EXCLUSIVE INTEL: Jan 6 Prisoners Being Systematically Tortured In Ways That Rival North Korea + MASSIVE Guests Join Today’s Broadcast! — THURSDAY FULL SHOW 11/09/23

00:00 They admit on MSNBC, this is what for all of us. And again, the worst thing is the box handcuffs and the de-sling. When you're on a truck 18, 16 hours a day and they don't take these off, this is illegal. This is torture. Rallying patriots worldwide in defense of human liberty. It's Alex Jones. If you don't force behaviors, whether it's gender or race or just any way you want to say the composition of your team, we're going to have to force change. The big money, the big banks, the federal government, BlackRock, whether it's the University of Texas, hell A&M is even this bad now, or Yale or Harvard's the worst, Berkeley, they literally teach and it's not just the political science classes, they make a whole bunch of them.

01:01 CRT and transgender stuff and leftist queer theory pedophile theory Mandatory now in these colleges and it's in the high schools to the junior highs as he went to many of the elementaries It's come out that the government keeps it secret across the country and files on the kids and the parents and try to cut the children away from the parents and convince them to change their gender. This is a multi-million dollar industry. Azra Nomani did what more journalists should do She filed Freedom of Information Act requests that forced school districts to reveal that they're paying consultants to spread critical race theory. I have the proof. We found 300 plus contracts and counting. Like every day I'm getting a new contract. For them to deny it is just part of their campaign. But that's just for teachers, says the CNN guest. Can it influence

01:51 the way that some teachers teach. Yeah, but that's a good thing, right? Because race and racism is literally the building blocks of this country. I mean, this is already over the edge of the cliff. We're already over the cliff here. We're not about to go over the cliff. We drove over it a long time ago. And so when you see the cashless society and you see the social credit scores and you see you go to the grocery store and they're in your facing, have an app, use an app to be here, you'll get great deals. Here's a headline, China creates global AI governance initiative to control world's tech, control the population's mind, infiltrating our minds, the future of cognitive warfare, the official main operation that is now in full swing of the Communist Party China.

02:37 and they admit it's a competing program to the West that has a very similar AI brainwashing. cultural control grid rolling out, but they're two competing systems because Xi Jinping about nine years ago broke with the globalists who he'd been allied with. That's what always happens with these tyrants is they'll work with each other at first and then when one group thinks they have the other hand, the upper hand, they will make their move. It is funded by the most powerful banks and corporations in the world to promote classical malice, Marxist-Leninist ideology.

03:12 And the revolutionary form that they've chosen of communism, which is a bunch of different subsets, is the Maoist model. The Confucius organizations of almost all the major public and private colleges literally run by the communist Chinese. So the hour is extremely late. We're very, very far down this rattle. Remember I told you decades ago China was funding thousands of colleges? for the curriculum, giving them billions of dollars to undermine America, to criticize capitalism, the nuclear family, while China is promoting the nuclear family to make us weak. And now it came out a few months ago that thousands of public schools and private schools are given Chinese communist money to follow their curriculum. So this is all paid for.

03:55 The transgenderism, the communism, the critical race theory, and it's all coming from BlackRock and the communist Chinese. And when you go into a restaurant, they want to make you look at an app to order your food. That's literally through the global restaurant associations and the World Economic Forum and the big banks. When you walk in a grocery store, they're trying to make you have an app or Chick-fil-A. All of that is to get you ready for the cashless society. People say, oh, it's just a technology. No, it's designed and being implemented and rolled out. to totally and completely make it a post-human world. If you don't have humans serving you dinner, or cutting your hair, or growing your vegetables, or raising your children, it's a computer. And it's an AI system where it can all be standardized and surveilled and tracked. So everything is about building new independent economies and not joining the big centralized economy as much as you can. They've already made it impossible, unless you're Amish, to not interface with it some.

04:50 They're simply looking at us as a commodity and saying, humans have always been cheap, but now they're garbage. And they just say the future is not human. Humans were bad. We're worthless. We hurt the earth. We don't have free will. Well, the globalists actually don't believe that. They want you to hate yourself and have a self-fulfilling prophecy the world's going to end in 2030. Because if they get their plans of gen 2030 through, you'll think it's the end of the world. And for most of us, it will be. You're going to live through this. This is all going to happen. They're going to attempt it. InfoWars, tomorrow's news today. It's Thursday, November 9th, 2023. I just got interviewed by the mighty Russell Brand for two hours. It's gonna air next week. A lot of other big podcasts that people have been putting in the can and waiting on. A couple big ones, I'll leave it at that. When they drop them, they drop them.

06:09 All right, I spent a couple hours yesterday on some very disturbing phone calls with lawyers and others dealing with January 6th convictees in the kangaroo courts, namely my old friend Joe Big and others, Joe Bigs. They are torturing the living snot out of them in prison. They don't just have Owen in solitary confinement. They are torturing the hell out of them. And it's standard torture that they do to political prisoners. We're going to be joined by Joe Biggs' lawyer, Norm Pattis, and one of the leaders of one of the main activist groups has been in contact with all of the major people that were convicted in the kangaroo courts in DC. But they're not even letting people talk to their lawyers. So we've had to get this from sources inside the prison and it's been confirmed. And we've also going to have a guest on who hasn't been able to talk to them, but not for weeks. It's been intensifying.

07:10 We're talking about keeping people in restraint 16 hours a day, driving them from prison to prison, not feeding them for up to three days, not letting them talk to their lawyers. I mean, this is what happened to our troops that got captured by the North Vietnamese. This is North Korea stuff, folks. This is North Korea level crap. And Congressman Biggs, no relation to Joe Biggs who heads up the committee that has oversight of the Bureau of Prisons, is hopping mad He's confirmed a lot of this has happened and we've confirmed it had meetings with the Speaker of the House, Biggs' representatives and others have, and also Congressman Gates. You saw some of the hearings this week where Owen was brought up and Owen's great and what's happened to him is terrible in a precedent-setting case of a journalist put in jail for free speech and it's terrible.

08:08 But what they're doing to the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers is unbelievable. Imagine not getting fed for three days. Imagine being thrown in a freezing cell in your underwear for a month, never even allowed out, super max level, for nothing. Imagine not being fed. Imagine being driven from prison to prison. Imagine not talking to your daughter in six months. And it's the model for all of us They've had the left all over Homeland Security, all over TV that we're now gonna use Homeland Security on the Trump supporters. If we don't stand up for Stuart Rhodes and Joe Biggs and Enrique Tarrio and others, we're next. So that's the bottom of the hour. Then we got a bunch of other big guests today. Really interesting fellow, I've known about him for years, got a chance to meet him a few days ago, asked him to come on the show, Mark England. He'll be joining us to talk about the whole waterfront and ways to not get depressed during this tyranny, but to actually overcome it and how to not be a victim.

09:16 Jason Hinkle is a super viral journalist and very eclectic. He'll be joining us as well. And then there's been massive internet outages and power outages in New Zealand, all globalist run. Maria Zia will be reporting on that and I'll host some of her in the fourth hour today. That said, there's a lot of other news and information to get to. Obviously, the debate last night for so many issues is a Rosetta Stone or a keyhole or a skeleton key where you can look to the keyhole and see the bigger world on the other side. Ramaswamy devastated them. The other candidates were a joke, the worst Chris Christie and Nikki Haley up there with her Freudian slip. First thing she'll do is catch and release. He destroyed them and it's the attitude he has

10:13 that we should have against the new world order, against the establishment. The debate had less than a million viewers, but on Steven Crowder's show, last night I was on, it had two million viewers at least. They're a joke and Vivek, skip the break, literally nailed them when he said we shouldn't have NBC hosting a Republican debate. There's no Republicans watching NBC and MSNBC. We should have Joe Rogan and Elon Musk and Tucker Carlson hosting this. They're the populace, they're the popular. Why do we keep kissing the ass of the establishment? No one's watching us because we're idiots. We keep groveling to the system. We keep acting like it's still in power. It's a facade that blew over. You see those Hollywood sets where it's just the front of a house? You look behind it, it's some boards propping it up. This is not even a propped up one foot thick front of a house. It blew over and termites ate it.

11:19 It's a rotting hulk, but let's not be mean. There are a lot of old folks that were smarter than I am and are totally awake, but for the majority of older folks, they still think, even though they don't even watch it, that's the media, that's what matters. And most of the young people are just oblivious, not even tuned into what's happening. But for the large minority of people of every race, color, and creed, it is Alex Jones, it is Tucker Carlson, it is Joe Rogan, it is Vivek Ramaswamy, it is Russell Brand, it is Jimmy Dore. And that's why RFK Jr. sounds like us. And that's why Tulsi Gabbard sounds like us. Whether they're good or bad, they know where the world's going. They can stick their finger in the wind and say it's blowing the direction of freedom. And so my greatest victory is you keeping me on air. It's your victory. And the fact that we sustained through all these attacks to get to the point where we see the Great Awakening exploding right now.

12:18 The problem is, it's like this passé thing like the war is over though, Alex, you're not needed anymore. No, we're awake that we're in a war. And now when we speak out against lockdowns and tyranny, we get a response and we have some victory. But now we're in the fight. And this is the most important point of our entire operation. So I'm gonna plug this right now. Looking to the news, I thought about this last night, this morning, because it's a paradox. It's a very interesting paradox that I wanna explain to people. For at least four or five years, we've been on the edge of not having enough money to operate. We've made every cut we can make. We can't cut anymore. People don't get raises around here for years, bonuses, nothing, but they stay here because they're dedicated and they care about freedom. I've sold almost everything I've got. I'm in the process of selling the last piece of property. It's not my home. Won't even pay a third of what I need to get done. I'm not complaining. If God wants me out of the game and God doesn't touch your heart to support us, that's the way it is. But let me explain the paradox here.

13:18 This building, this infrastructure, the crew, the brain trust we have here. If I shut this down and just say, well, we're essentially been shut down. I'm not quitting. You've quit on us and I'm not mad at you. And people think, well, Jones is around forever. You know, he's fine. If I don't show you and shut it down, I won't get the funds. Now I know what's going to happen the minute we announce, oh, we're shutting down in two weeks, we'll suddenly have more money than we need. But I don't jerk people's chain. And the way it works in bankruptcy, because we're going through reorganization, is if we do say we're shut down, we're shut down. So I can't sit here and bluff you, because it's not a bluff. I have to explain to you that I personally am now, I said a million dollars in the hole. If I sell my property that's up for sale, it's worth a million bucks, I'm in the hole $2 million. Now at a sick level, I'm doing this 29 years, I'll still do interviews, I'll still do show, it's fine.

14:20 Love the crew. I don't have the victory to shut this down, but at one level like well I mean, I'm gonna be on air seven eight hours today. I was up here at 10 o'clock last night I'm not complaining. I love it, but I never quit and I never sell out But if you don't take me seriously don't support us. That's your decision And I got news did so I'm resigned to it. I feel good. I've done my job It's all in God's hands, but when I tell you because that's the Achilles heel and that's what they did. They knew what they were doing. They make me pay half the legal bills for free speech. Free speech has the money to pay the bills. Not a lot of extra, but they can do it. They have me paying half the bills. And the big joke is, oh, Jones will give up or Jones will go away if we just set it up because they knew my real money right when I filed. And so they set it up where I'd run down to nothing thinking that'll demoralize me. No, it'll just shut this down and then I'll just continue on. It just won't be InfoWars. So

15:20 That's really up to everybody right now. I need people to go to defendjones.com and you can make a donation. You know, the goal I put up a month ago is a million bucks, raise like $200,000, defendjones.com on give, send, go. No, I mean, I need to raise millions of dollars. And it sounds like, ooh, millions. Millions is nothing nowadays. If you want this to stay on the air, go make a donation, $5, $1,000, $10, $100 at defendjones.com. And I do actually get part of the money from the sale of my book at infowarestore.com. You get the signed copy, I get a big percentage of it. If everybody just went and got a signed copy of The Great Awakening, Defeating the Globalists, and Launching the Next Great Renaissance at infowarestore.com, I wouldn't be spending five hours a day

16:04 Five hours a day jacking with money. And I'm not complaining. I just want to be on the field fighting. It's a great book. It's historic. It's a game plan. We're winning in many levels. Go to infowarestore.com and support Free Species as well by getting Ultra 12 back in stock, by getting Super Female Vitality, by getting Coil Silver, by getting all the great products that are there. That's what it takes to fight a war, and we sell you great products in the process. Down and Out Sleep Aid, 40% off. But whatever you do, however you see fit, this will be a commitment. If I come in here in a month and I say, well, it looks like I'm not gonna be able to continue on, and there'll be an agreement with the court, and I'll say there's a three, four month wind down, we'll sell out of everything that's left, and suddenly there'll be all this support. I'm not gonna pull the plug, folks, and turn it back on. When I say, okay, we've run our course, it's not a bluff. We will then disconnect InfoWars.

17:07 and the crew will have three, four months to get a job. We'll sell it, everything we've got. And people will be like, no, we want to donate. We want to help. We want to, no, it's done. It's done because you can't with a court start the process and reverse it. So I'm ready to resign right now. I'm ready to do it. I'm not, I'm sick of begging for money. I don't like doing it. And if God has decided, and I think that's what maybe is happening, that I'm not supposed to be here anymore. I think the crew is going to be fine as well. We're ready to pull the plug and Odell will get out of prison. Hopefully he can come back and say bye to everybody too. And he'll have a new show and all the rest of it. That's just how this is. So it's not George Soros is going to decide whether we stay on air. It's not Hillary Clinton. It's you.

17:51 You're going to decide whether we stay on air or not. We are the trailblazers. We wrote the book because the old-timers were the real OGs. The John Birchers and the generals and just the FBI agents and just all, and the G. Edward Griffins, General Partons, they were writing books and talking to tiny audiences and traveling the country in the world warning people. And they're the reason we're here. They lit the fire, they created it. Info Wars by you, by the grace of God, is what brought it to the masses. We're the big giant wave. And if it's time for that wave to go away, we already see all the new huge waves of resistance to the new world order. It's the thing now, it's everywhere, it's the dominant force. And if it's my time to bow out, still do interviews, still do stuff, things, but it won't be the big deal.

18:45 That is your decision. You have to decide right now. Go to infowarestore.com and get products. Go to infowarestore.com. It says donate. Sign up for auto-donate or do it one time. Decide whether you want to keep free speech on the air. But the Achilles heel is Alex Jones, and the court knows full well I have no money. They know I'm upside down. They're like, hey, you're going to pay the bills, and you go away. And so that's where this is, ladies and gentlemen. So they're essentially shutting us down, but they don't want you to have the victory of them officially shutting us down. They just want to have the victory, I think I'm too stupid to not know this, of where I have no money and I can't even operate. And then there won't be legal bills to pay for the appeals and the defense and all the stuff going on in the bankruptcy. So that will shut down free speech. That's where we are. It's very simple. You have a decision.

19:37 You decide to go to defendjones.com and make a donation. You decide to buy my book. That supports free speech and me. There's a few things I get funds from. Or you decide to go be a member of jonescrowder.com. You get all the Steven Crowder shows, all the other shows, my special show, all the things we do there for like $7 and change a month. You get a free month, jonescrowder.com. Go there. Decide to support. But I'm going to get to a point in the next few weeks where I'm not going to even plug stuff anymore. It's gonna be up to you. And I've always been honest with the crew. I'm like, no, we're not shutting down. Hey, we can fight for years. Hey, we can go on. Well, years have gone by now. I don't want the crew to go to another job yet. I think we're gonna make it through this. But people aren't listening to what I'm saying. All right? They think, oh, that's just Jones. You know, the media says he's got $400 million. I don't have $500,000. May I be struck down by a bolt of lightning if I'm lying? It's not true. They just want us to go away

20:42 They don't want to have the victory, us have the victory of shutting us down. That made Tucker Carlson even bigger. But that's what they're effectively doing. So it's up to you and I'm done talking about it. But let me get back to the positive news because everybody's Alex Jones now. And they've been Ramoswani knocked it out of the park. You say, oh, is he good? Is he bad? The stuff he's doing is devastating them. Same thing with Elon Musk, same thing with Joe Rogan, same thing with Russell Brand, all of it. Tucker Carlson, the list goes on and on. So the good news is, maybe I'm like an old military officer that's already been in like five wars and I'm old now and maybe it's time for me to take a back seat. I'm ready, I'm calm, I'm prepared, and I've done my mission. But if you decide to pull me out of the game, if you decide to take me and put me on the bench, then do it. And I'm done. It's that simple. Defendjones.com, jonescrowder.com, inforwardstory.com. Get the book.

21:49 Buy the signed copy, get the unsigned copy, whatever you do, you make the decision. We've been through a long hard fight this far and I don't want to be taken out of the game. I want to keep fighting. But man, I'm not going to sit here for five, ten minutes a show when we got so much critical news for people and talk about myself anymore. You're going to get one minute plugs an hour, here on out, and that's it. And if the money don't come in, we're gone. You've been told, it's been there, that's a fact, you can bet your bottom dollar on it. On my soul, on my children, that's how it is. All right, good. Now let's get to what I was talking about. And you got Hillary coming out saying Trump is Hitler and Trump's gonna put everybody in prison. That's what they're actually doing to us.

22:35 You got Ramaswani saying this place is a joke, no one watches NBC, and Lester Holt was like literally having a meltdown because they know they're nobody. They know everybody hates them, but why does the Republican Party go kiss its ass? Because they're part of the establishment propping up the system. They're losing on purpose. Here's Vivek Ramaswani. Let me turn to you. Please make your case. Why would you, why should you be the nominee and not the former president? I think there's something deeper going on in the Republican Party here, and I am upset about what happened last night. We've become a party of losers at the end of the day. We're a cancer in the Republican establishment. Let's speak the truth. I mean, since Ronna McDaniel took over as chairwoman of the RNC in 2017, we have lost 2018, 2020, 2022, no red wave that never came. We got trounced last night in 2023. And I think that we have to have

23:26 accountability in our party. For that matter, Ron, if you want to come on stage tonight, you want to look the GOP voters in the eye and tell them you resign, I will turn over my, yield my time to you. And frankly, look, the people there are cheering for losing in the Republican Party. Think about who's moderating this debate. This should be Tucker Carlson, Joe Rogan, and Elon Musk. We'd have ten times the viewership asking questions that GOP primary voters actually care about and bringing more people into our party. Do you think the Democrats, and we've got Kristen Welker here, do you think the Democrats would actually hire Greg Gutfeld to host a Democratic debate? They wouldn't do it.

24:01 And so the fact of the matter is, I mean, Christian, I'm going to use this time because this is actually about you in the media and the corrupt media establishment. Ask you the Trump-Russia collusion hoax that you pushed on this network for years. Was that real or was that Hillary Clinton made up disinformation? Answer the question. Go. Mr. Rucks... This is how we get our country back. accountability because this media rigged the 2016 election. They rigged the 2020 election with a Hunter Biden laptop story. And they're going to rig this election accountability. Let me turn to Governor Christie. That's right. They rigged the election. Everything you said was totally true. He pointed out the fentanyl killing a hundred and some thousand people a year is a chemical attack on our biology.

24:47 People are putting it in Big Macs, the biggest story ever. Imagine if Big Macs had killed 110,000 people or 112,000 people. People were putting fentanyl in it to be, oh, poisoning. But no one's like, oh, it's an overdose. No, they put it in the marijuana, they put it in the vapes, they put it in all the crap. I mean, everybody I know has had family die. I'm pissed. Now we got Hillary Clinton saying Trump is Hitler and that oh Hitler got elected, oh he's gonna put everybody in jail. They're the ones putting everybody in jail. They're the ones surveilling everybody. They're the ones saying the American people are terrorists. Here she is on the view that's been cancelled, it's not being renewed. Here's this failure, this war criminal blob up there literally saying what she is but saying that it's Trump instead. Here it is.

25:30 , Trump's policies, I think, and the deep divisions that he sowed in this country. What, in your view, would happen if he were to be re-elected? Oh, I can't even think that because I think it would be the end of our country as we know it. And I don't say that lightly. You know, I hated losing. And I especially hated losing to him because I had seen so many warning signals during the campaign. But I immediately said, look, we have to give him a chance. We've got to support.

26:15 you know, the president we have, and I meant it, and I tried really hard. And then, literally, from his inauguration on, it was nothing but, you know, accusing people of things, making up facts, denying the size of the crowd at his own inauguration. And everything that I worried about I saw unfolding. And so I think that he'd be even worse now because he was somewhat restrained believe it or not, in the first term by people who he hired because he thought they would go along with him and they stood up to him. And so now he is going to, if you were ever near the Oval Office again, find people who have no principles, no conscience, who are totally tied to his

27:02 fortunes, literally, and therefore would do whatever he said. And so the wreckage is almost unimaginable. You know, when I was Secretary of State, I used to talk about one and done. And what I meant by that is that people would get legitimately elected. Look at this war longer. And then they would try to do away with elections. Remember she said Trump wasn't legitimately elected. And do away with opposition. And do away with a free press. And you could see it in countries where, well Hitler was duly elected. That's right. Right? And so all of a sudden somebody with those tendencies, so dictatorial authoritarian tendencies would be like, okay we're going to shut this down, we're going to throw these people in jail. And they didn't usually telegraph that. Trump is telling us what he intends to do. Take him at the

27:50 And then she goes on, guys get me the full clip, she goes, he wants to shut down the free press, he wants to censor. No, that's you, you disgusting witch. That's you and big tech and the whole establishment. You're the establishment. You're the torturing the J6 people right now. I'm a pioneer. I'm an explorer. I'm a human and I'm coming. I'm animated. I'm alive. My heart's big. It's got blood going through it fast. I like to fight too. I like to eat. I like to have children.

28:31 I'm here! I got a life force! This is a human! This is what we look like! This is what we act like! This is what everybody was like before us! This is what I am! I'm a throwback! I'm here! I've got the fire of human liberty! I'm setting fires everywhere! And humans are turning on everywhere! Get behind me, Satan! Down with the devil! All right, everybody knows I was there on January 6th. We know the truth. The feds ran their operation. They set us up. President Trump had an area to speak by the Supreme Court, by the White House, by the Capitol. He never got there because the Secret Service wouldn't take him there. It was a setup.

29:22 We've seen the kangaroo trials in DC. We see Trump with a judge already finding him guilty in New York, who will then decide how guilty he is. We've seen myself have judges find me guilty. This is a new America. And we know in the DC gulag, which is a notoriously horrible jail, Owen Schreyer was there and had roaches all over him. You fall asleep for two minutes, just dozens of them all over you, hundreds of them down on the walls in every cell. Owen is in solitary confinement for his free speech from prison calling out, which is not illegal. But this isn't about Owen, this is about all of us. Joe Biggs used to be a reporter here as well, was there, didn't attack anybody, didn't do anything. He shook a fence, they say, and he was convicted and sent to prison for decades along with Enrique Tarrio and others. We haven't heard from him in months. We haven't heard from Stuart Rhodes and the Oath Keepers who did absolutely nothing. And

30:25 Now, his lawyer, Joe Biggs' lawyer can't even get in touch with him. He's also my lawyer, famous constitutional lawyer, Norm Pattis. Trent Evans heads up and is the founder and the head of Condemned USA Investigative Documentarian, author, January 6th expert speaker, rocked the red board, Condemned USA on Twitter, CondemnedUSA.com. He is one of the only people in his organization, they've been there since day one, who's got enough sources and enough of the J6ers, at least be able to talk to a few of them to find out what's happening. So they disappeared into a black hole. He's recently talked to Beggs, his team has, his lawyer has not in a while. And what I've confirmed is going on, torture devices, restraints, dieseling where they drive you around from facility to facility or leave you in a car.

31:18 putting on box handcuffs, which the manufacturer and I have their own documents here says you shouldn't wear for more than three hours, 16 or more hours, not feeding them for several days, up to three days. This is stuff you wouldn't do to terrorists. And they're setting the precedent for everybody and saying Homeland Security needs to go after all Trump supporters and outlaws. That's on MSNBC, CNN. So Norm Patus, you can introduce this and then bring in Trent Evans from Condemned USA, the founder and head of it that focuses on this and documents this and thank God has been able to get us this intel because we still haven't talked to Owen. I'm not going to say how we know. Obviously, there's folks inside the prison don't like what's happening, both guards and prisoners.

32:01 It's the same thing with the Nashville shooters manifesto. They've taken seven of the police off of on administrative leave. They're not the ones that gave Crowder the information. I'll leave it at that. But it shows the persecution just to even get this intel. So when you've got secret political prisoners, that's next level, not just political prisoners, but now we don't even know what's going on with them. And we get tiny little snapshots of the hell they're in. Joe Biggs, I've not been fed in three days. I sleep in the, you know, with no clothes, you know, 15 people and my underwear in freezing temperatures. I mean, and I know the standard torture of de-ceiling has been documented before, but now they're scaling it up for everybody.

32:43 So constitutional lawyer, Norm Patus, I'm gonna give you and Trenas Evans pretty much the floor here. We're skipping the next breaks. We got about 22 minutes here. Start off here and then let's bring in Trenas Evans. So thank you for having me, Alex. It's always a pleasure to see you and to be able to address your viewers. There is a war going on in the United States and it's a war for the soul of America. And that war, one of the battlefields is in the nation's prison system. It's very easy for prison officials to engage in what I'll call subliminal warfare, warfare just below the threshold of what is obvious. And this is what's going on with Joe Biggs. Joe Biggs, you may recall, was an InfoWars reporter. He was also my client in the January 6th case. In that case, the insurrection case, federal prosecutors charged him with planning an insurrection.

33:31 with other members of the proud boys and persons known and unknown to use force against the authority of the United States government. There was really no evidence that they did anything other than occur in a riot and then enter Capitol grounds thereafter. And maybe they shouldn't have. That was a crime we would have considered pleading to, but insurrection never. Joe was convicted. Thereafter, the government sought to have him declared a terrorist. They saw what's called a terrorism enhancement under federal sentencing guidelines. Now, how does that work, you'll say? He was convicted of insurrection. A D.C. jury found him guilty. The terrorism enhancement is one that says if a person engages in certain conduct, it should be regarded as ultra serious. There are 47 statutes that will qualify you as a terrorist. They include things like blowing up an airliner, assassinating a congressman,

34:17 kidnapping a federal official, using anthrax or biochemical weapons. Joe and the Proud Boys did nothing of the sort. They did- Shooting Congressman Scalise, breaking Rand Paul's ribs, but the media didn't call them terrorists. Keep going. So, what happened is a fence got destroyed that day, and that fence was worth no more than $32,000. Well, one of the offenses that will qualify you for the terrorism enhancement is destruction of government property. So, the government said, look, look at this fence, they're terrorists. Judge Timothy Hathaway Kelly, I call him Hathaway because the government always asks for too much and Kelly gave him half of what they wanted. We were supposed to be thankful for that. We weren't. And we'll take that up with the appellate court. But Kelly sentenced him, but they had the scarlet T on their forehead. And the prison officials, when they take a look at their transit papers and see the terrorism designation, they don't know who they're looking at. And so they're treating these men as though they are members of Hamas in Jerusalem. Joe, for example,

35:15 has been en route to his final destination for more than a week now. And what's happened before he got there? You'll recall, I call it the Dostoevsky assassination trick. The Tsar, I think it was Tsar Nicholas, once had Dostoevsky condemned to death, the famous Russian author. Dostoevsky was marched out, he faced the firing squad and the Tsar said, no, no, no, I'll call it off. And Dostoevsky was shattered by the experience. Here's what they're doing, the bigs and the guys. Wake him up one morning, get up, we're moving you. Now you've got to get rid of your material. You'd lose your commissary accounts. You've got to get stuff. They won't let take a, they would let you take with you. They'll move them to a car and then they'll sit in there or on a bus. And then they'll say, nevermind, we're going to take you back. This happened on several, but the most important part is the box handcuffs that are pure torture. We're getting to that right now. So Joe, then they're going to move him about, uh, you know, down, um, down to Petersburg.

36:07 And they put them in a transport vehicle with box handcuffs on for 16 hours. Now, these handcuffs are designed so that a person cannot undo the chains or get a key into the lock. The manufacturer says no more than a couple hours, two or three, it could cause permanent damage. Joe's hands were in that box cuffs for 16 hours. such that he lost sensation to his hands. We don't know whether there's going to be permanent or nerve damage or not. Now, mind you, Joe is a combat veteran who suffered a traumatic brain injury as a result of injuries he suffered in Iraq. He did two tours there. He was on the phone with one of the folks from Condemned USA. And by the way, if you don't know Condemned USA, get to know them. They're doing God's work in this case. By the way, I know Joe well. We've been at the river. We've been to the lake. He's been to my house and swam.

36:57 He didn't make a big deal about it, but he wasn't just blown up. He's got traveling bullet holes on him. He's a Purple Heart recipient. I mean, he was the only proud boy who received the Purple Heart, the only J6 condemned knee that got the Purple Heart. He told a person it condemned, he was in so much pain and is that he kept praying for God to take away the pain. This is pain the United States government put on him. Joe Biggs, patriot, Purple Heart winner, being moved by our government in secrecy. And what's he doing? Please, God, take this pain away from me. I can't take it anymore. They get him to a location. By the way, it's on record. He got that Purple Heart and other accommodations literally in blown up vehicles and hand-to-hand combat with Al Qaeda.

37:39 Brave man. As he testified, or as he told me, it was in a statement, he always wanted to be the tip of the spear. Joe went to where the action was. He was an action junkie. When he was in Iraq, nobody had to volunteer to flush out the enemy. Joe went first. He's a hero. Now he's praying, God, please take the pain away that the government has imposed on me. They get to a location 16 hours later, he hasn't eating in a day. They give him a slice of pizza, another day goes by, that's all they give him to eat. He can't get a commissary account. He talks to guards about this and said, what's going on? Well, and here's what they tell him. They regard him as a terrorist. They're afraid of him. As a result of this, he is being kept under unusually harsh conditions. One night he was forced to sleep on the floor in a cell with 15 other people without even a blanket. So he's cuffed

38:31 Manacled in ways that cause excruciating pain, deprived food, deprived access to food that he can buy himself, forced to sleep on the floor, and he still hasn't arrived at his final destination. Right now he's in Atlanta. We don't know how long he will remain in Atlanta. And here's the key, they're not letting him talk to you. You have to give this to other people. Well, yeah, you know, when you try to make a prison call, they say, oh no, the inmate has to initiate it. When the inmate tries to initiate it, suddenly the phone doesn't work or they can't get through to you. And so they can keep them in isolation. So he's been sucked into a black hole like our troops and by the Japanese or by the Vietnamese or by the North Koreans. Norm, let's bring in the other guest here, Trentice Evans, who by all I've seen him on many other shows, we're glad to have him here. They've been working with these political prisoners since it started.

39:20 almost three years ago. So, so Trent, give us, you've actually talked to the folks. We've been unable to get a hold of Joe in like two, three months. What is happening? So between our representatives and the family members, we're able to stay in very good communication with these individuals and track the movements and track the absolute abhorrent failure and the mis- injustice that is happening in our criminal justice system, i.e. the BOP, from everything that's happening from watching these guys with the transport, they're being told they're domestic terrorists with, you know, as Norm mentioned here, with the terrorism enhancement charges. And it is a fact that these people are scared. We've witnessed this, we've heard this story time and again with these individuals that, you know, the guards get this guy, it says it's a terrorist and they're going, wow, okay, this is a really bad person. They must have blown someone up, killed someone, done some abhorrent, horrific action.

38:31 Manacled in ways that cause excruciating pain, deprived food, deprived access to food that he can buy himself, forced to sleep on the floor, and he still hasn't arrived at his final destination. Right now he's in Atlanta. We don't know how long he will remain in Atlanta. And here's the key, they're not letting him talk to you. You have to give this to other people. Well, yeah, you know, when you try to make a prison call, they say, oh no, the inmate has to initiate it. When the inmate tries to initiate it, suddenly the phone doesn't work or they can't get through to you. And so they can keep them in isolation. So he's been sucked into a black hole like our troops and by the Japanese or by the Vietnamese or by the North Koreans. Norm, let's bring in the other guest here, Trentice Evans, who by all I've seen him on many other shows, we're glad to have him here. They've been working with these political prisoners since it started.

39:20 almost three years ago. So, so Trent, give us, you've actually talked to the folks. We've been unable to get a hold of Joe in like two, three months. What is happening? So between our representatives and the family members, we're able to stay in very good communication with these individuals and track the movements and track the absolute abhorrent failure and the mis- injustice that is happening in our criminal justice system, i.e. the BOP, from everything that's happening from watching these guys with the transport, they're being told they're domestic terrorists with, you know, as Norm mentioned here, with the terrorism enhancement charges. And it is a fact that these people are scared. We've witnessed this, we've heard this story time and again with these individuals that, you know, the guards get this guy, it says it's a terrorist and they're going, wow, okay, this is a really bad person. They must have blown someone up, killed someone, done some abhorrent, horrific action.

40:10 and come to find out, just like Norm said and like the evidence spoke to, these guys are guilty of protesting, maybe a little too boisterous or at the most, you know, engaging in some what might one could consider riotous behavior. And here we are in America that you have Purple Heart recipients, highly decorated individuals that are experiencing this kind of absolute strife placed upon them by Merrick Garland, Joe Biden and their weaponized justice system today. And this is a very scary time in our country and people should be very worried about what's happening here. Well, that's right. And talk about your organization and the talk of the families talking to these victims because we know they were getting tortured. People have their eyes put out in the DC gulag, but now they're scaling it up no matter where they go. Owen Schroeder didn't go in the Capitol, try to keep people out. He gets a couple months in the gulag and now he's in solitary confinement.

41:03 Yeah, so the absolute effort of the government to absolutely destroy these people. So there's a psychological effort, as already mentioned, and then there's the abuse of these individuals by medical treatment. We've seen other Proud Boys, even Christopher Worrell denied medical treatment. You've seen the judges actually cite individuals that were running the DC Gulag, Wanda Patton and Quincy Booth, that later resigned over this. or the absolute inhumane treatment and failure to administer medical treatment. This is a ongoing story. I mean, I could sit here and list person after person, individual after individual. And when you talk to these mothers and these wives and the children of these individuals,

41:43 you should just be heartbroken by what you hear. So the organization, it was formed in an effort to help these people. We've raised the money for legal defenses. We've raised money for the appeals. We've raised money to house attorneys. Great men like Norm Patus have come at this thing and they're absolutely, they talk about the tip of the spear. We're talking about the tip of the spear here. Alex, you're the tip of the spear in the reporting on this. You have Norm Patus as the tip of the spear in the legal and it's a conjoined effort. Norm's gone down to Louisiana with Owen, he's gone to other jails and prisons. For other people, he was there last week with Matt Gaetz and the head of the committee over prisons, Congressman Biggs, no relation to Biggs, and they're bringing up in hearings, there's now investigations going on. What needs to happen to stop this? Because I know Norm, you've done the research, you know the name of the federal prosecutor that we now know is in control of this, demanding some of this persecution. I mean, this is a message to all of us to intimidate the American people.

42:40 I think it is. I think the goal and there's no mystery that this occurs in 2024 in the run up to the next general election. The message that we're supposed to get is be afraid, be very afraid, be careful, be very careful, maybe stay home, maybe don't dissent, maybe don't go to your church if you have to be a conservative Roman Catholic. Our response has to be hell no, we will go. And I think the best thing that ordinary people can do today right now is pick up the pen and paper and write a letter to one of these inmates. And the reason I say that, and we have their addresses on the screen, the reason I say that is people know, the guards know that we're watching when they get

43:16 The administration knows that we're watching when they get the mail. The last conversation I had with Owen, he was telling me how grateful he was to people for all the mail they sent. I saw the public broadcast, the broadcast, the message that was broadcast publicly. He thanked listeners, right to Joe Biggs, right to Zach Rell, who's being denied medical treatment today. They want him to take an experimental injection. They won't give him the pills that he wanted. And now they're forcing him to detox because they won't give him his prescription. Zach Rell is another military man injured in the line of duty who's being deprived medical care. You need to let them know we're watching. Earlier this week, I was in DC, Alex, the House Judiciary Committee has a subcommittee on the Bureau of Prisons and Collette Peters, I believe her name is, the Bureau of Prisons Director testified. Matt Gates from Florida raised Owen's name. He raised the name of another inmate

44:07 She didn't know anything about it. Representative Andy Biggs asked for permission to have a site visit. He wanted it pre-approved. He got a mealy-mouthed response that was unsatisfactory. I sat there and watched the Bureau of Prisons play like the three monkeys. I hear no evil, I see no evil, I speak no evil. She went to the committee unprepared to address the human rights situation as to these prisoners. I met with Representative Biggs thereafter, and I said, you need to subpoena people from the Washington office of the district attorney's office in the Department of Justice. I believe, I have reason to believe that they're insisting that these men be given harsher, more onerous conditions of confinement because of the crimes they've been convicted of than other similarly situated people. This is simply wrong.

44:53 Congressional oversight needs to be activated at this point. So write to the men, call Mike Johnson. You know, Owen, for example, is being held at the Oakdale Federal Correctional Institution in Oakdale, Louisiana, Mike Johnson's jurisdiction. And let's make no mistake, they are scaling this up. They're on MSNBC and CNN saying, we're going to lock all of you up. You're terrorists. You're the main focus, not Islam, not Russia. Trent Evans, I interrupted you. I apologize. What should we do? What can we do? You agree they're scaling this up. Please continue. This is a full frontal attack. They're no longer doing this from the dark at night. They're no longer doing it from the closets or hiding in the corners and the shadows to do it. They're having ticker tape parades down Main Street right now, advertising what they're going to do to you. And it's like, you better believe them. Take them at their word. This is what they're coming for. They're coming for you. They're coming for your ideology. They're coming for your religion. And they're coming for anything conservative, but to stomp it out and move into this radical leftist ideology.

45:53 What I suggest and what I know is the right thing to do is to get involved and do not think for a second that you can hide from this. You will have nothing in your children and future generations will have nothing if you don't engage now. We're three quarters of the way into Hitler's Germany. What I'm suggesting to you is get on our site, come to Condemned USA. Look at what we're doing. Look at the efforts. We're helping to support efforts of people like Norm Patus, great warriors in this battle. to hold on to what's left of our country and take back some shred of decency and recover from this now what's the remnants of the United States that we once grew up in. Come be a monthly donor, be a contributor to what we do, support these efforts.

46:33 Help us get commissary to these people. Help us take care of their legal needs. Help us take care of their family. Help us take care of the fight. Not only that, Alex, excuse me, we're on offense here for these men. We are filing offensive actions. We are going after it. We have impeachment articles that are drafted and it goes so much deeper. Come be a part of this fight. Join in the fight to save America through Condemned USA with great warriors like Norm Patus. I totally agree. Let's explain something again to the listeners. I know they get this. The globalists are big powerful banks in BlackRock, but they use communism as their main ideology. Maoism at the colleges, Black Lives Matter, Antifa. They admit that's their operating system.

47:15 They're not communists, they're just using a communist model. They are saying they want to outlaw conservative and populist demonstrations. They're saying the main threat is conservative Catholics that basically commit no crime. I mean there's no evidence. They're saying they're sending Homeland Security to school boards where people say I don't want my child taught they're evil because they're white or they're a Christian or taught transgenderism. They are literally saying, I played tons of the clubs, that we're going to use Homeland Security now on the American people, anybody that questions elections. They've indicted the president for questioning an election. While they said he stole it with the Russians with no evidence. So this is a very dangerous time and we should support the prisoners. We should get Trump in to pardon them. He says he will. But bigger than that is we don't just need congressional hearings on this that are starting. We need to make those hearings about January 6th and who's really guilty.

48:10 They're scared of that. They're scared of hearing showing how the feds were involved and how they provocateured it and how they stood down. Make the hearings about that and that's how you get these prisoners released. You know, when they had the video that it was coming out of the Q shaman being invited in by the police and doing nothing wrong and tell everybody to be calm, they had to release him from prison. So I'm saying it's going to be cutting the head off the snake politically by exposing January 6th. And this is the perfect vehicle for those hearings. And we're very close. You know, I know you know who they are. You've been on their shows. But I contacted Steve Bannon last night, this morning, Jack Posobiec, a bunch of other great patriots. I've sent them your numbers.

48:47 Trent Evans and others. We need to make this a big deal. We're very close to hearings on this, and that's what they fear. But we've got to do this because they're establishing Guantanamo, USA for us now. This is a maximum effort issue. Alex, I'm sure Norm would agree with this, that the judges have taken this extra judicial notice of what happened with the select committee. And the 117th Congress' select committee on January 6th has reported a countless number of lies and completed a narrative shift that what actually happened on January 6th to suit their interests of what's happening now. We're seeing now the unravelling or the further down the road version of this.

49:28 And until the 118th Congress provides something that judges can actually look at and have an extradition notice of those matters, that's what's going to stand as what is the relevant evidence that they're basing this theology on of Congress. This is some kind of a cultist movement by the MAGA people that we were trying to overthrow the federal government on January 6th. And there is no way any reasonable person could think that the most armed populace on the face of the planet in history would attempt to take on the largest military industrial complex ever on the face of this globe with plastic flagpoles and megaphones. Somebody please explain that.

50:09 Well, that's right. You're not mostly peaceful burning down $2 billion and killing dozens of people. And Travis, you're a J6er. You've been in, you were there. I was there. I, you know, look, I said, look, you get in the building, you should stand for the crime that you committed. If it's a crime fine, so be it. And, but equitable justice, right? I want to be treated just the same. You know, people have brought up a lot of different people in this. Ray Epps is a big topic. And I will say this about that. I think a lot of people should have been treated just like Mr. Epps was treated. Let's just leave it there. Wouldn't that be fair? Because if that's what deconduct and that's what's... Well he helped ram signs into people. He said go to the building. He texted his family that he orchestrated it and then he gets nothing and then Joe Biggs gets... Class B misdemeanor, sir. Well I've talked to folks that have been in these handcuffs. You cannot, I mean it literally can make you have your arms rot off. It can kill the circulation. Total torture. Norm?

51:03 You know, I interrupted, I stepped away from him because I just got a call from Oakdale and I told them I'd call him right back. So it's a prison official responding to my inquiries about Owen for the first time in two weeks. Hold on, do this, do this, do this. Call him right back. We're going to go to break Norm, we'll come back to you, okay? Yep. of the other efforts since we're on this topic. We wrote a document last week, which is called the US Department of State's response to the COVID-19 pandemic. a document called the weaponization of justice and produced it from Condemned USA. Our writers worked on this, our volunteers worked on this, our staff members worked on this, and we delivered this document, hand delivered them, bound them and hand delivered them. Thank God for some of the members of Congress that have helped push this effort. We have members in Congress that have agreed to carry our impeachment articles. Those are available, Alex, you can look at them at impeachdc.com.

51:57 This effort is real. What we're doing is real. The offense is where we have to go. The American people will continue receiving bludgeonings from this government. The beatings will continue until morale improves mentality. If all we're doing is holding up the shield, we must strike with the sword. And when I say that, I mean in our courts and I mean in our congressional system, our system of government. We have to learn to wield the Constitution. Trenton Evans, stay there. We'll come right back. And then Norm's finally got a call from Owens Prison. All right, Trent Evans is the head of condemned USA doing a splendid job exposing the gulag archipelago being set up in America. He spent 21 days in jail set up as well. So he's got skin in the game. Condemned USA on Twitter, condemned USA dot com. Norm Pattis, Owen's lawyer and Joe Biggs's lawyer, just got a call from the prison. Owen's disappeared for weeks in solitary confinement. We should have an update. We have a

52:48 another great individual coming here about victimology and how to transcend it. Mark England coming up, and we get him on late, we'll push into the next hour with the other guests and all those part of the fourth hour. So everything's gonna be on time here. But we're waiting for Norm to give us info. Trenish, you got cut off there. What else should we impart to people? But you see the heat we're putting on them with Congress and Matt Gaetz saying, where's Owen Schroer? Why can't he talk to his lawyer? Why is he in solitary confinement? And then now, 48 hours later, now the president's finally calling his lawyer. It shows the heat's having an effect. Now they can get Owen Schroer and get Joe Biggs, they can get us all. Alex, you know, it sure shows it's people like you that have kept this thing at the ball in the air. The ball has to stay in the air. We have to keep the eye on the target. We have to keep the American public aware of what's happening here. They have to know what's happening because if they can sweep it under the rug, if they can push it behind the curtain, people like you are not exposing this. It will only get worse.

53:47 worse than it is. So think about how bad it is and they know that we're watching. So Dominic Pozzola, let me paint a quick picture of Dominic Pozzola, one of the other proud boys involved here. Dominic Pozzola, after his diesel therapy with dozens of places, locations from while he was on pretrial, after sentencing goes back to DC, then goes to Philly, gets off a plane from Philly at KC, Oklahoma City facility, and is told that he's a domestic terrorist. Instantly cast into the hole, 14 days in the hospital, a whole, not allowed to communicate with his wife or his daughters or his mother or especially his attorney. What if you need to talk to your attorney? Not allowed. This is insanity in America. Then he's told that he's going to allow to make one phone call to his one person, contacts his wife, and then he's told 30 more days until he can communicate again. Another phone call, 15 minutes, 30 days from then. Then he's sent to Bettner, North Carolina. This place is a joke of a facility. And let's be clear again.

54:42 This is, it's all the same. They are setting the precedent and saying this is for all of us. Continue. Yeah. So Bettner, North Carolina, the kitchen facility has literally caved in in the roof. There's no hot water in the facility. They're not getting their three hots and hot as it's told in prison. They're getting two sandwiches a day and a piece of fruit. That's the deal. That's what's happening. The sandwiches are coming. to

55:24 prescribed medications for Dominic Pizzola, also a Marine, United States veteran, who has now been denied medical treatment and been denied his prescribed medications that were approved by the Bureau of Prisons. Again, Alex, these stories go on and on. And that's why I keep saying there's a heartbreak here that should resonate with the American people. And if you can't recognize how horrible this is, and what the effort is. I totally agree, but they admit on MSNBC this is what for all of us and again the worst thing is the box handcuffs of the diesel. When you're on a truck 18-16 hours a day and they don't take these off this is illegal this is torture.

56:06 Yeah, so absolutely. Listen, if this were happening to people in Gitmo, and I'm going to remind the American people something, Alex, and I think you'll appreciate this. When we signed on for the Patriot Act, we were a nation in mourning. We were a nation paying pain. We witnessed after 9-11 with the terror attacks that happened and brought down the Twin Towers. There was people in this country that went, hell, I don't care if they waterboard some person from whatever country in Gitmo, right? And we abandoned two important things. We abandoned our constitution and we abandoned our Christian guiding principles in this nation. And that's how we got here today, because it was only a matter of time until they turned it on someone. And the sad reality is, is this less community out here that's chattering for this, is looking at this as a, hey, great, they're getting those MAGA people off the streets that I hate, those freedom of speech, 2A kind of people.

56:54 Though they don't realize it's only a matter of time until it comes for them, right? This is pure intimidation for the election. Trent Evans, Norm is off the phone with the president. He has an Owen update after weeks of no contact. We'll come back. Norm will finish up. You'll finish up. Then we're going to air a little promo while we get Mark England in here to talk about the big picture and how we transcend this. Stay with us. All right, an incredible individual. Mark England's going to be in studio with us. We'll push it into the next hour. The next big huge host will be joining us as well. We'll push that into the fourth hour. So nobody's getting robbed of their time here today. The Maria Z, they're doing internet power outages, everything in Australia, New Zealand. She's going to be joining me in the last 45 minutes of the fourth hour. Then Owen will be back hosting the third hour. Sorry, he's in federal prison, the judge said, for questioning the election in

57:43 the sentencing document. We haven't heard from him in weeks. Solitary confinement we confirmed from sources. We'll leave it at that. Finally, Norm, while we're on air, gets a call from his client, Owen Schroer, in Louisiana. Give us an update on what happened. It wasn't actually from Owen, but it was from the prison itself. And it was the executive. I've been trying to get answers from him by email. They wanted to confirm that I was in fact his lawyer and asked for information, including bar registration numbers. And I said, I'd like a legal call. Can I get one? Yes, when can you do so? I said, today would be great. Tomorrow would be OK. Well, we're on legal holiday today and tomorrow. So we've got a legal call arranged for Tuesday. I said, people from around the country are asking about his whereabouts, even members of Congress.

58:23 What do I tell him? Is he all right? He's in our custody. He's fine. That's all I know. All right. I want to get updates from you as this unfolds and from Trenas Evans, CondemnUSA investigator, CondemnUSA, CondemnUSA.com. Thank you both gentlemen. And again, this is a beta test for all of us. So we're all Owen Troyer, we're all Joe Biggs. We are all the Oath Keepers and of course the totally innocent Stuart Rhodes. Thank you so much, gentlemen. Thank you. Thank you very much, Alex. Thank you for having me, Alex. I appreciate you. Thank you, brother. They're trying to indict me. We're all in this together. I know I gave Bannon one of your numbers. I gave them to him. I guess I had the liberty to do that. And Jack Posobiec, all of them are all over this. And they're talking right to the president. And so we'll leave it at that. Thank you, gentlemen. Thank you, Alex. You're welcome. Thank you. And I mean the real president. All right. They bit off more than they can chew on this. OK, we're going to air a couple of promos here while I bring in the next guest.

1:04:13 leading a full frontal assault on the satanic New World Order. Tune in at infowars.com forward slash show and share the link today. All right, now we're going to talk about solutions. People ask how I battle tyranny and don't stop. because I see all the victories we have when I don't stop and I take every attack as an opportunity instead of saying I'm a victim, I'm a loser. And Mark England's a top self-help coach and does a great job, has a lot of friends of mine that we share, got a chance to meet him and hang out with him this week. And you know, also talk to him more. I've watched a lot of his work, Mark England, and you can go to enlifted.me

1:05:01 and more. He is a co founder and head coaching of enlifted. He's been researching, presenting and coaching. on the power of words and stories the past 16 years. Mark holds a master's degree in education and was a elementary school PE teacher before getting into personal development. And he's with us now in studio to talk about transcending the victim mentality. Great to have you here, buddy. Great to be here, Alex. May I begin with some gifts, sir? Oh, sure. OK. How many times, if you had to take a guess, have you said that you are InfoWars is the tip of the spear in the InfoWars? Not me, but the whole show, what we do is tip a spear. The enemy sees it, is that yes? Yeah, this is a gift. Well, thank you. It's beautiful. This is not an arrowhead. That is a spearhead. Beautiful. Thank you very much. Where'd this come from? It's from Missouri. That's cool. It's from Missouri. It's either Chickasaw or Osage Indian. And it's not an arrowhead. It is a spearhead. I love it. Well, thank you, sir. It's beautiful. Yeah, my pleasure. I'm gonna take it out here on air.

1:06:01 So, wow, we're in quite a situation right now. Yeah, man. Here's the spearhead right here. I appreciate that. How would you describe this current time we're in right now? Stressful. Yeah, stressful. People are jammed in an upregulated stress state for a variety of reasons on a variety of levels. And the thing that we do, so thank you for that bio and thank you for having me here. Oh, thanks for coming. Yeah, my pleasure. The thing that we specialize in is educating people about the power of their words and stories, how their language, and when I say language, we'll talk about that a lot,

1:06:37 how our language influences our language, our internal dialogue and our external dialogue. What we think, what we say, what we write. And the long short of it is that most people's language is working against them. And we are running individual and collective chronic victim mentalities. Is it a good time to share the definition of the victim mentality? Okay, most people have never heard the definition of the victim mentality, much less written it down. And Alex was right, I am a teacher to the core. And it's the main enemy, because I always hear this, I see it organically. When you think you're losing and you're a victim, you respond like that. They've got you, they want us to moralize. No, no, we are overcomers. A thousand percent. If you want to get all Uri Besman off about it, so it's everybody's heard

1:07:26 divide and conquer, it's actually confuse and conquer. Confuse, divide, and conquer. And then, shout out to Yuri, confuse, demoralize, then divide, then conquer. So the numbers are 30, 50, 80, everybody, 30, 50, 80. If you've got a pen and a piece of paper, grab it and write those numbers down. We remember 30% of what we hear, 50% of what we write, 80% of what we turn around teach share or explain most people's right when we give when we share that's what what we do in giving makes us richer thousand percent and we've worked

1:08:03 The listeners we are participating in this info war we're participating in the whole thing more so than then most people would Would understand and it comes down to education. So I'm gonna recite the definition of the victim mentality twice I'm gonna do it slow the first time and then I'm gonna speed it up and put some polish on it the second time and I invite you to write it down magic things happen when pen hits paper here it is on slow. This is a verbatim definition of the victim mentality. The victim mentality is an acquired personality trait where a person tends to regard himself or herself as the victim of the negative actions of others even in the absence of clear evidence. The victim mentality depends on a habitual thought process

1:08:59 and attributions. That's slow, here's fast. The victim mentality is an acquired personality trait where a person tends, it's a tendency everybody, sometimes it's up, sometimes it's down, a person tends to regard himself or herself as the victim, or herself, as the victim of the negative act, get it, as the negative victim of the negative actions of others, even in the absence of clear evidence, the victim mentality depends Circle that word on a habitual, underline that word, thought process and attributions. That second sentence is right between the eyes, right where it belongs. The victim mentality depends. It has to have a habitual, which accurately implies duration and addiction, thought. Yeah, people can get addicted to their victim mentality. You ever seen it? They love it. Yeah.

1:09:45 Thought process, what's a thought process? Glad you asked. It's the way you use your words repeatedly and then attributions. What's an attribution? It's a characteristic. And the main characteristic that we focus on at Enlifted is besides the words is our breathing. We're known as the language people, that's cool. It's nice to be known for anything. We might as well be known as the language and the breathing people. And push comes to shove, it's about the breath. I love squiggles, I love sounds, I love words and helping people use them in a more constructive, powerful, considerate, a

1:10:21 Communities and we can get to the whole world and that undercuts the the foundation of these weirdo commie nerds It's a revenge of the nerds revenge of the nerds Alex. You think you think? Adam Schiff was getting that You know high-fiving everybody no getting that cheerleader tale in high school. No, it's it's they made four of those movies They were trying to tell us okay revenge of the nerds Nerds in paradise, nerds in love, nerds the next generation. And feeling like a nerd or an outsider, that's part of the flavor of the victim mentality. And then they organized all the nerds that feel like outsiders would be the ruling class that now hates everybody else that's operating in a more normal way. But you're more of a scientist when it comes to this. You've studied it deeply and been very successful. To me, it's very simple. It's pattern recognition. Correct. I remember being like 10 years old

1:11:13 And I'd go to the hardware store or I would be in traffic when my mom wasn't around, or when she was there too, or we would be in a 7-Eleven and women were hitting on my dad. Everybody was high-fiving him and just like, and I said, dad, why is everybody liking you so much? He said, because I'm positive and I'm happy and they resonate. It's pattern recognition. You've got to see the good and promote that, block off the negative and deal with it and attack, but don't be a victim. You're an overcomer to it. And then just start programming your brain to see the victory. A thousand percent. And you want to play a language game real quick? Let's do it. Read that. Overhead shot, guys.

1:11:51 How are things ever going to change? When you say that, that's the spell. A definition of a spell, folks, not mine, Webster's. The definition of a spell is a word or a combination of words of great influence. So you say things are gonna change. Exactly. And so when you say that, how are things ever gonna change, what kind of picture do you make? Let me guess, it's big and scary, and then the energy is like, oh, right? And then you take out one word, read that, Look at the difference. How are things going to change? Yeah, so we take out one word. We take out the ever. How can ever says there never exactly exactly it turns a perfectly good question into a statement of I'm screwed stress response breath gets trapped in the chest and it's called amygdala hijack. Look it up. Breath gets trapped in the chest. You get fixated on the problem. Your listening skills

1:12:35 And that's why they try to keep us in a fear state. And to use a fear state to begin with that, I'm not saying I'm the toughest guy around, but I've taken out 300 pound guys when I was younger. We started to fight Dallas is rough. But I remember when I said I was being attacked, I said, I'm going to win and I'm turning it loose. That was an order to the brain. So that's even a stress response. You can say I'm victorious in this and that's when you are. And if you actually commit, if you've got, you're not, you're in okay shape, your body doesn't give out, you're going to win. And because they're the attacker, you know, they're doing it for some of the reasons they don't know what they're going into. But just from a primitive level, when you say I'm going to, I'm going to crush this person, it happens. But it has to be real. I'm ordering myself to destroy you. And I'm saying that from a negative base. Imagine with a positive thing we can do.

1:13:33 You know, when you take these words out of your language, and I promise you they're in there, thinks and maybes and guesses, I guess I should probably get some InfoWars supplements. Take out the guess and the maybe. I'm getting some InfoWars supplements. Action. Yeah, exactly. So there's a difference, everybody. Our words matter. And guess what? Your story, your identity majorly matters to how you feel about yourself. Words like one day. should, almost like possibly might, could, maybe. Yoda says don't try, do. This is how you keep yourself on the couch and this is how you get your ass run over by nefarious forces.

1:14:12 Luke Skywalker says, I'm going to try it. He says, no, don't try it, do it. Exactly. It's in the culture. It's been baked into the culture. And you know what? When we slow down the story, this is part of the solution. The faster the story goes, the harder it is to change. And since we're talking about it, you know what y'all's mindset is? We have a definition of mindset here at Unlifted. We've done a very good job of simplifying the conversation about mindset. and gamifying it. And if you want to ask Google, you'll get 17 definitions of mindset on the first page alone. The enlifted definition of mindset is it's the story that you tell yourself. Well, that's right, because I mean, there's always going to be negative things to deal with. But if it's like lifting weights, you don't see it as a bad thing. It's just good thing you get stronger. You never do it. You end up dying from being sedentary. And so some people have all these great things happening, and they still look at the negative. Oh, this happened, that happened. No, just those are things you overcome or even just push the side, focus on the positive.

1:15:06 Exactly, and when you know how to use your words to stay focused on the positive and keep the drama down and breathe well. Emotional gas tank, you know this better than anybody. You've been doing this 16 years, man. You're a G. You're more than 16, B. Excuse me, you're 26, I'm 16. You've been doing this a long time. How important is the emotional gas tank when it comes to having a long-term goal and getting things across the finish line? I've found... Dude, it's a big deal. If you get caught in one negative thought or one thing makes you mad, and which happens to me all the time, I'm not perfect, then it projects the whole day. And I've got to learn to like even bad news. I say, well, that's good news because whatever. And then it just moves on. It doesn't program me for the day. So I never get negative and never, you know, get pissed off. I can go 15 at 20 hours. But if I get pissed off early in the morning, the day's over.

1:15:54 A thousand percent and that's for you, that's for me. It's called a thought train for a reason. You know, like you said, one negative thought shows up and we attach to it and the breath gets trapped in the chest. What do you think the next thought is going to be? It's going to be something of a similar nature. Very rarely does somebody think, man, I can never get ahead. And then the next thought after that is, wow, I've got such great friends. It doesn't work like that. It's a thought train wreck, actually. And most people are not paying attention to their words. They're not paying attention to their thoughts. And everything the corporate media does is to make us as depressed as possible. A thousand percent, because when you're in that upregulated state, You're not going to be a contender in the world. You're not going to be part of the decision making. They want you negative out of the decision making process. A thousand percent. Keep going. I got a stop sign for you.

1:16:34 Now tell us the story. First let's do Abracadabra. Oh okay good perfect. So when I say Abracadabra Alex and I know we talked about this at dinner and you've watched some of those. Guys before we do this pull up Looney Tunes, Abracadabra, Hocus Pocus it's when these Bugs Bunny's fighting the vampire. But then he knows the magic word, he keeps like crushing it. Try to find that clip, Bugs Bunny, Abracadabra, it'll come up, sorry go ahead. All good. When I say folks, when I say Abracadabra, what do you all immediately think of? Say it, even though I can't hear you, say it out loud. Magic, right? Some of them went to Steve Miller Band, somebody else goes to Steve Miller Band.

1:17:11 We're gonna reach out and grab you. When I say abracadabra, people think magic, and guess what? It's way cooler than that. You can look this up. Abracadabra is Aramaic, and it translates to with my word I create or with my words I influence. And the teachers of the day, they knew the power of their thinking, their speaking, and their writing. Well, the Egyptians before that, the translation is, so let it be written, so let it be done. Exactly, same thing. That's Abracadabra. Yeah. So that's the movie Ten Commandments, also the Bible. So they would write it and they said, well, that meant it was real. So let it be written. So let it be done. Yeah. And to let it be spoken. So let it be done. Yes. People 150 years ago said we're going to make airplanes and spaceships.

1:17:53 and they're gonna land vertically on the moon. It's done now. Abracadabra. Abracadabra. So it is spoken, so it shall be, so it is written, so it shall be. Those are all the same thing under the same umbrella of, hey, your words are powerfully influencing you for better and for worse. Most people's language is working against them, Alex. These are things they didn't learn. Did anybody? That's why I think more and more I shouldn't respond to the enemy stuff, which is my failure. I should do it 20% of the time instead of 80% and set our own words, our own ideas. That's what my new book's about, The Great Awakening, part two of The Great Reset, is instead of attacking them and saying they're wrong, which we should do some, we need to focus on what we're building. 1,000%. I've got definition of a spell, word or a combination of words of great influence. I've got nine spells plus breath.

1:17:11 We're gonna reach out and grab you. When I say abracadabra, people think magic, and guess what? It's way cooler than that. You can look this up. Abracadabra is Aramaic, and it translates to with my word I create or with my words I influence. And the teachers of the day, they knew the power of their thinking, their speaking, and their writing. Well, the Egyptians before that, the translation is, so let it be written, so let it be done. Exactly, same thing. That's Abracadabra. Yeah. So that's the movie Ten Commandments, also the Bible. So they would write it and they said, well, that meant it was real. So let it be written. So let it be done. Yeah. And to let it be spoken. So let it be done. Yes. People 150 years ago said we're going to make airplanes and spaceships.

1:17:53 and they're gonna land vertically on the moon. It's done now. Abracadabra. Abracadabra. So it is spoken, so it shall be, so it is written, so it shall be. Those are all the same thing under the same umbrella of, hey, your words are powerfully influencing you for better and for worse. Most people's language is working against them, Alex. These are things they didn't learn. Did anybody? That's why I think more and more I shouldn't respond to the enemy stuff, which is my failure. I should do it 20% of the time instead of 80% and set our own words, our own ideas. That's what my new book's about, The Great Awakening, part two of The Great Reset, is instead of attacking them and saying they're wrong, which we should do some, we need to focus on what we're building. 1,000%. I've got definition of a spell, word or a combination of words of great influence. I've got nine spells plus breath.

1:18:39 that we'll read on here if you're... And by the way... And this is pointing us in the right direction. This is not magic, this is archetypes. When you read the WikiLeaks, the left is all doing Luciferian spells, which is their intention, their words for evil, but the Bible says what two people agree upon on earth will be made in heaven. Thousand percent. If churches, if you got... Remember, we're eliminating, we're not the Illuminati, they're the counterfeit. Rudolf Steiner said it, any force that seeks to constrict or control is by definition Luciferian. And when am I ever going to get the credit that I deserve? That is a combination of words that negatively influences me. Big picture scary stuff. Yeah, you're never going to get the credit. Exactly.

1:19:17 And look, it's usually even, they're super successful, but they're still pissed. They could be in charge of a country, they feel like they've been screwed. That's because they hate themselves. That's because their victim mentality has been internalized so deeply that they're now projecting their internal... Everybody told me to read Rudolph Steiner. I'd never read him until two years ago. It is wild. People said, you're saying everything Rudolph Steiner said. I literally had dreams and visions of what his books say. Then I read it like, wow, this is pretty much what I'm saying, a different interpretation. Yeah, and churches, if you get a Very rare. I've been I've been I've been to church very rarely do people write down their prayers and very rarely does a does a group of people have the same set of prayers that they're using

1:20:01 And there's power in it. That's what they do in the lockdowns, wanting churches to stop. Majorly. And then if you took it, because you're not taking or investing your, you're, excuse me, or spending your, you're, you're, you're not taking or spending, you're investing your time. We're going to do this in a second. You're going to see it to get the word, get the breath in between each sentence, each prayer, each spell, then it comes from, it goes from this mental exercise thing where I would really like to feel more of this, to it brings it into the is-ness, the rest of the body comes online and it's energized and magnetized. Because God said we're made in the image of God, we're creators. We are incredible creators and we can create, we can create the problem, we can create the solution,

1:20:47 and all the other things in between. And most people are. We're part of this thing. That's the scary thing. And that's why they want us victims so we don't think we're part of it. Because even if you want to sit in the bleachers, you're on the field. Most people's language is tricking them into being innocent bystanders in their life. That is existentially terrifying. They will be in a chronic upregulated state. Their breath will be trapped and then the news comes along with the next thing to sign up for, be afraid of and everybody... We're talking about stuff the brain programmers, the soul programmers don't want you to know. They're obsessed with it but they use it for the dark side. We're talking about the power of using your will. Talking about abracadabra, here's a little Bugs Bunny for you.

1:22:03 It's Marina Abranović. I am a vampire. Oh yeah? Well abacadabra, I'm an umpire. Hocus pocus, I'm a bat. Okay, I'm a bat too. Abacadabra. You wouldn't hit a bat with glasses on, would you? Hocus pocus, now I crush you. Abacadabra. Peek-a-boo! Peek-a-boo! Abracadabra! Peek-a-boo! Peek-a-boo! Abracadabra!

1:22:56 All right, Mark England's our guest in lifted.me. Continuing here with the will, the mind, the direction you want to go, what the Bible says, what two of us agree upon on earth, done in heaven, and what one person agrees on is a connection to God. They want us to just think we're victims. How did you wake up to this and just continue on here? I thought I was a tough guy in high school. I wrestled, got into Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu in the late 90s, started fighting MMA, kickboxing, did okay on the regional scene, and I was like, I'm gonna move to Thailand for a year, which turned into 10, which still sounds a little bit strange to say I was over there for a decade. And so six months after I moved over, there was a big deal. I had three going away parties. I only had my passport for two years.

1:23:44 move over there and six months in I'm having my second knee surgery and darkness descends and I use that fail or what I thought was a fail at the time as it was the final piece of damning evidence in a case that I was secretly making against myself, Alex, that I was a loser and I was somehow doomed to fail and there was something, something terribly wrong with me and and I turned myself into a grown-ass man baby that's a technical term and I didn't laugh for an entire year and and it was the first time I was talking about this on the Luke story podcast yesterday it was the first time I had ever I remember wisdom showing up in my life I looked I was 27 and I looked down the path and I was

1:24:27 And I was like, are you going to be complaining about this flash in the pan fight career when you're 55? Is that what you're going to do? And I saw that version of me. Yeah, it's like guys all we're talking about was their college football career. Dude, that's not fun. That doesn't age well. It aged terribly. And I saw that version of me, Alex. And I was like, I'll take anything but that, man. And at the time, I was living in Bangkok. And I went down to a cleansing fasting resort where you pay them to not eat. It's a great business model. And one night when I was down there was a guy named Barry Musgrave who was doing a workshop on emotional detoxification. And I saw him turn a woman's, it was an embarrassing breakup for sure.

1:25:10 And the spell that held the whole thing together, everybody, the word or combination of words that- The mind control. Exactly. Self-induced, self-inflicted, okay, was he did that to me. And he had her repeat that sentence. He did that to me. He did that to me. So she's looking at that one sentence, no need to go anywhere else, and he had, so everyone else is looking at it too, and then he said that last word, take out that last word, that me, and put in himself. And it was such a radical departure from the story that she'd been telling herself every single day for four and a half years. Yeah, she's not what he did to her. That's him. Exactly. What they do to us is doesn't define us. Exactly. It's what defines them. And he broke that spell with one word and it was such... Well, that's what I told the judges in these show trials. I said, you're convicted. You may think you're getting me now. You're convicting yourself in front of the world, which they have. A thousand percent. People are like, oh, he's so confident. No, they were, no, you're not defeating me. You're defeating yourself.

1:26:08 That's the nature of the victim mentality. It will self implode eventually. If we get our way, I would prefer Star Trek over the Borg, which I'm very happy to go into the difference between the two. She took out the me and put in himself. She was so addicted. to telling herself the woe is me story and then blaming all men because of it. Hadn't been in a relationship for four and a half years after that. It was a clunky delivery. This is exactly how she said it. She goes, he did that to himself? And it goes up at the end, it's called up talk. And then the breath unlocks. That's a major talking point for us. She goes.

1:26:49 He did, he did do that to himself. And then she starts talking about all the worst things that happened to him. And then she finally goes, that was never gonna work out anyway. That guy was actually really weird. And I go, I was like, that right there, that was one of the coolest things I'd ever seen ever. And I had- He was freeing herself. That's exactly right. And that is, this is the, this is the, eternal inside job is us dismantling pre-existing victim mentalities. And that's how they trick us and through Christ we overcome. Skip this break coming up. I'm not perfect, but I learned very early on as soon as I got rejected or as soon as I got my ass kicked or as soon as things were I had this thing I do it more I gotta defeat it I gotta I look back now

1:27:34 All the trauma is what made me even stronger. The Nietzschean thing, it's like, in fact I'm like too easy now, there's not enough trauma and I'm not a masochist, but it's like, you get stronger when you decide to get stronger. Exactly, it's when you lean in, and most people are not leaning in, they're trying to get away from it, or even worse, it's being coddled. A lot of people are It's for in a lot of ways it's the victim Olympics out there who's got the worst story whoever's got the most downtrodden story they're winning they're winning and they make and everybody loses that way. The more valuable you are but you really aren't being given value you're being chained to the system and the

1:28:11 and the social credit score when they do that. Exactly, and then that's where you're getting your attention. So now you've got a group of people that are drama and trauma bonding together. And you've got- And they're going to be led by the head conductor who's their political controller. A thousand percent. I mean, how much has the victim mentality been the tip of their spear for color revolutions? Did Hitler do that? Did Mao do that? Absolutely. Absolutely. It's and and that is where a tremendous part of our power lies. It's it's we explain. It doesn't mean we don't oppose them. We just we're victorious. We are victorious. And we're also in a process of telling ourself a better story about

1:29:01 about ourself as in no one's going to come no one's no one's coming everybody no one's coming to save you from your own victim mentality that is yours and yours alone to do and Tony Robbins says it if you're not willing to take control over your mindset there are multi-billion dollar industries that are going to do that for you And the underlying victim mentality is the thing that these control freak weirdo nerds hook into and then shape the direction of the masses. And the good news is that we know what to do about that.

1:29:39 Wow, so you've got an exercise here. What is it? Yep, you want to do it? Breathing? Okay, so the moral of the story is the faster the story goes folks, the harder it is to change. So you've talked to somebody who's been in a very stress-related, upregulated state. They're talking a mile a minute, their breath is trapped in their chest. It's like talking to a brick what? Wall. Wall. Can't get a word in. What? Edgewise. So the faster someone's story goes, and I'm talking to myself and you and everybody, the harder it is to change. So one of the things that we can do is slow it down. And look at the words.

1:30:15 fastest way to slow it down is to get it on paper, get the words on paper, whether it's where you want to go in your life or the scary stuff that happened back then that's still rattling around in there. Get the words on paper and then you can do some really cool stuff. So Alex, these are, I got, I got a set for me. I got a set for you. I took the liberty of guessing that these would be things that you would want to have happen. What if InfoWars stays on? on air for the next 10 years? What if the global orchestrated crises are averted? What if all the children are protected and loved? What if the globalists start loving themselves? What if humanity, and when you what if things, it's a very slick way, smooth way of socializing big ideas, like, oh yeah, what if? What if the spell of the collective victim mentality is broken? What if the breadth of humanity unlocks? What if health, love, beauty, truth, and strength are the norm? What if humanity's already won?

1:31:08 And then we say those and the enemy knows that we have one. That's why they're doing this. Exactly. So I read it and I breathe. Yes, let's do it. Read one and breathe. So this is important with the breath, everybody. You want to fall in and a full out. I'll let all the air come out, the exhales, the exit. I'm gonna breathe with you, you run them, everybody else follow us along and let's cast a spell for the children, how's that? And again, we're not talking about an occultic thing, this is, Arnie and Aidan and us, they have their dark magic form of this, it's secret. We're the opposite side, this is the counterbalance to that. All right, what if Infowars stays on the air for the next 10 years?

1:31:54 What if the global orchestrated crisis are averted? Good pace. What if the children are protected and loved? What if the globalists start loving themselves? That's like Christ said, pray for your enemies. Correct. What if humanity gently releases its ancestral inherited trauma? Pull in, all out. What if the spell of the collective victim mentality is broken? Good lungs, man. Oh yeah. What if the collective breadth of humanity unlocks?

1:32:40 Happening right now. What if health, love, beauty, truth, strength are the norm? What if humanity is already one? Great delivery on that last one. You're so positive. But the point is, those are powerful things and now we're taking control of our body away from their programming. And now I already feel high from just 10 deep breaths. Absolutely. And what does the picture look like, Alex? What does your mental imagery look like after doing that? Looks like euphoria and victory. And what does the energy feel like? Victory. Just solid victory. Abracadabra with with my word with our words we create and therein lies the solution to 80% that's a low number of the problem and Well, we have the resources and the technology and the ancestral will and then the will to carry it out We've got unlimited potential thousand percent thousand percent and most I understand I lived this for 30 years most people fall into the trap of thinking that their problems whether it's

1:33:44 personal or collective are so big and complicated that the solution has to be as equally big and complicated. And I'm here to say, no, that's not the case. 85% of the time, that's a low number two. Very easy. Just love God and then love God's mission for you and reject everything the mainstream media says. It's really, and this is how you do it. So it's one thing to, okay, so let's reject all of that. How do we reject that? How do I reject that in a practical way that this is available everywhere? You gotta be healthy, you gotta be strong, you gotta be a leader, you gotta lead by action and example. Pick up a pen, write it down. You got your phone on you?

1:34:24 Oh yeah, he gave me one of these. Tell me about the, everybody's wondering what the stop sign is here. I'll get to that in one second. You'll absolutely love this. Not Today victim mentality sticker. So you, I've heard you talk about many times, you know, taking what they put out and then turning it back in on them. I'm driving, driving in Richmond, Virginia, and somebody's got a Not Today patriarchy sticker on their car. And I was like, huh, huh. Not today, victim mentality. That sounds pretty cool. And then I started thinking about what that would look like. And then I saw it. This is before the stop sign showed up. Something cool and spooky is happening here, folks. And then that's me. Am I right there?

1:35:11 Not a red shot right here. Not today victim mentality. You're just you're people are already putting these around you're gonna start to see more and more of these around interesting places so yeah I live 10 minutes outside of a one-stop light town in the middle of Virginia and for four years so I've been listening to you for 15 years buddy thanks for having me on this is not and and so So I put those stickers on that stop sign at the end of my road about four years ago and it made me smile every time I drove out. And then one day about six months ago... Somebody had decided to shoot it up and run it over and I thought hmm. That's interesting So I may or may not have so those stickers info wars calm Alex Jones is right, and I'm so upset they attacked it hell yeah, they did I May or may not have drank a six-pack again this and gone to the end of the road and yanked it out of the ground and threw it in the back of the truck and then took it back and Our neighbor helped me saw the thing off and and I said I was like a Roman standard dude I said to myself. I'm get this is before I knew Naomi. This is before the the

1:36:13 premiere of The Great Awakening. This is before I had a way to meet you. I was like, I'm getting this thing in Alex Jones's hands. I'm getting it in his hands. And I drove down to Virginia and half the reason was because I'm not flying with that. And now it's here. Sorry. And now it's a new big promotion. That's beautiful. So the attack on the free speech, you didn't take it as a defeat. You turned it into now an image that millions are going to see. Yeah. And that's not being a victim. You take whatever the enemy does and you use it against them. You don't chop them. It's good. Absolutely. That's what it's all about. Well.

1:36:51 Let's continue here educating people because it's totally true that they want to get us down there or depress us I'm not been perfect about dealing with this, but I've just learned You know the biggest thing that gets to me is family stuff people get no old people dying And and because the enemy thinks they attack me It's nothing compared to personal stuff That's all part of the process and I've learned to be positive about it But but the enemy attacking me that that's that's a side issue compared to my personal relationships. That's where you know rubber meets the road but It's all part of the larger process and we've gotta be strong. And being a man and being a woman is about the larger vision and having that internal clock that God gave you, that internal North Star that they can't change. A thousand percent. And then also being a man, being a woman, and gifting the next generation with a better storytelling mechanism, also known as language. Our language is an inheritance, everybody. And that's why they're attacking it. A thousand percent. They're attacking the culture, the language.

1:37:45 Thousand percent and as you if it starts with awareness Educating yourself about what words force you to create the victim mentality whether you like it or not negations projections and soft talk I can quickly go into those things and then also learning what you words to use more of only if you want to stay focused on what's important and keep the drama down and build yourself up in your imagination and keep your it's called self-image and and create feelings of confidence and competence, and then you build those. Yeah, don't let them build your self-image, let God's program for you build it. A thousand percent. That's what I asked God, I said, what is your plan for me? And look at us. Yeah. And then you gift those, the way of using those words to your children. Oh, and by the way, you'll be breathing better. The better you use your words, the more clear, so the way the Ling English language. No, they now know when an egg meets a sperm, literally the attitude and the will of what the parents are thinking at the time is imprinted on it. A thousand percent. It's called epigenetics. It's weird. Look it up.

1:38:44 And also, so the more, the way the English language is used currently right now, we are under a Luciferian spell of separation. Also existentially terrifying. And so it's externalized, it's vague, it's inflammatory, and the ordinary stuff, take all the government conspiracy stuff out of it, the ordinary stuff sounds like my dad always talks to me like a child. If somebody says my dad always talks to me like a child, what kind of picture are they gonna make, Alex? They're going to make a picture of him doing something to them or him not treating them the way that they want to be treated. And then the victim villain mental imagery, how about this? My driving teacher said when I got in the car, so that's projections. She needs to respect me more. He did that to me. When am I going to get the credit from them that I deserve? You're giving them the power. It's an excuse. Oh, 1,000%. And tanking myself in the process and limiting my potential.

1:39:38 That's projections. Negations. My driving teacher said this when I got in the car 30 years ago. I'm still talking about it. Look where you want to go because you're probably going to go there. I was working with this guy in a sales training environment and he goes, I can't keep focusing on my past. And I said, okay, cool. If that's what you can't keep doing, what can you start doing? And he goes, focus on my future more? Because he wasn't used to using those words. It's a little bit awkward learning better words and you'll give yourself a speech embedderment. Shout out, Adam. And then he goes, yeah, I can. And then the breath starts to unlock because when he said, I can't keep focusing on my past, he's looking in the past and not at the good stuff.

1:40:24 And so- And think about how nasty the Globalist are. They know all this and then try to inflict people to screw them up so they don't have to compete with them. I want to be with a bunch of winners. They're going to, like Kennedy said, it raises all ships. 2,000%. And I'm not an overly compassionate person. If anything, I've got a somewhat of a mean streak. And it breaks my heart when children are hit with this. That's the worst. Oh, they take the dreams away. That's evil. I rarely use that word. And then I was like, okay, so if you can't keep focusing on your past, what can you start doing? Focus on my future more. I can focus on my future more. Yeah. And then because he was looking in the direction he wanted to go.

1:41:08 We identified three things that he could do. Go to the Tuesday night meetups, read two books and enroll in the mentorship program. And that dude, this was in 2014, he emailed me nine months later and said, I did those three things and I'm making money and my life has changed and I like myself now. Because guess what? It's real hard for somebody to like themself when their breath is trapped in their chest. Telling themselves a victim-centric story and there's a lot of flavors to it, okay? And their breath is trapped in their chest. And then you expect other people to like being around you. You don't like being around me. It doesn't mean the topography is perfect when you become positive. It means now you can navigate it.

1:41:43 Before you're like a car with no wheels, now you're a four-wheel drive. Exactly. You put the right gas in the right tank and you hit the right address into Google Maps. But don't the globalists get when they mess everybody up and destabilize things, that blows back on them. They think they can just sabotage everybody and then rule over a bunch of losers. That's going to make them losers. They're not leaders. A leader empowers people. If you look at war in history, that's usually the last lesson people learn. when it comes to those kinds of... Well that's right, the new world order is doing desperate things right now. Yeah, for sure. And... Like look at the old smart elites, they're like, libraries, empower humanity, empower everyone, and we'll get an even better cream. No, like, suppress everyone. Yeah, that's gonna work. Because we're the leaders, we're the globalists, you must be our slaves. Yeah, and that's coming from a deeply internalized lack of love. You're not conforming to being our slave, we have to make everybody slaves. Yeah, yeah. And if this thing keeps going in that direction,

1:42:41 Buckminster Fuller, he said, it's going to be a neck and neck race to the very end. And I like those words and I'm using them. And we have it. So here's the formula. OK, Dr. Rocket Science over here is the formula. Humanity plus the victim mentality plus technology equals the Borg. That's where that goes. I'm doing it again. Humanity plus technology plus the victim mentality. This is our lane to change things. equals the Borg. And if you don't know what that is, look it up, it's not fun. We have to decide to build a pro-human future and admit we're amazing, or we're gonna be swallowed up by the transhumanist system, which is just a clean-up model, get rid of us. Thousand percent. And so if you just, if you change one variable in that equation, humanity plus technology plus an architect mentality, that's what we call it when people... We decide the direction of our development. Yes. Say it again, because we have never even talked about this, but we're on the same page. Yep. Say it again.

1:43:36 plus technology. With us being the architect, leads to Valhalla. Yes, yes. That's where we retain our humanness and people are still making babies the old fashioned way and dancing and getting a suntan and laughing. Look up the board. That's the worst. That's the worst. They hate our joy. That's why they say we don't have will. We don't have free will. Yes, we do. They want robots. Don't be the robot. Don't conform. We got to go to break. I'm going to air a little short. piece here that Gregory did on how to manipulate the Abrahamic religions. And then we're going to come back and do one more segment. You got to come back and do, we'll do like a three hour commercial free special next time I come back. Cause I know all this stuff, but so nobody's perfect folks. And I still get caught.

1:44:19 Especially when I get tired of it and work too long. I'm gonna take like actually eight hours I did Russell Brammer two hours with this show doing multiple hours on our interview. I'll be here till seven o'clock I want to do it, but it'll be then when you that's why most people should not work this much So I learned that's when I get weak and negative is when I get exhausted. So there's got to be a balance there, too You know, yeah, can we call it info words info words? Yeah that special segment We're gonna do whatever you want to call it man It's good stuff. Info words. Well we got Mark Russian, I'm sorry, Mark Japanese, Mark Poland, Mark Mexico. Mark Macedonia, Alex. That's right, Mark England's here. I was like, hey it's Mark English, he goes, it's England. That's fun. I let it go though, I'm not that guy. I'm gonna guess your ancestors were English? Some of them, yeah. Alright, we'll be right back. Hour number three. And then we got another big special guest joining us.

1:45:08 In t-minus 15 minutes and then I'll be hosting into the fourth hour stay with us with us with us with us with us with us The dark cabal hurting us like sheep is only able to maintain its power by staying invisible. The most effective way of maintaining invisibility is and always has been the art of dividing the masses. This psychological operation known as divide and conquer has been deployed for all of recorded history because it works, especially with organized religion, which is ruled by dogma rather than a personal relationship with God.

1:45:51 Dogma is a belief doctrine dictated by a church. And if you are born into a dogmatic family, then you are raised to believe their dogma. As a result, you will see all conflicting religious dogma as evil. You will be divided and conquered. The main religions used to divide and conquer mankind are the three Abrahamic religions. Judaic dogma teaches the Jew that they are a member of the chosen race destined to rule over everyone else as a teacher of God's law. Islamic dogma teaches that all of mankind must somehow submit to Islam. And while there are reportedly 40,000 different denominations of Christianity, most Christian dogma teaches that Christians will live in paradise for eternity while everyone else burns in hell.

1:46:41 Many people raised in these religions have been able to personally connect with God and liberate themselves from the divisive dogma. But many others are stuck in group mind-think. They conflate Holy Scripture and a priest class with God and put their faith in a doctrine written by man. It has become the most powerful form of mind control. And so whoever controls the Holy Land controls the world. In Revelation 2.9 of the King James Bible, it warns of the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

1:47:17 We are beginning to see this today with the Zionists, who say they are Jews and are not. With the help of the United Nations, the British Crown, the Vatican, the Nazis, and the Rothschild banking dynasty, the land formerly known as Palestine was conquered with bloodshed, lies, and bureaucracy. The Zionists, who claimed to be secular, declared the land to be Israel, home of the Jews, and successfully thrust the once thriving Middle East back into the Middle Ages. The relatively peaceful region was soon transformed into an unending war zone. Decades of US war crimes radicalized many of the Muslim population into becoming terrorists.

1:48:02 The creation of the State of Israel in 1948 would have never been successful if it were not for the Jewish Holocaust. Even though the Palestinians had nothing to do with it, the Holocaust was effectively used as an emotional excuse for what would otherwise be an illegal land grab. And while few deny that Hitler was murdering Jews, many have pointed out that 6 million would have been logistically impossible. So why the number 6 million? For several decades preceding World War II, the Zionists repeated the mantra, six million, referring to the death of six million Jews. A six followed by six zeros can also be read as 66, which can be read as two-thirds.

1:48:45 Certain radical sects of Judaism and Christianity believe that two-thirds of the Jews must perish. It appears as if the Zionists created Israel as a sacrificial altar to make this happen, repeating the lesser magic mantra of what they want to make manifest. Today we are seeing Zionists begging for genocide, calling out to kill them all, and gaslighting us into thinking there never was a Palestine, while saying we should flatten it and turn it into glass. We are seeing Christian pastors cheer for mass murder, pastors saying that Israel should make the Gaza Strip a parking lot, and several evangelical pastors who speak as if Christ will only return if we provide him the blood sacrifice taught in their extreme dogma.

1:49:33 As Israel pushes forward, radicalized young Muslim men who have had their homes destroyed by American bombs are now spread throughout Western nations. The stage is set for the Holy War and many are willing to murder in the name of their dogmatic beliefs. Extremists of all three religions are being used by the hidden hand to foment this war while the Catholic Church has been making preparations for a one-world religion solution. Divided, we will be conquered. But united, we could learn to live as one, in peace. Reporting for InfoWars, this is Greg Reese. Mark England's our guest of Unlifted.me. We got 10 minutes left before our next guest joins us. Don't let me interrupt. Finish up your great points. So when someone does a mediocre job, I'm telling a story of me right now, and I have. I've done a mediocre job of

1:50:33 dismantling, remediating my victim mentality. You will react differently in the world. So like I said, move to Thailand, my knee falls off. darkness descends in 2018 my buddy and I Mike Bledsoe were at a 10th planet gym Eddie Bravo's style of jiu-jitsu and my jiu-jitsu is it should be in a museum It was late 90s early aughts And so I go in there and we take a couple classes and we roll at the end and I'm rolling one of their good good dudes are all good dudes like good dudes and good dudes and He puts me in something that I thought I knew what it was and

1:51:08 and that I could get out, and I couldn't, and all of a sudden my elbow explodes. And it sounds like Jurassic Park, right? In a jujitsu room, when that stuff happens, when someone gets something like nicely ripped out of socket, they rip my arm out of socket, or I ripped my arm out of socket, it makes a certain noise. And the guy let go, and I look at my elbow, and I look back at him, and I look at my elbow, and I go to my calendar. And I think, okay, well that kettlebell certification on it, yeah, we're not going to do that. We'll take that off. And we've got paleo effects in a couple of, in six weeks. And I can run a booth with one arm. That's okay. Pascal's going to come out and, hey Mike, we need to leave because I done done it. And I did. I got to get a Tommy John to fix my elbow.

1:51:55 Elbow and I just turned what could have been a mountain Alex into a molehill because I knew how to breathe I kept breathing well the whole way through and I knew how to use my words to stay focused on what was happening right here and right now. And that right there, buddy, is the definition or it's the difference, excuse me, it's the difference between a revolution and an evolution. Be very wary of anyone who says we need a revolution. I doubt they understand what they're talking about. Yeah, most of those go bad. They will because a revolution, look, revolve, the whole thing's coming back around. It's in the words and it's in the breath. When someone wants a revolution, a lot of times they've got

1:52:37 A lot of unresolved personal stuff going on. We need to transcend it. Exactly, and a nice slice of righteous anger, and the breath is trapped in the chest. And that goes for, that goes viva la revolution, or any color revolution. It's all coming back around again, including the guillotines, and the people to learn that lesson the hard way. That's like the Who song, meet the new boss, same as the old boss. Yeah, yeah, or the dumb-dumbs that started it. Well, that's Saturn. Exactly. Then there's something called an evolution. So breath trapped in the chest, you're getting a revolution. Let's contextualize this. This is your personal life too, everybody. I worked with a woman who, her and her mom came home and found her dad cheating in the house, kicked him out.

1:53:22 Okay, it was this little girl's world went from flat to round kicked him out of the house and then Divorced and then all through middle school in high school. Her mom would tell her from time to time. You can't trust men They're all dogs. They all want they all just want one thing. You can't can't can't trust them Just can't trust them and then she goes out into her life and she said that she had the same Relationship with five different men because that victim-centric story was stuck in the background breath-taking breath trapped in the chest revolving when and it was pattern recognition she was repeating it a thousand percent history doesn't repeat itself it rhymes that's true and then if we use different words, tell better stories, our breath is going to unlock, descend, and when people's breath, individually and collectively, you're breathing good, low and slow, write those words down, then you get the evolution, then things move forward and they become better and they improve. Do not go for revolution, everybody.

1:54:18 Go for evolution. Do not go for a personal revolution. Go for a personal evolution. Do not go for a collective revolution. Go for a collective evolution. And then to finish up what we're talking about with the churches, if you pick 10, the 10 most powerful statements, prayers, and write them out and have the whole congregation read them, with a breath in between. You were alluding to that. What happens, I'm not literate with the Bible, but when a group of people collectively agree upon something, God says do that. Exactly. And then how much easier do you think that's going to be when... Well it magnifies it. With the breath, yeah. There's the council of Nicaea. Well God created the earth with his breath.

1:55:03 We're talking about powerful forces here, folks. And I first learned about this from Greg Brayden in his Isaiah effect. I believe it was the 14th century, the Council of Nicaea took out books out of the Bible on how to create the feeling of having the thing already done. And if someone is praying or using affirmations and their breath is trapped in the chest, it's not sinking in. You're just gonna get this weird mental thing and you're gonna keep repeating it and you don't feel it. And then somebody says, oh, you need to do it for 108 days till it sinks in your subconscious. No, all my prayers that have come true is when I pray with my dad usually, which I've only done like probably 10 times. and we just it's like in the body you feel it it's like it's happening he just said it i didn't he just said it

1:55:45 If you get your breath in between the words, the spaces, the sentences, then it gets into your body. If the breath is trapped in the chest, remember revolution, the stuff that you want to come out of you, those old feelings of resentment and grief and sadness and anger and bitterness, all that's, all the stuff, if your breath is trapped in your chest, all the stuff that you want to come out of you is not coming out and the stuff that you want to bring in is not getting in. The way people are using English, it is trapping their breath and we're getting the revolution. So we are the fulcrum. We are the fulcrum for this and that's good news.

1:56:26 And yeah, shout out to El Salvador. We're coming down there in a couple months. Max, Max Kaiser, I want to hang out with you. We want to hang out with you. Diamond Hands, we're part of that. And we'll give some workshops down there, El Salvador, because y'all are cool and we're coming. So where would you say the Great Awakening is right now? Because I feel a lot of positive potential, but the enemy's tracking back. How about my great awakening? My great awakening is right here, right now with you. This is wild, man. Wild and fun, and it feels oddly normal. And then my great awakening is with my friends. I surround myself with badasses, people that are using their words in powerful, cool, constructive ways. They're breathing well. That means they're listening.

1:57:08 Okay? If someone's breathing in their chest, they're not listening. Okay? If someone breathes low and slow, they're listening. You get around a group of people that are listening well, that's fun. It creates a breathing well, it creates that warmth. And then, and it, cause it's again, it's an inside out job. And, and, and yeah, so I, I like what's happening. I like what's happening. I didn't expect this whole thing to be easy. Okay. Um, and Lord knows what's going to happen for me coming on this show. You know what? Okay. I love what you said. I don't know what what's gonna happen at the end of this But if you want to fight, let's fight we got we all have we have a couple Jones man We've been we got I got a decent Alex Jones impersonation my business partner. He's got a really good I've been friends with my judge long time. He did some liners for us and

1:58:03 And people thought like, well that's pretty close to Mike Judge, but it's like Mike Judge. So that's my Alex Jones imitation. You know that indie song? The indie song? I can sing the whole thing. I've had enough of these people. A bunch of Christian murderers. They're a bunch of Christian murderers, scum running giant death factories, keeping babies alive, selling their body parts. What more do you need to know about these people? I go out and face this scum. They literally crawl out from under rocks. They have green looking skin and they run around singing we love Satan, we wanna eat babies. I've got them on video. I've got them on video. And then they keep going. Dude, I listened to that. Yeah, so. They put that out to attack me, it had like 70 million views. And I went, I love it, and they pulled it. That was Time Warner paid for that. That's actually my words. Hey listen, love having you here. Mark,

1:59:00 We love you. Everybody should visit the website enlifted.me Got our next big guest coming in get on the plane back to the Carolinas and come back to town We look forward to hanging out with your brother Thank You Alex and who knows Max Keiser is trying to get me to go down to El Salvador with him And I think I may do it know we're gonna go down there in two years the most dangerous country in Latin America now to save us I love it. See that's the point you take you take it's it's it's A keto. Things flip very quickly. All right. In lifted.me. Our next big guest is coming up. Thank you so much, sir. Pleasure. Thank you. What more do you need to know about these people? I go out and face this scum. They literally crawl out from under rocks. They have green looking skin. And they run around screaming we love Satan. We want to eat babies.

2:04:03 All right, I followed this guy's work for a while. Very interesting, very eclectic, and wow, he gets millions and millions of views every day on his videos on Twitter and more. At Jackson Henkel, that's H-I-N-K-L-L-E. and he's an American conservative, which is, we're going to talk about this, interesting definition, and Marxist-Leninist political commentator and social media influencer. He hosts the political show, The Dive with Jackson Hinkle. He's known for his advocacy of Make America Great Again communism. So he's a very articulate, very smart guy, has a huge effect, but people ask, is he trolling people saying conservative, communist? There aren't many communists who'll come on the show,

2:04:49 In November 2023, he's one of the most viral users on social media, predominantly ex with over 2 million followers. but banned from WhatsApp, YouTube, PayPal, and Twitch. Jackson received numerous journalistic awards for speaking truth to power on a show as well as other programs such as Tucker Carlson's Night, Temcast, IRL, Jimmy Dore Show, Piers Morgan, Uncensored, more. So I wanted to talk about you and then your view of the world right now, but maybe you can square this up for me. How do you have a Trumpist, make America great again, Marxist-Leninist view? Explain that to me. Well, it's pretty simple actually. I've been a big fan of your show for years and years. The MAGA movement, I think most people, there's a few people in the MAGA movement who are flirting with these globalist Nazi scum like Nikki Haley and Ron DeSantis, but I think most of the MAGA movement understands

2:05:43 that the resources, the land and the means of production of the United States of America should be in the hands of the MAGA working class. Okay. There's no reason why we should allow our oil, our gas, our nuclear, our land to be controlled by a few of these rich scum like Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos and BlackRock and Vanguard, for example. And that's the whole idea is, you know, we need to fight for this. My ancestors sailed here on the Mayflower. They fought in the American Revolution. They fought in World War II against the Nazis. And they're rolling in their graves right now, looking at what our country is doing, sending $260 billion to Ukrainian Nazis, $14 billion to these

2:06:29 anti-human Malthusian terrorists in Israel. We need to fight to get our country back or else we're gonna have a feudal society for the end of time. All right, well, I've read Marx, I've read Engels, I've read Das Kapital, and you look at Klaus Schwab, he says he's gonna bring Marxist-Leninism through, but with ultra-rich stakeholders in control. Are you saying have a collectivist view on the top and then it's actually distributed out of the people, but then, I mean, how would that actually be done? I mean, I get now we have a crony capitalist fascist model that's discrediting Americanism. So, I mean, it's great you call it communism. The US government paid settlers for 100 and something years to go West and gave them, quote, free land, but they had to fight for it and keep it and, you know, produce it. I wouldn't call that communism, but a very interesting idea, if you had like some computer, but who programs it,

2:07:26 to then you know distribute it down but then how do you distribute it to people that actually going to produce with it where does the free market operate in that plan? Well I think you've drawn up a really good point before in that the world is run by Trotskyists and people kind of shrug when they hear that they say really the world is controlled by communists well kind of they're they're controlled by Trotskyists as you put it and these are the most evil sick human beings on the face of the planet. It's the Clintonites, it's the Bushites, it's the World Economic Forum, it's Klaus Schwab, it's everyone who stands opposed to the American working class.

2:08:10 That is a fact. And Trotsky did not have the regular communist model, he had another model. So you're actually, that's true. So I'm impressed that these aren't just statements you're making, it's actually based in reality. Exactly, exactly. We might have, you know, not everyone's going to agree 100% of the time, but we agree on that. We know who our enemy is. And what I think is so incredible about what China's done, you know, China's been able to mobilize their economy for the public good, but also increase production and the scale of manufacturing. In America, we have a degrowth ideology that reigns supreme. Sure, but let's talk about, I'm gonna stop interrupting, but define a Trotskyite versus what you're saying, a Xi Jinping model.

2:08:57 Well, the Trotskyites, as you just put it, they want a feudal society where a few people control all of the resources and all of the wealth. What we need is what, I don't want to be China. I'm a Christian. I don't know if you're a Christian, but I value Christian values. And we need to recognize that our constitution must reign supreme. We need to bring back free speech right now because the Trotskyists have destroyed free speech by taking over big tech. But what China's been able to do is they're lifting people out of poverty. 840 million people in the past 40 years, they've lifted out of poverty. So if you don't like Trotsky, are you saying you're more of a Stalinist? 100 percent. I'm an American Stalinist. 100 percent. Yeah. All right. Keep going.

2:09:41 Well, so China, I mean, I don't agree with all their censorship, but when you look at China, they've been able to push for peace globally, which is something that the American oligarchs are directly opposed to. They want war everywhere. And China's also looking to invest in their own country. As I said, they've lifted 840 million people out of poverty, and they're doing that by actually producing more oil, more gas, they're producing more nuclear, and they are rapidly industrializing their major cities and rural areas. America right now, as sad as it is, is the resources are controlled by the top.

2:10:19 and they're not investing anything back in the working class. That's why our cities are crumbling. That's why we got 60,000 homeless veterans in our country. It's insane to me, but that's the stark reality. And I think that's why I love MAGA because again, Trump, he might not get everything right, but what the MAGA movement stands for is taking back the means of the production for the working class. Well, yeah, the globalists are about taking control of production from the people to control us. But communism never really delivers. I mean, China's still centrally planned. How are you saying it's taking the means of reduction away from the elite? Well, China is governed by the Communist Party, which has many different factions within it. They even have Jeffersonian Democrats in the Communist Party of China. But at the end of the day, Xi Jinping answers to the people of his nation. And if he failed to do that, he'd be kicked out of power.

2:11:12 China is, yeah, they're a planned economy. That's why they're so successful. But America is a planned economy as well. And what people need to understand is a planned economy isn't a bad thing. The only thing that's bad about a planned economy is when you have it like in the United States or the EU or the UK, where they plan it for a handful of rich oligarchs to amass untold amounts of wealth while they censor and condemn the masses for not following their stated gender policies or, you know, conspiracy policies. Well, Mr. Henkel, you're definitely right. The state planning of BlackRock is to make us all poor and literally euthanizes. So, but just because BlackRock is this globalist fascist thing, then I don't look at all the other choices, Stalinism.

2:12:01 What is the other choice or so I mean like I you know if you have an idea you should we could we could put it forward and talk about it but I think that you know really people People need to grow some balls and understand communism is the only answer for America right now, okay? Lenin said he was inspired by the American Revolution and that's how he led his revolution. And I think we have a lot to learn from Stalin and from Xi Jinping and you know, even what Putin is doing today. I know he's not a communist, but he grew up in a communist era. He was a part of the intelligence community, the KGB, and he carries that with him throughout his life today. The reason why China's so-

2:12:38 Let us shift gears of geopolitics. Very interesting is all I can say. So Jackson Hinkle's right, the modern political system is troxite in America, they even admit that at Harvard and Chicago Business School. It's not a debate. Absolute power, absolute control. I would even call it communism, just Luciferianism. But I don't agree with communism being a model because it always has state planning and creates the same thing. What we have today is not capitalism. It's just a piratical looting system that's at war with the people. So I don't disagree with what he's saying is wrong, but let's just do this. Tell us about yourself, because you, I've known about you for a while, but you've exploded, you're everywhere. You're reaching tens of millions probably a day now. And what's your political awakening? And then give us your view geopolitically about where the world is, President Trump, these prosecutions, just all of it.

2:13:30 Yeah, like I said, I've been a big fan of you for a while and I'm so happy to be on your show. You're clearly the leading ally against the globalist deep state that I think every American should look to. When it comes to my trajectory, the US and UK funded dirty war in Syria is really what woke me up to the madness going on in the I mean, you had Jake Sullivan emailing Hillary Clinton saying Al Qaeda is on our side in Syria. That's insane. They just wanted to take out Bashar al-Assad and steal his oil. And what I think has continued to unfold since that dirty war was really uncovered and what Israel and the United States and the UK were doing there is that the world is changing in a really beautiful way. The New World Order that Joe Biden claims to want to usher in

2:14:19 is failing. The world economic form is failing. Instead, what we're getting is a multipolar world where for the first time, the unipolar power that is the United States, that is Wall Street, that is the city of London, for example, is falling and it's being challenged both in military and economic might and culturally, I might add, by countries like Russia and China and now other nations like Iran, which just joined the BRICS grouping. So I'm hopeful for the future, but I'm very worried that our current leadership is going to fight them rather than seek to build peace and relations and business rapport with the BRICS grouping. And that's gonna end up having huge consequences for the American working class. We're gonna lose the dollar. We're gonna lose all of our mainstay. I wanna hear that. I mean, I agree with you. So how will we get out of it? First, tell us about yourself.

2:15:13 Why, as you said earlier, I'm an anti-imperialist, Marxist, Leninist, and I'm a strong supporter of the MAGA movement. I stand with Russia, stand with America, stand with China, stand with all these nations and our people, and I think we need to fight the deep state. But when it comes to- So you're like a communist nationalist populist? I guess, yeah, those labels do apply. I'm a strong patriot, 100%. Like I said, my ancestors sailed here on the Mayflower. I'm proud of it. I'm not one of these crazy lefties that wants to tear down statues or anything like that. That's amazing. Who are you related to on your maternal or paternal side or both?

2:15:51 On my father's side, I'm related to the individual who wrote the Mayflower Compact and he was the religious leader on the Mayflower. It's a long history and I think we should be proud of what our country's done and we shouldn't nuke it all. We're allowing these neocon globalists to nuke our country right before our very eyes. Your question was, what do we need to do as an American a How do you expect, because you've been a big critic of Israel, definitely Israel's walked into a trap or knows they are. The West, the US is funding this. Where do you see this attempt, or do you see it as an attempt to trigger a holy war?

2:16:49 I think that it's not so much an attempt to trigger a holy war. I think you can look at the geopolitical dimensions of this and recognize that the Arab states are worried about economic interests on their end. They're worried about losing the normalization of Israeli ties. And when it comes to the Palestinians in Hamas, they just want Israel to be gone. And personally, I think if the US stopped funding Israel, which I think we should, I don't think we should give a single penny to Israel, Israel would cease to exist. If they didn't have the military backing of the United States and the taxpayer dollars flowing to the tune of billions of dollars, Israel would cease to exist. As for- Well, Jackson, let me say this. I don't agree with that statement. Israel has over a thousand nuclear weapons.

2:17:37 fighter bombers, bombers and nuclear equipped submarines. And they have the third largest IT facility in the world. And they got a bunch of smart people over there. If someone tries to make Israel not exist, they're gonna take us to nuclear war. Just like Russia, whether you love Russia or hate it, we can't keep doing this to Russia. They've got the biggest nuclear force. So I'm just saying Israel will cease to exist. Why are you saying that? Well, I think you have to understand that Israel as a state truly only exists not because of the nukes that it holds. I think they're too cowardly to use nukes. But I think you also have to recognize that since this allux of flood began- So you think the Zionists aren't ready to use nuclear? You think Jews aren't ready to go to war? And do- I mean, I would like to say

2:18:28 It's very dangerous that Israel has nuclear weapons. I would see them as one of the first groups of the Iranians to use it. They're completely in war mode foaming at the mouth. I'm not attacking them, I mean just, are you kidding me? I think that if you look at Israel's military, they're an extremely casualty-averse military. And you have to understand that for a population that truly doesn't have any ties to the land, they're already fleeing in record numbers since October 7th. I mean, you'd have, you've had a huge portion of the population. Yeah, but that's just the wimps leaving. And I'll give it to Russia. They've lost hundreds of thousands of troops. They got flesh in the game, the skin in the game, but keep going. If

2:19:10 If Israel so much as decides to go full on into Gaza City and continue with their invasion, right now they're on the flanks of Gaza City, they haven't fully gone in. They're going to be met probably with a second front by Hezbollah, probably by Iran. I mean, I don't think they're cowardly enough to stay out of it. And I just don't see them continuing to push this and push this. And if they do, it's going to be very bad for them. They don't like a lot of casualties. They always stop their wars after a few, you know, two months, Max, two thousand, two thousand six and eleven and two thousand seven. But Netanyahu is cornered, though. So doesn't that make it more dangerous?

2:19:47 He's cornered geopolitically by other actors, yes, but he's also cornered domestically. The population of Israel doesn't support him and that's not because of the Alexa flood, that was because of constitutional reforms he was trying to push through before this all began. And I think his days are numbered. I don't even know if he's going to last for the remainder of this war. How do you see Ukraine ending? Do you think China moves into Taiwan? I'd love it if China moved into Taiwan, but I think Ukraine is going to end however Putin wants it to end. I've said that since February 24, 2022. There's no way that Ukraine has any chance of winning this. They've lost probably four or five times more men than Russia has. Russia has gained about 80,000 square kilometers of Ukrainian territory, and they're going to keep pushing for however long they want.

2:20:39 You know, the big criticism of Elon Musk, who's doing a lot of good stuff now, is that he won't criticize China. And people always accuse me of being on somebody's payroll. My listeners pay me and I say what I say, or they support me, they support me. But man, I mean, if I sit back and like people say, you're a smart guy, good looking guy, you know, everything else. And people would say like, well, who does this guy work for? Like, I mean, have you ever, have you been to China or I mean, you say you want Taiwan to get invaded South China Sea, that means we go to war with them. I mean, are

2:21:27 Taiwan or any of its proxies including you know the US which controls the Taiwanese government can do I mean what we're gonna send a few of our Navy ships over there and then they're gonna why would you love to see Taiwan invaded well historically I mean Taiwan is China I mean that's how the US government Cat cat categorizes Taiwan at the very moment. I mean they're the only reason Why there's a sincere push for Taiwan to be an independent country is because deep state neocons like Mike Pompeo want to use it as a proxy to try and destroy China. Taiwan does most of their trade with China.

2:22:06 they do a lot of Chinese manufacturing, it would be a huge blow to the Taiwanese, and I've been to Taiwan, US, if I've been there. I've been to Russia, been to Taiwan. It'd be a huge blow to the Taiwanese population. Their standard of living would collapse immediately if the US tried to start some sort of a proxy conflict. Sure, so how do you see this unfolding then? Because there's no doubt US power is receding. What do you think happens in Ukraine? What's your big geopolitical weather report? Big geopolitical weather report, I guess, is including the Trump presidency, which I do think is coming despite the best interests of them to try and lock him up and take him off the ballot, is that hopefully Trump gets an office and we can have world peace. I really do believe that's what he wants. But the other actors, Russia, China, of course, are going to try to build alternative forms of economic modes of production, alternative currencies,

2:22:58 And the most dangerous thing we could have right now is Biden and continuing to try and fight it rather than work with them to build a more, you know, economically beneficial future for all countries on the globe. Oh, you say Biden, you mean Obama? 100 percent. Yeah. Yeah. What do you think? Because I've seen you've been pro Hezbollah, pro Hamas. What do you think about all the military age men they have in the West? Military age men in in where? All of the Islamic men that have been brought in that are now allied with the left, and the left's the ones wanting all the wars, but then they schizophrenically say they're against the wars. What do you think of all the Islamists in the West? I think, you know, we call them diasporoids. They don't actually uphold any of the values of these Islamic states or these Arab states. I mean, if any of these, you know, Iranian

2:23:57 a I think a lot of these people that are allied with the West, or the Democrats in the West right now, they're out of their countries for a very specific reason. All right, I've asked a lot of the questions. The time we've got left, we're a little bit in the next hour. You're super viral on Twitter, and I'm not saying that's a bad thing. Musk has freed up almost everybody. I'm not even complaining that I'm still banned. I mean, I get why. But why do you think you're so viral?

2:24:46 I have no idea. I think at the end of the day, you would be the most viral person on Twitter if you were allowed on Twitter, and I've campaigned for you to get back on Twitter. I say, Elon, I'm the most viral guy right now. Please, if you can do me one favor, please bring back Alex Jones and others as well. I think when it comes down to it, people who expose the lies of the mainstream media are going to gain the most followers. And if you look at the war in Israel, we've seen nothing but lies, 40 beheaded babies, raped women, children charred. They claim that Hamas fighters with rifles are somehow burning and melting entire fleets of cars. It's insane. So people like when you expose lies, and that's why so many people like you

2:25:33 So you're predicting Trump wins, which obviously if he had the election now he'd win by massive margins, no fraud, but he would stop it. They can't stop landslides. But why did they think they could indict him all these times and it wouldn't make people see him as the outlaw? because they don't learn from their mistakes at all. They turn Trump into a martyr and it's very clear. I mean, you have tons of Americans who I don't think ever even considered voting for Donald Trump in their lives, who've not just only seen the crisis that is unfolding in our country as a result of the Obama-Biden administration right now, but also they see just

2:26:14 how criminally they've gone after Donald Trump and they understand, well, that guy is clearly posing some sort of a threat to the people that are trying to keep me down and kick me in the face. So now we're going to support him. And I think that's why you're going to see this landslide. I got a 50 questions here for you, Jackson Henkel, but you're talking a couple million people right now. What's most on your radar right now? What do you want to impart to people? I guess what I would like to impart to people listening right now is that there aren't many people that are willing to actually push for peace on the global front. Donald Trump is the only one. And, you know, there's this guy, you should maybe interview him. His name is Haz al-Din of the Infrared Show. He's the guy that pioneered this MAGA communism theory.

2:27:07 And the reason why we all support Donald Trump is because he's willing to actually go across the pond and meet with the official state baddies of the United States. and seek peace with them. And what we need to do as Americans, you know, a lot of people say they're America first in the Republican movement. They say, well, I'm an America first Republican. Nikki Haley says she's America first. Ron DeSantis says he's America first. But look at what they're actually saying. They're going to dump out our tax base for Ukraine, a bunch of Nazi terrorists. They're going to dump out our taxes for Israel, these terrorists that are killing 10,000, 11,000 Gazans.

2:27:46 You're not America first, you're just not. Maybe you're Israel first, but you're not America first. What we need to have in this movement is not just America first, but America only. I only want taxpayer dollars going to America. I want someone who's gonna fight for peace for our people. Donald Trump is that guy, and that's why we need to support him. Well, here's the problem. I'm against world government, the new world order, and corporate governance. And BlackRock is mainly allied with communist China. And so if the United States disengages internationally, it allows the Chai comms and others to now control this international umbrella that's transferred our money into it. So I don't want to get rid of world government. I want to get rid of corporate governance and stakeholder capitalism and bring back free market, laissez-faire, Teddy Roosevelt type ideas. But I go ahead. I think that I think that

2:28:48 You know, we all know the media lies. And if we know they lie about current events and what's going on right before our very eyes, we can all assume that they've lied 10 times, 100 times, 1,000 times more about history. Okay? I mean, you have people claiming that George Soros has somehow allied with communist China when he himself has stated that China is the greatest threat to his open society's foundation. No, he says Xi Jinping is the new Hitler, but he loved Xi Jinping until three years ago. I'm not aware of that. I just know that a couple years ago he put out a video. Yeah, I know. I got videos of him saying China and Xi Jinping's the model. Those Xi Jinping double cross them. So I was just trying to explain to you. And Jackson, I can tell you're a smart guy, so I'm not talking down to you. But just don't talk down to us. Just because America's run by scum doesn't mean China is good or Russia is good. I mean, you obviously can grasp that, right? I think Russia and China are very good. I think they've done good things.

2:29:49 I think the American people are great, but I think I personally, I mean, I have no qualms with Russia or China. They're not stealing our taxes and funding radical gender ideology. No, no, definitely. They're not the ones raping us. I know. I mean, I mean, I agree with that. I'm just saying throwing the baby out with the bathwater and saying communism is the answer Let's talk about Bill Gates, let's talk about Klaus Schwab. They, in their own writings, actually talk about a utopian communist system administered by them. So what do you make of Klaus Schwab saying China is the answer, China is the model? He's the head of the WEF. Do you agree with Klaus Schwab?

2:30:25 I think that Klaus Schwab stands diametrically opposed to what China is doing. Again, China is falling in the line of Stalin and Mao and, you know, Lenin really. When it comes to Klaus Schwab, he's a Trotskyist. He stands directly opposed to Xi Jinping and what their project is. What about, well, he praises Xi Jinping, but OK, you can say an actual action, he probably is more Trotskyist. One thing about that, You know, of course, of course, Klaus Schwab understands that he if he can try to curry favors from China and Xi Jinping, the most successful country in terms of economic standings, soon to be on the face of the earth. He's going to try to do whatever he can to try and win Xi Jinping over. But I don't think just because he's trying to curry favors from Xi Jinping means he agrees with him on everything. What do you think of Bill Gates?

2:31:17 I think Bill Gates is a terrorist and he should be locked in some sort of a gulag or something. That guy is an anti-American, anti-human scum. What do you think of the other Republican candidates? Vivek Ramaswamy is a very dangerous figure in my opinion. I like what he says on a lot of subjects when it pertains to cultural issues, when it, you know, even some of his comments about Russia are okay, but, you know, he says he acts like he runs the world, he rules the world. He said the way to answer this whole crisis in Ukraine is to tell Russia

2:31:59 that they can take whatever portion of land that they want from Ukraine, they'll win the war, but Russia has to agree that they won't enter any sort of agreement, partnership or collaboration with China. I mean, how is an American leader supposed to prevent a partnership that's already flourishing? I mean, so I think I think that guy's very dangerous. He wants us to decouple from China. China helped us after the 2008 recession. China's done nothing bad to us. China's not stealing our taxes. It's Bill Gates and it's the World Economic Forum and it's these sorts of people that are buying up all our land and resources and hoarding them for their own wealth. That's what he's doing. What do you think that, what's going to happen to the EU?

2:32:41 I'd be very happy if it collapsed and I wouldn't be surprised if it does. I mean, you're already seeing the tethers begin to break. You're seeing countries like Hungary who've just had too much with this insane Russophobic mindset from the EU. The EU is obviously, as we all know, withholding EU slush funds to Hungary that they paid into because Hungary won't adhere to their gender norms and their transgender ideology. So I think it would be great if we, you know, Alexander Dugan talks about the great awakening versus the great reset. And it's clear that there is a great awakening happening in a lot of these right populist movements inside of Europe. I just pray that they, that they're successful and they can take it to the end of the, uh, you know, the touchdown line, the finish line. I'm trying to attack you Jackson Hinkle, but I've interviewed Dugan and I've been on other shows with him and

2:33:34 You said earlier, you don't know I'm a Christian, but you're a listener. I am a extreme Christian. I'm a follower of Christ. Well, I meant to say orthodox Christian. I'm an orthodox Christian. I don't know if you're an orthodox Christian. I'm just saying the Great Awakening belongs to the West. Dugan does not like the Atlantean model. I'm not an Atlantis, an Atlantean, but I also think the West has things to offer. I don't actually want war with Russia. Dugan believes there's going to be a War between sea powers and the land power and that Russia will come out on top I actually don't want to have a supremacist view actually want to work with Russia So you're here saying you want to unify all this, but you're mentioning intellectual leaders of this stuff I'm actually bringing you up what they're saying So do you think Russia's gonna win the war against America? Cuz I don't I don't stand for that I stand for America and Russia working together well, I mean I've read a lot of Dugan's works and

2:34:28 You know, especially his most recent works, he talks about how Trump is an inspiring figure and how Trump should work to rebuild America. And he loves Trump and he loves the American people. So I don't know what you're referring to with that. But I think that Dugan is really interesting for a number of reasons. I mean, sure, he might theorize that Russia is going to defeat the United States. But I mean, can you disagree when you look at Joe Biden and what this country's doing? If they just blew his daughter up and killed her so the CIA doesn't like him. Yeah. I'm not saying he's a bad guy. He's a patriot for his country. And I think he's very intellectually honest. And I think I think overall, he's an honorable man. I just I just I'm a nationalist. I'm not I'm not a globalist and I'm not an internationalist, but at the same time,

2:35:20 I'm just tired of conflict with all these countries and all I was bringing up is that he believes that Russia's in an existential struggle and that America will be defeated. Well, America's already being defeated by globalists that have conquered us. So I don't think America is the globalist. I want to rid ourselves of them. I agree with you. I think And correct me if I'm wrong, but I think what he's saying is if America continues to chart down this path, Russia, they feel like they're trapped in a corner. They have no other option but to defeat the United States. But if you read in his book, The Great Awakening versus the Great Reset, he talks about these inspiring populist movements. That is the true Great Awakening that wants to rid our countries of this deep state globalist cabal. I didn't even know I follow him. So I don't even know he had a book called The Great Awakening.

2:36:08 My new book is called The Great Awakening. I know. Yeah, he's got a great book. Great Awakening versus the Great Reset. It's a great book. I'm going to read it. I'm going to try. I've been trying to get him back on the show. I've been on some Russian TV with him. I've had him on once before, and I was just trying to promote peace with him. And he he didn't seem to. He was like, no, the land power will defeat the Atlantic and sea power. And that was basically it. Yeah. You know, he's a guy who's everyone. I've changed my views in my life. I know he's a guy who's changed his views in his life. So I think it would be great. I personally would love it if you had another conversation. I want him on. He's invited Jackson Hinkle. Stay there. I want to ask you where you think the war in the Middle East is going. Where do you think the Ukraine war is going and more because you're super viral and obviously a smart guy and definitely get people thinking. We'll be right back with our number three.

2:37:01 Hour number four actually, wow. We are living in epic times. Jackson Henkel has definitely made a big mark on the culture and He's a very interesting fellow. We have a little bit of segment here, a little bit of the next segment. I want to invite him up on a commercial free special broadcast sometime. He can send us a bunch of videos, talking points. We can do a deep dive into understanding all this because I believe we should talk to everybody. I find it intriguing about what he's talking about because we have a collective communism of BlackRock and a few thousand billionaires

2:37:59 which is like a fascist communism or a plutocracy or an oligarchy. I don't think communism is in the answer to another communist system, but we should have an honest discussion about the fact that we're already basically communist. And fascists, it's all the same thing at the end of the day. So just, I got so many questions, but other points you want to get to? Regarding that, I mean, yeah, I'd have to say that At its core, what it is that we need in America right now is an economy that prioritizes the public good, but also simultaneously one that advances the modes of production. Because if we have the first part without the second part, you have like AOC style nonsense. If you have the second part without the first part, you have kind of what America used to be, but America's losing both of those points right now to this globalist ruling class.

2:38:53 But communism, because it sets up a new ruling class, does even worse than the monarchies and other things. You're a smart guy. I mean, is this a giant troll that communism's the answer? Not at all. Not at all. I think that communist governments are they're actually closer to the working people of the nation. I mean, you look at Stalin, for example, they took their country from a feudal society to the greatest country and military behemoth at its time that defeated the Nazis in the bloodiest war in human history. So I think China as well, basically feudal society. Yeah, but that's because the Russians were incredible people, not because of communism.

2:39:41 Well, if it was just because the Russians were incredible people, which I don't deny, you know, I'm engaged to a Russian right now. She's a beautiful woman, great person. But when it comes to Russian history, I don't think you deny that the Russians had a a very, very hard go at it under the feudal times. Sure, under the czars, a thousand years of feudalism. Yeah, no one, no one, it's like, it's like apartheid's bad, but we don't defend the communism they have now in South Africa. It's like you go from syphilis to brain cancer. Yeah, I mean, South Africa, I wouldn't say is communist. I think the EFF is communist and I definitely- It's a race-based communist, it's not communist? The EFF? The whole system, socialist, communist, whatever you want to call it.

2:40:29 Well, I mean, race baiting and gender ideology, all that stuff, it's not communist. It's funny though. It's funny though, because think about Alex, you make fun of these people all the time. Think about all these like college leftists that claim they're true Stalinists, something to that effect, but they're really Trotskyists, they're not communists. If they were alive during the time of Che Guevara or Stalin, they'd be put up against a wall. I was about to say, no, that's true. Modern leftists will be put up against a wall. 100% 100%. So I think I think when we there's a lot of people in the media and well meaning people also just average people who have been have been lied to about what communism is because it is the greatest threat to the deep state. And that's why they've lied about it for 100 plus years. Hold on, let's do 60 second break. Come back with that.

2:41:20 The British intelligence funded Lenin. They used it to bring down the czars. Hold on, we'll be right back. Alright, one of the most viral pundits and journalists out there is Jackson Hinkle. He's exploded onto the scene. And in closing, I want to invite you back on a commercial-free show soon to really do a deep dive on communism and basically have a debate about it. and all these terms become nebulous at the end of the day, really is about the central government and then also the culture, the people, the resources, the region, the history. But just because the czarist system in Russia was feudalist and oppressive, I mean, you know British intelligence, the train of gold, all that, and you talk, you criticize Israel a lot, you realize that it was the proto-Zionist that actually went over and helped overthrow Russia, that's on record.

2:42:13 So this is kind of a snake eating its tail here. The record I have, you said the British intelligence funded Lenin. I mean, I've never heard of that. I do know for a fact British intelligence funded Trotsky and the White Army, but I've never seen any evidence that they funded Lenin. So British intelligence funded the white Russians? The White Army, yeah. Yeah, no, the anti-communists, the white Russians. And I know it took them 10 years to get control of Russia, the communists. You've never heard of the train of gold? You never heard about British intelligence at the end of World War I taking out their relatives? I know they funded Trotsky and the white army, but I haven't heard of any funding going to Lenin. That wouldn't really make sense either.

2:43:04 Well, you know about the West and a hundred thousand people who were former Russian immigrants, mainly Jewish. The 100,000 man army sent back with Lenin from New York to take down the czars. I think that was good. I think they should have taken down the czars. The czars deserve to go. And I think it was a heroic moment in human history. So those were, so you're mad at Israel today, but those were good Jews that went over through the czars. Well, I have no qualms with Jewish people. I mean, I think there's... I don't either, but I don't care if you're black or white or purple. I mean, there were some big massacres carried out by the communists.

2:43:45 Yeah, everyone says there was, you know, these crazy massacres, billion people died, whatever. But let's just do a hypothetical. Not only is it a billion, when they arrested Mao Zedong's wife and then put him on house arrest his last few years, the Communist Party of China says Mao killed 80 plus million people. That's from the Communist Party. You know China repudiated Mao Zedong, right? Well, just the same way that Stalin's detractors within the Communist Party in Russia, you know, they came out and smeared him. But I would say Stalin did to Lenin what the Chinese communists did to Mao. But still, are you are you denying that the great leap forward, the Cultural Revolution killed a whole lot of people? What I'm denying it's OK. So people always say that they killed millions of people, they killed billions of people, whatever.

2:44:36 But what we know is, think about this, if there was some sort of a truly revolutionary figure in America who led an incredible revolution to take all of our resources, our oil, our gas, our nuclear, and our land back from the hands of Bill Gates and BlackRock, the media and the globalist elite, the EU, city of London, they would do everything in their power to lie about that revolutionary figure and make him look as terrible as possible. They'd say he murdered a million babies, you know. So I think that we have to recognize that if we understand the news media's lying today, that they've lied an insurmountable amount about history and especially... What I'm saying is just because our media is bad doesn't mean that the other country's media is good either.

2:45:23 No, but clearly our media has a vested interest in telling one side of the story. And you can also recognize that other nations media has the same thing. But when it comes to the US media and Western media, all they do is push pro globalist nonsense and they continue to kick the working class in the face. I'm not arguing that our elite is at absolute war with the people and sees us as garbage and is deindustrializing us. Jason Hinkle, or Jackson Hinkle, excuse me, Jackson Hinkle on Twitter. Please come back again. You're a great debater and I respect the work you're doing and I'm glad you're willing to have a discussion with me. Very, very thought-provoking 60-second closing comment.

2:46:06 Thank you for having me on. I've wanted to have a conversation with you for a while and like I said, maybe we have some disagreements about history or whatever, but those pale in comparison to the ally shit that we hold against the globalists. So I'm right by your side. I agree the globalists are the big king daddy that don't even have an ideology other than total domination and depopulation. And so I said radical Islam at least doesn't want to cut little children's genitals off. And as you know, so I'm like, I mean, that's not as bad as the globalist and I, I, GG Pings broken with the globalist. He's fighting them now. They're in a big war, but the China funds, Hollywood and all the anti-family, you know, race war crap. So it's a very sophisticated mess. Jackson Henkel. Thank you so much for the time. Thanks for having me on.

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2:48:39 to not lose the greatest symbol against tyranny the world has ever seen. And that's our American flag. And with that, I appreciate loving for us. I'll listen to you the day I die or you go off air, but I'm gonna do my part to make sure you don't have a great day. Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show. I'm your guest host, Maria Z. And let me tell you, I never miss a broadcast, but earlier this week, Tuesday for America, Wednesday for Australia, we had one of the largest telecommunications outages in history in our country, with more than 50% of the country not having access to phones or

2:49:21 internet whatsoever. It started at about four o'clock in the morning. And as much as I desperately tried to find a spot to broadcast from, driving around for hours to find some Wi-Fi, the connection was very unstable. And that was the case for most people. We had hospitals that were unable to function. We had our 911 unable to be contacted through landlines. The 911 number here is triple zero. So emergency services were affected. We had an entire city's train network shut down because of this outage. It was absolutely colossal.

2:50:01 seriously, seriously devastating for so many people around the country. And I'm not being overdramatic here. What the mainstream media has presented this as is basically they got a few people on, for example, on the ABC to talk about how they were, one guy said, I'm sad because I couldn't get a coffee. Or another lady said, well, I'm here meeting a friend for a coffee and I couldn't even text her to tell her that I'm here. And that's really the airing of the trivial issues of this huge, huge outage. For example, a hospital in Sydney put out a statement that if you need to contact us, our landlines are down, if you need to contact us, you can email us.

2:50:54 going to email you when they have no internet. Optus, the carrier that went down, said, oh we're putting updates on our website, people are going to look at the updates when they have no internet. And this went on for over 14 hours. Which again is not catastrophic in the sense that it was only a few hours, but the number of businesses that could not function. A barber came on and has received heavy criticism for saying that their barbershop, they could not function in their business. This cost them, I mean, I cannot

2:51:32 I can't even imagine how many businesses lost thousands of dollars as a result of this outage. And the solution from Optus is to give everyone some free data for Christmas. Gee, thanks guys. What about the thousands of dollars people have lost? And so this barber said, I could not process any transactions at all. My customers could not pay for their haircuts. Most people these days don't carry cash. And that was the most evident thing on Tuesday here in Australia. The people simply are not prepared for outages, but worse still,

2:52:13 It shows you what happens when everything goes digital. And I will talk a little bit about the digital ID and social credit aspect separately. But I want to bring up this article team, if you can bring up the news.com.au article. It says, how Optus CEO reveals how customers will be compensated for outage as she admits the nationwide outage could again. mean it could happen again. I want to say it is now Friday here in Australia and this outage happened on Tuesday. And we still not have had a decent explanation as to why this occurred. They have actually said this was a network event which triggered a cascading failure. I want to quote from their statement.

2:53:04 In common with major global telecommunications networks, the Optus network is designed with multiple layers of fallback and redundancy. At the heart of this is a modern intelligent router network developed with the world's leading vendors. Despite this, a network event yesterday triggered a cascading failure which resulted in the shutdown of services to our customers and our engineers are investigating. That is not an explanation. So we are three days from this huge outage that affected even our emergency services and an entire city's train network. And they really, I mean, this explanation is nothing. What is them saying, a network event has triggered some cascading failures? That doesn't explain anything.

2:53:55 And again, look at this article, she admits the nationwide outage could happen again. So are they preparing us for more of this? Are people to expect more of these failures in future? Optus has admitted another mass network blackout can't be. So when are we to expect this? How long will it happen for? Why is this happening? Tim, you can pull that article down now. It's worth noting that last year in October of 2022, this particular telecommunications provider, which is again one of the largest out of the two biggest in the country, experienced a massive cyber hack or what they tell us was a cyber hack.

2:54:46 And it resulted in 10 million customers data being compromised. Also, they told us and what happened was the government came out and said, you need a digital ID now. Hang on a minute, 10 million customers have had their digital data hacked digitally. And so your solution is for me to put more of my private information digitally in the hands of people who are incompetent and unable to manage it. And I'm talking about the government here and asking me to do it with a private company that's just been hacked. And almost immediately after that happened, you go onto the Optus app and there's an option there straight away to link your digital ID.

2:53:55 And again, look at this article, she admits the nationwide outage could happen again. So are they preparing us for more of this? Are people to expect more of these failures in future? Optus has admitted another mass network blackout can't be. So when are we to expect this? How long will it happen for? Why is this happening? Tim, you can pull that article down now. It's worth noting that last year in October of 2022, this particular telecommunications provider, which is again one of the largest out of the two biggest in the country, experienced a massive cyber hack or what they tell us was a cyber hack.

2:54:46 And it resulted in 10 million customers data being compromised. Also, they told us and what happened was the government came out and said, you need a digital ID now. Hang on a minute, 10 million customers have had their digital data hacked digitally. And so your solution is for me to put more of my private information digitally in the hands of people who are incompetent and unable to manage it. And I'm talking about the government here and asking me to do it with a private company that's just been hacked. And almost immediately after that happened, you go onto the Optus app and there's an option there straight away to link your digital ID.

2:55:33 I know that in the process of getting services, because now I have backups, but at the time, you know, getting a new service, the last time I needed one, I was asked to link my digital ID. Well, you just had a hack of 10 million customers data or so you tell us. And of course, what happened was people got really scared. They were told, oh, digital ID is the best way to protect your privacy. And so they went and got a digital ID, even though they've just been digitally hacked. I mean, it's just nonsensical. People just do not use their common sense. And again, when reading this,

2:56:18 from Optus that the quote that I read before, it was a network event that triggered a cascading failure. Yeah, we know. What was the network event? What was the cascading failure? How did it happen? And why are you telling us it can happen again? Surely a country like Australia cannot afford for 50% of the telecommunications to go out to the point where hospitals can't be contacted and you can't call triple zero, which is 911 in the United States from landlines. That's not something that a country like Australia should ever expect again and yet we're being told to expect it. Absolutely shocking, absolutely shocking. And so while most people would say that a 14 hour break from the internet and from their phones is quite welcome, I don't have to agree.

2:57:13 I don't think people have really considered all of the devastating effects to businesses and a lot of sole traders, you know, of this outage like the barber. And the mainstream media airs these trivial seemingly irrelevant problems, you know, people and the kinds of people that say, for example, the ABC got, you know, a guy that literally got on and said, yeah, well, I couldn't buy my coffee. So that made me sad. What happens when you have a digital ID that's linked to your central bank digital currency and you do something wrong and you can never buy a coffee again, buddy?

2:58:03 But the media won't talk about that. The media won't talk about what happens if this outage actually went for two, three days. We're being told to expect it. What would people do then? Yes, it may have been a welcome break from your having to answer your employers calls where you can't answer them or having to get on a train because there are no trains functioning in the city of Melbourne. Yes, that was a welcome break. What happens when it's two, three, four days? What happens if this becomes a regular thing? And all these people that, you know, complained that they couldn't buy their coffee. Have you thought

2:58:44 about carrying cash with you? Have you thought about a backup? Have you thought about what this would look like? Forget social credit scores. Have you thought about what a central bank digital currency in society would look like when something like this occurs? Especially if you're being told it's gonna happen again. People think at all, and you get the opportunity to get in front of the mainstream media to talk about this serious issue. And I'm sure some people did. I'm sure some people spoke about the wider issue of everything being digital and central bank digital currency and digital IDs. I'm certain some people would have brought that up. Surely, surely not everyone is that daft in my country. But the media only aired the guy that was sad about not being able to buy his coffee.

2:59:38 And really, really downplayed it. The other thing that's very, very important to note is that this did not only affect Optus. So the other largest carrier in the country is called Telstra. And many Telstra customers reported that they were affected as well. Now, Optus has been put over the coals in media. You should see the ways that the mainstream media has really grilled the CEO. However, I made the point that imagine if the media went to this effort to grill the politicians who got on the television every day and told people to get a safe and effective injection that they knew was gonna kill them. Otherwise, they don't get to work or feed their families. Imagine if they grilled them the same way that they did over an outage that lasted 14 hours. Well, we'd be in a different world now, wouldn't we?

3:00:37 But it's important to note that Telstra also had these issues and that customers were reporting across the country that they were having issues as well. And you don't see any coverage of the Telstra issue in the mainstream media. All that they've done really is a couple of small articles which you have to go looking for that say that apparently the reason that Telstra was affected was because all these Optus customers were going to Telstra to try and sign up, calling them. And I don't know how an influx of customers calling you or trying to access your website would actually affect, you know, through existing Wi-Fi networks. For example, I went to a

3:01:28 an eatery, a local eatery to try and access the Wi-Fi. I don't know how that in particular, when all these people access your Wi-Fi anyway, these networks exist. How is it that people are trying to call your customer service line or access the Telstra service to switch over? How does that actually impact your existing infrastructure that is able to handle that and provides services to some of the other telco providers as well as it is? But not a peep about that in the mainstream media, the fact that it's not only Optus that was affected, the other major carrier was as well.

3:02:08 But you know, we don't really have an explanation for you. We're investigating. We'll give you some free data over Christmas and it could happen again. Don't go anywhere. We'll be right back after this break so I can tell you about some more that I've discovered. Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show. I'm your guest host Maria Zee coming to you after one of the largest communications outages ever experienced in Australia's history this week. And I mentioned before the break how the mainstream media has really downplayed the effects on individuals. And that includes airing some people saying, I couldn't get my coffee, I was sad.

3:02:49 literally in those words. And while at the same time absolutely grilled the Optus CEO for the effects on businesses and so on, but not really asking the right questions and not highlighting at all the effects that something like this would have if we went completely digital, if we went to a digital ID, a digital currency. I mean, what happens the next time we have an outage as Optus said, expect more basically. The new book, The Great Awakening, defeating the globalists and launching the next great renaissance. The follow up to The Great Reset and the War for the World. This is the latest book by Alex Jones. And man, you know, that one was a real focused dissertation about the Great Reset and the globalists plan for the corporate world government.

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3:04:41 I might have an inside track. Let's just say I got an inside track. I got my autographed copy already, but you can get yours exclusively at Infowarsstore.com. The Great Awakening. This might be some prison reading for me. Welcome back everyone. A quick interruption there to my connection. It's worth noting that since Tuesday, the internet has not been the same. And that is for all of my devices. While we have connection and we can broadcast, it's definitely not as strong as the connection usually is. And also my ability to access some websites has been affected.

3:05:22 So I'm not sure that this is a widespread problem. All I can say is that every single one of my devices in my house is having difficulty accessing rumble. It's virtually unusable. And I don't know that that's the case for everyone. And I'm certainly not accusing the telcos of blocking access to this website. But I think it's worth noting that certain websites are having major issues still. And like I said, Rumble is virtually unusable for me right now on every one of my devices in my home, in my studio, while Instagram, for example, functions just fine.

3:06:02 So I don't know whether certain companies like Meta get priority for, I don't know how this works. All I can say is my personal experience. It's also worth noting that on the 8th of November, that what's called 50 in 5 officially launched. Now I'm going to release a very detailed report on this tomorrow on my show Uncensored. It'll be up on zmedia.com afterwards. But to give you a really brief overview, basically this is a Bill and Melinda Gates initiative.

3:06:39 funded and partnered with the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. And the 50 in 5 right now comprises of a few countries that are sort of not really big Western powers that are trialing this digital public infrastructure model. where they are digitizing all of their government services. They make reference to digital government, digital ID, biometrics. I listened to one of their webinars just yesterday and Togo was talking about how they're sharing their ways of biometrically tracking all of their people, which they are so proud that they launched during COVID.

3:07:23 how they're sharing this with the other countries. And the aim is within the next five years to have 50 countries basically sharing all of their data open source about all of their citizens. And everything is gonna be on this cloud for everyone to be able to view and share and so on and so forth. And without getting into the nitty gritty of this, this is really aligned with the UN 100's age of global enlightenment. How they say everyone is basically going to be living out their lives through the cloud. Everything will be connected. You'll be able to

3:08:01 The only real life you'll have is a life in the metaverse. You won't really live a real life on Earth. And I really do encourage people to go to our website zmedia.com with three E's and just type in, go to the interviews page and search Agenda 2045 or UN100 and watch that four part series that we did on that. That was hundreds of hours of research put into that series to really explain to people what the vision of the future was and how everything was going to be transferred into the metaverse. Your real life will no longer exist as far as they're concerned and they call you an object. And so tomorrow I'll release a detailed report as I said on this DPI. But it is very interesting to note that this huge launch of all of these countries backed by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation,

3:08:53 of making everything digital and pushing for digital ID and biometric tracking and all of the above happened on the 8th of November. And, you know, that was just just hours really after our huge outage here in Australia. I'm not suggesting that the two are absolutely related. I just think that it's a coincidence worth noting. And of course, we have to ask these questions, especially when we're not given a solid answer as to why this catastrophic outage happened in Australia. I also don't think that a couple of hundred gigs of data is really sufficient for the businesses that lost thousands of dollars on that day.

3:09:37 And I'm certainly one of the businesses that was affected as well. But I want to talk about the broader problem here, which was not addressed by the mainstream media about digital ID, about what happens when you have a digital ID and you have a central bank digital currency and you don't behave how you should and then you're cut off and you can't pay a bill. Or you can't pay your mortgage, or you have a car registration payment that's due today and you have to pay it digitally and you can't pay that. Now, that is true for anyone if you have an outage, especially if the outage lasts a while. But on Tuesday, all of Australia said to themselves, well, that's okay, it'll be back.

3:10:32 And we depend on that. We're very, very dependent on that infrastructure. But what happens when it doesn't come back and it's been four days and you're not getting your access back because you're not trusted by the government because you tried to buy meat this month or you drove a petrol vehicle this month or you wanted to drink milk? Or you bought more than three items of clothing. Well, actually, you can't even do that because the central bank digital currency can be programmed. For Americans, you would have heard the World Economic Forum talking about how they can program a CBDC to restrict your ability to purchase ammunition. So have your Second Amendment all you want. They're going to stop you from buying ammunition.

3:11:23 And then what happens when you try to purchase it another way? All of a sudden your ability to use your bank account, your digital currency is blocked indefinitely. Like is happening to some people in China when we come back on the other side of this break. I want to paint a bit of a picture of how how this dystopian world that they're building will actually look in practice. And we don't have to look very far to see how the people in China are suffering desperately, desperately under this social credit system. Don't go anywhere.

3:11:59 The future is discussed in the next segment. All right, I want to talk about what this dystopian future looks like. Australia got a very, very small taste this week of what 14 hours with absolutely no internet, no phone service looks like and what it effectively looks like to be offline. But I want to show you guys what it looks like to be in a permanent state of being offline. There is a journalist in China who is an independent journalist and worked very, very hard at exposing corruption in the government. And team, if you can queue up the video journalist social credit score, what

3:12:41 What's happened to him is absolutely shocking and something that people like me certainly have experienced the very beginnings of with my personal debanking earlier this year. I know it's not an isolated incident, and that's the problem. You have multiple freedom loving people who've been debanked already as a small taste, shadow banned, unable to reach people with their crucial information about government corruption, about how these people are planning to absolutely destroy our lives. Look what's happened to these journalists. Let's have a look at this clip.

3:13:19 In Leo who recently tried to book a flight, he was told he was banned from flying because he's on the list of untrustworthy people. Leo was a journalist who was ordered by a court to apologize for a series of tweets he wrote and was then told his apology was insincere. I can't buy property. My child can't go to private school, he says. You feel you're being controlled by the list all the time. And the list is now getting longer, as every Chinese citizen is being assigned a social credit score, a fluctuating rating based on a range of behaviors. China's growing network of surveillance cameras makes all of this possible. Ken Dawoskin has studied China's economic and political culture for more than three decades.

3:14:04 How far into people's daily mundane activities does this go? Well, I think that the government and the people running the plan would like to go as deeply as possible to determine how to allocate benefits and also how to impact and shape their behavior. The fear, of course, is that the government may use this social credit scoring system to punish people that it deems not sufficiently loyal to the Communist Party. And trying to clear your name or fight your score is nearly impossible because there is no due process. The court says that he was insincere in his apology. Sounds a little bit like what's going on with Owen Schreier at the moment because he wasn't repenting for his opinion that the US 2020 presidential election was stolen. So that deems him worthy of imprisonment and solitary confinement apparently. And this journalist in China

3:15:00 can't travel, and he's permanently not trusted by the government. I watched another video where he said it's impossible for me to function in society. He's now a leper of society, just like the uninjected were during the time of lockdowns. Tim, if you can bring up the article from biometricupdate.com, Australia's biometric ID verification systems have been operating illegally for four years. Look at that, everyone. So what this article basically goes on to explain is the ways in which we don't even have the legal framework in our country for the ways in which we've already been tracked and traced through biometric ID verification systems. And yet our country's been doing it illegally. So what do you think they're doing right now?

3:15:57 like they did during COVID, where they monitored your compliance and your behavior and your resistance online. And of course, monitored our resistance recently when Alex had the whistleblower come in and say to him that they were planning on reinstating mask mandates and injections. The whole world, it never went through because the whole world said no way, we're not doing this. To think that they don't monitor public opinion apart from manipulate it, but they monitor it so that they can manipulate it. And they're breaking laws of biometrically monitoring people as we speak in my country.

3:16:38 I guarantee they're doing it in some way or another in other countries. We've seen how they violated the United States First Amendment by censoring people, still no action for that. You as a government have colluded with big tech and you have violated the US Constitution. What is that called when a government violates a constitution or when the government breaks laws or illegally spies on its citizens? What is that called? probably what Snowden was warning us about some years ago. I want to play one more clip very quickly and it's the COVID test score clip team. If you can pull that one up, another clip from China. Your health record, when you're last time go doing testing, if you don't do test for a few days, the code will turn yellow.

3:17:41 and where did you go? They have all your life, entire set of data. The government has all the data. It's all done automatically. It's all done with machine, with all the AI technology. So the government can even reduce its police forces. It's all AI now. So with that code, you control your life. So how about if I go out, I lost my phone. So if you lost your phone, you'll not be able to go home and you have to go through enormous trouble, enormous trouble to get yourself another phone, another code. And it's now, I am not joking, but it's a real proposal today

3:18:38 to inject some chips. play is that you've got to have a minimum social credit score of 550 to even use a vending machine in China, right? It will not work unless you have your social credit score verified by AI that you are a good little citizen with a score of 550 or above. I've been

3:19:34 been advised as well that this is the case as far as charging your electric vehicle goes. I know that now we have legislation that's been introduced, I believe by Massey, to stop Biden's mandate for electric vehicles that sort of switch off by themselves. What do you think electric vehicles that can be operated by a kill switch are for, other than if you are not complying with the tyrannical government to switch off your ability to travel? To switch off your ability to go and purchase food?

3:20:12 Again, I mean, if you are required to be a good little compliant citizen in order to purchase food, how long do you think your outage will be? It won't just be 14 hours knowing, it's okay, it's gonna come back up. That lady said that code can control your life and if you lose your phone, you go through enormous trouble. Move the human being out of the picture where you can discuss and plead your case with a human and put AI at the helm, and what do you have? A system that offers you zero trust with no recourse whatsoever. We're already seeing how corrupt the judicial system is and how unjust it is in the case of Owen Schreier, very unjust. We're already seeing how the governments and the law is weaponized against the people. And what did she say? With AI, you can reduce the number of police officers.

3:21:17 Heck, just have robots monitoring us. And the human conscience that comes with having human interaction is completely removed. The human conscience when it comes to discretion is completely removed. You have to deal with a machine to plead your case and that machine isn't letting you plead anything, ladies and gentlemen, let me assure you. So Australia, take it as the test run for how life will be like under a zero trust model, except don't think of it as a 14 hour outage. Think of it as a permanent outage. How are we going to survive outside of this system? For me, everyone, this week was a reminder of how much more we need to be prepared and not depend on their systems.

3:22:02 grow our own food, have alternative communications, have cash or gold and silver. I'm a gold and silver person. Other means to function without their system that ultimately seeks to enslave you in Australia. Prepare because we've been told this could happen again. It's been an honor to be with you all today. Thank you so much for your time. Thank you to InfoWars. Support the InfoWars store to keep this broadcast alive. And God bless you all. I thank you. I've not been this excited ever! The replatforming begins now. Join Mug Club and get one month free with promo code ALEX at jonescrowder.com