Can Secret Technology Really Control Time & Space? In This Exclusive Deep Dive Interview, Alex Jones & Top Deep State / COG Researcher Daniel Liszt Reveal That Trump Is Telling The Truth When He Says That The US Is Far More Powerful Than The World Knows

00:00 But we are capable of so much more. Our technologies permit us to manipulate time and space. They leave distance annihilated, causing us to grow and improve productivity. Ever since Trump got in and even during the campaign, of course, in the first term it was alluded to with the Space Force, which was actually an attempt to pull the control of the UFO file back under the executive branch. And with it all of the X technology that's concerned, which Trump is so knowledgeable about. And there's various memes out there about the level of knowledge that he has. Some people saying he's a time traveler and all this kind of thing. You don't have to go that far. John Trump was his uncle. He was deep, deep in the machinery of this. He was in with the Tesla tech. He was in with the UFO file through Vannevar Bush. So you're already, the minute he enters the political domain, he becomes either a target or a puppet. In this case, he became a target because he wasn't so good at playing a puppet.

00:58 And I think what we have here with Trump rolling this out is today I'm going to reveal something on this program with you, which is that deep, deep in the system, there is a plan for a space Pearl Harbor. It goes back to 1999 when Donald Rumsfeld was leading it. And what Trump is doing by saying we can release the technology, we can put this out. This is the X technology that's been hidden so well over 100 years deep, deep inside the government through using steganography and other means. So what Trump is saying here is we have the ability to overcome time and space. Well, if you look at that, that is an effect that's literally called a pathium. And inside

01:40 those channels. They are studying this. They have been with the advent of UFO crashes, but also with the advent of studying the Tesla tech back in that period. And what they realized is they couldn't study it. When they sent scientists in, their whole definition of time went out the window and a kind of distortion reality, distortion physics kicked in. So this is where we're at. And what they had anticipated doing with this Space Pearl Harbor was, they had been planning it all the way back when they had the project for a new American century. They mentioned in there, well, we have something where it would be a catalyzing event to have a new Pearl Harbor. Well, they got that with 9-11. This is a little bit different, where Rumsfeld was organizing this before the Bush administration, before the W. Bush administration, for the Clinton administration. And this was the commission to assess the United States

02:31 National Security Space Management. Now what's interesting about this is deep in that document is the reference to the space Pearl Harbor. You will find that thread picked up throughout Congress and different hearings and brain trusts and all of these central committees studying the idea of what would happen with a space Pearl Harbor. This is the kinetic weapons bombardment. This is also related directly to the idea of raising a UFO threat. which they've done for all the UAP committees and all the rest of it. They've actually established right under our noses a UFO defense office. And they've attached that to the National Defense Authorization Act. The government fears Alex Jones, who has the largest audience in the country, bigger than any of the networks, the biggest megaphone in the country. The deep state hates Alex Jones with a vengeance. Alex Jones is the most extraordinary person I've ever met.

03:29 All right, Michael Krasios a few days ago in Austin, Texas, he's the chief scientist of the federal government, came out and said we can control time and space. And of course, Trump a few weeks ago, we'll play the clip in a moment, said we've got so much power, we're such a powerful country, and the world needs to know that. I was told by the Trump administration when he was president-elect eight plus years ago, that Trump knew about the life-saving technologies, free energy systems and a lot more, and that he was going to put together internal government commissions to actually survey what was there, and that they were going to then try to bring that out to the civilian market. And so that's exposing the breakaway civilization. That's exposing what the bad guys have already built

04:24 And so now he's going after the Federal Reserve to abolish it. He's defunding all these big globalist NGOs and the CIA funding systems. He's trying to get world peace. He is decentralizing information, declassifying so much. And he's got Tulsi Gabbard now going in all these agencies that refuse to release Crossfire Hurricane and all the other persecution information and the JFK files and all of it. And they're now just disgorging it. There's a little bit of a problem here though. We get the Crossfire Hurricane stuff Last week, last Friday, it's sensational 700 pages. The CIA admitting that they're running operations with the Clinton campaign to make up Russia again. And saying it's essential we keep this hidden from the American people and the Russians that we've made this up. I mean, Brennan should be arrested now, and he's quote, briefing Obama on it. So it just, but again, so much is coming out, we just skip past that. Well, we're not gonna skip past

05:33 What retired Lieutenant General Stephen Quast giving a talk at Hillside College 2019, where he says technology is on the benches today, will deliver a human from any place on earth anywhere else in under an hour. He also claims we can beam wireless energy from space. It's a claim, it's all true. And then you've got all the other admitted secret weapons projects that we know what they have done, we just don't know the specifics or the numbers. And I have that from General Partin, the former head of Air Force Weapons Development. I have that from the former head of the Star Wars program, Dr. Bob Bowman. And then I have that from a lot of other sources and information.

06:20 And you have the quantum entanglement systems, you've got the gravitational control. Then you've got all sorts of other exotic x-ray lasers, particle beam powered death rays. It's just incredible. But the bigger issue here is why is Trump starting to bring this out now? So this is just an amazing time to be alive. Let's go ahead and play a clip of Trump's top science advisors, says the US can manipulate time and space. US government announces it has achieved ability to manipulate space and time. White House says it can, has tech that can manipulate time and space. That's remarks by Director Gracios at the Endless Frontiers retreat, read the full thing, Austin, Texas. And this was done weeks ago, but it just now, days ago.

07:27 But there were other statements made weeks ago similar by Trump. Let's play the top scientist and advisor to the president and then play the clip of the president and then we'll go to our guest. We got a lot more clips coming up with our journalist, here it is. The X-15's record still stands and the Concorde was decommissioned more than two decades ago. Our passenger planes are slower than they used to be. Our trains crawl compared to those in other parts of the world. Our cars do not fly. Advances have not stopped, but something has gone wrong. Stagnation was a choice. We have weighed down our builders and innovators. The well-intentioned regulatory regime of the 1970s became an ever-tightening ratchet, first hampering America's ability to become a net energy exporter and then making it harder and harder to build.

08:24 We seem to have lost focus and vision, to have lowered our sights and let systems and structures and bureaucracies muddle us along. But we are capable of so much more. Our technologies permit us to manipulate time and space. They leave distance annihilated, cause things to grow and improve productivity. As Vice President Vance said in a recent speech, the tradition of American innovation has been one of increasing the capacities of America's workers, of extending human ability so that more people can do more and more meaningful work. But unrestricted immigration and reliance on cheap labor, both domestically and offshore, has been a substitute for improving the productivity with technology.

09:13 We can build in new ways that let us do more with less, or we can borrow from the future. We have chosen to borrow from that future again and again. Our choice as a civilization is technology or debt, and we have chosen debt. Today, we choose a better way. Our first assignment is to secure America's preeminence in critical and emerging technologies. This administration will ensure that our nation remains the leader in the industries of the future with a strategy of both promotion and protection, protecting our greatest assets and promoting our greatest innovators. To the degree it even tried to accomplish this, the Biden administration failed on its own terms, led by spirit of fear rather than promise.

10:05 The old regime sought to protect its managerial power from the disruptions of technology while promoting social divisions and redistribution in the name of equity. They secured American technology poorly and failed to strengthen our leadership at all. All right, well, Director Crassios just in that short two and a half minute clip said so much. They've been suppressing it. It's a decision to put us into the Stone Age while they break away with new civilization. They did this out of fear because they don't think humanity should have this because it'll free us and we need to grow our way out of this debt. That's what innovation does. I mean, this is such a revolutionary statement with Trump's statements, with Vance's statements, with General Klaus' statements.

10:48 Dark journalist, Daniel List, darkjournalist.com, leading, really, journalist and expert on this. This is really amazing. This is exactly what you've been talking about forever, but we've been hammering recently your prediction. We can find this clip, you've done it in the last few months several times, that you're gonna start seeing Trump come out with this stuff. But you caution Trump, probably from what your research, and I agree, only knows about some of it because they've been so secretive. This is a revolution of proportions that actually make me physically get dizzy. This morning when I was comprehending the revolution we're in and how dangerous it is, but also the opportunity, I always hear people say it made me dizzy. I've never been hit with some development where I actually had that. I thought, why do people say that? I actually got lightheaded today comprehending the moment we're in. Does that make sense to you, Daniel?

11:40 Absolutely, and it's great to be here with you, Alex. And you are right on the money with this because this is a major shakeup from a number of different places ever since Trump got in and even during the campaign. Of course, in the first term it was alluded to with the Space Force, which was actually an attempt to pull the control of the UFO file back under the executive branch. And with it all of the X technology that's concerned, which Trump is so knowledgeable about. And there's various memes out there about the level of knowledge that he has. Some people saying he's a time traveler and all this kind of thing. You don't have to go that far. John Trump was his uncle. He was deep, deep in the machinery of this. He was in with the Tesla tech. He was in with the UFO file through Vannevar Bush. So you're already, the minute he enters the political domain, he becomes either a target or a puppet. In this case, he became a target because he wasn't so good at playing a puppet.

12:34 And I think what we have here with Trump rolling this out is today I'm gonna reveal something on this program with you, which is that deep, deep in the system, there is a plan for a space Pearl Harbor. It goes back to 1999 when Donald Rumsfeld was leading it. And what Trump is doing by saying we can release the technology, we can put this out. This is the X technology that's been hidden so well over 100 years deep, deep inside the government through using steganography and other means. So what Trump is saying here is we have the ability to overcome time and space. Well, if you look at that, that is an effect that's literally called a pathium. And

13:16 Inside those channels, they are studying this. They have been with the advent of UFO crashes, but also with the advent of studying the Tesla tech back in that period. And what they realized is they couldn't study it. When they sent scientists in, their whole definition of time went out the window and a kind of distortion reality, distortion physics kicked in. So this is where we're at. And what they had anticipated doing with this Space Pearl Harbor was, they had been planning it all the way back when they had the project for a new American century. They mentioned in there, well, we have something where it would be a catalyzing event to have a new Pearl Harbor. Well, they got that with 9-11. This is a little bit different, where Rumsfeld was organizing this before the Bush administration, before the W. Bush administration, for the Clinton administration. And this was the commission to assess the United States

14:08 aerial national security space management. Now what's interesting about this is deep in that document is the reference to the space Pearl Harbor. You will find that thread picked up throughout Congress and different hearings and brain trusts and all of these central committees studying the idea of what would happen with a space Pearl Harbor. This is the kinetic weapons bombardment. This is also related directly to the idea of raising a UFO threat. all the UAP committees and all the rest of it. They've actually established right under our noses, a UFO defense office. And they've attached that to the National Defense Authorization Act. So I would absolutely agree with you that the nature of this is so stunning. And the bringing it forward what's happening is we're looking at a clash deep in the government between the Trump administration and the forces that are looking to make this public.

15:01 And this other group which is deep in there, which wants something like a space Pearl Harbor in their own documents, they're asking for it. So, and this goes back directly to the same people who set up the continuity of government program. And when you look at that, it's the ultra secrecy transferred from this underground structure that they had during World War II in the 50s and 60s to survive a nuclear attack. They've flipped that secrecy directly into space. And so you have a completely secret space protocol going on. That's where in the middle of and so when you get these words about, we're doing this, we're taking this mission to the moon and all the rest of it. They don't explain the 50 years in between. Well, very interesting mention there by director Kratios when he's talking, and I found it interesting that he took the meeting in Austin. But when he is laying that out, what he's saying is we chose stagnation.

15:55 Direct that directly on the space program and you get the whole reason why you have 52 years of no action, no return missions to the moon, no moon Mars program. The Mars program was set to go to Mars in 1980 under Reagan. So, we have a whole different system that's been set up and what's happened instead is they've sat on that technology, had the public funded and they've privatized. So now they're ready to go in space and they're ready to tell us, well, this is what we have. One group in there wants the space Pearl Harbor, that's the original Rumsfeld protocol. And this other group, which now Trump is right in the heart of through his association with his uncle.

16:34 Trump finds himself in that position of saying let's just roll it out without the false flag event. This is the nature of the crucial thing. They have the breakaway technology that breakaway group wants to break back in. And how does Elon announcing the Golden Dome, which we know SpaceX and Starlink has its civilian uses, but a large portion of its contracts have been secret. It's basically already there. They're just announcing it and then saying anybody that wants this protection can buy into it. So a lot of big dramatic moves happening right now. How does Golden Dome being announced? As you just said, the same thing, it's already in place. Now they're just announcing they're going to do it. It's already pretty much there.

17:23 Exactly, and what's interesting to me, I'm glad you mentioned Golden Dome because this is the extension. This is the next level of Star Wars. It's actually Star Wars 2 from the Reagan administration. And Trump has openly said, well, Trump wanted to do it, but he didn't have the technology. If you go back there and look at some of the comments by people who were around this, particularly Colonel Corso and others on the inside. They said specifically that this was set up not only to deflect against Russia and China, but it was set up in that period to defense against a UFO threat. That's the way that they sold it on the inside. And they had this advanced technology. What was going on with it was basically Star Wars was a protocol

18:04 a protocol for a particle beam weapon from space that could shoot down missiles. That's the cover story, it had a two way purpose which was massive space surveillance on the ground and massive space surveillance of the system. Which was very crucial for what they were seeing coming and going in that period. And then they repurpose it for civilian use to fund it, Google Earth. All of that is really just the quote missile tracking weapon system. integrated surveillance program. And then now, oh, all those Starlink satellites, oh, those also have another use. Oh, now we're gonna put even more up. So absolutely, it's not even your opinion though, you predicted it all. It's now here. They are beginning to unveil what's there. And then by bringing in corporate interest and profits and the stock market and the public, it will then supercharge and accelerate the going public of this operation. But then as you've said,

18:59 There's a lot of corporations, governments, agencies involved. I know we don't know how much is hidden. We know there's a lot hidden. We know Trump isn't even aware of it all. Obviously, there's a project happening right now with his administration to discover it. Do you have any information on how that's going? Yeah, basically there's a huge clash on the inside and I want to say that Musk is a kind of an inter between figure on all this. And it's very easy to see his position in all of it because one of the problems that he has is he has to go back again and again to this absurd idea that there aren't any UFOs, which is unfortunate because he's the owner of the largest repository privately of any group.

18:04 a protocol for a particle beam weapon from space that could shoot down missiles. That's the cover story, it had a two way purpose which was massive space surveillance on the ground and massive space surveillance of the system. Which was very crucial for what they were seeing coming and going in that period. And then they repurpose it for civilian use to fund it, Google Earth. All of that is really just the quote missile tracking weapon system. integrated surveillance program. And then now, oh, all those Starlink satellites, oh, those also have another use. Oh, now we're gonna put even more up. So absolutely, it's not even your opinion though, you predicted it all. It's now here. They are beginning to unveil what's there. And then by bringing in corporate interest and profits and the stock market and the public, it will then supercharge and accelerate the going public of this operation. But then as you've said,

18:59 There's a lot of corporations, governments, agencies involved. I know we don't know how much is hidden. We know there's a lot hidden. We know Trump isn't even aware of it all. Obviously, there's a project happening right now with his administration to discover it. Do you have any information on how that's going? Yeah, basically there's a huge clash on the inside and I want to say that Musk is a kind of an inter between figure on all this. And it's very easy to see his position in all of it because one of the problems that he has is he has to go back again and again to this absurd idea that there aren't any UFOs, which is unfortunate because he's the owner of the largest repository privately of any group.

19:38 outside of the government of UFO video and film and photos. Now here's the thing in relation to how they can use it. There are groups out there like the drone maker Andrew and others. And some of these figures that have shown up on the scene like Palmer Lucky and what can happen is Musk instead of going out and being the central figure around the Golden Dome or around the UFO file, can send these guys in as kind of subsidiaries. say, well, this is the stuff that you're gonna roll out. The problem is the nature of the clash and this gets back to two groups that are on the inside. One of them I refer to as expert tech, the other one's ex share. But the expert tech group, I have to say is overwhelming power because they've shown their power through assassination, world events, manipulation and others. They've been in that possession of that technology and developed the Central Intelligence Agency out of it.

20:30 So we're looking at eight decades of really supreme control when you get into this, into the deep aspects. So what we're looking at is a group that's controlled that. And they had periods where they had scientists work with them, they had military people work with them with the idea that they were gonna disclose this at some point. And they didn't realize it was gonna take them a century to do it. But that group that's operating on the inside doesn't wanna give up that advantage. This This was the nature of the problem all the way back to Tesla who in 1922, I put an exhibit up there. I think it's exhibit three. envisioned exactly the nature of the problem that we have going on here, where they would fight these battles strictly through kinetic weapons and kinetic bombardment using particle beams and others. And he actually shows a description in the middle of all that. What's interesting to me about Tesla is he's envisioning it. There's a good reason why they shut him down so early.

21:26 But I want to go back to this Trump thing just for a moment because people don't really understand the nature, I believe, of why the deep state has such a dislike for Donald Trump. Trump sits at the table with them on the same level, technologically. He understands the breakaway tech, he understands the UFO file. This is crucial for people to understand. Some people would say, they don't like this guy, he pushes them around. He's a real estate developer, he's a loud mouth. This is as far away from the truth as you can get. The real problem has to do with, He is on the similar level. Now, what he does with that knowledge, we'll see how this term goes. I think right now he's been making a lot of the right moves, but a lot of the imagery of the moves isn't very clear. I think they need to do better with how they portray themselves. But I do feel that Trump making these moves, one of the things that we're seeing is when he's saying, well,

22:17 We're not going to have the same relations with Canada that we used to have. Look, Canada is entrenched in NORAD. NORAD, the same COG commander of NORAD is the NORTHCOM commander. That's one whole piece. So when he goes after Canada in this fashion, and I think it should be done in a different way. And when he's going after Canada, what's happening is he's saying, I don't want you guys involved in the continuity of government program anymore. And I don't want NORAD to be a joint Canadian US project. That's really the heart of it. Really look at Trump's moves. What he's specifically known for underneath everything really is the Space Force, all these moves into space, advanced weapons,

23:00 He's been referring to invisible weaponry for a number of years. And the reason is because he has that knowledge. And a lot of people have said, well, when Trump brings up his uncle, he's just musing cuz he had an uncle who was in the military complex. No, no, there's no reason for him to muse at campaign stops and at all this stuff. He's doing that to communicate, this is language that he's using. And when he's saying, my uncle John showed me everything, he's telling those groups inside the National Security. I know all about the UFO file. Yeah, exactly. And let's expand. We were saying this years ago, months ago, that Trump is getting ready to start bringing this out and that those were hints. He specifically did it as you know, a week and a half ago. Let's play the clip of the president. Here it is.

23:52 And we're very powerful. This country is very powerful. It's far more powerful than people understand. We have weaponry that nobody has any idea what it is, and it is the most powerful weapons in the world that we have. More powerful than anybody even, not even close. So nobody's gonna do that. But I think that if that's what you're referring to, maybe it's not. But- So we are tomorrow's news today. I've been telling you this for decades, so have our other expert guests. And now we're here. And so I don't expect, I'm making the prediction right now unless they're able to kill Trump, that we're gonna see now rapid but incremental, but it's gonna incrementally be rolled out very, very quickly. And I think we're about to see some spectacular demonstrations of some of this. Daniel, what are you thinking? What are you hearing?

24:46 Well, it's interesting you mentioned the assassination part and I don't want to be morbid about it either. But I will tell you that I think the entire structure moves into position. Of course, they tried to assassinate President Trump not once but twice during the election and probably God knows how many other times that we don't know about. And the reason for that is very specific, which is the same group that remember operates with an assassination protocol and on a high and a low base. So if they have somebody who's a good astronomer, journalist, whatever it happens to be and they're getting close into that UFO file, they're going to do the same type of

25:22 executive action activity. But if you have somebody in the very top spot who wants to share that information like JFK did, try to share the UFO file with the Russians, well, that was a big problem and they knew that they needed a whole apparatus in order to remove him. In the case of Trump, they have a specifically big problem because he's someone who's on the same level with them. So I think the assassination threat that the security around the president should be particularly high when he's revealing these. Absolutely, stay there. Let's come back and talk about this and play some other key clips. We couldn't be talking about something more important. It's been a major news story for months that in the last eight and a half months I've lost 63 pounds and gained muscle. People ask, how have I done it? Intermittent fasting, better diet.

27:56 All right, Trump is moving so fast. Remember he ordered US troops 10,000 of them out in Syria, his first administration. They kept it secret for two years from him that they lied to him. That's why he wants Milley court-martialed. They've got that commission being set up, not just calling China and saying he was the commander in chief, which he bragged about. Head of IRS being ousted amid Treasury power struggle with Elon Musk. That's the New York Times spin. No, Trump's going after the Federal Reserve and its errand boy is the private The private Federal Reserve's errand boy is the IRS. So just more massive action there. And I should add on Iron Dome that Israel has, only one a Golden Dome over the whole world, that Elon did not want Starlink used for weapons and famously turned them off when Ukraine was using them in the Black Sea to sink Russian ships. And now Elon came out and said it's fake news. I mean, obviously he dominates satellites and dominates space now.

28:59 but he said that's not what we want and we have not put a bid in for the golden dome. SpaceX reading from Elon has not tried to bid for any contract in this regard. He wrote on X our strong preference would be to stay focused on taking humanity to Mars. If the president asks for us to help in that regard we will do so, but I hope that other companies not SpaceX can do this. He's smart, he doesn't want A type one civilization is getting out of war and using technology for expansion and life and knowledge and peace. And so, you can argue, well, this will be a defense shield for that. But Star Wars is really a weapon system. So I got caught by that. And I know corporate media lies, but still it makes sense. It would be SpaceX. It would be Starlink. And I know it has a lot of does a lot of Pentagon work. But

30:03 And I'm sure there are people involved that are pitching that as well. But here you see Elon saying, nope, I'm not putting in for it. And I hope somebody else does this. So what he's saying to Trump is don't ask me to do this. Well, the problem is SpaceX is so far ahead of everybody else now, this is a deliberate sabotage, that who else would do it? Daniel, any other points on that that I wanna go more big picture on this? And then we've also, remember you mentioned this, we pulled it up. Here's Trump at 2020. Trump talks of secret new weapon, it's a pattern of puzzles. I have built a nuclear weapon, I have built a weapon system that nobody's ever had in this country before, Trump said. I'm told by my sources that that is a system where they're able to detonate a weapon one place and then transfer with quantum entanglement the blast somewhere else. And that's from pretty good sources.

31:07 There's a lot of other systems that we know are out there, theoretically certainly, and that were then funded. There's so many angles to this. Where do you want to go next? Well, you're hitting right at the heart of the problem. which is one of the things that you mentioned there. If we go back and just look at your own coverage of 9-11, for example, I remember watching a program that you did a number of years ago referring to state platforms being involved because there was a wave of research in relation to this. Because what took place during the 9-11 event was too far advanced for the type of technology that we're aware of. So when you see demonstrations from this deeper structure that comes into the public structure,

31:50 commits this deep event and then withdraws and we're left puzzling all that together and all these commissions are like well I don't know what it was and I don't know what COG is either because we're not allowed to investigate. Then you realize there's something different operating. And then the corporate media takes real research into that and the fact that they have these different rays that can disintegrate matter and obviously some of this is going on and then all the melted cars and then it turns into Jewish space lasers. We didn't say that, we just. Right. They just turn it into, oh, you know, lizard people. They just turn it into a joke. Yeah. Well, this is very interesting because one of the rules in general that I adopt with dark journalism is this, that you have the official story and that's always covering for the institutions. Then you have the secondary story, which is usually put forward by researchers, professors, journalists.

32:39 And they get to the heart of a lot of these things. But when that starts to boil, there's a third force and that's junk conspiracy. And we are awash in junk conspiracy when it comes to a number of things in relation to 9-11, the JFK assassination. Now they're trying to pull that into a state actor thing when all the records that have come out have pointed directly at the Central Intelligence Agency. That's a 60 year old crime. And we still don't have the right answers on it. And the right questions always would be, who was very deeply involved in the space program. JFK was the pinnacle of the space program in that period. And President Kennedy wanted to share that and go on a joint moon mission with the Russians at the time.

33:22 That is the nature of the problem because he wanted to share that information. Now it's quite fascinating because Katzios in that comment that came up or Kurtzios, he made a very interesting comment which he started to talk about the X15. Well, the X15 was devolved by Walter Dornberg. And you said that a month ago before he gave his speech a few days ago saying it was just chase UFOs and you literally, it's like that two minute clip, each five seconds, it's a whole coded message. It is, it is and it's right on the money. We did it right on this program and you and I were talking about the X15 and Dornberger. Well, Dornberger had access then to the X technology. Can you imagine how far ahead they are now with this? The X15 was still the fastest space plane up until a few months ago and that thing was developed in 1960. And it was developed specifically for the purpose of chasing UFOs for study and for capture.

34:18 So, they've been on the money with this for a long time. Here's what's interesting to me when we look at it. The problem is, when you go back into that historical record, where's the thread directly from this very hidden group into what we're looking at now? That gets right into the heart of the false UFO threat that they've been pushing through these counterintelligence agencies, the CIA people who come out and say I'm a whistleblower and all the rest of it. That's what they're trying to do, because they've been covering up the UFO file. They have been covering that up for eight decades or more. Now they're ready to roll out their version of the story and they need a story that goes with it. And you're gonna have heroic CIA people fighting these devils from space. I mean, that's about as farcical as you can get. The truth is there's been a group there that's been developing in the background a very exotic technology that does mess with time and space.

35:07 Trump and his science director are absolutely correct in that regard. That's exactly what it does. As a matter of fact, some of the people that they've sent in to interact with various craft retrievals and things that they've hit on are astronauts who said that when they were working on the stuff, they would see things like their relatives who had passed on. What kind of technology is that? So you're in a totally different kind of Twilight Zone version of that world and yet it's real. And this is why we get to the heart if you go through that history, people like Forrest Stahl, the Secretary of Defense getting thrown out a window at Bethesda because they were so compelled emotionally by the experience that they had. They wanted to share that information, have a culture move forward with it.

34:18 So, they've been on the money with this for a long time. Here's what's interesting to me when we look at it. The problem is, when you go back into that historical record, where's the thread directly from this very hidden group into what we're looking at now? That gets right into the heart of the false UFO threat that they've been pushing through these counterintelligence agencies, the CIA people who come out and say I'm a whistleblower and all the rest of it. That's what they're trying to do, because they've been covering up the UFO file. They have been covering that up for eight decades or more. Now they're ready to roll out their version of the story and they need a story that goes with it. And you're gonna have heroic CIA people fighting these devils from space. I mean, that's about as farcical as you can get. The truth is there's been a group there that's been developing in the background a very exotic technology that does mess with time and space.

35:07 Trump and his science director are absolutely correct in that regard. That's exactly what it does. As a matter of fact, some of the people that they've sent in to interact with various craft retrievals and things that they've hit on are astronauts who said that when they were working on the stuff, they would see things like their relatives who had passed on. What kind of technology is that? So you're in a totally different kind of Twilight Zone version of that world and yet it's real. And this is why we get to the heart if you go through that history, people like Forrest Stahl, the Secretary of Defense getting thrown out a window at Bethesda because they were so compelled emotionally by the experience that they had. They wanted to share that information, have a culture move forward with it.

35:53 That whole thing was blocked down hardcore. We just got not a World War II and they wanted secrecy to be the rule of the day. By the time you get to Kennedy, he's up there thinking I'm building things into freedom. I am creating a whole new paradigm. And then when he's removed, there's a gigantic hush around that. We go to the moon, we follow up on all that. And then there's a couple more missions and they cut it out completely. Even though according to Gordon Cooper, who's one of the most celebrated astronauts, they They had a mission to go to Mars and he was asked by Wernher von Braun to take us to Mars to command that program. One day someone tapped him on the shoulder and said, don't mention this ever again. In my opinion, they went to Mars. They already have landed on Mars. Now here's an interesting thing.

36:37 50 to 60 years is about the wave of things that we find out about that already took place. And I have good examples for this. For example, the NRO is this incredible secret satellite observation station committee and this group inside the government that was inaugurated in 1961. And yet the public didn't find out until 32 years later. So the National Reconnaissance Office wasn't even known. Well, what offices are active right now in relation to a secret space infrastructure that we don't know anything about? This is the nature of the problem. And this is why, in a sense, the society has developed a kind of schizophrenia because the person on the public level does not get the same information as the people on that deep level. And I think a little bit of that has always been true, but now it's so overbalanced because

37:24 the explosion of the technology. They've reached a point with the exotic technology that It's absolutely life changing. It changes the power structure on Earth and it changes our understanding of humanity's role in the cosmos. That's a huge change and they want to make sure as these changes kick in that they still sit on the top of that pyramid. This is the nature of the problem. And that is the nature of what we refer to as the deep state. Well, very small corner in that deep state is this breakaway expert tech group and they have the most impact. being able to manipulate time and space and the theoretical things we know they've been secretly funding and we know what the Germans were already able to do. Let's get into specifically what they're talking about here because I have my sources and there's a whole range of things. We have Secretary of Defense Cohen back in 97 admitting they have tectonic weapons, we have the neutrino weapon system down in Antarctica,

38:31 What is the spectrum of things that from good sources they've got? I mean, what is Trump talking about? Excellent question. Well, interesting you mentioned that neutrino station there in Antarctica and there's no question that there's very good sources and whistleblowers in relation to earthquakes that took place in that area, including Christchurch, New Zealand, based on that technology. Now it's interesting to me because of course, Tesla himself in 1903 demonstrated an earthquake making machine, while they've gone to just superhuman levels in relation to this. One of the things I'll mention here is that when you look through that history about people who've tried to determine exactly the nature of time and space, you go directly into T.T. Brown. And T.T. Brown had developed something, according to his daughter, who I spoke to, and this is on the record now.

39:25 She has put it out there that he developed something called the acoustic fan. And the acoustic fan is something that when you would stand in front of it, you would see every point in time behind you in your life and everything that you would do in the future just by standing in front of it. I mean, that's pretty advanced technology. This thing was demonstrated in the basement at the Rand Corporation, the largest defense contractor, one of the largest at the time. And Curtis LeMay was there and others were there. And immediately afterwards, Brown went to his daughter and said, you know what? You're going to Europe, honey. Have a nice trip and don't ever think about the demonstration. Don't think about the acoustic fan. Just forget it.

40:08 And so that was left on the table there. But he'd been working on that program for 10 years. When you go through, there's street legends about these various projects, what happens to be the Philadelphia experiment, Blue Beam, whatever it happens to be. There's an echo in relation to this. And it seems to go directly into anti-gravity, the UFO file, and something about particle beam weapons. And if you look, all three of those things is what John Trump was deeply involved in. Well that's what my source is multiple ones in the Pentagon that they've seen demonstrated is that they can fire these high-powered particle beams and then basically open a time-dimensional gate and then have it hit a target on another side of the planet or out in space wherever they want now with the targeting and that they're also able to

41:04 intensify the power of these beams and pick up other types of particles that are not generally associated with the third dimension and massively increase the destructive power. So basically a low-powered beam of a certain type goes through this and then comes out much stronger. Just incredible stuff. Well, that is absolutely right on. And here's what's interesting too when you're hearing those things, because a lot of this information is coming directly out of CERN. And I would say again, what's interesting is we are still on a clip about 20 to 30 to maybe 40 years behind what they're actually discovering. And we all know with CERN and the Hadron Collider, they got into trouble because scientists were suing them because literally they were creating what? Strangelets, little black holes.

41:57 So, what do black holes do? They suck up everything. They suck up all the-. And that's why they had a bunch of explosions. Exactly. And we've also seen a lot of very verifiable stories, including film clips of all these occult rituals taking place at CERN. So we're looking at something that we don't quite understand. But those people, if you go deep into it, I spoke to someone who was working with someone who had developed a tarot card. I have all those wonderful tarot cards. It's from Suzanne Treister. She made this incredible deck and all of the cards show Tesla, death,

42:35 UFOs, that's what's going on inside of CERN. This is what their belief is and they've put it out in this very, very occult fashion. They also worship the particle collider because they feel it's an interface between here and another dimension. And in fact, now it's finally admitted that well, they said originally they were setting it up to find the Higgs boson. This is the God particle as it were. Not Hollywood tells you what they're doing with movies like Event Horizon. Oh yes, absolutely. And the movies aspect of it have been coming at us for a long time. I think they lay out so much in these movies and also the books. In fact, when I was referring to this space, Pearl Harbor in space, if you look, there's a book out there called Ghost Fleet. And this is actually the name. Let me do this. I'm going to throw something at you and if you can't do it, 100% understand. Yes.

43:31 Do because I've got another guest coming up, but this is too important Also, I like where you go because I watch the shows you do other interviews and you can't do it until I understand You could take a break for an hour and you can come back and host the fourth hour. Oh, absolutely Yes, yes, absolutely great. Perfect. Then let's stop here. Yeah, let's stop here And then you go wherever you want. You can tell the crew what you want. You're gonna host the fourth hour in 70 minutes, okay Fantastic. All right. Thank you so much. Sounds great. It's great to see you. Absolutely. We have Dr. Haseem Malhortha coming in here. He's a big on-record advisor to Robert F. Kennedy Jr. He's been tapped to head up an agency and that fight's going on right now. He's here in Austin. He's got big news on the health front revolution, all part of what we're seeing happening coming up. And there's so much more here. I want to

44:23 Talk about some war news first, though, before we have him on. And then for the first five or a little bit in the next hour, after that, when I introduce our journalist, who'll be taking over in the fourth hour, he'll at least do 55 minutes of the show. Then this is too important. And he knows way more than I do. I need to just let him do the show. That just hit me and I'm glad he can do it because this is too important. I'm like, well, I want this next guest on, but this is important so we can just have our cake and eat it too now. And I hope everybody, Yeah, he is on it too. So Daniel Lowe's to be hosting the fourth hour in 15, no, no, 68 minutes from now. This is just miraculous what's going on. I wanna hit the Ukraine war news and I wanna tie that into Trump has rejected Israel attack plan on Iran. Now the Hawks are fuming and why even call them Hawks? How about megalomaniacal warmongering demons that wanna blow the planet up?

45:31 Again, all these terms we use are not right, okay? Somebody watching the border trying to defend our sovereignty, those are border hawks. Somebody that believes in a strong defense for peace, peace through strength, that's a hawk. I'm a hawk. Somebody that wants to go around overthrow governments and start wars is a demon. And so words mean things. So I'm gonna get to that in a moment. But before we do that, listeners, We have millions and millions and millions of people that tune in on talk radio and over the internet every day. Some days 60, 70, 80 million, most days 30, 40 million people actually tune into the show one way or another. And I love you and I appreciate you. I just wanna remind you the power you have when you share the articles, when you share the videos, when you share the reports, when you take clips out of the show, when you re-upload them, not just on X, but everywhere. This is an info war. And because of the magnitude of the massive news, I have not spent a lot of time on the attacks on us and what's going on and how we've barely survived over and over again, thanks for your support.

46:37 We could be shut down by May 2nd. The Democrat Party through their law firms in Connecticut have come into the state court, because it's getting kicked out of federal court, and say they're coming in May to close the doors. We're going to do some things in court and try to hold that off, obviously, but I don't know. Regardless, If they do that, Enforce.com goes away, Enforce.org.com goes away. It's just, it's gonna be shut down. It's a state coming in. It's not a bankruptcy. It's not being handed over. We'll just turn it off. And that's fine. I just don't give up. We have the Allocs Network. We have systems. We have backers and stuff ready to come in. But at the end of the day,

47:19 This is the hill I'm dying on until they shut it down because I pledge to do that and it's important and then they're going to try to take my name and stuff and a bunch of stuff that's unconstitutional and harass us. That's fine. I'm going to keep fighting. I love it. I expect to be under attack because I expect to be on their ass. I'm on the attack. So I'm in a war. I'm a warrior. I'm not whining. I'm simply reporting to you that my strength is magnified millions of times by you. All right, my crew strength You are the crew, you are my brothers, you are my sisters. So just let that sing into your brain. Now a lot of you share the articles on your text message or email, a lot of you share the live link at Rolex Jones with the stuff to be covered next hour and after that, so important. We want to understand the secret technologies that Trump's talking about. You're getting the exclusive here from Daniel List, who literally was on a month ago and literally just gave the speech that you just saw Trump's chief scientist give.

52:24 was the future, that suddenly the world became color because I didn't understand that television, most of it was fiction, and the rest of it was just snapshots of limited reality, however they wanted to present it. And I just started thinking about it last night, that a lot of the public in a trance state, you know, that believes too many can have a baby and, you know, things like that, a litmus test in the cult that you're under their mind control, if you accept that, they really see the world in something like a four-year-old would. Now, One of my earliest good memories is arguing with my dad when I was three years old on Christmas Eve. We had a brick fireplace, red brick, there in Dallas and it was white mortar and he was saying, oh no, Santa Claus comes out of his chimney like this, just like those two red bricks, he just slips down. I go, well there's a fire in the fireplace, he's gonna catch on fire. And he's so fat, it wasn't that big of a fireplace, it was a small house, he can't fit in there. Dad's like, well, that's how he does it, starts laughing. And I said, Dad, Santa Claus isn't real.

53:18 I got that early on, nobody told me, but still it was about another year or so, probably about the time I was almost five. I remember like sitting there watching The Wizard of Oz with my parents. It had come back in movie theaters, they took me to it and like after the movie I said, show, it's black and white at the start but becomes color when she goes to Oz. And my mom's like, no, no, that's just what it is in effect. They shot it on film in black and white and then they shot the rest of the movie in color to have that effect. And I went, oh, so the world has always been in color. He said, yes. I'm like, wow. Wow. I've got one that can see. All right, folks, I have been all over the map today because I just got overwhelmed by the news and

54:20 I'm gonna have Daniel List actually host right now when we come back because I want to get the deep dive on quantum entanglement on the White House chief scientist Saying they have the power to control time and space and that goes into everything Daniels been saying We also have the clip we haven't played of retired lieutenant general talking about this so that that's coming up as well But first I told you about methylene blue. Here's what it did to Kirk Elliott Bill Gates, Klaus Schwab, King Charles

55:04 New world order all you scumbag globalists not as America The world is awakening and you're going down by the way. I just asked dr Kirk Elliott if he's ever taken methylene blue and he said yeah his doctor told him he should take it and that he you know, He takes a lot of supplements and feels great, but he didn't really feel it specifically when he took it Well, that's what happened with me with previous methylene blue a few times I felt a little bit of energy and But not with ours, so it usually hits people in about 25 to 30 minutes. So if it hits him by the end of the show, we'll let you know. Ours is medical grade, thealexshowstore.com, and 10 times the effect of anything I ever had before. Doc chug that down. I'll shoot a video. If he doesn't feel it, we'll put it on air tomorrow. If he does feel it, we'll tell you.

55:51 I felt methylene blue hit me in 15 minutes. I mean, after about an hour and a half, it stopped peaking and I was just like, and I was kind of getting scared. It was just like, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz So my fingers are tingly, right? Five minutes into it. And it's almost like the air that I'm breathing feels lighter. It feels cleaner. I feel more vibrant. It's like a crisp wind. Yeah, it's just I feel lighter.

56:33 It's really interesting. I almost feel smarter. It's increasing. I mean, literally, what you just described, like walking in a mountain meadow, fresh flowers, the nice crisp air, the wind, that's what it feels like and it keeps getting more and more and more. It's a very focused, pleasant feeling. So it's been a few minutes now that we're about 35 minutes into you taking it what you're feeling. So my toes, my fingers, it feels like my blood is like just rushing through my body like really fast, right? It's like this tidal wave and it makes me feel focused. It makes me feel alert. I do a ton of studying, a ton of reading, a ton of research.

57:20 You know what Alex, I wish I would have had this when I was working on my PhD studies. It's like I probably could have got it done way faster. I mean, truly I feel alert and more focused and it's like everything that's coming in is sinking in but the air around me feels lighter. It's like you know how when you have a heaviness that's on you and you walk around and you're just kind of moping around? I feel like I have a spring in my step even though I'm sitting here. It's this like feeling I feel more energetic I feel more alive on the inside. It just keeps intensifying. It's an amazing feeling. When you live in a world that there's so much fear and it just makes you kind of down, I almost feel like my body is full of sludge and it's cleaning itself out. That's what it feels like. I would say it's like a high wind blowing a cloud off of you. Yeah. Well, it's hard to keep. We got

58:14 about 20 bottles for ourself when it came in three and a half weeks ago. I was going to try it, like yeah we're pushing it, I'm sure it's great, everybody says it's great. Let me actually see how good it is. But you can get yours right now at thealexjonesstore.com. It does just energize your body and your health. It energizes this operation, the face of the globalists. Get your ultra-methylene blue. It's the strongest we know is out there. We found out there's a better supplier, we'll get it. But right now this is like 10 times stronger than anything I ever took, so be careful with it. your own research, consult your health care provider or physician. But Kirk, we'll get you a bottle of this and thank you so much for your support. You bet. You know, I was sitting here looking at all this news and I had dark journalist Daniel Liss, one of the leading experts on all these secret technologies that Trump's been rolling out and talking about. And I just realized this is so important, we need to keep going. And so he's gonna host right now that I'm gonna be back with our other big medical expert, top advisor to RFK Jr. about the real fight inside the Trump administration on the poison vaccines and the whole make America healthy again things. A lot of good things happening, some bad things happening.

59:17 That's going to be in the fourth hour. But I really wanted to just give him the floor to get into this and flesh this out and make more of his predictions that are all coming true. I mean, we're on the verge of something so big. What's already happening is amazing on so many fronts, but you can just see where the moves are going. We predicted, Daniel and I, months ago, that we're going to see big moves by Trump as he begins to get everybody ready for this disclosure. And the bad guys have been fighting to stop this from happening. It's simply amazing. But then I also wanted to get to this last hour, but we didn't. So I'm going to play this and then he'll come back and take over and respond to this and go wherever he wants. But here's retired Lieutenant General Stephen Quast.

58:14 about 20 bottles for ourself when it came in three and a half weeks ago. I was going to try it, like yeah we're pushing it, I'm sure it's great, everybody says it's great. Let me actually see how good it is. But you can get yours right now at thealexjonesstore.com. It does just energize your body and your health. It energizes this operation, the face of the globalists. Get your ultra-methylene blue. It's the strongest we know is out there. We found out there's a better supplier, we'll get it. But right now this is like 10 times stronger than anything I ever took, so be careful with it. your own research, consult your health care provider or physician. But Kirk, we'll get you a bottle of this and thank you so much for your support. You bet. You know, I was sitting here looking at all this news and I had dark journalist Daniel Liss, one of the leading experts on all these secret technologies that Trump's been rolling out and talking about. And I just realized this is so important, we need to keep going. And so he's gonna host right now that I'm gonna be back with our other big medical expert, top advisor to RFK Jr. about the real fight inside the Trump administration on the poison vaccines and the whole make America healthy again things. A lot of good things happening, some bad things happening.

59:17 That's going to be in the fourth hour. But I really wanted to just give him the floor to get into this and flesh this out and make more of his predictions that are all coming true. I mean, we're on the verge of something so big. What's already happening is amazing on so many fronts, but you can just see where the moves are going. We predicted, Daniel and I, months ago, that we're going to see big moves by Trump as he begins to get everybody ready for this disclosure. And the bad guys have been fighting to stop this from happening. It's simply amazing. But then I also wanted to get to this last hour, but we didn't. So I'm going to play this and then he'll come back and take over and respond to this and go wherever he wants. But here's retired Lieutenant General Stephen Quast.

59:58 five years ago talking about technology that's on the drawing boards that they have that'll do incredible things very similar to what Trump's chief scientist just said days ago about controlling time and space. And Trump speaks to it as incredible, powerful weapon systems. But his chief scientist said, but what about the civilian uses for society and technology and innovation and empowerment? It's just almost unlimited. And think about where we are from 100 years ago that what they've suppressed, I would have described the changes you've seen in 100 years. If you had a dead reckon, maybe a thousand years. I mean, just imagine how fast technology you think's already moved when you learn it's really been suppressed and all the stuff they call disruptive to their monopoly of power that would empower us and free us. These are feudalists. These are globalists that use feudalism as

1:00:46 as their system. Well, imagine what a modern feudalism would look like. You think you're progressing, but really all the real infrastructure is being turned off and everything you are given technological is given to poison. You control, you track, you dumb you down. And here's Trump's chief scientist saying no. And remember, Obama's and others were John P. Holder and others, these big globalists that said our main measure is depopulation. and deindustrialization, that's agenda 2030, the UN treaty, the post-industrial world. Imagine now we're hearing the exact opposite, a totally new direction, a new renaissance. Here's the clip of the Lieutenant General retired, and then Daniel is takes over, our journalist here it is. Energy, the seed corn of all development, all growth, all survival, energy.

1:01:27 So energy, transportation, information and manufacturing, these are the things that change humanity, that will change world power, and they are descending upon us in ways that are very unique. The technology is on the engineering benches today, but most Americans and most in Congress have not had time to really look deeply at what's going on here. But I've had the benefit of 33 years of studying and becoming friends with these engineers and these scientists. This technology can be built today with technology that is not developmental to deliver any human being from any place on planet Earth to any other place in less than an hour. To deliver Wi-Fi from space where you never need a cell tower to connect. To deliver energy from space where you never have to plug your phone in and it trickle charges and you can use that energy over time. It can be applied to cars, to houses. The technology of Edison and Tesla that we live with in our energy environment, our paradigm today

1:02:33 is expensive, it's dangerous and it's wasteful. Plugging into the wall. But yet that's what we all do because we are used to paradigms. The power of space will change world power forever. And it doesn't have to be a big country to do it. It can be a small island country. Let's say New Zealand. Because the technology if optimized, can change world power. And there's nothing you can do if you don't have that power. The nature of power. You either have it and your values rule or you do not have it and you must submit. We see that play out again and again in history and it's playing out now. But we get trapped.

1:03:22 Wow what a wild if you really get into what he's saying they're absolutely incredible and of course this idea that you can deliver anything on any other part of the world within an hour is also alluding to this incredibly advanced technology the main issue that's going on here is that. We're not really looking at the space part. The space thing is what they kind of are alluding to and leaving out. But you know something's been going on in space for 50 years while they've been doing this. That's the nature of the issue that we're looking at. And I'm going to read you a very interesting quote from Donald Rumsfeld to kind of kick off this segment. It's very nice to be hosting for Alex who you know it's interesting because Alex I consider an architect.

1:04:04 the independent media and bringing in these deeper issues really leading the way on this. So here's the quote, if the US is to avoid a space Pearl Harbor, it needs to take seriously the possibility of an attack on US space system. That's Donald Rumsfeld in 2001, January 11th though, before W was sworn in or he was taken on as Defense Secretary. He was deep, deep in the space protocol and it's very important to see because we very often don't see who the exact deep state players are.

1:04:43 With Rumsfeld and Cheney, you get that window. And now with people starting to reinvestigate 9-11 again and really looking deep into what took place there, the space aspect again comes into play because there was a number of opportunities for looking at space platforms and weapons launched from space platforms. Here's the interesting thing when it comes to some of the deep events that we've had in our history, that Russia has been right there with their satellites and with their information on the UFO file and with their own development of kinetic energy weapons and others. And what we're looking at with the deeper developments is that they know very much what we know. And this is the nature of the problem and why you had

1:05:23 years wasted in this boondoggle for the defense contractors in Ukraine. Because smashing Russia is an absolute imperative on behalf of the deep state. Because one of the things that they're concerned with, and of course, Russia's no angel. But let's face it, it's better to coexist with Russia as it is and have them as some kind of a partner, some kind of a trading ally. And what's been going on though in relation to Russia is their own development around the UFO file. They know so many of the things from their own investigations. They had their satellites during 9-11. They know the things that took place and the weapons that were used. They know everything about what took place when we went into space, the missions that happened, the way that they happened. Maybe not the way that they've been portrayed in history like the moon landing exactly. Although we certainly went out there and far, far beyond.

1:06:13 So when we look at this, we have to understand that when dealing with the Russians, we're in this back and forth where the Russians have that information. We don't know exactly how much, and we have that information, that leading edge. So this dance has been going on in relation to the UFO file, to advanced exotic technology and the experiments that have taken place in relation to this. And of course, whenever you're getting around exotic technology, you're getting directly into weapons use. Unfortunately, the thing is, of course, the same thing that can move that culture forward and get you off of these archaic fossil fuel systems is the same thing that in the hands of the wrong person can vaporize an entire nation. So we've been looking at this and really hard, deep in the middle of this battle. And what you see very often that takes place on an executive level is Trump

1:07:04 For example, with Putin, there's an incredible wall of resistance trying to keep these people apart. Well, as we have focused on before, JFK and Khrushchev had this very same problem with JFK saying, get the CIA out of here, get the State Department out of here. I wanna deal directly with Khrushchev and just a translator. And in the case of Gorbachev and Reagan, the same thing. When those people get together, what is it that they talk about that the deep state doesn't want them to get into? That's the UFO file, and that's the nature of this level of energy. And these groups inside don't want them sharing what the other one knows. And so you have both sides, in fact. You have these kind of hawks and doves on both sides who are trying to run this game.

1:07:46 But what you're looking at in relation to the UFO aspect is quite interesting because when you get into the idea of SDI, you might remember if you go back and check the record that SDI Star Wars was originally set up as something that we could share with the other powers of the world, with the other superpowers. So the idea was we'll develop this thing, but don't worry, we won't attack you with it. We're gonna share the technology with you. Well, this is very much like the shared programs that were developed under the Kennedy administration where he was saying, what I'm going to do is I am going to share the UFO file with the Russians so that we don't have a nuclear incident related to that. What kind of a peace offering is that? Our highest secret in the national security state, I'm going to give it over.

1:08:30 Now, if you look, you're gonna find that in the records release, they did a very interesting trick over at the Central Intelligence Agency. And I've talked about the George Joanides records being held up and not released. There's a very good reason for that. George Joanides was involved not just with the Oswald Project and the JFK assassination. He was involved and got his career intelligence medal from Admiral Bobby Inman, who's very involved with the UFO file. These things go hand in hand if you watch them in history. And if we're looking then at the announcements by Kratios, what he was doing is he was signaling there, yeah, we intentionally put the brakes on in the 1970s. He mentions the X-15 because that's a demonstration that we had the X technology right in the heart and in the middle of all this, and we could use it at any time.

1:09:18 And if you look at people on the CEO front from Musk to Bezos, they suddenly got passionate about space at a certain point. And Bezos in particular chose Blue Origin as his mission. But he started identifying himself and there's a famous cover of him on Wired magazine with this huge X behind him. And they started to use the symbol of the X to communicate in a hidden fashion with steganography what they were saying to the others. And they were saying, look, we have this advanced technology, yes, we'll use it. Yes, we're just as powerful as you are. And you saw the same thing take place between nations. So when Russia was taking on the Ukraine war and America and Biden were feigning all this outrage after they knew exactly what was going to take place there because they were amassing

1:08:30 Now, if you look, you're gonna find that in the records release, they did a very interesting trick over at the Central Intelligence Agency. And I've talked about the George Joanides records being held up and not released. There's a very good reason for that. George Joanides was involved not just with the Oswald Project and the JFK assassination. He was involved and got his career intelligence medal from Admiral Bobby Inman, who's very involved with the UFO file. These things go hand in hand if you watch them in history. And if we're looking then at the announcements by Kratios, what he was doing is he was signaling there, yeah, we intentionally put the brakes on in the 1970s. He mentions the X-15 because that's a demonstration that we had the X technology right in the heart and in the middle of all this, and we could use it at any time.

1:09:18 And if you look at people on the CEO front from Musk to Bezos, they suddenly got passionate about space at a certain point. And Bezos in particular chose Blue Origin as his mission. But he started identifying himself and there's a famous cover of him on Wired magazine with this huge X behind him. And they started to use the symbol of the X to communicate in a hidden fashion with steganography what they were saying to the others. And they were saying, look, we have this advanced technology, yes, we'll use it. Yes, we're just as powerful as you are. And you saw the same thing take place between nations. So when Russia was taking on the Ukraine war and America and Biden were feigning all this outrage after they knew exactly what was going to take place there because they were amassing

1:10:06 troops. And what's interesting to me is what was taking place is that they were looking at this and saying, all of a sudden, we had a UFO over this particular Moscow airport, we shot it down. They were using the terms UFO themselves. That's a raising of the stakes when you get around this. When Trump is sitting there saying we have incredible weapons you've never heard of, it's raising the stakes. They have this thing operational in the background. And this is the breakaway group, they are operating with advanced technology. They are telling these groups we have the ability to do this. Now Trump is in kind of an interesting bind with all this because when you look at Trump, what he's saying is

1:10:48 I can do this, I can bring this out and I don't need what Rumsfeld program of a space Pearl Harbor to do it. I don't need another 911 to do it. I'll just do it and tell them that we have it. And the problem is those people in the background that are trying to control this is saying no, the Russians haven't shown their hand about what they have China. We don't know exactly what they have in relation to the space program, probably not as advanced as the Russians. But no, But nonetheless, they have this advanced technology. They've been working with the exotic technology. So if we reveal it, they know it. It's the same thing when you get to the UFO file, regardless of where anyone thinks that they're coming from. But I will say this, that if we've acquired off-world technology, which certainly we have, something is going on there in that battle over that issue, which

1:11:36 who was our top physicist in that period, right on the same level with Oppenheimer, who they made the movie about and didn't mention the UFO file, even though he was deeply involved with that. That was Robert Sarbarker and he's been rubbed out of history. You can't even find a Wikipedia page on this guy, forget it. But Sarbarker said, yeah, it's the top secret, in fact, inside the United States government, higher than nuclear. Well, if you have a secret that's higher than nuclear, then obviously you're going to employ every kind of means. We have all this espionage, sabotage means when it comes to the UFO file. And those are the things that we don't know anything about. There's an entire group, an entire entity handling that. That's how you get the transparency. And I've been a little bit

1:12:23 cynical about the groups that they've had studying this in Congress. Not because I think that they have any ill intention like Luna or Birchett or any of those Congress people, but they don't know enough about the issue. And the problem is the people that they're bringing in are counterintelligence officials. Those counterintelligence officials are are under orders to control this process of any kind of disclosure coming out by spinning a false narrative. These people have been prepping the narrative. They're just rolling their people out. And when people like me show up on the radar and say, hey, that guy is in counterintelligence. He's not a whistleblower. He still works for the government and I can prove it. Nothing. All they can do is issue dead silence

1:13:03 While you have a number of these podcasts and cable shows and everything else touting, CNN touts, UFO whistleblower comes forward. He's against the government. He's been calling out the government on all this. This is a big problem because they still work for the government. You can still check their payroll. And they're still getting paid by the government on record. So what kind of whistleblower would they be? That doesn't make any sense. So you have a false thing going on with disclosure. When you get to exotic technology around this, it's directly related. It's exactly the same thing. So really Trump is pushing the line and stepping over the line in a sense when he's saying we have weapons that you don't know anything about.

1:13:43 And now with his science director putting this on the record saying we've been held up but we're going to bring this forward. That group inside the deep state does not want the other powers on earth and also they don't want their own position revealed. So this is a huge pushback going back between the two of them and you have Trump there again, understanding, you have to go back into Trump's history to understand him correctly. But we have to understand who Roy Cohn is. We have to understand that Roy Cohn was an architect of the deep state. He was one of the main people who understand where all the bodies were buried. And when you understand that, and then you understand things about John Trump and a lot of people, I think, incorrectly when they analyze this about Trump, they're like, he was just some scientist in the program. This is a scientist who rolled into Paris with Ike for liberation, okay? That's how much they thought of him. He got the presidential scientific commendation from Reagan.

1:13:03 While you have a number of these podcasts and cable shows and everything else touting, CNN touts, UFO whistleblower comes forward. He's against the government. He's been calling out the government on all this. This is a big problem because they still work for the government. You can still check their payroll. And they're still getting paid by the government on record. So what kind of whistleblower would they be? That doesn't make any sense. So you have a false thing going on with disclosure. When you get to exotic technology around this, it's directly related. It's exactly the same thing. So really Trump is pushing the line and stepping over the line in a sense when he's saying we have weapons that you don't know anything about.

1:13:43 And now with his science director putting this on the record saying we've been held up but we're going to bring this forward. That group inside the deep state does not want the other powers on earth and also they don't want their own position revealed. So this is a huge pushback going back between the two of them and you have Trump there again, understanding, you have to go back into Trump's history to understand him correctly. But we have to understand who Roy Cohn is. We have to understand that Roy Cohn was an architect of the deep state. He was one of the main people who understand where all the bodies were buried. And when you understand that, and then you understand things about John Trump and a lot of people, I think, incorrectly when they analyze this about Trump, they're like, he was just some scientist in the program. This is a scientist who rolled into Paris with Ike for liberation, okay? That's how much they thought of him. He got the presidential scientific commendation from Reagan.

1:14:40 And he had three meetings now on the record about SDI Star Wars with Reagan. And then he gets the medal and then he dies in the 1980s. So if you go and check the record, there's a very interesting article by a guy named Ron Rosenbaum. And he writes for Slate magazine, but he talks about, and he's a major liberal, he's very anti-Trump. But nonetheless, his article is interesting. What he said was, yeah, I met him in 1987, we met at the 21 Club. And I heard that Trump was having all these high level meetings with government officials. at secret locations at the White House. And at the time, Trump had nothing to do with anything like that. Actually, Trump was that Lifestyles of the Richard Famous guy. He'd really cracked the code, Trump Tower and everything else, and he was opening casinos. So

1:15:30 This guy pulls him aside and says, I want an interview with you. I wanna get into the whole thing. And during that interview, he hits him with this. I've hear you've been at the White House. And he said, yeah, I'm talking to the highest people relating to emergency preparedness. The highest people in that emergency preparedness relate directly to the continuity of government group. I've described continuity of government before, and I want to say a lot of that draws on the research really of Professor Peter Del Scott. And Peter Del Scott, the Berkeley professor, studied this stuff for five years and he said, the most secret organization we have is continuity of government. Well, that made me want to take a good look at exactly who they were, and you can't find very much about them. And yet, the minute there is a sky emergency, like the tryout we had with

1:16:19 everything else that was taking place last December. The minute there's an emergency, they can create this emergency power situation, forget about the COVID, this thing would make the COVID look like a walk in the park. And they're able to see so many powers in relation to that because we have an entity called Northcom. All of this comes out of the 9-11 emergency powers. And every year, every president signs on to that trillion dollar budget, including Trump. including Biden, Stepford Biden, including Obama, all of them, Bush, of course. They all signed on to the emergency. We're still under that emergency. The emergency has never been lifted. There's an interesting history there with it as well where President Nixon in 1970 went deep and he was trying to figure out the emergency powers that were going on in relation to Korea. And he figured out we're still under emergency powers from the Korean War.

1:17:18 So emergency powers give people who don't have the ability to govern the ability to take over. And that's what we're looking at with the continuity of government Northcom people. So that group Northcom didn't even exist. We had things like sent calm. areas of Europe and things like that. We didn't have Northcom, that's a military group designed to control the United States. And before we used to have the police running us, that's federal takeover. And it's all because of the 9-11 situation. With 9-11 coming back, with the Congress people coming forward and the Tucker Carlson interviews, and all the research that Alex has done over these years coming back to the fore, what we can't miss in the middle of it is not just the thing that was accomplished through that deep event, but the technology that was involved. That's the thing that's going to get us into that next area.

1:18:14 of investigation. And when you see the type of technology that they've had that's not public, then you can see when they use it, they talk about it in relation to 9-11, the pulverization and things like that and things being vaporized. There's a whole different type of technology going on in relation to this. We get hints of it through geoengineering, we get hints of it through other places. There's a fantastic researcher I've interviewed who's done the best geoengineering Books and her name's a lot of Freeland. One of the things that she did is she deduced after studying this for so long that they're making everyone into a walking tower. And this really makes sense because the original idea of these groups was to control things on the ground.

1:18:59 From above and of course you know we've had the fantastic guest on our program Nick baggage describing these things. And he's been on the show so many times with Alex and I you know he I don't even think he talks about harp anymore but that technology. And that issue around this was so important to bring to the public. And again, this is a Tesla technology. And he was finding when they were talking about it, measuring the ionosphere and all this other stuff, that there was an aspect involved with HAARP that had to do with managing emotions. And managing, it was kind of a brainwashing technology coming directly out of the ionosphere.

1:19:41 Now, that type of technology and the type of technology that we're talking about that ran harp and all those things goes directly back to the same work that people like Trump and Vannevar Bush and others were working in the 30s and 40s. How much of a clip of a timeline are we looking at here? So we're gonna get a real accurate snapshot of that period in the past. We're gonna have to look at Vannevar Bush His control of the UFO file is passing it along to various people, including John Trump, who was his protege. And that aspect of investigating the Tesla technology that was involved. I've done a number of shows on something called the Melchizedek device, which was the thing that they were actually looking for in the heart of Tesla's research. And when you look at this, it's quite fascinating because that whole thing that Tesla had envisioned

1:20:36 In fact, the death ray and all this type of thing is supposedly what they sent Trump in there to look for. But it's quite interesting because if you really check the record, and I've got this 11 hours of John Trump before he died. various ways about all the work that he did. He describes in detail what they asked him to find and it was a device that could take flying objects down at a distance. In the next segment, I'm going to tell you all about if this thing worked and what happened and is that how we got the UFO retrievals in the first place. And this is really the nature of the question. That's what we need to answer and get further and further into that and less and less into the divisions. So that's where we're going with it. And I would also say there's no way around dealing with the UFO file in relation to all this. So keep that in mind. All right, this is a review for the ultramethylene blue from the Alex Jones store.

1:23:43 And what I like to say is there's a way also that's been handed out. You know we talk about it through movies and through books and things and the kind of predictive programming that's involved with all this. And there's a reason for that. There's a perceptual management reason in one sense but there's also a deeper reason in terms of how they get these things across and how they see people react to them because That kind of data mining is at the heart of so much of what we're talking about here in relation to the public's response to this. Our member, of course, looking into the Brookings Institute and their 1963 study. This is something that's very interesting and can pull out of the vault and check out. But they were studying the impact of what the knowledge of ET life would have on the regular public.

1:24:29 This is quite interesting because when you look at it, one of the things that they deduced in the middle of all that is that they would have to create reasons for all this. And so they would have to include it as part of a program or else it wasn't worth really discussing it with the public. And they also came to the conclusion at that point that it wasn't, not only was it wasn't worth it to them, but that the public couldn't handle it. In fact, and so there were forces inside there in 63 that were arguing this. If you go back and look at a different period in time, you can see now there's a Brookings Institute figure who comes out with a book in 2016. And this guy had actually been an Obama official, his name is PW Singer. And just an incredible national defense resume, really there in with the heavy heavies.

1:25:17 And he's writing a book on the ghost fleet, which is all about a war that takes place. It is the exact thing that Rumsfeld was talking about. It's the extension of that vision of a space Pearl Harbor, which is what they felt that they needed in order to bring in all of this advanced technology. Because the technology aspect, if you bring it in and you don't have the story behind it, people start to ask questions like, why were you lying to us for eight decades about this? One, two, where did all our money go that we were funding with these programs? So that when we fund NASA and this whole space infrastructure, and you've just privatized all this with groups like Blue Origin and others, then what? Well, you're in an incredible bind because the public doesn't know anything about the space that you've developed.

1:26:00 Now we talk a lot about the rollout of AI and the impact that it's having as well. When we look at these technologies, we have to understand something, which is they've gamed out scenarios and they've run things in relation to artificial intelligence that have to do with how the public would react, how the consumer would react, and how the economic impact would go, and what would happen to the culture as a result. They've run those tests for decades. So when they go out there now and they're hand-wringing in relation to this about what will AI do, they already know. The same thing with how they've gamed out scenarios around the UFO file. There's always a volatility attached when you get around exotic technology, however, which is something may come up that they didn't anticipate. Something may come up that wasn't part of the plan.

1:26:48 So we've heard about weapons that have been developed in the background like rods of God, for example. These are extreme weapons that have never been in actual use supposedly. And yet if you look, you can see some very interesting telltale signs. I'll tell you about one of them and another very interesting book in relation to this. One of the interesting books that came out around the early 60s was by a guy named Andrew Bonson. He was a scientist and a pilot and a billionaire guy, kind of like a Howard Hughes type. And he put out this book that was all about a small group of very advanced scientists who had realized that with the saucer craze that was going on in the 50s, that they could build one of these advanced machines and then they could bring the Russians and the United States to the peace table.

1:27:37 And this whole thing about can we actually achieve peace by having this advanced technology is in the heart of that book. If you go into this guy's history, he's working with Thomas Townsend Brown on one hand, who is probably the scientist working on the deepest black projects for the government and yet having this mentality of wanting to share it with the public. And he's also working with George Adamski, who, although a huge figure in that era, is kind of thought about now as a fraudster and all this kind of stuff, like, he's a contactee and all the rest of it. So there are pictures and photos that exist of Adamski and his

1:28:17 you'll see one of those crap just sitting in a vat of oil, a small miniature version of this thing. Well, it's quite interesting if you go into the FBI files around Damski and a lot of these early contactee groups, you will find that they were on the hunt for something called the Melchizedek device. And that is the device that could take down these flying craft at a distance. It's the same thing that you'll find in the John Trump, Nikola Tesla interview where they go back and forth about this Melchizedek device. And it's quite interesting to me because they actually bully Adamski at a certain point and they say to him, well, Adamski, you're from Poland. We'll ship you back to Poland if you don't tell us.

1:29:00 what's going on here. And they had tapped his phone. These are J Edgar Hoover's people tapping his phone. And they found out that he had seen a demonstration of what they called the UFO killer. This is the UFO neutralizer. It's a device, not a person. So they would see these things off in the distance and then somebody activates this device, it pulls the craft down. That's probably where we get so many of these crash retrievals and things like that in that period. So this device is very interesting because it was moved around until it landed in a New Age farm beside President Reagan's ranch. And that is the Brother Sunburst farm. I've done a number of episodes about Brother Sunburst that are very interesting. But the crucial link in all this is a scientist who was dealing with the idea of free energy and his name was Bruce DePalma.

1:29:52 I want people to really study this guy and really keep him in mind. He is the brother of the famous director, Brian De Palma. And as we know, we get into the Hollywood connections, the apple doesn't fall very far from the tree as it were. Now when we're looking at Bruce De Palma, what was he saying? He was deep into the question of the UFOs. Many of his papers are all about, this is how they run, He worked with a scientist very early on in Polaroid who had worked inside of the bases who were working on the redevelopment of the UFO technology. Here are some of the effects that they got. These are the so called the apotheum effects. The apotheum effects were time would disappear, any sense of time would disappear, one. Any sense of physicality would disappear.

1:30:37 I remember it was scientists and Professor John Mack over at Harvard here, who said, one of the big problems I have with these abduction cases, and he believed them. He had groups and groups of people he went through, but he said, it's fascinating. It can't be what we think it is because they're getting abducted through walls, they're getting abducted through things. When we look at that, you're seeing a highly different reality distortion physics take place. And this is the apotheum effect. It changes everything. Very often when you hear about these craft landing, you're gonna see nothing ever grows there again. There seems to be something involved there which is entirely negative to living matter. This is the nature of the problem when dealing with this and the interface of it. Very often, the lights go out, the entire town could be plunged into a power blackout.

1:31:27 So this is the nature of what we're looking at when we get around the UFO file and the real deep investigations into it. There's a fluff side, and one of the biggest problems I've had with the UFO field in general is that the researchers aren't deep state researchers. So they don't understand the government. They don't understand assassination. They don't understand the nature of what these things are all about. And so they don't have a very deep field on the UFO side. On the deep state side, they have all those stats. They have deep understanding of government overthrow. They go all the way back to our bends. They go back to these most of dag and all these different things. They understand how the CIA works to overthrow countries. They understand how the Ukraine was overthrown and all the rest. Well, when you get into it,

1:32:13 What you're seeing there is they have that knowledge in detail, but they don't get the UFO file. So the deep state people are missing the UFO file. The UFO file people don't have the depth of the deep state researchers. They understand the UFO file, that's crucial. But that's a really big advantage. If you could combine the knowledge of the deep state people with the UFO file, then you could get into exotic technology. That's your road in. Then you can understand figures like Trump. Then you can understand how John Trump and Roy Cohn are two ends of a spectrum that really drive the Trump presidency. Because Roy Cohn knew where all the dead bodies were in the deep state one, and he understood how the power structure worked. There's a famous story about Roy Cohn

1:32:59 who I refer to as the ultimate swamp creature, in a sense. But one of the stories is he was making a deal with this mobster in New York. And he sent him off and he said, go to California, because the guy had this immigration problem. And he said, I'm going to get shipped out of the country any day now. And he said, go to California, show up at this court hearing. And The guy's like, I don't have a court case in California. He said, no, it's in Los Angeles, it's this courthouse, walk in, say your name and walk out. So the guy does it, and he's a pretty big mafia. So when he figures to himself, Roy Cohn isn't gonna lie to me, what is this all about? So he shows up at this courthouse, he says the name, he walks out. He gets immigration papers that make him a citizen the next day.

1:33:50 So we have to understand the power level and the grip of how this works. It works through the judiciary, it works through economic factors. And also when you get, for example, an enemy of the state, i.e. someone like Alex, you have all the legal warfare that takes place and all the legal warfare against Trump and all these types of things. These are the tools that they will use in relation to this. When you get up to that level when we're talking about AxProtect, things of that nature. They use the exact same tools, and they know how to destroy careers and get rid of people. And there's a long sort of graveyard of people along the trail when it comes to free energy, when it comes to the UFO file, etc. So the acknowledgement of that, bringing that to the fore means those groups don't have the ability to operate in secret anymore. This is the nature of what somebody like Trump, for example, is doing in the middle of all this.

1:34:45 So, and we look at Trump, I have an exhibit there which is exhibit eight, I believe, which we could show there, be fantastic. One of the interesting things we need to understand is that there's a worldview that's in opposition to everything that the populist movement in America is all about, which is regaining freedom. And it's not a left right paradigm. I know that a number of people, even who are trying to get something going with Ron Paul or Bernie Sanders or Trump, it's all the same type of wanting freedom. But this figure here is what sits outside of NORAD headquarters. This is a globe that is surrounded now, surrounding a piece of the actual structure of the Twin Towers.

1:35:36 So what it actually symbolizes is through 9-11 and through these different things, we have taken over the world because we have the ability through the emergency powers to control the world. I think this is a very significant thing when we're looking at it. We need to understand we get into deep events which again, we look at these deep events and understand what are they? What is it that takes place when you have the COVID operation or the Kennedy assassination or 9-11 or Watergate or Iran Contra? They are moments when that deep state structure steps into the public to make a decisive change. Those are the deep events that they need and they're building up to one in Iran right now, I can tell you that.

1:36:18 which is very dangerous play. And it's something that this administration needs to stay away from and really keep a very, very straight face when it comes to not getting involved in a war with Iran. But they are building up to this in relation to that. But the ultimate deep event is the UFO threat. That's the thing that they've been building. And this is what opens us up on the technological side. What's interesting is You see if you go through a lot of those deep events in history that the emergency powers personnel are the people who are involved on name some of the historical figures over time. Oliver North he's the COG setup guy he's developing the doomsday network.

1:37:02 which is something they can only speak over for a certain time with each other. That's a totally secret network and he's using it to arrange arms deals with Iran in order to get money to fight these drug wars in Central America. Well, that same crew, if you go into 2001 are operational completely there. They've come in as COG people activating COG by the time you get to the 9-11 deep event and the terrible things that took place there. You will find the continuity of government Northcom people are involved in every one of these, including if you go all the way back to the Kennedy assassination. And it's very interesting because one of the Secret Service agents involved there in actually setting the trip up for

1:37:46 emergency management for COG back in that period of time. So we need to understand when we're looking at this, that we are looking at a period of of an arc of history that's really controlled by these emergency powers groups. And again, the emergency powers give you what? They give you complete control and they throw the Constitution out the window. And what actually happens, I studied what actually happens when continuity of government gets launched. And let's suppose they launched it through a UFO threat just like the drone wars but with UFOs. And what actually happens is they flip that switch and the North Com commander becomes the complete ruler of the United States. And sets up regional governors to handle everything until, until what? Until they can launch another election.

1:38:36 Well, that could be a mighty long time. Just look at our friend in Ukraine. He doesn't have any elections going on. So we need to be far more aware and have far more investigatory ability into the emergency powers management group of the continuity of government, which after all, runs a vast network of underground bunkers, the so-called DUMS. 70, 80 years, God, maybe even longer. While Eisenhower was building the highways on top, they were developing this incredible infrastructure underground. And I can speak to that because I've spoken to somebody who couldn't tell me exactly because of their intelligence level where it was or anything else. But they described the infrastructure

1:39:20 a city underground, which was basically like had apartment buildings, had malls and everything else. So we're operating on a completely different levels of reality here. When they talk about the advanced technology, when we hear about these things that can defy space and time, or even if a group like Boeing is running commercials during the Super Bowl about space elevators, things of this nature. We can see that the average person on the surface is very disconnected from the things that are happening and that includes in the world of medicine and other places. I've heard Alex talk about life extension technologies on this program and it's very interesting because what happens when we get somebody who has this breakthrough and they're like, hey, you can live to 200 years old now. Well, they dish that out to

1:40:09 the elites on the inside, but they don't want people, they're trying to get rid of people living in nursing homes and gut social security as it is. that's part of the COVID op was about that. They don't want people living till 200 years old, they want to get rid of a large portion of the population. So we need to understand and become a regular, get some kind of stasis going with the power structure versus the average citizen on the ground. Because living in that fantasy world where these things don't exist and they're not dealing with advanced technologies, or the UFO file or their fake

1:40:44 a diversionary story of the UFO file is actually dangerous. Because it leaves us in a place where we're not getting the truth about the UFO file. We're not getting the truth about these advanced technologies, the exotic technologies that change our understanding of time and space. That should be something along with the secret space adventures that is shared with the public because it would be a completely different world. Instead, they feed you all of these divisions and all these different things that we have going on, these wars, the next thing they're building up, a deep event into the Iran situation.

1:41:20 That is exactly how to take the culture back. So and take it backward. The way forward would be to get some answers around these things. That's the first step. And we're starting to see some of this lift off. And I wonder actually what Alex thinks about the era that we're in because He after all has had the comp since at least the year 2000 and maybe before that, but he's been deep into this. And I wonder when he's looking at these changes, it must be really miraculous because he was talking about this stuff. 20 years ago. Daniel, just incredible job hosting here today. And we talked during the break that was while I've been sitting here listening to you. I just didn't want to interrupt you. Just amazing in depth. I knew it'd be even more powerful when I wasn't here interjecting. So thank you so much. We got a few minutes left. I wanted to bring up this little side point. Jeff Bezos has tried to rival Elon Musk and has admitted that he basically completely failed. He has his blue origin. And so Katy Perry and some other, you know, Hollywood people go up

1:42:21 into the edge of space, they're up there for just a few minutes, and then they come back down. And I think they went to space, and I know the world's a globe, round and all that. But then I look at the capsule, the way it's sitting there all perfectly, it actually looks plastic and fake to me right when I first saw it a few days ago. And then you notice that when they pull up, they start opening the capsule. They tell him no, no, no, no, don't and they close it. And then Bezos, the full video is like 20 minutes long, wanders around, they tell him to stay in there. And he comes and just basically touches it and acts like he's opening it. And then it pops open and you look at it and it looks like, you can tell it's like plastic on even cheaper than like an RV. It looks like the

1:43:08 These plastic doll houses for the backyard you buy your daughter, that costs like 400 bucks. And this is just bizarre. And I mean, people know that real capsule doors are thick, they're titanium, they're aluminum, they're steel. You also don't open any of these from the inside. They have back in the days of NASA and still explosive bolts in case they get in the water can't open it. They have to do a code key and blow it open. And so you see like this flapping plastic door that would be the outer bulkhead. Just, this is weird. And everybody sees this and says, what in the hell's going on? So I mean, here they are with the flimsy little door and then they close it and say, hey, close that. And so Bezos can be the hero. Then he falls down, we'll show that footage. I mean, this is just beyond bizarre.

1:44:03 and he admits he can't really get things into orbit. So, I mean, you talk about Keystone Cop, you talk about, and then you have the narrator in the background, this is the most incredible spacecraft on earth. Oh my God, no one has windows that big, it's absolutely incredible. And again, when I first saw it, I meant to cover it days ago, but I'm so busy on some other topics, I didn't get to it. Before I ever watched the video, just when I first saw it, that looks flimsy and plastic, then the door. What in the world do you think is going on here? This is an incredible parade of artificiality. And by the way, that's you doing your classic British accent. I think we need more of that on the grand scale of things. But I would say this, it's very interesting the way they push this. And remember that here they're using women to pull in this imagery as well. What they're also doing is, I pointed out that the actual program for the secret space program inside the deep state is called Blue.

1:45:00 And this is where we get Blue Origin. Bezos is trying to now move his position into space. They got Elon there far ahead of him on this, but he now is becoming the real rival for this whole thing. The actual parade of this artifice though is interesting because in a sense I feel like on one hand they're doing this. But it also is in a sense intended for us to catch on to the fact that it looks fake. And so this is like some of the early stories about NASA is that in 1970, for example, they were passing out their own folders about how the moon landing was faked. Because for some reason, they wanted the story leaked that it was fake. Well, here we are in 2025,

1:45:47 And they want this to come off without a hitch. And they have this whole thing, it's kind of like Oprah in space idea. And-. I mean, it looks like a Gilligan's Island episode. And it's encouraging a kind of artifice, right? It's encouraging you to look at it and sort of tune out. And on the other hand, they know that there's this whole group of people that are staring on this on X and other places and looking at it and saying that's fake. So they're playing into it. And I find that interesting because there is a social engineering perception management that's involved here. And they're also getting you to look at space in this kind of fluff manner.

1:46:27 So that you're getting around what's actually taking place up there. I think this is what's the kind of cultural management aspect that's involved. This looks like a film event to me. It looks like really high end video, but obviously, you know, it's very easy for them to do these things and what, you know, we've seen. I was about to say, you notice when they went around the South Pole and all that, I mean that you see the footage when you're a camera person, you know, it looks real, you know, I mean, this looks like it was shot on 80 millimeter or something. I mean, I mean, this looks like super HD. All of this just has, it just, it's, it's, it's like I saw Hillary have a big town hall

1:47:09 She was running and I said that was staged. I could see it was shot perfect, dust in the air, the faces, and later it came out a year later, it was all fake. I mean, we all know what too good looks like. Oh, there's no question. And we have to look at these things in the era that we're in and say anything can be cooked up. And look at what some of the things that they did in relation to the early space program as they've developed this. They have a long history of faking things. Amazing. Daniel List, darkjournalist.com. Incredible job. Thank you so much. Thank you Alex, great to see you. And that he takes a lot of supplements and feels great, but he didn't really feel it specifically when he took it. Well, that's what happened with me with previous methylene blue. A few times I felt a little bit of energy.