Alex Jones & David Icke Debate Elon Musk, Transhumanism, and the NWO as well as Tucker Carlson’s Putin Interview! – FULL SHOW 2/9/24

00:02 While other networks lie to you about what's happening now, InfoWars tells you the truth about what's happening next. Visit infowars.com forward slash show and share the link today. And it's time for humanity stand up in the InfoWar and say I don't know what's going to happen at the end of this but you want to fight? You better believe you've got one! From the front lines of The Information War It's Alex Jones But you're describing two different systems. You say that the leader acts in the interest of the voters, but you also say these decisions are not made by the leader they're made by the ruling classes. You've run this country for so long and known all these American presidents what are those power centers in the United States do you think? Like who actually makes the decisions

01:14 I don't know. America is a complex country, conservative on one hand and rapidly changing on the other. It's not easy for us to sort it all out. Who makes decisions in the elections? Is it possible to understand this when each state has its own legislation? Each state regulates itself Someone can be excluded from elections at the state level. It is a two-stage electoral system, it is very difficult for us to understand it. Certainly there are two parties that are dominant – the Republicans and the Democrats

01:55 And within this party system, the centers that make decisions, that prepare decisions. Then look… Why in my opinion after the collapse of the Soviet Union such an erroneous crude completely unjustified policy of pressure was pursued against Russia? After all this is a policy of pressure! NATO expansion support for the separatists and caucuses creation of a missile defense system These are all elements of pressure. Pressure, pressure, pressure… Then dragging Ukraine into NATO is all about pressure-pressure-pressure. Why? I think among other things because excessive production capacities were created

02:44 During the confrontation with the Soviet Union, there were many centers created and specialists on the Soviet Union who could not do anything else. They convinced the political leadership that it is necessary to continue chiseling Russia, to try to break it up, to create on this territory several quasi-state entities and to subdue them in a divided form – to use their combined potential for future struggle with China This is a mistake, including the excessive potential of those who worked for the confrontation with the Soviet Union. It is necessary to get rid of this. There should be new fresh forces – people who look into the future and understand what's happening in the world. Look at how Indonesia is developing – 600 million people.

03:36 Where can we get away from that? Nowhere. We just have to assume that Indonesia will enter, it is already in the club of the world's leading economies no matter who likes or dislikes it. Yes, we understand and are aware that in the United States despite all economic problems The situation is still normal, with the economy growing decently. The GDP is growing by 2.5%, if I'm not mistaken… But if we want to ensure the future then we need to change our approach towards changing. As I already said, the world would nevertheless change regardless of how developments in Ukraine end. The world is changing

04:22 In the United States themselves, experts are writing that the United States are nonetheless gradually changing their position in the world. It is your experts who write that. I just read them… The only question is how this would happen — painfully and quickly or gently and gradually? And this is written by people who are not anti-American. They simply follow global development trends – that's it! And in order to assess them and change policies, we need people who think, look forward, can analyze and recommend certain decisions at the level of political leaders. It's Friday! We got a massive broadcast lined up today David Icke, Roger Stone you name it stay with us This is the broadcast that the globalists do not want you to hear but it still on the air because

05:16 Dauntless support. I'm very honored and blessed to be here on this Friday, February 9th 2024 transmission And we are going to be here for the next four hours live head of Owen Schroer in the war room also on The InfoWars Network Coming up at 3 p.m.. Central Texas time today Okay, obviously the Biden story is ultra massive. The wheels have totally come off on multiple levels. He doesn't even know what planet he's on his brain is declining more in a week than it has the last year at current decline you won't be able to talk in a few months so this was just totally insane but you notice he's getting worse right before the Democrat convention coming up because their doctors that are drugging him up are in control. This is a soft coup

06:02 And now mainstream media has the knives out corporate media to remove Biden. Incredible Putin interview yesterday, very statesman like extremely intellectual and very historical but the main takeaway is when the globals are jealous of him they all share power in their globalist committees. Putin is actually in charge of Russia and over 80% popularity. And I know journalists that have been over there from coast-to-coast they say no And Russia has a history like unlike any other country of being constantly attacked for 1100 years, perpetual war from the East and West. And that's what's going on with the Russians and they're not gonna back down they're not gonna go away. If the West starts a war with them it'll be the end of civilization as we know it, they'll die will die much worse than Germans or Russians going toe to toe in World War II. I'm not lessening how many troops we lost World War II both my grandfathers were in but

07:04 Russia and Germany were the big person table at Thanksgiving, and the little card table with the kids in it was the United States and their so-called allies. 26 million dead Russians 24 million dead Germans those are official numbers killing each other And then you look at the numbers we didn't even lose a million here in the United States still a serious war is still terrible but The real war was that and you have Napoleon losing against the Russians. It just goes on, and on, and on... And so

07:43 I predicted, and just telling you my research nobody else did. Everybody's like what are you gonna talk about? So to get a big giant history lesson at the first we have the clip of me saying it on Monday We're going to post it to Bandai Video or I'll put out on X just show you how do my research And I told the whole story of Slav the Wise and all that and again thats known over there thats not known over here but I nailed it But since I knew that already people were gonna be bored by this theyre not gonna understand But that's what Putin does. I mean, he just talks about history because if you don't know history you're doomed to repeat it as Winston Churchill famously said in the middle of World War II. So we have Roger Stone joining us at the bottom of the hour in about 23 minutes 22 minutes then we have David Icke joining us for at least an hour and a half And I'm calling into debate because well We are going to debate some stuff but It is a friendly debate. I love David Icke A super great guy Super smart Really liked the guy

08:44 And that's why when he's been kind of kin pecking me a little bit, and that's kinda what it's like calling me the minion of Elon Musk and stuff. It hurts because it's good to have David there criticizing Elon so that we can push him in the right direction. And if he doesn't go on the right direction you expose him but when he's moving in our direction and doing all these good things sure you don't turn the lights off and trust Elon Musk anybody with that much power you can't trust but I'm not going to complain when he's swinging like 80% our direction. So, that simple and never sold out of the globalist when i was offered the big Fox shows and Rush Limbaugh slot and everything because it was a direct new world order work for us you'll get all this money in power." I said no to all that but when somebody is fighting the globalists on so many fronts

09:37 And also double dealing on it. He's got a foot in both worlds, but he's moving way towards us I'm gonna talk about the good IC and then criticize the bad IC III don't think it's uh David is a purist which I think isn't good It's good to have him there as the guy that is going to you know really focus on musking it's good to have that position out there but I just cannot in good conscience myself sit here when I see the globalists literally coming after Musk. He's devastating them and sure he probably wants to take over their system, he is just a competitor that is probably what it is okay? He knows his way smarter than them they are all twisted and embedded out of control and he is moving on him thats how they see Trump by the way They see Trump as a competitor there is old saying Frank Herbert wrote about

10:33 but it's been said by philosophers before him that every revolutionary is a aspiring aristocrat, in that every revolutionary really just wants to be empowered. I think that's a cynical worldview because that's not how I am. I wanna see humanity empowered and I wanna see prosperity like the founders did but most revolutionaries particularly their leftist do want to be the boss and do want to enslave people so in The Maine Frank Herbert I was a great novelist and great science fiction writer, but also an amazing political essayist. I got interested in him back when i was young reading his science fiction books and I found out that he did a lot of non-fiction before it was popular and I actually got those books. I used to go to rare bookstores and order books and stuff

11:20 got some of the rare writings of Frank Herbert, learned a lot from him. He was a real environmentalist by the way humans taking control of the environment and terraforming it to turn the desert green and do all these amazing things so again The Globalists hijacked that amazing environmentalist movement of the 60s and by the 80s had under total control but I'm kind of digressing on the Frank Herbert subject what i want to talk about here today is the fact that we're winning I wanna play when we come back from break, Joe Rogan with the NFL quarterback Aaron Rodgers who I really admire not for the NFL. I mean, I like football and I think it's cool but I like him a thousand times more because he's got courage and they had some nice things to say about me but what it's really about is the fact that this broadcast is now seen

12:18 by Tucker Carlson, said it on air into my face. Joe Rogan all of them as the most accurate I've made some mistakes have followed rabbit trails. I've been set up taking the bait a few times and not perfect but the fact that in this world today at the most popular talk show host to people say Alex Jones is the best we've got that shows how far we've come is not about Oh look on the bus We've got boy saying much but Once people get my perspective It's like wearing the glasses and they live I'm not telling you what to think. I'm like, oh you don't see that 20-point buck right behind that tree in the brush I might just move your eyes a little and kind of just don't know My grandfather taught me great hunter to unfocus You're sitting there looking at a deer stand it

13:07 in a clearing at 200 yards of woods and deer trails. And he said, if you're looking for the deer, you can't find him. He said just sit back and open up your eyes and just look in your eye...and the movement when you pick up oh there's a squirrel! There's a rabbit! There is a hawk! There's a crow! There's an armadillo! Oohh..there's a 20 point buck! And that's what I'm trying to get you to do, is not see what I see through my eyeballs. I read the Globalist documents and I see their plans being unfolded and so I know damn well they're in charge. They're not in total control yet. They want to get their cashless society in or they get that in baby then we are in a whole world of SH-T But as soon as people finally listen to me

14:00 and finally understand how it all connects together. And I can show them globalist documents, even admit how they do it but I'm able to figure out how they're operating and then later even find a document where they admitted all exactly as I saw it. It's a perspective. And you've got to admit there is a global elite coming after you. You've got to admit there are globalists that are trying to dehumanize you. But their cold-blooded. They want you turn off your life force and turn off your survival mechanism. Roger Stone is coming up David Ickes coming up and so much more. I want to thank everybody who has joined us on this live, unfiltered uncensored transmission nobody calls the shots around here but me i'm in charge of my destiny

14:48 And there are billions of people just like me and we're coming together. And there is a great awakening, a great renaissance happening and that's why the globalists are so scared making their moves." All right now this short two-minute Joe Rogan clip with Aaron Rodgers they said some other nice stuff about me on the podcast and again it's not about me it's about I'm this demonized symbol the worst thing on earth the corporate media says and then the biggest talk show host in world all of them now in Japan, in Russia and Africa and Brazil. In the United States and Europe I'm not considering name them all say Alex Jones is the best And it's not about me being the best for me They're saying that radical outcast The guy totally demonized Is good because they've done their research That is a repudiation of the system It shows our political understanding Your political understanding your support this broadcast Is paying off as I tell you I go listen I do more important work How many times have said this last three years?

15:44 behind the scenes talking to the heavy hitters and sending them information, and then seeing it on their show a couple days later. And then they asked me questions not just Joe Rogan but a bunch of other people. And Joe talked about that but that's not the most important thing he said. He didn't get into the collapse of civilization and we're two weeks from cannibalism folks if things go down and The Globalists are positioning us for that so I see David Icke who's coming on, I love him to death. Criticizing Joe, criticizing oh they're gatekeepers though! I've known Joe 25 years i've seen him wake up from kind of a liberal to what he is today He's real it's a process and now he's getting more and more hardcore about 90% as hardcore as I am on air behind the scenes my god he's fully awake And then he knows Elon and tells me stuff about Elon I don't know Elon Elon has totally at least telling these people he hates the new world order wants to bring it down

16:35 Couldn't it be that he would swing around to us because he's got 11 kids and wants them to have a future? I'm not even saying that's going to happen, but we have to think like winners. We don't delusionally think everything is okay like Q says but we also when things are going our way quickly no go No! Those people are fake You still watch him you still criticize him That's all healthy what David does is healthy And I'll discuss with David coming up I'll play a clip of David in the moment But guys print me his tweets from last week And in fairness, he had so many emails I do too. I was sending him stuff months ago it was going into his spam. He missed them he found them and when you heard me complain went to his email and go oh god they're in the spam which a lot of the computer systems do that they span the good stuff. You learn that especially if we use it a big computer system I don't know what he's using but

17:26 And he said, sure I'll come on. Plus his daughter beautiful lady who's got a beautiful family and also his family died recently so i'm not here criticizing David at all. I think what he's doing is healthy but when he put out those tweets where He calls us mams or mammies, something. It's some British term I don't understand minions. I looked it up when he did it and basically like like I'm a brown noser of Elon Musk and I'm not seeing the truth now and I've covering everything the way always do not censoring anything I say if I get banned for something I say by Elon then talk about it but I'm not changed one damn thing I do other than like wow Elon is really moving in right direction what am I supposed to say?

18:08 How dare you expose the open border? How dare you say the dangers of AI? How dare you expose the WEF and say we don't want world government. Okay, fine Elon Musk is bad he shouldn't do any that and then I'll be a holy one I guess so the perfect person here but i understand for folks who've been doing this for 35 years like myself or 30 there is kind of well worthy OG's who are these guys coming along Well I see that as the sign of our success not our failure And that's what God imprinted on me, and I've been talking about it for 20 plus years. That my main mission was to get everybody awake when they saw it all come true and went from beta to operational then there'd be the great awakening. And I didn't just say that when we were able to do this together in the last few years. I've been saying it for decades you heard me talk about it hundreds of times if your a regular listener. So I'm watching Gods information and David got a big download too he has got a bunch of them so my download told me this and the download came true Here is a clip of Joe Rogan

19:06 You know, it's the Alex Jones was right meme. Like you realize how many times that guy has been right? Like how is he so good at predicting all these things that are happening because the guys balls deep in it all day long Yeah, you could call him right now. It's like I'm doing a document some of Marina research right now There's just sick this what they're doing This is bland I talked to him all the time we text each other every time something's crazy or texting me What is this and he'll send me all these documents He's talking about that's not something he said the other day about You know, you gotta have some money in case they turn the power off. Turn the water off. Do something like that. Well there's a lot of people who think that including me because if I was a foreign government and I wanted to cripple America or kill the power grid we'd go feral in two weeks

19:46 It would be chaos in two weeks as soon as people don't have water and food and their children are starving. People go crazy, they start eating dogs, they start shooting deer in the neighborhood then that runs out and they realize how to keep food good when it's hot out, they do not know how to get water or treat water It could get real bad, real quick. We are not self-sufficient even remotely There's small pockets of human beings in this country that are self sufficient but if you had to guess how many people could survive off grid if everything went haywire it's like 1% which is probably what happens when there's a massive catastrophe some sort of global catastrophic event like super volcano or something along those lines another younger crisis yeah its probably one percent of the people survive That's probably what happened back then too Yeah well that's what I've always said as the reason why

20:29 Look at like ancient Egypt. Look at how insanely sophisticated they were and if you subscribe to the Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson's Perspective which I do Which is that? At one point in time there was an incredibly sophisticated society probably more sophisticated than we are that lived in Africa in Egypt And those people were probably in a different Different direction, but far more advanced than we are today and then they were wiped out and then go after that So if you're talking about 11,000 years ago eleven thousand eight hundred years ago when they got wiped out in the just You know we're down like 1% of population Think about what history looks like when you go back four thousand years three thousand barbarians That's Joe Rogan. That's powerful And I know Joe very well okay extremely Well, huh? That's some

21:21 parties in Vegas, other places that were like the hangover. I mean for a long time ago but... And he's real and then people are like oh no he's not real because he's popular No freedom is popular! I know i'm for real So other people like Elon Musk are going to see that they're gonna come our direction For whatever reason we've got to be ready to win Here's David Icke about the interview coming up in about 30 minutes Hello everybody. Tonight, 6pm UK I'll be talking live with Alex Jones in the United States about my views have been quite controversial but that's a change isn't it? About the way what i call the mainstream alternative media The MAM has been eulogising and not questioning in the way that it would have done before

22:17 the actions, activities and companies and agenda of Elon Musk. Apparently there's a chance we'll see of Elon Musk coming on which I would be absolutely delighted about but otherwise we're going to be knocking this subject around and it's something that has to be debated because the alternative media is being neutered currently and it has to stop. All right, now we're going to put a Spaces out in the last half of the interview just for Elon to call on him once he does that two words nitric boost ladies and gentlemen

23:48 Bonus, Nitric Boost. Nitric Boost 40% off in stock ready to ship InfoWarStore.com Nitric Boost Thank you all for your support and you need this product For months when you were asked about your age, you would respond with the words watch me. Many American people have been watching and they have expressed concerns about your age. That is your judgment! That is not the judgment of the press. They expressed concerns about your mental acuity they say that you are too old Mr. President, in December you told me that you believe there are many other Democrats who could defeat Donald Trump so why does it have to be you now? What is your answer- Because I'm the most qualified person in this country to be president of the United States and finish the job I started As you know initially the president of Mexico, Sisi did not want to open up the gate to allow humanitarian material to get in. I talked to him. I convinced him to open the gate

24:52 I talked to Bibi to open the gate on the Israeli side. He didn't just get a name wrong, folks he said Mexico which is Egypt in his mind and the other side of the world in the Middle East we're in North America wouldn't let the Palestinians in and he has bigger gaps than that every day. Everybody knows you leave milk in the refrigerator too long, expiration date. You smell it or you taste it, you spit it out and throw it away but if you ever had like a hunting cabin or something that's been six months, you leave a gallon of milk there and come back and its just solid matter. It turns into yogurt, totally rotten. That is biting. He's like two year old milk so Roger Stone was the first person to plus years ago, the first to say they're gonna remove him

25:45 in 2024 at the DNC and replace him with Big Mike, aka Michelle Obama. Big Daddy! And now CNN Fox News I'm not going to play the clips you see it all over the news New York Post they say no they're gonna remove him and they're saying will he even last to the convention so they're now admitting oh there's gonna be removed from the convention And you got the FBI not charging him, the Justice Department not charging him but admitting he's guilty of illegally having documents as vice president had no right to do that. But Trump still charged when he can legally have them this is next level hypocrisy so every time they charge me for something I didn't do or have a show trial without even a jury or tell the jury is already guilty goes up five points

26:31 So I guess he's gonna go up more now that he is charged for legally having documents, but Biden they say had him illegally. But since his brain is Swiss cheese, he can't. Trump confidant? Richard Nixon confidant? Literal living political legend and he's a political fossil but doesn't look like one. He's in better shape than me damn it! I'm jealous and better dressed Is my good friend Roger Stone. Roger this is not a boring time to be alive, is it? No, Alex. This is actually one of the most tumultuous weeks I've ever seen in American politics. I think yesterday late yesterday was a flashpoint. Let's be very clear about what exactly what happened? A special counsel Robert Herr who was appointed by Merrick Garland, who is Joe Biden's attorney general released a report and when she essentially said firstly that Biden did in fact illegally retain

27:29 of He cannot be prosecuted because in their opinion, a jury would find him not guilty based on his essentially is mental incapacity. They don't say it in those exact words but they basically say that he's old, that he's confused and so on. So now Biden comes out charging out of the gate attacking the press.

28:12 His counsel puts out a statement attacking his own Justice Department. Joe cannot have it both ways, he cannot avoid prosecution because he's not mentally capable of standing trial at the same time saying reelect me let's keep my fingers on the nuclear codes this is the beginning of the end It's gonna be impossible to sweep this under the carpet. And as you point out, Alex, he did more damage yesterday in his response. He hurt himself in his response. Well people say Alex Jones has a crystal ball but buddy

28:50 I've learned to not roll my eyes at you because everything you say comes true, but how the hell did you at least two and a half years ago say they'll remove him in 2024? And I said well maybe earlier. He said no and then you been on the air Like a parrot saying that and now it's all over the news. The Democrats have met, Republicans admit it And you're not getting into credit It's not really about credit But that's who I want on the show is people that are almost always right or always right instead of the mainstream media That's always wrong Well, going all the way back to the time that I was proud to do a show at InfoWars or The War Room which I proudly co-hosted with my friend Owen Schroeder. The whole point of InfoWars is tomorrow's news today. First of all one needs to understand the character of Joe Biden you may remember perhaps a year and half ago maybe longer when Senator Lindsey Graham said well even if you disagree with Joe politically you gotta admit he's nice guy actually

29:49 And nobody I know who knows him thinks he's a nice guy. People think that he is a nasty, self-centered egotistical prick that has never been popular among his own Democratic colleagues in the Senate And he is really delusional in the sense that he thinks he's a Kennedy, thinks this is his birthright. He's very, very stubborn and I think you saw that yesterday but let's be very clear- By the way, you predicted a year ago and over again that he and his fake doctor wife

30:26 Think that they are actually in charge and not Obama and that he's gonna go kicking a stream screaming And that that's gonna be the crisis if they would then start The indictments of his son on the pressure everything you said to the letter like you wrote. The symphony is now happening Alex I can't disagree, but let's look at yesterday for a second first of all the report makes clear That that he could not remember when he was vice president, that he could not remember the date of his son's death. He has variously said his son died in combat or died in the service. His son died of a brain tumor in Delaware when he was the Attorney General God rest his soul. He goes on about a rosary that he's worn since his son's death then he couldn't remember where he got the rosary started to we said well our lady

31:17 And he stops, as you correctly point out. He identifies the president of Egypt as the President of Mexico in the actual report is remember when he was vice president. He also refers repeatedly to Kamala Harris says President Harris so if anything this has accelerated the process of his removal. It's interesting that just in the last couple weeks, we have read credible reports that Joe Biden wanted to dump Kamala Harris as his running mate. But what I see is a growing possibility Alex is removal of Joe Biden under the 25th Amendment. Remember Trump said that when they floated against him and his last few months in office where they stole election 2020 he said you

32:12 He said two words, 25th Amendment Biden. Remember that club? Yes I do it turns out to be precinct. Let's talk about how that works so the 25th amendment allows for the removal of an elected president for reasons of mental incapacity and all it requires is a majority of the cabinet plus the support of the vice president well Now, would Kamala Harris like to be president? You know that she would. Does she not wanna get dealt out in this shuffle with Michelle Obama and the Obamas? You can bet on that as well plus you can't be very happy about the story she read 10 days ago saying Joe Biden was planning to replace her with Gretchen Whitmer or the governor of Michigan so I really think that a 25th

33:05 The amendment scenario here is increasingly likely. Joe Biden can no longer pretend that the emperor is wearing clothes and he can't have it both ways, either he should be prosecuted for his illegal retention- remember vice presidents are not allowed to retain any documents These are from his time as vice president, also from his time as a US senator. And then arguing the next breath that he's fit enough to control the nuclear codes. Remember how much trouble Sandy Berger got for sticking one secret document in his sock? So the law is very clear so how do they I guess they don't care but this shows a total two tiered justice system

33:49 Where Trump is, again been indicted. Talk about more indictments in New Jersey but of course in Miami by Jack Smith the UN prosecutor it's so obvious just another time where it shows everybody that Joe Biden's above the law You know, does it matter? I think it matters to voters. And that's the important thing that people can see this. I mean, the mainstream media covered that disaster of a press conference last night and I haven't seen anything like that since Richard Nixon angrily said, I'm finished with politics you won't have Nixon to kick around anymore. It was one of those defining moments in Joe is arguing with the press about what the press

34:32 his opinion. So when he's asked whether he is too old, that is your opinion and not the opinions of the press. Ultimately it will be the opinions of people. This guy kind of shows you every week. That what they claim Putin does to control all the press and he does to a great extent but he says I speak for the press, I tell you what the press believes. It was very dictatorial comment Yeah, it was a very telling moment. Again let's look at the process this will become much easier of course if they do remove Joe under the 25th amendment they might let him stay as president and agree not to remove him on the condition that he drop his plans for re-election

35:15 That allows them to do the great switch, which we've talked about. The rules for the Democratic National Convention are very different than the Republicans'. You have this large block of super delegates who are most definitely controlled by Barack Obama. They're elected officials, party officials and so on. I see them taking Biden right up to the convention. They've cleared the field so that he can continue to win delegates, by the way smashing victory by Donald Trump yesterday in Nevada. Some will say well, it was unopposed look at the turnout numbers they were- 16%. So what's gonna happen with Birdbrain? Well we'd have to figure out why Nikki Haley is in this race if she's in this race to Hector and Badger Donald Trump

36:05 on the hopes of getting on the ticket, that's just not going to happen. The days when you saw balance in the party or geographic balance those days are over Trump needs a solid America first make America great. Sure well the Washington Post said it's in case they kill him or he dies that what they said Well, and I think that's why Governor DeSantis is now suddenly pop up talking about all kinds of federal issues. He's talked about term limits, talk about constitutional amendment for a balanced budget. I wish he would stick to his knitting in Florida. We have an insurance crisis. We have utility rate crisis. We have growing crime crisis.

36:45 But he's letting everybody know that he's standing by equipment. Again, I don't think anything is going to deny Donald Trump this nomination. So Nikki Haley is either hanging out for one or two reasons. One because she thinks she can euger her way onto the ticket. That's not going to happen. Like, I guarantee you that. Or she is there as a puppet for the UNA party. on the theory that her attacks on Donald Trump are helpful to Joe Biden or whoever it is they replaced Joe Biden with. All right, Roger you've got the floor here for your predictions and what you think Trump should do? Well I mean actually this plays directly into his hands we're wrangling with the special counsel in both Florida and in DC. In Florida

37:34 I'm not an attorney as you know, but it appears to me they want him to stay in trial for the retention of certain documents. But they won't tell him or the American people what those documents are or what they regard. I don't know how that cannot look unfair to the American people and additionally now he has the additional argument that Joe Biden by his words of his own Justice Department violated the law By the way, this idea that Biden cooperated and Trump didn't. That's not-that's countered contradicted in Mr. Herr's report as well. He did not cooperate. They searched his house without his approval seizing these notebooks that I guess he has somewhere under his television set so.

38:21 Everything we've been told that Biden's case is not as serious because he cooperates, that's all nonsense. So I think this has handed Donald Trump a golden opportunity yet again to drive the point home that he is the target of malicious politically motivated prosecution in both Florida and DC big decisions before the Supreme Court I thought Trump's attorneys did a good job on the issue of ballot access, the so-called Colorado case which really is gonna set the pace for all these illicit anti democratic autocratic efforts to get Trump off the ballot because he is engaged in insurrection. According to what court? That's that's a subjective opinion from some leftist. I think it's going to win that issue. I'm more concerned about the question of presidential immunity

39:15 I'm less confident about that, but I will also make this point. If they decide that Trump does not have immunity for his acts as president well then Barack Obama can be sued for the drone killing of US citizens. He can be sued for illegal surveillance of the communications of James Rosen when he was at Fox or Tucker Carlson when he was contemplating going to Russia and I think more recently. And those are just some of the minor crimes. I mean, if they do away with immunity for the president they're gonna hamper all past presidents who can still be sued if they're living and all future presidents who have to act in their national interest. All right Roger, I would be remissed if I didn't talk about the Tucker Carlson interview that's obviously bigger than Carlson, bigger than Putin it's about trying to stop World War III and it's about the war against the press and the idea

40:11 Tucker couldn't go interview whoever he wants. They're calling for him to be indicted, uh, for the espionage act all of this and then I watched the whole thing last night and watched part of it Again this morning, but all the other news is so pressing. I'm gonna cover it more in a special Saturday show and Sunday and Monday It's so big we need to unpack it all but We saw real intellect no matter what you think about Putin He's obviously strong man And that doesn't play games That he is in charge of a country The fifth largest economy in the world The largest nuclear power And that Tucker asked some pretty tough questions too About hey You need to release that Wall Street Journal journalist right now? I expect to take him home with me I mean Tucker said No Don't don't you debate that he's a hostage

40:52 And Putin at first said, well he's an agent. Well okay we'll probably release him so you can see the respect they mean nobody talks to Putin like that but they know he's so real and the Russians kept saying We just want into the West. We just want to make money with you. We don't wanna be communist anymore. And he used all the examples of NATO and how they tried to enter NATO, all of this. I think the interview was so intellectual it's already gotten hundreds of millions views on X alone It'll get a billion views by the time it's all done one way or another The clips will get tens of billions of views This was one of the biggest interviews ever This is like moon landing level coverage And if the left would have not attacked it, it wouldn't have gotten the views. Again, they the power structure has inherited American greatness I mean you worked with all these really smart and the IQs were higher people are harder working. You worked around Nixon who was really the president and a master of statecraft

41:44 And then I look at people today, especially the Democrats. They are mental midgets who've inherited all this power and they're so dangerous and Tucker brought that up Then you see this incredibly competent shrewd Putin The complete opposite of Biden and it's just It was just an incredible illustration That's my take What is your take? Well, first of all it was fascinating. Obviously Putin he's got the cold steely eyes of a killer clearly in command of the facts. An interesting sense of humor pushed back several times. He detailed the treachery of dealing with United States under George HW Bush who basically said I had a great relationship with him except for he lied to me his frustration

42:33 with what he thought would happen after the fall of the Iron Curtain. I was thinking as I watched this how disappointed Nixon would have been because we had an opportunity to achieve a real lasting peace, we clearly had an opportunity to have a missile defense system that might have protected us from Islamic maniacs, but the Russians clearly seem to be repelled. What's laughable Alex is this guy John Kirby who was the spokesman for the Defense Department urging people not to watch I mean can you imagine? Not to watch- Well number one doesn't he know when you tell your kids like your dad says don't get in my playboys The first thing you do when he goes to play golf is getting the Playboys Yeah exactly so in this different case He says

43:22 But don't watch him, Vladimir Putin is not credible. Well sadly based on what we know Mr. Putin is substantially more credible than John Kirby meant just days ago the people in this administration were telling us that our southern border was secure just for an example. So you're right there's a huge amount there it's 127 minutes I watched every bit of it It's very interesting how hysterical the left is just based on the idea that people will be exposed to Putin's arguments. It shows they've lost control and others signed them, they're totally dead. How would a genius of Putin level there? I mean how would have Nixon if he was president today? How would Richard Nixon deal with Putin?

44:12 I think he would see opportunity for both peace and prosperity for both our countries. These people have the nuclear bomb, you can't just keep brushing them off and lying to them. That historical beginning which I thought in the beginning might just be stonewalling, he laid that out for a specific reason. We've missed classic opportunity. I don't have the benign view of China that he does. I think China- And I agree, that was the biggest thing is this Yeezy pink thing and Russia's never trusted China but now they're having to work with them because of the war but absolutely Putin basically said we're 1100 years old man We're not communist and I don't like Lenin giving Ukraine away and explained all that He was like dude were not communists! He said we are Orthodox Christians, we are having a bunch of babies, we want to make money leave us alone

45:04 That's a very good summation of the arguments. I kind of think it's funny that no one called for the prosecution of George Stephanopoulos when he interviewed Putin, nobody called for the prosecution of Mike Wallace when he interviewed Putin Nobody called for the prosecution of Barbara Walters when she interviewed Putin. He's the same guy then as he was now. Roger, I know you gotta go but I got to go on a break can you hold until 5 averages just to finish up with how you think they're gonna move against Trump next and then also tell us where we find your show? Sure, absolutely.

48:04 Stonezone.com, absolutely Wow look at that amazing individual right there That's a survivor That's a fighter That's a maverick I have the coolest job I can know all the cool people man Tucker Carlson, Roger Stone Joe Rogan everybody else. Wow I love my job and i get to know all of you we'll be right back in two minutes with Roger Stone then David Icke the enemies of humanity have been very good at dividing and conquering us but if we simply start thinking about things according to the definition of is it pro-human or as an anti-human? We start to win and that's why I had the idea for team humanity I brought up Elon Musk he loved the idea what would you call the debate discussions

48:43 about a pro-human future, just Team Humanity? Yeah. Team Humanity absolutely! And so we have the t-shirt team humanity with the nuclear family standing against the globalists this shirt is a great conversation starter but it also is a fundraiser to keep InfoWars on the air so you can promote and support Team Humanity I want to thank you all for your past support but I wanna encourage you all now understand that this is a revolution against the globalists, and it is so critical now to signal the fact that you are part of Team Humanity. We're told humans are the problem we're told were killing Earth. Were told all this garbage so we hate ourselves and stand down and roll over and die. We're not going to do that get your team humanity shirts now at mfullworthstore.com I thank you all for your support in the last nine years Putin has told the West and NATO hundreds of times face-to-face

49:32 At every major meeting, I'm gonna invade Ukraine if you continue to push out the Russians and move weapons in and have them join NATO. because that is not Russia's doorstep. That's where Russia was born, and Putin gave it a history lesson on the air station. I predicted he'd do that. I nailed it in the first hour. I did a little 10-minute history lesson myself so you'll probably hear this because that's what Putin trying to explain to people. And the same globalist arrogance now they've lost Ukraine, Ukraine's defeated they're getting ready get rid of Zelensky but they keep doubling down. So on politics as positive things are strong as Trump is They just keep escalating.

50:09 Next for them to throw at Trump and what can we do to protect President Trump? I know a big thing is he's run out of money when it comes to his campaign And the media is giggling and laughing about that. So just because he's ahead doesn't mean he doesn't need support and donations I think we can't get over confident here is what I'm saying Roger What do you think? Alex, I totally agree with that. One of the things that surprised me in these court proceedings over the last 10 days as you know former Attorney General Ed Meese who was Ronald Reagan's attorney general had filed an amicus brief with US Supreme Court saying that the appointment

50:45 was to in any jurisdiction. In fact, the court specifically asked Trump's lawyer to be prepared to comment on that issue based I guess solely on the mis- So that's total sabotage? Seriously because so many Trump lawyers have been indicted. People who don't know the law when the judge asks, I want you to brief me on this, that's what you do. That's like first grade level understanding to not do that. This is insane.

51:50 Well, look it is possible that there's some strategy here. I'm not a lawyer but it would seem to me its legitimate action could certainly be filed in the Florida case excellent piece online about this by a couple of non-Trump loving law school professors who are most definitely not fans of Donald Trump, but make a compelling case over the actual underlying legal issues. Trump is at the top of his game both politically and personally he knows he's winning. He knows that more than the underlying issue surrounding this disastrous war in Ukraine unfolds

52:33 The two tier justice system vis-a-vis how he's treated compared to Joe Biden and the retention. All these things work to his advantages, Alex I'm obviously I pray for his personal safety and yes, I agree with you there is no limit those globalists will do to try to hold on to power. But I have a feeling that God is going to answer our prayers, I have a feeling that Donald Trump is going to be back in the White House. I have a feeling that he's going to ride to the rescue and save this country people should support him. Go to donaldjtrump.com, donaldjtrump.com you can make a contribution if you don't want to use your credit card because you don't trust the Internet, you can mail him a check

53:20 But yes, his campaign needs money. The Wall Street types the billionaires and millionaires they're not for Donald Trump He has to rely on the same people who go to the influence People ask if he's real he's getting on average like $50 donations in Haley's getting you know hundred thousand dollar donations She sees with the New World Order. He's not That is exactly right. So the average person, small businessperson man or woman Trump needs your support go to Donald J Trump dot com and then go to the Infowars store because this nitrous boost stuff is unbelievable Roger we love you will talk to you soon Godspeed You just get better and better many thanks Alex god bless you that is a political badass folks That's why they attacked him because he's one of our best brains. That's the field marshal right there see ya buddy

54:06 All right, David Ike coming up. I love him but he says i'm a minion now we'll be right back stay with us all right i've been wanting to get him on for months and we've got him best-selling author former top BBC broadcaster former head of the Green Party but better known the last 35 years since he got thunderstruck with a vision of the coming new world order. I really respect him I know he's a great guy David Ike is here with us and I think he serves a great purpose, you know being kind of the counterbalance to Elon Musk and the things he's been doing. But i'll be honest, I see Elon moving if he was pointed towards the new world order five years ago, I see him moving rapidly

54:49 you know, in a 180. And so I'm positive for the good changes happening and how it's helping accelerate the awakening. I'm not going to turn the lights off and turn my back on Elon Musk but that said i don't think it's fair when David comes up with this term of the mainstream alternative media or ma'am or minions of Elon Musk...I'm also not looking at gift horse in the mouth I'm not censoring a damn thing i say. I am more hardcore than ever been and you got Joe Rogan coming out saying Alex Jones is right about everything, new world order with Aaron Rodgers we gotta stop him. I mean...I know Joe for 25 years he's not an operative he is waking up completely just like David Icke did 35 years ago

55:33 And so that's where I'm at on this. And, I turned down the $10 million a year contracts and the book deals to be The New Rush Limbaugh, Roger Ailes Fox News shows because they were straight up you're going to work for us now? You're gonna do what we say? No! But if somebody says here your banned off this and now you can counter everybody who has been attacking you then I mean, I'm gonna use it. Okay? Now that doesn't mean I'm going to put my knee pads on and give Elon Musk a blowjob so I'm gonna let you run with this and I don't really want to have a debate. I called it a debate because that makes it more interesting but a thought-provoking discussion but I will say David, I admire you while your criticizing me and I get your daughter died and I am sorry for that what a beautiful creature she's still alive we all know that she transcended

56:20 interface with her completely soon. But beautiful stuff you've done, I retweeted it and i'm sending emails and I get it when your spam that happens to me too as part of the censorship It's one of the biggest areas is those spam blockers And then I'm trying to get you on saying, hey, I don't think this while I've been called this minion thing. It's a little hurtful and not mad at you because I respect you as a friend and love ya but...and I know that's mutual You know I am real But I have not been seduced by the dark side I'm not dancing to the fiddle of Elon Musk Go ahead sir Right, well first of all I'm not saying that people shouldn't use Twitter X. Of course they should use it! I use it It's a vehicle at the moment for as long as it lasts to get information out and M in Mam doesn't stand for minion it stands for mainstream and there has become a mainstream alternative media which is dominated the airwaves if you like

57:22 And if we could just start before we get into Musk, one of the things that I've observed and that is that when I started out there was no alternative media. There's just a one or two people and I watched the alternative media emerge. Although it was still seeing left than right to a certain extent there was a lot of streetwise people who were realizing that left and right is a puppet show. And the real decisions that are working through left and right, are being made by deeper levels than the left-right political level what I call the global cult. And creating a dialectic where they play the two sides of golf against which you pioneered exposing?

58:20 Yeah, but one of the expressions of the global cult level down is what people call the deep state. So when you look at a situation maybe we can get into elements of that Putin interview in regard to this later on, you see up the left and right level where left there are liberals were against the liberals But you go a step deeper into the rabbit hole, into the web to the cult level. And what appears to be the situation here can be very different here and what I've noticed particularly since COVID is that this what I call mainstream of the alternative media that gets all the numbers basically has regressed back into this left right paradigm

59:20 So if you look at the Putin interview, and there was a lot that I agreed with. I've been pointing out for years and years and years that NATO was poking him in the chest to get into invade Ukraine. But if you look at it from this level, you've got a Putin interview with Tucker Carlson. And the response is, look the liberals don't want it! Look at the liberals hey it's great innit? But go deeper and look at the bigger agenda and that is the dismantling of Western society under dismantling of Western power in the world. That's why they put a moron in the White House for the last four bloody years or whatever it is three years

1:00:13 And that's why they've opened the southern border. That's why they've opened the borders to Europe, because they are dismantling Western culture and what is happening is the power in the world is moving eastward It's moving to China and it's moving to their alliance with Russia, and the East in general. And Iran is part of that as well, and the BRICS- And the globalists have to know their policies are doing that! Just to be fair then let's interject here I'm not the apologist for Elon Musk here but what i'm saying is He has come out massively against the open borders says this will destroy western culture as well. He sounds like David Icke and Alex Jones

1:00:58 Yeah, yeah. But it's easy to words are easy telling you what you want to hear me I'll get more into Musk as we go along the questions that are not being asked and it should be but anyway what I'm saying is that you've got this movement eastward in terms of power quite demonstrably That's where the BRICS thing is all about And so over a period of time because you're coming from this cult level Not left and right The cult level that works through left and right So, over this period this cult has been orchestrating the transfer of global production massively out of America. American corporations and American jobs and Europe too into China in the east.

1:01:43 to give them power over the supply chain in so many areas, even basic things. And Taiwan is this real global center for things like superconductors and what have you. And if China takes that- Well yeah mainly the chips for AI are almost all made there Yeah So if China gets that and that's the plan in the end then they completely dominate global society in so many ways. And so if you look at the Putin interview, and you look at it not from left right or the liberals don't like it, you look at the cult level, it suits the cult that the pushbackers in America and Europe and the West in general see Putin as some kind of hero because what was he doing

1:02:44 In the interview with Tucker Carlson, he was pushing China. You shouldn't not stop negotiating with China or China's foreign policy is not aggressive. You tell the people of Africa and South America that it's not aggressive so it suits that cult level for Putin to be a hero. I'm not saying you didn't say some right things about About Ukraine. I'm saying by the way, David I totally agree with you and that was the big area Was him saying America's been surpassed China is the way to go GG pings not expansion Tori But but we know that the globalist set up communist China put them in power in 49 Transferred all this stuff to them now nine years ago They claim there was a split and then this is all going on take us to the end of your extrapolation as our spectra view So what? What so what she got

1:03:38 As I've said so many times, China is the blueprint for the world. What's happening in China in terms of control and suppression and the digital concentration- It's the model! It's the model and that was set up to be the model. So what I'm saying is, you know if you look at it at left and right then you can see it a certain way in most people have but if you look at it from this cult big picture level then what you have is the pushbackers of the West kind of seeing Putin as some kinda hero when he's absolutely embed with the Chinese that the push back is there is a danger

1:04:22 So, what people need to- And Putin and Putin and we're having a discussion here. Usually I have you on, you just run because I love hearing you but I want to add some things We have Putin praising Elon Musk saying he's an amazing wonderful person and Elon won't talk about China. I was waiting for you to bring that up That's the one big thing I see Elon is up to there You talk about Neuralink too but it's the China thing Yeah, well we can get into Musk as we go along. The point I'm making here is that the power is moving east and the more that Sure, but my point is David you say it wasn't minion. I know ma'am means You know mainstream alternative media But there were little comments and don't have the tweets in front of me the X things It was like little groveling people to that. Let me finish I'm saying you're here exposing Hey, well, I'm talking about Elon being with China and Putin too So I'm doing this every day just like you are so when you say that that oh, I'm

1:05:21 I'm changing, because you put my name on there. When you're saying...I'm trying to be straight up with you when you're saying I'm changing what I'm saying. I don't think you're tuning in cause I'm saying the same stuff you were saying buddy and I agree with you. Alex it's not about you mate and it's not about me It's about what the hell is happening in the world? That's the point I'm making now if we move Elon Musk, the thing that I've been observing is that so many things that he would have been questioned about. Let's personalize this. I'm talking about the mainstream alternative media in general before he took over Twitter turned it into X but the same things are not being questioned in the same way.

1:06:13 The foundation of human control, where we're going is connecting the human brain to artificial intelligence. Not least via the cloud, the electromagnetic cloud 5G 6G 7G to come which is being generated by the towers but fundamentally if you want it global its being generated by low orbit satellites Now, without this cloud this agenda cannot happen. This is the cloud that Ray Kurzweil at Google talks about where he said that the human brain is going to be connected to the cloud artificial intelligence and then he says artificial intelligence will do more and more of human thinking until human thinking as we know it is basically negligible so this cloud is fundamental

1:07:12 And SpaceX, Elon Musk's of SpaceX. is leading the way in putting up low orbit satellites to beam this stuff at the earth. And so, the question is if you are against this new world order there's human control system and hive mind why are you facilitating it? I'm bragging about it in posts on Twitter X that your pulling these low orbit satellites out there And, you know, if Elon Musk is such a rebel, such a threat to the system. How come that

1:07:53 SpaceX gets all these contracts, the massive amounts of money from people like NASA and the Pentagon. Only a few months ago they were awarded a contract by the Pentagon to take over and create something called Starshield which is the military government communication system version of Starlink Now these things should be questioned. When Tucker Carlson interviews Elon Musk, when Joe Rogan interviews Elon Musk they should be asking how do you square this? The connection to the cloud is meant to be via chipping and here we have Neuralink from someone who says AI could be the end of humanity

1:08:50 and yet turns out more and more AI stuff, the Neuralink has just had the first human trial. Now I think it's a bit of a kind of diversion because the real connection to the cloud is through nanotechnology not least that which was in the-and is in the fake vaccine but it's still going down the same road of chipping... Okay so David you're great Great, you're a guy that does a great job lecturing and I agree with everything you're saying but let me just interject as your bringing this up. I'm just making my point mate! You get about 80% of the time so all i'm saying is and im not trying to be mean to you but... I don't care mate! It's okay we are friends aren't we? I like you, you like me

1:09:47 Yeah, just go ahead with what you say. No but I'm gonna ask you do you think iIm an agent of the new world order? The point is as I've said many times you don't have to be a knowing agent of the cult. But if you have, if you have a certain mentality and your focus for instance on left right politics and that's the they're the people that get the promotion and their numbers then you don't have to be part of it You just have to be No I agree And I'm the guy who coined the term Left Right Paradigm What I am trying to say here is

1:10:28 If I saw the left waking up and taking on the globalist, I would support that. It's not a leftist thing it's a populist awakening and i see the major beachhead worldwide of populism being called right wing so that just identifies that but but I totally get what you're saying But here here's what I want to agree with you on When he came out and said, we're going to put it in shopping malls and everybody's gonna get brain chips five years ago. I said look they've already got this in government laboratories Microsoft is doing at IBM He's popularizing and I don't like this Then he backed off that which I thought was a terrible idea you have brain chips go to school but if somebody is paralyzed or somebody who's blind then I think the technology is great The problem is what Trojan horses will they put in? That says...I just wanted to add that so I'm not an apologist for Elon Musk I've just been looking at all the angles of it Go ahead

1:11:15 Yeah, well as I was saying is a company Neuralink is pushing the way at least popularizing the concept of a brain chip connecting to artificial intelligence. And if you connect to artificial intelligence, artificial intelligence becomes your mind and then you've got another agenda. These are all WEF agendas by the way which is autonomous vehicles, where the computer will decide where you can and cannot go not your personal choice. And so you have Tesla. So what I'm saying is, you look at the companies and the things that are done with these front in up

1:12:03 And these need to be questioned. And since he took over Twitter X, in very large areas they're ceasing to be questioned. I'll give you an example- No, I think that's fair and I want you to make your point but then after you're done because I don't wanna forget this let's just say you're completely right. That's why we have you here cause we're not censoring and I respect you and love really liked you a lot David even though they are little perturbed with me Let's say he is a terrible guy. What is their plan with him then? And why are they doing this, why are they having him act like he's on our side that shows me we're really winning big time if they're having to send him in and try to co-op things but just go ahead right well yeah I'll come to that in a second and I want to but I just want to make this point there's a Dutch actually I'm not picking up picking on her it's just a good example This is something that is across the board

1:12:55 There's a Dutch activist called Eva Vlandingebroek, and she did a video maybe just over a year ago. And it was excellent! It was her speaking and she said Elon Musk is not your friend he is pushing the world towards transhumanism And she was right, round of applause. But the same Eva today is like a lovesick teenager in relation to Elon Musk. Oh yeah, Elon this, Elon that. Elon drops a tweet supporting one of hers. Oh thank you, Elon! This is not where we should be going. We shouldn't be eulogizing anyone. We should be dispassionately calmly looking at everything

1:13:45 let's just look at some. The AI agenda and how this fits in you've got people your your- bill Gates is a yes cloud Schwab's I'm what they're doing is going hard sell hard sell A. I. connecting AI to the human brain and human genetics that's what needs to happen but of course there's a vast number of what I call pushbackers in the United States, in Europe and the world in general that don't want that. They're not having that. And by the way Bill Gates came out three months ago and said we've got to stop the hard sell he actually said that? Yeah well so along comes Elon Musk and Elon Musk does the soft sell

1:14:40 He is saying oh i'm worried about a i always said very terrible could be the end of humanity and then continues to push the agenda but it's not too bad it can't be as bad because he wants doing any on switcher and people. back on Twitter. And these are the things I'm saying that, you know we've got to keep questioning these- Not what you're saying they did five years of total censorship and it failed so they said go to plan B and bring in a co-opter create a false dialectic of Elon on one end of freedom and the hard sellers on the other and you're saying now we're missing the whole paradigm over there because they put us into a small window

1:15:24 What I'm saying is, look at the outcome. What is the outcome of the hard sell? What is the outcome of this soft sell? At the end of those roads is the same thing I I agree with most of what you're saying, but you've made statements and things so i'm not bad for interjecting and bringing things up and telling you. I'm saying the same thing I do. Good good! I'm doing the same thing I do every day You'r on, I love it And that's what we are doing So im not maam Im not part o maam Let's just get that straight Alright We had David Icahn with us We'll be right back We will talk about this more It is fascinating

1:16:20 Gunther in Tennessee. Thanks for calling, Gunther. Hey Alex first time caller real quick wanted to plug your foundational energy just started taking that and what three pills the recommended dose I was bouncing off the walls but uh i tell you foundational is the right name for that product because I'll cut down to one. It's like you have a baseline of energy that you were missing before, that you got back so... Well i'm glad you mentioned that because it's methylfolate the breakdown of folic acid and a lot of people particularly Europeans don't absorb all of the folic acid So it's not a stimulant it's a totally natural thing that boosts energy That's foundational and was I lying to or did not work?

1:17:00 No, it was top notch and I was actually taking Red Pill Plus before and that's got a little folic acid in it. And I think there was a little buildup from this but the energy from this with no jitters, I mean its top notch. It is great product Well thank you so much! Yeah, now folic acids are great as in real red pill but some can't break it down This is the breakdown of it That exactly right Alright, I get David Icke's point about the new Hollywood is Elon Musk But the system knew they were failing and that all the independent media just a year ago had all the biggest audiences despite the censorship, it was failing. So if you go with David's argument let's just do this for not devils advocate but David Icke advocate They said okay send in Elon Musk and then give them limited freedom there And then we'll be in control of the narrative again If that's the truth well It shows the systems failing and I'm gonna remember you on my show

1:17:53 In like 2000, I mean you've been coming on my show. The first time we interviewed was like 1997 or something but I remember you in the early 2000s saying part of my download is your downloads have proven really accurate so I respect you but then I think you can't look at what other people are doing and with a wide net and say oh they've been co-opted no it's just people being positive about it breaching the wall uh whoever blew it You're like I see a global awakening Starting in 2016, they try to suppress it. And then by 2025 we're gonna decide where we're going that if we make the right decision I'm paraphrasing and we can beat them by 2030 If not they'll still get beaten That's what you were saying then I could dig the clips up and i don't think Trump is perfect or anybody is perfect but my point is You nailed that! An-and...I go to the grocery store and five years ago would get screamed at I'd shake 30 40 hands but I be screamed 2 3 times

1:18:49 It's been a year and half, I've been screamed at twice. And everywhere I go to pump gas or walk the dog or you know, go anywhere all I see is positive it doesn't mean i'm perfect but I mean I know I'm real and I just see a huge awakening happening and that goes to your point well they're going to need to co-opted so how would they strike back? It'd be something like much... Yeah but yeah the thing is Alex uh you're kind of missing my point I'm not saying there's not a global awakening. When I started out in 1990, you couldn't fill a phone booth with- David, I'm not missing what you said. I said there was a global awakening and you're saying Musk is trying to coopt it? That's just what I just said! Okay well...I misunderstood you then but the thing is that um.. I'm not saying there's not a global awakening There is But if you know If you are this cult

1:19:40 you want to take it into a cold. That's what I said, are you saying that's what they see? Not making it personal and let's just have a discussion about about what's going on so the question then is What happened when Elon Musk purchased Twitter okay because that was the change that was the change that's when So many people in the alternative media started eulogizing him instead of questioning him and exposing him as they would have done if he hadn't bought Twitter. So, he's bought Twitter and he puts out the Twitter files and he shows that Twitter's operation who could post then what could be posted was basically completely controlled by The Deep State

1:20:36 And if you said to people, was Twitter controlled by the deep state before Elon Musk? They'd say yeah. Oh the Twitter files they showed it. Yeah okay so the deep state was in a position that was exactly what it wanted then. It was controlling the narrative who could post and who couldn't just like Facebook and YouTube and all these people So my question is why did they sell it to Musk then Who is supposed to be this free speech absolutist? Why would they do that? And then you ask, okay. So what's happened as a result and what's happened as a result is exactly what I'm talking about and challenging which is people have stopped questioning all the ways that this man is serving

1:21:26 the agenda of the cult and the World Economic Forum, etc. They've stopped doing it in a way they would have done had he not bought and run Twitter! The guy's still... demanding a carbon tax. He wants a guaranteed income, all these are World Economic Forum policies he's still doing it in terms of the carbon tax going way back he spoke at this Paris climate You're right, Dini reposted stuff from a few years ago and I'm not defending him but he's not been promoting it now. But he has a few years ago you're right He needs to answer for that so give us your 35 thousand foot view here What do you think is happening? Why were they forced if you're right to bring him in and where do you think this is going And how we respond

1:22:19 Well, where it's going in part in relation to Twitter X is described by Linda Iaccarino the CEO. By the way, interrupt and start over you're right, I'm wrong, I didn't know this he just a few days ago called for carbon tax that's the video you put out was old You're right He did it there It is right there David Icke That's right Put it back on screen Start over David Yeah so Linda Iaccarino who's got very major World Economic Forum connections, starts talking about freedom of speech but not freedom of reach. What is that? Shadow banning! She talks about the fact that if it's lawful but awful – it's lawful

1:23:11 Who decides if it's awful? Oh, well we do. If it's lawful but awful then you're gonna really struggle to see it and find it now this is not a free speech platform now what this means is through your algorithms You can emphasize people you want to be seen and you wanna be promoted, and you want people to follow them and think that's where it's at. And then those that are not then you start shadow banning them. There are many many people who were on Twitter decent people who were putting stuff out Josh Sigerson being one

1:23:49 Who was clearly shadow banned by the numbers that they get. And so this is the start of a slippery slope, but the point is it's not Elon Musk or Twitter or whatever. It's how that has stopped much of the alternative media that would have been calling him out for these services to the cult, services to the WEF agenda but are not doing it now. And the other thing that's happening in the mainstream alternative media is that people are coming in since COVID

1:24:31 And are now being promoted as the people we're supposed to listen to, the people that get massive audiences when they are given interviews with Tucker Carlson. People like Brett Weinstein and Brett Weinstein's interviewed on Tucker Carlson as if he is some kind of expert an activist on COVID. This is a man who bought every aspect of COVID virtually There's a video of him during the fake pandemic. describing how he wore a scarf around his neck so he could pull it up over his face every time he answered the door. And now we're being told that this guy is supposed to be the COVID activist that gets the massive numbers on Tucker Carlson! What about all of people who were calling in out in 2020, Tucker? Well I was and you were but David let me just stop you there and actually wrote some notes on this and forgot at the house but its one my points

1:25:32 Brett Weinstein when he went on Tucker admitted he was wrong and said that it's all a lie, there is a global government takeover or being invaded. And the borders are open in the new world order is real and there's a global government we just I don't know if you watch the full interview about Tucker wants to interview me so my point is I know Tucker for real Tucker is really woken up now Yes, we do.

1:26:09 But where are the people that caught it out of the time? Where's their promotion, the ones who could see it at the start because of the research they'd done before. That didn't buy it like Brett Weinstein because they've done the research- I'll say this, let me just say this. We're having a debate. Just a second, now just a second you're picking up that I'm saying that Tucker Carlson is a bad person. I'm not saying that! It's what your mentality is, how much you know about the big picture. Who you choose to interview or not interview? Who you choose to promote and not promote that's your choice- So you're trying to point this out to get people to think deeper. Of course I am! That's the whole point The thing is we're getting caught again

1:27:02 on the left, right kind of puppet show vaudeville show and not going to that step beyond it which is where both sides are being manipulated. And seeing what... No I agree so let me ask you this let me ask some questions here David. I know we can talk for 10 hours everybody loves ya but lemme ask some questions here because you teed this up we gotta have some of these tell us cuz i respect you Big visionaries of our age, if not the top two or three. Where would must take us if we fall for this? If you're right where do they want to take us versus what do you think we should do

1:27:39 Well, where they want to take us both the hard cell and the soft cell is to a connection between the human brain at the human body and artificial intelligence. See that the hard cell says this is why we must go. We should go look all the fantastic things will be gods says Ray Kurzweil And Elon Musk says, well I'm worried but you know there's no stopping it. So if we're not going to get left behind by artificial intelligence we've got to have an artificial intelligence connection so that we don't go left behind by artificial intelligence and at the end of the day what happens is

1:28:17 Humans are connected to artificial intelligence. And that is something that must not happen because the moment it does, its over. So let's talk good news I agree. I'm going to shut up for five minutes. Hold on David, this a discussion and debate. As AI tells you to think! Therefore we must resist that at all times and that means investigating and highlighting and calling out Elon Musk when he's trying to get us to go down that road, just as we're calling out Schwab and Gates for in another way telling us to go down that road.

1:29:00 Because I love when we come on the show and always give you the floor, and i'll give you 80% of time. But this is more of a debate discussion here so just please let me ask these questions You're saying this is good cop bad cop with Elon Musk as the good cop And Bill Gaines and Klaus Schwab As the bad cops If that's right, you're talking about solutions What do we then counter this? Well, we absolutely do not buy having a connection to artificial intelligence in any way shape or form. That's the bottom line because it's over once we do Artificial intelligence will be doing your thinking for you. It will be doing your emotional responses for you, that's the whole idea! I've been writing for decades about the plan to create a hive mind which can be centrally controlled and so how do they do that? Well they put chips inside you actually nanochips inside like i said earlier in so many ways this neural link thing is a diversion

1:30:02 And you could get connected to the electromagnetic technologically generated cloud which these people are creating with their low orbit satellites, Elon Musk and SpaceX being at the forefront of it. And if that happens, and I say that self-replicating technology to connect people to the cloud was in the fake vaccines. Those kinds of, of course there were many saline I'm sure as well but those self replicating systems that have been shown in the blood

1:30:40 of people who had the fake vaccine that's what's supposed to connect us to the cloud. And every single space X satellite that goes up there and all the other companies doing it but then the leader new- five G. tower and six G. seven G. tower to come he's building this cloud to which we are supposed to be connected this is the this is the bottom line this is what has to be stopped this is what we have to refuse to cooperate with but- you know if kind of focused on the left, right kind of Biden Trump stuff. I'm not saying people shouldn't look at that, of course they should but it's the big picture that's being obscured by that focus of attention. All right David i've got a million questions and I'm not trying to be mean to you just in

1:31:40 Place debate you said I'm gonna stop here. He said don't make it personal I'm not gonna be an asshole and read these things all I'm telling you is is that I am not a minion of the system. I will use any avenue I can and I see a big bandwagon waking up with the New World Order, I can't help but get excited. I do smell the double cross and I'm going to say this when they first put me on X in a little bit after I watched that when I did certain things and exposed certain things like China and things suddenly we weren't reaching 10 million people or 5 million people per post We've been dialed back And we're seeing that now that the conservatives all come in and now even talk about some of the biggest accounts

1:32:18 They're seeing it too. So I think you're going in the right direction here Let's talk about who you from your research think Elon Musk is I know you say they want to connect us to AI. I agree, we know that's the plan but i'm saying who do you think he is? Why was he chosen and where do you think this is going and so many questions the election Russia The wars how are they gonna what new crisis Is the globalist system gonna use a new virus I mean just kind of give us We're 10 minutes to break 9 minutes to break up trying to give me the floor Give us your prognosis or forecast Yeah, well yeah and I will but just let me say this in response to what you've just said. You can use X to get information out knowing what it is.

1:33:06 without describing Elon Musk as the biggest maverick in the last 500 years, mate. He ain't the biggest maverick in the last 500 minutes and if you ask me about who he is, he's a front man, he's a salesman. Do you know I had to bloody laugh when he said on The Joe Rogan one of The Joe Rogan interviews That he spent 80% of his time designing and engineering. At the same time that he runs all these companies apparently and tweets on Twitter, X all the time. I mean it's ridiculous is a front man other people in the background are running the show but he's a very good salesman. He's selling the electric car autonomous car thingies. He's selling the microchip. He's saying oh look you know we're

1:34:05 We've got more and more Starlink connections and satellites. Isn't it great? Oh yeah, Elon! Without people realizing actually the prison is being built all around them so he's a front man and what we need to do is take everything on its merits without falling for the hype and that means that we will question these people, whether they run Twitter X or not. We question them. We look at what they do not what they say and therefore we don't fall for the scam. So where I'm going with this is that if you are flying down a freeway

1:34:54 And you've got the outcome at the end, which is this stuff becomes so well known that action is taken to bring it down. Then you want to take people off the freeway? You want to take them down the slip road and ideally you want to put him in a cul-de-sac and this is what I'm talking about when I'm saying that focus on left right politics. Is a cul-de-sac not that it doesn't have to be looked at but if that's what all we're looking at that there the answers then we gonna sit there while the cloud and AI and all the rest of it. And the digital currencies putins bring planning to bring in a digital currency. Putin did all this stuff like lockdowns during

1:35:47 I mean, are we really so naive that we think that Russia is different? There's a global cult. It works through America and Canada and Europe and China but not Russia. It's ridiculous. And so we've got to get out of this idea of just looking at left, right and go to the next level. Well let me tell you that level that's controlling and manipulating a playing like the string section, the left-right paradigm or the left-right perception. Let me throw this in real quick then continue

1:36:30 I just learned about this the last four or five days. A lot of really prominent anti-globalist people, and i'm told i'm about to be invited are being are being invited to the global government summit The one Elon went you know was on yesterday last year and said we don't want global government They're now inviting a bunch of Anti-globalists to their events what's that about? Well, they're trying to co-opt the alternative media. This is all part of the soft sell. Sure and I think that goes with what you're saying yeah And we have to hold the line! You know, the alternative media is something that questions everything

1:37:14 And it doesn't eulogize anybody and it doesn't treat anyone as a God, whether they're Musk or Putin or Trump or anyone. It dispassionately looks at events and looks at evidence and concludes from that dispassionately what's going on once you start believing in somebody then your ability to be dispassionate is massively diluted. The alternative media must not get pulled into that. I totally agree, like you have ICONIC, we have Band.Video and Infowars.com We should use places like X and Rumble and other places to energize our independent platforms but everybody shouldn't just only put their eggs in one basket. We need to decentralise Well the thing is if everything goes on to x

1:38:06 everything is focused on X, then it's pulled in terms of freedom of speech. It already is for some people then it's over and this is the other thing you know about TwitterX and Elon Musk he changed the name to x and fused into something so twitter disappeared into something called XCOR But the parent company of X Corp that actually owns TwitterX is called X Holdings Corporation. And some TwitterX employees who are running a court case trying to get some compensation for being fired, they demanded last summer that the shareholders of X Holdings Corporation, the parent company of Twitter, the ultimate owners be revealed

1:39:04 And they revealed the list, except that every single name including Elon Musk's. I believe we've got an idea he is one of them was redacted and then they asked X asked the judge to have a situation which she agreed to whereby the lawyers would be told what the list was of the employees, X. But it's not made public and that they cannot take it any further. And what did come out of this list of redactions is that there's 95 of them? Who are they? Why don't we know? Come on Elon, let's have you!

1:39:54 Let's see who the 95 shareholders are of X Holdings Corporation so we know who actually owns this deal. You know, we're talking about transparency. Right? And we got to go on a break and we did speaking of X, We have an x spaces going in sometimes Elon pops into these. We've sent invites to him I don't know if he is but this is not our regular lecture. We love you once you come on three hours you just lecturers all the time. You got a new book coming out hope you come back next week. I hope you come on next week and just particularly talk about the book

1:40:31 But we're gonna bring in some folks with questions and comments randomly off of X when we come back. You'll have some more time to finish up, you can stay the whole next hour if you want, or leave it 30 minutes if you want but we gotta start the third hour right now with David Icke. People can find all his work at davideicke.com and you can also find at iconic.com and we have the David Ike channel on band dot video, which we've seen band out video get a lot less traffic since we're on X that's not good because we have all those other great contributors on there so i'll get what david saying

1:41:08 We'll be right back with our number three and we're live on Spaces On X. Stay with us! The enemies of humanity have been very good at dividing and conquering us, but if we simply start thinking about things according to the definition of is it pro-human or it's anti human? We start to win. And that's why I had the idea for Team Humanity. I brought up Elon Musk he loved the idea What would you call the debate discussions about a pro human future just team humanity Yeah, team humanity absolutely And so we have the t-shirt, Team Humanity with a Nuclear Family standing against the globalists. This shirt is a great conversation starter but it also is a fundraiser to keep InfoWars on the air so you can promote and support Team Humanity I want to thank you all for your past support but I wanna encourage you all now

1:41:51 that this is a revolution against the globalists, and it is so critical now to signal the fact that you are part of Team Humanity. We're told humans are the problem we're told were killing Earth, we're told all this garbage so we hate ourselves and stand down and roll over and die. We're not going do that get your team humanity shirts now at mfullworthstore.com I thank you all for your support All right, well David's raised some really important thoughts. We should always investigate everything and look at every angle and I tend to lean what direction he is going but also won't look a gift horse in the mouth. I'm gonna use X, I'm gonna ride the horse till it dies or till we win or till I am kicked off of it but David we got a short segment here because some stations join us you've agreed to do some x questions from people on x spaces coming up uh David though we got four minutes to break what else is on your radar screen?

1:42:39 Well, I'm writing a book at the moment. It's deep, deep, deep in the rabbit hole book which is what ultimately controls the cult that controls humanity and of course We've talked about this before, that force is not actually human and doesn't actually operate in this reality we call human. So that's what I'm writing at the moment and it's very deep stuff and amazing stuff because what starting to happen is that some of the things a lot of things that I've been writing about over the decades in relation to all this and got so much abuse

1:43:24 ridicule for, a lot of people in science now who are coming from that direction are starting to say it makes sense. And they're kind of explaining it from their point-of-view of how it can work like this is a virtual reality simulation that we're experiencing just across the water I live on an island just off the south coast of England And just before Christmas, there was a guy, physicist from Portsmouth University in all the papers in Britain talking about the fact that he believed that

1:44:01 We do live in a simulation. There's lots of scientists now who are starting to see that it makes sense of what otherwise is an unexplainable world, and I've been writing and saying that since not long after the turn of the millennium. So there's a lot of things coming together of the real big picture variety that needs to be understood by people so we can see where this is really coming from and not just focus only on the symptoms but see where the cause is. So I'm a bit kind of bewildered because I'm answering the question and then someone's saying to me, keep going David. Is Alex disappearing? What's going on?

1:44:54 No, David. I actually jumped up because they have to have my phone to connect to X because we're about to take... All right! Okay. Bye. I was literally just handing him my phone and we're about to take the calls. So I got an earpiece in so I just walked over there to hand him a phone he stopped right when I got out of here. See? Here I'm listening to you see little receiver here. Hey. So I'm not ignoring... I'm listening everywhere you said I'm accusing interrupting here but iIm trying to get you talk No, no. That's all right. I just when it goes quiet and someone says keep going what was going on anyway? Yeah So that's the sort of stuff I'm working on and I've been working on for quite a long time Well very long time now And that's the fact that you know we can look at The manipulation at the level of politics and finance in The human world if you like the biggest manipulation of all

1:45:47 is the manipulation of our sense of reality. You know, we live our lives as if we're living in a solid world where everything's kind of apart from everything else But that's only one level of this, and it's illusory. The way that we are constructing our reality is exactly the same as the principle of Wi-Fi and a computer. Absolutely! It's almost like we're being grown like lab rats to be interfaced back in 60 seconds finish

1:46:24 Well, yeah. And I did find it kind of interesting that one or two people now are starting to say actually maybe there's a non-human force that's manipulating. Even Tucker! Let's talk about that non human force. Stay there 60 seconds we're on all these radio stations That's why were still on air We'll be right back It was back in the mid 1990s that David said Non human interdimensional creatures are sucking our souls and killing us and making us war with each other Now when you talk about it, it's mainline news. Now Tucker Carlson says he believes in people don't balk so there is a big awakening I want to go some of these X spaces comments or questions quick ones for David Icke here

1:47:05 Amazing discussion last hour about Elon Musk, a lot of thought-provoking things. We appreciate David being here especially with all he's been going through lately his new book is coming out He promises to come back soon we'll do a commercial free podcast and talk about the new book we'll plug it before he leaves as well but you got interrupted by that little break where we joined some stations get into this understanding that we only see a little bit of the light spectrum we're basically blind Yeah, I mean this is the area that really does open up the true scale of human manipulation and puts into perspective the focus only on the politics and the world of the scene. One thing that should be taught to every child as soon as they're old enough to grasp it is

1:48:00 When you look through your eyes in the space you think you're looking at, You're not seeing everything in the space that you appear to be seeing. Your seeing a tiny band of frequency called visible light that is so tiny it's a bloody joke! If you take the projected size of the universe as perceived by mainstream science Then the electromagnetic spectrum which is basically our reality, is around 0.005% of what exists in the universe in terms of energy and all its forms. And visible light which is the only frequency band that we can actually see

1:48:47 Is a smear of the north point no no 5% humans are basically blind and as I've explained in the books in great detail there's a reason for that we designed to be basically blind because then will not see what the hell is going on and what we part off. And so if you look at technology is it coming now I'm the AI and the computerization all this stuff What it's doing, and not by accident either is mimicking the very reality that we're experiencing. The virtual reality that we are experiencing is being mimicked by this technology on what they're doing and this is what this clouds all about Is there laying another layer of illusion on top of their big illusion which is a simulation in- in general

1:49:44 And because we can see a fraction of what there is to see in the space that we're in, all infinity exists in the space that you're sitting now. But we can't see it because it's on a different wavelength and different frequency than the one that we are tuned into and what this body computer – biological computer as well – locks us into And so if you look at the way that a computer decodes Wi-Fi, it's exactly the way that we're decoding this simulation. This simulation is not a construct, it's not physical constructs. It's a field of information just like Wi-Fi and so what happens is a computer although I'm looking around if there's Wi-Fi in this room where is it? We can't see it now because its outside of the wavelength of sight human sight

1:50:39 But if you get a computer and you tune it to the Internet, what comes on the screen is whatever part of the Internet, the Wi-Fi field that you've chosen to go to and see. And what's your seeing? If you said to people tell me about the Internet they'd say well it's pictures on the screen, its moving pictures, its graphics, its text and all that stuff yes it is but the internet in that form only exists on the screen Everywhere else, it's a Wi-Fi field of information and electrical circuits. And so then you think well where is what I'm looking at? That internet that I perceive as the internet, where is it? It's inside the computer! It's not here or there or there...it's inside the computer So then you take to the...this is not pulling out the ether this is mainstream science How do we create reality

1:51:39 What happens is the five senses are locking us in to this cosmic Wi-Fi field, shall we say. The simulation Wi-Fi field and the five senses of the ears are a wonderful example but they all work the same. They're picking up wavefield information, wave information just like sound waves with They then turn it into electrical information which they communicate to the brain. And there's certain areas of the brain that specialize in decoding that electrical information from the various senses and the brain then forms it into the reality that we think is outside of us but he's actually in here just as- the reality of the wifi is in the computer. I'm and so if you break this down

1:52:32 the big picture consequences, the very foundation of human control and the manipulation of human perception is at the very level that we perceive reality itself. We are living a reality that appears to be a certain kind of reality but it isn't. And if you're manipulating people's very sense of reality, the very sense of the world they're existing in which is nothing like what it seems to be as we experience it. Then you go down the levels to the manipulation of politics and these are just symptoms of a big, big manipulation

1:53:26 Which is the manipulation of our reality itself. Let me just say this to finish the point, like I said we now have technology unfolding that is mimicking the very simulated reality that were experiencing and so we have headsets So you, and look at the internet now. There's more and more pictures of these people with headsets on walking down the street even driving bloody cars autonomous cars. And so that you go on the internet and you look at compilations of people with headsets on who are... The moment they put them on their sense of reality is completely taken over

1:54:20 They're jumping around, they're screaming. Yeah that shows they were already pre-programmed and have been prep for this. The point being yeah... I get nauseous! I can't wear them. Well i don't even go there but you they put their headsets on and they might be in an empty room there might be one or two people there whatever And suddenly the information coming through their headset has completely taken over their sense of reality They are possessed What they can do is take the headset off and go, phew! It was just a game. Now imagine if the headset was the biological computer

1:55:03 And the only way you can take that, the headset body computer off is when you die. This is why people who have these near death experiences millions of people now cumulatively describe that when they leave the body- They're totally free. They are experiencing a completely different reality with different levels of physics. Why? What's our physics, what are the laws of physics? They are the codes encoded into the simulation- David you've told us this 100 times and it's all I agree with you and people are waking up your trailblazer well yeah bunch your books i've read most of them get into this what's the best book to understand all this

1:55:48 Well there's the latest ones called The Dream, because that's what this is. It's an induced dream and if you want a real deep massive one like that is one called Everything You Need To Know But Have Never Been Told So we are experiencing a reality imagine you come out of the womb with a headset on your parents have got headsets You go to school, your mates have got headsets on. The teachers have got headsets on you... And you're saying that's what we're already in and now they were breaking out of that? That's what we're already in! If you if you have a headset on from leaving the womb to entering the tomb

1:56:27 Then what do you see how reality is going to work? That's how they trick your soul. That's how they manipulate you towards some greater end, You gotta come back... You're going to believe that reality and that's what we are! We're believing a reality that actually is a simulation for one reason to control our sense of perception and from perception comes behavior. And if you control behavior, you control society. Sure I'm going to nail you down because i want to go to some of these calls for you gotta go some of these x comments have no idea what they're gonna say who they are. I think the crew may know someone there looking them up but just in closing when he's gonna come on commercial free hour on your new book

1:57:07 Well, I'm still writing it. That's the point that's why I said to Daria you know, I couldn't come on in January because I was in a really deep series. So as soon as you're ready, DavidIke.com we want to do it back this spring maybe will be the best time to do that. All right well talk to what? We'll get you on soon while we've still got ya let's pull up X is only done this three or four times and instead of phone calls this is people on X who want to talk to you and so I've got the crew in there connected to this I don't know how it really works but crews doing it who do we go to first chase Let's go to Brian Krasenstein. He joined and asked to speak, go ahead and unmute yourself and say what you gotta say Brian

1:57:48 Hey, yeah no I just jumped in here so i caught the tail end of everything that you're saying but. Actually as crazy as many people think it sounds, I believe we're living in a simulation or at least I think that's more likely than a lot of the other alternatives and the saying goes if you think we're going to be able to actually simulate a universe in the future then the probability is for actually living in a simulation Apple's Apple headset right now and then consider a I being able to render environments that might not have to be actually there in the simulation. And then fast forward 50 years from now do you think it will be possible to simulate a universe and make people believe they're in that universe? I think the answer is probably yes

1:58:38 Well, I think it's absolutely yes. And what I would say is that we're already there because this simulation is doing just that and it's another interesting thing you know if you create a simulation and you want to absolutely control people's perception therefore their behavior then you don't want them interacting with other species of life within that, quote, universe so that there's an exchange of knowledge and exchange of understanding. You want them to believe they're isolated and you want them to live a life as if it's isolated. So you look out at this apparently endless universe, you look out at the night sky and see all those lights and all those planets and what have ya

1:59:29 And there was a guy called Fermi who asked this question. It became known as the Fermi paradox, there's all those lights or those planets or those stars where the hell are the bloody aliens? Well where they are is outside of our visible light reality that's why we can't see them but when you look out into the night sky it's a very kind of lonely view that we're all alone despite all that. Of course it's a loan because it's a projection, It's a simulation and the emptiness and the lack of life that it seems to have is encoded into this simulation. And David you've been saying that for 30 years and now all these mainline scientists as you mentioned are saying they think its a simulation as well I want go back to the journalist who called in for any response back to David

2:00:26 Yeah, and part of Fermi's paradox. One of the suggestions is that their reason why aliens haven't reached out is because when a civilization gets technologically advanced enough instead of going outward into space they go inward basically into this virtual environment so I think there are like so many tidbits of information out there that could suggest that this is a simulation It's far more likely than the various religions of the world or whatever other people believe. What is it what's interesting i think what kind of getting a lot of scientists to come down this road because if its simulation a lot of mysteries of life

2:01:13 and reality start to make sense. For instance, what I said just after the turn of the millennium is that this is a simulation and the limit of the simulation at this level because there are others is the speed of light. And there was an article in Scientific American in April 2021 where this academic had written this article saying he believed we lived in a simulation And he was saying that he felt the limit of a simulation was the speed of light. presenting the speed of light as the processing speed of a simulation. And David, you said that 30 years ago so I'm giving you credit there we need to move on to the next person We got a lot other great people want to talk to David hope he stays with us for rest of the hour but he's doing a lot right now finishing his book His amazing daughter went to the next level So we really appreciate David being here with us today One of my daughters and then I've got three daughters I probably wouldn't have known her for a year But David is tough guy We love David

2:02:15 Who's up next here chase let's go with Adrian Dittman Adrian. Go ahead and unmute yourself and say what you have to say yeah I think it's really interesting that David Ike Say complains of I don't know being connected to the hive mind even though he already is I mean right now speaking to thousands of people simultaneously Which is a selective high of mine be a piece of tech? It's just not integrated into your brain That's the only difference as for Wi-Fi fields. Do you think that the Internet is what a simulated reality pulled over our eyes or just an interface because it's already in a false reality? Sorry, I'll shut up he's saying we're already in a false reality and they're creating a system within a system right David

2:03:02 That's absolutely right. But there is a big difference from what the gentleman just said, that we're in a hive mind and all that stuff as we are speaking but you know there is a difference between having connections with people and communications with people and having the perceptions that we make of what we say and what we make of people's. It's going to show us the input it wants is being given to us by a hive mind, you know? Um, it was kind of funny how sci-fi kinda later mirrors reality. This probably not coincidence either. And I'm in them, uh, Star Trek they had the, uh, the Borg

2:03:53 And the Borg were kind of a part technological race. What they did was infuse people with nanoprobes to make them part of the Borg hive mind, the collective as they called it And those nano probes we now call smart dust, nanobots, nanotechnology all these things. And this is all building this hive mind that I'm talking about and like I say communication is fine and interaction is fine. We should have it of course we should that's why I'm glad the Putin interview happened

2:04:38 But there's a big difference between that and having our perceptions controlled in-. Let me say this, notice how the globalists want to kill individual free communication in the Internet? They wanted to all be through this filter which is another form of the virtual reality paradigm you're talking about but I forget the name of the person commenting but sir do you want to have it come back today? Go ahead. Is he gone? Okay, I'm still here come back to that go ahead Yeah, you're already connected to all of this. You think that everything is different or that we don't have a smart DOS so to speak? We don't need smart DOS when you have a device that is capable all the things that you've mentioned and you are already connected to the hive mind. What what the hell are you communicating on right now who are you communicating with? All the people their perceptions share through medium of speech like there's structurally no difference between having a bunch of nanobots running through your bloodstream accomplishing the same thing when you're holding a device that has connected to this thing that is a field of information that is the internet

2:05:40 There's nothing wrong about it. There's nothing strange about it, It's just the way things are integrating stuff like this into ourselves biologically just removes latency and decreases the latency for information transmission. By the way I think this is Elon Musk Is this Elon Musk? No, no its really not. Its weird don't worry about it Well you could be a dead ringer for him well the Elon clone what else do you want to say? Elon Clone go ahead Yeah they're all theories Okay, it's kind of stupid. Don't worry about it. Well what else would you like to say sir? I just think this is ironic. You want to talk about the simulation everybody started speaking on the topic of simulation however in this false reality ever since The Matrix movie dropped A lot of people are afraid of it but they don't even understand the context

2:06:30 of why the movie even happened and why everyone's so afraid of it. When in reality, everybody got afraid of being integrated with machines and how machines were advancing faster than the things that created them thereby the fear caused to the disaster which then caused the simulation within The Matrix It's crazy right? And even then everybody bases their ideology over a simulation based off of a movie that they themselves haven't even fully understood because if you did you'd realize that there is no real world at all I mean, what do you think this is? And even if it is a simulation, what are you going to do? You're gonna break it. What's the point? You can play and build really cool shit. You can craft and make it better. That's just equivalent of killing yourself. If you're gonna break for everyone else that's called mass murder. That's called genocide

2:07:17 So don't break the simulation. I quite, I don't understand the resistance for understanding the world in which we're in to the extent that we say we could shape it to make it better but we're just trying to understand it and break it. Well whoever this is please do not hang up. We are on radio station so we have got a breaking moment but David you are talking about somebody that AI print is Elon Musk or his twin, his doppelganger what do you want to say to this caller? Well isn't it better that we know about the reality that we're in and how we're creating it, and what is designed to do or not to know. And being complete ignorance of the very reality we are experiencing. What people do with a knowledge of understanding the reality that they are in is up to them completely

2:08:08 But we should surely be pursuing an understanding of what is this place? What are we doing here? Otherwise, you know, we just go through life being pawns of a game. We don't want to ask the X poster that sounds like Elon Musk. A dead ringer. Please stay there if you can, we're on radio station so we have to at least break twice an hour We gotta go a three minute break and come right back I hope the caller stays their sounds just like Elon Musk But i get the point of the Elon Musk sounding person He's saying that when we don't use tools like Native Americans didn't have guns So they lost he is saying why not use it It's kinda what im getting but will come right back And have the person who sounds just like Elon Musk A little bit of angry Elon Musk

2:10:30 And I just want to give Adrian Dittman the floor, got cut off by the break in the David Icke encounter. Adrian, I hope you're still there go ahead. Oh yeah, I'm still here where were we at? You were getting cut off, you were explaining why not engage it, you were explaining your view on AI and computers and the systems versus what I guess people could call kind of a troglodyte view Yeah, we like to view as the system. Humans have this existential paradox built into them We initially want to surpass anything that surpasses us or eliminate it if we can't This is why were afraid of anything thats different say for instance technology I think for instance when you look at AI

2:11:12 We look at what it's capable of and we look at the fact that we are capable of say generating a simulated reality in which we can do almost anything. We start to ask these questions and say, oh my God let's look within real quick and then see how that is being projected out into the world and how much of what we think is not real Israel. So if you think about ourselves and how we navigate through the world We are like a machine that continually projects out into the world, a web of assumptions that then gets adjusted by whatever structure someone else perceives or we perceive. And then we internalize that and think it's reality. So by default whatever version of reality that we think is real is exceedingly limited to our senses. I agree in the sense that you know we don't see much of our reality say what David Ackbar was saying we should see the Wi-Fi field

2:12:02 I think all this is possible. We could actually see or say perceive rather more of the reality that is around us if we were to augment ourselves as opposed to discarding the argumentation If AI for instance gets connected to us, I don't think it's going to be the end of us It's just going to help us evolve a faster and better you can't beat this thing. It's better than us It is much better than us. It is not just better than us all of us put together in one thing, simplified without the biological constraints that every other human brain has. It is actually quite a beautiful technology but it is also risky and I think the risk factor something that should be spoken of but in a realistic sense to the point where we don't stop its development

2:12:47 Please don't go, Adrian. Let's get David Icke's response. David Icke stay there. Can we just get this right? Is this Elon Musk or not? Never mind the name. Was it Elon Musk or what? Absolutely not! Nope absolutely not. 100% someone told me in the break, oh this is definitely Elon Musk. So that's all right now look he's plausible to ability I this isn't well good just like let's just say it's Elon Musk got any questions for him? Okay what I was saying is that people need to understand what is happening and what they're part of

2:13:26 And then maybe they can make some choices about what the how they respond to it but if you're living in a reality which is not the reality you think your experience saying and some other forces manipulating that reality to manipulate your perception of manipulate you. Then that needs exposing and it's alright talking about I'm a this a i dot but AI is designed to take over the human mind and therefore replace it. People like Ray Kurzweil at Google, a so-called futurist has openly talked about this years ago that by 2030 this will be happening and that

2:14:10 Eventually, once the connection is made that AI will do more and more of human thinking until human thinking as we know it is basically negligible. And that's the end of humans as we have- I think what Adrian said because I want to be on a piece of this he said We don't want to have VR goggles and give us the false reality by some company but what about augmentation theoretically that lets us actually see beyond the limitations were in? Well, if you have a chip in your brain and it's feeding you a sense of reality then whatever is feeding you that sense of reality is giving you your sense of reality. But let's say it accesses the part of the brain for infrared. It's not telling what to see. It just allows you to see infrared which your brain can now do? No no I'm talking about where its meant to go

2:15:06 It's meant to go to the end result. And Kurzweil said this, and others have said it too that it's meant to go to the point where you get your perceptions delivered and what are your perceptions? They are your sense of reality. And this is a very dark and dangerous road. I don't care if it's a hard sell or it's a soft sell, It's a dangerous road. It's not what I want to live in. Well, Elon Musk has said beware those that worship AI gods but Adrian you seem to have some opinions on this. You don't know Elon Musk obviously but from researching him what do you think his views are? What he wants

2:15:49 It's clear that he wants to augment us with AI and various other tech to basically enhance our experience of the world, and also make us more capable at maneuvering through the world. That seems to be his thing. But if I go to David Ack's point, it is not that you are afraid or concerned about that our perceptions themselves are going to be delivered by a piece of tech, but that they are delivered to you in an altered format that somehow benefits whatever centralized entity created that tech. Is that correct? I'm talking about having our perceptions delivered by an external force with the intention... Exactly! But how is that a problem if the perceptions that you're being delivered

2:16:39 More than what you already get I mean you have a bunch of sensors that are available to you right now like say for instance your eyes You have your limbs that sense differences in temperature. Yeah, those can Those are already being manipulated right Adrian But how's that a bad thing? On its own it seems very benign. I don't understand where the negative element is, I can only assume that where the negative element is somehow what has been given to you is false or steers you in a particular direction that benefits the centralized entity that is manipulating your perceptions and the data that's delivered to you that isn't therefore your perception right? I think it does come down to where the feed comes from David do you see what he's saying

2:17:23 Exactly that. And well, you know I've augmented reality you can sit back in a dark place anyway from my point of view but then out you know i'm 72 that's my coming up that's my perception but if i'm being delivered um a sense of perception that gets me to stand up and walk out this room now when it when i wouldn't do that if i was sitting here That is not augmented reality. That is a takeover of reality and if you are a force that wants to control people, and what are we talking about Alex? What are we talking about in terms of this global cult and what I say is non-human entities working through it and your World Economic Forum and all these people they're seeking

2:18:12 dictate our sense of reality. This is what people like to call it- I understand, so listen, another question to Adrian and another question David, but let me throw that out at you. Tucker Carlson says he believes interdimensional entities are manipulating reality already through this simulation we all basically know this is. They were all agreeing that's pretty much what we're in. We haven't figured it out yet. I think Adrian saying we can use our own systems they had a breakthrough then and find out what's happening maybe I'm putting words in his mouth But regardless, having a debate about this and open discussion I think is really healthy. But Adrian what do you think about the idea that aliens aren't coming from a distant star system but have actually always been here like I've said, like Carlson said? And that there is manipulation already of the reality

2:18:57 I mean, I haven't seen any actual definitive evidence of aliens. The only proof that we have is say really shoddy footage and potentially even altered stuff that later on of course has been exposed to be as such but it's an interesting theory for sure and one that does bear a considerable amount of logic But still, I haven't seen any really convincing evidence for aliens. You could say you have some infrastructure that's difficult for humans to build so potentially a force was here at some other point or we have destroyed ourselves and then there is the case of Mars and the fact if you look at the atmosphere on Mars and you look at the levels of xenon gas within that atmosphere it is consistent with an environment post-nuclear bombardment environments

2:19:44 There are a lot of questions that need to be asked. We really need to go there and check out what exactly happened there, but regardless of that I mean sure maybe but I haven't seen any definitive evidence for aliens. All right well that's a perfect Elon Musk answer so it is either an amazing advanced AI of Elon Musk or its Elon Musk Adrian Dittman. I like to go by Rogue AGI. Rogue AGI okay okay David, if you had a chance and maybe Elon will listen to this later. And wanted to ask Elon a few questions instead of I get your on your points but if he were talking to Elon Musk which we okay what would you say to him?

2:20:21 Well, if that was Elon Musk this is ridiculous. This is a playground for goodness sake So what I was going to say is that what he's talking about is really low level stuff He's talking about going to Mars Mars in our reality it just another part of the bloody simulation and I'm not saying that aliens are coming from other planets So Columbus coming to America was just a simulation? Well, everything that happens in our reality is people consciousness operating within a simulation not realizing it's a simulation unless they are in the inner core of the cult and then they bloody will. And I'm saying these non-human entities are based in another dimension what's called the astral dimension which is very close to this one and interpenetrates it but he's not other wavelength that our eyes can see. That's why we don't see them

2:21:16 And, you know the point I was making is that does anyone think? Let's just get down to the basis of this. You've spent years, I've spent years decades and all that exposing this global cult and its desire to create a dystopia, a global dystopia based on AI control And we've got people like Klaus Schwab who are openly for years now saying that, yes, that's what has to happen. We have to augment ourselves and have AI and then it will tell us what to do and will know better and will be gods and stuff according to people like Kurzweil. Now does anyone think Elon Musk or whatever he bloody calls himself in his name?

2:22:09 Does he believe that those that are creating this AI system of control, which on one level operates as digital currencies and- No no I get where you're going. So let's go back to Adrian who can't speak for Elon Musk and speak for Adrian. What about what about? I've noticed the globalists say they want to ban any other independent AIs. They're worried about it. They want their own AI. What is your response to that? The running logic would be that everyone else's AIs are developed in such a manner that they pose the potential risk. Keep in mind, these are the same types of people who read a few AI research papers and think that they are now AI researchers even though they just repeat what they have received in verbatim

2:22:54 which ironically makes them more of an AI than the AIs that they're building because that's essentially just training data and you're spitting it back out again with no actual innovation assigned to it because you're not creatively connecting other points of data in a way that they haven't been connected before. So I mean, okay yeah sure I get the logic behind that. I mean I've read a lot about AI safety. I'm not an expert by any means, not even close But I would say this is the logic that I see personally. This is more like a perception and an opinion than an actual definitive take in terms of a fact that I believe is true, There's fear, it is just that fear. If there is malicious intent behind that, that still remains to be seen maybe there is maybe there isn't but if you look at the prime motivator for all of this It is fear What is the first thing any safetyist tells you about? The paperclip scenario Are we familiar with a paperclip scenario? I am a tell people

2:23:47 Yeah, it's very simple that you give an agent a set goal. It says hey It's it's a benign agent is an agent that does not seek to destroy anything But its goal is to turn things into paperclips to manufacture paperclips and so eventually it realizes Oh I could create a whole bunch of more paperclips if I say ...the atoms that are inside of your body in such a way that it becomes in a paperclip and then it begins paperclipping the fucking universe at some point when it reaches critical mass. Right? This is obviously bad because then it kills all of humanity in the pursuit of creating paperclips It's not trying to do this because it hates humanity, it's just doing this because its misaligned Doesn't understand we needed paperclips but we also want to exist ourselves

2:24:27 And so we throw this around and say, oh. So here's the thing we've developed this exceedingly complicated system what most people like to refer to as a black box AI We cannot look at it. We don't understand what it is even if we tried because it's too complex actually perceive and now we have these things running around and we have these centralized entities that are very experienced in building technologies that are running the world currently saying, hey we can develop this faster but we have to do it slower. And then you have people who rebel against the saying, Hey I got the GPUs. I got 200 GPUs in back of my truck right now and I'm going to make an AI faster than you can then they do because they take more risks along the way. Right? This is another little aspect to AI safety where you're putting restrictions on yourself. They say oh shit

2:25:10 We have to be safe about this. And if we're not safe about this, then- So you're saying the AI Wild Wild West- You're saying the AI Wild Wild West or the AI wars are here? Adrian I mean, yeah. Obviously you can run an AI on a small little Apple Watch right now if you wanted to just gut it the computers there. You have a Mac mini? You can run an AI on that. The computer is already here. Training is already a bit of problem. Need more compute for that but you can definitely run it and someone else can build it It's, it's. Adrian we're really glad you called in please don't hang up I'm gonna give David Icke a closing comment because the show only has eight minutes left and i'm going to give Adrian a closing comment and then we're gonna go to the fourth hour of The Guest Host that's here and it's my 50th birthday somebody's demanding me a birthday cake I love them but it's whatever We'll see if that happens but the point is is that David Icke Adrien still there this has been quite the interview it's going to get a lot of attention uh and just closing comments David Icke

2:26:16 What am I exposing, what have we been exposing all these years? It's a agenda to ultimately replace the human mind with artificial intelligence. So, artificial intelligence becomes the human mind. I've been writing about it for decades and step by step by step we move closer and closer to that all the time. That is not an accident. It's the World Economic Forum agenda. It's The Gates Agenda. It's The Global Cult agenda to do that And we can talk about, oh well we could have regulation here or regulation there and augmented reality there. But the bottom line is that what's unfolding

2:27:04 take over of human perception. How is it been done so far it's been done by controlling information so you can- sensor what you don't want people to hear because that will affect their perception in a way that you don't want that to happen. So control of information when people get their perceptions from It might be a personal experience, it might be an item on the news. It might be something I see on Facebook but they're controlling their perceptions are controlled by the information they receive and how they process them. What I'm saying is that this is meant to go to our whole new stage

2:27:55 in which no longer is it necessary to manipulate information, to manipulate perception. Because your perceptions will come direct and you know this is where its going! David we understand... Amazing hour and 45 minutes with you when your book comes out in a few months I look forward speaking to you at davidike.com iconic dot com thank you so much David Icke All right, mate. Thank you very much been great that was powerful the best day on Yeah Our Adrian it's not Elon It's just somebody that sounds just like him and it sounds as smart as him So I'm gonna shut up for Adrian here in the six minutes We have left is just about the whole world the Putin interview war the economy Just we want to hear what Adrian has to say go ahead any room

2:28:49 Can you give me a second? Yes, Adrian. You've got the floor to talk about just in general your view on the world. Just like literally give me a second something's about to explode. Alright somethings about to explode there is David Icke right there No mention of God or base reality no mention of base reality or god The reality we live in is real That's that- You can build all the simulations you want but you have to have a reality in the beginning and then now were gonna discount god completely out of conversation And now we're just gonna talk to and pretend that Elon Musk is not Elon Musk. We're gonna pretend that he doesn't wanna put a chip in, and the Elon Musk is not playing just the tip with the chip. Once he gets that chip in and seen as Adrian's war elsewhere then he starts talking okay? Nobody has ever considered whether or not our minds are going to be taken over or our bodies maybe it's

2:29:48 We're just the flesh pots for the chip because we're cheaper. We'll live off a bowl of rice when we fix ourselves." No, no Matt I hear you but we were having a great talk with Elon Musk and to come back to you...we got all these great people to talk to or not Elon Musk this Adrian fella. Adrian is whatever blew up fixed now can he talk to us? Yeah, well I can't heavily diverting towards star Trek-esque scenarios. I think if you really want to talk about say controlling people's perception and information warfare Probably we are more afraid of this thing than we actually should be now I mean, I want you to consider this for a second Are you guys aware of say technology known as cortical labs? Do you know what that is? Does anybody know what that is?

2:30:31 Very nice little thing. Basically the idea is you take a bunch of silicone and you boost what it is capable of by merging it with human biology, by taking neurons and placing them on the chip. This allows you to do some really cool stuff. You need neurons for various tasks so that would be one of them. It would be absolutely perfect. So I want you to consider something in the future. Imagine we become a space-faring race in which eventually we pursue to leave the solar system because the sun will die in a couple billion years. And potentially even less than that, our planet will be cooked before the inevitability of the Sun's collapse and or explosion. We know it is right? The problem is you have to leave the solar system but how are you going to do that if you look at humans right now them as a biological thing

2:31:21 We're very inefficient. We require a lot of resources I mean just look at it Look at what it would take to go to Mars, you know You have to shield us from everything that's out there You have to look how much how many supplies we have? You have to somehow figure out how to pass the time or put us in suspended animation something we've also not figured out how to do because it's probably impossible remember that There was a project in the past where we were exploring trying to freeze people. That didn't work out because well, it ruptures your cells and kills you. So I tried it and didn't really work." So if you can't solve that, then the obvious next step would be to take what is human and implant that into a machine. At first we're going to have say a machine implanted in us but I think at one point our brain will be implanted into a machine once we reach say a certain age as an individual being right? We'll be discarding a lot of biology and we will probably even

2:32:15 We become less of ourselves as a result because you're not just one life form, you are a cooperative instance of biology made out of bacteria and various other cells that are independently alive. You just cooperate much like a machine is made up of many different parts so are you and these individual parts themselves in fact alive That is the thing that I personally find worrisome, is that we discard so much of ourselves in a pursuit of escaping our own impending doom via the sun. They gave us life at first... So you're saying we can make copies of ourselves and send it all over the universe?

2:32:55 Not necessarily that. What I'm saying is that we can augment ourselves as machinery or augment ourselves into machinery to such an extent that we can prolong our biological existence, as long as possible up until a point where eventually would have to consider making copies of ourselves and but that is so far in the future there's no telling... So you're talking about life extension? Life Extension Technology. a lot of innovation until we reach this point. And we don't know enough about the brain, we don't know enough for the body, we don't know enough about the universe, we don't know where all the information in our head is actually being stored or where it's coming from how we operate and why we have vivid hallucinations when we take certain

2:33:48 substances like DMT or psilocybin. We know so very little about ourselves, but yet we are still pursuing trying to make digital copies of ourselves. So I mean this is the current trend line and i'm not saying that this is the future but if you look at it this way and there's really nothing else to the human body or the human brain then that is where it goes what it then does afterwards is completely up to debate This is uncharted territory It's all theory If you want to go the sci-fi route Wow, well Adrian I imagine you have to go. We've got a whole other hour coming up with the guest hosts is coming in but i would hope that Adrian will be able to join us again here on the show and Adrian I appreciate you calling him here on X Spaces

2:34:29 All right, thank you. Give us a heart. All right folks I'm just this is twilight zone territory right now David Ike and it's obviously Elon Musk he can't make this up we'll be right back okay i got some good news for everybody A lot of products not available at infowarestore.com are available at drjonesnaturals.com Just one word DrJonesnaturals.com We'll put that on screen DrJonesNaturals.com Dozens and dozens of silver products that original super silver toothpaste with the iodine, the nano silver, the tea tree oil. This is the most incredible toothpaste ever! It's exclusively available at drjonesnaturals.com and so many other products you can't get at mfoilwarstore.com or available at drjonesnaturals.com A lot of people we've gotten so many calls and emails wanting this toothpaste he's produced it again it's available again in limited run at drjonesnaturals.com

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2:36:15 And I think Elon is a force for good now overall. And you can't lie, Jesus said he judged the tree by its fruits He's doing just pure gold right now and You know i think David gets scared by that understand he saw this 30 years ago we respect him We're not saying he's wrong about this but there's some stuff going on here And it's above my pay grade, but it's above all of our pay grades. That is the discovery of the universe that's what's wild about it Is figuring it all out? That's what Adrian was saying earlier with us now I don't like birthdays. I'm not against him. I just am I was doing birthdays. I was like 12 go to pizza place The kids come over but

2:36:57 One of my old friends died a few weeks ago towards Butler. And it made me think about how I hadn't hung out with all my old friends like Mike Hanson and Blaha, told you to be here and all these guys so they said we want to bring you a cake they called me yesterday And we want to come on air and give you a cake because I'm 50 on Sunday. Okay, great but i don't want to just have Mike in here for five minutes next segment then Jade Eyre takes over. I want to get Mike in here in a month or so to do a review of all the great work we did when I worked with him for seven eight years starting in 1995 and that was my own little access TV producer for about a year before that In April it'll be 30 years I've been on air So I just was inviting Mike out to dinner he lives outside town

2:37:41 Gonzalez, someone that never comes to see me. But we talk all the time on the phone so he's gonna pop in for a few minutes with all this big news it's like why are we doing my 50th birthday they want to bring a cake I want to do justice great work Mike Stunne and people like George Pullian and Raymond Teague George Butler was in the NSA and the Army. He never told us the secret stuff, but he set up secret communications around Russia, Africa, the US such a smart guy. When he died three weeks ago Mike goes remember George Butler? You remember this guy like yeah Mike I'm remember who George Butler is well he's dead so i don't know as you get older you get more nostalgic So we're gonna go to break come back mike's got a birthday cake for me great

2:38:34 I appreciate that, but it's the real reason why Mike bring me the birthday cake is I wanted to see Mike. So I'm always like hey come to town let's get dinner Well, I'm too busy with this and that and I got this going on I'll take care of that But he's gonna pop in for a few minutes than Jade Irish got serious stuff to cover but we're gonna nail my cancer down And will do like two hours in a month or so With all the clips and kind of review what's going on? It's my first six seven eight years working with Mike It was nine or ten years, it was some of the most important work we ever did. And as people rediscover all that it's bigger than ever So remembering your friends and being around your friends is important I just want Mike to come to town and get a steak dinner with me but he's too busy for that But he will bring me a cake on air so we can do that

2:39:20 It is weird hitting 50. My other birthdays didn't really matter, but it's wild when you're 40 you're halfway through your life when you're 50 it's like wow I was 40 just five minutes ago. I saw a great documentary with Sylvester Stallone on Netflix and watched a lot of TV but I watched it about a month ago and he was like man I feel like I was just born I'm not ready to go but this is the way it works so this is it. He watches his friends and family all die around him the human species goes on and I really think we should preserve the species. And we should promote what is natural and good, and the whole transhumanist movement as directed by The Globalist is doing slave. And I think we need to have another way in that it's pro-human and open and openly discussed cuz I'm all for neural link people who can't walk or blind. That's a great thing if you weren't even scared of that well my uncle was in a motorcycle accident

2:40:14 And like 10 years ago, he got the vagus nerve stimulator almost made him have no seizures. He got an experimental chip like three years ago and he looks great ten years younger never has convulsions anymore because his brain was on the pavement but they'll be at dinner with him and he literally starts talking like a robot when it kicks in people are like yeah it's nice day today. This is an emergency transmission from deep in the heart of Texas US resistance against empowered and funded by Communist China, allied with the big mega banks that set up Communist China in 1949. The communist Chinese have taken control of US telecommunications infrastructure. The communist Chinese have taken control of Hollywood. The communist Chinese have taken control of the main universities. This is all confirmed this is not a drill

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2:43:40 Well, I've known Mike Hanson 29 years and he's in the Bohemian Grove documentaries. He said everything he just said, I'm just going to bring you a cake but now they crashed the show at him an old blah ha. I haven't seen that guy in 10 years so we're gonna get him back in studio soon for a whole retrospective on him for his work but he brought me my 50th birthday cake and we can overhead shot here. Nifty to be 50 look at it, look at what it says I look overhead shot will do it and you've got a love how your big fan of what we did in a whole museum in Gonzales yes and I want you to sign that book here. How's your wife and all your kids? Look at all those look look how young you were thing is I'm always asking Mike to come to town and visit me he'll never do it And now today he's here so we're squeezing it all in right now but yeah

2:44:31 So it's absolutely crazy. You know, Elon Musk just called in and that was pretty crazy Can't make that up There are all your shows right there I am absolutely- Where did you get that photo? I don't even know where that's at Good lord Oh there is old Joyce Riley And Steve Lane My god this is amazing There you are in the army How's Melissa doing She's doing great she has some health problems but she got over them Here we are at Bohemian Grove Buddy, oh there's Melissa right there. Yeah that's her and of course you're really a wolf you're not just a handsome guy I've been married 40 years when i met you i was i was married 10 years already can you believe that? All your kids were babies yeah now that you got grandkids and you weren't married look at us we both got fat

2:45:24 You're a good looking guy too. Remember the Rahamian girl, they were all pinching her asses? Alex, they used to call you the Greek God. Wait till you see the picture coming up. Oh stop about me! Yeah I did not have any problem with women let's just say that anyways it's crazy stuff alright Mike listen I don't talk about me when you come back because she I've been asking for years to come here we're gonna do a whole retrospective on all the crazy stuff we did that's interesting not me We got more photos. I came here for one reason. Waco? Okay, go ahead. To wish you a happy 50th. I know you're making a big deal about this! I think it's-I think it's a big deal. I think you made it to fifty almost and... Fifty on Sunday. Fifty on Sunday. Our thing went out here. I'm gonna blow this out. I did have a Trump impersonator coming in but I got in trouble for that. No we're not doing any of that.

2:46:17 Listen, I just heard about thank you. I just heard about George dying You're like member George. Oh my course. I remember George George Butler It seems like yesterday we should go eat every week at the pancake place it was He's helped us with the show and then he's just he but who's really smart guy? Yeah look like Einstein He really he was one of your biggest fans and I mean from the very beginning Well, I'm a big fan of you. But listen we gotta hang out man! We always talk on the phone like once a week and we never...I haven't seen you in like five years Alex, I have not been in this studio for 11 years. I was here 2013 is the last time I've been here What's crazy? Time just goes by fast. Well what about 30 years it just went by like that

2:47:03 1995 I saw you sitting in an AXS TV. I said that guy's gonna be a star Oh God! I knew it right away when I stopped it Hey this clip is really funny We were practicing going to Bohemian Grove and now we're acting like globalists Back this up, you have the audio at the beginning of the scene This is hilarious This is absolutely hilarious. Let's play this, Mike we gotta do this justice forget my 50th birthday all right? That's the only reason why I came here. It's really important to you but let me tell you something that's really a good uh something that's really happened good. Pause this we're gonna play in a minute go ahead um i have a new website mikehansenarchives.org and i have got all the tapes transferred over from the last 30 years now

2:47:51 and look how fat we both got. Of course it goes up on your website first on band dot video my account I don't care put up where you want well no that's what but you got a channel on there yeah yeah so whenever we get a new one it goes up on there and I love it because I see them they get on Twitter now or actually blows up Man, you're just dumping it on there. Well word hey we're gonna skip the break But go ahead and play this clip from secret rules of the world with John Ronson And this is hilarious here at us or maybe not as we would calmly along There's me guys sitting there and weird Yeah, we're fat cats so let's go ahead but seriously David

2:48:35 As fast as microprocessors are starting to move, it's getting down to a molecular level. The question is at what level will just the actual basics of science stop us from making these systems smaller? And I'm... It's the entire nanotechnology revolution that I find most dynamic. I agree. You like that? Yeah! That's all we did. Mike listen, I've been asking you go dinner for five years That's good. It's a ridiculous documentary it's all over X secret rules the world with that John Ronson remember Your documentaries good too about Bohemia grow I know I know that just from that Remember how you made us sign a contract that he didn't sneak in with us and then like five years later He goes they didn't speak an idea just the guy is a piece of crap man. I tell ya Anyways, well listen in closing

2:49:30 We're gonna end the show, this part of the show with me and the great Jay Dyers who take over. Let's have a piece of cake together Mike okay? Okay And then you send me all the clips and oh yeah your new book or not new book That's not my new book that is over 20 years old But it has a lot of interesting facts about Alex in there This is the best Bohemian Grove book out there It is Bohemian Grove Cult of Conspiracy by Mike Hanson forwarded by The Great Tex Mars remember him Oh yeah he passed away now He was awesome. Is Wanda still alive? Yeah, they took over the ministry. They took over the ministry. All right where do people find Bohemian Grove Cult of Conspiracy? Well you got to go to MikeHansenArchives.org is only... Alright buddy we appreciate you You gotta come see me more. You only live like an hour away And you've gotta call my secretary she'll send it out till your signed Alright so 30 years buddy

2:50:27 30 years. I remember when you were 21 years old! That's only been there about 6-8 months before I met you You were born on the 11th of February 1974 That's right What's your birthday, Mike? July 26th 1963. I was born the year Kennedy got killed and your dad was the famous ambulance driver that said all the folks- That was in 1967 The tower shooting happened he saved a bunch of people there so And you need sometime you need to have on uh The ranger that shot the guy He's a real interesting We've had him on before Yeah but i mean

2:51:15 to reiterate, he said that if it wouldn't have been for all the citizens coming down keeping the guy at bay that they wouldn't have been shooting at him. Yeah yeah all the people in Austin had shotguns and they came over there and started their rifles yeah Absolutely. All right, and you know when they finally- Alex I had to come down and- Hey let's have a piece of cake! Wow what a day the Tucker Carlson interview Elon Musk on the show everything else or somebody that sounds just like him it's gonna be absolutely amazing the war room is in about 43 minutes but right now The Great New World Researcher bestselling author Jay Dyer takes over

2:51:56 All right, thank you Alex for letting me host here. It's always a pleasure I want to talk about the background in history kind of the way that in that interview Putin went into a big 13 minute history talk. I wanna kinda give a meta level big picture of what the issue is with Russia today? What the issue is with The West goals and their strategies post Cold War. I think we're still kinda been a new cold war setting You could say brought up that the West is so concerned with and feels the need to go after? I don't agree, by the way, with everything that Putin said in an interview. I think there were some interesting points that he made. He made a lot of great points. There was a few areas where again where I disagree but it's really important to know the history of this. And I want to try to boil it down both from a religious perspective energy or political perspective. So, first off, let me just say that

2:52:50 Alex talking about the mystery religions and he was playing some older discussions that people have had about the ancient mystery religions. And I want to talk about how that plays into this as well because secret societies, bloodlines all of that believe it or not does play a role in the reason why Orthodox Christianity is a key enemy of the New World Order. Why Russia was targeted according to Dr. Carol Quigley 100 plus years ago via the Western banking elite, as well as the subversion that's done through various secret societies. In fact, I have with me here Albert Pikes' Morals and Dogmas. I've read a good bit of this book it's a gigantic massive text. I've also got other irrelevant geopolitical texts that i highly recommend everybody should be aware of like F. Wayne Mingdahl's book Full Spectrum Dominance but if we want to talk about the religious side of this if we go back to the ancient

2:53:49 Most of the ancient empires, even as we read in the books of Daniel or Ezekiel or Jeremiah, Isaiah. They talk about an attempt to rebuild the Tower of Babel and the Tower of Babel course was early on in Genesis's attempt of mankind to construct a single world empire and a single world religion based around some key warrior figure, some key single anti-Christ deity the Antichrist deity that I'm talking about would be a kind of person or a kind of leader that would stand against the idea of God in heaven. I don't think they were building the Tower Babel because they literally thought they could go into heaven, it was symbolic defiance of heaven in my view. So every empire and world has had this motivation to want to construct this babble again. Why is that? Why can't world empires just kinda be who they are an do their thing

2:54:46 Well, partly because of human greed and the desire to rule. What's the line of Arnold Schwarzenegger? To hear the lamentation of the women, right that's the desire fallen mankind yes but there is also a spirit that impels mankind to engage in these kinds of activities I think that's the devil it's a fallen spiritual entity So the motivation that the devil has is ultimately to gather mankind into a gigantic global anti-Christ religion and rebellion, one world religion. The religion that probably would be used would be some kind of blending of all the world religions we have this idea for example even in the ancient empires That the religion is really a function of the state as long as you worship the emperor

2:55:38 You can believe or do whatever you want, religiously speaking just so long as you acknowledge the emperor and his state power. Or his role has the image of the God figure that said most ancient world imperial religions were controlled they were essentially tools of the state functions have soft power maybe even more than soft power maybe even the guiding ideology of the empire as a whole So they had networks of high priests, networks of secret societies. Plato talks about this for example in his book The Timaeus where he talks about Socrates going and learning from Solon who went and learned from the ancient Egyptian priests all of the Egyptian mysteries

2:56:22 those mysteries are what's contained in the Timaeus, which is a cosmology or cosmogeny of the origin of the universe. The way the universe is structured as that kind of outpouring of the divine being itself and it's described as a snake eating its own tail. That's the Ouroboros that we've all heard of that comes from Platonism and ultimately apparently if the Timaeus is true from ancient Egypt And so the idea of the state then is to utilize these secret societies and networks, and co-opted concealed occulted knowledge. It just means hidden doesn't have to mean something demonic per se although in many cases it does end up being that just means hidden just means secret. So all the states in these imperial structures had secret religions which they control Plato describes this

2:57:13 in the Republic as the myth of, excuse me not the myth of or the ring of Gaius. The ring is this sort of symbolic thing for inner hidden power. He says that there's a noble lie that the state has to erect by which it rules the population through this noble line because most people can't handle what's actually the case they need to be given these religious lies to order their lives and to control them And versions of that same religious deception, manipulation were used throughout again Babylon, Persia the Greeks and then finally the Romans as you have this structure listed in the biblical prophets. But we're told for example in Daniel 2 and in Daniel 9 that in the days of this final empire, the Roman Empire a child would be born Messiah would come who would break

2:58:03 the reigns would break the control of the previous world religion systems and establish a new kingdom. And Daniel even says that, The time of the Messiah would bring about a Kingdom which would eventually envelope the empire under which he was born." In Christianity, of course we believe that's Jesus. We think that's the expansion of the Christian church throughout the first four centuries to eventually encompass and supplant the Roman Empire which then becomes the Roman Byzantine Empire So Christianity, from its earliest days, from its New Testament teachings in continuity with the teachings of the Old Testament – the fulfilled prophecies. The hundreds of them actually if you go through the whole Old Testament that find their summation and the person of Jesus Christ, Messiah

2:58:50 That church that he sets up expands throughout again the Roman Empire, eventually encompassing it fulfilling what we read about in the book of Daniel and other prophecies throughout the book of Isaiah. That Gentiles when the Messiah comes will begin to call upon the God of Israel. That's exactly what we see in the first thousand two thousand years of Christianity as the Gentile nation is converting and coming into this one holy Catholic apostolic Orthodox Church in my view Now there's schisms and splits in this church later on in history, but the reason this is relevant for what we're talking about today is that there's a dual system you could say going on here. There's a system of the secret society philosophies and beliefs

2:59:31 their Gnosticism, their alchemy. All these different sects you could go back to the Middle Ages with the Bogomils, the Waldensians, the Cathari in France. They had these Gnostic secret teachings in various ways formations manifestations but most of time it was some kind of dualism some kind of philosophy of a inner secret Gnostic elite and everyone else was profane and didn't understand the deep mysteries for example if you were part of the normal Catholic Church throughout those centuries, the Gnostics, the Catharite, the Bogomels etc. They thought you were basically worthless. You didn't have a higher intellectual enlightened supernosis or whatever they possessed

3:00:15 Now, most of those groups historically speaking have died and gone away. But they did transmit various ideas that continued on even into Byzantium which is the Eastern Roman Empire that continued on after Rome in the West fell around 400-410. So the Eastern Byzantine Empire in Constantinople continued on all the way into the 1400s and that becomes the longest history of humanity it's known as the Christian Byzantine Empire. Wasn't perfect not saying that it did everything right, but it fell eventually to Islam after it had agreed to a union with the papacy so once byzantium became uniate once they compromise for geopolitical reasons The certain subversives within the Byzantine empire opened up the gates to the Muslims and Byzantium fell.

3:01:10 After that point, there was no public consistent Christian empire left. But what took up the reins of that was the idea of the third Rome which was the Russian Empire and the Russian Empire in its history was full of a lot of squabbles, a lot of controversies, a lot of battles, a lot of difficult, a lot of rulers that were not ideal either. In fact under both Catherine and Peter were some positives that put mention in his interview. Both of them actually introduced a lot of revolutionary philosophy from the west. A free most sonic lodges were invited into Russia at that time and those three Masonic lodges are actually the breeding grounds in Russia in this case by which they could eventually bring about impart not only way to happen but imparts the eventual Russian revolution because certain members- of- the Bolsheviks. Are

3:02:07 involved in Freemasonic lodges, which was a way for them to network and connect. At the same time as a lot of that was happening in Russia, the British Empire had its global network of freemasonic lodges that functioned as it's intelligence operation. I'm not saying that everybody in the Masonic Lodges was a spy. I'm not saying that everybody who was a spy is a Freemason, but throughout the British Empire this vast network of lodges throughout the world which is even mentioned in countless movies go watch my okay. Okay and Emmanuel B King and Sean Connery. Sean Connery plays a reincarnated Alexander The Great who with his con man buddy Michael Caine uses free Masonic mythology to dupe

3:02:53 a very third world tribe, we could say into believing that he's a Messiah. And the whole movie is basically about Freemasonry and religious mythology being a con and deception. That's just one example that I'm giving but you can see from the movie that they kind of functioned as you could say spies free Masonic spies so to speak Now I'm not spending this whole talk on Freemasonry, just want to give a few examples of how it relates to where we're getting with the confrontation between East and West. And it's not ultimately about Freemasonry does play a role though in this history when we come back will get into more that and explain the Putin Tucker interview This is Alex Jones show me guest host Jay Dyer Jason analysis.

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3:04:32 Welcome back to the fourth hour of The Alex Jones Show. I'm your guest host, Jay Dyer of Jays Analysis. We're talking about the big meta level history breakdown similar to what Putin did in the interview with Tucker giving the meta perspective, big God's eye perspective as best we can and we're talking about this hermetic lineage as contrasted to the Christian teaching, the theology of the church as it went through these centuries and how this is a big part what's going on in the confrontation between East and West, and the Ukraine war. And a lot of people don't know that

3:05:10 the Masonic lodges, for example that first popped up the Grand Lodge. I mean there were Masonic lodges prior to the Grand Lodge of England but the lodges throughout the British Empire even in mainline history functioned as Jessica Harlan Jacobs as a historian she's not a conspiracy theorist this is just mainline history she talks about how these were essentially the intelligence networks of the British Empire Part and parcel with intelligence networks comes the cultists, the secrets that are trafficked including religious ideas, religious secrets, gnosis and so forth. And I mentioned Byzantium in terms of more Cambridge academic scholarship there's a recent book that came out it's very technical very difficult book called Radical Platonism in Byzantium by Niketas Sinisioglou

3:06:02 The reason this book is relevant is because the whole thesis of the book, even though the Byzantine Empire had within it a struggle between Neo-Platonism and Christianity, Orthodox Christianity. And it tried to suppress the neo-platonic atheistic Neo-Platonism, Atheist Platonism This lineage, this ideological tradition survived through the character of Plethon. Plethon was a Byzantine scholar and academic and an atheistic Platonist. His atheistic Platonism according to Sinisioglou is what was handed over to the Spinoza circles. And then by extension eventually as it found its way into the Jacobin Illuminists circles

3:06:46 So this is yet another historical attestation to the fact that the secret society mysteries, the myths, the symbols, the codes. The hidden keys and all of this it's really just a mechanism by which people are duped and people can be controlled but more cunning people in typically the state especially throughout this period. And I think that stays the norm all the way up until today. I mean, although today is more of a corporate state it's not really the empire or some king that's controlling us and duping us it's more so CEOs in Bilderberg and Davos these are the people who are the new kings of our day but they're utilizing a lot of these same tricks tactics and techniques And in regard to the mysteries in The Secret Society techniques that are used These become ways by which

3:07:39 Intelligence agents can provoke a tour and that's essentially what we see the Masonic lodges in Russia. And throughout Europe doing during these revolutionary periods and we talked a lot about the famous history text. The Fire in the Minds of Men, which talks about how the Lodges took this hermetic ideology and heritage of revolution, pure flux and chaos. And even atheistic Platonism to its full conclusions by initiating the Bolshevik Revolution And again, this is not conspiracy theory. This is well documented now in a lot of academic philosophical texts. Hegel and the Hermetic tradition, Hegelianism which is central to the history of

3:08:26 You couldn't have Marxism without Hegel, because Marx turns Hegel on his head and uses that dialectical chaos philosophy to produce the synthesis. And that's ultimately the philosophy of the revolutionaries, the Trotskyis, the Lenins these characters is that constant perpetual chaos is what produces this synthesis where they wanna take things. And again this even comes up in books like Albert Pike's Morals and Dogma there's a whole chapter on what he says true Christianity is. And it's the Prince of Mercy or the Scottish Trinitarian where he explains that for the Freemason at that level, God is an eternal world emanator. He's just repeating in the Neoplatonic philosophy of Plethon and their Hermeticists

3:09:12 And this is exactly, by the way what the British Empire adopted as its hermetic philosophy. There's books that have come out recently, scholarly books like Jason Lueb's book John D and the Empire of Angels in Nokia Magic and The Occult Roots in a Modern World Now what does all this have to do with Russia and geopolitics? Well it has to do with the fact that Russia up into the 20th century, still maintain a degree of the notion of a Christian society. An Orthodox Christian imperium it had been waning for sure and there have been a lot of corrupt leaders and a lot of things going on that were bad people like Peter The Great I think he was not that great of a leader i think he was corrupt but

3:09:54 And regardless, there is this desire to establish the revolutionary faith throughout the world. the revolutionary faith. The revolutionary faith is the same faith that's mentioned by Aldous Huxley in his book Brave New World, the final revolution is a revolution against man so anything that stands in the way has to be gotten rid of Quigley explains this and the first few hundred pages where he says That the two chief enemies of the Western Anglo American pragmatic empire doesn't have anything to do with

3:10:31 It's not talking about the people, it's talking about the geopolitical structure of the Atlantis to this power block. And that's not about Atlantis okay? We're not talking about sunken islands we're talking about this area geopolitically, the West versus East and that's why Brzezinski people like Kissinger have talked about how in order to control the world you control the Eurasian heartland. That is the Alfred Mackinder thesis, right? The geopolitical pivot of history is controlling the Eurasian heartland. That's the old British imperial structure and model. So what does that mean? That means areas like Ukraine, areas like the borders of Russia are crucial to control for having global hegemony.

3:11:25 And the philosophies and the worldviews play a key role in this. It's called Weltanschauungskrieg, world view warfare. Will we have a world view based on Western empiricist pragmatic ideas or what Putin talked about when he was talking to Tucker eternal ideas? He brought up Dostoevsky. He brought up the idea of eternal truths In fact, Putin's one of his influences is Ivan Ilyin. He's a Russian thinker and philosopher who is not very well known in the West but if you read some of his essays that are translated by one of my friends Mark Hackard over at Espionage History Archive or Soul of the East. I don't know if Soul of the East still exists but Mark has translated a lot of his essays and works and Ivan Ilyin is a very Dostoevsky influenced thinker

3:12:18 He's also written about on how there's a lot of platonic influences in Dostoyevsky, right? And so I know I was critiquing atheistic Platonism earlier. There's different versions of this. So I'm not trying to equate these things but Putin was definitely expressing the idea that versus the Western idea of everything being in flux which is essentially the revolutionary philosophy going back to the pre-Socratics which has restated by people like Lenin and Trotsky You have the idea that he outlines, which is that there are objective eternal truths. There's natures people have natures you can't turn people's natures into some other nature You can't turn a woman into a man a man into a woman

3:13:00 There are families and families are like many nations, right? And so there's a connection between the family as a people group and the nation as a larger extension of that people group. And that's just the way all human beings have thought for thousands of years with the revolutionary philosophy at its very core or they were talking about which was it's not identical to all of the lodges and I think everybody is afraid me somebody saying that the philosophy in the revolutionary lodges was used to bring about the revolutions to where we And the last two remaining empires Quigley talks about, the Austro-Hungarian Empire and the Russian Empire. He says those two things need to go away for hope of The Tragedy and Hope to come about. What's the hope of the book Tragedy and Hope? Western democratic capitalism

3:13:46 Now you might think, well then what's wrong with that? That sounds like a good thing. No it's not what you think it means technocratic corporate control when you read Tragedy and Hope the middle chapter is one of the most important chapters because as the chapter where he says that The world I'm talking about will be an AI run technocratic smart city fake nightmare dystopia He thinks this is a good thing This is the Oxygen Show, don't go anywhere. I'm your guest host Jay Dyer of Jay's Analysis. Welcome back to the Oxygen Show, I am your guest host Jay Dyer of Jay's Analysis. We're breaking down the real spiritual battle that has manifested East and West. That's one of the areas that I disagree with Putin in the discussion that he had with Tucker but we can actually see this playing out ideologically when I talked about worldview warfare quickly says that the two main enemies to the Atlantis Empire of

3:14:38 the Austro-Hungarian Empire and the Russian Empire. The first two world wars of the last century, Quigley says had the effect of successfully dissipating and exhausting the Soviet Union's destroying that potential threat out of Europe. Then he says that the next threat would be Russia and the Russian Empire, and the exportation of Bolshevism, communism, Sovietism also I think in the long run had the effect of destabilizing basically wearing down and destroying Russia from within. In the 1990s, you had the Harvard crew Larry Summers and other people from that university concocting and figuring out basically how to loot Russia throughout the 1990s this was the role in part that Yeltsin played as an asset of the CIA to help loot and bring down Russia

3:15:30 Because remember Brzezinski said that Russia has to be kept down as well as other countries, to ensure American dominance. That's before however they wanted I think just shift over into decline intentional decline. I think the global elite even in the West have made the decision that it's time now to bring America down and make globalist institutions have the power that America has had in terms of its dominance. And so, that also occupied a lot of that conversation was multipolarity and the place of Russia and China in the coming world. And Putin talking about the inability of the fiat money system to actually work, the dollar dying I think that's what he was referring too.

3:16:16 But he also talked about a lot of operations that we over here at InfoWars, myself. Many of us have talked about in the last 10-15 years talking about how the West, the CIA these operations they were running what they were doing in the Maidan coup to spark that off The false flag events, the Nord Stream pipeline all of that done basically by the intelligence operations concocted in the west Whether or not we know exactly which outfit did the operation itself is really not the issue, but because we know who stands to gain. He Bono right and Putin also brought that up so basically every one of the pieces of data that came forward in that interview is identical to all the analysis and

3:17:03 the last 10 years about East versus West relations. In fact, I did a whole three hour lecture on my YouTube channel about eight months ago where I said all of this broke it all down. I talked about all the provocations that the CIA engaged in State Department pussy riot splitting the Orthodox Church in Ukraine. All of that was basically brought forward and this amazing interview with Alex. And he's one of the most important people And that specific splitting of the church is exactly what I want to highlight now, because this is a key element that a lot of people don't understand in the West. In the West we don't really have religion as a cohesive idea anymore, in terms of an actual expression there's a loose idea that were either Protestant or Catholic in the west

3:17:51 But there's no real civic function of the religion. The religion doesn't spill over any longer into the civic sphere because we bought into the idea of a secular society, and the religion is something that's private and it doesn't really relate to anything else And that's precisely why we will eventually collapse and die. Now, I think Islam is a terrible religion. I've debated all the top Muslims except for one out there that are known that are famous that are public. I go against it all the time but it has the focus in the impetus perhaps even in America in the near future. Because human beings cannot subsist and will not last very long, and a completely secular atheist society they will bend to whatever is the dominant masculine force. And Islam although I think it's a horrible false religion has that impetus still within it so it will take over Europe and that's by design. The Fabian socialist talked about in the 1910s 20s and 30s bringing in people who were not religious or

3:18:52 first to London and then to the UK, and then into Europe because they thought it could be a force for socialism. They were too full of hubris I think to realize that no you're not going to control this religion this religion will take over You might get a few generations of degenerate children of Muslims but eventually Islam will take over Europe And that's by design And it's not because the global leader Muslims are not Muslims. They don't, they did a chess piece right? It's an ideological chess piece so chess pieces are not just nation states. Not just this nation Ukraine and let's use them against its ideology and religion as well. And that came up in the debate or assuming in the interview with Putin as well between Tucker and Putin but I'm saying all this because you understand that from the vantage point of the Western evil geopolitical elite

3:19:44 Russia has to be destroyed and taken down because even though that was a big part of the Cold War, containing it bringing it down looting it. The Russian people in the Russian soul that Putin talked about are very tough they're very resilient And they're very hard to bring down. That's why so many of these Western neoliberal toxic culture operations have to be exported, as well as potentially all the bioweapons labs. By the way that was actually reported on years ago. Dilyana Galatseva I think is her name. She I was at a lecture event with her she gave a presentation in 2017 or so on the Pentagon bio labs all over Ukraine and

3:20:32 So this has been known for a long time. And the provocations then were intentional, putting the bio webs there. The seven years of warfare via NATO against Russia that has sparked this conflict. The 2014 coup operation again done by the West all the color revolutions that were funded by Soros entities CIA stuff that was all in the interview. Soros but when he's talking about the CIA operations. To do these things in Ukraine orange revolution that was all sorrows and see I back in. In the nineties Victoria Newland putting all this money there best soros NCI all that's all the same crew.

3:21:17 All of what the CIA did in the Cold War is now done by the National Endowment for Democracy, Soros and found all those things are the new ways that the CIA does these things. They don't just do it the way they used to do it in the Cold War. Those are the new cutouts and fronts that are used. And has nothing to do with democracy or human rights. Those are weapons of culture war soft power you say? And even cutouts for black cops at times. Syria back in 2012, 1314 against Assad. Same operations and strategy against Putin same operations of sniper attacks to try to set off crowd riots to try to have a coup tried over and all that was mentioned now not Assad but coups against Russia coups against Putin that was all brought up in the interview so again everything we talked about was brought up And again this key spiritual component is there.

3:22:14 to split the church in Ukraine by creating a fake CIA State Department Church run by people who aren't even real clerics, people were defrocked from other churches. what's going on in the Ukraine. And it's fostered and funded by Western NGOs, Western universities, Jesuit universities. They all play a key role in that because the Jesuits, the CIA they basically joined at the hip of the time Vatican II there is gigantic 800 page book Time Life magazine Henry Luce and American proposition where the CIA created the doctrinal warfare program CD Jackson that to utilize these churches during the Cold War for their own purposes

3:22:56 for the purpose of pushing Americanism and Americans off power. But what that does is now places you under a new master, and that's why Francis in all these churches, Pope Francis Catholic Church, that's why they walk in lockstep now with Davos, Klaus, and the World Economic Forum because they're all part of the same powers. That's the Atlantis' power structure. It's all these entities, and they are concerned with Russia as a potential rising threat, as well as perhaps China as well. And that doesn't make those people angels and good guys it just is the reality of geopolitics but there is this spiritual component there which is the battle of evil versus good so although people in the state people who

3:23:44 leaders, presidents kings whatever. They may view all of this as pure pragmatic politics like if you read the book Dune right? A lot of the people in dune they view it as just pragmatic politics but there's actual prophecies right about The true leader and the savior and all that the Messiah and likewise in terms of Christianity we have a messiah and we have a providential spiritual meaning of history providential spiritual meaning of history involves the church as a key player. And, of course we know that Satan has the desire to destroy the church. That's what I key element I want to highlight so if you're watching this and remember head over head over to my ex and- you'll see at the top there I'm doing a new live event with our good buddy comedian Jamie Kennedy from the movie scream will be live March fifteenth in Los Angeles to do another event five hours of lectures and comedy impressions stand up interviews

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3:25:18 And he told my dad a little bit about when he died, we got all his documents and all his medals and all this stuff. Man the letters about... We see the flag! We're going into it those are the targets! We're gonna hit it! Billy best buddy just died, his plane just blew up. There is something about that like we're going in, we're not running away from the attacks, we're flying into the attack because we got something to deliver and God said, deliver it. And I'm going to deliver more payloads. The reason I volunteered for more missions is we have slayed the enemy! We have destroyed them! We have wrecked them! God has given me nothing but victory!"

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3:27:30 I'll use the analogy. It's like we go to Las Vegas last 29 years on air and we put a quarter in the slot machine, We win $1,000. We go play blackjack and we spend $1000, we make 100 thousand. We go to the roulette wheel, we make 1 million. We never even lose! I get tortured, I get attacked, I get lied about, I get physically attacked people come to my house...I don't even get into that what that's like for my family but as long as I don't care and as long as I got courage and trust in God like Job did For every attack, for every little slap I get is a dagger in the enemy. For every time they thump me in the face there's a fist right in their nose. Every time they break my leg, they get destroyed one of their whole cities gets vaporized using that as an analogy we are devastating them this operation is a devastator! The enemy fears it They hate it They hate the spirit out of it They know its real It's everything they hate

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