Topic: Fourth Political Theory

The conversation turns to Russian philosopher Alexander Dugin and his book "The Great Awakening vs. The Great Reset." Hinkle defends Dugin as an honorable nationalist who respects the American populist movement. While Jones notes Dugin's past rhetoric about Russia defeating the "Atlanticist" sea powers, Hinkle argues that Dugin's current focus is on a shared global struggle against the deep state cabal.

Alexander Dugin outlines his Fourth Political Theory, which rejects the three major political ideologies of the 20th century: liberalism, communism, and fascism. Dugin asserts his identity as a Christian traditionalist and a former Soviet dissident who opposes both the racism of fascism and the statism of communism. He argues that globalism is the primary modern threat and that humanity must return to its primal nature and sovereign identities to resist centralized failed systems.