David Icke Talks GOD and demons in Next Level FULL INTERVIEW!

00:00 What is God? What a Christian will call God, I call the infinite. It's a force that pervades the entirety of existence and you can connect with it and be inspired by it or you can be separated from it and thus be demonically manipulated. And this, what I called earlier the truth vibrations, this vibrational change that's going on that's breaking up this simulated mind prison, it's what a Christian would call God, what I would call the infinite, it's actually making it happen.

00:41 And this is what this demonic realm, this demonic force, is retreating from as it imposes itself more and more on this simulated nonsense. And that's why it's coming in, the demonic realm is coming more and more into this reality in its retreat, and that's why we're seeing all these bizarre things going on and this chaos. But you know, instead of saying, do you believe in the Christian God or do you believe in the Islamic God or whatever, it's a force of love. It's a force of wisdom. It's a force that holds the entirety of infinite reality together. And whatever we call it, that's what it is. And instead of being divided and ruled by our perceptions of it, let's just

01:30 be brought together by understanding that it may be different things to different people but it's actually the same force we're talking about and it is in the process of bringing an end to this nonsense but we're gonna have chaos and upheaval because if you corner a rat it's not going to go quietly and that's what we're experiencing. We're experiencing The demonic realm and its cult expression in our reality are being cornered and it's thrashing out and it's desperately doing everything it can to hold on to its power. Well, if anybody in the world has been completely vindicated in his work the last 35 years, it's David Icke.

02:34 And of course myself and a few others are close seconds. And I wish we hadn't been vindicated. I wish that our understanding of the world had been wrong. But now it's all out in the open. Planetary world government that wants to depopulate us, cashless societies, takeovers of our bodies with nanotech and electromagnetic radiation, open Satanism. I was just in Omaha to see my wife's father was in the hospital, he had a gay pride parade come by the hotel. They were wearing Satan shirts, I got photos of it, showed you, saying, you know, we're gonna get your children. I mean, this is just so crazy. The Ukrainian dictator says that the Russians are gonna blow up a nuclear power plant this week.

03:20 It just goes on and on and on. We have the new king coronated with his calls for world government and depopulation. Then we've got this viral videos of the woman on a Dallas plane out of Dallas last night, yesterday, who reportedly saw a man in a green hoodie turn into some type of reptile. And I wouldn't normally go with this. She doesn't look schizophrenic, doesn't sound nuts, sounds generally freaked out. But some of the other people on board said they saw things. The reason I'm going to raise this is David Ike talked about this 30 plus years ago and I never made fun of him about it because a lot of what he said was credible. I couldn't prove it but I talked about this a few months ago so he can cover this now or later in the next two hours. He can cover any of the issues I'm throwing or anything he wants to get to first but I have met with a lot of really prominent people, household names recently, really in the last year

04:15 And they all keep telling me about the same experiences. And I didn't talk about it until five prominent people had basically told me the same stories in the last year. And so I started telling you about this and I only had one event happen like this to me when I was a teenager, I was not on drugs. And I'd been taken to jail for fighting, and some of the police officers took me in the back room, and just for two seconds, one of their faces, he said, you think you're a tough kid? And literally his face changed right in front of me. And on my children, it happened, I saw it. So something's going on. What is this? And why is it getting more prevalent? Because if I told you the names, these are very serious people. Most of them weren't even religious.

05:00 And when they saw this, they got religion very, very quickly. And then why is it happening to prominent people? What's going on? So it seems like the veil between other dimensions and things is fading or something's happening. So many things to talk about. But remember, when we go into this esoteric or occult or unknown area, that just means stuff that's not been discovered yet. They're always finding new species every day. They're always discovering new energy sources, new elements. We've only discovered a few square feet of the territory around us compared to an entire universe. So David, that's my intro here. You can start with these phenomenon or you can end with a phenomenon. You can go wherever you'd like, but thank you because we were trying to set you up for weeks. Perfect timing you came on today with the hysteria off of what this woman and others saw on this plane.

05:52 Yeah, well I'd like to start deep in the rabbit hole, Alex, if you don't mind. I've just finished a book that's coming out on September the 1st called The Dream, which goes deeper in the rabbit hole than I've ever been, and there's information in that book that simply has never been written or revealed before. and it puts into context what is actually happening. You know, I've been saying all these decades that we cannot understand what is happening in the world of the seen unless we understand what's happening in the world of the unseen. So very quickly, you know, for people who haven't come across this, and you should ask why haven't they come across this? Why isn't this taught in the schools as a matter of course?

06:43 But what we see is only a tiny band of frequency, so small it's ridiculous. Everything beyond that frequency band, the limits of what the five senses can decode and the eye senses can decode into a visual reality, is infinity. And if you think of radio stations in the old analog system and television stations, they shared the same space, they share the same space, But they don't interfere with each other, impact upon each other, unless they're really close on the dial. So if you want to look for outside of this reality dimension, whatever you want to call it, for that level that can interfere with this,

07:32 then you've got to look at bands of dimensional frequency that are very close to this one, but just outside of our five-sense reality and our ability to perceive it in the natural course of events. And I'll call this dimension that's close to this one the astral or the fourth dimension. Call this 3D, the third dimension. And in the lower levels of this astral dimension, in other words, the lower frequency levels which are really close to this one, that's the realm of the demonic. That's where demons and their name and description in all different religions and cultures, that's where they exist.

08:19 These are the entities that the Satanists are interacting with in their rituals. Why do these Satanists, who may be sick, but a lot of them are not stupid, why are they doing these rituals? Because they're interacting with these entities. And when you do rituals as they do in the same places over and over and over again, What it does is it thins out the frequency difference between the astral, lower astral where these demons are, and this reality. And so that interaction is made possible. Now what's happening now?

09:05 is that that lower astral dimension is starting to fuse into ours. And these demonic entities are much more able to move into our reality and stay for longer. And one of the conduits, hello, that is allowing this to happen, that is the connection frequency that allows this to happen more now than ever before is what we call 5G, with 6G and 7G to come. This 5G, there's so many elements to it, and one of them is that it is acting as a frequency conduit for these demonic entities to come into this realm. So people

09:53 will start to see them. And what they do is they, quote, possess bodies, and there's also hybrids which are part demonic and part human. And as this goes on, people are seeing more and more of this demonic level, and thus they're saying, oh my God, he turned into a reptile. He turned into this, he turned into the other. And we're going to see more and more and more of this. And it's to understand in the end that you can talk about Klaus Schwab and the World Economic Forum, and we should. And your gates and your vouchers and all these people and your sorrows is quite right. But they are gophers. They are vehicles for this demonic realm. That's why they have no empathy. That's why they have no what we would call soul. That's why they do what they do. You're saying they're biological robots.

10:52 Well, this is an area of my book, The Dream, and indeed The Trap, the one that's out at the moment, which I emphasize to quite a large extent. This is how I see it, Alex, okay, after 35 years of researching this. The body is a biological computer. I've been saying that for decades. And it's a program. It's a software program. So if you do not introduce consciousness beyond the program, then that AI software program, which is what the biological is, and I should make this emphasis, people look at biological

11:42 and they think that's natural. To this demonic realm, the biological is a form of the technological. It's just that because we see technology with steel and machines and circuits, we think that's technology. And we think what is apparently natural is natural, biologically natural. But actually to them, it's a form of technology, it's a form of software. So when you're getting these... And notice the electrochemical is interfacing with the silicon, they actually work together very similarly.

12:20 Well, you will have seen the documents from Moderna, for instance, where they describe when they're talking about this fake vaccine, they're talking about it being an operating system. See, as humans talk about, well, this is natural. Well, how do we know it's natural? What have we got to compare it with? Nothing. You know, if you have a headset on, in a virtual reality game, then you can thrash about because your mind thinks it's real, but you can take the headset off and you go, whoa, it was just a game. But if the body-brain system is the equivalent of the headset for humans,

13:09 And you can't take it off. And therefore everything that you look at which you think is natural, well how do we know? And you've been saying this for 35 years and now Avatar and everything else has picked up what you say and then now the new Avatars are killing whales for their adrenochrome. Same thing over and over again. And so my listeners know this, they understand it. Can't wait to read the new book, go next level with that. But I promise listeners and my wife and others want to ask you questions to just go through the waterfront of what we're currently seeing. I understand getting the big picture is important. I want to spend the rest of this segment, another 10 minutes on this topic. But I

13:46 I should probably talk to you off the air at some point because this is really in confidence, but very prominent household names. And it's happening to a lot of regular people too, but it tends to be really happening to prominent people who didn't believe in God, but weren't occultists, weren't Satanists, where they are seeing what this woman saw, but being attacked by it in their rooms at night, driving along in their car alone, the literal, like the original Twilight Zone with the gremlin on the wing of the plane. I mean, stuff like this is happening to household names and they're calling me saying, oh my God, I guess God's real or this is something that we... So, is it, I think what you're saying is the 5G and all of this is breaking down the dimensions and it's like a conduit to have this electricity jump into ours? Yeah, it's acting as a bridge, a frequency bridge, absolutely designed to do that.

14:40 And I think there's someone who's firing that at the Earth, isn't there, from low-orbit satellites? What's his name? Elon Musk. Elon Musk, that's it. Yeah, so I have a few questions about him you would understand, given that. Spend all the time you want on Musk, but so quantifying it, you're getting the same intel that this is intensifying. Yeah, if I could just take this further with the body program, the software program. It's a behavior program, it's a perception program. So if you come out of the womb

15:16 without consciousness, the eternal part of us, intervening, then that program will run your life. It will decide what you think, and from what you think it will decide what you behave, how you behave. So it's like a computer. It's like a computer without an operator. It's like a computer, if you like, going rogue with a virus. So you're tapping the keys and whacking the mouse but it's not responding. But consciousness, this is why they want to suppress consciousness, the true self, the eternal self,

15:53 which is a field of energy awareness that can intervene in the program. And the difference between what you might call non-player characters who just go through life nodding, yes sir, no sir, whatever you say, COVID, yeah, yeah, I'll believe everything you say, and maverick people that are saying, hold on a minute, I'm seeing this in a much bigger arena here, a much bigger panorama, and this doesn't make sense to me. And by the way, I'm not going to cooperate with the people that want to control me because I can see they want to control me. That's consciousness. And this is the difference between conscious people who are overriding the program and non-conscious people who are being run by the program. Okay, and I want you to go wherever you want because

16:46 Look, I obviously know Elon Musk is doing the brain interface and the 5G and all of it. I don't trust him as far as I can throw him. I'm still banned on Twitter. But at the same time, I see him saying, go outside. You know, I see him coming out against censorship, all these things. And I also see All these prominent people from Ice Cube to Ice-T to Russell Brand to you name it, sounding just like David Icke and Alex Jones. Is that them riding the awakening that they witness happening or are they part of the awakening? And maybe the best test case, I respect your view, is then who do you think Elon Musk really is? Well, Alex, they're not.

17:28 They're not David Icke and Alex Jones. They're an incredibly mild version of it. And one of my great concerns is that the alternative media is being pushed closer to the mainstream in significant areas. Because, you know, after COVID or with COVID, a lot of doctors came in, a lot of other people came in who were mainstream people. And that was great, to talk about the bait jab and all that was great. But what they've also done, a lot of them, is bring the rest of their mainstream belief system with them. And look how we started off this chat. The cutting edge of this is way, way over the horizon from that, what I call the mainstream of the alternative.

18:19 Russell Brand, he had me on his shows years and years and years ago to take the piss. You know, he had me on and he put pictures up with the audience on the TV saying, well, we see a reptile, we see a reptile, we see a reptile. He wasn't interested. in getting across what was actually happening. And then after COVID, another bandwagon arrived and he jumped on it. And he then becomes, oh, Mr. Exposing What's Going On. What he's talking about, what these others are talking about, and I'm glad they are,

18:57 was being exposed decades ago by some of us, you know, and it's very, very important that the alternative media is not barricaded in By hearing no further people who won't go into these deep areas where the real truth and cause of all this lies, what we're seeing in this world of the seen is the symptom not the cause, we must keep pushing the cutting edge. And so in terms of Elon Musk, here's my questions, Alex. First of all, He says that AI could be the end of humanity as we know it. Absolutely true. And then he starts a company called Neuralink to connect the human brain to computers and AI. He is putting up these low-orbit satellites through SpaceX, which are fundamental with others to creating this cloud

19:56 which I'm talking about. And the cloud is not just the bridge conduit between the astral dimension and this one, it's also the cloud to which we are meant to be connected, not least through the content of the Chab, to become a hive mind. where everyone thinks the same, because it's coming from a central point. I mean, the last thing we should be doing is connecting technology or artificial intelligence to the human brain. What are you doing, Mr. Musk? And then he's got this Tesla, which is the climate change agenda. It's the whole basis of why Tesla exists, with the electric cars doing far more damage to the environment than ever petrol and diesel car does. And then I ask this.

20:50 You know, people say to me, yeah, but he bought Twitter and he's a free speech absolutist. Well, he's not, but that's what he claims. Okay, and he put out the Twitter files, yeah, okay, and what did the Twitter files say? Well, they said the deep state completely controlled Twitter. Yes, right. The deep state completely controlled Twitter and what was said on it and what wasn't, and Facebook and Google and Google owned YouTube. So question, why would the deep state and your Black Rocks and your vanguards and your state streets complete cult operations? Why would they not only sell to Musk, Twitter, but also threaten to take him to court to

21:38 force him to buy it. And then there's this question I have. Who owns Twitter? Well, Elon Musk owns Twitter. Oh, well, just hold on a second. Twitter's been absorbed into something called X Corporation. And so Twitter basically doesn't exist except as a name, as a corporate entity. It's X Corporation, or X Corp. But that has a parent company. called X Holdings Corporation. Now, I don't know whether you came across this, but recently there was a court case in which a fired employee of Twitter took Twitter to court trying to get their just desserts. And part of that was their lawyers

22:23 asked Twitter to name the shareholders of X Holdings Corporation, which actually owns Twitter. And the judge said, yes, yes, we want to see it, produce the document. So they did. And all 95 the judge. who the 95 were on agreement that he would tell no one else, including his clients. So who are the 95? We should know in a transparent situation that we are apparently dealing with. By the way, David, I'm familiar with this. What you're saying is totally true and I totally agree with you. If they know there's a huge awakening coming, that they weren't able to stop, they want to lead it. And so whereas we continue to be suppressed,

23:21 Now there's all these new people that basically become watered down versions of us. And I think people should be aware of that. But I do see it as a major victory that their brute force censorship didn't work. So they're having to now try to lead the opposition. I do see this as a defeat for them. Yeah, well, you see, they saw the potential big time of the alternative media at the time the COVID card was played. And of course they reacted to that with mass censorship, ludicrous censorship, and it's still going on and it's still expanding. But they know they can't shut down everything. And it was Lenin who said, worse to the effect of

24:05 How do you control the opposition? You run it yourself. They were worse than the effect that he said. And so we've got to be very, very careful about this and not let people come in and not just take it over, but then limit the range to which it will go. And because that's absolutely vital, because if you don't understand the unseen, you know where you're going to understand the scene. David, I totally agree with you. And it's not to say we're the original gangsters or something. We're not territorializing this. We want an awakening and it is happening, but they're launching all of this to try to lead the folks that are awakening right now. We'll talk about what comes next and where you see this fight going. David Ikes, our guest, stay with us.

28:28 I believe there'll be a Great Awakening by 2016. There'll be a big pushback into the middle of the 2025. And I think this will all be decided by 2030. And I'm listening to this saying, okay, we'll see if that happens. It all happened basically as you said. And now no one can deny the Great Awakening is here. But at the same time, the evil, the dark forces are intensifying. and are really on the march. So how would you describe this if it was a soccer game, but you know you were a top goalie yourself before you became a broadcaster with the BBC. If this was a British style football game, how would you describe where we are and what's happening? Are the bad guys winning? Are the good guys winning? Or are we at a stalemate?

29:23 The game isn't over yet. That's the point. And where we are now, as you will know, I mean, when I started out in 1990 on this road that I'm still on, no one wanted to know. You talked about this stuff, reptiles, you're mad, and all this stuff. And, oh no, people running the world, that's impossible. A few people can't run the world, they couldn't do it. All that was completely dismissed. But look at it now. Look at it now. I mean, it's a phenomenal number of people now, not least since COVID, that have started to see that the world's not like they thought it was. They're starting to see how the dots connect and how the same thing is happening everywhere. How does that happen without coordination? So, you know, the people that are kind of relatively new to this

30:22 they will look at the situation and go, we're in real trouble because no one's waking up. Not enough people are waking up. But if you have the perspective of 1990, then the number of people that are now starting to see it is absolutely fantastic. What we've got to do is turn the seeing it into not cooperating with it. And you know, I said a long time ago that It's got to get really bad before enough people will... you know, concentrate their minds that actually action is necessary and necessary urgently. And so every time they're pushing on, and the more it impacts on people's lives, the more people are becoming aware that actually the conspiracy theorists were not theorists at all. And that is happening. But at the same time, you've got this rolling out

31:22 of this digital concentration camp. And that has always been the goal, always been the game. And you know, there's three groups of people. Two of them, they've basically got. The second group, maybe there's potential to move across, but they've basically got them. The first group is people who just, I call them non-player characters, who just, just accept what they're told without question. If someone in authority says it, then it must be true. Then you've got the second group that can actually see that something's not right and they really don't want to do what the authorities are telling them, but they fear the consequences of not doing so. They are basically under the control of the cult, absolutely. The third group, which is getting bigger, this is the point, are those that can see it more and more and

32:20 are refusing to cooperate with it. And they're the ones, therefore, that this cult has to target more than anyone. First of all, they have to do everything they can to stop that group communicating what it's seen and communicating what it's researched. But even then, as I said earlier, they're not going to stop all of it. So, what they have to do then, this is what this is all about, is say, OK, you want to challenge us, you want to not cooperate, that's fine, but we are going to have a global digital currency

33:03 which is it was in a book I wrote called Robots Rebellion in 1992, it came out in 93 about this end of cash and the one world currency, that we are going to not only have a digital global currency but we're gonna make it programmable. And that means that we can dictate what you can use it for and what you can't. And if you want to challenge us, well, how are you going to eat? How are you going to pay the rent? How are you going to survive? Because you're not going to be able to. And what we've seen, Alex, in the last few days in Britain

33:46 is a precursor of that, as Nigel Farage has come out, because he's well known, he's got publicity, but loads and loads of other people before him have gone through the same thing. I mean, I've been debanked, I would imagine you've been messed with, right? Well, I was banned from PayPal, I didn't even bloody use it. But the thing is that the banks are now starting to say, If you have the wrong opinion, you can't have a bank account. Now, okay, the idea, of course, is to get rid of cash so you can't operate outside the banking system to get this digital currency in, which is programmable, so they have complete control over your finances and your ability to function. And all that

34:38 is targeting this third group, the awakening group, the increasingly maverick group. And that's why they're doing it. And... Well, I totally agree and they admit that they want to use it for control over. So let me ask you this. If this group had their druthers, Do we just use get used for body parts for a cyborg system like you've all know a Harari talks about or Is it a childhoods in type scenario if this outside alien group had its way the satanic group had its way? What would the world look like versus? You predicted the future before, you say we're gonna win. How do you see this battle unfolding? I know you say it's up to us, and I agree with you, but looking into the future again, like you did on my show 20 years ago, 25 years ago, give us your projection into what you see unfolding. Okay, well, I mean, this is far out. I go into this deeply in the dream. Think of this astral dimension, which is interpenetrating ours.

35:42 And it's a range of frequency. So at the top end of the astral dimension is much higher frequency, much more awareness than in the lower levels where the demonic is, the lower levels of the astral. I wrote a book which, the first one that I wrote after my head blew off in 1990, it was called Truth Vibrations. And I named that because what I gleaned, various ways that I explained, was that a vibrational change was coming, a frequency change, that was going to awaken humanity from its slumber, from its coma. And the people that were more awake were going to be affected first.

36:34 And then eventually people who were fast asleep, solid gold asleep, were going to start to be affected. Now in 1990, there was no evidence that that was the case. But now look at it and you can see the impact. Now this truth vibrations, as I call it, I call it truth vibrations because what I was told is that and what I gleaned, various ways that I explained, was that all all that had been hidden from us, this frequency change was going to bring to the surface so that we could see it. Now, and this is what I wrote in 1990. Now, look at what we know now, Alex, that we didn't know then. Look at what we know now that we didn't know a year ago, five years ago, ten years ago, twenty years ago. This is happening. And in terms of this astral dimension, this truth vibration frequency

37:31 that is rebalancing everything from its imbalance, from its distortion, is coming down the astral frequencies. And it's coming down towards this demonic realm. And this demonic realm is seeking to retreat into this reality because of what's going on. And as a result, it's created this technological system so that it can enter more and more our reality. And this lower astral level, the demonic, is chaotic, it's inverted, it's crazy, it's a mess, it's full of upheaval, and what you're seeing in the world

38:24 is that being transferred into our world. So it's becoming more and more crazy, more and more... And by the way, let me interrupt you. This is totally on target for my own research and just spiritual gut level analysis and the spirit, is that that's why even the top globalists no longer say they're atheists. They go, oh yeah, there is something. We're in artificial reality. It's enslaved us. And they're trying to create a silicon new reality to escape to because their false satanic reality is being bombarded. So all they're running around like chickens with their heads cut off and freaking out and all these acts of power and control is them basically going into a death spiral or a spasm. Do you agree with that and speak to that? Well, they're like ducks. They serenely make their speeches.

39:21 serenely say what's going to happen, but their little feet are going like that under the water. Because, you know, the only way that this demonic realm can control humans is if humans stay unconscious. When we expand our awareness, when we put aside all preconceived idea and preconceived belief in reality and everything, and say, I'm gonna let my own experience and information be my guide and not preconceived idea, you start to realize what the game is. And the more people that awaken to that,

40:06 the more that energy of awakening will dominate these village idiots. That's what they are. You know, in the Kingdom of the Blind, the one-eyed man is king. It's very, very appropriate that one of their major symbols is a single eye, because they are the one-eyed man. And they have prevailed this far by keeping humans blind in both eyes. It's not that they are omnipotent and all-powerful bunch of prats.

40:43 Anyone that wants to control everything like they do is obviously suffering from extreme levels of insecurity for a start. Secure people don't want to control others, they just want to get on with their lives and let others get on with their lives. So these are not all powerful, they're not. The trick is to convince us that they are. It's like authority. Authority in the human world of the scene is simply the demonic made manifest in our reality. So people say, well you can't go against authority, it's too powerful. Oh really? What if millions or billions of people say to authority, a tiny number, we're not having it? Well, let me raise an example of that. You and I saw this over a decade ago, but the world sees an analysis to show it. Even the Hollywood stars come out and say, everyone hates us. There's nothing more uncool than being a Hollywood star. You see Prince Charles, King Charles, basically almost everybody laughing at them in their little ridiculous outfits, their regalia.

41:45 But do you think the establishment who's retreated into their bubbles realizes that the world is turning against them very, very quickly? Well, I think they do. And you know, once they put themselves on public display, which is basically when the COVID card was played, and they knew that when they played that, great vast numbers of people just go along, nodding dogs. but they would awaken significant numbers of people who wouldn't go that direction and would see it and would awaken to more as a result. So they have a goal of 2030, which they want to pull forward if as much as they can, for a simple reason. Once you put yourself on public display,

42:43 you have a certain period, as short as you can get away with, to so literally lock down digitally and technologically through AI the population before enough of them wake up to overthrow your nonsense. So they are really pushing this on. And the thing is, you know, it's what I was trying to get across in terms of the lack of omnipotent power that they really have. Their power is the power we give them. And that is that you can look at censorship

43:22 and you can say, oh, that's where they've got the power of censorship. Yeah, but what's censorship really? It's an expression of fear, because if they weren't frightened of the truth coming out, they wouldn't be censoring. And all this imposition of the digital currency and the digital concentration camp is actually an expression of desperation and fear. Because they know if they don't push this through fast over this period, then enough people are going to wake up to bring it down. And David, I totally agree with you. And so you're talking 35,000 foot view here. But for the listeners who do want these questions drilled into,

44:09 We know the enemy is going to strike back. So what do you make of the Ukraine war, of Zelensky, of them saying the Russians are going to blow up the nuclear power plant in the next few days with no evidence? What do you make of Biden, who they obviously want to get rid of now? Who are they going to bring in? I mean, just as they know they're losing their power and they're desperately trying to bring in their world government, their world currency, everything we said openly happened. We're totally vindicated. but that's us saying hey we're right in the past. Listeners again want to know what's coming in the future and what we do to counter this. So let me let's walk through a few scenarios here. Ukraine war. Well I've been saying for decades that the plan was to bring the west into conflict with an alliance of Russia and China with Iran thrown in and stuff like that. It doesn't necessarily have to be a

44:58 and is the key. We're talking about Russia and Ukraine, but in the background is the biggie. China is the blueprint for the world. And the Mao revolution, I suggest, was actually a cult revolution using a front man called Mao. And the idea was to create a closed society in which a system of mass control, not least through technology.

45:39 could be incubated and perfected and then played out across the world. And so that's why we've had this, if you want to connect a few dots, not only has the Chinese system been played out more and more across the world since the quote COVID, which came out where it's a set of China, you've had for decades to production to China and the East, especially China. And so they've given China all the aces in terms of supply of producing and supplying basic products, etc. This has all been orchestrated. I totally agree. Stay right there. We got to break in a few minutes, but we got a futile break. But it's on record that China has been given control of 98 percent of rare earth minerals for all the electronics. It's on record that

46:47 with CIA and 49 double-crossed Chiang Kai-shek and back Mao. It's on record that it wasn't Nixon that opened it up, he just made the alliance public. So quantify when you say cult people always say who runs it what runs it it's different bloodlines different elites that resonate with this anti-human, destructive force, and that they have built China up, I mean, 90% of it didn't have electricity 60 years ago, into this juggernaut. Who is the cult? And then continue, because it's not debated that the CIA put Mao Zedong into power. Who is the cult? What is their plan for China? Okay, so if people just imagine a massive spider's web around the world, and there's a spider in the middle,

47:31 Now that spider ultimately are these astral demonic forces. The strands immediately around the spider are the most secretive secret societies that will know pretty much all that's happening. As you come out from the spider, still in the hidden, you're coming into the secret societies we know of, the Freemasons, the inner core of them, the Knights of Malta, the Knights Templar, the inner core of the Jesuit Order, on and on. Skull and bones is an expression of it in America, of course. And as you come out, you eventually reach what I call the cusp, the cusp in the web. And this cusp is where the hidden meets the seen. And at that cusp are

48:23 the Bilderberg Group, the World Economic Forum, the explosion of think tanks and Soros-funded, often non-governmental organizations, the Trilateral Commission, the Council on Foreign Relations, the other expressions of that network as well. And their job at the cusp is to take the agenda coming through the hidden from the spider and play it out into the public arena, the world of the scene, through corporations and Silicon Valley and governments and banks and World Health Organization and so on. And so when you see that, and you then start to see that what appear to be random, unconnected corporations, World Health Organization, Silicon Valley and so on, CDC, Big Pharma,

49:20 If you go deep enough in these organizations and companies, you meet that level of them which connects to the web. Stay there because with the hearings last few months and this judge's ruling, that just came out. Intelligence agencies, government, big tech, media all working behind the scenes in secret to surveil and suppress the speech of America, who knows the same thing overseas. So there is some good forces fighting back. Why is it coming to the surface? That tells me evil is not fully in power. Incredible first hour of the David Icke, hour number two straight ahead, DavidIcke.com. Find his new book there. And that is The Dream. Find my book at Infowarsstore.com. We'll be right back.

51:16 All right, some stations don't carry this first five minutes, but the internet does. So I'm gonna ask David to talk about any topic he wants for five minutes. And then when we come back from break, we'll continue with that key point he hit at the end of the hour just minutes ago about these webs of control between corporate and government that look separate, but are actually the same group, the cult. Such an important point he'll finish in about five minutes. But David, in this little five minutes, what is it like to be vindicated completely? Well, like you said earlier on in the show, it gives you no pleasure to see what you said was coming to have arrived. Because, you know, people say, how did you know? But my answer to that is because it's not random.

52:10 If you're saying this is what's going to happen and it's all random, well, what's the chances of you getting it right or anything close to being right? You get it right because it's a plan. And if you uncover the plan, you can predict the future. But you're not actually predicting the future. You're predicting the future if there's no intervention by humans on the plan. And so the more this plays out in the way that you kind of say, this is what is planned and it happens. It's a bit disappointing really, because the idea is, the idea of what I do, what we do, is to alert enough people to stop that happening, to make sure it doesn't play out.

52:58 And like I said earlier, though, it has to get really bad to concentrate enough minds. And we are moving into that area now. I mean, after COVID, more and more people came, but more and more people will when they start to see that actually it's not a myth, it's not a theory, it's actually happening. But it's, like I say, I want to emphasize that it's not about predicting the future. It's about predicting the plan. I need to hear is the plan doesn't become the future because enough people intervene so i answer the question it gives you no one. Satisfaction really i mean it does give you confidence that you're on the right track and what you're doing and how you researching and are you coming across all this is valid because it turns out that it's true.

53:47 but it's not something you want to be. I mean, I don't want to be here a few years from now, as I will be by the way, and having this chat and saying, well, you know, people are now being connected to AI en masse, you know, I told you that was coming. That's no satisfaction at all. If you can avoid it happening by human intervention, That's the real reason we do what we do, of course. And I totally agree with what you said. I've interviewed probably 50 times, been very blessed to be at some of the same events as you and have dinner with you. when we cover Bilderberg together and some other times, but what you just said is the most important thing ever. We're not predicting the future. It's a set plan that if we let them continue to hijack the train or the plane, we're going to go to the destination they want. But of course, none of it's random. We're able to predict what's going to happen once we study their operations because they are in somewhat control now, but more and more, they're not in control. And that's really the most important part. We're not just

54:45 hijack bystanders here, if we get engaged and informed, we collectively can take control of our destiny together and take it away from these people. Well, it's a very simple thing. It's mathematics. I mean, get yourself, people, a pocket calculator. Tap in eight billion people and then take away the handful relative to eight billion that are running the show. And I think I see a way out of this. The idea... Wouldn't you say it's maybe a thousand people that are in on the whole conspiracy? I think, Alex, that if you get to the core of the core of the core of the core, you'd get them in a single room. But the thing is that their power is only in manipulating people to give their power to them. They have no power. Clearly,

55:40 A handful relative to the population can't have power over the population without the acceptance and acquiescence of the population. So that's what we're working towards, obviously. Stay there. We're going to come back to where you got cut off six minutes ago when the last hour ended when you were saying it's all out in the open, that it's compartmentalized spiderweb. Finish up that important point. We come back in 60 seconds. All right. I don't say this to be on a power trip because it's the opposite. I say it so people pay attention and really think about what's happening. Together, on this show right now, David Icke was awake before I was, and I've obviously been as successful as he has in getting people to awaken to the New World Order, but he's really been the trailblazer on how the thing operates and what they would pull and what they would do.

56:31 I would say in some ways I may have been more successful at actually reaching more people, but that's up in the air. It's not about keeping score here, we're all on the same team. Team consciousness, team freedom, team free will. But now it's out in the open that David's been hammering on for 30 plus years. that it's a spider's web and the corporations at the top act like they're different but they're really on the same team and that government is interface and governments look different but most of the major governments are controlled by the same cult. And now that's really come out in the congressional hearings with all the big tech and the intelligence agencies censoring and surveilling and controlling and there's really a great awakening to this. So you got cut off by the break at the end of the last hour, David, talking about that.

57:15 Yeah, so once you realize that these corporations and governments, court systems, judiciaries, banking systems, Silicon Valley, World Health Organization, World Trade Organization, are actually connected to this web, and of course through compartmentalization it means the vast majority of people in those organizations, indeed in those governments, have no idea there is a web. So, you have this network which is connecting these organizations. Now, this explains a great deal. So, when the COVID card was played,

57:57 Silicon Valley announced that it was going to censor anyone that challenged the official story of COVID coming out of the World Health Organization. Now, if you look at that from a bigger picture point of view, you'd say, well, hold on a minute. You're supposed to be the town square where we all have our opinion and then people make up their mind what to believe. What are you doing announcing right at the start you're gonna censor anyone that challenges the World Health Organization narrative because the World Health Organization is an asset of the cult. It was created by the cult through the Rockefeller family, not least, in 1948, and Silicon Valley is a cult operation. Therefore, the Silicon Valley corporations and platforms censoring on behalf of the cult a narrative

58:54 the anyone that challenges the World Health Organization a cult operation. Then you've got Big Pharma. Big Pharma is an absolute cult operation. And you know, it's a satanic organization, obviously, just as the cult is. So you know, because you know that if you go deep enough in the CDC, and the Food and Drug Administration in the United States, you're going to get to the point where they interact with the web. So you know that when Big Pharma comes along with Pfizer and Moderna or whatever, and asks the apparent regulatory agency of government supposed to protect the people from Big Pharma for permission to use their fake vaccine on younger and younger and more and more people, you know they're going to get it.

59:49 Because what's happening is Big Pharma, the cult, is going to the CDC and the FDA, the cult, and asking for permission to advance a cult agenda. So obviously they're going to get it. So this is how it works. So now you start to see that while you are looking at banks, plural, you're actually looking at bank singular, not least coordinated through organizations like the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland. So now you see why suddenly

1:00:26 These different banks are all working as one to say, no, if you've got the wrong opinion, then you're not going to have a bank account. Now, you look at the digital currency. Suddenly, all over the world, the central banks, coordinated through the Bank for International Settlements, are saying we want to introduce a digital currency. Why? How? How is it coordinated? Through the cult. This is how it works. Are we really believing that suddenly people all over the world in authority have the same idea of

1:01:06 I know, I've got a great idea. I woke up with it this morning. What we're gonna do is we're gonna put drag queens into schools and we're gonna get them to read stories first of all, and then we're gonna get them to strut their stuff as we expand it. This is cult organization. This is why the same things happen everywhere. And that's all admitted now that Bill Gates and the UN created global standardized systems for central bank digital currencies in the last decade with the Carnegie Foundation and the CIA. The US government's quarterbacking the new UN treaty, which is really a US treaty. Just like the group that runs the US created the UN. It's the same cult. When you get down to the Trilateral Commission, CFR, Bilderberg Group, it's the same hundred people that head up all the major organizations. Peter Hotez came out and said, oh, I don't take any money from Big Pharma. He just takes it from Bill Gates, and then he comes up with what Bill Gates wants. That gets recommended and adopted by government, then buys it from Bill Gates.

1:02:01 So no, Big Pharma's not funding him. Hotez makes the corporate recommendations that then buy the product from Bill Gates, but Bill Gates funds Hotez and their research. And he lies to us like we're idiots. But what does it mean now that these judges are coming out and exposing this? I mean, is, because I don't think the elites are the elites. I don't think they're in total control. I think we're seeing the cracks in the system as more people in the system that were compartmentalized, David Icke, decided to not go along with it. Well, yeah, that's a point. The system is so fiercely compartmentalized that people within it every day are contributing to this agenda's playing out without knowing there even is an agenda. This is the point. And I remember speaking at an event in London a long time ago now.

1:02:57 And a guy came up to me afterwards, and he was a retired leading executive of Shell Oil in South America. And he came to me, he said, I've just realized, listening to you, why so many things happened when I was working for Shell that I didn't understand at the time. And this is the compartmentalization. And what, you know, the alternative media putting this information out, some of us decade after decade of course, it's de-compartmentalizing that structure because people are getting it within the system from outside the system and thus they want to silence us. So these people, these renegade people,

1:03:51 who may not know the big picture at all, but they get that what they're being pressured to do is not what they should do. They are starting to rebel and they're starting to say, no, no, I'm not going along with it. It was kind of interesting. I mean, I don't know how this is going to play out, but. I was banned from 26 European countries by the Dutch government through the Schengen system. You're banned from one, you're banned from them all. And we've been challenging them in the courts. And we went to the district judge, first of all, and he did everything but walk into the bloody court with a rubber stamp, you know.

1:04:28 But we had another hearing a couple of weeks ago, and I don't know whether she's going to have the backbone to go all the way through with it, but I'm listening to this. I'm obviously not allowed into the Netherlands, so I'm on kind of Zoom or something. And she started asking the government lawyer very forensic questions. And I'm going, whoa, this is a bit different. And she wasn't having it. And the government lawyer was getting more and more flustered because he had no evidence. And then a few days later, she said, okay, I'll rule at the end of the month. A few days later, my lawyer in the Netherlands got a contact from her. And what's happened is she's actually looked into the law through which I was supposed to be banned.

1:05:16 And she found that the law has been changed. The Schengen law has been changed. So the law that they banned me with by interpreting it in a most ridiculous, ludicrous way, but anyway, the law that they used was actually removed in March. And she saw that, first judge, and she did because she was forensic. She wasn't just rubber stamping. She was saying, Actually, I want to know more about this and why you banned this man. Well, you always talk about that with your Bilderberg analogy where you're in Europe and go to the Bilderberg group and there's the military keeping you from going up the hill to cover it when they themselves are being oppressed. So here's this judge that's not acting as a repeater. She's actually going and doing research, being a human, and that breaks their control. Yes. And we'll see if she's got the backbone because basically,

1:06:08 Given what she's found, then the ban should be dismissed. But we'll see if she'll go against the Dutch government, which is seriously satanic and seriously fascist. I can't tell you. The Dutch government is one of the worst in the world. Let's talk about that. Why are they, of course, their minister that says he's going to ban their farms and already banned a large part of them, saying nitrogen is bad when it's the largest part of the atmosphere. He's now been rewarded to be the UN head of food operations. Now Ireland's announcing they're going to start banning their farmers. I mean, this is getting really naked when they're going to ban farmers and say they're, I mean, including plant crops. I mean, can you speak to cutting off the food agenda? Yeah. Well, if you're going to control people that don't want to be controlled, we're back to that third group again.

1:06:56 Then you have to create a system of control called dependency. This is what the so-called universal basic income is about. It's about destroying jobs, not least through AI, but inflation and many other things, so that if you're going to survive, you have to have the universal basic income, and that will come with consequences. If you challenge us, I mean, just look at what the banks are doing now. If you challenge us, if you have the wrong opinion, you're not going to get it.

1:07:32 And so if you want to create dependency, thus control, you have to control that which people are dependent upon. And in the world that we live, apart from water and oxygen, it's food. So what they're seeking to do is control food. Now, Mark Rutter, the prime minister of the Netherlands, and all I'll say is look at his eyes and they'll tell you who he is. He is a gopher for Klaus Schwab and the World Economic Forum. And the World Economic Forum has this food hub plan, all food hubs. So

1:08:15 control of food, in other words. And Rutter actually made a speech in 2021 in which he said that the Netherlands is going to support the World Economic Forum food hubs. He said it at Davos. And that the Netherlands is going to be the headquarters of it, because Rutter is a 100% He's a gopher, he's nothing up there, but he's absolutely doing the cults bidding. So is Tony Blair. That's why when either of them open their mouth, Biden too, when he can open his mouth,

1:08:57 they are speaking the agenda of the cult. How do we know what the agenda of the cult is? Well, what's Tony Blair calling for? What's Rutter calling for? What's the Biden administration calling for? And I'll tell you, what's Ardern, when she was Prime Minister of New Zealand, calling for? This is how you know, because these cult gophers are telling you in the way that they are saying this is what needs to happen. I totally agree. David, I've got so many questions I want to ask you here. But looking at this, I knew when I was reading their documents 30 years ago it was real. You knew it was real. I woke up to it from research. You woke up through revelation, which I think is the best way for it to happen. And I'm getting more reports from people that are getting thunderstruck, kind of like Saul on the road to Damascus, becoming Paul, gets hit by the bolt of light and sees the light and has this download. Can you speak to the download you received

1:09:56 And then because people want to know, I want to go back to the start, like in the download you got, like, okay, there's this alien group, it's like reptoids that kill children to open up dimensions, because we know this is all going on. But go back to the beginning, because you were trying to download all this and then, I know it's not that your views have changed, but your understanding of the information you've given has become, I would say, more focused or sophisticated as you're able to decode it. Because I've been, since then, I've not gotten massive downloads, but I've gotten big pieces, epiphanies, chunk after chunk, and you know when it's divine, when it's next level. But just getting into what makes David Icke work

1:10:36 what you were doing in life, you know, top broadcaster but a top goalie, you know, hosting the top show in the UK. I mean, you were a big deal and then all of a sudden you're on a trip to Peru and get thunderstruck. Speak to that. Well, I can talk about the process of what's happening to people when they get this Damascus as you describe it. I can certainly talk about that a little later. I can, because it's easily explainable what's actually happening in those situations. We'll talk about it now if you want. I mean, whatever you want to say. OK, I'll talk about it now. And we can talk about where I've come from a bit later. Yeah. OK.

1:11:20 describing earlier how the body is a biological computer and actually it's a software program. And it comes into this world with a life program which it will play out without the intervention of consciousness. And so you go along and the five senses, because this is a simulation, not just a simulation in this level. What we call the astral is another part of the simulation. And so what you're doing is following the program. And all your perceptions of reality

1:12:04 are coming in from the program through the media and what we call education and all this stuff. And you have a certain view of reality, not least through the left side of the brain, which sees everything as apart from everything else. And what happens when people have these revelatory moments, I had mine in Peru, as you say, is that consciousness connects You open enough from the program and you open your mind. You open your mind. If people just stopped believing and getting their perceptions of reality from five senses, from the five sense system, and just said this to themselves, look,

1:13:00 I can see only a tiny fraction of the reality, infinite reality, called visible light. So how the hell can I know all there is to know or as much as I need to know? from within that tiny band of free... You've spoken to that, I'm saying it's the same question. What is it in your life or the things you went through that the universe chose you to have this big understanding of things that's turned out to be so accurate? Or are you just saying randomly in the universe this just happened to you? Because I don't see it like that. I mean, go back to... Because I think it's not two questions, it's one question.

1:13:47 I don't think it's random. I mean, my life has been so synchronistic that put me on this road in 1990 that I don't think it's random. But where I was just going is this. There's one thing that cannot be denied and cannot be dismissed. And that is that whatever we think we know, at any point, there is always, always, always more to know. And if you work from that, it's like

1:14:30 To paraphrase the Greek philosopher Socrates, wisdom is knowing how little we know. And thus, every minute you know there's more to know. So what is it that is more to know? Instead of sitting in this... Look at the corporate media, look at the New York Times, the BBC, all of them have run, the Atlantic Monthly, all of them Do not ask questions, do not do your own research, that's bad. Now people should know when you're told don't check things out, don't read the fine print, that's what the bad guy tells you. Yeah, exactly. They don't want you to know. Because not knowing is their power. So when you

1:15:11 start to look at life from that point of view, whatever I think I know there's always more to know, what happens is your mind starts to open to other possibilities, at which point it starts to go beyond the five sense prison cell and you start to connect with expanded levels of consciousness. Not some alien in a bloody spaceship, your own consciousness that you have been separated from by your focus of attention only in five... The truth is you can plug your consciousness into the universe and beyond.

1:15:48 Well, we are the universe and beyond. That's the point. But we've been isolated, perceptually isolated, through various and many techniques, in a five-sense prison cell. So once you start to open your mind and let consciousness in, that's when you're tapping in to all this awareness and all this knowing that suddenly, revelatory, I can see it now. Why didn't I see it before? Because you were there before. Exactly, and I know you've been around a lot of these globalists, I have as well. They're like machines, like you said, they're not happy people, they just follow a program. Is it possible to free people that have been under this control? Or once they get under the control are they gone?

1:16:37 anyone can open to consciousness. It's the choice. But the more you submit to the program, the more entrenched you become in the program. I mean, you'll meet people and it doesn't matter how much information you put in front of them, how much evidence, they won't get it. They won't get it because literally they can't process that information because they can only process their program. But anyone can open up to it, and lots of people are. And you know what I'm finding, Alex? I don't know if you are, but people that are kind of new to this, some of them anyway, they can awaken in the way that I've described

1:17:26 to an extent that they get it in such a way that they become further forward in their understanding that people maybe have been researching this for 10 years. Absolutely, a lot of people are making instant jumps. Yeah, this is what's happening. This is what's happening because as these truth vibrations, this frequency comes in, it's coming into the simulation through the astral. I mean, you know, This simulation, this world we call human and even the astral on top, it's a mere smear of infinite reality. Sure, the astral is just the interface to this little sub-dimension. Yeah, it's a simulation. It's like a virtual reality game. The body and the brain is like a headset.

1:18:15 And what you do when you open your mind and let consciousness in is you're effectively taking the headset off because you're overriding the program and thus you can see things that others can't see. That's right. Take the headset off with David Icke. Take the face sucker off. We'll come right back with David Icke with another iconic segment. Stay with us. Infowars.com, DavidIcke.com. Check them both out. Speaking of support, we have the biggest sale of the year so far, the July 4th Super Sale going right now. And Nitric Boost is so good for your heart, your brain, your lungs, your cardiovascular. Everybody needs to clean out your blood and then take it on a routine basis. Plus it does great things for your muscles, your stamina, your libido. It's amazing. It is in stock right now.

1:19:57 You can travel up into the higher consciousness or you can be destroyed, basically destroyed, being bound to agents of chaos. But David Icke, what do you think it's like? Because I think it's fascinating to be one of these globalists, like a King Charles or any of them, because they act buffoonish, they're moronic, they try to project power, but when you look at them, they're repulsive. And if you go online, King Charles is incredibly unpopular. Bill Gates is incredibly unpopular. Klaus Schwab is incredibly unpopular. And so it was one thing 10 years ago even, still if somebody was established, but the average person thought they were powerful, the facades already fallen.

1:20:47 They're like, I guess, wannabe Greek gods that need to be worshipped to exist. I just, I feel like they've already been broken to a great extent, except we've got to face their temper tantrum that they're going to launch against us. From your study and research, what is it like to be possessed by these entities? Because you talk a lot about the satanic rituals and now it's all out in the open with the children and that they're doing this to be able to resonate closer to these avatars, these controllers. But what is it from your research like to be one of these people? Well, these people are basically incarnate demons.

1:21:29 You know, if you go back to what I said, Alex, about the biological body being a biological computer, what inhabits it is anything from an expanded state of awareness to a demonic, low-vibrational moron. So it's what's inhabiting the biological computer. And in terms of this cult, particularly the inner cause of this cult and the major gophers, they are demonically possessed.

1:22:08 I just say to people, look into the eyes because the eyes are indeed the window on the soul or the window on the no-soul. And you can see in the eyes the nature of the entity that's behind them. Go and look at Mark Rutter, the Netherlands Prime Minister. Go and look at his eyes. Look at Gates' eyes. Look at all these people's eyes and you'll see the demonic within them because that's what they are and what they're doing is hiding behind a biological computer system, a body, which looks like everyone else's. And so we look at them, people look at them and they say, oh, they're a human. But it's not what the body looks like, it's what's inhabiting the body and driving its behavior and driving its perceptions. And one of the things about this demonic realm

1:23:08 is that it has no capacity for empathy, it has no capacity for compassion, and thus when one of these entities is inhabiting one of these cult gopher bodies, that body a behavior will reflect the fact that it has no compassion and has no empathy. This is why Gates can do what he's done in the COVID era to vast numbers of people who are now dead or have their health destroyed for life, and he will have no emotional consequence for that because they're psychopaths.

1:23:47 Psychopaths, if you look at the psychopathic traits, the top two are no empathy, not being able to put yourself in the feelings of those you're affecting, and no compassion. This is why these people are as they are. They're demonically possessed. And, you know, I do want to talk about two things which I think are very relevant to many things that are going on. First of all, there's what people call God, and secondly, and I'll start with this one, is that When Morpheus in The Matrix held up a battery and said, the machines, or to go to the wider quote, the Matrix is a computer-generated dream world. It is. It's a simulation.

1:24:37 created or designed to turn human beings into one of these, a battery, it was a profound truth. Because these entities, which are the fallen angels in the Bible, that's another thing about religion. You look at the common themes. What Christianity calls Satan or the devil is this force. What Islam calls Iblis or Shaitan is this force. And therefore they're all talking about the same thing without actually realizing it.

1:25:13 So, what's happening is this demonic realm is feeding off human energy. That's what it's doing. Now, what kind of human energy? This will explain a lot about the world. Because they're in a low vibrational state, They can only absorb low vibrational energy. Things like expanded consciousness and high frequency states of being, it's never the twain shall meet. They're on different wavelengths. So they have to manipulate the human population

1:25:52 to fall into low vibrational emotional and mental states of fear, of anxiety, of resentment, of hatred, of conflict, because that generates through the emotional and mental energetic expression that low vibrational energy which they feed off. When they're doing a sacrifice and they say we're sacrificing to the gods, what does that mean? It means that they're going through rituals. So this is why even today these cultists are using Babylonian rituals, ancient Egyptian rituals, etc., because they are designed specifically to generate the terror

1:26:41 and the buildup of the terror in the sacrifice to the point where they generate... We know they want a bunch of slaves to feed off of, then why do they want to depopulate us? Is that because they figured out that out of the mass of people enough resistance is going to form and they can't keep control? They want to replace us with robots that serve them? Because if they want to use us for psychic energy, why at the same time are they trying to kill as many of us as possible? Well, because their plan is to make it far, far more efficient.

1:27:24 You see, if they're connecting AI, which is basically them, that's what it is, to the human brain. And what they're doing... They're terrorizing and torturing us and getting way more energy off the individual. Yeah, they are dictating our perception and emotional states and thus we become basically machines to generate this low vibration. So the answer is what you just said, we're being converted from them doing it at an ambient level to them actually directly farming us. Yeah, think the Matrix and the babies feeding the machines, the energy of the babies feeding the machines. That's what we're looking at. A technological version, an AI version of... All right, stay right there because he mentioned the occult rituals.

1:28:16 public satanic events at CERN, private ones, Bohemian Grove, Skull and Bones. And I look at it and I laugh until I realize how serious they are when I've gone and infiltrated some of these events and covered them. They take it deadly serious. And why are they doing such ancient rituals over and over again? What is the paradigm? What is the signature? Why did they in the 2012 Olympics have grim reapers using a COVID virus to murder everyone in London? We'll show that when we come back. Why do they have to tell us What they're going to do before they do it. David Icke's our guest and 5G is opening up the dimensions for this. What is the Hadron Superconducting Super Collider doing in Europe? David Icke, DavidIcke.com. His new book drops very, very soon. The newest one's The Trap. The latest one that's about to come out is The Dream. Find it all at DavidIcke.com. I'm Alex Jones, InfoWars.com. We'll be right back.

1:29:09 Final segment with the amazing David Icke. I'm Alex Jones your host. You'll find our coordinates at info wars.com and info war store.com Thank you all for your support All right, David getting into the occult because you raised this and I meant to I had the crew hours ago going get Bohemian Grove ready Get skull and bones ready get the CERN rituals together. I'm gonna bring up Why do they do these? stupid rituals because you know I stuck in a Bohemian Grove was laughing at the ritual until I saw that the men were shaking and in beyond anything I ever saw at Holy Roller churches I went to when I was a kid. They were completely possessed here. And you look at CERN, everywhere they're doing classical, ancient, occultic rituals. Why are they doing it, David Icke? Well, first of all, I've studied this and I've talked to many, many Satanists and former Satanists around the world over these decades. And these

1:30:09 cult gophers, shall we say, are terrified of the demons. They're terrified and they are frightened of the consequences of failing them. They really are. And what's happening in these rituals is they are, what can happen is that these rituals, if you're talking about a ritual around, say, a single individual, The ritual can create a vibrational bridge or connection between the person and the demonic entity. And this allows that demonic entity to come through into this reality and possess the person. And there's so many of these, I mean, satanic rituals, all the people involved are literally possessed.

1:31:05 And like I said earlier, what these rituals are doing from a sacrifice to the gods point of view is producing the energy from the sacrifice that these entities in the astral feed off. So you can see someone being emotional with your eyes because that's happening within 3D. but the energy that that emotional response is giving off you can't see. You might be able to feel it, but you can't see it because it's astral. And so in that astral realm these entities are feeding off the terror and the fear of the sacrifice. And in this realm that terror manifests chemically as adrenochrome and adrenaline.

1:31:58 And thus the Satanists in this realm will drink the blood and get adrenochrome rush because it's like a rush to them. And it's the chemical expression of the terror that the entities in the astral are feeding off. And so that's why they do it. And in these various rituals, you can do it that way, or you can actually create an energetic environment that bridges the two realities so the demonic entity can possess the person. And this is an interesting point that I've found over the years. We see a hierarchy. We'll see a prime minister, a deputy prime minister, a president, a deputy president, a leader of the house and all that. So you see the human hierarchy. But within the satanic realm of the cult, the hierarchy that dictates that

1:32:59 is dependent on the level of demon that possesses you. So if you're one of the demonic, if you like, masters, then you, possessed by that entity, will be higher up the satanic cult hierarchy than someone who appears to be higher than you in the human hierarchy. Because the hierarchy of control is dictated by the scale and level of the demon that's possessing you, which means what? It means that the hierarchy in the demonic

1:33:38 becomes the hierarchy in the human world, the real hierarchy, the one they never talk about. And this is why you've got people who are dictating to apparently people who are higher than them. Well I was about to say David, you talked 33 years ago about secret satanic rituals and members of Parliament slitting kids' throats later came out to be true and Jimmy Savelle and the BBC were the first to expose it decades before Jeffrey Epstein. You exposed it all because you were there and had the intel. If you pull back from this, now almost every national show or the Grammys or whatever is demons and women in cages and men as Satan and doing mock sacrifice. So the stuff they used to do at Bohemian Grove and Secret has now been fully externalized. They're showing us mass plague, mass death, our children dying in mass, our children in cages. I mean, you just turn on a random show, it's all hell on earth.

1:34:35 So what are they doing? Just getting us ready for something? Or what is this? What they're doing is they're taking the demonic and all its paraphernalia and its symbolism. You see, everything is a frequency. So a symbol is a frequency. So the pyramid and all-seeing eye, if you saw it on a frequency wave field level, it would be a certain resonance. So, so are all these other symbols, the inverted cross, the inverted pentagram. They are generating a particular frequency which that symbol is designed to generate. So when you're looking... So you're saying they're invoking all the sacrifice and war and death that's been done in the same ritual, so even though no one's being actually killed there, it's the same as that?

1:35:26 Yeah, well when you're looking at one of these stage shows or the Grammys, this Pratt, what's his name, Sam Smith, bloody lunatic. When you're looking at all that stuff, that's generating a satanic frequency. And if you, what we focus upon, we connect with. what we give our attention to, we connect with energetically, frequency. And thus as you're looking at this thing, or looking at this scene, you are being pulled into that satanic frequency through your attention. Now this is where awareness comes in Alex. If you are aware that

1:36:07 but that's how it works, you are conscious of it, it has no effect on you. But if you're unconscious and you're just looking at it, you think it's some bloody stage show or something, only that, then that attention, that guard down, that consciousness guard down, will connect you with it. That's why they're doing it. That's why they're putting it in your face, because of the connection it makes and thus the impact it then has on your perception. Well, that's right David and these things it always starts the first few minutes is not openly satanic and then the devil's then the sex slaves then the cages with children in them come out once they think they've got you at an unconscious level and then some people overdo it they say well if anybody ever does an okay symbol they mean they're a Satanist. No when I do that it's just a habit of growing up seeing people say okay everything's great or that was great food but when they do it the symbols mean something different so how do we separate

1:37:05 using a symbol for good versus evil or does evil own certain symbols? Well, every kind of symbol has a frequency but the key is intent. That's the key. What generates the frequency is the intent. If the intent of a symbol is to generate a frequency of satanic nature, then that's what it will do. But if you do something similar with an intent that is very different, then that intent will mean that that whatever you do is generating... Sure, but maybe I'm programmed by the Jell-O commercials and the Sprite commercials are like, oh, that was a great dinner. And I do that just because I mean, like, that's really good or listen to me. But am I have I been programmed when I do that or my intent's not to be bad? That symbol by itself is like the rainbow is in the Bible, but now it's the symbol of the pedo movement. I mean, is the rainbow bad or is it good or is it just a symbol?

1:38:04 Well, the rainbow is a symbol of something called the Noahide laws, of course, which people should research. And it's interesting that the Noahide laws, which come from rabbis, etc., in the past, should have the symbol all along of the the rainbow and suddenly, I mean, is it possible to go anywhere without seeing a rainbow symbol these days? Those two things I don't think are a coincidence. But you can look at a rainbow and it's a rainbow or you can have a symbol of a rainbow that is, the intent is that it represents something else to you, it will represent that frequency. And thus, you know, all these different symbols can be

1:38:55 Incredible. David, you've been so gracious. Two minute break, five more minutes and I promise you can go. But I want to talk about your book for five minutes because I read the last one. Incredible. The Trap. The new book is coming out. The Dream. Back in two minutes we'll talk about The Dream with David Eichmann. Our special guest host takes over. Please remember I'm listening for supported folks. Infowarsstore.com. July 4th sale is still going. Nitric Boost and other products. They're all up there, 60 to 25% off, store-wide, double pay three points. Please take action. It's funds, incredible interviews like this. Final segment with the iconic David Icke of davidicke.com. And of course, we're gonna name this interview once it's upload is David Icke on God and Demons. And then of course, Drew Hernandez, Lothar Verbera about to take over next segment. So you wanted to get into the nature of God and then a little bit about the book, the new book, David Icke.

1:39:48 Yeah, I think all the different religions, it's a bit of a divide and rule really because there's a lot of things that they agree on. So what is God? What a Christian will call God, I call the infinite. It's a force that pervades the entirety of existence and you can connect with it and be inspired by it, or you can be separated from it and thus be demonically manipulated. And this, what I called earlier the truth vibrations, this vibrational change that's going on that's breaking up this simulated mind prison, it's what a Christian would call God, what I would call the infinite, it's actually making it happen.

1:40:42 And this is what this demonic realm, this demonic force, is retreating from as it imposes itself more and more on this simulated nonsense. And that's why it's coming in, the demonic realm is coming more and more into this reality in its retreat, and that's why we're seeing all these bizarre things going on in this chaos. But you know, instead of saying, do you believe in the Christian God or do you believe in the Islamic God or whatever, It's a force of love, it's a force of wisdom, it's a force that holds the entirety of infinite reality together. And whatever we call it, that's what it is. And instead of being divided and ruled by our perceptions of it, let's just

1:41:31 be brought together by understanding that it may be different things to different people but it's actually the same force we're talking about and it is in the process of bringing an end to this nonsense but we're gonna have chaos and upheaval because if you corner a rat it's not going to go quietly and that's what we're experiencing. We're experiencing The demonic realm and its cult expression in our reality are being cornered and it's thrashing out and it's desperately doing everything it can to hold on to its power. And it will for a little while, but it's over lads, it's over boys, it's over people. It's just a matter of it playing out. Powerful information. In the time we have left, give us a sneak peek of the new book.

1:42:29 Yeah, it's called the dream because this, what I call the simulation, and more and more of course mainstream scientists are saying actually it does look like it's a simulation. It just, so many mysteries of life disappear once you realize this is a simulation. It's an induced dream. It's what it is. Do you know, years ago, if I've got time quickly to tell you, years ago, when I was a journalist, I'd wake up in the morning in bed and I'd put the radio on, BBC Radio 4 or something, the current affairs show, and I'd maybe fall back to sleep, you know, many days, and then I'd wake up. Thought I'd been asleep for ages, it was just a minute or so, and I'd have a dream, a very vivid dream, and that vivid dream, when I woke up,

1:43:13 was actually related to what the radio story or discussion was about. So it was an induced dream by what I was hearing subconsciously. And this simulation is an induced dream. And we can stop being controlled by it, and I explain in the dream what this dream is and how we can take our power back from it. We can. Thank you so much. It's always great to talk to you, but this is the interviews just get better and better. I hope when the book comes out, you'll join us again soon. David Icke, David Icke.com. Thank you so much, my friend.