THURSDAY TRANSMISSION: DOJ Fires Epstein Coverup Artist Maurene Comey As Patel’s FBI Closes In On The Obama Deep State Coup Plotters! PLUS, FBI Launches “Grand Criminal Conspiracy” Probe Targeting Obama, Brennan, Clapper, and Comey! Finally, Former CIA Counterterrorism Chief John Kiriakou Joins Alex Jones To Reveal The Extent Of Mossad Spy Infiltration Into The US Government — FULL SHOW 7/17/25

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00:37 17th, 2025. I am your embattled host with my intrepid crew coming to you from deep in the heart of Texas, Austin broadcasting worldwide. All right. Uh, I just was on Steve Bannon as very important interview. It just ended a three minutes ago. So as soon as the crew can grab that, I want to air the last 10 minutes of it. Here's what I'm going to do again today. I'm going to open the phones up. And I really prayed about the Trump situation. I've analyzed everything and I know exactly what's going on. I know the truth. And President Trump is telling the truth. And I understand why he's enraged. I've also talked to sources. And I was so dumbstruck 12 days ago by that memo and then knowing Trump was behind it.

01:43 And then his response saying shut this down, stop investigating without any clarity. And then coming out Sunday, seven days later and saying no, no, they've had the file, they filled it full of BS, Brennan, Clapper, Comey, of course, that's who controlled the file. And that totally makes sense and is true. That's their MO, that's all they do. But Trump has done a F minus, I mean, my God, it's worse than enough. I mean, it's like a zero. on the Streisand affecting and not having clarity and flip flopping back and forth. It's just been horrifying. But that said, I've had a lot of clarity last night and this morning, and I have some congressional reports out. They've now saved over 30,000 children in sex slavery and slave labor. You only hear about it here and there because under law they can't reveal three year olds, 10 year olds, 15 year olds because they're juveniles.

02:46 But when you see the raid on the big pot farm and now it's 14 kids, some as young as eight working in slave labor and God knows what. You're able to learn about that little window because they attacked them with clubs and guns, shot at them and cinder blocks smashing out their SUV windows, attempted murder. I mean, somebody just runs my truck throwing cinder blocks at me, I'm gonna shoot your ass, that's attempted murder. But they've been very restrained cuz they know the Democrats want blood, they want violence, they're trying to get ice. to respond with deadly force so they can then, oh my god, they killed a Civil War. I mean, that's in the Democrat Civil War plan, Podesta plan from 2020, which they rebooted. But at the same time, cops are sitting there with cinder blocks bouncing off their heads and then they don't shoot the people doing it. I mean, if it's on video, throwing cinder blocks from 50 feet above, bouncing off cops' helmets so hard the helmet flies off and the cop collapses,

03:52 side issue. It's just the point is, is that they are doing so much good dismantling the deep state and all the rest of it that I just find it impossible not to back Trump. I'm going to be very critical of him when he's doing wrong, but I just cannot throw the baby out with the bathwater. And that's where I stand. And that's where we're going to go in my view. But I will talk to you as well. See what you think. Stay with me. It is Thursday, July 17th. 2025 I am your host Alex Jones coming to you from deep in the heart of Texas transmitting worldwide remember the legs the blood the guts the bone the sinew the brain the will the amplification of this Transmission hated by the deep state above all other broadcast is in your hands you

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05:40 You decide if you're gonna share that link on your email text message you decide whether you're gonna share it word-of-mouth you decide whether you see a clip you think's important you're gonna take and share you decide you you you you you you you are in command now You must take your destiny in your hands, and you are the people that are doing it It's you the global estate. This is just a focal point and This is just an amplification channel. It's you, the globalist despise and hate every cell in your body and right down to your soul. All right, I'm gonna say this very clearly and very succinctly then I'm gonna unpack it. The American people want firings and indictments of the globalist deep state operatives. Now we've already seen more of that than we've ever seen in modern history.

06:55 And we've already seen on the big broad brush things with policy Trump's got like the border and trade and pulling us out of the WHO and so much more. We've seen bold, dramatic, amazing, spectacular developments. And I have to balance that on the scales and then look at the bad stuff Trump's doing. And nine times out of ten, when something evil is put in a bill and we expose it, it's pulled and it wasn't Trump. And that's why they want this broadcast off the air and others like it because they know as a populist movement, we are more powerful than all the corporate media combined. And we're now able to control the agenda when they had the UN treaty legislation in the spending bill when President Trump was just president elect, pressure shot that down.

08:02 A few weeks ago in the BBB, they had the majority votes to put in a AI dictatorship for 10 years above the law. It got shot down and voted down 99 to 1. Now they've got the Genius Act, it's got a central bank digital currency pathway in it that Trump says he opposes. We'll shoot that down. So the point is we've got traction. We're winning. And populists are being elected everywhere, and they're getting shot, and they're getting imprisoned, and they're getting their elections overturned. But that's okay, that just enrages people more. And then even more hardcore populists win. Yeah, Bolsonaro's gotta get stabbed. FICO had to get shot. It's a long way to the top if you wanna defeat the New World Order. But we have the initiative, we've turned the tide because of God working through us.

09:09 So I refuse to be a dimwit. I refuse to engage in one dimensional and two dimensional thinking. I could oppose bad things Trump's doing all day long and try to get him back on track, while at the same time supporting the overwhelmingly good things he's doing. So many people in this way the corporate media does it, want to make it a black and white issue or a left or right issue or you're either totally do whatever Trump says or you're a traitor or if you do anything Trump does, you're bad. And that's why stuff with Trump coming out over and over again the last week, don't question Epstein or you're with the Democrats and you're an idiot and I'm done with you and we don't want you in our movement. People say, well, he didn't write that true social post and then he goes out and press conferences and says basically the exact same thing. That is horrible. But then out of the other side of his mouth, they're gonna appoint a special prosecutor, probably Ed Martin. Great on the Epstein thing. And so my frustration is the handling of this.

10:20 When Trump came out Sunday, seven days in and went, comey, Brennan and Clapper all had this file for decades. They filled it full of disinformation. It's another Russia hoax. Cuz Trump didn't know, yeah, we're gonna release it. They go raid it. Democrats wouldn't turn it over, but they probably leaked on themselves. They get it, and there's a bunch of unsubstantiated crap in there. Guaranteed it'll be the five Jane Doe's that all turned out to be fake saying Trump raped them and stuff. Turned out those were all fake. Remember that? It's guaranteed FBI files on that. That's what it is. And I've been thinking that the last four or five days and I made some calls and people go, how do you know this? We're not going to confirm that to you, but how the hell do you know that? So that's it. And it's not hard to know that. What did they try before? What did they do before? And you got Trump in St. Petersburg or Moscow being peed on. Not true. Totally fake. Admitted fake. Created by Obama, Brennan, Clapper, Comey. And it goes on and on. Pure crap.

11:26 I'm not gonna give you an hour dissertation on how Trump A, isn't into being peed on. And B, he is a total control freak, meaning he's in charge of himself and very deliberative. He would never go be compromised by a group of people. He's never been in the club. That's why they hated him. He did stuff on his own. So it's all lies. So the issue here though is the way Trump threw a fit didn't articulate this properly, gave our enemies an incredible tool. Whereas the Democrats that never wanted any Epstein files released, now suddenly want them released because they were in control of the file and would, it's not even obviously, of course they expunged all the stuff about them. And then put a bunch of Steele dossier style, innuendo and crapola in there. There were five different Jane Doe's.

12:29 that said Trump raped him when they're 14 here. Trump screwed him at Epstein's place there. And then it always came out that it wasn't even real people and it was Democrat law firms. And then you got E. Gene Carroll, that's all. I mean, just on and on and on and on and on and on. Long before they tried to implicate Trump in all this crap, I know a lot of people that know him, including Roger Stone. And I asked him about New York Times articles in the 90s, and I talked to people that are very close to Trump. And I already knew Trump's proclivities. And Trump, actually this is a big secret, about 15 years ago he actually went and did operant conditioning training for a while, I don't know the details, to be able to shake people's hands because he's such a germaphobe neat freak. And

13:28 You can look that up. It's come out before he was in political that he was a germaphobe. And I learned his proclivities, let's just leave it from that, from a lot of people. And the type of women he likes and all of it and what he does. So I research people before I get behind them. And so yes, it's absolute total crap. Yeah, Donald Trump's gonna land in Moscow or St. Petersburg and go to a hotel and have women he doesn't even know piss on him when Trump instructs his, tells his wives and his divorce girlfriends, you got your side of the house, you got your bathroom. I don't want any, I knew this before they ever said the piss thing. Trump doesn't like his wife or anybody, cuz you're married, your wife will sit down and take a piss in front of you. I'll piss in front of my wife, but Trump is so neat freak, he doesn't wanna see his wife. That's like, I don't wanna see you in the bathroom.

14:34 So they come out with he wants to be peed on. He's the complete opposite. He loves golden furniture and crisp golf courses and has his staff sit there and steam and vacuum his suit on the airplane while he's writing memos. The guy washes his hands like 50 times a day. But no, he's being pissed on. So this is crazy. So yeah, of course the very people that did all that and it's now all come out declassified. Obama, Brennan Clapper created it all. The fake dossier, the PP gate. And I gotta say, I rarely miss an angle. And I didn't completely miss, but I dropped the ball. Let's just be completely honest.

15:29 I kept saying, whatever is going to be in those files that's incriminating the deep state, they're going to get rid of them. They wouldn't really be keeping 14 terabytes of kids being raped by Jeffrey Epstein in New York. We know Comey controlled the file. We'll use it for blackmail. And then when they got it all and said, oh, it's all there, I was like, that doesn't make sense. But of course they'd fill it with a bunch of child porn, just as a red herring or a rabbit trail and a bunch of other crap. And original reports or innuendo FBI stuff from 2014, 15 when Trump was criticizing Obama, remember all that? That's when they really started going after him is when they put NSA wiretaps on him, that's come out. We broke that by the way. Sheriff Joe Arpaio had the DEA give him their access to the NSA file

16:33 And Arpaio had been getting it to Trump, and these people had never been done with it. So he came on my show, remember that? What is it like? 2016? And Arpaio gave it to me because he said, well, you're in it. And they had a landline I never use, never. I mean, I use it like on coast to coast AM. I've probably done a landline interview in a long time because the phones are now over Wi-Fi, it's better. Digital ones. And I mean, I'm reading this thing and I'm going, that's my landline. That's my old house line. That's my private office line I never use. All my phone numbers, NSA, starting 2013, which we got the documents from Trump five months ago that they put a national security investigation on me, right out of the Boston office. It was ongoing until this year.

17:24 So when I talk about this, these are just a few node points I've got. I've got thousands of them when I come to these conclusions. So these very people that did all of this to Trump and to me, well, why were they doing that? Cuz I was opposing Obama, I was opposed to the globalists, so was Trump. And so 2013, they opened a criminal espionage investigation on me, but don't even say what government, talk about Kafkaesque. You're on trial and don't know what for. And then 2013, they opened the NSA operation up on Trump and a bunch of other people. So, and the DEA thought this was a big enough problem that the former head of the DEA in Mexico, Arpaio, great guy, they gave it to him. So yeah, when I came out in 2016 and said the NSA spying on Trump, the New York Times said that's insane, Jones is crazy. Remember that in CNN? But they just said Jones made it up. No, I didn't make it up.

18:32 I got a classified NSA phone number database of total digital, 24 hour digital wiretap. They don't put a recorder on the landline, it's digital through the AT&T. So yeah, I know a little bit about this because I was targeted by these guys. Because I mean, who was big fighting the globalists in 2016? Who was, as they said in the news, infecting the Republican Party with anti-globalism conspiracies, remember? Globalism doesn't exist. Jones is insane. Trump's insane. No, Arpaio was being spied on. A few members of Congress that were exposing it were being spied on. Remember, it was a big scandal. Trump was being spied on, and not many others. I mean, I was given the people being spied on.

19:22 Our PIOS people were very thorough. They blacked out the back ends of the phone numbers, but I didn't show all these other people's names on there, just the public figures. They were basically all public figures. And so yeah, I know a little bit about Crossfire Hurricane because I was being attacked before. We don't know the code name of that operation. But DEA whistleblowers thought enough of this being illegal to give it to us. So yeah, I know about it and I got it to Trump as well, and nothing was ever done with it. Roger Stone saw it and said, my God, they've got all his private landlines at Mar-a-Lago, at Trump Tower, his office line, his bedroom line, his private apartment at Mar-a-Lago line. I had Roger on about at the time, he goes, yeah, those are Trump's private numbers, yeah.

20:18 So I know a little bit about it. And we ought to dig up those documents we posted on him for us. But we get attacked so much, a huge thing like that just becomes like, yeah, okay, chop liver, it's big deal, grow up, you can take it big boy. Well, yeah, I can take it because I expect all this to happen taking these people on. So Trump is doing so much good on so many fronts, under so much attack. And I understand exactly why he's so pissed off and knows they wanna create a whole new giant fiasco with the garbage that they left in those files about Trump and people in his orbit as a time bomb. And it's a campaign deal, and then they get it and it's a setup and Trump sees red and is obviously overworked and just gets completely pissed off. It's then the horrible responses and the flip-flopping and the 180 and all of it.

21:20 He must appoint a special counsel, which I broke first, he wants. I've talked to folks that were there with Trump, he said no, he wants one. DOJ, I told you on Monday. And then on Tuesday, Solomon said I met with the president and he wants a special prosecutor. Yes, and the word is they're looking at Ed Martin, he's the best. Talk about tough and courage and smart. 20 something years. So that is so important. And then I start seeing the reports to Congress because those are the actual data. And those are always a couple months behind. So as of two months ago, they found 30,000, that has actually rescued them. Not just when they said, we found 87,000 where they are, of the 300 plus thousand missing under Biden that they snuck in. So two months ago it was 30,000. In the first few months they rescued 10,000.

22:26 I don't know what it is now, but it was exponential 10,000 and then 30,000 two months ago. We just now learned the reports in Congress on Tuesday. I just saw it today, 30,000. That's good with 5,000 agents. That's real good. And so I'm looking at that and I'm going, that is real action. And now you've got the DOJ And now you meeting with HHS, you're like, why does that matter? It wouldn't be ice. No ice was told for an half years ago. You no longer can look for ID anything. Everybody shreds or IDs on the other side. So we find them everywhere on the border and then they just give them an envelope with the phone number that the coyotes give them. And then that's the human smuggler they send them to. And around 70% of the time they're sent

23:17 with basically no information where they're going. And we've had the whistleblowers on there on the airplanes, delivering as young as three month old babies to convicted human traffickers and pedophiles. And that's not just counting all of the pedophile arrests happening that are exponential. So I look at that and I look at a 96% drop in smuggling across the border. They basically cut it off. I'm really blown away that it's that successful, very impressive. I mean, these federal agents are not sitting around playing ping pong or eating donuts. And I'm told and I've seen it from my sources that they are just 18 hour days, maximum output, guzzling energy drinks, just operating on testosterone and adrenaline. And because Trump has told them through their bosses, you got quotas, you do it or you're fired.

24:20 You get massive arrests and massive kids saved, you get bonuses, you get promotions, you get overtime, you get everything. So, I mean, you watch these raids, I've seen them outside the office, ran into one a few weeks ago. I mean, these feds are just running around like hunting dogs, just grabbing, I mean, it's... I mean, this is what you're supposed to see going on. Real energy. So... I mean, I drove in the office like two weeks ago. I told the story, I didn't want to get out in the middle of it. And I mean, I'm talking 300 yards from the door to the office. They got a Fed vehicle and then you got a state police there backing them up and the Feds are wearing masks and they're literally running back and forth. And they're packing like six people out of the back of this truck, a King Cab truck. And they're illegal, it looks like illegal alien males. And the Feds, because I pulled over the parking lot and watched them for about five minutes.

25:23 were just running back and forth and just checking them. It was like they were sped up or something. You watch those kung fu movies and they speed up the fighting. I was just like, good God, running around like piranhas. So I don't know what they're giving them, but. So this is a change. The bad guys hate Trump. I will not apologize for going completely ape on him about this. Steve Bannon agreed today, total disaster the way Trump handled all this. Just blood in the water, give our enemies a giant present. And I'm gonna attack Trump when he makes mistakes to protect him and our agenda. Because the globalists, if they get back in power, we don't dismantle them, they're gonna put my ass in prison or worse. I mean, this is life and death for me. Steve Bannon said on the show a few weeks ago, he said, yeah, we're gonna have to leave the country.

30:00 But Marine Comey that runs the pedophile coverups with limited hangout cases just got her ass fired today. Her dad controlled the main Epstein file on record going back to at least 2013 and then whenever Lawsuits got filed, we're bringing out all this stuff on Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell and P. Diddy. They go in and indict them but have a limited investigation and then put a bunch of error in there so later their convictions will be overturned. And everybody's been beating the drum. Why is Marine Comey still at the FBI? Fear is the tool of a tyrant. Fired federal prosecutor Marine Comey tells colleagues, you're the tyrant witch and your father.

30:54 Your father put me under national security investigation in 2013 and tapped all my phones. You're the threat to national security. The idea that I would work for a foreign government. The idea I would take money against my country, you scum. You hate America, filth. Burn in hell. You are the traitor. You are the enemy. Not me. I hate your guts. They have run all the lawfare and the attacks on my family and everything else. They've stalked me, they've attacked me and my crew. They tried to put me in prison and put Owen in prison. You are monsters. You are the tyrant. You are the plague. You are the enemy. You are the danger to our republic. Not me. You persecuted me and countless other patriots.

32:00 And I pray to God you get your ass indicted and get a nice fat ass fair trial in your ugly witch hag ass thrown in prison for 50 years. I pray to God. And I don't want anybody to be violent to her or any Fauci or her dad or Brevin or Clapper or any of them. Only thing they can do to try to save their bacon is false flag themselves and play victim. You attack me, you attacked America, you attacked the truth.

32:37 I mean, I can't even remember all the stuff they've done to us. It's insane. They have had intelligence agencies, private cut out intelligence agencies, attempted sex operatives, attempted setting me up with Russian money so I wouldn't expose it to the FBI. Told them with their face, with law firm letters and everything that I know they're behind it. And of course they were. The Russians, we're Russians, we want to give you $3 million. And then it was someone sent by the former Obama Attorney General. And you don't think we know how to find out this stuff. You send a law firm that it turns out is the CIA to come to Trump Hotel and offer me a contract and just here's $3 million. I'm a loyal American, I know why you're here and what you're doing. You think I'm this stupid? That's just one of the times. And these passive aggressive people

33:58 I mean, the idea that I would take money from a foreign government to betray my country. I get persecuted and attacked constantly for fighting for my country. I am not for sale. I already sold out to Jesus Christ. That's my boss. That's who I work for. And I love this country. I am an American. And there are hoaxes that people like Donald Trump's anti-American and that Donald Trump works for the Russians, or that Donald Trump gets pissed on, or just all of it is so ridiculous. Donald Trump could have been the Democrat president. He didn't wanna work for them. He wants to run the whole show, and now he pretty much does. He'll just run the first time and take the top slot right away. He's not gonna work for you. That's not his nature, and it's not mine either. You see, this country's about a meritocracy, and it's where I can be the captain of my ship

35:05 And people through free will can work with me and listen to me and support me and be part of what we do together. And if you don't like what I do, when I stand for good, go do something else. It's called being an individual. And that's why when Trump comes out and says, you're not part of MAGA and we don't want you and you don't deserve to be part of this, talk about me, I'm now confirmed mainly. And then later, well, I'm just disappointed in him. Alex, I'm disappointed in you. I'm disappointed in you. And your real friends will tell you when you're doing something wrong, Mr. President. If you want a bunch of people to tell you what you want to hear and kiss your ass, you're in the wrong game. And he doesn't like that. He actually likes people challenging him. First thing Roger Stone ever told me when I was talking to Trump off air, he was like, well, when he calls you, he's running. Remember, he doesn't like sick of people who kiss his ass, telling him what you really think. And I went, well, don't worry, Roger, I've never done that with you. He's like, no, I'm like, yeah.

36:12 Imagine Trump sends him to go get the files. There's a bunch of made up stuff about him in there and other people. And he went, oh my God, they set us up. And then instead of coming out and just saying all that, he's like, drop it, shut it down. They're behind it, it's crap. Just trust me. But he didn't even say that for the first week. He just said nothing ever happened. This is all BS, move along. People go, well, that's the DOJ. That's not Trump. No, it was him. And I told you it was him and it was him. He admits it was him. And now the Democrats are in full court press on this. We need a special prosecutor last month, and we need one of the highest integrity. And then the one FBI agent that got convicted and sent to prison in the whole Durham report Russiagate thing, remember he falsified an email. Well, you just prosecute the FBI agents under Comey when Trump was attacking Obama

37:23 that were starting to stick stuff in files and trying to look for dirt on Trump. And now they've shoved that in there. There's no proof, there's no real people, there's nothing. You just prosecute their ass, you lean into it. It's like when they planted child porn on us, and they subpoena our emails, and they get hundreds of thousands unopened ones. And then they call them go, we found child porn in email you turned over in discovery. We wanna meet when you would work this out. And I went,

38:01 My lawyers are like, yeah, they said this could kind of come to a close now. It was time to come work for them, one of many offers just in that case. And I said no, and I went on air and went crazy. Why should I be intimidated that I was sent unopened emails that had hidden metadata, children being raped on it, we never opened it, then they subpoena with all the keywords. and then tell the world that I sent child porn to the Sandy Hook families. Bloomberg, AP Reuters, that nasty son of a bitch. I had people threaten to at me at gas stations the week after that. You son of a bitch sending that to those families. I ought to... And I just sit there and stare at them and I go, you better turn around and get in your truck right now. What? What? What? You! What? You! You! You! I what? I what?

39:11 So, I mean, it's just what goes on with these people. And then the FBI actually gave us a letter, we didn't even ask for it, saying no, Alex Jones and Infowars are the victims of this. They are not sending child porn around. You sue me, we got 10 million emails in there. We're not hiding anything, we never even deleted them going back years. 300 and something thousand have dozens of keywords. And it's somebody attacking us and threatening us two days after we got sued in Connecticut. The emails had the child porn in it. And then hidden images and videos in the metadata that when they sued and got it, they scanned all of it and went and found that. It was very lucky they did that. I'm not saying they were involved planting it or anything. Certainly not. But

40:11 Remember Cheryl Atkinson, the big investigative journalist, still a huge one, integrity. The feds felt so guilty about it that the good feds let them know, hey, they've been trying to plant child porn on your husband. That's their go-to. And so these very same people, these deep staters that ran all this, Comey, Brennan, all of them, that I've been specifically targeted by with Trump on record. You go watch a movie like Enemy of the State with

40:52 Will Smith and Gene Hackman, it's a great movie. You're like, my God, they're spying on him, it's so evil. But then it actually happens to you and the president, everybody's like, yeah, well, it's no big deal, it's just how it is. See, this isn't a movie, folks, this is the real world. So I want Trump, and it's already happening. I said this last week, I said, they really indict the globalists and keep saving the kids and all that, and keep the border shut down. In the aggregate, it's thousands of times, 100,000 times bigger than Epstein's intelligence operation. If whatever reason, then of the resources or it's old cases or whatever, people aren't going to buy it, but I understand it. I understand the thinking. But for God's sakes, don't tell us that it never existed and these aren't the droids you're looking for. Move along. Just please, you cannot

41:57 Say something worse to make everybody think you're guilty, Mr. President. And I know you're pissed off. Well, thank God you started telling us on Sunday. No, it's Brennan, it's Clapper, it's Comey, which did control the file on record. That's already known. And of course they would do something like that. I mean, I don't even think it's a question. Of course they did. So special prosecutor needs to go through it all. They need to bring it out. And it's gonna be FBI interviews 2013, 2014 when Obama's targeting Trump at first with the original Jane Doe's. They knew he was gonna run for president. They had his phones tapped and they were trying to find something and then they rolled those Jane Doe's out right before the election. But it turned out they weren't even real people. Remember all that? That's what's in there. Trump ought to come out and have a damn press conference about it and stay directly and say we're gonna invite your asses for this.

42:57 And then indict them and then bring in all the FBI agents that raided all the Epstein facilities and took away all the hard drives and DVDs and say, where is that or we're gonna indict you? Where'd you take that? Where'd you take that? Because that was the Democrats doing that. That was Comey, the big one, the daddy. And we now know from the documents from the CIA that indeed they ran it and went and paid Steele and gave it to the DNC. It wasn't Hillary, I mean she was part of it, but it wasn't the DNC, they just pushed it. And Seth Rich knew about that and you saw what happened to him. So I'm not throwing the baby out with the bathwater. People say, well, this is paradoxical. You're really pissed off at Trump, but at the same time he's important. Well, of course, it's like anything in this world. But at the end of the day, I want to play this clip because this is just an example of what I'm talking about. They now have the testimony and they now have the newest reports that are in two months old, 30,000 children

44:11 in sex slavery and in slave labor have been found and rescued. 87,000 again six months ago were identified where their last address was and who they were given to. And you ask why are you having Robert F. Kennedy Jr. so much with Ed Martin there at the DOJ and his new 800 person billion dollar funded task force of government weaponization? It's because HHS under Biden took control of the records of where the kids went and the Border Patrol and ICE wasn't even allowed to know that was covering up the trail. So now he's gone and given that database to Ed Martin, you can imagine what's going on. And that's why Congressman Clay Higgins, who's awesome and former law enforcement, is letting these NGOs know that's who you go after next. And then it goes right to the top, Mayorkas, get ready to be wearing orange jumpsuits.

45:08 And I'm sorry, it's 35,000 rescued children and that number is two months old. You're gonna go, why isn't it new? Statistics take time, they're always a few months behind. So that is great and I am so excited about it and praise God. So we're seeing real action and we got Marine Comey fired by the DOJ overnight. We've got her already whining and calling Trump a tyrant. That is wonderful. You've got Kennedy purging the big government corporate run Pfizer, Eli Lilly, Johnson & Johnson boards putting in patriots and real scientists. You've got them firing more people today that are globalists. We'll be getting to that. Maha Shekhab, HHS Secretary of the Army, Jr. fires two top staffers and appoints new acting chief of staff. It's on.

46:04 And then you get bad stuff like the DOJ, Federal Court, class action suit, FDA wants it out, HHS wants fluoride out. Well, we're appealing that we wanna keep it in. Well, we're gonna find out who's behind that. We know it's the American Chemical Council that Bondi is connected to. And if that continues, I'm gonna go ape. So I'll just call balls and strikes. But as the dust settles, I've really been able to think about this and It's okay, I spent four hours on the Epstein thing yesterday and three hours there before, but, and we'll take calls, you can talk about it. But I'll cover every angle, but I'm gonna limit it, how much I cover it, just to the basic facts that come out, because we've gotta look at everything else that's going on here. And that's why Trump is in general pissed off, I get it. He's got big fish to fry, like saving the economy, the trade deal, stopping the wars, all of it, I get it.

47:10 But if you don't indict and go after the deep state, which he supports, they're never gonna go away. They're gonna keep attacking and blocking. He just won the big victory over the Article 3 courts, trying to be dictators. I mean, you know, we have exciting stuff going on right now. And Chelsea Clinton and the Clintons and the Obamas and all of them sycophantically around Comey, they're losing their power by the minute. They're politically burning down in front of our faces. And that's a hallelujah moment. All right, let's go ahead and go to Congressman Hagan is talking about the good news. And according to my research, which will very soon be revealed next week, they've rescued so far 35,000 tender age kids. How do you like that? Now, according to Ms. Hopper's research, which I find fascinating, everybody up here should, 70%

48:11 of the documentation turned in by so-called sponsors, which were lined up by who? NGOs, through who? Primarily HHS. It was a pipeline, man. We fed a pipeline of tender age children into sex trafficking and slave labor into our country We're finding these kids, we're tracking this fraudulent documents. You're right, Ms. Hopper. My research showed a little bit less, 65%. You said 70%, I'll go with 70. So be advised, be advised.

48:54 We are building out case files, criminal case files. We're interviewing these 35,000 kids and we're finding out exactly what the hell happened. How they ended up in the nightmare where they were and we're rescuing more and there's nothing anybody can do about it. We're going to identify these children, we're locating these children, we're rescuing these children. And we're building out criminal files based upon a testimony of these young teenagers and the documentation of fraudulent vetting and many of these NGO employees are going to find themselves wearing orange, be that new favorite color. Mr. Chairman, I appreciate the indulgement, I yield. Remember three years ago, the New York Times just to cover its ass did a couple big reports with thousands of children as young as nine, on average 14, in tire factories, cereal factories, grain processing factories, textile plants.

50:01 And nothing against the North and places like Michigan and Illinois, but you notice you don't ever see this in the South. Just because there's still Christian values and there's some of it, but not much. It's in Illinois, it's in Michigan, it's in California, and they're raping these kids too. And they're not even going to school. They're sleeping on mats. And then it turns out that, you know, the cute little girls are getting told, hey, you can go do this. And they're being pimped out. I mean, this is some, and this is the New York Times three years ago. I mean, this is holy macro moment. We're gonna go to break. I'm gonna come back and get into the Genius Act and the Central Bank Digital Currency Trojan Horse. It's so important. We shot down the AI takeover. We're gonna shoot this down together.

58:22 Sunset Boulevard in Pacific Palisades being obliterated, causing severe air pollution in Los Angeles. The crisis was compounded by water supply issues as 20% of fire hydrants in the more elevated parts of Pacific Palisades ran dry. The containment efforts reached only 8% by January 31st of 2025 after 24 days of battling an inferno that seven months later is still being investigated as arson. In the aftermath, Governor Gavin Newsom signed Senate Bill 549 into law. This legislation grants Los Angeles County the authority to purchase fire-destroyed lots at minimal cost, a decision that directly contradicts Newsom's

59:12 previous statements to homeowners that government-driven property conversions would not. I was just talking to Josh Green, the governor of down in Hawaii, who had some ideas around some land use concerns he has around speculators coming in, buying up properties and the like. So we're already working with our legal teams to move those things forward and we'll be presenting those in a matter of days, not just weeks. The bill mandates that from January 2026, 40% of the housing in affected areas must be affordable.

59:47 and it establishes a, quote, resilient rebuilding authority, end quote, that overrides local community decisions on rebuilding efforts. This strips away local control, likely displacing original homeowners who don't fall under the criteria of Section 8 recipients and enables rezoning without their input. The people that are in charge of this bill, they're the people in charge of letting the whole town burn down, okay? You can say whatever you want. But all their decisions, all their negligence, all that, that's why we have no town in the Palisades. Why will we ever have them in charge of rebuilding what they let burn down? With SB 549, the authority can buy back land and offer it first to original owners. But if they cannot afford it, they lose their homes permanently. Setting the table for Smart LA 2028, led by the City of Los Angeles'

1:00:46 Information Technology Agency, a government technocracy that is building the 2028 Olympics on the charred remains of its citizens' homes. Technology enables the City of LA to efficiently and ethically improve the quality of life for our residents, businesses, and visitors. In other words, when done right, technology makes us smarter. That's why the City of Los Angeles strives to be a smart city. And there's never been a more important time for Los Angeles to be smart than now, as we prepare to host the world in the 2028 Summer Olympics and Paralympics.

1:01:25 Meanwhile, the LA Rises public outreach campaign launched by the survivors to support recovery efforts is undermined by Newsom's policy shifts which prioritize government control over the restoration of homeowner rights and local autonomy. What they're proposing is a separate government entity to be comprised of political appointees, not people elected by you. who would have centralized authority over construction permitting, development, land acquisition, and other key decisions that will shape the future of the Palisades. In this brave new world, the people of Pacific Palisades are not rebuilding their lives. They are being rebuilt by a government that ignored their cries for help.

1:02:12 and sees opportunity in their suffering, an opportunity with motive. It's like California's being run by a criminal operation and the goal is the biggest land grab in the history of the United States of America. But the question isn't whether this was planned, it's whether the people of California will stand idly by as their homes, their rights, and their futures are consumed by the same fire that started it all. Their time to take a stand is today. and it isn't tomorrow. John Bowne reporting for InfoWars. Because most of the welfare illegal aliens has been cut off by Doge and the Trump administration beautiful that's coming up FBI opens grand conspiracy probe on weaponization opening door to special prosecutor I'm told that appointment is imminent could be as early as this week and then there'll be another one on Epstein as well I say combine the two because it's all connected Marine Comey the cover-up artist on the ground for her dad controlling the Epstein file has been fired more on that and

1:03:28 And we just aired, if you missed it, some stations don't carry the first five, a John Bowne report on the Pacific Palisades. And I'm gonna get more into that. The article's up on Infowars.com with the video from John Bowne. Another conspiracy theory comes true. California bill passes to buy fire-ravaged Palisades for low-income apartments and pay you a fraction of what your property's worth. They have issued, get ready for this, out of Tens of thousands of homes destroyed, less than 10 permits to rebuild. But you remember the press conference back in January, late January, right when Trump got in with the communist mayor, I mean she mentioned the communist work for Cuba, intelligence agent Bass. And people say, we haven't been given permits, we need to be able to get in there. And she goes, you'll get permits this week, they've issued

1:04:28 Eight permits, and of course it's select rich people that are gonna be able to keep their house that are insiders. Tens of thousands of destroyed properties, you can't rebuild, we're gonna rezone it, we're gonna pay you 10% of what it's worth. The governor runs the task force, all his buddies get the job, and they already passed two years before to make it a UN smart city grid in the Palisades, the most expensive real estate in the United States. After Lahaina in Maui burned, This is administrative mass murder as I told you the day after the fires. They drained the reservoirs, they blocked the testing of the fire hydrants, they wouldn't send fire trucks the first night. They left the power lines on, they didn't trim the brush around the power lines for years. They had it all set up, they knew exactly what they were doing. And because the crime is so outrageous, people just can't even wrap their minds around it.

1:05:41 Well, I didn't just wrap my mind about it. You can go find the clip. We played it back when it happened crew found it I looked at how they were burning down, California and other key areas and blocking first responders and antifa caught in 2020 member catching fires everywhere The media would try to cover it up. They'd have fact-checkers say didn't exist Those in local news the police were arresting them leftist professors or burning everything down their accelerationist They were collapsed society Clark Pippin I said back at the time when they burned down Maui, Lahaina, I said, man, where's the other most expensive stuff? And I looked it up, it was the Palisades. And I said, I bet in the next few years, they burn down the Palisades. And now we know it was leftist arsonists on top of the power lines falling and creating a big fire line, just like Maui. Hundreds of videos of leftists running around starting fires everywhere. Just psychotic, demon possessed,

1:06:55 They can't have a nice house, so it can burn. But the reason they targeted the Palisades is it wasn't all just $10 million, $20 million, $20 million, $50 million homes. It was where you have it right next to houses built in the 20s, 30s, and 40s, generationally handed down. We had cops and firefighters and coffee shop owners and black, white, Hispanic, old, young, who've been handing down those houses that are two, three bedroom cracker boxes, but are worth two, three, $4 million. And then they pull the insurance a few months before on almost everybody. And now, sorry, if you can afford to rebuild and wait all these years, maybe we'll let you rebuild. You can jump through all these hoops. But remember, Bass, that we ought to find that. Well, let's do it later. I don't want to give the number out and take calls too and cover a bunch of other news, it's important. But try to find Trump, Karen Bass press conference

1:08:09 Building permits and it's like an hour long and Trump's arguing with her and she's lying But but it's it's the Trump was let's take questions from the homeowners here the property owners They're like it's been weeks and you and we're not even allowed areas and where do we get the permits? Oh, you're getting permits. You're getting them soon. Well, we're told it's gonna be a year. Oh, no No, no, no, it'll be a week. Remember she said and Trump goes I'm gonna hold you to that. It's so dramatic and here we are six months later and Did you find it is if that's it we'll play right now and they've given out less than 10 permits Is that the clip? Did you guys find it? They're pulling in right now. They found a good sorry to this on the fly poor crew then I'm like give it to me give it to me give it to me. It's like Robin, where is like pulling stuff up like 15 seconds. I'm like, that's not fast enough so

1:09:14 It's just, people go, I mean, remember back in the time, Elon Musk is insane. CNN, MSNBC, ABC News, he's reposting Alex Jones' insane rant that this is a 15-minute city and that Newsom's gonna come take it over with the task force and take everybody's property and build this new smart city and make money for his buddies and that it was all premeditated, totally insane. Yeah, we ought to find those MSNBC and CNN, like five minute clips where it's all the same script. He's totally nuts. He's claiming this was all premeditated. He's claiming they drained the reservoir. He's claiming they didn't cut the tree. And then they go, look, these reservoirs were full and they show you reservoirs 20 miles away.

1:10:06 Not the fire reservoir above the Palisades built for that, drained two months before. They claim for maintenance but it turned out it wasn't maintenance. They ordered the son of a gun drained. I mean, it ain't hard folks to figure this out. But see, can you handle the truth? I specifically said when they burned down Maui a few years ago, I bet they burned down the Palisades next. Catherine Austin Fitz, who I learned about this from 25 years ago, that's how long I've been interviewing her. She was the deputy head of HUD, $40 billion under management, you know, all of it. She was already hearing about this technocracy and how they would administratively do this. And then she discovered a decade ago how they, uh, some antifa files got leaked, how in key cities in 2020, Minnesota, you name it, they would send antifa to lead the mobs to burn certain buildings

1:11:12 that were people that wouldn't sell that the globalists wanted. I mean, that's how incredibly scientific these people are. I mean, they set this sucker up. It would be less obvious if in high noon on a Saturday while my neighbors are mowing their yard, I got a five gallon can of gas and they see me on the roof pouring gasoline on it. And then I light it on fire and the fire department gets there and then neighbors run over, he's crazy, we saw him burn it down. I go, that's completely insane, even though They have the witnesses. I mean, that is less obvious than what Newsom, Patrick Bateman in the flesh is done. And he's the Pelosi Democrat crime boss. But this was all set up, this was all planned. They had it all lined up again. I have a good friend who was in rehab in December in Maui. Not in Maui, in what's the name of the thing right there on the coast? I'm having one of those moments.

1:12:26 What's the part of LA that's right there on the beach? It drives me crazy when I can't think of the most simple things. I have a good friend who was out in Los Angeles in December at a rehab for alcohol and I remember the friend calling me and saying, yeah, I've been here 20 days. I'm sober. It's great but I may have to leave because the electricity is off for days because I had to turn it off because of 50 mile an hour winds, we go for fires and

1:13:09 It's crazy, there's been no power for two days because they can't turn it on because the power lines fall down, it'll burn all the brush. And I looked it up, it was on the news, and there were hundreds of power cuts in the months before this with high winds in LA in different areas. But when 80 mile an hour winds come in, they leave the power on. I mean, come on people. It's just, it's so crazy. But see, it's the perfect crime, drain the reservoir, don't send the fire trucks that night. They said we didn't send extra fire trucks, we send them the next morning. That's on record. And everything else they did, not trimming the brush for years, the fire department begging for it, cutting the fire department, putting DEI people, they're totally incompetent in charge. So I know what's going on. And then administratively burning that sucker to the ground. And then I said he's gonna appoint a task force, them at the head. He's a declared disaster, he's above the law, and they're gonna build

1:14:12 compact 15 minute city, high rises, 200 square foot coffin apartments, because that's in the UNESG. And now it's all announced, exactly as I said. Here is the clip back from six months ago, her with Trump saying, yeah, we're gonna give you the permits right away. And of course, it was all a lie, here it is. We're bringing our city departments together so that people don't get caught in the loop of going from one room to the next. We want them all to be in the same room so that you can get busy rebuilding ASAP. Absolutely. Yes, yes. And we will clear the lots. Absolutely. In the city and in the county. We are working together. Both levels of government are working in unity.

1:15:11 and the Florida engineers had it be 18 months. Is it not 18 months? Is it like, that's the answer that we got and that's what we're all hanging on. So if you're telling us now faster, is it six months? Is it, I mean, all of our lives, rents, all this stuff is weighing on this. Six months is no good. And the number one thing that we are going to do immediately, and you will see this happen, is to clear out the debris. And you know we're concerned right now over the weekend because of the potential rain, but we are going to move as fast as we can. But we want you to be safe and we want you to be back in your homes immediately. But the people are willing to clean out their own debris. It doesn't cost a lot. Yes, and they can. You should let them do it because by the time you hire contractors it's going to be

1:15:58 two years. If if a family people are willing to get a dumpster and do it themselves and clean it out and they can't. There's not that much left. It's all incinerated. That's right. And you know, it's just going to take a long time if you do. You can do some of it. But a lot of these people I know that guy right there that's talking. I know my people. You'll be on that thing tonight. throwing the stuff away and your site will be it'll look perfect within 24 hours. And that's what he wants to do. He doesn't want to wait around for seven months till the city hires some demolition contract. That's going to charge him $25,000 to do his lot. I think you have to you have emergency powers just like I do. And I'm exercising my emergency powers. You have to exercise them also. I did exercise them. I looked. I mean, you have a very powerful emergency power and you can do everything within

1:16:49 24 hours. Yes, and if individuals want to clear out their property they can. Yes, but you know that you will be able to go back soon. We think within a week. That's a long time a week. I'll be honest to me that everyone standing in front of the house they want to go to work and they're not allowed to do it. And the most important thing is for people to be safe. They're safe. They're safe. You know what? They're not safe. They're not safe now. They were going to be much safer. A week is actually a long time, the way I look at it. I watched hundreds of people standing in front of their lots and they're not allowed to go in. It's all burned. It's gone. It's done. Nothing's going to happen to it. It's not going to burn anymore. There's nothing to burn. There's almost nothing to burn.

1:17:41 And they want to go in there, but the people- Now we're six months later and I sent the crew this on Monday, but I just remembered it. There's all these videos of helicopters in on the beach and everywhere. Nothing's being built. No crews, nobody, still everything burned out. Many areas, they still don't let you clear things out. They won't even give them permits. Six months later, a lying monster And they told him six months to a year. And so they're like, hey, you gotta let it, oh, don't worry, immediately, next week. I mean, this is on purpose, people. And now they've done it. Another conspiracy theory comes true. California bill passes to buy fire-ravaged palisades for low income by triggering the bill and it ties into the ESG rules of the UN saying it'll be low-income housing. Well, it's for the poor. Well, now you don't get to build what you want. We'll build what we want.

1:18:41 And they've still done the same thing in Lahaina and Maui. Bill Gates and Oprah Winfrey had a big project to build a new Four Seasons. Bill Gates owns Four Seasons. He's the biggest owner of it. And the people voted and said no, and they burned their ass out a year later. Conspiracy theories thwart rebuilding plan after LA County wildfires. Yeah, we're gonna not let you build. We're gonna take your property. They're saying pay it 10% what it's worth. And then if you don't like that, it's a conspiracy theory that you're being raped, which you are, and you're thwarting the rebuilding. And notice the governor right after that did declare an emergency, as I said he would do, and covered up any investigations and put himself and his buddies in charge of what's gonna be built. And now they've announced big high rises, 200 square foot coffin apartments, a bunch of fancy apartments, a bunch of malls, a bunch of stuff for them.

1:19:47 With the how much has California gotten in federal money, something like $30 billion, they're getting all the rest of the money. So all that goes through Governor Newsom. If you remember during the COVID lockdowns, his ugly, disgusting, demonic aunt, I mean, ugly spiritually, she's also very ugly physically. Nancy Pelosi was still getting her hair done when wearing a mask, everybody else was locked down. And he kept his restaurant wineries all stayed open. And the photos got taken by waiters of them having big parties and none of them wearing masks at their venues. Boy, business was hopping there. That's what feudalism is.

1:20:32 You get to keep your businesses open, nobody else does. You know, George Washington was already very successful and the best surveyor and militia combat guy on the frontiers. By militia, they were fighting the Native Americans. And then the British, famous battle where he got, you know, a thousand troops shot at him for hours and couldn't hit him. He had holes all through his clothes, that's a true story. But he was so wealthy because he got so much land with a hatchet when he was a young man. And then he became one of the richest men at farming and hemp and everything else. But the Lord still wouldn't let him do business. He had to go through them. That's another reason for the war. Wasn't about the price of tea. All right, I want to give the number out. We won't have time to take a ton of calls because we've got this big FBI whistleblower, CIA whistleblower, CIA whistleblower exposing so much of the deep state, what's really going on with the Trump administration and more coming up in the

1:21:40 third hour, and then in the fourth hour, I've waited over a week and a half to air this because I've been so busy on all the other news. But what looks like cut and dry, in my opinion, money laundering, certainly incredible scandal. Not only the DOJ give money to the people that sued me, right when they sued me and then when they had the show trials, that's already come out. But now we know the law firm's billing never billed until the exact amount comes in from the DOJ. And then a week later, the exact amount is billed and then that's paid. I can tell you the Justice Department's looking at this, looking at themselves, because that's what they really want to look into. I was like, wow, I mean, I'm kind of controversial. I'm surprised you guys are reaching out to me. We're surprised you didn't reach out to us. No, we want to go after the corruption in our own system. Okay? And the arrogant people doing these attacks on me, they don't care. They just run headlong, just foaming at the mouth.

1:22:43 So that's coming up in the fourth hour. I mean, we did a 30 minute presentation with all the documentation and videos. And then there'll be a new update because they can't get the federal court to shut me down. They're now in the state court with a receiver and they want to be in here as early as the next few weeks. My lawyer said it could be yesterday, but anytime. And we've survived so much, people are like, you'll be all right. No, yeah, keep praying for us, but no, this is serious. I did the last receiver wrong and that got blocked by federal court and he committed suicide, very sad. I'm serious when I say that. Some people in the comments go, why are you sad with the person? I mean, it's sad. So a lot more coming up here today. And I wanna briefly obviously hit the emergency

1:23:42 power grab that's going on in the Genius Act. General Flynn's emergency, he reached out today, said, please get this out, so MTG, they've got the latest in the details, the subsections, I'm gonna hit that. And then I've got some other news I wanna hit, but we have this CA whistleblower, huge, coming up in the third hour. But I wanna take, let's put eight phone calls on the board, including the three people yesterday that got stuck on hold. If they gave us their number, we can call them back, on Trump. And a special prosecutor, as I took first broke on Monday, is gonna get appointed. It's a done deal now, it's being reported, the White House. And so what do you think of that? What do you think of my view that they're doing so much good saving all these kids with that home and the rest of it and mom and all the rest of it. And we understand they had the files, Comey and the rest of them. So I believe Trump that when they went to investigate what was being hidden, it's a setup. I mean, that makes perfect sense. I just say bring it out. Don't try to hide it and hope the scandal goes away, lean into it.

1:24:46 But we need mass indictments now. It's not enough to fire Marine Comey. That's a good start. And you notice we've been harping on it. Everybody's been harping on it. Why is she still there? She's gone. That's a no brainer. Why the hell was she still there? Toll free number to join us, 877-789-2539. 877-789-Alex. 877-789-2539. We're taking first time callers right now. First time callers only on Trump and the Epstein fiasco. 877-789-2539. Don't forget, we're listener supportive. We got great products and the new tactical dagger is selling out quick at thealexshowstore.com. You were just telling me that you had a brain disease and you, what did you do to fix it? I found this guy's a functional medicine guy and he got me on methylene blue and that instantly stopped everything. I'd take it. Okay. Yeah. I take it every day as well. And yeah, RFK Jr. told me about it. Yeah, man, it's fantastic.

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1:28:19 And Israel until recently was not the dominant lobbying force in the United States. It was the communist Chinese, the Black Rock Globalists, and the rest of it. But Israel really is, because the Democrats are in such disarray, trying a hostile takeover of the White House. And they basically have control of Middle Eastern foreign policy. And so I legitimately am concerned by the moves Israel's making and the things they're doing, because it is the most popular thing, the fastest growing thing. The majority of people around the world, the majority of Democrats, like 90% of them, close to half of Republicans now, hate Israel. And see, I know how to think second, third, fourth, fifth order consequences. A, I don't want the people in Israel to get blown up in a nuclear war. I don't hate them. I don't like their corrupt evil government. And

1:29:25 Israel is destroying itself in the world's eyes. And then I understand Israel's got thousands of nuclear weapons, not hundreds, and high-tech delivery systems, and the Samson option, people always go, God, they'll blow everybody up, but they can blow it up. That's called mad, we got it too. I'm just gonna call things as they are. People go, wait, he's defending Israel, now he's attacking Israel. I just look at the issue. Was attacking the Liberty trying to sink it to blame Egypt with LBJ nice? No, that was horrible and credible. My god the Jews old if somebody nukes them, they'll nuke them. It'll in the world Samson option. We call it mad My brain only works on being informed and covering things as they are But the biggest enemy of Jews worldwide is Benjamin Netanyahu and you know, you heard Michael Savage on two weeks ago He's pro-israel. He's an America first guy He doesn't call himself a Zionist but he's pro-israel and I admire Michael because he's so articulate and so smart on so many fronts I mean, you know and

1:30:32 And he said, no, I talked to top Israelis and top generals, all of them, and they say, Netanyahu's gonna get Israel destroyed. Because they're smart. They're not against Israel. They're not even against Israel expanding. What did Sabbath say? Take the foot off the gas? Yeah. If everybody that just says to the mountains of the sea, kill all the Jews, you understand that means nuclear war, right? Now, if I could hit a button right now and send all the Jews to Mars, I wouldn't do it.

1:31:10 But at the same time, I am extremely sick of the ADL and the left and just my whole career on air being called anti-Semitic if I say there's globalists and there's a World Bank and the Federal Reserve is private. Oh, that's a secret code word for Jews. Well, I mean, the Rothschilds, when they set up the Federal Reserve, was the only audit, owned something like 80% of the shares in it. So yeah, Jews own the Federal Reserve. Okay, you can't own something that shadowy and basically runs things and then get mad if I say Jews control the Federal Reserve. I mean, again, it's a fact. So, and boy, if Trump was so controlled by the Jews, why won't they cut interest rates? See, cuz the Jews aren't one block. I mean, the grassroots Jews are basically, a lot of them are leftists, some of them self hating, but what you can say is upset about it.

1:32:15 It's kind of pejorative, but that's just the term I would use. Everybody knows what that means. I'm going off on a jagger on one of your calls, but in general, when Israel gets attacked or Jews start to get attacked, almost all Jews line up together with solidarity to support their group. That's completely natural. It's tribal. It's normal. It's a survival mechanism. So yeah, Jews are one block when it kind of comes to Jews are being persecuted. That's kind of why Israel starting in 47 started bombing Jews in Spain, Portugal, Iraq, Syria, and a bunch of other countries. That's all declassified.

1:32:53 and blaming it on Muslims and on Nazis to make Jews move to Israel. So the real relationship is the different kleptocratic Jewish mafias setting up Jews in Israel for calamity and then staying in power to do that and then scapegoating Jews in general by it because Jews are smart on average, you know, they're not stupid but When it comes to this, they've got a real blind spot. Because I've sat there and explained this to prominent Jews off record and actually sold a bunch of them on it because they didn't know about it. And then I've seen the Jews go out and act on what I've told them. So it's not like they're just telling me what I want to hear. I see them change. So, you know, I just, I don't want to be in the position

1:33:52 of having to roll up my sleeves and really go after Israel. But man, Israel is going after our country and our sovereignty and has no right to run our country. And that's where I stand on it. Let's go to your phone calls and then I'll get into the genius hack and all the rest of it, some really big threats to freedom. But I mean, that's it. I legitimately care about everybody. I legitimately want prosperity and peace. I legitimately want to live in peace. And that's a whole other thing. I can't sit there and watch Israel be an ethno state and have rules on Jews can't marry non-Jews in Israel. And I'm like, fine, you're allowed to have an ethno-state. I'm not even saying people can't have that.

1:34:35 But then if some white Christians just want to be white separatists and preserve their culture, the ADL, the Jewish lobby and all of it attacks them and says they're Nazis. Well, why do you get to have an ethno state and white people can't? Or black people go and try to create their own thing. And you go, God, look at these racist black people over here. They've created their own community. Well, you've done it. You got nuclear weapons. I mean, it's the logic of it. Now there's Ben Gurion. So I just won't sit here and be lectured how I'm Adolf Hitler when

1:35:18 It would take me 10 hours to break down all the historical facts of the Jews feeding off the Jews in World War II with deals with Hitler. And of course, Hitler double crossed them all at the end. That's why Madeleine Albright's dad, one of the main Jews running the operations with Nazis rounding up Jews, he was at the top, Soros was at the bottom. You take people like Steve Pachinik, who's Jewish or half Jewish. I guess the dad's Catholic, the mom is Jewish, so it makes him Jewish. High level CIA at the time, a long time ago. Really smart guy, but

1:35:54 You know, he would go off on it all day long about how the Jewish leadership made a deal with Hitler and all this and knew about the persecution coming and had a deal to send to Palestine. But in the middle of it, the Germans lost control of North Africa and the Middle East. And they said, no, you're just gonna kill all of you now. And then they, of course, rounded up even in Paris, one of the Rothschilds was running a bank with all the stolen Jew money they took from their own people. And they killed them. So it's true, even a couple Rothschilds got killed. Oh, you mean Hitler double-crossed you? Yeah. You got out-criminaled. Rothschild. Try this. Try this game. Rothschild bad, Hitler bad. See, you're not supposed to go Rothschild good, Hitler bad, or Hitler good, Rothschild bad. No, Rothschild bad, Hitler bad. See how that works? Cyanide bad, arsenic bad.

1:36:55 It's bad to be shot with a shotgun. It's bad to be shot with a .357 Magnum in the head. It's bad to have diesel poured on you and it lit. It's bad to have gasoline poured on you and let's see. Everybody just thinks like there's two sides. No, there's never just two sides. Okay? So yeah, am I worried about the... I mean Soros is still alive and was helping round up Jews for the Nazis. And I'm just like, and then you fund groups call me a Nazi? Fuck off, man. Because I know all about Hitler and don't compare me to you and your boss.

1:37:32 That's why the Nazis don't like me because they love Hugo Boss uniforms and the formations and the geometry and the architecture. And it makes them feel powerful to see a bunch of mainly homosexual men in black uniforms marching around. Yeah, the Nazis were just, come on, come on. I just know too much. It's like Norman Barkley says, I've gone crazy, I just know too much. So no, I'm not a closeted anti-black person. I'm not a closeted anti-Hispanic. I'm not a closeted anti-Jew. But what I am is openly against racist black people, and that's not even most of them, but they're out there and I will not bow to them. And I won't bow to Jews trying to make me feel guilty to them. And I'm not going to bow to anybody. And I'm proud to be white. And there's only 7% of the world that's white. And there's all these movements to not be white and don't have a white wife. I mean, hell, if you love somebody that's another color, I'm attracted to people all colors. But my point is, is that by always telling me it's bad that I'm white all day, I'm like, well, hell, I better get some more white babies around here.

1:38:33 It's like I don't want the polar bears to go extinct. And I'm sick of hearing about how white people are bad all day. But just because I'm proud of myself and proud of my heritage doesn't mean that I don't like you because you're something else. I could admire what your culture has done. And anybody that says the Jews haven't produced a lot of science, music, literature, culture, and there aren't some very highly performing Jews out there is a liar. You know, the Nazis trying to, oh, there's not really high, you know, Jews aren't as smart as they say, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Oh, bullshit. Why has our whole religious world system come out of them? I mean, just knock it off. It is Judeo-Christian. Does it mean it's Jewish Christianity now? That's what they mean. No, I mean, it comes out of Abraham.

1:39:19 Christianity came right out from between the legs of Abraham and the abomination of Islam. And the Bible says this will be the abomination. So just stop. We're obsessed with the Jews and they're obsessed with themselves because there is something special, especially good and especially bad. Because anything that's... The more you can have a thousand horsepower car and you know how to drive it, it's great. If you don't know how to drive it, you'll get your ass wrapped around a telephone pole.

1:40:01 And that's when I'm telling the Jews, not as one mother group, but the ones, you know who you are, stop using psychological warfare, stop using black magic, stop using dirty tricks, stop it. Because you don't think about black magic? It comes back on the person that does it sevenfold. You don't think, and by magic, I mean in general, dirty tricks. You don't think I'm not pretty smart and don't know how to do a lot of really nasty stuff to you after what you've done to me? You don't think I don't know it's been your mafia that's been on top of my ass? But I never took your bait, did you? I warned you that you're gonna get your asses in a lot of trouble where you're going. And you're gonna conjure a new Adolf Hitler. It'll probably get us all killed. See, I'm smart enough to look ahead here. No, I'm actually Israel's best friend because I care about everybody. And if you think, those of you that think you're gonna blow the Jews up and they're not gonna take you with them, you're an idiot. But again, if I could blow the Jews up all right now and get away with it and add a button, I wouldn't push it.

1:41:07 Because that's not in God's plan. You start doing that, you know who's playing your part of. You're like, oh wait, you're saying they're with God? No, they're with a whole bunch of stuff. When God favors you, so does the devil. The more power I get, the more the devil comes a knocking and more of the temptation gets. So I know what the Jews have gone through because you know what? I'm exceptional. I'm powerful. So I recognize you've had a lot of exception, I have exception, and the Jewish lobby knows that about Northern Europeans, and they don't like competition, and that's why they're after him. So stop it. You don't want people at war with you. Stop attacking us, and we can figure out a future together, okay?

1:41:57 Knock it off right now. I'm just talking straight to you. Just like people think they're gonna kill the Jews and they're not gonna blow everything up. You think you're gonna at the end of the day really bring down white Christian Western civilization because the high IQs and the competition and you're threatened by it. You think, you don't think people don't see that? You don't think you haven't conjured something again? Stop it now. Or you're gonna get us all killed. Nazis need to stop it. The out of control Jewish supremacy need to stop it. All of you need to stop it. Now that's straight shooting. Alright, dammit, let's go to phone calls. Excuse me. Matt in Ohio, you're on the air, go ahead. Thanks Alex. Go ahead. I appreciate you, everything you do, and I'll get straight to it. I know that's your preference. We appreciate you brother, go ahead.

1:42:57 But this whole rollout by Trump is so out of character from him. Like where's his charisma, his finger on the pulse, and he's never on the wrong side of an 80-20 issue. I like to use Occam's razor when I think about these kind of conspiratorial questions and make the least amount of assumptions. I feel like the info isn't there or Maybe the info will break down social order as we know it. No one's talking. I mean, I mean He got mad because he was snuck attacked. He's like, yeah, I released it, investigated. And then of course, it's their file. He's like, I'm in there? What the hell? A new Russiagate? And then he just flips out about it. And when we see it looking like a new Trump, it sent shockwaves through people. And we were right to say this is scary. But I've confirmed now he's starting to understand this and hopefully stops doing what he's been doing. And then the special counsel's coming, so that's good news.

1:43:51 Yeah, I was going to say, no one's talking about the intelligence side of this. The FBI controls the criminal side and has the files on the criminal side, but like intelligence being clearly a part of this, if not us, Israel as well. And no one's talking about getting Tulsi and Radcliffe involved and to see their files on Epstein. But also what if it's a lot scarier than just trafficking and pedophilia? What if this goes into black magic, ritualistic behavior and... Oh, let me tell you something. Eyes Wide Shut isn't a movie, it's a documentary. You get in the upper echelons of money, you either got rich people that hide out and stay away from everybody or freaked out. I mean, the really rich people...

1:44:35 Or you got rich people that are devil worshipers. Devil worshipers, I mean hardcore, Luciferianism is all over the place. I've told the story, I'm not making it up, I've seen it folks. And that's when I was a teenager. So let me tell you. It is bad. I mean, I've been in eyes wide shut stuff. I've literally gotten out of that stuff 13 14 15. I was like god I get to date the beauty queen Oh God I'm 15 dating a college beauty queen and I was like another big mansion another helicopter pad and more another black magic ceremony And I was just like god almighty. They were trying to recruit me man. It's all over the place, bro I believe it. Oh, I see. I know it But how deep does it go and how prolific is it?

1:45:26 It's Luciferianism in elite rich circles. The Bible says the devil controls the elite, the principalities, the powers of the air. I mean, I would say Half the billionaires and their adjuncts in any elite area are doing sex rituals and black magic on a weekly basis. I mean, it's there are as many satanic real churches, not the fake, you know, idiot ones you see. They're all idiots, but you know, the little provincials, there are as many satanic ceremonies going on in a major city or in these elite rural areas, almost as much as there are church services going on.

1:46:11 You hear what I'm saying? Yeah, of course. Because this isn't like going down to the Baptist church and hearing the preacher speak and singing some hymns. There's sex a whole nine yards. Well, what would this information coming out do to social order? I just have this fear that Trump's trying to hide it because to maintain the status quo. Yeah, and I say let the chips fall where they may, justice be done but the heavens fall. And from all my research in MO, Trump would never put himself in the position of going to a black mass and doing the things they do. Most of it is at children, but

1:46:58 It's, you know, I mean, it's something else. I'll tell you that. I was never in the rituals. I got three or four times brought in and was like, I'm getting out of here. But I mean, gorgeous women, you know, and boom, I mean, it's ritualistic sex. It's what goes on and it's very seductive. And, you know, it's, where I grew up, you couldn't swing a stick in the dark and not hit it. So I appreciate your call. Good points. Andrew, thank you so much. You're on the air from Ohio. Go ahead. Hey, Alex. Glad to be talking to you. First time caller. Been listening about seven years or so to the program. Want to do a quick plug for your products. My wife and I have been taking the methylene blue for

1:47:46 a month or so now and what an amazing product. I feel like a completely different person. The energy levels are fantastic and no letdown. So, highly recommend it. And of course, talk to your doctor first because it can have some interactions. But wow, what an amazing product. That's fantastic. And we appreciate all the work that you're doing to expose some of what's going on in our society. I was calling to talk about the Epstein debacle and kind of just touch on a point of why the popular opinion is so insistent that we want some of this information to come out. And I think that I probably speak for a lot of people in saying that

1:48:40 We believe the Epstein situation is emblematic of a two-tiered justice system that employs one set of rules for certain people and another set of rules for the rest of us. Exactly, that's why people are so pissed. And it's all real, there's been all these cases, we know it. We know there's a cover-up, and then Trump won 80s. Well, yeah, and I agree with your last caller in saying that some of the things we've seen Trump doing in the last couple weeks is totally out of character. The flip-flopping back and forth, and it's somewhat unexplainable. One of the things that I have found...

1:49:28 with the Epstein situation is there are so many connections amongst the billionaires and the uber rich that aren't being talked about. Well, that's the thing is, look, they're bored. And so just like it came out in ancient medieval times, there was all this devil worship going on. It wasn't just the Inquisition was bad too, making it up. I mean, it was really, these people get bored, they're into it. It leads to this throughout history. Yeah, that's the scary thing. And of course I'm calling from Columbus, Ohio and most people don't know that Jeffrey Epstein spent significant amounts of time here in Columbus.

1:50:10 His connections with billionaire Les Wexner are extensive. Oh, he was definitely Wexner's Mossad for sure. And he was Mossad's CA as well. They don't let you operate unless you're a joint deal. MI6 heavily through Maxwell. And yeah, 100%. That's what this was. He was just a front man. He was just the Mater D. He was just the butler. Well, so what's interesting now is that some of these connections amongst the uber-wealthy and Jeffrey Epstein are still continuing on. Just yesterday I saw a news article that more business dealings have come out as behind some of the AI movements. The financiers behind them was Peter Thiel, Jeffrey Epstein, and Ehud Barak, former prime minister of Israel.

1:50:59 Well, absolutely. I mean, everybody's investing in AI. Have been for decades. Super interesting now is that there is a, the Prometheus data center that Intel is building is being put up here in New Albany, Ohio, which is home of Leslie Wexner and L Brands and the Limited. These are all Wexner's companies. Absolutely, we're out of time, but absolutely, it's intelligence operation. All right, we're going to start our number three, take a few more phone calls in the CIA whistleblower. And more. It's all coming up in hour number three. Remember, you're the Paul Reveres. Share the live feeds from Relog Shows on X now, now, now, now. I need support.

1:55:45 Yes, from Commie-fornia, Commie-fornia. I hate living here, sir. I'm going to jump right into it, going off of what you said before you took the first caller. The Mossad. The Mossad, I believe in the 70s and 80s, used a term called Browning. And that Browning term was anybody in power in the Senate, judicial, you name it. You would just like the movie and the Godfather, they wake up, the senator would wake up and realize a child was in their bed. So I definitely agree upon you on that and they're doing the same thing I believe to Trump.

1:56:21 What immediately needs to be done, he didn't learn this his first term, is everybody around him is still the deep state. And those same advisors, those same DC lawyers that have been in the swamp forever, and they're just keeping them busy. They're just keeping them busy until his term's over, and then they're gonna get right back in and hit us with even more lockdowns and whatever they have planned for us to get us into that state. So what he needs to do immediately is

1:57:08 listening and posting stuff like that when he starts researching those people around him. What I mean is maybe having a show and touching, look at this is his cabinet members by name. They were doing this back in the 80s. They were with the neocons and that's who those people are and that's who he's listening to. He's getting still false information. We found out that when we had that missile attack and he ordered that. That was all fake information. But wait a minute, Ben Shapiro said that the Israeli Prime Minister told him that Jonathan Pollard's the only Israeli spy in US history. They don't spy on us and eat your bunnies real too.

1:57:44 Oh, exactly. That's the whole... and the Mossad has been doing this and now they're infiltrating. That is our number one threat right now to the United States of America is being conquered within. Well, Ben Shapiro said don't listen to me. He has almost no audience now. People totally woken up to him. And then he goes around dictating, telling people not to listen to me. I mean, it's just he's an idiot. And he literally is a mouthpiece of Netanyahu. I believe it's we the people, not the one. We the people that make those decisions. Yeah, and certainly again, I don't want the Chai Koms running us, I don't want the British running us, and I don't want Israel running us. It's just Israel wouldn't put up with that crap from us, so quit treating us like a doormat.

1:58:33 And then the special counsel, I believe we've been down this road before with a special counsel. How many years is that going to take? Is the statute of limitations going to be up by then? You know, it's already up. But there's not a conspiracy in that. And that's the new FBI grand conspiracy probe. We'll see. They fired Cummings' daughter today. So, I mean, I hear you. I'll say this, I'm not telling her about a cover up, I don't want him to. But for God's sakes, if he's gonna try to move on from this for whatever reasons, he's gonna bring down the economy or whatever, not endorsing it, but I could get the reasoning, at least understand why that has some logic. Then stop saying don't look at it and stop saying there's nothing there. That makes it 10 times worse. A special counsel, I think an Ed Martin I would trust. And then I think we can really get to the bottom of it and use it against the Democrats because they're the ones into it up their eyeballs. Thank you, Jeff. We got the CIA whistleblower. Then I'll continue on with your phone calls after he leaves us. Stay there. We'll be right back. All right. I've been following John Kiriakou for over a decade longer.

1:59:30 since the deep state because he quietly privately tried to get them to stop illegally torturing people when he was the head of counterterrorism in Afghanistan and in other areas. So I'm gonna wear him since that happened, however many decades ago it was and getting targeted by the Bushes and all the rest of them. And I've read a lot of his writings and I have just from the other day, I actually had one of his books I read years ago, he's a best-selling author as well. And we've done a couple good interviews with him, but man, I saw him on Tucker. I saw him on some other interviews and I was like, wow, I want to get that guy on because I was kind of guiding it with the questions I had at the time about Iran and where that was going. But he has had experiences. And again, I'm not on a jag here to attack Israel and just obsess on that all day.

2:00:19 And I don't believe that again Israel previously was a dominant force other than our foreign policy in the Middle East, which General Wesley Clark and others exposed. We already knew it. Project American Century, Israeli neocons, US neocons, Rumsfeld, Wormser, all of them, won to take down in just five years seven countries. Well, here we are 25 years later, or 24 years later, and they've gotten six and now they won Iran, who's allied with China and Russia and is not Iraq. And it's now never been clearer though that Israel, because the power vacuum and the Democrats in trouble and the lowest fundraising ever and their poll numbers the lowest ever. I mean, they're badly coordinated. Trump's cutting off the NGO money. They're redistricting. They're going after the election fraud. They're cutting off funding to the states that don't put in voter ID. I mean, we're on a roll. This is great.

2:01:13 except into that vacuum, we dealt with eight, nine years ago, the Democrats, Deep State, Brennan, Clapper, Comey. I was targeted, that's now been declassified partially, along with Trump, NSA, wiretaps, all of it, starting in 2013, because I knew Trump was getting ready to run. And I was lumped into that. And so I wouldn't call Brennan, Clapper, Obama, you know, Israel operatives. I mean, they worked with Israel, but they were funding Arab Spring and their own, you know, agendas. But now, in my view, Well researched, it is accurate to say China was the main threat, obviously nobody debated that, of espionage and economic and military threats.

2:01:54 And then you can move down the chain from that, obviously Russia in there. But no, Israel not as a military threat per se, other than dragging us into war, so I guess it is. This is the top threat kinda, other than NATO keeping this thing going with Russia. But so I would say that the second largest military threat by proxy or by black hole, and then they are in my view the number one espionage, beyond espionage, really soft coup threat. with them moving into the vacuum of the White House. And there's the taboo of criticizing anything Israel, you call it baby Hitler. No, Israel is a powerful, sophisticated group. And it's a fact in my view that they are now attempting a coup over the policies of the United States. And not just militarily, but what companies get chosen for AI funding, all of it. And with their history of transfers to China and others, it's just insane.

2:02:51 So I heard John Kiriakou on several shows and he experienced that. I only read one of his books, he's got I think 10 or more. The point is, he witnessed what I've been told by a lot of, I've had Mossad whistleblowers, famous ones on the show talking about this decades ago. But the fact that he never ran into any intelligence agency that behaved or acted like this. And so I kind of been ranting there. I don't know his exact assessment of this, but does he think in general what I said is accurate or what or kind of give us who he thinks the main threats are? And then looking into this, what he thinks of my statement that I mean, I don't think it's even debatable that this is an attempted Israeli Likudnik takeover. And they kind of had that with George W. Bush, at least on foreign policy.

2:03:37 And then how he thinks we can extricate ourselves from that, or does he disagree with that? And what does he think of the bizarre Streisand effect? I mean, Trump couldn't be doing something worse to tie himself to Epstein as saying, move on, there's nothing to see here. These aren't the droids you're looking for. You've got all that. So John Kiriakou, find all his books in a sub stack, everything at johnkiriakou.substack.com, johnkiriakou.com, K-I-R-I-A-K-O-U, and so much more. He's a journalist. and former CIA counterterrorism officer, head of counterterrorism, places like Afghanistan. And I won't go over his whole bio. But he was an internal whistleblower, so they tried to set him up. That's all been proven. So thank you so much, John, for joining us. I know that was a long intro. You've got the floor.

2:04:22 Thank you so much. I have to say that I do agree with you. I've said for a very long time and I'm going to stake out really the same position that you just staked out. This has nothing to do with whether or not we like Israel. This has nothing to do with whether or not we believe Israel has a right to exist. Of course it has a right to exist. Nobody's debating that. At least very few people are debating that. But the issue is we cannot chain ourselves to Israel for better or for worse and just pretend that that Israel's interests are always our interests. It's just simply not the case and I have to say I laughed out loud when I saw in the clip that you ran.

2:05:07 The Israelis claiming that they haven't spied on us since Jonathan Pollard. That is just simply false. I was in a debate with the former head of Mossad and Alan Dershowitz a few weeks ago on the Pierce Mortgage Show. And the former head of Mossad, General Danny something, said exactly the same thing. Well, we haven't spied on the United States since Jonathan Pollard. That's just not true. Pollard was arrested in 1985. The year of the spy, if you remember it, that's what Ronald Reagan declared it, the year of the spy. In 1990, five years later, on my very first day at the CIA, the CIA's head of security told us that the FBI had identified 187 undeclared Israeli intelligence officers spread all around the country

2:06:02 the purpose of stealing our defense secrets. They're targeting almost exclusively American defense contractors. And yes, they are a threat to our national security. And it's on record they sell it to China. That's not very friendly. That's the whole problem there. You know, on the one hand, we would say, OK, it might even be akin to Canada stealing our secrets. All right. They shouldn't. But what are you going to do? But it's not just that they steal our secrets to ensure that they are as safe as possible. They steal our secrets to then sell to the Russians or the Chinese, or not even to sell so much as to trade. For example, Jonathan Pollard, whose picture is on the screen right now, one of the most prolific spies in American history, got 30 years in prison and did every single day of the 30 years. Jonathan Pollard gave the Israelis information on

2:06:58 on Russian, I'm sorry, Soviet troop movements, for example. The Israeli government then gave that top secret information to the Soviets in exchange for the release of Soviet Jews and permission for them to emigrate to Israel. Well, you know what? I feel bad for the Soviet Jews and what they went through in the 1980s. But it is not up to the likes of Jonathan Pollard or the Israeli government to decide that the Soviet Union should have top secret American defense information. Well Pollard wasn't a US citizen or remember correctly, but it's true He was he was and he was working for the defense in or the name Naval Intelligence Service I was kind of begging the question the point is that's treason Exactly. Yes, so so but it's like oh, it's okay He did it for Israel so he can give the Soviets our main enemy with nuclear submarines pointing missiles at us it do that's okay It's just it's preposterous

2:07:58 It is, it's outrageous. I spoke with a contact at the Israeli embassy recently and he said something that really bothered me very much. He said that embassy officials here in Washington are under orders to equate anti-Zionism with anti-Semitism. They've had success in doing this so far, but they want to get us to a point where if you disagree publicly with anything that the Israeli government does, it's because you're anti-Semitic. Well, a bunch of states, sir, as you know, Texas is the worst. And I overall like the governor, but on this, he's crazy.

2:08:38 He's sanctioning San Marcos, a big city south of me from Austin, because some other city council had a vote against the indiscriminate killing of civilians in Gaza. And he's saying, well, we're going to sanction you and put controls. And now they're making any business that gets a state contract pledge allegiance to Israel. Have you seen this? That's right. I have seen it. A friend of mine was contracted to give a speech at Georgia State University, and she was told that she had to sign a loyalty pledge to Israel as well. And she said, I'm American, I'm not Israeli, I'm not gonna sign a loyalty pledge. And so they canceled her speech. Now she's filed a suit. But I'm gonna ask Israel a question. I'm gonna add, and I'm gonna say it's one model of the group, but Netanyahu in their lobby. I mean, it's like,

2:07:58 It is, it's outrageous. I spoke with a contact at the Israeli embassy recently and he said something that really bothered me very much. He said that embassy officials here in Washington are under orders to equate anti-Zionism with anti-Semitism. They've had success in doing this so far, but they want to get us to a point where if you disagree publicly with anything that the Israeli government does, it's because you're anti-Semitic. Well, a bunch of states, sir, as you know, Texas is the worst. And I overall like the governor, but on this, he's crazy.

2:08:38 He's sanctioning San Marcos, a big city south of me from Austin, because some other city council had a vote against the indiscriminate killing of civilians in Gaza. And he's saying, well, we're going to sanction you and put controls. And now they're making any business that gets a state contract pledge allegiance to Israel. Have you seen this? That's right. I have seen it. A friend of mine was contracted to give a speech at Georgia State University, and she was told that she had to sign a loyalty pledge to Israel as well. And she said, I'm American, I'm not Israeli, I'm not gonna sign a loyalty pledge. And so they canceled her speech. Now she's filed a suit. But I'm gonna ask Israel a question. I'm gonna add, and I'm gonna say it's one model of the group, but Netanyahu in their lobby. I mean, it's like,

2:09:26 Nick Fuentes, he worked at the Daily Wire, was pro-Israel, so they tried to make him go to Israel, tried to sheep-dip him, basically, in their operations. He said, why are you doing this? I thought you're Americans. So then they fired him and then tried to get him banned everywhere, and then he turned into this. Don't they understand, like, going out and saying you gotta sign loyalty pledges on, like, 15 states to have a state contract or to... It's making people go, well, why do I have to do that? I mean, I couldn't figure out a way to turn people against me more. My gosh exactly right exactly, right? Even for people who don't follow these issues and don't care one way or the other about Israel. If somebody plopped a declaration in front of you and said you have to sign this or you cannot have the contract. And what they're asking you to sign is a declaration saying that you will never criticize Israel. Who in their right mind would sign something like that? That's like a weird social credit score. Well, remember,

2:10:23 McCarthy and others and Eisenhower for a little while with Nixon, wanted loyalty oaths in the government that you were loyal to the US and not a communist. And people said that's unconstitutional. And I could see it was a little too far, but saying you're loyal to the US is bad, but you can say you got to be loyal to Israel when you're a US citizen. Yeah, it doesn't make any kind of sense at all. I shouldn't laugh because it's not funny. It's actually quite dangerous. And I'll tell you one of the things that bothers me the very, very most is that the Christian community here in the United States should be up in arms over things like this. The Israelis have essentially wiped out the indigenous Christian community in Israel, in the West Bank and in Gaza. Two weeks ago they just burned down one of the oldest Christian settlements the Jewish settlers did.

2:11:10 That's exactly right. They burned it down and they destroyed a St Porfirio's church in Gaza, the oldest continually operating Christian church anywhere in the world. And we're not permitted to complain about that? It doesn't make sense. So where do you see this going? And looking at the Trump administration, because I know you're dialed in, How much Israeli infiltration, we can't say exactly, but it's pretty blatant at this point. I mean, we know they're in control of the Middle Eastern policy to a great extent, but I mean, it looks like they're going for broke. How bad is it? I think it's bad. But I will say that the move of the American embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem aside,

2:12:01 I think that President Trump is very serious when he talks about guaranteeing Israel's right to exist and guaranteeing Israel security. That's fine. I think he truly believes that the Abraham Accords are a force for peace and that things will get better if Saudi Arabia joins the Abraham Accords. Great, but President Trump is in this unique situation right now where he can be the one to bring some sort of real peace to the region. There was a piece in Haaretz, the wonderful Israeli newspaper just a couple of weeks ago, saying that one of the things that the president is suggesting, and we haven't seen this from the American side yet, we've seen it only in Haaretz. But one of the things that the president is suggesting is that

2:12:50 Gaza fall administratively under the auspices of Saudi Arabia that it disarm. So there would be no Gaza military or Gaza police force. The Saudis would develop the Gaza economy by building a port and airport. Flooded with money, put everybody to work, allow them to manufacture something that they can export. And then you don't need all this fighting anymore. And then Netanyahu steps up attacks because he doesn't want that. Exactly. Just like Israel helped create Hamas to destabilize it. It's the same story. Yes, couldn't agree more. That is disgusting.

2:13:31 It's awful and what's incredible to me is that he doesn't see how incredibly short-sighted this is. I was in a restaurant in New York the other day and I was talking to a friend of mine, having lunch with a friend of mine, and we were talking about these very issues. And there were these two women next to us, both in their 80s, and they were quietly listening to what we had to say. And then finally one of them said, excuse me, I couldn't help but to overhear your conversation. We're both Jewish and we agree with you on this issue. They said Netanyahu is so far to the right. that he's forcing people who otherwise would be pro-Israel or wouldn't be paying attention one way or the other to become anti-Israel. And it's a short walk from being anti-Israel to being anti-Semitic. That it is Netanyahu who is creating anti-Semitism. I totally agree. And even Michael Savage is a pro-American. He's not an Israel first guy, but he's pro-Israel. He says Netanyahu needs to go.

2:14:32 Just a couple of days ago, I was on the Piers Morgan show again and I was on with Jack Posobiec and two left-wing bloggers. And at the end, Piers asked us about our position on Israel. Every one of the four of us said, of course, Israel has a right to exist. Israel has a right to defend itself. But my God, slaughtering tens of thousands. hundreds of thousands perhaps of women, children, elderly, you flatten all seven of them. On TV, it's the first televised genocide and then you flatten all of the hospitals. There's not enough food for anybody. People are dying of thirst. Come on, where's the end here? It's too much. And then Pierce said that that was probably the first time that he added four guests who

2:15:20 who agreed to cross the board on Israel. And then you've got the left that is just frothing, basically pro-Hitler now, while they call conservatives Hitler with no evidence. Yeah, that doesn't help. It doesn't help. No, no, that doesn't help. We've got to be constructive. Like you just said, this is a genocide. This is a genocide and there is still a chance to save some people. So we've got to do the right thing here. We've got to stand up to the Israelis. Well, I mean, it's stated. What happened on October 7th, he announced, you know, out of the Old Testament, the ethnic cleansing. I mean, he said, we're going to cleanse this.

2:15:57 And if you look at the international accords that have been signed since the end of the Second World War, this is the definition. This is the legal definition of ethnic cleansing and ethnic cleansing is a form of genocide. And remember a year ago, Netanyahu floated a memo to move the Gazans not to Egypt but to Europe and the US. And again, people don't know, Saudi Arabia is reforming, in my view, and they're more of an expert than I. They are really working with Israel. They've talked to Trump. They would set it all up, have security, turn it into a beautiful golf courses, hotels, beautiful beach. Everybody would have jobs. They would kick Hezbollah, Hamas out.

2:16:37 And it would be great, Israel would have a trading partner right there. And Saudi Arabia's like ready and they're reforming and they're saying women are gonna get the burkas off. So we see reform starting and Netanyahu's like, no, we're taking it all. And they think we can't do translation. We can watch the national TV shows in Hebrew. And I mean, it is just frothing, absolutely frothing. We're gonna kill all these people and they don't know that people are watching that? Yes, seriously. On my very first overseas tour with the CIA, I was stationed in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. And toward the end of my tour, the Saudis came to us. They came to talk to the US ambassador, Ambassador Chas Freeman. And they said, look, we have this idea for Gaza.

2:17:25 Hamas had just been formed, but they had this idea for Gaza where they go in and they work with the Israelis to build a port and an airport. And that would allow the Israelis to ship things out of Gaza, would put Gazans to work. Maybe they could encourage some manufacturing. They would allow fishing. For example, the Gazans are not allowed to fish. Can you imagine? It's a coastal enclave. and they're not allowed to fish. And so we went to the Israelis informally and said, look, the Saudis are willing to pay for all this. They want to bring electricity. They want to bring clean water and a port and an airport. And the Israelis said, absolutely not. Now, that was 34 years ago. And we're still having the same conversation. Yeah. And then again, for people out there, Netanyahu says he's defending civilization.

2:18:20 You don't create Hamas, have them destabilize it, admittedly, so there's not a good leadership that's reasonable. Lately, Turkey, NATO, and Israel put in the leader of Al-Qaeda in Syria, and then Israel goes, well, we blew up their military, so it's okay. It's total statelet destabilization, great game, balkanization crap. And it's evil and the public understands it. Not the crazy left, kill all the Jew people. We're not talking about the Soros fund of people. I think they funded that to actually bolster it. But we're talking about reasonable people like Trump wanting to fix this and Netanyahu saying no and then waving his moral flag around that he's against Hamas when he's been their sugar daddy until what, three years ago.

2:19:03 I'm glad you used the word Balkanization just now because that's exactly what we're seeing happen. And we're seeing it happen in slow motion. You mentioned at the start of this segment, that there's one of the last Christian villages in the West Bank is being wiped out this week. As we speak, there are Israeli settlers from New Jersey and New York and they're forcing Palestinian Christians out of their homes, burning down their olive trees, and they're just taking their land, seizing their land. Well, what we're seeing if you look at a map of the

2:19:39 of the West Bank. Now, as you see these little circles and they dot the map and those are Israeli settlements. That's what Bosnia looks like, right? That's what Republika Srpska looks like in the Balkans. It's these little islands surrounded by the land of another state. And these little statelets don't work. They don't work. Well, like I said, Trump coming out and saying don't look into Epstein is a total strata in effect. A five-year-old would know that. Israel on TV saying we're taking all the land from the Christians, from the Muslims, it's ours, and we're gonna kill everybody, and announcing the biblical name for that. This is like this week, and then saying, oh, we're not doing anything wrong when the whole world sees it. Do you think Israel and the Likudics are in a bubble? I mean, do they not know what they're doing?

2:20:36 I think that they are so confident in continued support from the United States that they can do anything that they want. They don't really care what, let's say, the French have to say or the Chinese have to say. They care only what the Americans have to say because they need our veto in the United Nations Security Council. And so long as the Americans don't put pressure on them, they'll just continue to push the envelope to see how far they can go. Well, I mean, just the last few years, you'd think October 7th Israel popularity goes up, then they don't just kill the leaders of the groups, they go after the civilians. And now the polls show Israel is basically the most unpopular country in the world. Yeah, and that's not happened before. Every single year Gallup International does a global poll where they ask people in every country on Earth,

2:21:34 Who the greatest threat to world peace is and you know for the Greeks? It's the Turks and the Turks. It's the Greeks Pakistanis and the Indians the same thing the North Koreans in the South Koreans the same thing you expect that for the rest of the world It's usually the United States is the greatest threat. We gotta break. Let's come back with that right now by and large the things that you buy for like wellness or lifestyle or just like You know, you don't want to feel like detoxification support. Those are all very potent antioxidants, like everything that we sell, like what's in this ultimate life force formula. The NAC in here is a precursor to glutathione. It's the precursor. They try to take that off Amazon during the pandemic because it's so effective at what it does.

2:23:56 You got bravado, you got arrogance, you got humorous, you got chutzpah. And what Israel is doing and continues to do is very self-destructive. And so our guest, John Kiriakou, very famous CIA whistleblower, former counterterrorism officer, head of counterterrorism in Afghanistan and other countries. I want to soon move into Epstein and other issues and what else is on your radar. But just finishing up, we got caught off by the break. I've seen the polls everywhere. You're mentioning, I think, a Gallup poll. We covered that a while back. For the first time ever,

2:24:36 Israel is seen around the world as the number one threat to world peace. But you were going actually over the numbers. I don't have the poll in front of me, but it seems you do. So just finish up, John. Sorry, that break was a hard break. Oh no, that's okay. Yeah, now the Israelis are seen as the greatest threat to world peace and here we are all these years later, all these rounds of negotiations later, all these different ideas later, and not only has nothing changed, the situation has become even worse. So I know it's hard to predict things, but in the short term, midterm, long term,

2:25:14 It looks to me like the Israeli control of the White House is getting more intense. I'm seeing major pressure though, everywhere, and a real awakening to this that was already happening, but now it's supercharged. And it's not how the Israel lobby wants to brand it as pro-Hitler or pro-radical Islam. That's not working. And then I understand Israel's got nuclear weapons, they're not going anywhere. I don't want them destroyed. I think they have a right to exist. I mean, I literally am not sitting here obsessed with Jews all day, But with these policies and the chutzpah issue, Israel's now seen as the main villain. And they can't just juxtapose it to the unpopular mullahs either. People are more sophisticated. On this trajectory, where do you see this going? I honestly don't see it getting any better. And part of the reason is that this is not at all a partisan issue.

2:26:06 Democrats and Republicans ideas about Israel are almost identical, at least within the mainstream. Of course, there are gonna be these radicals on the far left and on the far right that are gonna have a different position. But there's no pressure from the United States for the Israelis to change their position. And there are no bold desires or propositions for overarching peace agreements. We're not seeing calls for another Oslo round. We're not seeing calls for a grand deal to make all of these issues go away. And in fact, I think that the Saudis would be interested in participating in something like that. Undoubtedly, the Qataris would be interested in participating. The Palestinians would probably beg to participate in something.

2:27:00 But the Israelis know that nobody's going to force them. And so there's no incentive for them to go to the negotiating table. So what happens in Gaza? And then of course, they're just going to expand more in the Golan, they're going to expand to the West Bank. I mean, there is a greater Israel project. That's not a conspiracy theory. They wear it on their army IDF uniforms that they held. They want like to make Israel 10 times bigger. That's insane. Yeah, in fact, they bombed Syria again today. And the Syrians, you know, this the Syrian government is just this little radical statelet that's trying to convince everybody that they've left their radicalism behind them. And I hope to God that they have. But the Israelis are free just to come and go and bomb anybody they want. And they do it.

2:27:43 They do it all the time. So what do I expect in Gaza? I expect more of the same. I think that the plan is to turn the whole place to rubble and it's to force Gazans out. You mentioned a few minutes ago that the Israelis had been encouraging Palestinians to move to the United States or move to Egypt or move to Jordan. And when that wasn't forthcoming, they came up with this cockamamie plan to take all the Gaza Palestinians and send them to Albania. And the Albanian said, well, we don't want them. We have our own economic problems. Then they came up with this stupid idea to send them all to an island off the coast of Indonesia. And the Indonesian said, well, we don't know anything about this. We know we're not giving up an island to become Palestine. The truth is,

2:28:27 All of those are forms of genocide. Forced removal of a people is a form of genocide. And we have the multi-thousand year old, three thousand year old Moses and the Jews being kicked out of Egypt and then the Jews and the Desporos and Hitler and they're literally doing what was done to them now. Exactly. Exactly. It wasn't right then and it's not right now. Wow, and then you know, there's all those things a Palestinian those none of one live there I mean, it's just I hate that argument. So she loved Ben Shapiro. You mentioned earlier, but you didn't say his name He and others are like there was only one Israeli spy John the baller the the former prime minister told me we don't see on the US but when Ted Cruz got asked about it a few weeks ago by

2:29:10 Tucker, he said, well, of course they spawn us. They're our friends. Of course they do. Yeah, of course they do. Of course they do. They always have. It's as simple as that. And if you talk to anybody who has served at the American embassy in Israel, whether when it was still in Tel Aviv or not- I saw you on a podcast, I forget which one, tell that story. Describe, out of all the intelligence agencies you've dealt with, I imagine it's dozens. Tell us how many directly, even all over the world. Who is the most aggressive and the most deceptive? Yeah, by far the Mossad. There's just no, hands down, there's just no comparison. I told this story on a podcast where two friends of mine with whom I worked at the CIA were transferred to Israel and they were both known to the Israeli services. They were declared, what's called declared to the Israeli services. So when they arrive in Israel, the station chief takes them to the Mossad and says,

2:30:05 You know my two people here. They're going to be here for two years. They're not going to be working against Israel, of course. The wife is gonna work on Palestinian issues at the embassy, and the husband is gonna take Arabic classes at the university. Everybody's happy. But then the ambassador has a welcome party for them, and when they get back home from the welcome party, somebody had rearranged all the furniture in their living room, just as a signal that, hey, we can mess with you anytime we want. And of course, they reported it. Several months later, the ambassador has a Christmas party. They go to the Christmas party and they come back and people had defecated in all of the toilets in their house and left it unflushed. Now, why would you do that? Just to intimidate, just to anger and just to show disrespect. Finally, another year and a half passes. It's time for them to leave. The ambassador has a going away party for them. They go to the party, they drive back to Jerusalem.

2:31:05 People had gone into the house, the dog was whimpering under the dining room table. They had cut the dog's tail off and they wrapped it in gauze and in medical tape. Now why would you do something like that? What do you hope to accomplish? just by treating an ally that way. And of course, the CIA has to go to the Israelis and say, stop harassing our people. And the Israelis say, okay, okay, and then they're good for a year or two, and then they just start doing it again. But that's the nature of our relationship with them. That is not how you make friends and influence people. No. I mean, take Steve Buchanek. I know he worked in intelligence a bunch of places, co-authored books with Tom Clancy.

2:31:45 But, you know, he's Jewish, by the way, and he said no. He said there's nothing worse than when he dealt with over the decades, you know, with Israel and all the rest of it. Also, so I tell another story about them coming to the embassy or the CIA meeting with you guys and always giving gifts with open bugs in them, knowing you're going to find it. Like, is it just like they don't want you there? I mean, but this is our loving ally, our best little pal. Yeah, this is something else that we had to deal with. You carry on liaison meetings all the time with visiting intelligence services literally every single day.

2:32:24 And the Israelis, we had to stop allowing onto the CIA headquarters campus because every time they'd come, they would bring a gift. And every time they brought a gift, it had a listening device installed inside and it was packed with batteries. And we would tell them, you guys have to stop doing this. Every time you come here, you try to bug our conference rooms. So now when we meet with the Israelis, it's off campus. You just can't trust them. And by the way, if I as a US citizen, let's say, ask for a tour, And I got caught at Laney, even in the cafeteria, placing a bug. I'd probably get 20 years in prison. Test me, Anosh. Without any question, you would go straight to federal prison? Yes. So, and if I work for the CIA and I leak something, I'd go to jail. So, the point is, is that how, I don't even understand the psychology of that. And not just you telling me this has come out. Why do, what is the motive of behaving like this?

2:33:20 I've been told that the motive is the desire, the unequivocal desire for survival. That the Israelis understand, sure, we're friends, we're allies, but nobody can save the Israelis but the Israelis at the end of the day. And on the off chance that we're not giving them literally everything we have, in In terms of defense and intelligence, then by God, they're gonna steal it from us and they're gonna use it to protect themselves. Don't they get being highly aggressive like that is what's turning everybody against them? I don't think they care. Well, let me ask you this. Genuinely, I think they don't care. Did you ever see, in Gradingham, were there other agencies that, because you know, everybody that really studies history, I'm not an intelligence agent, but I've studied, it's very interesting. The Russians are all just straight up, we love you, we're your friend, you want sex, you want money. The Chinese, same deal.

2:34:12 sex operatives, stuff like that. But instead, the Israelis is just pure muscle, pure in your face, pure blackmail, pure attack. That historically, I would think would be the, I know I've read books about interrogators and had them on people. Usually it's the good cop that gets people to do what they want. So why do they behave like this? Exactly, Alex, I never encountered another intelligence service that didn't understand from deep down didn't understand that it is the light touch that wins a person over. It's the good cop who wins the person over. You can't just punch people in the face over and over and over and over and expect them to do your bidding or to treat you like an equal and a friend.

2:35:00 The Russians would never treat people like this. The Chinese, the Cubans, the British, nobody would. I mean, how do they operate? I heard you say the British were about the best you'd seen, but I mean, describe the British versus the Russians. It's so interesting, or the Chinese. You engage a person in conversation and that conversation you want to eventually lead to friendship. And when the conversation leads to friendship, the friendship is going to lead to something even closer to the point where this person is going to be willing to commit espionage for you or in some cases to commit treason for you just because you are their best

2:35:39 When I first got hired at the CIA, I asked a question in training about the use of honeypots, for example. A honeypot is when you try to entrap someone using sex. And my instructor said, no, no, we haven't done that since the 50s. That just doesn't work. It makes people angry. It doesn't allow you to create a relationship based on trust, right? And you want the relationship really to be based on trust. Well, the Israelis don't care if you like them or trust them. They're gonna punch you in the face and they're gonna poop in your toilets and they're gonna cut your dog's tail off. And then they're gonna run a guy against you in Congress because you're not pro-Israeli enough. I never understood it.

2:36:27 And so I go back to the Nick Fuentes thing, very popular, very articulate. I don't agree with many things he says, but I didn't know his origin story until the other day. I did an interview and I actually watched part of it and I looked it up, it was true. He was pro-Israel, working at the Daily Wire and they literally tried to get him to go to Israel, make him do all this pro-Israel stuff. He goes, what's this about Israel? So he starts investigating and finds out basically they're an Israeli front, probably actually Mossad. We know these billionaires out of Texas that are Zionist funded. And then they fire him and persecute him and come after him and then turn him into this big enemy. I mean, it's just crazy. It is crazy. It is crazy because the number of people who are willing to put up with this has to be finite. At some point, people have to stand up and say, enough is enough, America first, we're not doing this anymore and we are not going to let you treat us this way.

2:37:23 I mean, I'm not the toughest guy around. I never started to fight people for no reason, but I've certainly learned even just a regular little skinny guy, watch this car, you go over and knock him on the side of the head, he's probably gonna attack you. I mean, I just don't, it's, and then Israel's like, oh, we're loving, oh, we're friendly, oh, we're all this other stuff. And then everybody I talk to, including Jews that have been in the CIA say, no, Israel's the worst. And it didn't just start yesterday. I mean, it's just bizarre. Yeah, it's not good at all. I don't know how they get anything accomplished internationally. When you pick fights with everybody, including or especially with your closest friends in the world, it just doesn't make any sense. So, are there any good factions in Israel? Or how can Israel reform itself? Because I really want Israel to succeed and not be the detonator for nuclear war.

2:38:09 But there's been this odd political change in Israel and it's being attributed to the influx just over the last 20 or 30 years of thousands and thousands of Jews from the former Soviet Union, but especially Russia and Ukraine. They've pushed the body politics so far to the right that Likud, if you can imagine this, Likud is now seen as one of the moderate factions. The only way to really change this is to change the political system. And I'm going to tell you what the Greeks did, because this actually has worked. Greece had the same kind of system that Israel did, where there were 35 different political parties. Nobody ever got a majority. And so you had one weak coalition government after the next, like Israel has now. In fact,

2:38:55 The government technically collapsed yesterday in Israel and Netanyahu now leads a minority government. There hasn't been a call for a vote of no confidence, but it's probably coming. So what the Greeks did is they changed the electoral law, saying that you had to have 5% of the vote to get elected to parliament. So there are still minor parties that are represented there. But whoever came in first got an extra 50 seats in parliament. And that way, One single party has the authority to govern. That's the only way they're going to be able to get past this in Israel. Otherwise, they're going to be at the beck and call of these crazy

2:39:36 religious parties where the leaders of these parties... And as you said, any time a cult is under attack it tends to get more extreme, more in the bubble, and again Israel's leadership is its own worst enemy. I'm serious folks, I literally care about Israel. I mean, and it's got nuclear weapons so I care about it not getting cornered. So in closing, I could talk to you for hours, everybody should get your books, amazing sir, and you're very busy. Epstein, and I'm not trying to go back to Israel again, but obviously intelligence agency. I mean, you know Maxwell mi6 Russia Basad buried Mount Olives military burial You've got even though he was in Eastern Europe World War two I mean all of that and then Trump's bizarre behavior in the last 12 days flip-flopping creating mass strides and effects

2:40:21 What is your view? What are your sources? What in the hell is going on here? And is Israel using the Epstein file that we know the Democrats and Brennan and them had and probably took out about something about them and stuck something about Trump up and told that's what it is, even though it's fake. And now Trump is just sick of it, but he's created this Streisand effect. That's a huge subject, but what do you think's going on? Yeah, I think this has been handled very poorly. I really believe that Donald Trump doesn't have anything to hide. He's been very transparent about his one-time friendship with Jeffrey Epstein. And I also believe that the FBI probably has destroyed evidence, maybe not in the last couple of weeks, maybe it happened four years ago or 10 years ago or who knows. But when we talk about files, we're not necessarily talking about

2:41:07 paper files in an envelope that says, you know, evidence of pedophilia. We're talking about computer hard drives and discs and videos and DVDs. There has to be something out there. And I think that that the American people and the victims of Jeffrey Epstein deserve an answer. You're showing the family, including Ghislaine. And Ghislaine Maxwell's father was a well-known Israeli. Mossad asset. I've said this before, I'll say it again. I think I feel very strongly about this. I think that Jeffrey Epstein was a was a Mossad access agent. I think that that the support of Jeffrey Epstein as someone who was just a proud and and loyal Jew and not an access agent that we're hearing from the likes of Alan Dershowitz is nonsense.

2:42:02 And I think the only way to put this thing to bed is the president is gonna have to have literally everything released. When Pam Bondi said last week that the videos that they have showed Child pornography and pedophilia. They're disgusting. They're never gonna be released. Yeah, that's great. That's fine We don't want to see videos We want child porn. No, we want the perpetrators prosecuted and how exactly we want child porn release exactly Identify the men on those on those tapes and prosecute them. That's all we're asking So let me ask you this though as an analyst and a former counterterrorism head

2:42:43 Trump's body language. I mean it was angry scared at the press conferences. Yeah Flipping out saying they manipulated the file which they the the total Democrat angle Brennan did have so that makes sense, but Just the handling of it in the behavior. I keep saying this you couldn't behave worse to act incriminated And then people thought I was attacking Trump. I was saying I'm scared. I mean this is bizarre I mean, I'm actually shook to my very core here about what is this? I was surprised by his reaction in the cabinet room where he was sitting next to Pam Bondi and the reporter asked Pam Bondi about the Epstein file. And then the president interrupting and saying, you don't have to answer that if you don't want to. Do you want to answer that? And then he says to the reporter, why are you still asking these questions about Epstein? That creep has been dead for years.

2:43:36 Well, it was the president that raised this during the campaign. It was the president who said he was going to get to the bottom of it and was going to release all the information. I mean, five months ago, they had the press conference with the files saying part two is coming. That's right. Just release it. It's as simple as that. Just release it. And him saying to the reporter, we were just talking about dead kids in Texas. You just desecrated them. I mean, it was just desperate. Don't ask questions. Don't ask questions. Well, anybody knows. I was surprised. So looking at that fear, I mean he said, oh the Democrats had the file. I think he, I've talked to sources, that's what it is. They took some of the Jane Doe's that were fake, you know, when they were first targeting Trump, they knew he was going to run. They started surveilling him. It's been released, 2013. I was part of the same deal. NSA files that got released leaked to us. But the point is, is that I

2:44:22 I believe Trump, they would have already released it to Bernie before. I've never seen any of the MO that he was involved in that. Plus he's not the type that would go compromise himself even if he wasn't a kid, which he's not. Obviously not in Russia getting pissed on, that's ridiculous too, the same people. So it makes sense then. They're only gonna put in the file what embarrasses him, probably some FBI reports. So then he has to do a special counsel, he has to bring it out and meet it head on instead of acting like he's running scared. And I've never seen Trump run scared like this. I think that's the way to say it. I don't say this to hurt Trump, I have to tell the truth. I'm seeing running scared behavior and then I ask myself, okay, then what is it?

2:45:00 I wonder if he's been threatened. I wonder if the Democrats have something that maybe they made up out of whole cloth. I mean, my God, we're all afraid of what AI can do these days and deep fakes and all of this kind of thing. So I wonder if he would just rather this go away even at the expense of having guilty people go free or not be prosecuted, just because he doesn't want to have to fight a fight That is going to be that is going to be made up and almost sure. I mean, it's logical. They didn't want him to use this against them. So they drop a dime on themselves, which we actually put out and Bo Boyle's great. And he said, I got a call from my New York guy. They've got it all. We're going to get to Bonnie tomorrow and we broke it. But obviously whenever they leave in New York and then let Trump know they have, and then he gets it and doesn't want any, Oh my God, when I released this as a new rush gate, it's all fake. I think he's told us that this is a setup. And I actually believe him.

2:45:59 But that argues then for the appointment of a special counsel because then the special counsel can do The forensic investigation and say the president's right. This is all fake. All right, do five more minutes We got to go to break John I could have you on for 10 hours. We got a commercial free podcast Sometimes those are huge as well. John Kiriakou John Kiriakou calm real fast. You've written so many books What would you recommend one book to people? What is it? I think it's my second book. It's called Doing Time Like a Spy, How the CIA Taught Me to Survive and Thrive in Prison. Which you got for exposing torture. Thank you, Barack Obama. Yes. What a nice person. And is he an Arabist? I'll answer that question when we come back. But first, ladies and gentlemen, who is Obama really?

2:51:43 John just realized that he's got an interview right now and John Kuriakou, so he's got to go But we were just telling sex operative stories cuz I'm not an intelligence agency But I study it also they treat me like that and I was saying yeah the Russians are the main one sex Roberts Oh, absolutely. They still do that. He was telling me wild stories. You got to come back on Very very soon. You're an expert on You also privacy issues really concerned about this digital currency. They're trying to add in this genius act, but John, thank you so much Thank you so much. Good to see you. I appreciate it. All right, I'm going to take a few calls. You've been really holding patiently, Sean, Jad, Jason and Jim. And then I got a 34 minute report that I put this together over a week and a half ago, but I've been so busy. I don't want to report on ourselves. These taxes was bigger fish to fry, but it's very important. And now they've got a receiver and say they could be coming anytime. They've contacted my lawyers, everybody and say, well, we might come next week or whatever.

2:52:40 So we are that close to being shut down right now and again because we've survived so many times It's like a family member that's had like four heart attacks and you know everything like oh grandma. I'll be fine. Oh grandma's dead I mean And then there's all oh, it's not real. They're not really trying to do it. Oh, I'll assure you they're doing it You know we have the Justice Department here But my crews all been deposed over and they sued the living snot on my parents for no reason they were all cleared so they sued them again I just want to thank the viewers and listeners because I can't continue this fight without you. We're gonna go to break, come back and take four or five calls. I'm gonna air this exclusive information. And I don't even know what headlines to put out on this. I mean, this stuff is so bonkertown. And this is a 30 minute report, 30 something minute. I mean, this is only the new stuff. I mean, cuz see, I'm not a liberal. I'm not a victim. So I don't live in the stuff that's been done to me. I don't, I feel sorry for my, I mean, quite frankly,

2:53:39 I always thought I'm not a sadist. I ran into a few girls in college that would like wanting to slap him around or whatever and I wouldn't do it or they'd want you to slap you around. I'm like, nah, I'm not into pain, honey. But actually I am a sadist now. At 51, last five years I realized it. But only a sadist for freedom. Like the more I get attacked, I actually enjoy it now and I guide my operations towards the pain Because when you're over the target, you get the flack. But you are the variable. You decide whether we stay on air or not. And if you were here and you knew the numbers and everything, you'd know what I'm telling you on my children is 100% the truth. We all see through rose colored darkly. I distort things not on purpose, but let's say 99%. Okay? I mean, what I'm telling you is what's going down.

2:54:25 And so when I said, I need help, I need help. People go, God, you keep surviving. Well, because I'm in a death battle. I mean, I'm in a marathon, knock down, drag out like that famous, you know, great choreographed fight in they live. I mean, it goes on and on. You got two bad asses, you know, they got stamina and it's just going to go on and on. So But now we're really winning and they're losing so they're getting more desperate. And I've been winning so much people are like, well, you'll be fine Alex. You got the charm, you got the touch. I mean, no, God is working through you. We have barely made it. I had to, the crew's great, but they got people here, armed security. We're told to get you out. Where's the court order? I don't know. I'm like, crew, we don't have to go. Okay, we'll listen to you. We don't want to get arrested or whatever.

2:55:13 And during COVID, at first I said, no, we're essential workers. Here's the law. We don't have to leave. People tell them they had to. I've had to, and now the crew has seen me telling the truth so much, they don't even ask questions anymore, which is fine if they did, but they're so battle-hardened. And I gotta tell you, the best thing about all this persecution, because we had some great crews before, and some of the crews have been here 20 something years, like John Harmon and Wes and others. I'd say the average person's been here 10 years, but the crew's always like, well, we got a new network, new systems. You sure we're gonna have jobs? I'm like, Are you sure my right hand's not gonna get chopped off tomorrow? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I get down on the ground and eat dog shit to keep fighting the New World Order. Plus, I love you guys. Plus, I need you. So, you know, most employers are manipulative. They try to get employees thinking they're not needed and, you know, blah, blah, blah. No, no, no, no. I need you like somebody being thrown in the ocean needs a life jacket. But, you know, through this, I have just got a badass crew.

2:56:13 And I mean, I don't sit there and pat him on the head. I mean, I mean it. I mean, this place is thoroughbred now. I've got battle-hardened, battle-tested people. And regardless of where we go, this has been a great experience, actually. What a strange game. The only way to win is not to play. All right, I got some bad news for you. And I understand why Trump's doing this. John Solomon's very credible, never lies. Two days ago, Trump tells him, I'm doing a special prosecutor. I talked to DOJ people high up, they said no, he wants one. But he doesn't wanna put his destiny in somebody's hands. He's lost a lot of trust. He put Ed Martin in, the guy's, another guy, 25 years? I mean, that guy is like as good as it gets. But Press Secretary Epstein case says no special prosecutor.

2:57:11 And look, I'm completely honest with listeners. People take it out of context, go Jones is selling how to do a cover up. No, I said I don't think there should be a cover up. There should be full transparency. But if Trump is gonna cover it up, just say we're still investigating and slow roll it. If he thinks it'll crash the economy, the news is so bad or whatever. But no, he keeps saying don't talk about it, which is the worst possible thing you could do. I mean, that's why it's like the worst possible thing. And I am just like, beside myself, And I was in a good mood today because it looked like there'd be a prosecutor and now Trump's decided not. But he's vacillating so much, who knows, he may appoint one tomorrow. Just put Ed Martin in for God's sakes. They got some planted Democrat stuff, expose it and use it against him. Everybody knows they do that. Stop running from their BS. When they planted child porn on me and we want to meet with you, we won't go public if you work with us. I went on air and attacked within an hour and they crapped their britches.

2:58:12 And the FBI gave me a letter saying I was the victim. Of course I was. We found this child born you sent us, but we'll work with you. I was like, you, I was just, my God. Attack, attack, attack, never surrender. Here's Leavitt. Well, the idea was floated from someone in the media to the president. The president would not recommend a special prosecutor in the Epstein case. That's how he feels. And as for his discussions with the attorney general, I'm not sure. Deanna. Oh yeah, and more flip-flopping. My God, they're doing so many 180s here. I think I'm on a roller coaster at Magic Mountain. Holy Toledo. Let's go to Sean in Rhode Island. Thanks for holding so long, Sean. You're on the air. Then we'll go to Jade in Malibu. Jason and Jim, go ahead. Alex? Yes, sir, go ahead. Hey, man, I just... You're harder to get a hold of than the damn president. I've been trying to call you for about 20 years. Well, you're on the air now. Hit us hard.

2:59:14 Hey man, I want to talk about Trump for a second. I'm a mailman, I'm actually walking around, I do 10 miles a day, I'm on the methylene blue, I'm on your X2, I'm on all your stuff, and I love you man. Short story real quick, I went to court to have my child support to be over with, my child support. You know, you pay the courts for- Yeah, we know, I know all about it. I wore my I wore my Owens Jones for president shirt 2024 and the judge said hey you've got a lot of balls wearing this in here. Well, how does your court case end up?

2:59:57 Oh, it went great. I don't have to pay no more. I took care of my kid for 15 years and I still paid child support. But I got a question for you, man. When are you going to announce your run? 2028 Alex Jones. Let's go. What are we doing? You know, I've never felt the calling like Tucker to politics. And I'd rather just affect things in the knowledge space. So, I... If God, like Tucker said, if God appeared to me and said, run for office, I would. So you're gonna tap you on the back. Well, no, I mean the gods done that before and if I start, you know

3:00:33 I believe I got the tabs in the back. I've talked about it. Get up out of the bed. Turn your phone on us this time. Okay, that's for four nights and a week. And then I go, okay, what's the message? They're going to try to kill Trump. He shouldn't have outdoor rallies monthly. I was trying to kill him. I mean, I told people that like God's waking me up at night and it's like close encounters with role making the mountain with Plato. And then they all get guided there. I mean, it's, it's, it's going on brother. Well, we appreciate you, Sean. You've been listening 20 years. How many times have you seen three, three, three on your clock? Well, I look at clocks a lot. I've seen that. I mean, I'm talking about get up, get out of bed, turn your phone on. It will be this time. That's how God does it most of the time. And it happened like four times in one week. That happens like every few months, you know, for years, decades. But it was super intense. Like they're going to service air missiles. They're going to sew bombs inside a purse with a reporter that doesn't know. And they're going to try to kill them in an outdoor rally. And I saw in the dreams that were along with it,

3:01:28 Trump and the whole thing and I mean I told people a month before they're gonna try to kill Trump They're gonna try to kill me should do outdoor rallies and it happened I mean it was literally God telling me that appreciate your call Sean good to hear from you be safe Jason in Ohio on the Trump Epstein files then Jade on the fires in Malibu and more go ahead Yeah, I like There's this old documentary that was done for TV and it got canceled before it was finished and And later, about a decade later, they put it on YouTube. But it's called the Conspiracy of Silence. Have you ever heard of it? Yes, I was the first person to ever hear that in the mid-1990s on AXS TV in Austin. If I remember that correctly, in that documentary, weren't the witnesses and the victims that were interviewed, weren't they assassinated by the FBI?

3:02:20 And the FBI had something to do with sealing the case. I don't remember the specifics. I mean, I was given it by the filmmakers in about 97 saying no one will air this. And they told me finally no one aired it. They gave us like over 100 access stations. They told me out of England I was the first person to ever air it. So yes, I do know about it. Yeah, I was thinking that's so when Dan Paolino was acting weird and then Trump's acting weird, I think it ties back to the conspiracy of silence. Well, I mean those are well being England is the kingpin of child rape control government. So yeah, yeah I think you actually find the conspiracy of silence online. You'll see him for wars on it Most of versions out there. I think you were begging the question. You already knew that right? I've never heard you talk about it on the show before I'm just seeing all the versions I've ever seen were from my access TV show I'm trying to get the credit you were just asking I know about it. Yeah, we were the first people to ever

3:03:18 And then one more thing I want to point out real quick is when it comes to stuff like the CIA being involved, they've done stuff with the playboy models of the month. You know, getting them to be like prostitutes for high-level leaders of other countries. Oh, 100% that's what that all is. Yeah, and then it ties into the beauty pageants, and the beauty pageants go to the child pageants, and that all ties into the chore and stuff. Yeah, I gotta say, a lot of the parents involved in those are pimping their kids out. I mean, I'd say a lot of them. It's sick. All right, God bless you. Let's go to Jad in Malibu. We covered this a couple hours ago. It's confirmed, UN City stealing all the property, total criminal activity. You're out in Malibu. Jad, your take on that?

3:04:05 Hey boss man, I've been living on the water for 25 years and for days before the fire we had them spraying not like normal spraying. Okay, it was very low, couple hundred feet in the air. Round thick line. Sounds like they were spraying some like kerosene or some type of accelerant. I'm telling you, it was so bad. Well they had left us out by the hundreds on tape that we caught burning everything down. I mean they just attacked. No, they were spraying. This fire. No, I'm saying, but I'm saying even during the fires, they had left this every, remember all the hundreds of videos just burning everything too. Yeah. I mean, I can just specifically remember a brown fog sitting on the water and I barbecue steak every night on the beach. You can spit in the ocean from my deck.

3:04:56 And it was like nothing we had ever seen before. You know, and it wasn't... I agree. What do you make of them openly stealing all the property, building a UN city just like we said they would? I mean, it's incredible. Yeah, well, I'm listening to you all the time and you were right about that. I mean, it's evil. And we were watching it happen and I lost 25% of my business to that fire. I used to clean Karen Bass's pool. I lived on Rambleau, Pacifica. You know, so it's obviously I'm pissed about it and I've been up there every day because we have passes to go in there. It looks like a war zone and it's pretty obvious what's going on. You know what I mean? And you're going to have passes to go in there to their crime scene as they steal the property.

3:05:42 Yeah, we've been draining pools, cleaning them out, you know, and getting them back going. It's been like a Dirty Jobs episode, but I'll tell you right now, on top of the draining of the pool, on top of there being no water, they were spraying something that is not the same. I'm out on the water every night. Well, I've not heard this intel yet, but that makes perfect sense that they would spray some type of accelerant oil or something because they did everything else to do it. Send me information. Send me anybody that reported on it. That is powerful, thank you, I believe you. 100% they burned it down on purpose. Jim in Tennessee, last caller and then we caught the feds in what appears to be money laundering in the cases against us. It's all coming up right now. Jim in Tennessee, two minutes, go ahead.

3:06:26 Alex, thanks for having me on the show. Big fan. I waited a long time to be able to get on the show and tell you this. We made you last. Go ahead. I want to tell your listeners about something. I started taking methylene blue a few months ago. I suffer from polycythemia, which is an overabundance of red blood cells. I did a lot of research myself. I have medical records, blood tests, everything to show the only change in my habits was methylene blue and we have dropped my red blood cell count by over 40%. It's incredible. No need to have donations done every two or three days. Now my take on the special counsel, I was real happy to hear it. Now I'm not so happy to hear that he's not going to go forward with that.

3:07:12 Let's talk a little bit about the art of war. Sun Tzu's art of war emphasizes the importance of psychological tactics and deception to gain advantage over an opponent. We know that he is a very good chess player. He's got me baffled as a longtime supporter of everything he's done. And I give you kudos for calling him out on what needed to be called out on for a long time. But I think that in order to change the flow here, some really big arrests need to be made. If he wants to change the optics, he gets this Epstein deal. I totally agree. Not just Fire Comey's daughter arrests their ass and prosecutions and we better see it.

3:07:56 It's time for that to happen and start with some big fish to show his supporters that like, you know, hey man, I still got you. But I gotta be the first to do it anyway. I think we're gonna see that. This FBI grand conspiracy probe's real. Trump has to do it. I believe it's gonna happen. Incredible call, Jim. Thank you. Could talk to you for hours. All right. The big expose on the new attempts to shut us down and then bombshell information we have airs right now. Share this live feed. We'll post all this to X soon. And share it, Paul Reveres. I need your help. In my 31 years on air, thanks to your backing and your support, we have forced the deep state out of the shadows and now they are collapsing. They are in major retreat. But their main weapon is the corporate media with PR firms and law firms teaming up together to go after patriots that stand against their globalist agenda. And first and foremost, in the populist common sense media is info wars. The globalists have admitted for decades it's their number one enemy.

3:08:52 But only because of you have we stayed on air. And because of that, the bad guys are now attacking my parents and my wife. They're suing them. It is totally crazy. They have appointed a state receiver to try to come in and shut things down because the federal court isn't doing it. This battle has really come to its most important climax. And we are about to win this war, but we need you to support to take us over the top. That's why it's so important to go to thealexjonestore.com that is our main sponsor, that's not owned by me, that's not part of InfoWars, but funds InfoWars and funds the backup network that they've set up so that we stay on the air one way or another and part of those proceeds are able to go to our legal defense and offense. So before you see this huge presentation of some of the incredible tyranny that we have now uncovered, and even more is about to come out, but this is the biggest and craziest yet that we released

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3:11:28 because they're also being sued. Again, be sure to go to thealexionstore.com because part of that can also go for their defense. I need your help. I need it now. The globalists are trying to get through me to get to you. Stand up for yourselves like you've done so many times and support this operation now because it belongs to you. We are about to present evidence of an organized conspiracy of the Democratic Party by Barack Obama, by Michael Bloomberg, by Democrat Party law firms in the last seven years to run a concerted covert effort with US taxpayer money through the Department of Justice to demonize myself, my crew, Infowars, create a straw man identity that was not us,

3:12:29 Then rig two show trials where judges found me guilty and then produced literal show trials with HBO for a $1.5 million judgment in Connecticut and 45 million in Texas. Now, I've covered a lot of the insane injustices and the lawfare and the conspiracy against my rights and the fake auctions they held and so much more in the past. And we're gonna recap some of that tonight to understand the new information and context. But this is the biggest information by far we have released yet. And this information has to do with what, from our own research and legal experts, appears to be clear cut money laundering by the Justice Department trying to hide the money it was putting in to the charities, the foundations of the people suing us that was then used to pay the Democrat Party law firm, Koskoff and Koskoff. Now, of course, we have

3:13:31 The FBI CIA operative, Obelibus, Gavin Obelibus caught years ago on undercover tape saying we investigated Jones for over a decade, couldn't find any corruption. So the FBI went over to Connecticut and ran these lawsuits. And then we had the head of the FBI counsel, Aldenberg testify in the show trial that he had gone and investigated us and gone to Koskoff and Koskoff and gone and organized the families and sued us. So they're really hiding this in plain view. And then all the things that have happened in the bankruptcy with the Justice Department getting involved in that, trying to close the doors repeatedly without court orders, turning off the internet. You saw that happen the last year.

3:14:15 But we're still have survived thanks to your support, but we're not out of the woods yet. But we are beginning to win and very, very quickly. The third court of appeals in Texas, that's three liberal women just over a month ago, signaled publicly that they believe the Texas ruling was unconstitutional as it clearly is on its face. So much good is happening right now And we put out a lot of reports before detailing the past injustices, but this latest information is beyond bombshell. And then there's even more damning information that we're gonna be releasing in the next two to three weeks as well, a lot of court filings and more. That's even worse than this.

3:15:01 But ties into it, but I've been asked by my lawyers, I think they're right not to tip our hand. And some of what we're gonna cover today, we're not gonna go all the way either because we don't want them to know how much we know. Let's just say this, we've been reached out to by multiple individuals. You can call them whistleblowers if you like. So the biggest bombshell is gonna drop very, very soon. But so far, this is the biggest. This is massive, and so Rob Dew has been here 16 years. He's our news director. He's been persecuted and targeted by these lies as well. And so he's helped collate this information not just for these cases, but also for the DOJ. I'll just leave it at that. That's now ongoing. There is a

3:15:45 group investigating, but I'm gonna stop right there. That's a separate issue. So Rob, just try to recap as quickly as possible for those that already know about it, but for those that don't, and then let's get into the new information. Sure. We've put out detailed reports about this, and I wanna start off with the FOIA request that we got earlier this year, done by Chase Geiser, which details an investigation started against Alex Jones back in 2013 as being a white, racially motivated extremists. So this started in 2013 and it was ongoing where they had to approve it every 60 days. They would have to review it and go, okay, we're gonna keep this going.

3:16:24 As far as we know, it's still ongoing. It's still on the books. And we got the four requests that the Trump FBI gave to us and Kyle Serafin, very famous FBI was blower who was in counterterrorism. Look at the codes on the documents. They're heavily redacted and blacked out. And he said it was the Boston office. It happened right when Comey got appointed 2013 under Obama and was specifically running an espionage, counter espionage operation against us, which is, which what they do when they try to do a drag net to find some dirt, but can't do it inside of a regular criminal investigation. Exactly. So they couldn't do that. So then we have Gavin- So there we are officially targeted by Obama. Right.

3:17:02 And then we have Gavin Oblevis later admitting years ago that they never found any dirt. Right. So we couldn't do it. So we went to the families and helped the educated them. He admits educating the families on how to, well, you could go after him this way. And it all fits perfectly. Here's an investigation to find dragnet dirt. They don't. Here's Gavin Oblevis, FBI, CIA liaison admitting, no, we investigated him and found nothing. So we did this. Yeah. And then I want to go to a piece I put together and this is all testimony from William Aldenburg at the trial. You could go watch the whole thing in full. I'm going to put together a few clips where he just talks about how he started the investigation, how he got promoted throughout the years. And even in, in 2015, he got a special promotion, which he talks about being on the second floor of this office, FBI building. And, and he's watching videos of you and other people talking about Sandy. So that's his new job. That's his new job. So he got that promotion, which we didn't get until he got cross-examined. It was a rebuttal examination. They asked him when he got promoted and he said in 2015.

3:17:59 And that's when he got his second floor office. So let's go to that clip now and then I think that'll catch people up to what's going on. But he also admits he went to Koskoff and Koskoff to start the lawsuit. He goes, that's why we're here today. So let's go to that right now. So you were the top lawyer providing advice to the FBI in Connecticut? In-house, yes sir. In-house, yes sir. When's the first time you watched a video of Mr. Helbig on Mr. Jones' show? Alex holds magic inside of his glove He mixes the potion with the f It's the ultra power to his brain From his stache of Excalibur He's in the drag King's wings, no The power of kings

3:19:23 So you were the top lawyer providing advice to the FBI in Connecticut? In-house, yes sir. In-house? Yes sir. When's the first time you watched a video of Mr. Halvig on Mr. Jones' show? I would be guessing, sir, I would say approximately like 2016. Where were you when you saw that? I was sitting in my office on the second floor at FBI New Haven. You didn't file suit at that point in 2016? No, at that point I couldn't get anybody to help me. You were looking. I was by then I pretty certain by 2016 I had contacted The Agents Association, I had been looking for people. I've been asking the US Attorney's Office to help me. I had been asking the FBI New Haven to help me. So yes, I was looking for help. I tried to get help. I tried to get the Bureau to help me. And then, you know, I called the Agents Association to see if they could help me and that ended up,

3:20:22 You know, it didn't result in anything. They basically just gave me the runaround. And then finally, you know, the only person ever who even listened was Mr. Koskoff. He's, he, you know, he was a gentleman and gracious enough to listen to me and that's why we're here. Is there going to be a waiver? And I think you said that you may have first seen that sometime around 2016. You weren't sure? I'm sure that it is It's gonna be sometime after April of 2015. And the reason I know that is that Clare's day, I watched the videos in my second floor office in New Haven and I was no longer the chief division counsel. I was in a different position. So I know I was sitting in that office and I wouldn't have been in that office until April of 2015. How many times did Jones call you?

3:21:18 He didn't call me, sir. Did you ever see this photograph 289 on Info Wars? I didn't, no sir. Do you know whether he ever talked about you on Infowars? I don't, I don't know. And again, we're just scratching the surface here, Rob. You and I have done 30 minute hour long detailed reports that will also link in larger articles about this at infowars.com where people, they want to see the whole backstory in great detail with all the documentation they can. Please continue. All right. Now let's go to, there's two funds. There's a Sandy Hook Promise Foundation. And there's the Sandy Hook Promise Action Fund. Both of these are organizations that are pretty much run by the same people. You can go see who their board is. It's all public information. And the people showing me. On ProPublica. And you could see how the year before the lawsuits filed and the lawsuits filed, they have big jumps in their revenue.

3:22:07 671% increase in revenue, the San Diego promise action fund. So they're not making hardly any money until they come after me. Right? Well, it just shows that they're making more money. I wouldn't say they're not making any money. They're pulling in lots of revenue the whole time, but But it goes up 600%. Sure. And so for the Sandy Hook promise fund, they go from 5.83 million in 2017 to 13.6 million in 2018 when they filed the lawsuit. And then it jumps even more when they go from the, into the trial. And if you look at what the Sandy Hook promise action fund was making in 2021, their revenue shows 4 million jumping up to 9.9 million in 2022, the year of the trial. And if you calculate it out from 2017 to 2022, a 3000% increase in revenue.

3:22:53 They're making a lot of money. They only made 28 million during those years. I told it all up. That was their revenue there. Now the Sandy Hook Promise Foundation, their revenue against you was 119 million from 2017 to 2023. So the year leading up before the trial to the year leading up after the trial or the year before the lawsuit to the year after the trial. $119 million. And then years and years after, I hadn't even talked about it ever, they run the PR, they demonize me, they get me deplatformed saying that I'm sending people to pee on graves and to do all the stuff that never happened, to come to their houses. During the show trials, my lawyers are like, did anybody ever come to your house? Well, who told you they peed on graves? I don't know, somebody told me who, I don't know.

3:23:50 So, so it's just, they just say whatever they want run ads, raising all this charity money off my name while saying I'm making money off them and attacking them. Right? So total we're talking about what 119 and how much more than 28 million on the other one. And of course 74 75 million from Remington Remington. Yeah. And then you have your law, your 1.5 billion on top of this, which is, you know, when you add it all up, it just gets crazier and crazier. And then they said, that's not enough. We want 2.75 trillion, the GDP of India. I've never had more than $10 million in the bank. And then of course now the accounting is done because they did four audits on me, including the IRS. And I made total in my lifetime on air $55 million. And most personally, and most of it went to pay lawyers. So. As, as is the case with these things. So now let's go to the DOJ and, and

3:24:37 The Sandy Hook Promise Foundation got two grants from the DOJ back in 2022, the year of the lawsuit, the trial. So now we're getting to the big new information. This is the new information. And they got two grants, one for $859,000 and one for $837,000, totaling $1.7 million. And they were awarded these in October of that year. And then if you, here's two articles, one from a local Hartford, Connecticut news station and one from Forbes. They both mention, and they make it a point to mention these, that Koskoff, Koskoff and Biter will get one third of any compensatory damages recovered from Jones and Free Speech Systems. These articles were done in November. The firm says its legal costs have been nearly 1.7 million so far. It turns out it's almost the exact same amounts that the

3:25:26 that they're getting from the DOJ. You say almost exactly, it's the same amount. 1.7, 1.7. You combine the two grants. Right. And they come together to exactly 1.7 that they get within a month, within a month. Within a month, yes. So this is October, October 1st, they're getting this money from the DOJ, awarded this money. And then- The people suing me that have charities raising hundreds of millions of dollars. Right, the foundations. They're getting this from the DOJ and these are the only people- Using my name, using my name saying I'm victimizing them and using the censoring. They're raising hundreds of millions of dollars and then they get DOJ grants. Yeah. And then a month later, they file their attorney's fees and then they're paid that exact amount of money.

3:26:10 And there it is, and it's in two different articles. One's from Forbes, so that's a national, and then one local, a local news station. And so let me just announce, we've been ready to sue them and have already filed some suits, but very serious ones for months, but we keep getting more information. We have even more than what you're seeing here today, we've been asked not to reveal. It's even worse, okay? But. We don't just have CIA, FBI undercover tape admitting it. We don't just have the head of the FBI counsel in Connecticut admitting he triggered it all and did it right in the timeline they had met. We now have the DOJ with grants directly to the foundations of the people suing me a month before that then totals the exact amount that the Democrat party law firm, Koskoff and Koskoff, then bills. It's written right there in black and white. You can go see all this. It's all online, USA submitted. Well, if that isn't money laundering, it sure looks like it.

3:26:59 It's the Biden by the US government, right? Which we know at the time. So 2022 that would have been during Biden's term, which Oblava says the CIA FBI contract specialist says we've investigated him for many years, which we now have the document showing that it from the Justice Department. We got a few months ago, five months ago for the Justice Department, the incoming Trump administration. He says we couldn't find dirt, which we now confirm in the documents. So we went and did all this and we have the head of the FBI counsel saying they did it. And then we have the exact same amount of money a month before given to the very people suing me by the DOJ and then the exact amount from the lawyers, they're paid. And it's all convenient. It's all right there in black. Can't wait to depose them.

3:27:44 And so I was talking to my lawyers two days ago, and they don't want a bunch of this released, even worse stuff, and the other things. But they said, no, now is the time, go ahead and do this. They've never seen anything like it. And obviously, these guys already know what they did. So let me just give them a newsflash. Yeah, you're all getting sued, okay, for conspiracy against rights, abuse of process, everything else. And We are having major backers coming in to support us and there is a criminal investigation. I'm just gonna stop out there, please continue. Well, the sickest part of this is I thought I was sophisticated. I know how PR firms and Operation Mockingbird worked and covered it. But when it was done to me and all of us, for those that don't know, Hillary, they spent 20 plus million dollars in TV ads saying Alex Jones says Sandy Hook didn't happen. And he has a dark heart as Hillary said in that famous speech, Hillary Clinton dark heart speech, Alex Jones. And he's doing all these things that I didn't do, they built a straw man. And he's Trump's brain

3:29:01 So is an attack on Trump. And will Trump repudiate? Then Trump wins. For a couple years, they demonize me and saying I'm doing all these things I'm not doing, sending people their houses, peeing on graves, all this. I had talked about it in years. I'm like, hey, even before they sued me, I was like, no, I think it happened, let's move on. And then for two plus years, they raised money off my name, hundreds of millions of dollars with my picture all over Facebook, all over Twitter, everywhere. All over CNN, PBS, sometimes thousands of articles a week, hundreds of TV programs, every few, I mean, it was every channel some days. And then it's a Democrat Party, Bloomberg's involved, raising massive amounts of money for gun confiscation, for gun control and anti-free speech movement.

3:29:47 And all doing it off making me a villain while they're raising all this money and it's all quarterbacked by the FBI and the DOJ. I mean, this is outrageous. I think one of the attorneys at Koskoff and Koskoff is a former DOJ prosecutor. Yeah, especially he's going after Republicans like the governor. Basically from what I've seen doing nothing in Connecticut Republican, you try to win an office and you do in Connecticut, this guy puts you in jail. His name is Chris Maddy. It's just crazy, it's absolutely crazy to have everything they said about me is what they did. And to now have them so caught, and that's why the Justice Department is very interested obviously. Because on the bigger stuff with lawfare, going after Trump and all the stuff, they covered their bases a little bit better. But with this, they were so, so reckless, kinda like the onion with the Everytown Bloomberg group financing him on national TV. They go,

3:30:40 Stephanopoulos goes, well, the judge says this isn't a real auction, it's going to go through, which it didn't. They go, no, it's ours. I mean, we don't have to follow the rules. He's Alex Jones. He's Alex Jones? This is Alex Jones. We do lies and garbage in a different way. We have a lot more fun with it than they do. We're very excited to take it over and, you know, create a new better path for this website. And the Sandy Hook family support this move? Absolutely. They were behind this and, you know, Ben and I may seem like strange bedfellows, the Onion and Everytown, but the truth is we've got at our fingertips the facts, the stories, the data, the research. But what they've got is a really broad audience and humor, which is what you need sometimes to break through the misinformation, the fear that has so permeated mainstream thinking. Overnight, the judge in charge of this put a hold

3:31:29 on your purchase, raising questions about the process, raising questions about transparency in the bidding process. What do you make of that? Are you confident this is still going to go through? Yeah, look, we won the bid. We own Infor's and we are very excited about that. But is it true that you didn't have the highest bid? We did have the highest bid when you take into account the family's concessions here. They made a concerted effort to make this the best and highest bid for everybody involved. So we're very excited to take that over. And look, it's Alex Jones. If he just handled this graciously and moved away, that would be the funniest part of this whole situation. Obviously, that is not something that he's going to do in this situation. So you're confident this is gonna go through? Absolutely. And so it was such open season that they really screwed up here. Yeah. This is a big deal, guys. This is a lot bigger than Alex Jones. This is about how they've organized, how they're doing this, they're gonna have to count on other people. And that went on, the day they announced it, what, 8.30 in the morning, they announced it, they'd given the

3:32:28 the auction to the onion. That'd be November 14th. They immediately had all- November 14th, 2024. They had the articles ready. They had the TV appearances ready and it was boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. They were trying to gaslight the entire country saying Alex Jones doesn't run InfoWars anymore. And then they cut off the website and then the traffic goes down and that's even in documents. If I went down to- Well, the shopping cart 70 plus percent. Yeah. And then they're in court saying there's no money coming in now, we want it shut down. Right, yeah. When they're the ones that killed it. Right. And people still think they own it, which they don't, so they don't go to the InfoWare store. Very, very sad. But no, we are winning. And as long as we have the funds to keep fighting, we will win. But the problem is everybody thinks we've won. When I go on Steve Bannon or any other show, they go, congratulations, beating the deep state. Trump said, no, they already have that runaway train. It's like if you blew up the Death Star, but it had fired its laser first. It's in process. So it's like, boom.

3:33:25 So this is ongoing. That's why we need support. But when you go to the Alex show store.com, I don't own that. So they'll never be able to get that one of their fake judgments. And that is what's keeping him forwards on the air as a sponsor and the backup network, the Alex Jones network at AJ and live on X. So get great supplements, methylene blue, you name it. Um, why does selection of Patriot apparel, t-shirts, ball caps, you name it. That's how we're doing this right now is the Alex Jones store.com. So please support us. Plus they're great products. Yeah. More is about to come out. But just you've been here 16 years. What has this process been like for you? And what has it been like yourself to be deposed and targeted and lied about? And now to see all this information coming out with even more damning information coming out every day. Well, I feel back before all these lawsuits were happening, what did we do every day? We were working on documentaries, we were working on special reports. We were doing all kinds of work informing people about what's going on in the world. And I felt this is probably taken up

3:34:20 over half our time in some, not, not in every case, but in some instances it's taken over half our time dealing with it. And that was their mission. That was their mission to keep us off, off the ball, off the target and the targets informing the American people about what's going on. So in that, in that instance, they have kind of won a few battles by keeping us off track, keeping us off balance, keeping us working on this stuff instead of doing the real work, which is, you know, informing people about the, how their lives were getting stolen from, how the health effects of the different foods and additives that are out there. The great things R.O.K. Jr. is doing, and Trump trying to stop World War III and secure the war. Even through all that, we're still able to stay on the air and keep going. But that's the great news, is now this is backfiring on them. Right. And now everything they did really demonizing us, the fact we survived so far,

3:35:05 has only made us bigger. So- And people look at it and go, well, if you're guilty, this would be gone. You would have gone away if you were guilty of all this stuff. Well, what evil means for evil, God turns to good. Right. And that's where we are. But just let it sink in, viewers and listeners. And we put the documents here on screen. It's all public. We've got even more. Don't worry. It's even worse. Really bad. I'm going to stop right there. Wait, just wait. Imagine multiple high level FBI, CIA agents admitting it all in court on record. The DOJ giving them grants to their charities, the people suing us around, that's bad enough. But then it matching exactly when the grant money comes in, then a month later, after years of not billing, here's our bill, and it's the former prosecutor.

3:35:55 Chris Maddy over there quarterbacking the whole deal. Yeah, he's gonna have some explaining to do because it's bad enough to have the DOJ give money directly to people and then wink, wink or whatever somebody, but then to directly make the exact amount as a payment. Yeah, doesn't look good. And you look at the Revolutionary War. It was the rebels, the colonists outlasted the British. They just kept-. Persevered. We're not gonna give up. We're not gonna stop fighting. We're gonna find a way. We're gonna cross the Delaware. We're gonna do whatever it takes to keep going and keep on the air. And that's what we've done. And that's why I'm proud of the work we've still done and the work we're continuing to do and the work we're gonna do in the future because we didn't stop. And at any time, at any point, you could have said, you know what? This is enough. They offered me in the mediations. Yeah. To just stop and they drop it. Right.

3:36:42 And I was like, you don't understand I've already before the lawsuits got filed. You remember? Yeah, we went to DC and there's off record meetings wasn't illegal. So I'm not gonna break confidence, but they were like, not these people above these guys, top Democrats and others. And they said, you're about to get destroyed, but come work for us and this can all stop. And 50 million a year just to me. And I said, no, it's easy. I can't sell out. It's not in my DNA. But when I met with Connecticut, the mediation and Josh Koskoff says, we're like the mafia, the godfather. And then

3:37:18 I said, I know you're the mafia. He said, we run the state, you will be defeated. And then he leaves, he goes, I'm gonna talk to your lawyer. And then in the car, Norm goes, yeah, they want you to basically shut up and they'll drop it all. And I said, no, and I said, fuck no. And they did it again in Fort Worth. They're like, okay, they're ready to settle for 75 million. I never made that much money over 10 years. I said, watch, as soon as I agree, where this other room at the courthouse was a federal judge doing mediation. I said they're gonna come back and have a list of things I can't talk about. And they come back 20 minutes later, they go, it's exactly like you said, my God. These are different lawyers. They said we've never seen this before. I said, yeah.

3:37:55 And so I said, go humor him. So it's not-. What else they had? It's not just the Second Amendment, right? And they come at me and they go, yeah, they want to have a conference with you. It's a whole list of things. It was going to become work for them again. And because they didn't say this, but this is what the richest man in the world at the time, representatives, about six months before this all started in 2017, representative said to me, they said, listen, you got the public's trust. We want you to help the public. They didn't say, you're going to be a big fact checker that's woken up and reformed. And you'll run a huge fact checking organization. And then you'll have this whole foundation. CIA writing books for you of all kinds. Well, they didn't say it was all yeah, it took them days to unwind it. It's all very, you can help people. But it was the same thing that the Kissinger group, Rofcop in front of Harmon's that wasn't off record years before. This is like 15 years ago, 16 years ago. Harmon's the oldest employee here 23 years.

3:38:50 And so he was the producer. So this was just a phone interview on air, but during the breaks, Rothkopf's like, hey, come to New York, Kissinger wants to meet with you. You're going to be part of the superclass. You'll still be a patriot, but you'll work with us and you'll get some things you want. We'll get some things we want, but we want you to work for us. You need to join us. And so I've already gotten this speech before. Many times I mean I had Roger Ailes try to give me a Fox show in the book deal and he didn't say sell out He just said by son Murray control what you say, you're gonna have wonderful beautiful women and you know You're gonna have a show and books every quarter and you'll be better than limbox limbox already had heart problems And he lived a lot longer than they thought they want to be to the next limbox. Yeah, I mean Roger Ailes telling us and I said no, thanks for doing it and And and so so I mean it's like that they think like come to me and do this. It's not happening. I

3:39:36 Well, I think there's nothing better than being independent and having just to stand on your own integrity and just go forth and give people what they want. The people want the information we're giving out. Well, I mean, look, if they were a big powerful group that was pro freedom, I would join them. But it's like in Scarface when no women, no kids, and he sent to blow this guy up at the UN. But when he sees the woman and the two little girls get in the car, he goes, I'm not doing this. And like joining these people, they always say the families, I'm not talking about them, but the lawyers, the Democrats, the system. Anything I say about the globalists, the Democrats, he's saying the families did all this. No, I'm talking about your hide mine, then don't do that. I'm talking about your bosses, the globalists.

3:40:21 They're way worse than the fictional character in that movie. They're salivating when he's about to detonate the bomb and blow the kids up. My soul is on the line. There's not even a temptation to sell out. I mean, I cannot be part of these people. And the fact that they've been so naked about it and so arrogant, I see God working here. If this is going to end up, they will be defeated. In fact, that's what I said earlier in the week when I kind of foreshadowed this in closing. is even if they shut us down now, that makes it 10 times worse and better. I mean, because everybody already saw the fake auctions and them trying to shut the building down without court orders over and over again and all the lies. And I've got hundreds of millions hidden and all this crap. And so now in a Machiavellian way, and I don't operate that way, but if they were able to shut us down, it's even way worse for them. I mean, these guys, but they don't know how to stop. They think shutting this down somehow

3:41:15 And stopping our appeals that are having success in Texas and places is somehow gonna legitimize what they did, it's not. Right, the people see through it. I mean, the people see that it wasn't a real trial, it was just a trial on damages. Well, it's already found guilty. Yeah, they give you the two defaults that were within a month apart, almost a month apart of each other. And I think people see through it. But it took a long time because they had millions and millions of dollars invested in a PR campaign to to do what they were doing. They admit that they were working with the law firm. They admit that they were working with other groups to put this information out to, they say, to keep the story straight. And they always say it wasn't about money. Hundreds of millions raised off my name playing victim. Then Remington, 70-something million when the mother bought the gun legally and her son used it. Adam Lanz, the guy that killed the kids, not me.

3:42:03 And then it just, who knows, we're finding new stuff all the time. It goes on and on and on and on and on and on. And it just shows how the Democrats are experts at creating narratives, having the corporate media push it and play victims. And then they hide stuff in plain view, thinking people won't really look at it. Well, that's why they put the FBI, head FBI guy in Connecticut up. That's when we learned about it. Yeah. Yeah, I started all this. So it's like hidden in plain view, because they're worried about that. Yeah. Well, they can't say they're, they're hiding it. We're like, well, we said it well, Oldenburg, you're going to get deposed obviously. And all of you are, and I'm sure you'll say what you say. And then, then a lot of other people saw what went on, who are really upset about what went on. And let's just say there's a lot of ACEs in the hole and you'll see, cause everybody knows there's one thing I don't do. And that's bluff.

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