Top Russian Anti-NWO Thought Leader Discusses The Fight Against Globalism

00:00 We're living in an important moment of human history. Now, the initiative to change the world is once more in the hands of Americans, in the hands of Trump. Russia has made a kind of introduction to the change of world order in order to create multipolarity, but now everything, all All depends on United States of America, on President Trump. Because now he is in a position, he is capable to take the world and people of the world from globalism. Ladies and gentlemen, we're here in Austin, Texas, broadcasting worldwide. And our guest is joining us from Moscow, Russia, Alexander Dugin. The media says that he's a top advisor to Putin, but from my research,

01:13 I'd say it's more like when the media says that I'm telling Trump what to do. That's not really what's happening. We're just looking at the same picture, the same story, the same truth. We're reading from the same historical piece of music. But undoubtedly, Dr. Alexander Dugin is one of the leading people when it comes to rebirth in Russia and rediscovering the greatness of Russia and humanity itself and creating a pro-human system. Now, I've only read one of his books and I've read quite a few of his writings over the years and well aware of who he was even a decade ago, tried to get him on. But here he is now, I've been on one of his national TV shows that he has in Russia.

01:59 But you know there's so many bios out there, so many things the media says he said. I want him to spend a few minutes about himself first before we get into all these big huge topics. Because I will cover what the elite believe or I will cover what some other group believes and then I'll wake up in the morning and the newspaper will say Alex Jones believes XYZ and that's not true. So it's better to directly hear from someone telling you what they actually believe in and what he believes Putin believes in and the type of world system I'm trying to create versus what they're trying to create versus what the globalists are trying to create. And I noticed one of the topics he wanted to get into, we haven't talked beforehand, but he just gave us a few notes here, is post-globalism. Make no mistake, we are post this form of corporate global government. Now they may fight on for a while, but

02:51 It's not a boast to say, you can look at all the evidence, they are in major retreat. And I use the allegory or the analogy of 1945 Germany, a few months before the final fall. You know the Nazis are going to fall. The question is, how long will this go on? So we're long past the Stalingrad moment where you know they're going to lose, the globalists using that analogy, say for Nazis, because they're very similar to it. The problem is, what are they going to do to try to keep power? Well, Soros has doubled the amount of money for rioting. They're training people at universities now to go out and attack the public. They're planning something big. So we'll talk about it all in the next hour. And I'll try to just sit back and let our guest speak because he speaks English. So,

03:35 Doctor, thank you so much for coming on. Let's spend a few minutes just on you, what you really stand for, what you really believe, the big movements you've launched that admittedly have reinvigorated Russia and given it faith again in yourselves. The globalists want to suck that out of all of us. And then let's get into who you think Putin really is, who you think Trump is, and this new multipolar world. Thank you, Alex, for your kind presentation. I would express my ideas concerning what is going on in the world with a new agenda for the United States with Mr. Trump that I support with all my heart

04:21 And so what is going to be to happen with Russia and with Mr. President that I as well support with all my heart. And I think you have put the things very clearly. Dear Alex, because you have said exactly the truth about my relations with Putin, we defend the same position, we share the same concern. So, we are loving our people and I am making that on the level of ideas. And Mr. Putin is doing the same acts and steps in the great politics, but there is quite a correspondence between that.

05:15 And I agree, because when I'm seeing info wars and when I'm hearing what Alex Jones says, it is the same agenda, I hope, that Mr. Trump and Mr. President Trump share as well. And that meant the kind of not coincidence, that meant that unity of the same position, the sharing of the same values and the same ideas. So, that is quite clear. And we are blamed

05:54 Not because we are bad or pretend to be extremists. It is all a lie. Because, for example, in my book, Farth Political Theory, I am criticizing three political theories. Three. All three. I am against liberalism, against globalism. It goes first. against communism. I was always, because I was dissident in the Soviet time, because I didn't, I never shared the conventions of communism. I am traditionalist, I am Christian and I didn't accept this kind of values. I am anti-communist, but at the same time I am anti-Nazi, anti-Nazi, anti-anti-Nazi.

06:45 and anti-fascist, because I didn't share racism, nor brutal corporative state in the sense of statism. So, I'm always affirming the same thing. I belong to the fourth political theory. And when they try to present myself as a kind of extremist or communist or fascist, it is absolute lie. So it's- Sure, I've actually read your writing. You'll explore each avenue of those and show the problems of how they're all basically failed systems centralized. We have to go back to our primal natures, basically. I just know this, Trump wants justice and he doesn't want wars with countries that aren't getting in our business and attacking us. He can see the real world and see that an alliance with Russia

07:39 and with European countries and with the UK and with Japan and others against some of the other countries that are trying to expand and actually threatening people's way to go instead of globalists using America as a tool of world domination. That's why they're so mad at Trump. Can we speak specifically since you bring it up? the post-globalist world, where you think we are, but first, can you speak then, knowing Putin obviously, and seeing the distortions of the press, why Vladimir Putin is so popular in Russia and around the world, and what he really stands for? So, my introduction was important because I would like to stress that I am simply a realist, as well as you, Alex, as well as Mr. Trump and Mr. Putin. First of all, realism. Realism doesn't mean nationalism. Realism doesn't mean some ideology. Realism is considering the sovereignty of the

08:35 of the people, of the nation as the highest value. And that is completely anti-globalist agenda. Exactly, because Trump's a known realist. You're saying Trump's a realist, you're a realist, I'm a realist. We should celebrate sovereignty and nationalism and cultures and work together and not try to conquer each other. I mean, what you're saying is just common sense. There's been a sickness of this globalist attempt to conquer all cultures and destroy them. So this is a human right to resist this common enemy. Absolutely. And what is important in this sovereignty, national sovereignty, state sovereignty, is the form to defend identities.

09:15 The identities can be different. They could coincide or not coincide, but that doesn't necessarily mean war or conflict. We could accept the differences in a positive way. Americans and Russians are different. Europeans and Americans and Russians are different. the people of the other countries. And we shouldn't have to accept some global system, much less who programs what we're supposed to be. It's not just that we should all, quote, work together. They want us to give up our identity and then take something on. And when you study what we're taking on, it's cultural death. Absolutely. And globalists, they try to make a kind of pacifist dream

09:59 killing the country, killing differences. We need to affirm our identities and that is the way to understand each other. That is position of Putin as well. He is not imperialist, he is not fanatic, he has no idea to invade no country. In fact I notice how humble he is. He's always saying America is more powerful. Okay you're great, we just want our right to be here. And I think that now we are in the situation where there is not anymore a kind of hostility between our countries. I would say I was anti-Americanist, anti-American during the government of Obama, of Bush, not because I don't like Americans. I was in America once, in Washington, and I like America, I love America.

10:52 hey, the globalist agenda. And now... If America has been conquered by globalists, which we're starting to try to stop, then you have to rally your people through nationalism to defend yourselves. Yes, so now we understand everybody in Russia, now we understand that America was hijacked by a globalist sect and Trump is restoring American dignity. And we immediately to hate America, immediately, because that wasn't America that we hated before. It was globalist elite. And now we see that half and more, the majority of American population as well as against this globalist sect. And that makes globalism the problem of each country, each people. We are as well under attack of globalism.

11:39 of globalists, as well as you. And we need to be united, conserving our differences. And I think that real multipolarity could lead to cooperation, to the friendship between different countries and different people. But we need, absolutely, we need to fight our common enemy. And before we had a deal, we have deal with Mr. Soros, that tried overthrow our government, try to create a color revolution in our country. And by the way for new listeners and viewers because the media is gonna grab this and twist it

12:18 He brags on CNN he overthrew Ukraine. He brags he's trying to overthrow Russia. He brags he has hundreds of NGOs, non-governmental organizations doing it. That's so crazy. Then Trump says, no we're not going to do that. And they go, you traitor. But it's the very same foundations trying to overthrow America. This is a global disease and Russia threw off the oligarchs. that we're trying to throw off, that's the solidarity. And that's why the globalists hate Russia, they hate America, and Japan is hungry to throw off the oligarchs. Turkey, I know, you've been, in fact we should bring this up later, you've been instrumental reaching out to Turkey with a deal with Russia to bring your cultures together and not be played against each other. So I want to talk about the larger geopolitical view, where you think this is going, but absolutely

13:00 Looking at this, we have a clip from just last week of or this weekend of Nancy Pelosi saying she wants to know what Putin's got on Trump. Well, I want to tell her. Trump doesn't want war with people that haven't done anything, plus people that have nuclear weapons, plus he's been advised by top generals that made secret deals that are now public, Cy Hirsch exposed it years after we did, that we made deals to begin taking out radical Islamic jihadists out of Saudi Arabia together and countermanded the globalist plan four and a half years ago. So the beginning of the US revolts didn't start with Trump. It started in our military, in our Christian military, not wanting to openly back Al-Qaeda and ISIS. So that's the fissure, and then we started working with Russia.

13:44 We first reported it four and a half years ago. People didn't believe it. Now it's mainstream news. And so General Flynn and others are saying Russia wants to work with us. They're not a threat. Let's destroy the EU. It's unelected. It's evil. Let's free Europe. Let's have a bunch of trade. Let's get China under control. And let's actually have real peace. Now, we'll still have our militaries. We'll still have issues. I'm sure we'll still have problems, but we're not going to try to conquer Russia or vice versa. This is ridiculous. The globalists are attacking all our countries trying to make us all poor. Let's get them off our back. Then if we want to kill each other later, that's our own issue. The point is that globalists are the big enemy. So I want to get your take on what do they have? Let's talk to the guy they call Putin's brain. He's not. He's like, I'm not Trump's brain. We just believe the same things. So we're synced up here.

14:30 And so let's see what the top Democrat in Congress has to say, wanting an FBI investigation of the president. Yes, yes, we'll play that clip in a moment. Go ahead, sir. No, no, we're playing a moment. Go ahead, Alexander. So my idea is that you are absolutely right. Now you are facing, you are American, you are facing the same threat with Soros and the same NGO. So what was American, so-called American attack against us, now we are dealing with the same threat in your country. And I agree absolutely with you that

15:20 Russia, we need to understand that Russia is no more communist. We couldn't apply the old Cold War cliché, old Cold War models to understanding our new situation. Russia is traditional Christian country as well as America is, and radical Islam supported by globalists. is our common enemy. And I think that now what is important in Russia, that we are hearing the voice of the people who are dying for our freedom, of the military men, of the people who defend

16:00 our security and I think that that is very important for globalists. They are mad generals, mad militaries and so on but for us they are very very high appreciated persons and I think that that is very important to what the people of army says and because we are losing our guys fighting against radical Islam. I want to talk about that in a moment and we do have the Pelosi clip now. Sorry, I wasn't clear to throw to it. Here is the leading Democrat saying she wants to know what

16:38 Putin has on Trump. This is just ridiculous. Here it is. But let me just go back to the first part of the senator's statement. I want to know what the Russians have on Donald Trump. I think we have to have an investigation by the FBI into his financial, personal, and political connections to Russia, and we want to see his tax returns so we can have truce in the relationship between Putin, whom he admires, But I want to go back to the issue of Democrats... So let me say it again just so Pelosi understands. And again, this is Pelosi who's acting very, very senile more and more and just said yesterday that she believes that President Bush is being bad. You got some very evil people that have put some very senile, brain damaged, self-centered people, I don't mean that mean, in power because they don't know what they're doing. We also have one of the other top Democrats, Maxine Waters, saying Putin has invaded Korea and Trump is helping him. So you have to understand, folks, this is the same press conference. These are doddering

17:39 lunatics and I don't mean that mean it's very dangerous and It's got to be dealt with in our military is horrified because quite frankly they've been given orders to launch attacks on Russia Okay, that's where this craziness is gone and it's gotten to the point where the military saying no We're not committing suicide for the planet. But so so there's just a very spoiled evil hunchback force that we're trying to kick out of Europe in the United States right now. Not that Russia's perfect, but at least Russia is trying to pull itself free of this face-sucking succubus. So I want to get your take on that, Doctor, and then let's get to this next clip of Maxine Waters saying Putin invaded Korea. Go ahead. Sure, we'll go ahead and play Maxine Waters. Here she is.

18:23 He's responsible for supplying the bombs that killed innocent children and families in Aleppo. And the fact that he is wrapping his arms around Putin while Putin is continuing to advance into Korea I think that he is leading himself into that kind of position where folks will begin to ask what are we going to do and the answer? Event yeah overthrow the president so there's everywhere saying kill Trump. They're all over the newspapers and let's be clear Soros bragged on CNN for reads a car that he overthrew with the State Department Ukraine and tried to kill the Russians

19:10 Why he has this endless hatred of Russia, maybe you could explain. So anyone who's informed knows that Russia didn't invade Ukraine, but she can't even get it right. She says Korea. I mean, how do we deal with a leadership that is this rotten in the mind? I think that is a very good example of how globalists understand the world. For them, Korea or Ukraine or Syria or Aleppo is the same. It is completely pure illusion. It is virtual for them. And they send American people to die in the near east

19:53 As in a computer game, they have no responsibility at all for the people. They don't understand the history. They don't know geography. And they are speaking about Putin inviting Korea. That shows how deep their Their knowledge is about Russia, about Putin, how deep the understanding of geopolitical world of people, of geography. That is characteristic for globalists. huge lack of culture. That's right, lack of culture because they have no culture. They're trying to make us like them and I've studied Russia sometimes it's so interesting never been there unfortunately but Russia had so much land that was its problem. Russia was never expansionist, sold us Alaska, was a friend of ours in the Civil War until the globalists put

20:47 Put the communist, the proto-globalist, out of New York and out of London admittedly, put the communist in to take over your country and exploit it with the same social justice warrior brainwashing America's now going under. Yes, exactly. I think that we need to make our strategy educational one. Because if we only with very incompetent people, with very stupid audience, the globalist thesis, the globalist speeches could reach their goal. And now Americans

21:28 shown that they are not such idiots as globalists think they are. And Americans have chosen what they wanted, what they think to be real response of their problems. And now globalists Alexander Dugan, doctors stay there. We're gonna come back. This is powerful information. How do we stop the globalists? They're in trouble. But how do we truly make it the end of globalism, post globalism, straight ahead with a lot of key points. And we're gonna open the phones up as well for your question for the man they call Putin's brain. We'll be right back. I'm Alex Jones. Everybody knows I don't promote violence. That's why I don't want senseless war.

22:11 But radical Islam is really orthodox Wahhabism has been funded for decades by the robber barons, by the globalists and they've openly flooded Europe with five million. Eastern Europe has an instinct to survive because they dealt with the jihad. The crusade was a response to defeat that with both the Orthodox and the Catholic Church battling it. And that's our shared ancestry and history with Russia. And the globalists see any strong sovereign nation as an enemy, especially a Christian nation. I've talked to top Hollywood producers. I mean bigger than Chris Carter.

22:48 I was just out in Los Angeles and they said no, it's true. It's totally anti-christian. There is like a satanic hate of Russia and of the Christian Church in America. And now they've got this new Pope that's, that is definitely anti-christ. I don't mean the anti-christ, but is an anti-christian spirit. Says Europe, how, he goes, I get sick at my stomach when I hear about Europe being Christian. Buddy, You say that from behind 100-foot walls while you open the borders up with people that are constantly killing each other in their own countries. There are lots of Muslims that aren't radicals, but the Wahhabis call them heretics. And they are now coming against everybody, and they are the shock troops of this thing. And they're saying Trump can't even execute a law that's already on the books to say that if you're coming from Somalia, a failed state, that there's no proper IDs until we have a system set up that proves they are who they say they are.

23:42 Until they quit using fake IDs, we're going to block them? That's something every president's done. But now the courts, the media, the Republicans, the Democrats, they all come against him. Alexander Dugin, author, researcher, launched much of the nationalist or sovereignty movements in Russia. I mean, just an absolute rock star in his own country, demonized and misrepresented here, obviously, in the United States. And I obviously haven't read all his writings. I don't agree with all of them or disagree. The point is, Is there saying the Kremlin's candidate and they're going on to say that Larry King is a Russian agent and Schultz is and Jesse Ventura and they go on and some of these things to say I am I mean that's ridiculous I mean during the Cold War my family was fighting the Russians Okay, it's pure absolute malarkey because they were under communism But again, it was a manipulation Trump knows because he sat at the feet of the top advisor to this is just a history lesson for folks to Joseph McCarthy

24:44 And McCarthy finally went, it's not the Russians, there's an evil global group manipulating both sides. We've got to stop it. And that's when they shut him down. Trump was given all that info when he was like 25 years old. You can actually dig and find New York Times articles about it, about Roy Cohn and all the rest of it. So Trump's got the big picture. So when he was told all this by top generals, they asked him to run a year before the election. They said, sir, you're the man. We know you know all this. And he did it. He did it and he won. This was a military and intelligence coup with the American people. The revolution here was American. How dare the media act like we couldn't do this ourselves and the Russians did it? Of course the Russians cheered it on as they watched the globalists in Europe.

25:25 The Vatican, the Saudi Arabians, the communist Chinese, not the Chinese people but their leadership, all gang up on us and try to stop us getting free like Russia did. But here's the difference. Putin took him a decade to get Russia quasi-free. Trump has been in 17 days and they're already trying to kill him so I want to speak about the end of globalism or what happens if they killed from just all the key points that you want to impart to folks about Putin's concerns when you talk to him where you guys see this going Just all the different angles to this but it look we've come this far with them already when you start a war in 2008 and last year So thank God we've backed the clock the doomsday clock back. I think a few minutes Alexander go ahead

26:09 Yes, I agree once more with you that now we need to think about the future. First of all, globalists remind me of black periods of my own history, of Soviet history. The lie is a Stalinist type of lie, it is communist, Stalinist type of lie. It is completely, they try to impose their understanding of the things. They ignore the position of the other. And our fight together for the future world should be based on this defense and affirmation of

26:55 identity, cultural, religious, spiritual. And we Russians, we want nothing more. We don't want occupy, invade anybody. We need to secure our borders. We need to create our country safe, morally safe. And that's all. That's all. But we are under constant We are not any more communists, we have overthrown communists. We are trying to create Christian, normal Russian society, accepting and respecting the minorities. And we are demonized precisely because it works, because we could stand the blows from the

27:40 And now America is a little bit in the same situation. And when they say, globalists, they say that Putin has helped Trump is a lie in the way they try to explore that, all this stupid histories about the hackers and so on and so on. Putin really has Trump showing the example how to defend the realist values. How to defend... Exactly! The way he did it was by leadership and openly putting the ideas out like you've done and I've done and our ideas defeat globalism because it's about being soulless and if we just stand up they can't beat us so Russia is the example of

28:28 of pulling out of globalism first, and I salute you for that. And now all over the world, from Brexit to Italy to everywhere, to Iceland, everybody's pulling out, and they keep saying Russia did it, Russia did it. It's not true that Russia manipulated it, but Russia did lead by example. Absolutely. And I think now the situation is a little bit changed. Very interesting. We're living in an important moment of human history. Now the initiative to change the world is once more in the hands of Americans, in the hands of Trump. Russia has made a kind of introduction to the change of world order in order to create multipolarity. But now everything, all

29:14 All depends on United States of America, on President Trump, because now he is in a position, he is capable to the world and people of the world from globalism. And he has begun this real spiritual fight. It's not only political fight, it is not only technical or material fight, it is spiritual fight. It is a kind of, and now America is a kind of leader in this war after Brexit and after Trump presidential election that is a turning point

28:28 of pulling out of globalism first, and I salute you for that. And now all over the world, from Brexit to Italy to everywhere, to Iceland, everybody's pulling out, and they keep saying Russia did it, Russia did it. It's not true that Russia manipulated it, but Russia did lead by example. Absolutely. And I think now the situation is a little bit changed. Very interesting. We're living in an important moment of human history. Now the initiative to change the world is once more in the hands of Americans, in the hands of Trump. Russia has made a kind of introduction to the change of world order in order to create multipolarity. But now everything, all

29:14 All depends on United States of America, on President Trump, because now he is in a position, he is capable to the world and people of the world from globalism. And he has begun this real spiritual fight. It's not only political fight, it is not only technical or material fight, it is spiritual fight. It is a kind of, and now America is a kind of leader in this war after Brexit and after Trump presidential election that is a turning point

29:49 of the history. I think now the initiative has passed to you and now you need to make all the efforts because you are in the best situation that you are the first power in the world. And now we are very proud about that. Yesterday, in Obama's time, in the Clinton, possible Clinton perspective, that was a doom for us that you are first. And now it is hope for hope for us that we are first power in the world and I think you need to concentrate on the vision of the future because in America there are so many examples of

30:32 of real greatness before this globalist turn in the last decades. Absolutely, and Alexander, let me just add this for the listeners. What's the best website? We have several here for people to visit, to learn more. Tell us about some of your books so people can actually read what you've said instead of what the media says. What are some of the best websites for people to visit of yours? I think maybe 4pt.com, It is Fourth Political Theory. There are many texts in English or katakom.com where we are publishing our English text. As well in America, they have published some of my books concerning Fourth Political Theory, the book on Heidegger and the book of Putin's geopolitics.

31:29 and there are many other books that are not translated. I suggest to people to try to search something in order to understand better my ideas. And when they read my books, maybe they will oppose some points or debate some points, but what is important, we need to think We need to think differently. We need to try to open new perspectives to conservative understanding. The conservatism is a kind of lie. It is not repetition of the same truths from the past. No, exactly. It's always having to learn from the past but codify and celebrate men and women together, families, honor, men being strong, people telling the truth, production, lifting society up, not dominating the weak, basically nobility.

32:19 Yes, exactly. the roots of the tree are always growing as well. So tradition is changing as well. And conservative demands a kind of imagination, a kind of view for the future. Exactly, because fake liberalism is an attempt to take over the human species. Conservatism is actually the compendium of everything, because what is to conserve? It is just that we are conserving what is good, but we are actually the future. The left claims they are progressive, but only progressive like a cancer. Absolutely, absolutely. You are quite right. Cancer is the right name for globalization. They try to repeat the same model, the same gender politics, the same hyper-individualistic attitudes towards human nature. And they destroy the differences, they destroy the richness of the human life,

33:12 Absolutely, I mean they're at war with language people being individuals. Let me just throw the number off to take a few calls I forgot to do that. I apologize 800-259-9231 800-259-9231 quick questions for our guests and again ladies and gentlemen, I just want to point something out. I'm not an intelligence agency I organically built InfoWars and you know did this just off of Americana and and the list are supporting us and But obviously over the years as we've grown, I mean we know generals and colonels and CIA people and a lot of famous folks a lot of undercover people. Let me just tell you almost the entire CIA NSA the branches of the military know what happened to Russia They now know about all the secret documents about the globalists the proto globalists sent over to take over Russia It was not expansionist to use Russia as this engine to take over how that stalled and failed how Russia's reconstituting they've got a few people in intelligence agencies that

34:08 still want to have war with Russia. They believe that's the global domination model and that, you know, they need to prove that Trump's not a Russian agent by going after Russia. Believe me, if Russia does anything or pulls anything with Trump, it's not going to, it's going to be, it's going to be quick action. But Trump knows that Russia is not, doesn't want to do that. Trump understands with all the top generals advising him, not because they're Russian agents, these generals like, like Madison, others are historians and they read my work, their own research. They read the doctor's work. They know Okay, they now know the big plan. They're trying to free humanity. This is actually a good group. There's not just evil in the world. So we're in a very, very epic historic time. You talk about swamp, the concept of the swamp, Putin as Trump and the bipolar system. Let's talk more about that and then take some phone calls.

35:00 The swamp appears to be a kind of word used only for the electoral campaign in the United States, but the sense, the meaning of this new political concept is much deeper. And it is quite right word, swamp, because the swamp is the same as globalist system. It is anti-national. tries to destroy, to penetrate any country. Exactly, it's a blob, you don't know who runs it, it's secret, it's dark. Everything Trump does now, you notice, is out in the light. He shows it all.

35:36 Absolutely. And it could operate only in secret. They try to impose their agenda notwithstanding their acceptance or rejection of the people of the societies. The swamp is absolutely anti-democratic. It is anti-people. And now the swamp has find the world to attack, accuse us. as populists. So now they understand that they could not use anymore the term as fascists or communists because that is too ridiculous after all this repetition during the Trump's campaign. And now they have found the word populism and they accuse us to be populists.

36:28 is against populism. But the populist is the man, the person who defend his own people. Exactly. They're calling us populist like it's dirty. Isn't that good? Yeah, absolutely. I could... Populist means the people. Why? You're for the people. I mean, that's how deluded and disconnected they are. And what I can't believe is we were ever conquered by scum like this. Because I guess we don't think evil. We don't think like they do. I don't think about screwing people over because I'm strong. I have too much honor. But it is really true. We have really been conquered by a bunch of jokes, which really is our fault now if we know this, if we let them keep dominating.

37:07 Now, their nature is clear. When they begin to call us populists, to accuse us to be populists, they show their real nature. They hate people. They are completely anti-democratic. They are against Americans, Russians, against as well against Israel, Israeli or Jews because they try to destroy any sovereign country. Exactly, let's go further. It comes out in the WikiLeaks that George Soros on the left wants to overthrow Israel. Whether you love Israel or hate it, Israel's done some bad things, some good things. They want to overthrow it too. They're Jacobins, they're Illuminists. And I want to tell you something because they claim you say this and I'll skip the breaks, we have more time and then take some calls, it's so important. I grew up

37:52 And I'm related to the Puritans, folks like that. And they were, Francis Bacon, trying to set up a new Atlantis. But they thought it'd be a new Atlantis of freedom, a new Renaissance, a good thing. I understand your earlier writing saying it's the land-based old human Russia versus this new liberalism of the Atlanteans. But all I'm saying is, for me in research, it's actually the people that want to set up new freedoms that are the classic liberals versus the new cancerous Jacobin false 1776. French Revolution is the counterfeit of the new Atlantis versus George Washington and the real Atlantis. He countered the Jacobins and his writings sound like your writings. So maybe the media took you out of context or maybe you're right and I'm wrong, but just

38:35 Knowing that I was basically brought up, it wasn't like a cult or anything, but we're building the new great world to empower the whole planet. That's America's secret destiny. Because I had a lot of family that helped found Texas and other places. It was just known this is what we do. And we don't want war, we want to fight evil. We want to free the oppressed. So talk about your theory of the Atlantean civilization versus the Russian land-based civilization because hell, Russia as you know was pretty much founded by water-based Vikings to a great extent. So I guess, I mean, wouldn't you argue at the end that Russia itself is an Atlantean creation? So first of all- Oh just one favor, your thing's a little, I'm loud too, because I'm excited like you. Just because there's a little bit of reverb that got worse, just don't talk too loud so we can hear you sir, go ahead.

39:22 Okay, that is not a Russian invention, the idea of Atlanticism and Eurasianism. It is a British concept of Mr. Francis Bacon, the speaker of Mackinder's pigment and American tradition of geopolitics. And they made identification between Western society as Atlantis liberal society and Eastern society as a society that is based on the collective values. So that was more or less so. But

40:08 But at the same time, it is geopolitics. the West act with such concept, we are obliged to counterpose, to oppose to that Atlanticist concept and this imperialism or colonialism of the West, our Eurasian response. But now we are going to the new stage of geopolitics. Now, real terms of opposition in geopolitics are the geopolitics of this war against the geopolitics of the people. And we need to revise a little bit this geopolitical vision, because it is completely authentic. It fits absolutely when we have

40:57 We're dealing with globalist agenda as a kind of... Sure, absolutely. No, but I get your point that the kind of the New Atlantis idea could merge with the British Empire and then end up taking over the world and then say merge it all together. So it kind of is the proto-globalism is what you're saying. Yes, absolutely, absolutely. Britain's vision of the world was the root of globalization. And the United States of America, they opposed to this Britain domination. They opposed, you have opposed. No, they were. And of course, the Russian czars, I'm not saying they were perfect, but they were opposed to it too. And that's why they were basically taken out.

41:40 Absolutely. And that is why we were friends with America, because we opposed this globalist agenda and we affirmed the liberty, the freedom for each society to construct, to create, to build their own civilization. Let me ask you a question. Would it have been better, because obviously World War II the Nazis were bad, but if you look at World War I, the British did basically start that. Russia helped defeat the Germans and then got betrayed. Would it have been better for history if Russia wouldn't have come in on the side of England? I think that it is difficult to revise historical aspects, but what is important is that after the Second World War, there began a Cold War based on this geopolitical attitude. The United States of America was a kind of

42:34 a special power, a very special power that served very much for the balance of the world. They began to turn into the new instrument of globalists, the new instrument. Absolutely, I mean there's no doubt the globalists brag. I'm gonna go to some phone calls sir and then I gotta go at five after, we do a few extra minutes in the next hour, that'd be great to finish calls, so I wanna go to them. But clearly the globalists I try to study what they come out of, but it's just an amalgamation of people that stand for nothing but raw power and then they see any culture or any honor as a threat to them because they're dishonor.

43:13 They cannot coexist with any form of goodness. They truly are evil. I don't just demonize my enemy out of hand. It took me decades to come to grips with the fact that we truly face organized evil and its operating system and its destination is evil. And so that's why it's so scared and I believe it is being rounded in your gut. Do you think we're gonna defeat this system and what tribulations are we gonna go through? Then we're gonna go to some phone calls. Absolutely, you are completely right. What is important with Trump, Trump now is changing this course, this direction of 100 years, of last 100 years of American, Atlanticist, British imperialist tradition. There were very good periods in the last century for America, but America as I said,

44:07 Buchanan, Buchanan, America has won the world but has lost itself and that is very tragic. So America stopped to be real America and became instrument for globalist international, international. That's right, and so we're seeing the rebirth of America just as we're seeing a rebirth of Russia and a rebirth of nation states everywhere and that's what horrifies them is the sleeper is awakening. Absolutely. You're completely right. I think now that the most important mission in the global sense now is in the hands of Donald Trump, because he has changed already

44:51 the direction of... No, I agree. So what do you think of him working so far? I mean, he is executing every promise he said he would. And when they ask him to attack Putin, when Putin's done nothing to him, he refuses to do it. He refuses to be bullied into it. And so they're trying to organize Trump's death right now. Can you speak to that? Yes, but I think that Trump is completely wrong to consider Trump to be a kind of pro-Russian or pro-Putin. It is not so. He is pro-American. He is a patriot. He is working only for the interest for his own country, for your country. And that is why he is very close to Putin, because Putin makes exactly the same

45:37 And that's what Trump said. He said I like Putin because he stands up for his country. I'm gonna do the same thing He says Putin's a model and they get so mad at that Putin's beat the globalist Trump wants to beat him Why shouldn't he be a model? Absolutely. And at the same time I think that for Trump and Putin our national interests are first more important than anything else. And that is why realists with realists could agree. For example, there are so many things that divided Russia and Turkey, and we were on the edge of the new war, and globalists tried to involve us in this war. And when I have discovered that with my Turkish friends and Russian friends, we tried to stop

46:27 this agenda. You did, you did. In fact, you're credited with that. Amazing. I want to do five more minutes, take just a few calls here, but just in closing, looking at this, the average American, I mean, the polls are even better than you see, does not want war with Russia. They see through it. They're sick of it. I'm just really concerned about curveballs, sneak attacks, just in the last 30 seconds before we go to break. What tricks do you think the globalists have, though, to try to stop this? So I think that globalists now they have changed their their pool before they were in the United States. Now they are more in Europe. And I think that now French elections with Marine Le Pen and beyond and the other

47:17 That's right. They're trying to stop nationalist victories everywhere, populist victories. They're trying to stop the people everywhere. We'll be back in 70 seconds. Final segment with Alexander Dugan. Stay with us. Coming to you from the former United States of America, deep in the heart of Texas, it's Alex Jones. I hear people talking right about the way we have to live here in this country. I'm going to have to get rid of that line or soon. We're taking America back. from globalists. And I don't mind them switching sides. But man, when you run down my country... Walking on the fighting side, they say countries themselves are bad. The president wanted to have a border as bad. This has been an amazing interview, a little bit echoey.

48:12 With our guests, but I want to get him back up sometime. I'm gonna mail him an external mic But to Alexander Duggan is our guest dr. Alexander Duggan is our guest they say he's the brain of Putin obviously That's not true, but he is an advisor to him. What an amazing time. He's give us we're very very thankful I didn't get to a lot of these calls. I apologize. Let's go to a few right now Let's talk to Hans in Pennsylvania Hans you're on the air with our guests go ahead Yes, good afternoon I'm The major obstacle to the globalists in taking over America has been the American citizens' right to keep and bear arms. A good example of the opposite of that is the globalists disarming the countries of Europe.

48:55 Now that the Muslims have invaded Europe, the men don't even have any means of defending their women or their children and the Muslims are running wild. And I was wondering if Mr. Putin would consider arming his citizens as well as a defense. That's right. Putin's now doing pro-family stuff, pro-Christian stuff. And I've heard some of the gun laws have been loosened up. What about that, Alexander? I agree that an American tradition to have arms represents a kind of real dignity of the man. So I am supporting this tradition. It's a very good tradition, a very democratic tradition. Sure, free people are armed. So what about Russia?

49:46 Yes, you could defend not only your dignity, your family, your tradition, your religion, but as well you could defend democracy. And that is very important. That is why globalists are against this. They try to unarm American people. But we have different understanding of identity. It is not in our tradition to have arms, much more in our tradition to have a powerful state with spiritual leader, defending traditional values. It is our arm, it's a little bit different. And I think that in Russia, the real success of Putin is precisely reside in the fact

50:35 that he loves his own people. He loves Russia. He gives them a culture, he makes them feel good again. Great point. Thank you so much, Hans. Jesse, real quick from Texas. Go ahead, Jesse. You're on the air. Okay. Hi, I just wanted to know if now that we have a new administration that's anti-globalist and you think it's going to be possible for Mr. Trump and Mr. Putin to work together and actually form a US-Russian relationship unlike any we've ever seen before. That's a great question. When is this rumored Rakivac meeting going to happen? Alexander, have you heard anything about when the two leaders are going to meet?

51:13 that now the relations are already much better, already, and we feel that anti-Americanism has vanished in our country. And that is very important because Putin hears what the people think and he understands that. And in our relations now from Russian There is the end of anti-Americanism that was very, very high. And I think our leaders could make the world, the humanity great again. Sure, let's be clear Russia could use this, hey outsiders are against us as a way to control people. But Russia has been very nice about seeing Trump's position and trying to make good relations. Alexander, thank you so much for the time. Hope you'll come back again soon. I'll come back on your show anytime you'd like. Thank you so much and have a great week. Best wishes to all American friends.

52:10 All right, absolutely. America first, Russia first. Nations for nations, nations for their people. A revolutionary idea instead of globalist enslavement. We'll be back with our next guest. Stay with us, I'm Alex Jones. So joining us about 45 after is Alexander Dugin. He's a best-selling author, researcher. Started one of the most influential political parties in Russia and he wrote the best-selling book, The Fourth Political Theory. Geopolitical.ru or 4pt.su and he joins us. I really appreciate him joining us today to talk about all this and to understand why does Hollywood hate Russia so much and hate America? I've talked to top Hollywood producers, they say it's a hatred of Christians and why naturally do we see as I had

53:02 Sipochenko a few days ago, an alliance between the United States and Russia would be common sense in the world today. The resources, the Christian culture, the rise, about to be 3 billion Muslims in just a decade. We're at 1.5 right now. The globalists have allied with the most radical forms. You can see the math of where this is going. So we should naturally be allied, but that's not what they want. They want to make Russia the number one enemy. They want to paralyzed the president, where if he doesn't accept all these Soros operations to destabilize and overthrow countries around Russia and in Russia, that he's a Russian agent. He can't even go to dinner at the G20 and sit 30 feet from Putin and wave at him.

53:47 They go, oh my gosh, you waved at him at another secret meeting at a G20 meeting. This is crazy. Now the public isn't buying it in polls, but the deep state doesn't care. They're using it as the excuse to prepare a COG overthrow. Ladies and gentlemen, this is a dangerous, dangerous time. And Trump warns this new low is dangerous for the whole planet. we need Russia to deal with North Korea and so much more. So Alexander, thank you so much for joining us. Alexander Dugan, geopolitical.ru. You've got the floor my friend. Let's go through who the Globalist are, what their aims are, why they hate the United States and Russia so much, and is there any way to stop them before they trigger World War III?

54:31 Hi Alex, I'm really happy to be broadcasted in the United States because I think that your station and your channel and your heroic struggle is a unique possibility, unique momentum to say the truth that nobody wants to hear. And first of all, I think that globalists need enemy, but not the right enemy, because the right enemy of globalists are they themselves.

55:09 Because they are going to destroy humanity, to exchange humankind by artificial intelligence, by a kind of cyborgs. and they try to destroy all kind of links of the humanity with its essence. And that is an essence that is the very, very negative, absolutely negative satanic plan. And they need in order to keep attention elsewhere, they need some enemy and they have designated Russia as enemy number one.

55:50 It helps them to deplace attention from the real crimes they commit. And in the case of Trump, that is trying to reaffirm, reassert America, to regain its almost lost popularity and the greatness, restored greatness, they try to intimidate him by completely false accusation and hoaxes of Russian intervention in its

56:26 So, the globalists, they try to control everybody. They want to divide the people and the countries, not because some of countries or regimes are wrong or commit some horrible acts, but because in the agenda of globalists they should be exposed as such because they serve for their creation of global world government. And Russia plays here the role of of the image of the enemy, of global enemy. Our president is very democratic and very reasonable, very...

57:12 very realistic, pragmatic leader. But he refuses globalization, he refuses world government, he tries to defend, to affirm, to conserve and reaffirm and strengthen Russian sovereignty. That's all. And that is why they hate us and they try to use Russia against Trump in order to limit his liberty, to limit his freedom. That was the strategy used before the election.

57:51 And now President Trump, he is obliged to say I have nothing to do with Russia, I didn't mean that thing, meeting Putin and so on. That is idea to deprive American president of its freedom and liberty to create independent and sovereign politics of his own country. Absolutely. Alexander Dugin is our guest. He's one of the top.

58:27 cultural leaders with the resurgence of Russia really to its roots from researching I mean I would even say pre- czarist basically Christian European Western slash Eastern roots coming together and the globalists are absolutely insanely hateful of Russia and I've done an analysis of Putin he's been reforming He's been cutting back the corruption. He's been arresting the oligarchs. He's been empowering programs for the family. He's been promoting Christianity. He's been promoting sovereignty and he's been exposing through national shows

59:05 not against technology, but how technology is being used to enslave people by the technocrats and has been opposing the wicked plan of Davos that is anti-American, anti-Russian, anti-human. And quite frankly, now we see more of this from Trump, but this isn't like something he got from Putin or he got from me. This is the truth. What we face so let's talk about Vladimir Putin himself and why the globalists hate him. They're also obsessed with him It's leaked that I mean Hillary's obsessed with him basically in love with him in in the wiki leaks. He was just beside herself Megan Kelly behind the scenes began it was shuddering with sexual pleasure basically whenever I'm serious when she talked about Putin I mean, why are they so obsessed with Putin?

59:51 So I think that Putin, he plays the role of supporter. We in Russian Christian Orthodoxy have idea of Greek concept of supporter, in Greek katechon, some figure, symbolical figure. You're talking about an icon that's a defender? Yes, defender. Defender, exactly. In Greek that means exactly supporter, but defender, that is the right word. And this defender is the last obstacle of coming of Antichrist that doesn't let Antichrist

1:00:35 regime to be installed on the planetary level. And Putin is an obstacle for globalization, for fulfillment of the wicked plans of globalists. And by the way, I agree with you and they say their technocracy, their one world government that Putin's in the way. Now Trump pops up and the only truth to American-Russian collusion is I sense the same spirit of humanity not wanting to be enslaved and this really the spirit of Christ all over the world is rising up against this anti-Christ spirit. Exactly, exactly. That is a metaphysical battle, not only political manipulation. And Trump represents more or less the same line. He has no contacts with Putin. He has no collusions with Russia. More than that,

1:01:30 But metaphysically, they see the force trying to destroy and enslave and turn us over to radical Islam. And so metaphysically, the enemy sees them as the same because it is the same spirit. Yes, and that is the truth in all that, because they are more or less on the same side of the battle. But this battle is not political, that has nothing to do with short or superficial interests, national interests and so on. The battle is much deeper than that. And Putin plays here the role of defender, defender of

1:02:10 Christian civilization of traditional society, the defender of human nature because it, the globalists try now to replay this nature but they're... They wage war against common sense. Yes, yes, exactly. And what is important, I have got information that Russian oligarchs, they have a kind of supported financially Hillary. So that was completely opposite to the thing the globalists pretend. Russia in material world, economically, financially... You are still infested by the same globalists we are.

1:02:55 Yes, yes, exactly. We have as well Russian swamp and this swamp has helped to Hillary to win and that was the failure. But on the spiritual level, on the metaphysical level, we all of us, Russian people and our president, myself, we were on the side of Trump. But that was purely In the world of ideas, technically, Russian oligarchs much more supported and subventioned Hillary. And that is the paradox. They accused Trump to be manipulated by Russia in the situation when themselves they were supported financially by Russian oligarchs.

1:03:42 that represent the same globalist network as in the United States. So now I think they try to put the conflict between our great nations in order to to create a kind of struggle, a kind of fight against the false goal, in the false scenario. Now we should be united in order to fight against globalist elite that tries to manipulate Russians as well as Americans. We are completely, our peoples are on the same side of the front line and the globalists

1:04:23 that will signify the end for their plans. They try to divide us. I know you started a very popular nationalist movement decades ago, but the media sometimes can twist things. But I remember seeing reports five, ten years ago that you were kind of a spiritual advisor to Trump. I mean not to Trump, to Putin, that he'd read your books and thought that they were interesting. I just want to try to get an idea, first of all, that actually knows Putin but also lives in Russia, about the real mindset of Putin. Because people say, oh, he's this former KGB guy or whatever. But we know he was there during the reforms, kicking a lot of the globalist oligarchs out, getting your sovereignty back, the proofs in the pudding. Separately, I read that

1:05:08 He was baptized as a child. His family was part of the large Russian movement that was crypto-Christian, that kept the faith and continued on. And you judge a tree by its fruits. Today, he's been a huge supporter of bringing orthodoxy back to Russia and bringing the birth rate back up and proving he wants life. Fighting against all the abortions, fighting against the destruction of the family. That's what Putin's doing, not killing babies like the globalists are pushing. So I mean how true is it that you're a high level advisor to Putin? I know you don't want to brag about it and specifically a spiritual advisor and can you give us a view into the mindset of Vladimir Putin and his worldview?

1:05:49 First of all, Vladimir Putin has his own worldview that is not so much ideological. It is the kind he represents more or less what Russian people think. He represents Russian soul. He is not so much ideologically following some special kind of theory, but he is inclined naturally for conservative vision. He's a Christian. He is very proud of Russian history. He feels himself, first of all, Russian. That is very important because that means that he doesn't feel himself globalist.

1:06:38 He doesn't feel himself a kind of cosmopolitan. He represents our culture, our people, and he doesn't stop these feelings, this emotion in our country. He is not ideological nationalist. He is rather realist and pragmatic in his politics. He is very pragmatical, very rational, I would say, rational man, but he is Russian, and that defines his inner and deep identity. And that is exactly the same way Trump is. So it's a return to common sense, a return to cultural nationalist with a Christian base.

1:07:22 Yes, so that is the real similarity between him and Trump. Putin could be considered to be Russian Trump as well as Trump could be considered American Putin. Not because they are accused of authoritarian rule or something like that. They are individually very different, but they reflect what our people want. They're not out to get their country. They have a sense of roots to the nation, to the culture. They're not soulless globalists who notice, never have children, are totally about destroying anything independent, anything family, because they're satanic. Trump and Putin, you're saying, are not satanic.

1:08:05 Absolutely, because now to be normal, to be natural, that represents a kind of challenge, that represents a kind of heroic act, because globalists, they control mass media, global media, global economical corporation. They try to impose on the humanity, not only on Russian people or American people, on the humanity. They try to impose their own agenda, their values that have nothing to do with normal Christian traditional human values. That is completely postmodern black strategy to destroy humanity, replace it by some other species. So they use

1:08:55 in that all kinds of radical movements, for example, they use not only far left groups as Soros does, but as well radical jihadist groups. They try, they create the false goals. They try to oppose the people and nations, but their goal is against normality. And people and Trump, They are normal. They represent not ideological, special ideological circles or special world vision. They represent the peoples. And that's very important. They could be called populists.

1:09:33 but populist in the positive way because populist is the person that reflects what the people wants when the majority of the people. Exactly, they're not elitist trying to change the programming of humanity, God's system and play God. They are living in it and are part of it and so that's why this artificial synthetic world government, transhumanist movement has openly declared war on men and women. They're teaching in America in schools don't have men and women. It's hurtful to others. They are in open warfare saying humanity's ugly, that they're gonna replace us. When we come back, I wanna get into your book. I wanna get into the subjects you wanna cover with the American people.

1:10:16 And also get your take on what is it like to watch what they're doing to Trump? Because Putin rightfully said there is a war against Trump by the deep state. It is going into high gear. They are publicly on TV saying they're getting ready to kill him. Which is meaning they're normalizing it so there's not riots. If they do kill Trump, I mean, the sky's the limit. Clearly they're planning a war with Russia. It is just beyond psychotic. Meanwhile, you've got them blaming Russia for North Korea when it's the Clintons that gave the missiles and the reactors to North Korea. We're going to talk about it all with Alexander Dugin of geopolitical.ru, one of Putin's advisors. Straight ahead, I'm Alex Jones, and we are defending life. Stay with us.

1:10:59 Now going back to our guest and I want to invite him back up on a monthly basis if you'd like to join us Alexander Dugin, advisor to President Putin over in Russia, best-selling author, leader of a nationalist party that's been growing the last few decades, somebody hated by MSM, I don't want to say he's like the Alex Jones over in Russia, but the media is always attacking Putin kind of through him saying, look what Alexander said. And then of course misrepresenting and look, you know, this is the crazy advisor to Putin. Kind of the same thing they do to Trump. Just knowing that Dugin represents a big base of smart, informed Russians

1:11:40 that know what's happening and have a nationalist global view in understanding the real threat. So it's not that we're plagiarizing each other, that we're saying similar things. He wrote a lot of this 30 years ago. I wasn't familiar with his work until about 10 years ago. It's that we're seeing the same thing. We're seeing the same thing. So, Alexander, you've got the floor for the next 10 minutes. Let's roll through your book, The Fourth Political Turning, that's been translated into English and many other languages. And any other predictions or advice for President Trump and his supporters? So, I think that fourth political theory, it is something that is beyond

1:12:21 liberalism, communism and fascism. So my idea when I have started to develop this political theory is precisely that liberalism, communism and fascism are not enough. We need to search for a different approach in order to resolve the crises, in order to oppose globalism. Because globalization is a kind of very special ideology that tries to to cut all links of human individual with collective identity, with church, with nation, with people, with ethnic, with tradition, and with gender as well. The gender politics is the now actual weapon of the same globalist

1:13:20 ultra-liberalist theory. But when we start to create, to oppose to liberalism, we are falling into the trap. We are either going to communism, that is false completely because it's the branch of the same roots, or we are embracing the kind of nationalism or fascism. That is as well the wrong way. So, and globalists, they use this attitude because they accuse everybody who is against them to be either communist or nationalist or fascist or communist. So in order to answer to this,

1:14:09 attack, ideological attack of liberals and globalists. I was, my friend, French philosopher Alain de Benoist, the leader of New Right, so-called New Right movement in Europe, we have elaborated fourth political theory that is against liberalism, against globalization, first of all, and that is, it is essence, the most important core of this fourth political theory. But at the same time, we,

1:14:44 We refuse being qualified as communist or fascist or to be communist. Reading your book, isn't it traditionalist, common sense, pro-human, being what we are and transcending all the fake political labels they use to confuse people? More or less. But what is important now, the battle is between the natural human being and artificial creations of the modern Europe. That is exactly the devil plan to destroy the human essence of humanity and replace the humanity by cyborgs, by artificial

1:15:28 intelligence and so on. But in order to bring the robots in our life, they turn the humans into the robots. And that is why they try to cut any kind of links and ties with the normal human traditions, with the religious world vision, with normal gender, sexist and all kinds of what makes us human. Because we are human because we belong to some community, traditional community, organic historical community. So, and when the liberals, they try to cut

1:16:17 all these ties and after that because the humans will be already robots or completely identical with robots, they could be easily replaced by natural. Exactly, they're preparing us in their own words. to interface with a system that's designed to destroy us, but they're gonna tell us that we're about to transcend. But first they have to make the world so ugly and incentivize us joining with their system. That's why they wanna put us into an artificial system first, so that we don't recognize by increments that we're being killed. Exactly, and they accuse us to be conservative, archaic, because we defend natural values. Because for them, nature is something that should be overcome, that should be controlled, should be destroyed finally. And forced political theory, it is a kind of superstructure over this natural protest

1:17:19 over this populist revolt, because this revolt is on the basis of the feelings that something is going wrong. And first political theory tries to clear the way, the vision for the future. That is a danger. When we begin to struggle against liberalism, very easily we are going to the old and ineffective alternative as communism or fascism. So we need to

1:17:54 to create, to imagine new kind of anti-liberalism that shouldn't be communist or fascist. That is the essence of Ford's political theory and that is precisely, as you have said, the only way to save the human essence from this globalist strategy. But we have on our side the absolute majority of humanity, but in the political globalist elite we are a minority. So the people like Vladimir Putin or Donald Trump are minorities.

1:18:36 that in the political circles that represent absolute majority of the of the humanity that is that we have a minority in government and power structures a majority and the people worldwide know prima facie common sense. Let me ask you this then. I mean basically it's a pro-human movement, but the globalists call themselves the humanists, but really they're trying to end humanity in their own admissions. So I mean it's almost like we need a real pro-human movement and it's going to become clearer as they try to displace us with robots, with machines, that this is just a group of crazy people.

1:19:16 So, that is very important thing because we need to revise what human is. Now the human is in the center of discussion because the continuation of the same global strategy will signify in the next time, in the very, very near time to all the humanity, the end of the human. And the idea of globalists, they try to replace the humanity by post-colonialism. by transhumanity without noticing that. The idea is that there are no witnesses. There is a process, so-called natural process, the progress, development and so on, that is something that is going by

1:20:10 by itself, that is not artificial, that is normal, that is natural, but that is not normal and that is not natural. That is the kind of deliberate strategy and they try to eliminate the witnesses. I think that Putin and Trump are two witnesses of what is going on. And they represent the people. peoples and they are encircled by globalists. The situation you have described in your show when Trump is encircled by deep state groups or globalist personalities is exactly the same as in Russia. So if we represent Russia as a full-scale Putin's rule, it is not correct. Putin is isolated in the personality, encircled

1:21:07 by the people, they are more or less the same as in American political elites. And that is the problem. Because top globalists will threaten, they'll get your family, they'll anything, and most people are cowards and go along with it. And in closing, There have been groups that have always tried to dominate and totally enslave humanity, and now they've got the machines, they believe they can do it because they want to play God. They don't like the fact, these psychopaths, that other humans aren't totally controllable and seek for freedom like a plant seeks the sun. And so that's why they want to end humanity because they believe we're incompatible with their vision. This is the main issue. And I look at the traitors.

1:21:53 that join the system, the John Olivers and people who clearly aren't totally evil like Hillary Clinton, and I look at them selling themselves out. Can't they intellectually see what they've done? Don't they have a struggle within themselves to defeat this evil when it's admittedly so evil and it's admittedly so anti-human? Don't their ancestors, their very genetics, cry out to resist it? What are these people missing that know this is an evil master plan and join it believing they're winners when it's obviously so anti-human and is a lie and they're conning themselves. The only way to win is to fight this. They're delusional. Why don't they understand that?

1:22:35 their idea, the idea of globalists, what is human is completely wrong. But now they, little by little, they already stopped to appeal to the humanism and they appeal to post-humanism or transhumanism. It is more in the mood of the progress. So, the humanism belongs to us and they use this world rarely now because humanism is too limited in their opinion by human nature and they try to transcend, to transgress human nature. That is the idea.

1:23:24 Absolutely. It's always the same. The spirit that possesses them says, kill humanity and I'll give you the keys to everything. When we've already been given the keys by God, but we have to go through the steps and it's pure evil we're facing. But the good news is I believe humanity is beginning to awaken from a great slumber. I think a new turning is happening. Just in brief, Alexander, do you agree with that? Dr. Alexander Dugin. And then I want to invite you back for a full hour. You can send us exhibits if you'd like. We'll do a whole walkthrough of your book, The Fourth Political Theory, and share more with us. But just where would you say we are in this fight, briefly? So I think that now the idea, the image of the defender that represent the final obstacle to anti-Christ

1:24:15 to come. It is very very good sign of our struggle. And in that situation there is no difference between the West and the East between Europe and Asia between the United States and Russia. We are all in the same struggle. It is first of all spiritual struggle, that is the struggle for the meaning of what is human because they have usurped, they've made usurpation of the meaning, the semantic core of what is human.

1:24:51 They're assaulting the very core of that which shows how alien this is and the great litmus test is someone for life is someone a lover of humanity or someone a hater of it and we have to understand that That is the litmus test for any of these people. Are they traditionalist? Because you'll always notice, Antichrist spirit is always anti-traditionalist. It's always trying to twist what humanity is. Alexander Dugan, thank you so much, doctor, for joining us. I look forward to speaking to you again soon. All right, ladies and gentlemen, Mike Cernovich to give us a preview of what's coming up in the fourth hour joins us on the other side of this quick break. I'm telling you, ladies and gentlemen,