Wednesday, 8 May 2024

Breaking: Nick Fuentes And Alex Jones Debate The Future Of The World In Powerful Interview

A deep dive into the collapse of the Trump prosecutions, the return of banned voices to social media, and the legislative assault on the First Amendment.

By The Alex Jones Show | 1h 40m listen | 32 chapters
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About this episode

Donald Trump faces a crumbling legal landscape as the Georgia prosecution led by Fani Willis collapses under claims of incompetence and deep state overreach. Nick Fuentes joins the program following his high-profile reinstatement to X by Elon Musk, marking a pivotal shift in the digital censorship regime that has dominated the political arena since 2016. The discussion centers on the Anti-Semitism Awareness Act and HR 6090, which critics argue effectively criminalizes the First Amendment and the New Testament to protect foreign interests.

Global tensions escalate as Benjamin Netanyahu demands world leaders block ICC arrest warrants while the shadow war between Israel and Iran moves into direct military conflict. The legislative push to codify IHRA definitions into state law in Texas and Florida is identified as a threat to American sovereignty, alongside the deployment of Lavender AI for autonomous targeting in Gaza. Secondary reports detail the FBI entrapment tactics used in the Governor Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping plot and the strategic role of Javier Milei in securing Argentina’s lithium reserves for the electric vehicle industry.

Nick Fuentes details his experience on federal no-fly lists and the legal intervention by attorney Norm Pattis that challenged his travel restrictions. The host recounts a past attempt by Henry Kissinger’s associates to buy his silence with a lucrative New York media deal. The conversation concludes with a call for a pro-human future, urging a return to traditional family values and high fertility rates to counter the transhumanist philosophy of Yuval Noah Harari and the World Economic Forum.


CHAPTER 02 / 32 Discussion

InfoWars Guest Introduction, Nick Fuentes and Family Emergency

Nick Fuentes joins the program for a multi-hour discussion following a scheduled in-studio appearance that was cancelled due to an emergency. The host mentions a personal loss involving his father-in-law and notes that a planned Twitter Spaces event with Mario Nawfal was also cancelled. The segment transitions into a broader discussion on global issues and free speech.

nick fuentes· infowars· mario nawfal· alex jones· emergency

01:44 While other networks lie to you about what's happening now, InfoWars tells you the truth about what's happening next. Visit InfoWars.com forward slash show and share the link today. Nick J. Fuentes is our guest for the next two hours and I appreciate him coming on. there. He was going to be in studio. We had an emergency come up, which I totally get. My wife's dad died last night. I barely made it the show. We're there at the hospital. He died last night, like seven o'clock. Not complaining. He's gone on to the next level passed over the other side, but I'm still here today. This morning calls me like five a.m. already up. I can't come. I got an emergency. I totally understand. We're gonna do a huge spaces with the Mario to fall tonight. We're gonna cancel that because he's got stuff major stuff. He's got to deal with it. I understand that.

CHAPTER 03 / 32 Discussion

Elon Musk, X Free Speech and Nick Fuentes Reinstatement

Elon Musk is credited with restoring free speech to the X platform by reinstating controversial figures like Nick Fuentes. The host reflects on past interviews with Kanye West and expresses a desire to move beyond debating the Third Reich to focus on transhumanism and globalism. Fuentes' return to X is noted as a significant trend that reached millions of people through recent social media interactions.

elon musk· x· twitter· nick fuentes· kanye west

02:32 All right. I don't want to have a tit for tat thing like we had a year and a half ago when Kanye West was here. I didn't know that was going to happen. I want to have a real discussion about issues in the whole world. And now here we are with the richest man in the world on paper, Elon Musk, a true maverick by any yardstick. You can say, oh, he didn't really do those giant rockets at half the cost of NASA. He didn't really, yeah, he did all that. And now he's brought free speech back to a great extent to X compared to other platforms. He said, hey, I'm putting Nick J. Fuentes back on. That's exploded from the top trends last four days. I did a spaces with him that reached millions and millions of people a few days ago.

03:14 And so here we are. But I was impressed and I'll be completely honest about this. I was very impressed and it was my daughter's seventh birthday so I could only do an hour. I had to leave. People thought, oh, you're mad at Nick. You left in an hour. No, I can only do an hour. Very great points Nick made. Excellent points that Nick Sordor made, that Mario Nafal made, that the guest made. I kind of want to repeat that and just cover a bunch of other big issues here instead of debating the third Reich and things like that. And I'm happy to go there. There's been no pre-interview here. There's been no, I said, if you got any questions or things you want to cover, you know, send them to me. So, so that's where we are, but.

03:50 But the Nick Fuentes I liked, and I'm not putting Nick down, was the guy I knew five years ago that exploded from nowhere and was America first and things I agree with and is really doing great talk shows as a very young man, knowing he would mature even better and better. And then when the Ye interview happened, I said, cover whatever you want. They go, oh, don't worry. It wasn't Nick. It was other folks with him. Oh, he wants to come in and apologize for what he said. I said, well, I don't even want that. I just want to cover all the other issues. We can spend some of the time on the stuff he wants to cover. But I have some questions. None of that happened. It was mainly press on the nerve of who's the most hardcore, who's the most real, who's the most wild.

CHAPTER 04 / 32 Discussion

Social Media Singularity, Trump Revolution and Censorship History

The period between 2013 and 2016 is described as a technological singularity where smartphones and social media enabled the Trump revolution. Following the 2016 election, a massive censorship regime was allegedly implemented by Google, Facebook, and activist groups like the ADL and SPLC to prevent future populist realignments. The banning of Donald Trump after January 6, 2021, is identified as the peak of this crackdown before the trend began to reverse.

social media· donald trump· adl· splc· censorship

04:28 And we can do that today, but I really don't wanna do it. I wanna talk about transhumanism, globalism, the open borders, the depopulation, the future of the world, censorship, ministers in Europe being arrested for free speech, what Trudeau is pushing. To me, all of that is pertinent because I want a big tent to get everybody to agree on, we agree on free speech and private property and God and basic liberties. But that said, Nick Fuentes, I appreciate you coming on. And I want to give you the floor because I have no idea where you're going to go. For the next 10 minutes, you've got the floor here to talk about this experience, what it's like. I've been through the same stuff you've been through. A few people have. It's quite the elite club, quite the painful club. And then you're welcome to go wherever you want. I've got a lot of questions and angles I don't

05:18 I mean, I watch your show maybe once a week when I can. I watch the clips every day. And so maybe I always get accused of not covering something and I actually have covered it. People just didn't see me cover it. So I've got a lot of stuff that I actually am intrigued that you're a smart guy. I want to hear your view on things and you can ask me questions as well. So Nick Fuentes, people can find you now at NickJFuentes on X, nicolasjfuentes.com. You do your own daily show. Thanks for being here, Nick. Hi, Alex. Thank you for having me. It's great to be with you. And it's been great to be back on X. As you said, we did a space this weekend. It's already at, I think, 2 million plus views. And just talking about the censorship regime and what you and I have both been put through, we've had a very similar experience of kind of the hero's journey. We were sent to hell in the land of censorship, banned from everything.

06:12 And it's been pretty incredible in just the last three years, there's been this free speech beachhead established on the internet by Rumble and now by Elon Musk with his acquisition of Twitter. So we both made it out of the underworld, you first and then me a little bit later. And to kind of recap some of the things that we talked about this weekend, I think the broad agreement that we have, although I know we don't agree on everything, is that the number one central issue is free speech on the internet. And like you said, we diverged at some point along the way, but I think you and I have always agreed that you cannot have a right wing, you cannot have a pro-freedom, pro-human, pro-American movement if we don't have access to the platforms. And I think something that people don't realize is how tenuous that is.

07:03 This is there was a very short window of time at the beginning of the last decade. I would say roughly between 2013 to 2016 when social media really became activated. This, I would say, is a specific singularity in the history of technological development when people had all gotten smartphones and social media. It's the hottest medium that has ever existed in the history of mankind for the first time, unlike even before, when people had Internet and computers. For the first time, roughly in that period, in the middle of the last decade,

07:39 Everybody was connected to everybody else on social media at all times via their smartphone. And I think that that created a very specific political outcome, which was the Trump revolution. It is no surprise that when, for the first time in history, the consciousness was elevated to such a high degree by social media and smartphones, it produced a wild populist nationalist revolution. Consequently, people started to realize that you had been right all along about so much of what you had said. People started to realize that what we had been told about 9-11 or the Iraq war

08:17 So many other tragic incidents had been used to program us and condition us to accept, I think, certain political narratives and agendas. And I think that is what produced the revolution we saw in 16, truly a political realignment and revolution. What happened after that was the largest crackdown on social media in history. Google, YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, the rest all undertook a censorship regime using artificial intelligence, using activist groups like ADL and SPLC. And in their own words, the stated intention was to make it so that something like the Trump election, a true populist realignment, can never happen again. Patriots can never talk to each other, do citizen journalism, talk about things outside the mainstream.

09:07 And I think that they were nearly successful. By 2020 and 2021, the process had effectively been completed. People like you and I and everyone in the middle had all been censored. Everyone that had not been censored was chilled. There was a chilling effect. And so those that were in outright banned, I think, began to self-censor because they didn't want to be banned on the social media platforms. I think it was the banning of Donald Trump after January 6, 2021, when this trend started to reverse. I think Trump was too big to ban. And when they banned him several days after January 6, that is when these other players got into the equation.

CHAPTER 05 / 32 Discussion

Rumble, X and the Free Speech Beachhead

Chris Pavlovski of Rumble and Elon Musk of X are credited with establishing a "free speech beachhead" that allows right-wing movements to bypass mainstream censorship. Despite financial pressure from the ADL on advertisers, these platforms continue to host deplatformed voices. The current media landscape is described as a tenuous but vital opportunity for political reform heading into the 2024 election.

rumble· chris pavlovski· elon musk· free speech· adl

09:46 I'm talking specifically about Chris Pavlovsky with Rumble introducing live streaming about a year after Elon Musk stated his intention to acquire Twitter or at least to transform it into a free speech platform. And in just the past three years, people cannot take it for granted. In just the last three years, we have kind of resumed this hot social media period, this free and open internet period that we had for a very short window at the beginning of the last decade. Consequently, just like in the last decade, which produced Donald Trump, I think this is producing a very similar and proportionate mass awakening. And I think that's why Donald Trump has been polling so well in every swing state, why he's been polling well nationally. I think that's why people, even you look at a lot of celebrities, are coming around to a more right-wing position.

10:39 So, your reinstatement on Twitter, my reinstatement on Twitter, it shows that Elon Musk has a true commitment to free speech because I think from a financial standpoint, he gains nothing by bringing us back on. You know and I know the ADL doesn't like either of us. They have used us to blackmail him with the advertisers to try to bankrupt his company. and to make the debt bad, which he used to buy Twitter. So I think he gains nothing from it financially, but this is about upholding free speech. This is the civic function. I think there's a very real political function of having free speech. And I think he's committed to the principle

11:16 I think that's been more demonstrated than anything by him bringing me back. Because I think, as you said, some of the things I've said are even a little bit more wild than maybe things you've said. So it's truly been a remarkable weekend. I think I'm very optimistic. Although I will say my final message to kind of wrap this up. I would say I'm cautiously optimistic. And people need to recognize that, as I said at the beginning of this, we are in an extremely tenuous position. We have X, we have Rumble. That's it. YouTube, Twitch, Instagram, Facebook have not changed. There is just as much censorship on those platforms as there always has been. You and I remain... Yeah, go ahead. Or more.

12:01 Or more, absolutely. And so it's really just in these two places where we're able to have a platform. So that's why we have to rally behind Musk and Chris Pavlovsky at Rumble as much as possible. Because the second that they turn those off, We're right back in the dark winter of 2021 with Joe Biden, and we're going to pick up where we left off with all that tyranny. So people need to recognize that now is the time for people to rally. I think we really have one more shot here in 2024 to get Trump in, and maybe there's a legal remedy for big tech censorship. I agree with everything you said except one point. You said this is as big as 2026. I think it's five times bigger.

CHAPTER 06 / 32 Discussion

Deep State False Flags, Christchurch and 2024 Election Risks

Concerns are raised regarding potential "black swan" events or false flags orchestrated by the deep state to demonize the political opposition before the 2024 election. Past incidents like the Christchurch shooting and the El Paso shooting are cited as events used to justify censorship. The discussion suggests that federal agents or confidential informants are often involved in the lead-up to such violent episodes.

deep state· false flag· christchurch· fbi· 2024 election

12:43 than 2016. So I think this is way bigger than 2016. The awakening is explosive. I see it on the street. I don't make it about myself, but that's the gauge I have. I go to a grocery store, instead of shaking 20 hands, I get mobbed. I go to the gym, I get mobbed. All we get is positive. I don't really get any negative anymore. That to me is indicative of this. And when you talk about you know, all we have is basically X and, you know, rumble. And then Joe Rogan kind of has his own outpost and then Tucker has his own. But for some of the social media, you're absolutely right. And the establishment knows they're losing on every front. And my concern is my next question to you is what do you think the deep state is going to do with 180 days to the election to try to demonize their opposition? We've seen the pre-programming that white supremacists

13:37 are going to blow everything up and kill everybody with no evidence of it. I see false flags. I'm really concerned about what this desperate deep state is going to do as the whole world wakes up to him. What do you think? I think you're absolutely right. I think that's the oldest playbook. That's the one that they always go to. It's the exact same thing that they did in 2018 with the Christchurch shooting or any number of the other mass shootings or terrorist incidents. Every escalation in censorship in the past six or seven years was always precipitated or preceded by some sort of mass shooting, some sort of violent extremist episode, which if you really look back and interrogate the actual timeline of events with any of those, whether it was El Paso or Christchurch or any of them,

14:26 There was always things suspicious, like there was never a federal agent very far behind, never a confidential informant very far behind. In a lot of them, it was the closest circle, like the five people that knew the shooter, one of them was a confidential informant. So I think you're absolutely right. They, just like we, understand the stakes, which is that with Twitter, with Rumble, with big tech now once again back at our fingertips, we really actually have a fighting chance at political reform in the form of Trump. We really stand a chance at defeating the legal political persecution of Trump and him being an avatar and a representative of all of us. And so I think, as you say, they recognize the stakes just as much as we do. And I think there will be some sort of

CHAPTER 07 / 32 Discussion

Anti-Semitism Awareness Act, Campus Protests and Title VI

The Anti-Semitism Awareness Act is criticized as a totalitarian measure that expands the definition of hate speech to suppress campus protests. By adopting the IHRA definition, the bill allows for Title VI civil rights claims against universities, potentially leading to Justice Department investigations. The legislation is viewed as a bipartisan effort to curtail the First Amendment under the guise of protecting students.

anti-semitism awareness act· congress· title vi· columbia university· ucla

15:10 extremely unpredictable black swan type event. And you look at the way that they're seeding that idea on television all the time, you're right, it is gonna be some kind of false flag, it is gonna be some kind of violent extremism to vilify the right wing and more than that, to justify a clamp down on free speech. And I saw a clip from your show this week, you've already been talking about this and hitting this all the time. It's this latest bill that they're passing in Congress. They're now using the campus protests, which are now spreading from coast to coast. Whatever you think about the protests themselves, I think we both agree this new bill that has been introduced is a totalitarian anti-free speech takeover. They introduced the bill and they say now they're going to expand the definition of hate speech, specifically anti-Semitism, so that particular people can launch Title VI

16:04 civil rights claims against the schools. And this is just the beginning. This is always how it starts. And I think you actually hit the note exactly right. Maybe it was a week, two weeks ago, you said that they're mobilizing the left on the campuses and increasingly even in the city streets. They're mobilizing the right to meet them on the campus and in the city streets as well. And this is creating the perfect condition, the perfect powder keg for a kind of one of these incidents where a bullet's gonna go, there's gonna be some kind of violent episode, you know that's always how it starts. And just like now, how they're using the Columbia protest and UCLA and everywhere else, they're using that to justify.

16:46 this anti-Semitism Awareness Act, they may use some kind of future violent confrontation, some kind of violent episode at one of these demonstrations to justify even further crackdowns. And I think the most important point is that Twitter is in an extremely tenuous position. I don't think people realize that. It was very difficult for Elon Musk to keep the lights on over there at Twitter with the kind of pressure that the ADL was bringing on their advertisers and which comes in many forms, not just even from the advertisers. So it wouldn't take much for Congress to go in and pass a law. And you know as well as anybody that Republicans will be just as compliant in that as the Democrats.

CHAPTER 08 / 32 Discussion

Governor Whitmer Kidnapping Plot, FBI Entrapment Claims

The plot to kidnap Governor Gretchen Whitmer is characterized as a model for FBI entrapment, alleging that a majority of the participants were federal agents or informants. This incident is used to illustrate how the deep state creates narratives of domestic extremism. The discussion emphasizes the need for the public to remain focused on potential government-led provocations.

gretchen whitmer· fbi· entrapment· michigan· kidnapping plot

17:29 Republicans and Democrats obediently both bipartisanly supported this new bill that expands the definition of hate speech. Republicans are... Yeah, go ahead. And Nick, I want to go through that bill with you. because there's absolutely no doubt that's happening. But you mentioned, I mentioned false flags, you talked about it. The Governor Whitmer kidnapping plot, two trials where they were innocent, another third trial they finally got people convicted. About of 24 people, like what was it, 20 were FBI agents setting this up. So I think that's really going to be the model here. And that's where I've been. I'm not supporting Israel's carpet bombing. I also don't support Biden giving money to Hamas. And then the left funding, as you can see, they're trying to create this clash of civilizations that we're now witnessing. And I want to derail that and

18:20 Trump's imperfect, but way better than Biden, obviously, and get him into office. So pulling back from this, we can say, is Elon Musk for real or is he an opportunist? I tend to think he's for real overall. He's got a bunch of kids, he's not perfect, but he sees also that the wind's blowing in our direction. So it's not that he's even opportunist, he's already on our side, but now he thinks the time is ripe to take these people on. He's doubled the engagement, on ex-former Lee Twitter. It's winning. The people are awakening. I mean, we're really at that magic moment right now. That's why people have got to be so concerned about what the deep state is going to do next. That's why we're trying to get everybody as focused as possible on that.

CHAPTER 09 / 32 Discussion

Javier Milei, Argentina Lithium and Elon Musk Interests

The election of Javier Milei in Argentina is linked to the strategic interests of Elon Musk regarding the country's massive lithium reserves. Milei's decision to move Argentina away from the BRICS alliance and toward the United States is seen as beneficial for the electric vehicle battery industry. This geopolitical shift is presented as a possible opportunistic motive behind Musk's acquisition of X.

javier milei· argentina· lithium· brics· elon musk

19:03 Absolutely. And it is, I think, an interesting question whether Elon Musk is an opportunist or if he's some kind of ideologue. Ultimately, though, that we have the free speech platform, at least in the short term, is really the only thing that matters. I could see that there might be some explanations for how this could be a good opportunity for Elon Musk. And I'll elaborate on one in particular. I thought it was very interesting the role that Twitter or X played in the recent Argentine election. As you know, Javier Mele was recently elected just last fall in Argentina. And it was before Javier Mele was elected that Argentina was going to accede to the BRICS alliance, the Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa alliance, along with five or six other states. I think Egypt, the Emirates, Iran were a few of them.

19:57 And Javier Mele getting into office with the conspicuous intervention of X is what allowed Javier Mele to cancel that accession of Argentina to BRICS. And recently, Elon Musk met with Javier Mele at one of these think tank summits. And the connection would be in lithium. Argentina has the largest unexploited lithium reserves in the world. It sits in the middle of the lithium triangle with Bolivia and Chile, although Argentina has the most by far and they're not exploited at all. Now that Javier Mele is in charge, he's a neoliberal free market guy, and I think a lot of people agree with that. I mean, I'm a free market guy also. I believe in capitalism. But Javier Mele is now realigning Argentina away from China, away from Russia, away from Brazil, back towards the United States. And just as Argentina goes with the United States, so goes their lithium reserves.

20:56 Of course, what is lithium used in? It's one of the most critical resources in the world. Batteries. Batteries, lithium ion batteries that will be vital for the energy transition, the global green energy transition away from combustion-based car engines to lithium ion electric car battery-based systems. And so Elon Musk, well, he's in the business of batteries. He's in the business of electric lithium ion battery cars. Now that Javier Mele is giving the United States the exclusive access to the lithium, and if you look at some of the particular companies, you might wonder, did X play a role in Javier Mele's election last fall? And then wouldn't that suggest that there might be some sort of opportunistic angle for Elon purchasing X? I think there's a lot of credibility to that idea. With that being said, however,

CHAPTER 10 / 32 Discussion

Right-Wing Media Strategy, Demographics and Cultural Suicide

Access to mass media platforms is described as essential for the survival of right-wing political movements, as deplatforming effectively removes a group from the political arena. A demographic shift is predicted, where conservative families having more children will eventually inherit the country while the left commits "cultural suicide." Figures like Andrew Tate and Tucker Carlson are cited as influential in raising a new generation of patriots.

andrew tate· tucker carlson· demographics· mass media· right-wing

21:48 You and I coming back onto the platform and using that to get Donald Trump elected, using that to raise awareness about the things that are going on in the world, as you said earlier, about globalism, about medical tyranny, about transhumanism, I think it's a net positive regardless. I think it can't be said enough. It really, truly can't be overstated what that does for the right wing. without big tech, without access to the billions of active users that are on all the combined social media. We're just not, we're not playing the same game as the left. We're not playing in the same arena. We're not playing the same sport. And so there's this old myth, I'm sure you've heard it a million times. They say, well, if you get banned on social media, it actually helps you out because it brings more attention to your cause. You and I both know that is true to a very limited extent.

22:36 But on net, it is not real. If right-wing people cannot have access to the latest technology of mass media, we are effectively not in politics. If you can't use mass media to raise money, promulgate your ideas, advocate for your candidates, you You are not playing the same sport as the left in politics. So, as always with everything, when these big moves are happening with billionaires and foreign states and tech companies, there's always intelligence agencies behind it. There's always a national security prerogative. It's always interest-based. Our job is to surf on those waves. Our job

23:14 as citizen journalists and patriots is to surf on those big trends and really look at the big picture in the long term. You know, there are things that are going to be going on in the next election and with the next Congress, but there's an entire generation of young people that are being raised by Alex Jones and Nick Fuentes and Andrew Tate and Tucker Carlson and people that are going to love humanity and love America and love freedom and love Christianity. And that's the kind of game that we need to be playing. People having kids now, they're going to have a lot of kids that will grow up in the future. And they're going to be the ones that are inheriting America, as opposed to left-wing people that are not having kids. And then their genetic line dies out, and I think they won't even be in the game in another generation. They're committing cultural suicide and physical suicide. Nick Fuentes is our guest. I've got 100 questions. I'm sure he's got 100 points he wants to make. We'll take a quick break.

CHAPTER 11 / 32 Discussion

USS Liberty, 9-11 and Israeli Influence Criticism

The host defends his record of exposing Israeli military actions, citing past films produced about the USS Liberty and the 9-11 attacks. While acknowledging the "Zionist death grip" on certain aspects of American policy, the host argues for a "Big Tent" approach that focuses on opposing global government rather than targeting specific ethnic groups. This segment addresses internal right-wing criticisms regarding the intensity of opposition to Israel.

uss liberty· israel· 9-11· greg reese· zionism

26:28 I hired Gregory's five years ago. I respect Gregory's. He does whatever he wants, but I've made two films on the USS Liberty and bombs and the Israelis and 9-11 that I produced and made. And I'm not trying to like this old man state because I was on air unlike most people I was on air when I was 20 like you. So I respect somebody when they're 20 on air and now you're 25, 26. I don't look at it like, oh, hey, sonny boy, get off my block. I'm the old man around here, I'm 50 years old. The point is when you were literally in diapers, I was exposing the U.S.S. Liberty and all this, and I get it. I don't talk about it constantly because to me it's old news, but I know Israel does evil stuff. I know Israel has nuclear weapons. I know Israel's been involved in a bunch of stuff. I understand all that. So it's not about scoring points here. It's that I believe that if I just cover topics and issues

27:22 I can get everybody to go for them, but if we make it about a certain group or another group, then we lose people. I just believe that if I build it, they will come. I believe that if I oppose global government and oppose central bank digital currencies and oppose transgenderism and oppose their whatever the policies of whoever runs it, the Rothschilds, people like that, that we will beat them with the Big Ten. And I'm not saying your way of doing things, I get the few jokes you make, the few things out of context. It's like Sandy Hook, barely ever talked about it and you made that point on the spaces and they make this whole, that's my identity and I did all this and I peed on kids' graves. I get what's been done to you. All I'm saying is, is that before we get into the anti-Semitism bill,

28:03 that it's not just me, it's dozens of congressmen and women, including Democrats, that have come out and said this ends free speech, it bans the New Testament. It does. I already covered it for three, four days. I guess I've got the bill. And I love how when I was on Spaces with you, that's when I blew up. People thought I already had to leave. I thought I got mad at you. I'm like going, hey, this bill literally bans the New Testament and this bill, you know, gives this foreign multinational Israeli NGO control over the definition for the Justice Department. This guy goes, shut up, you're a liar, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm just like, in an hour gone by, I had to go because it was my daughter's birthday. But I was in agreeance with you about that because I can read the bill. But it's not just Alex Jones or Nick Fuentes, it's Chip Roy, you know, it's Gary, it's Jared Nadler.

CHAPTER 12 / 32 Discussion

European Free Speech Crackdowns, HR 6090 and Bible Bans

Legislative actions in Germany, Canada, and the Netherlands are cited as examples of a global crackdown on speech criticizing migration or religious groups. In the United States, bill HR 6090 is described as the "murder of the First Amendment" because it allows a UN-linked NGO to define anti-Semitism for the Justice Department. Critics argue the bill could lead to the prosecution of individuals for quoting the New Testament.

hr 6090· germany· canada· first amendment· hate speech

28:54 So, and it also fits into all this. Let me give people an overhead shot here. This is just what I've got in the stack today. In Germany, in the Netherlands, in France, they're arresting members of their parliaments and Congress that quote government numbers that 80% of the rapes are Muslims. Okay, I'm not against Muslims. I'm just saying, I'm also, you know, pointing that out. Elon Musk put that out. AFD politician convicted for warning about gang rapes. Canada imposed to imprison anyone who ever posted hate speech online that criticizes any group and the ADL's involved in that. So it just goes on from there and then I've got the bill HR 6090 that anybody can read.

29:37 This is the murder of the First Amendment. It's so bad I can't even believe it. And then it lets this group, this International Holocaust Remembrance UNNGO, define what it is and says it's an open definition. So we can talk about this right now. All I'm saying is I just oppose what's happening. Instead of giving it the energy and kind of getting on its level. So that's where I'm at. And then I sit there and you're like, oh, Elon's greater. You know, you're on a show where people disagree with you. Oh, they're great for the free speech. But me, I'm like, 90% alignable what you're doing. And then I'm in a special category, though, to be judged that I'm not, you know,

30:16 a purist, everybody has their own purist view, but I am a purist from my perspective. Nobody's telling me under the table what to do. I'm not getting programming from a satellite in orbit or something. I really try to morally make the best decisions about having a free open society. So I gave you the floor earlier, we're gonna skip this break coming up. I just talked six, seven minutes. I'm gonna give you the floor for another 10 minutes to talk about this. And if you want, we can go through the bill because the denial about what is in this bill, like, oh, you're denying Ivermectin worked or denying any of this. It's cut and dry. It's so dangerous. And

30:53 And it does make me get really pissed at Israel and their leaders because this is Israel openly through the Congress, bipartisanly, literally saying we're gonna kick people out of college and we're gonna indict people for quoting the Bible. And it's in there and it says it. So this is a lie in the sand, Nick. I absolutely agree with you. I think this is one of the things where we're 100% aligned. And, you know, we do have kind of a playful back and forth on some of these things, but it's I think it's good. And I think you're right. We both absolutely agree on total free speech. And I think you recognize a lot of the things that Israel does that's wrong. And I do, too. And I think that's why nobody can say that you're getting

CHAPTER 13 / 32 Discussion

IHRA Definition, Campus Monitors and Middle East Context

The deployment of "anti-Semitism monitors" to universities is discussed as a method of surveillance intended to shut down anti-Israel protests. The IHRA definition is being integrated into Department of Education policy, which critics claim will treat standard political rhetoric as a civil rights violation. This legal shift is framed within the context of the ongoing conflict in Gaza and the recent decapitation of leadership at Harvard and UPenn.

ihra· department of education· harvard· upenn· middle east

30:16 a purist, everybody has their own purist view, but I am a purist from my perspective. Nobody's telling me under the table what to do. I'm not getting programming from a satellite in orbit or something. I really try to morally make the best decisions about having a free open society. So I gave you the floor earlier, we're gonna skip this break coming up. I just talked six, seven minutes. I'm gonna give you the floor for another 10 minutes to talk about this. And if you want, we can go through the bill because the denial about what is in this bill, like, oh, you're denying Ivermectin worked or denying any of this. It's cut and dry. It's so dangerous. And

30:53 And it does make me get really pissed at Israel and their leaders because this is Israel openly through the Congress, bipartisanly, literally saying we're gonna kick people out of college and we're gonna indict people for quoting the Bible. And it's in there and it says it. So this is a lie in the sand, Nick. I absolutely agree with you. I think this is one of the things where we're 100% aligned. And, you know, we do have kind of a playful back and forth on some of these things, but it's I think it's good. And I think you're right. We both absolutely agree on total free speech. And I think you recognize a lot of the things that Israel does that's wrong. And I do, too. And I think that's why nobody can say that you're getting

31:33 Jewish space laser signals or something that are telling you what to do. But this bill, I think it's very interesting actually precisely what's in it. Because I've seen a lot of people talk about the bill and the way that they frame it, they say that the bill outlaws anti-Semitism. And that's not, and you pointed this out on your show, which I appreciate it because you do the research and I think you deliver the real information. The bill specifically says, as you said, that it adopts the open definition of the IHRA specifically for the Department of Education. And so what that means is that a student can file a Title VI civil rights complaint using that definition

32:13 And that will define what a civil rights violation might be. So for example, if they go to University of Columbia, or UCLA, or one of these universities where these protests are taking place, and a Jewish student hears rhetoric like, from the river to the sea, or really generally any anti-Israel rhetoric, or as you said, even things in the New Testament. If those things are said or heard on campus by a Jewish student, according to the IHRA definition, that is antisemitism. And using the IHRA definition to define civil rights

32:49 That means then that the particular school under the university, rather under the Department of Education would be subject to some kind of Justice Department investigation. And so I think that what the bill is specifically designed to do is to go after the schools so that the schools shut down the protests. But this isn't the only bill. It comes with a suite of bills, specifically another bill. It's a pair. There is the Anti-Semitism Awareness Act, which defines anti-Semitism for Title VI. There's another separate bill. which I don't think got as much attention, which says that anti-Semitism monitors will be deployed to universities on request by students. I don't actually know the particular mechanism for this. But you could see how those two bills work hand in glove. Congress passed a bill that says monitors to the campus to listen and observe and look out for anti-Semitism. The second bill defines

33:47 anti-semitism or I should say ties the definition of anti-semitism to the IHRA definition for Title 6 enforcement. They're putting out the scouts, they're putting out the spies, and then the Anti-Semitism Awareness Act is the teeth. That's the enforcement. And it's meant to shut down the protests. Of course, why this really matters for people like you and me and for the people that watch your show and my show is the bigger context of what's happening in the Middle East. Let's not forget that just a few weeks ago- Hold on, I want to get there, Nick, and I'm going to give you the floor again, but let's just walk back here a little bit. It's worse than what you're saying.

CHAPTER 14 / 32 Discussion

State-Level Anti-BDS Laws, South Dakota and Texas

The codification of IHRA definitions into state law in over 35 states, including Texas and Florida, is identified as a threat to American sovereignty. These laws often require state contractors to sign oaths promising not to participate in the Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions (BDS) movement against Israel. The discussion characterizes these measures as foreign subversion of the U.S. criminal code.

bds· south dakota· texas· florida· sovereignty

34:25 Because chip Roy said this lawyers have looked at it. I can read it. It's clear. It gives a UN NGO Israeli controlled control control over Title VI for the reporting and then trains the federal government on what is legal or illegal and says things like Jews killed Jesus. Well, whether that's true or not, it's in the Bible and the Roman history says that, I'm not even attacking Jews, whether they said the moon is made of cheese or Jews didn't kill Jesus or Jews, you know, or Papa Smurf, whatever it is, we should all be allowed to say it. And so it's not and I think I'm not saying you're wrong. I just think you're only covering one sector. This is a lot bigger than these Soros communist funded deals to create this clash. This is about the National Security Directive of Biden in June of 2021 where he said white supremacy is the number one threat. He defines it against open borders, against lockdowns, against forced shots, against

35:19 election fraud. So we're being defined as white people and as populist as bad. We do have to respond to that at that level. So this is quite frankly, I want you to elaborate on this far worse than what I think you were just saying. I mean, this bill is unprecedented. A foreign group, I mean, we talk about the UN has this UN treaty and it gives the countries the power for total tyranny. And Tedros says, well, don't worry. Your countries will have the power, but it's through the UN. They cede power to the UN, it gives the power back to them through treaty. What I'm saying is this is a treaty with a UN-Israeli NGO criminally controlling the definitions of the Justice Department. This is an act of war. This is insane. I'm sorry to interrupt. Go ahead.

36:05 No, I absolutely agree. It is absolutely un-American and it is totally outrageous and it should be illegal. What this represents is foreign subversion. Unfortunately, I would say it's not totally unprecedented because this same IHRA definition of anti-Semitism has already been codified into state law in I think 35 or 36 states. They just did it in South Dakota. Florida, Texas, it's shameful. Absolutely. And they have applied it on college campuses, specifically in Florida. And they've also forced certain contractors for state government in states like Texas to sign an oath

36:43 that they won't support things like BDS, Boycott, Divest and Sanction against Israel. So sadly, and you're right, it speaks to the enormity of the problem. It's an absolutely massive problem. It's an attack on the Constitution. It's an attack on national sovereignty. And it's coming, as you said, from one of these foreign NGOs waged against our people and against our civil rights. And you're right also, and I think this is important, It doesn't matter what you believe about the material statements that are considered anti-Semitism under the law, which like you said would include the gospel, which says that again, according to some readings, they'll say it's Jews killed Jesus or some other thing. It doesn't matter what you think about that material statement or everything else is covered under the definition.

CHAPTER 15 / 32 Discussion

Benjamin Netanyahu, ICC Arrest Warrants and American Sovereignty

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is criticized for his "arrogant" demands that world leaders block potential ICC arrest warrants against Israeli officials. The discussion compares Netanyahu's influence over the U.S. Congress to that of a foreign head of state receiving dozens of standing ovations. The host argues that no other country, including China or Russia, would be permitted such level of interference in American domestic law.

benjamin netanyahu· icc· xi jinping· sovereignty· congress

37:29 What matters is that this is a foreign nonprofit backed by a foreign government, backed by supranational institutions coming into America, coming into state, local and federal government and saying, we're now going to define your criminal code and we're now going to circumscribe what Americans are allowed to say in the United States. And I think that this has to become one of the big issues of our time. I don't know. It is. You also got the UN taking control of health care. So what I'm saying is, the UN is not going to come in blue helmets. It's going to come with open borders and NGOs. Let me play you the newest clip today that John Bowne put out. I won't play the whole six minute report. It's hit band on video. It's Nympho Wars. It starts with Netanyahu days ago arrogantly saying he expects us to click our heels

38:17 I don't care if the British said this or the French or the Chinese. I literally don't hate the Jews or Israel, but I'm hating what's going on with their leader. And he's literally saying, I expect you, just like he did two weeks ago and now they're passing laws with the protest, I expect you to get up here and to stop us being indicted for the carpet bombing with Lavender and the AI murder machine. Here's just the first 20 seconds of the report. is contemplating issuing arrest warrants against senior Israeli government and military officials as war criminals. Israel expects the leaders of the free world to stand firmly against the ICC's outrageous assault on Israel's inherent right of self-defense. We expect them to use all the means at their disposal

39:06 to stop this dangerous move. My administration with our second gentleman's leadership has launched our nation's first national security strategy to counter anti-Semitism. Let's stop there. They all, they all, he says jump. They say, oh hi. This is humiliating. Imagine if Xi Jinping said, I expect you to pass laws for us. The arrogance of this. It's totally arrogant, and we would not tolerate or accept it from any other country. And it's not the first time. Netanyahu would stroll into our country, and he would speak before a joint session of Congress. And you could go—I mean, I think they did a series of speeches over the years. And depending on the year, he would go in, and there would be dozens of standing ovations, like half the runtime of the speech.

39:49 For Bibi Netanyahu, a foreign head of state, in front of a joint session of Congress would be 30, 40 standing ovations taking up 40 minutes of the entire speech. As you said, it is humiliating, it is emasculating, and it's also a principle that is universally applied. It's not singling out a particular country. It's talking about any country. As you say, if it was Xi Jinping, if this was the president of Iran, if this was Putin, if this was the president of France, we would say exactly the same thing. What this really is is a sovereignty movement. It's about American sovereignty, American independence, Americans from America, born in America for America, not supranational government, not non-partisan.

CHAPTER 16 / 32 Discussion

Dual Loyalty Allegations, IDF Service and Global Sentiment

The discussion touches on the controversial topic of dual loyalty, noting that some members of Congress have worn Israeli military uniforms. While a majority of the Israeli public reportedly opposes Netanyahu, his government is accused of using the October 7th attacks to maintain power. Global sentiment is described as turning against Israel due to the high-tech nature of the conflict in Gaza.

idf· dual loyalty· netanyahu· gaza· public opinion

40:34 And let me back you up, because I've got the bill HR 6090. Here is the definition from the group that they say is in charge. It says if you question the loyalty of any Jews in America, it's right here, and say that they're for Israel. Well, we have a bunch of members of Congress wear Israeli uniforms there and admit that they have loyalty to that. So they're trying to outlaw stating fact? I mean, I'm just, I'm tired of this. I'm with you. I am absolutely with you because you're right. These are empirical facts. It's not like these are subjective opinions. It's not even like it's rhetoric. As you say, to question the loyalty of a Jewish person and whether they have some allegiance to Israel

41:16 As you and I know, I think as everyone knows, yes, Jews have some ties, not all of them, but many Jews have ties to their homeland. And many of them wear the uniform. Many of them make an aliyah, they will travel to the country and they'll take up arms in the IDF. So these are facts, these are factual statements. And yet under this definition from a foreign nonprofit, they say that that qualifies as a civil rights violation in the Department of Education. And of course, the universities is where you're supposed to have these conversations. Where else in the United States of America is it more appropriate to have an intellectual political discussion about these matters than a university campus? That's where it's being attacked by these groups at the department of education. And we do have the Islamists attacking Jews and not letting them in and that's all wrong. We've talked a lot about that. I'm against both things that are going on. It's like if there's two car wrecks, I'm against both of them. I don't hate any of these people, but what do you think

42:11 Israel is like 70% is against Netanyahu. He used October 7th to stay in power. So I don't want to say it's one monolithic, you know, power group there, but the whole world is turning against Israel right now. What do you think is going to come out of that? Well, it's a very big problem for them. And I think that's why Netanyahu has become so unpopular. It remains to be seen. I mean, it's very possible that they will throw him out and attempt to throw out all of that bad baggage with him. On the other hand, I think that Israel has been putting itself in this position for a long time. I think they put themselves in that position with the Muslim world for generations. If you read bin Laden's letter to America, if you read the World Trade Center bomber, his letter and justification for it, I mean, they blame America's support for Israel on these attacks.

CHAPTER 17 / 32 Discussion

Rafah Invasion, Hamas Funding and October 7th Stand-Down

The invasion of Rafah is described as a move by Netanyahu to stay in power despite international condemnation and a potential break in his governing coalition. Claims are made that the Likud party historically supported and funded Hamas to divide Palestinian leadership. Furthermore, the slow response to the October 7th attacks is characterized as a suspicious "stand-down" that benefited the Israeli government's long-term goals.

rafah· hamas· qatar· likud party· gaza

42:59 So I think it's a horrible situation and this is where I think the Zionists and Israelis would do well to heed the warning of people like me and you. When we criticize these things- But Nick, Nick, interrupt. They're not. They're rolling into Rafa right now. We'll put the night vision up. It's nighttime there. What do you make of this? The invasion in Rafa, it's happening in defiance of the entire world. This is in defiance of the United States, it's in defiance of all their Arab, even their allied neighbors like Jordan. Yeah, because it's not seven Arab nations ganged up on them, then we support Israel. I get that. This is Israel with high-tech weapons ganging up on women and children. That's absolutely right. I mean, you could say theoretically that you could support an operation or a campaign, but the Gaza Strip is very small. It's a small population. Half the population, more than half, are legal minors under the age of 18. They've been starving them, bombing them, depriving them of medical equipment, tell them to evacuate and then

43:54 bomb them while evacuating, bombing them when they get to where they were supposed to evacuate to. And this is where the Biden administration comes in and says, look, we're not against the operation. We're not saying you don't have a right to defend yourself or conduct a foreign policy, but do it with some laws of war. or basic principles, ethics of war in mind. And we have now conditioned the military aid upon this. It seems that Joe Biden is now delaying some of the shipments of bombs to Israel out of fear that they're going to use this in Rafa. But this is really about Netanyahu's quest to stay in power. And I think everyone in Israel even knows that. Netanyahu knows that when the war is over, he's out. He also knows that if he doesn't go into Rafa, his governing coalition breaks apart because it's these two extremists

44:39 his finance minister, his national security minister. They're the ones that are pressing him to do this. If he doesn't go forward with it, they're not going to support him. He loses the prime minister. And that's why he's the main suspect in the stand down. We know the standout happened October 7th. And I think Iran's involved in this. This is disgusting. Iran gets more power out of the attacks. They do these missile attacks against each other. It's all just posturing. Absolutely, yes. Well, and people would do well to analyze the age-old question, who benefits? When you look at something like October 7th, and you hate to say that, you hate to impugn the motives of a person like that, but the evidence is there. They were aware up to a year or two prior to October 7th that Hamas was plotting an attack exactly like the one they carried out on October 7th.

45:26 all came out in October and November of last year. They even witnessed Hamas preparing and training for that specific type of attack. It took them far more hours than it should have for them to respond on the day of. And there was also, I saw recently on X, a report that went viral of Netanyahu asking Qatar to provide more money from Hamas. That's the dirty little secret. That's at the core of all of this, which is that these maximalists, these Likud party types like Netanyahu, they support Hamas. They fund Hamas. They want Hamas to get bigger because it's like Star Wars. And that's my next point, is that Israel in the 70s founded Hamas. That's not debated.

CHAPTER 18 / 32 Discussion

Follow Nick Fuentes on Rumble

Nick Fuentes directs listeners to his Rumble channel, where he broadcasts a daily show. He emphasizes the importance of following him on that platform to access his nightly commentary and live streams. The segment concludes with a transition to the final hour of the broadcast.

rumble· nick fuentes· live stream· daily show· social media

46:07 And that's what I get attacked like, oh, you're pro-Muslim or you're pro-Israel. No, I'm saying whether you're the Muslims or the average Jew, they're not in control of the government. The government's working on the top to do this. Nick, that's my point. Even with the leftist communists leading the Muslims, I'm against the Palestinians being murdered. But I also see the Democratic Party is literally funding this as the pretext for civil unrest ahead of Trump's election. I think there is a lot of truth to that and you're right. I mean, it is the government in Israel. Of course, you can't blame millions of people for the actions of the state over there, just like you can't blame the millions of Americans for the actions of the state or the power players over here. But what's important to consider is those, as we just talked about even on the last segment about Musk and Malay, it's always important to follow the money and it's always important to ask who benefits from particular things and to interrogate those questions. I think that

46:59 What is so important about your show against contra, things like Fox News, and not to shade other conservatives, but contra other sources, is that it is important for right-wing people to do the research. Every day you got a stack of papers on your desk, you're reading international news, you're reading between the lines. Conservatives have to get better at this because I think we've been put in a very unfortunate position because we have allowed ourselves to be tricked by these kind of facile media narratives from fake conservatives for generations. It's only when you actually follow the money and follow who benefits in particular, which individuals, firms, governments, who benefits from certain things. And in the case of this Hamas invasion on October 7th,

47:43 The one way to look at that is that it's a horrible catastrophe, and it was. What is equally true is that it has served as the pretext for a very aggressive, very ambitious campaign in Gaza, which it seems fulfills a long-held goal and ambition by Netanyahu and his party, not just for him politically, but also for him and their party ideologically and their plans for zero-carbon energy. Sure, they stand to gain. We're going to start the next and final hour, but you were telling me off-air the best place to go is your rumble. How do people sign up and follow you on Rumble? Rumble.com slash NickJFuentes. And as you said, I do a daily show. So I'd appreciate if everybody followed me there because I'm doing this sort of stuff every night. And it's live there right now. That's right. We're live streaming it here. I love it. All right. We'll be right back with Nick Fuentes straight ahead. Hour number three. I'm going to hear what he wants to talk about next. I've asked a bunch of questions. We're going to ask him what he wants to hit next.

CHAPTER 19 / 32 Discussion

Iran-Israel Direct Conflict, World War III and Nuclear Ambitions

The shadow war between Iran and Israel has transitioned into direct hostilities following the bombing of the Iranian embassy in Damascus and subsequent retaliatory strikes. Israel's primary strategic goal is identified as the destruction of Iran's nuclear weapons program. This escalation is framed as a significant step toward a wider regional conflict that could draw in the United States.

iran· israel· damascus· nuclear weapons· hezbollah

48:40 the Huskers. We're back in two minutes. Follow us and relax shows. All right. Thank you. Point is our guest. I'm your host Alex Jones and to the most controversial people in the world here on air together right now. Some stations don't care. This first five minutes 300 plus dude in five minutes, Nick. I've asked a lot of the questions the first hour in this hour. Anything you want to talk about? What's front and center for you? What's front and center for me, what I've been talking so much about on my show and on X, and lately on X and before that on Telegram, is I think that now more than ever the time is to talk about World War III and the threat that that poses right now with Iran and Hezbollah. I think that's probably the least covered thing, at least particularly in this moment, as we talked about in the last hour.

49:31 The Rafah invasion has begun. The tanks and troops are rolling in, they're bombing. And I think now nobody's talking about the threat of this war escalating and widening into a full-on regional conflict. And I think that what you're seeing across the country, I think the tie-in, because we talked about some angles of the anti-Semitism bill, and I think we hit the big picture. But I think what is not being talked about enough is that there is a very concerted effort to silence anybody that is talking about what's going on over there and the risk of this war spiraling out of control. And we talked about the Anti-Semitism Awareness Act. We talked about the Anti-Semitism Monitors.

50:10 But that is just the latest episode in what has been going on at college campuses. Before that, they went after the presidents of Harvard and UPenn, Claudine Gay and I think it's Eliza McGill over there at University of Pennsylvania. And that was in October, November, December, and January, where they decapitated the administration at those schools. Now, they're going after the protesters with these dual laws. The Title VI redefinition of antisemitism, the deployment of the monitors. And I think it's all related to what we're seeing now in Rafa.

50:46 And what I try to touch on in the last segment, we took it a little bit of a different direction, but this is all framed in the context of what happened with Iran a few weeks ago, which is that Israel bombed the Iranian embassy in Damascus, Syria, killing seven Iranian generals. And then as everybody saw, within two or three weeks, Iran retaliated by sending hundreds of drones, cruise missiles, ballistic missiles at Israel. That is the event that cleared the way for the $26 billion aid package in Congress to clear and for that money then to go to Israel. I think, though, the significance was lost on a lot of people, which is that was the first time in the history of planet Earth when the Islamic Republic of Iran and the state of Israel engaged in open, direct hostilities. When Israelis bombed Iranian soil effectively by bombing an embassy,

51:42 And Iran retaliated by bombing Israel from Iran. And so what was for decades a shadow war between those two states, which consisted in proxy war, assassinations, industrial or military sabotage, has now become direct missile and drone strikes between the two countries. And I think that when you consider the entire thing, not just in light of what has happened since October 7th, but even before that, even if you go back decades to the clean break memo in the 1990s, The prize for Iran, or rather for Israel, is Iran's nuclear weapons program. It's that nuclear complex in five or six cities in Iran. And I think that Israel's ambitions don't stop with Rafa, and they don't stop with Gaza. What they said after the October 7 attack is they want to completely redefine the geopolitical balance of power in the region forever.

52:40 They don't accomplish that just by annexing Gaza or just by securing military control over Gaza. They're doing that by, as many of their more radical members in the government have said, diminishing Hezbollah in south Lebanon and by bombing Iran's nuclear program directly, which is what they sort of hinted at when they launched a minor drone attack on the airport in Isfahan, which is part of Iran's nuclear complex. So I think We're in a very dangerous game, and this is where I think your analysis is so sorely needed. It's dialectic. It's about being forced into a paradoxical situation or catch-22 where there are no good options. Where on the one hand, we have this mass mobilization on the campuses, leftists and right-wingers fighting. Next day there, we're back in one minute. Explain dialectics when we come back.

CHAPTER 20 / 32 Discussion

Hegelian Dialectic, Campus Protests and War with Iran

The campus protests are analyzed through the lens of the Hegelian dialectic, where mass mobilization is used to create a "catch-22" for the government. While the protests may slow down American support for a war with Iran, they also provide a pretext for a crackdown on the First Amendment. The discussion warns that these demonstrations could be transformed into a "BLM-style" revolution if Trump wins in 2024.

hegelian dialectic· iran· blm· antifa· first amendment

53:35 All right, if you're just joining us, the world is going to a major period of upheaval and crisis. The old financial system is going down. The globalists are trying to flex their muscles, but they're in deep trouble. And Nick Fuentes, one of the most sensitive people in the world, was just getting into Iran and Israel and the strikes against each other and the Hegelian dialectic, where Israel and the US and Iran aren't perfectly synced, but they all get power out of a war. You got cut off explaining the Hegelian dialectic. That's right. So I was talking about this situation where on the one hand we have never been at a greater risk of being drawn into a war with Iran. And that was always the concern when we after 9-11 when we embarked on the series of foreign adventures in the Middle East there were really three primary targets and they were Iraq,

54:28 Syria and Iran. We know what happened to Iraq. Saddam Hussein got overthrown in a major 20-year ground war. Syria was destabilized by this all-in proxy conflict between 100 different countries over a period of 10 years. And that has left in this decade Iran and what is to be done about one of the great powers in the Middle East that still does not accept or seek to normalize relations with Israel, and which is also developing what appears to be a civilian cover for a nuclear program and for a missile program in the form of nuclear energy and space and rockets.

55:02 And so on the one hand, you have this dynamic that with what's going on, this conflagration over there in Gaza, we are at a very high risk of being drawn into hostilities with Iran directly, as evidenced by the recent tit-for-tat strikes. At the same time, there is a mass mobilization on campuses to attempt to retard this. And as you say, the people that are deploying to the campuses, These people don't love America, they're leftists. A lot of them are going on the campuses really for the wrong reasons. I mean, they're with the campus or rather they're with Palestine, not because they're sympathetic even for the humanitarian cause. A lot of them are just radical liberationists. And so we're not ideologically aligned at all. And yet deploying all those people to the campuses may retard America's support for a war with Iran.

55:54 So there's these two things going on. War with Iran, mass mobilization on the campuses. The mass mobilization on the campuses, if it gets out of control, as we talked about in a previous segment, could create a false flag scenario that could bring down Trump and indict patriots and undo the free speech beach hat. At the same time, the campus protests are the only thing slowing down America's support or its reluctant drawing into a war with Iran. So we're in this impossible situation where You shut down the protests, maybe you get a war with Iran. You prevent a war with Iran by

CHAPTER 21 / 32 Discussion

Ukraine Aid, Border Wall Funding and National Decline

A $95 billion foreign aid package for Ukraine, Israel, and Taiwan is contrasted with the $17 billion requested by Donald Trump for a border wall. The discussion highlights the perceived decline of American cities and infrastructure while billions are sent overseas. The host and guest agree that the country is "on fumes" and that the current political leadership is prioritizing foreign interests over national security.

ukraine· taiwan· border wall· national security· aid package

56:33 going to the protesters and capitulating, but then you get this flashpoint for an all-out war in America. And so there's this very, very slim, narrow opportunity where we have to thread the needle, where on the one hand, we can't let the protests turn into BLM. We can't have them mobilizing in the event that Trump wins for some kind of revolution. We saw a little bit of that in 2016 with Antifa. At the same time, we also can't be drawn into a war with Iran. So this is why it's very important for patriots and for America first types to be aware of all the facts. I feel like it's sort of the same energy of Star Wars. I know you and I are both fond of Revenge of the Sith, where they're kind of playing both sides in a way where they achieve their ultimate goal. And I see, for example, they're characterizing all these protesters as pro-Hamas, pro-terrorist,

57:27 The cops are going in and cleaning them up. And I see a lot of right-wing people cheering that on and celebrating it. And I understand why. The protesters are not friendly to us. They're hard, as I said, they're hardcore leftists, communists. They're tearing down the American flag. At the same time, look at the cost of bringing down the protests. It's an attack on the First Amendment with the Anti-Semitism Awareness Act. It's potentially clearing the protests so that there will be no opposition to America's support for Israel if they try to provoke a war with Iran. Well, exactly. And then it sets the precedent for everybody to lose their free speech.

58:04 Precisely. And for even people like you and I to criticize what's going on over there or criticize anything. So I guess the message to America First patriots is to be very keenly aware of the games that are being played. And the heuristic is this, or the principle is this, people need to start saying this. We have to take our own side. Americans, Christians, you, me, we don't agree on everything, but we have to take our own side. And what that means is we can't be used by the Palestinians. We also can't be used by Israel. We can't be used by the leftists on the campus. We also can't be used by these non-profits from foreign countries that are trying to ban the tea. I told you, we've got to stop being sucked into

58:47 Gang wars or tribal wars like what the hell why why are we sucked into like Crips and Bloods or Jews versus Palestinians? Why why do I gotta pay for the what I gotta pay for Ukraine 200 million dollars like I'm done our country's falling apart I'm not against the Ukrainians went against the Jews. I'm just like I'm done I'm done too. The country's in total decline. I mean, the cities are up for grabs. It's vagabonds and opportunists have totally taken over everything. Standards are declining everywhere. The country, as you and I know, is unrecognizable. At this record level, I mean, we're on fumes right now.

59:25 Absolutely. And we just a month ago passed a $95 billion aid package. It's a giveaway. $60 billion for Ukraine, $26 for Israel, $7 for Taiwan. I'm old enough to remember. I know you said I was in diapers when you were talking about the Liberty, but I am old enough to remember Trump asked for $17 billion to build the border wall. $17 billion. No, no, but Dick, I wasn't putting you down. I'm glad you're young and successful. I know, I know. It's annoying to go, Jones, whatever, I saw the club. I'm just you're like Jones is only doing this now because people are no I made two films on I'm just a little annoying. So but moving on from that, I want to get in a fight about that. Let's shift gears into other fields that I watch your show some but I've already really get into this. But you're smart guy. I want your opinion on the next COVID tyranny, the next lockdown the UN COVID bill.

CHAPTER 22 / 32 Discussion

Lavender AI, Facial Recognition and Technocratic Tyranny

The use of "Lavender AI" in military operations is cited as a terrifying development where machines are delegated the authority to take human lives. This technocratic shift is linked to the "post-human" philosophy of Yuval Noah Harari and the World Economic Forum. The discussion warns that AI technology is being used to establish total control over society, moving beyond simple consumer applications like ChatGPT.

lavender ai· artificial intelligence· yuval noah harari· facial recognition· transhumanism

1:00:17 that takes over our bodies, the transhumanism, the WEF, because they're so powerful. What's your view on all that and where that's going? Well, I think it's disturbing because it's accelerating very rapidly. And you mentioned very briefly on the last segment this Lavender AI that they're deploying in Israel to target the Palestinians, this facial recognition technology. What's disturbing is we don't know the real extent of it. We know that they are restricting how much of the artificial intelligence software is killed. Well, we know Israel says it's okay, we kill a bunch of people, a robot did it, and then they admit it's killing five times more. So they're like, it's okay, we're killing civilians, a robot said do it. That's like advocating your responsibility, it's very dangerous.

1:01:05 It's terrifying. The combination of these unmanned ground and air vehicles combined with facial recognition and artificial intelligence, it's not hard to see where this goes. And that is mass murder, because if you can send machines into battle and delegate the authority or responsibility to take life to an artificial intelligence learning algorithm, This lands in full-on slaughter and I don't think... Well that goes back to Nuremberg where they say we're only following orders. Regardless, that's the current thing. So where you just give your responsibility over, oh machines said I'm gonna do it. This is taking humans out of the decision process. This is the end of humanity. This is what you all know Harari calls the post-human world.

1:01:51 That's exactly right. And it's these military applications which are so terrifying, and we don't even know the full extent of it. I mean, you know, when they released ChatGPT, consumers got a taste of it. It was so powerful, it meaningfully started to replace lawyers and doctors. People were using it to get legal advice and medical advice. They actually had to go back and revise ChatGPT and make it weaker because it was too powerful. And that was just a public product. That's just what we know about. We don't even know how sophisticated Oh, let me back you up. I know some of the top computer people, I'm sure you do too. They tell me what we're seeing is 10 years old. They're holding it back. It would take everything over right now. I mean, I already, listen, six months ago, the AI hacked my phone number, called me on Tucker Carlson's number, and then mimicked Tucker Carlson's voice to me, but I could tell what it was saying wasn't Tucker. So I said, this is AI, and it hung up, and then it was confirmed it was AI. I mean, that's old technology.

1:02:48 Absolutely. And well, that's the problem is we don't even, I mean, people like yourself are aware, but the masses are not fully aware of the threat that's posed by this stuff. It's not even public what's out there. So see, I'd rather not fight Muslim versus Jew, Christian. I get the fights there. I'm not saying it's not real. I'd rather unify and say, we don't release biological weapons with COVID, or we don't release nuclear weapons because it'll kill us. We have to decide to not do this. We, humans control our own evolution. To me, that's the existential threat. I agree. Arms control in terms of artificial intelligence and robotics is really one of the understated issues of our time. It may be the biggest issue of our time. And it's simple. When you go to Chick-fil-A and a robot delivers your food at your table or a robot, you say, no, I don't want a robot. It's not that you're against technology. It's that the technology is being bent towards attacking us.

1:03:41 I don't know, I may push back. I mean, when you go to the drive-thru and you get an AI, I prefer that over what you usually get. You go to Wendy's drive-thru and they're like, what you want? What you want? You know, I prefer the artificial intelligence. No, but I get it's better in ways, but it's like you put a worm on a hook. The worm is the AI gets it done better, but it's connected to something evil. I'm not saying the AI isn't better up front. I'm saying it gives them total control. So I'd rather somebody say, You know, three times I want a cheeseburger, you want a chicken sandwich, I told you a cheeseburger three times. Send it back, they give you a salad. I understand that's a human problem. But... I'm just teasing you a little bit. No, I know you're teasing me, man, but it's like... See, while you're all worried about religious groups and racial groups, and I am too, you get like, I'm worried about the technocracy, right? Like, I'm worried about that. That's what I'm really concerned about.

CHAPTER 23 / 32 Discussion

Derp State Incompetence, Global Conflict and World War III

The "Deep State" is rebranded as the "Derp State" due to the perceived incompetence of officials like Peter Strzok and Fani Willis. Despite this incompetence, the risk of global cataclysm is high as countries like France and Lithuania consider sending troops to Ukraine. Conflict zones in Venezuela, Taiwan, Armenia, and Kosovo are identified as potential flashpoints for an escalating World War III.

deep state· macron· russia· serbia· taiwan

1:04:36 I think you're right to be concerned about that. It's certainly one of the big issues of the time, AI, robotics. It's the end of humanity. I totally agree with you. Well, maybe I can't help myself that I project humanity on every group, and I think they're going to want to join me. Maybe I'm wrong, Nick. Okay. You brought up a great point. Next point, what do you want to cover? Next point, why don't we cover, how about, we've covered a lot, the protesters. Why don't we cover the Trump trial. Yes. And not just New York, they just suspended the trial on immunity. They just suspended the trial on dealing with the documents. I mean, the wheels are coming off. What's going to happen there? I don't know. I think they've totally lost the plot, though. I mean, between the Fannie Willis thing in Georgia, now they're threatening to throw him in jail. They're postponing the document thing. I think the whole thing is completely fallen apart. It reminds me very much of the

1:05:31 It reminds me very much of that dossier that came out about Trump and the golden showers in the Russian hotel, the Steele dossier. This stuff is so half-baked and it's sort of amusing. I mean, people try to project onto the deep state like these guys are 007, like these guys are men in black. People say it's the deep state, it's the derp state. I mean, these guys are complete idiots. The people that set up Trump, Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, they could barely keep it in their pants. Then you got this Fulton County trial with Fannie Willis. She hires one of her boyfriends who's never done a felony trial to be the judge, paying him 100 times what the next highest paid judge is being paid. It's a joke, you know, but that's really the symptom of the country. I suppose that may be a source of optimism,

1:06:17 We look at what we're up against and it's an asymmetrical battle. They're richer than us, they're more powerful than us, they wield this technology that we've just talked about. But they're retarded. I mean, no, no, they literally are incompetent, which actually scares me more because a smart person knows their limits and is concerned. A dumb person doesn't. Yes, well, it cuts both ways, though. There's hubris. There's the hubris of going too far and doubling down when they should seek an off-ramp. At the same time, hubris leads to miscalculations. The goal, though, is to just avoid a catastrophe. We don't want a situation where the neocons and technocrats keep doubling down

1:06:59 using force to suppress patriotism, using force to suppress humanity. By the way, they're doing that. Lithuania, France, they're all sending troops right now to fight the Russians. It's already happened. That's right, France too. They say that France is already there and Macron is talking about fighting them directly. I mean, it's on. It's on in Venezuela. It's on in Ukraine. It's on in the Middle East. It's going to be on in Taiwan shortly. It'll be on in Armenia, where Azerbaijan is looking to take advantage, Serbia and Kosovo. The whole world is about to blow up in conflict. We're already in World War III. It's just exactly the same as the period that preceded the last two world wars in the 20th century. So people would do well to get smart and pay attention and look at the real sources of information like what we're talking about rather than some of this other nonsense. And I tend to agree with you.

1:07:52 I think most of politics is a great big diversion. I know that, you know, maybe I place a little bit too much emphasis in your mind on some of these other things, but you're absolutely right that there is a global perspective. There is absolutely a universal global perspective of how we can all unite and try to avert this coming cataclysm. I think that's the only way to describe it is a total cataclysm and it's coming very quickly. A period of global anarchy, conflict on every continent, and using a new class of weapons that we don't even fully understand. Weapons that we don't even fully control.

CHAPTER 24 / 32 Discussion

Trump Second Term Agenda, Schedule F and Ukraine Peace

A proposed agenda for a second Trump term includes firing 50,000 federal employees via Schedule F to uproot the deep state. On the foreign policy front, the plan involves ending the war in Ukraine by recognizing Russian annexations and ensuring Ukraine remains a neutral buffer state outside of NATO. The ultimate goal is to pry Russia away from its alliance with China to prevent a "nightmare coalition."

donald trump· schedule f· nato· ukraine· russia

1:08:28 So, if there ever was a time for the patriots of all nations to get together and rise up against the technocrats, now would be it. And I guess I'm just looking for a little cooperation. I mean, I hope that me getting re- to maybe bring it full circle, hopefully me getting reinstated on X is as a little olive branch, maybe to bring me and my faction back into the fold. Because I absolutely agree with you and whatever background people come from, if they agree with us on these matters, we're on the same side on this stuff. So I'm totally willing to go all in with you on the big tent and to look for agreement and to look for overlap. Regardless. Well, let me ask you this big question. This is the big question. Obviously, you wouldn't want to be a dictator. You wouldn't want to be, you know, Tim Jeong Un. But if you were George Washington and you were the president,

1:09:19 How would you end these wars? What would you do politically? What would you do to the left? People say, oh, Trump's gonna get in and be a dictator. Well, we're not about retribution. I said this the first time with Roger Stone, but they've committed crimes. The deep state is embedded. It's a coup. So if there's a coup that's taking over your government, you've gotta go remove it. We're not looking for a fight. They already did it. So if you were the president, if you were President Trump January 21st, 2025, sworn in in front of the US Capitol, what would Nick Fuentes do? Well, day one I would fire 50,000 federal employees because what you have to recognize is when Trump got in the first time, it was the deep state that refused to allow him to carry out the agenda. And we could get into all the details on that, but it was literally an abject refusal and sabotage. I mean, borderly illegal and unconstitutional. So I'd fire 50,000 people right off the rip and replace it with loyal patriots.

1:10:15 There are plenty of smart people in America. You don't need to find these left-wing dirtbags in Washington, D.C., these, like I said, Lisa Page, Peter Strock types. You find good people to run the government. That's number one. Number two, you build the wall. I mean, there's millions of people pouring in every day. That's the biggest national security threat nobody talks about. We don't even know who these people are. We don't even know how many people are coming in. How could we? It's 20, 30,000 a day. It's 300,000 in a given month. So you got to get the military on the border and you got to get them to build a wall not an 18-foot fence with a 5-foot climbing plate needed a 30-foot concrete wall 1,000 miles at least possibly 2,000. That's day one that's day two.

1:10:56 Day number three, you need to stop the war in Ukraine immediately. They lost. You need to sacrifice those four eastern oblasts that have already seceded and been annexed by Russia. You need to agree that Ukraine will never join NATO and find a way that Ukraine could be a buffer state like it had been for the past 30 years. Then you try to pry Russia away from China. The nightmare coalition in the Bismarck terminology is Russia and China. It didn't have to be like that. As a matter of fact, it shouldn't have been like that. China and Russia- Well, that's right. Nixon tried to split those two. That is the nightmare equation. Since you mentioned it, here's clip 21. Illegal scaling the San Diego, California border and the Border Patrol is high-fiving them and then they tried to arrest the press. Here it is.

CHAPTER 25 / 32 Discussion

TSA Lists, Border Security and Illegal Immigration

The host describes being placed on TSA watchlists and subjected to invasive searches while the southern border remains wide open. Video footage from San Diego purportedly shows illegal immigrants crossing the border while agents are prevented from intervening. The influx of millions of people is characterized as a "dumping ground" for other nations' problems, contrasting with the pro-nationalist policies of leaders in El Salvador.

tsa· san diego· el salvador· illegal immigration· national security

1:11:47 I mean folks, you get your balls gripped to fly and we're all being watched for the IRS. But the illegal aliens just pour across and I'm not even against these people individually, but I'm against them as a weapon being used against us. Absolutely. Well, you go to the TSA, they grab your balls, you know, they put you through that machine where they could see it naked. And then these people, they just walk right through. I mean, you can't bring a 10 ounce bottle of shampoo on an airplane. Oh, they've got me on a list. I went to Hawaii a few months ago with the family. They grabbed my balls going there and coming back. I'm on a list. They go, oh, hi, Alex, we're a lister. Sorry, I do this. And literally, I always have some dude literally grabbing me. Like my whole life, no dudes have grabbed me until I fly on the TSA. But the border's wide open, Nick.

1:12:29 That's right. It's an empire of... it's a total joke. The emperor has no clothes and it's a completely lawless country. So that's something that you got to take care of day one, because these people are pouring in. They could be Chinese spies. They could be terrorists. We don't even know. And at the minimum, if you're lucky, they're just regular old, illiterate people. I don't mean to attack them personally, but These are people that really don't bring anything to the table economically. The best you could hope for. If they don't have completely malign intentions, they're just somebody that's been walking through the desert probably without a shout. Morgan El Salvador. They're paying for scientists to come there.

1:13:09 That's right. They're paying for scientists, artists, all kinds of people. That's called enriching your country. But that's because they have a leader that puts their country first. They have a strong leader with a popular mandate to grow the country's economy and try to create a better future. And that is really what MAGA is about, make America great again. It's this idea that we can acknowledge our country is not as good as it used to be. We can do something about that. It doesn't have to be this way. It's a lack of political will. The government can change everything. And by the way, we can take people from Africa and the Middle East and Eastern Europe, but we want the best.

1:13:47 Certainly. Well, and in a small number. We're taking in millions of people every year and they're not the best. In fact, they're the worst. I mean, these are people that are literally being dumped in. They're getting, and Trump was right when he said it, they're sending these people, they're emptying their jails, they're emptying the people that they can't take care of into our country so that we pay to educate them and pay for their hospital. They're dumping on us. It's a dumping ground for their exports. That's why I said, that's my next question. Netanyahu, three months ago the document came out, now Biden said it two weeks ago, they want to bring a million refugees to Gaza here. Feel sorry for them, fine, but if Israel says they're so deadly they can't take them, I said that's Netanyahu using America as a toilet.

CHAPTER 26 / 32 Discussion

Gaza Refugees, Peoria Illinois and Balkanization

Plans to bring a million refugees from Gaza to American towns like Peoria, Illinois, are criticized as a strategy for the balkanization of the United States. The discussion alleges that the "Israeli lobby" favors mass immigration to create social incoherence and political division. This population transfer is viewed as a method of "divide and conquer" that destroys the American social fabric.

gaza· peoria· ilhan omar· balkanization· refugees

1:14:31 That is, I think, the aspect that nobody's talking about. There were two Israeli politicians in The Wall Street Journal a few months ago, and they said that America has to open its doors to the refugees. It's like, OK, so they're not good enough for Israel, they're not good enough for Gaza, they're not good enough for the Sinai, but they're coming to a town near you, they're coming to Peoria, Illinois, they're coming to Boston, they're coming to Little Rock. It's totally ridiculous, but that is the plan. It's a population transfer and just like in Syria or Iraq or Afghanistan, or even Libya for that matter, they want to throw them into our country. But let's just say it, the Israeli lobby predominantly loves balkanization and they love a bunch of new Democrats, a bunch of Ilhan Omar's. And so they're going to dump that here and then use it to divide us just like Netanyahu

1:15:21 predecessors created Hamas to divide Palestine. It's the same deal. It's 100% on the money. It's what they're doing over there, it's what they're doing over here, it's what they're doing in Europe. It's classic divide and conquer because people are easier to rule when there are no ties that bind, when there's no social fabric. If everybody comes here, and I'm totally with you, we don't hate the people, we just can't have a country that's completely incoherent and incomprehensible. We need to have a social fabric, we need to have common values. How about a common language for starters? And we don't need the world to dump all of their problems into our country. Let Israel take care of them. Let El Salvador or Guatemala take care of them. We have enough problems as it is. I think everybody recognizes that. Exactly. We're sick of being told we got to bend over to anybody. I don't care who it is, Israel, anybody. We'll be right back with Nick J. Fuentes. Stay with us. All right, Nick Fuentes, let's talk.

CHAPTER 27 / 32 Discussion

Pro-Human Future, Yuval Noah Harari and Eugenics

The philosophy of Yuval Noah Harari is condemned as a "post-human" agenda that views humanity as "scum" or "trash." This worldview is linked to globalists like Bill Gates and Larry Fink, who are accused of promoting eugenics and technocratic control. The host advocates for a "pro-human" future centered on family and traditional values, rejecting the transhumanist vision of the World Economic Forum.

yuval noah harari· bill gates· larry fink· eugenics· transhumanism

1:16:24 GMO, transhumanism, poison shots, UN treaties, world government because I see a lot of the great work. I'm not saying you, but it seems like a lot of your supporters are a one track mind on one issue and one issue alone. And to me, I want to sell people on a pro human future like Elon Musk is doing, and I'm not doing that to critique you or say you're wrong. I'm saying this is where I come from. This is what I actually believe. There's no wizards telling me what to do. Sometimes I wish there was. I am a pro human. I'm not saying you, but it seems like a lot of your supporters are a one track mind on one issue and one issue alone. And to me, I want to sell people on a pro human future like Elon Musk is doing. And I'm not doing that to critique you or say you're wrong. I'm saying this is where I come from. This is what I actually believe. There's no wizards telling me what to do. Sometimes I wish there was. I am a pro human. I'm not saying you, but it seems like a lot of your supporters are a one I am literally trying to fight for human future. I have four children. You know, you saw that clip from like 28 years ago we just played, you know, where I was talking about, you know, people being trendy and not caring. You care. That's a good thing. People have their free speech. I support that. So covering the waterfront, transhumanism, the UN treaty, all that, you've all known Harari, the future is not human. I say BS.

1:17:26 I totally agree. I think you're right. The future does belong to humanity. Just look at the fertility rates. And we hit this on one of the previous segments. These people like Hariri, they're not having kids. I don't know about him in particular, but these trendies, as you said in that clip, these leftists, these liberals, people that took the vax, I mean, if they're even alive, people are dropping like flies because of the vaccine they just pulled AstraZeneca, which was one of the... Yeah, no, Hariri's not having any kids. He's doing something else. That's right. Yeah, they're all doing some pretty strange things. No, but the future belongs to the people that show up and intergenerationally, the people that show up are the people that are having kids. People like you, people like Elon Trump. Hopefully me one day, I don't have kids right now. But no, I think it's a very bright future for

1:18:15 the people like us because we're the ones that are going out there and forming the families. Not me in particular, not yet, but people that share our views, we're the ones that are going out there and forming the families and having the kids. And the kids are the ones that grow up and they are going to be the humanity of the future. Consequently, population is always getting more religious. It's always getting more conservative. It's always getting more pro-human just by a kind of interesting new selection bias, which has resulted from modernity. So I totally agree. This is not, the fight is far from over. But it does all come down to, as you said, this full spectrum of issues. Everything that's getting in the way is coming from the globalists. It's the vaccines, it's the poison, GMO foods, it's things like birth control. I would contend it's even fundamentally built into modernity. It's the fact that women are deferring childbirth all the

1:19:09 the time the the average age at which women are having children is always going up and the higher that it goes to lower the fertility rate. So let's just get the elephant in the room out in the open because you're being nicer on the show. I'm not afraid of going anywhere because like 80% of people in Israel are against Netanyahu. I just want to give Jews an opportunity to come in. I want to give Germans, Christians, Muslims, anybody but Netanyahu did say he uses Israel as guinea pigs, and if you do look at Borla, and if you do look at Larry Fink and the CEOs, they are predominantly Jewish.

1:19:44 who are the leaders of the communist revolution, they're predominantly Jewish, and we've got great folks like the people that put out these major conservative universities like PragerU, they admit that. There's also a lot of great people that would be Jewish that are fighting that. But I wonder where that paradigm is where you have so many of the transhumanists like you all know, Harari and others, that are with Bill Gates, Sounds like a eugenicist Nazi to me and on that paradigm because when I try to oppose globalism or Yovano Harari, I got a New York Times article how many Semitic I didn't really make a focus on him being Jewish saying it's a post-human world to say the future is not human. That sounds beyond Hitler. Hitler said it's only Aryan and slaves under it, which I don't agree with. But then when somebody says you're all dead, you're all scum, you're all trash, I have a real problem with that. So how

1:20:39 How do you square that up? Well, I think that religion is fundamental. And if I talk a lot about Jewish people, it's because I am fundamentally motivated more than anything by the mission to evangelize people into the Christian religion. For me in particular, that's a Catholic church. So I don't have this view of, I don't have an indifferentist view of God that, you know, everybody's out there worshiping the same God. I think there's one Trinitarian God with a very specific, particular nature. I think that one of those persons of God became incarnate in man. His name was Jesus Christ. He was put on the cross. He founded a church. Now, the reason I say all that stuff is because, of course, the Jewish people rejected him. And the Jewish people, in rejecting him, in rejecting this Messiah that they were to bear, and a lot of the Jews, of course, the early Christian community was mostly Jewish people who then became Christians. But those Jews that persisted without accepting Jesus Christ

CHAPTER 28 / 32 Discussion

Religious Dichotomy, Synagogue of Satan and Evangelism

A theological discussion explores the rejection of Jesus Christ by rabbinical Judaism and the subsequent historical movements like the Kabbalah and the Enlightenment. The guest emphasizes his Catholic faith and the mission to evangelize, arguing that the "chosen people" are now the body of Christ. This religious perspective is used to explain the perceived spiritual conflict underlying modern globalist movements.

jesus christ· catholic church· maimonides· kabbalah· illuminati

1:19:44 who are the leaders of the communist revolution, they're predominantly Jewish, and we've got great folks like the people that put out these major conservative universities like PragerU, they admit that. There's also a lot of great people that would be Jewish that are fighting that. But I wonder where that paradigm is where you have so many of the transhumanists like you all know, Harari and others, that are with Bill Gates, Sounds like a eugenicist Nazi to me and on that paradigm because when I try to oppose globalism or Yovano Harari, I got a New York Times article how many Semitic I didn't really make a focus on him being Jewish saying it's a post-human world to say the future is not human. That sounds beyond Hitler. Hitler said it's only Aryan and slaves under it, which I don't agree with. But then when somebody says you're all dead, you're all scum, you're all trash, I have a real problem with that. So how

1:20:39 How do you square that up? Well, I think that religion is fundamental. And if I talk a lot about Jewish people, it's because I am fundamentally motivated more than anything by the mission to evangelize people into the Christian religion. For me in particular, that's a Catholic church. So I don't have this view of, I don't have an indifferentist view of God that, you know, everybody's out there worshiping the same God. I think there's one Trinitarian God with a very specific, particular nature. I think that one of those persons of God became incarnate in man. His name was Jesus Christ. He was put on the cross. He founded a church. Now, the reason I say all that stuff is because, of course, the Jewish people rejected him. And the Jewish people, in rejecting him, in rejecting this Messiah that they were to bear, and a lot of the Jews, of course, the early Christian community was mostly Jewish people who then became Christians. But those Jews that persisted without accepting Jesus Christ

1:21:38 they kind of formed this new religion, this rabbinical Judaism, Maimonides is a part of it. There's a very dense and complicated history. And throughout history, you see them show up at the beginning of all of these evil movements, like the Kabbalah, like the Illuminati. You see them at the founding of really the Enlightenment with Baruch Spinoza. And you see them popping up all over the place. And I don't think that's a coincidence. I think that there's a very clear kind of dichotomy set up from a religious point of view between Christians and Jews. Revelation talks very precisely about a synagogue of Satan. I think that Jews being the only religion that say that Jesus is burning in hell, being the only religion that actually hates Jesus, I think that's extremely relevant. Sure, but let's back off from that because I want to have a real discussion here. And I agree with what you're saying, that's true.

1:22:30 It's the Jews came up with Abrahamic religions. I mean, there's something special about the Jews even before Jesus, King David, King Solomon, all that. What do you think it is about the Jews? I mean, 3,000 years ago they were a big deal. I mean, let's recognize there's something going on there. Well, God chose them to bear the Savior. God chose Adam and Eve, and God chose Noah, and God chose Abraham, and so they were raised up. So exactly, as much as I'm mad at what some of them are doing, I respect what they came from. You see the difference? Is that I don't hate them, though I can fear what some of them are doing. I'm legitimately trying to get them not destroy themselves and all of us at the same time, along with every other group that's doing this. Does that make sense? Absolutely. Well, and I don't hate them either. And I will give you a little love speech.

CHAPTER 29 / 32 Discussion

Catholic Church Corruption, Pope Francis and Globalism

The current leadership of the Catholic Church under Pope Francis is criticized for aligning with globalist and communist agendas. While acknowledging the fallibility of individual popes, the guest maintains belief in the protected doctrine of the Magisterium. The discussion posits that the UN is waging a global war on Christians because their belief in God makes them impossible for worldly powers to control.

pope francis· pope benedict· vatican· magisterium· communism

1:23:18 I think the Jews are actually extremely intelligent. I know a lot of them and I actually respect a lot of them immensely. I mean, you could say that on the one hand, and to their credit, they are the author of a lot of bad things. They also are the author of a lot of good things. They make good movies, they make good music, they're funny. A lot of them are intelligent. I have immense respect even for the ones I disagree with, even for a guy like Shapiro. I don't like him. I think he's a hard worker. And I can say that about a lot of them. So it really doesn't come from a place of hatred, but it does come from a place that they do practice a different religion. It comes from a place of your independence saying you're who you are. So let me ask you this. I know a lot of Catholics, great people, love them all. Catholic Church is ancient, it's gonna be corrupt like any old powerful group, no matter who it is. Let's just, US government, you know, is old, it's powerful, it's corrupt. That's where I'm at, like, I don't blame Jews, their system's old and corrupt, they're old and corrupt, like America or China, Xi Jinping. I mean, I love the Chinese people.

1:24:11 But looking at this, take the Catholic Church, take Pope Benedict. I mean, Pope John Paul II, man, I read everything he said, I agree with it. I'm not a Catholic, this guy's anti-communist, pro-family. This is good. Okay, vicar of Christ. You look at the next guy, well, and then this new guy is like a communist for world government. So what do you say about Benedict? Well, I would say it's in what you said moments ago. The Catholic Church is a human institution on earth and Catholics have a very specific doctrine that they say that there are only certain circumstances under which the Pope is speaking infallibly when he's actually protected from the throne. Exactly right. And there have been popes throughout history that were far worse than Pope Francis that turned the Vatican into a brothel. Benedict was the last, you're right, it's Francis, I'm sorry.

1:25:05 No, no, but I mean, you could say that about, there are a lot of popes that were imperfect or weren't great or whatever, but we believe in the magisterium. We believe that the teaching has been uncorrupted and protected from error. And you're right. I mean, just every human being is going to be fallible. Every human being is going to be a sinner, but we can't be indifferent to the doctrine. Christians worship the real God, non-Christians don't. And that doesn't mean that we don't have things in common with them. It doesn't mean that we should not try to achieve mutual understanding. It doesn't mean that we should hate them or not. So you don't think Jews that were given this and brought forward the three Abrahamic religions, you don't think that on average they're worshiping the same God?

1:25:45 No, I think they're all going to hell because they don't worship Jesus. And I don't like that. I wish they would worship Jesus. But it's very clear that the new body of Christ, or rather the new people of God, the new chosen is the body of Christ. It's the church. Christ came to fulfill the old commandments. And so now the chosen people are the Christians, the people that partake in the sacrifice with the Eucharist. So, no, I don't believe. There's definitely a UN global war on Christians. The UN admits it's record-level attacks on Christians. Why do you think that is? I think it's because Christians, because they have belief in God, cannot be controlled by worldly powers.

1:26:26 Of course, global government fears religion that they can't control. Of course, they fear it's just no different than the devil who thinks that he controls the world, who offered Jesus control over the world if only Jesus would bow and worship at his feet. It's really that same frustration that the devil had. Jesus would not submit to him. Christians will not submit to the Antichrist New World Order system. That's because we worship God. the and be their slave. I can't physically do it, Nick. That's why when I get criticized for it, it makes me mad because I may be temporarily distorted through rose-colored dark leash, but I am trying to be a good person. I'm trying to tell the truth.

CHAPTER 30 / 32 Discussion

Henry Kissinger, No-Fly Lists and System Sellouts

The host recounts an attempt by Henry Kissinger's associates to "buy him off" with a lucrative media deal in New York, which he refused to maintain his independence. This refusal led to systemic retaliation, including being placed on no-fly lists and facing massive lawsuits. The guest also shares his experience of being placed on a "quad S" flight restriction list until legal intervention by attorney Norm Pattis forced the government to remove him.

henry kissinger· norm pattis· no-fly list· fbi· censorship

1:27:24 I know, and I know that and we know that. I mean, everyone that supports me, even when we disagree with you, we all recognize that you are the archetype. You created this whole landscape and you couldn't have done that if you were a sellout. I mean, you're such a talented person. You'd be at CNN. You'd be making, you would be doing, I mean, I know you make a lot of money now, but you'd be doing totally different things than what you've been doing for all these years. So I don't think, even in spite of the disagreements, I don't think there's anybody that doesn't respect what you've been doing and the kind of information that you bring. It's not about me, Nick, and I appreciate that, but I've been with Roger Ailes, offered the weekend show to have the weeknight show and the book deal on the $20 million a year 15 years ago, and I've been in Hollywood. We'll give you all the top roles. I thought, well, I thought you put me in a few movies because you like me. You called me. You want me to sell out. That happened. So I can tell people that's a very— Skype just broke up. That is a very strong point for people

1:28:17 is that the system literally has tried to buy me off. Henry Kissinger had the head of his Rothkopf, the head of his group, And that was an on record meeting, that's why I tell it. If I have an off record meeting, I don't tell the story. Literally tried to buy me off. It's not about me with them trying to buy me off. They literally did that, folks. They literally have tried to get me to sign on and serve them. And that's the whole thing. People need to know how incredibly real all of this is. I mean, Satan is real, God is real. The New World Order is a real thing coming in, shutting off the farms, shutting off the resources, taking over society, doing all of this. This is actually happening. We're still trying to get Nick reconnected. Just text him, we'll do phone if you need to, guys. You have his phone number. All right, we're gonna get back on. So all I'm trying to say is, when I tell you those stories about them trying to get me to work for them,

1:29:17 It isn't to impress you, it's to explain I know how real this is because I've had them try to buy me off. Henry Kissinger in front of my producer, the oldest employee here, 20 years, John Harmon, and they were so dumb in front of him, they said, come to New York, Henry Kissinger wants to hire you, you're gonna do all this. So I can tell people this is real. Nikki got cut off, go ahead and comment on that, sorry. Yeah, sorry about that technical glitch. I absolutely agree with you. And I think that as I was just saying before I got cut off there that you would have been in a very different place because you would have compromised. That's what everybody does. I think that everybody finds success outside the system and then they're faced with a choice. It's the same choice I was faced with. You can either be co-opted and you can become a part of the system and actually serve the system. It's not even about some kind of

1:30:07 It's about actually then going and working for the system, which is what so many people do. That's a definition of being co-opted. And that's why you've remained independent, which is a far greater struggle. It's why you've been subject to these lawsuits. It's the same thing that happened to me. It's why I've been investigated. It's why I've been censored from everything and had to deal with so much nonsense. And no fly list. And by the way, I know that's real because I got you the lawyer who went and the feds admitted it and took you off it after a year of lawsuits. I mean, that was real. You were on a no-fly list. That's right. Yeah, when it actually happened, some people were skeptical. They said, where's the proof? It's like, well, they don't actually like call you on the phone and say, hello, you are on the no-fly list. They just do it. It's totally Kafka-esque. But you showed video at the airport over and over again. You know, you can't fly, sir.

1:30:56 That's right, yeah, they picked up the phone and they said, yeah, yeah, yada, yada, no fly list. I said, what? No fly list? They said, oh, never mind, because you're actually not supposed to say. But you're right, and you generously referred me to Norm Pannis, who helped work through that case. And eventually, they took me off the list. I was on the quad S for a long time, major flight restriction. I'm now off that as well. But that's just an example of the kind of things that they put you through that if you don't bow down and submit and then go and put the 666 on your forehead and go to work for them, that's the kind of rigmarole they put you through. And it sucks and it's not fair. It makes life harder. But, you know, we have a cross to bear. So let's say something nice about Israel, like the Chinese people under under control of Xi Jinping.

CHAPTER 31 / 32 Discussion

Family Values, Fertility Rates and Archetypal Energy

The discussion shifts to the importance of starting large families to ensure a pro-human future, noting that Israel has a high fertility rate that America should emulate. The host encourages the guest to marry and have children, describing fatherhood as a "next-level" experience that unlocks archetypal energy. This personal growth is framed as essential for building civilization and resisting the New World Order.

elon musk· carl jung· fertility· family· fatherhood

1:31:39 Netanyahu's got like 20% approval rating. They have riots trying to get rid of him. All I want is open a big tent up to Christians, Muslims, Jews, agnostics, Catholics, Buddhists, Hindus, just let's be anti-New World Order. Let's be anti-CBDC. You get my thing as I'm just trying to say these are the policies I'm against. I'm not going to list a group to it. Sure, there's groups behind it. You get where I'm coming from? I absolutely get where you're coming from on that. And to say something nice about Israel, I think they're very technologically sophisticated. I think they have a strong sense of national identity. It's something that we can learn from them. They have a strong, they're the only modern country with a high fertility rate, with an above replacement fertility rate for the religious and non-religious people. So clearly they're doing something right. And so I just, I guess to put it succinctly, I wish America had the same problem

1:32:30 Exactly. I'm like, instead of being envious, how about we outperform? And I want to do that. It's just that, uh, when are you going to get a lovely lady and start having some kids? It's the best thing ever, brother. You're a good looking guy. Come on. You ain't got some girl you're ready to marry. Oh, I'm going to get serious soon. You know, I'm just, uh, I'm really focused on what I'm doing and you know me when you were my age, you were a Chad, you were in the gym, you were muscular. I'm kind of like a little autistic. I have a little more trouble. I mean, you're like the boomer dad. I'm like the autistic zoomer kid. It's a generational thing. I was sure you could get a lot of girls, my friend. I wouldn't get yourself down there. One of these days, one of these days I'm going to start a big Catholic family and you know, all our kids will be hanging out fighting the new world order. You know the Godfather, he says, he's spending time with your family.

1:33:27 And he says, yeah, he goes, because a man's not a man once he spent time with his family. I'm telling you, it's the best thing ever. 100% right. That was you, Elon Trump, the family man. You're going to go next level, man. When you've got like three or four kids running around, it's like something clicks. It's crazy. I don't know how to describe it. It's like have children. Like Elon says, it is like next level, man. You're like, And now I'm 50 and now I'm thinking about everybody, literally, I'm some loving good guy. Now I think about society and culture. I want to build civilization. I want to build, I want to help people. It's like become the elder. You're already a really smart guy, but when you have children and become the elder, it's the next level.

1:34:08 Yeah, you are the elder. You do have this kind of mature wisdom. I think everybody has to respect that. You've been around the block. And it will happen for me maybe in the next five years or so. I've just been caught up. I wasn't saying I'm the grandpa. I'm saying get the woman, go through the hell, have the children. If you think you're smart now, the day that first daughter or son comes out of your wife and you're in the hospital, you're going to get hit. and all this stuff goes and opens up and you're like, whoa, it's the archetypes of Carl Young. It opens all this archetypal energy is what I'm trying to say. And I want to see you when you're a father because that is going to be the next level. All right, we got five minutes left. You got the floor. I've been interrupting Nick Fuentes. What else is on your radar? Well,

CHAPTER 32 / 32 Discussion

JD Vance, Peter Thiel and the VP Race

Senator J.D. Vance is criticized as a potential Vice Presidential pick for Donald Trump due to his ties to Peter Thiel and Palantir. The guest warns that Vance's past opposition to Trump and his connections to the American Enterprise Institute make him "bad news." The Vice Presidency is viewed as a critical role for managing the "Schedule F" reclassification of federal bureaucrats in a second Trump term.

jd vance· peter thiel· palantir· project 2025· vice president

1:35:00 I guess the big thing that's on my radar, not to open up a whole new can of worms or anything, but I'm really looking at this vice presidential race. Oh yeah, you mentioned Trump and we'll do a little bit in the next hour. They gotta go, you got a big secret mission. But yeah, talk about the presidential race, talk about, you see, earlier, before we went live, you want to talk about Trump and the trials. Go ahead. Yes, so we have this big race now for who's going to be the vice president. And I hinted at this a little bit. He asked me what I'd do when I was president. This is what they're planning to do if Trump wins again, which is this Schedule F reclassification of 50,000 federal employees. And there's all sorts of projects right now, American Moment, Project 2025, a number of others. And they're trying to put together the personnel that will fill up the next administration.

1:35:46 It seems that whoever will be the vice president could have extraordinary power over those hiring and firing personnel decisions. So it's actually a much bigger deal than people realize. People say, you know, vice president, what do they even do? You know, how is that even important? But, you know, Trump is, I love Trump, but he's getting up there in age, and I think that he's a delegator. He's a businessman. In the last administration, unfortunately, he delegated a lot to Jared Kushner. In this administration, I think he'll be delegating a lot to the vice president. All signs point to this Senator J.D. Vance from Ohio, and I gotta be, just like you and me were the first ones to call out the Red Mirage in 2020, once again, we're gonna break it on InfoWars. I feel like the big thing that I'm worried about, to kinda call it out, is J.D. Vance becoming the VP. This guy's bad news. He was against Trump in 16, he endorsed Evan McMullin, he was with American Enterprise Institute, which nothing good ever comes out of there.

1:36:42 I mean, and not to mention the guys totally with Peter Thiel and the guys totally in bed with Palantir and that whole Straussian, very disturbing thing. So I'm going to be putting a lot of content out about this on my show and on Twitter and kind of raising awareness for it. But I really think that we, we, people like you and I, and the listeners need to start to articulate what we want from Trump because I feel like in many ways the first term was a missed opportunity. I know you were frustrated with it, many people were. We have to make sure because we may get a second chance, we can't mess it up again because we're not going to get a third roll of the dice. This second term, there's a lot riding on it, we got to get it right. And that's why people like us got to get organized to start to work. And I know you and I are, but

1:37:28 We really got to start to articulate what we want from Trump. And I've been saying even to go to the rallies and, you know, even if we could get chants going and things like that or talk about, get the message out on social media, we got to start to say what we want from the second term because we didn't really walk away with the time. And, you know, and I recognize there were reasons for that, but we can't really afford to fumble at a second time and we'll have a unique opportunity. So I'm really looking forward to 2024. We got to win in Michigan. We got to win in Arizona. We got to win in Georgia. Those are must-win presidential states. We also got to promulgate the message of what 2024 is going to be about. It's got to be about building the wall. It's got to be about drilling oil. It's got to be about averting World War III.

1:38:12 And it's got fundamentally to be about completely subverting or uprooting the deep state and all that entrenched power that's in the swap. Because if Trump goes in there and doesn't change that like he did in the first term, he will come and go and there will be no evidence that he was ever president. Mark my words. because those are the people, it's not the people that write the laws or pass the laws, it's those bureaucrats that enforce the laws. They're the ones interpreting and applying it every day. If you leave those people and it's the same revolving door for 30 years, they're the ones that are going to determine the future of America. Nick Fuentes, people follow you on Rumble, how do they do it?