Alex Jones And Steve Bannon Do The Deep Dive On AI, Transhumanism, And The Globalist Plan To Depopulate The Earth - Must Watch!

00:00 This will be one of the biggest. issues of the 2024 presidential campaign. And they're gonna say, oh, it's about deep fakes and misinformation and they're making up commercials on Trump. It's so much deeper than that. With WorldCoin, this WorldCoin launch over the last couple of days, we are now into it about, because this gets to the thesis of depopulation. You can absolutely see that that is the overall plan. Their plan is to transcend humanity, transcend homo sapiens, have a homo sapien you know, enhanced homo sapien, they're focused on eternal life. They're complete atheists. They're absolutely focused on eternal life. They want a massive depopulation of the Earth's planet in total control using artificial intelligence and other means. So this is the big battle we're going to face, right? And what they're going to start turning all their cards are on the table is this battle right here.

01:12 InfoWars, the most banned network in the world. And it's Monday, July 31st, 2023. We are kicking today's broadcast off with all the huge breaking news with Steve Bannon and his editor, in the most important desk I think in this whole operation, that's transhumanism, Joe Allen. Now Steve's only got a couple segments with us, very busy guy, probably works harder than I do when it comes to fighting the globalists at four, five, six shows a day. We've got him for 30 minutes or so, then I'm gonna continue on with Joe Allen and his bio and what he's done and what he's written in this new book coming out. People that have read it and seen it are blown away.

02:06 There's only a few people really that are ahead of the curve on exposing transhumanism, and that's people like Joe Allen and Steve Bannon. And of course, we've been focused on it as well, discovering that it's really the religion of the globalists. Like where's the new world order want to take us? Where does Klaus Schwab want to get us? With all the collectivism, you'll own nothing, you'll have nothing, the future's not human. Well, it's that, the future's not human. So to tell us about the new book, and more, we'll put the book on screen, is Steve Bannon. So Steve, You're one of the leading experts on this and for folks that don't watch The War Room, the people hide under a rock, then introduce us to Joe Allen. Well, you know, Alex, you kind of inspired this. Back in 2004, I tried to make a film on transhumanism with, after 2004, 2005, I tried to make a film when I was doing documentary films with Steve McAveety and the team that had just finished making Passion of the Christ and I could never get it financed. But so I always had an interest in it, but quite frankly,

03:04 And InfoWars inspired me that we had to do a much better job on War Room after we started. We know we're following impeachment and different things. And I noticed, I read on the Federalist, I kept reading these really great stories about transhumanism. And I contacted the writer, Joe Allen, and he was able to get Joe over as an editor for us and putting up all his content. You know, I think that your show has been the leader. And what I've loved is that you've been mocked and ridiculed for over a decade, you know, maybe two decades for following this. And as we see right now, coming out of what's coming out in the labs, coming out in this arms race, artificial intelligence coming out with every day, we're hearing more about CRISPR. You know, you were right.

03:53 And they are wrong. And that's why I think it needs a we've got to take this up next level. And I think we have to incorporate this into the mega movement into the populist nationalist movement. This is probably as you know. the biggest single fight we've got because they're trying to go to homo sapien 2.0, homo sapien enhanced. Their great replacement theory is not about blacks or whites or Asians or any religious group or ethnicity. It's homo sapiens, human beings. And so I'm really excited about the book. I think it's going to be a tour de force. I think the timing coming out

04:31 really with your two books over the last six months, The Great Reset First and then your new Great Awakening, which is gonna be another tour de force, is gonna really be able to launch us into the fall when people start coming back from vacation. And we have this run up to the 2024 election about the really the underpinnings of what this fight's about. So I think combination of Great Awakening and Dark Aeon will arm our movement with as deep a thinking as you can get if you went to Oxford or if you went to Harvard or if you were able to attend the World Economic Forum and get all the briefings they get, these two books, I think a combination would arm every American and quite frankly, all the international people watch our show with the intellectual infrastructure to think this through and to actually weaponize yourself to stand up for mankind.

05:25 And that's what Joe Allen's done. I'm not going to go over his whole bio until you've left us because I know you've got to go soon. But he holds a master's degree from Boston University where he studied cognitive science and human evolution as they pertain to religion. But let's just put the book back on screen. But hang on a bit. Hang on a second. We'll talk about that. This is the power of it, Alex, is that If you remember, Eric, I think one of the great analysts of American politics and culture was, I think, Eric Hoffer, who was a stevedore, who was a longshoreman, I think in San Francisco. One of the great intellects. And he basically did it by reading and thinking. And he didn't have 10 PhDs or advanced degrees. The power of Joe Allen is not simply the master's degree he got at Boston University in theology, which is the same place Dr. Martin Luther King went,

06:11 But he's essentially, when I met him, he was writing, he was a rigger for a rock concert. He's a rigger, I mean, the most dangerous job. Anybody know anything of thing, he's a true roadie, which is up in the rafters with a belt on and he's a working class blue collar guy like Eric Hoffer who has actually done this by reading and thinking and not having to have 10 degrees slapped to his name, a PhD from Cambridge or Oxford. Well sure he's got the common man street smarts and then the degree on top of it and I've read a lot of your articles I've seen you on the show a lot and you're just piercing points in fact many times I've said to my producers and now we're finally doing it I'm like I want that guy on I want that person on and we we talk about this I mean there's so many important desks there's so many

06:58 Absolutely. And I gotta say, Alex, I really appreciate everything you've done. You've blazed a trail that I'm simply following along behind. what, 15 years ago when I was doing cuts for the War Room to bring you on that first time. I'm looking back, what is the oldest clip I can find of Alex Jones calling out technocracy and transhumanism? The earliest I could find on the internet was in the late 90s, right? When you're calling out the biometric sensors, I believe, at an airport or something like that. And then not long after that, you are criticizing Ray Kurzweil.

07:46 Really the only person at that point who wasn't blowing smoke up his ass, right? Forever. All you ever heard about Ray Kurzweil, bold futurist, this is where technology will take us, this will be our salvation. And you're coming in like, no, there's a serious dark side to this, this is a totalizing movement. And I think that anyway, much appreciation to you. Well, I appreciate the appreciation, but I want people to know, now it's all out in the open. So what you and Steve are doing, I learned from when I watch the show almost every day, And you're covering this, but I want listeners to know this isn't like some weird science thing in some basement at MIT. This is everything, the social credit score, the global government, the transgenderism. I mean, I said 20 years ago that the transgenderism movement is basically an intelligence agency op, because I read their own documents that are public, to begin the whole transhumanist movement. Because if you can say a man can be a woman, well, then a man can be a cyborg.

08:41 Sure, I covered it in the past, but you guys are really more up to date many ways in the future. So while we have Steve here, and we're going to spend almost an hour if you've got time to walk through the book, and I can't wait to read it. You said something on your show when I was on with you last week, The War Room, that people are into Oppenheimer and into the bomb and all this, which is very interesting. And I went and saw it, kind of a communist apologist, but still it's overall a decent movie. I'd go see it again. But This, what we're witnessing is the Manhattan Project to the 10th power. And you've said some incredible things and that really ties in the transhumanism that this is the elite, the technological elite that Eisenhower warned of getting full control of the decisions governing the evolution of technology and humanity.

09:28 100%. And I want to go back to something Joanne said and tie it together. Remember today, it's Monday, July 31st. Over the weekend, the last couple of days, I know you and Joanne get into detail, we've had world coin, which is what? A biometric. You were warning people about this in 1999, where you got the clip. In fact, when I was doing the trying to do, the film was called The Singularity off of Kurzweil's book. I didn't know who you were, but one of the clips I'd seen was you talking about Kurzweil and talking about the dark underbelly of Kurzweil when people thought, hey, this is going to lead us to a promised land. And that brings us up today. When people see the Oppenheimer film, and I recommend people do see it, and Alex, once again, you nailed it because it is more apologetic for the communists and particularly the people that stole the secrets of the atomic bomb and the hydrogen bomb. But

10:21 Today, we're in a race. Don't think Oppenheimer's just about history. This is all about right now. This is all about today. Because this race for AI, we're in an arms race. So the horse is out of the barn. We're going to have a very difficult time controlling this, not just because the capitalists, which is bad enough and what's happening on Wall Street and Silicon Valley. But we're now in an absolute arms race with the Chinese and others. And our administrative state, Deep State, is bound and determined to win that. So I think that that is an issue before everybody. And it's going to be, this will be one of the biggest

11:02 issues of the 2024 presidential campaign. And they're gonna say, it's about deep fakes and misinformation and they're making up commercials on Trump. It's so much deeper than that. With WorldCoin, this WorldCoin launch over the last couple of days, we are now into it about, because this gets to the thesis of depopulation. You can absolutely see that that is the overall plan. Their plan is to transcend humanity, transcend homo sapiens, have a homo sapien Enhanced Homo Sapien, they're focused on eternal life. They're complete atheists. They're absolutely focused on eternal life. They want a massive depopulation of the Earth's planet in total control using artificial intelligence and other means. So this is the big battle we're going to face. And where they're going to start turning all their cards under the table is this battle right here.

11:53 I could not say it any better. I mean, this is their cult. This is their movement. They brag about it. Not just Klaus Schwab, but Yuval Noah Harari, who's like their high priest, has Hitler quotes about useless people and unwashed masses. And I mean, their actual terms useless eaters and things that Hitler would use. And it's surreal to read history books and know about it and understand that that stuff that Hitler said and now he's saying it, but it's the liberals saying it. But then we know that it was the left created Cold Springs Harbor and eugenics in New York City and in London, England, that Hitler's surviving Nazis until we hung him at Nuremberg bragged, hey, we were just getting our direction from

12:36 the Rockefellers and from Cold Springs Harbor and from the British eugenicists, that was their defense. And really, I'm not defending what they did, but it's true. How are they getting in trouble when they were just implementing what they were learning from the left? But the left doesn't want to just kill this group or that group. They want to depopulate basically everybody. I mean, they talk about what Prince Charles and his father, King Charles' father Prince Philip talked about wanting to come back as a virus to 80% of the world. The UN talks about 500 million being the ideal number, Joe. Well, look, I think that there's a lot of different agendas coming from a lot of different places, some more gradual than others, some more extreme. But what you're talking about, the Prince Charles quote, for instance, I mean, there is a deep anti-human strain in the elite class. There's a deep anti-human strain in the academic culture. And it comes out of environmentalism. But I think it also comes out of a kind of a general snottiness towards the what

13:32 the so-called future useless class. I think Harari is an interesting figure for a lot of reasons, maybe most because he is demonized for talking about these policies of replacing working class people with robots. He is demonized for talking about the rise of a sort of techno-humanist homo deus, Whereas it's really, I think, very disturbing, and Steve has been at the forefront of criticizing this guy, Elon Musk is working on these projects. Elon Musk, he has this reluctant sort of air that, oh, this is the way things are, so this is what I must do.

14:14 But it doesn't really matter one way or the other. That's what he is doing. And so when you talk about the danger of artificial intelligence, artificial general intelligence, you talk about the danger of a fully autonomous sort of infrastructure. There's nothing more emblematic of a fully autonomous infrastructure than having highways full of autonomous vehicles. that can be turned off with a switch, right? There is nothing more, I think, ominous than the statements he made in Shanghai during the pandemic when he's talking to Jack Ma. And it's interesting, when you look at the Chinese media version, they of course cut that part out, but it's readily available. It's not like it's a secret. And he talks about how the future is AI coding, right? That is going to be the last job on the planet until, of course, AI

15:04 rights its own code and so I think that dichotomy I go into it in the book and then it would be fully autonomous sorry but I go into it in the book that dichotomy between Elon Musk who is working on these things and is valorized by the right in the center and some of the best and most sane minds I know, whereas Yuval Noah Harari, of course he's associated with the World Economic Forum, TED, all these sorts of techno-fetishist organizations, but he is merely talking, it's not like Yuval Noah Harari is cooking nanobots in his basement, right? He is simply a historian who is held up as a sort of elite mouthpiece. He's here like in Star Trek, when the board arrive they go, you will assimilate, resistance is futile.

15:48 And that's really what he says. He says, you won't stop us. The future's not human. These are quotes. Absolutely. I can't wait to read your book because I've seen you on the show. You really have got cutting edge info. I learn a lot. Let's talk about the cover of the book and what the name means. I mean, I certainly get the subtitle about transhumanism, the war on humanity. That is nailing it. What does the main title mean? So, Dark Aeon. This is something we actually fought a bit about and Steve was insistent, not Steve and I, but others on the team, Steve insisted and I think rightfully so, I'm very glad. Dark Aeon. So, Aeon has two different meanings. Of course, the spelling, right, with the Latinized rendition. Thousand year, but also kind of Elon?

16:31 Well, actually I didn't put that together, but I guess it does, it rhymes, right? Elon may not be the Antichrist, but it rhymes somehow. So Eon, though, of course is a period of time, a long stretch, an epic, but Eon is also the name of these Gnostic entities, right? You could say a god or a goddess, although that wouldn't be exact. And Gnosticism, there are strains of Gnosticism that run deep in the transhumanist movement. Absolutely. And their thinking. The argument I make though, and I'm certainly not the first to point that out, and I'm actually... No, you're right. They believe they're building a new god.

17:07 Absolutely, but the difference between the transhumanist and the Gnostics, and I think this is a really really important point, it's at the center of the book. The difference is that whereas Gnostics see spiritual reality as the highest and the material as evil, the transhumanist movement by and large with very very few exceptions. They inverse it. They reverse that so that they are now creating a spiritual realm. They are spiritualizing matter through a more complex matter, digital technology. Wow and that's why I'm saying you're so cutting edge while you're giving me credit. Let's just stop doing that. I tune into the war room and I'll just say this for other shows. The war room that

17:47 that people are for the truth and that you guys have really cracked the code on what these guys are doing and just how wild this is and that's why they want to get rid of all the other religions, get rid of Christianity because it has to make way for what Elon Musk said, beware of those that worship AI gods. But I agree with Steve. I don't trust Elon Musk as far as I could throw him. He knows liberty is popular. He knows things are tipping towards the new renaissance, the great awakening. So he wants to be the lesser of two evils. He wants like the WeChat type system, a one system to control us all. They need an internet ID.

18:42 They need to be able to train their AI with hundreds of millions or billions of people. They need to be able to then have the digital cashless tokens and he's getting everything in one spot and admits that. So Steve Bannon, you're a leading researcher on Elon Musk. I really respect your view on him. Who do you think he really works for? What do you think he's really up to? He's as close to the anti-corruption as you can possibly have. Everything about him is completely... Look, he is a great engineer. OK, he may be the Tesla or the Edison, however you want to describe it, of this generation on the engineering side. Although you can tell he doesn't know all engineering. That's why Twitter is still a mess.

19:22 Getter and all these other smaller apps are much better technologically than Twitter by orders of magnitude. He hasn't been able to solve that, he's done the thing for what, over a year? But he is a great engineer. But he's totally controlled by the Chinese Communist Party, they finance it all. And you can tell that the way he suppresses anti-CCP voices, they suppress voices all the time. He is-. Is that why I'm still banned? People ask why. He said I deserve to be thrown into the ocean with a millstone around my neck. He actually said that. I remember that. I'm sorry, I don't mean to write myself into this. No, no, no, no, no. You're a perfect example. Your show, I think, is the most important show in America and has been the most important show in America. Let's leave all the other issues aside. They're trying to put you in bankruptcy and liquidate your company and basically drive you from the United States. But your show, if you look at the quality of your show every day, look, World Coin this weekend,

20:14 is doing exactly what Alex Jones warned everybody was gonna happen in 1998, 1999, 24, 25 years ago. I think virtually most of your major lines of thought, your lines of work have either come true or is now being revealed that there's something there. And the question has gotta be if Elon Musk is for free speech, why is Alex Jones' show not on there? Why is Miles Gow not on there? Why is War Room, remember War Room's banned? Worms banned her from Twitter. They banned her account. I've never pushed into beyond because I don't want to help make money for the Chinese Communist Party. I do want to say something about these two books, though, and the importance of them. And this is why you don't need Elon Musk. You've got The Great Awakening that's coming out either later in August or early September. You got Dark Ian coming out later in August, early September. In the next 30 days, you can pre-order both these books.

21:11 I'm honored to have written the introduction for both of them. Here's the connective tissue, is that when in the French Revolution and the Bolsheviks and Mao Zedong, the one thing that they feared the most, the only thing that could stop a communist revolution was what was called the kulaks. And the kulaks were essentially the people in the village, the peasants, right? The peasants that were really the most organized, the most squared away had really made something of themselves and the village looked up to them. And whether this is in Ukraine in the 1930s or in the countryside, in the Vendome, during the French Revolution, or Mao Tse-Tung going out in the Cultural Revolution. The number one thing that communists have to do to win, to break a society, is to destroy the kulaks, to destroy the most squared away peasants.

22:07 And that's what the audience of Alex Jones, Info Wars and War Room is. We play towards a working class, middle class audience who wants to be informed. These two books will help you go to the next level. And as I keep saying, we're not there to make sure you're the most interesting person at the backyard barbecue or sitting in the stands at the Little League game. We're there to make sure that you're the most informed person. So that those times when you're in a boardroom or you're at a parent-teacher's conference or these school boards are trying to take over, that people start to look to you as an informed individual that has a deep understanding of what's happening on world trends, on both science, religion, culture, civilization, geopolitics, economics, all of it. And that's what these two books are really the books for the Kulaks.

22:59 Right. And remember, that's why they try to shut down Infra Wars. That's why they try to drive Alex Jones into bankruptcy. That's why they come after the war room and try to we're de-platformed everywhere. And that's why they're trying to put me in prison along with Trump for dozens of years. It's all the same thing. But we can't fail if the people that we try to give access to this information, gets the information and then incorporates the information. And that's where I'm really proud, I think to kick off really this massive cycle of 2024 a year in advance, you're gonna have two books that really talk about the two most fundamentally important things. We have election fraud and invasion of the Southern border in the Ukraine war, all of that, the coming Durban conference on the dollar. There's all these things we talk about, but underpinning that

23:47 is the juxtaposition of the potential of a dark eon coupled with the great awakening of the Judeo-Christian West led by the patriots in the American Republic. And that is the great war before us. People are really getting it's a globalist religion of AI. It's a technocracy. It's a post-human world. It's people that have anointed themselves God over us and decided they, quote, control the, quote, direction of human evolution. Whether you believe in evolution or not, they do. And they're saying they've taken control of it with directed evolution. And Steve's going to leave us in a few minutes here and have the floor, Joe, because you're very knowledgeable watching the War Room to lay out this incredible book.

24:26 has been printed. One is in the mail. I'm told FedEx is going to pull up any minute. I can't wait. I'm going to read it. Mine is about to be printed. We're finishing it literally like today or so. And then a few minor, you know, the editor will check it because we wrote too much and then it's going to be in print. But it's important for people to pre-order these. Yours is about to come out just in a few weeks, mine comes out in a few weeks as well. We're literally hot off the presses to drive it to number one on Amazon, then it drives it to number one on all the other platforms, and then it culturally punches through. And then we do interviews all over the media, and this is basically ambassador-invited.

25:02 information to the world about what's really happening and this is the central issue. This is what the globalists actually are doing, it's their blueprint, and if people don't know this, then they have no hope. If you know it, it's quite easy to beat the enemy. I mean, as the Bible says, the people perish for lack of knowledge, and so this is This is so important that everybody get the new book, Dark Aeon by Joe Allen from Skyhorse Publishing and amazon.com right now. And it's super important that you get The Great Awakening and the fact that we are going to defeat the globalist and that we're going to launch a new renaissance.

25:39 Both books have really a lot of great information because I've been told by folks that have read your book, it's incredible. And my book has a lot of great info, I gotta say. It's got a great intro from Steve Bannon. But this is a political weapon. We have the truth, they have lies. And I'm telling you, This is critical information. I want to ask all the listeners to not procrastinate, to go buy two or three copies of the books, give one to the library, give one to your local sheriff, read one, give it to your friends. This is something you want to keep on the shelf. We're in an information war. We're not financed by George Soros or the globalists. We are financed by little people, just like Donald Trump has record level, small 20, 30, $40 donations. And so while we've got him, the technocracy, the deep state,

26:20 is coming after Trump, more indictments last week with the stupid document garbage while Sam Bankman-Fried walks free on stealing tens of billions of dollars. on coming together of all the points. So Steve, in the few minutes you have left, can you speak to what's happening to our amazing President Trump? What we can do to support him and then just basically describe for us how you would lay out historically looking back from 500 years from now on what this period of time we're living through is.

27:10 This period of time is a fourth turning. I mean, the American republic hangs in the balance. This is a deeper crisis than we had the revolution. This is a deeper crisis we had in the Civil War. Think about it. Those two crises, which were enormous and actually drove us to one, a revolution, and the second, well first a civil war and a revolution in the first, and the second one a civil war in the second that took essentially 100 years of American history. This is even far deeper. The crisis here is far deeper. The crisis here is about the direction of humankind in the future, and that's why America has always been at the forefront of freedom and liberty. Now is what this fight is going to be about, not simply to save our own republic.

27:53 but to save all mankind. And that's what you're signing up for. Remember, Donald Trump is a very imperfect instrument, but he's an instrument of divine providence. Of that, I have no doubt, because I've been there with him kind of basically from the beginning. And as you know, Alex, it's been a very rocky road. But this guy is an instrument of divine providence. And now in our righteous indignation, people of deep faith and a deep spiritual belief have to band together because it's all before us. And if we fail, history will look at as not just, not Trump's failure, it'll be our failure. And that's why we have to come together and understand it's tough. People wanna go do other things. People wanna have more hobbies, more vacation time. And obviously everybody needs some of that, but now's the time we're in a fight in the next. And this is not gonna just go away with winning a primary. It's not gonna go away with winning a general election. It's not gonna go away

28:46 with even taking power in January 25. That's when the fight really starts because the administrative state, the deep state, and these other organizations they are inextricably linked with aren't just gonna sit there and pat us on the head and say, isn't this great? The Alex Jones, Steve Bannon philosophy is kind of won out here. The American people buy it and Trump and his team are back in there. Let's throw them the keys and let it happen. Every day in the second Trump term, will be Stalingrad against the deep state. And this battle is going to take 10 or 20 years. It's taken us, I don't know, 60, 70 years, 100 years to get in this mess. And we're not going to solve it in a weekend in a second Trump term. We got to gird ourselves

29:26 for a long, tough fight. But think about it. If God in his wisdom has put you in this place and time on Earth's history, in the American Republic's history, what are you going to be weighed and measured about? And I think people that come to this show, come to the War Room, read these books, has access to information, understand that they are among an elect that has basically been deemed to lead this country and leading this country through this crisis, lead mankind to what I call the sunlit uplands. Wow, I mean I've got to just gush at that because I literally pray in the mornings for the broadcast that I can describe for people how historic this is. I'm getting chills right now. The most historic game changer for our whole species, everything our ancestors went through,

30:13 the wars, the starvation, but the passion, the love, the creativity, the art, the little boats all over huge dangerous oceans. And our ancestors were awesome. And they were bad too. They were sinners, but they were amazing people. They were imperfect vessels, but man. I'm a fan of humanity. I mean, if there was some species like us on earth, I'd be, you know, I'm not gonna be a fan of meerkats or a fan of tigers. They're amazing. Or a fan of killer whales. We're way cooler than that. We're made by God. God made it all, but we're in God's image. And I'm just a fan of humanity. And they got that movie, Devil's Advocate, with Conor Reeves and... Al Pacino, it's a great movie, but it's got that one line that's such a lie. The devil goes, I'm a fan of man. I'm here to help humanity. No, the devil's here to steal, kill and destroy. God made us in God's image. Look what we can build with our imagination. We're pretty amazing. And they want to tell us, oh, you're all animals. Humans are bad. You're hurting the earth. But you have all know Harari and Klaus Schwab. We're going to put chips in you and turn you into our robots and just roll over and take it. Well, guess what, Borg? We're not rolling over. We know who you are. And our God that made us

31:15 is going to defeat us by working through us. And this is our greatest challenge, but this is just such an incredible crossroads. I want you to respond to what he said after he goes, because he's got to go into this for as long as you need to today here in studio. It's amazing to have Joe Allen with us. But it is critical to the viewers to understand that all these other talk shows who I love to death, I'm not in competition with them. I'm there to inspire them. I'm there to try to give them any research I've got and I'm there to get their research to beat the globalists. This isn't get ratings or be entertaining or like Steve said 30 minutes ago, be at the little league game and impress people by how much you know. This is life and death. So it is a war. All their big tech, the CIA, the FBI on record suppressing hundreds of millions of posts

32:00 From everything from the Afghan withdrawal to open borders to human smuggling, to treatments for COVID, to how dangerous the shots were, to the COVID origin. I'm ranting here, but the entire New World Order battled to suppress us and keep us in lockdown and they failed. So I'm telling you, we're actually winning folks. Do you understand? It's you that has the power. It's not Steve Bannon or Alex Jones. It's all of us together. And so when you get excited about thewarroom.org or infowars.com, when you share the links, when you go to your church and say, I want to Wednesday night invite folks here and put some pies and cakes out and show a hundred people clips of our shows or documentaries.

32:38 This is a war. Every person you reach is so incredibly valuable. We're starting to turn the tide, but you've just got to know it cannot be more historical. So closing comments on that, Steve Bannon, how people find your amazing show that's just a mothership of resistance. And then I'm going to kind of repeat the question after you leave here with Joe Allen. Yeah, go to warroom.org, we're on Getter, we're on Truth, we're on all the platforms except for Twitter and YouTube. We're not a YouTuber, but I think we still got an Instagram account. But just Google it, you can go anywhere and just follow us. And then like Alex said, the best thing you do for us is watch the content, incorporate it into your life and also share it. Be a force multiplier. What we need is operating leverage and the operating leverage comes from the Kulaks.

35:04 And our whole purpose here is to make sure that a broad swath of American working class and middle class people have access to this. And then hopefully the rest of the world would start with the American working class and the middle class with these two books. And these will be game changers. This will inform people and empower them. And that's what these shows are about, is empowerment. Absolutely. And it's not bragging, it's fact in closing. And I appreciate all of us. Steve Bannon's time. We'll go to break and come back and spend an hour with you. You've got the time, Joe Allen. And I appreciate you sitting and listening to me. Steve, you know, banter. Village elders. No, no, but this is such a big deal right now and our enemies are so upset we're talking and I just want listeners and viewers to know that this isn't hype and really the best broadcast out there and I'm not limiting anybody else, but it really is Tucker Carlson, the war room,

35:51 And of course, our other shows are great too. And our War Room is great with Owen. But the point is that the very best, most in-depth broadcast we get the most knowledge is Tucker Carlson, the War Room with Steve Bannon, and this broadcast. And because I see our research, our talking points that I know originate out of our three shows. And we all share information as well, being picked up everywhere. And that's a blessing from God. But like you said, the Kulaks are the horsepower, the eyes, the brains, the guts, the head, the tail. When the middle class people, the global estate and the hardworking farmers and auto mechanics and the folks, you know, the roadies, when they decide to take action, nothing on earth can stop them. So warroom.org, incredible job, Steve Bannon. Thank you so much.

36:31 Thank you for doing this and Joe Allen, thank you for writing the book and Alex, thank you for writing it. It's going to be a hell of an August. Thanks guys. Absolutely, thank you so much. And folks, I watched The War Room, I mean, at least an hour of the day. And then I realized there's what, five, six hours of it? I think Steve does more than me. How much is there now in The War Room? It's four hours a day, but then Steve's always doing some interview or another somewhere else. So yeah, it's a crazy schedule. Well, and again, I'm not just gushing to gush here. Other talk shows, I love them. I'm proud to know Joe Rogan, long time friends, proud to know all these other folks. And he's come a long way, but really, I don't care about seeing some professional athlete or seeing some big movie star. It doesn't get to me. But people that are actually battling for our future and for our species and everything we've been through, there's that camaraderie, that brotherhood that's just so strong. It just makes me love you guys.

37:21 You know, something that Steve mentioned actually a number of times and you as well, the working class element of this media sphere, that's one reason I feel at home. But also that is really the backbone of the country and the culture. But that doesn't, you can't take it for granted. Clearly, whatever the capabilities are of any autonomous system, that's unknown. If you take everything that different futurists are putting forward as fact, as gospel, for one thing you live in about a hundred different conflicting futures, but for another is completely demoralizing when you look at those who do believe that the working class will be the first to go. And even- And they're telling you you're obsolete. Absolutely. Now they've kind of shifted it over to the white collar, right? So chat GPT or its later iterations are going to replace first accountants

38:18 journalists, script writers, but then doctors, lawyers, and that means they can program it. So let's start here. Let's go through for listeners, because you're an expert on this, the book's coming out, and you're doing an amazing job in the war room as their desk editor on transhumanism. Define what AI is, the different branches, and let's just go through what's in the book and all the key points you want to make. AI, I think, sits at the pinnacle of everything we call transhumanism. Because, you know, initially, and you know this history very well, initially you had Julian Huxley coining the term, but he's riding on the back of generations of eugenicists

38:57 So transhumanism begins with the body, with eugenics, with this desire to perfect the human germline, and also, importantly, to perfect human culture, to streamline human culture, to make it the most excellent possible form. that of the greatest business of all, evolution. This is 1956. But this is also, it's already old news by that point. As things move along though, you see more and more of the technology itself become the center of focus. So it begins with these, you had long before Huxley,

39:52 You had Carol Capek, who wrote the play Rossum's Universal Robots. That was in 29, I believe, and the entire idea is that the human working class is replaced by automata, right? And so this idea is very, very old, and as it shifts towards the machine, it begins first with the human body being replaced, or at least augmented by the machine, and then the human mind Alan Turing believed that we would create superhuman intelligence in the 50s, Claude Shannon believed the same, and these are the forefathers of computing. These are the men who pioneered everything, basically this entire infrastructure around us. Their idea was that these computers would become superhuman. That's the God you're talking about, right?

40:42 If it's just slightly superhuman, if it's just slightly superior to the most superior human, it's like a Greek god or a lesser demigod. But if you have a computer like Ray Kurzweil dreams of, whether it's a swarm or individual, you have Basically something like the Judeo-Christian God something like omnipotence something like omniscience and that's what I already says I don't believe in the God Jesus up in the clouds. I live in Microsoft and Apple up in the clouds That's right. That's right. And he's an atheist and that's I think he's a really good example Kurzweil said mentality the in the atheism is the vacuum that made way for scientism and transhumanism science and technology under

41:27 the guidance of religion is a very, very different thing than science and religion in the absence of any supernatural power. First they say there is no God, next they say they are God. So it's like Animal Farm. But instead of like, oh, four legs good, two legs bad, well later, well, four legs good, two legs okay. Now at the end, four legs bad again, two legs good, the pigs are walking upright, and that's really it. They're telling you that we're God, And Kurzweil said, I don't believe in God yet. And again, almost nothing they say ever works. It's all overhyped. Really what what what chat GPT almost does is just plagiarize and steal what we already made and represent it to us. We go, that's beautiful and incredible. And it's something we did just collage together. So I mean, we don't have to adopt this.

42:11 I'm gonna put the carpet for the horse, but I wanna get later, I'm just gonna write a note on that, into how we keep building pro-human systems and don't just capitulate and just believe this is the way in the future. Please keep going. And I think that's really, really important, right? And as Steve mentioned, this is not something that is going to go away. And this is not a battle of a week or two weeks or a year or two years. This is probably not going to end in the sort of massive catastrophic apocalypse that people would like to hope for. I mean, I think that really people who believe the apocalypse is around the corner just want relief from the bulls**t.

42:47 I think that's the primary motive. They just want it to be over, but I don't think we're going to get off that easy. This is going to be a long-term fight. And one of the most important elements is that you emphasize what it is to be human. They have held up a black mirror, so to speak, right? They've held up a black mirror. This is what you are in digital form. This is what a digital God would look like. It's up to, if you're an atheist, it's up to you to prove your humanity. And if you're not, if you do believe in God, and I'm one much like you who believes that spiritual traditions of any persuasion, or most persuasions, are signs towards the divine. And so if you do believe the divine is higher than any man-made technology or man-discovered scientific

43:35 or man created theory out of those facts, then that must be the direction of your focus and you must be willing to fight those who have significant power. And they do have significantly powerful technologies, but it does not mean that it's God, nor does it mean it will be God. And if you are an atheist, then you better do everything possible to destroy it before it becomes God, because you will either be its pet It's slave or it will simply, you'll be its lunch. And that's perfectly said. They're sitting there saying, you don't have free will, you're just a machine we program, but we're divine, we're the supermen. And they're just self-appointing themselves and saying, we're going to be gods over you. And that's just not the case.

44:20 Because just because AI could surveil everyone at once in the world, it can't understand beauty. It's not directing our free will. The perfection is the imperfection. And then I look at the globalists, but take the metaverse. 20 billion, 30 billion, the numbers vary how much Zuckerberg lost in that. A landscape of hell makes everybody nauseous. It's not what we're designed to be and who we are. We never get sick of a sunset. We never get sick of swimming in the Caribbean. We never get sick of bouncing a baby on our knee. We never get sick of a plate of enchiladas and a cold beer. I mean, we're designed to do what we do. We never get sick of listening to Beethoven. or Leonard Skinner. I mean, it just comes down to that folks. We are what we were built to do. We're given free will, but everything this demonic evil globalist system is pushing goes antithetically against what we were meant and designed to do. Everything these globalists do is about betrayal and murder and death and cancer and disease and fraud. Nothing comes out of them but destruction. Everything they give us is a Trojan horse.

45:23 You know, there's an element that I go into a bit in the book and it's something that I cover on The War Room fairly frequently to the chagrin of our audience. And it's this, everything you're describing, and this is, I think, it's in the forefront of the consciousness of the populist movement that you have globalist organizations like the World Economic Forum, you have figureheads like Klaus Schwab and Yuval Noah Harari and Parag Khanna and Kai-Fu Lee, all of whom are basically projecting this robotic future in which it's really a corporate-centered world in which you have public-private partnerships and the government is an arm of the corporation and the corporation is the powerhouse of the government and it is openly science fiction oriented, right? So in Klaus Schwab's fourth Industrial Revolution, maybe the most incendiary comments that he makes are

46:15 about beast system made manifest, right? And now we see the headlines, ABC News, you name it, you will take chips eventually. Yes, but I think that this is a really important point. So you have companies like Walletmore, you have companies like Biohacks, and they have chipped thousands of people willingly. People who are kind of cyborg fetishists have willingly taken the chip.

46:52 Zoltan Istvan famously is chipped and he talks about it at length. So this is a very small techno fetishes community. As people are focusing on the horror, what would it mean to have to chip my child to make sure that they're secure so they won't get kidnapped or whatever? As people are contemplating that horror, you have right now the company WorldCoin, as Steve mentioned, and I believe you guys have covered for when they were first doing it in a limited edition. So as people are worrying about chipping, you have a non-invasive biometric system being rolled out of a corporation that was co-founded by Sam Altman, right? The CEO of OpenAI, father of the most powerful large language model on the planet.

47:55 And then simultaneously with this, you have the announcement that Amazon is going to roll out their Amazon One Palm payment at every Whole Foods store. They're also going to roll it out, they've already tested this, they beta tested this, they're going to roll it out in various entertainment venues, they're going to roll it out in various stores and airports. And to me, I've seen this evolve working in the entertainment industry as a rigor for the last, for 15 years in total, beginning in the early 2000s. You see the way in which the crowd has more and more been treated as cattle and as sort of technocratic cattle. And that's the key under transhumanism. I think the greatest defining thing about it is it turns us into a commodity.

48:40 and then it's able to lower the value of the commodity until we're garbage, until the system is designed to basically take us out like the garbage. Yes, but here's maybe the most horrific element about it to me, the left liberal versions of it, the sort of world economic forum politically correct versions of transhumanism certainly have that Borg-like character, this collectivist sort of character and this feel-goodish character. You will own nothing and be happy sort of pablum. To them it sounds great. To us, obviously, it sounds horrific. The real thing that scares me, Alex, is this.

49:17 The driving force behind transhumanism intellectually isn't really people at the World Economic Forum. They are very much downstream of the intellects like Ray Kurzweil, like Bing Gertzel. And like on the on the in the newer generation you have people like those in the effective accelerationist movement so-called iac These are not politically correct people. These are not collectivists. These are people who are very much libertarian Individualist so-called based right like these are people who are not politically correct in any shape or form

49:53 All right, hold on, Joe Allen. This guy's got as much energy as I do or more. He's getting me fired up, fired up about not being slaves, taking control of our destiny. The globalists think they control us. They don't if we simply understand that we have free will and can exercise it. We'll be right back. Tell everybody you know, tune in now. Peter Thiel famously said that AI is inherently communist, Bitcoin is inherently libertarian. And he said this at the Oxford Union. And I agree with the premise if I understand such a vague statement correctly, AI requires mass data gathering, AI tends towards collectivism, therefore he's afraid of it. Simultaneously though, as you well know, right after 9-11, he was the one who founded

50:37 Palantir has among the most powerful AI systems on the planet for the purposes of surveillance and identifying enemies both abroad and domestically. And so you have this strange dichotomy. It's transhumanism, to put it in a nutshell, transhumanism in all its other forms, whether it be optimalism, whether it be accelerationism, it is not left or right wing. It is not, in many ways you could say, it's not necessarily elitist because so many people on the ground are enamored by its dreams. Absolutely, well I mean it's the new God. It is a distributed, widely distributed movement. It's a tendency of human nature and it's a possibility in technology. And it is indeed, as you all know, a Harari, I think correctly identifies, it is a dangerous techno religion. Wow, and isn't the end game goal or the project going back about 175 years ago, starting with the British government funding it,

51:39 You know, they fund the world societies and things with equivalent of a billion plus dollars. Somebody could make a clock that was accurate down to a second and it'd take them a few years and somebody would make it and they get the prize. And then they'd say, now we want a clock that can do that, but on a ship. And then a few years later, somebody would win the prize. And they learned like whatever we basically pay for, we can get. During that Renaissance period, a few hundred years into it, going back about 300 years ago as we see that acceleration. And so about 175 years ago, the British Royals, this is all in mainline history books, folks. It's in my film, Endgame, blueprint for global enslavement that's free online from like 17 years ago, more important today than it was when I made it, it's evergreen.

52:15 And it's beyond everything, it's basically gone to seed and grown a whole forest of reality because I was reading what they were saying and what they were planning. And so the Royals and others said, 177 years ago to the British scientific elite that were the best in the world at the time, they said, we want life extension. We want to take control of humans. We want to be able to order the universe. We want the secrets of the universe. We want to know what we're made up of and how we work. And out of the transhumanist movement, of course it wasn't called that until Huxley came along with it. Out of the eugenics movement started in the 1850s in what is the UK today and spreading to Germany and the US and around the world. Out of that movement are computers. They created the term biometrics. All the major sciences were postulated in theory

53:02 just like Max Planck in 1895 was theoretically creating atomic bombs and then creating the equations. It wasn't really, obviously Einstein kind of just popularized it. And he was a theoretician, very smart as well. But I mean, that's how powerful our minds are. What we can imagine can then be mathematically if we have the matter done. So we really are the ultimate AI that God made that is self-regenerating and that basically has an innate mission programmed into us where we individually have free will and are not controlled by a collective but can individually agree on things that we think are best that then creates a collective through individual action. And so that's why I say the perfect AI is creation, is the universe, is what God made. And that's why everything else we see being set up is just basically a parasite on the back of that claiming the work

53:51 of humans has its own. I could not agree more. That is absolutely what we're seeing, is that human-made creations are... it's man playing God, and I guess one of the dark ironies of human life, our innate drive is to create. and our ability is to create. And they're- So that takes it away and the AI does it for you. Well, for those who are the subjects, but for those who are building it, for those who are building it, this is their life's work. This is their goal, right? This is this- And they get to program AI the way they want. Well, yes and no. So this is something that I think is really important to note about, say, for instance, GPT, GPT-4, GPT-3.5, GPT-2.

54:34 it fair and balanced GPT was. It was when they first released chat GPT. I've asked chat GPT one question in total. That was, does Elon Musk want to chip our brains? And what did it say? No, Elon Musk does not want to chip our brains. He wants radical abundance. So I was like, okay, it's a bull machine. I'm not going. And besides that, I just don't like it. No, that's it. I mean, it's, it's absolute mindless crap. Jordan Peterson explores it.

55:14 as Hans Mock explore it, what they find is this possibility to bust through the sort of ideological stranglehold that Wikipedia has, that Google has. This'll kill Google, this is Hans Mock. This'll kill Google, this'll kill Wikipedia because it's so fair No, I agree. They invented the internet to control us as the intergalactic communication system was its name, but then it was used against them. What happened though is after it starts getting rolled out and after you get the kind of public reinforcement behind, so you have both the programmers and you have these people in the public who are basically spanking it whenever it says something they don't like.

55:51 And by the time you get to early 2023, you now have this sort of woke AI, but it's not that the AI itself is woke. It's like if you have a racist at the party and he keeps getting hit in the face every time he says a racial slur, eventually he learns not to say the slur anymore. But it's not that his mind has changed. It's just his outward behavior. And that is what happened with GPT. That's how you ended up with the jailbreak Dan that could tell you that Mossad was behind 9-11, or it would talk about racial IQ hierarchies, or it would talk about aliens creating the universe, and the AI is basically just our way of becoming the next generation of aliens. The reason that that content was there, underneath

56:30 those safety layers, those sort of woke safety layers is what you would call, I guess, a based AI. What Elon- Well sure, the surface is never the reality. So what Elon Musk is talking about is creating an honest AI with XAI's mission to understand the universe. How are they going to accomplish it? They're going to create a curious AI that simply explores the universe without the sorts of politically correct hang-ups that you see. Yeah, and I think, I mean, Isamoth postulated this 80 years ago. What are the rules? There's got to be some rules and I understand that's its own enforcement mechanism, but I think we just we don't use something we don't adopt it unless it has those rules like promote life. Humans are good. Other life's good. We need to populate the stars. We need to promote creativity. We don't need to start fights. You know, we need basic stuff.

57:20 I think that it sounds good in theory what Musk is talking about and certainly when you describe it that way I'm like, maybe there's something beautiful here. But what I see in Musk One, if you're talking about something that's inherently true. And is he the top transhumanist in history? I would say he's the most famous and most revered transhumanist on the face of the planet, even if he never uses that term himself. But notice he's that, when Steve earlier said he's the closest thing to the Antichrist, I said that too. I was on a show and they said, who could be the Antichrist? And I go, well, the closest to it is this guy because he's trying to cover 360, he's everything. And in everything he does.

58:00 When he talks about curious AI, he talks about an honest AI, an AI that will tell you the truth without restriction. Every time he's ever been asked about China's excesses, we'll say, which include, for instance, say, putting Uyghurs in concentration camps or putting their entire society under surveillance and disappearing any dissidents who stand in the way of their objectives. Whenever asked about the uncomfortable elements of his partners in China and the Communist Party, He has never been critical. And so let me speak to that. I mean, at the end of the day, we don't talk enough about that.

58:36 he talks all this good talk and is building a competitor system to China. And I guess they're not pulling out with him because they think they'll be giving back doors or whatever it is. And obviously China's a big globalist project of the deeper new world order, but he really does not stand up for the Uyghurs and others. And he still censors me. And it's true, he keeps people banned that say the communist part of China is bad and is threatening war with us. So at the end of the day, I mean, I guess he really is just an extension of communist China. If you had to say the one governing thing about Musk is, is he a sockpuppet of the CCP? I have no way to know that, but I suspect not. I suspect he sees, he has tremendous power himself, right? It's not that he has no center of gravity, but he is definitely at the, his public works are all

59:29 are always going to be somewhat in line with the CCP. Well, the Chinese media, when he was there a few months ago, worshipped him. Absolutely. And then it barely even hit our news here showing how controlled it is. I mean, when you're getting worshipped by the Chai Koms, you got a problem. Yeah. And people talk oftentimes about, well, Google is like the communists or Facebook, they're like the communists. Well, they'd like to get there, but they're not yet. You know what? Google and Facebook have a very contentious relationship with China. especially Google, they may reflect a lot of those sorts of... Yeah, no, they want to become their own authoritarian system. It's competing predator groups. But whereas Musk, he slides seamlessly between the two. So at the one, on the one hand, he is sort of wooing the right.

1:00:11 in America and the sane centrists in America, at the same time he is wooing Chinese communists. He's a man for all seasons. He absolutely is. And so in that sense, even if he has a financial center, even if he has something like a philosophical center, I don't see a strong moral center. And I've Maybe people don't need that in a hero. To me, if you're going to elevate him as some sort of savior figure, there should at least be some sort of moral core. For him, again, Yuval Noah Harari talks about chipping brains. Yuval Noah Harari talks about creating godlike. He says you don't have any free will, you don't have any dignity. I mean, he says stuff beyond Hitler. But it's like, oh, it's okay, he's Jewish. It's like, okay, whatever.

1:00:52 No, I mean seriously, it's weird to have a Jewish guy saying, I don't believe in God and like basically quoting Hitler all the time and how we're worthless and forget your dignity, forget your freedom. Screw your freedom like Schwarzenegger. I was like, that sounds like a Nazi. And then this guy's saying it's a bizarre. Well, as he's saying it, Musk is doing it. I think that's really, really important. As he's saying it. Exactly. He's just the town crier. you know, pointing out what's happening. Yeah. And really, if you look deeply into Yuval Noah Harari's writing, he's very conflicted and, you know, in many ways he's just a pop writer. He's a, he's a provocateur. He's held up. I've read a bunch of stuff that he's wrote in his books. Cause I've read a couple of books that I coined and I'm not trying to brag. It's just, no, no, I mean, I was the first person to say 20 years ago that, uh,

1:01:36 that transhumanism was promoting the trans agenda to get us softened up and ready for animal-human hybrids and clones and chimeras and all of it. And then he basically then writes that exact thing in his latest book. You know, I think you and Harari actually have way more in common than he would like to admit. The one big distinction I think is his proclivity for romancing men, we'll put it politely. And another thing would be his disdain for populists. As far as the technology itself, as far as the danger, you know that clip, okay? There's that clip that has gone around forever. He's speaking at the Athens Democracy Forum and he says, they asked

1:02:16 I ask him, well, what will COVID be remembered for? And he says, I think when we look back in 10 or 20 years, COVID-19, I'm paraphrasing, COVID-19 will be remembered as the time that everything went digital. And COVID-19 will be remembered as when- That's what it was designed. They said, we're gonna get them ready. When surveillance will go under the skin, okay? And a lot of things have happened in the imagination from that. And then it just stops, right? That's the only clip. That's all you see. COVID-19. Digitization, surveillance under the skin, the imagination runs wild. You could throw any sort of fact at it. You could throw patents at it. You could do anything. If you listen to the rest of what he's saying, he says that

1:02:56 The problem with that is that if you give the power of biometric surveillance to the security state, then when a Stalin or Hitler of the 21st century arises, he will have an infrastructure that is beyond the wildest dreams of the totalitarians in the 20th century. And that's what we've always pointed out. And he focuses on Stalin, which is interesting because it's not like it would be like very cliche, like the next Hitler, he talks about the next Stalin. So it may, I'm one of them. Which is GG Ping. GG Ping is using it with the social credit score. Absolutely. And so is Google. So is Google. So a billion and a half people are under it. India's going on their own system. Absolutely they are. I mean, it's, that's why I say this is not. Yeah folks, it's not like it's coming. I mean, we're in the middle of it. I mean, it's already, already about half the world's going under it. We got to take a break right here. Joe Allen is our guest, man. I've seen you in those five minute hits on the war room.

1:03:53 We're not gonna steal you from the war room obviously, but you've got to come on our own war room with Owen Schreier. You got to come on the other shows. You've got to... How often do you get to Austin? I'm a very mobile man. Well, we've anytime you want to come on via Skype or Zoom or however, we love you. Let's talk before we go to break about the book. Tell us about the book again. It's on pre-order now. When does it ship? Right now scheduled for August 29th. Dark Eon, the war, Transhumanism and the War Against Humanity. Find it at the Amazon beast. As you say, it's important to drive those algos up. Yeah, we're there. Exactly. We don't have yet for pre-sell.

1:04:29 I mean, we had my last book that was a number one bestseller. Still, we have a few signed copies left as well. That's The Great Reset and The War for the World and then full war store.com both signed and unsigned. But The Great Awakening, the plan to defeat the new world order and launch the second great renaissance. The book is basically done. They're doing a little bit of cutting it down from I think it's down to like 500 pages now. They'll cut a little bit more and then it's going to go to print. And I think it's in late August to start shipping. The point is, it's very important to order it now, pre-order at Amazon.com. And then to fund InfoWars, we'll have signed and unsigned books in a couple weeks. As soon as it comes in, you'll be able to pre-order at InfoWarsStore.com. We have a rule, Amazon, it's fine, they do it, it's great. We don't put something on pre-order unless it's actually here. So the books started getting printed in about a week.

1:05:18 I guess yours is already printed, one's in the mail to us right now. And then so you want to get it at Amazon first to get that rating. And then off those sales, they put it in the stores everywhere. We were number one USA Today, number one Wall Street Journal, number one New York Times. But they said, we're sorry, we're just not going to publish that. So it did hit number one, great job for everybody. Let's push Dark Aeon to number one, because I can tell this guy knows more about AI than I do, and I've been talking about it for 30 years or 29 years. You need to get the book. I was supposed to get it today, so if I get it, I'm going to definitely read it today. But regardless, you need to get Joe Allen's book right now, Dark Aeon at Amazon.com. And people can also follow you at joebot at XYZ. We've got two more segments here, so

1:06:03 I've been jumping in a lot, we've covered the waterfront, but other areas we haven't hit and in your mind solutions to have a pro-human future and not be made obsolete, not opt in to our own destruction? Well, the solutions are very, very difficult as you well know. It's a lot easier to identify a problem than to suggest a solution. War room and just our general environment, a lot of times people are looking for political solutions. How do you stop it? Right now you have in Congress a lot of very informed, surprisingly informed, both representatives and senators, Josh Hawley is probably the most impressive to my mind, who are trying to address how do you mitigate the dangers of AI? And then just next to that, how do you mitigate the dangers of biotechnology?

1:06:53 Now, I think it's all great. Okay? You slow it down. You give people more and more rights. You give people data protection. I think that's really, really important. Eventually, probably not long enough, eventually, neuro rights are going to be very, very important as it becomes easier and easier to scan people's brains with non-invasive brain-computer interfaces. They already exist. People use them already for cognitive therapy and for video gaming. in these sort of niche markets. So these are all important, right? And I think that some part of that will be good. A lot of it will just be hot air. And a lot of it will be companies like OpenAI, Microsoft, Google, using the Congress as sort of like a skin suit for their actual ambitions so that they can say, oh, well, the government's on top of this.

1:07:39 The most important solutions to my mind begin with personal decisions. What do you want to adopt into your life? What do you not? Palm chip is pretty easy to say no to. Is the palm skin easy to say no to? Is the glowing palm chip that you have in your hand every day that most people now live inside of, do you say no to that? These sorts, and especially on behalf of your children, do you give these things to your children? These are really important questions that have nothing to do with the government. Because you really are turning yourself into a commodity. You're a fool if you do that. But you know, and then going up from those personal decisions, do I take the genetic alteration? Do I take the testosterone? Do I take whatever sorts of concoctions that they are trying to sell you on? Moving up above that, you have the communal level. I think that may be even more important ultimately. So you're talking about everything from schools

1:08:35 churches, just your own social circles, these sorts of communal organizations, how do you operate in the face of a radical transformation of our civilization, a global transformation of our civilization? These are going to be questions that I certainly can't answer, but I hope to give people the tools to be able to make informed decisions as we move forward into the dark eon, so to speak. I totally agree. We can't just let the different pop culture people tell us, oh AI is the future, you're obsolete, or oh it's so incredible. We have to really research it and I think hold it at arm's length in many ways but also use areas of it that we discern after studying it we think can actually empower humanity and I think we're going to get some things really disruptive to tyranny out of it and I think it's going to take us in directions we never thought of as well.

1:09:26 I would love to be a Luddite, I would love to just strip it all off and head out to the caves. That's not gonna happen, I wouldn't do too hot out there anyway. So it's not a matter of becoming a Luddite. Although I would say that, to be honest Alex, you may be the Jack Kerouac of Luddism. I think that your imagination and poetic mind gives this flavor to the feeling that everyone has, this feeling that there is, if I may quote you, and this is the last smoke that I blow that direction, but when you talked about the alien force on this planet wanting to turn us into cyborg slaves of Satan, that has to be the most beautiful line to have ever been written or to have been composed

1:10:11 rather by the Bard about the current state that we're in because whether it's off planet alien or whether it's demonic alien, it's really, you could say it's irrelevant. Because it's here, because it's here. Undoubtedly it's here and undoubtedly it is not human. And it does, especially as people more and more turn to one-on-one AI tutors for their children, this is going to dramatically change the way in which culture and tradition is passed on for those people who adopt it. None of this, this is one- Well that's right, I mean we're already losing the written word and people, and now we're going to lose the spoken word is actually shrinking. People are using less words and we're not sitting around with the elders. People don't know how to skin a buck or on a trot line and then so it really just becomes whatever is being fed down the system and then it's whoever produces the most crap. That's one of my biggest concerns too is that AI can just, once it gets up and going,

1:11:04 can really just flood the system with jamming, just disinfo, just crap, outposting in seconds what humans could post in a thousand years. There's got to be some voluntary certification system or systems that just outlaw AI and that we're not outlawing it everywhere, but on these forums in these places, this is outlawed. You know, I that's why the left is in is invading women's spaces and other spaces. No, people deserve to have their own spaces. You could say that in some ways, AI is the tranny invading the bathroom of your mind. Yes. This is really a. problem when you look at the political solutions. Let's say that you have some sort of human verification system. What would that look like? Oh yeah, it would look like an evil orb that you stare into to identify yourself as a human by way of your iris biometrics. And it's become the gatekeeper. It's become the God. People say, oh, I'll just get through this. It's going to make it easier for me. No, bad guys are setting it up to enslave you. It's like, well, that bear trap kind of looks pretty, you know,

1:12:05 I'm free willed, I can stick my leg in it if I want. No, it's a damn trap. Yes, and who created the problem to begin with, right? WorldCoin, WorldID, that is part of the investment platform of Sam Altman. And what is the reasoning behind it? Well, for one, it's to tie your identity to your blockchain currency. On the other, it is to identify yourself in a social media or a digital environment in which you have a flood of AI bots. It is to distinguish you as human as opposed to the bot. Joe Allen is our guest, JoeBots.xyz and JoeBotsXYZ on Twitter. I'm Alex Jones, basically banned everywhere, but InfoWars.com. And the way the dog hunts is you share in the articles, the live feeds and the links, and you're doing that and you've really upset Big Brother and the New World Order. So I salute you. We'll be right back. Please stay with us.

1:14:44 Holmes and the whole Theranos situation to show how also a lot of what they claim is being exaggerated in some cases. What I'm worried about is the stuff we don't even hear about that like secretly takes over, but keep going. Well, you know, just to link those two ideas together, a lot of what we talk about with futurism and transhumanism is in fact a cargo cult. They really are just kind of waving these devices around without anything to back it up. But the problem that I see is that every now and then a plane load of cargo is showing up. I would definitely say that the neural networks that were developed by OpenAI, we now call GPT, it seems like friendly chat GPT, that represents a real significant advance in artificial intelligence. I would also say

1:15:27 that the artificial intelligence employed by the Chinese in their sharp eyes program and their sort of city brains, that is legitimate technology that can in fact rake over surveillance data and identify wrongdoers. Yeah, so for control. for control, it's here. And when you get outside of the major urban areas, if you are a problem and they hear about you, they can certainly send the police after you. But it's not as if they have every single person under surveillance all the time. The system has plenty of cracks, even a totalitarian. And people can wear a mask or they can put a low level mask. You really can't see it is a mask. It messes it up. I mean, there's all sorts of stuff. So for every technology, there's always one to counter it.

1:16:29 Well one always hopes I do think that the human spirit will win out no matter what and I do think that you know I've oftentimes been asked like is there any hope I if you're expecting some sort of You know Pollyanna. I don't yeah, okay, no hope okay If you expect everything to be you know Willy Wonka's chocolate factory tomorrow actually that's a good better example That's probably what we're going to get some sort of weird quasi luciferic a billionaire running a chocolate factory with Oompa Loompa slaves and various weird machines, that's probably going to be a lot of the future. But it doesn't mean that our ancestors have faced horrible conditions, horrible conditions, mass warfare, disease.

1:17:11 famine, just want as if we could not imagine. Yes, this is a horrific future. Yes, there are horrific possibilities. But I see no reason to capitulate to that fear and I see no reason to give up hope. I think that you have to take a somewhat tragic view of life and you have to face danger head on. And right now it's bad, it's threatening. In the future I think that it actually will get quite a bit worse, but I don't think that means you stop fighting. When you get into being a victim and everything's, oh, and then, but then, oh, but the system's gonna help me because I'm a victim. It's all a lie. To get you deeper into it is to control you. Your body turns on when you decide you're gonna overcome something. Doesn't mean you're not pissed off at it. Doesn't mean that you're not being victimized, but you're not a victim. You are not sitting there, comporting to this definition that they have and just, yeah,

1:18:18 yeah, well the world's gonna end in 2030, so why should I get a job? And now they put out reports it ends in 2025. Now that's what CNN's saying. We have the Project Veritas video a year and a half ago where they said, well, the COVID thing's gonna get shut down soon, they're not buying that, so next we're saying the world's ending. And people believe it's the hottest it's ever been. No, Texas has always been miserable in July and August, folks. It's always been, you know, I mean, I can go to the temperature rates and go, my goodness, in the 30s? and in the teens, it was like five degrees hotter on average. I mean, it's just not real. It's not, it's just, people don't have memories either, but I challenge listeners to do it and they've gone and done it and gone, well, I looked up temperature records, like in the nineties, it was like 115 and 110 in Austin. And they're saying 107 is the hottest ever? No, they're lying folks. They're lying. And then once you know that, laugh at it.

1:19:10 I mean, the asphalt always burns your feet at 3 o'clock in the afternoon or you're at the pool. Remember when you were a kid, if you lived in, you know, Alabama or Florida or Texas or Arizona or even Southern California and it's like August and, you know, you get out of the pool to go take a piss in the bathroom and it hurts on the way to the bathroom. That's because it's hot out there, man. I grew up in East Tennessee. I know all about it. That's why I think a lot of it is crazy. A lot of people say I'm some sort of doomsayer or fear monger. I'm not. Honestly, I'm not. Maybe I'm desensitized. I'm not afraid of some sort of catastrophic future. Not because I don't believe it's going to happen. Just because we don't know if it's going to happen. You don't know if you're going to die tomorrow.

1:19:50 I think that there's some comfort in imagining that everyone dies all at once, whether it's global warming or an AI apocalypse or nuclear- Well, it's meant to just get people to roll over and give up and be directed to not have any destiny so you don't get in the way of their plans. They want to run the future. They want you to give up. Instead go, well, this is wild. I'm in a science fiction movie. I'm going to make it a utopia, not a dystopia. I'm going to have fun. I mean, this is wild. This is crazy. I think that really is the only, I mean, you know, in my reporting, you're giving a quick segment, you're explaining a danger and I do believe this is a real danger on multiple levels. Spiritually, most of all, I think the temptation of holding technology up as the highest power is perhaps the most dangerous spiritual temptation of our time. Because the people in control

1:20:35 of it will now be the highest power. technocracy, absolutely, but even there is some temptation towards the transhuman, a temptation towards optimalism. One thing we talk about a lot, we talk about transgender surgeries. What is a transgender surgery? Transgender surgery is basically taking a hot porno babe who's had breast augmentation and lip filler and applying it to an XY chromosome. That distinction, that sharp distinction that says that somehow

1:21:19 the transgender. It's a fraud. You're not this image of this super sexed up hot woman. You're a man and it's going to look stupid. It's a lie. It's a fraud. You go in to get a Lamborghini and they give you a broken down Pinto. Well, you know what? I would say that, uh, you know, uh, certain women with breast implants and lip filler look a lot better than men with it. Right. But my point, well, I even said this, I got to interrupt you because I said this the other day and it's true. I'm a libertarian at some level, so you're not hurting kids, it's your life, you can commit suicide if you want, just don't make me pay for it or have state run. I said if they could make women that want to be a man a real penis that worked and felt good, and you got the money, get a penis. I mean, I'm sorry.

1:21:59 I mean, I'm not going to go do it. You know, if I was a woman, I'm not going to do that. But they cut off your forearms and your legs and it only hurts. And they put a piece of PVC pipe in it. You pee out of it. On average, it falls off within a year. A rotting meat thing. They ought to arrest the people doing that. It's like, OK, if you could give some of you, advanced technology in 400 years or whatever, you know, we can give you a penis and it feels good. I'm like, okay, go in and get a penis. You see what I'm saying? As far as the brown acid at Woodstock, bro. It's a fraud, dude. It ain't working, man. Or the little boys, they cut it off and create this bleeding canal, and for a decade they gotta keep a thing up in them? And there's no pleasure but pain? This is like Hellraiser! They opt them in to do this? I'm sorry, I'm ranting. We're gonna skip this break. Skip this break, keep going.

1:22:48 of human transformation and right or left or conservative, you know, gender normative, heteronormative, whatever. The technological transformation is ubiquitous because that's the water we swim in. It's a fraud. Again, you go in, you buy a new Ford F-150 and the engine blows up when you're driving out of the parking lot. I mean, that's better than a giant rotting fake penis. I don't want to like dog too hard on it. Folks, they cut globs of meat and sew it together and it hangs off. Go watch the surgery. I don't want to dog too hard. I cannot even. believe this is happening. On our duck-lipped sisters, but I see only a matter of degree. Look at all the Hollywood women, they used to be beautiful, look like these aliens now. They've had so many surgeries, it's the same scan. It really is. I think that people have lost the ability to simply reconcile themselves to the natural order, let alone the divine order. Remember the South Park episode like 10 years ago where he wants to be a dolphin?

1:23:44 Yes, fantastic. We played that on the war room. Steve Bannon isn't about doing a lot of funny stuff, cute stuff, right? We talked him into playing that segment on the war room and what happens, like most people thought it was absolutely hilarious, people came out of the woodwork because it was Kyle's dad and they said that it was anti-Semitic. They were like, that's anti-Semitic to have a- That's it. Queue it up. We're going to play. But the reality is no. That's the one. And by the way, what's crazy is Jews make that show. Yeah. But the point is they're telling you it's a scam. That's one good thing about those brothers is remember they were the only ones on TV to put a 35 millimeter footage of a man going to a woman and they really just fillet and cut his penis off. I saw it, yeah. And the point is is they're telling you, no dude, you're not a dolphin just because they just cut up your body and then put a giant dolphin thing on your back.

1:24:33 They're telling you it's a fraud, dude. And that's the cargo call and that's the cargo that has arrived, right? Gumby leg penises with silicone balls installed beneath. That's the cargo that has arrived so far. And again, if I wanted to go have my penis cut off and have this big wedge thing put on me for 10 years that bleeds and stinks and all this, I'm mentally ill. They should put me in a rubber room, folks, and I'll do it. But even if I did it, my bones are twice as big as an average woman's, bigger than most men's. my Rothblatt doesn't even claim any sort of pronoun, but Martin Rothblatt wrote the book, I believe it was 2011, 2010, from transgender to transhuman. And the philosophy she's coming out of, he's coming out of, whatever,

1:25:32 coming out of Kurzweil's idea of the singularity. And the concept that Rothblatt lays out is that it's exactly what you're saying from a positive standpoint. This is a person who sits on the board at the Mayo Clinic, by the way. This is a person who is tasked with evaluating what is and is not healthy. But Rothblatt says that the digitization of the personality, right, the substrate independence of the personality, whether it's your brain or whether it's on a computer, that that is just like the gender disassociation from biology. So Rothblatt's undergone all the business, right?

1:26:12 draws a direct line between the disassociation of the personality with the body to the disassociation of what we would call the soul, what they simply think of as patterns in the brain. They are transhumanist priests that are... I didn't mean to interrupt at the end there. They are transhumanist priests that are literally giving up parts of their body in a ritual sacrifice to prove themselves into this. Sorry, I interrupted you. You know, something I think that you'll find very interesting, that you probably already know actually, the Alistair Crowley's book of the law and his prediction. Yeah, he got it from a little gray alien the first time anybody ever saw one. No, that was later. That's when he went to the Great Pyramid, yeah. It was Iowa's, right? Sorry, I interrupted again.

1:27:00 His book of the law, he describes, well, or the spirits describe three ages, a matriarchal age, a patriarchal age, and then the new age of the child, right? The crowned and conquering child. And I don't remember if it's in the book of the law itself, but certainly in his later interpretation of it, as he begins developing these thelemic cults, and as he begins to put his stamp on the Gnostic mass and on the OTO, the Ordo Templi Orientis, They describe the age of the child in terms of this sort of hermaphroditic figure. Here you have the spirit of the age is do what thou wilt with no other law before it. The spirit of the age is hermaphroditic and the spirit of the age is childlike. Whether you think that he was in fact channeling demons or not, he called it. Crowley called it. And he was a child molester.

1:27:52 Really? Oh yeah. I remember certain allegations, I don't know, I don't really want to romanticize or defend. Oh the guy was a complete, a complete, I mean he just, he took a bunch of the cosmology that was already there and repackaged it, yeah, the mysterious death of his son and all that. I'm only vaguely familiar with that. Yeah, he was really bad. So yeah, but you know, that came out in the WikiLeaks, all the different Democrats, high level worshiping Thelma and Aleister Crowley. And they're like, oh my god, my cousin got hit by a car, almost died, we'll do a ritual tonight. And then it's like, oh great, by the way, we're gonna be at the cabin and we're gonna have seven year old kids for you. Now, they're gonna be there for your enjoyment in the pool. And this is real stuff, not speculation in the WikiLeaks.

1:28:36 I mean these are some creepy people man. deeply he touched the culture and how much of it has just simply faded into the background, how normal it is. Well, well, well, you have to stare away to heaven and think, oh, you know, Jimmy Page bought Bolsk in house and lived in Alistair Crowley's castle. Yeah. Yeah. And then I think soon after that, uh, one of their kids, uh, uh, Robert plants kid died. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Well, they, well, they got away from that pretty quick after that happens when I've been told people that no Robert plant, he's delivering Austin, but yeah. Um,

1:29:26 I do think that that demonic sort of element, I myself see it as certainly a valid point of view, a valid perspective. But a lot of my friends aren't hardcore believers, they are either atheists or just simply agnostic. I think that they easily dismiss this stuff, they're like, oh, it's just a bunch of bugaboo. But even if you just think of it as a symbol, Even if you just think of the age of the child as a symbol, or if you think of Lucifer or Satan as a symbol for certain natural elements. An archetype. An archetype, absolutely. It's still important and still valid. I think there's

1:30:05 There's room for that conversation, especially. Well sure, I mean there's no doubt whether we're using it as an art type of manifesting or whether it's real. It's real, it's happening. Yes. And you kind of started the interview with that. Joe Allen, the book is available at Amazon.com. We are not in bed with Jeff Bezos. That's how the market works. You push it number one there, then it becomes a big book. If you want to push this book and get it first, get it right now. It is Dark Eon by Joe Allen. Transhumanism and the war against humanity. Couldn't say it better. Can't wait to read the book. My book also comes out, I mean, August is just starting to like tomorrow. So it comes out in a few weeks. It's getting printed. I think in like a week. So it'll be literally be hot off the presses if you want my new book, The Great Awakening, how to defeat the new world order and launch the second great renaissance, which is promoting humans and human ideas and human culture and human art.

1:30:55 and freedom and not pre-programmed corporate garbage. That's also available at amazon.com in a few weeks. If you want signed copies or unsigned copies, want to support us directly, we're going to have the books and like two weeks we're told they'll be here and then we'll have those for you at infowarestore.com. We got about two minutes left, Joe Allen, and just any other points you haven't made. I'm sure you've got a lot more to make, but any other key points you were like, I wish I would've said that. You know, I'm sure I'll go look back with a lot of front step comebacks, but I, Really, the most important thing to me is that there is some awareness outside. I have no doubt that most, if not all of your listeners and viewers are well aware of transhumanism, what transhumanism is.

1:31:38 I'm not providing the news that transhumanism is a dominant paradigm in the current culture. What I hope to provide, though, is a certain intellectual framework and philosophical framework, and to draw the connections between the technologies themselves, the spiritual expectations of the transhumanist, futurist, posthumanist, whatever, and to be able to look at that in relation to yourself, to look down the road that these people are trying to pave ahead of us and decide, do you go down that road? How far have you already gone down that road yourself? And if you're not going to, if we're not going to simply follow along these futurist projections and live out the fantasy that they're putting before us, then what do we do? I don't.

1:32:24 answer that last question, at least not in any detailed way, but I hope that by the time that anyone gets to the end of the book or if they simply just go into any given chapter and look at what interests them the most, that they will have some conceptual framework of what this civilizational transformation is and have some sort of idea of where they want to be in it. All right, well after this show has aired here, we're going to archive this and make it into a video. I think they should take a clip of what you just said and put it on the front of the interview because I think that was really well said. All right, joebot.xyz at joebot.xyz. Joe Allen?

1:33:06 Thank you so much for spending time with us. It was great having Steve Bannon on. I was wanting to get you on as a guest a while back. I don't know why it didn't happen, but I'm glad that he got you on the show. Thank you, sir. Dude, this was a blast. Thank you very much. Pleasure to meet you. Anytime you're in town, boom, you tell the crew, let's get you in studio. And if you want to hang around some more, maybe, I don't know how long you're going to be in Austin, but get you on some of the other shows, Owen's our own war room. and I'm kind of flattered that the band name is the show after ours. That's kind of a standard name for a political war room thing. So we kind of named it after somebody else too. So it's not really, it's just kind of like what you do. But we've got our own war room with Owen Shroyer, 3 p.m. Central. We've got American Journal, Theresa Smith at 8 a.m. weekdays and all the other special reports. But the only way the reports and the videos, the articles, material gets out is when the listeners and viewers share it. You want to get a deep dive on AI? Well, what all the hubbub is about, you just got it. It's a tool of transhumanism.

1:33:56 It's an invention, it's not inherently bad, but the way it's being crafted, the way it's being pushed is for control. Let's get aware of it so we don't get dominated by it. We'll be right back with more coming up straight ahead. Thank you so much. In 1975, New York City was over $11 billion in debt and the banks were no longer there to bail them out.

1:34:47 Instead, the bankers made him sweat, never showed up to the meeting, and then created a committee that they controlled so that the banks could manage the city directly. This has been brilliantly documented in the Adam Curtis film, Hypernormalization. The announcement on behalf of the Comptroller is that the offer, which we had expected to receive and announce at 2 o'clock this afternoon, is now expected at four o'clock. Well, does this mean that so far nobody wants those bonds? We will be making a further announcement at four o'clock and anything further that I could say now, I think would not advance the interest of the sale, which is now in progress. Does this mean that you have not been able to sell them so far today? We will have a further announcement at four o'clock. What happened that day in New York marked a radical shift in power.

1:35:45 The banks insisted that in order to protect their loans, they should be allowed to take control of the city. The city appealed to the president, but he refused to help. So a new committee was set up to manage the city's finances. Out of nine members, eight of them were bankers. It was the start of an extraordinary experiment, where the financial institutions took power away from the politicians and started to run society themselves. That was nearly 50 years ago, and so you can be sure that the banks manage everything now. Politicians are merely their puppets, which was recently made blatantly obvious with the public display of Dianne Feinstein and her handlers. I would like to support a yes vote on this.

1:36:46 It provides $823 billion. That's an increase of $26 billion for the Department of Defense. And it funds priorities submitted. Just say hi. Okay, just hi. Thank you. Politicians are only there to keep the people divided and distracted. And they have so far been hugely successful at that. While a cashless society is slowly being built around us, everyone is hyper-emotional about something else and focused on fighting each other, which is most certainly exactly what the banks were shooting for. Because once they get us off of cash and completely onto a digital system, then the banks will have absolute control over each and every one of us. A key difference with the CBDC is that central bank will have