25:59 Hey man, yeah, yeah, no, no, look, Steven's not gonna be in today and we really need you to come in and host the show. What do you think? What do you say? Can you help us out? Okay. What'd he say? He said he's on his way. What the hell is a red tide? Alright, well I've been a fan of Steven Crowder for over a decade, been friends with him for years.
26:58 and when nobody would defend me who had a big media platform when I was getting totally banned four years ago, he was pretty much the only guy Joe Rogan a little bit later helped out but to say it was wrong. So I'm always indebted to him for that but he has a lot of courage but I said this when I hosted his show Monday He's the first person to convert the big mainstream platform audience to a new independent pro-free speech audience and pull the majority, 70 plus percent of it currently, three, four, five million people a day, as big as Tucker Carlson's show on Fox. So that's how big it is. That's why he's under attack. And when they asked me last week to host the show, I said, are you sure about that? And they said, yeah, Steven doesn't care. His words are F YouTube, F everybody that isn't for free speech.
27:46 So, I think he knows what he's doing. Then the Media Matters kooks came out and tattled Monday, like we're doing this secretly, and said, Steven Crowder openly flouts YouTube, lets Alex Jones host his show, and promote Infowars. Oh my gosh, well there's not even a YouTube rule saying that. So, obviously, this is outrageous. But what's so exciting is, is that no other platform can handle 2-3 million people on it at once. Rumble's finally able to handle what Steve has been doing. So this is a big deal. They're really upset. They're really scared. Everybody should go to Rumble. It's free there. Subscribe so you get the feed. And of course, they also have the subscription. We need to get behind what Steven Crowder's doing. Without further ado, I'm going to bring him in to talk about this. We have all the screenshots he posted on his Twitter of why they did it. And they took down the video where I
28:41 Saw what was at the border we showed video of it on not on his show but on my show And Owen was down there last week and I mean literally what we said is true They're handing babies over with no paperwork to people at airports and buses and they just disappear with social workers and other people with Random people and and they they took that down covering up human trafficking which they admits going on so they Pre-prepare the show they go over the news we went over the news. We researched all was all fact-checked I got there hours before and and we covered real news. I mean everything we said we put stuff up on screen and It's because it's true and it's powerful, it's popular is why this happened. So now he's one strike away from being taken off YouTube but I don't think as he said he gives a flying you know what. So Steven, congratulations on being a real trailblazer when it comes to fighting censorship that's the key to saving not just our country but the world. Tell us the back story and where you're going from here and congratulations on being number one not just on Rumble but you know dwarfing all the other podcasts.
29:41 Well, thank you so much, Alex. And by the way, yes, I knew the risk. I saw the ride and I bought a ticket anyway. I didn't think they were going to act so quickly, right? Because you'd been a guest on the show so many times and they've made it very clear that's because you were you were filling hosting. But here's the weird thing. They've changed policy for us because the channels should technically be removed. Right. Three strikes and you're out. This was five strikes on two different channels after we've already had strikes in the channel. So they've said, well, since you already have strikes on your channel, we're not going to put on another strike, it's a warning. And I think a big reason for that, Alex, is first off, people need to know this, you were unbelievably reasonable in your presentation with the show. And I know that you're very respectful of this platform, just as if I were to fill in host for you, right? I wouldn't go off on something that I know you wouldn't agree with. It's your show. So you did a fantastic, nothing you did would cross the lines. Nothing you did would violate any terms. As a matter of fact, you were probably softer right on the,
30:35 the humor side of things than we would be, typically, you're a gentleman. So it's really just the fact that they don't like you. And here's the thing, it's an intimidation tactic. They don't want conservatives. YouTube does not want conservatives to see this channel removed from YouTube. Why? Because I know that would be tantamount to saying conservatives aren't welcome. Basic, we're basic. pumpkin spice Christian conservatives here right we're pretty we're not even libertarian we're not fringe alt-right or conspiracy theorists it's pretty mainstream conservatism so to get rid of this channel would be to say conservatives aren't welcome they don't want that but they want to let us know that they'll keep us in line and I can't tell you how many calls Alex that I have had
31:11 with YouTube, with people where they say, well, you know, so-and-so conservative doesn't do this. Well, that's not us. And you know what? I'm not going to be intimidated into abandoning my friends. You're a friend. You know, Brian Callen went through his controversy, right? The whole me too thing that turned out to be verifiably false. He's a friend. Nick DiPaolo's career has suffered. One of the greatest stand-up comedians of all time. He is a Friend, these are Mr. Guns and Gear, right? He's been throttled, shadow banned on YouTube because he teaches actual firearm safety. We just went after him and said, hey, look, can we provide you with some support? So if YouTube thinks that we're going to stop, if YouTube thinks that this is going to intimidate us into abandoning our friends, that's not how we do it.
31:48 And so yeah, Mug Club just got that much larger. That's a subscription portion. People can join up if they want. Right now there's the offer where people can get three months free or they can get $10 off. Latterwithcreditor.com slash mug club. The promo code is E F F U because this is this, there's a real change in tone, Alex, to one point in time, this would have been catastrophic. This is annoying. but it's maybe a 20-25% haircut on the show because most of our viewers have migrated over to Rumble or they're on Mug Club. That's a tectonic shift in the media landscape and it's one that you and I both know conservatives have fought for a very long time. They say, we're just doing our job, business as usual, YouTube. YouTube has not given us answers beyond the fact that Alex, I'm sorry to say, I don't mean to hurt your feelings. You know I like you, you have a lot of good qualities. YouTube does not. They don't like you. That's the reason.
32:36 Well, let me just expand on this and I know you're adding more shows. I've really been, I mean, I've been watching a long time. I love Gerald Morgan, your CEO. He is really smart. And a close second to you. He's a good man. I think he should do his own show. He really hosted the show I got there and I said man you guys vet everything you double-check and it's so complex. You've got all this stuff going on I said Gerald hold my hand training wheels. He was really the host of the show. So really technically I wasn't hosting I was just sitting in your chair and No, no, you're giving him too much credit and here's the thing Alex
33:12 Gerald is smart, but Gerald's a good man. That's what matters here too. You know, Gerald's a good man. He met Johnny boy. I've known him since I was 12. He's a good man. My father's a good man. We have people who've worked here. I've either known for decades or we've worked here for as long as the company has existed, right? And that's even before we were on YouTube back when it was just on AM radio. We have people who have been long. There are real friends and there are friends in the media. I consider you a real friend and I clarified this today, Alex. You know, when we came out and defended you at that point in time, it's not like you and I were close friends. We became closer friends because I felt compelled to defend you, even though at that point you and I didn't run in the same circles. I was dumbfounded that other conservatives didn't step in and do that. And the reason why? Because I knew they would be coming for other people. And that's what's happening right now. You actually, you did a fantastic job. I just want to say this because
33:58 I don't want you to feel any, you did nothing wrong. If anything, let's blame Gerald. Let's say he screwed it up. You do the reasoning is they don't like you. They don't like you. And guess what? That's not a reason to censor speech when you benefit from section 230. That's it. I don't care. Screw them. We'll, we'll let the cards fall where they may. Well, obviously all the political analysts have pointed this out. We need to be a political PhD to know this. If we don't have free speech, And if we can't put forward our ideas, we're going to lose the country. And as you said, they're now moving on to what I would call very entertaining, very funny, but very careful, mainline Christian conservative shows like yours. And if people don't see them coming after you as a danger, it's insane. I mean, there should be congressional hearings of the type of stuff that's happening, but people have been introduced to this idea of censorship being okay. And it's just, it's everything because we can debate whether or not they stole the election, but even Professor
34:52 and so many other political scientists, but Professor Epstein three years ago said the algorithms 90 plus percent against conservatives. It doesn't let you even see the voting information. It suppresses the stories. Obviously, Hunter Biden laptops a big example, but that's One of thousands. Can I jump in Alex? Yes. Because I want to give you credit here. You were talking about the border issue, right? And you covered some of that on my show and I know you covered it on your show. Here's the thing. It's not just about censoring Alex Jones. Ooh, Alex Jones is eccentric. No, no. When you are covering that, people need to understand there are more slaves right now on earth than ever in recorded history. And a good portion of those are sex slaves. And a good portion of those people come through an open border. The information that you provide and the information that we provide you here, even when we have a sexist Miller Lite puppet can, is to draw attention to the truth. When that truth doesn't get out, guess what?
35:35 How do we can't numerate it? Is it another 10,000 sex slaves that are crossed that are trafficked over that border? Is it another 100,000? We don't know. But we do know that if people are not aware of the sex slavery problem with the open border, that ruins lives. It's not just about us talking. It's about people being aware of the fundamental issues, not only freedoms that are eroded, but lives that are ended. That is so pernicious and so evil. And for you to draw attention to that is important. And for people like YouTube and Facebook and big tech to silence it is to put those sex slaves into the bondage of slavery and I say that Alex without a hint of hyperbole so thank God you have the balls to do it. I just wish that everyone could hear it and that's why we decided to say screw you YouTube and migrate to Rumble because I'm not playing that game anymore. Well, let's expand on that. We only talked via text last night saying, hey, will you come on my show? And you said, yes, I will. That was it. But I intended to bring this up and then you brought it up.
36:31 the main thing that they said upset them, we have the stuff they sent you, is the video of me describing what we saw at the border. We've shown all that video here. Everybody knows they're smuggling kids. Everybody knows they're handing them over without paperwork. And imagine people should be more outraged by that, that what they took off air and what they cited is us talking about a collapsed border and human trafficking, which they admit that is so dirty. That is so evil. Yeah, and what bothers me more is when you have people on the right, when you have so-called allies who say, hey, that's the business model, man. We can't run afoul of YouTube because, hey, if we do that, if we violate the rules, then we won't reach anybody. No, look, there are certain wounds that you have that sometimes you need a suture up, you can fix them. At a certain point, it requires amputation. We're at the point where YouTube, Facebook, there needs to be
37:17 uncoupling from them, there needs to be amputation. And the good news is for the first time, it's viable. There are alternatives. Now, Rumble has some stuff to work out with the server issues. We understand that because so much traffic has increased. But that was a partnership that we were looking for. And by the way, so that people like you, so that other people also have a chance at bringing up their channels. That's not going to happen on YouTube anymore. YouTube might as well be called NBC, ABC, CBS, Viacom, News Corp. That's what they want. Those who are spent, the people who spend the advertising dollars. At one point in time, this would have been catastrophic for our business. It really would have been bad. Now, no, look, hey, you better send an army, YouTube. I talked about this today because we have one. And that army is Mug Club. And by the way, we have an offer out right now. If you are a paying member, because look, Alex, you mentioned this where people would come up to you. Some people joined Mug Club, let's say last year. And what happened is, you know, with contracts, this is just what happens in business, right? You have contracts, they lapse, okay. Some people didn't get their mug.
38:13 or they weren't able to get a refund or sign up where we were migrated to today. That's right, well you didn't do your new contract, let me boil it down because I explain this to people on the street, they love you but they've been upset. You leave because your contract's over and then if the other group doesn't give you your subscribers that's their fault and so you've made it good even though I know it's been really hard so tell people about it. Yeah, so what people can do is if you have signed up at any point in the last year, any point in the last year up until May, you can send your proof of subscription to any right-leaning streaming service to freemugclub at Liederwithcredit.com and we will give you three months free. Just send your proof of purchase. And by the way, you don't have to cancel anything else. You just send it in. We're going to send out an email where you get three months free. And if you don't like it, you can leave. Well, that's awesome. But this is bigger than you, bigger than me, bigger than Tucker Carlson. I want to explain this to listeners. I know they know this.