government delivered 350,000 children to this network of pedophiles, guys with fake IDs, guys that just arrived at our border and they cannot locate or find all 350,000. And that number came officially from Tom Holman on December 14th of 2024. So these numbers and these statistics I'm giving you are their numbers.

1:37:12 So what does that mean? If you want to put that sheet back up there for one second, if we take 350,000 and we divide that by four years, there's 1,460 days in four years, right? That means on average, our government was delivering 239.7. So we'll just round up and say 240 Children, every day we're getting delivered to this random network of pedophiles. So now if you take a look to the right where you see that number that says, I don't know if you can scroll over a little bit more to the right, but there's some numbers up there in red and it says 2,157. So that means, so now you can put me back on screen. Let me tell you this, right? So when we talk about child trafficking and human trafficking, there's two really dangerous parts of the journey for the child trafficker. Bringing the merchandise across the border is the second most dangerous. And then delivering that merchandise to a buyer in America is the absolute most dangerous. And our government, HHS and DHS, took over the most two dangerous legs of the cartel for the cartel. And they were delivering the children to that buyer in America. So when we talk about normal child trafficking,

1:38:11 When that child is delivered to the buyer, he officially hits the pipeline as they call it, the child trafficking pipeline. Now once a child hits that pipeline, and is actually delivered to the buyer in a normal trafficking environment. There's a less than a 1% chance that you're ever gonna see that child alive again. And his life expectancy goes from 72 years, Owen, to 24 to 36 months because the poor fragile little bodies like the five-year-old girl who was rescued, or she was seven when she was rescued. She was chained in a dude's basement for two years where he let five to ten dudes at night come in and brutally gang rape her. And then at the end of the night, He would throw her plate of food on the floor as he raped her. And after he was done raping her, he put a cigarette butt out in her arm. So her arm, when they rescued her, was full of scars. And he said that

1:38:54 Why did he do that? Just in case she ever got away or he ever got caught. He wanted her to be reminded of how he brutally, savagely raped this girl every time she looked down in her arms. So these are the environments that our government has been delivering these children into. So what does that mean? That means that on the Joe Biden's administration, January 1st, 2021, by March 31st, our government had openly admitted delivering 20,000 children into this network of pedophiles that they couldn't find. By 2023, it was 85,000. By 2024, it was 325,000. By the end of 2024, it was 350,000. So that's averaging 240 children per day. So we can assume that if we go back to the beginning of the Biden administration, all of the children that were delivered before April 20th of 2022 have hit their expiration date. And what does that mean, Owen? That means that 109,075 children have been raped to death by

1:39:51 because our government delivered them into a network of pedophiles. And because of PAMBODY, and I'm not giving them a hard time, I'm just telling you guys these are the absolute facts and how statistics work. We are 90 days into this administration on April 20th of 2025. And because they did not take action and kick doors down and go rescue these children on day one, 21,575 additional migrant children Based on statistics, have been raped to death just since the Trump administration took office. Because PAM Bondi, RFK and Kash Patel have not kicked the door in and chased these children down. We have the geolocation, we have the data, we have the last known address, we have the facilities, we know who delivered them. We have all the information to go get these children right now, Owen. And there's kids gonna get raped to death tomorrow. Every day this administration fails to take action. 240 children are getting raped to death.

1:40:44 That's a breath, sorry, I'll end it there. Man, it just gets me so irritated, Owen. Well, you've had to deal with this firsthand and so- I'm like shaking, I'm so irritated about it. It's just, why are we not rescuing these kids, man? It breaks my freaking heart. Well, by the way, the statistics that you're going off of are just basic FBI crime statistics. It's well known. You're not making these numbers up or trying to put them together off of just border data. These are well known statistics. If you go probably the most famous kidnapping, child trafficking movie of all time is that movie Taken. And they base a lot of that plot based off of FBI statistics. And that's why once his daughter gets taken, he starts his watch and he's like, okay, I know I've got 36 hours or whatever it is. He's like, I know I have 36 hours before she's gone and that's it, I never see her again. And so that's the plot, he has to find her within that period of time.

1:41:34 But it's like these are just basic statistics. Trump administration, Pambandi or Patel, is it that they're not focusing on the aspect of the missing children and they're focusing on the gang members or the people they have on record with criminal records? Is the issue that they're trying to find the clues they need or whatever to track and trace these people. The tracks have all been dusted over and it's just they can't find them. What do you think the problem is?

1:42:20 Well, we had some whistleblowers a while ago come forward with about 8,000 addresses. I mean, they came forward with about two years ago. And I believe it was Carlos and Anthony Rubin from Muckraker, who actually went and started going door to door and seeing if they could find. They were going to the quote unquote addresses that these kids were supposed to be delivered to. And they were going door to door to door, and they actually found quite a few of them. So if we just started going door to door to the last known addresses, I would say that we'll probably find about 50%. So if you just take a look at the child trafficking statistics, from when Trump first implemented DNA testing policy at the border. I believe it was about 41 or 47% of the original first case of tests that he did when he ordered every child that was being brought across the border to be a DNA tested. Like 47% were not with their parent. That means that 47% of them were being trafficked under the Trump administration. And then he implemented DNA testing and it almost completely eliminated child trafficking coming across our border. Because the only way that you could bring a child across

1:43:19 was if they were actually a relative. You're a brother, a sister, a father, a mother. That doesn't mean that the mother wasn't gonna traffic the child. And it doesn't mean that the mother didn't bring the child into America and then sell it into the network. I'm not saying that. I'm saying that at the very least we weren't giving them to strangers. So even if we take our number and say like it was 350, we can't, thousand we can't find, we can safely assume, Owen, that about 50, 40%, 40 to 50% were delivered into a trafficking network. So even if I'm like, think about this, Owen, I'm telling you that 21,575 children got raped to death. What if I'm 90% wrong? If I'm 95% wrong, it's still 1,000 children. And then my numbers, I'm telling you, Owen, and people are like, give them more time, right? Give them more time. Okay, I say, okay, tell me how many children you're okay with being raped to death.

1:44:11 And tell me how many it is, because you tell me how many children you're okay with being raped to death. And I will tell you how many are going to be raped to death in whatever allotted amount of time that you're gonna tell me. Should we give them another week? Because in another week, you're looking at another seven times two, I don't know, 1,400 roughly children will be raped to death based off of just normal statistics. So I get that they have to take time. I think that it's important, number one, I think it's just a massive stain on our nation's history, right? When this starts to go viral and this starts to go international, and we start talking about, shoot, I've messed up my camera. Now that's all right. It's this weird, stupid thing that the app does whenever you do a thumbs up. I don't know why. It's the most obnoxious thing. Go ahead. Yeah, so I think part of it is a big stain on our nation's soul, right? So when this actually goes international and our government has to actually admit that they were involved in this type of operation and the entire world kind of steps back and goes, wait, wait, wait.

1:45:04 We have children from 180 nations that were trafficked into America. The United States government took physical custody of these children from these other nations. And then we vetted the adult and delivered them into this network of pedophiles. So think about that on a world stage, what that looks like as far as America is supposed to be the leader of freedom and a bastion of democracy showing the world what it's what you know. Let me quantify this for people too and then let's get back to that with the one name that I think needs to be highlighted here more than any other name and that's Alejandro Mayorkas. Bingo. The things that you're talking about because

1:45:41 I follow your work obviously and I follow Anthony Rubin's work and Carlos's work who you mentioned as well. And I mean when you kind of look at the body of work all three of you have put together, I mean it basically paints the entire operations picture. I mean you're on the, you're kind of on the other side of the border with some other people breaking that down and then when they get to the border breaking that down. and then anthony is kind of along with that ride putting all the pieces together and carlos is able to get inside the systems here domestically to show what happens so people need to understand i mean between the three of them i mean really you guys should have a closet full of police surprises everything else i know that's not why you do what you do uh... but the point is that's the that's the level of work that you've been you've been doing

1:46:21 And so, they've gone to, as you said, they've gone to these locations with the data. Sometimes they find the kids, sometimes they don't. And so it's not like it's an impossible thing. But what's crazy is that it's like there is proof, there is evidence that this is exactly what's going on. Everything you've talked about, it's even worse when they don't even vet the quote unquote sponsors. Anybody can get this sponsorship. You can get a fake ID and get confirmed with a sponsorship and that's all it takes. And then once the kid is handed over, they're gone, folks. They're gone and you're lucky if you can end up finding them off of the government data. So this brings us to the name Alejandro Mayorkas.

1:47:02 To me, I look at Alejandro Mayorkas as maybe the biggest traitor in the history of this country. Maybe the biggest human trafficker. Now he's not the one down there with his fingerprints on it, obviously. He's at the top opening up the doors and switching all the levers and knobs to making sure that the thing can run. But I mean, to me, What are the odds Mayorkas wasn't aware that any of this was going on? 0%? 1%? I mean, he claims ignorance when he's up for these congressional testimonies. But I mean, these numbers were so obvious. I mean, just a journalist like you can go prove it.

1:47:40 It is 100% fact, undeniable, undisputed that Alejandro Mayorkas was well, not just involved, he created the policies that led to this crisis. Every single immigration policy that led to the 30 million illegal immigrants flooding across our border over a four year period, Mayorkas had a play and played a role in that. Remember when you had, I believe it was Aaron Stevenson and Tara wrote us on and we had to fight for that policy change. I think Alex Jones did a four hour live stream on it. Because inside DHS, they have policies. And I'm not super familiar with it. There's a lot of people that are way better experts. So I'm just going to give you the general idea that I understand. But their policies inside DHS are basically laws, right? So what they were doing was they were trying to change policy inside DHS

1:48:25 So that even when the Trump administration took back over, people that were working inside HHS would have to follow those policies because that's their rules. So when you take a look at those policies, for example, they had digging deeper questions. And this was one of the things that Deborah White, the whistleblower created. The idea was when these children are sat down with a case coordinator at HHS, it's HHS's job to determine if that child is being trafficked, right? So when you're figuring out if a child's being trafficked, you're asking them questions like, do you owe money to a cartel member? Did you pay somebody to get over here? Are you supposed to make payments to anybody after you leave here? And you kind of ask the same questions over and over again to see if they're going to kind of slip up. Well, what Mayorkas was doing with his policy changes was going through those questions. One of his policy changes was to strip out all of the questions

1:49:09 That we're asking if the child was being or we're gonna give you an answer if the child's being trafficked. So the theory there was if you're not asking is the child being trafficked, you're never gonna figure out if the child's being trafficked. So then they would have plausible deniability. We didn't know the child was being trafficked. How would we know? We didn't ask that question. You see what I'm saying? So he was going through and making policy changes. that we're gonna make it impossible for HHS to actually figure out if a child was being trafficked. And then on the back end of those policy changes, he was making it literally impossible for anybody like us to do research or get access to information inside DHS or HHS. So these are the policy changes that they were changing. And then you go and you strip away DNA testing. And you take a look at all these key pieces that he did in policy changes and decisions that he made, and it paints a perfect picture. He was well aware. He designed the system.

1:50:00 And if there's anybody and not just Mayorkas, let's talk about Xavier Basara. Let's talk about Robin Marcos. If there's three people and I named it in my first documentary that I could guarantee that should be tried with treason. It is Alejandro Mayorkas, Xavier Basara, and Robin Marcos. And the fact that we don't have those people inside right now, and they're not in cuffs or at the very least being investigated, makes you really question Who's running this show and what are we trying to accomplish with his administration? These people, there are so many crimes that I could put Mayorkas in prison for life with just the information of my first documentary. I now have three full documentaries, Owen, just on this child trafficking operation.

1:50:42 And of course, it's unfortunate, but it's true. This is a billion dollar industry. It's well covered. It's well known. Mainstream news even admits that. And they just opened it up. The Biden administration just opened it up. Mayorkas opened it up. And it's like, you know, there could be two theories of thought. It's like, okay, well, Joe Biden was You know, he was gone. He was gone the day he entered office. He didn't know what the hell was going on. So you have all these criminals inside the administration like, hey, you know, the boss, he doesn't know anything. So we can do whatever the hell we want. You know, he's not gonna know a damn thing. Or you could say, you know, Biden greenlit it for whatever reasons. Either one is plausible to me, but the result is the same. Trump has said treason. He has said they committed treason at the border. He's never said them by name, but he said multiple times it was treason at the border.

1:51:31 So, he's 100% right and I'd like Anthony Mayorkas to be brought back in in front of Congress for a testimony and really we need to see criminal referrals. And if Trump is serious about treason at the border, then Mayorkas is where you start that investigation. But he needs to be at least called for another congressional testimony and grilled about it, and then probably face criminal referrals, definitely in the border states, but every state was a border state under the Biden administration. So Ryan, appreciate your time. We're out of time for today. Where can people follow your work? Where can they watch the next documentary? at Ryan Metamedia over on X. They're all gonna be free. They're all gonna be pinned to the top of my profile. My most recent one's there and they're all in my highlights. God bless you all and appreciate you, man. Thank you, Ryan. And I'll do another live screening of that as well, like I've done for your last two documentaries as well. And so it's always, I mean, folks, it's powerful work. It's a tough watch, but this is the reality of our situation.

2:01:12 a really bad situation in prison, by the way, because of his speech in and out of court because of his speech as well. And so there's some developments in this case. Preston Bates is a journalist there on the ground covering it. He joins me now. Preston, the saga has been so up and down and just wild, it's hard to even keep track of it. And it's been going on, it's been persisting for so long. Unfortunately for Tommy, he seems to just, it's just never gonna go away. What is the latest situation with Tommy's status and the latest developments in the legal situation?

2:01:51 Owen, it's great to be here with you today. And I'm sure given your own time on the US prison system, this story rings a little close to home. I caught up with Ezra Levant from rebel.news, interviewed him on Friday. As you know, Ezra has been supporting Tommy and helping with his legal bills. Now Tommy having other support. Big big guns so to speak behind him helping him with this ongoing saga. He's been in solitary confinement for 150 days So that's quite a lot of time. A lot of people don't understand, he's actually being held for a civil contempt of court charge, not a criminal charge. The charge stems back to when he showed his video, his documentary last summer at the Unite the Kingdom rally at Trafalgar Square.

2:02:43 I would imagine that's a pretty wild situation. Do we know, are there any other cases where it's a civil issue, where you're in solitary for 150 plus days? I've never heard of that. I haven't either and I think Americans have a very, let's just say, primitive view of how dangerous the free speech situation is over here in the UK. Despite the best reporting from people like Infowars.com, I mean, it's really dire. You don't actually have the right to free speech in public spaces. I can't speak to whether or not there have been other civil contempt of court cases, but I think 150 days in solitary confinement is unprecedented. Now, there has been reporting that according to a couple expert witnesses and their testimonies, which were presented at the hearing on Friday, that it was for Tommy's safety. However, Tommy's attorneys made cases that a previously undiagnosed case of ADHD, which

2:03:43 And his being ostracized, not allowed to interact with people, was having a negative and deleterious impact on his health. and therefore he should be able to socialize more. I'll tell you, when he appeared on video, he was wiry, his beard was bushy, he looked skinny, he was stemming and twitching back and forth constantly. He didn't look to be too well, and I know from your personal experience, even you were in solitary, you know exactly what that can do to your health. So imagine five months of that treatment. Well, I will just say quickly that the weight loss factor is, that's 100%. I mean, it's almost impossible to maintain a healthy weight. I mean, there are certain things, I mean, you have your...

2:04:31 your cell exercises, let's say, as they're called, but you're not eating much and the food that you get is barely even edible. I would imagine it's a similar situation for him. He might have a different personality thing than me dealing with ADHD where he needs the socializing a lot more, but nonetheless, when you're sitting in that cell all day, obviously it wears on you and then plus the factor of the weight loss and everything else, I mean, you become a shell of yourself. There's no doubt you become a shell of yourself. And you know, for Tommy, We're over here across the pond and so maybe you can give us a better idea of what's going on actually maybe in the larger body of Europe or just in Great Britain. Is this a story that maintains its presence in the headlines? Is this a case that continues to get momentum? Because it kind of comes and goes here in America, but is this staying at the forefront in Europe or in England? Do they know this massive free speech story with Tommy Robinson?

2:05:31 It's weird, I gotta be honest. I grew up in America in the Midwest and the South, much like yourself. And you would think as an American free speech is kind of sacrosanct, maybe the most important. The First Amendment may be the most important protected with the teeth of the second. But over here, it's weird. There's this weird classism, there's racism, there's the divide and conquer mentality. Tommy being born and raised in Luton, which is frankly just barely north of London. But he has a different accent and so the posh people in Chelsea like to look down on him while complaining about Islamization out of the same corner or the other corner of their mouth.

2:06:11 It's really strange that the Tommy situation doesn't appear as regularly in the news over here. There can't even be really seemingly a right wing party that's getting off the ground. I mean, reform is only now starting to take off as it's going left and left and left and getting softer and softer on immigration. Ben Habib, Rupert Lowe. So there's a lot of, I would say, divide and conquer over here. I would say older British people view Tommy as a cultural icon, as a crusader, as someone who's standing up for British values, exposing the rape gang inquiries. Kirstarmer still refusing to really be accountable for that situation last summer that exploded

2:06:53 So it's quite strange as an American who values free speech to be covering a story which is so fundamentally about free speech and it to fall on deaf ears, including with allies. Here's what's so crazy about this for me, and we see how a lot of the policies that start in Europe find their way to the United States of America. A lot of the policies that have hurt Europe, quite frankly, hurt their culture, hurt their people, a lot of that ends up finding its way here maybe five, ten years later. The one contrast that's strange to me

2:07:28 if we can compare and contrast. What we're seeing in America, and I don't know if it's, well I guess you could say it's hit American citizens to a certain degree. It's not as bad as Europe yet, but here it's like if you criticize Israel or you say something they view as anti-Semitic, you could get rounded up, you could get deported. There's been some issues with that. It's not right now really hitting the press like a free speech case like it should. But it seems like in Europe, specifically in Tommy Robinson's case, it's like the opposite. It's like if you say anything bad about Islam or Muslims, they come after you. That's the great speech crime. What is the deal with that? Is it really just you can't say anything bad about Islam or Muslims? I mean, is that really the color of law that they're trying to have in place here?

2:08:15 I think so, and I just recently reported on the Marine Le Pen rally after her conviction interviewing seven members of the National Assembly in Paris. I'm going to be covering the Polish election coming up soon. There really is a, I think Harrison earlier covered the Palantir CEO and his ties with selling technology to NATO and him being proud to be part of the Frankfurt School. and suppress right wing movement. So there's a concerted effort over here, globalism. A lot of people have moved over here after the Trump election. The globalists that I'm reporting on watching and following feel very cozy, very comfortable in London and in Eastern Europe, in Romania specifically with that large NATO base. Yeah, Islam and then London is kind of a third rail. Here's Starmer famously not celebrating Palm Sunday but just celebrated all the other holidays.

2:09:05 So there is a third rail, whether you want to call it replacement migration, however you want to look at it, the demographics in London and in England are changing substantially. And Tommy Robinson is an iconic hero in this struggle to preserve the West. Do people following this case, specifically people that live in England, Do they look at this as a precedent setting case? Do the courts look at this as a precedent setting case? Is that why they're going after Tommy so aggressively? Do they want to see Tommy basically get the fullest extent of punishment, the fullest extent of the law here, so that they can have this precedent, this mandate that says, okay, this is the line. If you say anything negative about Islam or you say they're grooming gangs or whatever the specific details are, that you're going to have the same fate as Tommy Robinson and that's going to have that chilling effect. Is that the purpose? Is that what they're using Tommy Robinson for?

2:10:02 I think he has become, much like Alex has had his identity stolen from him and robbed and he's become, his identity is now separated and used as a weapon against himself. I think that's happening to Tommy too. Tomorrow I get my source at the inside the court suggests that tomorrow morning between 10 and 10.30 AM London time, we should find out the status of what happened at this 75 minute hearing that occurred on Friday. No doubt there's an intent to stamp down any sort of resistance, any sort of liberty figure. And I think by doing so, they're playing into this problem reaction solution of creating ethnic and racial and civilizational conflict.

2:10:47 to create an angrier world as Klaus Schwab talked about. I'm very concerned about the report that Alex aired for two hours on Sunday, covering Governor Shapiro's house and the torching of it, the vandalism, the Molotov cocktail. I've really been thinking a lot about this topic and the angry summer that we could see here. I mean, the Brits are polite and they invite people in and they're very space aware. If you walk on the sidewalk, they'll never bump you even in a busy crowded time. But there's a lot of tamped down resentment and anger. And for hundreds of years, the very best in Europe went to the United States. And so for hundreds of years, whoever was left behind is still here. And there's been invasion after invasion. So there's resentment towards America. There's politeness. There's resentment towards all these new people coming here.

2:11:36 But they're too polite and maybe look down upon commenting upon that. It's just this weird dystopian environment where you're supposed to be polite, but you're supposed to love all these new people. But you can't say anything bad, but they come here and they do things. And some of them are bad for you. And if you say anything, well, then you're a racist or you're a bigot or you're lower class. It's strange, Owen. Well, and I kind of again, I'm just to compare and contrast. And we'll get back to the Tommy situation. But I mean, it's a totally different deal because the speech and I view them as speech violations. I think it's a serious First Amendment issue we have here with the anti-Semitism laws. But that's more directed towards foreign policy and foreign entanglements. I mean, nobody, I don't really see people that have a problem with Jews coming to America. American Jews have assimilated into American culture pretty much

2:12:27 I mean, there's no real issues there. But with Islam and with Muslims, it's a different story. There's a little more friction, whether it's in Europe or even here in the United States with people complaining about these giant Islamic centers going up, a big one here in Texas. So, you know, the issues that we're having right now with free speech, with criticism of Israel or foreign policy, that's not necessarily an issue of, hey, we have people on the ground that aren't assimilating and they're hurting our culture. It's a foreign policy thing, but in Europe, in England specifically, that is the problem. And so they're saying, hey look, these people aren't assimilating to our culture, we're losing our culture. Now they're saying they want to destroy our culture. Tommy Robinson speaks out about it, ends up in jail, and I guess we're...

2:13:13 The missing link here for Europeans or for the British is that you don't have political leadership. I mean, is that the problem? Is there anyone in political leadership right now that's trying to change this or put a stop to it? I think you've nailed the point right on the head there. And it's so frustrating to see right populist nationalists sort of pro-Great Britain patriots struggle to coalesce around one leader. For a while we thought it was going to be Nigel Farage, but the more that his background and all of his divisive rhetoric and his

2:13:49 associations come to the light. I mean, you see defection after defection and just running out ally after ally. And it's quite troubling. In fact, in the news recently, one of his former MPs who no longer has been MP anymore, Ben Habib, recently took over the leadership of a party. And I have it on high that it's very hard to form a party here Because the debanking, the assault on anyone who's not part of the blob or the uni party is so intense that it's very difficult to set up a new party apparatus which allows labor and conservative slash Tory parties to stay in power.

2:14:29 So some people thought it was gonna be Nigel, but there's just so much baggage there and he just keeps running out ally after ally. Reform is not a democratic party. I think there will be an alternative very soon, maybe one led by Ben Habib. But we as Americans should pray for Great Britain and France because what's happening here, it's going to affect, it's a testing ground for what will happen back at home. And of course, we saw what happened in France with Marine Le Pen and they're just gonna say, and that again, that's gonna be a European issue. They tried to do the same thing here with Trump, just stop him from even running. Luckily, we were able to get him across the finish line. But we see in Brazil, we see

2:15:12 In France, I mean we see this in Romania as well where it's just like if you have, let's just say generally speaking anti-establishment type of candidate that's getting popularity and looks like they could get elected. the establishment moves in and just says, no, you can't even run. You can't even run or they just cancel an election like we've seen in other countries as well. So I mean, that's a problem I think Europe is gonna be facing really, I mean, they're facing it now in France, but it could be other places. Now getting back to Tommy, Is there a hope that he can get released soon? I mean, what do we, I mean, I know you said they just had that hearing on Friday. We're gonna get more details coming up this week. But what about Tommy's status? Are they trying to get him out? Are we trying to get this case through the works so we can get a conclusion? Where are we at there? I think he's supposed to be released in July. And so he'll be released early. It was a 15 month sentence. I think he'll serve

2:16:10 He'll have credit for time served. I'm not an attorney. I'm not a British citizen. So forgive me for not quoting the fact and the law as it is. I'll be filing report for borderhawk.news tomorrow on the judge's decision. I believe their legal team is cautiously optimistic, though I don't wanna speak for them. I know they're pursuing a multi-pronged strategy to both get him out sooner as well as make his treatment in the facility where he's at, H&P Woodhill, better. So hopefully they're successful along one or both prongs of their attack. Are there areas on the streets where this is intensifying? I look at some of the situations in America where

2:17:00 If you go to one of these college campuses and maybe you've attended an anti-Israel or pro-Palestinian protest or maybe you're even at one, there's a bit of a tension there. And I think there's even probably people that are maybe walking around with a fear that, oh, I attended this or I took place in this, maybe somebody is coming for me. Is there anything like that going on in Europe? Do people that maybe have posted things or said things negative about Islam or the invasion of the European countries. Do they kind of walk around, you know, looking over their shoulder, looking around the corner, wondering if they're next?

2:17:40 100%, one of the co contributors to Vox Populi, which I also file reports for, was a college student who posted something critical online and got the police visiting her at her door and she was 20 years old. And she's one of 16,000 people that this happens to regularly. So the British have a very advanced technocratic surveillance system. When you take the train from London to Paris that doesn't stop the Eurostar, they already have what Alex described yesterday, which is no boarding pass, just scan your face and scan your passport. That system already exists. The British Transport Police is infamous for its total surveillance network and the tube system. So that whole identifying people and then associating them with their political speech

2:18:26 It is already here, it already exists. The question is how fast does it spread? Where else does it go? How do we stop it in the US with Trump talking about real ID? How do we get him to back away from that? How do we not have another Patriot Act 2.0? How do we not have other movements that are affiliated with the Liberty Movement not being fighting for racial animus and ethnic hatred and playing into this angrier world. How do we just reclaim our government and make it constitutional based upon all rights being equal treatment under the law? That's what I'm focused on. That's the message I wanna bring to the Infowars.com audience.

2:19:05 is there are people here who are trying to fight for equal treatment under the law. Tommy's an icon because he's bringing a spotlight to the treatment of the native British and this kind of aggressive invasion. I mean, we're talking about grooming gangs for the love of God here. And he gets treated the way he gets treated. And if we don't stop it here, it will come to the US. I'm curious too, because I see a lot of commentary in response to people that might feel the same way I feel. Or have said similar things like, well, I don't want to go to Europe. Europe is gone. You know, I don't want to go to some of these famous cities in Europe. They're gone. You know, say Paris, London, whatever. It's not it's not Europe. It's not it's not the country it once was. How much of that is accurate? How much of that is exaggerated from your experience?

2:19:58 My experience is limited. I've been here since July, so not even a full year. I will say it's shocking. I would say I agree and disagree. You could be in neighborhoods. London's ground zero for multiculturalism. There are truly enclaves. When you get off the train station and you go from London to Paris, You get off at Gary Du Nord station and you walk down Strasburg Avenue, and it literally does feel like you could be in any African country. I mean, I'm talking about hundreds of single military age black men standing around outside buildings. And that's it, I mean, and that is immediately hits you in the face as soon as you exit the train station. Now that's not everywhere in Paris. I was just there a couple weeks ago. I was there for the Olympics. I live in London now. There's so much charm and magic in Europe. So I don't think it's fair to say they're completely gone. I think that sort of fatalistic thinking gives into inaction. It prevents people from, much like myself, I'm not a trained journalist. I just started making reports

2:20:59 Because I live on planet Earth and I want to experience liberty. And so I want that for my children. So I think we can't say anything's gone. I don't think any human being is beyond grace or forgiveness or change. I think it's up to us to really fight to keep the West the West. How much of this, well you mentioned keep the West the West. And I mean if you want to just lay it out, the fact of the matter is that If this trend continues, there won't be any white majority, Christian majority countries left on Earth. That is just a fact. And I don't want to come into this racial debate right now about it, but that is a fact. So is that by design? And then why would that be the case? But I guess I would close the interview with this in the last 90 seconds here.

2:21:46 What we saw here was in America, people were coming here taking advantage of the open borders but mostly motivated by the welfare. They knew they could come here and get free stuff and get free health care, a roof over their heads, three hot meals a day, everything else. And so there was a motivation factor there. Is it similar in Europe? Do they get the similar benefits or do they just come because they want to get out of the countries they were in? I think it's two factors and that yeah, the racial ethnic thing for another time. But I think it's two things. I mean, London's a cold place and it rains a lot and it's not the Middle East. So why then suddenly is it ground zero? Why is it a target? Well, I think it represents a cultural hegemony of claiming a cultural icon, a cultural territory

2:22:29 if you're into the conquering and you know which political ideology slash religion I'm talking about. And then yes, there's a very large welfare state here. It's tough to find a right wing person running for office over here that would even say, cut Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, the equivalent over here being the welfare state. They're talking about making it better, increasing it, improving it. Britain and London and England have suffered from decades of of socialism and they still haven't really ironed out all of that massive state type thinking. And so yeah, I mean Bradford, England, you go up there, it's majority Pakistani, a lot of these people don't work. Sometimes the imams even fill out the ballots for people. So it's like, do they even vote? Is anyone even checking that? So I think absolutely the welfare capture, coming to capture London, sit at home, get paid to do nothing, have someone else

2:23:20 vote for you and live in what was a once great city as some sort of emblematic capture. But we gotta be very careful, we need to pay attention, we need to learn from what's happening over here and take the lessons back to the United States to prevent this globalism and this immigration as a weapon from becoming- Preston Bates, thank you for your time. Every product we sell at Infowarsstore.com. when we're talking about the supplements is the highest grade, highest quality and extremely affordable price. And when we say that our formula is ultimate fish oil, it is the three best known forms of the best essential fatty acids that are known to come from fish and krill. So listen to what is in this formula. Wild anchovy purified concentrated fish oil,

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2:27:57 And that's when our nation was relatively the richest. We were the richest. Well, two things can't exist in this bubble. If the goal is to get to free trade, then you can't replace the income tax with tariffs. But if the goal is to get reciprocal trade, and have tariffs, then yes, you can absolutely do that. And so maybe that's the first plan or Trump will see how things go. But at the end of the day, the goal here remains the same, and that's to bring American manufacturing back. That's the ultimate goal. And that will also make us rich. So whether you do it via tariffs or whether you do it bringing American manufacturing back,

2:28:49 the result is the same. Americans will once again be rich. Now you got all kinds of economic issues that you got to deal with. Mortgage rates, the cost of living, the cost of a house, so there's all kinds of things. But the policies coming out of DC have harmed the US economy and harmed the US taxpayer more than they've helped them for decades. And so Trump is trying to turn that around. But really, this is tax day. We were all kind of hoping, I think, The IRS would be abolished by today so that we wouldn't have to deal with them, but it is tax day. Let's hope this is the last time the IRS exists on tax day. Wouldn't that be nice? Let's hope this is the last tax day where the IRS is in operation. That would be wonderful. That would be absolutely glorious. But the truth of the matter is, income tax is slavery and property tax is theft. So your government enslaves you and steals from you.

2:29:51 And we're just kind of sick of it. We would just like to see that come to an end. I would like to see that come to an end. Wouldn't you like to not have to work and then have your wages taken from you for your work? Wouldn't you like to own something and not have to pay to own something? That'd be nice. Seems like that should be the case already. So all of this is where Trump's economic policies need to end up. How we end up getting there is gonna be the journey, that's gonna be the ride. But ultimately, that's where these things need to go. Now, there's some other news here. Trump threatens to strip defiant Harvard of tax-exempt status. How is it these Ivy League institutions, or any college of that matter, is tax-exempt but you, the American citizen, aren't?

2:30:50 schools, Harvard specifically, has billions of dollars in endowments. And then they get subsidized by the government and then they raise their tuition prices. And they're not even giving you the higher education you once received. Or at least the respect that a Harvard degree might once have demanded is not still the case as they're producing woke leftists out the door. Trump administration freezes 2.3 billion in Harvard funding amid DEI and anti-Semitism dispute. Just cut it all. Let's just stop it with all this government subsidizing of these universities. And they can go into their own endowments and figure stuff out. The little known bureaucrats tearing through American universities. Well, they're going to find you now. Here's the

2:31:57 Statement from Trump earlier perhaps Harvard should lose its tax-exempt status and be taxed as a political entity If it keeps pushing political ideological and terrorist inspired Supporting sickness remember tax-exempt status is totally contingent on acting in the public interest. Oh boy You know why they're combing through these universities A new task force formed to combat anti-Semitism is using funding threats to force broader changes on campus. So there you go. Well, it's nice. It's nice that we're stopping this. We're stopping this anti-Jewish bigotry and we're stopping this anti-Israel commentary on college campuses. So glad that this is happening.

2:32:56 But you know for years while they were discriminating against white people or Asian people systemically You know with DEI Well, you just don't talk about that. You don't talk about that. The truth is the left has been a virus at institutions of higher education for decades for decades They've been churning out and propagandizing radical leftists at these universities like that was their job. Not to inform or educate, no, no, but to indoctrinate. That's what it's been about.

2:33:41 Trump administration sued after taking down public spending tracker. What could be behind this? Despite Elon Musk's claims, Trump administration spending on pace to surpass Biden's. Now I'm curious if this is part of the reason why and there were conflicting reports. I tend to just go to what Trump or Musk were saying and the number that they were landing on was usually 1 trillion that they were going to get. As far as the waste, fraud and abuse. Now they're saying it's going to be 10% of that. It's going to be about 100 billion or 150 billion. That's horrible news. And then is anybody going to be arrested for all the fraud? Yikes. This is going the wrong direction. Now, did they take it down because it was part of Doge cuts or did they take it down because they didn't want you to see that their spending rate was on the same pace as the Biden spending rate? And so they didn't want you to see that hypocrisy. Well,

2:34:39 This is going to be addressed and I know, I think from my view, and I'm gonna have more on this coming up on the war room. From my view, I see Elon Musk and the Doge team getting frustrated, actually. And there's plenty of signs that that's the case. Whether it's directly from Elon Musk or some of the other things that the Doge team is saying or doing and then just not getting results. But how can you find hundreds of billions in fraud and nobody get arrested? How can you put in the work with the Doge team to find a trillion in waste, fraud and abuse only to be told, well, we're gonna actually, we're gonna cap that at 150 billion and we're gonna continue the spending. That's not good. And so I could easily see the Doge team getting a little louder about this. And I think Elon Musk was serious from the get go. And what the Doge team is finding is that, you know what? Maybe not everybody in this administration is serious.

2:35:47 Maybe not everybody else that we're working with in this administration is as serious as we are. So it's a tough realization to come to, but I think that that's where they're starting to lean. And there's a lot of people that support Trump and MAGA that are starting to feel the same way. And so you can kind of see this trend happening on social media, but it is definitely going on. Now, there have been some updates lately out of the FBI. And I'll have more on that coming up on the war room too. A slap in the face, Dan Bongino called out after retweeting video of FBI official Stanley Medor, who remains employed despite targeting Catholics as radical traditionalists linked to white supremacy. So we're talking about some of the swamp creatures at the FBI getting promoted now. Let me just say something here that I know is going on, but there's a lot of back and forth.

2:36:52 I speak to FBI whistleblowers, a lot of it happens on the air, some of it happens behind the scenes. And there is aggravation and frustration, and I'll just leave it at that. But I will also tell you that Dan Bongino, the deputy director, is not ignorant of this. He's very well aware of this, and he's doing what he can, at least behind the scenes, to address these concerns as he continues to ask for patience. Now I've said it and I'll say it again, Bongino and Patel, I'm willing to give them patience if they ask for it. I don't think you're going to have a better situation than Patel and Bongino. Time will tell. But these are two guys that are betting everything. They're putting their entire reputation on the line. They're putting their entire future in politics or commentary or writing books, whatever it is. They're putting it all on the line. So when you're playing with your own money,

2:37:54 and you're going all in with your own reputation, your own life if you will, then I say, okay fine. I'm willing to give you a chance. If you're playing with your own money and your own hand, then okay. Not like Pam Bondi who's playing with house money and has already got her next career lined up at Fox News. That I have no patience for and no tolerance for. And then she comes out every day celebrating that she did her job like, hey I arrested somebody. That's your damn job. Did another Fox News interview last night. So she's had more Fox News interviews than she's had arrests. And again, I will tell you, I mean, I don't want to be too hard here, folks, but I'm going to tell you right now, the frustration internally with Pam Bondi is almost at the same levels that's going on externally. All right? And I'm not saying there's not team players, and I'm not saying it's ugly behind the scenes, but I'm telling you right now, they're hearing it. They know it.

2:38:57 It's impossible for them to avoid at this point at the FBI. And maybe I'm reading too much into it, I don't know. But the other day when they were all at the White House and Trump pointed to Pam Bondi to address a question about deportations. And she basically gave some boilerplate press release like, thank you, President. And then just like read off a press release and you're the best Mr. President, it's all thanks to you. Like not original thought in her head. And then after that, Trump was like, okay, to me it was like Trump was like, okay, you didn't even address the question. So how about Stephen Miller? Would you like to answer the question? Would you like to explain what's going on? Cuz Bonnie just seemed to miss the boat entirely. Maybe I'm reading too much into that. But to me, that's what I saw. And that might just be confirmation bias, but to me, that's what I saw. It was like, Trump was like, all right, Pam, here's your opportunity.

2:39:54 Do you have an original thought? You want to add something to the conversation? And then it was just like, there's like somebody flipped a button and she's like, it's like she turned on. It was like, thank you, President Trump. And then boilerplate response is thank you, President Trump. You're the best. And then just like right back down. And then he was like, okay, Stephen Miller, maybe you can explain what's going on. So I don't know. It could be my confirmation bias, but that's how I saw it. But I'm telling you right now, internally, they're hearing the complaints, folks. They are hearing the complaints. But they're asking for patience and they obviously have a lot of work to do. So I get it, but it's like the same with Trump. Trump's gambling with his life. Trump's gambling with the future of his name, his family, his reputation. So I'm not gonna sit here and go after Trump with complaints all day long. Same thing with Banjina, same thing with Patel. When you're playing with your own money, when you're playing with your own reputation, when you're playing and going all in with your own life, all right.

2:40:51 You deserve the chance to finish the job and get the patients. But that's not so much the case with others involved here. And this thing is not going to go away. But there will be some developments as far as some other issues that FBI whistleblowers have, I'm guessing in the near future. And again, I'm gonna have another update on this coming up on the war room. Actions that aren't immediately visible do not equate to inaction. FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino breaks silence amid mounting conservative scrutiny of bureau leadership. Well, it's up to them, folks. It's up to them. And I know Trump understands the game and he's made his decisions. And he is thinking about the future and he thinks a lot larger than most people understand.

2:41:40 I'm not saying he's perfect or beyond criticism, but the way he looks at things is a lot bigger than most people can even comprehend. But you look at Cash Patel or Dan Bongino and you say, you have the greatest opportunity of all. And you could say the same thing for Bonnie, but she's not built for this. I would encourage Bonnie to just take the Fox News job as soon as possible and let's get somebody in at Attorney General who's really ready to get their hands dirty.

2:42:21 But you have an opportunity if you're Dan Bongino, you have an opportunity if you're Kash Patel to become American legends. American FBI icons by going after the deep state, actually arresting the deep state criminals, the traitors to this country and draining the swamp. You have that chance. So that's however they want to handle that, that's up to them. But they're playing with their own lives, they're playing with their own reputations, they're playing with their own bank accounts. So if they say give me patience, then I'll say okay, and we'll see what happens. But the concerns, the criticisms are obviously growing louder here. Steve Bannon says first Trump administration should have locked up Hillary Clinton and he's right. And we're just saying we don't want to go through this again for four years and have no arrests.

2:43:15 Newly released crossfire hurricane documents prove that the Obama administration Ordered the CIA to fabricate the Russia gate hoax to be used to stage a political coup against Trump as if that's breaking news Everybody knows this Bongino knows it cash Patel knows it Trump knows it everybody knows it. So when do they? Happen to show face in a courtroom When do they have to show face for a congressional testimony to explain why they did it when do they get locked up? Or what about the Biden crime family? Newly unredacted documents show Joe Biden was negotiating oil gas deal to benefit Hunter and Burisma through private email account. The Biden crime family is out of control. Joe Biden's private email scandal is likely much worse than Hillary Clinton's email scandal. And just like Hillary, Biden was never indicted for his use of burner phones and private emails while he was vice president.

2:44:14 Special Counsel Robert Herr ignored Joe Biden's use of private emails. Well, he claimed Joe Biden was too mentally unfit to even stand trial. He doesn't even know where he is. He's lost. The National Archives previously confirmed through a FOIA response that they found 5,138 email messages and 25 electronic files pertaining to the known Joe Biden pseudonym accounts. Robin Ware, JBR Ware, a bunch of weird stuff like that, Robert Peters, According to newly unredacted documents in 2014 while Joe Biden was publicly calling for sanctions against Russia, he was privately negotiating an oil and gas deal to help his son Hunter. And then the buffoon went out in front of the Council on Foreign Relations and said it. Joe Biden was negotiating on behalf of the United States of America to enrich his family. These deep state crooks like Joe Biden put

2:45:20 the safety and security and financial well-being of the United States up for sale to enrich themselves. When do the arrests start? That's right, Pam Bondi is doing a victory lap over a single arrest even though it's her job. She acts like she's just, you know, saved the world with every single arrest that they've made. It's like less than 10.

2:45:56 as if that's somehow going to satiate our desire to see the deep state criminals go to jail. Hey, I'm glad you could find some deranged lunatic that blew up a Tesla. This guy who wears metallic blue lipstick, whatever the hell that's about. Attorney General Pam Bondi will seek 40 years in prison for domestic terrorists who firebombed Tesla dealership and GOP's New Mexico headquarters. Well, who do you think did the legwork on that? So she's claiming the victory here, but do you think she did the legwork? Pam, this is not it. I'm glad you're arresting these domestic terrorists and giving them long sentences. That's good. But you understand that you're throwing us this red meat and it's not quelling our appetite. Do you understand that? And every time, every night you go on Fox News

2:47:02 All dolled up, probably a three hour, four hour process just to do these news hits. You've done more news hits than you have made arrests. People have a problem with that. And for you to go to a victory lap over a single arrest of some lunatic that wears makeup, blue lipstick, not really helping your cause. Arsonists that firebombed Pennsylvania governor's home has been identified as a crazed leftist. Of course, they tried to say he was MAGA supporter, no evidence of that. They tried to claim it was anti-Semitic, maybe, there may be something to that. They haven't produced any evidence, but you know, maybe there would be. But it's likely this guy had a beef with the government, he had some other exchanges with the government's State Department or whatever in his personal life over property and issues, and that's why he decided to go after the governor's mansion.

2:48:05 But they just lied again. Oh, right winger, MAGA attacking Governor Shapiro. Nope, you lied. You lied. You always do. Here's something. How is it that more people aren't asking how he was able to get away with this? And I mean, I know he got arrested, but that's because he turned himself in from injuries sustained. He needed medical care. He could have gotten away with this. Folks, I don't understand. What is going on at the Pennsylvania's governor's mansion or governor's home? He doesn't have security out there? Like really? That's kind of crazy to me. That's pretty wild to me. And the governor's mansion here in Texas, I mean, you walk anywhere near there, you're gonna have 10 state troopers on your ass. So it's strange how much he was able

2:49:06 to get away with. Antifa-linked legal group trains radicals targeting Elon Musk and Tesla. Here's your RICO charge from LifeZette. Pam Bondi, here's your RICO charge right here. We have all the legal groups. We know where all the money comes from. We know the center, the core of it all. The Oregon-based Civil Liberties Defense Center has been active in supporting left-wing demonstrations and legal defenses in Antifa-affiliated individuals. Hello, Pam. Can you hear me? Rico case, domestic terrorism, funding criminal operations and violence in the United States. Paging Pam Bondi.

2:53:46 Ladies and gentlemen, I am Chase Geiser, your fourth hour host for the Alex Jones Show today. Owen Schroer will be back behind the desk in exactly one hour. And I'm told that Alex Jones will likely be back in studio this afternoon for a segment of the War Room, but it's not confirmed yet. Things are absolutely insane and crazy. And now I'm given the task of breaking down the latest as best as I can. Owen Schroer has done an outstanding job as he always does. But it's difficult to pick from these little details, these little headlines as to what's really going on in the world. On the one hand, it's easy, but it's so overwhelming. And on a slow news day, which there is no such thing as a slow news day, you're left with the 30,000 foot perspective, which is absolutely overwhelming. Am I supposed to start with the fact that Katy Perry went to outer space for five minutes? Or maybe she didn't because some of these

2:54:38 Videos are really bizarre about how the hatch opened inward when we know all space hatches are supposed to open outward and then Bezos opens it up and it was the second time that it had really been opened up and how staged it was. My friend Andrew posted a hilarious tweet said, my gosh, somehow Jeff Bezos, billionaire status tech mogul, e-commerce mogul figured out how to get six or seven women to leave on time, which is probably the funniest thing about it. But I think what I'm gonna do is Start with this clip about Gaddafi. This is clip letter B as in boy Let's run this and unpack it on the other side a hand carried the letter back from Gaddafi offering to resign The US didn't want him to resign. They want to kill him

2:55:26 Why? Because Gaddafi, and I met him three times. I took Biden on my second trip to Libya, by the way. He went with me when I spoke to the whole country. At every meeting I had with Gaddafi, he wanted two things. He wanted to unite the African continent into a group of nations economically, like the European economy. He wanted to base it on the gold standard. And the US and Europe didn't want that. And the other thing is they want to control of his oil, and they want to control of his sovereign wealth. So Gaddafi had to go. That's how he just-. It's the first time that two towers have ever been brought down by an airplane strike, two high towers like this. And so much more that we've already known. But what shocked me most about this video is that not only did we take down Gaddafi in Libya, because he was trying to create

2:56:36 like an African Union in the way that there was a European Union with its own currency to centralize and weaponize and leverage his currency against the United States. I understand that the whole reason that we killed him is because of his attack on the dollar as a global reserve currency. I understand that whole concept. This is something I've spoken about. This is something many others who are much more expert at this than I am have spoken about for many, many years. And famously, Hillary Clinton comes out and says, we came, we saw, he died about Gaddafi. But what I didn't know was that he handed a resignation letter to one of our congressmen who tried to share this information. Look, he's willing to step down, he's willing to step down. And they said, nah, better kill him anyway.

2:57:17 And we wonder why the rest of the world hates the United States so much. And we wonder why it's so bad that our fiat currency is backed by nothing but war, because all it does is catalyze said war and then engender such animosity toward the United States from all these regions. And this is all happening as we see this pressure on Tehran from the Trump administration. As we see this pressure on China, which is in sync with Iran on these trade deals. While we know that the intelligence community is trying to frame Iran, not only for attacks on US ships and military forces overseas, but attacks directly on our people and attacks directly on our President of the United States. So that they can then be blamed on Iran to get us into this war with China through the proxy of Iran. We're gonna unpack it all on the other side of this short break. Make sure you stay with us and visit thealexjonestore.com. And so as this populist awakening is taking off,

2:58:19 As we see that people all over the world are awakening to it. I mean, frankly, you can just show B roll letter E as an elephant. We see that there's this massive resurgence of the belief in national sovereignty against the globalist order which has subjugated and conglomerated and tried to take over all people for the last 50 or 60 or 70 years now. Basically since the aftermath of World War II, we've seen this cataclysmic escalation of globalism. And what's really manifesting right before our eyes is we have this population crisis, not just here in the United States, but especially in China or in Japan or in South Korea or in Russia, frankly, throughout all of Europe. And we see all of this scrambling to

2:59:07 manifest some plan as to how we can deal with this inevitable outcome. I mean, I've heard some estimates that the average fertility will be zero among men by the year 2050 if we keep going at the current rates of declining testosterone, declining sperm counts, which means no one's going to have any children except for these test tube babies that they're going to figure out a way to manifest. And so what the left has done as in response to this declining population in the United States of America, is decided that they're just gonna import tens of millions of migrants, whether they're terrorists, whether they're Middle Eastern, whether they're parents or cousins, whether they're from Mexico or South America or Central America, whether they're gangbangers or not. They're just gonna import tens of millions of people into the United States because even if they're criminals, at least they'll have children over here and that will replace the slave class that is the underbelly or the foundation of the political class in the United States of America. Europe has decided to do the same thing by importing all of these Muslims.

3:00:03 Islam, this culture that's totally unwilling to be compatible with their own because they have a population crisis. China has decided against importing anyone that's kind of their own culture because after all, they have a communist ideology, a communist manifesto, a color revolution to abide by. And so they won't import any other worldviews, but what they will do is become more and more aggressive in the pursuit of robotics and artificial intelligence, which is why Taiwan has been a topic of conversation so much recently. Japan's outsourced to robotics and they'll probably be okay. They'll they're dwindling South Korea totally screwed. It's gonna be taken over by North Korea. No doubt in my mind whatsoever. And if China's labor population really falls, China is gonna demand that North Korea send its people over into China to work on the labor force because North Korea leans on China like a drunk brother. It's this weaker,

3:00:53 miniature, grotesque, mini-me of China. It's even more brutal, even more unjust, but they're so brainwashed that they just obey orders that they'll be slaves for China no matter what, as long as the Supreme Leader says so. But I want to show you clip Q, as in QAnon. This is a Chinese man talking about what's really happened in the United States over the years. They rob you blind and you thank them for it. That's a tragedy. That's a scam. That's why I'm saying this right now. Americans, You don't need a tariff. You need a revolution. For decades, your government and oligarchs wanted to ship your job to China. Not for diplomacy, not for peace, but to explore cheap labors. And in the process, they hollowed out your middle class, crashed your working class, and told you to be proud, while they sold your future for profit. And yes, China made money, but we used it to build roads, leave millions out of property,

3:01:59 fund health care, raise living standard, we reinvested in our people. My family also benefited from it. What did your oligarchs do? They bought yachts, private jets, mansions with golf course driveways. They manipulated market, dodged tax, and poured billions into endless wars. And you, you get stagnant wages, crippling health care costs, cheap dopamine, debt. and flagged the way of property made in China, while they picked your pocket. For 40 years, both China and the United States benefited from the trade, the manufacturing, but only one of us used that wealth to build. This isn't China's fault. This is yours. You let this happen. You let the oligarchs feed you lice, while they made you fat, poor, and addicted. Now they blame China for a mess they made.

3:02:58 I don't think so. I don't think you need another tariff. You need to wake up. You need to take a-. Now, obviously, to some extent, this video is a piece of Chinese propaganda, but they're not entirely wrong. He's not entirely wrong here. He says it's our fault for allowing our political class to exploit us. That's true. And he's complaining about the tariffs because that's the angle of the propaganda. That's the angle of the psychological manipulation of the CCP, where they say a bunch of things that are true, and then they draw a conclusion that isn't true. You don't need tariffs, you need a revolution. They want chaos in the United States of America. They want a revolution in the United States of America, not a peaceful or cultural one or a political one. They want a violent, chaotic revolution in the United States of America. And that's part of the reason why they sent 30,000 people over here under the Biden administration.

3:03:43 Why they paid off the Bidens while Joe Biden was the Vice President of the United States to ensure that their national security would be secured in the Indo-Pacific region we've been hearing so much about. But I showed a clip last week and I'm not gonna ask the crew to find the clip or dig it up. But there is a clip of Larry Fink talking about the development of artificial intelligence. And what he says is we don't have to worry about this depopulation crisis because artificial intelligence is gonna come in and replace the jobs that we don't have the people to fill. And this is a very real crisis. I mean, we had 228,000 jobs created last month in March. We're cutting down all illegal migration into the country, which is a good thing. But you have to keep in mind that we had more illegal immigration into the United States than people born in the United States over the course of the last four years than any other year since like 1857. Because that is their mass migration policy, their replacement migration policy.

3:04:39 And they don't care that these people coming in don't have Western values because they understand that under the subjugation of the New World Order, it won't matter what the fiefdom, what the proletariats What the plebeians actually believe or think, they'll have no power economically, militarily speaking, they'll be stripped of their guns. They'll be totally vaccinated by all the food which has been inoculated with this new self replicating mRNA technology. So their health and their money and their weapons will all be totally under control of this cabal. And then you have the Larry Finks and the Nancy Pelosi's and others that are trying to usher in this artificial intelligence dystopia to replace the labor force that's going away. And then that is going to establish this neo serfdom that they have envisioned for themselves. In fact, I'm going to show you clip M as in mother. This is a resurface video of the first time Nancy Pelosi was confronted about her insider trading. Let's watch.

3:05:33 I wanted to ask you why you and your husband back in March of 2008 accepted and participated in a very large IPO deal from Visa at a time there was major legislation affecting their credit card companies making its way through the house. Did you consider that to be a conflict of interest? I don't know what your point is of your question. Is there some point that you want to make with that? Well, I guess what I'm asking is do you think it's all right for a speaker? to accept a very preferential and favorable stock deal. Well, we didn't. And you participated in the IPO. Well, I had made investments. And at the time you were Speaker of the House. You don't think it was a conflict of interest or had the appearance of a conflict of interest? No, it was not. It only has appearance if you decide that you're going to have a elaborate on a false premise. But it's not true and that's that. I don't understand what part's not true. Yes, sir. That I would act upon an investment. Yes, sir. So we've got these Larry Finks.

3:06:30 Nancy Pelosi's, Dan Crenshaw's, others. who have constantly been exploiting the nature of our government in order to line their own pockets. And for a long time, there was this common argument between conservatives and Democrats that campaign finance had to be reworked and redone. And you have the Democrats coming out and saying, when you're funded by billionaires and billionaires, despite the fact that Amy Klobuchar and others are funded by 17 billionaires. In fact, Amy herself is funded by more billionaires than any other Democrat other than Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, and Hillary Clinton. And we know Hillary Clinton was part of the billionaire class, if you even wanna use that outdated, antiquated term. But we have this class that does not exploit campaign donations and then sell out to the campaign donations, as so many would believe. What they do is they exploit their positions on these committees to have insider knowledge about what's gonna happen in the market next. They invest accordingly, and then they vote accordingly to ensure that their portfolio explodes.

3:07:31 So that's why we have the Nancy Pelosi's and the Finks and others just pumping money into companies like Nvidia because they're developing these super chips. that allow for the processing of artificial intelligence. We have this entire political, cultural movement just pushing for artificial intelligence, pushing for artificial intelligence. And the thinking behind it is that it will replace humans needing to work at all because the population is shrinking. And so rather than dealing with the shrinking population, they have just decided to create a technocratic dystopian future and China is doing the exact same thing. And now there is an arms race for artificial intelligence and it centers around Iran from a monetary standpoint and Taiwan from a technological standpoint.

3:08:10 China is an incredibly vulnerable place which makes them more dangerous than ever. The United States is an incredibly vulnerable place which makes it more dangerous than ever. And Russia too, in an incredibly vulnerable place which makes it more dangerous than ever. And we see all of this lashing out play out right before our eyes as we try to replace humanity with technology while an entire political class tries to give themselves the status of God, literally saying so. The Kurzweils and others, I don't believe in God yet until I become one. These are the type of things that they say, you've all know Harare's. The human is a hackable thing, a hackable being. While we fund the CIA for these MKUltra operations that still continue on. I mean, when there's no accountability for them being called out for MKUltra in the 70s, then why would they ever stop the operation to begin with, especially if it was bearing such wonderful fruit as basically every mass shooter or killer or bomber in the Latin half of the 20th century into the 21st century?

3:09:09 I mean, you want to get me started on mass shootings, maybe Remington isn't to blame. Maybe it's the pharmaceutical companies in conjunction with the Department of Defense. I mean, you can follow the breadcrumb trail down on the background of Luigi Mangione with his chronic lower back pain. And the psilocybin studies that he was so interested in, that were meant to treat chronic lower back pain. And who was heading up those studies and their history of Department of Defense contracts. And you realize all this psilocybin stuff is part of an extension of an MKUltra operation. And it's producing these psychopaths that for some reason our brainwashed culture celebrates as handsome and morally strong. In the words of Taylor Lorenz.

3:09:56 But there seems to be some waking up happening right before our eyes. In fact, I'll show you this short clip. This is from SNL. This is clip G as in geyser. At this rate, I might watch SNL again. Let's watch this. Oh my gosh, whose baby is that? Excuse me? It's ours. Wait, but how? Okay, I'm sorry, but gay people can't have a baby? Yeah, but like, where did it come from? Excuse me? Excuse me? Wow, you are not allowed to talk like that. That is so invasive. Okay, but like we were with you last night and you did not have a baby.

3:10:35 Yeah, and you guys said that after dinner you were going to go to a rave called bulge dungeon and now today you have a baby What we're asking is how did this happen? Okay, I'm sorry. Why is it when it's us an interrogation? I don't ask you why you're poor $10,000 I I think we're just wondering who the mother is. Oh Hey, well between the two of us, I'm more emotional and I like shopping so me I think? Yeah, but I mean I have long hair and he is an alcoholic so I guess it's like two moms I guess? Guys, how did you get this baby? Okay, we didn't pull it out of your vagina if that's what you're asking. People think they can ask gay people anything. It's not okay. Yeah, we don't ask you guys whose butt you use for anal.

3:11:26 Okay. I mean, I guess what's confusing us is you've never mentioned that you were having a baby, so this feels pretty sudden. Uh, yeah, because it wasn't planned. Sometimes it's an accident. How does a gay couple have a baby by accident? What do you want us to say, that we stole her? Did you? Well, we like to think of it as she stole us. So does that mean yes? Why are you confused? English is my eighth language and even I know what that expression means. What other languages do you speak? You can't ask me that! Wow, the transphobia is real. What?

3:12:12 I'm so sorry is one of you a trans man? No, no, no, no, no, you cannot just ask that girl But no god, they should come up with a word for when people have a phobia towards homos Do you mean homophobia? Um, I literally speak eight languages and i've never heard that word Okay, you need to tell us which eight. English, French, AP French, Navi, Simlish, Blackish, Grownish, and Singing. Where is your baby from? And look, the exact reason this type of stuff is finally coming out, this type of concept that has a semblance of humor attached to it, is because of the ridiculousness of the brainwashing that we've witnessed. I'm going to show clip K as in Kitchen in a second here. But the fact of the matter is,

3:13:07 We have been brainwashed whether you want to blame it on the CCP, or on Hollywood, or on leftism, or globalism, probably a combination of all of them. We have been brainwashed and conditioned to be psychologically ready And willing to accept massive depopulation. They want you to be okay with the fact that Western civilization is being replaced because it is being replaced. They want you to be okay with the fact that you're probably never gonna have children because you're probably never gonna have children. They want you to be okay with the fact that if you do have children, even if you don't, both parents are gonna have to work. They want you to be okay with the fact that children are being sterilized at a massive scale.

3:13:45 Because children are being sterilized at a massive scale. They want to not only respond to this depopulation, but they want to catalyze this depopulation because they're using it to justify the development of artificial intelligence and robotics to literally replace humanity while the subset that remains of the middle class and the lower class becomes serfs in a neo serfdom so that a technocratic political class can take over. Let's watch letter K. Talk to me. So I know these pads can be removed, but right now it's giving me very drag. Okay. Very, very like, you know, it doesn't feel like me. I look like a man in a dress and that's not what I want. The overskirt idea, I love. I think it's stunning. I want to see if there's any pantsuit that has a high neck that we can just... That we can check out. Yeah. It's very easy to feel discouraged in your first try when you're not finding it, especially when you have

3:14:41 a very specific vision, but it's actually a good sign. It means that you know exactly what you want, and whether I have it or we have to create it together, it's out there. So let me do another scan. Okay? I knew it was going to be hard. I am panicking so bad right now because I want that fairy tale ending, and I'm scared that I'm not going to get it. So what we're going to see between now and 2032 Can be very similar to what you saw in Europe between 1924 and 1932. You're gonna see this economic boom and then orchestrate collapse. And I don't know if the 29 collapse is orchestrated or not. Seems to me it was an accident that everybody drastically responded to. Perhaps there was a cabal at the top that really planned it the whole time. But this next one is planned because they already understand that it's inevitable. It's not their first rodeo.

3:15:33 And what we're gonna see is that when the collapse happens, they're gonna blame it on populism in order to institute globalism, which is the combination of Marxism and fascism. That's what we're seeing. And right now, all of the globalist entities at play are shifting the pieces around the board to be prepared for the post collapse environment, the post collapse world, so they can usher in the new infrastructure before anybody else can. They wanna be the first to market with an alternative infrastructure, so nobody else can establish sovereignty, a populist nation, national sovereignty of any scale, individual sovereignty of any scale. And they're frantically trying

3:16:10 to drug everybody in the United States of America and the rest of the Western world to be accepting of this, to condition everyone to be accepting of the fact that they're not gonna have a family, they're just gonna have the state to ready everyone for gods to be among us in droves. First they did the test case with all the celebrities. Namely the ones that they sent up to space. They want us to worship the Hollywood elites so that when the technocrats literally become godlike in the fact that they never die and they're all knowing and their consciousness is backed up on the cloud, just like something from the television series Altered Carbon. We just accept that because we've already been worshipping false idols and celebrity for the course of the last 50 years. And as this happens, we see this escalation of this trade war with China because we're trying to diversify where we source our goods because their demographic is shrinking. And we're simultaneously trying to plan how we can beat China to artificial intelligence and robotics so they don't replace their labor force before we do. And so we're gonna have massive war in Iran over currency. We're gonna have massive war over Taiwan because of technology. And it's all gonna play out over the next eight years no matter who the president is.

3:17:14 We've got these intelligence communities, this CIA, the FBI and others who are plotting to try to get us into these wars as quickly as possible. They don't care who the president is. They don't care whether or not the president knows what's really going on. And if we don't pay attention, it's gonna be incredibly and unnecessarily violent, vicious, destructive and frankly apocalyptic. And so I'm pleased with the Trump administration for saying things like, we're gonna replace income tax with tariffs. I'd like to see it happen rather than just to see us talk about it. I feel pleased that we have a president who's willing to push back against President Xi, willing to push back against Tehran, pleased about all these things. I actually do trust Donald Trump. I don't necessarily trust the people that he trusts, but I trust him. If he screws up, it's because he made a mistake, not because he's selling me out like so many of these other technocrats.

3:17:59 And frankly, I trust Elon Musk too because I think he is absolutely 100% committed to saving humanity, interplanetary status for our species, all that stuff. And he realizes that if we lean too hard on China, we're never gonna accomplish that goal of transcending our own planet. Which is necessary because we are due for another cataclysmic event like the Younger Dryas or something else. I mean, every year we pass through basically the kill zone of These foreign extraterrestrial objects that are flying at our planet at outrageous speeds, some of them very large. I'm gonna get more into this on the other side of this break, but before we go to break, I do wanna remind everyone to go to thealexjonestore.com. Now, we've been talking a lot about methylene blue. Methylene blue is an incredible product.

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3:22:17 meeting just the randomness of our listeners and viewers because everybody has been so cool. So I look forward to having the next winner in studio if you want. The last three have all wanted to come to the studio. So you will be the next winner as well. And I hope to be talking to you very, very soon. But regardless, thanks for keeping us in the fight against the globalists. You are funding the second American revolution worldwide and winning. I've not been very ignorant in my life. I remember being extremely young and not understanding things. I remember being about four years old, and I really thought the world was black and white previously, and everything I saw that was color was the future. Suddenly the world became color because I didn't understand that television, most of it was fiction, and the rest of it was just snapshots of

3:23:00 limited reality however they want to present it and I just started thinking about it last night that a lot of the public in a trance state you know that believes too many can have a baby and you know things like that a litmus test in the cult that you're under their mind control if you accept that they really see the world in something like a four-year-old would. One of my earliest good memories is arguing with my dad when I was three years old on Christmas Eve. We had a brick fireplace, red brick there in Dallas, and it was white mortar. And he was saying, oh no, Santa Claus comes out of his chimney like this, just like those two red bricks. He just slips down. I go, well, there's a fire in the fireplace. He's going to catch on fire. And he's so fat. It wasn't that big of a fireplace, a small house. He can't fit in there. Dad's like, well, that's how he does it, starts laughing. And I said, Dad, Santa Claus isn't real. So I got that early on.

3:23:47 Nobody told me, but still it was about another year or so, probably about the time I was almost five. I remember like sitting there watching The Wizard of Oz with my parents. It had come back in movie theaters, they took me to it and then like after the movie I said, show, it's black and white at the start but becomes color when she goes to Oz. And my mom's like, no, no, that's just what it is in effect. They shot it on film in black and white and then they shot the rest of the movie in color to have that effect. And I went, oh, so the world has always been in color. He said, yes. I'm like, wow. Wow. I've got one that can see. All right, ladies and gentlemen, I am Chase Geiser, your host for the remaining 25 minutes of the Alex Jones broadcast.

3:24:42 And so I wanna try to sum up everything for you because there's these escalations going on with Russia right now where we're hearing reports that maybe Trump is unhappy with Russia. But on the other hand, we hear reports that things are going very swimmingly. We have the leftist saying that Trump is Putin's buddy, which isn't true. He's just representing the interests of America no matter what. And he's friends with who he needs to be friends with at the time to help America and he's enemies with Whomever he needs to be enemies with to help America at the time But in this overhead cam I want to just kind of try to draw and sum up what's going on here You have this faction called the globalists here. Then you have the CCP here You have Russia and Bricks Here and then you have the United States here United States once

3:25:32 the dollar to be the global reserve currency, the globalists want it to be a central bank digital currency, and these two factions want it to be a neo-central currency. Something yet to be determined, probably a version of the yen. And so this is the three-way battle because these two right here are going to team up. And I know that Russia and China had differences in the past. I know that they're not exactly aligned 100%, but Russia's demographic is shrinking dramatically. It's distracted with these wars in Ukraine. It's not nearly as much of an economic powerhouse as the CCP. The CCP does have the leverage because it makes everything for the world.

3:26:19 To do things like develop the Belt and Road Initiative, to do things like fund Iran and support Iran in a conflict against the United States. While Russia simultaneously fights in Ukraine in a conflict against the United States, they are teamed up. We shouldn't really be thinking about Russia and China as two different things. They're deeply rooted in the same ideology that is communism, though they have kind of different forms of communism. One collapsed, one just kind of transformed into a Marxist capitalist hybrid, where it takes the benefits of capitalism while leveraging the government power and weaponization of communism. And Russia is wanting to support China against the globalists because these two nations believe deeply in national sovereignty.

3:27:04 to replace the dollar as a global reserve currency with this neo central currency. While the globalists are trying to collapse the dollar as well as weaponize the United States against Russia and China to bring in the central bank digital currency. All while the United States basically takes on the entire world to ensure that the dollar remains the central bank digital currency despite the fact that it's backed by nothing. We're gonna get more reports from Alex Jones at the end of this hour. Alex Jones does have a report that he's sending to us now that we're gonna air about some of these escalations, tensions, and the dynamic between the United States and Russia, the United States and Putin. But what we see unfolding right before our eyes actually explains the real reason that we're involved in these conflicts. We hear from our political class, from the CIA, from

3:27:47 other entities within our government that the reason that we're so supportive of Israel is because we believe in supporting the only democracy in the region when we've overthrown democracy after democracy for decade after decade. We see them talk about the reason they support Ukraine, because they wanna support a democracy against an authoritarian bully. When Joe Biden, while he was President of the United States, intentionally interpreted a Supreme Court ruling to say that the President of the United States has unlimited power. I mean, he declared himself dictator while trying to spin it off as accusing Donald Trump of trying to be dictator when Donald Trump wasn't even the President of the United States yet. His speech when he came out, he was a lunatic, he was out for five minutes. He comes out and says, look,

3:28:23 The Supreme Court has just made the President of the United States an authoritarian dictatorship. He doesn't use those exact words, but the exact message is that. And do you really want Donald Trump to be dictator? And I'm thinking to myself, why are you telling me he's gonna be dictator next in the same breath that you've just told me that you're a dictator? And so what we see is the real reason we're fighting Ukraine is because we don't want Ukraine's resources to be diverted away from Europe into China, which would make China independent of the United States. The real reason we're about ready to fight with Iran is because we want to stabilize the region to build an alternative corridor to compete with China.

3:29:04 So right now we're fighting a war on two fronts. The real reason that we support Taiwan is because we don't want China to achieve artificial intelligence and robotics technology that can replace their shrinking demographic before the United States does, because we also have a shrinking demographic. We're actually fighting on three fronts. We're fighting China and Taiwan. We're fighting China in Iran. And we're fighting Russia in Ukraine. And Russia is fighting us in Ukraine. Ukraine has now become just as much a Russian proxy as it is a US proxy. We just formally had control, we still have control I guess of the existing government of Ukraine, but we don't have control of the country at all anymore because it's lost the war. So really now it's a Russian proxy.

3:29:41 And what we're not talking about is the fact that China and Russia have teamed up, they have partnered in this war against the globalists and this war against the United States for economic dominance into the 21st century. While there is a major arms race for artificial intelligence, which is 10,000 times more powerful than any of the implications of nuclear power from the 20th century. I mean, it is the weapon of mass destruction on so many different fronts in terms of political, psychological operations. In terms of cultural implications, brainwashing, total labor shifts, total economic shifts and disruptions. I mean, right now we are in the most dangerous place that we have ever been in since the Younger Dryas 10,000 BC. Since 12,000 years ago, there was a massive cataclysmic event on the planet that basically wiped off the entire species from the planet until the Egyptians stumbled upon the pyramids and tried to figure out what they were and claim that they built them.

3:30:38 And it's happening right before our eyes. And so we have this whole war going on politically in the information war. I mean, it is really a prescient name. In the information war, we have this massive conflict where all the leaders of the world are vying for trust. The Russians are vying for trust among their own people. The Chinese are vying for trust among their own people. Africa, all the surrounding third world nations, even Central America and South America that they infiltrate with their influence. The globalists are vying for power against the populist uprising and the populists are vying for trust and belief. All while there's this major assault on the current economic structure of the planet, the current monetary system itself of the planet. So what we're witnessing right now is massive war right before our eyes.

3:31:22 Taking place through these negotiations, these manipulations, and it's all the shifting of the pieces before the denouement, before the total unraveling of the plot takes place. I don't know if any of you play chess out there, but if you play chess, oftentimes in a game, you have the pieces and the board really develop before there's massive casualties. And then in the end you have this unraveling where the pieces just start flying off the board. Everyone is getting in position for this massive depopulation, this massive conflict where economies are gonna crash, people are gonna starve, and everybody's gonna move in with their infrastructure and their influence to vie for the power that is created in the void, the vacuum. Just like these celebrities were spitting around in space for ten minutes talking about the feminine energy of space that Katy Perry said, I don't know if I have it on the list here.

3:32:15 But just like opening a hatch in space just sucks all the air out of any capsule because it's a vacuum, so we are about ready to witness a major power vacuum take place in every institution and every piece of infrastructure that we see both physical and metaphysical alike collapse right before our eyes. So we have to be enlightened and prepared and aware enough not to buy into whatever system is offered next after there's this major economic collapse. And I hope, I pray that Trump can prevent this from happening by strengthening the dollar, by shifting it being backed by war to backed by something else, whether it's a strategic Bitcoin reserve or whether it's gold or something else.

3:32:54 So that it is defended against the assault that it faces from Russia, from China, from the globalists. And I hope to God that the globalists are not able To subvert our intelligence community and our populace to pit the United States against Russia and China at the same time through proxies in Ukraine and Iran. Because if we go to World War III, that is the final installment of the saga of the trilogy for the globalist takeover. Because after World War I, we had the League of Nations. That's one third of the takeover. After World War II, we had the United Nations. That's two thirds of the takeover. And after World War III, we're gonna have whatever the hell it's going to be called. And that will be the complete

3:33:31 saga of how the Empire took over the galaxy. Problem is you can't trust any of our own institutions because they betrayed us so many times before. I mean, frankly, I'm going to show you clip C as in Chase. Let's just watch a little bit of this former Congressman Kurt Weldon talking about what happened with 9-11. All for the dollar, by the way. Because I knew that we could have prevented it by the information that the able danger team Established by General Hugh Shelton had gathered and tried to transfer three times and were blocked So I said, uh-uh. I got I owe this to Ray Downey. I'm wearing his jacket today I owe this to the firefighters in New York and around the country to get to the truth If it's the last thing I do and I owe it to all those soldiers that we're now sending overseas. That's right So what I did Tucker

3:34:22 I supported George Bush when he said we're going to send our troops over to Afghanistan. He made those heroic comments about we're gonna get them. I took that as a patriotic American, said yes, we're gonna get them. But I was worried about what the Afghans might do as they did the Russian troops when they were in Afghanistan. So Tucker, with Al Santoli, whom you know, and two other members of Congress, I privately, without the knowledge of our government or the CIA, I went to Paris. We met with King Zahir Shah, the king of Afghanistan who was living in exile with his family in Paris. We met with him to convince him to go back to Kabul to convene a Loya Jorga of all the tribes, to convince them to accept the American troops before they went in so it wouldn't be like they did with Russia. King Zahir Shah agreed to that. I'll give you the photographs, Tucker.

3:35:16 And I had two members of Congress and Al Santoli with me, decorated Vietnam veteran. So I hear Shah went back. I did all I could to protect our American troops, not the CIA, our troops. Then I find out my intel team, those 20 people that were feeding me raw data, give me data within months after 9-11, that Bin Laden's been sighted in a town called Ladies. I have no idea where Ladies is. So I grew up Pennsylvania Avenue at a bookstore and buy a map. I just gave you the map here today, Tucker. You can show it. And I found Ladees. It's not in Afghanistan. It's not in Pakistan. It's in Iran, in an area called Balochistan. So I go to the next classified briefing for the full committee. Now I'm the vice chairman of the full committee. There are 60 members. I'm the acting chairman at this time. So I said to the CIA, I have information that Bin Laden's in Ladees. This is their response to me. Mr. Chairman,

3:36:17 We've heard similar reports. We can either confirm or deny them. I was in shock. I was in shock. So we made Afghanistan anyway, despite the fact that we know the target isn't really there because that war in Afghanistan had nothing to do with getting the target who was responsible for 9-11. Hell, we were half responsible for it ourselves. The whole purpose was to bolster the petrodollar. We didn't want the oil. We just wanted to make sure that the oil was traded in dollars. We've seen this over and over again. Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, countless examples of this. And what we see, if you look at the overhead cam here, is that the globalists who are trying to bring down the dollar are trying to just import as many Muslims as possible into the United States. Import as many Muslims as possible into all of Europe. The entire Euro-United States conglomerate. They've even done some of that into Russia. China has fought back against it with the camps that it's set up.

3:37:12 But they understand that if they bring down the United States and they bring down Europeanism, Westernism, that all that is left is a slave class that can easily be controlled, manipulated, destroyed, bullied, and harassed into compliance with a neo-serfdom infrastructure that will be established formally after the collapse of the existing monetary system. I mean, let's just look at clip J as in Jesuit here of Gavin McInnes on Joe Rogan. This episode was deleted because it was too close to the truth of the type of people that they're trying to use, leverage, exploit and weaponize to just eradicate Western civilization. Watch. I think a part of it was inbreeding.

3:37:55 This is your own theory. No, no, no look at someone else reading major Major pro never heard this before especially with immigrants in Britain like the Pakistanis in London They'll have all kinds of serious inbreeding problems because that's an even smaller sample size you're dealing with strap yourself in for this 70% of all Pakistanis are inbred and in Turkey the amount is between 25 to 30 percent of More stillbirths among immigrants a rough estimate reveals that close to half of everybody living in the Arab world is inbred a large percentage of the parents said this is blowing my mind so listen to the BBC investigation in Britain several years ago revealed that at least 55% of the Pakistani community in Britain was married to a first cousin. Holy shit

3:38:43 BBC's research also discovered that while British Pakistanis account for just 3.4% of all births in Britain, they accounted for 30% of all British children with recessive disorders and a higher rate of infant mortality. What in the fuck? So I gotta pull the clip because I forgot to censor it. Sorry guys. But here's what you have. You have an army of people, military age, entering into the United States, entering into the United Kingdom, entering into Ireland, entering into Scotland, entering into Germany, entering into France. This army of people has an abundance of children, which replaces the Western civilization that is declining because inflation is so bad, because the entire currency of the world or economy of the world is based off of a fake currency.

3:39:29 And then inflation causes people to have to work harder and wait longer to get married and have homes and have children. And the longer they wait, the fewer they have, and then you have a depopulation crisis. These Muslims come in, they're having children with their cousins at an alarming rate. You have a lower IQ, you have religious fanaticism as a result of that with mental disorders like hyper aggression, hyper violence, temper problems, learning disabilities. All totally controllable by the psychological operations that have been developed by the United States and MI6 and others through MKUltra and other programs over the course of the last several years. The globalists are trying to rot these countries and these cultures out from the inside so that

3:40:09 The dollar collapses and then there's just a slave base of inbred Muslims like something you would see from Lord of the Rings when Saruman is just using the orcs to build this massive army underground with flame and rot. That they can then use to bolster up this neo-serfdom that they're trying to establish while the West is dead forever. And there's a technocratic godlike class over the minions. And they can kill them whenever they want, they can pit them against each other whenever they want. They can just instill more fanaticism in them whenever they want. This is the strategy of the globalists. And that's why Russia's saying, hell no, get the hell out of here. CCP's saying, hell no, get the hell out of here.

3:40:47 And so what do they do? They say, well, the United States is still pretty strong. So since Russia and the CCP aren't complying, let's get the United States to go to war with Russia or Ukraine. Let's get the United States to go to war with China through Iran, and then we'll weaken Russia, we'll weaken the CCP, and we'll weaken the United States at the same time. So we don't have to worry about a BRICS currency, we don't have to worry about the dollar currency. And it'll just be Mark Carney and Klaus Schwab left at the end to establish this neo-serfdom. That's what's happening right before our eyes. So we have to secure our borders, even though our population is going down. We have to beat China and the artificial intelligence and robotics race so they don't replace their economy with this artificial intelligence.

3:41:27 Before we're able to diversify and we have to find a way to back the dollar up in a new way. Otherwise, it's going to be the collapse of humanity itself all before Elon Musk reaches his precious goal of getting us on another planet. And he knows this and he figured it out and that's why he's talking about the depopulation crisis. That's why he's investing in robotics. That's why he's investing in artificial intelligence. It's not because he wants to be a god himself or a technocrat. It's because he realizes that the same industries that he's in are being weaponized by the most evil supervillains in the history of mankind. The globalists, the Chinese, the Russians, all of them are in a race to have this technology because whoever gets the Golden Cup first wins the competition, the tournament for the future of humanity.

3:42:10 So this is really the war on for the West. It's not about Israel and Massad and backing up democracies in the region. It's about saving Western values altogether so the technocrats and the political elite and the globalists cannot establish a neo serfdom using a bunch of inbred Muslims as the economic support base where artificial intelligence and robotics cannot replace humanity. All in the context of a massive depopulation they hope to catalyze through World War III because a smaller group of retards is a lot easier to control than a giant group of diverse and intelligent people with different cultures and sovereignty all over the world.

3:42:46 This is what's playing out right before our eyes, folks. And I have a report from Alex Jones to show you right now in 25 seconds. But before I do, I want to remind you, go to the Alex Jones store.com and get the shillajit gummies. They will light you up like a Christmas tree. Get the ultra methylene blue, which is the most impressive product that I've ever consumed. Get the ultimate turmeric gummies, if any are still in stock. Get the Ultimate sea moss gummies that help your body clean itself out from the toxins We're being exposed to from left and right air food and water all the time if you take all of our supplements together They will converge and make you more powerful than you could ever have imagined plus you're fighting for humanity at the same time Let's watch this report from Alex Jones right now

3:43:26 Trump's anti-war envoy, Steve Whitkoff, has been meeting for four to five hours a day with Vladimir Putin and having incredible success. We're very close to a deal to end the war. Zelensky has pledged to not stop the war. You don't want to see cities like that and others vaporize a nuclear war. All the experts agree we're the closest to it we've ever been. Now is the time to back President Trump and to get this peace deal done. Pray for peace. Trump's Russia-Ukraine war

3:44:02 Envoy Steve Whitkoff from my high-level White House sources is working 20 hours a day trying to stop the potentially world-ending escalating crisis between Ukraine and Russia, the NATO proxy war. You see that? That's the city of Austin right there. Beautiful. You got the Colorado River right there. That would be vaporized in seconds by an airburst hydrogen bomb. Russia is probably targeting at least a dozen warheads on Austin, Texas alone. The United States is targeting all of their cities as well. The atomic energy

3:44:41 Nuclear Science Association very respected has the doomsday clock the closest to midnight many nuclear war it's ever been So does the rank corporation and other respected think tanks to study this? The threat escalation ladder is continuing continuing the EU says they tend to stay in power by a 20-year conventional war with Russia They believe will never go nuclear while NATO bombs inside of Russia via the proxy Ukraine. This is insane and It needs to stop. The EU is collapsing. They admit their plan is war. It is nothing but sheer madness. Napoleon got defeated attacking Russia, so did Hitler. It is beyond insane. We also have Netanyahu who's in major political trouble. He wants war with Iran. Iran's got major problems, but Israel has defeated their proxies in Lebanon, in Gaza, in the West Bank. So Trump's also fighting to stop that.

3:45:27 But just remember all you liberal Democrats out there and others, your parties, leftist parties in Europe as well, are the thumbing at the mouth warmongers that blew up the Nord Stream pipeline and so many other insane events. And it is we the populist, common sense people, R.K. Jr. and others, a lot of them aren't even quote conservatives, that are following common sense, very popular policies. Over 80% of Americans, Europeans are against these wars. But the corrupt elites last refuge when they're hanging on to power is always war. That's what these broadcasters are so incredibly important. Here is Trump's special Russia Ukraine war on vague envoy, Steve Whitcoft talking on Fox News. And we'll take you back to the live transmission here today with

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