2:55:40 Candace Owens and your analysis of what she's really doing because if you look at her attack, her profile, it's basically Democrat Party, bring down Trump, bring down TPUSA. I'm all about investigating, Kirk. I've got serious questions. But to say that a congressman is at this meeting in Wachuka and then the guys on C-SPAN at the time and then they move away from that with new stuff, it's why I had to come out, folks. Just absolutely preposterous. And then we'll look at, she's literally married to the son of a British Lord, all dialed into the Royal family. And we know Starmer's been working with Obama behind the scenes out of the UK against Trump. We need to investigate if she's working for these guys. We'll be right back. Well, constitutional lawyer, great historian, a man with amazing street smarts, former Trump lawyer, Robert Barnes, a good friend of mine is with us for another 30 minutes.
2:56:33 One of my hallmarks is that I don't infight with other patriots. But I agree with somebody on 90% of things. I'll say when I disagree, but I don't do it meanly. I don't do it aggressively. I don't do these soap operas like other talk show hosts do. And I don't go out and police other talk show hosts. But I've known Candace Owens since she showed up on the scene 10 years ago. Paul Watson, first time I discovered what was happening with her. She was a liberal. She was watching a conservative doxing site. And then the left wanted to take control of us. They were stalking her, pretending to be white supremacists. She found that out because they cc'd some of the same emails together. And so she kind of woke up, she said. And then I, you know, watched her over the years, interviewed her many times. She came to town and went to dinner, stuff like that. And then, you know, she was at the TV USA, then she was at Daily Wire, then she went and did her own thing. And I supported her in all of that, you know. Ben Shapiro and the Israel Firsters and all the rest of it.
2:57:30 And so when they're critical of her, that's because they want to take over the Republican Party themselves, the Zionists. And they basically lost that fight with America at first, you can say now, that's clear. And that's the whole kind of Nick Fointe's group spearheading that. He doesn't like her. Then I noticed back in February when Kennedy was about to be confirmed that it got pushed everywhere. And everybody I knew was getting it pushed by Facebook, Instagram, Google, YouTube. With no evidence, I went and listened to these shows. That Kennedy, some woman, maybe he gave her a car, no evidence. Ishim Asad, he's on the Epstein list we hear right during his confirmation starting. I thought, man, that really, it's done, sounds very suspicious. So I said, I'm watching her now. But I really wasn't watching her, I'm busy. And then I just constantly get asked questions about, hey, she said this, she said that. So I started looking into the Egyptian planes thing about a month ago.
2:58:28 We go out, get the data, show it to some Maryland people, they say this is all wrong. I start talking to others, they go, no, we've already bought the professional data that's even better from the same services. And you can get the really deep data, because everything has a free version versus the pay version. They spent thousands of dollars, they got it, and it was just 66% of the time the planes weren't even in this continent. The two places they go, the two places they go to get repaired, one in Utah, one in Kansas, And then there were only two times for real that the planes were ever where she was at. And one of them was Utah that day that that happened with Kurt. And then the leap forward is it's the Israelis and they're shadowing with planes or escaping in planes. And we saw all these other stories that came out that security shot him in the arm and hit him. And then you can see it's a cell phone and the rest of it. But I always had questions about the confession letter basically to his boyfriend
2:59:19 that Tyler Robinson had and a lot of things. So I said, yeah, I have questions. And we learned early in September that on the 16th, the Kash Patel, I'm on record, was at that meeting with Gabbard and said, I don't want to look at foreign evidence or domestic. And I talked to others at TPUSA and they said, yeah, we've interviewed the 10 people that said he'll be dead tomorrow. But we're not sure they really were part of it. They might have just heard something. We won't win the prosecution, so we're not gonna do it. Kash Patel told people at TPUSA that. They have questions. And so I believe there's a cover up for a reason happening here. I think it's very reasonable investigated. The Owens and her people always say, Jones doesn't want an investigation. He's covering for the FBI. No. So I put out the plain thing. Hey, Candace, we care about you. What do you say to this? She goes, well, there are some problems, but I'm gonna publish later that I'm basically right. Okay. Kirk's widow flies out to meet with her. I knew about it four or five days before it happened.
3:00:15 They were telling me, hey, what do you think we should say to her? And I said, well, just show her the facts. I mean, I'm sure she's just misguided. So they bring her all this stuff, four and a half hours. She comes out like three days later with this Mitch Snow guy. She already read his email with a different name then, saying I'm at Fort Huachuca and I see the head of TPUSA security. And I see this Congressman Amidai out of Vegas who has no connection to any of this. We've talked to his office and him, he's like, I don't even know these people. I might have met him once or something. And so he's lumped in and the implication is this is the assassination planning that went on there. We have clips of Candace saying, if this evidence is true, this proves US military basically did it. Then the congressman is on C-SPAN at 11 AM. He doesn't do the roll call because he wasn't voting on those votes, but he's there at 11 AM. People didn't say no, that's fake video. Then they go the original video of Congress, he's there. They go, maybe that's not right. 11 AM DC is 8 AM,
3:01:13 when the Fort Huachuca meeting supposedly happened. Then you have the head of TPSA security gives out his plane tickets, his info. He's in Dallas flying out at 145. They say, well, he still could have been there in the morning. It's just crazy. Then Erica Kirk gives to TPSA spokesman. She goes, yeah, here's a photo of me with the kids that morning. Candace goes, oh, you're trying to cover up now, giving an alibi. You're behind the scenes manipulating when it had been the paramount tactical reaching out to them asking for it. So it's like you're implicated and you give an alibi, you're giving an alibi because you're scared. So you're innocent until proven guilty in this country, this is you're guilty. And then Candace changed the story to the eighth, the Undersecretary of the Defense flying on a border tour announced in July to all these bases and to these task forces.
3:02:12 And they go, well whoever was on this plane, we got to find out and she just changes the subject to a plane on the 8th. How bizarre a military inspection announced in July or September 8th. And then she doubles back and says these alibis aren't any good. So none of it day to day even lines up. People ask me to investigate this. And then when I come out and say, hey guys, this doesn't look right. Oh, you're a traitor. Oh, you got the call. Oh, you're on the payroll. Laura Loomer wanted to be part of the publicity, injects herself, says, oh, I told Alex to go after her. No, she didn't. She's on the show about Hexeth five weeks ago or whatever. She started sending me texts about Tucker working for Qatar and all this. I call her up, we have a debate while I'm driving home, like 30 minutes. She might have mentioned something about Candace and Qatar. And I said, I don't think she works for Qatar, maybe MI6. It's the way she's going after Trump. We know Starmer's been involved with Obama before doing that.
3:03:06 So this is the level of insanity. I didn't work at the Daily Wire Zionist operation like she did. I know that stuff. So I don't work for Israel, but I don't have to like you guys sit there and say that. So, you don't have to answer for what you're saying about this Mitch Snow guy. And then comes out five different women, domestic abuse, three wives, his kids going on air, him cracking women's skulls, him in police reports admitting he's slamming women's heads in the walls and giving them, you know, subdermal hematomas. I'm reading all of this. Totally different military record than what he said. Didn't break his back in the military, all that's public. And she says it doesn't matter, he was at Fort Huachuca. Well, because our investigators, the Patriot investigators, called and checked it all. That was one of the things that was true. Okay, yeah, he was there, was acting weird and they questioned him. So all of this is insane. And then there's all these other surrogates that get talking points and repeat them. Very, very, very bizarre.
3:04:04 And again, her saying, I never implied that they killed Charlie. And then clearly that's what she's done. So the question is, why is she doing this? And you came on a few months ago not to attack her. You're already on another subject. And I saw the article that you were saying, hey, your case is gonna go well against the Macrons. Not because, okay, maybe Breguet does have a wiener, pythons for arms, maybe one of the pants as they say. But because of the other claims that are just demonstrably not true. So I know that's a big build up. We will have to go as long as we have. This is important, Mars. I appreciate your time. What is your view of what's happening? I really respect you as an advisor to me. Maybe I should just move on, let the public figure it out for themselves because I really, it's given me a headache even after listening and follow what she's doing. But I've never seen so much flip-flopping, so much shell gaming, so much gaslighting and so much
3:05:01 Peacocking around by her and her minions that oh the receipts who the proof, you know Like like like I said, hey your husband's dad's a big globalist Lord. You go to these big royal meetings I've got right here, you know, and we know star mers been caught before working with them activist against Trump I'm not accusing you of this but you want to choose everybody at work for Israel or whatever Maybe this is going on because I've heard that before from good sources She comes back with a photo of her and Paul Watson with her husband, later husband, saying, thank you, Alex. I met through Paul Watson, so I guess I'm all controlled through you. And then people found all these other times she said she met him other places. So I don't even get into crap like this, okay?
3:05:43 I'm not saying there's an MI6 connection because of that. I'm saying because of everything you're doing and how you're undermining Trump, and then who his family's involved in. Not about, look the receipts, a guy that worked for Alex at the time introduced him. Now she has two other stories of when this happened and when this went on. She told Piers Morgan, I never said they're hiding Charlie's body. I never said they hid where he's buried and then there's all these clips of her saying that. So Here's the deal, lying, ladies and gentlemen. Constantly changing our stories. And I didn't know, that's why people were asking me, hey, look into this. And I looked and it was really bad. So that's my long buildup. What do you think's really going on here?