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00:00 While other networks lie to you about what's happening now, InfoWars tells you the truth about what's happening next. Visit InfoWars.com forward slash show and support the InfoWars. InfoWars, tomorrow's news today. It is July 9th, 2025 on this live Wednesday edition. We're entering the 170th day

00:42 of the Trump administration that we had hoped would be the rebirth of the American Republic and the West. And still, I would say 90% of what he's doing is good. But six months ago, it was 98%. Then a few months ago, it was 95% in my dead reckoning. And now we're moving down about 90%. So a turn into events and behaviors that is beyond troubling. But I can tell you the White House and the DOJ and the Pentagon, unlike the Democrats and that brand of deep state, the establishment that's being dislodged, does not care about your opinion or what you want. In fact, they hate you. The White House does pay a lot of attention to you and me and what we have to say. And I'm overall proud of the populist conservative movement

01:47 And that unlike the left, we are not one big cult that just follow whatever the party talking points are. We created the revolution, the populist revolution through the Tea Party and Trump in the last 20 plus years. That is not just taking America back culturally, economically, spiritually, politically, but that is spreading all over the world. It is recognized by sociologists and anthropologists and political experts and futurists. as stemming from the resistance movement that has been ongoing for really 60, 70 years to the globalist here in the United States, but exploded under myself, Ron Paul, and many, many others in the last 30 years, people like you. So whereas some of the behaviors of Trump, like the Epstein file, gaslighting, whitewash, firestorm, whereas that is extremely

02:56 frustrating and extremely dangerous. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter because our global awakening and the United States is the epicenter of that is exponential and is unstoppable unless the globalists release some super virus or have a nuclear war. And even that in the end, they'll be defeated as people know they're behind it. Now, I've had some time to continue to research and talk to my sources about what's happening with the suppression of the Epstein case, not just a list of clients, the terabytes of child rape and the rest of it, and the desperate damage control spin we've seen. And my sources in high-level US intelligence in the White House and in the FBI have said, no, exactly what you said on Monday is exactly what we know it is now, and that it is a war inside the intelligence agencies and the DOJ, not even so much between the Democrat NGO Soros wing, that's more and more on the outside,

04:04 and being dismantled. Trump's really doing that. But into that vacuum has come Israel. Now, people are always saying Israel runs all our foreign policy and Israel runs us domestically. And from my research, there's been a lot of different factions and power groups. And Israel has not been dominant in our domestic policies and has not been dominant in our global foreign policies, but has been steering the bus on the Middle East. But in this power vacuum and this global revolution happening, particularly here in the United States, Israel and the Likudniks are making a run at seizing control of MAGO right now. And so that's what this is really all about behind the scenes. And I'll give you the exclusive information straight ahead. You'll want to share the live feed on X right now, Relox Jones. You're gonna want to hear this. All right, I've been on the phone last night and this morning with

05:03 high level sources in the Pentagon, high level sources in CENTCOM, high level sources in the media, high level sources in the White House, high level presidential advisors. And I've confirmed talking to all of them that exactly what I surmised all of this was on Monday is exactly what's going on. And so we are known as being tomorrow's news today. And I'm just gonna lay out the facts here about this Epstein gaslighting cover-up, whitewash, that went from being a very dangerous fiasco Sunday into Monday with the DOJ memo that got leaked like a fart in church, cuz they didn't want attention to it, that the Epstein case is closed. And then of course on Monday, the White House confirmed the DOJ, no, that's a real memo.

06:09 And it said Epstein acted alone, he wasn't a human trafficker, there was no blackmail operation, and he killed himself. Now already when they killed Epstein and covered this up over the last 15 years and killed him four or five years ago, it has already been a firestorm of firestorms because of the Streisand effect. We all know what the Streisand effect is. Barbara Streisand built this giant mansion on the beach and she didn't want people talking about it.

06:45 And when the local reporter talked about it, she attacked him. So then it got picked up by the international press. It was a giant story. And so by coming out and saying, actually, everything we told you in the past isn't true. There aren't 14 terabytes of kids getting raped. There aren't all these new flight logs and blackmail. Forget about it. Go to sleep. It went to a whole nother level. This is the big issue. The general public finally understood the deep state through. And then when Trump came out in that press conference yesterday at about 1130 Central, we'll play the clip again, and got visibly angry and then attacked the reporter, basically said you're standing on the graves of dead kids because they've just been talking in a free for all discussion about the tragedy in the Texas Hill Country. I mean, that was a very unfair attack on a reporter that asked a really good question. And so the story went from mega massive to ultra massive. And so

07:57 Now, behind the scenes, and a lot of big reporters have talked about it, I've talked to others it's happened to, they've had the FBI call them up that's given them information in the past as a source, and said you're gonna be cut off if you don't stop talking about this. Now, just like Kyle Serafin said on Monday, high level FBI whistleblower, was his approximation, he wasn't sure yet, they've got deep staters in there giving Patel and Bongino very bad advice. I mean, anybody that understands the media and 101, if you wanted something to strise in effect, if you wanted something to blow up, if you wanted something to be a scandal, you would act exactly like Patel, Bongino, Pam Bondi and Trump are acting. And I've seen the Q people going, it's 90 trillion level chess. It's infinity chess. It's God. Trump is tricking the Democrats from demand the release of the list.

08:58 and the information. Trump has it, the DOJ has it, he's the president. We have control, you don't need the Democrats to release it, it's just delusion. I said on Monday, I said you watch, they're already trying to say Bondi got over skis and blame her. I'm not her, I apologize to the defenders, it's not her. She was told to say everything she said before, and it was accurate about the new information they raided in March out of the New York FBI offices where they've been suppressing it. So that's not what you do when you're involved in a cover up. And I said on Monday, a video I posted at 8 AM that I shot at 7.50 in the parking lot before I came to the office, that this isn't Bondi backtracking this and deep sixing this or 86ing this or memory holing it. No, this is Trump. And then I went through explaining why I believed it was and it's now that that's been confirmed. People, no, it's Bondi, it's not Trump. No, no, no, no, no. And then he puts out that afternoon the message

10:10 on True Social that he backs everything that Patel and Manchino did. And that now they can move on to more important things. And then yesterday he blew up at a reporter. He said he didn't want to hear about this anymore. So it is Trump. And that's not an attack on Trump. To understand what's happening, you need to understand it's Trump. Not, he doesn't know what's going on. It's not Trump. No, we already know what's going on. In the first limited hangout,

10:47 criminal prosecution of Epstein went 15 years ago in Florida by Republican US Attorney Alexander Acosta. It came out that he said he was told by US Intel, leave him alone or slap him on the wrist. That's what he got was a year in jail, only overnights in the jail. Epstein, they're in Florida. They're in the Palm Beach area. And he said, I was told he's intelligence by US intelligence. He didn't say what intelligence.

11:24 And he's been asked about it since then, and he says, I can't talk about it. And he showed all the articles, the videos, that's there. You have the head of Israel constantly, secretly trying to visit the New York facility of Epstein. Ehud Barak, he goes on and on. You have all these world leaders going to Epstein Island and Zorro Ranch. Not just American leaders, not just political leaders, but corporate leaders, academic leaders, top scientists, bankers. And so this was an intelligence agency operation and almost everyone involved in it knew they were getting into the globalist banking cartel system that's even above the CIA. That's just a governmental clearinghouse in an initiation, just like you see in the movie, eyes wide shut, just like you see with Bohemian Grove. And that's just an outer part of the cult.

12:31 You don't get into these organizations unless you bare minimum have sex with children. That is the initiation. And that's why Trump was always, and I've researched it, an outsider and did everything on his own with his family and was never in these clubs. But the Democrat leaders are just absolutely thick as thieves in this and some Republicans. You know, the Dennis Hasterts of the world. And we had Acosta resign as the Labor Secretary over Jeffrey Epstein plea deal.

13:10 And it was Trump brought him in. So US intelligence, the CIA under the Democrats and the globalists was using these blackmail files, these initiation events to control their people. That was the whole point of it. And then when Trump becomes president, and this time actually begins early in control of the deep state, would he then release all these bankers and tech titans and political leaders and indict them all for raping children?

13:52 And the argument would be, well, no, he can't do that. It'll bring down the whole US government. I'm not endorsing that. That's how this works. I'm explaining what's going on. Now, the question is, will he stop the human trafficking, sex slavery, or will he let Mossad, CIA, MI6 continue it on? Well, he can't even get his own staffers to do what he tells them. So, no, you have to expose the whole thing, send him to prison, or it does continue on. The argument that you can take control of it to manage it and limit it, That's a Zbigniew Brzezinski argument he made in books he wrote in the 70s about how Western intelligence runs human trafficking and sex slavery and pedophilia for control. So this is something the last few decades the American people have learned about. But when I was first getting on air 31 years ago, and immediately got a popular show, I got a chance to interview and get to know John DeCamp and all these other high-level whistleblowers

14:57 Ted Gunnarsson from the FBI, from the CIA, who had exposed giant human trafficking pedophile rings like Larry King, not the CNN anchor, Larry King, the Republican fundraiser. And in the 80s, and the operations they were running around the country, but mainly out of Omaha, Nebraska. So this isn't some new thing with Epstein. Epstein is a Mossad MI6 CIA triple agent, and they were in charge of initiating and blackmailing high-level initiates. Again, when an MS-13 person's about to become a made member, and they tell them, okay, go kidnap a kid, take him and torture him to death for Satan, that's their main initiation, become a high-level member. They're not being blackmailed, they're joining the club.

16:02 So that's how this system works. That's a fact. It's not debatable. So I understand the argument. I don't agree with it, but I understand the argument of this is too evil and too bad to bring out. It will bring down the whole US government. And so Trump grabs the files from the Democrats. They wouldn't give them in New York with cash for telling Bondi back in March, delivers the files and the terabytes of child rape and all the rest of it. to the FBI offices around the country. That's cocking the gun, loading the gun, cocking the gun, puts it to the head of the system. And you notice in March, as soon as he did that, you started seeing the establishment roll over faster and faster. Still, there's large parts of that happen. But at the top, they're bending the knee. He goes to NATO, now they basically fall down and worship him. He goes to the Middle East, same thing. I mean, it's because he now understands how things works, and he's getting in there. That's the thinking from Trump.

17:15 And I'm not defending it, I'm exposing it. Now, they are cutting down the 96% in new human trafficking in and they are going after the low-level rings and the slavery and all the rest of it. So I'm seeing major good moves and actual policy that affect the main. But when it comes to the specifics of this, separately, you have the giant PR disaster of having Mangino and Patel go on Fox a few months ago, like they're in the headlines and say, no, everything we told you before is not true, forget it, there's nothing.

17:53 And by the way, the guy at Butler acted alone as well. And the body language was just insanely over the top, like they were political prisoners and had guns to their heads. They're like political hostages. And then they go on that tour, spouting the same bull. And I said, they need to stop. And now you got Bondi and Trump doing it, when if they were gonna just fade this out and use it for deep state control of the deep state, that's what it is, is a control system of the deep state. It's the keys of the deep state. Why would you then run around and openly tie yourself to it by publicly covering it up in the most ridiculous way you could? Making the biggest example out of it you could. I mean, if you wanted to have a self-inflicted political wound, you couldn't do a better job. And people go, it's the trillion D Chess again. He wants the Democrats to demand its release. Where's the logic there? He can just release it. He has control of that. Why does he need them to demand it? That's just delusion.

19:06 And you notice Jamie Raskin and all the usual suspects, they're saying we want anything in the files with Donald Trump's name released. They don't want the main thing released. No, this is a firestorm for Trump. What happened is the deals Trump made with the deep state to stop attacking him if he did this, was you gotta now join it as an accessory after the fact. You've now gotta come out and say nothing's there. He wasn't even a sex trafficker. He didn't have any, there were no Marx, there was no blackmail when his accomplice Ghislaine Maxwell is in prison for human trafficking. So this is part of a deal that Trump made with these different factions. And I've talked to a lot of people the last few days, particularly last night and this morning, and they said, we concur with your analysis 100%. And with the points that you and Nick Floyd just have been making, they specifically brought him up.

20:21 We know Israel and its intelligence operations target the US heavily, target US President specifically in Congress. And that they're heavily involved in the joint blackmail file with the CIA and MI6 with Epstein who was a Mossad officer and took it over from Ghislaine Maxwell's father who was a high level Mossad operative. And so internally there's that whole battle and that Trump has been using that against Israel, not the other way around.

21:03 And then you see all the fawning of Netanyahu and Trump all over each other. You're the greatest man in the world, Trump says to him, you get the peace prize. He says back to Trump. And then behind the scenes, I know people that have been there, Trump does not like Netanyahu. There's a lot of problems with it. Remember, he was the first world leader to call and congratulate Biden when he stole the election in 2021. So what you see on the servers is not really what's going on. So I am not going to endorse any of this. I am simply sitting back and pointing out that this is clearly

21:42 what is going on, and people have a right to know that. But they always keep us in these lower level debates about who was Epstein intelligence. We have all the proof, we know it's ridiculous. And so yes, there's that argument, okay, well Trump did this because US intelligence was involved and it's too embarrassing for the CIA. And if it comes out all these bankers and academics and world leaders and politicians are involved in this, that will crash the stock market. But now you understand how these intelligence agencies do this so they can hold government society hostage, not just the people that have done the evil acts and have been compromised by design willfully in most cases, willingly as initiation, but the whole culture in the country and the currency itself. Now they have these very same networks in Europe, very same networks in the Middle East, it goes on everywhere. But British intelligence really perfected it in the last 100 years. And they're all over this. You got the King of England, not just his brother,

22:53 with Jimmy Savelle and serious pedophile networks controlling the British government. That's mainstream news over there. And we're talking murder children. We're talking kill them. In fact, when you get heavy into this stuff in these groups, that's like the scene as the hard liquor. People that are just raping kids are seen as, you just drink beer while I drink scotch. And that's come out. I mean, dungeons full of dead kids, you name it. And now we've got whistleblowers on Patrick David, very credible about how Trudeau's dad, she was supplied to him by David Rockefeller when he was prime minister. And he said, well, I'm not allowed to kill you. And that's how it works because she was a long term operative, smarter used for spying and things. But he goes, you tell David, I want a girl who looks just like you. She ain't going to full detail, but I know that some of the details, don't want to get that whisperer on, because what they like to do is kill you.

24:03 And so, I mean, look at the Savelle alone. What they would do is, I remember Gunnarsson telling me about this, how Satanists would get babies around the US too. And of course it came out in the UK, they were doing this. They'll have a poor woman comes in, she's starting to deliver a baby, it's only certain hospitals are controlled. They'll drug her up and for like three, four days, oh, your baby died. And then they take the baby and orphan it, sell it off, or they take its organs, or they take it and then rape it a bunch.

24:42 Depending on what group wants it, they may send it for a black mass with the Satanist, you know, slowly drain his blood over a night. That's a whole different ritual or they'll send over here people that just like to rape him to death. But the rule is, they'll have handlers there that take the baby when they're done. So it's all a big industry, obviously. So remember, Gunnarsson was telling me this stuff 31 years ago and I knew he was highly decorated and high level FBI. They wanted to be the director. You know, when he was younger, the head of the FBI in LA. But I believed him, but I still, it was unbelievable. And then over the decades, everything he said has come out. Everything, just all of it. The CIA, giant warehouse, the finders in DC, snuff film, satellite uplinks. I mean, Videodrome, but for real. Remember in Videodrome, Cronenberg movie?

25:31 James Woods starts getting into watching this weird channel on satellite of people being tortured. He thinks he's a TV executive. He's man, there's no budget, but I'm addicted. It's really possessing him. Watching this, it's real murders he's watching. He doesn't know it. And then he finally unscrambles it with his technicians and it's not coming out as some place in Asia, Bangkokers. No, it's coming out of Des Moines, Iowa. It's coming out of Kansas.

26:07 Because they're telling you back when Cronenberg made that move in the 80s They had one of those facilities with live satellite up links kids getting raped and tortured women get raped torture and I mean you just even came out, but they shut it down. So imagine you're Trump and you're handed this and Everybody's like Oh release it And you saw Bondi, well this isn't Epstein raping kids, but it's hundreds of kids being raped. That's their new spin. Earlier she said no, it's Epstein. She goes and that will never be released. Well, of course you don't release it, but you indict the people and then you show it to the juries and then they give them the death penalty. So that's how this works, ladies and gentlemen. Videodrome is a documentary. I just watched it again two weeks ago, it really freaked me out. I was like, oh my God.

29:32 Putin sends message to US with record 700 drone missiles in overnight attack on Ukraine, mainly targeting their capital Kiev. Panic in Brussels, globalists tremble as patriots for Europe group will lead negotiations on the EU's climate target and ditch the climate cult global carbon tax. I mean, it just goes on and on. Supreme Court rules eight to one to allow President Trump to cut federal workforce in any department he chooses, which is constitutional. It's these judges that are the tyrants. So getting back to the Epstein situation, to have this information, to have it suppressed, to have the huge scandal of the Democrat-controlled FBI in New York not releasing it to the head, FBI in DC, and the DOJ in DC when they were ordered to,

30:38 And to have that raid basically in March where they get the material, they report it to everybody, it's confirmed, I confirm from my FBI sources, it's been sent out to the field offices around the country. I'm like, this is incredible, they're really doing it. They're delivering on promises. People said, oh, it'll never happen, you watch. And I said, why would you then get all the material that's hidden by Comey and his daughter and then send it out? Well, that's because They were bringing it out the art of the deal in front of the deep state saying we're not playing around, we'll bring this out. And so that's what happened. And so people need to know what this is really all about. But you add to this Trump and Bondi shaking their fingers at press, pro-Trump press. It's like, hey, Epstein is intelligence. US attorney said that prosecuted the first case, which we already know. That's a pretty authoritative source. We have so many others.

31:48 And now we're not supposed to talk about that. In fact, he didn't even human traffic when his partner in crime, Ghislaine is in prison for that. That's why I said on Monday went viral. Next, the Justice Department on this trajectory will tell us that Jeffrey Epstein never existed. So why would they do this? There is no logic other than it was part of the deal, the deep state, to say, all right, to make sure you never bring this back against us again. Come out and say, put your name to it and say nothing exists, nothing ever happened. Jeffrey Epstein was an upstanding member of society. There was no money being given to him by anybody else, even though upwards of a billion dollars was drained out of his bank account right after he died. Oh, nobody's supposed to look into that.

32:51 Pam Bondi says the FBI delivered a truckload of Epstein files after she put on hard deadline. And they play the semantical rule. Well, there's no little black book that has a list of John's pedophiles. We think they call them that in the book. Do you think they just have one book? So they go, well, there's not a client list cuz maybe there's nothing listed saying it's that, but there's all the rape and the rest of it. But even the stuff she released Back in March when she got set up supposedly with the old files was a who Barack and other leaders and what type of girls they liked What what girls they've been given before? So even in the stuff the FBI released previously and a little bit of new stuff this year There's human trafficking right there. But now there was never any human trafficking. What an insult to everyone's intelligence And let me tell you 95% of the time Trump saying something. It's true. I defend it. I

33:59 I do it constantly. My job's easy, but not now. And I won't defend this. Tucker Carlson says this could trigger and spark a revolution. Ben Shapiro, though, is, in my view, I mean, definitely is from his actions, probably a Mossad agent, but definitely works for Israel, always has. He came out and said Epstein didn't do anything, basically, and there was no money funding him. Don't look into all the other known Israeli operatives, like Lex Wessner and all the rest of them. And by the way, you're either for Trump or Alex Jones. So he builds the straw man classic intelligence formula. It's coming up. You're either with the crazy person Alex Jones, or you're with Trump. And then he quotes CNN articles that are fake, that my lawyers said 12 years ago in a custody battle, that I'm an actor and nothing I say is real. It's not true that he ever said that. My ex-wife was trying to enter a parody I did where that clearly was acting.

35:08 I want to rest up like a month ago is cookie monster to joke was trying to fool you there and was the Joker talking about how good fluoride is in the water for kids because you know the Joker in the comic book lore likes to poison food and water and cosmetics and things like that kids take your prose act drink your fluoride take your drugs blah blah blah reverse psychology so kids won't and My lawyer said that's not admissible for the jury because that's obviously not the real Alex Jones. She was saying, look, he's crazy in the filing. He should have his kids taken away because he's got on makeup and is screaming and yelling. And my lawyer said in this case, you don't say Jack Nicholson is really the Joker because he's in the movie The Joker. It wasn't that everything I say is fake or I'm an actor. I may do parodies and jokes now once every three, four months, like when I did the gay frog.

36:06 What did I name him? Geronimo Frost. Does anybody think that's really the real me? It's me making a joke. No, 99% of the time or more, you know this broadcast, we're just right up here straight shooting and we tell you about something and then we show it to you. We tell you about legislation, we show it to you. We tell you Trump said something, we show it to you. And so there are literally, it's all over the news, all over TV, Alex Jones, the nut, is now saying Trump

36:43 It was covering up Epstein. And then the left will try to use it to act like I'm saying Trump's involved with Epstein. No, because they go, well, we've demonized Alex Jones so much. We'll just tie it all to him. You choose Alex Jones or you choose Donald Trump. That's a mindless discussion. As if you need to choose me or Trump, you can go back and remember what they said and what they did and what went on. And now how they've done a 180. This is about Alex Jones. It isn't about Ben Shapiro. It's about you. It's not about Tucker Carlson or Dan Bongino. It's about you. You know, you saw, you have, but no, notice, we'll get to it coming up. Shapiro's like, all of you that went off half-cocked over the years had all your ridiculous theories about Epstein. No, he acted alone. He wasn't an intelligence. No, he didn't have any help. Yeah, we just have the US attorney who prosecuted the case saying he was told he was intelligence, go light on it. And then we can also pull it up. AP, Reuters, you name it.

37:52 Giselaine Maxwell's little black book of clients, the court said, was suppressed to protect the clients in her show trial run by Maureen Comey, who also ran the P. Diddy and the Epstein and all of it. So, there's just no evidence. All you that believe all this Epstein stuff over the years, and that he was doing blackmail and all the rest of this, none of that's true. There's no intelligence connections because Dan Bongino says so, and if you don't agree with that, you're with Alex Jones. Giseline Maxwell's little black book to remain secret after Judge Warren's against needless name dropping. Oh, it's needless to learn who's in here. But she's convicted of human trafficking, but you'll hear Shapiro say, no human trafficking, because they put out a two-page memo and said so. Okay, and how do you expect us not to sit here and go, what in the world is this?

39:06 I gotta tell you, I think they thought because Trump has so much support, has done such a great job overall, and survived the assassination attempts on the law fair, that when he came out and said on, and did all this, that we would just say, okay, almost no one is buying this. And people are being told now, other prominent talk show hosts, I'm not gonna name them, though some are going public, you keep reporting on this, you're not gonna have White House credentials. You're not gonna get invited to Air Force One. You're not gonna blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. The FBI's doing that. Why would the FBI put itself in a position of total damage control? Because Bongino and Patel and Trump were manipulated by people telling them shut this down, move on from this, knowing it would create a firestorm. And now the deep state will come and say don't worry, we'll manage this, we'll control this, we'll start censoring. We can protect you. So they maneuver them into an unmitigated Streisand effect disaster. And then out from under a rock crawls the discredited

40:09 Israel firsters, Mark Levin and Shapiro and the rest of them to say Alex Jones just hates America. Alex Jones is an actor, everything he says is fake. Really, everything I say I show you. So let's remember what Trump did yesterday, seems like a thousand years ago with Pam Bondi to a very serious question about US intelligence, intelligence connections to Epstein. And then they just shut it down. That's old news. We don't want to talk about that. And then I'll show you right after the clip, the articles and documents with the US attorney at the time saying just that and even in court and then later saying I can't address that because it's classified. Go ahead and roll it.

41:02 clip one. Alex Kostak, he allegedly said that he did work for an intelligence agency. So could you resolve whether or not he did? And also, can you say why there was a minute missing from the jailhouse tape on the night of the incident? Yeah, sure. If I could- Can I just interrupt for a second? Sure. Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? This guy's been talked about for years. You're asking, we have Texas, we have this, we have all of the things. And are people still talking about this guy, this creep?

41:46 That is unbelievable. Do you want to waste the time? Do you feel like answering? I don't mind answering. I mean, I can't believe you're asking a question on Epstein at a time like this where we're having some of the greatest success and also tragedy with what happened in Texas. It just seems like a desecration. But you go ahead. Sure, sure. First, to back up on that, in February, I did an interview on Fox, and it's been getting a lot of attention because I said, I was asked a question about the client list and my response was, it's sitting on my desk to be reviewed, meaning the file along with the JFK, MLK files as well. That's what I meant by that.

42:33 Also to the tens of thousands of video, they turned out to be child porn downloaded by that disgusting Jeffrey Epstein. Child porn is what they were. Never gonna be released, never gonna see the light of day. To him being an agent, I have no knowledge about that. We can get back to you on that. And the minute missing from the video, we released the video showing definitively, the video was not conclusive, but the evidence prior to it was showing he committed suicide. And what was on that, there was a minute that was off the counter. And what we learned from Bureau of Prisons was every year, every night, they redo that video. It's old, from like 1999. So every night the video is reset and every night should have the same minute missing. So we're looking for that video to release that as well, showing that a minute is missing every night. And that's it on Epstein.

43:32 All right, Roger Stone, obviously confidant of Trump for 47 years, no pun intended, lives there in Palm Beach, constantly at Mar-a-Lago. Ran into Epstein, knows all the players, knows the US Attorney. He knew about this for 15 years, but I'll get to this next hour after he leaves us, but he'll be with us a little bit in the next hour as well. When you got Ben Shapiro out saying, see, no intelligence links because of this FBI memo. We have the US attorney that prosecuted him saying he was an intelligence and that's why they were asked to cover up and go light on him. So here are the articles, no regrets in a very hard question. Alex Acosta defends Jeffrey Epstein plea deal.

44:12 In the article out of Newsweek from years ago, talks about how he was told US intelligence or in intelligence. Here's another one, Jeffrey Epstein, six story played out years in plain sight. Here it is right there. And of course, Roger Stone recently put out this tweet when Alexander Acosta, the US attorney for South Florida who gave Epstein a pass on sex trafficking charges was appointed Secretary of Labor. He was asked why he would say about his handling of the Epstein case if asked about it in the US Senate confirmation hearings. Acosta said, I'll tell the truth that he worked for the CIA and the case was sealed at their request. And here he is then being asked about it and saying he can't comment. Here's the video.

45:14 So so so there has there has been reporting to that effect and let me there's been reporting to a lot of effects in in in this case. Not just now but over the years and again I would. I would hesitate to take this reporting as fact. This was a case that was brought by our office. It was brought based on the facts. And I look at that reporting and others, I can't address it directly because of our guidelines. But I can tell you that a lot of reporting is just

45:52 going down rabbit holes. A few more questions. Have you asked a question yet? I have. How about in front of you? Roger, you have been right there at point blank range with Trump for 47 years. I hate to see Trump do things that I know are going to really cause a giant strides in effect it obviously has now Patrick McDavid and others Tucker Carlson are saying this is an unmitigated disaster we're not saying that to make it a bigger disaster we're saying it so that the ongoing disaster stops like you and I did two months ago when Patel and Bongino were on Fox like deer in the headlights

46:33 Putting out the same ridiculous garbage. We said look for if national security, whatever you're gonna cover it up We don't agree with that but shut up And then now the pressure campaign from the FBI is happening to a bunch of prominent talk shows I've talked to them some have gone public now They're getting calls saying you're gonna be basically kicked out of the White House You're gonna be persona Grada to them if you even have guest on about this so I This is not good and it's starting to have a little bit of a Nixonian flavor to it, Roger. You were also there for that, the confidant of Richard Nixon. We got five minutes to break. We'll do 15 minutes with this next hour. Stonezone.com. Thanks for popping on on short notice, Roger. How do we deal with this?

47:17 Oh Alex, first of all it's interesting because we reported that Alex Acosta conversation on your show only days ago and that was a non-answer. That's because Acosta said exactly what I said he said in my 2015 book, The Clinton's War on Women. Longest chapter in that book is on Jeffrey Epstein and I name his clients. former Governor Bill Richardson of New Mexico, former U.S. Senate Majority Leader George Mitchell of Maine, former Israel Prime Minister Elihud Barak.

47:54 Stephen Hawking's The Scientist, and of course Prince Andrew. So we have to assume first of all the international pressure on the Trump administration not to engage in full disclosure has to be enormous. However, I think this is really pretty simple. On July 8, 2019, under the Trump administration, Jeffrey Epstein was charged in Manhattan with two crimes. Count one was sex trafficking of minors, violation of 18 U.S. Code 1591, and conspiracy to commit sex trafficking of minors, violation of 18 U.S.C.

48:34 And the search warrants are still open. by directing the US attorney, the acting US attorney, the interim US attorney in the Southern District of New York to go into federal court and ask the court to unseal those documents. They didn't indict this guy without evidence, and the evidence has to be within those documents. When when Kash Patel and Dan Bongino tell you they don't have the evidence, they're not lying. The evidence was destroyed by the previous administration. They can't give you what they do not have. But the court has this information and they should move aggressively to ask that it be unsealed.

49:26 That's a great point. And I don't know if you've talked to the president yet since this firestorm went into high gear yesterday with a statement at the press conference. But what do you think the president should do? Simply call for the court records to be released? Well, I think he should direct his attorney general, Pam Bondi, again, to direct the US attorney in the Southern District to move in front of a federal judge to unseal all of these documents. They indicted Epstein on the basis of substantial information, a very serious indictment. And then you go to the second question of whether Epstein killed himself. We can start on this now and talk about it on the other side. But as you know, the New York medical examiner Michael Baden probably

50:11 one of the most respected pathologists in the country, a guy who's looked at a thousand hanging cases, examined Epstein's body and said that his injuries were not consistent with him hanging himself. I don't know how you just discard that as a fact. We also know that two days prior to Epstein's death, he retained a new criminal defense attorney. David Shone reached a retainer agreement with him on a Thursday to take over his criminal defense. In America, everybody, even the most heinous criminals, are entitled to a criminal defense. And he was reportedly telling people like his brother he would be getting out soon. Stay there, let's do 50 more minutes. I want to talk big picture with this.

56:17 So I'm coming to you asking you to continue to commission us in this fight. We've already delivered you more victories against the enemy than any other media operation in the world. And I'm asking you again for all of our collective futures to come to our aid now more and take your fight to the 110% level. Tell the truth, be accurate, stand against evil, have courage until it's not even having courage, it's what you are. All right, Roger, there's a lot of other stuff on the radar screen. And after you leave, I'm going to go through all these clips of Patrick McDavid and Tucker and Others saying this is a disaster. I mean, I can tell you, but overall agree with what you're saying here. My big concern is who is advising, who is coming up? Why is it good to have Bongino and Patel and Pam Bondi and now Trump going out and contradicting stuff that they said in the last few years, the last few months, if

57:18 If US intelligence is involved, they've hidden most of the evidence and destroyed it, and Trump wants to move on to try to save the economy and stop the current human trafficking. Why not just say that? Why freak out on reporters? Why come out and wag their fingers at people and say you need to stop talking about this? I mean, anybody knows that if you tell people don't look into something or don't talk about it, I mean, That is gonna have the exact opposite effects. So great advice. Hey, you've got you know him being indicted in New York You've got the court case There's the evidence there of the human trafficking. How can gasoline be in jail for human trafficking? But now this new memo says that there is no human trafficking. I mean, this is just preposterous. What else should Trump do?

58:05 I think he has to make a clean abreast of it. I suspect, this is speculation, I'm not going to say this on the air, but don't you think the Israelis, the Brits, the Saudis, everybody else who has dirty laundry here is saying to Trump, you know, this is, we can't have this out. This is very problematic for us. At the same time, he's trying to negotiate a peace deal on a World War III. I said yes on my part, I haven't talked to him about this. No, there's no doubt that's what's not a guess. Obviously, the entire establishment would come down. And so all these allies are bare minimum begging, you know, especially the British do not release this. I think that's a no brainer. Why then come out and slap people around and say stop asking questions?

58:51 Look, I'm not sure. First of all, the president's got larger things on his mind at the moment. He's trying to negotiate a peace deal both between the Russians and the Ukrainians. He's trying to negotiate a peace deal. Obviously, between the Iranians and Israel, you've got a fragile ceasefire. The economy is cooking like never before. I can only speculate. I'm not going to say this as a statement, but I suspect, given the fact that a former Israeli prime minister, a member of the British royal family, among others, visited the island multiple times, they weren't going there for the weather.

59:32 that there has to be international pressure to make this issue go away. But at the grassroots, Alex, she knows that it's not going to go away. The president knows the American people deserve truth, transparency, and justice, particularly when it concerns those who think they're above the law. I don't think this administration has lost sight of that. And I think he understands the gravity of the Epstein case. But there's a time to speak and a time to act. There are obviously certain ongoing operations, strategic, legal, international in nature that require patience and precision. And to prematurely release information as I think Pam Bondi unfortunately did has not been helpful. But justice delayed is not justice denied, it's justice be prepared. So what you're saying- So you're saying that's not just a cover story blaming Bondi for getting ahead of her skis.

1:00:30 I mean, you think legitimately from what you've seen, she heard about this stuff, talked about this stuff, and then it wasn't accurate? I think she just, first of all, I think that much of what she put forward, much of which was contained in my 2015 book, She was unaware of previously. So this was news to her. I don't think she recognized that most of the people knew who had visited, some of the dignitaries who had visited the island and so on. I'm not sure she ever knew that Alex Acosta identified Epstein

1:01:07 As a CIA operative. They want to put me in prison. They want to put Roger in prison. They want to cut your son's genitals off, your daughter's breasts off. We know they're the enemy. They're attacking ICE facilities, shooting police, burning things down, barely even hitting the news. Democrats are openly in the news saying we want blood. Our constituents want blood. We're going to start confrontations with the feds so they kill a bunch of us. I mean, the Podesta plan is now in action. I want to hit some of that with Roger Stone.

1:01:51 And last night I shot a report when this broke, FBI launches criminal investigation of John Brennan, James Comey, DOJ sources tell Fox News. And the first thing everybody asked was, well, is this to change the subject from the Epstein, what looks like whitewash operation that's going on? And I said, I'm not sure But the timing is interesting, but I said regardless, we've been hearing this criminal investigation is going on. We've been seeing Trump call them out and we've been seeing the documents released by the CIA last week from Radcliffe that are smoking gun that Roger Stone and General Flynn and Trump and I live. So I know we first reported on it, Roger and I in 2017, we figured it all out before we knew the name Crossfire Hurricane. And

1:02:40 Now you have the Director of National Intelligence a few months ago releasing all those documents as well. This is open and shut. Not just that, oh, they knew Hillary was cooking up a fake Russia dossier to election metal and then try to have a coup once Trump was elected based on lies to call all of his constituents Russian agents, not just the president, and then persecute us with the power of the state. But that it was directed by Obama and by Brennan and Clapper and Comey, the same Comey, one month after he was put in 2013, who then started a national security investigation or orders of Obama on me. That's not declassified. So yeah, I need Trump to succeed. I need Trump to be the real deal. And

1:03:20 And there's a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes. I'm not going to be apologetic for any of it. We don't know enough, but there's a lot of international deals being made. I'm going to get into Epstein, the really hardcore stuff and the firestorm over it with Tucker Zink, Cause of Revolution, Patrick McDowd, in a few minutes when Roger leaves us. But front and center, we need to take down the Democrat globalist crime syndicate that's stolen trillions of dollars and is funding radical Islam and opening the borders and promoting pedophilia. And this is a big deal. Trump has said he wants prosecutions, not just to these guys, but to Majorca's for human trafficking. So that's good. And I'll tell you what will make everybody really be happy and also feel a lot safer, including Trump, who's the big target. They already tried to kill him, and we know it's these guys, is indictments of the globalist kingpins. And you and I have said years ago before Trump got back in, the main targets who Trump should go after first is Comey, Brennan, and Clapper. You get them, the whole house of cards falls. So

1:04:18 This is a big deal. Do you think this is actually really going on for my sources? I said months ago that you look up Alex Jones on X There is a criminal investigation of Comey Clapper and Brennan. You pull it up at sources and I said specifically They're the first three that they're going after you can find that so Roger. What do you know? Look, while I thought that the report by CIA Director Radcliffe the other day was good, it was the most shallow reveal of the version of the truth. And I think it conceals a great deal and that the deep state still is protected. I think it was done

1:05:01 preempt a far more stunning report by the House Intelligence Committee under leadership of Congressman Rick Crawford. Crawford's report is supposedly far more devastating, far more damning, but it includes classified documents that will require the declassification from the President of the United States. So this has been moving along on a parallel track. I reject this idea that this is being done to distract From the Epstein situation, I think the FBI investigation into Comey and Brennan is correctly based on this new CIA report. But even that report, I think, is lacking. In fact, everything in that report

1:05:51 had already been reported by the great Lee Smith, who wrote the plot against the president. Most of it were things we already knew. So the fact that John Brennan insisted that the Steele dossier, which was a fugazi, was a fraud paid for by Hillary Clinton, was included in President Obama's Intelligence Committee Community Assessment Report, was convenient because Obama was waiting for it. Obama knew it was a fraud as well. Andrew Weissman, the most corrupt prosecutor in federal history, knew all the way back to his days as the general counsel to the FBI that the Steele dossier was a fraud. But they used it anyway. And I now think, and I continue to think, that Brennan not only did this, but he clearly lied

1:06:43 before Congress about it. Now, since they charged me with lying to Congress, despite the fact that any misstatement I made to Congress was immaterial, none of it hid any underlying crime, Brennan should at a minimum be charged with lying to Congress under oath because he lied very specifically about the circumstances under which the Steele dossier was included in this intelligence community report. I think that it is vitally important that those who tried to destroy President Trump, tried to destroy General Flynn, tried to destroy me, tried to destroy you, Alex, these people should be prosecuted. And John Durham,

1:07:28 did kind of a half-assed job in his report. First of all, why did he take five years to tell us what we already knew? Well, that's because the statute of limitations, if it viewed narrowly, would have run out. And therefore, Hillary and Podesta and Robby Mook And Jake Sullivan, as well as Comey, Brennan, McCabe, Rosenstein would not technically be indictable, except the crime of treason has no expiration date, has no statute of limitations. So, and I think that there's a broader indictment here possible against the ringleaders of the greatest single dirty trick

1:08:14 American political history the single greatest abuse of power in which they use the full authority of the US government. as well as the capabilities of our intelligence agencies, utilizing two fraudulent pieces of evidence, the Steele dossier and the false claim that the Russians hacked the DNC, for which there is no evidence or proof whatsoever. It's a figment of John Brennan's evil imagination. So I think they need to be brought to justice. I think this is very important, not only to the president, but to the people in the country who will finally see that we have accountability and we don't have a two-tiered justice system. I was charged with lying to Congress when I didn't lie to Congress. John Brennan did lie to Congress about something quite material. He should be charged. Well, I mean, Clapper famously did. He said the NSA has never spotted an American citizen inside the U.S.

1:09:12 And that they had no metadata collection program, which of course Edward Snowden proved was a blatant lie. I think General Flynn was the one who said it, but he's right. If you indict Clapper, he will turn and testify against all of the other rats. Absolutely. In closing over at StoneZone.com, In general, you've known Trump 47 years. From my sources, many others, and just watching him, he's way more focused, way more zen, but also more, I would say, not even angry, just way more serious, and also very, very confident. I would almost call it fatalistic in that he's committed to what he's doing. And I think a lot of what we're seeing now is that where

1:10:03 Whatever he thinks is the most important thing, whatever he thinks the focus is, he then gets mad at anything else he sees as a distraction. Because when I saw that shocking press conference where he got so mad about the Epstein thing... I said, wow, it looks like he really is upset about this coming out. But then I started realizing the last few months more and more, I've seen him on other issues where he's like, I don't want to hear about that. This is the issue. World War III and energy and jobs and the fentanyl on the border. And so you know Trump well. How would you describe the Trump 2.0 we can all see compared to the way he was before?

1:10:41 Extraordinarily focused. And by the way, Alex, he's right. I'm not trying to minimize the Epstein thing, but a dead sex trafficker who's no longer exploiting and torturing underage children. While it's important, it's not as important as averting World War. which is what he's trying to do in two different theaters. I'm not saying we shouldn't have full disclosure on Epstein, we definitely should. But when you consider the fact that we have 30 million illegals in the country, that's the number I think is correct. And we probably have sleeper cells in the country. And they brought a huge number of weaponry into the country, not to mention fentanyl.

1:11:25 He's dealing with some huge issues that are hurting the country today. Thank God that Jeffrey Epstein is dead because he can't hurt any more children. That's a good thing. I'm trying to minimize it, but the president is focused on the big picture challenges to the country, and he's making very real progress, progress on tariffs. The biggest tax cuts in American history have just been extended. 88% of the American people will not pay taxes on their social security payments to them. We now have the funding for ICE and for the deportations, and we can build the strategic defense initiative, the Golden Dome, to protect our country from incoming ICBM. Roger, I know you gotta go, and now Bassett says they're setting a $300 billion now, the tariffs are working, but let me ask you about this. I mentioned this, just a brief couple minutes on this.

1:12:20 You have two ICE facilities in Texas attacked, gunfire, cops shot, anti-terrorist, but the FBI will still not designate them as a terror group. You've got all these other Democrats running around. There needs to be blood, Democrat lawmakers, Alexios, that they're constituents want violence and want to elicit a response from Trump so they can play victim and have a civil war. That's the Podesta plan. What do you make of this? And their no kings thing fizzling out to a great extent. I mean, but it appears they're still trying to get a civil war going. I think they would be very, very unwise to test Donald J. Trump. You notice that unlike when we had the Antifa BLM riots during his first term,

1:13:07 And he was persuaded to let governors make decisions about how to deal with that. As soon as you had problems in Los Angeles, he mobilized the National Guard. He also sent in the Marines. Those who think that they can mount an insurrection are going to see that insurrection crushed. The first responsibility of the president of the United States is to maintain order. That is his responsibility. under the Constitution. This president has already demonstrated that he will do that. So those who are planning violence, they better think twice. Donald Trump is not to be trifled with. He will be a law and order president and he will maintain order and protect the American people. Roger Stone, StoneZone.com. Thank you so much. Thank you, Alex. God bless you. All right.

1:13:57 We have Matt Bracken, Navy SEAL, counterterrorism expert, best-selling author, joining us in the fourth hour to talk about something that's not getting attention that I covered a lot yesterday and just covered for a few minutes. I mean, the Democrats and their operatives, their minions, are gearing up for mass violence. I mean, it's already happening. Can you imagine if Republicans or conservatives went and shot up two ICE facilities and shot a cop? And that's barely in the news. And there's all sorts of stuff like this happening. I got a big stack on that. That's fourth hour. I'm gonna have Kyle Serafin pop in for just 30 minutes, the FBI whistleblower, because he pointed out to me and I also got some calls. Some of the prominent influencers and talk show hosts that are getting calls from the FBI, hey, you might get kicked out of the White House or whatever. If you keep reporting on this, that is the dumbest thing to do ever. Don't start acting like the Democrats. And whoever's giving the FBI the advice to do this, I mean, you're being set up.

1:14:57 Okay, think about Watergate and the plumbers that was a CIA deal to set up Nixon So Trump's got to be very careful about inside groups and subgroups Doing things supposedly in his name that aren't in his name and remember this what I'm saying now mark this down I need Trump to succeed. Believe me. I Mean the deep state is coming after my ass. I need them derailed. I need them shut down I need them in prison. That's why it makes me physically sick of to see all this happening. Now, I want to spend a little bit more time on the Epstein situation and then I want to get into the military news. We'll play the new audio. Trump in their new leaked audio threatened to bomb Moscow if Putin attacked Ukraine as well as Beijing if they move to Taiwan. Meanwhile, Putin sends message to US with record 700 drones missiles on Ukraine overnight.

1:16:01 So we're off to the races there. Israel wants more strikes on Iran. That's coming up and so much more today. Bunch of big new AI developments. Trump admin walks back amnesty suggestion says mass deportations will continue. Well, they don't need to walk it back. Trump always said they do some worker visas for farm workers once they clamp down and made sure that they kick people out first. So again, I keep seeing that as much to about nothing. Again, that's just my opinion. But when I think Trump's doing something bad, I'll say it. When I think he's doing something good, I'll say it. And it's just been a no brainer that he can fire any federal employees he wants. And now the Supreme Court 8 to 1, it says, of course. So it's not Trump being the tyrant, it's the left. And they want to try to force him to act like a tyrant with mass uprisings. Now, back to the Epstein situation.

1:17:00 The way they've had Bongino and Patel, it's all unified front, Trump, Pambondi, the Attorney General, come out and 180 what they said in the last few years, the last few months, and tell us, no, he didn't even involve himself in trafficking, though his girlfriend's convicted of it. He was indicted for it in New York and then died is an insult. And then he, he killed himself. Look, here's a camera that he was showing his jail cell. So why are they out doing that? Why are they telling us to shut up? And now the Democrats want to subpoena all this stuff. No, it's not to get it released. They could release it. No, it's because the deal's been made with the deep state to have them back off and then in foreign governments and to get in line with Trump policy, and then they won't release it. And part of the deal is they've got to come out and say, there's nothing there, so they're tied to it. It can't double cross the globalists later. The question is, will Trump just become the globalist now by doing this? Or will he continue the reforms? And we know Israel is heavily involved with Epstein and the CIA.

1:18:06 I'm told by very high-level sources that that's what this is is an internal fight over that file between those two groups US intelligence and Israeli intelligence and I think it's a roaming clear. That's what's happening So we'll continue to watch this as it unfolds but for heaven's sakes no more Press conferences saying shut up. Don't ask questions. All you're gonna get is questions out of that and I am really Really trying to not get the Trump administration to self-harm here. Okay? Please, please get your head out of that noose. Please don't pour gasoline on yourself. Please don't blow your feet off with a shotgun. Please, please, please. And I will always tell an organization, a group, an individual, my family, anybody I care about, how I tell the bad guys all the time, give up, roll over, stop. I will tell you exactly what I'm thinking.

1:19:00 Because support of Trump does not mean mindlessly when he's making major errors in my view to support it. And here's Patrick David basically agreeing with what I've been saying since Monday, that this is in the last 160 days, 170 days now, this is by far the worst event out of the Trump administration, out of a wide spectrum of great things that have been happening. There is a reason why people are asking about this. This is by far, and I'm a supporter, three times I voted for this man, this is by far the biggest fumble of the administration they've had thus far. And here's the reason why. If you remember pre the president winning, he had a conversation with Fox News, the great Rachel Campos Duffy. And she asked Mr. President, 9-11, yes. John F. Kennedy, yes. Epstein,

1:19:51 He didn't say yes. He was a little bit hesitant of bringing that information out. Why? So why does his leadership team go out there and like we have this information and we're going to release this and cash in. Let me tell you what we have with Pam Bondi out of state of Florida. She knew everything about Bondi about Epstein. Why are you fumbling this? Why are you not having an emergency meeting together to conversate and say, hey, we're gonna be on the same page with messaging on this. All you have to do is send a message to everybody, say, God, let's have a conference call. Here's what we're gonna be saying about this because this was a very important issue to not 80% of the voters that voted for President Trump, but I think 20% of the voters wanted to know what's gonna happen with Epstein and it's a big letdown. Normally when I come, I give a very positive message. My only suggestion, no more fumbles.

1:20:38 You're having the greatest start ever as a president. There's going to be Nobel Prize, but a lot more than that. I believe he has a shot at going down as one of the greatest presidents of all time and competing for some of the top five type of list. But we have to have an emergency meeting and saying collectively, no more fumbles. This is all about Prince Andrew. It's all about Abu Barak. I've studied this. Trump He's not an underage girls, he would never compromise himself. He's been outside this group. That's why he's always kind of an outlier who was able to come in at the very top and take over. And the question is, will he dismantle them or will he become the boss of them? And overall, he's dismantling them, that's why they hate him. So I'm cautiously optimistic here. But no, this is about Israel and it's about the UK.

1:21:29 And anybody who hasn't studied the royal family and pedophilia, I mean, they're more associated with pedophilia than bees are with honey, than white is on rice. That water being wet. I mean, it is pedophile Satan worship, human sacrifice central. And that's just the facts. And so yeah, there's a clip yesterday, another Patrick Bedeva clip where he has a well-known whistleblower. It's very credible, I'm gonna get her on. Everything she says lines up with the MO I have about Justin Trudeau's dad, like him too. kill kids. Well, it came out about Lord Heath and others decades after was an independent media that he was getting kids from Epstein. She's me from Jimmy Savile there Epstein, the top confidant of Prince Charles, now the king of England, who did get found with a satanic dungeon dead kids did

1:22:23 Get you know kids they would say had died at the hospital both Teenagers five ten six seven eight year old babies. They would go to these hospitals run by Satanist They would kill kids in the in the special wings of the hospitals say oh, sorry your kid died No, really Jimmy Savelle and his buddies would come in and kill him I mean, you can't make this stuff up, folks. You type it in, you'll have like BBC, you know, Daily Mail. I mean, it's just, it's unbelievable. Before all this stuff was online, though, I'd have like Ted Gunnarson, former head of the FBI in LA, telling me this stuff. And he was super credible, but I didn't disbelieve him. But I was just like, really? He's like, yeah, they got auctions and underground bases in Vegas where they kidnap the kids around the world and sell them and they load them on private jets. And then, of course, it just keeps coming out, coming out, coming out.

1:23:09 So it is just beyond evil. And so larger than the Epstein thing, we need to stay focused on this because this is the heart of their control system. First of all, you know, congratulating Tucker on having the humility to admit that he was wrong, to change his mind when presented with alternative evidence. She's saying it's fallen, building 7. New York skyline, a symbol on by the mayor, Rudy Giuliani. much earlier today because of the course the dreadful collapse of the twin towers of the World Trade Center. To wake up and not just correct his wrong beliefs but actually work to not make the same mistake again. So he feels guilty about being a propagandist who helped contribute to the build-up to the war in Iraq and he's now

1:23:52 Working as hard as he can to not make that mistake again to prevent the next major Middle East war You were a vocal defender of the Iraq war. I was a promoter of the Iraq war apparently unlike you I was dumber and I think that you just articulated the main lesson of it Which is it's hard to do that and we're not good at it either you are with us or or you are with the terrorists. It's about Tucker Carlson having this awakening and having the tenacity to admit he was wrong and work to, you know, make up for his past mistakes. But also, again, just the legendary, like, mythical aspect of the fact that decades ago, Alex Jones served as the spirit guide, as the wise old man in the beginning of the heroic cycle, showing them a different way, pulling back the curtain and showing them the real world beyond the cave.

1:24:42 You keep telling me to shut up. This isn't a game. And it didn't happen right away, and they didn't like him right away necessarily. Tuck Carlson was not very friendly about Alex Jones before they met and before he realized that he was wrong. But just planting that seed, cracking that hole in the veil has led to these people actually having platforms to change the course of history. It's the fulfillment of the plan. The real plan has been the Alex Jones plan all along, the awakening. the infil war, the fires of human liberty being kindled in the hearts of the likes of Tucker Carlson and Joe Rogan who can go on to spread those fires everywhere. It's just an amazing accomplishment, it's an amazing success story and sometimes it takes a tragedy, an attack, a false flag attack like 9-11 to be the catalyst for that. It's something that you can take and

1:25:29 as evil and as despicable and as destructive as it was, even in that destruction they planted the seed of the awakening that would set things right. And Alex Jones recognized that and harnessed it and activated it and weaponized it against the New World Order. And here they are flailing and desperate and more exposed than they've ever been. The awakening is only increasing. And it's just a story for the ages. We are living through truly historical times and getting to witness it all firsthand and participating in it by sharing the stories and in being a part of this awakening. And of course, going to thealexjonestore.com and making sure that we have this platform that has already changed the world and shifted the paradigm and opened up new vistas of possibility for America to pursue. It's just an incredible thing. So please do support us at thealexjonestore.com. All right, so let's get back into the Epstein Firestorm because it's not going to go away.

1:26:22 And this is how the public finally woke up to the international intelligence satanic cults that have been around for thousands of years and basically founded the modern intelligence agencies we have. And then I want to talk about Ben Shapiro. This is a lot bigger than Ben Shapiro. It's about the methodology of how these disinformation operations work. And you know when Ben Shapiro and Mark Levin come out from under the rocks, that they're working for Benjamin Netanyahu, and they know exactly what they're doing. And they don't want this Epstein situation looked into. And they tell you, like Shapiro does, oh look, the case is closed now. There was never anything going on, and there was no money.

1:27:18 Oh, it was reasonable to see if anybody was giving Epstein money, you know, from nowhere, he just gets billions of dollars, all these airplanes and mansions. But now that's all over, he acted alone. And it wasn't even human driving him. Really, his girlfriend, partner in crime just got convicted of human driving him. So this is a big deal. They want this shut down. And they're there running defense for the DOJ at a level that shows coordination. Which again is the deal with Netanyahu and the Israelis that have been using Epstein to blackmail the US to stop doing it and hand the file over to Trump. That's what happened. I said that Monday was my approximation because it was already going on. We already know the case. And I've talked to a lot of very intelligent, dialed in people and they say, Alex, that is exactly what's going on. And Trump thinks that the information that's in this comes out, it will derail the entire West.

1:28:26 and cause a political civil war. Well, we're already pretty much in one. And my view is these networks will just continue on. Epstein was just one of many, though his clientele was, you know, top level scum like Bill Gates. Of course, we got Bill Gates's, you know, wife admitting that. You got Bill Gates claiming that Epstein was trying to blackmail him. Oh, but there's no blackmail because a two-page memo was put out by the DOJ that completely contradicts everything they said. We can't be in a position When they feed us rocks and tell us they're strawberries. There I use the nice analogy. I didn't say piss on us and tell us it's raining, though I just did. Crap on us and tell us to love it. So just whoever's coming up with these ideas is setting up the Trump administration. And that's what Kyle Serafin said on Monday, he believes it is, cuz he understands how this works, and I agree with him. Again, Nixon was barely even involved with the plumbers, they did it on their own.

1:29:37 He told them go get dirt on people, the CIA was running them, then they set up Nixon who they hated. And they got him through that. So Trump's busy and he's got his people running around getting all this bad advice. And I'm not defending any of this by saying it, I just know how all this stuff works. And I know in general what's going on, I don't know all the specific details. Here's Tucker Carlson warns Epstein case could spark revolution. But how can you say that thousands of children were raped, but I'm not going to find out who raped them? How can you say that? I agree. I agree completely. They said that. By the way, when Pam Bondi went on television and said, I have a videotape of kids getting abused, I followed this case closely, and I know a lot of the people involved, as I've told you. I had no idea. I didn't know that. Really? Thousands of children got raped?

1:30:35 Who raped them? Where are the rapists? Like why aren't they in jail? What this is my Department of Justice? Yes. That is so crazy. This is like this is honestly one of the craziest things I've ever seen in my entire life and I just think it's Very dangerous to play around with this stuff like very dangerous. Well, it's I don't want a revolution But if you wanted a revolution, this is how you would act. Yes. Yeah, exactly. I So for national security reasons and all the rest of it, I'm not defending that but I can understand the argument. Then just say, oh, we're still investigating. And then investigate, make sure you can shut down the networks, it's not still going on. Like they're doing with the border and even trafficking there, they've really done that. Don't run around then and 180 what you said before and then get mad at people and say, shut up about it and don't ask questions. Like Tucker said, I mean, you could not do a worse action. And I'm just watching

1:31:37 The Trump administration self harm and I'm just sitting here saying, you're the lifeboat here. We know the Democrats and the globalists are as evil as it gets. We know it's 90 plus percent Democrats and leftist with the Epstein thing. We know it's Bill Gates and all the rest of them. Why would you do this? And it's because they made a deal to roll over and stop opposing Trump. You can already see it. And they said, just one thing, We want you to join in the cover up with us, so you'll never bring it out against us again. We want you to say it's closed and there was nothing there. And they give them a list of it, and then it happens. And Trump just thinks it's the right thing to do and he's got so much support he can do it. I mean, it's not like I'm not up here telling Trump how to cover things up. I'm here exposing the whole thing, but I'm also saying who isn't giving you people this advice? Cuz for heaven's sakes, if you're going

1:32:38 to use the blackmail file on the deep state and you're going to do all that, then shut up. Don't treat us like we're stupid, because we're not. And then if you want us to go along with this BS, we then psychologically and spiritually become complicit and I can't do that. I get the world's a rough place, I get those political decisions. I understand how people come to these conclusions, which I don't agree with. Though I've asked the question, how do you with hundreds and hundreds of prominent people raping children,

1:33:15 including corporate leaders, bankers, academia, and government officials. How does the public deal with that? Well, I just think we have to, because all the disruption, all the problems that will come out of that are nothing compared to these groups continuing on and where they're taking us, hell itself. Though they've got a lot of power and have threatened to sabotage things, and they're not gonna go quietly. It's like Napoleon twice, had so many forces spread out that when he got beaten, they said, well, you have your own island, you know, a thousand people to take care of you. Just promise you'll tell your people to give up and give us your networks. But he didn't really give his networks up and he gets put on an island and then he comes back and takes over again. The next time they go, okay, you get 20 servants or whatever. And you're going way out in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean. So it's called

1:34:14 capitulation. And in war and culture, you go to the other side, you say, I know you can cause a lot of problems, you know you're beaten, but you could drag this out for a long time and hurt a lot more people. We'll let you get out of this with your life. We'll shut this down, we'll protect you, but you're gonna be locked up on an island. That's how it used to be done. Take the Germans, two years before Germany finally fell, when 5 million Russians marched in, and they had the other allies on their flank.

1:34:52 Two years before that, the German high command was already secretly talking to the Russians and said, all right, if we give up right now, can we just keep Germany? And the Russians behind the scenes are like, yep. And they tried to kill Hitler in Operation Valkyrie and they failed. It wasn't the German high command weren't Nazis. Wasn't the German high command. No, they knew they'd lost. The Russians by then were out producing weapons three to one. They knew the US was getting ready to invade. And so they said, all right, but they'd only get about

1:35:40 Half the German officers be part of it. They wanted a new person to lead Germany. They thought, well, who's as popular as Hitler? Only one person, Rommel, the desert fox. And of course, right after they tried to blow Trump up in the wolf slayer with the explosive, they placed it up against the big table legs. So it was deflected and Hitler was hard to kill. They learned that in World War I, blew him to the wall, but he still got up and went back to work with his arm paralyzed. They then tortured the people they grabbed and they said, yeah, it's a,

1:36:26 Rommel, they went over to Rommel's house, said, get in the car, sign these letters, you endorse Hitler, we're gonna take a ride down the street. And they gave him his cyanide tablets. So yeah, I know this stuff goes on. And if Trump can really get the globals to totally surrender and then not put him in prison for raping kids, as much as I would love to see him hang, I can say yeah, seven of them start in World War III or any release of a bioweapon, ending the planet. Okay, you guys have all your power taken away, but we're not gonna kill you. That's how war works. But we don't know that. And knowing these people, they never quit. And we're not even sure that's the deal Trump made. We know a deal has been made. That's why this 180 happened. So the globalists know most of them that they've lost. They can see long term of the German high command.

1:37:42 that they've lost. So why would the Russians say, yeah, we'll stop here in the east, you kill Hitler, you pull your troops back? They would have followed through on that because they knew how much they were going to lose. They lost millions and millions and millions more than most of them in two years. 67 million Russians, 24 million Germans. They only lost about half of them up to that point. So if the Germans could have killed Hitler, You would have had 10 million plus Germans that wouldn't have died, 15 million Russians that didn't die, but because they couldn't get one guy, 25 million more people had to die. So I understand pragmatism at that level, but we don't know that's the specifics of the deal. We know a deal has been made with MI6, with Mossad, and this joint blackmail. The Five Eyes are all involved in human trafficking, DynCorp, Halliburton, the UN,

1:38:48 All the big, they've all been caught with the flights full of kidnapped women and children going back 30 years. It used to be in the news all the time. Last decade, they've shut it down because they control the corporate press totally. So I'm going to stop wargaming this in a little while. It just is amazing. I'm going to hit Ben Shapiro in a second. But let's go To Jake Tapper having a heyday with this, cuz now the Democrats that are right at the center of this, they get to act all free and good and like Trump's covering up. And now the Democrats have sent subpoenas, and they want only the Epstein files that have Trump's name in it, if that exists. So see how this is the direction this is all going, not good. Go ahead and play the clip.

1:39:34 So what's really going on here? I mean, what's really going on? Well, experts such as our friend Julie Brown from the Miami Herald, who's been covering Epstein for years, say that the notion of Epstein having an easy-to-access client list is likely a red herring. And that's what the Trump administration is relying on, that there likely isn't a list per se. But they are also now relying on the fact that because it's MAGA influencers who often put forward so many falsehoods, legacy news media won't push the point, While there might not be a list, there are certainly files that can be released. There's a trove of information that the Trump administration is right now refusing to share.

1:40:15 Information that could well point to the powerful folks who availed themselves of the sex trafficking victims of Jeffrey Epstein. If you go, for example, to the FBI vault online, you can see that there are 22 files containing thousands of pages. Most of them are heavily redacted. Now sure, of course, redact the names and identifying characteristics of the victims. But why not make the victim and witness testimonies public? As Julie Brown points out, there's still so much we don't know. From the investigations by US attorneys in Miami and in New York, witness interviews in the US Virgin Islands and New Mexico. Brown writes that there's still more evidence that hasn't been published, including, quote, Epstein kept video cameras in most of his residences. And Epstein's autopsy, nor the report of the investigation into his death, has ever been made public. So while there may not be an official client list to be released, as the administration is now saying,

1:41:08 There's a lot of extra information that is not being made public, despite Trump's Justice Department basically now saying case closed. This isn't going to go away. The public, you, you're being played for fools here. So by Trump making this decision, he puts CNN, who lies more than Satan, in a position of truth. Everything Tapper just said is true. Like I've said years ago and months ago on Monday, it's a red herring to say it's a client list. They don't put that on there. Here's the client list of pedophiles. But no, where's all the video? Where's all the hard drives? Where's all that stuff they hauled away on record?

1:41:48 Where is all the reports and the indictment in New York? Like Roger Stone said, Trump needs to say, okay, case closed on the client list. But yeah, we should release this stuff out of the federal court and try to get that done, which the DOJ can do. Stop it. You promised to release the stuff, release it. I'm telling you, it's already a huge scandal. And I'm trying to get Trump to head this off at the pass. And if these intelligence agencies told Trump, well, it's our allies and we'll get all these alliances, this is the right thing to do. I believe the CIA gave Trump advice to do this, in fact, I know they did. And he's trusted them and he's being set up now. Cuz I've studied it, Trump is not involved with raping kids, not as MO. And they would have used it if they had it. But all these other people like Bill Gates who said he was blackmailed by Epstein, more like he was using Epstein to blackmail scientists and others.

1:42:47 They have got a lot to lose and they don't want this coming out. And I don't trust them if they've told Trump they'll stop attacking his agenda. They're like Napoleon, you put them on an island, they still come back a couple times. I don't trust it. I think it's very dangerous, like Tucker Carlson said, playing with fire. With me, just do the right thing, justice be done me the heavens fall. All right, yeah, there's the feds all digging through Epstein's stuff. But oh no, there's nothing there, nobody has anything. Oh, just like when they stole the election, covering up the windows so you can't see what's happening.

1:43:26 Yeah, there's no cover up. Just listen to Ben Shapiro. Alex Jones made it all up. There was never any evidence. There was never any information. Here's Melinda Gates when she was leaving Bill, why she did it. Here it is. It was also widely reported that Bill had a friendship or business or some kind of contact with Jeffrey Epstein and that you were not, that that was very upsetting to you. Did that play a role in the divorce at all in this process? Yeah, as I said, it's not one thing, it was many things. But I did not like that he'd had meetings with Jeffrey Epstein, no. And you made that clear to him? I made that clear to him. I also met Jeffrey Epstein exactly one time. Did you? Yes, because I wanted to see who this man was.

1:44:19 I regretted it from the second I stepped in the door. He was abhorrent, he was evil personified. I had nightmares about it afterwards. So, you know, my heart breaks for these young women because that's how I felt. And here I'm an older woman. My God, I feel terrible for those young women. It's awful. You felt that the moment you walked in? I didn't realize that. He was awful. Yeah. And you shared that with Bill and he still continued to spend time with him? Any of the questions remaining about what Bill's relationship there was, those are for Bill to answer. Okay. But I made it very clear how I felt about him. Bill Gates said he met him once, it was hundreds of times. She went to see what he was doing and the hair on the back of her neck stood up. She's an evil woman, folks. She's a eugenicist, she's a globalist. She's distancing herself. And now Bill Gates and all these guys, Larry Summers, they're all hoping that this just goes away.

1:45:20 Silicon Valley's hoping, the Israelis are hoping, the British royal family's hoping. Because their fingerprints and their DNA literally is all over it. But here's Ben Shapiro saying none of you ever had any evidence. There's no evidence. You heard this memo says there's no evidence. There's just people in prison that worked with him for human trafficking, but that didn't happen either. Nope, your FBI said it, Trump said it. So you're either with Trump and Bongino or you're with that crazy guy who admits he's fake, Alex Jones. When did I say I was fake? Oh, well CNN said in the court filing, didn't say that. But that's what they do. Intelligence agency talking point. Here come the Israelis to the rescue. The bugle, the cavalry, here comes Ben Shapiro.

1:46:15 Here he is. We now have the answers. And the problem is this. People who never hedged their bets, people who never at any point suggested to you that they don't have data to back up the speculation, that the speculation was in and of itself the conclusion that if you speculate without evidence that that amounts to an actual conclusion to an investigation, they're going to be very upset today because it turns out that the DOJ and the FBI have concluded that Epstein didn't have a client list and died by suicide, according to a memo detailing the findings obtained by Axios. Now again, Does this put to bed all inquiries? Of course not. People can continue to speculate as much as they want. And I think there's still open questions here regarding how did Epstein make his money? That's a very serious open question. The speculation for a long time was he made his money from blackmail. But the DOJ and the FBI, again, run by people like Dan Bongino and Cash Patel and Pam Bondi are telling you, they are, I'm not telling you, they're telling you, people who are members of the Trump administration, people you elected and put into these positions to get you the truth on this matter, are telling you,

1:47:13 that he didn't, in fact, he was not murdered. He did not keep a client list and he did not blackmail powerful figures. That is the thing that they are saying, not I, they are saying this. If you're willing to throw that over and claim they're lying, then I'd like to see you present your evidence that they are in fact lying because I know Dan, I don't think that Dan Bagino is lying to me. I know Kash Patel a little bit. I don't think Kash Patel is lying to me. I don't think he's lying to me. Let's stop right there, back up five seconds. What did Patel say on Rogan a few months ago? He goes, listen, Joe, you know me, you can trust me. If there was any evidence of any other victims, we'd tell you. If there was any video, we'd let you know. And Joe's like, well, Bondi says you've got 14 terabytes. Well, let's not talk about that. And you have all these court cases and people convicted in all this. And then his court case, the second one in New York when he died.

1:48:06 As Roger Stone says, release that. No, there's no evidence. Believe these people because they've done a 180 now and he's not an intelligence. So that's what's happening here. And out from under a rock comes Ben Shapiro with others who attack me. That clip's coming up. But that's all over the news. Alex Jones says there's a cover up. And so there must not be one cuz he's Alex Jones.

1:48:47 He's a guy that admitted in court, he's an actor, everything's fake. Really, where's the transcript? Where is it? Oh, his lawyer said, oh, CNN said that. No, they tried to enter in a custody battle, me doing a Joker thing about fluoride in the water. I'm the Joker, I'm putting poison in your water. It's good, kids, drink it and die. Mack's wife wanted to say, look, he's crazy. My lawyer said, that's inadmissible. That's obviously a parody. When Jack Nicholson plays the Joker, he's not really the Joker. By that extension, Jones admits he's a performance artist and everything's fake. And yes, when I was in scanner darkly or waking life that was invited to be in by Rick link letter with Connor Reeves and others. I'm playing a part when I'm up here. I'm showing you the clips. I'm showing you the articles and he says, oh, there's no evidence really gives Lane Maxwell, the federal, the judge in her case run by Comey said.

1:49:40 We're not gonna gratuitously release the names of the people on the client list and suppress Ghislaine Maxwell's client list. Well, let's get that. She's in jail now, she's in prison. Let's release that. But again, Ben Shapiro, there's no evidence that he was an intelligence or anything or he worked for anybody else. No, we just have the US attorney that ran the first case saying he was told go lie on him, he's an intelligence operative. Had a Masada at his house and the Israeli Prime Minister over and over again, but nothing's going on. Nothing's happening.

1:50:15 No, Ben Shapiro said we've never presented any evidence. No, Bongino and Patel haven't put on any evidence. Fox News alert, the Ayatollah's gone into hiding. He's believed to be holed up inside an underground bunker northeast of the Capitol. Iranian proxies, which have been severely degraded, are threatening to commit acts of terror against American troops and American ships in the region. And sources are telling ABC News that President Trump has approved the attack plans for Iran that were presented to him. Based on the fact that there's a substantial chance of negotiations that may or may not take place with Iran in the near future, I will make my decision whether or not to go within the next two weeks." That's a quote directly from the president for all of you today. What's your take on that? Because people say, well, that's just the president. No, that's Trump talking. Now it looks like he's given himself more

1:49:40 We're not gonna gratuitously release the names of the people on the client list and suppress Ghislaine Maxwell's client list. Well, let's get that. She's in jail now, she's in prison. Let's release that. But again, Ben Shapiro, there's no evidence that he was an intelligence or anything or he worked for anybody else. No, we just have the US attorney that ran the first case saying he was told go lie on him, he's an intelligence operative. Had a Masada at his house and the Israeli Prime Minister over and over again, but nothing's going on. Nothing's happening.

1:50:15 No, Ben Shapiro said we've never presented any evidence. No, Bongino and Patel haven't put on any evidence. Fox News alert, the Ayatollah's gone into hiding. He's believed to be holed up inside an underground bunker northeast of the Capitol. Iranian proxies, which have been severely degraded, are threatening to commit acts of terror against American troops and American ships in the region. And sources are telling ABC News that President Trump has approved the attack plans for Iran that were presented to him. Based on the fact that there's a substantial chance of negotiations that may or may not take place with Iran in the near future, I will make my decision whether or not to go within the next two weeks." That's a quote directly from the president for all of you today. What's your take on that? Because people say, well, that's just the president. No, that's Trump talking. Now it looks like he's given himself more

1:51:15 More breathing room, two weeks when we were coming down to the deadline and the last deadline passed obviously and within 24 hours Israel struck. Trump is speaking through her. Right, those are his words. And he's waiting because you put US bombers over there with bunker buster bombs, it embroils America into something that could last a decade. He knows the implications of this and you don't want to overreact. You don't want to actually do something that might not need to be done if you can avoid it. with some kind of negotiations, which Trump is the master negotiator, right? So you've got Iran, you've got Trump, and you've got Netanyahu, right? So two of those are really going at it. What Trump is saying, I believe, in that message is, I don't want to embroil America in a war for the next decade plus. And that's what he's been saying the last 48 hours, or really 24 is. I only want to do this if it doesn't turn into a long war. Now he's learning at will. And so sanity is prevailing.

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1:55:00 That's the tactic. So he's following exact tactics and he notice doesn't say what his sources that my lawyer says I'm fake. They said this thing about Tucker Carlson. He never said that. They go Tucker Carlson admits he's a performance artist in a lawsuit. No, didn't do that. They just have these standard lies and they do it over and over again and it's a script he's following. It's loaded in his computer and then he reads off tactics they use and we know the playbooks. Finish up, go ahead. And he did not blackmail powerful figures. That is the thing that they are saying, not I, they are saying this. If you're willing to throw that over and claim they're lying, then I'd like to see you present your evidence that they are in fact lying. Because I know Dan, I don't think that Dan Bocchino is lying to me. I know Kash Patel a little bit. I don't think Kash Patel is lying to me. I don't think these people are lying to me.

1:55:55 Which means that if somebody else continues to claim that they're lying, they ought to provide their evidence at this point. And now is the point at which the facts on the ground have changed. And so either you ought to shift your opinion based on the facts that have now emerged, or you ought to acknowledge that this was never a fact-based inquiry in the first place. Wow, then maybe Jeffrey Epstein didn't do anything, but maybe Litterer, maybe he threw a bubble gum wrapper on the ground. Yeah, Bill Gates saying he tried to blackmail him. I mean, You have convictions for this stuff of Epstein and his girlfriend, whose dad was the famous Mossad operative that ran human trafficking of children on record. I mean, but he just says there's no facts, the facts have changed. We have a one and a half page memo that totally contradicts everything the Justice Department and Bongino and Patel and Bondi said.

1:56:50 And I have the FBI agents that show me the evidence that yes, they did send out the 14 terabytes in March to the FBI offices around the country. And now we have a total 180 here. And we're told there's no evidence anywhere, it's all closed. Even though we have all these other cases and all these witnesses, and the unclosed case, cuz he died of Epstein, charging him with all this again. Let's go to break and I'll come back and finish this. Some stations don't care this segment where he attacks me. This isn't about defending myself, I got attacked all the time. Again, Alex Jones is a WWE wrestler. Alex Jones is crazy and he has no evidence. When I just showed you the US Attorney that prosecuted Epstein the first time saying I was told he was intelligent, leave him alone, slap on the wrist, which they did. So again, you talk about mega massive spin. And that last thing Shapiro said, play the last 10 seconds again. So from these facts, these new facts, we have to think none of it was true. Okay, great.

1:58:13 None of it was true. Hell, Epstein was a model citizen. Here it is. And now is the point at which the facts on the ground have changed. And so either you ought to shift your opinion based on the facts that have now emerged, or you ought to acknowledge that this was never a fact-based inquiry in the first place. This was never a fact-based inquiry in the first place. And in Ghislaine Maxwell's trial that they limited it to only her, the judge blocked Little Black Book of clients, but there is no Little Black Book. Okay, there are facts Shapiro, we'll be right back. All right, I'm focusing a lot on this Epstein cover up firestorm, and we'll have a bunch of the news here in a moment. Because if you understand this, you understand how these Western intelligence agencies are on record.

1:59:02 Running giant human trafficking child smuggling sex slavery operations And you're seeing it scale up around the world by the EU and NATO and the Biden administration disappearing 350,000 children that they know of to sex traffickers and others and now the Trump admin shutting down the border shutting down the trafficking finding many of the children and But because they're juveniles, those cases are being kept sealed. We need to find a way legally to get that out. I've seen a lot of good movement from the Trump administration on that. That's good as they promised to do. But bigger than just saving the kids and that's obviously paramount is it brings down the whole globalist network. I mean, you have the UN caught running huge child kidnapping rings. It's been all over the news for decades. You've got AP doing huge investigation reports on it in Haiti. You got the Clinton's foundation head caught smuggling kids out.

1:59:56 You've got all the human trafficking and organ smuggling and harvesting in Ukraine confirmed. The members of parliament of the UK exposing it. You have the CIA with the West German government from the 60s to the 90s placing over 30,000 children with convicted pedophiles in a psychological test. Taking them from Christian families. I mean this is how this beast operates. This is its cult. This is its religion. And so if we've got a chance to go into one of its main tentacles and follow that tentacle back to the whole thing and bring it down, it needs to be done. But instead if Trump just makes deals with these foreign governments in the UK, because the royal family is heavily involved on record, and gets a bunch of political power out of it, maybe some of it's for our good agenda, isn't it poisoned though at its heart? And that's the good scenario out of the bad scenarios. That's the least bad scenario.

2:00:56 So you've got to discuss why there's a 180 and now this gaslighting spin for people like Ben Shapiro and all the others about he acted alone. There was no human trafficking. None of the facts ever were real. He didn't do anything wrong. People saying he did it just made it up with no evidence because of a page and a half memo the Justice Department put out that totally contradicts all the real evidence and the trials and the convictions for human smuggling, trafficking, and the witnesses and all the Mossad chiefs and Israeli prime ministers covering their faces, sneaking into Epstein's compound in New York. And Trump kicking him out of Mar-a-Lago 15, 16 years ago for trying to pick up 14 year olds. And Comey's daughter running the cover-ups of all these big cases including P. Diddy. And then all they can do is try to change the subject. They do this all over the news, not just Shapiro, he's just one example I'm giving. And they're, well, you know, you can just trust Trump and Bongino or you can trust Alex Jones.

2:02:07 The guy who admits he's fake, the guy that's crazy, he doesn't give you any evidence. We do. Really, evidence? You've given no evidence of what you're saying is true. Just like the camera around the corner from the jail block or whatever. Oh look, here's a shot into the jail, though you can't even see the entrance to his jail cell. Look, oh a minute's missing. Don't worry, we've shown you the proof. And then the coroner says he has his neck broken in three spots. His brother said he said he was gonna be getting out soon. He hired a new defense lawyer a week before. He's very optimistic. Hell, we were lied to so much, maybe he's in a witness protection program and he's still alive. I don't even know. I just know we're being lied to. I know when a reporter raises that, Trump snaps at him and says, you shouldn't be asking questions about that. It's a problem. And well, here's Ben Shapiro attacking me with a script.

2:03:12 Reading a CNN fake article from 12 years ago, it's self-fake, it's self-a-lie, but he wouldn't even tell you the source because he knows you wouldn't believe CNN. He's the same guy that says take the COVID shots, enjoy the lockdowns, never Trump her. But now he and Mark Levin and the Israeli operatives, they're the real MAGA, and any of us that actually got Trump elected or were there at the start, we're the people you can't trust. Here he is. He has integrity. In fact, he's been called by some a prophet. Tucker Carlson literally called him a prophet on his program. So actually this is a person whose own lawyer made the case in a custody hearing with his ex-wife that he was a performance artist. This wasn't even the Sandy Hook trial where he tried to make the same case. His lawyers claim that this man of integrity is in fact a performance artist.

2:04:03 Quote, he's playing a character and is nothing like his online persona. Attorney Randall Wilhite reportedly insisted in a Texas courtroom at a pretrial hearing ahead of the right wing radio jocks custody battle with ex-wife Kelly Jones. Judging Jones by his Infowars performances would be like judging Jack Nicholson by his depiction of the Joker on Batman. That's his own lawyer saying that. His own lawyer is saying that he was a performance artist. Hey, that's his wife was making the case that actually he's just unstable. Quote, he's not a stable person. He says he wants to break Alec Baldwin's neck. He wants JLo to get raped. His lawyer was like, no, no, he doesn't mean any of that. He's a performance artist. Okay, so those are your choices. So I just like to point out once again, at this point, you can watch whatever you want. It is a free country. You can watch Alex Jones. You can believe Alex Jones. You can think Alex Jones, you're entitled to any of those beliefs. That's fine. It's a free country.

2:04:52 on a moral and intellectual level, it is not so fine. Because it turns out that people who consistently traffic in conspiracy, it turns out that people who consistently traffic in trash, people who spend your time, your few brief breaths on this planet, filling your mind with stupidity, playing a WWE character. Listen, if you wanna watch Alex Jones in the same way that you watch WWE, because you know that the WWE is people who are fake jumping on each other and you find it dramatic and interesting, more power to you. But if you're watching WWE and you think it's real, that makes you the stupid person. Don't do it. Don't do it. Seriously, it makes you dumber. It just makes you, in the end, you're responsible for the information that enters your brain and your independent judgment of that information. But if people are consistently being inauthentic, if people openly acknowledge that what they're saying to you publicly and what they say privately are two different things,

2:05:48 on the same matters, well then maybe you ought to take what they say with a grain of salt rather than suggesting that, for example, Donald Trump is lying to you about Jeffrey Epstein, or Dan Bongino, with whom I am friends, is lying to you about Jeffrey Epstein, or Kash Patel, the head of the FBI, is lying to you about Jeffrey Epstein. Because those are your only two choices here. Either Alex Jones, as is usual, blew a conspiracy theory out of proportion, and so did the rest of the internet, or Dan Bongino and Kash Patel and Donald Trump are all lying to you. Those are your choices. There is no third choice. There's a lot of other choices. You're lying. You just spewed a bunch of lies as if they were facts. You didn't actually go to the court record. You took a CNN thing where my lawyer went, this is inadmissible, this clip of Jones playing the Joker. And when he does that, he's doing a parody, just like when I was a gay frog, which is less than 1% of what I do. And actually, listeners love it. I love to have some fun, but I basically stopped doing it because then the media always takes it

2:06:46 and says that's really who I am. It's crazy. The last parody I did was like two, three months ago before the Elon Trump split happened. I saw they were putting pressure trying to drive him out of the administration internally and the left was attacking him, Soros was. So one morning we're sitting around joking around and we had some old props and stuff here. And I said, well, let's just do a quick video where I describe how they take out Trump's top supporters. They can take out his next top supporters like dominoes, we all fall. Now, I mean, I guess my kids are grown up so she can't do a custody battle. But I guess hypothetically, my ex-wife again could do if I had a kid that wasn't adult now, she could go and file an emergency court hearing and say my ex-husband is insane. He believes he is the cookie monster and he's attacking people in the streets and he's insane. And then my lawyer would do a little filing and say, your honor, here's the video. Please don't show it to the jury. This is Jones making a joke. It's very clear. This is not his serious part of his program.

2:07:51 But here we are 15 years or whatever it is later, I got to do the Joker thing back under Obama 15 years ago, but the custody battle was like 12. And here they are with a 12 year old CNN article not saying where it's from, so you can go look it up, saying Jones said he's fake. And again, think of the level of lying there. You can watch my show hour after hour, guest on, facts, clips, everything. Notice corporate media rarely shows you what they say somebody did like Trump you heard him He says he hates all Mexicans are all criminals never said it Trump said the KKK are great people He said there were good people from both sides that came to just see the event There were bad antifa on one side and terrible KKK on the other and I think KKK is not our terrible people They didn't show that part. That's what Ben Shapiro just did

2:08:33 So, I have an eight year old with my second wife, should the CPS come file and try to take her? Because look, your honor, he thinks he's the cookie monster. He's insane. The judge is like, no, that's a joke. But you could misrepresent it, you see, because my lawyer will have to file and say, your honor, this is not admissible, this is a joke. And then the judge goes, yes, it's not admissible like Judge Narano did in my custody battle. Yeah, we won that motion. They tried to have a motion saying I'm a drug addict because they showed me smoking pot with Joe Rogan. That's just a ritual you do. I'm not a big pot smoker, I smoke like once a year. And the judge said no, him smoking pot in California, it's legal, is not admissible. There was a whole list of stuff that's not admissible. And on each part, my lawyer said, your honor, it's legal in California, it's part of the show. You have a drink, smoke a cigar, smoke some pot. The judge went, I understand that, makes sense. Dozens of things, the judge said no, no, no, no. We sit there for hours, show the clip. The judge goes, really?

2:09:48 That's a parody, that's a joke. They played a gay frog clip. Look, he's crazy. She goes, that's a joke. Started laughing at me. She was a good judge. But the dozens of clips of me doing silly stuff, saying, look, he's a bad parent. Look, he's fooling you. He's fooling you. He really thinks you think he's the joker. He really thinks you think he's Cookie Monster. But Shapiro didn't show you that. He just said, this guy admits he's a fraud. No, you're a fraud, buddy. Just like Rachel Maddow, I bet you took money like she did from Big Pharma to push the shots. I bet you did, I don't know it. You're the fraud, bud. You're an anti-American. Now, here's my latest parody from months and months ago, right before Elon Musk got cut off from Trump, which has hurt Trump in America. I predicted it in a parody, here it is. And now for something completely different.

2:11:01 Doofenshmirtz Ensemble Incorporated! This mission is critical to bringing down America and the West. We had almost destroyed their donkey-bag, but your party is too weak. Let's not carry out your attacks on their children stronger. So we must undermine the main support systems of Trump. Now I will show you how it's done through our NGO networks. We will target Musk and Tesla to get to Trump.

2:11:40 And then we can take down Musk and make him stop supporting Trump. We'll target the next big supporter in line and like dominoes they will fall. And then finally we will destroy the WAC and bring in our satanic cataclysmic empire. Is that clear, Slade? Yes, President. Sir, sir. of the Americans and keep them in the big black dome. Soon, the West will fall forever. Ha ha ha. Pop up idiotically. Oh, cookie, cookie. Cookie, ah, cookie. Ah, ah, ah.

2:12:47 Rookie doodle! Rookie fool! No Tesla's were hurt in the filming of this. Do not feel at this terrorist. Do not search photos. There's no need to fear. Mighty Mouse is here. Ah, gotta scratch my face, man.

2:13:28 Ladies and gentlemen, there are a lot of items. So you just saw an incredible attempt at deception. You just saw me try to convince you I was something I wasn't. You want to see the famous joker thing? And I know most of you understand that, but this is the level of deception we deal with. No, no one's buying this cover up. And I'll talk to Kyle Serafin a little bit about this. And then I'm going to table it for now because I got a lot of other big fish to fry.

2:14:04 But Tucker warns Epstein case can spark revolution. Yeah, it's really dangerous. It's really bad. It's out of control. We got some other big announcements Trump made at another press conference. He just said, do you want to see coming and Brandon behind bars? Trump? I think they're very dishonest people that they're crooked as hell and maybe they have to pay a price for that. Well, yeah, they do. They tried to overturn elections, try to impeach a president targeted his constituents. an illegal intelligence operation run by Obama. So of course they need to. And so yeah, the timing yesterday with the firestorm over the Epstein whitewash gaslight fiasco, suddenly Fox News, oh, we're doing a criminal investigation of Brennan, Comey and Clapper. Well, I told you, you can pull it up, four months ago I was told by the Justice Department

2:15:01 I didn't hold pieces on it. They are in a criminal investigation. So the story is not a fraud because it's already a criminal investigation. And Comey, Brennan and Clapper know that. But they did release that it's official going on to change the subject, which I understand. But you gotta have the deep knowledge, you gotta have the sources, you have to understand that. Now it remains to be seen if they'll finally indict their asses. It's open and shut, but it needs to happen yesterday. Let's go to a clip of Trump an hour or so ago in the White House, what he had to say. Be saying that if they didn't hate our country, and they obviously do. I'm surprised that they would do it. Knowing a little bit about them, I don't know them well. But these officers are doing a tremendous job. They're great patriots. If you expose them because of statements like have been made by Democrats and others on the left, usually, mostly, I think probably exclusively. You put them in great danger, tremendous danger.

2:16:21 And it's sort of funny when people picket in front of Columbia, in front of Harvard, and they have masks on, more than masks, I mean you can't see anything. Nobody complains about that. But when a... James Comey and John Brennan now under criminal investigation related to the Trump-Russia probe. Do you want to see these two guys? behind bars. bad people and dishonest people. So whatever happens, happens. And now- Now I'm gonna be getting to this question Trump got when Matt Bracken joins us here in about 36 minutes from now, counterterrorism expert. Because again, we've seen exponential increase in violence against law enforcement, federal law enforcement, ICE facilities, ICE agents, since the No King's kickoff on June 14th.

2:17:29 And you've seen the Democrat operative trying to go kill Democrats, so he can be blamed on Republicans, according to him, for Tim Walz. And I'd say maybe he's just crazy. And then you've got the wife running around a bunch of people with guns and passports. And you've got the roommate, the day it happened, saying, he loves Trump and Alice Jones. But The point is, is that this is escalating and you got Podesta's plan to trigger a civil war in this country. They're trying to do it. Will they be able to? Doocy says to Trump, do you think there's a national threat of left wing militia that is targeting ICPB? Well, I mean, they just shot up and attacked two ICE facilities and shot one cop in the last five days. I mean, most people don't even know about that because it's Antifa doing it. Can you imagine?

2:18:32 If a Trump supporter went and shot up an ice facility or a synagogue or whatever, or a black church, can you imagine if two of them happened? And mobs of people just descending on ice around the country and attacking them and driving them out of towns. And people on TV going next time we're gonna get them, we're gonna. And The View, we need to be able to fight and die. I mean, they want violence. I showed the Democrat headlines yesterday where we want blood. We demand blood. So that's coming up in the fourth hour, but here's a little prelude to it. Here it is Alvarado, Texas a few days ago ten people wearing all black Allegedly set off fireworks outside an ice office to lure the officers out so they could ambush them shoot at them They had guns and vests and two-way radios

2:19:27 Do you think that this was an isolated incident or do you think there's a national threat of a left wing militia that is targeting- By the way boss, they had another anti-Mustalga guy shoot up the ice facility in McAllen days before and shot a cop, critical condition. I mean, even the reporters, because it's not even in the news barely, don't even know this. I'm not mad at Ducey, but I'm just like, Go back to it. Do you think that this was an isolated incident or do you think there's a national threat of a left-wing militia that is targeting ICE and CBP? Well, I think you have some very stupid people in the left who have some money that are making it available to these people because you look at the guns they had, they were brand new. You look at even the clothing they were wearing, it looked like it just came out of some military shop.

2:20:21 So you have some very stupid people that if anything ever happened, they'd be the first to go. They don't understand that. They'd be the first to go. They'd be the first ones hit. But they are, there is money being put behind people when you look at the weapons they have, the newness of the weapons, rifles that just came out and they have the latest model. So there's something going on and we'll get to the bottom of it. And what do you think the penalty should be for these people who are if they are found guilty for very stiff shoot at ICE officers? Very very stiff very stiff a Long time in jail a long time and one got hit yesterday in the neck and he fortunately It's gonna be okay, but he got hit yesterday in the neck. No good. And what would you think?

2:23:10 All right, I'm gonna get into this more next hour as I decipher it, but this is part of the course. It has been known since it began and whistleblowers inside Chapel Hill, North Carolina, the University of Texas, Galveston, and other universities went public in 2014 and 15 that gain-of-function level four bioweapon research was being conducted in even level two facilities illegally under federal funding by Barack Obama, including the development of the SARS COVID-19. And Google and Apple were all funding it as well. And when it came out, they were doing that, there was a big scandal, it was in the news. They then moved it in 2015, yeah, there's one of the articles.

2:24:13 I covered at the time to Wuhan in a joint operation with the Communist Chinese so that when Bill Gates and Peter Daszak released it and had the vaccine on the shelf, which we now know they did, which we said back at the time, we now know five years ago. We first broke it, now all confirmed. They'd have plausible deniability. Well, now this report, USAID quietly sent thousands of viruses to the infamous Wuhan lab. Yeah, we're all taught USAID feeds starving people. That's less than 1% of what they do. It doesn't even stand for aid. The US Agency for International Development reportedly shipped thousands of viruses to a Chinese military-linked bio lab in Wuhan. USAID sent 11,000 viral samples to the Wuhan Institute of Virology over the course of a 10-year program under Obama.

2:25:18 despite not having any formal agreement with the laboratory, according to documents obtained by the Daily Caller. The viruses were reportedly sent from China's Yunnan province to Wuhan, the infamous epicenter of the Chinese coronavirus pandemic, with the exporting being funded by USAID, means the CIA, which seemingly failed to devise a strategy that would prevent the samples from becoming bioweapons and staying accessible to US government. They want that for plausible deniability. So think about that. And again, I already knew the story before I read it. They're like, hey, did you hear about this? Oh, USAID, CIA, of course. We already know what they were doing. And they proliferate just like Obama in his second year in office, billions in Ukraine

2:26:23 to take over the Russian labs and expand them and that way when this stuff gets released, the globals want to release it for control. They go, oh, it came out of Ukraine or came out of Russia, came out of China. Notably, the Wuhan Institute of Virology lacks adequate biosafety. The article's about that. Why'd they send them somewhere not safe? They sent them there so that the signature of the weapon can be blamed on somebody else. Good God, people. Exclusive, USAID quietly sent thousands of viruses to Chinese military-linked bio lab. And here's the documents. You know, what would happen to you if you did that? They've caught, you know, Chinese, definitely Chinese intelligence has been getting arrested, three of them last month, trying to sneak in weaponized mold. So this is what they're doing. It's all part of their larger plan. USAID quietly sent thousands of viruses to Chinese military-linked bio lab.

2:27:34 But it's still like, oh, now we're just admitting it was man-made. Now we're just admitting it came out of a lab. We knew that in February of 2020 with the great Francis Boyle and others. Now for the balance of the time we have left, and Matt Brackett's coming on with the leftists gearing up their domestic terror networks, attacking ICE facilities, you name it. It's Kyle Serafin, former paramedic, Air Force,

2:28:10 Individual FBI counterterrorism, the Kyle Serafin show.com.com Kyle Serafin on X. KyleSerafinShow.com on rumble of Kyle Serafin. I wanted to get him on and I was already getting these calls last night this morning, but he sent me some of the stuff on X. And I talked to people that it's happened to separately who are last night getting calls yesterday, getting calls from the FBI that give them information, but also, oh, you're at the White House. You're you're you got press credentials. You're going to be cut off If you don't stop talking about the Epstein gaslighting Bizarro event happening. So Kyle, I appreciate you got five minutes to the next hour. I'm glad you're able to connect with us. Again, we're hoping Trump's successful. We're not here rooting against him. We're pointing out this PR disaster. Yeah, Ben Shapiro and their usual suspects.

2:29:05 running around saying it's case closed, a page and a half memo, there is no Epstein evidence of any type. Shapiro said there's no evidence Epstein never did anything wrong. Now his girlfriend got convicted of human trafficking, but we heard from the FBI, didn't commit suicide, no human trafficking, no blackmail, no other people. I mean, and Trump snapped at the press conference yesterday. We saw that bizarre spin by Bondi, which was amazing. You talk about Streisand effect, her curls and said this is the danger of triggering a real revolution. Patrick Ben David's flipped anybody with a brain. I hate seeing this self-harming by the Trump administration, but since we talked on Monday,

2:29:44 The consensus has formed that this is some type of backroom deal with the facade, MI6, the US, and it is too damaging to come out. And so now we're supposed to just stop talking about it. Well, then they should have just stopped talking about it instead of making it a thousand times worse. This is turning into the mother of all Streisand effects. You sent me some videos to go to as well. We also have reportedly a criminal investigation now launched into Comey, Brennan, and Clapper During the firestorm, I was told four months ago and reported that there was criminal investigations going on by someone in the Justice Department. And so I don't think it's a total lie that they just did it to cover up the last story, but I think they reported it to change the subject. What do you know? You got the floor, Kyle Serafin.

2:30:29 Yeah, well, first of all, it looks like a complete cover up with the announcement of investigations. The fact that Fox News is gonna go out there and push their piece and you're hearing them say that they're gonna investigate Comey and they're gonna go after Brennan and all this kind of nonsense. Unless they have a capital offense, which is basically not a realistic possibility, These are not prosecutable investigations. Alex, you know this too. When they want to go out there and do an investigation, they investigate you, period. They don't tell you, they don't warn you, there's no press release. There's no like leak it to Fox News Digital so that they can go out and have a favorable headline when you're having a bad PR day. No, you learn two years later because Google gives you a notice that you've been under investigation or you have to respond to a grand jury.

2:31:16 That's right, this is exactly correct. There's an indictment, you get subpoenaed and you're made aware of it. or you're arrested, that's how you find out that there was an investigation. This sort of messaging saying we're going to be doing, and I love it when they always use the word probe for some reason, probe seems to be like a Fox News word. But when you want to go out and announce that you're going to investigate, that is 100% deflection, trying to get attention on something else. Please follow the shiny object, follow the squirrel, follow the laser pointer, take your pick. It's not real. You don't do investigations like that. And by the way, the Fox News piece says that it's gonna be over perjury. Statute of limitations is five years. The criminal code that defines this as 18 USC 3282 non-capital offenses. The statute of limitations on these guys is over. They got out of office in 2017. So what are you investigating them for other than please, please, please don't pay attention to our big screw up here. And like you said,

2:32:11 They, it looked like they were trying to release this thing in a quiet way. There was initially sort of that movement to Axios. There was this sort of, can we put it to a left-leaning source so that all the MAGA influencers will push against it and soften the blow of this thing? And then Donald Trump went out and said what looked like the quiet part out loud to me. He said, we got a big thing in Texas. We've got We've got this tragedy, it's right down the street from us, so we know about it. How dare you pay attention to the fact that we're gonna shut down a campaign promise and something that was the subject of an executive order. Trump actually said that this stuff was supposed to come out in executive order, and then you got the most incompetent response by Pam Bondi. The one thing I do see, and I don't know if you've talked about this, but I'll just say it because it's unpleasant for people to hear it.

2:32:55 There is a concerted effort in traditional media and also in sort of the con ink, whether it be a Ben Shapiro like the clip you just played, whether it be Megyn Kelly or anyone else that's associated. They are desperately trying to not smear Dan Bongino with this like It's going to get everybody sloppy and stinky. The question is, can they save Dan? Because in theory, he could go back to a media career. But his hand is part of this. He's the deputy director of the FBI. He's running the show there. And he talked endlessly about Epstein and all the things that needed to be done. There are entire podcasts that he did that were dedicated to this. So you keep seeing people say, I trust him and he's a great guy and he'd never do anything wrong. But maybe Bondi is crap or maybe Patel is garbage. You don't get to just think about it.

2:33:41 pick and choose who gets to have the crap fall on them. But you are seeing this concerted effort to try to protect it. I'm also seeing another thing which you may not be aware of, but there are folks in Washington DC who are in the press, as you said, they're getting calls from the FBI saying lay off. The other thing that's happening is there's a concerted smear job going on against guys like me and guys like Garrett O'Boyle, who you've referenced many times, my friend Steve Friend, Marcus Allen, and all the guys that came forward that are not public, that are in the whistleblower space. that for years were the heroes telling people the truth about it. We're not partisan in per se, like I don't, I don't, if Trump is wrong, Trump is wrong. If the GOP is wrong, then they're wrong. It doesn't matter to me. I'm not on a team and I'm not registered for any of this stuff. But what I do know is if you go out there and make up lies about me, then that must be pretty damaging the things that I'm saying. And they are currently saying that I got word from someone who's a pretty, pretty well connected guy in the political sphere. He said, I heard a story that you shot someone.

2:34:37 I'd be in handcuffs. That's not a real thing if you're a federal agent or after that time. And so this is all nonsense. So we're dealing with smears on people that tell the truth. You're getting this redirection attempt. And you said it to me this morning, I told my wife because it was too funny. They tried to release this thing like a fart in church. And they didn't get away with it because it squeaked really, really loudly. And so the Streisand effect you're pointing out is obviously the case. It's a real thing. And so we're dealing with smears on people that tell the truth. It's totally damaging. As Tucker said, it might be one of the worst rollouts of anything. I think we've got a clip of Mike Howell talking about this is a class on how to not do it. Now let's go to that clip of this is a class on how to not do it. Here is the Mike Howell clip. You guys gave me that clip. You had it, came in and gave it to me. Well, maybe we don't have it then, so.

2:35:30 Yeah, well worst case scenario, I can tell you. So Mike Howell is, he represents the Oversight Project, so they're affiliated, at least they used to be. They're a spin-off from the Heritage Project. He's a legitimate conservative. He calls out, quote unquote, our team when need be. And he said if you were going to basically teach a class on how not to do it, you would do it with this. He points out a couple of really important things. Number one, this was a joint memo, which is not very common in the DC area. And if you have two agencies that are jumping on board and throwing their logo at the top of the memo, one of two things is happening. Either it's a really good piece of news, and my agency and your agency both wanna take credit, so we put our names at the top, we both have it. In this case, it's DOJ and FBI, joint memo.

2:36:10 The other possibility is that nobody wants to take credit. So I'm not going to eat this sandwich by myself. That means your name's going on there too. So you get two people. So everybody gets a little bit of the smear. And then what you don't normally see from these things is an unsigned memo releasing a finding. This should have either a deputy attorney general signed off on it. It should have an assistant attorney general who's in charge of the criminal division. Whatever it may be, there should have been a name or a department associated with it. When they leave them unsigned, it shows you a huge degree of cowardice. And we got a lot of that stuff during COVID. So a lot of this stuff keeps you

2:37:07 So these are the things you sent us. It's all very interesting. What's important is the source and the actual writer. So if you'll notice the byline there, it's Carrie Pickett. Carrie Pickett, I'll call her an acquaintance of mine. And she's the person that introduced me to Dan Bongino. So I know she knows Dan well enough because they used to talk in the background and they connected the two of us together in the first place. So Carrie Pickett is a soft and friendly

2:37:43 the FBI to leak this information. And again, I just told you that information is obviously bogus because you can't go after Comey for anything that's not capital and there's no indication there's a capital crime there. So just that's the reason why that story is relevant. The headline is almost all of it and the byline is actually as important as anything else. But the Mike Howell in his own words, he's an attorney, he's been around DC for a long time. He's worked in and out of government and in oversight now. It's a useful clip if you guys want to hear people in his own words. Well, we do have the Mike Howell clip from the oversight project. Again, tell us who this guy is. Who Mike is? Yeah, sure.

2:38:20 Yeah, yeah, no, he's an attorney. He used to work inside the federal government. He worked for one of the agencies and I can't remember what it is. And again, now he's associated with the Heritage Project and what they call the Oversight Project, which is a subset of Heritage Foundation that does specifically- Got it, I know who that is. So here's his response to this. Here it is. I think you could teach a class on the worst rollout attempt to end a controversy in the history of the United States. You have on Sunday, out of nowhere, holiday weekend, A two page memo just shows up in Axios in the evening, FBI and DOJ said nothing to see here. We've all seen the memo by this point. That begs instantly way more questions than it ever even purports to answer. And there's a couple massive red flags with that memo. First is joint memo, okay? You guys have been in DC. There's only two reasons why you ever have a joint memo between agencies or anybody else, two reasons.

2:39:15 They wanna share credit, everyone's like get me on that, I wanna share credit. Or it's like I'm not signing that alone, let's share the blame. So you can take your guesses as this one is. Speaking of signing, no one signed it. For something of this magnitude, something that all of the principles of the relevant agencies have spoken about at length. We as the American people deserved an explanation from them directly, not an unsigned one and a half page memo. Now a couple more things that really grinded my gears. The memo gratuitously and without reason forecloses the opportunity for more government investigation into this. There is a line in there that couldn't have been written by Bill Gates' lawyers any better. That's how I read that, I said no. Why would the government ever put that in? It looks like it comes from the lawyers of the people could be implicated. And here's what it basically says, you can look for yourself, it's about halfway through the first page. It says, we could not find any evidence that could predicate any government investigations of third parties.

2:40:13 So, if later on you wanted to go and say, hey Bill, what were you doing at Epstein's Island all the time? His lawyer says, actually your own government said you don't have the legal authority to do that. Why include that? They're trying to close the book. And then lastly, the biggest thing, the whole point of why people were upset about the government's lack of activity as it relates to Epstein was the lack of activity. And so what this memo says is, hey, we looked at the existing files in our control. We did a survey, we went and just looked at the files that we already had. Of course there's nothing in there.

2:40:53 Of course, the whole thing is the government, the FBI, DOJ, whoever didn't actually investigate this with any vigor. Let alone if they did, are we to believe that somebody wrote down the worst possible things and just saved them in the FBI's system? Come on, no one in this country is that stupid. And so people are offended, that is just an insult to their intelligence. And also one of the big reasons why they supported this government to take over from the Bidens. And that is a promise of transparency and actual accountability. And look, I'm not here to say I have all the answers to the Epstein files. No one around here does. But I do know those things I just said are absolutely wrong. They should not have been done. And I think

2:41:37 if that's evident by the fact that no one would put their name to it. And that everyone's just trying to sweep this under the rug and it's turned into a huge conflagration. And it got way worse. Class one would have been on the memo. Class two of our symposium on the worst comms rollout ever is today in the cabinet meeting. You have Attorney General Pam Bondi, now I'm trying to pick on her. But she said, I don't even know If he was owned by intelligence or if there's any intelligence community activity here. I forget the exact phrasing, but she says she doesn't know and she'll get back to us. How can you expect the American people who want to answer from their government as to what was going on with FC Nile and all these rich people that were flying down to a place, the huge sex trafficker, pretty obvious red flag there. The biggest question and assumption people have is, okay, this guy probably had an intelligence community connection if he didn't get prosecuted. And for the AG to say we looked into everything on Sunday and there's nothing there. And then to go in front of the entire country today and be like, well, I frankly don't even know if he was an intelligence asset.

2:42:37 just doesn't close the book, it reopens the book. How can the Attorney General not know that? And so it's a shame, it's a shame and I hope it doesn't become more of a pattern. Well, Mike Howell from the Heritage Foundation is very impressive. I want to get him on the show. I'm glad Kyle Serafin sent that clip to us. That is really illustrative of how everybody sees it, how we know it intellectually and feel it and spiritually feel it. And just watching the greatest fiasco so far, I mean, this is the biggest black eye of really Trump's first term and then even now. And Tucker has said that, Peter, but David has said that, you've said that, I've said that. I mean, this is a big deal, folks. This is the Trump admin

2:43:21 in the worst maneuver ever, the way they do it, trying to get us and all of us in bed with Ben Shapiro who said basically Epstein did nothing, that's what this proves, off of some flimsy memo that basically gives a limited investigative pardon to everybody implicated with Epstein. Can you put a finer point to what he was talking about there? Yeah, I mean, you like that? I mean, the fact is, he's saying it looks like it was crafted by someone like Bill Gates's lawyer. Someone that's looking to be able to say, hey, this is exculpatory for us that they did an exhaustive search. And then he goes into the bigger piece, which I think is exactly what you and I have actually talked about previously, Alex, which is that

2:44:03 It only matters that you looked in the file if the file was actually rigorously and aggressively pursued in an investigative way. And if it wasn't, if you have nothing in the file, who cares? I can hand you an empty file right now and say, look, this is everything I have on you, Alex. You look and you go, well, there's nothing there. I guess I'm good. That's not real investigation. And so if they didn't actually document it-. But we also have Trump in the press conference saying, as I said Monday, he's behind it. I want this shut down. Stop talking about it. It's over, which is what the legal memo says. I mean, that's what this is. So why do they want it closed? I think that there's also a secondary piece of it. I think they want to close because they don't want to mess with it. And I think it's ugly. There's a decent chance that Trump, you and I may differ in opinion on this one. You think that he's using the tool, if that's the case, that's the worst capability ever. Dancing with the devil, literally using the devil's tools to control evil people is a

2:44:56 You don't bet on the good guys winning on that. So I'm kind of hopeful that that's not the case and I don't really deal in hope. What I do think is that these people were advised by the worst possible actors inside DOJ and also the same thing in the FBI. Most of the middle management there are looking for a Dan Bongino to fail, looking for a Cash Patel to fail. And so they're out there- You said that the plumbers really set up Nixon. I think you might be right. I'm 50 50. I think these people are setting them up to fail. They said this is not as big a deal as you think, like all we got to do is talk about it. You could see this being down briefed Alex. If you came in and I showed it this morning, Hey, uh, president Trump, by the way, we shut down the FC investigation. There was nothing there. And he's out there looking at world war three in Russia and Ukraine. And he's looking at a peace deal that happens in Iran and Israel. And he's got a million things. He's trying to figure out whether or not he's going to have the same federal reserve chairman and so on.

2:45:41 He's got 20 things up there that are all high level importance. Someone tells him we shut down the FD thing, we didn't find anything there. He goes, great, no big deal. They didn't go, hey sir, by the way, the people who voted for you that really wanted that executive order are gonna lose their ever loving minds if you say that an elite pedophile that there is a second system of justice in America, that the rich and the elite and the powerful and the corrupt can get away with hurting babies and nobody cares. If you told him that, he might be like, holy crap, you better take another look at this before I go talk about it. And I don't think that's what they did. I think they slow played it, they under briefed it, and then he goes out there and he actually probably was surprised that people were asking about it because he's not on social media the way that guys like you and I are, he's just not. Yeah, very well said. Well, I think that's a good point.

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2:51:16 Kyle doesn't want his job back, but Boyle does. Highly decorated veteran, you name it. They called him a hero, but now not the time of day. Just another bad sign and I'm just here telling like it is, but I want to be very clear. I agree because I've studied how things work. You were inside of it, that it's the briefers and how they manipulate the CIA, the FBI, all of it. That's a whole science of the deep state. When I say Trump's going to use a blackmail file And then you're like, well, it's just so horrible. It's so out of control. They don't know how to deal with it. They got so much going on. The agencies don't want to go up against themselves, so they won't enforce it. That's true. I'm not saying Trump himself is going to be over the blackmail file. They tell Trump we're just closing it and it won't be Bongino or Patel that are running it. But those permanent deep staters, those permanent bureaucrats, they

2:52:02 They will continue on with the file now that they got and grabbed from the Democrats in New York that they've now got and the other goodies. I mean, I think that's a no brainer. This information will still be floating around for some time. So I'm saying it's a mix of what we're both saying. Yeah, and I honestly, I mean, if we're being totally clear about things, this tactic is effective. That's why people have used it. They've used it for all of history because people, you know, shame still does hold some power, at least for now. And so if you have the ability to use a tactic, it doesn't go away because the person who was using it. The one thing that I heard my wife say this morning and it made me start thinking again, it's like who was running Jeffrey Epstein and you think there's not another one of those guys out there? And why is nobody clamoring for the people that were running it? We hear about the client list and the people that he was servicing, but we don't hear anything about

2:52:46 The folks that were above him, which is of course, if there was an intelligence collection, we already know in 2008 that the FBI made positive contact with him and helped him get a light sentence on his sex offender charge down in Florida. So these are non-negotiable, they happened. Saying whether he was a government agent or not, there's always a word game that gets played in there and I saw that happen with Pam Bondi and I saw Mike Powell reference it too. You got agents and assets and sometimes the boss is an asset because they're on the books over the so-called agents. That's why you're never gonna get a perjury conviction on a Jim Comey. You're not gonna get Brennan on any of this stuff. And again, the statute of limitation has expired on this. I did want to kind of we brought a clip in from Fox News when they were breaking their version of the story. And the Fox News little clip shows you that they're excited and look and then you just look at the experts they brought on. They brought on a columnist from the Wall Street Journal and they brought on a couple people that run a podcast that didn't have anything to do with any of this. It's just, it's just a lot of people. It's just a lot of people. It's just a lot of people.

2:53:43 It's, it's so simple. We can, we can look at the way to this. Let's do this because Bracken's cool that he can come on about 10 minutes. I want to hear from him, but let's go out to break with Bongino. Suddenly all of this is forgotten. I want to come back, play the Fox news club and finish up. Look how happy Bongino is by the way in that clip, look how happy he is compared to what his current job is. He looks like he's dying now. And then the bigger final question about all of this. Well, we'll get to that in a moment, but here's Bongino. A year and a half after that, I'm in a green room at Fox, and I'm not going to say who because they didn't give me permission to share it, but to show a story, but not who they are, says, you know Epstein's an intelligence asset for people in the Middle East, right? I'm like, no, I didn't know that. I'm like, you sure that's the person, let's say, is like, I'm absolutely sure of that, that he's either a winning or unwitting asset, intelligence asset, meaning

2:54:40 His plane and that island, the cameras, there's a big assumption out there that these videotapes were exclusively in the custody of Epstein. That's a huge mistake. The reason they wanted this story to go away is because there's an assumption like, oh yeah, Epstein had him. No, he wasn't the only one who had him according to this source. These assets, that's why this blackmail story makes so much sense. Which Middle Eastern countries they are, I don't know. But this person who's a very, very good reporter, I mean, aces, right? swore Epstein was either a winning or unwitting intelligence asset and they may have had his plane wired up and they're the ones who have all this stuff. So the point is, to sum it up,

2:55:20 How, how do you know some of these countries aren't going to some of these power players who aren't making decisions because, Hey, he wouldn't want this video out there. Right. How do you know? A hundred percent? I don't think Bongino is a bad guy, but more and more, I think he's kind of like a boxer dog. He means well, but he's not that smart. Look at this. I was told Epstein belonged to intelligence leave it alone. That was the U S attorney that prosecuted Epstein the first time. Of course he's intelligent. She's a triple agent, Masad, MI six CIA. His wife or girlfriend, Gizli Maxwell's dad ran the franchise for God's sakes. So Cole Seraphin said something when he first came on 30 minutes ago that I'm pretty mad at myself I didn't notice. And then I, when he was talking, I was searching it and yeah, there it was. But I knew he was telling the truth, but I was just like, God, why did I miss that? And it was just like with the, uh, you know, Russiagate investigation that, you know, and they took five years to do it because

2:56:13 That ended the statute of limitations, the Durham investigation. I had Roger Stone on second hour talking about that. And so yesterday I shoot a video in the afternoon after this breaks and I'm trying to be friendly to the Trump administration. So I give them the benefit of the doubt even though I say, looks like they've announced through Fox News, their mouthpiece, that they've launched a criminal investigation on Comey, Brennan and Clapper. for the Russiagate and for creating this attempted coup and this destabilization and election meddling. They released it today because of the firestorm over the Jeffrey Epstein case. He didn't even have a crooked toenail, as Ben Shapiro said. Looks like he was totally innocent. Just nothing ever happened. Sure, his girlfriend's convicted of human trafficking, but he wasn't a human trafficker. He didn't have any accomplices. He wasn't blackmailing people. There weren't any other Johns. He killed himself. I said, hopefully that's not it. Hopefully,

2:57:09 Pigs fly because I was told that there was criminal investigations going on for just part of people before and they were like we can't tell you about it But maybe it's some of the new things they've done, you know, they explained that to me but And they said that's what we're interested in your case because they got sloppy with it. I'm like great So we've sent that information on these are pretty high level people that have good records but Then I just sometimes I think I'm smart and then I miss the most obvious stuff here when you're smart You know the little stuff but then the big obvious thing you miss you're kind of retarded. I told you a roving years ago The Statue of Limitations is over. And they're even in the Fox News leak that it's perjury and stuff, not, if I saw treason or I saw espionage or how they work with China, we now know in the Senate report, which we set back at the time in 2020 to bring in the mail-in ballots and all that, if I saw treason,

2:58:03 But no, it's perjury and stuff. It's open and shut. It's over just like Durham and I dropped the ball. Kyle, elaborate on that and let's play this Fox News clip and I'll let you get out of here. But that, that is the elephant in the room. This is certified stunt horse shit. This is certified stunt horse shit. It's, it, the statute expired. years ago, literally. If they were serious, by the way, Alex, there's a way they could have done this seriously. If they told me they were opening investigations into Christopher Wray, and they're going to go after Merrick Garland. By the way, I gave them everything they need to prove or at least to start the allegation, the criminal complaint, to go in and say, okay, we have a credible allegation. This was Kyle Serafin's whistleblower activity, October 2021, Merrick Garland committed perjury under oath. If you want to go after perjury charges, which are kind of weak, do it.

2:58:50 I told them that we had a juxtaposition of Merrick Garland saying under oath that they would not use counterterrorism tools against parents at school board meetings. And less than five days later, the FBI's counterterrorism division put out the famous thing that made me no longer have a job. And it was Jim Jordan's people that went forward with it. So you got a smoking easy option there to start pursuing it. All you need to do is pull emails and decide if he had foreknowledge and if he actually colluded to do so. And maybe you get him for a conspiracy as well and anybody involved. The second piece of it is Chris Wray. If he was involved in stopping any of the prosecutions, if he was doing any malfeasance, they would go after Chris Wray. He's still within the statute.

2:59:26 The statute of limitations is five years for non capital offenses. The last time they went after a treason case in the United States, I think was either 1952 or 1953 and Eisenhower actually commuted that sentence. So the last time you had a legitimate prosecution for treason is like during the post Civil War era. It's not a current law that is being used. So for anybody that goes, what about this? It's not happening. They already told you the people who cannot be convicted, who can't even be legitimately charged under the statute because 18 USC, the 18 USC code forbids them going after this right now. So this is all performative in the same way that Kash Patel went out today and it seemed to take credit that the FBI has created a positive law enforcement environment. And that positive law enforcement environment somehow has lowered the number of on duty deaths by police officers.

3:00:18 I'm really thankful that police officers are not dying at the same level they were last year. There's 50% less. The FBI has zero to do with it. The two most common causes of death on duty are gunfire from adverse actors, so you got a bad guy shooting at you, or traffic accidents. The FBI has zero relevance in any of that. But to claim credit for it, just like they're claiming credit for the murder rate, everything is distraction. We're gonna go after Comey and Brennan. We're gonna go out there and lower the murder rate, even though the FBI by and large does not investigate murder and has no meaningful effect on murder rates. By the way, all the stats are juiced. We were complaining about it under Biden, but now they're legit because it's our FBI. It's all BS. This is smoke and mirrors. One of the way I do know about that, what started with Biden, they suddenly had all the major blue cities. It was like over 800 stop reporting crime statistics. So of course you're gonna have lower crime if there's no statistics.

3:01:09 And what's even funnier is that you're Bungino and Patel go out there and claim it. They were like, wow, we're doing such a great job. Murder is going down. They're doing it based on quarterly reports, which are the least accurate reports because Alex, you probably know this. Some cities only report annually. They don't give quarterly updates. They just do it once a year. Here's what our stats are for the year. So they're always gonna be low. They always adjust upward at the end of the year. And by the way, violent crime in general across all categories has been trending downward since 2020. That's just an American trend right now, and it's great. And by the way, homicide rates going down doesn't always mean that law enforcement's doing the best job or that everybody is stopping and murdering each other. It means that the emergency rooms and the surgeries we can do and the medical miracles that take place in those emergency suites and trauma medicine is increasing at a rate that is amazing. A lot of the battlefield tactics

3:01:55 and things that were learned in the war on terror for the last 20 years are now making it into ERs and they're making it into street medicine. So there's a lot of reasons for these things to act like the FBI has something to do with the murder rate going down. You would know about that because you've been in EMT as well. All right, amazing. Yeah, I spent 10 years as a paramedic. There are always multi-factor analysis. When they give you the simple answer, you know they're lying to you. I mean, your audience knows that too. I've been told that by doctors and people I know, and they just say the knowledge from the wars is incredible. It's insane. I mean, look, people used to tell you like in my lifetime, it was a death sentence to be able to put a tourniquet on somebody to stop bleeding. It is the default position for a serious bleed. You do it now as a default position. If you have a serious bleed, it could even be a venous bleed. It doesn't have to be arterial. They will tell you just if you're losing a lot of blood, put on a tourniquet. There's no downside to it. And as long as they get to you within that day, they're going to be able to solve the problem.

3:02:49 They know how to mitigate the effects of it. It used to be that if you put a tourniquet on, you thought you were losing that limb. So people would do it as a last resort. And a lot of people have died from it. But tons of lessons have been learned from the war on terror over in the emergency medical field. And the best thing is, is you got a bunch of former combat medics and so on going out on the streets. Some of them are now cops, and they know some of the lessons of self-aid and buddy care that are taught in the various different armed forces units. So yeah, that was the thing that I did. I did see this stuff actually flow in. I was in emergency rooms in Tucson, Arizona in 2012, where they didn't have tourniquets on hand to stop bleeds of people coming in with massive leg lacerations. And by the next year, of course, they're putting them on right away. And you saw people die and then you saw people not die from those injuries. So you cannot underestimate that or try to act like the FBI had anything to do with lowering of the murder rate. When people live, they call it attempted murder and they don't categorize it the same way.

3:03:40 Well, anyway, it's depressing to me to see these guys lie because it tells me they're not doing a good job. And it also means, and you know this too, these are media guys. Patel, Bondi's been around media a lot. She's been on Fox an awful lot. Bongino, obviously as well. They're media, which means they're savvy, which means they know they're lying. They know they're trying to spin and they're being run by PR people, which is exactly what a senior FBI supervisor told me the other day. The FBI is currently being run basically like a social media influencer camp. And they're just getting moved by the waves of the public opinion that they sent out on Twitter. Well, I could give them advice if they're a cover up Epstein, shut up. I mean, that's not right. Yeah, it would have been the best move.

3:04:17 All right, Kyle Serafin, very interesting. We just, we'll just move forward. Thanks for talking to us. Yeah, you bet. Thanks, Alex. All right, let's get Matt Bracken on. I apologize for getting him on 14 minutes late, but I had to finish up with that. Look, here's what's going on in my brain. All I can do with viewers and listeners is just tell you what I'm thinking, because when I'm cutting around something, an issue, I know what I stand for. You know, Second Amendment, pro-life, national sovereignty, you know, anti-nuclear war. But Trump's doing a lot of good and then I'm starting to see some bad. And I'm kind of having thoughts, am I spending too much time on this Epstein fiasco or not enough? And I think I'm spending a lot of time on it to get messages up to the Trump administration, which we know they're watching, and the FBI. Whoever's setting you up to do this stuff, you need to fire them because you're doing the dumbest stuff I've ever seen. You just saw the Heritage Foundation say, this is a really smart club. This is the dumbest thing they've ever seen. That's what I've been saying since Monday. I mean,

3:05:17 Good God, I want the Democrats' leadership dismantled. I want their ass in jail for the crimes they committed. I need you to win. I need you to succeed. And we know the Border Patrol and ICE is under attack. And we know they're gearing up all these attacks. And we know that they got some really nasty plans here. And I see a lot of good messaging out of Pam Bondi and Cash Patel and Bongino. And I know Trump hires people off of loyalty, smarts, but also being good on air. Look at Agsa, I think he's a very competent, nice guy, I like him, good looking guy. Combat vet, I think he's a good choice, but at the end of the day, it's cuz he's on Fox News and Articulate. That's why Trump put him in there. And hopefully he's got all the right advisors on these areas. But now I see the Trump administration making radical self-harming moves with the Epstein action, and it makes my blood go chill.

3:06:13 Alright Matt Bracken best-selling author researcher former Navy SEAL counterterrorism experts enemies foreign domestic calm to put his ex account up as well We've got him for the next 44 minutes and apologize game on late man. I wanted to get you on since last week. I About the scaling up of leptis violence the attack in McAllen the attack in North, Texas The ice being attacked in the streets if they go into an illegal alien gathering they call it a school camp Which it's not I wanted to get you on about all of that And you know what we've seen since no Kings and your research and Intel now with some hindsight on the bizarre Minnesota actions and the supposed shooter saying he was doing it for Tim Walz. They try to immediately blame me and Trump with this witness the first day. I mean, it's got all the hallmarks and then what you're getting is coming next. But I want to table that till we go to break front and center. And I also want to hit Russia and escalations there that are big and where you think that's going. But first off, because I haven't talked to you, I just appreciate you on.

3:07:16 What do you think about the Epstein behavior we've seen from the administration and what, again, if they were going to cover it up for national security issues, I still don't think that's right, but you can, you know, too many powerful leaders, we're making deals with foreign governments, we're kind of using the file that we want. That's, it justifies the means, and I wouldn't do it, but I could go, oh yeah. But why come out and literally Try to create the biggest rise and effect you ever could with that bizarre press conference in Bondi and the things they're saying in this memo. I mean, and Trump saying it's over close it. What do you think or what do you know is going on Matt Bragg? I think that I listened to Kyle Serafin carefully and I agree, you know, the with the PR social media aspect running the FBI, you know taking claim credit for the murder rate dropping and so forth but

3:08:12 I see a strong Israel hand in this, I really do. If the FBI seized all of this information, terabytes of information, and Epstein was his brownstone and the island were Mossad, Honeypot, and he was the front man, these were Honeypot traps, then it's reasonable to assume that they were picking this information up. you know, like it would be picked up routinely. It wouldn't just be like physically left in the brownstone to be collected by the FBI and nowhere else. So even if Trump ordered all of this to be destroyed, okay, just burn it. That doesn't mean that Mossad doesn't have it. And you have to look at the background of the key players here

3:09:01 Kash Patel is very, very strongly pro-Israel. The other day he has a quote, we have to get people to prioritize Israel. Dan Bongino, I watched his show for years. He's not a neocon, except when it comes to Israel. He's for like, you can level Gaza, anything after October 7th is justified. So, and somebody that's not as often mentioned is Suzy Wiles. She is the ultimate gatekeeper. When you talk about who's allowed in and who's not, why is Tulsi Gabbard at the children's table practically in the next room at the meeting yesterday? There were pictures where like, where's Tulsi Gabbard? And you have to find the right angle. She's the furthest person out in the corner.

3:09:52 Well, Suzy Wiles actually worked for Benjamin Netanyahu's 2020 campaign. She lived in Israel. She worked for Netanyahu. As far as I'm concerned, you can split hairs on, and Kyle mentioned this, sometimes you'll actually have an asset who is given a senior position but he's controlled by a junior, on the real side. Suzy Wiles, as far as I'm considered, is Mossad. I mean, you can say no, Matt, she clear a break. That was when 2020 she was working for BB Netanyahu, but now she's not. Well, early people that are getting to Trump right now are very strongly pro Israel. Nobody else. We can't even get an appointment.

3:10:39 And I mentioned this the first of the show, I've talked to a lot of Dalton people inside the administration, you name it, and they said, that's it, they said there's a war over power in the administration by Israel and the patriots. The Democrats still have their Antifa and their leftist NGOs and their operations, but they're been sidelined pretty much so far. But now Israel sees as a weakness and is swooping in to basically take control of the administration. Is that what you're saying? Definitely, and we see this with the recent 12-day war. Credit to Trump for it. He's great at naming things, nicknames, and he really seized the moment by giving it the name. Because anybody that is going to break the ceasefire would be wrecking his narrative that it's a 12-day war.

3:11:27 The fact that he participated in a sneak attack, we might say, yeah, this is really clever. This is great. But as far as I'm concerned, what we did was very dishonorable. In some respects, it was worse than the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor in that the Japanese and American side were negotiating right up to Pearl Harbor. But in the hours before the attack, just to diplomatically cover their bases. They broke off negotiations and set up, but in this case, we were actually negotiating. The negotiating team is thinking, next Monday, we're gonna continue these negotiations.

3:12:10 The Israelis sent their ninja assassins in and actually not only killed generals, killed scientists and their families. If it took a rocket through a window, they just killed the family. And or just shot people as they're leaving their house in the morning and killed the negotiators that they could find. Trump was very schizoid about this in the early days of the-. When you kill negotiators, that's a war crime. And it's ultimately totally self-defeating. It's an own goal, especially to laugh about it, like Trump did. He said, yeah, we were going to be negotiating with some of these guys next week, but I guess they won't be around. Ha ha ha. That was when he thought that Israel was on a total roll and was going to wipe out Iran. Didn't work out that way.

3:13:01 So if you kill negotiators in the middle of negotiations, who's ever going to sit and seriously negotiate with you? I mean, I listened to Roger Stone earlier. Well, explain in the law of war, you come with a white flag to negotiation, to parley, you never kill the ambassadors. And like you said, even the Japanese, a day before Pearl Harbor had enough honor, they pulled them. Right, and said the negotiations are over and implied that a state of war was the next step. But in this case, we were negotiating with the Iranians. America was negotiating with the Iranians. Oh, the news brags, oh, we got them to all think they were safe by thinking that was a deal. And now that takes Trump power away because usually he's a straight shooter. Now he's, that's what I'm seeing. I'm seeing major departure from normal Trump behavior.

3:13:51 And right, and for this to happen, I was listening to Roger Stone and Roger is like a very strong Trump ally and a friend for many years. So I get it, he's putting the best spin on it. But saying that Trump is trying to negotiate a peace between Ukraine and Russia, to me is ridiculous today. Number one, we don't have the leverage. We don't have the weapons. We're a side player. This is like Britain saying they're negotiating. We are not the main player in Ukraine now. Russia is going to continue rolling forward slowly but while attriting the Ukrainian side. The Russians have the manpower, have the factories. Ukraine can't replace the manpower and we're so low on our war stocks

3:14:40 that they say, Trump flipped in the last day. But Trump's saying we're gonna send more, it doesn't increase Patriot missile production, right? I mean, we're down to practically what they call Winchester ammo on things like the standard missiles that the destroyers fire to protect Israel. Well, it's also what the destroyers would have to fire to protect the carriers or protect American cities. So, if you have to fire four of these things at every ballistic missile coming in from Iran, the math doesn't work for our side. It's like the Houthis. If you have to spend millions of dollars of missiles to shoot down a $100,000 drone, the math doesn't work in the long run because the other side can just keep it up.

3:15:29 I'm sorry. Engage in these embargoes basically blockades and a way of a way of looking at this is this is all part of the same war and it's it's like stepping on a balloon, you know You squeeze it in one place and it squeezes out in another place So for the time being the 12-day war is over. There's no actual ceasefire. It's just a virtual ceasefire They could begin again at any time, but the Houthis are showing a US Navy come on back and play you know that and I heard a figure

3:16:16 It's like $250 a week to keep a carrier battle, $250 million per week. It's like a billion dollars a month for a carrier battle group. So if rogue outfits like the Houthis, you know, on a shoestring budget can cause Uncle Sam to burn billions of dollars and deplete our war stocks that if we ever had to fight China or Russia, we wouldn't have. Because we just don't have the production. And what did you make of Trump saying five days ago? We got to stop shipping weapons to Ukraine. We're out of weapons. Then he goes, ah, we're gonna go ahead and do it. Well, I think that Pete Hegseth is listening to the counters, the weapon counters that are just saying, look, we don't produce enough. We're using it

3:17:05 We're using months worth of production in days. So the politicians are saying accelerate war. The actual war fighters are saying stop. We can't, we don't have the ammunition. If the 12-day war continued for a month, we'd have nothing. And the Iranians would just continue to fire ballistic missiles. And the thing about a ballistic missile, it's very important. It sounds simple, but as opposed to say a cruise missile or even a supersonic cruise missile, that almost anything can knock it down. You deflect it, it'll go into the ocean. A ballistic missile is like a cannonball, okay? Once it's launched up in the air, it's coming down near the target.

3:17:49 It's like in Armageddon, the movie. You're not going to knock that meteor out of the path so it deflects away from Earth. It's still going to hit Earth. The payload is still going to hit Tel Aviv. It may go off, explode high order, or it may not. But the kinetic damage from it is still going to be great. So if If you have to fire $20 million worth of missiles at every ballistic missile coming in from Iran, they can keep that up for years and we can't. And now Israel wants the US to strike again, it's cooking something up. Let's come back and talk about this with Matt Bracken.

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3:20:54 when we're gas lit and have all these Israeli operatives attacking us for questioning the Iran escalation and the Epstein cover up. But like Bracken said, Israel's fingerprints are all over this. And I've talked to high level advisors of Trump, intelligence people the last two days, talked a lot this morning. And they basically said, well, we can't give you a lot of details, but yeah, this is a fight from the US and Israel. Israel knows the Democrats have been knocked out. Partially, they're trying to swoop in and basically have a coup over America. So I'm not one of these guys that, you know, hates Israel or harps on it all day. You know, the neocons were heavily involved in 9-11 and the Bushes and our Middle Eastern policy, but they're not the only power bloc. There's Communist China, there's the Black Rock Globalists, there's all that. But Netanyahu, with the people he's got in the administration, is undoubtedly making a move right now. And you can see it on his face, he's on a huge power trip. And so, is the U.S. wagging the tail?

3:21:57 Or are we the tail or are they the dog? This is a dangerous situation. I want to shift gears in left-wing terrorism and other issues here with Matt Bragg and great national security analyst, former Navy SEAL, terrorism expert, author, enemiesforeigndomestic.com. You can follow him on X, we'll put that up on screen. But Matt, big picture, Putin definitely doesn't see this as strength. We've got Putin sends message to US with record 700 drone and missile attacks overnight. Trump has said basically that, well, quotas, Putin's now full of BS. And I'm not a Putinite by any stretch of the imagination, but NATO started this long escalation war. Russia's out producing weapons, he said three to one, the money's not there. So

3:22:52 China sees that as weakness. I know China wanted us to go into Iran because it depletes our weapons. They can do the math, they can bean count as good as anybody, maybe better. I mean, America on trade and other issues was starting to win, but yeah, the border's getting secured. But suddenly in the last three months, I'm seeing Trump take a very dramatic turn on a bunch of issues to very destructive waters. And I would be Derelict to my duty as an American citizen, as a father, to not be criticizing it. What is your big picture view of what's happening? You're a smart guy, but what do you think's really going on? A and then B, how do we get Trump to course correct back? I mean, I think it's by criticizing him. I know these messages get back to him. Big picture, and then what do we do?

3:23:43 Well, I think that Israel is trying to suck us into a major war with Iran for sure. And Israel doesn't care about regime change. I hear that all the time. Israel wants regime annihilation the way they did in Syria. Netanyahu knows they can't control who the next leader of Iran is. Well, that's right. As soon as they got rid of Assad, they blew up the whole infrastructure, not just military. Right, there's no more Syrian Air Force tanks, APCs, runways, they just roamed the country. Power stations, everything. So it's basically down to Jolani's now our man, the former ISIS murderer that had a $10 million bounty.

3:24:29 So for Israel, this is a good outcome in Syria. It was terrible for the Syrian Alawites and Christians. No matter what Assad was, he was a sectarian leader, not an ISIS, Takfiri, Muslim radical. But what they would like to see in Iran is, is Iran power plants destroyed, refineries destroyed, Iran starving, and then fighting among itself. It will no longer be a power in the region if it's reduced to a giant Syria. Now, from the American point of view, our perspective,

3:25:06 It would be the worst possible outcome to be forced to put boots on the ground in Iran. We think that Trump believes we can put the end stone, end cap on any kind of a confrontation because we have this B2 bomber that can just hit any target. But that doesn't end the war if Iran doesn't wanna end the war, just the way that we saw with the Houthis continuing to sink ships in the Red Sea. Iran people need to keep this in mind. It's almost three times as big as Syria. Well, they're surrounded by mountains. They can also block the Strait of Hormuz. They can block that real quick. Right. They have their own Samson option, which is block the Strait of Hormuz and it would affect the entire global economy because the Asian countries get 80% of their fuel from there.

3:25:55 But to try to actually, if they just keep firing missiles, let's say that we're bombing the hell out of Tehran, but that doesn't stop the missiles from flying out of the desert. Then you eventually have to start with special operations troops, then Marines landing on the shores of the Strait of Hormuz to try to attack these anti-ship cruise missiles that are on trucks hidden in caves. People have to drink of this. And Trump has made statements like anything's an option. Well, it's not an option. We couldn't take out Iraq. I'm looking at the numbers. You're a Navy SEAL and a historian. Isn't Iran, for an invasion perspective, like 10 times worse than Iraq?

3:26:38 10 times. It's five times as big as Germany. It's five times as big as Vietnam. It has 90 million people. You know, it has 10 times the population of Israel and like 100 times the land mass. So Israel's only chance fighting Iran is to suck America into it. But it would be five times worse than Vietnam. I mean, imagine, you know, just the distance to get there Once you do an amphibious invasion anywhere in Iran, then you've got to cross a thousand miles of deserts across mountains like Arizona You know just to even get near to that's why even the Romans and people could never take it because it's a it's a it's a natural fortress It is a natural fortress and they're very smart people. They don't unlike the Saudis. They don't have to buy their weapons You know, they never like the Russians in a sense

3:27:33 They decided not to try to build an aircraft carrier to prove that they can build an aircraft carrier. The Russians concentrated on submarines and missile technology. They're also very good at jet fighters. But the Iranians never did get by the jet fighters. since like the Shah of Iran era, they concentrated on missiles that they can continue to fight even, you know, no matter what the Israelis do, they can keep slugging them with ICBMs. And, you know, another week and Israel would have been, you know, their refineries, their power stations, and most importantly, their reverse osmosis water desalinization plants.

3:28:15 You hit these and Israel has no fuel, no power, and no drinking water. So Israel's only chance is pulling us into the war. And America can't afford it. It's five times bigger than Vietnam, five times bigger than Germany. It's almost three times as big as Texas. And it's on the other side of the world. And it's not a place where you can invade and then roll to Baghdad. We know how that worked out. This would be an order of magnitude tougher than the Iraq war. And meanwhile, our own forces are completely depleted since the 1990-91 desert storm episode pushing Saddam out of Kuwait. And then the post 9-11 Operation Iraqi Freedom, we don't even have that force anymore.

3:29:09 So to try to get America involved in a land war in Iran, if that's Israel's play is to get us to be the, you know, the punisher, I think it's a terrible thing to do because it would just absolutely wreck what is left of America. Well, anybody who's ever studied battlefields looks at Iran, it looks like a trap for a foreign army. And it has been through history. Now, the Romans attacked and the Persians were worn down. And then the Muslims did invade and take it over, but it still got the same physical features.

3:29:45 And they control the Strait of Hormuz, so they have their own Samson option. If we got to the point where we wrecked their economy, took out their power grid, took out their refineries, you think they're just gonna say, hey go ahead Saudi Arabia, you'll make even more money selling oil to China now. No, they'll close the Strait of Hormuz and they can do it easily. And they're parliamentary, they voted to do it but they've held off, so we only have a little bit of time left on the main subject. We can't even keep the Red Sea open against the Houthis. So, the shift to years of domestic, I don't want to count the Democrats out. We're dealing with Israel, Hornet in, and then, well, let's talk about Russia. What do you make of Russia's escalation? What's happening there?

3:30:26 The Russian war is, the Russia-Ukraine war is interesting. It's mainly a battle of logistics at this point. It has some echoes of the American Civil War where you can say, oh, Confederate fighters fought so bravely and they were on their own home ground and had all these advantages. Right, but New England was cranking out cannons, right, locomotives. They could lay rail and destroy Confederate rail. And eventually the logistics win. It's that old cliche, you know, amateurs talk strategy and professionals talk logistics. The Russians have the logistics. They can now continue firing missiles at increasing rates. Day after day.

3:31:11 Right, and this will relate to the other topic, which is the left-wing terror. Because I think drone warfare has been the biggest revolution in military affairs since the Second World War, on a par with nuclear weapons being developed. It's revolutionized everything. Especially autonomous destruction. It means that there's no more big arrow, what Colonel Dan Davis calls the big arrow movements. The Schwartzkopf end around in Desert Storm. We're not gonna see that anymore because a $1,000 drone can kill a million dollar tank all day long.

3:31:56 Right, so the Russians are not going to have some big arrow attack on Kiev or, you know, sweep to the Dnieper because you have to consolidate every kilometer. You have to move forward and then move your electronic warfare Like a sci-fi movie, your shield, you know, your electronic warfare shield. Nothing can get out ahead of your electronic warfare shield. So the gains are going to be small and incremental, but meanwhile they're attriting the Ukrainian manpower, which the Ukrainians can't rejoice. But Russia said, we're going to go in slowly and then we're going to destroy all the NATO weapons. I mean, they said that.

3:32:43 Yeah, but that footage there is showing old Russian bombers that were by treaty, by the START treaty, left in the open the way we have left B-52s in the open, showing that they're not operational as part of the START treaty. So this is another kind of dishonorable thing where- Another violation of treaties, yeah. Right, because we're saying to the Ukrainians, okay, you do the dirty work. We'll show you where they are, you do the dirty work. But those bombers were parked there under a treaty. So, so, you know, we're just, but it goes to your point of the power of drones. So getting the left wing, it sounds like you're predicting which I agree as well. We're going to start seeing drone attacks with the left.

3:33:24 Yeah, there are and I will not discount that there are tactically proficient Antifa, you're using that as a general term, not necessarily like, you know, take an organization. No, General, they are the pedophile, satanic, communist force. I mean, that's a joke, folks. That's what they are. The university professors, you know. But in North Carolina, in Oregon, in Washington, there are guys that are trained, that have night vision, they have radios, they have weapons with thermal. There are guys like that. But as we saw with the attack on the ICE people, They're not, their strong suit is not going to be toe-to-toe tactics carrying rifles. It's not their strong suit. But somewhere there are nerds in this country that are, that have been following the developments in Russia very carefully. And I reposted a sub stack, I do sub stack now and then. I reposted a sub stack on drone warfare in Civil War II, meaning in America.

3:34:27 So when people are proficient with these drones and you can order them from China, dozens of them, a hundred of them, they'll come to your house by Amazon. If you figure out and you train with one, you can make a hundred. The way we saw with the first night of the Israeli attacks in Iran and also that attack on the bomber base in Russia. So somebody can launch in one night a hundred drones. This is going to happen and we're gonna see drones used for assassinations. The kid, the alleged solo shooter up in Pennsylvania had a drone for his own reconnaissance, but he could have just as easily have had an explosive charge in it and flown it right into the dais. And we're going to see things like that. And it's perfect for the Deep State to have a Patsy out there, they can have a few drones.

3:35:22 and then have plausible liability about who launched them. So here's a clip of a great Green Beret medical doctor friend of mine, Doc Chambers, he lives right outside Austin, Texas, with Laura Logan talking about the intel. He's not a BSer, he's been down there heavily on the border with the government, we'll see about that. Saying that there are groups smuggling massive amounts of these, just like Israel smuggled them in to Iran, just like Ukraine with NATO smuggled them into Russia. We are way more open than Russia. and Ukraine and Iran. So just imagine that here as Doc Chambers talking about it. What else did you see coming over that border? Okay, so yeah, we have to be careful with this one. Hardware. I know personally of military hardware. Yes. Drones. Drones for sure. I've watched them come across. I've physically seen the drones. Explosives. Explosives for sure, absolutely. Surface to air missiles. Yes. Not in Texas, but the information came to us

3:36:16 about another state where they came across as a port of entry. Okay, and so what you have really is a collaboration between the Mexican cartels, the Venezuelan cartels, all of whom are now designated as foreign terrorist organizations, working with the Iranian Revolutionary Guards units. They're docked in Venezuelan passports, yes. And the CCP, Chinese, facilitating? 100%, it's harder for them to hide when they come across, but they do. They pay differently and come different. So it's like an American enemies convention, aided and abetted by our domestic enemies. Aided and abetted by that and then aided and abetted by certain individuals on this side of the border that are American citizens that have, are in positions of power. What do you make of that Matt Bragg?

3:37:01 just not dwelling on which weapons he's talking about, but naming all of the groups and Lara Logan said it sounds like an American enemies convention. When you have so many enemies, it makes it much easier to pull the trigger on an operation because enemy A can blame it on enemy B that they're not exactly crazy about. You know, the Bolsheviks- He gives them camouflage, that's key. Gives them camouflage. Right, the Bolsheviks can do an assassination and blame the Trotskyites, right? And say we had nothing to do with it. And you kind of get, you also get rid of some of your competition at the same time. Because the American security state will come down hard on the Sinaloa cartel in America while the Gulf cartel is laughing, right? Because they, well, you could have the Chinese do something and have Iran blamed. You could have anybody do something and have other people blamed.

3:37:59 Right, and we live in a glass house. We have to remember it's not World War II. We're not protected by two giant oceans. Try as they might, the Germans and the Japanese could not put a bomb in New York or San Francisco. And they tried. Little things from submarines maybe. But they couldn't just attack America and turn our lights out. Japan tried with fire balloons. They tried and they experimented in China with bubonic plague dropping canisters of plague fleas in China, things like that. But they couldn't just wipe out Chicago or New York. But if you turn the lights out in American city, you might as well bomb it. Because once you put the power out in American cities, and if you do it at multiple cities the same time,

3:38:53 We won't be able to self-correct it. There won't be the Transformers in a warehouse somewhere to repair all of this. And we have Hollywood with all the Joker movies and culture promoting when the power goes off, everyone's supposed to go crazy and kill each other. We have our own establishment priming that. Why is that? Yeah, the predictive programming is very strong. I think that subliminally the last 20 years all the zombie movies have been the real subliminal messages that when things go haywire, all of these predators are going to come pouring out of the cities looking for food, right?

3:39:30 That's the real subliminal message of the whole zombie movie phenomenon of the last 15, 20 years. And people in the suburbs are prepared for this scenario where the stores will all be looted. And the rule number one of looting is you gotta be there first, okay? If you're the civilized guy who waits, by the time you get to the Walmart supermarket, it's empty. And with media spreading the message, if something happens in St. Louis, Baltimore, or Chicago, then people in Atlanta and LA are gonna say, shoot, I better get to the store and loot it now. The credit card systems are down, the EBT cards aren't working, and my kids are gonna be starving, so let's just loot the stores. And there are many other ways to attack this country, starting wildfires and so forth,

3:40:27 My point is, we shouldn't be bragging. I'm not proud of the 4th of July showing B-2 bombers after we just did a mission for Israel which started this 12-day war with a dishonorable sneak attack during negotiations. And then we're proudly waving the flag while B-2s are flying over Washington on the 4th of July. That's gonna come back to haunt us. because all the B-2s and all the aircraft carriers aren't going to fix our power grid if our enemies do cyber attacks or kinetic attacks because they finally decide America will die. And again, the globalist, the Klaus Schwab types could hit our power grid, which they've been preparing and blaming on Iran. Easily. Hey, listen, before we go, I want to say, and I

3:41:16 The debate with Dinesh D'Souza and Nick Fuentes and then Nick's appearance yesterday was amazing. And it gives me so much hope for the future that we have guys that are that smart. I mean, that was really great for you to give him the time because Nick Fuentes, like Alex Jones, like Darrell Cooper, is one of these guys where the first you hear about him is, don't listen to him. It's like the devil. He's so sly. You just can't listen to Alex Jones or Darrell Cooper or Nick Fuentes. Well, I listened and I'm very impressed.

3:41:54 And, and I, you know, I'm really gives me hope that there are some folks like that, that are just ready to go for the next couple generations. I go back to remembering Martin Luther King, RFK, all those, all of those assassinations in 68. I remember them, weather underground, the terror bombings, Black Panthers, all of that. And I think we are rolling into another phase like that, but I think that in some ways it could be worse because... No, I agree. I think the whole Leptis uprising is the cover for the real enemies. But just to think of the tech changes in technology...

3:42:36 The weather underground had to actually physically sneak a bomb into the capital or into an officer's club in Fort Dix. That took some planning and nerve, and now you can just fly 20 drones in from 10 miles outside the base. You know, that's right. Well, you're saying impressive things as well, Matt Bracken, and people need to find you on X, you go to enemies, foreign domestic dot com. Join us again soon as this unfolds. Overall, we need Trump. We need him to win. We need him to be on our side. But I just have to say we should all start putting pressure on him because there's major Israeli pressure in there. That's the main group now, folks, horning in on our revolution. You remember that statement?