POWERFUL THURSDAY BROADCAST! Universally Hated Depopulationist Kingpin Bill Gates Falsely Accuses Elon Musk Of Doing What Gates Is The Recognized King Of: KILLING POOR PEOPLE! Plus, Trump Scores Major Trade Victory As UK’s Keir Starmer Publicly Capitulates! Finally, Will The Newly Elected Pope Leo XIV Continue The Leftist Legacy Of Pope Francis? — FULL SHOW 5/8/25

00:00 While other networks lie to you about what's happening now, InfoWars tells you the truth about what's happening next. Visit InfoWars.com forward slash show and support the InfoWars. It's Thursday, May 8th, 2025. Bill Gates is really editing in. We're about to expose InfoWars. Tomorrow's news today. We are now entering the 108th day of the return of the West via the American Republic, 1776 worldwide. I am your host, Alex Jones, coming to you from deep in the heart of Texas, broadcasting worldwide. Now, I got up this morning and saw a splash all over corporate media everywhere, Bill Gates' big comeback, he thinks, or his big assault.

00:59 And he has singled out Elon Musk to say Elon Musk is doing everything that Bill Gates has done. So it's that classic meme of where you've got Indiana Jones with the Golden Idol and he's trying to switch it out with the sand. And that's exactly what's happening here. I mean, it is incredible. And what's amazing is I woke up at 5am and saw this everywhere. Hours later kept looking and right before the show went live was looking no one even seems to understand what's going on. Even people that don't like Bill Gates don't understand how he operates, what his foundation does, and what he's doing right here. I mean Bill Gates runs the World Population Control Foundation. They changed the name in 2000 to the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.

01:52 All right, and it makes him money. He's not a philanthropist. He is a master scumbag criminal. And his dad ran Planned Parenthood. He took over the main foundation that IBM had that Thomas Watson ran, the world head eugenicist who Hitler literally hailed as his leader, had a special award made just for him. So the history is all there. I'm an expert on Bill Gates, and there's nothing more frustrating Then already knowing that Bill Gates is one of the most hated people on earth, along with Klaus Schwab and Tony Fauci. But if the public really knew how bad he was, it would blow their minds. And then that would bring down the whole system of the globalists, which is already falling apart. So he's accused Elon Musk of killing children with USAID cuts when on record, just pull it up, Reuters AP even had to admit it.

02:53 Headline, the majority of polio cases worldwide caused by the vaccine. Then you read the articles, the documents, it's Bill Gates' worldwide polio program. His specialty is poisonous, mutagenic, so-called vaccines. His specialty is getting poison medicines approved that his foundations get paid government money for. There's Bill Gates Sr. Then they roll it out and poison people worldwide. And that's Fauci's specialty as well. So, I mean, these guys are the heads. I can show you their award ceremonies where they don't call it Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and laugh and say it's really the Depopulation Foundation. So,

03:53 He knows he's hated, probably the most hated person on earth. Doesn't matter if you're on Facebook, Instagram, X, anywhere. There's a video about him, millions of views, 99.9% just hate his guts and understand a lot of it. Yeah, there's some of the articles. Polio vaccination causes more infections than wild virus, then it's Bill Gates' group doing it. So you can see shots of him administering it. So you talk about bold gaslighting, this is stunning. So I'm gonna hit this and you're gonna get more information from me than anybody else. And I don't say that with pleasure because it's very frustrating people don't get this. And even me trying to address how bad he is, I can go 10 hours straight. I mean, it made the top of my head blow up this morning when I saw this. Elon Musk is the opposite of Bill Gates.

04:42 in pro-human population systems. Gates is the Mr. I want to kill everybody on record. And now he says Elon Musk is who he is. I will not stand for it and you shouldn't either. All right, Bill Gates is attempting a comeback tour right now on the back of Elon Musk. And my defense of Elon Musk stems not from

05:21 defending Elon Musk. But that if you understand the tactic being used here, it is about putting all the sins of Bill Gates, the head global eugenics chief mad scientist on to Elon Musk, whose pro-human agenda, increase the human population agenda, is antithetical to Bill Gates. And we owe it to President Trump and Elon Musk as the two main game changers creating massive devastating opposition to the globalist operation. So in this attempt that Bill Gates has rolled out, that is multifaceted and sophisticated, it's not just about Bill Gates trying to resurrect himself when he is hands down the most hated person on earth. It is about resurrecting their entire evil system and setting everyone up for when they release a new

06:27 Bioweapon which they have hundreds on the shelf conservatively that they're on record making that when there's mass death from it It's Elon Musk and Trump's fault. Remember what Hotez said as soon as Trump gets in he'll be hit with a new virus Remember Fauci saying that in 2017. So we got their name. We got their number. We know their operation This this is beyond critical and if you want tomorrow's news today You're gonna get it here. So

07:10 Before this news even broke today, we had Steve Kersh, the incredible computer scientist inventor, real philanthropist, scheduled because of new giant studies confirming the mass deaths worldwide from the poison shots, new even more prestigious devastating information. He's in the third hour. But on Gates, I am going to cover all the other incredible news in this hour. And then when I start the second hour,

07:47 I'm gonna expose his ass like nobody else has. And here's the problem, what I cover in the next hour, second hour, is only a small portion. This guy is so bad, so evil. He's been caught all over the world putting bioweapons into so-called vaccines, doing illegal testing on kids, financing the creation of COVID-19. weaponize live polio vaccines causing millions of deaths. It's all on record by the way, and who he is and where he comes from and what he represents. I've known this for 30 years because it's been known by depopulation researchers about him and his dad and how they took over the IBM World Population Control Foundation. And IBM was behind gates, they backed him, all of it. And it's actually been known but

08:58 No one seems to have all the pieces. So it's a big victory for humanity that he's hands down the most hated person on earth. When I went on Joe Rogan a few years ago and said the majority of the polio cases are from Bill Gates, he went, hold on, let's fact check that. He found Reuters AP even admitting it. Went, wow, so I gave more evidence and then the national news attacked myself and Joe and said we were liars. So Joe I sent Joe a four minute clip of Gates admitting it all, and then admitting that the 80% of people that took the COVID shot in their test got really sick, because the media said that we were lying when we said that. And so that video Joe posted on Instagram last time I checked had like 100 million views. You could read for five hours in the comments, millions of comments, not one person supporting him, and they all knew pieces of his evil. That's just an example of snapshot.

10:01 of one of the, I mean, anywhere he's at, anything you see, people know he's a mass murdering killer because he's admitted it so much. I mean, he's involved in releasing GMOs, mosquitoes in Africa and South America and Florida, and they have all these weird viral outbreaks directly linked to it. I mean, the guy is a damn monster. He's heavily involved in the secret geoengineering block out the Sun crap. I told you that 20 years ago. Now he's in the British news advising them on the secret program that's been ongoing to save you from global warming. I've got that in the stack today. I mean it just you cannot swing a stick in the dark and not hit something evil this guy's doing. The secret of government unit. The secret of a unit planning to dim the Sun on Intelligraph. And it's Bill Gates.

11:08 He wants to make you eat bugs. He wants to ban beef. You're like, oh, that's what Klaus Schwab wants. Yeah, it's the same people. They're neo-feudalists, depopulationists. I can show you their awards galas where they go, oh, to the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. Actually, the real name, ha, ha, ha, the Global Population Control Foundation was set up by his father. Oh, I thought it started in 2020. Yeah, right. And his father took over the Thomas Watson IBM Global Eugenics Foundation. Thomas Watson received the highest award ever given by Nazi Germany. A special award made by Adolf Hitler for him. Thomas Watson ran and advised Joseph Mengele. They just elected a pope. Let's put that on screen, even though there's no match. I'm gonna stop there till next hour.

12:16 My god, it makes me so angry and now he's coming out all over with a major giant paid for propaganda news blitz Bill Gates is where oh Elon Musk and Trump are gonna kill everybody. They want to kill poor people. They're billionaires Killing the poor people. That's who Bill Gates is. All right, give me the Pope information put on screen, please Okay, so the smoke has come out

12:56 crowd celebrates election of a new pope. So soon we should, boy I hope it's a more conservative traditionalist one and not one like Francis the black pope. For those who don't know that means a Jesuit pope, which is under canon law illegal because you can't have the guardians of the church, the society of Jesus, the secret police of the Catholic church, what they were set up for by Loyola. be able to then manipulate things to put their people in because then the quote guardians become able to take it over. And in the democratization of the cardinals electing the Pope, which has now happened. So the question is, will the Jesuit globalist, communist, anti-Christ Jesuits, cuz you say, is there an anti-Christ force in the Catholic Church? Yeah, the Jesuits.

13:57 Hillary's been asked many times, what is your thinking? She goes, well, I'm not Catholic, but I am Jew-idical. I was trained by the Jesuits. And so much of the neoliberalism crap you see is the Jesuits. So for the good of the world, the good of Catholics out there, I sure hope they get a Pope that's actually not a globalist. And of course, the Jesuits use the pedophile scandals that they helped set up and infiltrate the church with to then blackmail him in. And that's on record.

14:34 I had Leo Zegami on like five, six years before they put him in, predicting it, explaining it, and then later even all came out in the news, that's how he did it. So you got the white smoke coming out of the smokestack there in the Sistine Chapel, or where they were voting. And as soon as we get that information, we will obviously be announcing that here. A lot happening today, but let me just stop on Gates now, because seriously, When I start thinking about who Bill Gates is and what he represents, and then what this new PR rollout is, and all of it's pure BS at every level. Oh, Trump's cutting all the money to save people with shots around the world. Oh yeah. And so I'm going to accelerate my giving now. We'll explain how the scam works. His profits are tax exempt. And then he sends it, the money from the government funds he gets back to himself.

15:39 The guy is an absolute complete monster. And he's mad that Trump has cut off almost all of his funding he was using. And you always hear, oh, these rich people are giving all their money. Like the One Foundation with Bono, he's the best example. Raising billions a year to help Africa and he gives less than 1%. And then they're on the news, look at these wonderful philanthropists giving all their money away. They don't give money away, they give it to themselves. And Bill Gates is one of the biggest spenders, I mean, billions a year in propaganda. Yeah, Bono's one foundation under five are giving a little over 1%. And then you read that article before that he was giving 0.7%. So then he reformed and now gives 1.2%. And it's a giant money laundering operation for the globalists. It's the same scam over and over and over again.

16:49 300 billion a year conservatively to leftist NGOs of taxpayer money and then large portions of it are stolen by people that run it and then the rest is used for their propaganda. You wonder why we see leftist, anti-human, globalist garbage everywhere? Even though it's super unpopular, it never goes away because they use your tax money to finance all of it. Why do you think most of the private schools and public schools secretly form relationships with your child with social workers telling your girl they're really a boy, your boy they're really a girl? and using psychological warfare to brainwash them. And then if you find out, they're trying to pass laws to take your kid away, saying you're abusing them because you're saying, no, that's my kid. You're not brainwashing. This is about destroying parental rights and our children. It's torture, it's kidnapping, and it's all hiding in plain view. And it's taxpayer money financing it through the NGOs. It's the exact same policies in Europe and around the Western world.

17:51 These are sick, sick, sick evil people. Bono, Tony Blair, Bill Gates, Bill Clinton, look at them. And you watch their World Economic Forum meetings, it's all about depopulating everybody, all about cutting off your resources. Last year, the climate envoy John Kerry, we've got to cut farm production by half or people will starve, that's a quote. Yeah, cut the food by half, people will starve. No one should be able to have a car.

18:27 No private jets, but it's headless. I deserve a private jet, I need it. We have the clip. It's all about a war on logic. And you can get away with it for a while when people only had corporate media. It doesn't work anymore, sweeties. All right, I'm gonna stop now. Rarely does somebody make me as angry as Bill Gates. And again, there's the frustration. When I saw this this morning and then read his BS, and I knew it was gonna be before I looked at it, and saw the whole plan and how dangerous it is, and the top of my head blew off because right now I've got tens of thousands of data points just going zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

19:26 and putting all of his sins onto him. It's the formula of how they operate and how they're preparing to release a new bio weapon and then blame Musk and Trump. Cuz he knows how to do an assault on Musk while, and Trump's doing it too, but Trump's the real target. And they're hopping mad, folks. Here's a microcosm of this, and I'm gonna stop and move on to the next hour. It's out of the news to hit. Warlumer discovers that the new Surgeon General nominee by Trump is a globalist and not even have a medical license currently. She exposes it, RFK's VP, Nicole Shanahan exposes it. They call Trump and he says, I made a mistake, pulls it back. We're doing that all the time. And so that's why Gates is so angry

20:30 I mean, you want to ask is Robert F. Kennedy Jr. for real? Look what he's done so far. But during the nomination process, Gates got caught spending hundreds of millions of dollars in dark money trying to block Trump's election and then over 80 million conservatively that we found targeting the nomination of RFK Jr. for HHS that Gates failed at stopping. And they did it with fake news articles that 20,000 doctors all agree RFK Jr. will get you killed. And that it was fake doctors. Remember that? We broke that. And so again, he's trying to rebrand himself and then say, if you don't let us keep running the world medical system and all the regulatory agencies, if you don't sign on the UN treaty, you're gonna get millions killed any moment. Here's a clip of Gates saying it, here it is.

21:30 Now with these cuts, if they're not reversed, we'll go to over 6 million dying. So instead of going down, we'll go back up. Wow. So it's a difference of 2 million lives. Absolutely. Tommy just makes stuff up. Meanwhile, we got over 30 million dead in insurance actuaries from the COVID operation he ran from the shots. And growing. Bill Gates accused Elon Musk of killing poor children by cutting foreign aid. It says he's giving away his wealth. They will cease operation in 2045. All BS. All right, I'm gonna stop now. I'm gonna stop now. I'm gonna stop now. And then he's behind the geoengineering, everything. My God, it makes me so angry. So I'm gonna revisit all this. Yeah, let's see one more clip of Gates.

22:29 But that's called the death panel, and you're not supposed to have that discussion. were issues related to population. Issues related to population. In 1998, Dr. Zabin became the founding director of the Bill and Melinda Gates Institute for Population Control. Dr. Zabin became the founding director of the Bill and Melinda Gates Institute for Population Control. We see a lot of things that are going very well. Things like reducing childhood death and... Things like reducing childhood death and...

23:11 things like reducing childhood death. First we've got population. The world today has 6.8 billion people. Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by perhaps 10 or 15 percent. Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by perhaps 10 or 15 percent. Is spending a million dollars on that last three months of life for that patient, would it be better not to lay off?

23:48 those 10 teachers and to make that trade-off in medical costs. But that's called the death panel, and you're not supposed to have that discussion. But that's called the death panel, and you're not supposed to have that discussion. Today, the greatest risk of global catastrophe doesn't look like this. Instead, it looks like this. If anything kills over 10 million people in the next few decades, it's most likely to be a highly infectious virus rather than a war.

24:24 If anything kills over 10 million people in the next few decades, it's most likely to be a highly infectious virus. So let's look at each one of these and see how we can get this down to zero. Probably one of these numbers is going to have to get pretty near to zero. Probably one of these numbers is going to have to get pretty near to zero. Now malaria is of course transmitted by mosquitoes. I brought some here so you could experience this. We'll let those roam around the auditorium a little bit. I brought some here so you could experience this. We'll let those roam around the auditorium a little bit. But did you come to reproductive issues?

25:17 as an intellectual? volunteer things. My dad was head of Planned Parenthood. My dad was head of Planned Parenthood. The ultimate solution, the only thing that really lets us go back completely to normal and feel good about sitting in a stadium with lots of other people is to create a vaccine and not just take care of our country but take that vaccine out to the global population take that vaccine out to the global population. We clearly need a vaccine that works in the upper age range because they're most at risk of that. And doing that so that you amp it up so it works in older people and yet you don't have side effects. You know, if we have, you know, one in 10,000 side effects, that's, you know, way more, 700,000

26:18 You know people who will suffer from that way more 700,000 You know people who will suffer from that but you don't have a choice people act like you have a choice people don't Feel like going to the stadium When they might get infected, but you don't have a choice people act like you have a choice What else are we not listening to that? We need to take action on now well the The idea of a bioterrorist attack is kind of the nightmare scenario. The idea of a bioterrorist attack is kind of the nightmare scenario. The economy is not going to be anything like it was. It's going to take a long time to recover. It's going to be, you know, people are going to be surprised at how slow and how fitful this is. It's going to take a long time to recover. It's going to be, you know, people are going to be surprised at how slow and how

27:13 How fitful this is. Is there something to worry about with medicines? That is might some of them have side effects. Do we need safety testing? I mean, and we're taking things that are, you know, genetically modified organisms and we're injecting them in little kids arms. We just shoot them right into the vein. Ladies and gentlemen, I am known for steering people straight. Alex Jones was right. Tomorrow's news today. And that The foundational mission that we have in news and information is the exact same mission I have when it comes to products that we sell you to fund the operation. I want you to get products that really work, that you love, that you want to get again and again. Well, right now at RealAlexJones.com, we have a sale going of 10% on top of the sales that are already there

29:41 Kingpin Francis, the Jesuit black pope, and we're going to find out if they've elected a traditionalist or a globalist here in a moment. Then we have just huge news on the India Pakistan front, massive news with Trump and just huge success country after country signing on to the trade plan that Trump put forward to them. That's not one sided and helps the American people, but also is fair. Kare Starmer capitulating, Carney capitulating, 10, 15 countries a day signing on, massive success, total global political realignment.

30:30 That's coming up and so much more today, but let's let's go see some of the live Fox coverage and what they're saying right now about the election of the new pope. And they say any moment now, they've got the Swiss Guard out there marching into formation. They're going to be announcing a good chance of laughing right now. Here we go. Jonathan Morris here, as we observe this absolutely breathtaking scene. You know, Jonathan, as we look at this pomp and circumstance, it's beautiful, but I just want to remind the audience, you know, I've seen comparisons to Buckingham Palace and it's really not what this is about. What this is all about is what Francis Arenzi said. He's a bishop and he said, we want a Pope who's full of fire for the kingdom of Christ. We want someone who's going to spread the gospel. Just that.

31:14 This is about a moment where Catholics have picked who will represent 50% of Christians in the world. That is the percentage of Catholics when you look at Christianity as a whole. It doesn't appear that we have father more. Yeah, he's here go ahead. Yeah I'm a little bit overwhelmed. Yeah, so any moment the new bub's gonna walk out on the balcony for radio listeners They can't see this there at Vatican City Where the last so-called Pope said you know have 300 400 foot walls the bigger ones some are 100 feet

31:53 The shortest ones are 80 feet. You can't have walls for your country and you should open your borders up and take people into your homes, but the Vatican didn't take one person in. So total hypocrite, total globalist who used pedophile scandals to take control of the church and said nothing. in the West with the German government, the British government, the other UK nations, the US under Biden, waging war on conservative Catholics, calling them the number one terror threat despite no crime of any type of terror being committed by any Catholic. I mean, go look it up. It's like complete BS. Catholics engaged in terror, they're the number one terror threat because they're

32:39 Traditionalist or conservative? My God, they want a Latin mass. These people are dangerous. I mean, it's ridiculous. So I wonder if the new pope will say we should have open borders and it disgust him to hear about Christian roots in Europe. That's a quote. Let's go back to the feed. We'll come out and then we'll say his given name by his parents, his first and middle name and then his last name. And then he that Cardinal will say he has taken the name and he will say the name of the new pope. It's going to be, you know, the beauty here is because the church has had a long time to practice this, a couple thousand years, but it's all new today because it's a new chapter in the Catholic Church. Let's listen in again for a moment, take in this beautiful scene.

34:15 To bring down the West, all major institutions have to be taken over from the inside out. And the capture of the Catholic Church, and you can debate whether it was captured or infiltrated,

34:53 like any other institution before, but there was no doubt with Francis. And Catholics all over the world recognize that. It's been major pressure for them to elect an actual Catholic, and that'll be another sign of the global realignment back to the West, and back to sanity if it does happen. Because if the globalists lose control of the Catholic Church, they don't have control of people, but the control system of it, that is another big victory. So I'm Again, for people that are like, I don't care about the Catholics or what's that matter? I mean, this is all important to everybody because Francis really helped get the globalist invasion of Europe going even worse. He just, he did so much. I mean, it's just, I mean, you have to say he's a horrible person. Again, if you just tuned in, we got live feed from the Vatican here.

36:08 of the election of the new Pope. What number Pope is this? In the thousands of years? Since... I'd say Constantine would be the first one, unofficially. There is a new Pope developing. 267th. Francis appointed 108 of the 133 cardinals voting for his successor. Yeah, and if they get another globalist Pope in, then they'll have a majority of their operatives in, and then

36:46 You could officially say that the Catholic Church has been captured completely by the beast system. That's my opinion. I'm not trying to attack Catholics or anybody. Catholics are great people. On average, Catholics I know are wonderful. This is just, I know they're the most concerned people about this. This is just, I mean, this is not as important as getting Trump elected, but almost. I mean, it's a big deal. Half the Christians in the world are Catholics.

37:22 And they've got institutions everywhere. And you saw Catholic Charities, one of the worst, so-called Catholic Charities running illegal aliens into the US, Europe, you name it. We need to understand this is important. The suspense is really bad here. And they always have him come out before the sun sets behind, what is it, the Basilica, they call it? So there should be any men in here. St. Peter's Basilica. You see, I don't care about some NFL

38:01 overtime, Super Bowl. That doesn't matter. I don't have any suspense, you know, watching a football game like that. I have suspense here. Please don't let it be a globalist. I mean, you know, Francis saying all these communists and leftist leaders, oh, they can have communion even though they're pro-abortion. It's blasphemous. And Pope Francis, in my opinion, was a blasphemous person. I mean, that's really bad when you got somebody representing

38:48 The biggest denomination of Christians who in every way is not a Christian by his actions. But that's how Satan operates. He captures control of things. Oh boy. A lot of suspense here. Hey, see if you can get Leo Zagami on. I should have thought to get him on today. I just... so much going on. I'm actually sick to my stomach right now with the suspense. All right. Well...

39:49 Regardless, the sleeping giant of humanity has awakened. We're seeing the biggest revivals across the board of people waking up that there is a fight between good versus evil. Evil's really taking the mask off. And so, but if they get another pope in for 10 years or whatever, I mean, they'll have, as cardinals die and they appoint all the new ones, they'll have 80% of the cardinals being operatives. And then it's, I mean, that'll be it. I mean, if you thought Francis was bad, they're going to be really emboldened and arrogant. Remember, they kicked Vigiano, or however you pronounce it, a great guy, really smart anti-globalist out of the Catholic Church, excommunicated him because he was criticizing the globalist takeover and saying the church has been captured by Satan basically at the top. It's true. And people that bash Catholics all day go, well, it was bad before. The point is, it's real bad right now. And I mean, it's never been anywhere, anything like this. There's been some, you know,

41:21 Obviously, Popes that weren't the best in history. But comparing like John Paul II or something and a lot of hardcore Catholics are like, he wasn't good. But I mean, compared to this guy. So we'll see if the Jesuit coup beachhead they got with Francis over the last decade, however long it's been. How long is Francis? How long was he the Pope? Eight years, nine years? I forget.

42:02 We'll see if that beachhead they got now takes over the Catholic Church for good. Because I mean, I don't know how once they get all the cardinals, how you ever reverse that. 12 years, man, time flies. Oh, that's right, because he had the other Pope step down. First time that. You know, that was the Jesuit coup in there, using the pedophile blackmail to control the church.

42:38 which Zogami was saying 20 years ago, and it would be Francis they put in, and he was right when nobody was saying that. And it was even hit all the news that they use pedophile blackmail to get control. Just like the globalists do with all these other agencies and intelligence agencies, Epstein, all of that. That's how they do it. It's a damn cult. And it's taking over everything. But now the world's waking up to it. All right, any minute now, we will see

49:34 from all these countries represented, but it's a moment of joy. And you think about, you know, in our own lives and really in the business that we're in, we don't see a ton of joy in a lot of the stuff we cover, but this is one of those moments. Now listen, the sun's gonna set at 816 in Rome, but I think we're gonna see the man, whoever that man is, long before that. You know, tradition dictates within an hour or so. I would think the window here is anywhere between the next 10 or 20 minutes before they walk out there. And then Harris, we were on the couch yesterday asking the question, in which direction does this church choose to go?

50:18 And do they, after choosing a pope from Germany and from Poland and then Argentina, do they bring it back to Europe? Do they bring it back to the country of Italy where it had been for almost 500 years? Or Harris, when you consider that 25 new countries for the first time have a cardinal in this conclave, does the church reach out to the continent of Africa? where the Catholic Church is growing at a rate where you won't find it anywhere else in the planet as quickly as Africa and there are some leading candidates from the continent as well. Do they go to Southeast Asia? You've heard a lot about the Cardinal from the Philippines. Is that the choice? Listen, as Americans we have to consider the possibility as

51:08 much as many others may try and lessen that possibility, there's a chance there could be an American that walks out on that logic. And I was talking with Jonathan yesterday, and he said if that happens, he'll cry. And I imagine a lot of people in the Catholic Church in America will do that as well. Just one more comment here. I think Jonathan Morris nailed it 40 minutes ago. He said, this is not about a man. And then went on to explain what you're seeing on the faces of those in St. Peter's Square, it's about a movement and it's about the hope and the faith that they chose well. And we're about to find out. You know, in watching this this week, it reminds me so much that, and I loved when Jonathan said this moments ago, sometimes people need a reminder of what true faith and love of God looks like.

52:02 And there are messengers that the Lord chooses. And throughout this process, I kept hearing bishops say, and Bishop Bonucci was on with this yesterday for the Faulkner Focus, and I kept hearing him say, the Lord is at work now to make this election. In Conclave, there are 133 cardinals, but in all ways, there is God. And I really respected and wore that in my heart ever since those words because you trust that this is someone who can make some changes in people's hearts, maybe attract them to Christianity, perhaps Catholicism. Well, we're about to see one of the most famous faces in the whole world. Yes. Because their life, at least in their earthen vessel here on this planet, is about to change forever.

52:49 You know, Bill, you privately shared with me yesterday, I don't think you'd mind me revealing your prediction that we would have a new Pope before Friday. Well, we sit here at 1256 p.m. Eastern Standard Time and we are going to have a new Pope within minutes. You will hear Proto-Deacon Cardinal Momberti say, I announce to you with great joy we have a Pope. It will be in Latin, the most eminent and most reverend Lord, insert a name. By Bill Hemmer standards, are you surprised at the timing of this? Four votes, 89 people coming together, led by the Holy Spirit to announce the name we will hear any moment. The only thing that surprises me is that there was some conjecture that this could go on for a while because so many of these Cardinals did not know each other as well as they needed to know each other.

53:41 We've got massive second, third, and fourth hour coming up. Please stay with us. We'll join our regularly scheduled program after these messages. When I report to you... that InfoWars and my work and my crew's work and our guests' work over the years has changed the world and is recognized by the bad guys and the good guys for being absolutely critical to the huge global awakening and the massive defeats the global is taking place. I don't tell you that to brag. I don't tell you that to puff myself up. I tell you that because it's true and you need to recognize how effective our populist movement in America has been, not just here, but all over the world. That is the reality. That is an example of people power. And the fact that what we're promoting, liberty and freedom in the American system and classic competition, God, country, family, is diametrically opposed to eat the bugs and sterilize your children and have a nuclear war. So I want to be very, very clear to everybody out there.

58:29 Who they think it's going to be that's usually accurate. So let's look at him. Here. He is right here. Pytro Parolin. That's how you say it is a is a conservative anti same-sex marriage anti-globalist and they haven't had an Italian Pope in a long time, but it could also be this conservative Peter Turkson out of

59:05 Africa, the conservative Gaon and Cardinal leading the African church, a top contender to become the next Pope. And so he's not a globalist. He's got a good record, they say. So we will watch this very, very closely, obviously here as the suspense continues to build. Now, who knows if the main betting sites are going to be right this time, but they are generally vast majority of the time right. Because you've got all these millions of people betting on things and there's a lot of knowledge of the crowd and people do their research and tends to hit it. So we will see what happens here very, very soon. Like I said, though, as soon as this announcement is made, we'll look at it, we'll move on. We'll get some guests on today, tomorrow, analyze the details.

1:00:07 And look at the repercussions of that. But I really want to hit the big victories on the trade deals that are a lot bigger than just trade deals. It's about a global political realignment. And the UK capitulating completely to what Trump wanted and a bunch of others doing in India. I mean, just the list goes on and on, more countries every day. Trump was saying in press conference a few days ago, he said, man, it might be 30. We might announce 30 deals early next week. That's how many we've got basically done. And that's exciting because under globalist policies...

1:00:44 It was deindustrialized the West and the US was the main target of that. And again, the globalists made deals with the countries like China to be the middlemen to screw us, they would get a big piece of it. And they would use that to consolidate even more power and more control. And they had this model of cutting off the resources to the general public so they could dictate the terms of our surrender. That's why they want you poor. Tyrants always want you poor because if you're independent and can take care of yourself, well, you don't need them. And you can be more easily punished and controlled, especially with a social credit score, as Larry Fink said they would do if you are poor. So they are at war with prosperity, they're at war with peace, they're at war with tranquility, they're at war with competition and success, because that's not good for the wicked. They want to control people, it's very simple. And I know everybody knows that, but it's always important to restate that.

1:01:43 So we come back, I'm going to start getting into the trade developments and news in case this goes on and on. But it really should be any minute because the sun is setting. But that's the tradition to do that right around the time of sunsets. So we will see, we'll be right back in 60 seconds, please stay with us. All right, about 80 minutes ago, they elected a new pope, the cardinals there at the Vatican City. And As tradition has right around sunset, they have the new pub come out on the balcony. And so if you're a TV viewer, we've got live feeds of that. The betting markets that are the most accurate generally for predicting major political elections and religious elections like this, has this Italian cardinal, Pietro Parolin as 65% the winner, because they haven't had a

1:02:36 Italian public a long time. Also, he's very conservative and then the conservatives know that if they get another globalist Pope, they're going to be voted out forever. They've got Louis Antonio Tagli 23% and it just goes on from there that we've heard a lot about Peter Turkson the Cardinal out of Africa who's also conservative, and he'd be the first black pope. I don't mean black as in a Jesuit pope. That's what we just had that violates Catholic law basically. You're not supposed to have the defenders of the church group then be able to take it over because they would then set up a coup like we've been seeing with the ongoing globalist activities of Francis. So we'll continue to watch that as it unfolds. But

1:03:28 I want to talk about Trump and the so-called trade deals. It's a lot bigger than trade, and under the globalist system, they de-industrialized us by design to control us. And even Aristotle, the most famous philosopher of all time, said, it is also in the interest of the tyrant to make his subjects poor. The people are so preoccupied with their daily tasks that they have no time for plotting, plotting their own life, plotting their own interest. That's why communism makes you poor on purpose. That's why it always does that. Any totalitarian system wants the general public at a subsistence level. That is the system of feudalism. Plenty of resources, but they're kept from the public in a class society like you've seen in India and everywhere else. And it happens over and over and over and over again. And the Renaissance, the last 500 years in the West, is about decentralizing power and empowering the people, and then it raises everybody up.

1:04:31 But that's not good for tyranny. So when the Democrats and the leftists, the communists promise all these goodies, they admit their cloud and ribbon strategy. That's just a modern political philosophy on the philosophy of tyrants that already existed. They didn't invent that. It's just a Democrat Party policy since the 70s to get everybody addicted to government money, get people domesticated, get them dumbed down, and then crash the capitalist system And then bring in a total tyranny in the name of giving everybody free stuff, but then you learn you don't get free anything. Oh, healthcare is free, you just don't ever get to see a doctor. And it's cold-blooded, and it's done by design, like everything else the globalists do. And that's the official plan of the Great Reset, the UN, the WF, is the Great Reset collapsing the capitalist society, because they say it's wasteful for you to have air conditioning or a car, but they get to fly around on private jets like Bernie Sanders. No one should have private jets, they're bad.

1:05:39 But I get one, I'm important. So do as I say, not as I do. So President Trump has announced a major trade deal with the United Kingdom and tied to that is the United Kingdom starmer claiming he won't keep doing all the tyranny and arresting people that pray outside abortion clinics and all the rest of that remains to be seen. But his last administration, the EU and the UK promised to do these deals and they never did them. So Trump just went ahead, forced it, It ended up being one hell of a deal for the US. Right to next door to our 6 billion in new tariff revenues. US trade on imports from UK raised to 10%. UK tariffs on imports from US lowered to 1.8. 5 billion in new exports from the US. And you ask, well, why did they agree to have a super low tariff on us and then we have a big one on them? Because they have a lot of built-in other than monetary tariffs.

1:06:42 and taxes and regulations that preclude our goods. And this is the formula that Trump's team came up with and they've agreed to it. That's why it's an a la carte per country negotiations going on. And the left's like, we don't know what's happening. It's a whipsaw. Well, that's what negotiations are like. And Starmer literally groveled to him today in a phone call on speakerphone that aired. And then of course, we have Carney that attacked Trump viciously two weeks ago, but this week rolled over. Other than a statement about, well, we're not for sale. No, no, yeah, cuz the globalists are in control of Canada right now. Trump's saying, why don't you join us? The US actually have representation. But I don't think that's a good idea cuz Canada's so leftist. But certainly it can be an economic 51st state that can be to benefit of all of us. Instead of hundreds of billions to them and then no benefits to US citizens. And even the Canadians just get paid double, triple prices and everything because Canada has monopolies and combines and cartels, which is another name for oligopoly.

1:07:47 a group of companies working and forming the equivalent of a monopoly. That's what Canadians pay, again, double, triple on average for everything, food, energy, you name it, because there's no competition, because they have controlled trade. So it hurts them too, not just us, and Trump's totally right about that. Let's go to a clip of Trump talking about the trade deal and its benefits. Here it is. In addition, the UK will reduce or eliminate numerous non-tariff barriers that unfairly discriminated against American products. But this is now turning out, I think, really to be a great deal for both countries because it'll be really great for the UK also. So they're opening up the country. Their country is a little closed and we appreciate that.

1:08:41 They'll also be fast tracking American goods through their customs process. So our exports go to a very, very quick form of approval and there won't be any red tape. Things are going to move very quickly both ways. The final details are being written up in the coming weeks. We'll have it all very conclusive. But the actual deal is a very conclusive one. We think just about everything's been approved. So good for both countries. The doors are opening. We're gonna go back to Trump in a statement in a moment, but they're bringing out the new Pope. Here he is. Here we are. The Cardinal Proto-Deacon. And he's smiling. He's smiling. He will give us the announcement. Here we are. Annuncio vobis, gaudium magnum.

1:09:54 We have the Pope, the most eminent and revered Lord, the Lord Robert Francis, the Cardinal of the Holy Roman Church, who named himself Leo XIV. So the Pope is Cardinal Robert Francis Provost, who's taken the name of Leo XIV, Pope Leo XIV.

1:10:55 Cardinal Pervos is an American and he spent most of his ministry in Latin America and in Peru and also in Paraguay. And he's an Augustinian father. He was the provincial in Latin America and then became the Bishop of Chiclayo in Peru. And he then is also, he became the superior general of the Augustinian fathers as well. He's now the, he's been the prefect of the dicastery for bishops. We see the cardinal electors, they're appearing on the balcony there as well with this joy and their smiles on their face. I congratulate them on the

1:11:48 Well, it wasn't one of those fabulous things, what to say. What a great joy. It's a wonderful joy. And he's from Chicago. Yes. Illinois. Okay. An American. An American. Yes. Thanks. An American. I think that's a historic moment. For sure. It is truly, truly historic. And you can see all the cardinals on the different balconies there. For our radio listeners, you may not be able to see this, of course, but they're appearing on all the balconies to the left and right of the central balcony there. All of them clearly standing out with their red vestments and smiles and waiting to get it for all of us to greet this new pope as well. Which now we know his name. Cardinal Robert Francis, Provost Augustinian.

1:12:37 And has served as prefect for bishops. A native of Chicago, Illinois in the United States. And so as we said before, you know, you saw all the flags and everything out in the square and now all the Americans are holding their flags. It's a historical moment. Well, it wasn't the Italian and I'm not an expert on this. We're trying to find out is this guy a conservative? Let's go back to the feed. The continuation of the evangelization mission of the church. The priority, yeah. So you can see still the little pockets of red where all the cardinals are standing on the balconies. From our Vati drone footage, you know, and seeing it from above there, it's a unique view perched above in front of the facade and looking down at them as they're on the

1:13:39 balconies there awaiting now as the new Pope as we mentioned there Cardinal Robert Francis Prevost and Pope Leo XIV. Pope Leo XIV. And of course Leo XIII was the great social reforming pope for our city. And he died in 1903, so still fairly recent in the grand scheme of things. Yes, exactly. Good memory. from my son every day. So he started like a train. And probably I would say, a Pope needed for our times, with all the social challenges the world has today. And he's relatively young, 69 years old, born on the 14th of September 1955, as you mentioned, in Chicago.

1:14:42 Illinois and so 69. Well, and Father Paul, as you were just saying, I agree and maybe Father Bob you can really stress this point because you work in social humanitarian... Exactly. Integral human development. This is an important aspect of the Church. The Catholic social teaching is important. Very. And it's often called the and then told story of the church or perhaps the hidden secret of the church. It has so much. All right, here's the bottom line. Pope Leo, Pope Leo XIV, an American cardinal from Chicago, is a Pope Francis-lite. So he doesn't think they need to have women priests, so they call that conservative. That's just standard.

1:15:39 But he's for open borders and all the rest of it. So that is not good. Basically, he used the term gay and transgender communications as a first for a pope and met regularly with members of the LGBT community. That's Pope Francis, but it's saying that this guy basically supported that. So we will continue to follow that.

1:16:20 But the big thing is he supported Francis on worshipping the migrants and saying everybody's got a lot of men, but of course the Vatican City doesn't have to. So they're calling him a moderate with views close to Pope Francis. That's what you get from chat GPT and what you get from the corporate media. So they're calling him a centrist like Pope Francis. Oh yeah, Pope Francis is a centrist. So that's what we always were told. Oh, he's very centrist. Oh yes. So There's the gimmick that he's American showing how much power shifted back to United States. And of course you see the Catholic Church helping the UN. I mean, it doesn't just help it. It's one of the top offenders run invasions of Europe and the US and the rest of the West. And so they just suck in billions and billions a year of government money to do that. Trump's been cutting that off. But I don't know, we'll have to learn more about this guy, but it does not look good to me. We can open the phones up.

1:17:38 in the fourth hour, if Catholics know more about this than I do, and I know quite a bit, but not as much as traditional Catholics out there I know that are really up on all this. Hey, let's see what Mel Gibson thinks. I wonder if he said anything yet. I know he's really on top of everything. So is his son. So we will, I guess I could call them, try to find what they think. But Robert Francis Prevost,

1:18:19 Born September 14th, 55, is an American Catholic. He has been the prefect of the diocastra of bishops and president of the Pontifical Commission for Latin America. He was the bishop in Peru in 2015, 2023. He has made a cardinal in 2023 by Pope Francis. He was born in Chicago, Illinois. All right. His eyes don't look evil like Francis. I mean, Francis looks evil to me. I mean, not just the actions. Looks like an evil dude. You have to go with your gut too. So he doesn't look evil. Now those aren't really evil eyes are they now? A little bit. Well, we're gonna have to see the actions. But boy, it could have been a lot better. So the betting markets were wrong. Rarely are. This guy wasn't even really

1:19:37 Making the grade. So I guess the Fox News host Hemmer called it. He said, I think it could be American Pope. We could be seeing a first year. All right, let's go back to the live feed here. Very special moment. Very special moment. And here he is. There he is. And the applause going up, the greeting, the waving. Thanks to Spinells. How amazing. How amazing. And Dr. Leslev is also talking about the symbolism of the red that he's wearing. You know, it is a sacrificial roll and that is the symbol of the cloth that he's wearing right now. And we see this beautiful close-up view from the side there at the same level as the Lodz Poplio XIV. Poplio XIV. Amazing. Smiling. Smiling, probably. And you can see who wouldn't be

1:20:37 taken by the moment. I think going through his mind, you know, the weight of his responsibility. Oh yeah, you can see it on his face. Amazing. After this, you'll never be the same person. No. And we're hearing the bands below the mutual salute of the anthems, the hymns of the Vatican hymn and the Italian national anthem as we do traditionally at the Easter and Christmas, as we've mentioned. And after this, now, Pope Leo XIV, he will give a greeting and impart his first apostolic blessing, the Urbi et Urbi, to the city and to the whole world. So that blessing extends to everyone who is watching, everyone who is listening, your family, wherever you are. It's a great moment to prepare ourselves for this fourth. All right, in the fourth hour, and I will do the whole hour on this, I will open the phones up for

1:22:28 Catholics to call in and give their take on this. We'll do research in the time being on this guy. I can just tell you that this does not look good, but he's not as bad as Francis on a first look. All right, he's speaking, let's go to him. This is the first greeting of the risen Christ, the good shepherd who gave his life for the grace of God.

1:23:10 I would also like this greeting of peace to enter your hearts, to reach your families, to all people, wherever they may be, to all peoples, to the whole earth. Peace be with you. We're just hearing the first words of Pope Leo XIV as he continues. We'll provide a summary here in just a moment as we listen to his words. He's asked everyone to... This is the peace of the risen Christ.

1:24:09 Peace that is disarming and humble and persevering. It comes from God. God who loves all of us. All right, we're gonna break. I'm gonna come back and I'm gonna go into Bill Gates because this is really, really important. And then we'll table the new Pope until the fourth hour. We got a lot of news coming up. Remember, you're the Paul Revere's, you're how we reach more people in the information war. You're the emissaries, you're the ambassadors. of the truth. Get it out there. Share the live feed now at Real Alex Jones on X. Stay with us. Share that live feed.

1:24:53 I don't know. I'm scared. She looks very excited, ladies and gentlemen. Bottoms up. That's only about a half dose. I had a lot of coffee before I came here. I'm not going to lie. Well, I want to explain something. It doesn't give you the jitters. It is not a stimulant. It just, it's electrochemical and ups the electrical activity in all your cells. Do I have to drink it all? Whatever you'd like to do. I'm just going to take a little sip, OK? And then I'm going to tell you how it tastes. All right. Oh, it's actually pretty good. Tastes like minty. Am I gonna get like all shaky? Probably not. Probably. We'll see what happens. I think you're gonna be a big fan asking for some before you leave. That's what everybody else does. Roseanne Barr was here last week and was so tired she barely did the show until 15 minutes after she took it.

1:25:31 Just a few more drinks there. Oh my gosh. I'm literally drinking the Kool-Aid over here. Jedi, there is time to drink as well. It does taste good though. Yoda. Let me just sit on that for a second. You have done well. See how you feel in 15 minutes. OK. A few moments later. All right, folks. You just saw Becca on air, but she's off air now. She took it about 30 minutes ago. She said it felt a little bit on air. She took a quarter dose. She said she was feeling a little bit more now. What are you feeling? Kind of like I had a cup of coffee. Like, it's pretty good. I think that it's good to replace my coffee. I'm not lying when I say it tastes good. It's very refreshing. Well, thank you so much for coming in. I didn't know you've been listening for 30 years. Well, you know, it was like my dad would take me out in the car to lunch and stuff. And you'd be on the radio. And I'd be with my headphones in, right? So yeah, this is good. Well, the best part about this is, unlike coffee, it's not even a stimulant. It electrifies your cells and cleans them out. The feeling good is a secondary thing that's doing to your whole body.

1:26:30 Yeah. But not all methylene blue is credit equal. We've got the best. My mitochondria feels very clean right now. Well, hey, we'll give you a bottle next time you're on. Let us know the long-term effects, OK? I will. Thank you so much. All right. Thanks, Alex. Bye. Now with these cuts, if they're not reversed, we'll go to over six million dying. So instead of going down, we'll go back up. Wow. So it's a difference of two million lives. Absolutely. Is there something to worry about with medicines? That is, might some of them have side effects? Do we need safety testing? I mean, we're taking things that are genetically modified organisms and we're injecting them in little kids' arms. We just shoot them right into the vein.

1:27:16 All right, there was a massive corporate media push that Bill Gates paid for, that's on record, across the entire US media, global media, that Elon Musk is gonna kill millions and millions of people because Doge is in there cutting foreign aid to Bill Gates' mad scientist activities everywhere. The torturing beagles to death with flesh-eating worms, the injecting children and giving them oral live polio, which AP and Reuters admit is the main cause of polio now, run by Bill Gates. Bill Gates with his funding and government funding he gets creating COVID-19. Fauci, all of them work for him. Bill Gates' dad ran Planned Parenthood. Bill Gates' foundation was originally named the Global Population Control Foundation. They changed the name in 2000 to the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.

1:28:18 And he's on record saying kill old people, euthanasia, cut people's medical care, force inject everyone, have lockdowns. He wants to blot out the sun. He supports all the secret government geoengineering that they're now admitting they've been doing. To quantify how bad he is, is a tall order because there's so much. He is the most hated person on earth, hands down. The architect of the lockdowns and the tyranny. And then he comes out with a new political relaunch

1:28:56 All about how Musk, and by extension Trump, are gonna get everybody killed and these new viruses are gonna imminently come get us and these new viruses are gonna appear because of global warming. No, out of laboratories he's financed. And then there's the huge lie that he's a philanthropist. What he does is he made his companies and his wealth tax exempt completely in 2000, they're already partially. He then puts a large portion of the profit, I'll explain how, of that money into buying policy at the UN and in nations around the world, including here in the United States, getting his people into positions of power in the regulatory agencies, then they go get governments to sign on with government grants and NGOs and the hundreds of billions a year around the world, back into companies and organizations he owns or his foundation controls,

1:29:55 including private companies he's heavily invested in for the so-called vaccines and other drugs that then become the recommended vaccines, the recommended drugs to the public. So he controls your medical care, he's your doctor. That's not a secret, even court media is like, oh Bill Gates is great, he really controls medical policy almost everywhere. Only China and Russia wouldn't take the Pfizer, Moderna and other frankenshot injections during all of that. He was out there, oh sorry, we have to stay locked down, that's the way it is, ha ha ha. So it's a relaunch of the globalists, it's a rebranding of Gates, putting what he is, the top globalist death cult eugenicist on record. You can say he's the kingpin responsible for all the death. There are a lot of others, but he's the boss. His dad was the boss over the main depopulation globalist foundation.

1:30:54 that he took over for IBM, who Thomas Watson created, the global top eugenicist on record, given the highest award ever given by Nazi Germany. And Bill Gates has bragged about all of this with his dad, Bill Gates Sr. So this is amazing. And so it's a public threat to the world. Like he from Tedros to WHO and Hotez and Fauci and all the mouthpieces. Oh, if you don't keep doing what we're doing and taking all the shots,

1:31:30 Well, then the new virus is going to show up and kill everybody. Oh, a new virus is going to challenge the Trump administration. Hotez, all of them. So here's Bill Gates saying, oh, if you don't bring the funding back, the deadly viruses are going to get you. And then who was the main funder of EcoHealth Alliance that was just the front group? for bringing the virus to China so they could cover up that it was from Chapel Hill, North Carolina and the National Institutes of Health National Initiative by Obama in 2012, 13, 14, 15 got exposed. They moved it from North Carolina to Wuhan, China. We've had the vice president on, Dr. Huff blowing the whistle, all of it. And at the heart of it all is Bill Gates and Fauci. And Fauci was back in power in the 80s, putting the HIV, it's come out in the

1:32:20 hepatitis shots in key gay homosexual populations in New York, San Francisco, this has all come out, as vectors to then spread the virus. And then they sell toxic deadly drugs that they make money off of to the whole world and US taxpayers quote, helping Africa pay to then ship the drugs to those countries. And it's actually the drugs that kill you worse than the virus. If you get real medical care like Magic Johnson, you recover from it all the time. Charlie Sheen's had HIV for Decades it turns out just fine because he didn't take the AZT and the rest of it. So this is a giant fraudulent system just like rendezvir liquefies your organs, kills you. But that was the only drug that they got approved globally because they control the regulators. It's the same thing with the AIDS drugs, all of it. It's about depopulation. Bayer got caught knowingly putting HIV and hepatitis in to factor eight clotting product

1:33:20 And it came out in lawsuits and criminal indictments in Australia and France. They just said, so what? There's so many hemophiliacs. Ha ha ha. This is the not just attitude, but the mission of these people. So it's a public threat. It's trying to flip the script and say, oh, it's Elon Musk and Trump. And you watch a new virus is about to hit you. It's about to get you. That's the talking point. And it rebrands him as well. I'm gonna give all my money now even faster because Trump and Musk have cut the money off, but he gets your taxpayer money. And then it goes back to all of his companies and his wealth gets greater and greater and greater and greater and greater and greater. And they call it philanthropy, just like the UN and the WEF has raised tens of billions through the one foundation with Bono as the front man.

1:34:11 And they all have giant palaces and jets and everything they live off of and they give 1% of the money actually to Africa. And that's with strings attached. Oh, you want some AZT? You want a drug that'll kill you? When the Africans have figured it out, they refuse at all. That's why Africa had the lowest uptake of the COVID shots and of course the lowest death rate. The Africans have figured it out. And you can go back to articles in the Wall Street Journal, New York Times, Leningradian back in 2009. They're like, oh, the good club. With all these top billionaires led by Bill Gates at the Albert Einstein Institute in New York, Albert Einstein University, they meet to talk about how to have a world government covertly to depopulate you and how their mission is depopulating. We just put that on screen. Go read the article for yourself. It's all right there. They're so good. And if you scroll down to the different articles, Warren Buffett, Bill Gates, George Soros, Oprah Winfrey,

1:35:10 Ted Turner, all those depopulationists, David Rockefeller. They say the goal is global depopulation. They pulled up the London Guardian version. I know it's in the Wall Street Journal when they actually admit it. See if that's got the quote in there from their own document. So they're telling you out of one side of their mouth what they're doing. Yep, to stop overpopulation. And Bill Gates famously 15, 20 years ago, 18 years ago, whatever it was, at the TED Talk said, we got to get this number down to stop carbon and the number's humans. And everybody laughs because they're in on the club of depopulationist death cult, which is the club of Rome, globalist think tanks since the 60s that developed the current plan we're under. So

1:36:04 He thinks, well, Doge has been demonized, Musk is under attack. I won't attack Trump frontally. I'll just say Elon's a rich billionaire killing poor people. When that's exactly what his stated goal and aim is. He's given himself awards at their foundation that's really named the Global Population Control Foundation. Bill Gates accused Elon Musk of killing children with US aid cuts. Gates nukes Musk, world's richest killing poorest, close quote. Oh yeah, it's not Bill Gates killing people and saying he wants to, it's all Elon Musk fault. The picture of the world's richest man killing the world's poorest children is not a pretty one, said Gates, who told the Times that he loved for him, Musk, to go in and meet the children. They have now been infected with HIV because he cut American aid that had been going to hospitals in Mozambique. Why are the children getting HIV?

1:37:08 They're putting on the shots they've been caught. Pull up, Reuters. Majority of global polio cases from the UN's polio vaccine program and Bill and Melinda Gates program run that. Reuters AP. The 200 billion gamble Bill Gates planned to wind down his foundation by 2045. Oh, all about how he's giving money and how nice he is. 20 years to give away virtually all my wealthy rights. He's such a nice man. Meanwhile, he goes to Debo's, famously, and says, oh, I make 20 to 1 profits, 15 to 1 profits off my vaccine programs. They're all laughing at us. I'm going to table that now and get more into it later. Because we got Leo Zagami, the Vatican expert on. I've been to Rome with him. He's got all the different contacts, able to get into areas nobody else says he predicted

1:38:14 Years before Francis, the first Jesuit Pope was put in, that it would happen, how they'd use blackmail to take control. And it even came out mainstream news later that that is how Francis was able to get control. We know the Jesuits helped set up infiltration of communists and pedophiles into the Catholic church. So Leo Zagame, we have the first American Pope being brought in. From my first glance, I'm not an expert like you, he appears to be globalist Francis Light, at least from the surface, Light version. of Francis agreeing with most of it, but they build Francis as a moderate. Of course, you document that he's not, but you are the Vatican expert of experts. What is your take on this individual and were you expecting this, Leo Zagami? Think and best-selling author, researcher, I should add. Go ahead, Leo.

1:39:03 Thank you, Alex, for having me on. This is of course a pivotal moment and a turning point in the history of the Catholic Church following, of course, the teachings and what was already outlined by Pope Francis, who just before he went into hospital was working with the US Bishop Conference on yet again, waging war against the Trump presidency. This is a sign by the cardinals that rather than choosing somebody from Asia or from Africa, they wanted to actually insidiously nominate and elevate to the pontificate somebody who is American. It's the first time in history

1:39:46 But Robert Francis Prevost is no friend of Donald J. Trump. He is, of course, somebody who comes from Chicago, but also with a vast history in South America that connects him to the infamous Jesuit order. And he is from an order himself, the Augustinians, who have worked hand in hand with the Jesuits on the control of the educational establishment. Today, if you think about the main issues Trump is trying to fight, immigration policies, well, in this regard, he will have to fight against this Pope because he's very much a supporter of what the Democrats were doing, open borders and all the rest. When it comes down to transgenderism and all that, that's another issue the Jesuits and of course this new Pope

1:40:35 have been pushing, being open to transgenderism and LGBTQ. And then you have, aside from all this, also the Vatican-China deal that this pope will continue to support, which is a way for China of creeping inside the Catholic Church. The policies of the NGOs that of course are connected with the Vatican and the Catholic Church, are the ones that have supported this massive immigration that has brought us in the situation where we are now. Of course, systematic warfare by the judicial system is also waged with the support of the Vatican. So this is no friend of

1:41:22 of real America. This is actually going to become a problem because most people, simple people, people, the ordinary folk would say, wow, we finally have the first American Pope. What a great thing. It's not a great thing. And I have outlined in my new book that just came out how Pope Francis has rigged this conclave which nominated his successor so he could have have, of course, 80 percent of the cardinals on his side and nominate somebody who will follow in the policies of Vatican II. Those policies that Pope Francis said were only completed by 50 percent. There's another 50 percent that will, of course, not only destroy what remains of Christianity, but then eventually will bring us to the integration with other

1:42:14 Because now the next thing this pope will do will step down from his role of pope and rather be perceived as a bishop amongst bishops to favor the unification of all Christian churches. It's going to be a war against Trump. wage by the church every day, in which we will hear, of course, from this pope what you might hear from the Democratic Party, which has demonstrated in the last few years to be the political branch of the Vatican Jesuit-led New World Order here in the United States.

1:42:56 So, it's not a good day. Some Americans might perceive it as a good day. For those who were hoping in a traditional Pope, in somebody who will support also a return to the Latin mass, this will be of course a disappointment because this Pope has no intention in going back. but rather in moving forward. He was born in Chicago. He's part of the Augustinians, which is an order which is actually older than the Jesuits. It's been around for a very long time, since the 12th and 13th century, they established themselves. He's been the president, though, of the Pontifical Commission for Latin America. And that's where he worked hand in hand

1:43:43 with the Jesuits in pushing forward more liberation theology, more of a mix of Marxism and Catholicism, which is what the church has been in the hands of Pope Francis. Of course, that follows the dictates of the Second Vatican Council, in which The church was taken over in the first half of the 1960s by Freemasons and Jesuits who had, of course, progressive values. He served as bishop of Siclaio in Peru, which is of course another hellhole, and he did it from 2015 to 2023. He was general.

1:44:23 of the Order of St. Augustine. What does it mean, general? These kinds of orders, just like the Jesuit order, have a general because they are rather military in their nature. Like I stated earlier, it has a lot of links to the Jesuits, especially when it comes down to education. We are seeing the great war that Trump is conducting in favor of a different form of education here in the United States of America, well, you are fighting against, of course, a system which is very much in the image of what the Jesuits want. I mean, Fordham, Georgetown, these are the places that have shaped some of the most influential leaders. When you have

1:45:11 Dr. Fauci doing what he has done is because he's a Jesuit stooge. He doesn't only teach in Georgetown He was also formed and shaped and molded since a very early age by the Jesuit. Well, Hillary Clinton has repeatedly said that she you know, she doesn't follow any ideology but but but a Jew it a coal mind mindset of the Jesuits and if people don't understand. And Gavin Newsom, he has actually said it publicly, he follows the Jesuits. So here we're talking about the worst of the worst of the Democratic Party. And I want to say Trump, Trump,

1:45:48 It's sophisticated in many ways, but obviously he wants to say something nice because he likes Catholics in general. They're big supporters of his, but his statements just came out, Leo. Congratulations to Cardinal Robert Francis Prevost, who was just named Pope. It is such an honor to realize that he is the first American Pope. What excitement and what a great honor for our country. I look forward to meeting. Pablio, it will be a very meaningful moment. But in my first look, that's what I thought. I said, please get Zagami on. Of course, you're an expert on all these guys. He's saddened on it because this guy has chosen my name, first of all. And the last pope who had this name was a conservative who fought Freemasonry, fought the establishment that eventually took over the church. So to actually take on this name for me is already an insult. But in any case, you are right in what you are saying. This is- Well, am I wrong though? I mean, is he Francis Light or is he as bad as Francis? He's worse than Francis.

1:46:46 Because Francis said that the policies of the Vatican II were only implementing by 50% and then his successor will have to implement the next 50%. And so now, explain how this works. As more cardinals die, more cardinals get in to vote for the next pope and policies. I mean, so this looks like the globalist takeover of the Catholic Church is intensifying, getting stronger. First of all, this guy is born in 1955, Alex, so we're going to have to stand with this guy for a very long time. And in this long time, of course, the church will be further destroyed. But at the same time, he will follow up in the Encyclical Fratelli II.

1:47:29 tutti, unifying all the Christian churches, and later on, of course, Muslim, Jews, in this whole Kumbaya situation in which he will step down of his role as Pope will be kind of minimized. He will incentivize the role of Bishop of Rome. He is somebody who, of course, has a lot of preparation for his role. His father was a veteran in the US Navy and he is of French and Italian descent. He has been for a long time working, like I said, especially with South America and we know what is happening. Leo, hold on, we gotta go to break. And I already knew you had your new book out, because I had to be out one day last week. It was a court stuff, but I watched it later, did a great job.

1:48:19 I want to hear about your new book. I want to talk to Catholics in the fourth hour. Could you come on with me in the fourth hour and take calls from Catholics? Sure. I mean, this is not a challenge towards your faith. I mean, your faith is your faith. No, no, I understand that. But I'm just saying, you called Pope Francis years before it happened. So I mean, you're the most accurate. So yeah. I've got to go to break, but could you come on at like 215 central so we can take some calls and and and then and then you could respond to the Catholics because you obviously know like they do a lot more than I do. Absolutely, I mean and like you said my new book also explains why the Luciferian court made up of Illuminati pre-made some think tanks from the build- Hold on, stay there, I gotta go to break. Do five more minutes with us as Steve Kerch is coming on to respond to all this Bill Gates stuff and some new shocking studies confirming the mass death from the shots but stay

1:49:20 But stay right there, we're going to break in a minute. We'll come back to you for five minutes, talk about the book, then we'll have you back on in the fourth hour. And I'm going to go right to your calls. So Zogami is going to be here to respond to you and answer any of your questions. You may disagree with him, may agree, but Zogami knows his stuff. We'll stay there, Leo, we're going to break. Oh, worse than Francis. I'll take his word for it. That is bad. But is it because there's a progression of their takeover or is it because he himself is worse? This is just stunning. And then we're supposed to celebrate just because he's an American. I mean, will he say something about the war on Catholics by the Democrats? Conservative Catholics? We're going to go to break. We'll be right back with Leo Zoghami for five more minutes and then our special guest joining us. Please remember,

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1:54:50 Well, we got a new Pope, American Pope, and Leo Zagami, who has called what's going on in the Vatican for decades, unlike anybody else out there, best selling author, is saying this guy's worse. Tell us some about your book. I want to have you back about that in the future. You'll be on The Fourth Hour taking calls from Catholics, not just in the US, but around the world to get their take and your response, Leo Zagami. But just in a nutshell, why are you saying this guy's worse? Because in the year 2000, when Prevost was the provincial superior in Chicago, he protected a pedophile, Father James Ray, an Augustinian priest. He actually protected him. And this guy had credible accusations from 1991. And although the priory was close to a Catholic elementary school, Prevost did nothing to notify the school administration of the whole thing. This guy is a protector

1:55:46 of pedophiles. He's the worst kind of guy we could elect as Pope. And as I explained in my latest book, the Jesuits and Pope Francis worked for months to prepare this new woke Pope. And in fact, the ring of Pope Francis was actually destroyed, contrary to tradition, not after the death of Pope Francis, but only only two days ago, because they continue to use it as a seal on documents up to two days ago. So God knows what these people have done with documents that will of course surface later on. And this guy who protects the pedophiles.

1:56:28 who is somebody already merged in controversy from a very controversial convent in Chicago, suddenly becomes Pope and of course, very close to Obama, the Democrats, very much opposed to Donald J. Trump. Trump is being diplomatic, of course. This is a head of state, first of all, being elected before being the head of the religion of billions of Catholics. So he has to be diplomatic. But things are going to be very different in a few weeks from now, actually probably starting soon after his first Wednesday speeches when he's going to start talking about immigration and his stand of immigration, which is, of course, a stand of immigration that is completely contrary to what Tom Homan or Trump stands for. So let's see what happens. And in the meantime, of

1:57:23 course, with my new book, Volume 12, which is the last installment of my confessions, because I wanted to bring you right up there where the pyramid culminates and the all-seeing eye, to bring you where the Jesuit general is, where the real power is. Of course, this power is the power that has decided ultimately that they wanted to put an American pope because they want to challenge Trump directly. They could have, of course, chosen African or an Asian pope, which is probably the future of the church. But in this case, the priority for this woke church seems to be fighting Trump and his administration. So Pope Francis, of course, had always very much good things to say about Prevost.

1:58:13 Putin as a titular bishop of Suphar. He received his episcopal consecration during the time Pope Francis was a pope. And on July 13, 2019, the provost was also appointed a member of the Congregation for the Clergy in Rome. So in a way, preparing him also for his role. We're gonna talk to you in an hour, we're gonna take calls from Catholics then. But the big issue here is the leadership of Catholic Church directing Democratic Party to target traditional Catholics and conservatives in America. That tells you everything you have to know. The good news is this is, isn't this just waking up Catholics more than ever?

1:58:55 Well, it's going to wake up those people who still have the illusion that we could go back to a conservative Pope, to somebody like J.D. Vance wanted, or those who love the traditional Latin mass. It's never going to happen. Unfortunately, we are going further into wokeness with this new Pope. It's amazing. Wow. Leo Zagami, we'll talk to you coming up in an hour. Thank you. Thank you. All right, Steve Kirsch has some of the biggest COVID tyranny news ever and it dovetails with Bill Gates trying to rewrite history right now and say he's not the depopulationist. No, it's Elon Musk and Trump. We'll be back in 60 seconds. Stay with us. Well, we have a special guest with us this hour with some really grave news. Steve Kirsch, since day one, has been exposing how dangerous and evil these so-called vaccines have been, the mRNA, all of it.

1:59:49 Steve Karsh is a philanthropist and executive director of the COVID-19 Early Treatment Fund, and also the Vaccine Safety Research Foundation. He is the inventor of the optical mouse, and one of the first internet search engines, InfoSeek. He has founded seven high-tech companies with billions and billions in dollar market caps. Steve is currently focused on safe and effective ways to deal with our problems without all these poisons. He received a BS, MS in electrical engineering and computer science from MIT in 1980. He's also been featured 60 minutes and everything else you can imagine testified for Congress, you name it. Steve Kirsch dot substack dot com, Twitter, ST Kirsch, K-I-R-S-C-H and

2:00:33 It's just incredible, not just the insurance actuaries have been out for years and all the other numbers and global life expectancy dropping, particularly where the shots are rolled out or the government databases that have come out proving all of it from New Zealand to the United States. And then now all the big developments with RFK Jr. overall doing a lot of really good things, but also big pushes to roll out more COVID shots that now he's trying to block by making him actually study it. But this new study by a very respected MIT scientist is out. Pfizer recipients face 37 percent higher risk of death than Moderna recipients. Well we'd always heard that Moderna was stronger in the same thing as the Pfizer. Very interesting study of 1.47 million Florida adults by MIT scientists and Surgeon General finds significantly higher all-cause cardiovascular and COVID-19

2:01:28 mortality after Pfizer vaccinations. So this is the Surgeon General of Florida with all the government resources coming out with this. The study titled 12-month all-cause mortality after initial COVID-19 vaccination with Pfizer BioNTech and mRNA-1273 among adults living in Florida was just uploaded to MedRivx. pre-print server. The study was headed by MIT professor and Florida Surgeon General and it goes on from there. So we've got a lot of documents, a lot of information, a lot of developments here with Steve Hirsch but wow and then I want to budget some time in that we have left here with him and we need to get him back again soon for longer

2:02:16 on Bill Gates and this attempt at a facelift, this relaunch, the lies that he's a philanthropist, blaming Trump and Doge and saying they're gonna get us all killed with new viruses, not at a labs that he's helping create, but magically from the global warming, and saying that Elon Musk is a billionaire murdering poor people when it's Bill Gates that's most famous for that. This is an attempt to in the minds of people do a Jedi mind trick or gaslight and turn Elon into who what he is and then the constant threat not just by him but other spokespersons of the mad scientist death cult like Tedros the WHO, Hotez, Fauci that if you cut the funding why

2:03:02 oh, the new virus is gonna come get you. So clearly a big threat as well and branding the new virus, we know they've got on the shelves to pick from, to be the fault of Trump and Musk. So big moves by some of the most hated and reviled people on earth. Bill Gates to confuse people. I don't see it working, but it all ties together. So Steve Kirsch, thank you so much. Let's get right into this new study. Sure. So this was a study actually that I instigated, so it's kind of my fault that this study happened. I found a very troubling differential mortality signal by looking at the Czech Republic data, which anybody can download that data. It's publicly available. It's record-level data.

2:03:44 And it's the first time that any country has ever exposed the record level data. And what that data showed was a differential mortality, a differential one year mortality, and actually extends out more than a year. But I saw a differential mortality between the Pfizer shot and the Moderna shot. I let Joe Latipo know that there's this differential mortality, and I suggested to him that he might want to look at the Florida data. And the reason that I chose Joe is because he's the only honest health care authority

2:04:22 in the entire world. So if anyone was going to act on this, it was Joe. And I remember you when this came out, what was it a year ago, two years ago, you said this is the best data out of the Czech Republic. And I remember you making a big deal about this saying you're reaching out to the Surgeon General of Florida and now the, I mean, this is huge. So thank God for the work you did on that. Yeah. And thank God that Joe actually took me up on the offer and he looked at his data And he had he employed a Retzif Levy professor, MIT professor, who did an absolutely spectacular job of analyzing the data. You know, they looked at seven different parameters to match the groups. And so what they what they did is they said, you know, the people in Florida, there are there are a bunch of people in Florida got the shots. Let's take

2:05:14 one and a half million of those people and try to match them together. Let's match 750,000 with 750,000 who took Pfizer 750,000 versus Moderna 750,000. And let's try to match them down to ideally they live on the same block that they got Pfizer or Moderna in the same week at the same vaccination center. Basically, they tried to make everything look the same in terms of matching these cohorts. And to some extent, these cohorts are matched better

2:05:52 than what you would get in a randomized trial. So this is as good as it gets for an observational study. And there isn't an observational study in the history of epidemiology that matches on more parameters than what they matched on or that has more perfect matching. So you're saying this is a gold standard or platinum standard study and of course they rigged the other studies and tests and you know. Absolutely. And so you were always looking to get a database to then put it together and then because they really did just test this on the general public now you found a state with a person of integrity so you can go into the numbers with actually the mass trial they did on us as guinea pigs. We have the FDA board remember saying oh we don't know what this would do so we just got to give it to kids to see what it does. So that of course just shows the lie that quote they tested all this no they tested it

2:06:49 on the people in live time and now with this study that you instigated and initiated we actually have the smoking gun. We do because it showed that there was a 36% differential mortality between people who got the Pfizer shot versus people who got the Moderna shot. So if you got the Pfizer shot, you were 36% more likely to die from non-COVID reasons. Now, let me unpack that for a second because there are a bunch of things I'm talking about non-COVID all-cause mortality, And we're talking about differential mortality. And so most people, that is going to go like over their heads and like, what are you talking about? What does this mean? And so let me break it down for you. So the differential mortality means that

2:07:39 compared to the non-COVID all-cause mortality of Moderna, that Pfizer was 36% higher than that in a year. And there shouldn't have been, those lines that you're showing on the screen, those lines should have been identical because the groups themselves were identical. And as you can see from the graphs, they started out identically And then they diverged, the Pfizer vaccine diverged, showing that the groups in fact were matched, but that the Pfizer group then somehow had higher mortality over time and resulting in a 36% differential between the groups. Now what's important to realize, and it's not brought out in the paper, is that vaccines

2:08:27 In general, there has not been a vaccine that has ever reduced your non-disease all-cause mortality. In other words, vaccines aren't designed to make you live longer. The vaccines are only designed to take whatever risk you have from a particular disease and bring it down to ideally zero for that disease. It's not designed to increase your lifespan. So that means that Moderna, which had a, we can assume that Moderna isn't increasing your lifespan. I don't know anybody who takes Moderna and is living longer. So let's give Moderna the benefit of the doubt. And let's say that Moderna doesn't increase your all-cause mortality at all. In other words, Moderna's perfectly safe. Well, let me make this point. You're the scientist, but I'm a layperson.

2:09:19 The reason Kennedy wants to bring placebo back that they've gotten rid of overall is because if they did this rollout and then had actually given say a third of the people a placebo, we would have the real floor. But now we don't know with the Moderna under the Pfizer because there's nothing to gauge it by with a placebo. That is exactly right. I'm going to give you an honorary degree to be a scientist from that. That is exactly right. We do not have a placebo-controlled baseline because when people volunteer for these vaccination studies, they are fundamentally different from people who do not want to be vaccinated. And it turns out that people who are unvaccinated

2:10:07 tend to have higher mortality. And that's not because they avoided the vaccine. It's just because in general people who don't get vaccinated just don't have as much access to health care. They may be in a lower socioeconomic status and so forth. But the statistics show that the unvaccinated are vastly different, even for the same age, than the the vaccinated versus the unvaccinated are completely different. But then we have the Amish that aren't vaccinated living longer than anybody on average. Yeah, and you know that's a good- So they form a baseline just in general, even though we don't have one, because they don't do placebo. They do, but without this placebo-controlled trial, you don't have a baseline. So our best thing is just to, let's just assume for a moment that Moderna is perfectly safe. That's the best case.

2:11:03 And what that means is that when you have a 36% differential between the two vaccines, it means that Pfizer increased your baseline all-cause mortality by at least 36%. Now that is a disaster. No vaccine is supposed to increase your non-disease all-cause mortality. It's always supposed to decrease your your disease mortality, but it's never supposed to increase your non-disease all-cause mortality. So this is a signal, I mean this is a gigantic red alert, thousand alarm fire signal. Correct, absolutely. No question about it. There should not be a difference at all between these cohorts in terms of the non-COVID all-cause mortality. So let me ask you this, I always heard, I know they did different base ingredients, but

2:11:58 That Moderna and Pfizer were basically the same formula and the Moderna had originally done it and Pfizer got a deal to do it and then they just weren't as strong. It was a couple of three plus shots for Moderna versus Pfizer. But do we have any idea why, at least what was given in Florida, is so much worse than the Pfizer, I mean than the Moderna? Yeah, so you're correct in that Moderna had, when it was rolled out, they had over three times the dose of essentially these genetic material, the mRNA, if it was three times higher, a little bit more than three times higher for Moderna. And so you would think that if Moderna worked, then it would provide better protection

2:12:45 But it should also provide more death because it's got a higher dose. And it's the more poison you give someone, the more death you're going to get. So this was a little bit surprising that we did see in terms of a A cold mortality we saw that that madonna was superior in other words madonna superior on the cold mortality and it's also superior on the non cold mortality so if you're walking into a vaccination center and you're given the choice between Pfizer and madonna you'd be foolish.

2:13:23 There's no data supporting your choice of Pfizer. Any intelligent consumer would say if- But they also admit, they also admit, and again I'm just going from memory here, you're the expert, that they were, particularly Pfizer, was changing the base ingredients and for a long time we didn't even know what was in it. So do we have any idea? Obviously if it's got the same mRNA, just more of it in the Moderna, then that points towards, and I'm just, you know, deduction here that it was one of the other ingredients in Pfizer. It could be, we don't know. It could be the SV40 promoter which is only found in the Pfizer vaccine. Probably not because when you look at the autopsy reports on people who got Pfizer versus people who got Moderna, you see the same sorts of effects happening in the

2:14:21 in the histopathology slides, you can see this degradation of organs, of blood vessels and so forth that are attacked by these so-called vaccines. And you can see the same sort of pattern whether you got the Moderna vaccine or the Pfizer vaccine. And I know you don't like to speculate, but I mean, This is wild and obviously there needs to be further investigations. What should that be? And then, I mean, how do they even try to roll out new COVID shots with this information, period?

2:15:00 Well, you know, they shouldn't until they get to the bottom of this. Now, it could very well be that Moderna was having manufacturing problems and the mRNA in the vials wasn't fully intact. And so mRNA could be shooting duds, but that's probably not true because when you look at the efficacy against COVID-19, Moderna had lower Well, so I probably shouldn't say that. Moderna had fewer deaths of COVID-19, but we don't know in fact that the vaccines were protective against COVID-19. So in fact, Moderna could be shooting duds and is effectively a placebo because the mRNA was fragmented and was not protecting against COVID and of course was then

2:15:47 also not creating the antigen all over your body that Pfizer was. So it could very well be that Moderna was essentially shooting blanks. And would that be because I remember Moderna was more of a startup. And so that's I mean, I've seen. Yeah, there's no quality control in these shots. You don't know what you're getting. This is why they have these hot lots for these batches. I mean, that should never happen. So the quality control is lacking. And in fact, the EMA, when they looked at these vaccines, they said, well, we looked at these

2:16:27 mRNA fragments and we found that they're broken 50% of the time and this is when they were applying for approval. They may have fixed the manufacturing process since then but things can happen in terms of the storage requirements of the particular vaccine, the particular formulations. It's unknown as to why. Sure, doesn't it degradate above 87 degrees? Oh sure, I mean, initially when they came out they said, oh it has to be kept at extremely low temperature because mRNA is extremely fragile. Bottom line, it was a giant mass experiment.

2:17:08 It was and it's still an ongoing mass experiment. And apparently, President Trump doesn't want to stop it because he feels very proud that he was responsible for Operation Warp Speed. And so he does not want these vaccines to be taken off the market because that would be a blemish on his accomplishment and that is tragic because we are giving these vaccines to kids and that is unfathomable. That's right, this is a big thing Trump does that is the big problem with him and I've seen and I've talked to people behind the scenes in the year of course you have more contacts than I do a lot of internal fighting almost schizophrenic

2:17:52 or paradoxical where Kennedy's trying to block this, get placebos, trying to block the rollouts. Just a few months ago, they were trying to bring out a new one and he said no, but now they say they are. What's the latest on that? Man, you know, it's like watching a ping pong match because they're looking at, oh, well, what variants should we target in the latest mRNA vaccines? And while at the same time you're talking about stopping it, well, if you're stopping it in kids, why aren't you stopping it in adults? the harms in the autopsy. They're clearly killing people. Vaccines should never kill people. That's the thing. And we have the autopsy evidence. We have the histopathology. You've laid out all the papers and all the documents has all been confirmed accurate.

2:18:39 Because you're a statistician really, and one of the best in my view watching your work, that we've never seen a signal anywhere near this of hurting people. And we have the famous video that leaked of Kennedy talking to Trump a year ago. Trump's like, yeah, they're giving too much to kids, maybe not the kids. So we see in Trump's action, okay, don't give it to kids, but it helps old people. He's still been convinced of this crap. No, you cannot give old people a vaccine which kills them. Okay, and this is what's happening. You can see it in the autopsies. And also the BMJ published a report. It was done by the Norwegian Health Authority. Norwegian Health Authority basically investigated 100 deaths after vaccination.

2:19:20 And they discovered that at least 10% were likely caused by the vaccine and up to 36% of the deaths could have been caused by the vaccine. So we knew very early, it was published in the BMG by this independent investigation. And ever since then, there has never been any country that has looked at these people who die after getting the vaccine to understand what they died from. Now, the CDC claims that they have all these thousands of cases, but they had the CDC basically says that there have been zero deaths from the mRNA vaccines. The only deaths are 10 deaths from non mRNA vaccines and we stopped those. The CDC has seen no deaths. Look,

2:20:09 It is very obvious. I mean, you don't have to be an expert pathologist to look at these histopathology slides and see there's something very, very wrong here. Well, I've seen a number of 400,000 deaths caused by the shots in the US alone. The estimate based on a number of factors, I mean, there was a great study done by Andre Redder. He looked at 30 European countries, over 500 million in population, and he discovered what's called a vaccine dose fatality rate that at a minimum is 0.5

2:20:49 Which means that basically we killed one out of a thousand people who got the shots or what you know one of a thousand shots led to death so if you shoot six hundred and sixty million doses. of the shots, you're going to kill 660,000 Americans from these shots. So that's what his research shows. Now, it turns out that if you impute a vaccine dose fatality rate based on the numbers in the Latipo study, you get the same number. You get the 0.15%. So you take

2:21:29 And people don't know in big giants totally separate studies and when you start getting the exact same finding, you know, you've hit the facts. Steve Kersh, incredible. Stay there. I want to come back and talk about what do we do? I mean, why don't why does it Trump draft the Surgeon General of Florida up there instead of this woman he tried to put forward that got shot down yesterday? Let's talk about that when we come back. You took methylene blue about 30 minutes ago. Are you feeling it? I think I am. You told me during the break something. Repeat what you said is happening. I feel like that stuff in my fingers. I feel tingling fingers. You're feeling the Palpatine love? I think I feel the Palpatine love, yeah. Well go ahead and there's the camera. Blast him with full power right there. Oh! Yeah! Powered by methylene blue. Ultra methylene blue. At the Alex Show Store dot com.

2:22:25 Seriously though, during the break I said, are you feeling it? She said, I feel the tingle. I do. What are you feeling now? Well, it's kind of going up my arms. I feel it in my head and neck too. Like when I'm talking, it seems like it's not really me talking. I can hear my talking and going, wow, you. I agree. It's almost like an out-of-body experience for some people. Like, well, that's how it is. Like, I didn't tell you that. It's like you're behind yourself. That is what it feels like. But my brain's going really fast. You know, because my brain, sometimes it goes so fast that I can't get it out on paper. All it does is increase electrochemical activity in the mitochondria, but that's a big deal. No, I really like it. I'm going to have to get on this stuff. Here, show her Kennedy taking it. Kennedy literally gobbles it. Unlimited power! Oh! Power! Unlimited power!

2:23:15 UNLIMITED POWER! Am I gonna be like that? Well, I'm like that normally, so... Yeah, you are like that normally. UNLIMITED POWER! UNLIMITED VOLUNTEER POWER! Well, the Surgeon General of Florida is a hero.

2:23:53 And, you know, Santos hadn't been perfect, but on that front he hit a home run. And you contrast this to the lady who's a big Pharma deep stater that Trump put forward as a Surgeon General. He got exposed by RFK Jr.'s experts, Nicole Shanahan and others, and Laura Loomer exposed it and Trump withdrew her. But it's a real ping pong match, a real tug of war going on. And when Trump is presented with the facts enough, he does the right thing most of the time. But this has got a real blind spot when it comes to mRNA. And we see Larry Ellison there the first week Trump's back in office going, oh, we'll cure cancer in 48 hours. I mean, mRNA, it's wonderful. And we've just seen this unmitigated disaster.

2:24:46 We've got Bill Gates trying to reconstitute like Sauron trying to find the ring, blaming Elon Musk saying Elon Musk is the murderer of the third world by cutting off Bill Gates's Franken science, guinea pigging operations, cutting the money off. It's just wild. So Steve Kirsch, you being the initiator of this, and God bless you for that, what needs to be done now in your view? And what other big stories are you out there like Merlin, but you know behind the scenes getting launched. Well, I think what needs to be done at a minimum, at a minimum, the FDA should be asking Pfizer to respond to the Latipo study. New York Times ought to be asking Pfizer, hey, you know, this looks pretty bad for you. What's going on here? How do you respond to this?

2:25:42 And I know of one semi-mainstream journalist that has reached out to Pfizer for comment on the Latipo study. And the comment came back as nothing. They basically are ignoring it. They don't want to talk about it. And that alone should tell you something. So, you know, the most conservative thing is to say, is to simply go to Pfizer and say, hey, Well, you know, you think there's something wrong with this study that we should know about because this looks pretty incriminating. This is like, you know, you got your your, you know, your finger on the on the trigger here and you're causing 36 percent higher deaths.

2:26:25 what's going on. It should be allowed to give an opportunity to explain that like you know explain it like you have a have a week to explain it to us otherwise we're going to take you off the market. But if it were me I would take I would take it off the market in the meantime. Or take it off the market immediately. Now you said that years ago with the studies and research. It might be a good time to recap. There's so many. Oh yeah. I mean there's so many other smoking gun studies and databases that, and as you said, that keeps confirming these numbers. Oh yeah, you know, we knew immediately after the shots rolled out, the VAERS system, which is the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, this is the system that tracks these, that the CDC says if something bad happens to you, you should report it to VAERS.

2:27:16 And so that system was lining up like a Christmas tree. You know, theirs went from basically a flat line of nothing happening and then all of a sudden this huge blip in terms of never seen anything like this before in history in terms of people reporting deaths. The medical community says, oh, well, that's because it's an EUA vaccine and they're required to report deaths happening after the vaccine is given. But no, they're required to report deaths.

2:27:53 even before that requirement for any vaccine. So this is just unprecedented, the numbers. And they have this thing called proportional reporting ratios, PRR. And that's their way of assessing safety signals. And it compares the a single vaccine against the rates reported for that particular condition versus other vaccines. You know, percentage of deaths. How is the percentage of deaths in these reports compared to other vaccines? And they had 770 different safety signals that triggered, in other words, 770 different adverse events

2:28:36 triggering safety signals. That has never happened before in the history of the CDC. So they knew there was a fire drill. And so what the CDC did is they basically covered it up and they said nothing to the public. They talked about myocarditis as saying, well, you know, it's rare and don't worry. But they never talked about the other 769 safety signals. And the only way we even found out about that is because somebody sent a Freedom of Information Act request. to the CDC and they complied with it and they showed us the reports and they showed that 770 safety signals have been triggered and yet the CDC said didn't say a word to the American public. Now I have never heard so many stories of vaccine deaths I have never seen just like you rolled the B roll ahead of this with all of these athletes dying, with people dying, with people at podiums

2:29:35 speaking and then so you know they're speaking like this and suddenly they just cave over. We have never seen anything like that. And then we had the FDA in October of 2020 predicting publicly what would happen. Why do you think they did that? Well, I think that that was a I think you're talking about a slide presentation. Yes, it's on screen. Yeah, that slide presentation and they quickly went through that slide presentation. But what was on that slide presentation is basically causes of death from other vaccines. And so that's that's possible adverse events because you've seen those adverse events from

2:30:17 other vaccines in the past. It's not necessarily saying that you're going to see these here, but in fact we saw everything that's on this list. And a higher statistic we've never seen before. Yeah, yeah. So it's like people are just turning a blind eye to all this stuff. And the thing that's really, really troubling, Alex, is the lack of autopsies. Like, where, where, like, and especially where was the autopsies in the clinical trials themselves? So people died, more people died. I mean, the all cause mortality was higher in the people who got the vaccine than the people who got the placebo. So why didn't they investigate with a full autopsies on the people who died after vaccination? There were no autopsies for anyone who died after vaccination in the trials. So the investigators said, well, we don't think it was caused

2:31:13 by the shots and the FDA just like eats it up, doesn't require any validation, doesn't require autopsies. And they go all over the news and say safe and effective if you have the shot you can't get sick, you can't spread it and then we have when they approved it for kids saying we don't know what it'll do, we just got to put them in them to see what happens. And then meanwhile they're still out there saying oh no we tested it all, it's all been tested and then when we they do test it by giving it to people they try to suppress and cover it up. That's right. You know, it's very, very troubling, all of this stuff. There is no investigations, nobody's calling for autopsies. It is just horrible what is happening here. Well, Steve, you sent me a few other things and I just want to hit them briefly here. Vaccinations or verifications of mRNA vaccine, DNA contamination in the world

2:32:09 and you were raising alarm early on, now there's all these studies confirming that these things are doing that. For people that don't know, you mix in DNA with these shots and then it does all sorts of weird stuff when they're having autoimmune responses and stuff in the body and then all this SV40 contamination and cancer virus and they say it isn't, but it is. What's going on here? Well, clearly the shots have DNA contamination and clearly the DNA contamination is above the levels that the regulators set for being safe. And we can play games with the definition, but the point is that there is a lot of extra junk in these vials that are being injected into people's bodies that we have no clue as to what the repercussions are in the short term or the long term. And we have Bill Gates, when this was all rolling out, saying, we have no idea with this mRNA. We just shoot it right in the kids' veins.

2:33:09 And then we've got the FDA meeting where they approve it going, we have no idea. And then you and I are the conspiracy theorists for pointing this out. Yes, it's kind of an upside down world here where we're the conspiracy theorists. We're pointing out all of the safety issues with these vaccines. And gosh, you know, you don't have to be a critical thinker to realize that, wow, there have been no autopsies and there's no histopathology on any of these. And when they do the autopsies,

2:33:45 which were done, there were about 80 or 85 autopsies done in Germany for people who got the shots. And those autopsies showed very clearly that the vaccines were responsible for people's deaths. And the organ damage and the vascular damage was horrendous. in these people who died. Those things just don't happen spontaneously. I mean, these are like very rare events. If you saw one autopsy, you'd say, wow, this is very rare. But when you then look at five autopsies in a row, you say, whoa, we're seeing the same very rare thing in all of these autopsies. And yet, the CDC is completely blind to all this. They're not doing any autopsies. It's just a huge red flag. Well, we're gonna have to see what Kennedy does about this, but this is really pissing people off.

2:34:39 Finally, today the FDA announced that May 22nd, the FDA's Vaccine and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee will meet to publicly discuss and make recommendations on the selection of the 2025-2026 formula for COVID-19 vaccines, which it's not. So they're trying to barrel ahead of this, and I see Kennedy trying to shoot it down. This is crazy. It is. It's insane. This is like rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. That's essentially what they're doing. They're saying, hey, what's the best deck chair arrangement for us while this ship is sinking? People are dying from these shots. There is no doubt about it.

2:35:24 I've never seen anything like this in my lifetime, and I think neither of you. It's just so, so troubling. And it's only happening to the vaccinated. I have a friend who had about a 15 people who died unexpectedly that he knows. And before the shots rolled out, he'd like know one person in his life that died unexpectedly. after the vaccines rolled out, he had 17 of his friends die unexpectedly and all of them were from the vaccine and four of them died on the same day that they got the shots and three of the four were under 30. This is statistically impossible if the shots are helping people. And in nursing homes like Apple Valley Village Nursing Home, I got a report from someone who worked there saying that, hey, when they,

2:36:22 before they rolled out the shots, they had no COVID deaths in their nursing home at all. They had 27 COVID cases, no COVID deaths. After they rolled out the shots, they had 90 COVID cases. Then this is where three weeks after the shot, they had 90 COVID cases and 30 deaths. So the death rate went up from zero out of 27, and it went up to 30 out of 90 COVID cases. Total insanity, absolutely. That stuff just doesn't happen. Abs, you don't need to be a weatherman to know which way the wind's blowing and you can see this is massive. Dr. Kirk, Steve Kirk, thank you so much for being with us. Please keep giving us updates and God bless you. Thank you. The Surgeon General doctor there in Florida is a hero and these scientists doing the research are. This is so dangerous folks and big pharma when you expose this comes after you but there's too many of us for them to get us all.

2:37:14 Since we mentioned it, here's a clip of Bill Gates saying, we have no idea what it is. We just shoot it right in the kid's vein. And then here's the FDA board right before they voted to make it recommended for kids saying, we have no idea what it does. We gotta give people to find out. While they tell you it's safe and effective and tested, here it is. Is there something to worry about with medicines? That is, might some of them have side effects? Do we need safety testing? I mean, and we're taking things that are, you know, genetically modified organisms and we're injecting them in little kids arms. We just shoot them right into the vein. And I think what sways me here is that it's a very sort of personal choice. If I had a child who had, who was a transplant recipient, I would really want to be able to use a vaccine like this. And there are certainly kids who probably should be vaccinated.

2:38:04 The question of how broadly we use it, though, I think is a substantial one. And I know it's not our question, and I know we're kind of pumping that to ACIP. But I do think that it's a relatively close call, and as Dr. Levy just said, as Dr. Gamm said, it really is going to be a question of what the prevailing conditions are. But we're never going to learn about how safe the vaccine is unless we start giving it. That's just the way it goes. That's how we found out about rare complications of other vaccines like the rotavirus vaccine. And I do think that we are going to, I do think we should vote to approve it. Which they did. So we're going to find out if it hurts you by giving it to you. And wow, it really hurts you. The worst ever.

2:41:09 Become a VIP at thealexandstore.com funding the second American revolution worldwide. We got a lot to cover in a short time. I appreciate Dr. Elliott on short notice coming on. I wanted to get him on yesterday, but we couldn't on this first big question. Then I want to get into all these countries lining up, capitulating to the US. It's really working. But first, China with its trillions of US dollars holdings, it is in free fall. We'll get into all of that. Riots all over it, total collapse. I mean, this is huge, but they're threatening to dump all their US Treasuries. Can they do that? What would happen if they did that? Can you address that first, economist Dr. Kirk Elliott? They could do that, Alex, and they are. So they have, I think about 800 billion, almost a trillion dollars of US Treasuries left. And if you look at a chart of the US dollar, it's in free fall.

2:42:07 Right, so why is it in free fall? Because you've got some big player that's not just investors like you and me that are dumping it like yesterday's trash. So who is this big player? It looks like it's China, right? So why are they doing it? Because like you and I would do, let's just say, We had a financial pickle and we sit down at the table with our spouse and say, well, we don't, we have way too many bills and we don't have enough money coming in. So let's go find another job and let's slash our expenses, right? And if those two things don't work, we go to plan B and we have a garage sale, right? And we sell everything that we have that's of value. And this is basically what China is doing.

2:42:52 Right there, they're dumping their US treasuries because they have them. What are they getting in return? They're getting cash. When they sell the US treasuries, they're getting cash in return. And what are they doing with that cash? They've been buying gold, right, by the mountains of gold, right? So this is why gold's been going up. And you look at what the tariff impacts are having with China. It's extreme, Alex. And this is where Trump is winning so big. Absolutely, massively big because Xi Jinping is surrounded, he's cornered, he has no way out and he's forced now to sell US treasuries to make ends meet. I mean just the news from yesterday.

2:43:34 is six of the largest banks in China, they're all state-owned banks, lost a billion dollars in revenues the very first quarter of this year, a billion. And I would also add that there's just too much to cover. We have at least 40 Chinese banks going belly up in the last three days. Yeah, in the last three days, let alone the six biggest ones losing a billion dollars. So what do you think is going to happen to these big banks and these 40 banks that are going under when tariffs actually try to even have more of an impact? Because you realize the first ship, cargo ship, just came into Long Beach Port two days ago.

2:44:16 post Trump tariffs. So Bloomberg did this article about it and they're saying, this is terrible. There's $530 million or something of products on this ship and over $400 million was tariffs. So you've got 530 plus 400 and something and Bloomberg is saying this is gonna be devastating for Americans. Everything just doubled in price. It's like, no, not everything. This stuff from China absolutely did, which Alex, this is Trump's point and this is why he's winning this war. There was other stuff on that ship from other countries. And as you just said, other countries, 75 of them have capitulated after Liberation Day called Trump and said, hey, Trump, we wanna be able to sell to US consumers. Let's negotiate on this tariff stuff, right? So they did.

2:45:06 The other countries whose products were on that ship only had $7 million worth of tariffs. That's like nothing. That's like absolutely nothing. It's a drop in the bucket. So what Trump is saying to the world, it's like, you don't want to feed the beast? You're complaining about stuff from China being so expensive? Well then don't buy Chinese things. There's plenty of other countries. I mean, I agree, but I mean right now we're winning royal flush. My issue is China could completely collapse. They may invade Taiwan as a political cover or the military may remove Xi Jinping. But we talked about this six months ago before Trump even got in. This would weaken the dollar. At first push it down really far.

2:45:48 the world While we go through this, we're going to win. And so far, the UK, India, all of them are starting with Vietnam. As you said, it's almost 80 countries have now signed on and are not screwing us anymore. We're winning the global realignment. But I'm just concerned because I was reading there's trillions total in Asian countries, and it looks like a bunch of them are dumping U.S. dollars. I don't know.

2:46:26 And as you said, China's having to do it just to get money. But I'm just concerned about how bad this could get and how far it could go down. Well, I think it could go down a lot. I'm not going to lie, right? So as much as it's come down, it's a free fall. It hit this critical support level the US dollar did the end of last week. And if it went below that, it could go down a lot farther. And we talked about this, right? We talked about this last time we did a show, how we were at that. And look at this chart. There's a line on the bottom of there, that's the critical support level, and it tanked even farther, just like we said that it would. Now, this is because other countries are really trying to stick it to America. They don't like what Trump is doing. However, you know what does like what Trump is doing?

2:51:09 The auction store comm and I thank you for keeping us in the fight because we're fighting for you. I'm fighting for myself We're in in this fight together. We can't do it without you. So thank you so much for your past support All right, dr. Elliott very exciting times I want to be a hundred percent clear with listeners I don't get up here and cheerlead economic news so that We get the outcome we want. I try to be completely honest and you've been coming on for almost two years. You predicted all this. You laid it out exactly where goal would be today. Basically, a little bit higher than what you said.

2:51:51 But I look at all this as Trump said and Lutnik said, we have all the cards. Still the world reserve currency, biggest best military, biggest market. Now all these countries are coming to us other than Russia and China and North Korea and Iran. Trump's winning. It's a political realignment, everything except the world reserve currency. Could they drive it down so much? It panics people to leave it, but China's already being defeated and destroyed by this. And then we win, but it's a Pyrrhic victory. I don't see that happening. I see the dollar going back up pretty quickly in the scheme of things. And of course, some lowering, as you predicted, would be good. But I'm just wondering what the ramifications could be if China and others completely dump the dollar, which they're doing. Well, the ramifications in the short term, and we're talking short, short term, I think could be pretty extreme.

2:52:45 Right, because it's gonna impact the bond market. You've already got Trump and Powell just going at it. I mean, Trump had the quote of the day yesterday. He really did when he said Powell was a fool. Right, for not lowering interest rates and stimulating the economy. But he still likes them. That was a great quote, right? But why is he a fool? Because Trump knows that the rest of the world is against us. They are dumping US treasuries. And the rest of the world is lowering their, the EU, China are lowering interest rates.

2:53:21 Yeah, and we're the only one that's not. So the fact that the dollar is coming down is not all Trump's fault. See, this is case in point that the Fed is becoming more and more irrelevant, that it's not a political- Well, I mean, it's actually publicly siding against America. Yeah, absolutely. And so when they say that they're independent and they're apolitical, that's not true. They did almost everything Biden wanted them to do, Powell did. And now he's opposing almost everything that Trump wants to do. And all that Trump is saying, Alex, is lower interest rates, it'll stimulate the economy. Yes, that'll bring more inflation, but when you stimulate the economy, there's gonna be more jobs, more people are working, wages will keep up with the inflation. Trump's plan is way better than Powell's, which appears to be a

2:54:08 a shot in the gut of the US economy. Do you want inflation with jobs and rising wages or do you want stagflation, which is what Powell's offering? That's what he's offering. It's not what he's offering. It's what he's bringing, right? And so- And then they want to blame if it collapses on Trump. It's terrorism. It's economic terrorism. Yeah, it is. I think that it is. And so Trump is going to win this thing, but the ramifications Right now, I think the dollar is going to collapse. This is going to impact the stock market. It'll impact the bond market. It's going to impact people. Media is going to be all over Trump on this one, blaming him, but it's not his fault. It's Biden's fault. It's former president's fault who have exported so many jobs overseas and it's painful to go through the process. And what is it going to do to gold with all the economic factors, gold and silver?

2:55:07 Well, gold and silver go up during times of turbulence and chaos and turmoil. I mean a lot, especially during times of inflation. And if the dollar is worth less, that means, translated, it'll take more of them to buy gold. Correct. So gold and silver are not just an inflationary hedge, you know an insurance policy against a collapsing currency, which is what we have it's outpacing the collapse of the currency because it's like this flight for quality when people don't know what else to do because the Foundations around us are rotting. They're going into gold and silver. This is why we've been shouting it from the rooftops for a long time, right? Stay there. I want to come back in 60 seconds. This is so important.

2:55:45 He just predicted the collapse of the dollar, but not forever. All right, when you watch pop economic shows, it's just pump and dump scams and feeding on the consumer. predatorily. Then you get the more elite financial publications. They'll cover it one or two dimensionally. You get some good information just from the statistics and numbers, but you have to make the decision yourself with economists and experts that have the best track records of accuracy. And we've been listening to Dr. Elliott for almost two years here on the show. He's basically called everything exactly right, including when they would pause rates, when they would increase rates, just dead on. And he kept explaining, we have all the cards but they could crash the dollar and they could use that to panic people but in the end with the market fundamentals it'll just come back to us. But he said his guarantee is going to go down some. Well it's gone down more than that. And if you just joined us Dr. Elliott just said I think we're going to see a crash of the dollar. What does that mean?

2:56:40 I guess we've got ahead of this for people and then how long till it goes back up. And again, we still have the biggest military, we're the biggest market. China is admittedly just reeling. Any pain we felt is nothing compared to this. The American people don't need to be a panic and as Trump said, because again, all that I mean everybody, India, UK, they are all joining us because they can look at the statistics, but some of the bigger globalists and operatives in groups, they're trying to kill the dollar, they're trying to blame Trump. The private federal reserve won't lower interest rates for us, but China just did it, EU just did it, in their war with us. But there's the private federal reserve that needs to be repealed, needs to be abolished when you go back to...

2:57:26 You know, Congress controlling the monetary system and the people. But man, this is economic warfare, economic terrorism, Dr. Elliott. So just to recap, as you got caught up on the break, specifically, you say a dollar collapse. What does that mean? What number do you think it'll go to? What's the time frame? I mean, I think that it could come down another 15 to 20% in pretty short order. And what's gonna cause it to go up? What will cause the dollar to go back up is when the rest of the world realizes it is a better option than the other currencies out there. And so what you have to do to do that is have a propensity for us to be able to pay off our debt, which is what's happening. For example, the ship that came in to Long Beach Harbor, $413 million worth of tariffs on it. And Bloomberg blames Trump that Americans are gonna be hurt. If I were Trump, I would say thank you, Xi Jinping, for the $413 million of tariff money that we're gonna be used to pay down our debt.

2:58:29 Right, so because he won't capitulate. So as the rest of the world now starts to see that Trump's policies are working, we're getting out of debt, our balance of trade is getting better, we're becoming a stronger nation economically and financially, then the dollar will increase. Now this could happen by the end of this year, maybe the fourth quarter of next. But I think we could be in for a little stretch. Now, realize this has nothing to do with Trump. This has everything to do with prior presidential administrations being detrimental to America, putting together bilateral and multilateral trade agreements that were awful for us like NAFTA and other things, exporting our jobs. The pain of actually getting back to normalcy is what we're going to-. And let me add this point, and I can elaborate on it.

2:59:19 They admittedly had us with Moody's and the rating agencies about to collapse us. They were going to bring Kamala in, blame her, then put Neocons in after as the savior and bring in the global reset and we're no longer the superpower and we'd been sold out. And so then we would have no real industry, huge energy prices. The whole cloud and pivot thing by design, social engineering, wokeism goes into high gear, demoralization, that was the plan. Trump is desperately trying to reverse that, doing a great job overall. And so really it's an information war for the public to not panic when we go through this because we are winning. But this was the only course.

2:59:55 And again, Mexico and other countries do super devaluations to get out of debt. We're not doing that. It's a moderate one to then bring the jobs industry back, financial security, sovereignty, just the decency of having a job. All of these issues. And so this had to be done and it's being done and we are winning in reality, but are we winning in the hearts and minds? Can you speak to that? And let's do a pitch for gold and silver. You're the top silver broker in the country because that's what you pitch. You also have gold. You have the highest ratings. You have the best prices. You're the place to go to, Dr. Kirk Elliott.

3:00:35 We're not winning the hearts and minds of people quite yet, in my opinion. Because we still need a little bit more time. Alex, everyone knows it's been watching you. You've lost a lot of weight, right? You've done really good. You're working out, you're hitting it hard, you're watching your diet. You've lost what, 65 pounds, something like that? But so the first two weeks when you were hitting the gym hard, you're not really seeing any results. All you're feeling is I can't move. I feel terrible. This is where we are, I think, in the economy right now is we're starting to get healthier. We're starting to get better. We're feeling the initial pain. And it's like the metabolism has to kick in and then we're going to see massive results. And that just takes a little bit of time.

3:01:19 It just does. There's a lag effect and an impact effect from when you have policy to when you see the fruit on the tree. And you don't get freedom of instant gratification, but it's all market fundamentals. That's why, that's how you called it all. I mean, it's a fact. If we just don't panic, we win. Yeah, we can't panic. We have to be patient. And I think by the fourth quarter of this year, the first quarter of next year, all of Trump's policies are going to be kicking on all cylinders and we're going to feel it. Right. So in the meantime, people are starting to wake up. They're starting to see the difference. So we're starting to notice, well, boy, some of these things don't make sense. I don't know if the stock market's going to be healthy for a while. And you're starting to see central banks around the world

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3:04:14 And then I called our Vatican expert, Leo Zagami. He's giving me tours of the Vatican and he still lived in Italy 10 years ago. And he predicted Francis, the first Jesuit Pope, years before it happened, he'd exposed how they use pedophile rings to blackmail the church to fully take over more of it. And we were hoping they get a real Catholic or traditionalist in there, but that did not happen. Reportedly, this guy, according to Zagami, is worse than Francis because it's a continuation of the deepening takeover that's happening. So we got Dorothy, Paul, Gary, Laureen, Linda, Nick, Annie, Frank, Julie, Jake. We're going to get to all of you, your statements, your opinions, your view on the new Pope. And you can ask questions if you want of Leo Zagami. He's here to ride shotgun with us. We're going to go to all of you here in just a moment, but here is the new Pope being announced. He is wearing the mozzetta in the stall.

3:05:19 Boblio the 14th, the former Cardinal Robert Cripo of Chicago in the United States. A scene very reminiscent of Pope St. John Paul II when he came out on the loggia on an evening similar to this in 1978. You can feel the emotion in the crowd. They barely know him, but they know who he is. All right. Leo's a gummy bestselling author researcher. Leo's a gummy.com is our expert here riding shotgun with us. Uh, Leo, since you were on an hour ago, I know you've done more research on this guy covering up pedophile rings and things. That's even mainstream news as that fits into the whole paradigm. We've seen anything else you've learned about the new pub since then, then we're going to go to these callers.

3:06:17 Yes, he's been quite open against the Trump immigration policies and criticizing Jay DeVance. As you know, Jay DeVance had a bit of a controversy with Pope Francis. And in February of this year on his media, on his social media, the present pope launched an attack against the immigration policies of the current administration. And this was right at the time when he was elevated as cardinal on February 6th, 2025. That means that he couldn't have participated if

3:06:56 Before entering the hospital, Pope Francis didn't do that last move. So this was very well orchestrated. He apparently was groomed by Pope Francis into this position. And if you want, we can later talk about that. But in any case, he's no friend of the Trump administration. He's been very outspoken about is criticizing the immigration policies, particularly the ones associated with Trump and JD Vance. So they knew Francis was about to die. They accelerated him into Cardinal and just brought him right in.

3:07:32 Yes, because this is really about challenging Donald J. Trump. And that's why Trump prior to this did that meme, which looked like a joke, but in reality was a clear message to a conclave, which of course with 80% of progressives was about to elect somebody else that will bring the church closer and closer to communist China, because of course this Pope is also a supporter of the Vatican-China deal. Wow. So worse than Francis.

3:08:11 That is so bad in your view. We'll see what Catholic callers think. Dorothy in Texas, you're our first caller. Thank you for calling. Welcome to the broadcast. Thank you. I sadly 100% have to agree with Leo Zagami you have on right now. This guy is bad news. The first thing I thought of when they said he's American is he's going to march right into the White House and proclaim that we need that money back for all those immigrants and saving all the little pet projects that the globalists have. They're just trying to put the patina of Christianity and Christ over all the globalist policies, just like Francis.

3:08:50 And I love how Vatican won't take any illegal aliens in, but says every Western country must take them. And that JD Vance isn't a good Christian or Catholic because he said we got to take care of our own citizens first. I mean, the Vatican is so hypocritical on this, Dorothy. Well, it's not just hypocritical, it's corruption. There's lots of questions about the validity of Francis in the first place. I mean, it's hard for a Catholic to really step outside and say, can a person who espouses non-Catholic

3:09:26 beliefs and actions and doctrines be Pope. And so it's hard. I hope that maybe this guy will wake up people, the regular Catholics in the pews to say, wait a second, he might call himself Pope, but what is he advocating? What is he teaching? Can he really be Pope if he's not even Catholic? I mean, that's kind of the point I'm at right now, you know? And so it's fitting to me to the name Leo XIV because Leo XIII was a very conservative pope who actually brought us to St. Michael's Prayer because he had a vision of Satan infiltrating the church. So I think that's a big like, hello guys, we need to stand up as Catholics who really know our faith and say, hey, you can call yourself pope, you can wear all the beautiful vestments and

3:10:17 you know, do the incense thing, but what are you actually seeking? Is it in line with Jesus himself? Is it in line with the tradition of the real magisterium? Powerfully said, Dorothy. I want you to have a final comment in a moment, but Leo, I'm going from where I've interviewed probably 50 times over the years, including in Rome. Aren't you named after the Pope she just talked about? Yes, the new name is Pope Leo, but Pope Leo XIII, like she said, was a staunch opponent of the Jesuit increased relativism and also Freemasonry. He actually supported publications like the one of Monsignor George Francis Dillon, which was, and also he declared war on Freemasonry with an encyclical called

3:11:00 humanum genus, and also in Immica bis, one from 1892 and the other one from 1884. So he was no friend of the globalists and the Freemasons who took over the Vatican with Vatican II in the first part of the 1960s. He's the direct opposite. So it's a little bit like the Jesuits. They call themselves the Society of Jesus, but they are the first enemies of Jesus. So it's appropriation, which is something really sad, especially for me, because I can't change my name. But this guy changed it and took over a name that up until yesterday was a respectable Catholic name. All right. Anything else, Dorothy? Oh, she's gone. Boom. I wanted her to finish up. Let's go to Paul in Florida. We're taking a call from Catholics on the new Pope. Paul, thanks for calling. Go ahead.

3:11:49 Hey, thank you, Alex and Mr. Zogami. Trump will prevail. Common sense. Give it time. Expose it all. What is your view of this guy? Do you agree with Leo that he's worse than the last poverty? Do you think he's good? Leo's the expert. He knows it better than me. So let it play out. Trump will expose it. Trump will prevail. All right, thank you. Let's go to Gary in Texas. Go ahead, Gary. Welcome. Hello. Yes, sir. Go ahead. Alright, I just wanted to say on the new Pope and everything, it's a little scary. Just thinking about it, everything that, you know, the expert's saying here, he knows everything. It just sounds, I don't know, it's a little terrifying to think of, but my question to him would be, what exactly do you think we should do as Catholics and things like that? What's the next steps for us? Like, what do we do?

3:12:48 Okay, thank you for this question, which I think is very appropriate at this time for all Catholics. I was born Catholic, I was raised Catholic, and I'm still a nominally Catholic because of course it's part of our DNA. And as Catholics, if you are born in a Catholic environment, you stay a Catholic all your life. However, I am a pre-consular Catholic, which means I don't believe in anything that came out of Vatican II. And with this new Pope, All those, you know, we had the hundred priests going to Mother Mar-a-Lago, exercising the place, blessing the place, bringing in homage to Donald J. Trump an image of the Holy Mary.

3:13:28 Everybody was hoping for something different. I know that. Even JD Vance, who of course is a relatively new Catholic, who became Catholic in August 2019, hoped for a change towards conservatism again and re-embracing maybe the Latin mass and so on. But that's impossible. The system is rigged. So people like, of course, the former Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano and others will at this point suggest for a schism. And there will be those forces, those conservative forces within the Catholic Church that will suggest a schism. And of course, if we are no longer, it's no longer possible to relate to a Pope like this and to a church that for the last 12 years has seen empty churches, empty seminaries, it's a little bit like the woke military that Hexhead took on. Now it's being repopulated.

3:14:23 But during the presidency of Joe Biden, it was going the other way. So this church is going further into wokeism. I don't think that we will find any solution. I mean, in April 2025, this present pope retweeted a post highlighting the photo of auxiliary bishop Evelio Meviar. for the condemnation of the deportation of a U.S. resident questioning, and he said this, and I quote him, do you not see the suffering? Is your conscience not disturbed? How can you stay quiet? So this means that people like Tom Oman, who is a friend and who is a Catholic, will of course be attacked.

3:15:04 and will find themselves in a very awkward position, as well as those hundred priests that went to Mar-a-Lago, those traditional priests, is about time to really think about the future of us as Catholics and see if it's maybe the time for a schism that will lead us away from this heresy which has now become the Church of Rome. Has anything ever happened in the almost 2,000 year history of the Catholic Church like this? No, we have never been at this level. It's been an increase, you see. After the Second Vatican Council, there was still John Paul II and Joseph Ratzinger who kind of resisted the Jesuit takeover, as I explain in my latest book.

3:15:48 They tried to even commission the Jesuit order, but it didn't work out. Eventually, with the first Jesuit pope, the faith of the church was sealed. Nowadays, of course, this is a product of it. And you see, the further we go, the worse it's gonna be. I mean, the problem here is also being that America has not really invested in the Catholic Church as much as China is investing. The church is for sale, sadly. And these days, the Chinese Communist Party and their Catholic Patriotic Association has literally taken over the church by giving them- Sure, sure. So, I mean, we're back to Jesus in the synagogue beating him.

3:16:30 because the money changers are taking it over. It's the same thing. The money is taking it over. Yes. I mean, when you're talking about two billion or less, about 1.7, 1.6 every year from the Chinese Communist Party to the Vatican, that is buying. And then the person who facilitated all this was Theodore McCarrick. With Nancy Pelosi, who is a fifth class Jesuit agent, I mean, here we are talking about people who are facilitated and who of course, the other day died in early April, was one of the worst pedophiles the church ever seen. And pedophilia is running rampant still in the seminaries. And from the example that this guy gave when he was provincial superior in Chicago, we cannot expect

3:17:14 any paedophiles to be exposed or kicked out of the chair. Oh yeah, one other thing. That was my question for him, but for you, Alex Jones, I wanted to ask how we talk about the globalists like to put things in our faces and like put their plans out and everything. One thing that I had a friend bring up to my attention recently, the band Slayer, they have a song called World Painted Blood and it's literally everything that's been happening since 2020 till now and everything that's still coming out right now. So I just wanted to ask you if you've I've only been listening to you for about three years now, so I don't know if you've ever broken that down. Yeah, I'm not familiar with that song. I mean, I've heard Slayer songs on the radio. Hey guys, what's the name of the song? And I'll print the lyrics. What is it? World Painted Blood. World Painted Blood. Well, I know people that know the guys in Slayer. I mean, I know like the top heavy metal folks. I'm just gonna say names. And they said, listen.

3:18:10 With most of these groups, it was just to sell records. The record executive said it. But Slayer are devil worshippers. I mean, they're the real deal. And then the other head guy died from a spider bite and rotted his whole body. I've been told the stories. I mean, we're talking devil worshippers. So if anybody was going to get real information and pre-programming, it's Slayer. I mean, I've been told you're talking full-on Satan worshippers. So thanks for the call. It's been a major news story for months that in the last eight and a half months, I've lost 63 pounds and gained muscle. And people ask, how have I done it? Intermittent fasting, better diet. and taking the right supplements. That's how I've done it. And I gotta tell you, out of all the great supplements I take from thealexjonestore.com, these three right here are the Trifecta. The ultra methylene blue, the highest quality USP pharmaceutical grade, that cleans out your mitochondria, gives you incredible energy, the workouts are insane, it's amazing. But I've only been on that about three weeks, and that just supercharged me next level.

3:21:04 Leo Zagami, Vatican expert is our guest. We have a global political realignment. Trump is winning on so many fronts. The culture war, securing the border, the trade war, trying to stop the physical wars, but we're not gonna win them all. And this is sad for Catholics and sad for the whole world that this new Pope is there. I think that's what this comes down. Leo, I wanna go back to the loaded phone lines here, but just in general, How would you describe the world political realignment right now and what are your current numbers or how would you predict Trump's gonna do?

3:21:47 Well, Trump is fighting basically the Jesuit-led New World Order. I mean, Shanghai, China, globalism, it was built up by the Jesuits. So there is historical evidence, which I outlined in my latest book about it. It's not just a conspiracy theory. It's irrefutable. I mean, they set up the whole deal, set up the trade routes 500 years ago with Portugal and the maps, the rudders they had that nobody else had, and they then helped put Mao Zedong into power. Yeah, and in Shanghai, actually, the French poured money for the Jesuits to establish Shanghai as a hub, even for scientific research and stuff. And today, the Jesuit headquarters in Shanghai is next to the cyber unit that is one of the most fierce one of the Chinese intelligence that regularly attacks

3:22:31 Our facilities, their hackers are based there next to the Jesuit headquarters. So this is really what they are doing behind the scenes. In regard to this specific person, Prevost, our Pope now as Leo XIV, he has shown special concern for Venezuelan migrants. including the gangs. So imagine what kind of person is this, especially because in the last few years, a lot of Venezuelans have been forced to go to Peru where he was in charge there. And so he seems to have a special concern for that. I mean, you read his writings, it's almost like he writes the Democrat talking points.

3:23:13 Absolutely, but the Democratic talking points are the points of the Jesuit order because they all come from Fordham, Georgetown, from all the secret societies that are in there. By the way, it came out behind the scenes with Bloomberg and the Democrats, the DOJ, quarterbacking the lawsuits against me is Georgetown. That's come out in the news. It was their idea. or

3:24:05 a good person. This is me next to the professor. Not everybody who has studied with the Jesuits becomes a Jesuit agent, but almost 90% of them become Jesuit agents because their methods of teaching are so insidious, so pervasive, they literally brainwash you. and Trump resisted. And actually in my new book, I show testimony of people who say they are angered with Trump because he didn't embrace the Jesuit values while he was there at Fordham studying philosophy and theology. I mean, I think that we have really with Donald J. Trump a unique possibility of resisting this Jesuit led New World Order. Absolutely. We got to go back to calls for people that don't know.

3:24:48 And they always hear about all the Jesuits, the Jesuits, Hillary, Newsom, they all say they follow the Jesuit system, modern communism, all of it. And it's a 500 year old intelligence agency that always wanted to get control of Catholicism and finally pretty much has. And so people don't know hospital comes from 800 years ago, a order that created medical stuff in Jerusalem out of France. So the oldest intelligence agencies aren't called intelligence agencies. And so the model of intelligence agencies, Hitler modeled the SS after the Jesuits. The first model, we all know 007, came out of Queen Elizabeth I and John Dee, who were doing counterintelligence against the Jesuits who wanted to kill her. The Jesuits were behind Guy Fawkes. The Jesuits were behind all this. No wonder

3:25:41 At one point, though, the Jesuits were actually in support of 1776. That's why we have the Carroll family, for example, involved with two founding fathers and also the first American bishop was a former Jesuit. also had an enemy at the time, which was Protestant England. That's no longer the case. We saw King Charles visiting Pope Francis. We saw now this new reality of unifying the whole of Christianity under the Vatican. We got to go to the polls. You got to come back. It's so important to stay there. Linda, thanks for holding in Denver. You're on the air with Leo Zagami. Go ahead.

3:26:20 Yes, it's hard for me to know where to start. I want to first quickly say I'm a 77-year-old traditional stay-at-home Catholic because a bunch of investigation I had to do when over a period of 10 years my children were being taught different than I was taught, my mother was taught, my grandmother was taught. And that started me looking and researching because I care about the truth like you, Alec. And trying to boil it down to the most important points, but you can call me later because I can back up everything I'm saying. Of course, I started homeschooling after my investigation. Are you familiar, I've been wanting to call for some time, are you familiar with the permanent instruction of the Alta Vendita? No, but Leo maybe, what is it?

3:27:13 I'm going to tell you what it is. It's almost a three century long plan of the Masons to number one, infiltrate and destroy the Catholic Church from within so that they then could take over the individual nations and have their global government. Well, they succeeded in taking over the Catholic Church at Vatican II, 1962 to 65. Three particular Masons, but there were others as well, hijacked the Council and implemented falsehoods.

3:27:48 They have no authority to do. Well there's certainly been a big fight between Masons and the Catholic Church and Leo's an expert on that. Yeah, yeah, and of course you had Adam Weishaupt who's a Jesuit but also Jewish who then set up the Illuminati. I would like to add something here, because the Jesuits now there is new evidence that actually has been found by a credible Masonic archivist who still works today for this research. In the 1730s, the Jesuits were in a lodge called the Lodge of St. Edward. And so the Jesuits also during their suppression, because there was a period in which they were kicked out of France, Portugal,

3:28:29 And then eventually also the Vatican kicked them out in 1773. During the suppression they became particularly active in Freemasonry. But this new research is demonstrating that they are involved with the high degrees that we call the ancient and accepted Scottish rite today, which is the most influential Masonic rite in the United States of America. stating that the Freemasons took over the Catholic Church is only partially true because during Vatican II we saw the symbiosis, the coming together of the Jesuits and the Freemasons to take over the Catholic Church. Sure, sure, and we got a lot of calls to get to. I want to get people's take on this current pope, but we'll have you back, Leo, and have a whole discussion about the Masons because, again, it's like people saying Jews run everything or Catholics run everything. They're evil and good.

3:29:19 Always, going to different fissures and things. And then you have George Washington that's a Mason. And then you've got all this others. And then I know you've been a Mason previously and discovered what's going on. And so I see it as these subgroups, these ultra groups, use any organization or group to get into. So in my research, saying it's one group, And I'm not an apologist for the Masons or the Jesuits or some of the Jewish mafia groups, but my point is when you study them at the top, it's the same leaders of all of those key groups. Is that inaccurate, Leo? That's accurate. In fact, in my new book I call them the Luciferian court. I mean, Ingolstadt, where the Jesuits had founded their stronghold against the Protestants, became then the place where Adam Baship grew up his order, which initially was presented as being anti-Jesuit, but in reality married

3:30:08 The whole of Jesuitism and copied also in a very accurate way their constitutions. And eventually a guy who was the left-hand man of Bishop came out of the order, accusing him of being in reality working for the Jesuits. The Jesuits are, in my book, the ones that control the Freemasons, the Illuminati, the think tanks. And I have evidence, even in the foundation of the Club Bilderberg, But let's explain that. It's just like the CIA funded the anti-war movement to create the leftist movement, and then corporate media says, oh no, they were sabotaging the anti-war. No, they were creating it to create that schism and that clash. And George Washington in his letters on the Illuminati and the French Revolution explained that our revolution was different from theirs.

3:30:56 and explained that there were these different groups manipulating within it. And so then it was basically what you're saying, I know the history shows that, the Jesuits were trying to create this big fight between Masonry and the Catholic Church so that the Jesuits could come in and pose like the saviors of it while they were actually infiltrating and taking over a lot of Masonry. And then to create that clash and then to energize people to join the Masons that were anti-Catholic to then control both sides. Well said. I can't have anything to add to that. You described it perfectly. At one point, the Jesuits unleashed a guy like Leo Tuxedo who started to tell all kinds of extraordinary tales on Freemasons and what was going on. Even the Pope believed in what he was saying. Then after 12 years, he said, oh, I just made everything up.

3:31:46 putting in a very bad situation the Freemasons who even believe in his tales, as well as the Catholic Church. And all this was because the Jesuits wanted to push their own narrative against that conservative Pope that had the name Leo XIII. So they will create a big crisis to pose as the saviors. Yes, they were just like we know I said 25 years ago the CIA Mossad and all them on record USAID funding all the Al Qaeda Isis letting them in doing it all to then take our rights away countering them then they give them control of Turkey I mean a Turkey of Syria and of Afghanistan and you and it goes back to Napoleon who was Converted to Islam all of it. I mean, it's just all it's a satanic order and

3:32:34 manipulating all the groups against each other and that's why the average Mason hears this and says that's not what we do. The average Catholic hears this goes that's not who we are. The average Jew hears this says that's not who we are. And you see the average now the Protestants or the Christian Zionists and it's all a big giant thing that Albert Pike talked about creating this huge conflagration. Incredible discussion. We got to get more calls though. Let's go to Nick in Florida. Thanks for holding her on the air. Hey Alex, this guy's obviously part of the greedy homo clique that is allied with the New World Order. The last pope was a Freemason, a communist from Argentina. He basically had it in his DNA. And he disappointed this guy at Cardinal all of five minutes ago. And he's from Chicago. And we call this the passion of the church in the end times era, which we may be in, I'm not sure.

3:33:25 The church has to be betrayed just like Jesus Christ was betrayed because the church is the bride of Christ and Archbishop Vigano is the man who should be Pope. He is the one. Oh I gotta tell you if he was the Pope I'd probably become a Catholic. He is so smart and so dead on. He's a saint. He's gonna be a saint in the future. And the people, the problem is we don't have a Catholic outfield. We are too timid. I mean, there's a guy, Dr. Taylor Marshall, who's a Texan. You may want to have him on. He's the closest thing we got to you. But we just, we won't call it for how it is. I mean, these people are not Catholics. What they are is they're Freemasons and Communists who get recruited because they're homosexuals. They come from, you know, broken homes sometimes.

3:34:12 or fatherless and they get groomed and they get into the homo prince lifestyle where they've got a bunch of money and you know private chauffeur and stuff and they're not catholic or christian at all they're just mercenary. Powerful points uh anything else Nick? Leo Zagami is 100% right I'm also a pre-conciliar catholic see there's something called the Saint Gallen Mafia which started in um yeah which which which I dedicated a whole chapter on that. There is new information. By the way, Dr. Taylor Marshall cited my own information in his book, which I like very much, and I cited myself. But I also added new information to my new book, to his own information. Unfortunately, I really didn't understand why Taylor Marshall thought we could still have

3:35:01 a Protestant, sorry, a conservative Pope that will lead a war against this progressivism in the church. It is literally impossible at the moment to save the Catholic Church and of course he is going to unify everybody, even the Protestants. We got to jump, we got to jump. I could talk all day about this, very interesting. Annie in California, you're on the air. Thanks for calling, holding and calling. Go ahead. Yeah. Hi. Hi, Leo. I watched your podcast with your wife. You guys are the most adorable couple. And it's because of people like you and Father Rippinger and Cardinal Bichard, I can't pronounce his name, that there's a schism because this is not my mother's or grandmother's

3:35:50 Catholic Church, I'm Italian, Irish, Catholic. This next generation, the Catholic Church has its own InfoWar going, and we really need more Father Rippingers to come out. And I think this next pope, because we're not ignorant, we listen to the InfoWar, we have all of this technology where this generation of Catholics does not ignorant and because the Holy Spirit's moving that Catholics I think had it with the last Pope. Oh yeah, that's why in Europe and here and the Catholic Church leadership is behind it there is a war on traditional real Catholics and they're saying that's the number one threat because they're worried about you taking your church back over.

3:36:33 Yeah, so just speak to if you would Leo because we follow you. You are the info war on the side of the Catholicism. I follow you. I love the podcast with your wife. I go back and watch those all the time because you guys are the cutest couple ever. But it's because of you. I agree with what you say and I agree that we need to protect the real Catholicism. That's why in this book I said, ultimately, I still define myself as a Catholic. People say, are you not reborn? This and this other. I stay where I was. I am born within the Catholic Church and I want to save the Catholic Church, which is part of my DNA. Well, I'll just say this. I mean, I'm not a Catholic, but watching this, the conservative Catholics, I know are some of the best people, like Mel Gibson, all those folks,

3:37:22 It's good. We need to see this reform, schism, whatever you call it. I think it has to get worse for it's better. We got to jump. Thank you, Manny. I could talk to you all day, but we got to get more people on. Let's go to Jake in Ohio. You're on the air. Go ahead. Yeah. So I had a African priest that was from Ghana and he tried to tell me that he did not know about Lolli Bella in Ethiopia. I'm 44. I've known about since I was 15. So that sent me down this road. You know, just my BS detector went off. So this is why I think he chose the name Leo, and this is about a – something called Yaldabaoth, and Yaldabaoth means little boy come here. What she produced came to be something material like an aborted fetus. It took shape from the shadow and it became an arrogant beast, something resembling a lion. So that dude is just horrible, man.

3:38:15 Yeah, well I mean I can't not say that you are right but I still think that we can pray for a future in which something might happen, something dramatic that will reshape us. I was going to ask, could this Pope have a Saul of Tarsus, Road to Damascus moment, a miracle? I don't think so, but I think that Rome might be destroyed and this papacy might actually have to suffer God's judgment because at this point only God can intervene in this whole thing. All right, thank you Jake. Julie in Texas, you're on the air, go ahead. Yeah, Alex? Yes, welcome. Yeah, thank you. And so I had a question for Mr. Begami because

3:38:58 I grew up Catholic, but I am non-practicing for many years. When I started looking at the popes and who the possible next pope might be, I saw this, don't even ask me to pronounce his name, but the cardinal from Congo. I was wondering what Leo thinks of this guy. I mean, what I read about him, he seems really nice. And when I was looking at the pictures of the people, I'm going like, I just see almost the white light of the Holy Spirit around him. You're talking about Peter Turkson.

3:39:35 Oh, no, no, no. I mean, this guy is like a name I could not pronounce. From Congo. From Congo. I think I understand who you mean, the Franciscan, Abongo, who has been one of Africa's most outspoken Catholic leaders. However, the problem at the moment with electing an African pope seems to have been that most of them are rather conservative. And this conservativism goes against the plans of the new church. So I totally understand what you mean with Fridolinga Bongo Bizungu, because he is a guy who might have that more conservative standards, many others within the African church. However, Pope Francis has really tried to destroy the fundaments of the African church by

3:40:26 elevating to the cardinalship more and more progressive people. Absolutely, all right. Thank you. We got to move quick. I talk to these callers a lot. We got to get to the next person. Lorene in Chicago. Talk about the belly of the beast where the new Pope comes from. Lorene, go ahead. Hi, and nice to talk to you. I have been trying to get this message to you, and it's so interesting that I am on here now, so I think it's meant to be. I'm from Chicago. My husband tells me, actually, this pope is now from my neighborhood in Chicago. Chicago, and I think Stupich had a lot to do with it. I'm a traditional Latin mass Catholic, and he hates the Latin mass as do many of them there. And I believe that this Pope is a continuation of the message of Our Lady of Fatima, and that message is really critical to the Pope.

3:41:18 the next pope and the period of peace that she promised. This is the Marian time that we are in. And she asked, as part of her prophecy or request in 1917, for the pope to consecrate Russia to her immaculate heart as she orders, the specific means. 14 times it's been done by popes since Pius XII, and they've never done it correctly because the result is a period of peace. And of course, we don't have that. So, interesting for you, Alex, I just want to let you know, Father Gruner is the Fatima priest. He is known forever to be the priest that has promoted the true message of Our Lady of Fatima. He was asked by Putin in 2014, he was sent to an embassy to meet with Father Gruner because

3:42:06 Putin wanted to know how Russia was implicated in the message of Fatima, and he was the expert. So the embassy, or his ambassador, went and met with Father Gruner, and then he went to meet Putin, met with Pope Francis. When he got two different stories, he then decided he wanted to meet with Putin himself. And I just found this out reading the Fatima Crusader, Fatima.org's website. And I just found this out, that Father Gruner was preparing to meet with President Putin and three days, perfectly healthy, three days before he met with him, he died of a heart attack. I gotta jump, but interesting. Do you have anything about that, Leo?

3:42:51 Well, of course, the third message of Fatima that has been disclosed by the Church is a little bit dubious because like Father Malachi said, there was another message that was instead kept secret because it talks about the destruction of the Church. And that's what I was actually citing before. The apostasy of the church forms the background context of the first secret of Fatima and this apostasy begins and continues now with this new pope and the punishment is a real punishment, it's a physical punishment. All right, Leo, we're out of time, the show's over. Owen Troyer is about to come on. Join us again soon with more developments. Leo Zagami, leozagami.com. I'm gonna have you on for a full hour about your book. Thank you. Thank you, Alex. I'm sorry to Paul and Karen, I tried to get to you, I got a lot in, but we're out of time.