The Ultimate David Icke Interview Must See! Humanity Will Win!

01:06 Wow, the air raid sirens sound a lot like those beautiful whale songs. Thank you for joining us on this Saturday Emergency Transmission. David Icke, ladies and gentlemen, is coming up. And again, a lot of times I do Saturday and other shows live. This was a tape show, so I've already interviewed David. It's the best ever. But wait, that's not hype. Wait till you see it. Wait till you hear it. Two hours, commercial free, coming up right now. And that Adam Curry interview, incredible as well. What a trailblazer. I mean, you just think about the innovations he did that changed our world that we would be in so much trouble if it wasn't for him. Think about how inventing podcasting changed and decentralized power. So amazing. We're going to go to the David Icke interview here in just a moment, but remember,

04:15 And all the money from that sale is going into keeping InfoWars air. And I'm going to just say this briefly, because even my crew, who are great people, get confused. There are 20 plus types of bankruptcy in the U.S. Chapter 5 is to keep a company going. It's an emergency reorganization because the plaintiff's lawyers claim I make $20 million a year. They claim I've got hundreds of millions of dollars. I don't have $2 million in cash. And I don't have stocks and bonds, any of this stuff. I don't have... None of that's true. So we're in the bankruptcy court. to then basically keep InfoWars on air and the crew. Because under Chapter 5, it will go on then and be reorganized and then any profit will go to these blood-sucking globalists and these ambulance chasers. But there's hardly any profit anyways. But they don't want us to stay on air and get money. They've said, shut him down. In fact, I gave it to you guys Friday.

05:08 And Rob do have the clip of their lawyer a month ago in Austin last week in Connecticut saying we want him off the air, shut him down. And I forgot to play that Friday. Can you guys grab that? You know the one I'm talking about. If not, I saw it on that YouTube channel is where that's at. But it's just a minute and a half clip. And it's them saying we don't want Jones's money. We want him off the air. So understand what they call chapter five is basically a zombie operation. Infowars will become an invincible zombie in Chapter 5. I won't get money, or negligible, I'm not getting paid anything yet, and it keeps going and the crew gets paid and we continue on, their lawsuits don't work. Because their goal is to shut us down, well federal laws, you can't just go after businesses to shut them down. So we're using their own laws against them, and so that's why

06:07 We have to make this bankruptcy work to keep the operation going because I can't pay these big giant judgments in these kangaroo courts, but it's okay. If we don't have the money, we can continue on, but we've got to have enough money to operate. So don't be surprised you wake up in a few months and I'm like, okay, we got a month left, we're closing down. I'm gonna do a show over here now. Bye bye, love everybody. That could happen. It's probably not gonna happen. But we are right there in the edge of the red and the black. right there on the edge of the red and the black. And we've got to be in the black to show that we can pay these pirates their toll, which they don't want. But under the law, they're going to get it. And they're going to sit there and get their money every month. You know, I'm going to appeal this. We're talking two years from now. Well, we got to have money made through the bankruptcy. We're going to appeal. And in a couple of years, OK, then, all right, if we're still around, then, oh, you get the profit, which there's almost no profit.

07:09 You guys found that clip? I ask that with your verdict you not only take Alex Jones' platform that he talks about away, I ask that you make certain he can't rebuild the platform. That's what matters. Take him out of this discourse, of this misinformation, of this peddling of lies, and make sure he can't do it again. That is punishment. That is deterrence. But somewhere out there right now is another family getting their kids ready for school, fixing their lunches, going to work, picking up their kid. And there's going to be a day when that child doesn't come home from school. And we know it, and it's sad, but that's the reality. And the question is going to be, where is Alex Jones when that happens? Is he in the studio getting ready to bounce? Or will you stop him? That's going to be in your hands.

08:24 And when we get it all done with all the evidence, we're going to come back and bring answers. Because that's what justice is in this case. So here are these ambulance chasers admitting they don't just want your guns, they want your tongue, they want your free speech, and they want to preemptively take me off the air so that I can't question events. And I'm going to question Jussie Smollett, I'm going to question WDs in Iraq, I'm going to question all these false flags the left have been caught launching, and they don't want that because they want to silence you. There's a way to beat these monsters, these trial lawyers, these ambulance chasers, these Democratic Party operatives. Go to Infowarsstore.com, get books, get films, get supplements, get water filters, get things that empower you and your body and your soul so you can hear the two-hour commercial-free

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13:28 Let's get down to Liz-ness. Let's talk about Reptoids. Be sure to follow these do's and don'ts to avoid a diplomatic incident. Do offer them a cricket, mouse, or vole out of your pocket. Fun fact about voles, a vole ate my father. Don't use loaded phrases like, hissy fit or see you later alligator. Got it. Be respectful. So when do we talk about the oranges? Oh, come on. So the song Shake It Off was about how I shed my skin every thousand years. And the song Bad Blood was about how I drink blood out of my Grammys. A toast to blood. Save some blood for Paul Rudd.

14:09 I gave you my kidney. And it was delicious! Uh, Dragan, meet my favorite reptoid zentitives, Barb Shrike and Xarthax Griswold Walton of the Reptoid High Council. Good evening, your, uh, lizardness. We reptoids have had a great decade. Thanks to propaganda in the media, we have made society more tolerant of our kind, from the Geico Gecko to the Shape of Water. We even got K. Rool in Smash! We did it, everyone! The world temperature is rising. The time is coming, brethren. Soon we shall fulfill the prophecy, overthrow humanity, and become the true rulers of the world! Bizarre video, Pfizer CEO shocks the world, banned out video. We're having a little fun here, and I got David Icke on this emergency Saturday show because I want to cover

15:05 The wheels coming off this, the whole Pfizer, COVID hysteria, them emitting an erasure of your immune system, it kills you, euthanizing the old people, Russia, the pipeline, Elon Musk and his AI robots. So much to talk about with the iconic David Icke. DavidIcke.com or Iconic.com. He has his own channel on Band.Video, David Icke. David, great to have you here. It's commercial free. We got about 50 minutes with you. I appreciate you coming on with us. I'm going to try to sit back and let you roll here. Love the new studio. Love how you've been fighting back and not giving in to the censorship. So you're quite the icon here. Total trailblazer. Great to have you here with us. Thanks, mate. I tell you what, it might be a good place to start, you know.

15:47 with the subject in the intro, because when I came out with all that stuff a long time ago now, decades ago, that it's in the end, what you're looking at is a non-human force manipulating human society. Of course, people thought that was crazy and that was ridiculous and he's crazy and he's mad and all the rest of it. But as it's become more and more obvious, Alex, that what we're looking at is an anti-human agenda in which the very basics of human survival are being very blatantly targeted, more and more and more people are beginning to ask the question, well, maybe if we're looking at this extreme anti-human agenda, maybe

16:50 there's a non-human force behind it then. Because we're looking at, look at the basics, the basics of life, the food, warmth, the atmosphere is being changed. And you are looking at water supplies and access increasingly being targeted. All these different areas of basic human survival are being targeted. And then you look at the human body, which is, as they call it, a biological phenomenon. Then you see these fake vaccines, which they've created this COVID hoax to justify, of course, and they're putting synthetic genetic material into the body, which as we've seen many, many, many times now, is self-replicating and building nanotechnology systems.

17:49 which I say are designed to connect the human body, the human brain, to what they call the cloud. And at the same time, the cloud is being created not just by 5G towers and 6G and 7G in the pipeline, but from increasingly from low orbit satellites, vast numbers of them being put up there by Elon Musk, who's supposed to be a man of the people who cares about our freedom of speech. Well, it's funny because creating this cloud and then connecting the human brain to it via nanotechnology is straight off the script of this global cult, as I call it. This global cult is the same cult that's behind the global destruction of freedom of speech and all the censorship.

18:50 So, you know, I think what we need to do a little bit, those that are beginning to see this, is to realize where it's coming from. From where I come from is that this world we call the human world, the so-called physical world that we're interacting with, that's like a movie screen. When it hits the movie screen, if you're sitting in a movie theater, when the film hits the screen, it's a done deal. You're not changing it then. You're changing it from where it's being projected from, where it's coming from. And the reason that the nature of reality, the nature of the true I is not taught in the schools and the universities, it's not explored by the media,

19:54 is because we're not meant to know that, because once we realize the nature of reality, the nature of the I, the nature of who we are, the nature of what this is, the pennies drop on how the whole thing, the whole deal, is being orchestrated. And that's what I go into in my new book just out called The Trap. So first of all, we have to realize, if we're going to grasp this, is what we call the world of the seen. is not everything that exists in the space that we're looking at. It's a tiny, tiny, ridiculously tiny band of frequency, which we call visible light. And visible light is a smear, an absolute smear, a fraction of the electromagnetic spectrum. And according to mainstream science, that electromagnetic spectrum within which visible light, the only band we can see, is a tiny part.

20:54 That spectrum itself is only around 0.005% of what exists in what they call the universe. We are seeing next to nothing. To understand that is to grasp how these non-human entities, in the end, this consciousness that's manipulating human society. can do it without us being it being seen as seeing. And David, to interrupt, as you've been saying for 30 years, I've read most of your books, haven't read the new one, but I read the first book she wrote 30 years ago that have been proven to be that on. They don't even want us in the visual light spectrum. They want us in the VR, in the Matrix. They want to even get us out of what we can see at this level to be able to totally confuse us. And that's part of the lockdowns they now admit was forcing us into the metaverse.

21:48 Yeah, I mean, from where I'm coming from, and just after the turn of the millennium, I said that this reality is actually a simulation. It's a virtual reality. It's an illusion to confuse us and to hijack our perception of reality. And I said at that time that the limit of this simulation At the level we experience it as the human world, because there are other levels of it, which I talk about in the trap, that limit is the speed of light. The speed of light is not the fastest speed possible, as people like Einstein said. No, no. It's pedestrian compared with what's possible, but it is the limit of this simulation, which is why it appears to be the fastest speed when you're in the simulation.

22:45 Then in the spring of 2021, Scientific American ran a story, an article by an academic. He said that he concluded that we live in a simulation and the limit of the simulation is the speed of light. One of the things I've been saying over the decades is that what we call the laws of physics are actually the coding that's written into the simulation. When you're creating a virtual reality game, which mimics the reality we're in, you write the codes, you write the rules of the game, the limits of the game, what you can do, what you can't do. What we call the laws of physics are actually

23:41 the rules of the simulation, which have been put in there as part of the control system. What this academic said in Scientific American is that we live in a simulation, its limit is the speed of light, and he related, and I say quite rightly, the speed of light to processing speed. If you're writing a a virtual reality computer game, then you write the rules. But even though you're doing that, you're still limited by your processing speed, as this article said. And so that's the limit of the simulation.

24:20 This is like a projection. I do explain in the books how it's created, how we actually create it in fact, but it's the projection. The question is, where does the projection come from? Where does this, because if you look at the matrix movings, Alex, and the symbolism of them, Neo and Morpheus, et cetera, they're in the ship. They're outside the matrix, outside of it. And so what happens is they go into the matrix with that probe in the back of the neck, actually in the reptilian brain part of the human brain, funnily enough. And they go into the matrix not with their bodies, they go into them with their minds.

25:14 And that's what I'm talking about in the trap, about how actually all this is happening in our mind. It literally is a mind game. Where's the mind? Okay, basically, there's a little bit more to it than this, yes, but basically, a way of putting it really simply, is if you can't see it, then it's not in this dimension. And so it's in another dimension. You can see a brain. Yeah, okay, there's the brain. Well, therefore, it's in this reality. We'll call it 3D reality. There it is, the brain. But the brain is not the source of consciousness. What it does is process information. It's the receiver. Yeah, it's a receiver in that sense. It processes information. Now, the question is, where does that information come from?

26:13 Because we have this whole concept now, although science denied it, right up to quite recently. I mean, what you said 25 years ago is now accepted mainline science. I read it in Scientific American, everywhere. All the big billionaires, they sound like David Icke now, but they say, oh, we're going to jack into it and create a new reality for you instead of not letting you know that we can break free of this as well. I mean obviously they're not going to bring us into some bigger better reality. Everything they do is to make the reality smaller and more controlled. More and more myopia of sense of reality. That's what the metaverse is about. It's about creating a simulation within a simulation. In fact, a simulation within a simulation within a simulation. So you've got the simulation we call the human world. Then you've got the smart grid which is actually another simulation.

27:05 And then you've got the metaverse, which is another simulation. So- And they admit the Internet of Things and the smart grid is a new world. They call it a new dimension they're creating of the machines interfacing and directing us. So it's a prison grid. That's exactly what they're doing. And that's why people should look at Elon Musk and ask, what the heck are you doing? Because almost virtually- no, no, no, no, not virtually. Everything he does and produces is straight off the script of the, of the, uh, of the cold. I was saying, you've got the brain, so you can see that. That's in this reality, and it's processing information. This concept of brain placidity, there's a

27:46 a plasticity about the brain in this sense. They believed until relatively recently that once the brain formed, that was it. That was the brain for your life. Now, they know very different. They know that the brain changes according to the information it receives. If you have one source of information, i.e. the cult narrative, let's say, in all its forms, and you never look outside of that for other forms of information and other explanations, your brain, and this is mainstream science now,

28:22 your brain will process information and all the neurons and the neuron networks will form to process that information. And let me interrupt you because you're right, this is mainline science now. Blue light is making little girls go into puberty earlier just from iPads and screens. That's mainline scientific study two weeks ago. And they admit that people that watch more TV, that isn't interactive, people that just sit there and vegetate, don't grow the new neuron networks and literally get early onset of Alzheimer's and die early. And they admit young people in South Korea are dying from watching 20 hours of television a day because your body just literally turns off. Bottom line, this stuff is killing us. A very simple way of

29:09 doing an analogy for this, is imagine that you had Wi-Fi, which is outside the computer or around us, but you program the computer not to read, decode, process vast amounts of information in Wi-Fi. What you would do, the information would still be there. but it wouldn't be in a form that you could see and interact with because the computer would not take that Wi-Fi and put it on the screen in the form of words, graphics, moving pictures, and so on. That's what they're doing with the human brain. Because they know about this malleable nature of the brain,

30:05 They are trying, this is one level of it, they're trying to just let you have one source of information. It's what censorship's all about. So that your brain forms, your neurons and your networks form to process that. And literally, if you're in that mode, and it solidifies enough, it doesn't matter what information you receive in other ways, Because this is why people look at others, say in the COVID era, and they say, look, Why can't they get it? It's so obvious. Well, it's obvious to you because your brain is in a state where it can process that information that sees through the illusion. But if you're stuck in this repetitive, the brain will only decode certain information, which is basically frequencies, then you're literally not going to be able to compute

31:08 what's actually happening. This is why they want us only to see the mainstream media, shut off all other media, that's why they're going for you, because they want to control the source of information, because from the information comes our perception, from our perception comes the way the brain wires itself. They're terrified of of other information being made available to people which will, over time, and with some who are more malleable immediately, will get them to see actually there's a different way of looking at the world. And at that point, the brain in its malleable nature will start changing and start firing in a different way, and it will start processing another form, sense of reality and perception. Now that's what they don't want. What they have to do

32:01 is hold us purely in five sense reality. Because once we are processing information and processing our perceptions only through five sense reality, they got us. We're in the trap, we're in the jail, we're in the cell. And so they are seeking to control in every way the information that we receive. And there's no doubt they're doing that, and you've been vindicated in spades. So big picture, because I want to go through a lot of current issues with you. How are things going for the architects of this post-human world, this cyborg takeover matrix they admit they're now launching? How would you lay out the current state of the world? Because it seems like there's a huge awakening happening, but they're also coming down on us with both feet.

32:46 Yeah, we are in a real state of transition here. We go a certain way and we'll dismantle this. We go another way, and it will get more and more extreme. Again, we come back to the same thing, Alex, the stadium in which this is all playing out, and the stadium in which the outcome of the game will be decided, is the human mind. That's it. Because as I was saying, you can see the brain, so it's in this reality. So where's the mind? You can't see the mind, just as you can't see Wi-Fi, but you know it's there. The mind is on the level that we directly interact with, with the brain, is an electromagnetic field.

33:38 That's beyond the limits of visible light, human sight, but it's there. It's in another what you would call dimension. People talk about a dimension of reality that is very close to this one on the dial. And they call it the astral dimension. Some people call it the fourth dimension. And in the lower levels of that fourth dimension, that lower levels of that astral dimension, which is very close in frequency terms to this world, that's where it's being orchestrated from as I go into a length in the trap. And this is where these entities are.

34:20 that are orchestrating this global cult in the world of the scene, through people like Schwab and Gates and all the rest of them. Talk about the trap, the new book, and these entities. Well, once you realize, Alex, that this reality, this global conspiracy, is ultimately being manipulated from this lower fourth dimension, lower astral dimension, then so much falls into place. Why do these people in the cult take part in Satanism and satanic ritual? Because who are they interacting with? Because they are interacting with entities. I mean, these people may be mad, but they're not completely stupid.

35:11 And they're interacting with these entities in this lower fourth, lower astral dimension from where all this is coming. So they do their rituals and they keep doing them. You know, you see when you look into this, I know you have over the years, that they're doing Babylonian rituals, they're doing Egyptian rituals now. Why? Why are they doing ancient rituals now? Because those ancient rituals were specifically designed to create a vibrational environment which thins out the difference in frequency between this reality and this lower astral reality. And if you keep doing this in the same place over and over again, then it thins it out even more. And I've talked to people who've taken part in these rituals over the years, different parts of the world, because it's a global phenomenon.

36:16 And they explain how these often hideous looking entities, often taking a reptilian form, not always but often, slip into this reality during the ritual. where these Satanists and these super Satanists, which is what the elite are, are interacting with them. That's what they're doing. That's what the rituals are for, to create this interaction. Now, what do Satanists do also? They sacrifice kids. They sacrifice adults too, but they sacrifice kids. Why do they do that?

36:55 Why did the ancients say in places like Central America and all over the world, actually, say Babylon, we are sacrificing young virgins, children, or someone else to the gods? What does that mean? Why would they do that? You come back to the Matrix movie and the Morpheus character, and he's holding up a battery, and he says the machines have turned humans into one of these. In other words, a source of energy. Now, in this lower astral dimension where all this is being orchestrated from, the vibration is very low and very slow. That's why they are what they are.

37:46 That's why they are so what we would call evil, which I define as the absence of love. And so to absorb energy from another source, that energy has to be within the frequency band that these entities operate on. Otherwise, they can't absorb it like two radio stations passing in the same space but not interfering with each other. The energy they want is the energy, which is the energy of them, it's the energy of fear, the energy of terror, the energy of anxiety, of depression, all these low vibrational emotional human states. And that's what they wanted during the COBA deal. Record suicide, record depression, families breaking up, people isolated. That's what they feed off of. Yes.

38:37 fear of nuclear war, fear of not having enough food, fear of the price of energy, all these things. You take a world war, it's a bloody banquet to these entities because of all the emotional charge that goes into fighting the war, all the emotional charge from people back home who are terrified that their loved one is not gonna come home. So it's interdimensional transference of psychic energy. of energy, of emotional energy. They've set up this reality to generate maximum amounts of low vibrational emotional energy. Of course, they've done it very well. They are then feeding off this energy and it's empowering them. They don't want people getting on

39:28 They don't want people loving each other. They don't want people having joy and happiness and contentment, because these are high frequency energies. For instance, when you're in a low frequency state, a low emotional state, let's put it that way, but it's a low frequency state in other words, people say things like, I feel so heavy today. Why is that? Because that state of perception emotion is generating these low slow frequencies. And studies are now showing that electromagnetic artificial 5G and other systems are actually making people depressed so they're artificially putting us into that

40:14 that type of system. I forget the name, but the crews... Sorry, go ahead. And this is why, this is the point, this is why they're doing it. So when you are generating these low, slow frequencies through a low emotional state, or they're coming the other way through this cloud and these low orbit satellites and towers, then The energy, the frequencies going through your energetic field are low and slow. And so when that happens, the field gets denser and you feel this, oh, I feel so heavy. But when you feel joy and love and happiness, yeah, life's great, then they are high, fast.

40:59 frequencies that are generated from those emotional and perceptual states. And so they go through your energetic field and they vibrate it very quickly and it becomes lighter. So people say, I feel so light today because I feel so good. So it's at this level, you see, and this is the other thing, I've done this in some of my books, but back it was, I think it was the 1950s that a guy studied the frequencies of different emotional states and actually listed what they were. And this is the point that we've already introduced, that yes, you can feel an emotional state and generate the frequency. But if the frequency relating to that emotional state is coming the other way through this bloody cloud,

41:53 then the throttle goes both ways. And that's how all this mainstream television watching literally is causing Alzheimer's and killing people. Let me raise this point, David. How is this operation by this force running? How is there war? Because I asked you earlier, you said we're at a crossroads. I agree. And how do we transcend it? Because here's an example. Certainly we see limited reality, but at one point in the universe of the dimensions, we're seeing what I believe is a limited layer of it, or what you call a simulation, but at least something tangible. Why, and literally as you know, thousands of studies, people don't need studies to know this, You go swimming in the Caribbean or the Mediterranean. You go out onto the stars at night with the moon with your friends and laugh and tell jokes by a fire. You walk through the forest or the fields and you feel light and empowered and connected to the universe and God and the infinite. But then when you go and plug into the VR matrix, you feel nauseous, you feel sick, you feel depressed, you have nightmares, you don't sleep well. What is it about being out in nature that counteracts this?

42:57 What they're seeking to do is to negate that. See, at the moment, if you're in a city, China's the blueprint, obviously, you are bombarded with technologically generated electromagnetic fields that are designed to put you in these low vibrational states. But up to this point, you've been able to get out of there. Get out. I talk about nature in a different way, but you can get away from that. You get out into the areas that are not subject to that bombardment. And therefore, these people that have this electrosensitivity, where they're so sensitive to electromagnetic fields generated technologically, that they become very, very sick

43:53 and they have to go and live in caravans in the forest to get away from it, because that's the only place that they don't feel sick. You have this, you know, this building syndrome where people get the same thing, where they work in an office surrounded by these, bombarded by these- Sure, what about the Havana syndrome? Even the top, there's more than 20 CIA scientists sent in who didn't think it was real. They're getting nauseous and super sick now. And I think it's their own devices and their own systems and what they've tied into is physically making them ill. And they think it's the Russians or the Chinese.

44:30 Well, it could be any source of generating electromagnetic field. These satellites that are going up through people like Musk, who's looking at 42,000, well, I say eventually, that's the number being given now, they're seeking to take out or generate these fields of 5G and what follows to every inch of the planet. They need to do that in their agenda because they want to connect, not least through what's going into people with these fake vaccines. Of course, these fake vaccines are planned to be transferred to every other vaccine and any other ones that they can

45:14 justify and come up with their excuses. And therefore, if they're going to connect every human to artificial intelligence via the cloud, as they call it, then they have to hit every inch of the planet with- Absolutely. David, the time we've got left, I want to move through a lot of the current things that are unfolding and happening. But since you mentioned this, in the 1960s, there was an episode, Day of the Dove, in Star Trek where an energy sucking vampire has come on board interdimensionally on the ship and it's playing the Klingons off against the humans and the humans off against each other and as soon as they figure that out and become positive and loving it dissipates it makes it go away. Let's play a clip from Day of the Dove. What is it? Totally unfamiliar. What do you want? What are you doing here?

46:37 And so then they figure out that it's manipulating their emotions. During Lieutenant Johnson's emotional outburst, his expression of hatred and lust for vengeance, the alien's life energy level increased. When the lieutenant became unconscious, the alien lost energy. It subsists on the emotions of others. This one appears to be strengthened by mental radiations of hostility, violent intentions. It exists on the hate of others. To put it simply,

47:44 And it has acted as a catalyst, creating this situation. In order to satisfy that need, it has brought together opposing forces, provided crude instruments in an effort to promote the most violent mode of conflict. And kept numbers and resources balanced so that it can maintain a constant state of violence. It's got to have a vulnerable area. We've got to get rid of it. and all hostile attitudes on board must be eliminated. The fighting must end, and soon. We're a doomed ship, traveling forever between galaxies, filled with eternal bloodlust, eternal warfare. Kang has got to listen. We've got to pool our knowledge. Get rid of this thing. It's almost over. We'll back to David Icke. This is important, though. Lieutenant DeGuerrero? Yes, Captain. Put me on shipwide intercom. Aye, sir.

48:52 Ready, Captain. This is Captain Kirk. A truce is ordered. The fighting is over. Lay down your weapons. Mrs. Kang, cease hostilities. Disarm. The cessation of violence appears to have weakened it, Captain. I suggest that good spirits might make an effective weapon. Get off my ship. You're a dead duck here. You're powerless. We know about you. And we don't want to play. Maybe...

49:52 Maybe there are others like you around. Maybe you've caused a lot of suffering, a lot of history, but that's all over. We'll be on guard now. We'll be ready for you. So ship out! Come on, haul it! Out already! Out! We need no urging to hate humans. For the present, only a fool fights in a burning house. Out! All right, so that's a little long clip, but they knew what they were doing when they wrote that back in the late 1960s. David, Ike, your take on that? Well, I thought that was fantastic, mate. I mean, it just encapsulated, you know, what I've just been saying. And this is the thing. They don't care what we fight about, what we hate each other about.

50:48 And what we abuse each other about, what they care about, is that we do all those things. They're not bothered at why, as long as we do them. Because when we do them... And notice the point is made that it equalizes the forces to keep it going forever. It's an energy transference. Yeah, well, this is a point I've made in the books over the years. This is why I say we don't need to fight. The last thing we do is fight this force. What we do is cease to cooperate with it. One way we cooperate with it is the fight. If you've got an electrical circuit, you need two polarities and the electrical charge goes between them. When you refuse to take part, then that force, which wants to set up an electrical interaction with you, so it vampires your energy,

51:46 Suddenly, it's one hand clapping. It's got no way of setting up that connection because you're not having it. You don't want to fight it. What you want to do is cease to cooperate with it. That's why the power of no is so fundamental. The power of no has ended every tyranny in history. The power of no says, I can see what you're doing, I can see why you're doing it, and I'm not playing your game. I'm not being a pawn in your game. I'm not having it. If you look at the COVID period, if people had said no,

52:28 to house arrest, so-called lockdown, better said no to social distancing, no to masks, none of that could have been enforced. I mean, we would not... And, David, I want to go there and talk about... the fact that people did submit in Australia, in the UK, in the US to some extent, but they woke up. Now the pendulum is swinging back. 1% of who was taking the Pfizer-Moderna shots, according to a study that came out last month, are taking it now. So people are really rejecting it mass. It takes people a while. Yes, you're vindicated. I'm vindicated. Our viewers and listeners are. Those rallies you have with hundreds of thousands, the rallies Robert F. Kennedy Jr. had with millions, I see this as an awakening, but you're right. Now they're coming for the kids. I want to speak to that. But since you talk about

53:10 how they're manipulating us and taking off our energy. Here's Julian Assange, now many years ago before he got arrested or put on house arrest, explaining the goal of these wars like Vietnam or Ukraine is to be endless. Here it is. Because the goal is not to completely subjugate Afghanistan. The goal is to use Afghanistan to wash money out of the tax bases of the United States, out of the tax bases of European countries, through Afghanistan and back into the hands of a transnational security alliance. That is the goal. I.e. the goal is to have an endless war, not a successful war.

53:51 But it's bigger than that. It's energetic at the end of the day. So, David, spend a few minutes just on the temporal level of this dimension for us. We know you're really teaching us a lot here, but specifically the last two and a half years of hell, the euthanizing people here and in your country, the lockdowns, the police dogs, the people being put in jail, the quarantines, that that helped build their emergency infrastructure that's still there. We know they're going to come back soon. I want your take on how that happens. But it does look like they wanted to keep lockdowns going longer, control longer, and that there was a massive rejection. So when they saw the crescendo of resistance building that would have been a chain reaction to take us over the top, they backed off at least for a little while. So your description of

54:33 coming out that you're way more likely in studies to die of COVID or get COVID if you have the shot, that it doesn't work, that it erases your immune system, that it is confirmed to be building some type of nanotech matrix in people. I mean, this is part of something big. What is it? How did it go? And what do you see them getting ready to hit us with next? Well, what they're doing, Alex, is going through their agenda for the human body. Like I said, it's an anti-human agenda. They're moving from human 1.0, the biological body as we call it,

55:10 to human 2.0, which is a far more synthetic body. This was described by Aldous Huxley in Brave New World. This new human is not meant to procreate, it's meant to be produced technologically, which is what Huxley was talking about in world state hatcheries. He said that with the world state hatcheries and the production of the human species by technology, that would be the end of parenthood. From that comes an enormous number of dots to connect.

55:49 First of all, the end of parenthood. That's why in Europe and America, Canada, and so on, you're seeing the influence and ability to make decisions by parents about their children being completely and utterly erased. Why are they doing that? because they're preparing for this no parent society. Now, if you don't need parents to procreate, you don't need men and you don't need women. We had the toxic masculinity agenda where men started to be and continue to be

56:34 abused and marginalized and attacked. And I said when that started, Alex, they're coming for the women next because they don't need men and women in this brave new world of the human 2.0 to procreate. And so they're now going for the women. And the dominant force now in the hierarchy of political correctness is transgender. So where does transgender come from? Why did it come out of nowhere and it was suddenly everywhere? Why are they targeting the children in this extraordinarily extreme, blatant, in-your-face manner with the drag queens and so on? They're doing it because on the road to fusing gender, because this new human is meant not to be male or female,

57:30 There's no need for it to be because you are not procreating anymore. You have to, on the way to fusing gender, you have to confuse gender. You have to take out the basics in the perception of the population of what gender is, not male, female. You have to scramble that whole perception. And they are doing these horrific things to children, both perceptually and literally, with the surgery and the drugs and the castration of young kids, on the road to totally scrambling the perception of gender on the road to the no-gender human. And the no-gender human, as Huxley described,

58:16 would be produced in casts. And these casts would be genetic casts, actually synthetic genetic casts, which would have different abilities. We come back to what we're talking about earlier. They'd have different abilities to process information into a perception, into a conclusion, into a action or behavior. So the worker cast would be unable to process information, thus understand any information beyond their ability to serve as the worker caste. And to back you up, Huxley wrote that in 31. His brother was a head transhumanist, ran the UN. He said in a speech in 61 and his book Brave New World Revisited that this was an actual plan of the elites. And as you know, he was part of that British breeding program, eugenics program himself.

59:14 Yeah, I mean, his brother was a eugenicist. I mean, quite obviously. Of course he would be involved in the UN, which is a front for this cult to justify and to stepping stone towards total global control. So these really are just human-alien collaborators with a center-dimensional force? I mean, the Bible tells us that everything. This is really it. They're building a post-human world, building a nightmare. They see us as lab rats, David. You've been vindicated. Well, again, what I find interesting or what I found interesting over the years as I've researched this, Alex, is that we look at the different religions and so on. What strikes me is not how the religions differ from each other, but actually the common themes. I looked at the Christian belief in demons.

1:00:12 I looked at the whole demonic realm as Christians describe it. I looked at Islam and the jinn, what are the jinn? They're entities that operate outside of human sight, manipulating human society. I looked at the Gnostics, which were vaguely a form of Christianity in theme, if not detail. They talked about Archons in the writings that they left. There was one amazing group of writings by Gnostics. were found in an earthen jar in Egypt. These were mystic Christians that formed the basis of the Renaissance? Yeah, and they left these writings, very substantial writings, in an earthen jar. It's estimated that they were hidden away about 75 miles north of Luxor in Egypt, a place called Nag Hammadi, about 400 AD.

1:01:11 About a fifth of these writings, after they were found in 1945, were found to be about these archons. Now, well, hold on a second. What do they say? They called them archons because archon is a Greek word meaning rulers. They said that these archons created what we call the physical world, and that this was a bad copy of They also talked about the fact that the great ability of these archons was virtual reality. In the translation, what we would call today virtual reality, the ability to manipulate and generate illusions that made people believe they were somewhere was not anything like where they thought they were or what they thought it was.

1:02:11 And then you go to the Zulus in South Africa, and they have the concept of the Chitauri. And wherever you go, I've talked to aboriginals in Australia as I've traveled around the world, and you see these common, common themes of entities operating outside of human sight, which is not saying much given how narrow human sight is. And they're always trying to drag us into their dimension. Yeah, see, if we could think of mind, say fourth dimension is or astral dimension is the dimension of mind. Now, you can be at the higher levels of it and see things and understand things with your mind that people in these lower levels of the astral dimension where these entities are,

1:03:09 cannot see. You're much more expansive in your understanding, in your ability to see the greater picture. You go beyond that too, way beyond that, but you're seeing a much bigger picture. Whereas in the lower dimensions of this, lower levels of this astral dimension, this is where these entities are, what are called archons and demons and all these different names for the same entities, the gods as the ancients would perceive them. And so they are dominating that area of this astral dimension. So they want your mind, the frequency of your mind,

1:03:55 thoughts, perceptions, to be in that level of the astral dimension where they dominate. That's why they're trying to pull us into these low frequency states of mind and of emotion. And David, I want to get your take on how people can break out of that, but I want to play this clip. You talk about Stockholm syndrome in your previous books and how they mind control people. This is Jennifer Gibson, well-known actress. who took one of the poison shots and now has Bell's palsy. She says she'd do it again, and I find one of the prime things that these people that are under this control basically want to destroy themselves and don't care that they're being hurt by the system. How would we break somebody, or how could she break herself out, Jennifer Gibson, out of these things grasped? Here's a clip.

1:04:45 This is not a video I want to make and it's kind of hard to make because as I'm watching myself, I see what I'm going to say, which is I have been diagnosed with Bell's palsy, which is paralysis on one side of the face. For me, it's this side here, the left, obviously. So I got it about two weeks after getting my vaccine and I had a rough go with the vaccine. And I guess still am, but I have to say that I would do it again because it's what we have to do to see people. So I don't know why I'm making this video, but here's my word smile.

1:05:35 It's what we have to do to save people. She believes she's a hero. Can't look at the statistics, can't know the facts for herself. What is going on with this woman, David Icke? Well, you see, what you've got here, and we could talk about the fake vaccine as well and its effect on the psyche of people. I mean, the number of people, I mean, we all interact with people, we both interact with people a lot and we both read a lot. Almost everyone I know that's taken it has less energy, is sick now and acts more zombie-like. It's very sad. Well, I'll tell you the word, Alex, that I've heard so many times in relation to people who've had loved ones or work people with who they work with who've had the fake vaccine when they haven't. It is vacant. These people are vacant. It's basically, we have what people call a soul.

1:06:29 which is experiencing this reality through the human body. That soul is supposed to connect out into the great beyond and the great expansion of awareness, insight, knowledge, all that stuff. The idea of these fake vaccines, one level of them, there are many reasons for them, is to break that connection so that basically, if I'm sitting here in front of a computer, and I'm the soul, I'm interacting with the computer. I've got the mouse, I've got the keyboard, I'm interacting with it. When you get a computer virus, which is essentially in theme is what these fake vaccines are doing,

1:07:14 That computer virus takes over the operating system, and it disconnects the interaction between me, symbolic of soul, and the operating system, symbolic of the body. Now, the five sense level of the person is running the show, and it's been literally possessed by by another force, by being disconnected from its source, what we call the soul. So with this lady, something has happened physically. It's happened in the five sense realm of her life. Therefore, she cannot ignore it. She can't ignore it. Her five senses are seeing it. They're experiencing it. So that level can't be hidden from her.

1:08:09 But what can be manipulated is her response to it, which comes from perception. And her perception is that even though I can't ignore it, look at it, what this fake vaccine has done to me, My response is still, well, I'd have it again, which is insane. But that's the way the program works. Now, if you were connected to what people call soul, if your mind was more expansive, as with all the people who have not had the fake facts, they would say,

1:08:47 Bloody hell, have you seen what this thing's done to me? Of course I'd never have it again. No one should have it. That's what you would say if you had any kind of expansive mind, but these people do not. And therefore they cannot, coming back to what I said earlier, Alex, they literally cannot process the information. Absolutely. So how do you get her out of the trance? How do you, I mean, how do we help these people or are they just lost causes? Well, as I say earlier in our chat, everything is mind. Everything is mind. This force is manipulating mind to perceive and conclude in a way that suits its agenda. But mind, consciousness beyond mind into the great beyond, what people call spirit,

1:09:46 is capable of overriding that. I've said in the trap that the mind is not in the body, the body is in the mind. Mind is generating or decoding the information into what we call the body. Now, once the mind is manipulated to believe it's in the body and the body systems are the dominant force in the relationship, then when a doctor says to someone, you've got five months to live, if you look at the statistics, you'll see that the doctor's prognosis for life

1:10:36 turns out to be overwhelmingly the period that people live before they die. Now, is that because doctors are so clever? No, no, are you bloody kidding? It's because the mind takes on the belief that it has five months to live and that's what it creates. A reverse placebo, psychosomatic, incredible. And I understand the technicals of what you're saying, you're totally right. I'm asking if you had five minutes to talk to this woman on a park bench, just what would David Icke just not as a philosopher, not as a best-selling author, not as a researcher, not as a trailblazer, a maverick, but just as a man, if she was saying this to you, how is there any tricks to get her to realize she can override the control, she can get back in control? Like, look at you. I mean, what have they done to you, sweetheart? Do you give her statistics or is there some way to get her out of the Stockholm syndrome?

1:11:32 Well, in the end, um, you know, it's information that creates the program, the programs, people into that, um, state of mind. And therefore it's information that can deprogram. So we need to, people need to flood her Twitter and Instagram with this interview today or T and so she needs, she needs outreach. Yeah. What, what I would say to her is look at, first of all, look at this level. and look at the fact that you've taken a fake vaccine, which is not a vaccine by any previous criteria, and you've got into this state. Now, why would you then say you'd have it again, given what it's done to you? I would then show her all the other people

1:12:25 across the world, just going by the VAERS system in America and the yellow card system of reporting in Britain, which is only between 1% and 10% maximum of their actual deaths and adverse effects. I would point out that the consequences, not just for her, it's not just a one-off, are absolutely massive. both in deaths and in destroyed health long-term and reduced life expectancy. Then I'd ask her if she really believed that someone who would promote that had the best interests of humanity at heart. I would show her all the kids figures who've died by having this fake vaccine. Because the question comes, why do they want to give this fake vaccine and it's

1:13:18 the ones that follow, to every man, woman, and child on the planet, because they want every man, woman, and child on the planet connected to the cloud and controlled by AI so they don't even have to manipulate perception anymore. It comes direct from AI. That's the whole point. Then I would start to ask, who do you think you are? you think you're just that body, and I go deeper into the nature of reality. And the only way you can get people out of the program is for them to expand their minds into greatest ways of consciousness beyond the program. And this is what, Alex, we call awakening.

1:14:03 What is awakening? It's awakening from the five sense prison, the five sense focus of attention, because that's what it is. The whole process of human control is a focusing attention on the smallest myopia of possibility, of self-identity, of reality. And so if people can, start to ask questions. That's the process, asking questions of what they've been told. And they'll realize if they do any research at all or read other people's research, they'll see that what they're told overwhelmingly is a lie. Absolutely. Well, David, you have been so... You've been... Go ahead. Lies. So when authority tells you something, whether it's a fake vaccine or the reason for a war,

1:14:55 What you say is okay on the basis of the entirety of known human history, authority lies. So I'm going to start on the basis that what you're telling me is a bloody lie, like the the gas pipeline this week. And you've got to convince me with evidence that this time you're not lying and they never will because they're always bloody lying. So awakening is, and what you're doing when you're awakening, what's the process? You're opening your mind to other possibilities. Once you start that process, what are the other possibilities of

1:15:36 what is happening or other possibilities of the reality I'm experiencing, that questioning starts to open your mind. And you start to see things you couldn't see before. And there's a real process. So many people watching this program, this chat, will have gone through this, otherwise they wouldn't be watching this. There's this process known as synchronicity. which Jung talked about, the Swiss psychiatrist, Carl Jung, synchronicity, where things just happen and you think, what's the chances of that? What a coincidence, blimey, how did that happen? And what it is is this, when you are operating on a certain perceptual state,

1:16:27 That frequency that's going out, that is a frequency reflection of the perceptual state, is pulling towards you other frequencies, other magnetic fields called people, places, ways of life, experiences, that relate to that original perception. So if your perceptions are only coming from mainstream media, the mainstream everything, then what you will do will experience things that seem to confirm that what you're told by the mainstream everything is true, because that's all you're experiencing. When you start to open your mind and say, well, hold on, what's some other explanations for this? What's the other possible explanation for this?

1:17:13 That changes the frequency you're putting out because you're expanding, opening your mind to ask those questions. And what then happens is you start attracting to you, and it's a frequency attraction of electromagnetic fields on this level. People, places, ways of life, experiences, coincidences that bring into your life information that start to answer your questions, which you've started asking. And let's be clear, that's why the Satanists and people do the evil acts, is to open up that interdimensional connection to get deeper into that. The other side gets the energy, others get to get deeper into that, they get information from it. But when you're going with God or the light or you open freedom,

1:17:58 then it's not a centralized thing. It's open, it's free, and the universe just expands. David Eich, incredible interview. I know you've got to go on this Emergency Saturday Show, but I had a few just basic questions, quick answers for what's currently happening in the world. What's your big picture? Is Putin really working with the globalists or is he in a real fight with them? I think there's a real fight going on, but I think there's groups playing off both sides. What do you think about the gas pipeline? What do you think about all the major escalations we're seeing there? The global digital currency, just all these big huge events we see unfolding. Well, I said when they played the COVID card that they've entered the room now and they've heard the door click behind them. Because if you're setting out, Alex, to transform global society,

1:18:45 You can work under the radar for a certain amount of time. We've been pointing out over the years, over the decades that this is what the plan is, but because it wasn't impacting blatantly and obviously on people's lives, it was done more subtly than it has been since the COVID era. It's all dismissed, oh, that's no nonsense. Only the awakening people saw it then. But if you are going to transform human society in the image that you want, there comes a time when you have to actually do it. And society transforms in a way that people can see it. And let me just interrupt you because this is so important. I remember 15 years ago on my show, it was 15 years ago, we just moved these studios, and you sent in a lot of shows to me after then.

1:19:32 But we ought to try to find that tape because it goes so viral, people really wake up seeing how long ago you and I and others. Particularly, as you said, I, from my study, see in the year 2016 a global awakening and a big push against the New World Order. But then that will force them to counter-strike in around the year 2000. And if we haven't beaten them by 2025, the world's going to get progressively worse, but we could turn it around in 2025. Well, now we're 70% through your predictions. It's happening exactly like you said you were on a couple years ago. I said, how did you do that? And you just said, you know, opening up to the universe. So can you briefly speak to that and then give us your forward projection into the future again as a literal time traveler?

1:20:13 Yeah, it's hoping to not be on the universe, actually. The universe is, in my view, the simulation. But yeah, if you open your mind and let it connect with expanded states of consciousness, not some spaceship or some alien, but actually the consciousness that you are, because it's one thing to mention here. Just because people use different names doesn't mean they are not relatively on the same page. I talk about a infinite consciousness that I call the all that is, the all that is, has been, and ever can be, and others talk about God.

1:21:04 and others call God different names. But, you know, a lot of the so-called gods are actually these entities. But if you look at the bigger picture of what people call God and the way they see it, then, you know, we're not a million miles away from each other. It's just that we use different language and have a different perception. And what we can all unify behind is, whatever our cosmology or understanding of it is, we know it's real. We know these evil forces are trying to cut us off from that bigger. Yeah, exactly. Because, you know, once you open your mind and start to connect with expanded levels of consciousness that are at levels of frequency beyond the realm of influence of these entities... Sure, and David, you said this a year and a half ago, but I find you so fascinating.

1:21:52 specifically give us more than how you come on a show and your predictions never turn out to be wrong and you say in 2016 there'll be a global awakening in Europe, the US, and Latin America, other areas. There'll be a big push against the globalists and in 2020 they'll launch their counter-assault and if we haven't turned them around by 2025 it's gonna be hell on earth but we could defeat them then and by 2030 which they now admits their end date to beat us we could beat them. How in the... Is it just an imprint you get? Because I have similar things happen to me that I know are right, or was it specifics? Are you talking to the watchers? What's going on here? Well, if I go back to when I had my awakening, I was a television presenter and what have you, in 1990 and 1991, and the top of my head blew up.

1:22:43 What happened in the spring of 1990 after, I'd had a year up to that point where it progressively got more and more tangible that when I was in a room alone, I wasn't alone. Through, what would it be, 1989, it got stronger and stronger until the spring of 1990. I was sitting in a hotel room working for the BBC, a place called the Kensington Hilton just down from Television Centre in London. This presence in the room was so massive and obvious that I sat on the side of the bed and I said, if there's something there, would you please contact me because you'll drive me up the wall. Long story short, within a few days, I found myself in maybe a week, 10 days, I found myself in the front room of a professional psychic. I'd never seen one before.

1:23:38 who goes into psychic mode and says, I'm being told that you're going to go out on a world stage and reveal great secrets. Now, this is 1990. What? The reason I tell that story is because what came through that day, this lady, this entity that I'm seeing is telling me this, is that from this moment, we're going to lead you to knowledge And at other times, we'll put knowledge directly into your mind. And over the last 32 years, that's exactly what has happened. I mean, you know, you would have experienced... Oh, that happens to me all the time, where first I'll feel this really big presence. It happened about six months ago, laying in bed at like 10 at night. I felt the big presence. And then I said, okay, give me the info. And then I woke up the next day and literally knew all the stuff was about to happen again. It was just there.

1:24:32 Yeah, because what's happening is people who go into that mode are tuning in and it's about opening your mind. If you've got a closed mind and you're five cents centric, you're not, you're not going to make it. Well, there's also a free will aspect. Cause you talk about it, call it an angel, what you will. There's this powerful force, you know, it's there. If it's evil, you feel the back of your neck crawl. No, this is just like calm, focus, contentment, uh, completion. And, but then it's like, okay, you want this? Cause it never forces it. Like you want this? Is that what you're describing? Yeah. Um, you know, um, the, the, The challenge for those that tune into this stuff and get this download, it's literally a download, it's like a computer download, is to not be intimidated

1:25:20 into keeping it to yourself because you think, what will people think of me? When I started getting this stuff about this non-human element to all this, and the reptilian element and all that, most people, frankly, would have said, well, hold on a minute, mate. Can you imagine what they're going to say when I come out with this? No way, fella. So the challenge is, look, I'm not interested in a statue and a round of applause. I'm interested in the truth. I'm interested in human freedom from this tyranny. And so if it crosses my line,

1:26:07 in terms of I can justify this to myself and by then I could, I'm coming out with it. The consequences for me of doing that, well, they'll just have to happen because I'm doing it anyway. That's the challenge. And a lot of people will have had these perceptions maybe, and they've kept them to themselves because they fear the consequences of talking about it. David, I got to know more. This is so fascinating. You said you go in your bedroom, you feel this incredible presence, you can't ignore it. It's like you're not having a bad day, a good day. And all of a sudden you walk through and you're like, whoa. It's only happened to me maybe 10 times in my life. It's like, whoa, I really, there's something here.

1:26:46 Okay, and then it's like, do you want this information? That when I was a child, teenager, it happened to some of you since I was an adult. You never know what's going to happen. Usually it's when you're in some quiet place alone. What was the feeling you said was so intense? Well, lots of things happened to me in the early 90s, especially on a mound, a hill in Peru, a place called Ciudad Ustadi in Peru. which was an energetic input, which had me shaking like I was plugged into the mains for about 45 minutes or so.

1:27:22 After that, I knew things and I could see, it's like they say, when you read the newspaper, the truth is between the lines. I started to see what those lines between the lines were. I just saw the world in a different way. It becomes a point where you don't even have to lie on your bed or anything like that, that it becomes a part of you. So it's not that there's some external force communicating with you in the sense that that force is you. You're just recognizing a manifestation of your own interdimensional eternal will. Yes, because it's like

1:28:13 In China, they firewall off the computer system so that Chinese people cannot access most of the internet or the stuff they're not supposed to have. Now, therefore, if they only access what the Chinese fascist government wants them to see, then they'll have a certain perception. But if they got access to the whole internet, this is just an analogy, they would have a vastly more expanded perception of reality and possibility. And that's what happens when you open your mind to expanding levels of consciousness. And by the way, we know this in science, in closing. We know this in science. It's a well-known process. You can speak to it. The 100th monkey syndrome. They found that in other animals and also in humans. You can have monkeys 20 miles away on another island with the same species.

1:29:04 who are taught how to use a rock or whatever to open a fruit. And the other monkeys, same species for thousands of years have never done it, but because somebody showed them how, as soon as they learn somehow sixth sense interdimensionally, because they're on the same frequency as the same species of monkey 20-30 miles away, suddenly those monkeys know how to do it. I mean, that really illustrates that there's this ether out there. Well, yeah, what I call the field, yeah. The five senses, a few things on that, the five senses, if you look at them, they decode what we call form, things. I'm looking around this room and I can see things, computer, a cup, whatever, but

1:29:50 My five senses are only tuned to that frequency, what we call form. Therefore, I perceive reality as form with empty space in between. That's how we all see the world. But there is no empty space in between. There is a field of consciousness, energy, information that We can't see because of the narrow band of our sight senses, but exists and that's what we are interacting with. And this is why this cult wants to dominate the frequency nature of the field. And David, I know that's the case. Take the movie The Island.

1:30:31 which I won't do the whole plot of, but you may have seen it. It's a really good movie from like 15 years ago, where they have these clones of rich people in this underground base. They think they're part of, you know, after a biological war, living in safety. When they finally get to go, they go to the island to be free and, you know, in the outside world. But really, that's when their person that paid for a clone of their body for organ harvesting needs the body part. They think they win a lottery, they're going to the island. They're actually taken and killed, their organs taken. But they find, they have to shut it down. that suddenly it's some type of psychic interface that the humans clone on the outside, even though it's a thousand miles away or ten thousand miles away, starts actually getting the memories and the understanding of their copy. And so the globalists know this, they put it in all the literature of the culture, now it's coming out. Why do they simultaneously tell us what they're doing and how they're doing it while denying it and suppressing it? What's the rule there?

1:31:25 Well, there's two things, really. Like I said earlier, we're at the point now where they're actually doing it in the world of the scene. Therefore, they can't hide it. What they have to do and they've gone into is sales pitch mode, in selling it as a wonderful thing. They can't hide it anymore because if they keep hiding it, it won't become reality in the world that we're living in. Yeah, and this thing about the field is really important. The ancient tribal people, some of which of course still exist in Africa and places, they have this communication system which became known as the bush telegraph, where people out hunting

1:32:15 could have an instinct of what was happening back in the village even though they were nowhere near it. And by the way, this is in mainline studies in Australia with the aborigines that are so psychic and so tied into it that a lot of them work in the mines, in some cases 3,000 miles away. And the mine operators, people have learned, when they say because they're hardworking. I got to leave the mine. I got to go. My mother's sick or my dad just died or my mother was just hit by a car. 100% of the time they're right. That was back before they even had the telephones and stuff to check. Going back 60, 70, 80 years ago when they said something was happening to their family, they were always right. The Bush telegraph. Yeah. And just a simple example.

1:32:55 The number of people I've met over the years, my brothers had this experience a few times, where they say, I just had this amazing experience. I was thinking of somebody and I hadn't seen him for ages, but I suddenly started thinking of him. And then the bloody phone rang and guess who it was? It was them. Well, I mean, that's extraordinary, isn't it? No, because when you were thinking of them, they were thinking of you because they were about to ring you. And so the frequency that they give off as they're thinking of you, and their attention is thinking of you, therefore it's possible to tune into your energy field because that's who they're thinking of. And David, I've got a perfect example of this. My son Rex wanted to work on my family ranch for the last year. He's been gone most of the time after high school. He wanted to take a year off and work as a farmer. And about two years ago,

1:33:56 He wanted to borrow a sports watch that I had, not a very expensive watch, just a regular watch. And he's moved back to town the last month doing a bunch of stuff. And he came by the house the other morning. We were going to go on a hike before I had to go into work. It's like 6 30 in the morning. He shows up, he walks in. And I just had this feeling. I never do this stuff, but I wanted to show him how real the sixth sense is. And I said, I know you brought me my watch back. And he literally like turned white sort of gulping and gasping. He says, how did you know that? I hadn't asked for it in years. I never asked for it back. He said, I've got the watch right here. I was bringing it to you this morning. And I just had him on there to say that, but I've learned now when I know stuff's going on, I go ahead and tell people because it's never wrong. I knew that my son had brought me my watch because I was psychically picking it up.

1:34:46 Yeah, and this is happening all the time. What people call the paranormal is actually the perfectly bloody normal, but they call it the paranormal because they don't want us to think that's normal. They want us to think their normal is normal, i.e., five sense reality. That's what it's all about. I'll give you an example, Alex, of just how illusory reality is. Now, what I'm saying in my books, what I say in The Trap, the new one, is, and I have been writing this now for 20, 25 years, is that this world only exists as we perceive it in here.

1:35:29 And in here, needs more explanation as well, but let's just keep it simple. Because the reality, the matrix is actually an information field. Think Wi-Fi. So the information of the matrix that we're interacting with, decoding, is like a Wi-Fi field. And this is the thing, this technological world that's unfolding is actually mimicking the world that we're experiencing as what we think is the real world. And they admit that. Google and all of them say they're building an artificial version of what they already know is there. Yeah. And so how did the five senses work? They pick up

1:36:12 Frequency information, vibrational information, that's what the five senses do, whether it's taste or sight or anything, the classic is the ears. Because I'm talking to you now, but words are not passing between us. What's passing between us is a frequency field. My vocal cords are vibrating a frequency field. the ears pick up that frequency field. This is mainstream science, by the way. Pick up that frequency field and they turn it into an electrical signal. And that electrical signal goes to the brain, which then decodes that information, now in an electrical form, into a holographic, a digital holographic reality, which exists only in here,

1:37:04 But actually, we perceive it as being outside of us. So what is happening is we are decoding information in this simulation field into a perceived reality. And this is how computers work. It's like I say, the technological world of today is mimicking the reality we're experiencing. So if there's a Wi-Fi field where I'm here, then the computer decodes that Wi-Fi field or the part of it that I program it to decode at any point, and it puts on the screen that Wi-Fi field information in a completely different form

1:37:52 to what it is in the Wi-Fi field. Well, let's just expand and finish on that. This has been a riveting interview, but I don't want to abuse your time. Is it that they're trying to suppress our natural ability? Is our ability getting stronger? I feel like we're breaking out of it and we're seeing more connection to the psychic, more connection to the field, and that there's almost a human, natural, spiritual, energetic rebellion to this suppression, and that some of us are going to call it transcend faster while others are going to fall to this control. I mean, is there a dividing of the wheat from the chaff or what are they trying to suppress? What's happening, Alex, is the division is those who are going deeper into the program and those who are awakening from the program. And as you open your mind and escape the program, the perceptual program,

1:38:48 That's when people watching this who've been through this process, and it's vast now globally, they'll start to become more what we call psychic. They will start to suddenly have insights. They'll notice the synchronicity in their life. Well, that's what I've noticed. The more I go with it, and I'm not ashamed of it, the stronger it gets. It was already there. I'm just opening those channels up more and becoming more focused on them. Exactly, that's how it works. And you can see now, Alex, why the whole foundation of this conspiracy is holding people in five cents myopia. Because when you do that, and what it is, it's a focus of attention.

1:39:30 Can I see it, touch it, taste it, hear it? Oh, it exists then, or if I can't, then it doesn't. That mentality, which what? Dominates science, dominates medicine, dominates academia, dominates the media, dominates government, all of them. And when you break out of that, then you start to access levels of awareness, insight, knowledge. Another psychopath on the screen I see. But yeah, but what you're showing here, Alex, is absolutely what is happening. Symbolically, yes, in this case, but absolutely happening. Imagine if you come out of the womb with a headset on,

1:40:10 And you go through your entire life and out the other end with the same headset on, and that headset is feeding you a version of reality, i.e. the simulation. You will go through your entire life believing that the reality you're being fed is reality, true reality. And you see when people put their headsets on, maybe in an empty room, how suddenly, because of the information they're receiving, they thrash around as if it's real. Now, what is that headset doing? And the gloves they put on and the audio they put on in these virtual reality games, it's hijacking and overriding

1:40:53 The five sense system of decoding reality that we normally have. The sight senses will be influenced in terms of sense of reality by what's going into the eyes with the mass thing. The feel of the gloves will give you the touch senses and will hack, it's literally hacking into the five senses. That's what these virtual reality games are doing. You will believe if you have a headset on your entire life, that what it's feeding you is real. That's the human plight. If you take the headset off, and that's basically what happens when you start to expand your awareness, you start to see what you couldn't see before because you are now overriding

1:41:38 the information that's being fed symbolically. That's right. These are brain and body acts. We know all the big companies, all the intelligence agencies are obsessed with it for decades. They're now rolling out from beta to operational. David, incredible interview. Only meant to have you an hour. Thanks for spending so much time with us on Saturday. In closing, I haven't read your new book yet. I've read almost all the other books. They're all incredible. They're all different. I love the cover of this new one. Tell us a little bit about The Trap. Well, The Trap Crikey. You got another hour, Alex, have you? Very simply, I wanted to, I mean, I go into all the 5 cent stuff in the book and update all that to what's happening now. There's a large chunk of the second half of the book where I look at reality and I ask the question, okay, if this is a simulation, I believe it is, then

1:42:35 where does the simulation end? My question was this, when consciousness leaves the body at the end of a human life, why the hell does it come back? If it's had an horrific experience, why does it come back? Why is that? I started to look at what people call the spirit world. I was reading accounts of You know, people take people into regression. And some people go, they take them into what they call the between life state. A lot of these regressions are you were Napoleon in a previous life or something. But these specifically, the between life state, what's the memory there? And the common themes are extraordinary. And when I

1:43:31 looked at this, I thought, this is another fricking hierarchy. This is another trap. And a lot of things started to happen. A lot of information synchronistically started coming into my life at the same time. That kind of showed me that what we call reincarnation is real, but it's a trap. So, you know, you leave the body and you're supposed to go through this bloody tunnel or whatever, and all that.

1:44:10 Then you come back, and I looked at the Eastern religious and Buddhist version of all this. I thought, well, what they're saying is that you have to keep coming into this world over and over again and having different experiences to learn lessons and reach a point of what they call enlightenment, high frequency, perception, to break the cycle and get out of here. I thought, okay, well, let's have a look at that. If you look at the projection of mainstream science of the size of this planet, compared with the perceived size of what they call the universe, it is the equivalent of a billionth of a pinhead

1:45:01 So I'm thinking, okay, let's follow this through. You have to keep reincarnating onto a billionth of a pinhead to learn lessons so that you reach a point of enlightenment where you don't have to keep reincarnating onto a billionth of a pinhead. Well, that makes no bloody sense to me at all, none. But then I thought, well, hold on a second. If this simulation is not only this trap is not only the level we experience it in the human world, but actually, when you leave the body, it's still a trap. It's still the simulation, it's just a different level of it. Then you can then start to understand

1:45:45 that you're not actually reincarnating onto a billionth of a pinhead planet. You are in a simulation, think more advanced version of the Metaverse, where you are just going in and out of different levels, this level and different levels of the of the simulation. You look again at ancient cultures, and you look at an old esoteric concept of what they call the ring pass knot. The ring pass knot is a, it's like you could symbolize it as a bubble, the outer shell of a bubble. It's a frequency trap

1:46:27 And before consciousness can get out of the multi-level matrix, the reincarnation matrix, into prime reality and infinity, you have to reach a certain vibrational frequency state to get through that. And so now they're creating here on the earth a trap within a trap within a trap to keep us from figuring out we're in a trap. Exactly, exactly what they're doing. Again, you can look at the Christian view, which is there is no such thing as reincarnation. If you believe in it, then you're this, that, and the other. Some of them believe. It's about, well, let's just take a breath here. Reincarnation is not a creation of what people call God in that sense.

1:47:17 It's a creation of a very negative force, this trap, this cycle, literally recycling consciousness. That's captured our soul in a form of purgatory hell. Yeah, yeah. So... Well, undoubtedly, if this is purgatory, which I believe basically is the best concept for it, there's another level, obviously, that we could be sucked into even worse, which people could call hell. Because these creatures that act like this, that sounds like hell to me. Well, this lower level of this astral dimension is what they call hell. And the Gnostics who wrote about this stuff all that time ago... Well, to me, this doesn't discredit the Christian system. It just means men are manipulating it. It actually makes perfect sense as someone who, you know, I'll call myself a Christian. This makes perfect sense what you're saying. Yeah, I mean, the point is, Alex, that what I would say to everyone who follows a religion

1:48:08 is we can see a fraction of 0.005% of what is supposed to exist in this universe. A single book within that frequency band is not going to give us all the answers. It might give us some, there's a lot of truth in the Bible, there's a lot of truth in a lot of religious books and this stuff that I don't go with. The point is, if we just relax a bit, And don't say, if you don't believe this, you're a blasphemer. You don't believe this, you're this, that and the other. And just say, well, let's just talk to each other. Because actually, we're probably not a million miles from each other. So is there a force that Christians call God? A benevolent force, all that is force? I say there is. And I say it's a consciousness. It's a form of consciousness.

1:49:06 But is there also reincarnation between different levels of this simulation within that infinity? Well, I say yes, there absolutely is. Well, I mean, take epigenetics. That's another form. There's multi forms of consciousness where we know we have instincts that are passed on that are literally memories. I mean, they've done studies with 20 generations, as you know, of chickens raised inside a facility inside a five-story building is one of the studies that was done back in the seventies. It went on for more than 20 years and the chickens were raised generation, regeneration, regeneration, regeneration, that never saw a hawk, never saw a weasel. And they could project with a projector on the roof a triangle or a square and the animals weren't scared of it, didn't run into the coop. But when they would project the image of a hawk and put a hawk scream on it, they would all run into the coop knowing what it was. And so the thing was they had instincts, though they'd never seen a hawk for 20 generations, they knew what it was. So that is

1:50:03 you could call that reincarnation of information. Take our genetics, like this body suit, this earth suit, how do you square that? We're manifesting in these bodies and we're spiritual beings, I agree with you, it's true, but we look like our fathers and mothers and carry that genetic line as well. How do you integrate those? Because I had a vision... Yeah, it can be very simply and what you've just described can be described very simply. And that's the understanding that the body is the vehicle. Consciousness, the true I, is what is experiencing this reality briefly through the vehicle. So the vehicle is the way that we interact with the simulation. Thus, if you think of it as a software program,

1:50:56 Because that's how the cult see it, as a software program. That's why people like Moderna talk about the fake vaccine as an operating system. They know how this works. They just don't want us to know. It's the passing on of the software program through procreation passes on these instincts. This is why a duck acts like a duck, an elephant acts like an elephant, and a duck doesn't act like an elephant. It's because these software programs, information, is passed on through the species generations. What consciousness is doing is coming in to the vehicle, well,

1:51:45 It's much more than that, as I say, the body's in the mind, not the mind in the body. But the theme is the same. It's coming in to experience... Let me add this point to you. For me and what I've, in my own understanding, for my own, this is not any books, not any religions, not any systems. I haven't gotten a lot of it because it's really amazing and very complex and trying to understand it. It's nothing anybody's ever seen that I've seen in books or literature, but I know it to be true. There are spiritual families and groups that are also coming into this dimension into certain bloodlines. And just like there's evil bloodlines, there's good bloodlines, and the enemy knows that.

1:52:26 Yeah, there's groups. What's happening now, and has been happening for some time, I've written about this in the books in the past, is that there is a massive effort going on now to turn all this around. People say to me, what chance have we got? I say, well, if you're talking about the five cents world alone, we've got no fricking chance. But if you're talking about the wider world of consciousness and expanded consciousness that is working to transform this, well, we've got every bloody chance. I totally agree. So let me ask you this, because I don't mean to interrupt, but just fascinating answers here. I asked this before, you elaborated a little bit, but just this is so important. Why are so many powerful leaders against this

1:53:23 over the centuries coming out of what we would call the United Kingdom today, Ireland, Scotland, England. And let's say it, the most prominent people fighting the New World Order, you're real, I'm real, in the world also go back to that. I've got a big Welsh background, I know you're English. Why is so much coming out of the UK? Is it the energetic ley lines? Why is there so much evil and so much good happening there? Why are our bad bloodlines and good bloodlines emanating out of there? Well, it's funny, actually, you mentioned that because I just completed a film which is going to be on Iconic before Christmas called Albion, Heart of the World. It's about why these tiny islands that you can hardly see on the bloody globe have had such an impact on the world, literally, globally, and the empire on which they set the sun

1:54:17 never said. But in terms of the bloodlines, what you call the good and the bad bloodlines, and these bloodlines of the cult, these interbreeding bloodlines, which for a long time, and still a few today, but for a long time took the expression of royalty, interbreeding royalty, interbreeding aristocracy. The point is, yes and absolutely, Charlie Boy, the mate of of Jimmy Savile, and has an ancestor of Vlad the Impaler, who was one of the great Satanist mass bloodthirsty killers that ever lived. He has property in Transylvania as well, jolly boy. They're in your face. What happened is when the people rejected in your face royalty in many, many, many, many countries around the world,

1:55:14 These bloodlines simply went into another form, into the dark superfices of politics and banking and business and all the rest of it. Now, I talked earlier, Alex, about the fact that the plan is to create human 2.0 as in casts, in genetic casts, which have different abilities. The worker cast has the ability to do its job and serve as a slave, and they have other genetic states, thus other abilities to process information. Now, the reason that these bloodlines, which are hybrids, they're part human and part non-human,

1:55:59 They're hybrid, they're a hybrid field, which means they're part one, part the other. Part human, part reptilian, part human, part other forms of non-human. The reason that they incessantly have interbred over the years and still do, not so overtly as royalty, but the Eastern establishment families of the United States and the aristocracy and the the various groupings around the world, they still interbreed obsessively. Why? Because they are seeking to retain a software program, a genetic software program, which if they interbred with the rest of the population, that program would quickly be diluted.

1:56:52 This program, this genetic program of the bloodline, say the blue bloods, allows them to process information in a more expansive way than the general population. It's part of their power system. And thus, as we have a certain a serious limit in what we could see through visible light, their visual acuity and their other senses are wider. They can see further into this field than the human population. Therefore, they can see things that we can't see. I'm talking the Rothschilds, I'm talking the Rockefellers, I'm talking all these different people.

1:57:40 that are in the upper levels, not the highest level, but the upper levels of this cult. They are seeking to hold that software program, a genetic software program that allows them to do that. by incessantly interbreeding with each other. You'll have an interbreeding marriage between Charles and Diana when he really wanted to be with this other lady he's married to now, but the genetic program demanded that he interbred with

1:58:16 Diana and this is what's going all the time. This is why you have all these official marriages of royalty and other of the absolutely what you expect to happen last question We're gonna end it here and I appreciate your time David I comm the new book, of course the trap David. How do you What do you expect to see happen with King Charles III? Absolutely evil, Jimmy Surveil, we know the whole background, Jeffrey Epstein, all of it. Now that he's on the throne, he gave this speech six months ago declaring global war on humanity, a military operation to cut the carbon that'll depopulate. What do you expect to see now with King Charles III?

1:58:55 Well, first of all, he's not going to be for very long able to hold himself back and enter the arena, which royalty is not supposed to do, of pushing political agendas. He's obviously, absolutely handing glove with the World Economic Forum and Schwab. This is what I've been saying, Alex, now for a couple of years, and that is that Royalty, overt royalty like that. has served this cult magnificently over the centuries, because it's a wonderful way of imposing power simply by bloodline inheritance. You don't have to persuade the population to vote for someone, they're the leaders. There came a point, of course, as I mentioned earlier, where the population grew up enough to say we're not having that anymore. Well, of course, they still have it in Britain and

1:59:53 the Commonwealth, but overwhelmingly, they rejected it. The royal family in Britain and the Commonwealth has served this cult magnificently. Why? Because it's part of it, it's part of the bloodlines. These people are Satanists, like the Queen and the Queen Mother and Prince Philip, all these people. I exposed all this while they were all still alive. You have this great reset now, which is a great reset of the entire global system. For me, this great reset new system does not require any longer what we call royalty because it's going to centrally control from the global center, and it's going to do it through AI. I said a couple of years ago that

2:00:47 When the Queen and Prince Philip died, particularly the Queen, then the process of with dismantling royalty would begin. Of course, they're going to use Charles profusely for a while to push this agenda. But when you look at the royal family in Britain now, there's him and then his son William, and then you're going down to William's little boy. There's not a lot left, especially with Harry and Meghan Markle firing Exocet missiles across the Atlantic.

2:01:31 And so I do see royalty being phased out. And this is one reason for it. When you target Western society, which is what they're doing, they want to dismantle, completely dismantle Western society. That's why the Southern border of the United States is wider. Even though the royalty isn't Western civilization, it's still a symbol of that, so they have to take it away. Yeah, exactly. So let's look at this, okay? You want to dismantle Western civilization. So the first thing you look at is what's the dominant racial group of Western civilization? It's the white race. So you target that. That's why we've had this unbelievable racist targeting.

2:02:16 of white people, because if the dominant race of the Western society, which they want to dismantle was the black race or the brown race or whatever, they'd be targeting that in the same way. But it isn't, it's the white race through historical reasons. So they're targeting that. Then you look at Christianity. Now, for historical reasons, whether you're a Christian or not, For historical reasons, not least in Europe, America, or all over the Western world, that has become weaved into the fabric of Western society. Whether you're a Christian or not, there it is. There's churches everywhere. We have an Archbishop of Canterbury. We have the monarch of Britain as the head of the church and all that stuff. We're weaved.

2:03:10 And so if you want to pull the cards out of the house of cards of Western society, you pull them out of the white race, and you pull them out of Christianity for historical reasons. I mean, Europe is massively historically founded, therefore still, on the weaving in its institutions, et cetera, of Christianity. And then you look in Britain and the Commonwealth at at the royal family. We don't have, Alex, a British government. We have her, now his, majesty's government. We don't have an opposition party in Britain. We have her, his majesty's most loyal opposition. That's what it's called. We have her majesty's, now his majesty's,

2:04:03 border control, passport control, treasury. You take royalty out of British society and the whole thing has to be reset. You look around the Commonwealth, Canada, Australia, who's the head of state? The monarch of Britain, stunningly in 2022. So that has to be all reset. once royalty falls and ceases to be what it is now. Now, I'm not saying that's going to happen tomorrow, but I'm saying it's part of the Great Reset. Oh, I totally agree. And what you're doing is the 35,000-foot view, that it's not that royalty is good,

2:04:46 but it's seen as British establishment and culture even though it's not. So a lot of people see the left attacking royalty and think, oh, it must be good. Like Paul Joseph Watson's a great guy, smart guy, but he believes that. And it's the Stockholm syndrome in my view. Obviously, it's terrible, it's horrible, they're not even British. They're not Scottish, they're not Irish. Since King George I 300 years ago, it's been this basically Eastern European, Transylvanian, bizarre bloodline. And I keep saying final question, but you've done deep research. We know it goes back to Vlad the Impaler. Prince Charles mainly, he says, lives more time than in the UK in Transylvania. I guess now that he's not the king or is the king, he'll try to move back. But he's in all these documentaries admitting he lives in Dracula's own castle. I mean, it's beyond bizarre.

2:05:31 But who are these people really? Because they're not even German. They call them German royalty, but they're not. They're not the Tudors. They're not the Stuarts. They're not really related to William the Conqueror, because England's been run by a bunch of other people. But who are they? Who is the House of the Dragon? What they are, Alex, is they are expressions of quite obvious ones if you look at it, of this hybrid human, non-human bloodline. What was interesting at the Queen's funeral is all the royalty turns up from around the bloody world. That's what's left almost all of it in Europe.

2:06:15 And they were saying, oh, well, this royalty from, I don't know, Denmark or somewhere, or this royalty from here, royalty from there, this is this cousin of the queen, this is this cousin of the queen. They're all the same bloody bloodline, these people. And they were used for a long time to control everything. And like I say, until the people rejected that rule in most of the world. When royalty is dismantled, the people we call royal who are this bloodline, they'll just go and serve the cult in other ways. It's just that the institution will fall because of this great reset of everything that currently exists in terms of

2:07:04 top-down human control. There's no reason for it anymore because the control will come from the global center and there'll be no need for these satellites. That's right, out with the oil roadbloodlines, in with the AI. Who will the new super rulers of the planet be or will the archons publicly present themselves? Well, who the rulers will be is us. Because we are going to bring this nonsense to an end. It may not seem like it. It may not seem like it sometimes when you look around. But you know, as I know, what it was like. I remember what it was like in 1990, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95 and onwards. You were a true voice in the wilderness and now you've been vindicated. In terms of public interest in any of this stuff,

2:06:15 And they were saying, oh, well, this royalty from, I don't know, Denmark or somewhere, or this royalty from here, royalty from there, this is this cousin of the queen, this is this cousin of the queen. They're all the same bloody bloodline, these people. And they were used for a long time to control everything. And like I say, until the people rejected that rule in most of the world. When royalty is dismantled, the people we call royal who are this bloodline, they'll just go and serve the cult in other ways. It's just that the institution will fall because of this great reset of everything that currently exists in terms of

2:07:04 top-down human control. There's no reason for it anymore because the control will come from the global center and there'll be no need for these satellites. That's right, out with the oil roadbloodlines, in with the AI. Who will the new super rulers of the planet be or will the archons publicly present themselves? Well, who the rulers will be is us. Because we are going to bring this nonsense to an end. It may not seem like it. It may not seem like it sometimes when you look around. But you know, as I know, what it was like. I remember what it was like in 1990, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95 and onwards. You were a true voice in the wilderness and now you've been vindicated. In terms of public interest in any of this stuff,

2:07:59 Trying to get anyone to listen was a real struggle. I went around America, I talked to eight people just outside Chicago. I talked to five people in someone's front room in New England. Now, the challenge is not finding people who want to listen to this, it's finding the time to meet the interest, as you know. Although anyone who's come to this relatively recently will be saying, why aren't people waking up faster? Well, they should have been with me in 1990, 1991, 1992, and they've realized actually what's happening now.

2:08:42 is a fantastic awakening to another reality that's been going on all around people, but now they're seeing it. Exactly. Okay, I've said 10 times final question, but I have a selfish question. Before we went on air, you were asking me as well. I really respect you, David, and love you. And if anybody out there, I call my guru, it's you. I mean, you really taught me more than anybody out there other than maybe my own life experiences, my family, and my own research. But you're an icon in this. What do you think I should do? Because there's this giant synthetic attack on me. I'm not stupid. I know I'm not that important at the end of the day. Thousands of articles a day, every local TV station in the country, every cable, foreign news, hundreds of shows a week.

2:07:59 Trying to get anyone to listen was a real struggle. I went around America, I talked to eight people just outside Chicago. I talked to five people in someone's front room in New England. Now, the challenge is not finding people who want to listen to this, it's finding the time to meet the interest, as you know. Although anyone who's come to this relatively recently will be saying, why aren't people waking up faster? Well, they should have been with me in 1990, 1991, 1992, and they've realized actually what's happening now.

2:08:42 is a fantastic awakening to another reality that's been going on all around people, but now they're seeing it. Exactly. Okay, I've said 10 times final question, but I have a selfish question. Before we went on air, you were asking me as well. I really respect you, David, and love you. And if anybody out there, I call my guru, it's you. I mean, you really taught me more than anybody out there other than maybe my own life experiences, my family, and my own research. But you're an icon in this. What do you think I should do? Because there's this giant synthetic attack on me. I'm not stupid. I know I'm not that important at the end of the day. Thousands of articles a day, every local TV station in the country, every cable, foreign news, hundreds of shows a week.

2:09:27 They put out more propaganda against me than even Trump many days. I mean, I can walk into a restaurant, a bar, I'm on the TV with all these lies, misrepresenting who I am, what I did off questioning a mass shooting. People don't know who Adam Lands is, they know who I am. Why do you think they're so obsessed and what is this project they're involved in? Because I can tell you, I'm not getting orders from the CIA. I'm independent, I'm real. And then I look at this massive assault, this is More propaganda they had before they invaded Iraq sure that was six months of propaganda in 1990 six months of propaganda 2003 But we've had folks do the numbers. They've put out more propaganda in five years against me than before they invaded Iraq What is that? What is going on here? There is an obsession I know you've been under attack as well, but I don't think I'm even not articulate or that good. I don't even know

2:10:17 They are obsessed with me. And when I get around these globalists, they shake and physically can't even control themselves. They hate me so much. What do you think's going on there? Well, there's a few things. First of all, I said decades ago that the plan was that eventually no one would ever see or hear anything that wasn't approved by the authorities, the cult in other words. That's where we're heading. It's a progression and that's why they started demonetizing alternative media sources. Then they started to try to undermine their ability to research full time. Then they started outright censoring them. It's happened to me, it's happened to you. Because they're terrified of people knowing the truth because when people realize that

2:11:13 the truth of what's going on in big enough numbers, then it's over for them. They're targeting as fast as possible, every source of information and every person who's putting this out to silence them. Yeah, but I'd say, yeah, they're targeting you because of what you put out and not only what you put out, but what in America particularly you symbolize, which is the information alerting people to actually what events really mean as opposed to what we told they mean. But I would just say this, mate, I have been

2:12:13 There have been a number of attempts to take me out financially and in other ways over the years, but when I look back, there is a force that is there to work through and help anyone who will open their minds to connect with it, and then have the guts to go with what that force is encouraging us to do, which is to put this stuff out no matter what happens. In fact, I should have added, the attack on you in 91, 92, whenever they did that was on every channel everywhere for a year straight. The ridicule, what I'm going through now, you went through decades ago. So I think that's why I'm asking you exactly, if I just persevere and I'm strong and just trust, we're gonna win in the end.

2:13:10 Yeah, that's the reason I raised that. If you connect with this and go with it, and don't run around defending yourself, but just keep saying what you are putting out. It's what I've done. I've never stopped and said, oh, you can't say those things about me. I've just said, well, have some more, have some more, have some more. When I look back, Alex, It's hard for most people to comprehend it, didn't see it. I was subject in 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 and onwards to unprecedented historic levels of ridicule, mass ridicule. I couldn't walk down any street in Britain without being laughed at constantly by the people in the street. Going into a bar or pub, forget it, there was uproar.

2:14:08 And I would turn on the television and a comedian only had to say my name to get a laugh. It didn't need a joke. But what I did at that time amid that absolutely mass ridicule, it was extraordinary in its scale and its viciousness. I went on a tour, speaking tour of British universities Can you imagine amid all that ridicule, you walk out on a stage in front of thousands of students? And of course, they all came to see me for one reason. They came to see me because they wanted to ridicule and have a laugh. And that's what they did. And I remember one night, I'm speaking, it was at a university, I think it was a polytechnic, that is a university now, in Nottingham. And I walked out on the stage.

2:15:06 And there was uproar. I hadn't said a word, but there was just screaming and abuse and all that stuff. There were glasses, not glasses, but paper cups being... Paper, you know, sorry, plastic glasses, you know, being thrown at the stage. They were pillorying you. Yeah, and I let it die down until it went quiet, because they got bored. And I said, you think I'm mentally ill, don't you? And they're, oh yeah, hey! And I said, well, what does that say about you? You paid to come here tonight to ridicule someone you think is mentally ill. What does that say about you? Silence. And silence for the rest of the night. Because what people need to realize is when they think they're making a statement about someone else, maybe it's me, maybe it's you,

2:16:02 they're making a statement about themselves, not the person they think they're making a statement about. They're revealing their true self. Where I'm going to go with this is this. If you had seen what I went through in the 90s, you would have said, that guy's finished, done, gone. The media in this country, they thought they'd left another corpse. in the gutter, finished him, they'll never see him again. And I got up and I started walking and then started running and then I started sprinting.

2:16:43 Now, the interest in my work globally is absolutely fantastic from that start. Whatever they're doing to you now, Alex, you keep going, you'll find a way. You'll find a way because this energetic guidance will manifest ways in which you will get through this. I can feel it, I can see it, I've experienced it. David Icke, incredible, the new book, The Trap. And I got to say this, I've known you, I've been interviewing you for 25 years, been on Air 28, very blessed to know you. And you always seem strong and really informed and powerful. But to me, just at a distance,

2:17:28 It seems like you've become even more authoritative, more piercing, stronger. And I just hope you live, I know you understand we live, you know, we're eternal beings, but I hope you're here for another 30, 40 years, David, because I want to win this thing and see humanity turn the corner and be there with you. And I can't wait to see you in person again. It's been years since I saw you outside London covering Bilderberg. But what has the transformation in closing been like for you? I mean, because you seem stronger than ever. Well, that's what happens because it's all an illusion. Aging is an illusion. It's a program. What I was saying earlier about the body software program, yeah, if you are in a state of basically non-consciousness, you're a five-sense centric person, the software program is running your life. It's making the decisions. It's governing your behavior. You're following the cycle of aging, which is in the software program.

2:18:25 But if you become conscious beyond this world, beyond the five senses, a more expanded state of consciousness, that consciousness can override the software program of the body. So you stay healthy, you stay strong, you get stronger the more that consciousness imposes itself on the body and overrides the software program. We are the power And what's happened is we're in two worlds. We've got the world of the cult, which is the secret society network globally, and we've got the world of the population. And the reason the secret society network is secret is to keep secrets from the population. So information knowledge is passed over through the upper levels of the secret society network that's kept from the population. And fundamentally, it's who we are.

2:19:21 what this reality is, how we interact with it, how it affects us, how we affect that. They don't want us to know any of that. They don't want us to know that we are actually consciousness. And the fact is, when you tap into expanded levels of consciousness, you go way beyond this level of consciousness. This level of consciousness is the village idiot. compared with the potential of human consciousness, human awareness. So what they've done is they've set up a human society that limits access to knowledge and information. That's why the Rockefellers created the education system or what's called education system in America. They hoard this knowledge. And they have this symbol, the all-seeing eye.

2:20:10 And that is so appropriate because it comes from this phrase, in the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king. This cult, these morons, these psychopaths, these pathetic people, they are the one-eyed man. And what they've done through control of society and the way they've structured it and the suppression of information is they've made humans blind. But when humans awaken to the two-eyed, third-eyed human, we bring an end to this. Because they are the village idiot compared with the human.

2:20:59 the potential of human consciousness. All we need to do is open our minds from the program and see that there are endless other ways to understand this world that they don't want us to know. It's a perceptual game. If they can control our perception, they control us. Well, solve that for a game of soldiers. I'll have my own mind, thank you, and I'll control it, not that bunch of prats. David, thank you so much for the time and your amazing energy and focus. The new book, The Trap, davideike.com. Have a great rest of Saturday evening and I look forward to speaking to you again soon. I hope to shake your hand in person sometime, but thank you so much, David Eich. It's always a pleasure, Alex. Thanks, mate. Each interview we do just gets better. I'm going to come back with some final words and that's it for this Saturday emergency broadcast. We'll be airing it on my show during the week. Gotta love David Eich, ladies and gentlemen. We'll be right back. Stay with us.

2:24:27 of the plaintiff's lawyers, Democratic Party operatives in Texas and Connecticut saying, we want Alex Jones off the air. We want to take his speech away. I could be a convicted murderer, I still have speech. But these anti-American dirtbags using the deaths of children, they believe they can use as a pretext. I didn't kill those kids at Sandy Hook. Of course I questioned it. From day one, Obama came in, made it political, used their dead bodies to blame American gun owners, and I did question it. And I apologize to the parents if I hurt their feelings, but then I see the parents and their political tools now with these different charities and money-making operations.

2:25:09 and 73 million from Remington, and they have the nerve to say, I'm making money off Sandy Hook. My listeners don't want to hear about Sandy Hook. I don't want to hear about Sandy Hook. I want to fight the inflation and the open borders and the devalued currencies and the fentanyl and the New World Order. I want to battle the New World Order. I want to promote God and country and family. but I can't do it without your support. So thank you over the years for what you've done, but we're the tip of the spear. They don't run thousands of news articles a week and hundreds of TV shows literally a week. It's more than that. Every local TV station in the country attacks me every day. That's thousands a day.

2:25:47 They are so scared of populism. They are so scared of you and their hatred of you and your family, their hatred of your free speech, their hatred of your love of God is telegraphed through me. They see me as you because I am a populist. I am pro-family, pro-liberty, pro-success, pro-capitalism, just like you. So break their will, stop them, annihilate them, in their face, keep us on air in this most important fight. Because here's the deal, I get two years of appeals as soon as this trial ends and one more in Texas. Super expensive, out of control, you name it. Then we got two years.