GLOBAL EXCLUSIVE: The Most Famous Documented Survivor Of The CIA's Mind Control / Child Rape & Torture Program- MKUltra- Cathy O'Brien Reveals New Bombshell Information Concerning Child Sex Trafficking, And The Trump Admin's War To Stop It

00:00 And these children who are being rescued cannot wait for our system to clean up. They need people to open their eyes, open their hearts and start making a positive difference now. And it helps for people to. There's hope for these children. They can heal. It is within us all to heal. I'm living proof of that. 30 years of torturous MKUltra mind control on a White House Pentagon level, and I am healed. I have reclaimed my life's purpose, my joy. I live the love I am. I've aligned with the divine within. I have so much ability to be consistent and strong in who I am.

00:41 Plus, I have the defense against mind control. Once we understand it, we evolve with a defense against it going forward where we cannot be triggered anymore. We cannot be manipulated. And so this, these children, as they heal, they're going to be an evolutionary giant step forward for all of us. not only is it hopeful that they can heal but that they will light the path forward for future generations. So I'm excited at this moment in time that we're at. We're at such a interim pivotal point that it's difficult to see what's happening and it certainly doesn't seem to be happening fast enough. But my gosh Alex after 30 years and

01:28 35 years of speaking out now, I've certainly learned patience. I was about to say, I mean, you've been exposed as long as you went through it, but we got very slow movement now. Now things are rushing at light speed comparatively. So people that are just now waking up, I get you on instant results. We're getting things way faster. Praise God. The Satanism was part of my childhood. Victimization. It was part of my victimization within my Catholic church, which was aligned with the CIA and the criminal Jesuit pedophile MK ultra satanic operation.

02:06 That led up to Lieutenant Colonel Michael Aquino, who you just showed in the video there, being my primary MKUltra mind control programmer. And he believed in the power of of mind control, he believed in the power of trauma, and he didn't worship Satan per se. He worshipped just the pure evil that he could exude and that he could inflict. So, you know, he was like Hillary Clinton in that regard, who they believe in their own evil more than anything else. They love that about themselves above all

02:47 other things. So it's not that they're religiously following an an occult ritual setup as much as they're using it for MKUltra mind control purposes very deliberately. Of course, Lieutenant Colonel Aquino put the occult temple asset on a military basis because MKUltra is used on and by the US military. And his aspect in that was very powerful form of mind control during those years. And again, it's not because he believed it. He believed in the absolute power of MK ultra mind control and the extent to which you could control a mind through using extreme trauma and pedophilia.

03:37 The government fears Alex Jones, who has the largest audience in the country, bigger than any of the networks, the biggest megaphone in the country. The deep state hates Alex Jones with a vengeance. Alex Jones is the most extraordinary person I've ever met. It was so hard to come running out of a hell that nobody believed existed. My name is Kathy O'Brien and I'm a survivor of MKUltra mind control. The MKUltra program was to ultimately control the minds of the population for implementing what Adolf Hitler first termed the New World Order. When girls reached age 30, they were murdered or they were sacrificed. I was going to be killed as well.

04:42 I was to go out in a blaze of glory and be burned alive. I'm so fortunate that an intelligence insider who saw the kind of corruption that was going on in the highest levels of government decided to take action and rescued me and saved my life so that we could begin to expose what was being done.

05:36 When I first heard Kathy O'Brien's story 30 years ago, I knew about the globalists. I was on air, and she seemed credible, but I just couldn't believe it. And then I listened to Ted Gunderson, former high-level FBI agent on the camp that publicly exposed the Republican Party and huge child trafficking operations out of Omaha, Nebraska and other areas. And it just the rabbit hole went from down there and now so many declassifications out of MKUltra and Naomi and Dr. Ewing Cameron and Jolly and West and tens of thousands of little children brainwashed sex slaves. This has even been on Discovery Channel History Channel now, but they never show you the actual survivors. Now DHS and Homeland Security we were covering this yesterday in the documents with Ryan Madda, filmmaker journalist.

06:24 estimated the 350,000 children smuggled in that the patrol had and helped cover up on record, they admit that, their disappearance and no DNA testing, that on average they live 36 months if they're not rescued. And so, and I had a member of parliament on from the UK a month ago that documented that they're shipping kids in from Ukraine and they don't keep until they're 30 now. That was the old mind control project. They kill them usually within a year after they quote use them up, cuz and then they harvest their organs. And I've been there folks when little kids are being put in the hatchbacks of cars, no IDs to be taken and put on unmarked planes and disappear. I've seen them put in the cars, I have driven to the airport, and I filmed them disappearing. And you can go now under Trump, it's gone down 95%. It's still some of it going on, but in the last few years we go down there and

07:24 It wasn't like again deer hunting where you set a deer stand and wait five hours for a deer to come out. It was everywhere. Any town, McAllen, you name it. All right? Yeah. And this is footage we shot through little tiny holes in the windows because they would put black paper up or paint over. The kids would scratch holes in it. We would come up and put our cameras up to it. And this is hell on earth. So Kathy O'Brien is a hero, a champion. Now they released a lot of the finders documents five years ago confirming the CIA and a huge command bases in DC where they would film the child porn to create the market and the snuff films. It's all there. And I will tell you 93 days into the Trump administration, we're going to our guests, I'm gonna shut up, that Trump gets an A plus from our board patrol experts, the numbers, all of it on stopping new kids being shipped in, but an F minus

08:25 ongoing and prosecuting and finding the children. And our own reporters and our own crew and people like Muckraker, Anthony Rubin and others, they've gotten DHS files on kids and they've gone and found them in prostitution as young as six, seven years old, being raped dozens of times a day. James O'Keefe, Found them here in Austin and San Antonio and Houston. I've done it. I can go now with a crew and just drive around and see a bunch of kids and stuff and pull up and it'll be quote social workers and and and and you know, parents that are guardians or have kids assigned to them by the court and then you start talking to the kids and they'll tell you right there and then vans will pull up with creepy men get out. I say get out of here. These are our kids. I mean you've seen the footage we've gotten.

09:16 What's wrong? I'm here to pick up little girls. I'm gonna show them the way of the Lord. Why are you trying to stop me? And we sit there and they bring little kids out and hand them to the man. He drives off to Pennsylvania with the kids. I mean, this is the reality. And I'm not saying all foster parents are in on this, but it is a large percentage, keeps coming out, judges, police chiefs, captains in rings all over the country, the social workers, that's where they go to get access to children. compared about school teachers raping kids. This woman comes in all day and hands over baby, this is my baby, this is my baby, no paperwork signed, no paperwork, they hand the kid off, gone. And we're gonna be the whistleblowers that are on the planes, in the studio, they vote to Congress. In Senator Trump's last administration, almost none of this. It was real kids with a record to real people, real family.

10:10 99% work going to family, going to single men, little Asian girls being given to black men that aren't even citizens or little white kids being given to Hispanic men at whore houses. The Biden-Harris administration didn't lose track of 320,000 migrant children. They did it purposely and it's not, it's 350 and the Border Patrol estimates it's a million. So, Kathy O'Brien, thank you so much for being here today. I want you to go wherever you want first, however you want to tackle this, your story, you should probably recap that and then what you currently see and the fact that what is it like to see what you went through as a beta test, which they admit, as you said decades ago, to then externalize this and expand this cult. And what's come out in Europe, 30,000 children purposely placed with pedophiles by the German government to create a quote, new civilization, that came out the last five years. I mean, it goes on and on.

11:09 The magnitude so Kathy God bless you and thank you so much for being here Thank you for having me on. It's been some time since we've talked and, you know, what we're seeing today isn't new. What's new is that people are finally seeing it. Alex, this has been going on my whole life. I have been speaking out for over 35 years on MKUltra mind control and healing from it. I was used on a White House Pentagon level. I was deep in the swamp among these perpetrators who steal elections. and use drug and human trafficking to fund their globalist agenda, who use the pedophile blackmail operations to hold each other by the blackmail and perpetuate their secret society for this mind control operation that is not only affecting individuals, but it's affecting the whole world now.

12:10 The formula for mind control is the same whether it's of an individual, a nation, a classroom, a military, or the world. Trauma is the basis of it. And it was found through the Hitler Himmler research. There is no trauma more horrific on the human mind than sexual abuse of a child prior to age five while their brain is still forming. It shuts down neuron pathways in their brain and makes them compliant. And this globalist slave society agenda, this new world order, great reset, whatever we want to call it, is a slave society agenda that needs us compliant.

12:48 And that's what we're seeing really is all about. And it's why we're experiencing so much trauma. My goodness Alex you think about it. Thirty years ago you and I met we were speaking out on this and doing everything we could to bring truth to light. Let people know that there was a corrupt faction of government back then referred to as a shadow government to deep state whatever whatever term we want to call it. It's a dark negative vibration energy force that has been infiltrating governments and all things sacred my whole life. And you know it's time people woke up realize we share this planet with these horrific perpetrators who are selling out all of humanity to fit their agenda. And our children are the ones who are targeted.

13:45 When you and I met 30 years ago, I was speaking out on my daughter's behalf. Not only was she born into MKUltra Mind Control and exposed to the same military DARPA and NASA MKUltra Mind Control programming that I was, But she was then thrust into the corrupted so-called child protective services. And when that happened, I was speaking out because by then I had gained my free thought, my free speech, and it was love for her that compelled me to speak out. And it was that long ago when you and I

14:21 first met and my gosh, look at the world of change that has happened since those days and the world of change that has yet to happen because we have got to get this problem stopped. Absolutely. And just for people that don't know, when I first read your book, it had to be 30, 31 years ago, cause I was just kidding on air and I had a lot of knowledge, but it was about, You guys were the beta test and it was meant to externalize into the total culture takeover of mass mind control. And a lot of this was already come out in hearings and things, but the tens of thousands of kids on record that the CIA funded grabbed in Canada, the US, and some were taken from their parents, some grabbed, some of the parents were working with them. It was coming out of the Pentagon, the CIA.

15:10 and then using these children for couriers, for spies, creating artificial multiple personalities, electroshock, chemicals, I mean literal mind control, Manchurian candidates, so that's not just a movie with Frank Sinatra. Imagine with children, that's where you can really do it. And then now as I learn more and more, it was 100% real, 100% dead on, and your book today, because I just re-read it last year, is Not evergreen, but ultra green in that it is more powerful than ever. And the film, which I need to see, and I want to talk about your film, I need to see that, people need to see that because you just, again, where do the kids go? Where do they happen? Why don't we ever discover them? Why can't Tom Holman, who I know is a good man, and General Flynn's advising him, what's happening? And we know the cases of many that have been saved

16:07 They torture these children and now, and in your day, they would sacrifice, and I've seen this depending on the subgroup, I know they use Satanists as kind of their management level group, when one of them was 15, 20, 30, depending on the cult. But now they're killing them by, just after a year or two of torture and taking the organs, it's just, it's just, it's just incredible and you know that the other women you knew the other girls that you knew we go for hours we stay the next hour that be great or have you back soon, but just where do you perhaps we should start at the beginning then for for people that have heard of you but don't know because I think the eyewitness stuff is what people need to hear. Yeah, it is you know when I was speaking out and so fortunate to even have survived it very few dead and I wish to be killed as the

16:56 trans movie was saying. When I turned to age 30, because I was considered used up, I was being used as a sex slave. I was delivering messages to and from these global leaders and working the CIA, black ops and everything else. I had been exposed to so much information that they were going to prove that perpetrators' secrets would die with me and I was to be sacrificed at Bohemian Grove. That's what the Bohemian Grove sacrifices are about. It's more than just a ritualistic display. It's also proof that secrets are dying with the MK Ultra survivors. So it was at that time that I was being passed to my demise

17:43 that intelligence insider Mark Phillips, who is working the highest levels of intelligence mind sciences to preserve the sanctity of free thought, stepped in and lifted my daughter, Kelly and me, right out of the Washington DC human trafficking swamp, saved my life, saved my mind. And I've been on a healing journey ever since of being able to help other people to know that healing is possible no matter what happens to us in life. No matter what this life puts in front of us, what happens to us is not who we are. Who we are is still within us and it's within us all to heal. So as we face this dark reality of what's been going on my whole life, of this MKUltra, of what's being done to the children, those who do survive will

18:37 be able to heal. And that is my message that I'm so excited to be able to bring out there. Had my testimonies been the same for over 35 years because I healed from within myself. We have within us the ability to heal and we have been blessed with the most resiliency of body, mind and spirit. And that's the information that I'm so excited to share today. Those first years with Mark, for 30 years we spoke out on this globalist slave society agenda, what the New World Order was all about and how mind control was being used to create a robotic society that would do exactly what they're told to do. And that it was also a depopulation agenda to reduce our numbers to both sides. And by the way, you said that on my show and in your book 30 years ago. And now, five years ago, I know you've seen this, but I want your take on it.

19:39 The CIA, NATO used in West Germany from the 60s into the 90s, it's still going on over 30,000 plus children placed with pedophiles, convicted pedophiles. And it said to create a new culture of love and that's sick to get rid of the family. And then to, so it's creating the disease of it to then expand it into the general culture, which we see with the whole LGBT, trans agenda now and that's everything your book said and then decades later it gets partially declassified in Germany exactly what they've done here. It's incredible. I mean we already know your story's true but it's absolutely true. How the hell could you know that?

20:26 It's so amazing too that you know when you heard it as much as you didn't want to believe the magnitude of the reality of it all, you went crawling in on your belly and filmed what was going on at Bohemian Grove. You were one of the very first to get that information out there. And that was a deeply appreciated. There have been so many of us who've been out here all these years just hammering away at this truth, trying to wake people up. Well, now we're in the midst of the great awakening and it's our opportunity to be able to effectively start making the positive, necessary changes that you and I and others like us have been screaming about for over 30 years. Absolutely. And I remember when I was first getting on air,

21:13 People that have been victims of stuff said it's a place in the Redwoods. They killed a kid in front of an owl. We're not saying at their main ritual where they get guests to go there that they even know what it's part of. It goes on year round. The point is the CIA cult, which they admit runs that and created it, they at their own time use it for that. So the media tries to conflate the cremation of care every mid-July with other stuff that goes on there to say, oh no, it's just a play. No, that's their externalization of people they're trying to recruit into it. But definitely it continues to come out that That that is an epicenter of this. What's your information on Bohemian Grove, Kathy O'Brien?

21:49 Yes, you know, again, trauma is the basis of mind control and those traumatic events do control other people and the onlookers. And that's the Hitler Himmler research that we brought into the US through Project Paperclip showed that there's no trauma more horrific on the human mind than sexual abuse of a child. And equally right up there is blood trauma. This formula for mind control is a scientific exact formula. It includes sleep, food and water deprivation because that starves our brain when we don't have proper nutrition. That's what's happening to our food supply. But this secret formula was being kept in secret societies like my grandfather's Blue Masonic Lodge where all the local politicians and law enforcement

22:41 hung out and also at places like the Bohemian Grove or the Epstein Island of its time when I was a child being, uh, prostituted to pedophile leaders as a little bitty child, Mackinac Island, Michigan. I want to go through all these places when we come back, but just hold that right there. We're about to break about three minutes, but I want you to continue and go into detail. We got all the time you need here, but Again, look at the Catholic Church. Look at, they'll use any big institution, the Boy Scouts, they've taken, I mean, how many institutions, even when you were being tortured 35, 40, 50 years ago, I mean, what percentage of these have been partially infiltrated or totally taken over?

23:25 A lot of them have been infiltrated horrifically. You know, the Catholic Church, now that would be quite a topic right there because my father was trained by cardinal law on how to raise me in MK Ultra. Cardinal law came out in the Catholic child abuse scandal some years ago before he was just transferred to the Basilica in Rome. It's just been going on a long time. The infiltration has gone unchecked for so long that these places now are very much saturated with this kind of abuse. We've got a long way to go to clean this mess up. Let's start with the FBI, the CIA, and our school systems and our

24:12 Our churches, yeah, we got quite a ways to go. We're going to break in two minutes and I want to come back and talk about Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell, Steve Jobs' widow, Epstein Island, what politicians, you know, who, name names here, of people you, what you witnessed is incredible information that ties now all vindicated. But Omaha, Nebraska, DeKalb exposing it, Ted Gunnarsson and others. Why does Omaha keep coming up? Can you just talk about that briefly? Well, the Franklin scandal was a massive one that was coming out at the same time. And of course, I knew Ted Gunderson real well and John DeCamp and the Paul Bonacci of the Franklin scandal had named my handler, Alex Houston, as his abuser. And as a matter of fact, Alex Houston was in Boys Town

25:03 at the time in Nebraska when Mark Phillips lifted my daughter and me right out of our MKUltra mind control victimization. You know, so it figures in very strongly. It's one of those powerful truths that needs to come to light. Incredible. You know, we're so thankful to you and we're so thankful to the man that saved you. We should probably come back and talk some about him and actually go back to when he did save you and talk if you're comfortable doing it. I think people need to hear some of what your memories, your earliest memories and what happened, the type of missions you were on. And then I want to get into Epstein. I want to get into all of it with you. Trans-formation.com at real Kathy O'Brien on X. Where's the best place for people to get your incredible book, Transformation of America?

25:53 on my website. It's secured there. Where you said 30 plus years ago, you were the beta test and then you and thousands of other girls and boys to be expanded out into general society, literally like you're a time traveler. It all happened. I mean, I read the book again last year about six months ago and I I was just blown away because I was just everything they were saying is now come out. It was all just like, oh, oh, oh, it's just like, whoa. I mean, this is so premeditated. It's Satan. We'll be right back with Kathy O'Brien. Stay with us. It's been a major news story for months that in the last eight and a half months, I've lost 63 pounds and gained muscle. People ask, how have I done it? Intermittent fasting, better diet.

28:30 Kathy O'Brien, the more we learn, the more we see, the more we realize how incredibly on target she was because she experienced it at point blank range. One of the few survivors that's got her mind because most of them get killed. We know that. That's official now. And I remember reading her saying they kill the people after they use them up. Now it's all confirmed. And Think of the mind control though, going back to every ancient culture when it would collapse, it didn't matter if you were Mesoamerica, Middle East, Asia, Europe. They find cultures that collapse at a certain point because the priesthood takes over, it becomes satanic and they demand you sacrifice your children to them. And of course you know the raping of the children goes along with that. It's Satan.

29:20 And it's acting through humans. And if you can get people to give them their children, they'll do anything. It's a gang initiation into these devil cults. It's total mind control. That's what this is all about. And it's happened in every civilization, every society throughout history. And if it's not stopped, it collapses civilization. Now, this is done So they have dirt on people that are part of it. It's also done because these are evil people running and who like it because they want to attack God. You do that by attacking children. And they've now externalized it everywhere. The trans movement, the LGBT, QPS, Satan, all of it. The euthanasia, all of it is about death. And humanity is waking up to this now. And Kathy O'Brien, the most famous, well-known MKL survivor,

30:23 and fighter joins us now trans-formation.com and the new the film the Kathy O'Brien story trance how they were going to use this beta tested and roll it out everywhere to bring down and take control of society and put everyone under the mind control because when you know this stuff's going on And you know the schools, public and private, government and corporate grants to form a relationship with your son or daughter. When they're very small, tell them they're really in other sex. Get them into the gay community. Don't tell your parents. Assign a social worker. Don't let the parents know. And then line them up to be taken from the parents and put into these homes that will protect them and guard them, fast lining them into the sex trade. That's what they tell trans people. Oh, you're all gonna be in the sex trade. Trans, trans, transformation, the trans transformation.

31:10 And it's all here now. Oh, the parents, oh, major hospital chains in New Jersey, Texas, secretly sterilizing kids illegally. Isn't there young 5, 6, 7. And then when a doctor blows the whistle, he gets indicted. Trump pardoned him or dropped the charges when he got in. This is all beyond just grooming for pedophilia. It's about taking over the mind. Remember Jocelyn Elders, the surgeon general nominee of Clinton saying, we masturbate the babies. Remember that's a quote. She said we reached down, it doesn't matter what the parents say, masturbate the babies. This is literally pedophilia out in the open. So and they just keep pushing it and pushing it and pushing it because it's their religion and their externalization of the plan. So Kathy, I want you to go over your story, important eyewitness stuff, and then the process, the type of government officials, the things you saw. And then now we know from the Epstein case, buying girls as young as nine or ten in Eastern Europe

32:15 Using them for sex slaves for many years the ones that work good for them. They would then make managers over the other young girls and and people you know, Youngest five coming in the media tries to keep it in a higher age to distract or limit it everything you said right there in a microcosm and then Steve Jobs wife and and Epstein Island and and she owns the Atlantic and all their attacks and saying pedophilia is not a problem or it doesn't exist or pizza gates not real I mean you really see this and then just Just, just, you know so much and you know, you mentioned Epstein and just start wherever you want here. Uh, Gil Gislaine Maxwell, her dad running for MI6 and Masaad on record the, the, uh, pedophilia honey pots, then he gets killed. And then obviously she was abused and, and, and, and as this was a sex operative, uh, and slave, and then she's put in the position, uh, I know most are killed, but then some are managed and actually brought into the cult, uh, because they, they like it.

33:13 It's just so important. So, Kathy O'Brien, please continue. All these ways that you've mentioned are ways of using mind control and shutting down neuron pathways in the brain. Ultimately, knowledge is our defense against mind control. When we understand our own mind-brain function and our brain's reaction to trauma, then we'll start having a defense against it. Because when trauma occurs is when we need to safeguard our free thought. When we understand that, we'll also understand that the shutting down of neuron pathways in a conscious mind shuts down our free thought.

33:51 It shuts down our conscious mind filter. Without a conscious mind filter, our subconscious mind is wide open to being easily led and manipulated. The most basic formula for mind control is repetitive media narrative. repetition is the most basic form. So after repeating, repeating, repeating, it goes into the subconscious mind. And then the subconscious mind is what drives our thoughts and ultimately our actions. So it's important for us to be able to safeguard our free thought and understand that ultimately this is a spiritual warfare.

34:31 Because I know from my life's experience without free thought, there's no free will. With no free will, there's no soul expression. Without soul expression, we have no discernment of truth, we have no compassion for each other, we have no ability to gather that strength of the human spirit and the infinite power of love. and live our life's purpose. So in that regard, it is a spiritual battle. And when we understand that, we realize these perpetrators who are manipulating our minds only have as much power as we give them or let them steal. We have the ultimate victory. There's nothing more powerful than the

35:14 the power of love is the most powerful force in the universe. So, you know, when we live the love we are and gather that we're going to be able to maintain our free thought, we're going to be able to evolve with the knowledge that's our defense against mind control and start recognizing just how long this has been going on. Because like I said, it's been going on my whole life. I was born into a multi-generational incest-based family in Muskegon, Michigan in 1957. My father was sexually and ritually abused. My mother was sexually abused and trafficked to my grandfather's Blue Masonic Lodge. And I was being sexually abused from infancy.

35:56 I didn't know my father's sexual abuse was wrong, but my brain knew. And it shut down those neuron pathways around the trauma from the horrific suffocation and pain of his abuse and pushed it deep into my subconscious where this repressed memory just stays there until it's triggered back open, like when my father would come in to sexually abuse me again. Then his sexual abuse extended into child pornography. And this child pornography shut down more neural pathways in my brain and shoved it deep into my subconscious. So I was losing more and more capacity for free thought back in infancy before I could even understand that what I was experiencing was a violation of any kind.

36:45 But my brain knew, and my brain knew when I was trafficked to my grandfather's Blue Masonic Lodge. It was there I was trafficked to a local politician since I was a little bitty toddler. And this politician, my father had been caught sending child pornography of me through the US mails. And this politician told him he could receive immunity from prosecution if he would agree to sell me into the CIA's MKUltra mind control. My father agreed. This shows how long our courts have been corrupted to allow for the proliferation of pedophilia.

37:22 This was all the way back in the early 1960s and already national security was being invoked. We look back at the wake of World War II when we imported the Nazi and fascist scientists into the US with Project Paperclip. With them came the formula for mind control and right thereafter The CIA was formed to make sure that it all went into place. And the National Security Act was formed to keep make sure everything was kept secret. Well, this local politician who gave my father immunity from prosecution was Gerald Ford. Of course, he's the same Gerald Ford that went on to become the unelected president of the United States. And he was rewarded that position for covering up

38:09 the Kennedy assassination. He was a head of the Warren Commission and covered that up. We look back and understand that the Kennedy assassination was an event that traumatized the nation and is when this globalist slave society agenda took a strong hold on our society. And it's been going on and raging ever since. And that's how we now know, it came out 10 years ago, mainstream news, that the CIA finds pedophiles in Afghanistan, as one example, and makes them the village mayors or the town mayors because they don't even want money as long as they can get kids.

38:51 And then they find they're the best slaves because they want the kids. And it's the same thing all over this system. And now we know with the drug cartels for the first time ever worked together under the Biden administration to smuggle the kids, to hand them off, to work with the Border Patrol that was ordered to facilitate it. It's all compartmentalized and that's a microcosm of your father gets caught and they say, hey, that's all right, join the big leagues with us. And so those are the minor leagues. This is just absolutely pure evil. It is. After my father sold me into the project, he was flown to Boston, Massachusetts, where he was trained by cardinal law on how to raise me in MK Ultra Mind Control. There was a strong alliance between the CIA and the criminal faction of the Jesuits that for mind control purposes with pedophilia as the basis of it.

39:47 Pedophilia was also used in the blackmail operations and was part of the secret societies, the Masonic Lodges and the other secret meeting places. perpetrators would go. And the Vatican was actively involved through the Jesuits straight on down to sanctioning the pedophile activity within the church. And by the way, let me just stop you there to elaborate. You were saying this 30 plus years ago, it's in your book, that a lot of people you named later came out were doing exactly what you said, boom, boom, boom. And then you have under Catholic regulations, canon law, you're not supposed to have the Jesuits

40:29 Having a Pope you get the first Jesuit Pope who just died a few days ago and it even came out mainstream news He used blackmail and pedophile information to get the papacy and it just goes right back to that I mean this is this is all right there Yeah, I've been censored under national security for so many years and I wish this information could have come out sooner. Maybe so many children wouldn't be so horrifically abused. But it certainly has been my love for them that's motivated me to keep speaking out. And, you know, it certainly isn't to say that all Catholics are bad and, you know, there's good and bad in everything. It's just that the corruption was so strongly rooted long ago. It was even behind the Hitler-Himmler research and it was part of the origin of the Catholic orphanages.

41:26 when they would have the violent Spanish inquisitions and the Crusades and the children were just born. It is now, this has all come out and they want people to just forget that this is going on. And now you have the left saying they're gonna target conservative Catholics and all the rest of it. So we see through this last pope, the attempted full public takeover by this evil of the Catholic Church. And now there's a larger fight, but that fight in the Catholic Church is happening in every other institution as well.

42:06 It is. And you know, that's something that we all need to start realizing. We need to open our eyes and reclaim our own free thought, free will, have that soul expression so that we have discernment of truth because not everyone involved is bad. You know, even right down to who flew on Epstein's plane or who's on the ditty list. Some of those people are the abusers. Some are the victims. Some are the whistleblowers the ones who were appalled at what they saw and started making the positive necessary change So we need to start opening our eyes instead of just snap judging and blanketing everything I totally agree and let's explain that I want to make something very clear though Let's put that New York Times headline back up, you know hundreds of thousands of kids with Catholic Church abuse But even per area thousands the New York Times the whole corporate media would report on it and

43:00 While the Jesuits that came out, this is even London Guardian, were blackmailing the rest of the Vatican to vote to put Francis in, the head of the Jesuits, and then as soon as he got in, suddenly the corporate media everywhere went totally silence on the pedophile ranks, because the mission was complete to get control, you see. And now they get a pope that isn't part of this in, watch, you'll suddenly hear all about it again, you see. It's amazing how they, and that's how they take over all these institutions. Yeah. You know you mentioned that censorship. You and I are certainly no strangers to censorship. But if people open their eyes and follow the money it's going to go to the same handful of puppet masters and perpetrators at the very top. They decide what we're going to hear in the media. They're going to spin that news. They're going to do everything they can to divide the people and accuse keep us diverted our attention diverted to

43:55 blame the wrong people. We need to go right to the top and stop these perpetrators, the ones who hold the blackmail tapes. Why are they holding them? Who are they holding them over? What is their manipulation for? Now, these are the puppet masters we need to go to, the ones who run the big pharma, who have all the advertising on TV, who control that repetitive media narrative that we get blasted with. Like when Mind Control Masters of Virus was unleashed on the global population, all we heard no matter where we were was mask up.

44:32 get the injections, social distance, over and over and over. That is- And they later declassified that all the intelligence agencies worked together to quote, brainwash and terrorize the public as a psyop to train us for a new way of life, living in an open air prison. I wanna play this clip though because people are like, where's the Epstein list? Well, they were hiding it in New York. They went and raided it two months ago. Now they've given the files over, but who knows what's even in those. to the local FBI offices, that'll take time. But as for finding the million missing kids, it's really a million, and then expose the people they're with, we know it's sex slavery, it's come out and been confirmed, the FBI's own reports, that's where it's like shooting fish in a barrel. These are current kids, these are little kids, a lot of them are getting killed, they're in hellish slave labor or sex labor, that's confirmed, and the Senate own reports, this is where we need action. Here's President Trump provides an update on Epstein file release, here it is.

45:28 I don't know. I'll speak to the attorney general about that. I really don't know. I know that we've done, we've done the RFK, the Kennedy Martin Luther King is out there very shortly. So we'll find out. And we've, we've really, really announced, We're doing them in full transparency. You know, when we did JFK, people were saying, oh, maybe it wasn't all. It was all. And people actually went up to the office and they looked at some things that were, you know, not really easily available. And they were amazed that we we gave it all.

46:12 I don't know if it solved any problems for people. People still have questions one way or the other, but that, I'm not, but 100% of all of these documents are being delivered. So people then say, oh Trump, Trump didn't even have until a month and a half ago, two months ago, the New York documents they were hiding. But at the same time, I can give them time on that. Now they've got the local offices around the country have been given it. That's what they're supposed to do, start the investigation there. This is new material. But on the children and on the 350,000 missing bare minimum, and they have been admitting many of them are in sex slavery. What do you think is going on? Why do you think we're not seeing anything happening? Or is it just anything is too horrible for the public to know? Just gonna let these kids continue to be tortured and die?

46:58 I think that there's a lot of good people who are making a powerful difference that is more outside the system. It's people helping people. It's those of us with eyes to see, ears to hear and soul to know truth who can step up and make a positive difference. So there's a lot to go. But Cleaning up the system is going to take more time than anybody would want it to. I love what Cash Patel said when he was going to dismantle the FBI building.

47:33 Washington, D.C. and turn the Hoover building into a deep state museum. I just thought that was great. He said he'd do it day one. Well that's if there's no pushback. There's so much pushback. And these children who are being rescued cannot wait for our system to clean up. They need people to open their eyes open their hearts and start making a positive difference now. And it helps for people to There's hope for these children. They can heal. It is within us all to heal. I'm living proof of that. 30 years of torturous MKUltra mind control on a White House Pentagon level, and I am healed. I have reclaimed my life's purpose, my joy. I live the love I am. I've aligned with the divine within. I have so much ability to be consistent and strong in who I am.

48:26 Plus, I have the defense against mind control. Once we understand it, we evolve with a defense against it going forward where we cannot be triggered anymore. We cannot be manipulated. And so this, these children, as they heal, they're going to be an evolutionary giant step forward for all of us. not only is it hopeful that they can heal but that they will light the path forward for future generations. So I'm excited at this moment in time that we're at. We're at such a interim pivotal point that it's difficult to see what's happening and it certainly doesn't seem to be happening fast enough. But my gosh Alex after 30 years and

49:13 35 years of speaking out now, I've certainly learned patience. I was about to say, I mean, you've been exposed as long as you went through it, but we got very slow movement now. Now things are rushing at light speed comparatively. So people that are just now waking up, I get you on instant results. We're getting things way faster. Praise God. Stay right there. You've agreed to stay to the next hour. We're also going to take some calls. Be respectful folks and, you know, serious questions here, which I know we're going to give. This is amazing. I've been through a lot that you get to talk to. Really the ultimate whistleblower all confirmed amazing information get her book at transformation.com. You must read it You must see the film as well trance the Kathy O'Brien story We're gonna go to break in about two minutes We're gonna put her on hold and then we're gonna come back, but I want to just say something right now. We have the bad guys

50:01 And it's all part of the same constellation. This whole system, they don't want World War III to stop, they don't want all these agendas to stop, turning us into commodities, turning us into guinea pigs. They want our bodies, they want our children, they stole Elon Musk's son. You have to understand, it's all part of the same project. It's all part of training the general public to accept this evil. Well, we're not accepting it, we're standing up They fear our children, they fear the future, that's why they're targeting. This broadcast is standing up for all of our collective futures. And when you support us, when you share the reports, you are changing the world, you have all the power. So share the live feed right now from Real Alex Jones on X, CIA mind control sex slave survivor, Kathy O'Brien is on air exposing

55:45 So I took my methylene blue and I feel good. My skin feels warm. It feels like my blood's flowing better or something's happening anyway. Something's definitely happening to me and it feels good. God Almighty. All right, Kathy O'Brien, this is a five-minute segment. Some stations don't carry it, but still it's on the internet. It's important. I want to give you the floor here. and then continuing on to go wherever you want. And we're also, because you've been gracious to do it, we're gonna give the number out next segment and for questions specifically on your experience or mind control or these different horrible projects that are going on from the listeners. So we'll give that number out coming up. But there's so much we could talk about. What are other areas you want to get into?

56:39 But the healing area is just so very important for people to understand because that even goes into the school system. Like when Mark Phillips handed me the keys to healing, he reminded me of what we've all been blessed with all along, you know, that it's within us to heal. And he taught me to write out my memory. And by writing out my memory, what that does is it opens neuron pathways in the brain. Remember again, the mind control needs to shut them down. Moving the pen activates the logic critical analysis part of the brain and it shifts emotionally incomprehensible trauma over to logic, opening neuron pathways all along the way, where it's written out on paper in front, consciously seen, and all of a sudden you're healing. Psychiatrically, psychologically, emotionally, spiritually, it all comes in at once through this one simple brain hack.

57:40 It's such an important brain trick that they took writing by hand out of the school system very deliberately so that the children would be indoctrinated. rather than know how to think. If we get writing by hand back in the school system, that can stop the indoctrination of our children right there. And it can activate that logic, critical analysis part of the brain again, get their brains firing. Keyboards do not do the same thing. Well, that's right. Police will tell you when somebody doesn't remember things perfectly, they'll hand you a thing and they just won't write it out. And when it does that, it really works.

58:17 It does and it makes the emotionally incomprehensible logically comprehensible where it's understood that way trauma doesn't have to be relived. it's just understood and dealt with and it can't be triggered anymore once those neuron pathways are open. So it's a real important simple process. It's one that was kept from mental health very deliberately. This information on our mind-brain function was buried under national security. When Mark Phillips saw that, when he was working the highest levels of intelligence, mind sciences, he was livid. It's her birthright information, but it was kept from the medical community, the mental health community and from society as a whole. So it's um... For people who don't know about Mark Phillips, I've met him many times, great guy. I mean tell people about Mark, what he did and how he's... well we're gonna go break him up, but just something about Mark Phillips, interesting, really interesting guy.

59:14 Well, Mark was a spook. He wore every hat. He could be CIA, FSA, CIA, whatever, Secret Service. And it put him in the places that he needed to be. And when he was in those places, he saw the corruption that was coming in. He saw how mind control was being used on individuals like my daughter and me. He saw how mind control was being used on the whole population. how our government was being infiltrated by these globalist perpetrators through rigged elections. He saw all of that happening. By the time he saw little children being taken in and out of the White House, and the blackmail that was going on with these pedophile blackmail operations, he was livid. He decided he couldn't speak about it. He was bound by laws of sedition.

1:00:08 But he could do something about it. And that's when he lifted my daughter Kelly and me right out of that Washington DC human trafficking swamp. What a hero. And how fortunate for me not only to have survived my ordeal but to have someone with the insight and knowledge that Mark had that remind me that it's within me to heal. Mark did not deprogram me. He reminded me how to deprogram myself and by healing from within myself that allowed me to gain access to the answer. Cathy stay right there, back in 60 seconds. Well, Cathy O'Brien, CIA mind control victim, broke free from it and then wrote the book that just absolutely

1:01:01 in my last 30 years of research, every line of it has been confirmed. I mean, you see it in the society, you see it all. And it's just mind-blowing. She's going to take some phone calls coming up, about 15, 20 minutes. We're specifically talking about MKUltra, mind control, the externalization of the trans movement, the left openly sexualization of children. They're making their move and humanity's fighting back. And the public and private schools, the big grants literally trying to cut your children away from you and put them in a cult and not tell the parents. I mean, this is beyond evil. And it's hiding in plain view and it's all over the world. Drag queen story time from Australia to the US funded by BlackRock, convicted pedophiles in many cases, men dressed like clowns, saying they're a woman, little kids being put on their laps. I mean, this is just

1:01:57 The quote LGBT parades with like the kids like captured slaves marching at the front holding flags. I mean this is truly satanic. All these different choirs, the San Francisco choir, we're coming for your kids, we're grooming them, we'll get them, you'll never stop us. Texas legislature a month ago had these people testifying, we need access to your children, give us your children. We're here to groom them, they are out in the open, they are making their move. Kathy O'Brien is our guest toll free number to join us 877-789-2539 877-789-2539 877-789-alex and remember

1:02:36 All over the country now, the private big hospitals give a form at birth with dozens of names. Your child's gay, they're trans, they're queer, whatever. They're all these terms as if the baby can choose, but no, now the parents choose. So if you say your kids, when they're trying to brainwash him when they're five, is really a boy when he is a boy, not a girl, well, that's abuse your kid they want to take. They're trying to pass laws. They are in like Colorado, same thing in Europe. But if the parents want to choose what it is and the state, oh if it's something else, it's beyond physically now even raping them. It is inducting him into a cult to be chemically and then medically sterilized. And she talks about the Nazis, you're talking about Joseph Mingala and his torture on children, sexual abuse, all that, then coming in in the files to MKUltra. That was in the Senate

1:03:25 Committee hearings on MKUltra in the 70s under Frank Church. So this is what she's saying is on record people The toll-free number again 877-789-2539 Kathy there's so many places to go we can get into Epstein. We could get into the border, Mayorkas, all of them. I mean, there's so many places to go. Where would you like to go next? Well, I think it's important that the healing methods Mark taught me are posted on my website at trans-formation.com. I posted them there when Mind Control Masters of Virus was unleashed on the global population.

1:04:07 I need that healing information and reminder, you know, it's not about me. It's about us all and that we have within us the resiliency of body, mind and spirit. When we understand components of mind control, we understand what in the world is happening today with trauma after trauma. We understand How depersonalization occurred with our children by masking them up. And that caused an identity disorder, not a gender disorder. The transgender movement is a depopulation agenda. It's to stop human procreation. And we need to understand that these things have been in place.

1:04:47 for a long time. It's been a part of the plan. They were unfolding it. And that's why it was so important to me when I saw all the components of MKUltra being imposed on people with the Mind Control Mastiza virus, that I went ahead and posted that on my website where everybody can have the information now and and download it. So it's easy to self-apply. It's a simple little workbook because it reminds us of what we've been blessed with all along and how to access that. It reminds us of simple things like to eat well, eat nutritious food, because starving our brain, we're not thinking clear enough. Neuron pathways are shutting down. We need to get nutrition back in our food. We need to get the chemicals out of our water.

1:05:40 And we need to get plenty of good, peaceful rest. We need to get out in the sun. It's important to get out in nature and breathe in the air, to consciously feel the earth beneath our feet. Take off our shoes, hug a tree, feel the wind in our hair, feel that sun on our skin. We don't need the sun blocked. We need that sun. And by the way, I totally agree. That's why in New Zealand and Germany, in Canada and Australia, they all have the same script. Don't look at the sunset, don't talk to your neighbor. They were trying to put everybody inside to be mind controlled by corporate media.

1:06:15 But it backfired because instead they came to this show and other shows. There's what Doge discovered, just one contract, the Pentagon paying Reuters to engage in widespread social engineering operation, large scale deception against the American people. And that funding went back to COVID brainwashing. And they spent 300 million targeting Elon Musk at Reuters with Pentagon money. So I mean, this is, they don't even, they even call it in the document widespread deception of the public. They don't even, I mean, Kathy, what do you make of that? Masks are used in MKUltra, and my own daughter was trafficked in a mask. We look at MKUltra victim Michael Jackson, and remember how he wore the mask. And the reason that they mask victims of

1:05:40 And we need to get plenty of good, peaceful rest. We need to get out in the sun. It's important to get out in nature and breathe in the air, to consciously feel the earth beneath our feet. Take off our shoes, hug a tree, feel the wind in our hair, feel that sun on our skin. We don't need the sun blocked. We need that sun. And by the way, I totally agree. That's why in New Zealand and Germany, in Canada and Australia, they all have the same script. Don't look at the sunset, don't talk to your neighbor. They were trying to put everybody inside to be mind controlled by corporate media.

1:06:15 But it backfired because instead they came to this show and other shows. There's what Doge discovered, just one contract, the Pentagon paying Reuters to engage in widespread social engineering operation, large scale deception against the American people. And that funding went back to COVID brainwashing. And they spent 300 million targeting Elon Musk at Reuters with Pentagon money. So I mean, this is, they don't even, they even call it in the document widespread deception of the public. They don't even, I mean, Kathy, what do you make of that? Masks are used in MKUltra, and my own daughter was trafficked in a mask. We look at MKUltra victim Michael Jackson, and remember how he wore the mask. And the reason that they mask victims of

1:07:10 of MK Ultra and trafficking is because it inhibits oxygen to the brain necessary for critical analysis free thought. It muffles voices. It feels like we can't speak out to each other. Remember at that time that Michael Jackson started wearing a mask if he ever spoke. In public, he whispered. He started whispering at that point. It's sensory deprivation. For those who don't know, it's on record. Michael Jackson's father tortured and raped all the children under mind control. You said that decades and decades ago. That's why they tried to set him up. He never did any of the things they said. Talk about Michael Jackson.

1:07:48 Well, I have so much compassion for that situation. And Janet Jackson and Latoya had done what they could to get information out to Latoya even released a book back in the mid 90s exposing the child abuse and MKUltra. So much of that has been silenced and instead the media just spun things away that they chose to. But Michael Jackson's I think as a great example of how the masks were used in MKUltra and why they totally depersonalize. You can't see someone's expressions whether they're smiling or sneering or whatever. So we depersonalized our children during

1:08:33 this mind control mask is a virus. And then we put them behind plexiglass and kept them from hugging their grandparents. We did all that. And then right after that, what did they do? They opened it up and they had the kids sticking dollars in tranny panties. And the tranny education in the school. I mean, it was just so ridiculous what was done, but it was done in a succession of mind control abuses that have, you know, done some significant damage to our children and also damaged the parents. Now they're realizing they're seeing the effects of what was done to their, their children during that time. They're sorry they had them get the injection. Now we have traumatic grief.

1:09:19 for people to get over. Again, PTSD time to heal helps people get over that, to be able to move forward in their lives, to understand mind control, how they had complied with it, because once we understand that, we won't comply with it again. Knowledge is our defense against mind control. And the good news is, the globalists even admit, COVID backfired wildly. They're not God, they're not invincible, and now they're being exposed at exponential levels. Well, you know, the strength of the human spirits are saving grace and haven't been around these perpetrators. They're such a dark, low vibration, negative energy force. They feed off a trauma. They feed off of fear. They feed off of hatred and division. That's their vibration.

1:10:05 That's their level of energy. And they fear the strength of the human spirit and the infinite power of love. They fear that when we align with the divine, remember who we are and why we're here and live our purpose, that we'll remember we have all the power. They only have as much power as we give them or let them steal. It's like their darkness can't creep in on our light. It doesn't work that way. Light shines over their darkness and dissipates their darkness, exposing their dark secrets. So it's, when you look at it from that vibrational aspect, it's very important that people everywhere write out their fear, write out their trauma, write out their grief,

1:10:53 Write out what's immobilizing them. And then as they write that out, add a solution. Because if you add a solution, and I spell it with a S-O-U-L, if you add that solution, you're forcing your brain to fire in new ways, lifting you above the dark trauma. It's like rising above the storm so you get a clear view forward. It opens neuron pathways even more. So that's what we're wanting to do. We're wanting to get our brains firing, open those neuron pathways, pick up that pen and paper, get out in nature,

1:11:29 Eat nutritiously, drink fresh water, get plenty of rest and start connecting with each other again. I totally agree. What do you make of Robert F. Kennedy Jr.? They just banned the thousands of poison chemicals they put in the food and medicine to fry everybody's brains. If this only the U.S. has this stuff being legal now, it's not legal. These are real moves right here. I mean, this is why they wanted this poison for the for the mind control. Yes, and that's what's accelerating the Great Awakening. And in so many ways, this is a spiritual evolution that's happening right now. And we're seeing more and more people waking up to live the love they are, to dare to care for each other.

1:12:12 to get active in their communities. You know they're getting away from their devices and getting out to connect with each other again and hug each other again. And it's a beautiful thing to see. Nature is such a saving grace. The animals are there for us. of unconditional love to remind us of the simple beauties of life that we all need to get back to. This is an amazing time to be alive and to have such a powerful message of healing and of hope and to be living proof that it is within us all to heal no matter what. Absolutely, and I'm glad you're talking about breaking free from it. I totally agree. Everything they're doing is trying to suppress us. You're talking about being empowered, which is totally true.

1:12:56 Their main mission is to break our will to demoralize us. Specifically, you mentioned earlier, I didn't want to cut you off, but I break about it 45 minutes ago, Epstein and islands and things, there's so many things you could tell, but being trafficked around DC and then the Epstein type operations, you were starting to get into some of that and I didn't want you to be cut off. Well, I was used by these perpetrators in their drug and human trafficking operations. So that was something that not only was I exposed to and forced to participate in and deliver messages to and from government leaders, but I was also used in the pedophile blackmail ops that they produce when I was a little child. And certainly there was a lot of covert perverse

1:13:50 I saw it very much up close and personal. I also experienced the the human trafficking operations that the Clintons were forming, what was going on in Haiti, what was going on in the Virgin Islands, a little bit pre Epstein Island, but nevertheless part of the same operation and the building up of these perverse places. And we need to understand that when they're identified like Mackinac Island, Michigan was,

1:14:29 then they move someplace else. Bohemian Grove, you certainly helped expose that, Alex, and now that's shutting down. They're going to move it somewhere else. So we've got to stay aware of that and realize that when we hear the global self-appointed, self-anointed global leaders telling us the New World Order is done. It's not. They're going to rename it and move it someplace else, just like they do the Epstein Islands, just like they do the Diddy parties. These have been going on my whole life. I've certainly been on those planes and on those lists of having been there. I was there as a victim. But, you know, that's, again, something that people need to realize is

1:15:18 that the lists have the victims and the victimizers and people who were exposed to it who then become whistleblowers. So it's something I was exposed to throughout my MK ultra victimization and something I've been bringing to light ever since. And if people ask what why Satanism is using this. It's the precursor. Secret societies, cults, it's just the ancient term for mind control and there is the spirit behind it. It's a spiritual but Ted Gunnarsson exposed it how these cults, how the CIA was using Satan cults on military basis. Some towns they'd almost completely taken over. You don't just see that in movies. That's Hollywood telling you where they are able to even take over towns and things.

1:16:04 They don't just take over larger institutions and then they can just basically do whatever they want and then recruit more people in and then the cults are in concentric rings. The insiders know who they're working for. As you go out further and further, people will know less and less or are involved less and less. You might think you're in a new age group. No, it's really a Satan cult. It's really the CIA. And so it's got all these feelers and all these groups out there. But you said your father came out of a sexual ritual abuse thing. What type of rituals. Was it satanic or was it in some type of other, you know, Aleister Crowley type thing, which is satanic, but they say it's not, or, or was it, what was it? And then what other, did you ever run into Satanism outside of, of, of that? Yes. The Satanism was part of my childhood

1:15:18 that the lists have the victims and the victimizers and people who were exposed to it who then become whistleblowers. So it's something I was exposed to throughout my MK ultra victimization and something I've been bringing to light ever since. And if people ask what why Satanism is using this. It's the precursor. Secret societies, cults, it's just the ancient term for mind control and there is the spirit behind it. It's a spiritual but Ted Gunnarsson exposed it how these cults, how the CIA was using Satan cults on military basis. Some towns they'd almost completely taken over. You don't just see that in movies. That's Hollywood telling you where they are able to even take over towns and things.

1:16:04 They don't just take over larger institutions and then they can just basically do whatever they want and then recruit more people in and then the cults are in concentric rings. The insiders know who they're working for. As you go out further and further, people will know less and less or are involved less and less. You might think you're in a new age group. No, it's really a Satan cult. It's really the CIA. And so it's got all these feelers and all these groups out there. But you said your father came out of a sexual ritual abuse thing. What type of rituals. Was it satanic or was it in some type of other, you know, Aleister Crowley type thing, which is satanic, but they say it's not, or, or was it, what was it? And then what other, did you ever run into Satanism outside of, of, of that? Yes. The Satanism was part of my childhood

1:16:56 Victimization. It was part of my victimization within my Catholic church, which was aligned with the CIA and the criminal Jesuit pedophile MK ultra satanic operation. That led up to Lieutenant Colonel Michael Aquino, who you just showed in the video there, being my primary MKUltra mind control programmer. And he believed in the power of of mind control, he believed in the power of trauma, and he didn't worship Satan per se. He worshipped just the pure evil that he could exude and that he could inflict. So, you know, he was like Hillary Clinton in that regard, who they believe in their own evil more than anything else. They love that about themselves above all

1:17:53 other things. So it's not that they're religiously following an an occult ritual setup as much as they're using it for MK Ultra mind control purposes very deliberately. Of course, Lieutenant Colonel Aquino put the occult temple of set on our military basis because MK Ultra is used on and by the US military. And his aspect in that was very powerful form of mind control. during those years. And again, it's not because he believed it. He believed in the absolute power of MK ultra mind control and the extent to which you could control a mind through using extreme trauma and pedophilia. And you notice he's also got a Nazi SS blade in that footage we just shared. They were also into the Nazis as they saw that as a great expression of evil.

1:18:53 Absolutely. Well, there was such an alignment of the satanic aspect in the Nazism and it's in the records that were brought into the US through Project Paperclip. So those were things that he gravitated to and was very much a part of and learned at the psychological warfare division. That was where he was trained. So, you know, he was my primary MK ultra mind control program because I had had such extensive satanic abuse in my childhood that it tapped right into those blood traumas and was used from there. Did you ever see them kill people?

1:19:34 Absolutely. Oh my gosh. Yes, it's horrific how many are murdered. I know it needs to be for people that don't know. Could you mind just telling people a few of the events? Well, I think one of the important things to understand is that the Satanists drink blood and they drank blood of tortured victims, whoever was on the altar. That was precursor to adrenochrome and why that ended up becoming so big in the course of this promotion of Satanism. Back in the early, well, back in, by 1977,

1:20:16 I was in the backwoods of Louisiana under the abuse and control of my handler, Wayne Cox. He was a CIA assassin and a cult serial killer. He was part of a satanic network that had Roger Clinton, Bill Clinton's half-brother, was in his coven. together, they were working the CIA cocaine operations that were running out of Mina, Arkansas. And at that time in the late 70s, when I was being so horrifically tortured and abused through the satanic aspect, Hillary Clinton's precursor to adrenochrome paralleled the CIA cocaine operations and the blood was being transported through the same

1:21:10 the CIA cocaine lines that Bill Clinton was part of. So that's been going on for so long and it has a very satanic origin. And that satanic origin is that when someone is extremely traumatized and the blood is adrenalized, that is what they were feeding off. And again, these are very low vibration, dark negative energy force perpetrators that literally feed off of low vibration, negative energy. So that's something that needs to be understood and realized that they know full well the scientific aspects of exactly what they're doing. And it's not because they worship Satan, it's because they worship the power that they have over humanity. That's what Satanism is, is worshipping themselves and the raw power over people. Right. But

1:22:10 That's so evil. I mean, how satanically evil is that? It's just an ultimate, ultimate evil. Well, I will say it's skull and bones that created Bohemian Grove. At the highest levels, it is spiritual and it's a real entity. But the mid-level that people think is the highest level, the actual programmer operators, they're all psychiatrists and people, they go, oh, it's not really real. And I think they know it is, they just tell people it's not. That's been my research and my experience. Kathy O'Brien, stay right there. We've got loaded phone lines for you. Dave, Jason, Brian, Joe, Chris, Mike, Seth, Kevin, Joe, Ed, and Ian. We're gonna move quick, quick question, quick comments. We can get to all of you. Kathy O'Brien, trans-formation.com. Get her book. It's incredible. You must read it. More important now than when she wrote it 30 plus years ago. Stay with us. All right, this is a review for the

1:25:22 That's been on Infowars.com for decades. People want to take clips of the show, put it on local radio, put it on local TV. The lawyers will always call from those stations if we have an authorization. I got so tired of sending authorizations every day. I just had lawyers write it and put it on the site. So they got big problems, but they will try to get this off. Everything we've done, they have a mission to silence this broadcast because they track it back to so many of their problems. And boy, like Kathy O'Brien said about an hour ago, we have come so far awakening people and things are moving so fast. We need to push harder than ever right now. As Kennedy said yesterday, got to redouble our efforts, but we also be very thankful that we've come this far. Okay, let's move quickly through the calls. I'll just go in the order they were received. Dave in FEMA Region 9, you're on the air with Kathy O'Brien. Go ahead.

1:26:11 Thank you so much. A proud VIP member found you last year, Alex. Thank you. It's so brave what Kathy's doing. We need to continue to expose these people in the spiritual war. One suggestion, if I might, since we're in a spiritual war and we need to take back our republic, I think we need to do so via our language. As you know, a minor can never consent to sex. They are raped. People brought over the border that are adults are forced into indebted servitude. They cannot withhold consent as well. We need the shock value of the word rape because that's truly what it is. When we refer to things as sex trafficking, I think it mutes the impact. I'd love to have- I totally agree. It's the sex slavery industrial complex.

1:26:59 Yeah, but I think when you use the word sex it pacifies it for people. It is the rape, it is the rape, slavery, satanic industrial complex. Yes sir, I appreciate it. I'd love to hear Kathy's perspective. I was abused as a kid but never to the level that she was and my prayers go out for her and her continued healing and to continue to heal his flock, capital H, his flock. We're all God's children, sir. Absolutely. I mean, I know so many people that say they were abused and I believe them. We have a former employee, a great guy, who just said, you know, said, I've had mental problems from time to time because when I was a kid, you know, the Catholic priest would take me and, you know, and middle of the night at the church and rape me in like basically satanic rituals.

1:27:45 And then it just comes out that in Germany with the 30,000 plus kids, that after they gave them to the convicted pedophiles, there were three, by the time they were seven, they were taken to the local other churches too and raped in the sanctuary. That's part of the blasphemy. That's part of the Satanism. What would you call it? I agree, sex trafficking waters it down. Sex slavery waters it down. It is the mass sexual, word again, it's the mass satanic raping of children. What would you call it, Kathy? It's evil. You know I mean it's there's the words that we call something you know may fall on someone's ears who's not ready for the harsher term. So it might start opening ears. Whatever words we use. I think the ultimate thing we need to realize is a

1:28:30 When we live the love we are, that is how we defeat the evil. When we start gathering that strength of the human spirit, we have the eyes to see, ears to hear, and soul to know exactly what to do to dismantle this. We need to take positive action now, and how we define it is less important than what we do to combat it. And that's our victory. Absolutely. Thank you, Dave. Jason in Colorado, you're on the air with Kathie O'Brien. Go ahead. Hey Alex, thank you so much for taking my call. I just want to say I love you brother. I had a chance to meet you at the Great Awakening private party. My wife and I met you right before you spotted the drone outside the window. And I just want to tell you that you've saved so many people's lives, millions of people's lives, and people don't give you credit for that. Cassie, this is Jason and Tammy from Colorado. How are you? Oh, I'm doing great. I'm doing great.

1:29:25 It's good to hear from you. Kathy spoke at our summit last year, a naturally inspired health summit, Alex, and it was amazing. I wanted to ask her to talk a little bit about tying nature into healing with PTSD. And she talked about that a little bit already. So I wanted to bring another thing up that many people don't really know and talk about. Kathy's from Michigan. And when she first came out with her book, she talked, of course, she told us all about the horrific things that were happening. But in Michigan, there's another island called North Fox Island. And it was Epstein, pretty much pre-Epstein. It was an island that was owned by a rich guy that they were bringing children to, and it was a pedophile island there in Michigan. So I just wanted to maybe get her take on how Michigan had played a huge part in not only with pedophile and pedophile rings, but it actually tied into Houston with the

1:30:15 with the Candyman murders that were there in Houston, Texas. And it was a huge ring going on. It actually tied into Colorado too. So Kathy, I just want to say thank you for exposing all of that information because if people would have listened to you more back then, they would have stopped so many things and so many, of course, horrific abuse that would happen. Do you know much about North Fox Island and how Michigan was such a huge part in the pedophile ring there? I appreciate your comments here so much. And yes I'm familiar with that. I'm also familiar with Beaver Island. I mean Michigan was so saturated with with MK Ultra. Beaver Island is where the Joan Benet Ramsey was taken in

1:31:00 My father and John Ramsey were on the same ferry going there for MKUltra purposes. So, you know, there's a lot of information that ties in, in so many, many different ways and it just continues to reverberate. Michigan's a horrific mess. When I was there, George Romney was governor. Of course, that's Mitt Romney's father. and we get the same people over and over again. Alright sir, thank you. And of course there's lots of different degenerate evil satanic things these guys are into. Briefly, can you tell people about the most dangerous game? The most dangerous game is a military maneuver of human hunting.

1:31:42 And it's an attempt at survival against the odds. And it's something that MKUltra survivors are, MKUltra victims are subjected to. And it's to condition the mind to think there's no place to run and no place to hide. Because I mean, the game is rigged and you're gonna get caught. So it's absolutely horrific. It's a very commonly used Trauma and one that a lot of perversions are, you know, accustomed to doing those happened at Bohemian Grove. They happened in Mount Shasta. They've happened in so many different places, and I doubt there's any limit.

1:32:31 It even happened at Cheney's Ranch and Jackson Hole. The most dangerous game is just carried out wherever these perverts hang out and take a notion to traumatize the victims. Let's take another call. Chris in Connecticut, welcome. Hi, hi Alex, how you doing? Doing, we're doing Lord's work here. Thanks for calling, go ahead. Okay, yeah listen, I just want you to know that a small group of us here in Connecticut, we love you man. Well I appreciate you boy. Connecticut's a beautiful state, but boy it's a stronghold of evil.

1:33:07 Oh, you're not kidding. Believe me, I work here. I know how it is. But, you know, just to get to, um, Kathy, Kathy, I've seen your videos on YouTube and I'm sure you probably already know that a lot of these videos that I try to look for again, I can't find them. So obviously, you know, you have the media is just trying to shut you down. I'd like to know You know, I see that this is a serious, serious problem. We're victimizing a lot of kids, victimizing a lot of women, a lot of people overall. Well, they're killing them. They're killing them. And this is worldwide, okay? So you have, like Kathy, you were in the inside and you saw exactly what was going on. And for example, like Trump, Trump is, he's the president over time, but he's part of the elite and he sees what's going on, okay? But how can you stop a problem that's such worldwide when you have, I mean literally, politicians, actors, musicians, part of the elite, they're all part of it. You're asking is it too big to bring down? Well, it's gonna bring us down if we don't bring it down.

1:34:10 Yeah, what can we do? Mark and I would talk about that. I've got some blog posts that dealing with that subject matter about how global unity will defeat the new world order. There's also information there on how the perpetrators feared president. Well, he was a president then, how they feared Trump all the way back in the mid 80s that I know of because he couldn't be bought off and he couldn't be blackmailed. They couldn't be coerced. And he was adamantly opposed to drug and human trafficking across open borders. He was adamantly opposed to MKUltra mind control. So there's a lot of

1:34:47 good people who have been awake and aware for a long, long time that have been working to dismantle this mess. We're watching it happen. We need to be part of it. It's going to take each and every one of us to do our part to wake up, remember who we are and why we're here, and start taking action. This is our time. It's our time to shine, and it's going to take us all. Absolutely, thank you so much Chris. Let's talk to Mike in California. Mike, you're on the air, welcome. Hi, my question is about four years ago I was trained on using risk assessments on sex offenders that generate sentencing reports for the court. And one thing I've noticed that seems to be a thread through it is early childhood sexual abuse that the parents just may have thought, well, you were too young to know this or you were just so young we just thought it would just go away.

1:35:38 It turns out it manifests in a lot of impulses that they don't understand. And so my question to you is, one, how do we, what would you tell parents like if their kids have gone through this at a young age? Would you say, get them into something or just wait and see how things manifest? Because it seems like the brain just works on its own and just starts shutting down. Yes, it does. I would rec everywhere pick up PTSD t it's simple information r right information and it w mind brain function and u in the mind of a child wh

1:36:20 abused, who's ritually abused, who's physically abused, or abused in any way. We've got to start understanding the effects of trauma on the human mind, and that will help us all. And that's what COVID was, was that they had met a mass attack on the children globally to set them up for this. Thank you so much. We're moving quick to everybody. Joe in Arkansas on CPS and the children, DynCorp, all of them has come out and run giant child kidnapping rings. They're not all involved, but they know it's some of the main suspects because they want to be in there so they can control it. Like the Clinton Foundation, they got caught shipping Haitian kids out. She changed her name, became the head of Amber Alerts so they can control things. Joe in Arkansas, you're on the air with Kathy O'Brien. Go ahead. Yeah, thanks Alex for taking my call. Yeah, my question is for her.

1:37:03 as a child I was in CPS in 1980 and in the state of Arizona and So I got snatched out of school when I was a child because my grandfather whooped me which I I had it coming and When I was in school, it was mandatory after PE that you had to take a shower And then you went to your next class. But anyways, um when I got to the CPS home that they sent me to which was a couple nights. There was a few stops in between the house that I arrived at. There were six girls and me, and they kept us all out of school. And this house had a home base CB unit and they were using the kids the town of the lawyers on ahead truck stops, and it still does at this time.

1:38:04 what they were doing is they were calling out to the to the truck drivers obviously they weren't making it obvious so so us kids at night time usually would take like brownies or something to the truckers but anyway so my question is is i want to know if there's some like outreach uh for people who were in cps because i uh years ago absolutely there is There's a whole lot of information coming out on the Child Protective Services. It's even called Child Pedophile Service. And there's also a huge effort to organize around it so that children can actually be helped instead of thrust back into trafficking situations. Back in the, from 1990 on, my own daughter was thrust into the so-called Child Protective Services.

1:39:00 My book, Access Denied for Reasons in National Security, details the corrupted system and what we did to navigate around it. Sure, I think he's asking if there are any organizations or groups that are good that help expose this. The information is there. It's on Audible. I suggest he looks into that and looks into my website and also PTSD Time to Heal. There are so many organizations now that are working around that. That's right. And how scared is that? You can tell the pedophile networks are scared, but they're suddenly trying to normalize it because they know exponentially they're being caught. But be clear, Joe.

1:39:41 Are you saying you were put in the CPS and immediately you saw them literally delivering little girls to truck drivers? Yeah, so this house that I went to had a home-based CB unit and they would, so it was an older couple, it was a lady and a man, they were both in their 60s and they would call out, you know, they wouldn't make it obvious. And so there was always a truck driver that would call back and they would load us all up. No kid could ever stay behind. If one went, we all had to go. Like I missed a whole year of school. I'm sorry the show's almost over. We'll have to get you back. But sir, we'll have to get Kathy back and have victims call in or people that know this. And what then? They would take you to a place and they would choose who they wanted or what would happen?

1:40:34 Nope, it would all happen in a truck. It would all happen at a truck stop. The town of Eloy, Arizona still to this day there's not much there. Were you abused? Yes. Yeah. So it took my mom almost a year to get me out. Yeah, all because your grandfather spanked you. These people are sick. Yeah, yeah. Yes. Yeah. You spanked me and what happened is it left marks on my leg. No, I understand how these people operate. It's pure evil. Yeah. Yeah. Kathy, what percentage would you say of the CPS or pedophile enablers or deliverers are involved in it?

1:41:21 I think the involvement is so extensive now it'd be very difficult to clean up and it's really important that... That's the point, if they're not doing it, they know what's going on and they're covering it up. Pure evil. God almighty. We could take these calls all day. This is insane. Ed in Georgia, you're on the air. Go ahead. Hey Alex, long time listener since the 90s, and Kathy we just ordered your book. I grew up in Omaha during the Franklin scandal, and I knew the kids that were involved. I've been to some of the parties that they had. Everybody knew about their parties because there was always booze and

1:41:57 good times at these parties. I don't know if you know a lot about it, but supposedly the Bushes were involved, the mayor, the police chief. They had a gal who accused the police chief of fathering her child. Alicia Owens was her name. It came out they were running child kidnapping rings in the Republican Party. Right. She was, she served more time in prison for accusing the police chief of fathering her child than the people who embezzled the millions of dollars. And that doesn't prove that what she, that she didn't have sex with the police chief. It just means he's not the one that- No, no, I understand, but just in general, what did you, what were you hearing there in Omaha?

1:42:40 Oh, everybody knew about the sex parties. There were people supposedly being flown out to the Bohemian Grove. There was all kinds of stuff. The kids, you know how things get around. Kids, hey there's a party over so and so. It was going on, but yet they conveniently covered it up saying it was an elaborate hoax. and carefully crafted hoax I think is what they did. They're also delivering kids from the Boys Town charity, right? Boys Town, yeah. And it's still going on. There's still stuff going on. You know Omaha is a hub of child pornography and child sex trafficking or child rape trafficking. I agree with that earlier. Sex does... No, you're right. It should be called child rape trafficking. That's what we need to use the caller's debt on.

1:43:32 That's how they water this stuff down. Ed, anything else? One way to stop this and it's a spiritual war but I think it's gonna need to be send these people to their Satan that they want so bad. Send them to him right away. God bless you Ed. I hate to cut you off. We're almost out of time. We got a few more. Kathy, can you come back soon because it's been too long and people are really waking up to this now. Yeah, I would love to. I would. We the people need to see some justice and you know your callers certainly. Well, you know the day they shut us down probably next Thursday or Friday that show will get a hundred million views. I think the last person I want on when they lock this up is you. Everybody knows what the bad guys are up to. Let's real fast take a few quickly. Kevin in Maryland, go ahead. Kevin in Maryland, you're on the air.

1:44:26 Hey guys, thanks for taking my call. I'll be really quick. Kathy, kind of knowing that you've been involved in this operation or that you've seen this firsthand from the federal level, from, you know, the Hollywood level from a lot of different angles. What would your, I guess, tip or your message be to this administration? I mean, I think this administration is on fire right now. And going to Alex's point at the beginning of the show was there's still all these kids that are out missing, right? There's, well, quote unquote missing. But what would your tip or what would your message be to Trump now or the administration now? Because maybe for the first time, maybe ever, we have an administration that will

1:45:03 would actually do something about this, but maybe previous administrations would kind of turn a blind eye to, you know, previously. So just curious to see what- Yeah, they've definitely cut the flow off 95%, that's on record. But we're not seeing, you know, the FBI says in 36 months on average the kids are dead. I mean, they know they're dying. We need action now. Yeah, we need to see some justice. We do. Absolutely. And also, I hope that people as they're waking up realize the magnitude of the roots of this corruption. The roots of the corruption are detailed in my 1995 testimony for Congress, Transformation of America and Access Denied for Reasons of National Security. The corruption is so

1:45:49 deep that is going to take some time for us to have a system that-. Well, remember Barney Frank, he was running 12, 13 year old sex slaves out of a building in DC. When it came out, he went on the floor and said, if this isn't shut down now, FBI investigation, I'm exposing all of you that are involved in this. And they shut it down that day. Dennis Hastert, on and on and on. Yeah, if we had a media that would broadcast truth, if we had a justice system that would prosecute the evidence and the crimes against humanity that we have against people like the Clintons, that would just be a nice start to all of this. Absolutely. Got to jump here. Thank you, Kevin. Let's go to Ian in Texas real fast. Go ahead.

1:46:35 Yes, sir. Alex, good to talk to you again. I just wanted to talk quick and mention you always talk about how they take a sample of the blood on a newborn. Yes. And a long time ago, I'm blood type O, and a long time ago, somebody told me that there is a PIA list of all blood type O and that goes along with of course what you always say in regards to, you know, they do that blood test right away. The other thing I wanted to talk about is about, I know some of this is kind of touchy, we can't talk about certain things, but as far as MKUltra goes and the school of shooters, it seems to be kind of like an American phenomenon almost. Oh, 100% CIA has come out, and then around its pedophile ranks 100%.

1:47:20 Right. And you know, I just wanted to say that I do think that we are on the edge of something really great, but it's probably going to be one of the most policy turvy times. Oh yeah. I mean, they're being exposed. It's exponential, but there's a lot further to go and it's getting more intense. God bless you. Kathy O'Brien. Thank you so much. God bless you. Let's get you on the show early next week again, because we need to get this focused on Thank you so much. Everybody should see the film Trance, the Kathy O'Brien story, the book Transformation of America. Thank you so much. Trans-transformation.com. God bless you. Thank you. Appreciate you. It's up to you now. The show's over in a minute. Owen takes over the war room.