Thursday, 12 September 2024

Reports Of Haitian Replacement Migrants Terrorizing Springfield, Ohio Confirmed! Plus, White House Officially Announces Plan To Bomb Deep Inside Russia, Triggering Major WW3 Alert! — FULL SHOW 9/12/24

Global tensions reach a breaking point as NATO eyes Russian targets while a small Ohio town struggles under the weight of a massive migrant influx.

By The Alex Jones Show | 3h 46m listen | 48 chapters
Reports Of Haitian Replacement Migrants Terrorizing Springfield, Ohio Confirmed! Plus, White House Officially Announces Plan To Bomb Deep Inside Russia, Triggering Major WW3 Alert! — FULL SHOW 9/12/24 cover

About this episode

Alex Jones and Owen Shroyer report on a massive geopolitical escalation as the White House and NATO prepare to authorize long-range missile strikes deep into Russian territory. This shift toward potential thermonuclear conflict coincides with a domestic crisis in Springfield, Ohio, where 20,000 Haitian migrants have reportedly overwhelmed a town of 36,000. The broadcast details the resulting social friction, including eyewitness accounts of animal cruelty and the collapse of local infrastructure.

Local residents in Springfield testify that the influx has caused car insurance rates to skyrocket and pushed disabled citizens off low-income housing lists. Meanwhile, Christian activist Bevelyn Beattie Williams discusses her 41-month federal prison sentence for a 2020 protest, alleging selective prosecution under the FACE Act by New York Attorney General Letitia James. The program also features Dr. Peter McCullough, who presents research on vaccine-induced myocarditis and a spike protein detoxification protocol involving nattokinase and bromelain to combat inflammation.

Alex Stein joins the transmission to analyze the enduring anomalies of the 9/11 attacks, including the collapse of Building 7 and the lack of wreckage at the Pentagon. Guest host Jay Dyer provides a deep-dive into Dr. Joost Meerloo’s The Rape of the Mind, explaining how modern psychological operations use Pavlovian conditioning and intentional contradictions to induce a state of menticide. The broadcast concludes with footage of Joe Biden wearing a Trump 2024 hat in Shanksville, Pennsylvania, signaling a presidency that has effectively checked out.


CHAPTER 01 / 48 Discussion

Alex Jones Pre-Show Reports, Global Conflict and Glenn Beck Podcast

Alex Jones introduces the September 12, 2024, transmission from Dallas, Texas, where he is preparing to appear on Glenn Beck's podcast. He highlights upcoming reports regarding World War III, U.S. support for bombing inside Russia, and investigations into Haitian migrants in Springfield, Ohio. Jones expresses gratitude for listener support before handing the segment over to Owen Shroyer.

alex jones· glenn beck· info wars· world war iii· haiti· russia· dallas

00:00 While other networks lie to you about what's happening now, InfoWars tells you the truth about what's happening next. Visit InfoWars.com forward slash show and support the InfoWars. InfoWars, tomorrow's news today. All right, Chase is over there uploading three powerful reports for the show.

00:38 I was the host of the main show and I just shot three powerful reports. It is 10.07 right now. We just got all this incredible footage and witnesses police reports with the Haitians openly eating cats and giving cat eating recipes and running around decapitating people's dogs and celebrating all the witnesses and police reports and who are being arrested. So the coverups imploded. And we got a bunch of other big reports on World War III and the US openly saying they're going to start supporting the mass bombing inside Russia and more. So that's some of what we've got coming up here. But I just wanted to tell everybody at the very start of the show on this Thursday, September 12th, 2024 transmission, that I'm very blessed to be your host. I'm very honored to be here talking to all of you. I'm very, very thankful for all of your support. So Owen is about to take over here in just a minute for the rest of the segment. When we come back,

01:28 I'm doing the deep dive on Russia, then I'm doing the dive on this big free speech developments, very positive. And then we're gonna get to my big Haitian report and then Owen takes over the balance transmission. I'm here in Dallas to be on the air with Glenn Beck on his podcast that airs tonight. We're working very, very hard right now. So look for all these reports and follow us at RelaxedJones on X. But the fact that this is blowing up their face trying to cover up the Mass hunting and killing of people's family pets, which is standard in Haiti. There's almost no salty forest and they eat everything The attempts covered up plump their face. All right main show is now launched. Thank you so much for watching Please stay with us now over Troyer That's right. Ladies and gentlemen now inside the info Wars world headquarters in Austin, Texas with 53 days 14 hours 58 minutes till the presidential election and that time is gonna fly by

CHAPTER 03 / 48 Discussion

NATO Ukraine War Escalation, Deep State Geopolitics

Alex Jones reports on a Politico article confirming NATO's deep involvement in the Ukraine war and plans for U.S. and UK missiles to strike deep into Russian territory. He characterizes this as a massive escalation toward thermonuclear war and critiques the "deep state" bureaucracy for driving global conflict. Jones argues that the 2024 election is a final opportunity to prevent the U.S. from becoming a failed state like Venezuela.

nato· ukraine· russia· politico· george soros· rand corporation· nuclear war· deep state

05:09 For anybody that researches, we already knew all of this years ago. But now the White House has come out with the Pentagon and a big Politico article and admitted, hey, we're running the war in Ukraine and we're getting ready to start bombing all over Russia with heavy weapons from the United States and England. This is a massive war escalation towards thermonuclear war. This is insane. I'm about to break it down right now. It's Thursday, September 12th, 2024. I'm in Dallas, Texas to go on the Glen Beck show today. We're outside of studios and I've got major breaking news. The mouthpiece of the Obama, Biden, Harris, deep state blob, Politico, put out a detailed report this morning that we reported on really a year ago, but they're confirming it all. The NATO's basically been running the war the whole time, that they are involved in the invasion.

05:59 Now, going back five weeks ago of Ukraine deep into Russia, and that they are gonna be supplying US missile parts and missiles, and so is the UK to start striking deep into Russia. There's already been a lot of drone attacks on Moscow almost every few days and other areas. This is an insane level of escalation. Again, 11 years ago, the West overthrew the Ukrainian government, put in a pro-Western government. started conflicts with the Russian areas in the east, where it's like 99% Russian, inside eastern Ukraine to bring this conflict to where it is. George Soros has been on for Izharkaria eight years ago bragging how State Department started this war. So the West started this war like all the other wars in the last 60, 70 years, almost all of them started by the United States, the globalist.

06:45 And in some of the cases you can say we're fighting bad people. I mean, I don't like communists, but in this case, America has become satanic beyond communism and Russia is trying to protect itself. And this is so dangerous in the RAND Corporation's threat escalation ladder that leads up to nuclear war. We're getting very close. in the war games the Pentagon and RAND Corporation have had that are public towards nuclear war. Mainline analysts admit that. The International Association of Atomic Scientists have been around since the 50s. Their doomsday clock is with the closest World War III or thermonuclear war we've ever had. This is insane. And we don't even know who's running the White House. Biden's constantly on vacation. He just came off three weeks of vacation. Kamala's done one interview on CNN and the debate. She's totally scripted.

07:30 We don't even know exactly who's in control. We know it's the bureaucracy, we know it's the deep state, and we know that they want expanded war and they know And we know that they want open borders here and are destroying our currency and are enslaving us. It's not Russia censoring us. It's not Russia surveilling us. It's not Russia trying to castrate our sons and cut our daughters' breasts off. It's not the Russians that are devaluing the dollar. It's not the Russians that offshored our jobs. It's not the Russians that propped up the Communist Chinese the last 50 years. It's the criminals that have hijacked our country. And this election, as Trump has said, is the most important ever. And we basically are doomed to not having free and fair elections after this. We'll be like Venezuela if we don't get Trump in with only 54 days out. So we're covering this all live on the air at infowars.com forward slash show, Bandop video and Real Alex Jones on X. We're also gonna be covering some other huge topics on the show today. The dam has broken.

CHAPTER 04 / 48 Discussion

Springfield Migrant Reports, Elon Musk Brazil Free Speech Battle

Alex Jones details reports from Springfield, Ohio, alleging that 20,000 Haitians have been moved into a town of 36,000, leading to social friction and alleged animal cruelty. He transitions to international news, praising Elon Musk for resisting judicial overreach in Brazil. Jones highlights an open letter from academics and leaders condemning the ban of X and the seizure of Starlink equipment by the Brazilian government.

springfield· ohio· haiti· elon musk· brazil· x· starlink· free speech

08:27 There are now dozens of local newscasts, hundreds of police reports coming out, hundreds of eyewitnesses and videos of the Haitians killing cats, killing dogs, cooking them, killing geese, killing ducks. And people just saying it's like Day of the Dead. It's totally insane, including a lot of black folks that are freaking out, okay? Because the town was 36,000, they brought in 20,000. So now it's 56,000. I mean, that's over a third, that's coming up on like 40% or so, 35% or more of the population just came there the last few years under Kamala and they're bringing more and that's a microcosm of the rest of the country and the Western world. It's how to attack. We'll be breaking all of that down coming up. There's a lot of good news as well. Another news update that I'll be doing.

09:06 hundreds of top academics and more joining and just respected leaders from every field and free speech experts are coming out and supporting Elon Musk and saying what Brazil's doing is total tyranny, grabbing companies that aren't even part of X and just really piratical behavior. That's very exciting because free speech is coming back into style. People are learning to defend it again as one of our most precious rights and freedoms. And Elon Musk is a real champion on that. So we can stop this World War III. We can stop our open borders. We can stop all this tyranny. It's all illegal. It's wildly unpopular. We can stop the human smuggling, all the missing children. We can find them. We can save them. We can bring those that are behind this, Mayorkas, Biden and their controllers, and Kamala, the borders are, to justice. But we've got to make that a center point as well. Stop World War III. Secure the border. Find the missing children.

CHAPTER 05 / 48 Discussion

Global Free Speech Movement, Brazil X Ban Condemnation

Alex Jones discusses the trending news of hundreds of academics and journalists signing a letter to the Brazilian Congress to restore X. He criticizes the Brazilian Supreme Court's actions against Elon Musk's companies as "piratical behavior" similar to North Korean tactics. Jones cites Mark Twain to emphasize the eventual victory of truth over state-sponsored censorship.

elon musk· brazil· x· free speech· mark twain· censorship· starlink· supreme court

12:50 But Elon Musk has stepped up in the last few years and is now the global ambassador of free speech, not just the First Amendment in America. And now, breaking, it's trending on X, it's trending all over the place, it's huge news. Hundreds of academics, journalists, and political leaders have signed an open letter to Brazil's Congress condemning the nationwide ban of X. They call the move a dangerous escalation in global censorship trends. The letter urges the government to restore free speech and halt judicial overreach. That corrupt guy that is a Dracula impersonator, the Supreme Court Justice. Alejandro or Ali Alejandra. He is on record Saying that he doesn't believe in free speech and and he's kept his account on X and still uses it But they charge people up to nine thousand dollars or they catch using it and they've banned VPNs And now they're there they're grabbing other companies that Elon Musk is involved with that are totally separate companies Like Starlink equipment and other things literally like pirates. So this is so dangerous. It's so illegal and stuff You'd see right out of North Korea

13:53 But the good news is people are starting everywhere to value again free speech as a paramount issue. That's why I'm here on Limbeck's show today to talk about free speech, how we're rediscovering it, how exciting it is. So great job Elon Musk, great job everybody else been defending free speech and standing for it. I was the main test case where they openly said if we can sell people on censoring Alex Jones six years ago, the world will accept it and like a house of cards it'll fall, free speech, or like dominoes it will fall. Humanity is waking up and the truth is coming out. It was Mark Twain that famously said, in the beginning, a patriot's a scarce man hated, feared, and scorned. But in time, when his cause succeeds, the timid join him because then it costs nothing to be a patriot. And we're at that point. Mark Twain also said, a lie goes halfway around the world before the truth puts its pants on. But in the end, the truth almost always wins. So we're seeing the worm turn. We're seeing the great awakening, challenging the great reset, and it's

14:48 It's just amazing and I want to just thank the viewers and listeners of Infowars and the crew and everybody because you are the heart of the resistance worldwide against tyranny and the heart of the promotion of free speech and so much more. So read the letter, Rolox Jones on X, and promote it and share it because this is what it is to be an American. This is what it is to be a pro-freedom advocate. This is what it is to be free. The first one becomes first because it's the most important. The second is there to defend it. God bless and thank you so much for your support. All right, so much to unpack here. And I mean, I would just say quickly, you go back to the debate on Tuesday night, Donald Trump correctly calls out Kamala Harris's stance. It's not an official policy. She put up policies for the first time on her website less than a week ago. But those don't even matter. She has said a dozen times she wants a mandatory gun buyback. It's gun confiscation. Oh, but we'll give you some money. Well, what happens if I don't want to sell the government my gun?

CHAPTER 06 / 48 Discussion

Kamala Harris Gun Policy, Second Amendment Rights

Owen Shroyer analyzes Kamala Harris's stance on firearms, labeling her proposed mandatory buybacks as "gun confiscation." He argues that Democratic policies undermine the inherent right to self-defense by imposing restrictive storage laws on law-abiding citizens. Shroyer claims these policies render the Bill of Rights meaningless to the current administration.

kamala harris· second amendment· gun confiscation· mandatory buyback· self-defense· bill of rights

13:53 But the good news is people are starting everywhere to value again free speech as a paramount issue. That's why I'm here on Limbeck's show today to talk about free speech, how we're rediscovering it, how exciting it is. So great job Elon Musk, great job everybody else been defending free speech and standing for it. I was the main test case where they openly said if we can sell people on censoring Alex Jones six years ago, the world will accept it and like a house of cards it'll fall, free speech, or like dominoes it will fall. Humanity is waking up and the truth is coming out. It was Mark Twain that famously said, in the beginning, a patriot's a scarce man hated, feared, and scorned. But in time, when his cause succeeds, the timid join him because then it costs nothing to be a patriot. And we're at that point. Mark Twain also said, a lie goes halfway around the world before the truth puts its pants on. But in the end, the truth almost always wins. So we're seeing the worm turn. We're seeing the great awakening, challenging the great reset, and it's

14:48 It's just amazing and I want to just thank the viewers and listeners of Infowars and the crew and everybody because you are the heart of the resistance worldwide against tyranny and the heart of the promotion of free speech and so much more. So read the letter, Rolox Jones on X, and promote it and share it because this is what it is to be an American. This is what it is to be a pro-freedom advocate. This is what it is to be free. The first one becomes first because it's the most important. The second is there to defend it. God bless and thank you so much for your support. All right, so much to unpack here. And I mean, I would just say quickly, you go back to the debate on Tuesday night, Donald Trump correctly calls out Kamala Harris's stance. It's not an official policy. She put up policies for the first time on her website less than a week ago. But those don't even matter. She has said a dozen times she wants a mandatory gun buyback. It's gun confiscation. Oh, but we'll give you some money. Well, what happens if I don't want to sell the government my gun?

15:53 Well, it's a mandatory gun buyback. Okay, so that's gun confiscation. And she has called for the banning of assault weapons, an ambiguous term, and then she just says, well, it's a weapon that can be used to kill a lot of people. Well, you can do that with a knife. I can do that with a baseball bat. So it's all about taking away the Second Amendment, and it's just, it kind of just becomes this ceremonious document that means nothing, the Bill of Rights to the Democrats. It means nothing to them. So she lied, she does want gun confiscation. She does want to take your firearms. Should be an unelectable offense to say that one time, she said it a dozen times. But it's more than just the sacred right to bear arms. It's the right to self-defense, where the Democrats want to pass laws that say, they've already done this in some states.

17:01 where your firearm in your vehicle has to be separated from the magazine and from the ammunition. So the firearm itself has to be in a locked compartment, and then the magazine and the ammunition has to be in a separate locked compartment. So that way when a carjacker or a rapist comes up to a woman in a vehicle, holding her up at gunpoint, at that point, liberal democrat logic, that's when you ask your mugger, that's when you ask the carjacker, That's when you ask the rapist, excuse me, can I get five minutes to get my firearm assembled and defend myself? So it's not just the right from God in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights to possess firearms. It's the right to self-defense. It's the inherent right to self-defense. If a bad guy comes at you with a gun, you should be able to have a gun to defend yourself should you so choose. Okay.

CHAPTER 07 / 48 Discussion

Election Integrity Concerns, 2020 Voter Fraud Allegations

Owen Shroyer predicts that a Harris administration would ban platforms like X and Rumble to control information. He compares the 2020 election results to the steroid era in Major League Baseball, suggesting that the high vote counts for both candidates were "synthetic" rather than organic. Shroyer emphasizes that the 2024 election will be decided by the ability to prevent illegal voting.

voter fraud· 2020 election· kamala harris· donald trump· x· rumble· major league baseball

18:09 And then they come after the First Amendment too. If Kamala Harris gets in the White House, X and Rumble will be banned. I think that that's probably a fair estimation, a fair prediction to make. They will ban X and they will ban Rumble. The two platforms that probably have the most traffic at this point that aren't controlled by the liberal left Democrats, they will ban them. Absolutely. Absolutely. Now, here's the problem, and I've got all these videos, and we do political talk, current events, news, we respond to the developments, and then we counter the fake news narrative or we just straight up counter the propaganda. Well, we can talk about the debate and all these policies, but at the end of the day, what we're really up against is voter fraud and election fraud. And most people understand that now.

19:15 And that's why there's all these different lawsuits going on in 12 different states. And Democrats are trying to keep illegal voters on the rolls when Republicans are trying to purge them. It's all gonna come down to voter fraud, folks. It's all gonna come down to can the Democrats have enough illegal votes for Kamala Harris to beat the legitimate votes for Donald Trump? It's exactly what they did in 2020. It couldn't be more obvious. I always make this comparison, but it's just the truth. For 60 years, I think it was, or 50 years in Major League Baseball, no player hit 60 home runs. It was like 100 years and then it was like another 50 years. No player ever hit 60 home runs. And then you had two players break the record in the same season. So you say, well, gee, that's an anomaly. What's going on? Well, they were using steroids. Some say that's cheating.

20:15 So okay, they were cheating. That wasn't a natural event. You didn't have two players go over 60 home runs for the first time in 50 or 100 years. Well, the first time ever two players in the same season going over 60 home runs and then getting to 70. That wasn't a natural organic thing. It was synthetic. It was enhanced. You don't have two candidates for president both breaking the record. Donald Trump got the most votes of all time in 2020, oh, so did Joe Biden. Now, I don't want to pontificate on that. The point is that that's what we're up against. We're up against massive voter fraud. Yeah, I can sit here and play the videos and I've got them. The average Kamala Harris voter probably has an IQ of like 75, but a political IQ of like two. And you can ask, hey, what's her policies? Well, golly gee, I don't know. Well, why do you like her? Well, she's brat. Well, what the hell does that even mean? Well, I don't know, but she's a woman.

CHAPTER 08 / 48 Discussion

Coastal Elites vs. Middle America, Small Town Impact

Owen Shroyer critiques "coastal elites" for ignoring the impact of mass migration on small towns in flyover country. He argues that liberal policymakers are destroying the lives of average Americans by forcing third-world migration into communities like Springfield, Ohio. Shroyer characterizes the elite attitude as arrogant and totalitarian.

coastal elites· middle america· flyover country· springfield· ohio· illegal immigration· class warfare

21:21 So I can play these videos all day long. Now, I'll play some of these now, but look, this story in Springfield, Ohio is so big now. And look, hey, good for Springfield, Ohio that most time, if this, you know, when it goes on in New York and Chicago, people tend to care more because it's a big city, it's a coastal city, whatever the coastal elites, they like covering these things. When it happens in middle America, flyover country, nobody seems to notice. So good for the people of Springfield, This is happening in other cities. I guarantee it, but it's time for the American people to see what the Democrats are doing, what border open borders are Kamala Harris is doing, bringing in the third world country into your small town. And these coastal elite liberals can sit here and look down on flyover country and scoff at middle America. But you know, I would say this to those, what are the middle class folk, the average Joe America,

22:27 and fly over country in middle America, what are they doing that hurts you? What are they doing that impacts your life? And the answer is nothing. You, the coastal elites, You, the liberal elites, you're the ones that are destroying their lives. You're the ones that are ruining the average American lives with your bad policy, your coastal elitism, and now flying in the third world country into their small towns. So they're not bothering you. They don't want to bother you. They want nothing to do with you. And now here you are from your ivory tower, the coastal liberal elite, and you're destroying small town America. And you just can't help yourselves, can you? The smug, arrogant, entitled, liberal elite dickhead wants to sit in their ivory towers and smell their own farts and lick it up.

23:30 What has middle America ever done to you? What is the average Joe American that lives in flyover country ever done to you? What have they ever done to try to affect your life? Nothing. And you sit here and you scoff at them and you look down on them and you ruin their lives. In fact, everybody knows, you're not even liberal. You're not liberal at all. You're a totalitarian. You're a control freak. You're a nanny state minion. So we'll have more on this situation with the illegal migrants coming up. But let's go ahead and I mean, you wanna see how dumb Kamala Harris voters are? And so that's the problem. In fact, this is why I asked the crew to bring me this story as I'm going long here. But they have this canned press statement ready to go from Taylor Swift, probably most popular musician, artist in the world, it's true. And they have this canned press statement

CHAPTER 09 / 48 Discussion

Taylor Swift Political Endorsement, Low Information Voters

Owen Shroyer dismisses Taylor Swift's endorsement of Kamala Harris as "state-run propaganda" and critiques her call for voter registration. He presents a clip of a voter who supports Harris because she is "brat" but cannot name any of her accomplishments. Shroyer argues that voters who cannot pass a basic civics test should not participate in determining the country's future.

taylor swift· kamala harris· vmas· brat· civics test· voter registration· endorsements

24:36 After the debate with a photo of her cat because everybody knows, it's pet animal videos are neutral and everybody likes them. So just 100% state propaganda from Taylor Swift. What a shame. A small town girl comes up, middle America doing concerts throughout flyover country. And now she's just turned into another coastal elite douchebag. And they have this canned press statement Like, oh gee, I watched the debate and now I really like Kamala. Taylor Swift did not watch the debate, okay? Taylor Swift doesn't know a damn thing about politics, but it's all this canned state-run propaganda. So they own Taylor Swift now, the biggest brand in the world. Oh, but I'm Democrat, I'm liberal, I'm progressive, I'm anti-establishment. Sure you are. It's like the biggest

25:30 The biggest names in these Hollywood entertainment industries, the Foo Fighters, Dave Grohl, Taylor Swift, they're all owned by the state-run media Democrat Party. But you're anti-establishment, bud. Keep believing that. All the big industrial corporate brands, but, and you're with them, and you love the federal government now too, but hey, you're anti-establishment, bud. So they have this planned, canned press statement from Taylor Swift, like she watched the debate, now she likes Kamala. And then she comes out last night with their dead awards ceremony. People actually used to care about this stuff in the 90s and early 2000s. Used to be the MTV Music Video Awards, then it was the VMAs. I think they still call it the VMAs. Nobody watches anymore, nobody talks about it anymore, nobody cares anymore. Again, it's only the dumbest of the dumb. It's people that will go to the trough and eat slop with the pigs. Basically what it is now, it's just slop they put in the trough for their pigs.

26:35 So, oh, she watched the debate, she likes Kamala. And then, oh, she gets her award at the VMAs and she says, we gotta vote, we gotta vote, everybody register to vote, it's so important to vote, oh my gosh. And I'm sorry, but that's wrong, actually. And I've gone long here, but let's just go ahead. You wanna see a clip of the type of people that vote for Kamala Harris? Go ahead and roll clip three. So, um, you keep saying that Kamala Harris is a DEI candidate and I feel like my main fallacy with this argument is that competency can't be objectively determined. What's her greatest accomplishment as vice president? As vice president? Being the first female all-black president. We've never had that before. No, no, no, like, I got that, but like what's her accomplishment that made people's lives better? I don't know. Vice presidents don't really do much, to be honest. Can you name one thing she's done that's good?

27:27 No, probably not. Oh, so see this? That's what they do. They get low or no information voters and they all vote Democrat. And they say, go vote, go register to vote. Look, I'm Taylor Swift. Actually, no, you shouldn't vote. If you can't even pass a basic civics test, you don't know the three branches of government, you don't even know an accomplishment or what the vice president does, actually, you shouldn't vote. You're part of the problem. We certainly don't claim to be doctors, but InfowarsMD can prescribe a wide variety of supplement formulas to help you stay healthy in an ever-growing toxic world.

CHAPTER 10 / 48 Discussion

Detailed Analysis of Springfield Ohio Migration

Alex Jones provides a deep dive into the demographic shift in Springfield, Ohio, claiming 20,000 Haitians have arrived in three years. He alleges that the migrants are involved in animal cruelty, voodoo practices, and causing a spike in car accidents. Jones accuses the corporate media of covering up the reality of the situation while locals face the consequences of the "invasion."

springfield· ohio· haiti· voodoo· deforestation· military age men· animal cruelty· corporate media

28:56 Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us on this Thursday edition. We've had some massive developments about to break down here for you on the Alex Janos show. Stalin said that when one man dies, it's a tragedy when 10,000 dies is statistic. And he was absolutely right. He was an evil genius. People don't care about 10,000. It's too big to think about. But one person tragically dying or being robbed or killed or a child being hurt gets people's attention. So we've had 25 million illegal aliens brought into the country, replaced with migration under the Biden-Harris regime.

29:45 And that's hard to get your mind wrapped around. You see the homeless and the illegals everywhere. They give all these free goodies and huge caravans smashing across the border. But when you focus on a place like Springfield, Ohio, and it's 36,000 people just three years ago, now it's 56,000. 20,000 Haitians, mainly military age men, for the most backward voodoo, Cursed place on earth no dogs cats you can find they eat them all Deforested it's on record. Look it up deforestation Wildlife gone hate they bring them in they get $3,000 a month federally a thousand locally They buy cars no driver's license and they just run around wrecking the insurance rates are more than double that killed a bunch of people on record

30:29 And the corporate media, the enemy of the people tells you nothing's happening. They tell you it's made up, kind of like the governor of Colorado said two weeks ago. There are no Venezuelan gangs taking over apartments. It's a fantasy, remember? Fantasy. But of course they had to later admit it's worse than what we even said. So now, today it was trending top of X. patients eating animals, patients eating pets. And I couldn't even watch them all. Hundreds of videos, police reports, arrests, women in people's driveways just eating live cats, blood everywhere, being arrested, admitting she ate the cat. killing people's dogs, eyewitnesses, the geese. But the most important thing is the robbing, the stealing, the raping. And then we have locals, black, white, Hispanic, old, young, talking about what this is like. So I'm gonna play you some clips here. And I'm posting my real-life shows on X, the full clips, or it'd be two hours long, of what's happening. And just remember, during the debate just Tuesday night, she laughed at him and said, this is crazy, this is fantasy land. There's nobody eating people's pets.

31:33 See, people don't care if school buses get run into and kids die. That's just what the illegals do. But they do care if somebody's pet your teen. That really hits people. People care about dogs and cats more. On average, they do than people. That's how we've been trained to not stand up for human life. How we've aborted 65, 67 million kids in this country. Now we have partial birth abortion after the day they're born and they keep alive and sell the organs. So this has really got people's attention. Trump needs to stay on this. They try to have the corporate media debunk it so the Republicans will stop talking about it, call it racist. Ladies and gentlemen, Haiti is probably the most horrible country on earth. And we have witnesses who had Haitian parents will play one where they admit that they eat the cats not just for food, but in voodoo they believe they get the magic powers of the cat if they devour it live. That's what I've been telling you. I've read books about Haiti. I've sent a crew there. I'm not gone myself. I mean, it is like Viggo Mortensen's movie The Road based on that novel that's fiction or it's like something out of

32:34 In the real world, it's hard to compare anything to it. I mean, it is that hellish. It's like a zombie apocalypse. They have real human cannibalism there, admitted. Elon Musk, I criticized for pointing out that the main leader there now is a cannibal leader. So this is wild. So they're trying to suppress this, but it's failed. Just like their failure to suppress speech has failed, their failure to expose the open borders failed, the human trafficking has failed. They're still doing it, but their attempt to cover it up has failed. And so continue on, we are the media, you are the media, we are the populace, we are the majority, not just here but around the world and we're going to win. More live reports coming up, Owen Schroer and Morca hosting today. I'm on the road, popping the reports, I'm doing Limbec's top podcast today that will be airing tonight.

33:20 I'm on some of the other great shows like Alex Stein and who else Chase? Sarah Gonzalez. Sarah Gonzalez. So look for all that. Infowars.com forward slash show. Follow me on Instagram Alex Jones. But keep getting these videos out and retweet the ones that I have on my ex account because the system is scared of the truth coming out. This is coming to a head. People are finally getting this. This is a total invasion. Replace the migration. We'll talk to you soon. Thank you. Ain't no joke. It's not funny. I really do not feel fucking safer bro. Like everyone on TikTok, on Facebook making these jokes to get everything fucking funny. Like imagine you be a homeless for a whole fucking year for no fucking reason. Like what the fuck? This shit is not fun. This shit is not cool bro. They really out here to capitate animals and y'all are making jokes out of it. Imagine if you went outside and you saw your motherfucking

CHAPTER 11 / 48 Discussion

Eyewitness Accounts of Haitian Migrant Activity

The segment features various audio clips and testimonies from residents and individuals with Haitian backgrounds. One speaker explains the cultural context of voodoo and survival in Haiti to explain reports of animal consumption. Another resident claims to have witnessed police pulling over a van containing over 100 cats intended for consumption.

springfield· ohio· haiti· animal sacrifice· voodoo· eyewitness· police reports· tiktok

32:34 In the real world, it's hard to compare anything to it. I mean, it is that hellish. It's like a zombie apocalypse. They have real human cannibalism there, admitted. Elon Musk, I criticized for pointing out that the main leader there now is a cannibal leader. So this is wild. So they're trying to suppress this, but it's failed. Just like their failure to suppress speech has failed, their failure to expose the open borders failed, the human trafficking has failed. They're still doing it, but their attempt to cover it up has failed. And so continue on, we are the media, you are the media, we are the populace, we are the majority, not just here but around the world and we're going to win. More live reports coming up, Owen Schroer and Morca hosting today. I'm on the road, popping the reports, I'm doing Limbec's top podcast today that will be airing tonight.

33:20 I'm on some of the other great shows like Alex Stein and who else Chase? Sarah Gonzalez. Sarah Gonzalez. So look for all that. Infowars.com forward slash show. Follow me on Instagram Alex Jones. But keep getting these videos out and retweet the ones that I have on my ex account because the system is scared of the truth coming out. This is coming to a head. People are finally getting this. This is a total invasion. Replace the migration. We'll talk to you soon. Thank you. Ain't no joke. It's not funny. I really do not feel fucking safer bro. Like everyone on TikTok, on Facebook making these jokes to get everything fucking funny. Like imagine you be a homeless for a whole fucking year for no fucking reason. Like what the fuck? This shit is not fun. This shit is not cool bro. They really out here to capitate animals and y'all are making jokes out of it. Imagine if you went outside and you saw your motherfucking

34:09 You saw your dog's head decapitated on the fucking ground. Why y'all think this shit's a joke? It's not a joke. I don't feel comfortable walking anywhere. Like what the fuck? I should be able to feel safe in my own city. Everybody's fucking homeless out here. And shit, the fucking scary ass Haitians is lurking and creeping and shit. Y'all thinking this shit's a motherfucking fight. I keep making this shit up. This not made up, bro. This shit is real life. This shit is really affecting me. Like what the fuck? My father immigrated from Haiti to the United States in the late 60s as a teenager. And I want to talk about these recent comments about the Haitians in Springfield, Ohio. First, I want to say my father and I are now estranged, but I did know him in my very, very young years. And when he immigrated, he was one person and they weren't sending, you know, thousands of Haitians in one area.

35:06 He wasn't eating people's pets and he didn't practice voodoo. But he did say that most of the island, the majority of the island does practice voodoo. The reason they eat cats is for two reasons. Number one is survival. This is the poorest country in the Western Hemisphere. You can't just go to a food bank like you can here or just go to McDonald's and get some free or cheap food. Unless of course there's a Christian missionary there. People in the United States have a really hard time imagining that type of thing, but it is true. Second, they do do animal sacrifices for their religion, voodoo. They make these animal sacrifices to these gods for different reasons. You can do your own research on this. Do I think voodoo is a demonic religion? Yes, I do. That doesn't mean, obviously that doesn't mean that you hate these people.

35:58 These people need prayer, but you can't just take over all these people from another country and expect it to work. Not to mention it doesn't fix the problems of that country. And there's more people left in Haiti that we can bring over. It's not racist to acknowledge that this is a problem. It's not racist. to talk about these things that are happening. This is not just white Americans saying this is black Americans. You can look at the people in Springfield, Ohio saying that this is happening. Y'all just wanna joke about Trump and say that he's crazy for saying that this is happening instead of actually checking at all to see if this is happening.

36:38 You want to make jokes about these things. Well, what if it were happening to you and your community? And no, it's beyond eating their pets, even though that is bad enough. We've lost a whole bunch of cats. There was a van, a van pulled over that had over 100 cats in it with the Haitians. They said they was eating them. Actually? Yeah. Not fake news. Not fake news. A van was collecting cats and eating them. I watched it happen, yeah. Watched them get pulled over with the cats and admit to the police that they was eating them. You're not joshing with me. No, I'm almost 50 years old, buddy. I don't, no. You don't mess around. No. What did you do? Why'd you kill the cat? Smile for me. Smile. Go like this. Did you eat that cat? Did you eat it? No. Why'd you kill it?

CHAPTER 12 / 48 Discussion

Congressional Inaction on Migration, Speaker Mike Johnson

Owen Shroyer calls for congressional hearings into how thousands of Haitian migrants were transported to Springfield, Ohio. He criticizes Speaker Mike Johnson as "spineless" and "worse than Kevin McCarthy" for failing to use the power of the purse to secure the border. Shroyer argues that formal investigations are needed to expose the corruption behind the migration policies.

mike johnson· mayorkas· save act· congress· springfield· ohio· immigration hearings

40:24 trying to prop up his poll numbers. Congress is back in session. There needs to be a hearing, definitely with Mayorkas. I don't know, maybe you even call Kamala Harris up, the borders are, and say, you need to be here for this. Let's get down to the bottom of it. How 15,000 Haitians end up in Springfield, Ohio in less than a year. Let's get down to the bottom of it. Let's find the rabbit trail of travel,

41:04 expenses, the travel itself, the room and board. Let's get down to the bottom of how tens of thousands of Haitian migrants end up in Springfield, Ohio, and Columbus, Ohio, and that greater metropolitan area. Let's get down to the bottom of it. There need to be hearings right now. But see, you've got inept speaker Mike Johnson playing games with the SAVE Act and the continued resolution. The whole thing is a joke. He's turned out to be worse than Kevin McCarthy. So I got news on that, but he's just, he's spineless to do the right thing. And that's part of the problem is that most of Congress is pretty much just worthless. Why are there no investigations into how these Haitians ended up there? And you say, well, we know how they ended up there. We have a wide open border and it's part of the policy. Yeah, I understand that. Laying it out for the American people to see, getting it all down on record,

42:12 in congressional testimony, it can change the awareness level. And it just exposes how corrupt it all is. But okay, let's dial it back. And it's not just Springsville, Ohio. And I was sitting here, because I mentioned this in the opening segment, and I didn't know what Alex was going to put into his report. I had some of those videos already. But I didn't know what Alex was going to put into his report. And I was going to bring up this TikTok trend. And look,

CHAPTER 13 / 48 Discussion

Economic and Social Collapse in Springfield Ohio

Owen Shroyer discusses the practical collapse of local systems in Springfield, Ohio, due to the migrant influx. He claims that car insurance rates are skyrocketing due to unlicensed drivers and that the education system is being slowed down to accommodate illiterate adult migrants. Shroyer contrasts the "funny" TikTok trends with the "realness" of residents losing their quality of life.

springfield· ohio· car insurance· hospital beds· welfare· driver's licenses· tiktok trends· education system

42:51 Again, it's all bells and whistles. So I mean I can sit here and and even debate whether it's positive negative for Donald Trump that his Statement during the debate about them eating cats and dogs is now the most viral trend on tik-tok and you got like Olympic athletes doing it you've got Supermodels with millions of followers doing it. I mean, it's it's like the number one thing and And it's this weird thing with TikTok, and I don't really do trendiness, so I don't really... Like, I never did an ice bucket challenge or any of this crap. But it's like this weird thing with trendiness where people just like, oh, this is the trendy thing, so I gotta do it. And a lot of it is just, you know, like a popularity contest, like attention-grabbing, like, oh, I need the views, whatever. But I mean, when you have gold medal Olympic athletes doing this, you have top, like, Victoria models, Victoria's Secret models, millions of followers,

43:52 And they're doing this trend of the Trump, they eat the cats and dogs dance video. I mean, it's number one. So I'm sitting here, I'm like, well, is it good? Is it bad? I don't know. But if you hear that woman's testimony and she's crying, see, that's the realness. Smiling and dancing and goofing off to a viral TikTok trend. I mean, whatever, have fun. I don't even care. But it's like, really, it is offensive. Really, that is offensive. These people in Springfield are

44:28 They're having real issues. You understand? Their schools are being overwhelmed. They have 21 year olds in the high schools and middle schools because the average Haitian IQ is 65. And so they're basically bringing these Haitians in that are illiterate and then some of them end up in the school system. You have grown men, grown men going to school in middle schools and high schools, overwhelming the system. And then what is the teacher supposed to do? Well if the Haitian can't keep up with the curriculum I guess the curriculum has to slow down for the Americans, doesn't it? You've got Haitians coming into Springfield, Ohio Sick and diseased they immediately go to the hospital all their health care is paid for by the US taxpayer the government

45:32 All subsidized, and they just go right to the hospital. And they take up a hospital bed, and they take up a nurse, and they take up a doctor. Their hospital systems are overwhelmed. These Haitians don't know how to drive a car. They have a whole system in place. Because you gotta understand, when the government just throws money into a situation like this, everybody figured out how to get their cut. Everybody wants to get in. So these Haitians are getting welfare checks for thousands of dollars.

46:09 These car dealerships are on to this phenomenon and they go out and they find these Haitians and they say, look, we'll sell you a car. You don't need credit. You don't need proof of insurance. You don't need a driver's license. You don't even need to speak English. Just come with that check for a down payment. And then after that, most of them are just putting the loans off to the banks. So the car dealerships don't even care. If the Haitian can't make the payment, the bank takes the hit. But see, they'll catch on real quick too because half these cars end up totaled within a month. So it's going to collapse the whole system. You understand? So these car dealerships take in these Haitians and they basically are just, they walk them through the process, they take them to the bank, they get the loan, they give them the car. If you're an American, you need a driver's license, you need proof of insurance, you need two proofs of residence, or you cannot purchase a vehicle. But if you're a Haitian,

47:16 That the Democrats just flew in that can't read, can't write, can't drive, not a citizen, here illegally, everything is taken care of for you. And then it overwhelms the system. You can just sit out on a busy street block in Springfield, Ohio, you're gonna witness a car accident. The independent reporters that have gone out there are already doing it. Folks, we just played the one guy who's wearing the hat. He's sitting there recording an interview, there's a car crash that happens right behind him. It's insane. So then what happens? The car insurance rates go up. The price of cars go up. You can't get into a hospital bed. Your daughter in eighth grade is sitting next to a 21-year-old man. The price stinks. So, oh, and then they're eating Sparky, your pet dog. Or you go down to the park with your kid, and one of them has a dead goose he's dragging off by the neck. So hey, look, cool.

CHAPTER 14 / 48 Discussion

Critique of Modern Liberalism and Voter Competency

Owen Shroyer delivers a critique of the modern Democratic base, citing Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Taylor Swift as examples of leaders promoting ignorance. He argues that the founding fathers were "genius" for requiring property ownership or civics knowledge for voting. Shroyer expresses frustration with "low IQ" voters determining national policy based on social media trends.

aoc· taylor swift· civics· property owners· founding fathers· liberalism· voter drives

48:28 Trump they're eating the cats. They're eating the dogs number one trend on tik-tok. This isn't funny This is the collapse of our country you have open borders and a welfare state that equals economic collapse All being done by design and we sit here and make jokes about it And we sit here and make jokes about it, and so that's what's so frustrating and then you have these no information low IQ Liberal Democrat voters, they don't even know a single Kamala Harris policy. They probably don't even know the three branches of government. I mean, hell, their leader AOC doesn't even know the three branches of government. She didn't even know that food grows out of the ground. Literally, she didn't even know that until she visited a community garden in New York City and she said, whoa, did you know that you can grow food out of the ground? Amazing.

49:35 No, you go out and ask, this has been done with man on the street interviews. Literally, you go out and ask a liberal Democrat where food comes from, they say the grocery store. Well, it comes from the store. Yeah, but where does it come from? The store. And then they do these voter drives with Taylor Swift. Make sure you register to vote. No, I don't want some 30 IQ liberal Democrat that doesn't know the three branches of government, doesn't know where food comes from,

50:12 Can't cite a single one of the Bill of Rights, doesn't know the year the country is funded, probably doesn't even know who the president is. Hey, go vote, go vote, go register to vote. You don't know a damn thing about squat, but hey, you should be voting. No, I don't want the future of my country to be determined by idiots. And that's what goes on. And so you see what the Democrats do, they do this whole thing, they've been doing it for years. The founding of the country was racist. You had to be a landowner. The system was racist. You got to pass a civics test to vote. No, actually that was genius is what it was. It was genius because the property owners bear the brunt of the tax burden. Because we don't want ignorant morons going and voting because they saw a thing that said Kamala Harris is a brat.

51:25 Literally, that's what it is. Literally, that's what it is. I thought I sent you guys the video of the woman saying she's voting for Kamala because she's a brat, but I don't see it on the list. So no, you shouldn't go vote. I'm sorry. When Taylor Swift tells you to go vote, she's wrong. If you can't name a single founding father, I mean, these people probably couldn't even name 50 states. They probably couldn't even name 10 capital cities. They probably don't even know continents.

52:11 They don't know the Bill of Rights, they don't know the Constitution, they don't even know a single one of their local representatives. They don't know a Kamala Harris policy. They just know Kamala Harris is Brad. No, you shouldn't vote. Sorry, shouldn't vote. Yeah, there it is. They found it. Great job, crew. Let's go ahead and take that to break. Kamala Kamala, how come because she's brat. What does that mean? Google it? No, but I'm at you right here I'm asking you a brat is a girl who's a little bit messy. She likes to party So only cuz she's a woman basically or what? I think she has actually really good policies I think Kamala would actually make this country a better place Whereas I think Trump would make been in office for years sad. Have you seen his 2024? agenda thing

CHAPTER 15 / 48 Discussion

Dr. Peter McCullough on COVID-19 Vaccine Myocarditis

Dr. Peter McCullough discusses his research into COVID-19 vaccine injuries, specifically myocarditis and heart failure in young people. He argues that the spike protein from the vaccine causes significant inflammation and blood clots. McCullough promotes a detoxification protocol involving natokinase, bromelain, and curcumin to help the body clear the spike protein.

peter mccullough· myocarditis· spike protein· natokinase· bromelain· curcumin· vaccine injury

52:58 twenty five twenty four jenna yeah he came out with that mean project twenty five yeah he's he said he doesn't associate with that all night in his He does associate with agenda 47. Yes, exactly. COVID vax causes more heart damage than COVID virus and brain blood immune cancer reproductive study. I mean there's so many studies. What do you make of that? This finally settled the question, Alex. The COVID vaccine causes myocarditis in young people, not the infection. It's a government false narrative. It's been propagated through the American College of Cardiology and other agencies. that the infection causes myocarditis. It doesn't. Looking at this, then, we see these headlines constantly when you follow the article. There's no link. There's no proof. It just says COVID's a greater risk of heart problems than the shot, and they just lie. It's a, essentially, it's a giant medical lie perpetrated by the American College of Cardiology, the CDC, the NIH.

53:51 This is a false narrative. No confirmed cases by adjudication or autopsy. No hospitalizations and deaths. But the vaccine, we are, I'm a cardiologist, Alex. I am knee deep in people with vaccine myocarditis causing heart failure. The vaccines do cause heart arrhythmias in some. It's inflammation in the heart, atrial fibrillation, sometimes ventricular arrhythmias. COVID shots can enlarge and weaken the heart. Another study. Heart failure can be an outcome of subclinical myocarditis. It's very important for people to realize they may not feel chest pain initially, but then they have the onset of effort intolerance,

54:28 a pulmonary edema, congestion and leg swelling. I have cases from Austin, Alex referred up to my office. It's vaccine myocarditis and heart failure. They need treatment for this. The go-to is McCulloch protocol base spike protein detoxification with supplements of available through onlinehealthnow.com. Onlinehealthnow.com. We have ample data now suggesting every cancer is increasing worldwide in virtually every organ system and it's related to COVID-19 vaccines. Now I'm glad Dr. McCullough that you brought up how to detox either whether you got COVID in the wild which you know is a lot less from the studies bad as taking the shots but if you want to detox

55:10 from it. You're one of the top research doctors out there, one of the, if not the most published. You have actually developed something, come up with something available at onlinehealthnow.com that you're saying is the go-to here. Spend a few minutes telling us about that anti-spike protein protocol. It's the base of what we do now in long COVID and vaccine injury syndromes. It's caused because of accumulation of the spike protein from the infection and in a massive doses from the vaccine, it gets stuck in the human body. We need to assist the body in clearing the spike protein. We have several years of observation, multiple peer-reviewed publications on this, very good support for doing this. It's natokinase.

55:54 which is a natural enzyme derived from the fermentation of soy. Japanese discovered it. Bromelain, a family of enzymes derived from the stems of pineapple. And then lastly curcumin derived from turmeric and Indian spice. These are all in capsule format. We give them in combination in between meals and we're using accelerating doses. People are doing this across across the world right now, Alex. So you build up? And we build up. Now listen, the starting doses were 2,000 units twice a day of NADO. We're now going to 4,000 twice a day. We do give them in addition to blood thinners. And we have found sometimes it's the only way to dissolve the blood clots. When people get large vaccine blood clots, the blood thinners just hold it steady. They don't dissolve them. We actually have to give thrombolytic enzymes. That's McCullough protocol-based spike protein detoxification.

CHAPTER 16 / 48 Discussion

Local Resident Testimony on Springfield Housing and Driving

A local resident of Springfield, Ohio, provides testimony regarding the preferential treatment of migrants in low-income housing lists. He claims his disabled brother was pushed back on a waiting list to accommodate Haitian arrivals. The resident also describes witnessing migrants receiving driving privileges at the BMV without proving competency, leading to frequent accidents.

springfield· ohio· low income housing· driving privileges· bmv· haitian migrants· disability benefits

56:42 And people can find out all the details of that at onlinehealthnow.com. That's the go-to place. The wellness company provides, you know, really the leading quality and the leading formulation. So the spike formulation has not only natal kinase but five minor ingredients. We combine that with the curcumin and the bromelain for what we think is the ultimate spike detox trio. Onlinehealthnow.com. So here's the realization I think a lot of people are having and it's long overdue, but guess what? The mainstream media lies to you. These so-called fair and balanced neutral moderators are also part of the state-run propaganda. And don't expect your government, don't expect your local representatives to tell you the truth either. They've been covering up this Haitian story in Ohio for months. Here's one local resident breaking it down, clip 10.

57:37 Well, I am a resident of Springfield, Ohio, and it is not fake news. There is an issue with them. If we have in our local park, they literally have ducks down there that the park takes care of, and it's where they live. And they are being killed and eaten in As far as people's personal pets, I've heard stories but I can't answer to that personally because I don't know. But I can tell you because this is a car channel, I do car content. I can approach this story from the car issue. When I say that, I mean their driving issues. They, and I've witnessed this, they literally

58:33 And they have to have a translator wherever they go. They literally have been in the B&B where, like, I go and get my license plate renewed. And it's also where you get your license, obviously. And they literally have a translator, and they show up with a piece of paperwork. They grant them driving privileges with no proof that they can actually drive, just that they're of age. I guess I'm driving privileges for 45 days and 45 days they can go back and renew it and never have to show proof of their how competent of a driver they are we can't. And the accidents that happened in here in this town or crazy stories and I guess said I witnessed some of this some approaching this from a car aspect.

59:29 I mean there's been fatalities from them not really I'm going to give you one example and then I'll get off here.

1:00:15 He's in a low-income apartment complex and they were building new homes. They're attached to each other, they're not like apartments. They're all single floor because he can't get up and down the stairs, so he has to have a single floor deal with a scooter, a mobile scooter and stuff. But anyways, he had been on this waiting list for this new housing development for low-income and disabled people. And he checked periodically and see where he's at on the list, because they'll tell you, you know, you've got so many people ahead of you. And he pretty much knew where he was on the list, and he was getting close. This last time he called and checked on it, they gave him a number. And he's like, well, that's not where I was before. It looks like I went backwards on the list. Why? Well, I guess the Haitians, for whatever reason, for whatever political umbrella they are here under,

1:01:16 got pushed to the front of the line. So now my brother has to wait even longer because of the Haitians. And they're not disabled. They're getting special preference for housing that really should be, I hate to sound bad, but it should be for a U.S. citizen first. And then like they can go and move into the apartment complex that my brother's trying to get out of. Time 99, Alex Stein on the grind. There he is, ladies and gentlemen. This guy's crazy. He's got a lawsuit going in the city of New York against the city council censoring him. He was on the ground yesterday calling out 9-11 for being an inside job false flag. He joins us on the Alex Jones show now. I wanted to start with your lawsuit and the free speech issue.

CHAPTER 17 / 48 Discussion

Alex Stein on 9/11 Truth and Media Lies

Comedian Alex Stein joins Owen Shroyer to discuss the importance of questioning the official 9/11 narrative. Stein argues that the 9/11 attacks were used to implement the Patriot Act and a domestic surveillance state. He references his interactions with Vivek Ramaswamy and Laura Trump regarding the redacted 28 pages of the 9/11 Commission Report.

alex stein· 9/11· vivek ramaswamy· laura trump· tucker carlson· patriot act· epstein list

1:02:32 But you do have the iconic, what used to be, skyline of New York City behind you. You know, this is one of the great things that you've been able to do as well, not just kind of penetrate the political world with your comedy, but You brought up the 9-11 issue to, I believe it was Eric Trump or maybe it was Laura Trump you brought it up to. You've been able to bring it up on mainstream news interviews that you've done and then yesterday on the ground. To me, and I said this yesterday on my show, Alex. I think the 9-11 issue is actually the most important issue. I think it's even more important than the Epstein list. And I think if we got the truth about 9-11, it would have the greatest impact, better than even the truth about the Epstein client list. What do you think? You've been pushing this into the mainstream for a couple years now.

1:03:25 Well, Owen, thank you for having me. And yes, you know, the clip I think you're referring to is I asked Laura Trump and I asked my biological stepfather, Tucker Carlson, but the clip that went viral is I asked Vivek Ramaswamy if he believes the government lied about 9-11. And he said, yes, he does believe that. And he referenced a 28 pages redacted from the 9-11 commission report that we speculate, you know, shows Saudi Arabia's involvement, maybe Israel's, we don't know because the are redacted. But my point is when it comes to 9-11 you are exactly correct. I mean the Epstein list should be great but so many people died and after the Epstein thing we didn't get the Patriot Act where now they have warrantless search and seizure of our phone calls and they can say that we're domestic terrorists yet they'll let in as many Haitians as they want eat all of our house cats in Ohio. So I don't know I do think it's very important because what this did was this created a

1:04:16 domestic surveillance operation and took away a lot of our, you know, Bill of Rights in the process. Not to mention the multi-trillion dollar spending that we've had in the Middle East with the military-industrial complex and for what? It hasn't benefited us at all. It hasn't helped lead to any peace at all. And so, here's where I kind of stand because I was saying this yesterday. My question is, Where does the average American stand on this? For me, when I had people try to bring up, let's say 9-11 conspiracy or truth, however you want to say it, for years, I would just kind of slough it off. I'd say, oh, you're crazy. If any of that was true, the media would tell me, right? I'd hear it on the news or the government would tell me, obviously. This was while I was still asleep in a trance, caught up in the sports matrix.

1:05:06 And so then once I saw the media was lying and our politicians were lying, for me it was 2012, then it's like, okay, you start to revisit all this stuff and you realize, oh, well, gee, I mean, maybe they did lie about 9-11, they lied about this. So we've been lied to so much in recent years, it's been so obvious. I mean, just look at the recent story with the migrants, the Haitian migrants in Springfield eating the cats, eating the dogs, eating the geese. They said, nope, that's not happening. Well, it is happening. So people are saying, oh, gee, they lied about that, they'll lie about everything. In 2001, it would be unpatriotic. I think it's how people were, they were scared. They didn't want to question 9-11. It would be unpatriotic. They couldn't believe it. It was such a deadly attack, such a devastating attack.

CHAPTER 18 / 48 Discussion

Cognitive Dissonance and 9/11 Conspiracy Theories

Alex Stein and Owen Shroyer discuss specific anomalies in the 9/11 attacks, including the collapse of Building 7 and the lack of visible plane wreckage at the Pentagon and Shanksville. They discuss the "cognitive dissonance" that prevents the average American from questioning the government. Stein notes that even left-wing figures like Rosie O'Donnell once questioned the official story.

shanksville· pentagon· tower 7· larry silverstein· rosie o'donnell· charlie sheen· flight 93

1:05:46 Where do you think we're at now? Do you think the average American that probably like me for years would have discounted 9-11 conspiracy theories trues? Do you think the average American after realizing how much the media lies, the government lies, do you think they're ready to revisit 9-11? Do you think they're ready to accept we were lied to about that? Well it's kind of weird Owen because you know this if you ever bring up flight 93 most people the flight that crashed in Shanksville Pennsylvania which is kind of weird that Joe Biden you know it's not weird that he's there but he puts on a Trump hat there that was just that was insane but going back to 9-11 even if you ask just a normal person they'll say oh that plane was probably shot down

1:06:26 But sadly, the cognitive dissonance is so strong that the people know the government lies to us. They know that there are different levels of classified information that a normal citizen will never be privy to, yet they still trust the government. So I really and truly, after I did this speech, I had a there's a friend of mine. He's 20 years old. He goes to Pace University. He's just a big fan. He's helped me film videos. He was in class. Him and I were going to go film a video after. And I showed him that. And he's born and raised in Manhattan. He's like, why would you say that? 9-11 was so bad. He had no idea not only of the conspiracy but he didn't even know the official story that George Bush and Condoleezza Rice were both briefed in August less than a month before the terror attacks and warned that hey there's this plan to fly planes into buildings. Now the conspiracy theorists in me thinks oh well they were warned and they just disregarded that knowing that the

1:07:16 plan at the end of the day was going to invade Iraq and make sure the project for new American century was signed. So I just, the official story doesn't make sense. So I'm actually worried that young kids don't know. They know the meme, 9-11 was an inside job, but they don't know about Larry Silverstein. They don't know about Tower 7. So sadly, I think just like the Trump assassination that happened just the other day, got memory hold, 9-11 is gonna get memory hold too, sadly. You know, you just brought up, I'm pretty sure it's basically mainstream news reports now that Israel had intelligence of 9-11 and just didn't share it with us. And they play this game where they say, oh well,

1:07:56 Because the way Bill Clinton set up the intelligence agencies, they weren't able to share information with them. I mean, give me a break. If you know there's about to be a massive terror attack that's gonna kill 3,000 people, you're gonna sit here caught up in bureaucratic red tape and not gonna stop it? Give me a break. But I'm pretty sure it's mainstream news now even that Israel intelligence stood down on September 11th and had knowledge of the attack. But to me, that's just half the story. Clearly, clearly it was a bomb that hit the Twin Towers. Clearly there was a controlled demolition aspect on all three of the buildings that went down that day. I mean, you know, people want to have this debate and it's like, don't believe your own line eyes. Well, where's the plane in Pennsylvania? Where's the plane that hit the Pentagon?

1:08:42 But somehow people can't even come to that truth. They can't even look at the video of the Pentagon. There's clearly no plane. And they just, so they can't even deal with that. But you know what it reminds me of? There's the movie and it's a great movie, but this is kind of what it's like. And I think this is maybe how, you know, some of these corrupt government bureaucracies or deep state agents or I mean, even secret societies, if you want to say, It's like the Nightcrawler movie where they know something's gonna happen. They know something's gonna happen, but they let it happen because, well, hey, I'm not involved in it. I'm just here filming it, you know? I'm not involved in it. I'm just here with the plan afterwards to what to do afterwards. So it's like there's definitely a Nightcrawler aspect to this where they at least let things happen because they've got plans afterwards.

1:09:32 Well you know it's called problem reaction solution you know they already have the solution so you know they love when a problem happens I mean Hillary Clinton said never let a good disaster go to waste I mean I might have misquoted her but that's basically what she said. So yeah no they like bad stuff to happen but when it comes to the Pentagon the most secure building in the world it had a thousand cameras pointed at it they give us three frames and you don't even see a plane in that frame and just the uh The fact that these untrained pilots were able to do maneuvers that even the most skilled pilots say that they couldn't do. These terrorists, some of them had their home address was at one naval base. None of this makes sense. And then on top of that, we all blame it on Saudi Arabia, but we went and invaded Afghanistan. So this isn't even conspiracy. This is just like, wait, Saudi Arabians did this according to the official story. Yeah, we went and fought a war with Afghanistan. So

1:10:24 I don't know. I think people just not calling myself smart but I think people are too stupid to even connect those dots or they just don't want to connect those dots. It's like a homework assignment they don't want to do. And really 9-11 should be something that's studied in college classes and there should be debates about it. But I don't think that'll ever happen. But this is how I know 9-11 is an inside job or conspiracy. Even that pig Rosie O'Donnell, no disrespect I'm not that thin myself, she was a 9-11 truther. She was going around talking about how Marvin Bush, George Bush's brother, owned the company that did security in the Twin Towers. She was the one, you know, screaming and crying about it. So if that loony leftist believes it was an inside job, it probably was an inside job. So I don't know. I just, I am losing hope because there's not enough celebrities. Even then we at least had Charlie Sheen, Rosie O'Donnell, tons of celebrities saying this doesn't sound right. But now it's just.

CHAPTER 19 / 48 Discussion

Psychological Operations and Trauma-Based Mind Control

The discussion shifts to how the government uses traumatic events for "trauma-based mind control." Owen Shroyer compares the visual propaganda of 9/11 to the fear-based messaging used during the COVID-19 pandemic. They speculate on whether Donald Trump holds "dark MAGA" secrets regarding the truth of the 9/11 attacks in New York City.

psychological operations· trauma· donald trump· twin towers· pentagon· boeing· mind control

1:11:16 kind of forgotten. People have moved on. Well and that's why I dedicated a lot of my show yesterday to it, I'm dedicating a segment with you because it can't be moved on from because we still don't have the truth and again I think it's so powerful. I mean the optics of it and then the propaganda afterwards and then the wars and then the never forget and it's like all of it and when you realize that it's all based on a lie But see, there's a level of it that just shows this is how the propaganda works. I mean, it really shows how powerful the propaganda is where, like you said, it was Judicial Watch that had to file a FOIA request to get one video of the Pentagon that day. And it's a shot right where the wall gets blown up. And I share this on my ex account. It's been seen millions of times. And Alex, people watch that video and they say, oh yeah, there's a plane. And I'm just like,

1:12:12 How are you there? What, how does, how is the propaganda so powerful? I guess you tell a lie enough it becomes a truth. How is the propaganda so powerful that you can sit there and your eyes can see there is no plane, but you say yeah, that's a plane that hit the building. Well it's kind of like David Murr saying well we talked to the city manager and they're not eating cats. So people see that on TV and they believe it because most people aren't on Twitter like you and me and most people aren't searching this stuff out. So if they tell them something on the TV whether it's David Murr in a debate or it's anybody you know talking about 9-11 people just believe it. They say oh well this is a socially acceptable narrative so this is what I'm

1:12:53 going to say. They actually don't think for themselves. They have these thoughts basically implanted through their brain through brainwashing like repetition like you just stated where. They don't even want to know the truth. People don't want to know. People don't want to get into it. And that's where I'm just so frustrated because for me, you and I are about the same age, when I watched those towers go down, that was like a snuff film, watching those people die, people jumping off the 92nd floor. It was incredibly traumatic. I would argue one of the most traumatic moments in my life, seeing my dad cry for the first time as a young kid. My dad never cried. I never saw him cry.

1:13:29 And I remember seeing him crying on 11 being like, what the hell? And that was the first time I ever felt really vulnerable. Even though I was only 14 at the time, I still felt very vulnerable. And that's just the sad reality that you and I had to go through that. And now we're 23 years later where a lot of society is older, they don't care, and too young to even be a part of it. So I'm happy that you're going to talk about it. I'm going to continue to talk about it. But until we get somebody to admit something happened, that's why we need Donald Trump, who said on the day of the attacks that he thought there was bombs there because he saw the explosions in 1993, and that they were able to withstand those explosions. So unless Donald Trump declassifies all the JFK stuff and declassifies the 9-11 stuff,

1:14:12 I don't know how we're going to ever change the narrative because of the mainstream media creating it and obviously they lie because that's in their best interest. Well, I do wonder if Donald Trump himself isn't a 9-11 truther. And I mean, I guess part of me kind of like hopes that that's like his deepest, darkest thing. And like that was the most personal thing to him being in New York City helping building that skyline Knowing friends that worked in that building. I mean hell from his own penthouse. He stared at the Twin Towers every day So part of me kind of hopes like what is the real dark Magga? Donald Trump still trying to get revenge for 9-11 like to me. That's like the real dark Magga But I don't know maybe that's just

CHAPTER 20 / 48 Discussion

Operation Northwoods and Symbolic Rituals

Alex Stein references Operation Northwoods as historical proof of the CIA's willingness to stage attacks. He analyzes George W. Bush's behavior during the 9/11 attacks, specifically the reading of "My Pet Goat," suggesting it contained symbolic or ritualistic elements. Stein expresses a sense of hopelessness regarding the depth of government deception.

operation northwoods· george w. bush· my pet goat· illuminati· david rockefeller· satanic ritual

1:14:56 wishful thinking, but he did say, we played the interview yesterday, he did say his natural instincts were to say that yeah, there were bombs that blew up that building. And to me it's clear, you know, there was a, the Ukrainians flew a drone bomb into a Russian skyscraper just a couple weeks ago, I don't know if you saw it, it was last month. It looks the exact same. It literally looks the exact same of the planes going into the Twin Towers. I mean, it's clearly a bomb, but that's what's so crazy. It's like, no, don't believe your own lying eyes. The government told me it was the plane. The media told me it was the plane. And so we'll kind of round it back to today. But this is what's crazy, because this shouldn't be a partisan thing. But, okay, you had Bush and Cheney in the White House at the time, right? And then they launched all these wars in the Middle East.

1:15:41 That's what got Obama elected was being anti Bush Cheney wars in the Middle East The liberal left would say that Dick Cheney was one of the biggest war criminals of all time if not all time Now he endorses Kamala Harris and they want to throw him a parade that shows you how finicky these people are now They love Dick Cheney and everybody jokes about Dick Cheney how he shot his friend in the face got us in all these unnecessary wars and now they're happy that he's supporting a Kamala Harris that just shows you how and Like it's just, it's just none of this makes sense. And you don't even have to go that deep. You can go just below the surface, like very below the surface. And then all of a sudden you start hearing things and seeing stuff. And just like the video you're showing, the words that they're saying is so crazy. He's saying, hit, kite,

1:16:47 kite, steel, almost referencing the attack as it's going on. This is one of the most insane, I don't know if you have the audio for this video, but you know this video, you're playing it on your program, but this is one of the most insane, we're talking about not crazy conspiracies, knowing that they found the passports, knowing that we started a war with Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia, but now if you want to get into the weird conspiracies about it, David Rockefeller is pictured with nine, his watch was set to 9-11 when he was taking this picture talking about them breaking ground on the towers and that picture is taken in 1967. And then the conspiracy of this when George Bush is in this classroom and they're saying weird words like hit, plane, steel, kite. Get ready. Yes, kite. Get ready. Yes, kit.

1:17:38 60 on page 153. And then the fact that they whisper in his ear and they don't even pull him out of the thing. I mean, that's like you don't have to cause a panic, but it's like, Mr. President, we got to take you out here. We may have just had a terror threat. And he stays in the room to finish the book reading. I mean, come on. And that book is called My Pet Goat. I mean, what the hell? What kind of Illuminati ritual are we doing? They love to worship goats. They like bafflement with the devil's horns. And it's... This is... We're getting in the woods of the conspiracies, but this is what makes it interesting because it doesn't make any sense that they wouldn't just rip him out of that classroom. He sits there and reads a book, My Pet Goat. It was almost like he was doing some sort of satanic ritual. And, you know, call me crazy, but I've seen too much stuff

1:18:25 to believe that these people aren't sickos that will murder people and kill people just to create trauma-based mind control so that they have more power over their population. I mean, look at the pandemic. 9-11 was terrible the pandemic was terrible they don't care these people care they want to keep doing it they're looking for the next psychological operation that they can do on the American people. But because they have cell phones now they can't really fly planes into buildings and speaking of this is a pre plan thing operation north which is a declassified so CIA plan to hijack planes in a crash into their own building so we can start a war with Cuba so I mean.

CHAPTER 21 / 48 Discussion

Future Psychological Operations and 15-Minute Cities

Alex Stein predicts that the next major psychological operation will involve an aircraft disaster to discourage global travel and push people into "15-minute cities." He cites the recent death of a Boeing whistleblower as an ominous sign. Owen Shroyer agrees, suggesting the globalist agenda aims to confine the population to "pods" where they consume "bug meat."

15-minute cities· boeing· whistleblower· pandemic· travel restrictions· world economic forum

1:19:01 I'm just very, very hopeless sometimes, Owen, with all of this insanity that we live in. And just, I don't know what I'm going to do. I don't know what I'm going to do sometimes. I guess I just try to worry about the things I can't control. And I try not to wake too many people up. I know Infowars has woken me up. I know I've tried to wake people up. But unless you want to be awake to this, It won't work, you know, the brainwashing is too strong. Because really I became a professional broadcaster in 2011 and so you start to meet a bunch of different people and that's when really some 9-11 truthers and you know, the media's lying to you and stuff tried to try to get me on that train. Before that maybe it was just friends and family but then it's like once you see it for yourself, for me it was the media lying and after the Boston Marathon bombing, the FBI, the CIA lying, the media covering up, it was just like oh my gosh this is all a lie.

1:20:04 And then it was just like, okay, what else is a lie? Let's go back in time. Let's look at everything. So it has to be something organic. For a lot of people, it was the pandemic. But see, you just hit it. That's such a key aspect because what's coming next? It's all this psychological warfare beating you down. There's the twin towers, they've fallen. There's the twin towers on fire. There's the plane blowing it up with the bomb. And it's just the powerful optics and then the propaganda and then the war on terror. And oh, these people want to kill you. And they put you in that trauma-based mind control. And then still to this day, you can watch a video. Clearly there's no Boeing 747 hitting the Pentagon. I mean, the thing doesn't even have enough... The mark in the building isn't even long enough for the wingspan. I mean, you can go on and on for days.

1:20:51 And then it's the same thing with the pandemic. Oh my gosh, look at the shows on TV with all the red numbers going up and the death and the death count and then the people in the hospital beds and oh my god. And then they hit you with that trauma-based mind control and then boom, they hit you with the vaccine that gives you the heart attack. I mean, that, so it's like, What's the next psychological operation? But the good news is once you've broken it, you never go back. You know, it's like being able to read a foreign language or something or like understand a foreign language. It's like once you get it, it's kind of always there. And so now you can recognize it like you know immediately, oh, I'm not getting that vaccine. So I mean, it just kind of becomes a learning process. But I would say for you, you say, well, you know, what do I do? You know, for me,

1:21:38 I just changed from sports to politics. I feel like for you, you've just kind of like become the insanity. I mean, right? You go to the thing and you dress like a nurse and you do the weird COVID vaccine dance with the hand sanitizer or you know, you go out and you do your... So to me, I mean, I look at what you've done and I'm like, well, you've kind of just become the insanity to kind of bring people into your content and then you kind of bring them along on some of the other stuff. Well, listen, you're exactly right. I'm like Nightcrawler. I'm trying to do problem reaction solution like they play at their own game. And that's why I try to go create the news. Like when I go to the city council meetings. But, you know, this is an X up that I'm really worried about. And, you know, this is why I say you can't worry about the things you can't control. But, you know, I fly nearly every week and I'm about to get on a plane. These Boeing planes, one of them, and I hope I'm wrong, is going to crash soon. They're going to do a plane crash. Why?

1:22:31 I guess they want people to not be encouraged to travel. They want to keep us in our homes. But they're going to do something with one of these airlines and then the airline's going to go out of business. I just, I think that is the next. quick psychological operation that there is going to be and I hope and pray to God this does not happen an aircraft disaster in the future in order to scare people from traveling and then they'll create some other psychological operation a new pandemic or something else will happen and people will be like well I'm done with those airlines and And we'll just stay home and live in their quote unquote 15 minute cities that they basically want us to live in. So I am worried, like that's why I do get worried because I fly. I think there's going to be, and I hope I'm wrong, I say this, I keep saying it, I think there's going to be a disaster in the sky.

1:23:17 uh... set and there's just too much for shattering killing the boeing whistleblower because we're in a time of the homicidal i wasn't suicidal i mean it was a time bomb is not sure that suicidal so anyway it's just has very scary and and uh... my mom got caught up in the pandemic and i'm always worried that i can get caught up in the next operation that they're trying to run on the american people you know i've got a similar I think my path to the thought was a little bit different, but the conclusion was the same. They don't want you flying anymore, right? They don't want you traveling the country or the world anymore. They want you to get used to the aspect of a 15-minute city, and then after that it'll be just endless.

1:23:57 in the pod and they'll just have a little tube that runs the bug meat right to you in the pod. But you know, you get your Netflix subscription right there on the screen in your pod for you. And that's how you're supposed to be happy. But you're saving the planet from climate change is kind of the ultimate backdrop that they want you to have. Like, oh, I'm a hero, I'm saving the planet. And you're like a fricking warmed up corpse living in a pod with bug meat coming through a tube. That's the Noval Harari New world order agenda, world economic agenda. Alex Stein is my guest. I want to ask him about Joe Biden's Trump hat on the other side of this break. The year is 2030. The World Economic Forum's agenda unfolds, ushering in an era where AI seeks to dominate. In this world of steel and algorithms, there's a ray of hope for humanity. It's bodies from Infowarsstore.com. This revolutionary blend of ancient herbs and modern science stands as a symbol of resistance. It's not just about combating inflammation.

CHAPTER 22 / 48 Discussion

Boston Marathon Bombing Inconsistencies

Owen Shroyer and Alex Stein briefly discuss the 2013 Boston Marathon bombing, noting inconsistencies in the live reporting and the strange details surrounding the suspects' capture. Shroyer mentions that even a Netflix documentary highlighted the gaps in the official story, which served as a "red pill" moment for his own political awakening.

boston marathon bombing· fbi· cia· netflix documentary· 666 broadway· tsarnaev

1:24:52 It's about making your body feel invincible in the InfoWar. Visit InfoWarStore.com and order yours before the sale is terminated. And Alex Stein is my guest. We're going to find out what he thinks about Biden's Trump hat. We've got the video quickly though, just because I got a couple of messages in the break. You know, there's, well, Oh, and what are you talking about with the Boston marathon bombing? Well, again, you have to understand. I'm not even, I'm not even reaching any conclusions here. I'm caught up in the sports matrix. I'm not in the political world. I don't watch any news. I mean, literally zero. I don't follow current events, nothing. I'm just in the sports world, sports broadcaster. And so it was the first time for me where it was like a sporting event meets

1:25:31 I guess you might say current events, the Boston Marathon bombing and then I'm there covering it. The same energy I bring to politics I brought to sports. So I'm just obsessing over this thing and none of it added up, none of it made any sense. So I'm just sitting here watching this not making any sense. I'm like, what the hell is going on? And it just rewired my whole brain. The reporting on the Boston Marathon bombing in live time was so inconsistent that even Netflix did a documentary on it. Netflix did a documentary on it, that's how bad it was. So I'm just sitting here saying, hey, none of this adds up so it must be corrupt. Again, I'm not trying to go into a long winded thing here, but to bring it back to today, I think that this is kind of happening even with this Haitian migrant invasion story. When they say there's nobody eating geese, there's nobody eating cats, and then it's all right there documented evidence and they say, gee, well, this is strange, what else are they lying about? So just responding to some people saying, what do you mean about the Boston Marathon bombing?

1:26:29 I'm not telling you what's reached conclusion wise. I'm just saying the reporting on that was so inconsistent and didn't add up at the time. Even Netflix did a documentary on it that just came out recently. So I just saw that because I'm just somebody with observational discernment. And I'm like, well, okay, what else going on here? This is weird. And now the rest is history, you might say. I'm hosting the Alex Jones show with Alex Stein. Okay, but we've got the Biden Trump. I have to comment on the Boston bombing real quick. You know, there is a bunch of weird stuff with the Boston bombing. We don't need to get that deep. But maybe the great production crew could see where Sarnoff dropped the bomb. I believe it was like 666 Broadway. I forget the name of the street. It's one of the main streets and it just

1:27:12 So happened to be dropped at the 666 was the address. Very weird. And then the way that they were able to hide in a boat when you had the entire FBI and Boston Police Department chasing him. Obviously the Boston bombing was real. I'm not saying it was fake, but it just, there was a lot of weird conspiracy surrounding it. And I would encourage anybody that is actually interested, that's a rabbit hole that I think is definitely worth investigating personally. 100% and I would even say that's probably just more close to a nightcrawler situation, but yeah It's funny you mentioned some of the exact stuff that had my ears perked when I was looking into it like well This doesn't make sense or what are the odds of that?

1:27:51 And so again, I mean, even folks, Netflix does a documentary like, hey, this stuff didn't add up. I mean, 10 years later or whatever, but that's how incongruent all the reporting was. And again, anybody with any discernment or observation skills would just say, hmm, I'm gonna question that. But okay, and maybe we should question what happened with the Biden Trump hat situation. Now, we've got probably the best video that I've seen yet. HD, pretty decent audio. So let's play this video. I want to get Alex Stein's reaction. And so this is Biden. He actually left the 9-11 memorial event early to go to Pennsylvania. I guess they were supposed to be trying to win over the state for Harris. It goes entirely wrong. The event he goes to is filled with Trump supporters. And then he eventually dons a Trump hat. But here's how that went.

CHAPTER 23 / 48 Discussion

Joe Biden Wearing a Trump Hat in Pennsylvania

The hosts review high-definition footage of President Joe Biden donning a Trump hat during a 9/11 memorial event in Shanksville, Pennsylvania. Biden is seen joking with Trump supporters and smiling while wearing the "Trump 2024" cap. The segment explores the irony of the sitting president wearing his opponent's merchandise.

joe biden· donald trump· pennsylvania· 9/11 memorial· campaign trail· viral video

1:27:12 So happened to be dropped at the 666 was the address. Very weird. And then the way that they were able to hide in a boat when you had the entire FBI and Boston Police Department chasing him. Obviously the Boston bombing was real. I'm not saying it was fake, but it just, there was a lot of weird conspiracy surrounding it. And I would encourage anybody that is actually interested, that's a rabbit hole that I think is definitely worth investigating personally. 100% and I would even say that's probably just more close to a nightcrawler situation, but yeah It's funny you mentioned some of the exact stuff that had my ears perked when I was looking into it like well This doesn't make sense or what are the odds of that?

1:27:51 And so again, I mean, even folks, Netflix does a documentary like, hey, this stuff didn't add up. I mean, 10 years later or whatever, but that's how incongruent all the reporting was. And again, anybody with any discernment or observation skills would just say, hmm, I'm gonna question that. But okay, and maybe we should question what happened with the Biden Trump hat situation. Now, we've got probably the best video that I've seen yet. HD, pretty decent audio. So let's play this video. I want to get Alex Stein's reaction. And so this is Biden. He actually left the 9-11 memorial event early to go to Pennsylvania. I guess they were supposed to be trying to win over the state for Harris. It goes entirely wrong. The event he goes to is filled with Trump supporters. And then he eventually dons a Trump hat. But here's how that went.

1:28:41 Presidential hat. Presidential seal on it. You gonna autograph it? Oh sure I'll... Huh? Yeah. You remember their name? I don't remember my name. I'm Slaw. You're an old fart. Yeah, I know, man. I'm an old guy. And you're an old fart, right? I know you would know about that. About what? About being old. No, I'm not. All right. I'm a young timer. You know, Harry Mines was the guy I grew up with. There was always one in his neighborhood. Well, you're the only one.

1:29:18 There you go, man. I need that hat. You want my autograph? Hell no. You know my name. Come on. I ain't going that far. Yeah. There he goes. And a round of applause. He puts on the Trump hat with a smile. All right. I've got some interesting takes on this that I haven't seen anywhere else. But I want to get Alex Stein's reaction. Remember, this is after Donald Trump said, by the way, by the way, Biden, I want to let you in on a little secret, hates her, okay? He hates her. So okay, next day, Biden puts on the Trump hat. Your response, Alex Stein?

CHAPTER 24 / 48 Discussion

Analysis of Biden's "Checked Out" Presidency

Alex Stein and Owen Shroyer speculate that Joe Biden has "checked out" of his presidency following the "coup" that installed Kamala Harris as the nominee. They argue that Biden's jovial behavior with Trump supporters shows he is no longer interested in the politics of the administration. Shroyer suggests the country is safer when Biden is not actively governing.

joe biden· kamala harris· coup· commander in chief· secret service· senioritis

1:30:08 Well, that's probably the most humanizing video I've ever seen of Joe Biden. It kind of makes me like Joe Biden. He seems nice, you know, he's affable, he's laughing at himself, calling himself old. So I do like the conspiracy that it's 5D chess and he's really trying to troll Kamala because now she's usurped him while he's still currently president. I'm sure that has him feeling some sort of way. And yeah, I like that conspiracy, but really and truly, I don't know, maybe he put it on. I don't know. Now I'm really thinking about it. I'm like, why would he put it on? Why would he put it on? And I just, I find him too incapable to be doing 5D chess. I just think he just kind of instinctually, impulsively did it. But you really do think that that was a troll, Owen? You think that he was doing it to try to throw shade on Kamala? I love that theory. No, actually, that's not my theory. But my theory actually kind of agrees with what you said first.

1:31:02 I think Biden is done. I think after the Harris coup, Biden just said, all right, I'm done. I don't care anymore. He's done being the commander in chief. And so, and that's why I think in this video, you kind of said it humanizes the most. And let me be clear, this guy is still a corrupt scumbag, okay? This guy and his crooked family still sold the country out. So it's not that I'm forgetting or forgiving that, I'm just responding to this video here. And it was the most humanizing. So I think Biden has just given up being the commander in chief. And the irony of it is that this is actually the best Biden that we've seen yet. I mean, it really is. He's hanging out with Trump supporters. He's jovial. He's joking. He's smiling. He puts on the Trump hat. He gets a good laugh later on.

1:31:47 He did a picture with those kids. He managed not to sniff any of them. And he did a picture with the kids. They all had Trump shirts on. So he's literally in a picture with like 30 kids with all the different Trump gear that they have. So I mean, he basically went to a Trump event and he was supposed to be campaigning for Harris. And then he puts on the Trump hat. So to me, Biden's just given up being commander in chief. He's done with the politics of it. You know, they'll tell him to go here or go there and maybe he has to go do a speech here or speech there. He's basically doing the bare minimum. The irony is The country is much better off with this Joe Biden. The country is much better off with Joe Biden not governing, not getting involved in policy, not getting involved in politics, but just coming off as a normal guy and hey, I can go hang out with a Trump supporter and hey, I can go get along with Trump supporters and take a picture. It's okay, these are normal Americans too, they're good people. So in an ironic twist, it's like, yeah, this is the best Biden for the country is him literally in a Trump hat.

1:32:48 Well, I do agree with you, but the real conspiracy on why Joe Biden stepped down, this is what people don't realize, is once Joe Biden got diagnosed with COVID and he realized he couldn't smell any more children, he figured what's the point? He said, forget about it. I'm just going to hang him up. No, I agree with you I agree with you 100% he's checked out it's like senior year of high school or senior year of college you just got to check out he's just kind of enjoying the ride and what's really weird in this video that his staffer looks like he's about 20 years old I don't know if that's secret service or what but yeah I mean he's totally checked out and that's probably what's best for our country is

CHAPTER 25 / 48 Discussion

Voter Ignorance and the "Brat" Narrative

The hosts criticize the "brat" branding of Kamala Harris, arguing it appeals to voters with no understanding of policy or history. They discuss the "mental disorder" of liberalism, which they define as a failure to understand choice and consequence. Stein expresses concern that "lemming" voters will be driven to the polls by celebrities like Taylor Swift.

kamala harris· tim walz· liberalism· mental disorder· taylor swift· voter drives· brat

1:33:26 What's better than having a corrupt leader is having no leader at all. So it just shows you I do think this is the best thing for our country. But Owen, I don't want to sit here and sell fear, but I think Donald Trump is going to have a really tough time in this upcoming election, not because he's unpopular, but because he's going to have to People have just forgotten that Kamala Harris has been the vice president for three years. They've forgotten that she's basically in charge of our border. None of these people remember anything. It's like we're dealing with mice. I mean, they have no long-term memory and she's responsible for all the stuff she's saying that she's gonna fix. She could be fixing it right now. And the fact that people are just, I guess, ignorant to that fact that she's the vice president

1:34:09 It really makes me very worried for the upcoming election because I do think that they're not only going to cheat and fortify it, but hell, people might actually vote for just because they want an Indonesian black woman as president. Well, we're dealing with lemmings essentially, and they would run off the cliff into a wood chipper if the media told them to. And this is why I get so upset with this bull crap of Go vote register to vote everybody vote no no if you're a no information low IQ voter do not vote You're an idiot. You should not be voting. I don't buy into this everybody should know no if you don't know the three branches of government if you can't pass a basic civics test if you don't realize Kamala Harris has been the vice president for the last four years and she's running against herself on the campaign trail then no stay home you should not vote no don't go register to vote please

1:35:07 Please, if you haven't registered to vote, if you haven't taken the action to go register to vote on your own accord because you want to be politically informed and active, then do not register to vote and do not vote, please. I'm sick of these Taylor Swift voter drives to get out ignorant voters that say Kamala is brat. Because that really is exactly what we're dealing with. And I guess, you know, it's the disconnect maybe that They really just see it as, hey look, Kamala Harris is trendy and hip and she's a non-white woman. Well, okay, so but what about her policies? It's like they don't even connect the two. You could sit here and they say, yeah, gee, the economy's been much worse in the last four years and we've had a lot more problems in the last four years, but I can't wait to vote for Kamala Harris.

1:35:54 It's like they don't even make the connection. It's there's like this just complete disconnect and really honestly at the end of the day Liberalism is a mental disorder. Well, what is the diagnosis? What is the mental disorder? They don't understand action-reaction They don't understand choice consequence that that is the mental disorder. That is the mental disorder of liberalism. I And you know what I'm a little frustrated about is not only did she lie, but you have Kamala Harris saying that she owns a gun and Tim Wallace owns a gun and they love guns when they've been both. They've both been on the record saying they want to get rid of assault weapons and they probably want to get rid of more than just that.

CHAPTER 26 / 48 Discussion

Trump Campaign Strategy and Social Services

Alex Stein suggests that Donald Trump should pander more to low-information voters by highlighting the $1,200 stimulus checks issued during his presidency. He argues that Trump needs to use "rules for radicals" to compete with the Democrats' promises of free services. Owen Shroyer counters that the "hard right" makes it difficult for Trump to pander without facing internal backlash.

donald trump· stimulus checks· abortion· pander· rules for radicals· agenda 47

1:36:32 So what I would have liked to have seen though from Trump, and maybe he should do this and I'm not a campaign expert, but like she lies and tries to pretend to be conservative. He needs to say, and this was true under when he was president, we did have good social services. He gave everybody $1,200. I mean, I know that's not necessarily a conservative value, but I think that that would resonate with the American people and saying, listen, I gave y'all 1,200 bucks when I was president. These people are, I keep saying people are dumb, but that would work. That's what I'm frustrated about is that, oh, you guys want free stuff? I'm going to give you better free stuff. And I know that maybe sounds ingenuine, but if you look at the record and you look at how much Trump bailed out the American people, much more than Joe Biden or Kamala Harris ever have. Gas prices were incredibly cheap. He needs to talk about how Americans

1:37:18 are going to have a better life. Not necessarily all the trans stuff, even though it's important, all the Haitian stuff. We should be talking about all this. But you almost have to like give people sugar to help their medicine go down. So you guys might get some more free stuff. We might lower health care. You know, we might give you another $1,200 check because it stimulated the economy. I don't know, but if she can pretend to be a gun advocate, Kamala Harris can pretend to be a gun advocate, I think Donald Trump should, I guess, try to garner some of the social service support from his social service resume of giving us, you know, free money. Was it good for the country? I don't know. I mean, that's We'll see inflation is crazy right now. But I know that would resonate to the low information voter. And they would say oh I get free stuff. I'll vote for Trump. It's like I made a Web site type in illegals for Trump. Now this is obviously a satire Web site but that's what we should be doing. Trump should be getting the illegals. Trump should be saying I'm going to hire you to build crap. We have to play their game. I

1:38:13 I don't know if Trump's doing that, and that's why I'm really also frustrated on this campaign show. Not that Trump's running a bad campaign, but he's gotta use some of their rules for radicals, some of their game plan, he needs to use like they're using his. All right, mark it down. Alex Stein just made a Mary Poppins reference talking politics on the Alex Jones Show. Wow. I mean, that takes nuance and skill. I am impressed. Now, the issue with Trump pandering, cuz I think look at the abortion issue as maybe an example of this where to me, I think he's pandering to the left with the abortion issue. Now, I don't know where Trump really stands on the abortion issue. And the point he made during the debate, I think is the most important point. Hey, you can ask me about my stance on abortion all day long, it doesn't matter. The policy does not come from the White House.

CHAPTER 27 / 48 Discussion

Abortion as a Political Football, Economic Realities

The discussion moves to how Democrats use abortion ballot measures to drive voter turnout. Alex Stein argues that while abortion is a major talking point, the economy and gas prices affect more people daily. He laments the decline of the oil and gas industry in Texas under the Biden administration and the rising cost of living for young Americans.

abortion· roe v. wade· gas prices· inflation· bidenomics· oil and gas· texas

1:39:06 The policy is at the state level. You keep asking us like it matter. It doesn't matter what I think about abortion. It's at the state. The states will decide. The voters in the states will decide. So, you know, but it's always, you know, abortion is the football that the Democrats need to keep on the field because it's what drive people to the ballot every year, by the way. That's why the Democrats, and they're having victories on this issue, unfortunately. That's why the Democrats are trying to get abortion back on the ballot in as many states as possible. Even if it's like some sort of a weird thing where it's like you're not actually voting on abortion, but like you're voting on is it like six weeks or eight weeks or can we get it on the ballot next?

1:39:45 whatever ballot measure they can get abortion on the ballot with, the Democrats are fighting to get it on the ballot because they know that's their number one voter drive is abortion. That's their number one thing. But back to the issue with Trump pandering. So he tries to pander to the left with some of this stuff, and the problem with the right wing is, not all the right wing, but you know, look at the abortion hardliners. They started bringing the long knives out against Trump. They started campaigning against Donald Trump. Now I was sitting here saying, first of all, I'm not a political purist, it's a cancer to any political movement. Second of all, if you don't see what Trump is doing, Then you're missing the bigger picture. If you think the Democrats are gonna be better on abortion than Trump, then I don't know what to tell you. But I think that's the problem. If Trump tries to pander to the left or kind of play these political games, you've got the hard right that just comes after him and pulls the long knives out. So it's like he can't even do it. The right wing is way too purist and consistent and actually follow stuff for him to even do it.

1:40:48 Well, Owen, you have a very good point, but that's abortion. And people will say that abortion is one of their most important issues, even more important than the economy. And I'm very pro-life. I don't want any babies to die. But they use that to distract us. So yeah, I actually, you know, Trump could... I think maybe even be a little more vague on his stance on abortion, if that would help him. But forget about the thing about abortion. It's a huge issue. But I'm talking about money. I'm talking about like stuff people wanna hear. So, you know, very few people, and even though it is such an important thing, but not everybody has an abortion. Like we talk about abortion, like everybody's just having them, everybody. I know people that had abortions. It isn't- Oh, it's like 1%. It's like 1% or less.

1:41:29 That's what I'm saying, but yet the economy affects all of us. Yeah, I mean, it just sucks that the Democrats are able to weaponize abortion to rally their base to go vote to kill babies. It makes me sick, but that's where we're at. So I don't know necessarily how much you should pander with him. I do think that he had a good statement saying it is states' rights, and he obviously put in Supreme Court justices that, you know, got rid of rovers way to his resume is better than any president last fifty years and all these hardline conservatives it's not enough they rather have camila harris so she can abort more babies like that's how dumb we are you know it's just we want to share our own people but a lot of those abortion people if you really look at their twitter accounts they're all the santa's people never trumpers

1:42:11 And you know, listen, Trump's not perfect. I have my criticisms of Trump. I'm sure you have criticisms of Trump. That's what we're supposed to do as, you know, American citizens. But he's still the much better candidate than Kamala Harris, who wants to turn your daughter into a boy by cutting off her breasts when she's 15 years old. So... Or tampon Tim, who wants to put a tampon in your kid's butt. I mean, I'm just curious if anyone's going to ask where tampon Tim would put it. You know, maybe he's taught kids on the football team where to put them. I don't know. That's where we're at. Tampons are in the boys' restroom. I mean, give me a break, dude. And that's why it's like, these are important issues. Abortions are obviously important, but should it be the most important issue affecting everyday Americans? I don't think so. I think more people fill up their gas tank than have an abortion. I think more people are trying to buy a house when they can't afford one because all the banks and companies own these houses. Like, when our parents were growing up, they still had it tough, but they were able to afford a home, Owen. Now, my friends in their 30s, nothing.

1:43:08 I mean, I have some friends that are wealthy, but a lot of my friends are still paying rent. And if they do buy a house, it's a junkie house. It just sucks. These are things that you could fix. The government could fix this, but instead they want to subsidize these social services to illegal immigrants. So if I was Trump, I would start talking more about giving free stuff to American citizens and taking that free stuff. from illegal aliens that are currently gaming the system and getting free hotel rooms in New York, that I was just there. And for me to stay at the Hampton Inn, $329 because one out of every five hotel in Manhattan is now considered a migrant shelter, raising the price for Johnny Primetime, Alex Time, trying to stay one night in Manhattan. It's insane. These are problems we could fix. If you're gonna subsidize something, subsidize the American people that were born here, that love this country.

1:43:57 But that's not where we're at. So I don't know. I do think Trump needs to kind of lean on that $1,200. I know that would resonate with the African-American community, because that's what they, when I asked them on the street, they're like, man, I want that $1,200. Yeah, they talk about the stimmies. That's what I'm saying. Trump should be like, I stimulated the economy. Because they always talk about pandemic. I didn't go to the vaccine. Trump, stop talking about the vaccine. The vaccine's not good. There's another guy, an ultra marathoner, 29 years old, just had a cardiac arrest. I believe New York Post shared that today. There's too many marathoners, too many professional athletes get going and having cardiac issues. So yeah, we need to stop talking about the vaccine and start talking about those $1,200 checks. I don't care if that pisses off some conservatives. As a matter of fact, you'd be surprised how many conservatives are struggling and could use $1,200 because of Biden's economy that he's created. So that would resonate with people. Bidenomics has increased the cost of living about $5,500 a year on average for the average American.

CHAPTER 28 / 48 Discussion

Narrative Control and Alex Stein's Upcoming Show

Owen Shroyer and Alex Stein discuss the importance of "narrative control" in politics. Stein mentions he is preparing to host Alex Jones on his show, "The Blimp with the Pimp," and jokes about ordering Domino's pizza for the guest. He teases that the upcoming episode will involve "gay frogs" and other classic InfoWars themes.

narrative control· alex jones· glenn beck· alex stein· gay frogs· domino's pizza

1:44:55 You know, here's what I see the problem with Republicans is they just don't understand narrative control or they just don't want to engage in it. I don't know. And there's different scales. Like if you go out and do one of your bits at a city council or when I would go out and do man on the streets interviews and, you know, own the libs or, you know, destroy the Trump protesters, whatever. Like, that's us engaging in small-level narrative control. I know what that guy's gonna say, I know what to say to get him to say what I want him to say, and then I know what I'm gonna say in response to that. Or you go out, you do your video, you know what you're gonna say, you know what the response to what you're gonna say is, and then you know what kind of the background is where it's like, yeah, I did a comedy bit, but actually, look, this is a real thing. So that's small-level narrative control that you or I do. When I look at Trump, I'm saying, Trump, talk

1:45:45 Talk about taxes, I would come out if I'm Donald Trump and I would say, you know what? We're gonna cut all taxes. How about that? Zero taxes. You wanna talk taxes? How about zero taxes? And then what's the response gonna be? My gosh, Trump's gonna kill the government with all the taxes. What are we gonna do? And then the response is good. The government sucks. Nobody likes the government. So it's like, that's large scale narrative control. And Trump is kind of good at it, I think organically, just because he kind of pops off. like with the dogs and cats getting eaten in Springfield, Ohio. But it's like, no, you can control these narratives by just saying something, getting their response, and then bringing the winning argument home. I agree 100%. I mean, it sounds bad that we're kind of encouraging a bait and switch, but that should be his narrative. And it's not that he's lying, it's just saying that this is my plan. A plan is not a lie. This is what I plan to do. So he should say this stuff that's actually gonna help American citizens.

1:46:41 Why do people not want to look into conspiracies? Why do people not want to know the truth? It's because they're working a 9-to-5 job and they got kids or they got a girlfriend or they got a husband or they got a wife and they got to pay their bills and people are struggling to pay their bills so they don't have time to go to Infowars.com. They don't have time to go to The Blaze. They just don't have time. So all they can do is watch TV in between their work and their bedtime. It's just sad. I think if people were doing better financially, a country would be doing much better. And you look at the oil and gas industry here in Texas, it was booming. It was booming. All these tensions were- It was huge. It was huge. And now it's just basically dead. They can't even- And these are starting salaries, you know, 75 grand a year, starting salary.

1:47:23 Yeah, and for no education, you don't even have to go to college. You can go be a roughneck. And there's roughnecks driving Lamborghinis in Midland, Texas because they're doing so well. And we have enough oil and gas. That's another conspiracy. Don't even get me started. You know, I don't want to, we don't have time to argue, but yeah, that all oil and gas is petroleum is old dinosaur bones. Yeah, right. I believe gas is renewable energy. I'm just saying there's something. I have a conspiracy theory. You know, we make fake diamonds now. I think maybe, maybe we can, maybe someday we can even make Oil and gas and just whatever the process the earth has of making it just like with diamonds We can maybe just create it ourselves believe so and in oil and gas. It's funny all these Tesla's They're always getting caught using a gas generator at the Tesla charging station Where does the energy come from hey by the way you got Alex Jones on your show tonight is that right that is correct I'm actually about to go down. He was on Glenn's show. We're wrapping up here. I'm about to go down there I

1:48:19 I don't know, he's probably gonna get mad. I ordered like 10 Domino's pizzas. I didn't know what to get. I should have ordered something nicer, but you know, I'm on a tight budget here. Does he like pizza? I'm sure he'll eat whatever you feed to him and it should be fine, yes. Well, I ordered pizza and then Jay said he doesn't like tomatoes and I'm like, oh gosh, now he's gonna not eat tomatoes on his pizza. Now, I mean, now there's tomatoes on the pizza, but he won't have the tomato sauce from the pizza. I'm stressed, I'm excited to talk to Alex. I've obviously talked to him in person multiple times. Alex Jones is going to be on the blimp with the pimp. And I don't want to give too much of a surprise, but there are going to be a lot of gay frogs involved in tonight's episode. I knew you had something up your sleeve. I knew it. It's probably a gay frog or two and other stuff. The Alex Stein show tonight, where can people watch it? Well, I think it's actually, we're going to wait until Tuesday, I think, to play it. But it works next week. All right, folks. Alex Stein, thank you.

CHAPTER 29 / 48 Discussion

Laura Loomer, Marjorie Taylor Greene, and Media Distractions

Owen Shroyer reacts to CNN's Jake Tapper criticizing Laura Loomer's presence on Trump's plane. He dismisses the social media feud between Loomer and Marjorie Taylor Greene as a distraction from the "coup" against Joe Biden. Shroyer finds it ironic that CNN labels Loomer a "conspiracy peddler" while ignoring their own biases.

laura loomber· marjorie taylor greene· jake tapper· cnn· drudge report· 9/11 truth

1:53:12 All right, a couple odds and ends here before I'm joined by my next guest. And this is a very important story. You want to talk about the Democrat persecution. If you're a Christian activist, we've got a great example and a story from a woman you've probably seen and heard of before, but they're about to send her to prison. And so we'll tell you that story coming up. But, you know, we talked about the 9-11 situation. Here's Jake Tapper. They're seething because Laura Loomer was on Trump Force One for his recent trip. And so an interesting angle to the coverage of that here from Jake Tapper and Clip2.

1:54:01 As this woman, Laura Loomer, here she is getting off of Trump's plane before yesterday's debate. Just on Sunday she posted an insanely racist message that if Harris, whose mom was an Indian immigrant, wins, quote, the White House will smell like curry and White House speeches will be facilitated via a call center, unquote. On this 23rd anniversary of 9-11, we should also note Loomer posted last year that 9-11 was a, quote, inside job, unquote. Trump continues to bring this person along on his travels with with him. Now that's hilarious the Legion of Doom the Legion of Doom now the tweet or the post from Laura Loomer about the White House smelling like curry is just hilarious But you know, I find it funny when whoever it is on the left CNN or even a political candidate they want to sit here and act holier-than-thou and more righteous or like they have a better moral standard and

1:55:01 These people knock boots with some of the most degenerate people in entertainment. They'll take an endorsement from Snoop Dogg or Eminem or any of these rappers that talk about drugging and beating women, that talk about killing police. I mean, give me a freaking break. Laura Loomer makes a joke about Indians cooking with curry and taking over call centers. Please, please. with the degeneracy that you guys have no problem associating with. And then they put on the screen 9-11 was an inside job. They actually put that on the screen! So, win Laura Loomer. That's a total win for Laura Loomer. And for 9-11 truthers. But how about that guys? Have you ever... Conspiracy. Conspiracy peddlers. Conspiracy peddlers and the Legion of Doom are now on Trump's plank regularly.

1:56:02 Have you ever guys, have you? I'm a conspiracy peddler. Sounds a little more official or like, I don't know, is that supposed to be an insult? Is that a step down from a conspiracy theorist? Or a step up? Where? A conspiracy peddler. You're a peddler in conspiracies. Oh my gosh, are you kidding me? I hate to see that. See, and this is what's sad, and look, I really don't care if Laura Loomer and Marjorie Taylor Greene, who I like both of them, want to get into a catfight, that's fine. It really doesn't matter to me. But now it's the front story on drudge. Are you kidding me? So I'm not going to tell Laura Loomer what to do if she wants to engage in this infighting and go after one of our best people in Congress and Marjorie Taylor Greene, then whatever, she's going to do what she wants. But I mean, come on. They literally run a coup against Joe Biden.

1:57:07 The Democrats literally run a coup against Joe Biden and install Kamala Harris. And a social media spat between Laura Loomer and Marjorie Taylor Greene is at the top of Drudge Report. So ladies, ladies, let's just put it aside for at least the next 55 days, can we? Can we just put it aside? I don't know why Laura would wanna go after one of our best members of Congress right now, but again, she's gonna do what she wants. That's at the top of drudge after they run a coup on Joe Biden and doesn't even get a mention. The state of the media.

CHAPTER 30 / 48 Discussion

Bevelyn Beattie Williams and Federal Prosecution

Christian activist Bevelyn Beattie Williams joins the show to discuss her sentencing to 41 months in federal prison for a 2020 "Jesus Matters" protest. She explains how New York Attorney General Letitia James and federal prosecutors targeted her under the FACE Act. Williams denies using violence or blocking access to the clinic, calling the charges a lie.

bevelyn beattie williams· face act· letitia james· planned parenthood· jesus matters· pro-life

1:57:54 Kamala Harris and the Democrats and their friends in the state-run propaganda media tell you that Donald Trump will weaponize the government and Donald Trump will weaponize the DOJ against his opposition. Of course, we know that the exact opposite is true. Unfortunately, I know that personally, but perhaps my guest joining me now could be an even worse case. And in fact it's so bad as Bevelyn Beattie Williams is about to join me to tell us her story. Just to kind of give people a taste of how bad it actually is, Bevelyn I had to get permission from my probation officer just to talk to you. Because part of my probation is I'm not allowed to talk to felons.

1:58:41 And of course, you shouldn't even be a felon and I should not be on probation. And yet here we are and now you yourself are facing jail time. Now for people in case you're not familiar with Bevelyn's story, she can tell you but she's been a right-wing activist, a Christian activist, a truth teller for some years on the streets. She's had many viral videos. And so now they're going after you, they're putting you on the list as a felon, and now they're trying to put you in jail. So for people that aren't familiar with your story, we'll roll some of your more successful, let's say, protests. And then just tell the people that what's led to this point of now the Democrats trying to weaponize the justice system against you and put you in jail.

1:59:31 It's kind of crazy when you think about it. They're treating me like a full on criminal. I mean, they sentenced me to 41 months in federal prison with also two years of supervised release. They indicted me back in December 2022, I think, for a Jesus Matters rally that I did in 2020 of July, I think July 2020. I was not arrested at this rally. There were police present both days. There were no charges pressed against me. There was no type of legal action on a state level taken against me for this rally. And then actually a year, I think in 2021 after they got Trump out, Latisha James, the same one who indicted Trump, I mean sued Trump, also sued me.

2:00:23 She sued me for an injunction to keep me from going in front of the abortion clinic, the Planned Parenthood abortion clinic. And they got an injunction against me for 30 feet, which means I'm not allowed in front of that building. I have to be 30 feet away from the building or I will get a $5,000 fine. And it was for that Jesus Matters rally. And so my legal team just said, hey, let's just go ahead and settle it. I was working with Thomas Moore at the time. They were like, just settle without admission of guilt unless you're not even living in New York anymore, you live in Tennessee. Just go ahead and just settle. And so I did, I took their advice. I don't think we understood how much these people were out for blood, in my personal opinion. And so what they did was they took that exact same case. They had Letitia James come after me on a state level, and then they had

2:01:12 That the federal government come after me for the same two day rally on a federal level and they indicted me. I mean, this is so crazy the amount of time that you're facing. I mean, maybe like a slap on the wrist like a week or something, even if they wanted to go after these ridiculous charges. How is it that they're looking at years? Where are they getting years in prison? So let me tell you what they did. When they indicted me, I had two charges. I had conspiracy of face and face, right? I went to trial. They couldn't get me on conspiracy. So I was found the jury for whatever reason, they just didn't have enough evidence. Well, and let's just quickly, I'm sorry to interrupt, but it's important to people understand the face, what you're talking about faces. They say that you're blocking entrance to an abortion clinic. Did you actually stop anybody from ever going into an abortion clinic?

2:02:05 Both rallies were recorded. Thousands of people watched this two day rally happen. I never stopped anyone from entering that abortion clinic. I've never put my hands on anyone. People know me as an activist because I go live. People have watched me and taken this journey with me of life in activism, and I have never show myself being an violent, aggressive person, period. Do I have a loud mouth? Am I direct? Am I candid? Yes, but violent, threatening, that's not who I am. But what they were doing was, so basically at this rally, right, this woman claims that I was leaning my back on the door and

2:02:54 I slammed her hand in the door while my back was on the door. And so basically, when they found me guilty, they were basically saying that beyond reasonable doubt, I I went there specifically that day to slam her hand in the door, and it is just a blatant lie. Now, I wasn't found guilty on conspiracy because they just really didn't have enough evidence to find me guilty on conspiracy. But what they did was on my sentencing day, they basically sentenced me for conspiracy along with base even though I was found not guilty on conspiracy. Wow, you know that's virtually what they did to me and others as well. And I don't know the negotiations that your attorneys were in with the prosecutors or any of that. But they basically did the same thing to us and they said all these things that they were going to agree to and they said, oh, it's not going to make it without speech and oh, we're not going to push for jail time. And then they got in front of the judge and they said, nope, it's all about what he said and we want him to go to jail.

CHAPTER 31 / 48 Discussion

Systematic Racism and the Pro-Life Movement

Bevelyn Williams argues that the real "systematic racism" comes from the Democratic Party, citing Kamala Harris's record as a prosecutor. She expresses disappointment that major pro-life organizations and activist groups have remained silent about her case. Williams suggests that some groups are more interested in fundraising than in supporting those on the front lines.

systematic racism· kamala harris· black lives matter· pro-life· christians· fundraising

2:03:52 But I mean, really, your situation is worse. You're facing years. I had to do a couple months. It's all political persecution. So... I, I, my mind is just blown here. My mind is just blown. If you would have ran somebody over in a car and you were an illegal immigrant, they'd probably let you out the next day. You wouldn't face any jail time. I mean, clearly there's some agenda here, specifically when it comes to pro-life activists, because there's other examples that we have here. But see, this seems to be the pattern is they don't get the charges that they want. But then they still sentence you based off of the charges, so they'll file five charges, one will stick, but then they'll sentence you as if all five stuck. Right, I'm gonna tell you the honest truth, systematic racism, it does exist.

2:04:43 But people need to understand that the people accusing us of systematic racism are the ones that are doing it. They have a bad habit of projecting what they do on others, i.e., Russia, Ukraine, what they accused Trump of with Russia. They were actually doing with Ukraine, right? So what you have to understand is, the reality is I'm the worst person to be standing against abortion and Christian activism because I'm a black woman, okay? I don't fit the narrative that they usually use to get their agenda. Usually we're the scapegoats that they use to get in office, get in power, they hail us and then they nail us. Look at what they're doing right now with the illegal immigrants. The black Americans of this nation were little to nothing right now. And they've done this multiple times when it came to drug crime. I mean, look at what Biden did to the black community in the 90s with the crimes. Look at what Kamala did when she was a prosecutor. She literally is called Kamala, lock a nigga up.

2:05:43 She's known for that. So now you get a woman like me who's not a token, who's actually a stand up Christian. And even though I'm a black woman, my Christian values take head over my color. And I have a strong mouth and I'm declaring the truth. I'm not going around spearing a bunch of lies. I'm telling the truth. And I'm the living proof of that truth. So of course you got a couple of months. You're the typical white conservative that they can just deem crazy and say you're just a conspiracist, you don't know what you're talking about. But me, I'm the living proof of what they do. They need to put me under the jail.

2:06:23 That sentencing was a lynching. It was a lynching. And I'm learning this is what the real racism is, what we face in America. It's with the Democrats, it's with the left, it's with the Marxists and the communists. They hate us, but they use us to get their agenda done. Was your judge white? Yes, of course, and she was a woman. Well, it's funny that I'm not hearing a peep from any Black Lives Matter groups or any liberal activists that want to prop themselves up and feel good about themselves for standing up for black Americans. And you'll hear constantly about black men being incarcerated at higher rates than white men. Kamala Harris was guilty of that for, you know, let's say petty minor drug offenses, which I actually don't disagree with. I'm against the war on drugs. But it's funny

2:07:18 The silence in your case. I find it funny the silence in your case when your case is much more egregious. Your case is much more egregious. Now, I'll get into the current legal situation you're in right now, but I'll just ask you flat out. Have any activist groups reached out to you? Have any activist groups tried to support your cause? No, other than other than young. I mean, a life site news other than the news groups that have been stepping with me to help make people aware of this actual quote unquote activist groups that get funding to be active for cause have not reached out.

2:08:00 to me, unfortunately, except for like LifeSite News and the pro-life news, people like that. But no, most of the activist groups that are even in agreement with me, they haven't reached out. It's been silent because the thing is this, their focus is fundraising. And so they will do what they need to do and put up what needs to be put up on social media to get the funds. That was never my intentions and it still isn't. I do what I do because I understand the detriment that we're dealing with in this nation. I had three abortions myself, Owen. You understand what I'm saying? I know what it's like to live in a ghetto neighborhood, be attacked. You're living in an environment where everything is for you to die.

2:08:50 You understand what I'm saying? And so my mission and my heart, it's because of Christ in me. And it's because I know the truth. It's not because I just want to fundraise and make some money. And so I feel like sometimes I don't fit the narrative that they need. I'm not the clean cut girl that they need. At the same time, it's just like, you know what? After all of this, it shouldn't matter. It should be about waking up and people realizing, wait a minute, the government is really, this is tyranny. We're in the middle of tyranny. It's time for the American people to stop being selfish and wake up. Well, so much of what you just said is, I mean, it's penetrating, it's powerful, and I wanna respond to some of it. I'm upset because

CHAPTER 32 / 48 Discussion

Critique of Pro-Life "Grifters" and Roe v. Wade

Bevelyn Williams and Owen Shroyer critique the "pro-life right," suggesting some leaders were unhappy when Roe v. Wade was overturned because it removed a primary fundraising tool. Williams claims her protest was targeted because it successfully prevented 150 abortions in a single day. She contrasts her "loud mouth" activism with the "clean cut" image preferred by wealthy non-profits.

roe v. wade· fundraising· grifters· planned parenthood· christian activism· 501c3

2:09:36 I agree with you and what we've seen I think from the pro-life right recently has been a bit exposing that it seems like really some of them are kind of in it just for the big funds that they get. I mean, I don't even, I'm not looking for infighting here, right? But I mean, I could name the names. I mean, we're talking about some of the biggest names in the pro-life movement that have made lots of money. Lots. None of them have profiled you. No. No, I mean you are clearly in my opinion I'd say you are clearly the biggest case of discrimination against a pro-life activist. I don't think anybody's case measures up to yours. I mean there have been others and I'd have to look at the rap sheet. I think you're facing the most time.

2:10:35 But there have been others that went to prison for protesting outside of abortion clinics. There's a handful now, unfortunately, that you join that are facing prison time. I think that your sentence is the longest at this point. And so... No, it's one more woman that's in jail right now. She got 57 months. But check this out. She was a white liberal. But she's one of them people that was like a pro vegan. She was so vegan in that way that she was just like, if I'm not gonna kill an animal, why are y'all killing babies? So she made some type of sense. So they really gave her the hammer hammer because she's supposed to be in their camp. And on top of that, she got tried in DC. Mind you, my judge took precedence from the people in DC. DC got handled like dogs.

2:11:24 They were remanded, they were not able to fight their case from the outside. As soon as they were sentenced, they were taken in and that's it. And it got the most time. That woman got 57 months and then I'm right after her. And just to kind of put a little more gravity to this, I mean, folks, as soon as I heard about Bevelyn's story, I was immediately like, okay, I gotta cover this. Again, I had to get in touch with my probation officer just to do this interview. That's how important this was to me. But here's my problem, and again, I don't wanna name names. I could go down the list. I think people know who it is. But they'll share the Bevelyn Beatty video of the black woman protesting against Black Lives Matter. They'll show the Bevelyn Beatty video, Bevelyn Williams video when it's a viral video and they wanna get impressions and they wanna get their followers up and that's all good. And now here you are facing prison

2:12:22 And they're not giving you a platform? And they're not giving you a profile? I mean, that's what I'm saying. It's like... You're putting it all on the line. You're now one of the many faces of discrimination against pro-life activists, and yet the people who have literally made millions of dollars off the pro-life movement won't even profile you. I gotta say, that's, I mean for you it's probably more heartbreaking, but to me it's just like my goodness, that is, honestly it's shameful and it's almost unethical. Owen, you get it because you guys are going through it like I am. You understand what I'm saying? I feel like a lot of, unless you are in our shoes and you're really feeling the attacks, you're not gonna get it. But this is what I will say.

2:13:08 All of this time, we wanted Roe versus Wade to go back to the states and it finally did. And people that you thought would be happy about this thing were actually not, because it was no longer a pivot for fundraising. I'm going to do you one up. When Trump got in, Trump removed this, remember there was a separation between not for profits to where you can't really speak on politics because of Lyndon Bain Johnson? He was the one who implemented that. Trump removed that. No one said nothing. There was crickets when Roe versus Wade got overturned. There were crickets when that little, I think, stipulation between being a non-for-profit and dealing with politics was overturned by Trump. Because the reality is, it was people's safe space.

2:13:54 It was a safe space to not have to deal with politics and just get on your pull print and preach to protect yourself and not have to pick a side, right? And it was a safe space for you to say, hey, look at them. They're committing abortion. Give us money to help the fight. But you didn't really want the fight. It's a lot of talk about the fight, and it's a lot of people using it as a machine to make money. But they're not really there to try to find a solution for the fight. And let me just say this, that two day rally, you know why they want my head for that two day rally? Because in one day alone, they didn't mention the other day, they said in one day alone, 150 appointments were scheduled to murder babies, none of them showed up.

2:14:36 That's why they wanted my head. I was criticized. I was ridiculed. I was the loud mouth Christian that people did not want to associate with because I wasn't doing it the proper way. Yet, I did what people fundraise for to get 150 babies in a year. We did in a day. I'm not here to keep pushing a problem, pushing an issue so I can milk you. I don't got time for that. There's a real problem at hand. There's babies being killed and it has to be addressed. And now what you are seeing in this hour is individuals who are really part of the solution and individuals that are wanting to milk the problem.

CHAPTER 34 / 48 Discussion

Margaret Sanger and the History of Planned Parenthood

Bevelyn Williams discusses the eugenicist roots of Planned Parenthood, citing Margaret Sanger's intent to reduce the Black population. She links modern Democratic policies to Lyndon B. Johnson's welfare state, which she argues removed fathers from Black homes. Williams concludes by asking for prayers and letters of support as she faces her prison sentence.

margaret sanger· eugenics· lyndon b. johnson· kkk· darwinism· black community· welfare

2:19:57 Us Christians, they're watching us fight against each other, scrabble to put food on our tables, scrabble to get support while we're tearing each other down and they're over there building an empire on innocent blood babies. And about to throw you one of the leading voices under the jail, Bevelyn Williams. Everybody should go to InfoWars. Phone.com right now. Infowarsphone.com. They have all the solar panels, all the charging stations, all the best sat phones, all the best sat radios, all the best equipment at the best prices, and they support the broadcast. Infowarsphone.com. I think it's a default move to do this. It's an absolute essential, and it is so important to get ready, and I'm telling myself that. If there's an EMP attack, your cell phone's just nothing but a brick.

2:20:48 Right? And I know that even in the law enforcement part of it, that when people are, you know, run their phone, they can turn their phone off for 72 hours. Somebody in our group can ping that phone and track that phone for 72 hours. So you're not off the grid. So make sure you get your fair days leave. Have a sat phone as a backup. If you're concerned about secure messaging, the black phone, secure end to end encryption. Everybody should go to InfoWarsPhone.com right now. All right, closing out here with Beverly and BD Williams, it's sad. You'll hear the Democrats talk about, and it's all just political propaganda. But the Democrats, separating children from their family at the borders. Well, they have no problem separating Beverly and Williams from her family at all, couldn't care less about that. It's just all political propaganda. But I think, Beverly, what's unfortunate is that most people and

2:21:50 This is what's so frustrating I think about the activist left, especially when it comes to them, you know, posturing themselves as social justice heroes for standing up for black rights and all this other stuff, but then they're pro-abortion. I wonder if they even know what Planned Parenthood was originally intended for. I mean, the entire intention of Planned Parenthood with Margaret Sanger was, by her own words, to eviscerate the black population. I mean, they set up Planned Parenthoods in black communities because they didn't want black people. And so it's ironic that you sit here and you see all these left-wing protesters propping themselves up, we're fighting for social justice and we're fighting for black people. And then they love Planned Parenthood, an institution that was literally set up to kill black people.

2:22:44 I know trying to get in here and expose all the idiosyncrasies of the liberal logic is like banging your head up against a wall, but yet here you are. Here you are about to get thrown under the prison. for standing up against probably the most evil institution that's not officially a government institution. I mean, I guess really it is technically. And here they are, they're gonna throw you under the jail and nobody comes to your defense, no marches, no interviews on CNN. No, I mean, again, the truth is in the pudding. The Democrat Party is the party of the racist.

2:23:25 They've hated us from the beginning. They fought for us to stay slaves. They hung us when we voted Republican. I mean, she would campaign to the KKK. The American Eugenic Society was created to destroy us, the black race. Darwinism didn't come to explain how man got here. Darwinism was to explain how black people got here, monkeys. And what breaks my heart is that Us as a people, we've focused so much more on culture that we're not realizing we're falling for the very plan. What did Lyndon Bain Johnson say? He gave us welfare. He made it irrelevant for our fathers to be in a home. And he said, I will give those niggas enough. I'll give them enough.

2:24:14 Not too much, but just enough that they will be voting Democrat for the next 200 years. It is the Democrat policies that have removed the fathers from the home, that have brought effeminate culture to the black community. Now men in our community are cutting their penises off while they can't even take care of their kids. We are killing each other in the street, yet they're saying defund the police. We can barely have a picnic. without somebody dying. And it's a black on black crime, even to get started with it. Are you kidding? It's such a heartbreaking thing to watch. And for these liberals that don't know any better because of indoctrination, it's time to wake up. There's no excuses. You are literally claiming that you care about us, but you're supporting blatant racism and genocide against the black community. And I am the living witness.

2:25:09 I am not violent. I do not have a overly extensive background, maybe petty crime, but never nothing crazy. You know what I mean? I have never, even when I did petty crime, I've never been sentenced to time in jail, maybe probation, maybe a fine. Ten years later with the big old ten year gap in between, they gave me three and a half years with two years supervised release because of what I stand for. It was racist. Period. I'm on Facebook, just look up Evelyn Beattie Williams on Facebook and on my donation site you can connect with at WellMinistries.org. All of those links are on that site. You can connect with me on Facebook and then you have my ministry page at WellMinistries.org. You can write me a letter, you can email me, you can reach out for support and also yeah, just anything you need you can get it there.

2:26:23 Would you like people, if you do end up being incarcerated, would you like people to write you letters? Yeah, if they did, they would send them to my ministry and my husband would pack them up and send them to me. But I'm trusting God that I don't. Listen, Owen, okay? Respectfully, I'm too cute to be sitting in jail. If I have to go, I will preach that gospel. But a sister like her nails done, I like to take bubble baths. I'm really not trying to go to jail. Now if I do go though, I will say this, there's gonna be a lot of souls in jail safe. But I'm really not trying to go y'all. Who wants to go to jail? I don't have a piece about being in jail. And it's not because I haven't went to jail for the gospel before, I have. I've done that, been there, done that.

2:27:09 I don't wanna go because I just don't want the satisfaction of the powers that be to just think that they can do harm to God's people and just get away with it. I feel like it's so unjust. So I'm just praying. Bevelyn, thank you for your time today. God bless, God speed. I'll be following this closely. Thank you, Owen. God bless you. Alright ladies and gentlemen, well I think that, I mean not just for the sake of Bevelyn as I see as an innocent woman facing jail time. What she says is powerful. I mean aside from having to come on here and just defend her case, which is an easy one to me. I mean what she says is powerful and that's why they want her in jail. They want to shut her up. So we're going to share that entire interview.

CHAPTER 35 / 48 Discussion

Transgender Confrontation and TDS Viral Video

Owen Shroyer plays a viral video of a confrontation between a reporter and a transgender individual exhibiting "Trump Derangement Syndrome." The individual is seen screaming and threatening the reporter with legal action and "destruction." Shroyer mocks the absurdity of the situation and the individual's physical appearance.

trump derangement syndrome· transgender· university· viral video· confrontation

2:33:55 And a man starts asking political questions. The tranny goes full Trump derangement syndrome. Man, was this a familiar sight in clip nine. Get the f*** out of my face now! Now! That was very rude of you. Get the f*** out of my face! Do you want to go to jail? Sir? Ma'am? I don't really know what to call you. You're f***ing done, man. I'm done. You want me to get the f***ing police? You just insulted me. Well listen here, pal. I mean, you are gonna go to jail. I could f***ing tell the police to get you. I'm vegan, so don't say that. Listen. It's all because of him, man. You really get the f*** out of my face. Get out of my way right now. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, we'll do that. You do not have a release I will sue you you're gonna sue him don't sue him man because we're trying to just I don't have her you do not have a release if you F***ing post this I will destroy you. I will destroy you. I will destroy you. Just keep going on. I got my crew with me now. I got my crew. Yeah. Yeah. What's up? Who won? Who's next? All right

2:34:57 I feel like I gotta collaborate with this guy. I'm not sure who this guy is. I feel like it has to happen. I have to collaborate with that guy. So if we have a large radio audio audience here, if you're hearing that, I need to explain to you what's going on. If you're hearing the guy screaming, you're like, why is this guy screaming? It's supposed to be a woman. It's a man that's the transgender. You gotta see this guy. With ridiculous fake breasts. It's just ridiculous What are you doing? I mean, it's actually it really is hilarious. I mean, can you imagine did you ever do that thing? I'm sure you know, you you put like balloons in your shirt. You make it look like you've got big boobs That's what this guy looks like He looks like a kid doing like a prank or something or he looks like a kid at it like a water balloon fight

2:36:04 and puts big water balloons under the shirt. Like, you know, it's a funny thing like, oh look I have boobs. That's how ridiculous this guy's fake breasts are, okay? And he's running around screaming. Oh my gosh. That is ridiculous. But then what is that deal at the end there? I don't know where all these guys come from. I guess he's at a university and then there's like 20 black guys that show up and they're standing by. They look like students. And then all of a sudden they're standing behind the reporter, who's also a white dude, and he's like, yeah, what's up now? What led to that? What is going on in the world? This is insane. Threatens to rip off the jacket. My goodness, liberals are just, their brain is broke. It's really too bad. Their brain is just completely broke. I mean, are those not the most ridiculous plastic breast implants you've ever seen?

CHAPTER 36 / 48 Discussion

Kathy Griffin and Celebrity Trump Derangement

The host critiques comedian Kathy Griffin for claiming she is on a "target list" for a future Trump administration. Shroyer mocks Griffin's appearance, comparing her to a horror film villain, and argues that she is a member of the establishment rather than a rebel. He dismisses her fears as a desperate attempt to remain relevant.

kathy griffin· trump derangement syndrome· horror film· establishment· plastic surgery

2:37:09 Whatever plastic surgeon you went to sir That's uh Not fooling anybody. Okay weatherman Suffers case of Trump derangement syndrome after Trump flag passes behind him while live on air. Oh my goodness He couldn't handle he couldn't handle the fright He could not handle the fright of a Trump flag and he just goes completely crazy while covering the hurricane Francine Yeah, it's tough. It's hard He has a list crazed Kathy Griffin claims Trump will target her and other comedians one by one, you know part of this is like Projection and then another part of it is almost like stolen valor in a way and I'm not obviously I'm not comparing this to the people like Tim Walz who lie about their military service, but

2:38:07 It's this idea like Kathy Griffin wishes she was a rogue, Kathy Griffin wishes she was a rebel, Kathy Griffin wishes in a way that she was cool enough and cutting-edge enough to actually be a target of the government or the deep state. She's not. Bevelyn Williams is, Owen Schroer is, Alex Jones is. Not Kathy Griffin. Oh my god, what'd they do to her? Holy smokes. What are, you know, This is like evidence of demon possession right here. When you try to butcher your body so that you look like a demon. I don't know what, I've never seen that before. I don't know what Kathy Griffin has done to her face, but she looks like she's out of a horror film. That's like a horror film villain, like if that was charging at children, it'd be like, that'd be a damn good horror movie. If you put a knife in Kathy Griffin's hand and then she's charging at children, it's like, my God, that's like, that's...

2:39:09 Holy smokes. You ever seen the movie Barbarian? That's like, she's like the barbarian in that movie. Oh my god. Alright, Kathy starring in a new horror film. Kathy, we're ready for hair and make- OH MY GOD! You don't even- she doesn't even need hair and makeup. She just shows up out of bed. So no, Kathy. You're not on a list. You're not a target. You're not cutting edge. You're not cool. You're not even funny. And... I guess you wish you were cool. I guess you wish you were actually anti-establishment, but you're not. You are the establishment. And then the establishment did something to your face that probably cannot be undone. All right, you got Elon Musk and Ron Paul teaming up to stop government overspending, and this stuff is so obvious. We'll see. We'll see. Should Trump get into office? I do think he will. I think he wins.

CHAPTER 37 / 48 Discussion

Government Spending, Mike Johnson, and Election Warnings

Owen Shroyer covers several news items, including Elon Musk and Ron Paul's potential collaboration on government efficiency. He criticizes Speaker Mike Johnson for pulling the SAVE Act from the funding bill. Shroyer also warns about potential mail-in voting disruptions and the expansion of abortion clinics in New Mexico to serve neighboring states.

mike johnson· ron paul· elon musk· save act· mail-in voting· new mexico· missouri

2:40:16 I think yeah right now I think he gets 270 electoral votes. That's how close I think it's going to be. Elon Musk on a government efficiency spending team probably team up with Ron Paul even even but So I guess we're not gonna be doing research on shrimp running on treadmills or gay mice or any of that stuff anymore or gay lobsters, whatever the hell else they got going on. Yeah, we spent hundreds of millions of dollars on gay animal tests and shrimp on treadmills. I mean, just ridiculous stuff. Anthony Fauci puts poor little innocent puppies heads into a box with flesh-eating flies.

2:40:59 That sick freak. So I guess all that spending would come to an end. Speaking of spending, it looks like Mike Johnson is going to just endlessly fund the government. He's not even going to try to attach the SAVE Act to it. This guy sucks, man. He really... He ended up being worse than Kevin McCarthy. Mike Johnson withdraws government funding bill, which includes SAVE Act, just hours before scheduled vote. So he's going to bring it back. And he's probably going to take the, I think Johnson is trying to fund the government is what I see him doing here. Time will tell, but he wasn't going to get the votes from the Republicans because he wasn't going hard enough on the SAVE Act. And I guess he figured he wasn't going to get votes from Democrats because the SAVE Act was in there. So he was set for a failed vote because he couldn't even get the Republicans to vote with him. That's how

2:41:50 how bad of a leader he is, even with the SAVE Act in there. So he pulled it because he wasn't gonna get it funded. So I think he's gonna come back with a bill that he's gonna try to get everybody to vote for, or he thinks he can get the majority. My guess is he's going back to work to find out how he can get enough votes to get the continued resolution without the SAVE Act. That's what I think he's doing. And that'll be kind of the final bow, I think, for Mike Johnson. letting everybody know where he stands. He's a big government guy. He's a uniparty guy and he stabbed conservatives in the back. He did nothing. He did nothing for conservatives. He did nothing for Trump supporters. He never used the power of the purse, the power of the house, the power of the Speaker's gavel. And now he's going to renegotiate the continued resolution and probably drop the SAVE Act. Now, I hope I'm wrong, but

2:42:56 He should have been going in front of the media talking about the SAVE Act and shaming the Democrats for not wanting to vote it. Instead he goes and hides like a coward and is refabricating how he's going to get the government funded. Just shut it down, Mike. We don't like the government. But I guess he's a big fan. Here's what I was talking about earlier. Missouri Supreme Court allows abortion access amendment on the ballot. So the Democrats are trying to get abortion on as many ballots as they can to drive out the vote. So they know Kamala Harris can't win. The Democrats can't win with Kamala Harris alone. They need abortion on the ballot.

2:43:41 They need abortion on the ballot. So they're just trying to get any big, small ballot measure, whatever they can do. It's just any abortion issue. Get it on the ballot, drive out the vote, and then hopefully they vote for Harris at the same time. New Mexico, this is just, I mean... The abortion business, folks. The business of killing babies. And their number one client is a Democrat. New Mexico starts building abortion clinics to serve neighboring states. They're building abortion clinics right on the border so that you can come from Texas or Oklahoma and kill your baby. The business of killing babies and Democrats have business booming. I mean, is that not the most unethical? I just...

2:44:29 I can't even. We've already covered it. Election officials warn that widespread problems with the US mail system could disrupt voting. Yeah, you mean it'll be election night and Trump will be winning and then they'll say, oh, we just found 500 bajillion votes for Kamala Harris in a mail truck. It was just delayed. But now we have the votes and Harris wins Michigan and Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. That's the translation of that for you. In case, just in case, just in case they need that. In case Kamala's trailing in Pennsylvania, they'll find a mail truck and it'll have all the votes they need. Oh, it was just delayed, that's all, no big deal. Nothing to see here, America. I don't know if they'll get away with it this round, folks, but they're certainly putting it in their deck of cards to play.

CHAPTER 38 / 48 Discussion

Bill Gates and the Global Depopulation Agenda

Alex Jones critiques Bill Gates's influence over global health policy and his stance on the First Amendment. He cites Pfizer documents regarding the impact of mRNA vaccines on fertility and fetal health. Jones compares himself to Galileo, claiming he is being attacked for exposing a "psychotic mass murder" agenda driven by technocratic elites.

bill gates· pfizer· depopulation· mrna· lipid nanoparticles· first amendment· galileo

2:49:27 Thank you for your support. Get this collectible now and help keep us on air. The globalists don't want you just having a job 9 to 5 and going to the mall and buying tennis shoes or going to play golf or going to church. They think you're worthless and eating their resources.

2:50:07 Non-renewables. And for us, what we need to be able to do is to holistically look. It's not about dealing with pandemic preparedness or climate change. It's about how we collectively approach this. This is actually being discussed as part of the pandemic cord. It's discussed constantly here with WHO and all of our partners of how we work together to address all of these multiple drivers because they are directly related. They get up there at these big eugenics events. It's an honor to receive this prestigious award from Thai. I've always believed that innovation is the key to solving the world's toughest challenges, whether it's stopping a pandemic, avoiding a climate disaster. And then you wonder why he's in control of the whole world's vaccine supply except for China and Russia. Of all the things that are out there,

2:50:55 What could cause an excess in a single year of 10 million deaths? longest time that it wasn't a depopulation agenda, but ultimately the evidence persuaded me within the Pfizer documents That's exactly what it is. They knew they were blocking women's ovaries with lipid nanoparticles. They knew the lipid nanoparticles traverse the placenta. They determined that the deaths of fetuses were due to maternal exposure, quote unquote, to the vaccine. They knew that vaccinated women who were nursing their babies were making the babies sick. There are charts. This is why I say Mengele science. They're just charts showing

2:51:37 This many thousands of babies are vomiting. This many thousands of babies have edema, which is swollen flesh. This many thousands of babies have convulsions. You know, one baby died of multi-organ system failure. I've got Bill Gates bemoaning the First Amendment. And saying we need to strengthen ways to shut down people. But everything he said about the shop that it was safe and effective and that it would keep you from getting COVID or spreading it, that's now been admitted to Ob-Lai. They're the ones with the record of misinformation, disinformation. If you want to open your history books and look at the biggest purveyor of misinformation in history, do you want to be on the side of the group that attacked him?

2:52:15 Or would you rather be him, Galileo? Galileo was absolutely crushed as somebody not just misinformed, but dangerously misinformed. A threat to the world order and the Spanish Inquisition had their way with him. It's the same thing about COVID. What's dangerous is when you have a physician or a physician group that becomes evangelical to a cause, not a religious cause, a medical cause. So when the regulators got involved, that's when the excesses come in. Think about now are striving to get to the vaccine. What's where the excesses with masking and lockdowns? Who are the evangelist?

2:53:00 Dr. Birx, who runs around the country convincing regulators and governors that they must lock down their states or they're going to kill people if they don't. And that the evangelical physician is where the excesses came from. My question is, you are mandating a black vaccine platform, the mRNA vaccine platform. You're requiring people to get that. Why aren't you as enthusiastic about the whole viral vaccines like Covaxin or Novavax, older platforms that have equal efficacy? Novavax has some of the problems of the mRNA vaccine too, by the way. But why are we even talking about those? Why are there only two brands, literally two brands,

2:53:42 all you were mandating all the way down to the age of, to early childhood. So Bill Gates has always been on record along with his dad that had a planned parenthood, he wants to depopulate you. If you want to get to zero, you don't get to skip buildings or agriculture or industry or electricity or transport. You don't even get to skip planes or boats. You know, you've got to have it all. And then he's doing it to us. He's the field marshal, the top general, the chairman. And then people still like, that's like a show, Alex Jones, that's entertainment over there. That's that crazy guy. He says crazy stuff. No, I'm not saying crazy stuff. They're doing crazy stuff, out of control, dangerous stuff, psychotic mass murder stuff. And I'm up here being attacked and demonized for trying to stop them.

CHAPTER 39 / 48 Discussion

Dr. Joost Meerloo and "The Rape of the Mind"

Guest host Jay Dyer begins an analysis of Dr. Joost Meerloo's 1956 book, "The Rape of the Mind." Dyer explains how Meerloo, a psychological warfare expert, identified the techniques used by totalitarian regimes to control the masses. The discussion covers the historical use of sorcery, drugging, and ancient mystery cults as foundations for modern social engineering.

joost meerloo· rape of the mind· psychological warfare· totalitarianism· sorcery· drugging

2:54:34 While other networks lie to you about what- the post psyops world, the psyops that were used to roll out and convince everybody of COVID. We're going to be talking about the book by Dr. Joost Merloo, The Rape of the Mind. This is a book that was published in 1956. And it was a summary of the work that he had done as a psychological warfare expert to the allies during World War II. So he had done a lot of research and information for the Netherlands Army.

2:55:14 during World War II and kind of summarized all of his studies about totalitarian regimes. It's not just about the Axis powers, it's also a lot of information and a lot of chapters that dealt with the Soviets and the communists and the Marxists and their approach to control. And the book is, I think, really relevant for today, especially if we had been aware of this book. I didn't hear about it until somebody mentioned it in association with Dr. Malone's research. the COVID madness that we had to deal with. And they were pointing out how prescient Merleau's book was and how much apparently Dr. Malone was kind of preceded or had ideas that preceded him in this book by Merleau. And so in Rape of the Mind, he wants to cover the idea of what totalitarian regimes require. What must they do to survive? What are all of their techniques and their strategies? What are the things that they roll out?

2:56:12 To control the masses and again this is 1956 recounting a lot of what he had gone through and studied in regard to the followers of Hitler, but also the Soviets. Now he notes at the beginning, something you wouldn't expect. You would think, okay, this is gonna be about psyops, it's gonna be about human trickery and all that. But he begins by talking about the necessary basis in mind control in terms of ancient cults and the occult. And he says that what must be understood by the competent social engineer or the totalitarian regime is the techniques that were used by ancient religious cults, shamans, sorcerers, wizards,

2:56:53 even in the ancient world. So sorcery, black magic, a lot of that had to do with casting a spell on your target audience to convince them to control, or basically to convince them to worship the state leader. So most ancient world religions and cults were essentially tied to the deity or the divinization of some state leader and the worship of that state leader. Be it a pharaoh, be it an emperor, or whoever, a king, whatever, and they were all tied to the deity. And so the king was always very interested in whatever techniques and tricks he could use. And if he could really control the priest class or utilize the tricks of the priest craft, then he would have a tremendous amount of control. There'd be a lot of tools at his hand that he could use. And one of those is, of course, drugging. And so a lot of today's drug warfare or drugging of the population actually has its origins in ancient religious

2:57:51 and drugging ceremonies. For example, we covered a few months ago here on the fourth hour, the Cambridge companion to Western esotericism and occultism. There was a chapter on the ancient mysteries and we talked about how in the ancient mysteries rituals, you had the process of initiation for the Mystiae, the Eleusinian mysteries who prepared for many, many years to undergo this ritual. They didn't know what to expect. It was a great secret they're given high doses of a hallucinogenic drink. The woman pops out who's the goddess and she dances naked or whatever. They bring in some popcorn or something like a corn, a stalk of corn which is supposed to represent the goddess, I don't know. But it sounds like something pretty intense. There's smoke and mirrors and so if you're tripping balls, this would really blow your mind. You would be initiated and it would be a powerful means of controlling this hallucinogenic drink.

2:58:44 State associated cult in this case, the ancient mysteries, the eldest, and it mysteries. Modern regimes were very interested in studying those techniques as well as things like medieval witchcraft or the techniques and principles of how a witch or a sorceress might put something in her enemy's drink or something like this. And so poisonings and so forth, assassinations in the history of Europe, these were always very interesting on the modern And in terms of the vantage point of the technocratic regimes that were rising at the time of World War II. And this book is gonna be very important because this anticipates the rise of technocracy. I think that's the most prescient aspect of this book. I mean, yes, he talks about what basically would be called mass formation psychosis. But he also goes into great depth about

CHAPTER 40 / 48 Discussion

Menticide and the Power of Intentional Contradictions

Jay Dyer explores the concept of "menticide," or the death of the mind, as a tool for tyrannical regimes. He argues that the intentional use of rapid-fire contradictions—such as changing mask mandates during COVID-19—is a calculated technique to demoralize the population. This process forces individuals to surrender their critical thinking to the state.

menticide· fact checkers· contradictions· fauci· covid-19· psychological warfare· logic

2:59:35 Particularly the chapter as we're going to see a little bit predicting the rise of the machines, the rise of machine man and the dangers that that would have for society as a whole. if we allow this technocratic system to come into full fruition. He talks about menticide. Menticide is essentially the death of the mind. And all centralized totalitarian regimes of whatever flavor, they have this impetus, the desire to ultimately utilize the technique of menticide to destroy the minds of their population. Now you think, well, what

3:00:11 Why would they wanna do that? Don't they wanna mind control the population? Well, you'll see why because he's gonna list all of these great insightful techniques that, remember, this is supposed to be the followers of Tiny Mustache Man, the Hitlerian. These are the ultimate tyrants according to Merleau at the time of 1956, closely followed according to his analysis. I'm not saying he's right about everything, but closely followed by Stalin and the KGB and all that. But what he lists pales in comparison to where we are now. That's the crazy part of this book. We're ten times further down the rabbit hole than what he describes about the regimes in the 1940s and 50s. He says that menticide is a key component of the tyrannical regime because the mind must be controlled so that it doesn't have any other things to look to or access to critique the regime. For example,

3:01:11 objective truth cannot exist with a tyrannical regime for many reasons. But for one, because the regime has to dictate truth, it has to dictate what's true and false, regardless of what's actually true and false. It must be the source and the creator of the true and the false. Thus, any competing systems or standards are necessarily enemies of the totalitarian regime. So there can't be fact checkers that are objective fact checkers. It has to be fact checkers by the system. There has to be Snopes based fact check. It has to be InfraGard or whatever the various Bill Gates fact checkers are, which are all just gonna back up what Bill Gates wants, right? There has to be system control of all of those types of checks and balances because the regime's number one goal is control.

3:02:01 He says that in order to further menticide, not only must we have a drug in the population, a dumbing down of the population through the drugging, but also this was something that I think people still haven't figured out, especially in the normie conservatives here. People still haven't figured out that, think about this, in the 1950s, Merleau understood that even the Axis regimes and the communist regimes knew the power of contradictions. Think about that. They knew the power of the system intentionally rolling out a bunch of contradictions in a row. And you may think, well, wait a minute. No, that just means they're incompetent, right? The boobs in Washington, throw the bums out. No, no, the system which is run by people above that is very cognizant of the power of intentionally rolling out contradictions to throw the audience, throw the population off balance.

3:02:57 In other words, intentional contradictions, throwing them out in a very fast paced way is a known technique of tyrannical regimes. Think about back in the time of the COVID nonsense. We heard one week a mask, you're supposed to put it on and it protects you. The next week, no, take your mask off. Next week, no, you don't wear two or three masks, right? And Fauci would intentionally contradict himself. And everybody's, look at this idiot Fauci, he's so stupid. He says they're not stupid, they're cunning. So don't mistake cunning for stupidity. Now sometimes people in the system are stupid, that's true. The layer of the government apparatus are a lot of idiots. They think islands tip over, islands are floating. But that layer of idiocy there is there for a reason. And we have to be cognizant of that to understand that people way above that, the people that we're talking about today, the social engineers, the technocrats, that Dr. Jus Malone was warning about in his 1956 book, same methodology, same game plan, same worldview today.

CHAPTER 41 / 48 Discussion

Pavlovian Conditioning and the Creation of "Machine Man"

Jay Dyer discusses Ivan Pavlov's influence on modern mind control, focusing on the idea that man is a "manimal" without a soul. He links Pavlovian operant conditioning to Western psychological research funded by the Rockefeller Foundation. Dyer argues that these studies aim to create a "blank slate" population that can be re-imprinted by the state.

pavlov· operant conditioning· machine man· mkultra· bf skinner· carl rogers· materialism

3:03:59 Same people, same power structure today. They know that by pushing contradictions, by pushing again the mass drug in the population, they can create a form of menticide in the population by which the population is under a spell and surrenders their critical thinking faculties to some other entity, namely the corporate state. Now when we talk about mass drugging, remember there was no such thing at this time in terms of World War II of big pharma. Big pharma was really kind of in the works to begin to grow around this time. And a lot of the drug research at World War II, this is where we get things like MK Ultra and the production of LSD and all that, that actually comes out of this time.

3:04:41 Now, what would he say about what we've seen in the last few years with the power of big pharma and its tentacles all over the globe to be involved in this corporate slash US Department of Defense rollout of all of this nonsense of the last four or five years? By the way, they're still pushing that you need to get your stabbies, right, your vaccines. than the things that he's describing in the 1950s. And according to various calculations, the estimates are what, 14 to 20 million that have died as a result of these so-called vaccinations, which are experimental gene therapies. I mean, that's again, a vast number of people worldwide.

3:05:33 Now he goes back to discussing examples of brainwashing in his time that are kind of key case examples. He mentions the famous case of Cardinal Buzynski, the Roman Catholic cardinal who was taken in by the communist and was given a lot of brainwashing techniques. He was put through a lot of brainwashing techniques, he was put through a lot of torture. And he talks about how this was really experimental to see what worked best to wear this man down. And that if you could break the person, if you could debase them, morally break them through whatever techniques work the best, then you could extrapolate that and use that on a mass scale. And what have we been saying for so long about these individual studies, these individual psychological profiles of

3:06:21 Well, we put this test subject through all of this torture and chaos and mind control and even studies done in prison camps, concentration camps, labor camps, mindless labor and so forth. What works the best to cause menticide? Because the purpose of menticide is not to create a bunch of mindless vegetables in the mental institute. But rather to break the population, break the individual so that they don't utilize critical thinking and then become re-imprinted repeaters of the state. That's the key thing here. They become this sort of thing that you could, a blank slate, a tabula rasa that the state can then re-imprint the new man upon.

3:07:08 And part of the reason they believe this at this time was that it was very popular, especially amongst Soviets. Not so much amongst the National Socialists, but amongst the Communists and Soviets to believe that man was a blank slate. Man was in fact a completely determined stimulus response creature like Pavlov's dogs. I'm going to get to Pavlov's dogs in a minute, but Pavlov's dogs are relevant because He's a key figure, not just in the Soviet experience of the creation of the new man, but actually becomes a model for many people in the West who we might think are the opponents of Sovietism. But in fact, are doing exactly the same studies, exactly the same types of research, and have exactly the same materialist atheist presuppositions as someone like Pavlov. And I'm speaking of people like Carl Rogers, BF Skinner, and others who were supported by the Rockefeller Foundation.

CHAPTER 42 / 48 Discussion

Cultural Relativism, Fake Guilt, and Dissociation

Jay Dyer analyzes how regimes use "fake guilt" and cultural relativism to destabilize Western society. He argues that pushing narratives that contradict biological reality, such as modern gender theory, creates a dissociative state in the population. This dissociation makes the public more reliant on the state to define their reality.

cultural relativism· colonialism· critical race theory· dissociation· gender· tavistock institute

3:08:02 the Rockefeller Foundation is going to put money into fighting the bad guys over in Moscow and the Soviets. No, they're all studying the same stuff, which is control of the human mind. Before we get to Pavlov though, there's a couple other things that Merleau mentions. He says that we have this drug in the society, we have this propaganda in society, we have this brainwashing in society, the intentional pushing of contradictions. But we also have the idea of fake guilt, and I thought this was very interesting. And I think it's a very interesting because at this time, of course, the Soviets and other regimes, the communists were utilizing this notion of how bad everyone in the West is because of colonialism. And you tried to foist your culture upon someone else and you rape these cultures just for profit as if cultural relativism is true. Well, no, in fact, some cultures are better than other cultures. Some cultures are wicked and degenerate.

3:09:03 Some cultures cook kitties for lunch and others don't. So cultural relativism is not true. But the presupposition of all of the leftists and the social justice warriors and the activists is that cultural relativism is true. And all cultures are relative. There's no absolute that can judge between the cultures as good or bad. But the problem then becomes, well, wait a minute, but the same people who say that turn around and say, you're all collectively guilty in the West. White men are guilty in the West. Because of colonialism and critical race theory and all this stuff. But wait a minute, I thought that you're a cultural relativist. If everything is relative, then there's nothing wrong with this culture doing colonialism or that culture doing or whatever. All things are relative, right? So then you have no basis to turn around and say, evil white man, British Empire colonialism.

3:09:55 slavery and different types of techniques of deception or whatever. But my point is that if you're an atheist relativist social justice warrior, there's nothing wrong with anything. You might not like it, but it's not actually quote wrong. But you see the fissure in the mind of the individuals who believe in this, the dissociation that begins to happen. And that's very important because, I think, Merleau goes on to talk about tyrannical regimes are not only themselves dissociative, they foist dissociation on the population. In other words, the population themselves dissociate. Why is that? Why would they want that in terms of the process of menticide? Well, one reason for that is because the regimes themselves are at war with objective truth, as we said, right? There can be no competing standards which the regime

3:10:52 the tyrannical system must submit to because it must dictate truth. If capital T truth exists or objective truth exists, then the regime is bound by certain limitations and certain principles. It can't do whatever it wants. Thus, if a regime desires to do whatever it wants, raw pure power, brutal Nietzschean power, the overman or whatever, the over will, will to power, then that regime Must those were at war against truth, but since there is truth this creates a fissure within the system itself. The system itself is thus warring on what is actually objectively objectively the case.

3:11:35 there are no biological men and women. If the regime adopts this position, and then foist this and pushes this on everyone as it has nowadays, unfortunately, and this goes back to the Tavistock Institute and what they pioneered in the last 10 years to push as a form of psychological warfare and mind control. Then they've created an immediate fissure between reality and what the regime dictates as reality. But then there's a mirrored aspect to this where when they push this because the society looks to the nanny state, the daddy state, which is odd. Why is there a nanny state and daddy state if there's no genders? But let's say that it's not about being consistent, it's about being inconsistent on purpose. So now we have this idea that the population is then being told by their authority structure that there actually isn't male and female. That it's actually a social construct, that you can actually become whatever you want.

CHAPTER 43 / 48 Discussion

Generational Psyops and the "Womb State"

Jay Dyer examines the generational impact of psychological warfare, specifically targeting the Baby Boomer generation through the 1960s counterculture. He introduces the concept of the "womb state," where the population is kept in a state of "neoteny" or arrested development. Dyer argues that mass media and television have been used to kill creativity and foster a docile, childlike public.

boomers· gen x· counterculture· neoteny· womb state· psychological warfare· television

3:12:35 this creates the dissociative state in the mass population who buys into the collective delusion. So there's a reflexive symbiotic relationship then between the system pushing delusion, which they know is not true, but they think they can dictate truth. The population then experiences that dissociation and then further looks to the state to confirm and affirm and back up its collective delusion. And it's not just about gender, that's just an easy example. It's also about, as we've seen in the last several years, the medical establishment's lies about itself and its sacraments of stabbies, the stabby sacrament. And everything that Merleau describes in many of the chapters about the way the totalitarian regime works is that it works like a cult, works like a religious establishment. And boy, are the parallels striking when we think about the last few years.

3:13:32 the dogmas of big pharma and the CDC and the Rockefeller Foundation and Bill Gates and the WHO and all these people, right? They're dogmas about medicine and experimental therapy, gene therapies and all this. Well, they're the system, they're the establishment, right? And how does every boomer think? Well, they wouldn't be in power if they didn't have something right. How come you ain't up there in power if you know so much about what you're talking about? I'm on my sixth stabby and I feel good. And then he dies next year. I'm not trying to be mean, but I heard that and had that debate many times in the last five or six years, right? Now, to be fair, during the period when Quigley talks about, in Tragedy and Hope, the rise of the managerial state, he says that the next generation, and he's talking about the boomer generation because he was a generation above them. He says they will be indoctrinated into what we call managerial rule by experts.

3:14:34 So unfortunately, the boomers were actually the first to really be that baby boomer generation to really be indoctrinated into the ideas of looking to the medical experts. And we could have never had KUF and all this happen, did we not have a baby boomer generation who was indoctrinated by a design into worshipping their doctors and their big pharma establishment. That's their church, that's their sacrament that they look to. And so nobody who questioned this would ever have any hope of stopping all this nonsense the last four years, had not the boomers as a collective generation who have most of the wealth and were in power at this time, foisting this on the rest of the country.

3:15:14 I'm not just blaming boomers. This was a intentional propaganda that was geared at their generation as a test bed for the latest in sophistication of psychological warfare at that time. Now remember Merleau is writing a generation ahead of that. But what Merleau is describing in his book is what you see manifested in the next generation, because he's greatest generation, in the boomers. And what is their generation given as their collective delusion and mythology? Total liberation through the 1960s counterculture, which was given to them by design. A fake guilt of the older generation, which the younger boomer generation adopted as their form of activism.

3:16:02 to bring social justice. This is where you begin to see social justice warrior stuff. It comes from this period of the 1960s boomers. You can look to people like Tim Leary and to people like Terrence McKenna and to people like Barbara Marks Hubbard, to people like Jane Goodall. This generation was flooded with this idea. They were broken through the mentiside of the psyops of the generation prior to be a generation That again would look to the experts reject to the traditional conservative ideas of religion they would experiment with new ways of living by design which Alvin Toffler says was done by design Stanford research gave all that by design changing images a man etc.

3:16:44 They would then raise a generation of Gen X who would pioneer the notions of the next phase of social justice warrior. The grunge movement, the grunge bands, MTV, Pearl Jam, all this stuff and the nauseating social justice mindset of people like Eddie Vedder, etc. We're talking about psyops and the generational destruction, menticide here on the fourth hour of the Alex Jones Show, I'm your guest host, Jay Dyer. Turmeric has been used as a medicine for thousands of years to treat digestive disorders, respiratory problems, arthritis and depression. It has strong anti-cancer, anti-diabetic, antimicrobial and antioxidant properties and is one of the most effective anti-inflammatory medications available.

CHAPTER 44 / 48 Discussion

Cybernetics and the Feedback Loop of Control

Jay Dyer connects Pavlov's research to the development of cybernetics by Norbert Wiener at MIT. He explains that the "feedback loop" of stimulus and response is the foundation for modern social media addiction and transhumanist goals. Dyer argues that the elite aim to master the human mind by treating it as a programmable machine.

cybernetics· norbert wiener· mit· feedback loop· transhumanism· pavlov· stimulus response

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3:18:58 a little more in-depth style with more films. So shorter analyses, more hard-hitting information and more films. So look for that in the coming months. You can get Essendrick Hollywood 1 and 2 signed copies in the shop at jasonalsys.com. You can also follow me over on Rockfield. I did just put up a exclusive one and a half hour interview with most famous living gangster, Sammy DeVolto Gravano. Now we're talking about Soviet creation of machine man. I was talking about the boomers and how they were given a certain specific line of indoctrination. So I want to go now to Pavlov, because Pavlov is a very important character in the history of mind control and technocratic engineering. And he's probably the most famous of the Soviet social engineers and technocrats because

3:19:53 This whole position was based around what we call operant conditioning. And this is the idea that man is basically an animal. There is no soul. The soul is a fairy tale, a medieval fiction. Man is an operant response machine that is dictated by external stimuli. And so if you can perfect the external stimuli, then you can control the input outputs. And thus you can create a completely controlled, refurbished, Machine man who's an animal thus you could call him manimal. So it's pretty much literally Pavlov's views that man is a manimal and his goal with all this was to quote get rid of man's inner resistance.

3:20:35 To what? To the state, to the absolute technocratic control. He's a perfect example of what we see embodied in the figure of someone like O'Brien in 1994 when Winston and O'Brien are having that discourse about truth. And how again, as I've said many times, O'Brien says that you have to believe that the state, that the system, the corporate state in our case, dictates reality itself. So Pavlov is tasked then with being able to find the techniques to do this. What are the techniques to create the Soviet man, as he called it, the machine man, the manimal? So you can begin to see that already, this is technocracy. This is the idea that man is already just a machine. And Merlue says that the real origin of where Pavlov got this was accepting Descartes'

3:21:31 view of the universe, a deistic mechanistic view of the universe. I mean, Descartes was maybe perhaps deistic, but in the case of Pavlov is just strict materialism and atheism. And so man is really just another collection of molecules. There's nothing special about him. He's just like any other collection of molecules. And so when you have a collection of a dog that you need to train, you train him with the bell and the food and the Pavlovian ring the bell system, right? as Will Smith sang about, you can ring my bell. So the dog, Will Smith, you can ring my bell. This is the whole model of Pavlov because if you could control perfectly and understand the stimulus response, the external stimuli, the internal response, and then this feedback loop, you could therefore master man. So he actually had the belief not just that you could destroy the inner resistance, you could also master the individual man

3:22:30 completely reshape and reform and re-imprint him through this operant conditioning to be the perfect Soviet man, the perfect collective man. Man can be totally controlled and explained, he said. And this was the purpose of a lot of these experiments. He also was involved in other things I'm sure you've heard of, like where you see the famous experiments of the mouse. And the mouse is standing on an electrical grid. And if he does the right thing by eating the food or whatever, he doesn't get shocked. If he does something wrong, he gets shocked. And so electroshock conditioning with mice and probably with humans as well, this is all part of Pavlovianism.

CHAPTER 45 / 48 Discussion

MKUltra Evolution and Transhumanist DARPA Projects

Jay Dyer discusses the evolution of the MKUltra project into modern transhumanist initiatives. He cites the work of Dr. Jose Delgado on physical control of the mind and links it to current DARPA and RAND Corporation research into implantable microchips and human augmentation. Dyer argues that the goal is to create a "cyborg man" with no inner resistance to the state.

mkultra· darpa· rand corporation· jose delgado· microchips· super soldiers· human augmentation

3:23:10 And so what we get out of this is the idea of the feedback loop. Now, that's very important because you might think, well, what does this have to do with machines? And what does this have to do with transhumanism? Well, the idea of creating and controlling a machine man is picked up by other people, not just in the West in terms of psychology, people like Carl Rogers and BF Skinner and others who are working on similar types of projects. But This filters over into the idea of Norbert Wiener's cybernetics. If you don't know, Norbert Wiener is of course sort of the father of modern cybernetics and a lot of his research was done at MIT. But what a lot of people don't know is if you read Norbert Wiener's book Cybernetics, the first 20 pages deals with all of these foundations and people funding him, promoting and supporting his research.

3:24:03 that just happened to be the Macy Foundation, the Rockefeller Foundation, and other CIA connected outfits that are going under cut out names. So cybernetics, according to Norbert Wiener himself, was funded by all of these cutouts, foundations, elite technocratic operators, that then becomes what we know of as MIT. So he goes to do all of this, a lot of experiments, and I think he traveled somewhere to do a bunch of research under the Rockefeller aegis, and then he goes back to MIT. So MIT becomes the hub of a lot of this.

3:24:43 And then he pioneers at MIT this whole discipline of cybernetics. They're working together with studies that you and Cameron was doing at Mont Royal in Canada and McGill University. So we start to get the idea that, wait a minute, MKUltra is not just mind control and drugs and assassins and hypnosis. That's just one tiny part of it. Turns out MKUltra is actually dozens of projects, dozens of experiments, dozens of universities worldwide. In fact, there's men culture projects and research that was being done in Australia that people we've only learned about this in the last 10 years through the Internet. In fact, so even in the 1950s, when Merleau is writing about what Pavlov is up to.

3:25:28 Merlot doesn't even seem to be aware of the fact that a lot of this type of research is being done in the West, the so-called free allies studies. The free West at the Davos dot clinic because all the same people and entities that Norbert Wiener lists the Macy Foundation, the Rockefellers and all that. Well, guess what? They're also all tied into the Davos dot clinic. So keep in mind the idea that the West are the good guys fighting the Eastern atheist bad guys during this time period is just simply not really the case. The elites in both of these systems are atheists and they're both working on all the same types of projects to perfect mind control. What happened? Did I give birth?

3:26:20 A bunch of fireworks just went off, I don't know. Am I coming out as a boy? Is this my gender reveal? Or am I coming out as a girl? Right, so transhumanism is actually an end result of this whole project of what Pavlov was up to, even though he might not have known immediately about transhumanism. He specifically wanted to create the perfectly conditioned stimulus response machine, Manimal. And this influences later research into the notion of cyborg man. Now you might think, what does that have to do with any of us? Well, social media And its feedback loop stimulus response has been studied for many years as well by the pioneers of Silicon Valley pushing out all the, remember a few years ago when Jason Lanier and the other people from Facebook were talking about how Facebook was put out to really mind control and destroy people through this feedback loop. And the engineers, remember they were admitting all this, and that they had invented all these different techniques to addict you and to get you upset and all this kind of stuff.

3:27:26 So the feedback loop is not just about theoretical in culture research and mind controlling people in a lab or whatever. It's about projecting this and using this on a mass scale. That's what all this research is about. And all the same entities behind Tavistock and involved in the Tavistock are the same entities behind the MKUltra project and the same entities behind Norbert Wiener and cybernetics. And that's where we get transhumanism today. This ties into DARPA, this ties into the RAND Corporation studies and all that into creating and controlling and mastering.

3:28:01 his inner resistance to break it down. Now remember the two famous MKUltra books that were first published in the late 70s, Walter Bullard's book Operation Mind Control and John Marks' book CIA in the Search for the Venturing Candidate. Both books end with a chapter on where MKUltra went after it was supposedly shut down. Was it completely shut down? Well, of course not. It changed names and developed into other projects, MKSearch, MKDelta, and other things. focusing on implantable microchips, genetic modification, human augmentation, super soldiers, etc, etc. So it became transhumanism. For example, look up Dr. Jose Delgado's famous book, which you can't find actually, thankfully do have a copy of it, Physical Control of the Mind, Dr. Jose Delgado.

CHAPTER 46 / 48 Discussion

Walter Lippmann and the Engineering of Public Opinion

Jay Dyer explains how Walter Lippmann and the Tavistock Institute perfected the technique of engineering public opinion through fake polls and advertising. He argues that the system uses these tools to create a "monoculture" where the population's thoughts are homogenized. Dyer notes that these techniques were pioneered in the West to control the "free" population.

walter lippmann· public opinion· tavistock institute· advertising· propaganda· fake polls

3:28:57 So Pavlov is one of these key figures that contributes to the creation of mass man, collective man, Soviet man. Well, guess who was studying the same types of stuff in the West to create mass man, not through a centralized state control, but through advertising and through public opinion polls. Walter Lippmann, who also worked with Tavistock, public opinion. In the 1920s, they had perfected the technique of mass mind controlling people through opinion polls, fake polls. What they would do is they would take public polls and they would get real information and data, see what the people really thought. And if they wanted to tweak where they wanted people to go, if too many people were against a war or something like this, well, what they do is put out a poll that lies and says that, well, you know most people support this thing, this war, this policy.

3:29:51 And they realized that because most people had a tendency to want to be part of the group, they would change their opinion and go with the majority because they didn't wanna be in the minority. So this inherent weakness in human nature to project glory, to want to be part of the winning team, to want to be part of the group and the collective, they played upon that and they perfected the technique of fake and lying polls. We've seen fake and lying polls. Every day in the last five, six, ten years, right? I mean, polls lie all the time. The job reports, Kamala is suddenly the most popular person in the world. All of this fake polls and so forth. That's all perfected social engineering techniques out of Tavistock and out of Walter Lippmann and people who were actually working in advertising. So this begins in domains of advertising in the West.

3:30:41 it's the super state Soviet state wanting to control the individuals. And all of this, as we said, was to ultimately depersonalize and to dissociate the minds of the target population. He goes on to talk about the key components of the super state, the technocratic state, Dr. Malou, of using medical submission, medicine, the medical, psychiatric, pharmaceutical arm. Again, big pharma is not here yet, but the state's use of these things was being pioneered, especially at the time of World War II and by the Soviets. This was to ultimately create addicts.

3:31:18 You think, well, not necessarily to make everybody a drug addict. Well, actually to a degree, yes, to make everyone a drug addict. Think about how many boomers rely on these pharmaceuticals and these, I remember one of my good friends, dad, before he passed away, he had a shelf that he took 15 different pharmaceutical pills every day. And it was obvious that the pills were killing him. But in his mind, because the doctor told him that he had to take these 15 different pharmaceutical pills every day, That's the doctor, what the doctors are God and what they say is law. Even though doctors are basically glorified pharmaceutical salesmen for the most part, not all doctors are bad, I'm just saying. Now, how did they get to this? Well, again, they utilize studies about mass movements, mass populations, how populations want to

3:32:08 And so you do what you're told the majority says. Of course, mass media plays a key role in that. So remember, even though Soviets are studying the mass man for state purposes, in the West, advertising agencies and corporations are studying the same stuff to homogenize the mindset of the population in supposedly the free West. But it's the same techniques and strategies to homogenize and collectivize. This is where Merleau's book gets very prophetic, because he has an entire chapter about what TV and mass media was doing in the 1940s and 50s. So think about this, this is way before any of the madness that we have today. He was warning about in his day in the 40s and 50s, he already saw TV addiction as a key means by which the state was able to propagandize and control the populations. So I'm not in the West.

CHAPTER 47 / 48 Discussion

Television Addiction and the Magic Circle of Discourse

Jay Dyer concludes his analysis of "The Rape of the Mind," focusing on how television creates a "womb state" of passivity. He introduces the "magic circle" of discourse, where the regime limits the range of acceptable questions to prevent the public from discovering deeper truths. Dyer emphasizes that the system's use of lies is a deliberate technique to keep the opposition off-balance.

television· magic circle· discourse· neoteny· womb state· psychological warfare· propaganda

3:33:09 television has the ability, he says, to addict people because it creates fantasy worlds where people who are under tyrannical regimes will retreat to escape the dullness, the boredom, the tyranny that's actually going on in the real life under the tyrannical regime. And so the tyrannical state must have all forms of leisure, all forms of bread and circuses and entertainment that allow the population to direct their misery into through dissociation and through fantasy worlds. He says that what will happen is that TV and television and ultimately mass media will kill creativity. Why would TV kill creativity? Well, he says, the ease and the convenience of this information in the time of television, remember this is way before Internet.

3:34:06 He says that this will create a population who doesn't want to go through the hard work of reading a book when they can just watch it on TV. And so the mind will dull and will become less creative because not only does TV make people lazy because they won't read the book, they'll just go and watch some movie or some television version of it. People will be less able to read, they will be less able to critically analyze and think, And they will be less creative because of the reliance on the ease and the convenience of immediate media. And it's about 1000 times worse now, isn't it? Than just the 1940s and 50s television. Another thing that mass culture will do and mass television brainwashing will do is create monoculture. Instead of going to a city or to some place to

3:35:00 exotic foods or to learn about other cultures, you'll watch it on TV. Why go there when I can watch it on TV? But what that does is that that will also create a monoculture where the screens will admit to everyone what is the acceptable thing to believe, what is the acceptable culture to accept and to care about, what are the things to not care about. In other words, we'll control and mandate what even questions can be asked. Now this is a very important issue because, for example, think back to the coup, right? In that time period of the COVID, there was all these debates going back and forth, right? And I'm not saying that lab leak and all this stuff wasn't a valid discussion to have or debate or whatever. But there were only certain things that you were allowed to even discuss during that time period.

3:35:54 Were we allowed to even discuss in the public sphere the fact that these exercises like event 201 and the spars document and Klaydex and crimson contagion and on and on and on that that might have been examples of pre planning for this? No, that's not even a valid question to even ask. You can't even bring that up. This is called the magic circle. And famous philosophers like Eric Bogle and talked about this because he says in tyrannical technocratic regimes, the magic circle is necessary to absolutely control discourse. And the way that works is that just simply you can't ask any questions that are outside of the circle of acceptable discourse. And so all the system has to do is make sure that no one is asking any questions or bringing anything into focus outside of the controlled circle.

3:36:42 So you're free to debate whatever you want within this, just never anything outside of it. For example, the two party system, which we've had, which is super corrupt for so long. Nope, you're allowed to forever debate normie Republicans and the normie Democrats, and never anything outside of that. It's a classic example. So controlling the narrative, controlling the system, controlling the perception of the population is more important. But to get back to the technocratic state, the tyrannical technocratic state, what must it do? It must, as he says, again, this is a very crucial point, it must engage in the technique. This is not idiocy, this is a technique of lie upon lie that are introduced at a rapid pace on purpose

3:37:37 which is an intentional technique of contradicting. The system is contradicting on purpose. Why? Because it forces the population to become passive and catatonic in the face of the power structure that they look to abusing them. It's a form of Stockholm syndrome, you could say. So it demoralizes the population because, get this, It's an intentional technique to not allow the target population or the opposition any time to actually reply with a reasoned response based on logic and reason. In other words, the technique must rely on fast contradictions and lies. Think about perfect example of Fauci in the whole coup crisis, intentionally just saying ridiculous things.

3:38:26 and changing what the science says. And then saying he is science, just totally just nonsense stuff. But that was not an accident. That was a technique that's used by tyrannical regimes, use lies and make them big, and then do another one really quick. And the opposition is thrown into a tizzy. They're off balance. Before they replied to the first lie, there's a new lie. And then when they try to reply to the second, there's a new one. And how long has Alex been saying? Alex has been saying this for 20 plus years that the system will do these lies on purpose. And yet we have Matt Walsh and all the normie conservatives that say we're ruled by idiots and the boobs in Washington. We're ruled by dummies. Well, Biden doesn't know where he is. They knew in the 1950s and 40s that a regime can do this as a technique.

3:39:19 Another key thing is that the public must be kept not just docile and stupid and all fat and all that, but they must be kept in a childlike state. This is a very prescient chapter, very important chapter, he calls the womb state. So it's not just that there's the big brother, daddy, nanny state, or the mommy state, there's the womb state. The population must be kept in a super duper arrested development status, the more dumb and childlike the better, and this is called neoteny. Or at least in young men or young women or young people when they're not sufficiently mature, appropriate to their age. This is called neoteny. This is I'm living in mommy's basement. She feeds me chicken tendies and choccy milk. And I do my activism on the Internet and I live on Reddit or something like this, right? Neoteny.

CHAPTER 48 / 48 Discussion

Dr. Peter McCullough on Vaccine Detoxification Protocols

The broadcast concludes with a repeat of Dr. Peter McCullough's segment on COVID-19 vaccine injuries and detoxification. McCullough details the "McCullough Protocol," which utilizes natokinase, bromelain, and curcumin to dissolve blood clots and clear spike proteins from the body. He directs listeners to onlinehealthnow.com for more information on these supplements.

peter mccullough· spike protein· natokinase· bromelain· curcumin· vaccine injury· myocarditis

3:40:09 How does neoteny occur? Well, the super state, the super regime utilizes the manipulation of archetypes, particularly to reflect the individual or the society's image of the father or the mother upon the state. The state becomes the archetypal father and mother to the individuals, and the role of the actual father and mother must be destroyed, thus the destruction of family. So in order to have a population that looks to and is ruled by the mommy daddy state, the family must be destroyed. And of course, Huxley says that very clearly at the very beginning of Brave New World.

3:40:46 The state must be seen as the mommy and the daddy, and not just that, but also as the womb. I mean, this is what Kamala is actually running on. I mean, she was saying to Drew Barrymore, they call me Kamami or something stupid like this. She wants to be the mommy. It's Kamalianism and Kamamianism, right? She wants to be the mommy to the population, and then all of the really dumbed down, super low IQ masses of people that think that she will look up to her as a perfect example of Merlot's womb state, the danger of the womb state. And so this childishness must be foisted upon the population in general and get this, he said, in this psyop of the womb state, the super state will foist upon the population. I thought this is wild cleanliness rituals, rituals that you must engage in which are irrational.

3:41:45 a good little citizen. You're keeping to the cleanliness rituals. So for example, the tyrannical dictator of the 40s and 50s, I don't know, he might make everybody go to these mass rituals and there's some form of purgation or a shouting ceremony, two minutes of hate or something like that. But I thought it was fascinating, he said that the mind control studies of the super states also looked at prison camps and mindless cleanliness rituals that you have to engage in in prison camps, why? for the purpose of mind controls and he says misplaced anger purgation. So the anger that individuals will have at the super state misdirected to mindless social distancing, mindless wearing of masks, cleanliness rituals as mind control.

3:42:31 This is the Alex Jones Show. Be sure and go over to Alex's store and buy those products and keep Alex on air. COVID vaccine causes more heart damage than COVID virus and brain, blood, immune cancer, reproductive study. I mean, there's so many studies. What do you make of that? This finally settled the question, Alex. The COVID vaccine causes myocarditis in young people, not the infection. It's a government false narrative. It's been propagated through the American College of Cardiology and other agencies. that the infection causes myocarditis. It doesn't. Looking at this, then, we see these headlines constantly when you follow the article. There's no link. There's no proof. It just says, COVID's a greater risk of heart problems than the shot. And they just lie. It's a, essentially, it's a giant medical lie perpetrated by the American College of Cardiology, the CDC, the NIH.

3:43:19 This is a false narrative. No confirmed cases by adjudication or autopsy. No hospitalizations and deaths. But the vaccine, we are, I'm a cardiologist, Alex. I am knee deep in people with vaccine myocarditis causing heart failure. The vaccines do cause heart arrhythmias in some. It's inflammation in the heart, atrial fibrillation, sometimes ventricular arrhythmias. COVID shots can enlarge and weaken the heart. Another study. Heart failure can be an outcome of subclinical myocarditis. It's very important for people to realize they may not feel chest pain initially, but then they have the onset of effort intolerance,

3:43:57 a pulmonary edema, congestion and leg swelling. I have cases from Austin, Alex referred up to my office. It's vaccine myocarditis and heart failure. They need treatment for this. The go-to is McCulloch protocol base spike protein detoxification with supplements. available through onlinehealthnow.com. Onlinehealthnow.com. We have ample data now suggesting every cancer is increasing worldwide in virtually every organ system and it's related to COVID-19 vaccines. Now I'm glad Dr. McCullough that you brought up how to detox either whether you got COVID in the wild, which you know is a lot less from the studies, bad as taking the shots, but if you want to detox

3:44:39 from it. You're one of the top research doctors out there, one of the, if not the most published. You have actually developed something, come up with something available at onlinehealthnow.com that you're saying is the go-to here. Spend a few minutes telling us about that anti-spike protein protocol. It's the base of what we do now in long COVID and vaccine injury syndromes. It's caused because of accumulation of the spike protein from the infection and in a massive doses from the vaccine, it gets stuck in the human body. We need to assist the body in clearing the spike protein. We have several years of observation, multiple peer-reviewed publications on this, very good support for doing this. It's natokinase.

3:45:23 which is a natural enzyme derived from the fermentation of soy. Japanese discovered it. Bromelain, a family of enzymes derived from the stems of pineapple. And then lastly, curcumin derived from turmeric and Indian spice. These are all in capsule format. We give them in combination in between meals, and we're using accelerating doses. People are doing this across the world right now, Alex. So you build up? And we build up. Now listen, the starting doses We're 2,000 units twice a day of natto. We're now going to 4,000 twice a day. We do give them in addition to blood thinners, and we have found sometimes it's the only way to dissolve the blood clots. When people get large vaccine blood clots, the blood thinners just hold it steady. They don't dissolve them. We actually have to give thrombolytic enzymes. That's McCulloch protocol, base spike protein detoxification.

3:46:11 And people can find out all the details of that at onlinehealthnow.com. That's the go-to place. The wellness company provides, you know, really the leading quality and the leading formulation. So the spike formulation has not only natal kinase but five minor ingredients. We combine that with the curcumin and the bromelain for what we think is the ultimate spike detox trio. Onlinehealthnow.com.