Monday FULL SHOW: COVID Bio Attack Texts Rock UK Government PLUS Michael Malice In Studio - 3/6/23

00:00 It's Monday, March 6th, 2023. We've got a big broadcast tonight. I'm here today with Michael Mallison-Horner in the studio. InfoWars. Tomorrow's news today. Woo! We have got a transmission for you today.

00:38 I've done a lot of research and a lot of work and I'm loaded for bear. We have massive escalation in war with Russia and China. We have new documents coming out that Fauci directly blocked the fact that the virus came out of the Wuhan lab. We have the UK government documents confirmed public, they're not denying it, that they said we're going to release a new variant to terrorize the public into submission to collapse the economy. We have got the left's attempt at race war going into high gear. We've got a bunch of studies old and new on 5G causing cancer and some video demonstrations of it. We have the Biden administration make stunning admission on climate change in leaked memo that they do not want quote greater energy security and want to cut off the American people's energy, that their policy is to cut off our energy. Now we can look at the policy in form,

01:39 And in function, we don't need to have a leaked memo to know that. But it's also nice to know that it's premeditated and it's confirmed and they know exactly what they're doing. But as Alexander Shultz and Eatson said, they know that we know, we know that they know, we all know, but they still deny it. I kind of butchered that. You guys pull up the actual Alexander Shultz and Eatson quote about We know, they know that we know and it just goes on perfectly describe how it works to live inside an authoritarian totalitarian system. It's just over the top wild. Also, not just Walmart but other major chains are closing stores in major cities around the country because the crime is so horrible they're losing money in them. But big corporations are willing to do that because they want to break the average person as well. So even when big box stores can't make it, you know the general public

02:33 really can't as well. Got a big stack of news on replacement migration where the left out of one side of their mouth here and in Europe say white people are bad we want to get rid of them but then if you say hey you got these memos and statements and UN plans that white people are bad oh no we don't you're insane we're gonna try to pass laws to arrest you. Well they have passed them in Europe in the UK and Canada if you say that but it's not just The Democrats that are doing that, like in Washington state, their attorney general's introduced a bill for the Ministry of Truth, which targets conservatives opposing election fraud and vaccine mandates would make them a crime. He actually says it in the video, but it gets worse. We have Florida GOP, a senior member of the Santa's support group declares war on First Amendment to combat anti-Semitism.

03:27 He says you will spend jail time for your free speech. So the silver lining of DeSantis, the shine is really wearing off of him in many ways. And that's not because I think Trump's perfect or either. I'm just gonna cover the facts of we can see tyranny from the right wing, not just the left wing as well. We don't just mindlessly defend the right wing here. In fact, I would even call myself right wing at the end of the day. I'm a pro-human common sense, pro-family, pro-God, pro-self-defense, pro-America, populist. So all of this and more are coming up today. And hey, when the Biden administration does something positive, which is very rare, I'll be the first to talk about it. And in a major twist, EPA chief warns Ohio parents to not drink the water and to filter their water.

04:26 Now that seems like common sense to do. Most major water supplies are contaminated with bisphenol A and atrazine and stuff that'll literally shrivel your testicles up and turn you into a eunuch and give you cancer. But they'll never say that. Oh no, the water is safe. Alex Jones is a conspiracy theorist. Never filtered the water. But more and more they're like, hey, you should filter the water. Wow, something good and truthful from these people. It is possible. Wow. Remember David Hogg attacked me on C-SPAN for the conspiracy theory that you should filter your water in most areas. At least check from the local water test and almost everywhere the water is poisonous. We'll be right back, stay with us. It's Monday, March 6, 2023. I am your host Alex Jones, very honored and blessed to be here. I want to thank you all for tuning in and sharing

05:14 the transmission that overrides the censors and the tyrants. All right, a really great researcher and author and popular podcaster and a guy I've been interviewing hard to believe for more than 10 years, Michael Malice, now a fellow Austinite moved here from New York to escape the lockdowns, is gonna be in studio with us in the second and third hour. Paul Watson will also be visiting to talk about this first big story we're going to hit. Now this broke on Friday in the London Telegraph, now it's all over the world news and they've admitted that yes indeed a hundred thousand of his private messages to himself and the rest of the government ministers from WhatsApp were hacked and it is full of criminal activity. It's him talking to the Prime Minister, him talking to the other agencies, him talking to their Ministry of Defense about how to scare the public and use quote mind control on them

06:19 The media tried to focus mainly on him cheating on his wife in the text messages, but that hasn't worked. They talk about deploying a new variant to quote scare the pants off of everyone and they say we should just go ahead and ban everything. That sounds more legitimate than only banning a few things. It is a keyhole view into the seedy underworld of fear-mongering and mind control. And you notice the rhetoric coming out of his mouth is the exact same the US government, the German government, the Canadian government, the Australian government, the Dutch government, the French government, the Italian government. It's the same garbage coming out of the Spanish government because it was a unified worldwide corporate UN assault.

07:04 The UK lockdown files, text messages reveal how top British health officials conspired to quote scare the pants off everyone and asking when do we deploy the new variant. Now we know they cooked it up in a lab but I believe there they're talking about deploying the hype of a new variant. Project fear. Authors discuss when to deploy the new COVID variant. London Telegraph. And now suddenly there are prominent members of Congress and governors and foreign leaders and you name it Bill Maher, Russell Brand, Joe Rogan coming out against the New World Order, coming out against the globalists, coming out against the big corporations, coming out against Bill Gates and pointing the elephant in the room. You can go back 20 years where Bill Gates got banned in India, his dad. You can go back a decade when Bill Gates got banned in Kenya and other African countries because they caught them adding sterilants to the vaccines.

08:06 Different ways they do it. But one thing is with a tetanus shot, they'd add a certain key female hormone that's only produced at the beginning of the second trimester. And then it causes an autoimmune response and the body attacks the baby at the second trimester and kills it. Bill Gates got caught doing that really 15, 16 years ago. You can look up UN caught adding steroids to vaccines Kenya and Bill Gates was behind it. Just like he was behind six years ago getting caught in Africa and in Central Asia, places like Pakistan, giving children live polio on purpose causing polio outbreaks. You ask how does he do it? Well that's the question. He's practicing through the media that he spends billions of dollars of tax money. He really gets all this grant money and puts his own money in tax exempt.

08:57 and then pays himself back profits from the vaccines we all are basically forced to take or much of us are forced to take. And he goes around then testing to see how many people he can kill. Well, he got away with the tetanus shots that were Trojan horses for infertility and automatic miscarriages. And he got away with spreading polio around the world in the vaccines. And so Now he's going to get away, he thinks, with the COVID shots. And notice the amount of death is going up and up and up and up and up and up and up each time. So Joe Rogan last week had Russell Brand in studio, and they brought up the fact that I was on Joe's show a few years ago and said, you know, Bill Gates got caught adding polio to the vaccines. He got banned in a bunch of countries. And Joe went, hold on just a second. Let's search that. And Joe had never seen that. There it was in AP and Reuters. And he went, oh my God, it's true. And he did a bunch of research on it.

09:56 But the reason I mention that is because it's a window into the mindset of these people. It's all a test with successful approximation to increase the level of the attack and to be able to get away with it. That's why it's so critical to finally nail them for this. And we have in the court of public opinion, the coverage of them being behind the COVID bug and behind the poison shots is a million times, literally, bigger than the attention they got for Kenya. and bigger for the attention that they got around the world with the tainted Trojan horse polio injections. So they're not happy. This didn't go well because of independent media. That's why they're trying to pass laws and have in Europe. They're trying to pass them here. And we've got news on that we'll be getting to, to literally shut down

10:51 and arrest anyone that questions any of the poison injections they roll out. Even though everything they said about the poison injections was a lie, everything we said was true. But this lie, this eugenics operation, this depopulation operation cannot thrive, cannot survive, cannot operate if we are here exposing them. So we have nothing to lose. All we can do is fight. When we fight back, things get better. When we roll over, things get successively worse. So I saw this headline and I knew instantly what the story was about and I went and read it in detail and sure enough, it's a great article from newspunch.com.

11:32 And it goes over the history of the Gates Foundation caught with abortion drugs that he populate and even members of his own team later admitting it. It's a nice boil down of what happened in the mid 90s through the mid 2000s all over Africa. Gates Foundation insider admits COVID vaccines are abortion drugs to depopulate the world. And you read the article and it's full of links and quotes to where it actually happened and how the WHO even had to admit that, okay, we sterilized millions of people in Africa with these shots. And again, you can try to argue that, well, we should sterilize people. Do you want to be sterilized? You want this guy to have the power over you to do that? Because it's wink, wink, hey, let's kill the Africans. Well, what about you? See, don't pretend like the new world order isn't coming after you. You can be a billionaire, they're coming after you. Let's play the clip of Russell Brand on Joe Rogan.

12:24 Bill Gates ain't Willy Wonka. He ain't doing this for like a competition. There's no golden ticket at the end of this. It's like a not-for-profit organization's making profit, an incredible amount of influence in areas that he profits from, all sorts of peculiar business practices like in India and on the continent of Africa that have led to like palpable suffering and profit in his case. The Africa thing is wild and that's a big part of this, the Real Anthony Fauci book. He talks about Bill Gates quite a bit and one of the things he talks about is how they've always used Africa as a place where they test out medicines. They've used Africa as a place where they test out... This is another thing that I learned from Alex Jones. Alex Jones was saying that they were giving kids the polio vaccine in Africa and that Bill Gates was involved in this and they had to stop doing it because it was actually giving kids polio. And I was like, what?

13:15 And they pull up an AP article. There was an AP story about this and it shows this terrified little African baby and they're dropping the polio vaccine in his mouth, like squeezing his face, dropping his mouth. I'm like, what the f***, man? They gave kids polio with a vaccine? Even when you accept everything that they say at this late point when it appears impossible to do that, they wouldn't release patents so that African nations could recreate the vaccines over there. So clearly there's a profit motive and I saw him publicly talk about that and say, oh no, it's not as simple as that. You can't just give people the patents and stuff like that. But it seems like if you recognise that what drives them always is power, finance and dominion, if you always look at that and then track their actions, you hardly ever see a disruption in that pattern.

14:04 And if you try to think about all the evil things in 45 years, Fauci's quarterbacked, and he's part of a big eugenics society and works for Bill Gates, it'll make your head spin. Remember in the 80s and 90s, thousands of foster children taken in New York alone, who were healthy and given AIDS drugs till they died. That's Fauci again. Or taking German shepherds and beagles and paralyzing and letting flesh-eating bugs eat their faces off. That's Fauci. If it's evil, he's doing it. He's Joseph Mingle at 2.0. We'll be right back. All right, we're talking about something really important and that's your right to listen to what you want to listen to, to watch what you want to watch, to read what you want to watch. That's what all the surveillance and censorship is about, is controlling your mind and your ability to make good decisions. So in Europe, in the UK, they've passed laws, Australia has done it as well, to criminalize free speech, criminalize speaking out against open borders, election fraud, forced injections.

14:59 And notice our Justice Department came out two years ago, run by Biden, and said the same thing. White supremacists are the number one threat. And then defined in that June report a year and a half ago, two years ago, that it's anybody questioning open borders, stolen elections, lockdowns, or forced shots. You are a white supremacist. And then by that definition, with hate crime laws, then you get higher penalties for things that would be misdemeanors. I'll explain that in a moment. But it's a formulated plan all over the Western world run by the same people. So, here's an article on the Gateway Pundit. You can go read a copy of the legislation. It's linked to it. State Attorney General pushing Ministry of Truth bill which targets conservatives opposing election fraud and vaccine mandates could become crimes. Washington State Attorney General Bob Ferguson is pushing the state legislature to adopt legislation that would set up a commission on domestic terrorism. See, it's terror.

14:04 And if you try to think about all the evil things in 45 years, Fauci's quarterbacked, and he's part of a big eugenics society and works for Bill Gates, it'll make your head spin. Remember in the 80s and 90s, thousands of foster children taken in New York alone, who were healthy and given AIDS drugs till they died. That's Fauci again. Or taking German shepherds and beagles and paralyzing and letting flesh-eating bugs eat their faces off. That's Fauci. If it's evil, he's doing it. He's Joseph Mingle at 2.0. We'll be right back. All right, we're talking about something really important and that's your right to listen to what you want to listen to, to watch what you want to watch, to read what you want to watch. That's what all the surveillance and censorship is about, is controlling your mind and your ability to make good decisions. So in Europe, in the UK, they've passed laws, Australia has done it as well, to criminalize free speech, criminalize speaking out against open borders, election fraud, forced injections.

14:59 And notice our Justice Department came out two years ago, run by Biden, and said the same thing. White supremacists are the number one threat. And then defined in that June report a year and a half ago, two years ago, that it's anybody questioning open borders, stolen elections, lockdowns, or forced shots. You are a white supremacist. And then by that definition, with hate crime laws, then you get higher penalties for things that would be misdemeanors. I'll explain that in a moment. But it's a formulated plan all over the Western world run by the same people. So, here's an article on the Gateway Pundit. You can go read a copy of the legislation. It's linked to it. State Attorney General pushing Ministry of Truth bill which targets conservatives opposing election fraud and vaccine mandates could become crimes. Washington State Attorney General Bob Ferguson is pushing the state legislature to adopt legislation that would set up a commission on domestic terrorism. See, it's terror.

15:59 That mirrors Biden's policy according to a report that could lead to a conservative individual being criminally charged for expressing their views. And it goes on and KTTH TV reporting on it, HB 1333 sets up a domestic violent extremist commission and then they will decide the commission what is a crime, not the legislature. Absolutely insane, HB 1333, Now, you're thinking, well that's the crazies in Washington. No, no, no, no, no, no. We saw Greg Abbott a year and a half ago come out and say, I'm pro free speech. But if it's anti-Semitic, we want you banned. Anti-Semitic. You can have the left running around everywhere at the universities on TV singing, Christians are evil, whites are evil, America's evil.

16:51 Oh, but if people want to say Jews are bad, you're not allowed to. You should be able to say any groups bad you want. That's your First Amendment. Doesn't mean I support what somebody's saying, doesn't mean you support it. And again, it always starts with don't say the N-word, don't attack Jews. And the next is don't criticize open borders or election fraud or forced injections, which they're now doing. Florida GOP declares war on the First Amendment. Infowars.com to combat anti-Semitism. The free state of Florida is said to have the most oppressive hate crime laws in America in order to combat anti-semitism and anything else they say is hate. Base dissent has just got your first amendment rights revoked. Anti-semitism hate speech laws about to be passed in Florida throwing pennies at the synagogue is now five years in jail. There is no first amendment right to conduct, Jewish Florida State Representative Randy Fine told the media earlier this week. We're going to play a clip of what he has to say ladies and gentlemen.

17:51 But notice he says graffiti is illegal, but it's a misdemeanor. But if we say it's hateful, five years in jail. So that speech, you can say graffiti is illegal because it's somebody else's property. That's a property violation. But they're building an unconstitutional bridge, then saying, well, we're not going to give you a $500 fine. Your second offense, two weeks in jail. No, We're gonna say if what you said is hateful and by the ADL definition and the definitions the Feds are creating and Washington's creating and the other states are creating, criticizing open borders, election fraud, lockdowns, forced injections, whatever else they want. A bill was introduced what a month ago by the Democrats in Congress that if you criticize a minority in any way, five years in jail. They're introducing these bills, they're trying to do this. You saw the deputy head of the EU Commission.

18:45 three weeks ago at the World Government Summit, looked to members of the Republican delegation, Democrat delegation that were there, members of Congress and said, we've already banned free speech and hate speech. We know you're about to ban it as well. And the Republican, Democrat Congress people nodded their heads. It's here. It's not coming. It's here. And it's beyond the canary in the coal mine. So here he is explaining this. They'll take a misdemeanor. That's a misdemeanor. Has nothing to do with a quote hate but because the thought behind it was bad five years in jail here it is Sure and again, I would remind you that there is no there's no first amendment right to conduct There's a first amendment right to speech and the things that we're targeting in the bill are not speech again If someone wants to stand across the street from my house and wave the sign on the sidewalk

19:34 they have every right to do that and this bill won't have anything to do with that. But when it veers into conduct, and so the way we're going to approach this is through a hate crime kicker. So if you project, if you graffiti a building, it is a crime now. But if your motivation is hate, it will be a third-degree felony. You will spend five years in prison. If you want to litter, it's a crime right now. But if you litter and your motivation is a hate crime, it will be a third degree felony. You will spend five years in jail. It is a crime right now to hang banners from an interstate. For obvious reasons, we don't want to distract drivers. But if you do that and you have a hate crime, a hate motivation, it will be a third degree felony. You will spend five years in jail. How optimistic are you of moving this bill along? I guarantee the bill will pass. And I never do that.

20:22 Well, DeSantis better veto that or I'm going to totally not support Ron DeSantis. That will be just a nail in the coffin too far if that's the case. But taking crimes that aren't felonies, that aren't associated with violence, and then saying we're going to make it a hate crime five years in jail if you litter. So I'm protesting outside the ADL because they're anti-free speech. We really should do that. Very authoritarian. And I leave, I forget and leave say a cup of iced tea and a styrofoam cup on the steps of it or a handkerchief falls out of the back of my pocket. Oh, you littered in front of the ADL five years in prison. This is the plan to get our free speech. They've already done it in Europe. You've seen all the arrest videos of where a veteran posts the trans flag as a swastika because if you put it together, four of them, it makes a swastika. They arrested him last time I heard he's still in jail. Came to his house, took him to jail.

21:24 This is the plan, this is what's going on, and they specifically don't want you talking about the poison shots or the open borders or any of it. That's all defined by the Justice Department as white supremacists. And then by extension, everything else is racist. But violent criminals, I saw another article today on Washington State where a mass shooter who was black got out while he's gonna face trial. was only in jail a few weeks, shot a whole bunch of people. But that's okay, you're black, we're gonna let you out of jail. But if you say something mean to the ADL or to Black Lives Matter or the NAACP that are completely un-American, foaming at the mouth, weaponize groups coming after all of our freedoms, well then you're in deep trouble. So if America bows down to this,

22:15 As people do, remember during the Black Lives Matter, thousands of white people at events, bowing and worshipping black people, shining their boots, kissing their ass, while the black people spew anti-white racist rhetoric. This is just a sign of them submitting to their collective guilt and Stockholm syndrome. And they'll follow whatever agenda comes out of Black Lives Matter, they could care less about black people. In fact, it says their number one goal is ending the nuclear family for black people. Boy, with friends like that, who needs enemies? All right, we're gonna come back with a lot of other news on the poison shot front. I'm gonna shift gears and all the other news jam-packed broadcast today and a special guest in studio stay with us. Okay, I want to finish up with the really important poison shot news and how close we are to bringing the criminals to justice. Now we've already convicted them in a court of public opinion, which will make it much harder for them to launch another attack or lockdown. We've already got them on the ropes. We got to go all the way.

32:23 You're welcome is a best-selling author, great researcher, great historian, and good friend of mine. He's going to be in studio with us for the next two hours, coming up second and third hour. Paul Watson with the huge British news I'd already mentioned is going to be popping in with their health minister caught saying we'll release a new variant to scare the public into submission and so much more. He's going to be popping in during that interview to talk about that and all the big COVID news I haven't gotten to yet. But before I hit some of this other news, I had a Michael Malice coming in here in about 12 minutes or so in the next hour, just to finish up what I was saying last segment. This is an information war.

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35:17 Get it all, vitamin D3, you name it, at infowarestore.com or 888-253-3139. All right, just wanted to explain that and make that extremely clear about how important that decision is that you have to make for yourself. You're in the driver's seat. You have to make the decision. All right, let me tell you what we're going to be covering here today. And we'll be covering the waterfront, but we're going to be discussing what it means to be white-pilled versus what it means to be red-pilled or blue-pilled. And I think we should describe and create a new pill today here on air called infinity pill. Because I really think looking into infinity and realizing how timeless and incredible and how amazing things are is really the way to break free from the globalist control and realize they're finite. But the human experience is eternal and is infinite.

36:11 We're also going to look at 5G and the fact that major study for major study is linked directly to cancer. And people don't understand that. I have some video demonstrations that are going to lay that out. We're also going to look at the war in Ukraine that's escalated out of control and can it be stopped for at least the thermal nuclear war, the end conclusion of this World War III path that we're already deeply into. World War III has already begun. The question is, will it go nuclear? Then we'll also continue to look at the entire attack on our youth and where that whole movement is going and how we can stop it. But also some good news I mentioned earlier, a new twist EPA chief warns Ohio parents don't drink the water. And that seems simple, doesn't it?

36:57 But normally on 9-11 they say the air is safe to breathe, the water is safe to drink. So much of the U.S. water supply is contaminated with hundreds, in some cases thousands of chemicals like atrazine, dioxins, bisphenol A, the list goes on and on. But to have the EPA chief Say you should do that, but we don't need the government to tell us to do that. But so many people wait till the government, like it's the ultimate authority tells them. But to have the Biden administration actually do something real and say it's in your hands, protect yourself is good. As they always tell you, Democrat, Republican administrations, the water is clean, the water is good. Well, just ask the folks in Flint, Michigan if that's the case, they know it's not. So I'm a big detractor from the Biden puppet administration.

37:45 But I will give credit when credit's due. And so this is a good first move. Maybe it becomes contagious to tell the truth. EPA chief warns Ohio parents, I would not let my children play in the East Palestine creeks or streams. And he went on to say, after he was seen drinking the tap water, they went on to say you should filter the tap water. EPA chief Michael Regan warned Ohio parents to keep their children out of local creeks and streams along a toxic chemical mushroom cloud explosion in early February. And he himself didn't say filter, but the EPA under his direction is saying you should filter it. Reagan made it to East Palisades Wednesday. He was asked if he would let his kids play in the streams and he said no.

38:28 So we need to hear people in government tell the truth. But it's the same government that just told us these poison shots were safe and they work with big tech to censor anybody that tried to warn them. And the same thing goes for 5G and all the rest of it. You can't wait for the government bought and paid for by these out of control Fortune 100 companies to tell you something. You've got to do your own research and make that decision for yourself. Here's another example of what I was just talking about. This is out of Fox News. The Biden administration makes stunning admission on climate agenda in leaked internal memo. The Biden administration acknowledged in a memo accidentally leaked on Friday that charging fossil fuel companies less to drill would provide greater energy security for the American people despite its plan to hike royalties. They go on to say though despite that they want to get us off fossil fuels so they're going to hike the rates and continue to block pipelines and new permits to drill when they haven't created an alternative. There's not enough cobalt

39:30 or lithium in the world to convert to battery-driven cars. So what they're really doing is destroying the infrastructure and ensuring that our economy breaks down and our economy is based on cars because of urban sprawl, we will totally collapse without it. Same thing Elon Musk explained over and over again and there's all these actuaries and Prager Universities done great breakdowns of it. But if you don't have 2.1 children on average for every family, There's no replacement rate and civilization collapses. I'm all for planing off population naturally with wealth and success and middle class and people if they choose to have five kids or two kids or one kid or no kid. But to have policies designed to stop people having children, like Japan's down to 1.1, Italy's at 1.2, France is at 1.3, England's at 1.4. Indigenous US populations, white, black, Hispanic, we're at about 1.5.

40:23 We're not replacing ourselves, ladies and gentlemen. And instead they're bringing in collapsed third world permanent underclasses who have no history of freedom, so they will accept the new authoritarian system because the globalist corporate fascists don't want people to aspire to the greatest form of liberty the world ever saw, the United States of America, which doesn't mean it was much liberty. But compared in a metric to all other systems, it was fantastically free. The global corporate fascist centralized tyrants don't want you to aspire to wealth and success. That's why they want to dynamite and destroy any upward bridge, any ladder up. And that's why they're so incredibly criminal. While the globalists invest in China and they build new coal power plants every week that are totally dirty, our totally clean coal power plants only produce carbon dioxide that plants breathe.

41:21 We are completely shutting down while they are building. Mexico opens a new coal power plant every month. China every week, India every two, three weeks. As we shut down more plants every single week and our energy prices have more than doubled the last two years, it's all by design to make you poor so they can control you. Look at the blue cities. Look what they are living like. Look at what they produce. And that is the same feudalistic corporate manager system to make you poor so they can dictate the terms of our surrender. Feudalism is not a new system. It's the oldest form of government practiced by every human culture before the Renaissance 500 years ago. We're not going forward into some progressive new future. We're going downward into a high-tech version of every form of ancient slavery. All right, we're gonna go to break. Come back, start hour number two with Michael Malice in studio for two hours.

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48:17 Reporting for InfoWars, this is Greg Reese. Is our guest here for the next two hours, maybe longer in studio with us today. You can find him at michaelmalice.com on twitter at Michael Malice and he's got a book that I've been working on for several years. The White Pill, A Tale of Good and Evil, Michael Malice. And it couldn't be a more timely book. He started writing it, I know he told me about it years ago, before the

48:58 the Russian invasion of Ukraine and so much more. So this is a really important book to read. Those that don't know history are doomed to repeat it. I haven't read the book yet, and I'll assure you I will be reading the book. So he shared with us, so he said he could cover the waterfront, the censorship, all the things that are going on. I said, let's just first try to give you the floor as best we can and describe the book and your family's own experiences coming to the United States to flee all this tyranny, both from Hitler on one side and Stalin on the other. And now what it's like to see this nightmare starting again in the very same place, Ukraine. So it's great to have you here. Congratulations on The White Pill. I know you've written a lot of other bestselling books.

49:44 I would guess this one took you the longest to write? Yeah, because there's so much information in there because this book tells the story of the rise of the Soviet Union and its fall, which is a happy ending. But one of the other things that's very important to talk about, it was the Western response by all this was going on. So I think a lot of people, especially people in your audience, don't maybe have an appreciation of just how bad things were. just how much people were apologizing for historically speaking. So what I go through step by step is people in America and people in the West, we talk about totalitarianism, we talk about, Alex, you talk about the globalists and their agenda. There is an understanding of things would get really bad, but we don't have to imagine what things would be bad, what that would look like. because it's already happened here on Earth in our lifetimes of everyone listening to this. And it was systemic,

50:34 And it was step by step, Stalin, let him start of course Stalin built on it and others after them to kind of create a giant prison state. And I talk about just what steps they did. One of the biggest things that people need to appreciate in any variant of totalitarianism is any kind of private relationship is a threat to those in power. So parents versus kids, husbands versus wives, friends versus each other, coworkers. Their goal is to create a society where no one can trust anyone else, and they have to rely on the government for everything. And in many ways, they largely succeeded with the fact of the Soviet Union. But the important thing to take away is they didn't get everything they wanted. They told people for decades, this is the country of the future. This is how it's going to be. We're the next wave.

51:29 And they fell apart very, very quickly and everyone thought this is gonna be forever. If you watch Star Trek, Chekhov is there because even in the far, far future, you're gonna have the Westerners or you're gonna have the Soviets with Chekhov. That's not what ended up happening. So I think one of the reasons I also, besides just telling that history, which I think is crucially important, is so many people in the West and especially in America have given up hope. They think the people who are their enemy are too powerful. They've been at this too long. They're too smart. They're too clever. And it's like, we've heard this story before. If you know they're lying about everything else, why are you so convinced they're telling the truth when they tell you that their victory is inevitable and that they're not going away and that you can't defeat them? That is the biggest lie that they tell. And so many people who would otherwise oppose them fall into that trap of believing them on that very crucial issue.

52:18 By the way, I didn't talk to you before you came on live today. You got here in the green room and you just came out and came on live. But I was struggling to try to define you. And once you started talking, I would describe you, because I'm somewhat of a novice historian, so I know people when they know what they're talking about and when they don't. I would describe you as a pro-human person that's anti-totalitarian, anti-authoritarian, individual, hyper-scientific, Libertarian, a anarchist? Yes, I'm an anarchist. But how you quantify this, because what you just said is so key, I want to zoom in on this and have you elaborate.

52:55 Tyranny is not all powerful. I want you to think it is and invest this mythic power. I'm not that articulate. I'm not that great. My audience, you know, together is amazing, but we're not God. But if they're so scared of info wars, or they got to censor everybody, they're not that powerful. That's why the internet famous saying nobody knows who coined it. The propaganda would not be necessary if the situation was hopeless. It's not hopeless. That's why you're saying you're white belt. That's one. And right. And there's the other thing that I want people to take away is There's a lot of people who have the belief that journalists used to be honest and now they're corrupt. And let me give you an example that's kind of a parallel. If you think back to when you were a kid, right? You think no one's drinking, no one's doing drugs, no one's sleeping around. Cuz you're a kid, you're in kindergarten, you're oblivious to all these things. Then you get older, you go to college, then it's more frequent and you're gonna have the perception that this is becoming more common. It's not becoming more common, you're just more aware of it as you age. Same thing with journalism.

53:50 We're taught in school about the Spanish-American War, William Randolph Hearst, yellow journalism, remember the main and how the journalists led us into that war. Then there's kind of this record scratch and all the journalists become honest. And now conservatives, many conservatives think, well, they've just become corrupt in the last 20 years. No, no, no, no. One of the things I explain in this book, this has been going on for over a century. Most crucially, when Stalin was starving millions of Ukrainians by design, when people were Not able to feed their kids when they were ransacking their homes to make sure they didn't have any food all with two exceptions of the Western journalists made it a point to cover for these atrocities and later they admitted that oops We got it wrong Here's the thing if I'm a journalist and I get it wrong when it comes to the deaths of millions of people You would think there'd be like

54:42 If I was a chef and I undercooked chicken and someone died, you'd think there'd be a lot of hand wringing, maybe I'm in the wrong line of work. There is never this kind of self-reflection of what am I doing wrong? How did I screw this up so badly? So I think it's crucial for people to understand, and I lay out the receipts in this book, that for over 100 years, Every single atrocity, the gulags, the Holodomor, the show trials, every single atrocity committed by the Soviet Union had Western reporters tripping over, and influencers, not just reporters, actors, writers, tripping over themselves to tell the American people, you don't understand, these

55:20 The Russians are great, you're backwards, you have these anti-communist prejudices. And this is the way we should have America be going toward. So they've been at this for a very long time. And to your point, you're just some loud mouth with a studio in Texas. And yet you by yourself are causing nationwide and international problems. That to me speaks to the weakness. If I'm trying to construct a narrative that is not based in reality, let's suppose I cheated my wife a lot. right? She's just got to catch me once and my whole situation collapses. So when you point out day after day, all the not just mistakes, but lies that are being promulgated daily by the corporate press, it becomes so easy to demonstrate to critical thinking people that this is systemic and this is by design.

56:13 Beautifully said and let's be clear because you're criticizing Russian tyranny. You're not a rusifobe We're just looking at the evils in America the evils in Ukraine the evils in Russia. This is a real retrospective So we don't repeat it again, which we are now, but you make a good point for those that don't know history or forgot it First Stalin was bad then World War two comes he's good and then he's bad again. It's a perfect 1984 what George Orwell was writing about where they're just shifting who the good guys and bad guys are on a routine basis. Yeah, and it's really kind of disturbing to me how, you know, it's very easy to make the case that, look, Hitler's the ultimate evil, we gotta team up with the devil to stop Hitler. You can make that argument pretty easily. And that's kind of alluded to when we're taught history in high school.

56:55 But it's never explained just what Stalin did, just how bad he was, just what he did to his own people and what he built on with Lenin. There's this big kind of lie which I dissect in the book and demonstrate to be false that Lenin was good and Stalin basically perverted it or if Trotsky had been charged, it wouldn't have been as bad. This is complete nonsense. Everything that Stalin put into place had been originated under Lenin's system, the secret police, the gulags, turning people against one another. It's all been there. And it's all being repeated again. If they had their druthers, that's the thing. I do not hold to this belief that those who I regard as the enemies of liberty are always going to get their way. Because here's the proof. If that were true, no one listening to this show would have a gun. If they had their way, handguns would be illegal in this country. And that's why you're white-pilled. And I agree. We're winning and turning the tide. But I want people to know, Empire's gonna strike back.

57:52 These people are not weak, they have no shame, they have no remorse. But the point is they're much closer to snakes than they are to gods. Damn well said, we'll be right back. Stay with us, Michael Malice in studio. Now listen up, she's a razor sharp and she'll get her way. She'll slice you apart. Well, she's a cool, cool black. And if you get her name, well, you might not make it back. Got the looks that kill.

58:36 Well, Michael Malice is a smart cookie and you should give people some of your background in history. Speaking to this is when I see your podcast, I watched all the time. So as my family, you know what you're talking about. And And it's amazing, but the good news is we are winning. Tyranny can be defeated. There are ways to defeat it, but we have to first recognize it. Please continue. Do you know what Ronald Reagan said before he was elected president? He sat down and they were discussing the Cold War. And Ron DeSantis just invoked this in his speech at CPAC, and this is one of the key points of the book. And he said to his aide, he goes, let me tell you my strategy for the Cold War. It is simple and some may say simplistic. Here it is. We win, they lose. What do you think about that? And they laughed in his face.

59:20 They said that he is threatening us to get us into nuclear war, that he's a lunatic. He doesn't know what he's talking about. He's seen all he's a moron. Ten years later, 11 years later, this evil empire that spanned half the globe no longer ceased to exist. And one of the reasons I wrote this book, which I think is so key, is that this was a big victory for the West. And it was done relatively peacefully. We have monuments, understandably, to Vietnam War. We have monuments to World War II, where so many people gave their lives. But the Cold War, which was won basically without firing a shot, without the loss of of millions of lives and so much bloodshed. It's forgotten and no one discusses it. You can't- Because they hate it. And you can't expect the New York Times to tell this story. Well, it turned out Herbert Walker Bush, who was his vice president, didn't like it because they wanted that foreign enemy. Absolutely. Herbert Walker Bush told Gorbachev in writing, no one wants to see

1:00:12 Disintegration of the Soviet Union, or I forgot what the exact word he used, something to that effect. So they wanted to have that bipolar world where we're the good guys, they're the bad guys, and that justifies any kind of military buildup possible. And any restraints on Western freedoms possible. William F Buckley, who I'm still pissed that you have his picture up in the green room, and that every guest to this show has to look at his face. had said we need dictatorship here in the West to fight the dictatorship in the East temporarily. By the way, I'm no follower of William F. Buckley. Bring me the photo right now. Can you just put it in the bathroom where it belongs, please? No, a listener mailed that to us. You could hang it in the bathroom. And most of the stuff on the walls, listeners mailed us, okay? So we're not like museum curators going, this is a symbol of who we are. It was just a piece of history and that's why we have it. I'm gonna give it to you. I don't want it.

1:01:04 No, no, I'm gonna give it to you. You may keep it or torture it or whatever you want. Bring it to me. Bring it to me. No, no, no, but getting serious here. There's no special secret message in it, but I get what you're saying. Here's where I'm at. We have corporate interests that want us to stare into the abyss of Russia and China right now. Yes. In the name of defeating them, we become them. You just talked about that. How do we thread the needle on that? Well, I think the most important thing, this was crucial to bringing down the Soviet Union. It's crucial to helping what's happening in North Korea right now, which is my other bailiwick. Yeah, you take it as a hostage. It's yours. It's a gift. God help us. Okay. Oh, it's heavy. That's yours now. Oh, my skin's burning just touching it. And the name of the show speaks to this, information.

1:01:47 It's not necessarily a matter of having the weapons. It's not necessarily a matter of having the numbers. It's a matter of having enough people understanding what is being going on and the motivations behind them. Now, I wanna talk to people at home for them to appreciate what we're up against. Because if someone is blue pilled, and we can talk about all the pills in a second, meaning someone is blue pilled is that they believe that what is on the news is by and large true and in their best interest. Imagine sitting someone down, and trying to tell them that the weatherman is lying. Not just incorrect sometimes, but is lying. They would look at you as a crazy person. But when you try to explain to someone that most of corporate media is based on an agenda and the people have no problem being dishonest, they look at you in the same exact way. So that's what you're up against.

1:02:33 Once you take that red pill you realize oh these are corporations Corporations have an agenda that agenda is often not in the favor of the citizenry or or or even the people working there all of a sudden a lot of things start to make laws about to say I don't get much pushback now, and I don't talk about myself It's a it's a gauge most folks aren't a public figure I went from almost nothing but love before Trump But it was only like every 30th person. I walk. I was a listener then Then under Trump, I would get mobbed but about 5%, 10% were hate, but still mainly love. Now I go all over the country nothing but love, people get there being lied to. I think we've reached a tipping point. Yeah, and here's the other thing. A lot of times people are depressed cuz they're like, the majority of people aren't gonna ever come around to our land thinking, it doesn't take a majority.

1:03:16 Cuz the majority are just gonna be on the bandwagon. So one year they're gonna be hardcore George W. Bush fans, the next year they're gonna be Obama fans. They're just gonna go with the tide. All it takes is a significant informed minority dedicated- I agree. So how would you quantify and describe the moment history we're in right now? I agree with you completely that this is an inflection point. The fact that you have even one social media site where corporate journalists aren't protected and felt safe, this is unprecedented. And this is wonderful because on Twitter, they will spread their lies and immediately dozens of citizens will call them out on their depravity.

1:03:54 Yes, it has to but it's called totalitarianism for a reason. It has to have total control. Here's the thing, if the worst thing you could say about America is that you go to school and you learn some stupid things that aren't true and everything else is fine, we could take that as a compromise, right? The point is they have to be in your music, in your supermarket, in your bedroom, they have to be everywhere. God, that sounds exhausting. I can't even run my own life, much less, what is it about totalitarians and these globalists? Throughout history, they want to run everything in control, but that sounds hellish. But the other thing is, Alex, which is important, it's also expensive. You said it was exhausting. If I'm going to run every aspect of everyone's life, that

1:04:34 That costs me a lot in terms of emotional cost, people pushing back, financial cost, technological cost. Whereas you could just lead them with a better system. But it's also the fact that this is why they're vulnerable. Cuz the more money and more effort it takes for me to maintain my system, the harder it is for me to sustain it. People have this idea that if China had this big empire over the world, as they certainly would wanna do, that it would be easy for them. It's not. These giant empires are not structurally sound. Well, just like Hitler or just like the Japanese in World War II, they expanded because they were collapsing internally. Right, you have to keep, it's the kind of thing where it's like Wile E. Coyote runs off the cliff and then when he looks down he falls because he realized gravity's there. You can't keep these things going on infinitely because at a certain point, like Thatcher said, she's on the cover of the book, the problem with socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money.

1:05:23 We gotta go to break again, longer segment's coming up. But again, inflection point, so we're at a crossroads. I think we're at a major crossroads. And I do wanna talk about Trump after the break, cuz he said some things recently that I think I wanna hear your thoughts on. Absolutely, but in the minute we have left, tell people about the book where they get it. Ypillbook.com, and I've been delighted by, I was outselling Pompeo, Mike Pompeo. So when you have a situation like that, surely that's room for hope. Yeah, Pompeo is truly a bad person. Yes. So Recently, he was attacking Trump for policies that he helped formulate. I mean, that's wow. That's like- I think the Republican Party are delusional because they believe the corporate media narrative that once Trump goes away, they're gonna return to normal. And if you look at the base of the GOP, they have no hunger.

1:06:08 for going on. They are totally populist radicalized now. There's no hunger for 2015, zero. And if Mike Pence and Nikki Haley think they've got a shot, maybe they could get a shot at the nomination if the establishment puts it in their favor. They're being booed everywhere. But they're being booed to their face and they don't know how to handle it, except for being this corporate politician and pretend it's not happening. Okay, we're taking the white pill with Michael Malice straight ahead. Stay with us. Infowars.com forward slash show is the coordinates of freedom. Infowars.com, banned out video. With the great Michael Malice. Let me tell you a little story about censorship. We'll get more into this in the next hour with Michael Malice. But since they banned us four years ago, they ban any even sub URL we use to push people to InfoWars.com or ban.video. And so sometimes they ban stuff in a week, sometimes they go three months. We've had dozens of URLs since this happened. But about a month ago, we created conspiracyfact.info that would take you to InfoWars.com

1:07:04 Ford slash show so our guests and other people that are coming on can say hey, I'm going live on the show. Here's the URL Well, Rosie and Barb was gonna be in studio Saturday as she was and so I went live at noon She was gonna be on at one before the show. We checked conspiracy fact on info. You could post a link to Twitter I said, hey, that's the link to post blah blah blah She puts it out wouldn't let her put it out won't let you put it out now conspiracy fact on info. So I The new URL and where we have thousands of they try to ban these the new URL will put it on screen for you right now is madmaxworld.tv because with them creating all the crime and letting it flourish all we're entering a Mad Max world with the energy being cut off that's what caused the fictional Mad Max novel you know where the energy's cut off oil runs out madmaxworld.tv

1:07:55 We'll take you directly to Band.video and share any link, it creates its own URLs, and for now that is a link they're not banning, madmaxworld.tv. Michael Malice, please continue. Well, I'm just, is there a whole, what is the point of this? Because again, are they just trying to play whack-a-mole with you? They could just, if they knock off one URL, a URL costs $10 to create. What is their purpose? As long as listeners get excited and promote it, they lose, exactly. Yeah, I mean- They're trying to exhaust us, we gotta exhaust them. But that's just, I mean, if I wanted to take down Alex Jones, like this is another, it just speaks to my point, like this is all you've got that you're gonna knock off a URL, cost him 10 bucks, okay. So you just change the URL, it just takes two seconds. If they had their druthers, this show wouldn't exist, and that you'd be vanished into some gulag. This is another reason why it's important for people to have perspective.

1:08:43 and not lose hope. They're putting everything that they had against you to shut you and this show up. And here we are having a nice conversation. We agree on a lot of things, we disagree on a lot of things and it's perfectly fine. The only people that should be bothered by this are those in power. Well, we're really evil. We're criticizing Stalin and Lenin and Hitler. Yeah, right. Yeah, my God. Well, no, no, no. Hold on. There's a chapter in this book about someone who I know you know a lot about and is gonna raise the dander on the back of your neck and that's Henry Wallace. So, Henry, people in this country are, you're not taught this in school. Henry Wallace was Roosevelt's FDR's second vice president. He was very close to not literally Stalin, but Stalinist operatives.

1:09:25 He went to visit a gulag. He went to visit all the way in Siberia. They put on a literal song and dance for him, the prisoners. And they took him around, because he was former, he had a background in agriculture. They take him to a pig farm and he's asking him, oh, how are you raising these pigs? Now, the people operating the pig farm weren't the prisoner farmers, they were operatchiks. So they just didn't know what to answer him, so the translators had to cover. So he's, and he comes back. And he says, there's no two countries more alike than the United States and the Soviet Union. And it's like a new wild, he says, it's like a wild west. All of these Russians are moving to Siberia. It's just a new frontier for them. Well, they're moving there because they were all arrested for no reason. And they're all prisoner slaves having to- You said that would raise my hackles. I totally agree with you. Well, no, no. I'm just mentioning Henry Wallace's name. It's just one of those names where like he's not household knowledge, but he should be more prominent.

1:10:20 And it, the other thing is there was a woman, Eleanor Lipper and others who were prisoners on the other side of the fence. They were there. And when she escaped, cause she was a foreign national, wrote a book about it. He looked like a complete fool. And in 1952, which would have been the last of his second term, if he had been elected president, as he had tried to do when he ran against Truman and Dewey in 1948, he admitted up Communism's evil. It's like yeah, you're saying this now eight years in but you were a complete fool for this and God That's kind of like poison shots We were this close to having Henry Wallace be president because it's what like a hundred days into FDR's fourth term that Truman got sworn in so people don't appreciate just how bad things could have been in the past and that's another reason why I'm so hopeful about the future go ahead absolutely well, I was just gonna say that

1:11:09 I forgot what I was gonna say, but it is an amazing moment to be alive right now. Well, absolutely. But again, so much of what we are taught in popular consciousness and in school is just a very narrow sliver of history. And it's designed, in many cases, to demoralize Americans. And to see them in a certain kind of path, to make them think that the rise of the state is inevitable. And that progress means the growth of government and the loss of liberties. They've been singing this song for 100 years. And as long as I have breath in my body, they're not gonna have their way. And hopefully everyone listening to this will agree with me on that regard. So projecting the research and the history of your book and your own family history, what is your view on the conflict in Ukraine?

1:11:54 I am completely ignorant about this. Here's my view, because people have this idea because I was born in Ukraine. I left there when I was one half that I'm going to have some kind of inside knowledge. What I do know a lot about is North Korea. And my big concern is the parallels to the Korean War, because you had in the north, you had the Chinese and the Russians. In the south, you had the US and the UN. The Korean people were the ones who lost that war. Everyone else was a tie. The country was leveled. They were bombed to oblivion. All the things that were left were like chimneys. And just these entire countrysides were laid to ruin. And my big fear, my big fear is for the Russian people and for the Ukrainian people that this is going to be a proxy war and the Ukrainian people are going to pay the price. Exactly, they're the losers, the war is bad. Right, and anytime you have all this pressure on Zelensky or Ukrainians not to kind of reach some compromise. And I can understand the argument like, you're not gonna validate aggression. And Thatcher was very big on this with the Falklands when Argentina invaded. You can't negotiate with people who aggress. Point being-

1:12:51 At what cost and are you just going to fund the Ukrainians until they're completely destroyed? Are you planning on taking Putin out? What's that going to look like? It's certainly not going to be easy to do. And we just showed some footage of US weapons. being delivered to Poland to be delivered into Ukraine. They confirm, I mean, this is insane. But here's my big concern. At a certain point, if you are funding a war in Ukraine as an American, at what point does America and American assets become legitimate targets for the Russians, right? At a certain point, if you're funding this war and you're funneling weapons there, you can understand why Putin is going to hit New York or something else. It would make perfect sense for him to do that. I don't have any information about what's going on over there, but I do have concerns, and those are my concerns. Well, my concerns are, I'm not a Russian, I'm not a Ukrainian.

1:13:40 And I see that both sides have historical beefs with each other. Sure, with good reason. Yeah. But the east of Ukraine, it's mainly Russian. And if the Russians were putting troops on our border, we would be really, really upset. And so if Putin was putting troops in Canada or Mexico, I'd be upset. And so now that NATO is openly involved, I even saw a CNN report and a Washington Post report and a New York Times report going, oh my God, All the dead Russians are making the Russians want more war. Well, of course, I mean, this is escalating. They need experts to tell them that? That's just history. Yeah, but I think the bloodlust by the corporate press for war cannot be overstated. There has not been a war that they don't like. If it bleeds, it leads is kind of that slogan. That is my concern. The New York Times,

1:14:29 very long time has had a history of being. It's just funny because if you read, most people think, okay, New York Times is left, left is anti-war, conservatives and pro-military, pro-war. Then New York Times has been the biggest outlet for warmongering. That would make the biggest war hawk in the Republican Party blush. Back to the Spanish-American War. Yes, and the thing is they could do it shamelessly because they can say, we're the lefties, so we're not really pro-war. It's such a con job and it's just very disheartening to see how many people fall for it. And my, again, like you just said earlier, I want peace and I want people to be safe and secure in their own homes and not have to worry about bombs flying.

1:15:09 people becoming orphans. And what's your gut tell you? Cuz they're saying this war is gonna last years now. God, I don't know what my gut is telling me. And I don't think Biden is a strong leader to put it mildly. I don't know what the forces are behind that White House. But it seems very, very clear that all the pressure is on continuing this war as much as possible, which is just very disturbing to see. All right, I wanna shift gears out of that. Now I wanna go back to White Pill. Why you're optimistic, I am too. Cuz as bad as things are, the amount of people not buying the system is better than ever. I don't think we can just oppose the corrupt globalist system. We've got to create something new. Yes, I think that's a great way of looking at it. The white pill is to be precise, I'm gonna be a little pedantic. The white pill isn't optimism, the white pill is hope. And if you're going to sit here and tell me that as Americans, our journey toward freedom and taking our country back is hopeless, I don't wanna talk to you. All right, let's talk about it when we come back. Yep. So Michael Malice,

1:16:05 was rightfully complaining about my William F. Buckley picture that Alissa sent us that we hung on the wall. Just as interesting, we have all sorts of interesting photos here. But I said, what do you want to use as white-pilled examples when we come back of global awakening against tyranny? He said, I want to talk about East Germany versus West Germany, East Berlin versus West Berlin. I said, well, I've got a photo, I've got a picture that's actually mine. My mother came back from Germany probably, she's been there many times, 20 years ago. and she was at a museum about the fall of the Berlin Wall. We got a boom operator in here, we can show you this. And it's a photo, a famous photo when the Berlin Wall, a few years before it fell, where a child went through with their parents, we got caught in the barbed wire, and then an East German soldier took the child, saved the child, got them through, but that East German soldier disappeared, and no one knew whatever happened to him. Here, I can do it this way, so it's gonna have a boom. Bravo, there you go. So this is where we are, ladies and gentlemen.

1:17:03 And this is one of the photos on the wall that's actually one of mine. What people don't appreciate, I think a lot of people don't realize, the Berlin Wall, Berlin isn't in the center of East and West Germany. It's entirely enclosed in Eastern Germany. So when they built the wall, they surrounded the entire half of the city. And it was a bizarre prison in that the people who were imprisoned were the free ones. If you were a member, a citizen of West Berlin, that's part of West Germany, it was not contiguous with the liberal democratic West Germany.

1:17:50 An officer, Conrad Schuman, as they were trying to build the Berlin Wall and imprison the citizens of West Berlin. And it would be his job if someone's trying to cross this wall to shoot them. And he's this young kid, and he's like, I can't do this. I cannot shoot my countrymen just because they're trying to cross the street. So there was a photographer there who's watching him, seeing him like, wait a minute, what's this guy up to? A guy used to photograph horses, so he knew how to have that exact kind of reflexes. And the moment Schuman jumped the fence, he got the shot. The West Berlin people, cops got him into a car, trafficked him to freedom. And it was just this beautiful, happy ending, but it's just this amazing moment. And that caused the chain reaction, so as

1:18:32 Russell Brand comes out against the New World Order and as Elon Musk comes out against the New World Order, as Joe Rogan comes out against the New World Order and the Globalist. This is a microcosm of that. People jump on the fence. But it's also the idea that there's so many of us who maybe are in positions to do the wrong thing. And just to remind you that you still as a human being have a conscience and the opportunity to do the right thing. There's another great story, Hans Meixner, M-E-I-X-N-E-R, and he fell in love with a girl from East Berlin. And he's like, all right, I'm gonna marry this girl, but I gotta get her the heck out of East Germany. So he goes to checkpoint Charlie, which is the big crossing point between the two halves of the city. And he realizes that that bar which they raised for a car to go through is not that tall.

1:19:17 So he gets a British car, puts her in the back seat, puts the future mother-in-law in the trunk, surrounds her with bricks in case they start shooting, takes off the windshield, takes some air out of the tires. And when they appoint him to go to the next spot, he just floors it like the Matrix. The car goes under that bar and he escapes with her and the future mother-in-law to freedom in West Berlin and married her. So the answer to tyranny is stop complying. But the answer also is we all have the ability in our own little personal ways to fight and find for our freedom even in the most unfree situation. And I gotta tell you, as bad as things often are in America, and as bad as it would be if those who I oppose would have their druthers, we still have a lot of opportunity, all of us, to do something and move the needle in the right direction. So I haven't read the book yet. It's examples in Russia and East Germany and everywhere.

1:20:10 in Europe, but what about white pill moments here? I see Elon Musk three weeks ago at the World Government Forum put on by the World Economic Forum, calling for total tyranny and plentiful chips, total tracking, universal credit score, all of this. And there's Elon Musk saying, no, the new world order is bad, centralization is bad, we shouldn't have, I mean, I'm seeing just big defeats of them. Bill Maher comes out against all the policies, I mean, it's happening. Can anyone listening to this with a straight face Look at John Fetterman and Kamala Harris and say, these are unstoppable foes. We can't win against people who are this impressive. It's a joke when you realize the thing is, it's not that they're particularly impressed or particularly smart. They've been at this for a lot longer and they've built up this edifice for a long time. But that does just because you're starting on third base does not at all guarantee you're gonna have that home run, especially and as a result of COVID.

1:21:06 So many more people are aware of what we're up against, how low they'll be willing to go. And the point that I think Republicans especially, they always talk about like Reagan and Tip O'Neill. We're gonna sit down together, everyone's gonna shake hands at work. I think now people are realizing gun control is a good example. These people aren't arguing in good faith. They don't really wanna have safety. They wanna have- because we know it's not a compromise. There's nothing to compromise because as soon as they get the AR-15s, instantly, it's going to be let's go after this gun or let's go after handguns. And I think everyone who is pro-gun rights has come to this realization in the last 10 years at least. So you know Elon Musk, you and Joe have gone out, he hangs with him a lot. They're having a little event tomorrow, I'm told. But the point is, is that Elon Musk, whether he's good or bad, he realizes the pendulum's going towards freedom, so he's jumped over to it. So we just see that as a good sign.

1:21:56 I'll take whatever hope I can get because if you don't have hope, you cannot win. If you don't have a vision of what you're fighting for, you cannot possibly... And I said that earlier, we can't just oppose them. What do we stand for? So what do we stand for or what do you stand for? What should we aspire to as the alternate system, A and B, what is it to be white pill? Because I agree, it's not like some, oh you're naive, almost like a blue pill, you think everything's fine. No, no, you just have optimism and hope for humanity. Nor do I, and 75% of this book, nor am I of the belief that human beings are basically good. And that those who are in power, they only just wanna kind of raise taxes and have regulation. The people who are in power are pure evil. You can't put anything past them. The things that they do to children historically and in present times are things I would never sit down and think of in a million years. But the point being they are not omnipotent and they're not unstoppable. And there's many, many examples which you talk about all the time, where they just take L after L after L. The fact that people are now campaigning on imprisoning Fauci.

1:22:57 which would have been an unspeakable taboo a couple of years ago, in and of itself speaks to how much free speech, despite attempts to the contrary. 500,000 person demonstrations in Germany, 200,000 in Britain, huge ones here. The media ignores it, but the people know it's happening. And the other thing is like you were pointing out, If you are else or infinite, you can make as many URLs as you want. Back in the day, there were three channels, CBS, ABC, NBC. If those three channels agreed not to talk about you, you don't exist. Now you are demonstrating just today. There are infinite channels. You could have, yeah, they're gonna block one URL. Okay, here's $10, here's another URL. That's the best you can do. So just that progress in the last 30 years alone shows how difficult it is for the enemy class to control the conversation. And that's another reason why people should all be hopeful. If the people have energy, if they care, if they stand up, guys, I'd ask you to print this up. You probably did put on my desk, but print me the Oh, how we burn in the camps quote by Sultan Eatson.

1:23:54 And what's the full social media quote? I can't remember the exact quote, but we know they know, they know we know. We know they're lying. They know they're lying. They know we know they're lying, but still they're lying. I think it's something to that effect. And I don't think that quote applies to America. Because if you look at corporate journalists on Twitter, that's my preferred social media site. They are shocked. by the pushback they get from average people. They really think that they're respected and liked, but nowadays, especially after COVID, when they'd be filming wearing a mask, but the cameraman doesn't have a mask, and anyone with a cell phone could just film and show that as soon as the cameras goes off, they take the masks off, that these people are-. They're so naive. It's actually, it makes me feel bad that they're dominating us. Like you said, these people are a joke. But again, they're dominating us because they had so many years in the past to kind of- So they're running off stuff in the bank?

1:24:44 Don't you think? I agree. Here it is. The rulers are simple. They lie to us. We know they're lying. They know. They know we know they're lying. But they keep lying to us and keep pretending to believe them. And we keep pretending to believe them. Yeah. Yeah, the rulers are simple. They lie to us. We know they're lying. They know we know they're lying. But they keep lying to us and we keep pretending to believe them. But I don't. But that's the thing in the Soviet Union. You had to pretend to believe that. Right. Because if I'm in the Soviet Union and I discuss this heavily in the book, I can't say that the newspaper profit is full of crap, cuz that's gonna be trouble for me and my family. No one has repercussions for going on Facebook or talking to their friends and family being like, the New York Times is full of crap. The Washington Post is just propaganda. And that is-. Exactly, so we're far from where other people have been. We better fight now or we're gonna go there. I agree with you, right, exactly. And again, stop getting intimidated by completely unimpressive people.

1:25:42 Like Fetterman. Like Fetterman. Well, I actually sent him money because I want the Senate to look as much like Arkham Asylum as possible. And my hope is that one day he's gonna be on the Senate floor and his head just explodes. We'll come back and talk about that second hour about to begin. Why are we seeing Bidens and Fettermans and others that can't even talk? Is that on purpose or is it a manifestation of the crumbling, rotting edifice of the establishment? We're right back, second hour, Michael Malice, the new book, The White Pill, get it today. We'll be right back, stay with us. Infowars.com and the new URL madmaxworld.tv. That's the new URL, the destination of freedom, madmaxTV, madmaxworld.tv. Right now, I'm not talking to the viewers and listeners that have gone to infowarsstore.com and gotten the great products that enrich your life, that empower your immune system and your body and keep us on air. I am humbly

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1:27:20 All right, Michael Malice, bestselling author, hit podcaster is our guest in studio on the Alex Jones show. Next segment, he wants to talk about Donald Trump and some of his statements the last few weeks. But right now, a lot of people call into the show or I see him comment on InfoWars. Jones is a coward. He doesn't want to lead a violent revolution. Well, the average cop or Justice Department person or whoever, they're like part of the system, but they're not running it. How does killing them do something that would bring in martial law? I want to win a velvet revolution of ideas. That's where 90% of real war happens. This is the info war. Michael Malice, where's your view on that? I agree through 10,000%, which defies mathematics.

1:27:57 If you have violence in the street, if we saw this with the BLM riots, that is the easiest and most effective method for people who don't care about politics to be like, I just need this to end. And to validate martial law, to validate restrictions on freedom. If you think the Patriot Act is a problem now, imagine what happens if there's some kind of a failed violent revolution. And they've been trying to get that just off January 6th and opening the gates up. They're trying to brand all dissenters as terrorists right now. Look what they did to the Freedom Convoy in Canada. These are truckers who were just honking their horns and they pulled them away to God knows where, invoked emergency powers. Listen, if the government can invoke emergency powers, it's gonna create emergencies to invoke them. So I think- And we know they have provocateurs to do it, so let's not do it. Yeah, I think the call to violence is really

1:28:42 And the other thing is violence sings its own song. So once that kind of genie's out the bottle, you don't know where it's gonna end up. I think that's a very dangerous idea. I think as long as there's free speech in this country, which despite the mechanisms, you could still get your voice out there. Well, look at Russia and Ukraine. The globalists just sit back and roast hot dogs on the fire. Yeah, yeah. And the people who are the dangerous ones aren't the ones who are gonna be in the line of fire. They never are. So I think this is just absolutely a crazy thing to kind of normalize and discuss. That's why when I see news saying that I'm calling for violence when I say info war tip of the spear break their back I mean intellectually everybody knows that because the Pentagon admits 90% of war is intellectual of course and that's Another reason why hope is so important if you convince the population

1:29:25 that you're always going to be under the thumb of Washington. Why would you bother fighting? You're gonna save your time and spend time with your kids, because well, I can't win, so I might as well let them have what I want. So that is by far the most effective way to defeat your opponent, is to convince them that your victory is inevitable. And notice the anonymous people online saying we should be violent. They're not being violent. They want us to do it. Yeah, right. It's always somebody else who's gonna put their selves and their families in the line of fire and get themselves injured. But at what point, which we want to avert, Is violence authorized? When they're rounding us up or? I don't, we got a ways to go, I think. And I don't even like speculating about that. God help us if we get to that point.

1:30:03 God help them if we do. Well, yeah, yeah. But I mean, I think the more kind of this talk that's out there in the zeitgeist, the easier it is for them to kind of- No, I agree. They'll totally take it out of context. And they're also gonna fight for restrictions for gun rights, because then it's gonna be like, look, people are talking about vile revolution, even though the country was shot in a vile revolution. We can't let them have their guns. And Mitch McConnell- Well, I would follow our 1776 model. We tried for a decade to fix it. They came to confiscate the guns, they shot first. But we're not looking for that folks, cuz in a modern world, back then, info war was 20%, according to Pentagon, I agree with him. Now it's 90%. So informate, the pen's mightier than the sword more than ever. Use the damn pen before you talk about a war. And here's something else, I think people need to appreciate that Americans got, I mean, you're gonna not like hearing this. Aren't as pro freedom as you'd like to think, because the pushback against COVID was very, very weak given what you would think Americans would

1:30:57 put up with. And it's given some very evil people some very useful information about the limits of American compliance and it was- No, I agree. COVID was a test. It was a test. By design or not, they learned what they can get away with and what they can't. And what they learned is a lot of people were more than happy to be imprisoned in their own homes under threat of a virus. What do you think they're gonna hit us with next? I think things are going to start falling apart really quickly. I think they, here's the thing, the midterms didn't go the way that the Democrats would want, but they're not really taking their victory lap. And I think that's kind of intriguing to me. You would think they'd be like, look, we defeated the evil Republicans who were a threat to our democracy. This is all great.

1:31:39 quiet because I think they've got their guy Kevin McCarthy in there and he's gonna be able to make deals with Biden. I don't trust him as far as I could throw him, let alone McConnell, who certainly cares far more about Joe Biden's views than he does about the average American citizen. So I don't know where things are gonna go, but I'm very hopeful about the future because I think more Americans are realizing you're not gonna be saved by whoever's in the White House. As long as they can't trick us into race war violence. Right. And that knowing that Washington is not gonna save you, I think that is a big epiphany. I've got an example of that when we come back. Stay right there. There are of course those who do not want us to speak. We think just a mistake. Even now orders are being shouts into telephones and men with guns will soon be on their way. It's Chancellor Sattler. Damn it! Why? Because while the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power.

1:32:31 Words are for the means to meaning and for those who will listen the enunciation of truth. The truth is there is something terribly wrong with this country, isn't there? You designed it, sir. You wanted it foolproof. You told me every television in London. Cruelty and injustice, intolerance and oppression. And where once you had the freedom to object, to think and speak as you saw fit, you now have sensors and systems of surveillance coercing your conformity and selecting your submission. Cameras. We need cameras. How did this happen? Who's to blame? Well, certainly there are those who are more responsible than others. They will be held accountable. But again, truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror.

1:33:16 I know why you did it. I know you were afraid. Who wouldn't be? War, terror, disease? There were a myriad of problems which conspired to corrupt your reason and rob you of your common sense. Fear got the best of you, and in your panic, you turned to the now High Chancellor, Adam Sutler. He promised you order, he promised you peace, and all he demanded in return was your silent, obedient consent. There is a war. It's happening now. It will decide the fate of humanity. The time to choose sides has come. We are the resistance. We are the InfoWar. The answer to 1984 is 1776.

1:34:18 InfoWars has been banned, arrested, attacked and threatened because we are effective. The Great Awakening is here. Go to band.video. Download the videos and share. Support the Information War at infowarstore.com. And never give up the fight. All right, Michael Malice in studio, Paul Watson popping in on the big Breaking COVID news.

1:35:07 Michael, you want to talk about Trump and man I get dumbfounded. I like Robert Kennedy jr. Talking about running for president against Biden. I'd get behind him DeSantis done a lot of good stuff. I like DeSantis, but he's a little too pro-war for me There's some anti free speech stuff coming out of Florida right now. I'm really concerned about him if you're aware of that it's out of control but but but Trump Some of his statements. It's like a 20-minute clip won't play the whole thing, but you mentioned this I'd know about the clip, but I wouldn't found the transcript. It's true He made a very bizarre statement. So he gave a speech over the weekend saying you're gonna get retribution, we're gonna bring down the deep state. But then in another interview he said he's not gonna be out headhunting. Yeah, there was a clip when he was with Hugh Hewitt and for me I think the biggest reason people would want to support Trump from what I've heard from people in the audience that it's like all right, he's gonna get payback, right? He got wronged, Trump is a vindictive guy, he's petty, that's the argument people always say. He's gonna take down the deep state but when he was on Hugh Hewitt, he was asked about this explicitly. Do we have the clip or do we have a transcript of it?

1:36:08 We have the clip. Oh you guys were able to find out of a 20-minute clip great job crew You told him five minutes ago. My man found it Wow. I'm impressed. Here's a club. Well, they got it exactly wrong Well, they did get it wrong. But my question is if you're back in the oval Will you use the powers of the presidency to punish people who punished you? No, I wouldn't do that because Because I want to bring our country forward. No, I wouldn't do that. One of the best things you did when you ran the first time. People say nice words, but I wouldn't. I would be entitled to a revenge tour if you want to know the truth, but I wouldn't do that. I would want to straighten out our border. I would want to get inflation down, build our economy up, which is actually doing very poorly. You do have a potential disaster in your hands with the war. You also have a disaster with Kim Jong-un of North Korea.

1:36:58 I get along with him great. He always liked me. You saw that. And he doesn't like Biden at all. And he's, he's arming up and Iran is arming up and got to do something about it. One of the people who is going to declare for president this month, according to reports this morning is Nikki Haley. If she runs for president, what's your response? Okay. So there's Trump saying he's not gonna go after people. That was back on February 2nd. We have a new clip from Friday at one of his rallies saying the opposite. Here's that clip. And if you put me back in the White House, their reign is over. Their reign will be over. And they know it. And America will be a free nation once again. We're not a free nation right now. We don't have free press. We don't have free anything. In 2016, I declared, I am your voice. Today, I add, I am your warrior. I am your justice. And for those who have been wronged and betrayed,

1:37:55 I am your retribution. I am your retribution. Not gonna let this happen. Maybe he's saying this now he knows they're gonna indict him. Not gonna let it happen. I will totally obliterate the deep state. I will fire... So he needs to clarify this. He just said he won't go out of the deep state in February and then now In early March, he says he will. Michael Malice, good point you raised. Trump treated Anthony Fauci far better than he treated Steve Bannon or any of the January 6th protesters who got locked up in solitary for God knows how long. And for him to go on with a straight face and say, I'm not going to have retribution for people who have wronged me. This reminds me very much of 2001, Alex, I'm sure you remember this, you probably covered at the time when they were gonna go after Bill Clinton for perjury after he left the White House.

1:38:49 And the first thing George W Bush did as president was to put a kibosh on any kind of criminal prosecution of the former president and the first lady. Because he thought this was gonna divide the country, make us look bad. And it really sounds like Trump is saying the same thing out of his own words. And this isn't TDS talking, this is explicitly saying I'm not going to have retribution. It saddens me to hear him say this because if he's saying this now, it certainly sounds like he would do it as well. Well, it's very paradoxical. He's telling a radio show I'm not going to do it. And then he goes on a month later and says, I am. I can't think of any examples of him going after his political opponents as opposed to people who work for him. Try to do a good job. Instead, Jared Kusher gives them blowjobs.

1:39:36 I mean, can anyone think of a good example of Trump taking down one of his political opponents and causing consequences? The best example I could think of, which was actually very funny, was when Nancy Pelosi and all the Democrats were trying to use a military plane to go overseas to visit a military base. And he pulled their permission slip, and they had to drive the bus around, and then they had to go back home. So that was humorous. But in terms of crushing his opponents- No, he has a lot of big talk, but he didn't exercise power against the deep state at any level. He, right, he was very good at taking on Jeb Bush, John Kasich in the primaries and making sure they didn't get the nomination, credit to him. But in terms of using the powers of the White House to kind of disarm his opponents, I don't see it and I would love to be proven wrong.

1:40:18 So who do you like for the presidency? I don't think the presidency is going to be a very effective vector. Exactly. We don't need the EPA to tell us to boil our water or filter it. We should just do it ourselves. Right. And you have to, I think if people are expecting the person in the White House to be the mechanism by which this country is saved, I think that is a hopeless position because the system itself is too stacked against them, even if you had 50 Reagans or whoever the person might like. Why do you think Trump won't come out against the shot? That's his biggest downfall with the supporters. I can't think of any times other than when he got caught with that pussy grabbing video where he's acknowledged wrongdoing. I don't think it's in his character and frankly, I think as a politician that might be a smart move because once you apologize, they're never going to let you forget it. So I don't blame him for not back, like walking that back, but like what is he supposed to do at this point?

1:41:11 And the other thing is, he is being held to standards that his opponents aren't. Kamala Harris explicitly said she's not trusting the Trump vaccine. And five minutes later, once she's VP, if you don't take the shot, you shouldn't be allowed to enter the country. She says I'll never take a shot from Trump. Now you better take it or you're going to jail. Yeah, and your kids better take it too. It's ridiculous. Let's come back. I want to ask you, what would you advise Trump to do to save the country. We have Paul Watson popping in on this huge story. I'm sure you've seen this, Michael. But the head UK Minister of Health in these text messages, they confirm are real, saying, do we release the new variant to scare the pants off people? This is big. Yes, very. All right, Michael Malice. The White Pill is the new book available everywhere. We'll be right back with Michael Malice and Paul Joseph Watson of Summit News. Stay with us.

1:42:03 Well I want to say congratulations to Michael Malice. I've read his other books, can't wait to read The White Pill, A Tale of Good and Evil. Joining us now is Paul Joseph Watson and I appreciate him coming on with it as busy as he is at summit.news with the incredible 100,000 plus WhatsApp text of the head health minister Matt Hancock Talking about releasing a new variant. I don't think you release the variant literally, but releasing the fear and the scare the pants off people and how they talk about how to scare the public to make them submit to lockdowns following this whole script written by Fauci and Bill Gates in the UN, the WEF. Paul, this is so huge. It broke Friday, the telegraph, it's everywhere, thank God. But this is just crazy level stuff. You're there in the UK, your view on that situation?

1:42:57 Will you broke friday alex but this is part of a long running feature by the telegraph basically one of the journalist got hold of my hand cox text messages and by the way. This is a guy who before the pandemic even really set in january twenty twenty told his friend. This pandemic given that he was basically the public face of the response to it in the United Kingdom would propel him into the next league would basically turn him into a celebrity superstar. after the pandemic supposedly ended or at least the restrictions were lifted he's now become this reality tv star in the united kingdom he's basically trying to use this as a trampoline to send himself into the stratosphere as being you know the strong man the guy that responded to covid that saved the country

1:43:50 these messages of come out we kind of already knew part of this alexa me in fact have the stories back in twenty twenty one. Where the government advisor groups openly came out and said that they engaged in quote on ethical and totalitarian behavior right before the first lockdown the key function that they sought to fulfill What's the scare the public by grossly exaggerating the threat of cold even as far back as february march twenty twenty so they knew right from the beginning that it wasn't as bad as we were told it was all the lord propaganda told us that it was and this is now being confirmed with these one hundred thousand leaked whatsapp messages because i just said in the intro that

1:44:37 he openly talks and this by the way is right before the december twenty twenty lockdown which was the second full lockdown of the country they're struggling a bit politically people are starting to ask questions about the rollout of the vaccine the start to ask questions about the draconian clampdown on civil liberties with the lockdown They're starting to ask questions about other political issues that they want to distract from. So there you have Matt Hancock, the UK health secretary, saying that they need to deploy a new COVID variant to quote, brighten the pants off the general public and make sure they comply with lockdown. Now, of course, as you said, Matt Hancock's not there in the Wuhan lab cooking it up. They already knew the variant was coming.

1:45:24 and they deliberately politically chose the moment that they'd reveal it to the public despite as some of the other text messages show they were getting advice at the same time from some scientists, some researchers including the Imperial College of London showing them that the infections were actually decreasing that this was becoming less of a problem they deliberately chose to ignore that as part of what the media in this country is calling Project Fear, to fear and guilt the general public into obeying lockdown by only concentrating on these more severe alarmist paranoid modeling, which of course, as we now know, later turned out to be completely inaccurate. So every step of the way these leaked text messages show, they knew it wasn't as bad as they were telling the public it was,

1:46:15 I deliberately engaged in total and totalitarian methods of mind control they ignored the modeling which contradicted that public messaging. And basically they wanted to scare the public, to frighten the pants off the public into complete obedience and to shut down all dissent. And that's basically the nub of what these text messages tell us. And now the big question- So we were right once again. Exactly, we were right once again. So the big question, I'll ask you this then Michael Malice, what needs to come next? I mean, he needs to get in trouble and I'm not blaming the UK, I'm not an Anglo-French file him on an anglophobe, but clearly it was always the UK that kept announcing the new variants. It looks like whoever was advising him was quarterbacking the larger global fear. So to me, it's not what he did. It's asking him in depositions or lawsuits, who told you to do this? Who told you about the new variant? For me, this is a very important point. Like he's a capo. Who is the Don above him?

1:47:15 Well, I think one of the prime individuals in that context will be Professor Neil Ferguson. This is the guy who provided the base modeling that convinced the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom to lock down the country. Now, of course, I've made the point before, he personally took the lockdown, the first lockdown, when, you know, it was deadly serious. We were being told a what? 3.6 death rate or whatever right at the start, potentially. He took it so seriously, Alex, that while everyone else was locked inside their houses, told they couldn't go out, visit their loved ones' funerals, see their partners, whatever. He was shagging females at parties.

1:47:54 Yeah, he was traveling back and forth across London to shag his married mistress while everyone else couldn't even see their partner if they lived in a different house. So again, that tells you how seriously they were taking it because they knew it wasn't as bad as they were. And Boris Johnson was partying. So what comes next then? I think it will lead back to Neil Ferguson again. He was the guy who said we didn't think we could get away with this. We didn't think we could get away with what the Chinese were doing, but then we saw Italy doing it and we thought we could get away with it in his words. So I think obviously there's going to be this big public inquiry. It's probably going to be a whitewash in the UK, but again, you need to trace it back to Neil Ferguson and he links back to the WHO. No, I totally agree. That's why I asked you as an expert on this.

1:48:43 But for me, it's such a huge deal because it's gotten attention. We already could analyze this and see they did this, but now we have the smoking gun admissions. This has gotten the public's attention. Michael Malice, this is gonna scare the power structure. I agree with you, but here's the thing I find interesting. Let's play devil's advocate. Let's suppose all the COVID narrative was true and that everything was warranted and so on and so forth. What this demonstrates, and I think it's key, is that politicians, when they see an incentive to make themselves look good or to increase their power, they will take it. They're not these disinterested public servants.

1:49:19 They see like, whether it's Cuomo here, Ferguson over there or Matt Hancock, it's gonna be like, this is gonna make me look good. I get to be the hero. And they are always going to take that opportunity to decrease freedoms at the expense and further their own career and agenda. Even if everything they said about COVID were true, which of course is not. I agree. So anyway, you slice it, they're gonna power grab. right. And, and, and, and Pat themselves in the back for it. And you see it time and time again, Paul do one more segment with us. We're going to go 15 minutes. The next hour with our great host here who wrote the new book, the white pill. We're going to be talking to so many others as well into the next hour. Michael Malice is here, but Paul, what else do you want to hit next segment?

1:49:59 Just more on these leaks. There's more information about how they plan to lock up Nigel Farage, face masks and a bunch of different stuff related to the leaks of these messages. That's right. The media is focusing on him face sucking a married woman. Hey, he didn't hurt anybody. I'm not saying it's good, but I get it. I'm a man. I don't want to hear about that. I want to hear about locking people down. I want to hear about lying to the public and using military level psychology to control folks. Michael Malice is here. The White Pill, soon to be a best-selling book. Paul Joseph Watson with us as well. One more segment and then myself and Malice will continue on. Stay with us. PJW straight ahead.

1:50:35 All right. Final segment with Paul Joseph Watson, Michael Malza roll 15 minutes. The next hour with me and the great Gerald Salente will take over, but I got to give ballast this. He's been writing his book, the white pill for two years. I saw him in New York tears ago. He was already writing. He moved here a year and a half ago. The book is done. I haven't read the book yet, but just hearing what he's talking about is totally true from history. The white pills here. There are good people getting into the text messages of the British health minister to expose what a criminal he is. There's all these good people in the intelligence agencies and in corporations, in private life that aren't going to stand by and watch this. And if we just use the power we have now

1:49:59 Just more on these leaks. There's more information about how they plan to lock up Nigel Farage, face masks and a bunch of different stuff related to the leaks of these messages. That's right. The media is focusing on him face sucking a married woman. Hey, he didn't hurt anybody. I'm not saying it's good, but I get it. I'm a man. I don't want to hear about that. I want to hear about locking people down. I want to hear about lying to the public and using military level psychology to control folks. Michael Malice is here. The White Pill, soon to be a best-selling book. Paul Joseph Watson with us as well. One more segment and then myself and Malice will continue on. Stay with us. PJW straight ahead.

1:50:35 All right. Final segment with Paul Joseph Watson, Michael Malza roll 15 minutes. The next hour with me and the great Gerald Salente will take over, but I got to give ballast this. He's been writing his book, the white pill for two years. I saw him in New York tears ago. He was already writing. He moved here a year and a half ago. The book is done. I haven't read the book yet, but just hearing what he's talking about is totally true from history. The white pills here. There are good people getting into the text messages of the British health minister to expose what a criminal he is. There's all these good people in the intelligence agencies and in corporations, in private life that aren't going to stand by and watch this. And if we just use the power we have now

1:51:14 We're going to be able to reverse so much of this. So Paul pulling back from Matt Hancock, the UK health minister being totally caught fear mongering using British Ministry of Defense propaganda to quote mind control and terrorize people. Big picture, Fauci's being exposed for gain of function. All this news is coming out. European countries are banning the injection. Things are not going well for the new world order here, Paul. I'm not saying we're out of the fight yet. I'm not saying we've won yet. But if we were in a boxing match at the sixth round of 12 rounds, I think we just knocked the son of a bitch out. He may get back up, but I mean, I don't wanna declare victory yet, because humans aren't perfect. There'll be some new evil to deal with. But we always think of tyrants historically as malice as these invincible walls. But Stalin, Hitler, they're not invincible.

1:52:06 Well no, obviously it's always a game of brinksmanship. I think the white pill in terms of Covid is the fact that all these Covid fines for people who violated lockdown for going for a walk with a cup of coffee, that was one example, for walking their dogs in the remote countryside, basically every single fine that the government tried to impose on people was thrown out of court because no one paid them. They completely refused to pay them. You don't even need that level of resistance to upset the apple cart, to derail their agenda. So that's what we've seen in the- You said the key. We don't have to shoot people, which we don't want to do. We just have to stop complying. And demonstrate that they're not, they don't have the willpower to force compliance. That's the other key.

1:52:52 and fining people for driving into certain areas of the city is completely basically on the ropes now. You've got people ripping out surveillance cameras across the town of Oxford. We don't advocate that, but it just shows you the level of resistance and that it only needs to be relatively small scale. There are polls that show, for example, with this lockdown in the UK, 37% of Brits even now

1:53:31 which is a larger portion of the population than any who answer differently, say the government didn't lock down hard enough. So you've got to remember there'll always be this timid, gelded, scared segment of the population and it's at least a third of the population. But as you said, the minority doesn't matter. It's the highly animated minority that matters. And I don't believe that, Paul, but absolutely, Paul. Yeah, and again, this leak just is really embarrassing them and it's going to make it harder for them to try anything like this in the future. Just like the narrative on masks has been completely demolished now with even the New York Times basically coming out and I'm betting again, the conspiracy theorists were right all along. Masks had no effect. Well, that's another question. Why do you think he was CNN and New York Times propagandist or backpedaling?

1:54:20 I mean, I think they sense that there's a total reversal of their propaganda. Well yeah, they call it a COVID amnesty and the rats are starting to flee the sinking ship of the narrative. But again, their main weapon is and always has been fear. If they bring back a bird flu type situation, which they're now chattering about in the background, the sheer levels of fear could be used once again to induce this complete subservience within the population. But again, I think now there's enough people who will resist. It's too much of a bulwark for them to get their agenda rammed through. So that's That's what COVID has given us. I agree with bringing up bird flu, Marburg, monkey pox, none of it's working. Michael Malice. I'm also curious that if you ask the average blue pill person, meaning somebody takes the New York Times at face value, do they think the lockdowns actually slowed down the spread of COVID? Do they think the lockdowns are efficacious? And if so, why didn't they bring the lockdowns back?

1:55:14 for later variants. If you ask someone that simple question, I really don't even know what they'd say cuz they haven't been given their marching orders. Well, they're reflecting their power to the states, they just like the power. Sure, but I'm talking about the average people. Do they think the lockdowns had a point? Do they think that this was a good idea? And if so, why did they bring them back? Well, that's a question for both of you. We've all been vindicated. You were there three years ago, so was Malice, so was I. Joe Rogan came in a little bit later, but he was there saying this is a fraud. We've been vindicated. Do they think now Bill Maher's against it? Now Uh, you know, all these people aren't against the Russell brands. It's a chain reaction. I mean, I'm not trying to brag. It's just, it's just a gauge. I flew international this week. I was mobbed in Mexico. I was mobbed in the U S nothing but love my food being bought everything. We're in a restaurant and there's nothing but listeners. And it was all like, like they got a problem. Alex Jones is getting carried around people's hands, like a mosh pit.

1:56:09 I mean, what are they gonna do? And look how badly things have changed where before questioning any aspect of COVID, you were completely silenced and kicked off every platform. And now not only there are no consequences for doing this, there's actually rewards. And this is that bandwagon effect. It's really hard when the very tiny percent of the population is saying something. When you have major entertainment and political pundits saying something and they're being rewarded for it, it becomes that much easier to build up. And that's where Infowars comes in. We've got to say the truth up front when it's hard. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, or whoever that small outspoken minority is going to be on a specific issue. Yeah. Paul, closing comments on this firestorm, one of the top stories in the world, the health minister admitting it was all about power and fear and control, deploy the new variant. What happens to this criminal? Well, he needs to be investigated. And if it's proven that he's deliberately chosen an agenda to terrify the British public,

1:57:03 into falsely believing that this threat was bigger than it was at the time, then he needs to face the most severe punishment possible. But again, it disproves also this narrative that is still in place to this day, that they didn't know that it was unprecedented what could happen. So they went as draconian as possible just to be on the safe side. These messages show right from the beginning, they knew they were exaggerating it. The government advisors came out and said it was a weird experiment in weaponizing behavioral psychology and quote mind control they literally sound like alex jones right from the beginning they knew they would have to vastly exaggerate the threat to make the public comply so they knew it wasn't this great threat that wasn't uncharted waters that is the next narrative

1:57:54 that needs to be extinguished. Yeah, well, they were told don't put the people coming out of hospital into care homes. They were all infected. Those people all died. The hospitals were completely empty. We were told that the hospitals were overflowing complete BS. They were about 40% empty. And that's the long-term damage of lockdown is killing people who were denied those crucial medical things. But you were telling me during the break other stuff separate from COVID that's in the text messages. Well, yeah, they were planning on locking up Nigel Farage to make an example of him because he went to a Trump rally, gave a speech, came back to the United Kingdom, took a photo of himself in a pub, but it was within the 14-day window where you're supposed to stay locked up and you're not allowed to go outside having traveled abroad. So there's a bunch of stuff coming out. Wow. So how do you think this ends, gut level?

1:58:55 Well, again, there's going to be a public inquiry and it's up to us whether that's a whitewash or whether the people who are responsible for drilling this fear and paranoia into the British public, which has caused massive damage, kids, masks, speech therapists saying a 300% increase in autism and speech impediments. You have suicides of children, which also came out in this leak, by the way, suicides of children as a result of lockdown. You have all these long-term consequences that will reverberate. Lockdown long-term will kill more people than COVID ever killed. And that's what they're culpable for.

1:59:34 That's their responsibility and that's why they need to be punished. A real crime against humanity, summit.news. And they will have no remorse for this whatsoever. If I had to put in practices that sure it's gonna be the right thing the short term or cause kids to kill themselves. I would never be able to live with myself. They won't lose a second of sleep. Paul Joseph Watson, summit.news. Thank you so much, my friend. Thanks Alex. We'll be back with Michael Malice. Stay with us, stay with us, stay with us. Michael Malice is our guest 15 minutes to the next hour and I'm your host Alex Jones. Thank you for joining us. So great interview with Paul Joseph Watson from Summit.News there. I could ask a lot of questions, but I want to get back into why you're white pilled, why you've written the book White Pilled, and just wherever you want to go because you're a smart guy. You know what I want to talk to you about? Because we haven't talked about this before and I'm very curious because I was the one who wrote the article that kind of started this whole movement. And I know you have a lot to say about this subject and it's going to be all over the map. Ready? I want to hear your thoughts about this bubbling under concept of national divorce as a lifelong Texan. What are your thoughts on the matter?

2:00:36 I particularly don't want to break up the republic, but if the republic's already dead, which it is, and as a debt it can't pay, I think having states pull out and form coalitions to exert their power is one of the purest forms of human democracy. And Americanism. And Americanism. And I think we should repeat what we did in 1776, peacefully, economically, and I think if Texas first seceded, that they admit is one of the richest economies in the world by itself, as a self-sufficient system from the East Coast, from the West Coast, we could dictate the surrender of the occupied areas with their election fraud, their control. So I'm 100% for national divorce. So the other big criticism I always get, and you're literally the one perfect person to ask about this is, this is what the globalists want. They want America broken up, divide and conquer, divide and conquer. No one has been fighting the globalists by that name more than you for decades now. What is your answer to that criticism?

2:01:37 Well, my answer is this, they want it broken up with a race war and a cultural divide in the country collapsing and then Latin America that they control through the IMF World Bank controlling the whole Southwest. So I say we break it up to fix it, to reconstitute it with a new republic before they do it. It's real simple. What about this argument that if America breaks up that we're going to be conquered by China, that it's going to be easier for China to, I don't understand this argument that if Texas becomes, reclaims its independence, that Texas is somehow gonna be at the mercy of China. The idea that China can't even run its own country. China was given most favored nation trading status, given all the rare earth minerals, given a blank check by the globals that run our country to take over. As long as those deals are cut, China has no hope their people will take their nation back. And again, I'm gonna explain it. The country's being collapsed, it's being divided culturally, and so a divorce

2:02:26 I think more and more is the thing that needs to happen. Cold War ends, the Soviet Union falls apart and ceases to exist. And now the argument is China's gonna invade, China's gonna invade, China's gonna invade. Even if we, let's just steel man this argument. Even if we broke up into countries of 175 million people each, the idea that this would be a cakewalk for China to invade. And the other argument is, okay, well, they don't mean literally invade, they're gonna invade us culturally. It's much easier now when you have Washington under the thumb and the university system kowtowing to kind of China. Yeah, the confusion, exactly.

2:03:09 Conquered by the new world order and so when the founders said 1776 it wasn't to lessen the power of the people was to enforce it. So I would look for coalitions to pull out create new compacts and then create a new order which we see in the Declaration of Independence When the government comes destructive of the people's freedom It is not just our right as our duty to abolish the former forms of government and reconstitute new governments for the people What about this idea what if the Texas became republic that we'd all starve and we wouldn't be able to have the lights on and we'd be begging to go crawling back? We have enough oil to run the whole planet for 150 years. We have the gas, we have the technology, we have a freaking NASA's based here. I love New Yorkers, they're great people. They come and they go, are you riding horses around? Yeah, we got horses and we got, you know, everything else. The point is

2:03:56 I'm not calling for a dissolution of the republic. It already happened. I'm calling for people to recognize it and only having the states pull out to then reconvene. I think the minute Texas pulled out, Oklahoma and a bunch of other states would join us, then we'd have a coalition and an issue to get the Republic reconstituted. It would be a straight line from here to Canada because you'd have Oklahoma, you'd have Nebraska, you'd have the Dakotas, like in two seconds. Exactly. And it's kind of like your wife filing for divorce to get your attention. Right, right, right. It's like you need to stop right now. The other big argument is that what happens to people who are, you know, you have the thing is they're like, okay, it's not going to divide evenly because you're going to have blue cities and red and red rural areas. But that's kind of the status quo now. But we'll control the legislatures. And so all that Soros control will be cut off.

2:04:47 They'll get off that Soros ding dong real fast. The other argument is I don't want to cede an inch of this republic to, you know, the borders are already gone. Currency is already being destroyed. Country's already gone. What is the plan for retaking Portland? Like literally, there's no plan for people who- I think it's like escape from New York. We just wall it off and they can kill each other. Right, but the idea that somehow like conservatives and Republicans are gonna impose their worldview on Portland is so- No, no, no. Exactly. We can say, okay, you support pedophilia and all the rest of this, you can have your own area. Yeah. There's no model for reclaiming Portland to have it be- Well, no, I mean, I've come to that point. Constitutional conventions aren't what's needed in any of that.

2:05:29 I think if Texas voted to secede and put out its list of demands, I think like dominoes it would all fall. We'd have the country back in five minutes. Yeah, I don't know about five minutes, but it's certainly a step in the right direction. I mean, the political time span. Yes. And the other thing is when you are in a relationship that's not advantageous, as soon as you throw out that you've got a foot out the door, all of a sudden the tension in the room changes. Let's suppose this. Let's suppose I'm working for you, Alex, and I'm thinking about getting another job and I want to raise. If I had another job offer, with more money, I'm in a much better position. So if you're- You're like, hey, I've got this offer for twice the money, you're gonna match this. Yeah, as opposed to maybe I'm gonna have to look for work. So if Texas puts this on the table and they're taking steps to actually become the Republic of Texas once again, I think things are gonna change very quickly. And in the time of Eisenhower in the 60s, he said, as Texas goes, so goes the country.

2:06:21 And we already got the UN and global corporations, the WUF and the Chi-Coms dictating. How about we start dictating? Right, right. That's the point. Why is it that the enemy class always sets the terms of debate as opposed to people who are hardcore patriots? And patriots mean salvaging of America what you still can. I think we call it the New America Coalition or something along those lines, the New American States. And then we just have states say, the legislatures have all voted to leave if you don't follow set demands. So there's no need to even lead to leave. We just, we voted. Half the states are leaving, here's our demands. And then let the feds try to come in with weapons. Because their whole military will join us. It doesn't even have to be half. Even if it was just four states or three states, there's no way- I think Texas alone would break it. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, because Texas is absolutely gigantic and the population are very, very loyal to this lovely state that I'm delighted to be a citizen of.

2:07:14 Well, we have to have these discussions cuz that's the type of bold move that would fix this. Yeah, right. Like China wants Hong Kong and Taiwan that have been part of them for 70 years. Imagine if the heart of the country says we're gone. I mean, that shifts the whole power structure. And a lot of people are thinking this is crazy, this could never happen. Let me tell everyone watching this, if it was 2014 and I said to you that Donald Trump is going to be the next president, you would laugh in my face and call me a lunatic or worse. So it is currently part of the Texas Republican Party's platform to have a referendum, I think is the term that they're arguing for, to have Texas declare its independence. And I think this kind of thing is gonna happen a lot quicker than people realize. And I think the way to get it passed, as you said, they've got the votes legislature probably, and it's in the platform. So that's half the battle, folks. The idea it's done, like, what are people in Philadelphia? They're gonna beat the British Empire, nobody beat it, it happened. Right.

2:08:07 So if we just put it on the table, that causes a whole new debate about we don't recognize this power structure. And also the amount of people who were for independence in 7076, it wasn't 80%. Most people were just sitting at home. It wasn't even 10%. It wasn't even 10%. They were just happy to be like, all right, I'm just going to go with where the winds are going. So as soon as this is the sort of thing that gets momentum, things are going to get really- And again, I'm going to be very clear. Michael, you're totally right. We have outside global corporations already dictating us. So it's not that we want to destroy America. We want to save it by pulling out of it to reconstitute and say we don't recognize this occupied structure. Right, right. And at a certain point you have to realize, listen, I know a lot of people watching the show in the military, ex-military, is your vision of America one in which Kamala Harris is commander in chief? Because that's not my vision.

2:08:55 The FBI with their informants puts out the message of militias and violence. Let's kill some cops. Let's blow up a Justice Department building. That's the last thing you do. It turns them into victims. We win by soft power, by intellectual ideas. And the polls show the majority of Americans want to secede. They're done. We secede from the false thing to tell it it's not us to reconstitute it. And look how much things have moved positively in terms of gun rights on a state by state basis. Look how much things have moved positively in terms of school choice. Even the Supreme Court's getting on board. Right. In just a couple of years, school choice has become the law of the land in state after state after state after parents saw what was being done in their schools. So let me say it. I am calling for us now to file for divorce.

2:09:38 Yes, it's a great day in America, I think, and a great day to be a Texan. Because again, it's not our republic. Our husband or our wife is a globalist, New World Order, Chi-Com tyrant. It's not our country. You hear these stories of these moms taking the kids and injecting them with hormones and sterilizing them, and the dad has to sit at home and there's nothing he can do because the law is against him. That's the kind of state that America is in right now as a parallel, in my opinion. And they go, oh, you're anti-whatever. No, if adult is something, I'm totally for it. Like Blair White, great person, love her. But the point is, don't do it to kids. Adults make their choices. And that's how Washington sees you. They see you as a guinea pig. They do not care about your family and your freedoms in the slightest. I've got some good news.

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2:11:45 Well, they're ready for a violent attack, they're provocateuring it. Culturally, the general public doesn't get it in blue states. So instead of having a violent civil war, we have a cultural civil war and people use their Declaration of Independence rights to pull out. That gives us all the peaceful leverage to demand the country back. Here's an argument against national divorce that I do not find cogent. The argument is they'll never let you leave, they'll never let you have your own country. But the thing is, you don't hear about what's going on in Canada, you don't hear what's going on in Mexico. They've completely stopped talking, and they have a reason to, about the plight of women in Afghanistan and the Taliban. That's the real problem. What's happening to these women is really horrible. But because they don't have a narrative, they just gave up on

2:12:29 Pretending it's not happening. So if America did split up and Texas gained its independence, yeah, they would care ostensibly, but they wouldn't do anything about it. And we see this case after case where there's all these atrocities happening. Right, right, so I'm very hopeful that this is something that's going to happen. Here's the other argument. They're never gonna let us leave and it's going to be absolutely violent. It's another Civil War too. We tried this once before. Do you think that's true that they would not be able to happen peacefully? I think we know the globalists are planning to have a race war and a civil war to bring down the country under UN control. I say we do it before they do it peacefully. But the thing is, they're going to say, well, it's not going to be able to happen peacefully. If Texas declared its independence, it would be invaded and decimated by Washington and the military. Do you think that's true or necessarily true? No, no one put up that. They have no reason to do that.

2:13:21 It's an information war, they have no support to do it. Right, but I mean, can you speak to the people at home who think that as soon as Texas secedes, we would be just completely General Sherman? I mean, I would just tell them that they're out of their minds because, I mean, look at all the factors. The public's ready to do it, Washington's illegitimate. What is their excuse to invade and attack? I mean, the military is awake on average, I don't see it working. Yeah, I don't see it either. And I think it's really really easier to convince the military to invade another country than to convince the military to fire its own citizenry. It's very different when you had the civil war in the South and the Confederacy, which is really regarded as this kind of malevolent evil force. It's a lot easier to- Yeah, we're not promoting slavery. Exactly. It's easier to, and we're not firing on Fort Sumter. So it's easier to kind of make that kind of thing happen than to have a bunch of Texans be like, all right, we want our country. It's like, we're going to invade and kill

2:14:18 people in Dallas and Houston. I'm sure they would like to, but it would be a lot harder to pull that off. Cuz they're already planning to break the country up using race war and the rest of it. Why not break it up now to reconstitute? Yeah, I'm very heartened to hear you say this. And I'm curious if you're gonna get pushback from the audience because a lot of people are like, no, no, no, you're just giving up. This is surrender. This is what they want. And I don't think that's what they, I think globalism by definition wants one organization. Well, they wanna break it up and then reconstitute it. But if the producing states pull out and cut the others off, they've got to stop. Right, right. And the idea that Texas couldn't be its own country, let alone Texas allied with several other states, to me is just an absolute absurdity. And I think that's kind of the best way to save the next generation and keep them from being brainwashed in government schools. All right, you're gonna host the last segment cuz I love to talk, but if I talk, I'll interrupt the whole time. So we got a 10 minute segment coming up after this one minute break, Michael Malice.

2:15:17 You are going to host okay the last 10 minutes about your book and what else is in it why people should read it, okay? Well, I'm looking forward to that. I think I've got a lot to say and then I and you got your own show You're welcome. My show is called. You're welcome. Here's the t-shirt. It's it's a complete disaster I don't have a nice studio like Alex's come. Oh give me a break. That's great. I love going on there get millions of views. We got a lot of views, we have a lot of fun. And it's just, by the way, I gotta tell you this is, I'm very, very happy and I say this constantly. We're gonna be together on stage with Alex Stein and Blair Wyden and Tim Pool on April 14th here on 6th Street. Are you gonna go to Joe Rogan's secret opening tomorrow? Oh, I'm gonna be on Joe, oh I guess so. Okay, I'll find out. I'm gonna be on Joe tomorrow, so I'm gonna tell him. No, it's a secret. Okay. Alright, okay. You don't know about the secret. Okay, I'll tell you about it off air. Okay.

2:16:04 All right, there we go. We'll be right back in 60 seconds. And I'm gonna let you host this segment. I wanna hear what you have to say about the book, about what's happening. You're gonna be on Joe Rogan tomorrow, that's gonna be huge. So much more happening here in the great ATX. Michael Malice, I'm glad you came to the studio. Tell us about the white pill and what it means. Well, there's two things I want people to take away from this book. And just even if you don't read the book, just take away in terms of looking at politics in general. And the first is that the Americans are very naive about the nature of evil.

2:16:42 They really think evil means someone with a crazy mustache who's banging their fist on the table, who's spouting crazy nonsense. But more often than not, it's just some loser who's only in that political position because they're preaching the party line, because they're being politically correct, and they're being subservient to some kind of ruling ideology. And it's very important for them to parrot these ideas to maintain their status quo and their stance on power, which means... That the people in power do not tend to be particularly bright or impressive. They just tend to be loyal to the regime. A great example of this was someone named Lysenko, who was a big biologist in the Soviet Union. He claimed he was crossing with potatoes and tomatoes and all this other stuff, and he opposed genetics.

2:17:27 And he opposed genetics because genetics was incompatible in his view with Marxism. And because of this, Soviet biology was an embarrassment and was set back decades. It became an international laughingstock. But the point is, these people, A, their ideas do not work. That is one important reason to be hopeful. If these ideologies were successful and created prosperity for everyone, well, we'd be in favor of them. But the fact is they don't work even for the leaders in charge. They have power, but that power tends to be a precarious one because it's not based on honesty or on facts. So that's an important key to take away. Second is realize

2:18:06 that there is nothing you can put past these people. I go after case after case about how they put people on trial, knowing they were innocent. They made a priest denounce God from the pulpit just to kind of prove that religion is the opiate of the masses in their view. They had a story called Pavlik Morozov. The story they told to school children, where the moral of the story is, if your dad or your mom is doing something wrong, you should turn them into the police. This is something that kids were taught in the Soviet Union for a very long time. So again, there is nothing that these people would hold holy.

2:18:43 But the fact of the matter is, in nation after nation, they were peacefully overthrown. A great example is in East Germany, it kind of alludes to what we were talking earlier with Alex and Paul Joseph Watson. Because they would have protests in a city in East Germany called Leipzig. And at first the protests were few and you're protesting in a country where protesting is illegal. You're like, okay, you're really sticking your neck out. And in any kind of revolution or peaceful or otherwise, it's gonna be those few people who are speaking truth to power, who are the ones who are putting their necks out. But what happens quickly is when you see that nothing happens to them,

2:19:18 Others join in they're like wait a minute that small group didn't get punished if I join in I'm not gonna get punished and step by step these Organizations build up until it becomes a tidal wave that cannot be overcome this happened East Germany at a certain point honeyker who was the head of East Germany was looking at the TV screen seeing these marches of of literally hundreds of thousands of people in East Berlin chanting, we are the people and chanting no violence. And he's called for another Tiananmen Square where everyone I'm sure remembers this June 4th, 1989 when they sent in the tanks and killed all those protesters in communist China and Tiananmen Square. And the head of the military, I believe it was, looked at him and said, we can't do anything

2:20:01 We are going to let matters proceed peacefully. And that is the mechanism in my view for effective, liberating social change. It's going to take a few brave patriots, freedom fighters, whatever term you want to call yourself, to stick their necks out. We're already way past that point. There are so many people in this country, both public figures and private individuals, who are like, this isn't working. The system is corrupt. These people are malevolent. And after that, it's much, much easier for others to jump on the bandwagon and to make effective change. Here's an issue that's just not really political, drug legalization.

2:20:38 It is still illegal in every state to have marijuana dispensaries because it's federal crime. But what people looked around and saw is, yes, the crime is still on the books, the law is still on the books. But they're not raiding these dispensaries. They're not arresting these people who are selling joints or whatever it is for medical reasons. And that's quickly how, even though the law itself has not changed, the enforcement of the law has become abolished. So it's a matter of It's a matter of recognizing that anything that has to be implemented comes at a great cost, either financial or psychological or emotional to the ruling class. And at a certain point, they're gonna run out of money in their bank, whether it's emotional fuel or financial fuel. And when that happens, the jig is up.

2:21:25 Just as a microcosm, Joe Biden can hardly talk. They say he's gonna be the next nominee. Why would a power structure put forward a Fetterman or a Joe Biden? What are they looking for? Well, I think there's two arguments here. One is this shows how powerful they are, that they can either drag this carcass or this Sasquatch across the finish line successfully, one, or this just shows how weak they are, that these are who's left to represent the regime. And frankly, to me, it seems clearly the second one, because if you look at like aristocrats and something called the Habsburg Jaw, you have the Habsburg dynasty, and they were so inbred, literally inbred, that the last guy, he couldn't even really close his mouth and his jaw was all huge and deformed. You can look this up on the internet photos of the Habsburg dynasty. Habsburg Jaw, yeah. The Habsburg Jaw.

2:22:11 What happens is these regimes, they become decadent and inbred, literally in that case, but figuratively nowadays. And the people who are being drawn into the power structure in Washington, if you look at FDR, if you look at Woodrow Wilson, these were very bright men. These are very charismatic men. These are very powerful men. Can you seriously look at the people in Washington today and think they're anything like, These giants of the past that they're anything like have any amount of charisma FDR had so many Democrats in Congress They had to spill over and sit into the Republican seats Can you see anyone in the Democratic Party or even a bad actor in the Republican Party? Who's able to unite the country so much behind them and their agenda. I don't see it at all Well, that's why I think we're in the middle of the Great Awakening.

2:23:08 It's night and day, thanks to the internet, thanks to social media, thanks to shows like-. So they can try to censor, they can try to control, but it's all a rear guard action. Alex, if they had their way, you wouldn't exist. If they had their way, you'd be in solitary confinement. Is that not clear? Yes. And the fact is we're having a nice lunch, we're gonna go shoot in a few weeks and we're having a good time. You're under a lot of pressure, you're under a lot of stress. But again, they haven't been able to vanish you or silence you. Because we didn't give up. Because you didn't give up. And because your audience continues to support you. So keep betting on humanity, keep betting on Renaissance, keep betting on the new enlightenment, keep betting on the great awakening. And you owe it to your kids to have hope. And you owe it to your kids, in my view, to fight for a better future and a better America and to not give in to cynicism and the idea that good things never happen. And don't count on Biden or Donald Trump or DeSantis or anybody, count ourselves.

2:23:59 Right, right. There's no one is going to come in on a white horse and save you. This is the delusion. And this is a way to get you to give up. Because if you hope on this one politician and he disappoints you, then you're going to think, oh, I couldn't have wanted to begin with. No, it was your premises that were wrong. You're hoping in the wrong direction and looking for hope, not in Washington. Look for it in yourself. So what matters is issues and sticking with those. Yes. And realizing that people in Washington often get corrupted and co-opted by the system. There's no mechanism, it's even worse in Britain. The Tories there, the Conservative Party there, are even worse than the Republican Party here, if you can believe it. But the answer isn't via the Republican Party, the answer is to realize that Washington is the problem and to take power away from Washington, not give it from one gang to the other. And we're gonna go shooting very soon. Yes, it's gonna be a lot of fun. We're gonna shoot up as William F Buckley.

2:24:48 picture. Yes, and I did right between the eyes, although I wish nothing but goodwill for the Buckley family. I don't want to do any harm on them, of course. But it's a political. Yes. We're killing the idea. Yeah, killing the idea, right. Killing the idea of this Buckley type. Buckley's slogan for the National Review is standing at the word history yelling stop. It is a slogan of impotence. I don't want to yell stop. I want to stop them. Beautifully said. All right, the white pill, find it everywhere. Whitepillbook.com. All right, thank you so much. The great Gerald Cilente takes over the next 45 minutes, then the great amazing Owen Schroer 3 p.m. Central today info wars comm Ford slash show great job the crew and Lord willing. I'll be back tomorrow 11 a.m Central right after Harrison Smith 8 a.m. Central with American Journal We are white pill we believe in hope we believe in the future. We're gonna win together Thank you so much for tuning in folks. We'll archive this interview at band on video

2:25:45 Hey, great being on the Alex Jones Show. I was listening to that interview and going on back and forth with Michael Malice and Alex. And look at the people that are running the show, he's been going on forever. It's a freak show. How could anybody, how could any man or woman look up to the little clowns that are telling us what to do? Could you look up to a Lindsey Graham, a Mitch McConnell, I got more chins than Chinatown. What a clown. What an arrogant, arrogant, arrogant, arrogant, stupid clown. And I don't want to be, they're repulsive kids, I'm going after that. Hey, how about little Chucky Schumer? Yeah, I'll do Chucky Schumer. Put my glasses down over my nose and really help you. Look at one little jerk after another telling us what to do. And not only in the United States,

2:26:50 in a country near you. How about that little jerk they had over there playing the Prime Minister of the UK? Yeah, Boris Johnson, our great artist for the Trends Journal magazine, Anthony Fried. If I said, listen, I want you to do a cartoon character. We're gonna make this guy the Prime Minister of the UK. He could not have come up with a better illustration than the real illustration of that little low life freak. It's one little low life freak telling us what to do. Adam Schiff, I can't spell it properly, you gotta put a T in there at the end. Gavin Newsom, Whitney Switmere. Hey, how about all you folks over there in Ohio? Getting phoked by the little DeWine. How can you be so gutless? How can you be so stupid?

2:27:58 Hey, I do what I'm told. I'm an American. And it's not only here, it's everywhere. I lost my, I used to go to Italy all the time, I used to date a woman there. And I got, I actually have a cousin Vinnie, over, back and forth. And we're out one night, and they're all complaining about the bureaucracy. The bureaucracy in Italy is the worst. I said, what are you guys doing about it? What are we gonna do? What are we gonna do?

2:28:36 And they were the first ones to lock down to follow the COVID war. Following the COVID war, we're marching off to the COVID war. Yep, the average age of the people dying in Italy when they locked it down, 81 years old. Of course, pre-existing comorbidities. And I wanna make this clear to everyone listening, the Trends Journal magazine, The only magazine in the world that gives you in depth socioeconomic and geopolitical trends analysis and trend forecasts on the current events forming future trends was the first magazine, the number one to call the COVID war BS. It began, the COVID war was launched

2:29:28 In 2020, January, in celebration of the Chinese Lunar New Year, the year of the rat. I'm making that up. January 28th, Trends Journal 2020, coronavirus, 106 dead in China. The next line was 1.4 billion still alive. What are you telling me this crap for? I used to be on Hong Kong TV.

2:30:08 back in 2019, I was on a lot. I'm on like 20 minutes. Hong Kong, a city of 7.5 million people, over a million were taking to the streets and protested China taking over and robbing them of their freedom. They couldn't stand the Chinese. They weren't gonna, and I'm taking a break, I say, listen, Frank, what's going on? Are you people gonna, Mr. Salenti, we're not gonna stop. We're not gonna stop. We're gonna keep protesting. Guess what? COVID war comes, pass the security law, finito, they took over. The COVID war, that's what they called it. So talking about the little freaks, the little low life scum in a country near you or a city or a state, I got a little clown boy over here that's the mayor of Kingston, a little nothing of a boy, cut down the trees on the most historic four corners in front of my building.

2:31:13 How come you're cutting it down? We don't want the, we're paving the street. We don't want the truck to hit the branches. A little nothing. Clowns everywhere. They're politicians. They're low life freaks who never work a day in their lives. The people I hated in high school and college that wanted to be class president, I headed a student council. That's who's telling us what to do. So looking at the little low life freaks who sold us the COVID war, you see the story coming out of the UK? Yep, Matt Hancock's plan to frighten the pants off everyone about COVID. This came out in the Telegraph over the weekend.

2:32:09 Matt Hancock, you got it boy. Hancock, the perfect name for this little, I can't say the word, I don't wanna be a black boy. Hancock, throughout the course of the pandemic, officials and ministers, this is the way they do it. Officials and ministers wrestled with how to ensure the public complied with ever changing lockdown restrictions. One weapon in their arsenal was fear. Yeah, they called it the COVID war. We're fighting the war. Trump called it a war. Biden later called it a war. Freak Fauci, one after another, they called it a war. I'm a Yankee Doodle Dandy, a Yankee Doodle Door, die. You march off the war, they get you with the war. Yep.

2:33:08 And listen how they began this. Throughout the course of the pandemic, a pandemic? How many people do you know? How many people do you know personally that died from COVID? And if you did, how many of them had pre-existing comorbidities? Number two, throughout the course of the pandemic, officials and ministers. Officials? How about official pieces of crap, ministers? Amen, and hey women minister, what minister? I don't pee or poo, I'm a minister, you're just a piece of crap. Yep, that's who's running and ruining our lives. If we don't stand up and unite for freedom, peace and justice, it's over. So we're gonna be right back, support InfoWars.

2:34:08 A great being on the Alex Jones show like Alex said you know support info wars good info wars store dot com. And get what you can because you helping yourself and you helping info wars so we got a lot of great products back in stock. And they're restocking things like their prebiotic fiber. It's back 40% off, one deal after another. So do what you can to support Infowars because they're supporting you. United we stand, divided we die, as I say. And if we don't unite and fight for peace and freedom, it's finished. By the way, before I forget, I just did a great interview. If you go to Gerald Salenti or Trends Journal on YouTube,

2:34:53 I did a great interview with Cy Hirsch this past Friday, and it's one not to be missed. And this is the guy that came out and said the United States bombed the Nord Stream pipeline. That's not getting any mainstream media coverage. It's one of a kind interview because we went into, he's a real cat this guy. Pulitzer Prize winner, the guy that came out and said the My Life Massacre, one after another. And he's a great guy. So if you go to the YouTube, you could see the interview. And Alex Jones said World War II is already, World War III has already begun.

2:35:31 And that was the cover, by the way, of our Trends Journal magazine a year ago, February 22nd, 2020, two days before the Ukraine war began. We went from COVID war to Ukraine war to world war. It's already begun. So going back to this little guy Matt Hancock, he goes, quote, we frightened the pants off everyone. These are WhatsApp that they got these all from. The then health secretary was not alone in his desire to scare the public into compliance. You got it, that's all they do. They scare you into compliance. And what kind of a man or woman are you if you comply to these little boys and girls who couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag?

2:36:34 They're tough when they got all their security guards around them. You call them out man to man, they wouldn't know whether and I can't say the word what to do, but they fall like that. He goes on, the then health secretary, health secretary, is a little arrogant boy. Stay home. Yep, save lives. How about go I can't say the words. Look at that little nothing. Look at that little nothing arrogant boy, and he did it. He scared the pants. He scared the pants off everyone. I'm not making this up. What did the people do? The first thing when the COVID war came, they dropped their pants and went out and bought toilet paper. Yeah, you can't make that crap up.

2:37:32 He's scared, they scared the pants off everybody. The first thing that the people did was run out and buy toilet paper. They scared the pants off of them. If you wanted to make a science fiction movie up, come on, Celente, we can't make this crap up. I'm telling you it'll work. No, no, no. The people aren't that stupid. Yes, they are. What's your favorite war? Hey, how about Saddam Hussein and weapons of mass destruction? Why those dirty Russians? Look what they did to Iraq, lying that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass, that was the United States.

2:38:13 And look what those Russians did to Vietnam with that lie about the Gulf of Tonkin. No, that was the United States, yeah. Every day, every day, every day, every day during the Vietnam War, I used to wake up and they're gonna get me, they're gonna get me. I did everything I could to avoid the draft. And as a young guy in my late teens and early 20s, I was too stupid to know it was a lie. I started learning as I grew up. The only reason I didn't want to go there, I'm watching these guys walking through water this high up to their chest with a gun over their head and about 50 pounds of weight on their back and getting shot at. I said, I don't want to do that. Lying us into war, and they lied us into the COVID war. Yep, Hancock's team engaged in a kind of quote, public fear, in which they spoke of how to utilize quote, fear and guilt

2:39:20 to make the people obey, and they still do it. Fear, lies. We don't stop those Russians in Ukraine. Before you know it, it's gonna be Europe, and then the whole world. Little Lindsey Graham, that was the crap shooting out of his mouth when he went to Ukraine with that other arrogant guy, Blumenthal, from Connecticut. Yeah, if we don't stop, Blumenthal, arrogant lying Blumenthal. You said you fought in Vietnam, you're the same age as I am. No, what did you get, like four or five draft affirmance? And because you're a member of the club, you got in the National Guard and you stayed in Washington DC? That lying Blumenthal, how about blooming crap? And don't forget to vote for them.

2:40:18 Anybody to me that votes the repulsive kids, a Democratic Party, it's the same crap. We need a new third party. Going on to this Hancock guy, they go on to say, four days on January 10th, Hancock and Simon Case, the cabinet secretary, and therefore the country's most powerful civil servant, discussed more stringent measures that they could introduce. They agreed that minor adjustments such as banning angling would be paradigm galore. So they decided that quote, fear and or guilt must be vital tools. They discussed making mask wearing mandatory in all settings. You know why? Because it had a very visible impact. These people should be at least put in

2:41:25 You know, and maybe the guillotines too much, but pretty close to. Every one of these arrogant clowns did exactly what this Hancock did. Every one of them. Oh, I forgot. I forgot arrogant Andy Cuomo, that the clowns in Hollywood gave an Emmy to because he could BS so good. He was better than Hancock. the people obeyed and how they hate me. I had a peace and freedom rally over here when everything was locked down. Boy, do they hate me for doing that because all the gutless libtards, they all love it. They all love to be told what to do because they're not men and women. They're gutless little clowns and that's who's running and ruining our life.

2:42:25 A gutless little clown in a country near you, a Hancock. That's right. That's who's telling us what to do. This article is disgusting. Yep, this guy Case. The little clown, he was implicated in Partygate scandal when he emerged that a party had been held in his private office as they're telling everybody to lock down and saying that they're spreading fear and hysteria. I'm mentioning this because they're doing the same thing with the COVID war. They're doing the same thing with the Ukraine war. And the people march off. I obey, I obey. Yeah, bend over, obey. Be a good nobody, be a dope.

2:43:15 Be a jerk. Listen to the clown in a city state country near you. Remember support info was we're going to take a break and we'll talk about the economy. We right back. Hey, great being on Alex Jones show. Yeah, there we are with with Cy Hirsch. Yep, who blew up the pipeline. So go to the trends journal on on YouTube or Gerald Salenti C E L E N T E channel. It's a great, great interview. He's he's a real man. Real old timer. So I just want to finish up with this, with this, this Matt Hancock thing. And this guy, this other arrogant little clown, this guy Case, Simon Case, the cabinet secretary. Yeah, could you empty out the cabinet? Cabinet, he goes,

2:44:11 I tell you, case was implicated in a party gate scandal when it emerged that a party had been held in his private office, blah, blah, blah. Colleagues are reportedly furious the case did not have to pay a penalty for lockdown breaking parties. No, because they're better than we are. Don't you understand? They are above us. You do what they tell you to do. I was the assistant to the Secretary of the New York State Senate. At 26 years old, I was on the other side. I know what arrogant little pieces of low life, stupid crap these boys and girls are. They're nobodies, but boy, they got some attitude. Anyway, despite having to recuse himself from investigating them when it emerged that one gathering was held.

2:45:08 The latest leaked message follow revelations last week that Case said, you ready? It was hilarious that travelers had to isolate upon return to the UK. On February 16th, 2021, after holidaymakers were forced to quarantine when returning from specific countries, Case said to Handcock, quote, Any idea how many people were locked up in hotels yesterday? Yep, look at the stupid crap that they made up to rob us of our freedom. And it has destroyed this country and the world. The damage done by the COVID war is incalculable. No more nightlife, everybody goes home early now, whole different world.

2:46:07 Yep, there's a clown, don't forget to vote. Look at that little jerk. Look at that, arrogant. By the way, he was caught having sex with somebody. Yeah, yep, that's right. Another little clown of a nothing. Another clown of a nothing. Dr. Clive Dix, the outgoing Tory, said the outgoing Tory MP, meaning him, who resigned as health secretary after being caught breaking social distancing rules to pursue an affair with an aide was, quote, the most difficult of all the ministers. He didn't take time to understand anything, as Dr. Clive Dix said of Hancock. It was all over the place, a bit like a headless chicken.

2:47:07 Early the message revealed that Mr. Hancock took Gina Cola D'Angelo, who was having an affair with two private dinners with the US Health Secretary. Then altered a ministerial response to remove suggestions he invited her. Yep, all right. And I'm telling you, they're doing the same thing with the Ukraine war. Lying to us, stealing our money. That blinking, BS blinking, just another what, half a million dollars went over to Ukraine to keep blooding the killing fields that they say Russia's losing. And now that they're winning in this other area, they say, well, it really doesn't matter. Yeah, but you told me they were losing. Yeah, but it really doesn't matter that they're winning this. My name is Lloyd Austin. I used to work on the board of directors of Raytheon and now I'm the US

2:48:00 I worked on the second largest defense contractor in the United States before Biden gave me this job. That's what he says. That doesn't matter, that don't mean anything. Yeah, but you were saying that the Ukrainians were going to win it. No, no, that doesn't mean anything. All right, onto the economy. It's very simple. The higher interest rates go, the deeper this thing sinks and it's going to sink deep and hard. Today, the Dow is up like 180 points and now it's almost flat.

2:48:40 We may be hitting March madness. This is a time of year, October and March are two volatile months when crashes happen. You go back to our trends journal, when it used to be a quarterly, then it went to a monthly, and now it's a weekly. Last week was over 170 pages, no ads. On October 1999, the headline was dot com bust coming. And I had forecast that it was going to hit by the second quarter of 2000, and it did in March. We are at that same precipice right now. Germany is that far away from recession. They just had negative GDP growth. The inflation numbers are well over 8%. It was supposed to come down.

2:49:48 Everyone's calling it stagflation, a stagnant economy and rising inflation. No, it's not. It's dragflation. The economy is dragging down and inflation's going up. We are headed, as I see it, and we're forecasting, the worst socioeconomic collapse in modern history. This is going to be worse than the Great Depression.

2:50:27 And the Great Recession that happened in 2008 was the worst since the Great Depression. The Great Recession, which we in the Trends Journal had forecast would happen in 2007, we took out the domain name, the Panic of 08 in November of 2007. When a little clown, arrogant, arrogant mother,

2:51:03 Clown, that was the Fed head at the time, Ben Bernanke. It's not gonna be a real estate problem. No, there's no problems going on, it's gonna be fine. And how about the guy we got playing Fed head now, Jerome Powell? There's no inflation, Salenti, you're full of baloney. It's only temporary as it keeps going up. Well, it's just transitory. And now of course in the woke world is transgender Tory. I'm gonna change the name of the trends journal to the trans journal. Oh, we'll do great. This thing is serious. I'm not telling you what to do. But to me, goals number one, treasuries, you get 4% plus interest to safe bet, they're not gonna let that fail. Again, I don't give financial advice. Prepare for the worst.

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