2:33:54 I know we've delivered here at Infowars, and listeners are backing us, but listen, back us all the way folks. We're delivering. These dogs hunt. That's Michael Cargill, Alex Jones, we hunt. We'll be right back. You want victory? You're tuning into the right channel. and my old friend Michael Cargill with the most consequential second amendment pro-segment ruling of the 21st century. In the last 22 years he is here. Brother I got a lot to say but I'm gonna just shut up and give you the floor. You got so much to talk about. This is huge. I love how you're forward thinking. You don't want to talk about your last victory. You're moved on to your other lawsuits. But I was asked here in the break, where's the NRA? They didn't file any of these things. They're taking credit for what you did, raising hundreds of millions of dollars. I'm not a tag of the NRA, but if Michael Cargill, he's had a bunch of other victories. He's had all these victories.
2:34:43 Why don't we make you, Ted Nugent's on the board. I love Ted, he's a great guy. We should get rid of Wayne LaPierre and put you in there. It would be nice because what's happening is a lot of people are standing up and saying they did a lot, you know, but this case, if you look at the case, it just says Michael Cargill versus everyone else. There's no one else standing there. So, you know, we're going to continue on this fight. And this is not just for me. This is about the entire country. This is about, you know, every state, all 50 states, not just Texas. But unfortunately, this case is it, we beat it in the Fifth Circuit. So now what we need to happen is we need this case to go to Supreme Court. So what's going on is
2:35:25 it we won the fifth circuit so that means that texas louisiana mississippi if for some reason the government does not appeal or ask for a stay um they don't appeal to the supreme court then that means that texas louisiana mississippi will get their bump stocks back but if they If the appeal is actually accepted in the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court takes up this case, they hear this case, they throw it back down, we get our bump stocks in Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi. But if they take the case, hear the case, rule on the case, that would be the land of the law for all 50 states. And that's what we need to happen. We need this. So you need some backing right now by the NRA? Right now, I need everyone's help. We need this case to go to Supreme Court. Why, you want us to back a winner? That's right. Because the Supreme Court, this court right now that we have is the court for us. This is the court that's going to help us with all our Second Amendment issues and we can get everything wrapped up right now within the next two years. And I think we need to make it happen. And you explained this early on, but explain.
2:36:25 This doing things outside of law since they got away with this so far till you stopped them. They're doing it everywhere. This is the big fight. It's extrajudicial rules by them. Right. And it goes everywhere. There's a whole Republican thing about blocking laws. If the ATF just does stuff without law... without being checked, you know, they'll do whatever they want to do. And that's what they're doing. They're going, you know, let's try to squeeze this in. Let's do this. You know, let's take an inch and then grab a mile or whatever. And we're saying, no, you got to stop. You know, and we need to stand up and stand together. They need to support you, Alex, support us so we can move forward and get these cases. Sam Ryan. So how do we support you? a
2:37:22 You're not just successful because you're smart and caring and involved. You are positive and you don't quit. You enjoy what you're doing. I love it. I love it. I have people that travel around the country. People ask, how do you do this, Alex? And I love it. Yes, I love it. I love it. There's nothing like Texas. There's nothing like the United States. There's no other country that's better than this country. We want to make it better and continue to keep it strong and make sure that everyone in the world know that if they come to the United States, we are here to defend them. So give us that fundraiser right now. If folks don't bet on a winner, they deserve to be slaves. That's right. Go to our Gun Fund. GoFundMe page. It should be on the screen right now. Check that out. Please help us out. Donate it. We just start that page just today, just a few hours ago. So let's go there. Let's donate. We need to get this momentum going. Keep it going. I don't want to stop right now because we're on the cusp of getting everything that we need. I don't know about a winner that's proven. I just I'm going to roll over.
2:38:17 But continuing with what this rulemaking means outside of law. Right. So what this means is we stopped the ATF from going after AR triggers. We stopped them from going after SIG braces and other braces. You have companies like R.W. Arms. They actually had to destroy Alex. Twenty million dollars worth of bump stocks. Twenty million dollars. Well, they called me up this week and I said, Mike, your lawsuit helps our case. because of my lawsuit, they're going to get their $20 million back. You know, so they better carve off some to support you. Right. So it's going to help them. It's going to help rare breed triggers. Another company is being attacked by the ATF. They're going after them. I got a call from the guy that rare breed triggers. He said, Mike, your case is going to help us. And I said, yes. So let's keep this. But why didn't you why didn't you do what you're doing?
2:39:14 So you're standing up for everybody right now. Yes, everyone. This is not just for me, for everybody. So and we're doing good. So we'll continue. Loving I'm loving the the positive attitude. But like I said, we are going to need the support as well. So we need to continue to move forward. There's a lot of stuff. There's so many different things. The ATF. is you know they're shutting down gun stores and federal firearms licensed dealers around the country. You have small mom and pop gun stores that started their business with their life savings and just because someone walked into the store, filled out the form and there's a spot on the form where you're supposed to put county instead of putting the county, they put United States, the US.
2:39:58 And because of that little mistake on the form, they're shutting down these mom and pop gun stores. I've got dealers all around the country calling me and saying, Mike, you know, is there a way you can help us? So they're using technicalities. Yes. Just small little things like that. And they're wanting me to help them out. It's like, man, I'm I'm just a dealer just like you, you know, but this lawsuit that we filed is going to help you out. And so that's why we need. But that's the difference is you're on offense. That's right. I don't I don't want to be in that position. I don't want to be in a position where I have them looking at me. You are different because I would take hours to go over, but you're always on offense, right? What made you go on offense? Just looking at how everyone else is being treated. And I said, I don't want to be put in that predicament. I don't want to be in a spot where so you see others being put down. You have empathy, which means it affects you. You're smart. You stand up. Yes.
2:40:46 That's right. And stand up and stop it and say, you know what? Let's go on the offense here. Let's let's let's stop them where they're where they're doing right now so they don't come after us. Well, that's it. The gun community is the most powerful community in America. Why don't we do what Michael Cargill is doing? It's so frustrating. Why don't you flex your muscles, folks? That's right. That's right. You have to, because if you don't, I'm telling you right now, I don't want to be a sheep. I don't want to be, you know, guided to, you know, do it one direction or whatever. So we got to stand strong. What else is on your radar? So we're also working on the, there's one where you walk into the gun store and you fill out the form and the delay denies. That, listen, there's a bill that Congress passed. I disagree with this bill, I hate it. But it says that if you walk to the gun store, you fill out the 4473, the firearms transaction record, and that transaction is denied, then you're gonna be reported, investigated by the FBI and also put in a system where every law enforcement agency in the country has access to it.
2:41:45 Okay, fine. The bill passed, so there's nothing I can do with that. But the ATF is taking it a step further. They're saying, hey, we're going to extend that to delays. If you walk into the gun store and your transactions delay, a lot of people get delayed. If your name is similar to someone else's, your John Smith, your Carlos Rodriguez, very common name, you're going to get delayed. And so if you get delayed, you have a charge pending. That agency that has that charge, they haven't responded. If that happens, your transaction will be delayed. If you're delayed, just a simple charge will delay you. then you're putting a system that the FBI has access to in every law enforcement agency in the country. And that is not supposed to happen. That's a social credit score. Yes, yes, exactly. And so we're trying to stop little things like that. This is not China. You know, this is the United States of America and we're founded on firearms and we're not supposed to be, you know, tracked down and traced down like this. We don't have a registry and they're creating... Well, take this building. It's full of people looking to steal carries and guns everywhere. I feel totally safe.
2:42:49 And that's the way it's supposed to be. Yeah, that's right. I like to carry three guns on me. I got three guns on me now. So, so and you know, that's our right. And that's why I love the United States. And I feel super safe being here with you. That's right. That's why I love Texas. Love this state. We're going to come back from break. What do you want to hit next? You know, what's this book about, Alex? Oh, The Great Recession and War for the World? Yeah. About the whole New World Order program. Oh, that's all out in the open now, isn't it? It's out in the open. Well, we got to support Central Texas Gun Works. That's where I got my concealed carry. Everybody should go there. CentralTexasGunWorks.com. Folks, if you're in Central Texas, they're the place to get your concealed carry. And like you said, sure, it's open carry now, but you should still get the training. We'll be right back. Stay with us.