1:34:38 This item will be chosen at random from a hand-picked selection of our DVDs, books, stickers, and so much more. This is our gift to you for supporting the InfoWars and the Voice of Freedom worldwide. After the seemingly never-ending barrage of attacks on us, Alex and the rest of the crew here at InfoWars needs all the help we can get to allow the message of a pro-human future to reach the masses. Hurry to the store of InfoWars now to check out the Mega Blowout Sale because some of these items are already selling out at InfoWarsStore.com. And I do believe, like I had been saying, there will be a little bit of a fight in Arizona. Definitely Carrie Lake's campaign pushing back, but other investigative journalists, analysts are finding some odd stuff too. And that's why right now they've even said there were so many problems they're gonna pause certification. So Michael Schaefer joins me now. I mean, Michael...
1:35:50 All the anomalies, the voting machines shutting down, the people being turned away. I mean, what is the biggest story right now from your perspective out of Maricopa County? I think the biggest stories, Owen, and thank you for having me, are ones that can lead to the nullification of the elections not only in Arizona, but as many as 34 other states that support the Help America Vote Act, known as the HAVA Act. I think the solutions, the path there is the most important thing we can be talking and hear about. So talk about that because that's not something that I really hear much about.
1:36:29 Appreciate that. So I happen to own a laboratory which is accredited to the ISO standards, the same standards that the test labs receive an accreditation to. They have another accreditation that pertains to the HAVA Act and the EAC, the Election Assistance Commission. And if we go back in time, 2018, their accreditations had expired when the testing, the voting machines were certified. So if you're not accredited, you can't certify if your accreditation has expired or you don't have an accreditation. It's just like if you and your girlfriend go to your neighbor and say, we have marry us and he's not an ordained pastor or chaplain, you're not married.
1:37:17 pretend you're married, you may think you're married, but you're not. So it's like an expired driver's license, kind of. Yes, you can't drive if you're, you know, police badge is withdrawn, you can't go do police work, it's like anything, but realtors, if you lose your license, you can't sell real estate on and on and on. We understand that very well. And so these labs had expired accreditations, and they I'm not sure how they represented themselves and I'm not sure why our Secretary of State didn't figure this out. You're talking about Katie Hobbs, Secretary of State? Yes. Oh, how convenient. That's Secretary of State. I don't know how she didn't figure it out either. Well, going back to 2018, she ran against a man by the name of Steve Gaynor, who also recently was in the primaries for a governor seat.
1:38:04 So the two of them ran this race. Those machines were not certified. They cast the boats through the machines and Steve Gaynor won the election the night of the election. Ducey, the governor, congratulated him according to the story I've heard. And he woke up the next day to find out that something very unusual had happened during the course of the evening. Ballots came from somewhere. and changed the election from Steve Gaynor to Katie Hobbs. That show she won her first election and became Secretary of State. So fast forward into 2020, the labs had not updated their accreditations, but what had happened, and we have a team of great people that have been keeping eyes on this over the years, these published accreditations, interestingly, had changed information.
1:39:00 So they went from a two-year to a three-year accreditation. The problem with that is the law and the rules under the VSTL manual in accordance with NIST are two years. So you can't have a three-year accreditation. Over further time, if you look at and investigate this, there were signatures that were signed the accreditations that according to the manual, were not allowed to sign those accreditations. And so the facts have changed over the period of time to try to go back in time and make what was right, or sorry, what was wrong, right. And you can't go back in time according to the maxims of law, change something in the future and make it apply backwards and make something that happened that was unlawful in the past become right. So if you just connect the dots, so machines are not accredited.
1:39:54 because the accreditation labs were not accredited at that time. So they're technically not certified. So if you have an uncertified machine and you put a ballot through it, is there some way an uncertified machine can create a certified vote on the other end? You cannot. And so if these are uncertified ballots, you cannot certify an election. People may go through the motions, they may play an act, but lawfully it's an uncertified election. And this is serious business, not only in the state of Arizona, but with every state across the United States that has adopted the HAVA Act. This, the same problem applies because it's the same voting machines, and it's the same test labs. There are only two test labs that do this. So it's the same two test labs that travel around the United States to certify voting machines and if both were expired, then the
1:40:42 permeates across the United States. And this is something that I believe can change not only our election, but other states elections. But people have to take a look at the laws. And in the case of Arizona, it's Arizona revised statute 16-442B as in Bravo, 16-442B as in Bravo says that the voting machines must not shall must be certified. They must be certified. Well, by who? By an accredited test lab, an accredited test lab. Not an expired accreditation, but accredited. And these labs were not. And this
1:41:22 This can turn into, I think, a great blessing for our country and we pray that this information gets out, people come to understand it, and we'll do something about it. And the people need to stand up. It can't be just five guys on the front lines. The people have to stand up about this fact and bring it. Yeah, absolutely. And I think that there's certainly some fight in Arizona. I don't know anywhere else right now, but Arizona, it looks like there's definitely going to be, at least a little bit of a fight there, but I don't want to rehash the past. It's just I listen to you say all this stuff and it just reminds me. This is essentially, without the exact details, but overall it's essentially the exact same thing that happened in 2020 where all these different states basically illegally changed, unconstitutionally changed the way that they can accept and take ballots from the mail-in ballots to the drop boxes, all unconstitutional, but they just said under color of law, under color of law and COVID, that we're going to be taking these ballots.