2:45:31 Because all of that is about an allegory of the Christian system and the final battle, right? Battling the great beast system, the Eye of Sauron. That's what Tolkien was writing about, and that's what C.S. Lewis was writing about. And they knew what these people were up to. That's who they're writing about these people. Don't you understand that? They understood from within the system, just like George Orwell did, Eric Blair, what the socialists and the technocrats really have planned. This is the Alex Jones Show. Don't go anywhere. I'm Jay Dyer. Welcome back to the Alex Jones show. I'm your guest host Jay Dyer of Jay's Analysis. We are working our way through the infamous globalist text that just lays it all out in actually a pretty short number of pages. It's about 150 pages, so
2:46:12 If you want an easy, quick, to the point read, I highly recommend reading The Open Conspiracy by H.G. Wells. Of course, if you don't have time to do that, one of the things I do is I lecture through all these books for you. I'm the nerd that does your homework. You can go to my website, you can go to my YouTube channel, and you can find playlists where I lecture through, I think we're about up to 50, maybe even almost 60 now, writings of the elite, including many white papers, documents, all in public domain, by the way. All of these are public documents, public writings by very powerful men, very infamous, influential figures, Brzezinski, Kissinger, Jacques Attali, these kind of geopolitical stage people out there, well known. They all write everything that they're up to in their books, and I think that that's what
2:46:57 you know, people who are just uneducated on this and don't really know what's going on. They don't realize that, you know, if you were to be in an international relations program in a college at the graduate PhD level, you would be exposed to a lot of these writings. You would be exposed to Kissinger. You would be exposed to Brzezinski's writings. And all this would be really, really pretty easy to find, pretty accessible. And nowadays with the internet, I mean, it should be even more easy to verify. It should take about five minutes to find out if this is really a book by HG Wells and who HG Wells was, right? Just do a little bit of Googling. You could easily find this out, right? So we're kind of at a point where it's inexcusable, I think, to be ignorant of this. We're reaching that point where it's like, if people aren't awake by now, they're probably not gonna wake up, right? But we do have a significant portion of the population awake. So never give up, always continue to try.
2:47:51 But back to HG Wells, I was talking about Tolkien and Lewis. And if you remember, both of them were familiar with HG Wells. I think Lewis would sometimes go to kind of a writer's circle, not necessarily the Inklings, but there was a separate circle of writers and people that he was familiar with. A lot of the Cambridge and Oxford elite in those decades knew of each other. They knew of Huxley and Lewis knew of HG Wells. Of course, they had diametrically opposed worldviews as did Tolkien and Wells. But keep in mind that people like Wells, people like Bertrand Russell, people like the Huxleys, those are who Lewis and Tolkien are thinking about. And so they knew about books like this. They knew that these books were publicly out there being published stating openly what they planned to do.
2:48:39 And so the next time you're talking to a skeptic and they say, well, I don't believe in any of this conspiracy crap. That's all made up. Are you familiar with C.S. Lewis? Are you aware that he talks about all the same stuff? Have you heard of Tolkien's Lord of the Rings? That's actually about this. Did you know that? That's actually about this. Or by the way, that nice little L saying I there on the cover, maybe that helps kind of put this into perspective. H.G. Wells goes on to say that we are at war with tradition. Main thing we got to fight is tradition. He said, you want to prove that? He says, look at flags. He says, flags are made up. Therefore, countries are made up. Right? Well, that's kind of a fallacy because if flags are made up, then the British Empire is made up, which is what he was a propagandist for. So I'm curious if he actually thought that the British, he actually probably would say that too, right? He would say, well, I don't really believe in the empire that employs me and uses me for this technocratic endgame. But
2:49:36 Eventually, it will give way to the perfect technocratic order. By the way, if the New World Order came up with a flag, wouldn't that mean that the New World Order's flag is also fake? I mean, you see how easy it is to kind of refute these ideas that if everything's just made up, then, and everything's relative by the way, then his whole system is made up and relative. Why would we accept socialism if nothing's true? I mean, he's saying that there's not really anything true. Everything's just constantly evolving. Well, isn't it also the case then that That's evolving, that that's not objectively true. But you'll notice that they're never really concerned with being consistent. They're mainly propagandists. Remember that H.G. Wells was a, he was the Edward Bernays of his time. He was the great propagandist of his day and got it down to a scientific technique. That's why he wrote so much science fiction. Now every now and then he would also write these kind of nonfiction books saying here's the real plan.
2:50:30 But if you go read my fiction books, those are all propaganda to seed the ideas, right? War of the Worlds, what's that about? Well, that's not really about aliens. I mean, it is, but it's really about the alien threat, the fear of global catastrophes and global war. We've got to have science to save us. We've got to have a scientific world government controlling body that will save us from the calamities of mankind. He says, we're gonna have to have phases. He says, let me give you the phases. He says, the first thing we'll do is we'll roll out more and more and more class warfare. Now remember, he's writing this back in sort of the heyday of Marxism back in the 1920s. And he says that we're gonna roll out class warfare because if we can convince everybody that class warfare is the easiest path to world government,