2:45:56 Capitalists versus Marxists. He says, no, what actually was the case was Marxism and socialism are tools of very, very powerful wealthy people. And they are cognizant of that. There are people that are in the know about that. In fact, in my mainline history class, my mainline Marxism classes in college, my professor who was, he wasn't a conspiracy theorist at all. He said, Marx couldn't have done anything without the wealthy stock owners like Engels behind him. Why would wealthy people be behind Marxism? Do you think that they're all stupid? Don't go anywhere. We'll answer that when we come back. Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show. I'm your guest host, Jay Dyer of Jay's Analysis. We're discussing the British Empire, its techniques and tactics of espionage and subversion and certain players and characters that are crucial to understanding this narrative of the 20th century and particularly where we're going in the Great Reset.
2:46:51 And there's a great page in Sutton's book where he gets into Lord Milner, who told the British government to have a dual policy, particularly the Lloyd George government. If you remember when we covered Dr. Carol Quigley, that dual policy also applied to tiny mustache men, right? The British had a dual policy because according to Quigley, they wanted to goad Hitler into trying to take Poland and trying to take these countries because they eventually had a war plan. So they gave a dual policy that one that was public disapproval, but private approval. Well, guess what? There was a dual policy from Lord Milner to the Bolsheviks.
2:47:33 And what's amazing is that when we get deep into a lot of these famous British spy biographies, they actually divulge a lot of this. We actually find out that something else seems to be going on here as opposed to what the public story is, right? Of the Western opposition to communism and this kind of stuff. There seems to be something more at stake here that kicks off what will later be the Cold War. And so Milner has this famous character that he sends who is the British intelligence liaison to the Bolsheviks. His name is Bruce Lockhart, famous British spy. And he was part of that dual policy. And because the British power structure couldn't openly say that they supported socialism, they had a private inner party like Milner and others working together with Rothschild, who sent Lockhart to be the secret go-between to say, hey, by the way, we actually support you guys, Lenin, Trotsky, et cetera.
2:48:30 Now there's a couple of characters who eventually got detained. One of them was a revolutionary who I think was an anarcho-communist, so he fell afoul of Trotsky and Lenin and these characters. His name was Maxim Gorky. And when Gorky was caught and interrogated, I think this is in Russia, he said, well, what I've discovered is that the revolution the Bolshevik Revolution is actually, quote, a giant science experiment. Now that's interesting because we find other British establishment people also calling the Russian Revolution a, quote, science experiment. It was Bertrand Russell and HG Wells. It's fascinating that we find this plethora of characters saying that it's a science experiment from very different worlds, very different
2:49:20 ideologies, but we're finding commonalities which to me suggest that people were actually stumbling upon what was really going on a long time ago and they couldn't really make sense of it. They couldn't make sense of how it's the case that the Western power structure elites would actually be supporting what is supposed to be the very opposite of their whole ideology. And we have to, I think for some of these people, right, they were bound by their time and by their limitations. They didn't have the internet. They didn't even have access to even necessarily the libraries that we have today. So, you know, they just couldn't figure a lot of this stuff out.
2:49:56 And there's another case study of this, which is again, somewhat theoretical. We don't know if this is 100% sure, but it does ring true given what we've seen, what we learned since then in a lot of these things that have come out. And it's called the Red Symphony, which is a famous interrogation of a guy who was caught under the Stalin government as an operative, I think, of Trotsky. And if you know the history, of course, Trotsky fell afoul of Stalin and Stalin ended up going after Trotsky. This is a guy named C.G. Rakofsky, and if you're looking for this, it's called The Red Symphony. It's actually in the public domain, and it's in quite a few different works. I have a copy of it in a book. I don't agree with everything in this book, but it just happens to have a copy of this interrogation. It's called Fourth Reich of the Rich. And it's also about this principle of world socialism, fascism, communism, Marxism being supported by the wealthiest people in the West.
2:50:57 And this interrogation is fascinating because the Stalinists are interrogating this guy and then they come to find out this guy says, well, I'm actually working for very rich people in the West. And they're kind of taken aback by this. What do you mean? He says, well, there's a lot of powerful interests that I support, excuse me, that I'm actually working for. And they have a long term goal, he says, of world socialist technocratic control. And guess what? It's the same thing that comes up in this. So there seems to be this curious pattern of again, over and over and over again, this is a speculative and we don't know if that's for sure. But what we do know is that when we read people like Lockhart, the memoirs of a British agent, he was the liaison between
2:51:46 the elite imperial socialists who supported the Bolshevik. We find continually this pattern of supporting these kinds of movement. Now that doesn't mean everybody, right? Not everybody in the British power structure, for example, was party to this or knew this. people at the government level, they typically didn't know this. But it would be people in the establishment, in the spy establishment, in the security establishment, and these inner party people that Quigley describes, he calls them the inner party, the society of the elect. They knew this bigger plan, this bigger strategy, because they were not working for public officials. They were working for private interests, private families,
2:52:27 old money, banking families, nobility, etc. All a party to this inner structure. And this helps explain a lot of people get confused over how do we have people like Prince Bernard, who was an SS working with people at Bilderberg, World Economic Forum, etc. These people who were national socialists, that doesn't make sense with working with people from the West who are opposed to national socialism. We'll just look up Otto Skorsene, look up the Reinhardt Galen network and you'll find that at that level, it really doesn't matter what the ideologies are. At that level, it's a supra-ideological power structure. And they don't really care about the operating systems and the experiments in history. Those have come and gone. Now we're in a new phase where the war on terror has given way now to the next phase. Isn't it interesting, by the way, that you notice the war on terror just kind of went away?
2:53:21 Where did the Muslim terrorists just like conveniently and politely take a break from doing anything during the COVID? That was very nice of them to just take a nice little break from any sort of global terror. Now remember, we had post 9-11 years and years of war on terror and they said, didn't John McCain say, war on terror is never ending, it will never end, war on terror is forever. It's forever, 100 year war. That's been forgotten. Now we're in the war on viruses for a global health pandemic. You see how quickly the script changed? The invisible enemy, in fact, they even use the same terminology, the invisible enemy of terror, which we'll never, we can't see them, they're everywhere, it's invisible. We gotta track and trace everything to save you from terror. Now it's, we gotta track and trace everything to save you from the invisible enemy of the virus. It's the exact same propaganda just flipped to the new fabled enemy of the CUFID and the virus.
2:54:22 And really all of those ends were achieved in terms of the transition on a mass scale in those two years of lockdowns to move us into technocracy. Remember the lockstep document said, not in lockstep, but in one of the other, the green scenario, the smart scenario, is that there would be a transition to more and more automation and more and more of a green austerity agenda. This austerity agenda is the exact same agenda of British Malthusian policy. The idea that you have to shut down everything for the earth. Climate lockdowns, that's the new thing that they're gonna say. They are moving now into shutting down of the fuels. It's not even fossil fuels, it's not fossil. Fossil fuels, you actually think oil is ground up dinosaur bones? Come on, that's not what oil is. I don't know what oil is, but I know it's not that, that's dumb. Whatever it is, it's not killing the planet. That's all cover to shut down the economy.
2:55:22 And people don't understand that international supra corporate, supranational entities, what I'm talking about, this inner core of austerity people, World Economic Forum, they don't care about profit, not about making money. That's why these companies are enacting all these policies that don't make them money. They have a plan to destroy the existing order, destroy it from within. This is actually, that's part of military strategy to intentionally destroy your own thing at times so that you can have the justification to bring in the new thing. That's exactly what that guy from, I think the CDC said before the COVID. So we need to just blow up the existing medical system to bring in the new system. That's what this is.
2:56:05 There's an intended destruction of the economy to bring in the new system. What is the new system? Circular economy. You own nothing. You share your whitey-toddies with everybody else in your neighborhood. You don't get to buy gas to drive down the road because you hurt the planet. So right now, they're rolling out the very thing that they said. You will not drive cars. They said years ago they would start getting rid of cars. And it's nothing to do with the environment. It's everything to do with control and shutting down the existing system to bring in the technocratic control, which these socialist Bolshevik people said they wanted 100 years ago. And the socialist Bolshevik people work for the wealthiest people on the planet. That's the world that we live in now, and it was the same 100 years ago.