2:10:17 And we have worked with Rand Paul and Ron Paul to stop the unique patient identifier. And I think when you look at- Twilobre stay there, absolutely. And I mean, Ron Paul 30 years ago was warning about this. He said, they're going to build up border security to keep us in, not the illegals out. And boy, was he right. We'll be right back. Look, there's no limit to what big tech and big governments are going to do. And the illegals, just like Ron Paul warned decades ago, They're just still given driver's license by the state of Texas, and they're able to vote in many cases in blue cities. It's the same all over the country. And then you look at the states, Kamala one, they're the ones where you don't even have an ID. So okay, we get real ID in, but then the states won't have laws or even have to have an ID. So they can always selectively remove these controls, and then just target the general public. And if you look at the system, that's who gets targeted is the people that actually comply.
2:11:23 And then you have all these claims that Elon's stealing everybody's social security money with no evidence or trying to save the system. But then I've had most of my family that's retired every few years, they go, I didn't get my social security money. Somebody stole my social security number and is using it. And then they go through a whole fiasco and don't get money for six months. And then later they finally get it. So it's a disaster. You've got all these ancient computers in the government and all these new systems, and then you've got all these bureaucrats not wanting anything looked at or investigated. It is just a mess. And then, oh, here comes a Patriot Act era thing that, as our guest Twyla Brace said earlier, they admitted was going to be for control. And so that's why it got held up. So you're an ID expert. Obviously, we need IDs. We need to be in control of them. They need to be accurate.
2:12:17 The more we get digitized, the more there's hacks, the more we're having problems. Now people are using AI to do this. Now, maybe all the experts say go back to paper ballots. like France can do a whole country in one day, just six, seven, eight hours after the polls close, they're done for sooner because they counted at the local precinct level or their equivalent, then it's all tallied and you got paper ballots, you can check it and it's very accurate. But instead make it all digital, there's all these problems and machines and they can be hacked and then people are mailing stuff in and on and on and on. And the more complexity
2:12:53 The more money it makes IT companies, the more money it makes the system, the more they can game it. We're really just rigging ourselves into a gulag casino basically. And so I know you're an expert, you talk to the experts. How do we explain this to the public? How do we explain it to Trump? And then what systems should we have? What should we do? Because now the corruption's so bad and And people are like, well, here's the Holy Grail. It's a national ID, which it is the Holy Grail, except it's also the Ring of Mordor. It's very paradoxical. Well, clearly we have to go back or go forward into freedom. Maybe I should say that because we are going backwards away from freedom and we need to go forward into freedom. And, you know, there might be some, I mean, there are really great things about
2:13:41 about technology, but there are some technologies that we should really reconsider. I even think about, because we do a lot with the electronic health record and HIPAA and how it doesn't protect your privacy and how every day almost you can find somebody being hacked. And so really as a country, Congress has made us vulnerable to outsiders accessing our data, blackmailing us, particularly officials could get blackmailed, especially if anybody who hacks in finds out that officials have certain conditions or certain propensities or whatever might be in the medical record, right? So as soon as you bring an entire society into an electronic identification system, you have just expanded the vulnerability from whatever it was before exponentially to whatever it will be going forward. And that's why I believe that
2:14:29 the states must step back in and say, we reclaim our 10th amendment rights and we are not going to issue real IDs in our state. And you know, if enough or even one or maybe two states would do that, the federal government is not going to be able to impose this real ID on everyone. And of course, if everybody backs out of the real ID, like they should, there are 45, 45 states that do not mandate the real ID. The list of those who does is kind of interesting. It's Texas, Florida, Georgia, Mississippi, and Wyoming. Really conservative states, right? But they're the ones who have told their people that you can't have anything but the national ID. We've given up our state driver's license. We've given up to the federal government and we're not gonna give you a choice. For everybody else in the country, they should go and get their state standard driver's license. For those people in those five states,
2:15:28 now realizing what has been done to them, and it's not a state ID, it's a federal ID, they should demand from their legislators to extract them from that and at least give them the right to have a state driver's license. It's just so frustrating because I understand how they present this stuff to Trump because I know people that were there on Warp Speed. He goes, we got to get a vaccine quicker because they told him we can't reopen for two years, holding everybody hostage to a virus that wasn't even that dangerous. And then they already had it on the shelf, they developed it, they have another advisor go, no sir you can do this. He signs off on it, they get the liability protection of having it mandated, and then they roll it out and we have the whole disaster. Because he was also monoclonal antibodies, hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, he was like pushing all, he's an optimist.
2:16:20 And they're like, sir, we actually have this old law. This has come out, that's what they told him. Look, it'll just federalize it and that way there won't be all this fraud by the Democrat states that are doing this. And then he's like, good, put it through, but it's already in the law of the states can circumvent that, as you said. So they're advertising it to him and the public that you have to do it and that it'll be a fix. But as you said, the Democrat run states, ultimately I'll just have everybody opt out of it. And you're like, well, wait, you're saying to that. Well, yeah, because they're going to opt out too. The point is they put all these back doors in there in the system so they can carry out their fraud. And then they misrepresent it to Trump of what it really is when it is just another system of control. Does that make sense?
2:17:02 Yeah, and I think the interesting thing about Trump and the things that he knows a lot about and the things that he does not know a lot about, I always felt like healthcare was a really What should I say? It was a vague. He didn't really quite know how to deal with it. And he once said that it's really, really difficult. And I thought he didn't have very good advisors on health care. And that's why some of these things happen with COVID. And you're right. He was honest. He said, I've been studying it forever and we can't figure it out because You got corrupt insurance companies that are really with co-owners in most of the drug companies. They get rebates that they don't advertise. They push you the expense of drugs. And the average person doesn't imagine, at my insurance company, I must really need this $1,000 a dose thing because they don't want to pay for that. No, they own the pharmaceutical company, basically. So it's so systemic.
2:17:55 We have this fascist, corrupt, kleptocratic, crony capitalist system. Then the left advertises communism as the answer. Even worse, it's just a disaster. Well, I was going to say that Scott Atlas said in his book that he pushed him a bit because he said, unlike all the other decisions that he made, he said that Trump did not use his gut on this issue. And I would like President Trump to use his gut on this issue. He has already sworn, you know, to abide by the Constitution. And the Constitution says, 10th Amendment rights, it says the federal government cannot impose this real ID. So he needs to follow his oath and he needs to use his gut.
2:18:38 We, the American people, should not be pulled into this digital net that RealID is pulling us into. And I believe that RealID, when it gets digitized, put on your phone, if we lose and people don't say no to this, right, it's going to be a global identification system. You know, they talk about it at the international level and they talk about with the Vax Passport. That was just another way to try to get us, you know, to a national ID was to impose a Vax Passport. Well, they weren't successful in that. But now they're really pushing the real ID, which is also a digital system that could easily be connected at an international level. And whether it's international or not,
2:19:18 But as a country, we are different than the rest of the world and we had best remember that and best hold on to it. Because tyrants want to take control and Real ID is a way to take control and we should not let them. It doesn't matter what the whole rest of the world does. We do not have to connect up with anybody outside of our government, I'm sorry, outside of our country and we should not. We should stand firm and tall for all those people even in those other countries who don't want to be in the digital age. We need to be the example of exactly against a digital gulag here and abroad and I totally agree with you this is communist China's
2:19:54 major project, the first to roll it out. We need to be the opposite of that, not adopting that. But more and more, that's what the federal government bureaucracy has been saying. Oh, Communist China has everything integrated in live time. They can spy on all their people. And so let's adopt that. And our laws are more comporting to them now instead of the other way around. It's very, very dangerous. But what you said is perfectly true. Stick with what made us great. Why do we have a 10th Amendment? Separation of powers. Sure, you can have a federal ID if you're a foreigner to get in, that's your country's federal ID, to passport. And now when you're leaving the United States as a citizen coming back, there is a federal ID called a passport, and that is in the common law, and that is in the Constitution, and that is in common sense. And so boom, but you don't then come in to the state ID because you're a citizen of the state as much as the federal government, the separation of powers, this destroys that. And you've just boiled it down to its fundamentals.
2:20:47 Well, and I think this is all about the states. The states have to take back the power. The people have to take back the power. It's up to us. I don't think we can count on the federal government. That's why we have to act. We're looking at getting these state governments to introduce bills to repeal Real ID in their state or to extract themselves from Real ID. And I know you mentioned, you know, that we were testifying in Maine and you had a clip of that. This is what we want to have everybody do at every state. We need to roll out these bills. And I think there's seven or eight states already that have introduced bills to do this. And this is where the pressure has to come to bear at the states and at the people level.