WEDNESDAY FULL SHOW 7/23/25 — Comedian Tim Dillon & Alex Jones Break Latest On Trump/Epstein Firestorm & Ask Who Is Really Running The White House! PLUS, After Obama Denied Spying On Trump, Gabbard Doubles Down, Releases Reports PROVING Obama Directly Gave Order To Publish Russia Collusion Hoax!

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00:42 New organ harvesters in Dallas, and he said don't sign your organ donor card They've got corrupt hospitals where if you are totally viable they take your organs Oh, geez and then I said dad you're crazy But I didn't sign the organ donor card and then my dad owned a hospital to endows then when I was a decade later at my grandparents' house before my grandpa died, watching 60 Minutes, and it was Dallas, Texas, and Chicago caught killing people that were viable to take their organs. Tonight, the 60 Minutes expose. And it was the freaking hospital my dad told me about. Jesus Christ. See, that's why I know about this. My dad never got fully into it. He decided to get out of it. And he decided to get out of it. You're legitimately freaking me the f*** out.

01:33 Nationwide, hospitals have been caught killing people for their organs, because I happen to know there are hospitals where they kill people and take your organs. Some of the most wicked bandits out there, folks, are in the medical care. In just a few minutes, you can go use any major search engine and search the terms hospital caught stealing organs or hospital caught stealing liver or kidneys or hospital caught stealing corneas. Where I live, Austin, Texas, they've been caught repeatedly at city-run hospitals stealing people's corneas. They do not ask, they do not care if you are an organ donor or not. They're already stealing them. We tell people 16, 17 years ago this was going on and they said there's no way you're crazy. Just like when my dad, who's a physician, told me when I went to get my driver's license, he said don't sign the organ donor card.

02:25 And I said, why? And he goes, the word is from surgeons I know at some hospitals, they won't save you because they can get a couple hundred thousand dollars. That was back in the early 90s. I remember growing up in Dallas and my dad works in the medical field, not as a dentist and oral surgeon, but he at one time owned a hospital in Mesquite, Texas with one of their partners. He's pretty successful. And he told me that he was told that other hospitals were killing people and harvesting their organs. So I shouldn't sign my organ donor card. A shocking case out of Richmond. A man was declared brain dead and was prepared to donate his organs, though hard to believe he was in fact alive. 36 year old TJ Hoover had his life changed forever on October 25th, 2021. He was admitted to Baptist Health Richmond's emergency room. He was experiencing cardiac arrest and was deemed code blue. We were told TJ had no reflexes.

03:25 No responses, no brain waves, no brain activity. His eyes started opening and not just opening, he was tracking around looking to see you know what was going on and we were told that was just reflexes, just a normal, normal instinct. He's not there. But that wasn't the case. In fact, he wasn't dead. He was very much alive. I feel like they were trying to choose my brother. They were going to sacrifice my brother's life to save How many other people? That's when she received a horrifying phone call. He was then thrashing around crying trying to pull his tooth out. He was pushing everybody's hands away that were trying to prep and drape him for surgery. And it's kind of crazy but the doctors decided we're absolutely not going to do this case.

04:10 the CODA coordinator that was on site that day actually called CODA's admin for some guidance and was told you will find another surgeon or you'll lose your job because we're going to complete this case. She said nobody, not even TJ himself, could believe what was happening. TJ has a lot of short-term memory problems but TJ knows what happened. TJ says why me? Why did they want my organs? When TJ woke up Why was he then sedated and paralyzed instead of taken back to the ICU immediately to have a repeat neural exam? Why was TJ's life not honored and he treated like a patient? The more that comes out, it's still shocking for me and I'm living it. You know, it's everyone else's story, it's our reality. And it's shocking to hear some of what he went through. Well, there you go. See, too evil to believe.

05:07 Alex Jones with us, legendary broadcaster, friend of the show. I've been lucky enough to speak to him about a lot of the crazy that has gone on the past 10 years. And we'll just come right out with it. We wanna get your read on what is going on because from the outside, the Trump administration campaigns on exposing this coverup, blowing the lid off this coverup. And then they get an office and now it seems like they're part of this cover up. So what in your estimation has happened? Well, all I can do is observe from the outside. I have a lot of sources, it's been said baseball and what's happening. But the fact I know is this 15 days ago, they leaked to Axios, the judge department, this Epstein didn't

06:11 get murdered, and there wasn't human trafficking, and there wasn't any blackmail, and case closed. And that flies in the face of the court cases, the evidence, the intelligence connections, everything we know. And then I came out on that Monday, 14 days ago, and I said, this isn't Pam Bondi, and I'm not defending her. I agree, she's in over her head, like you said. She should go back to policing jet skis in Florida. But then he comes out the next day and says on True Social, no, We need the FBI to move on. I told him to do this. The next day in a press conference, he chews out the reporter. We're talking about all these issues saying how dare you desecrate the graves of dead kids in Texas with the floods. Shut up. And it's uncharacteristic for Trump. He looks scared. He looks concerned. And then all the other true social posts about if you ask questions, you're with the Democrats.

07:06 And this is all a Democrat made up hoax. And you're just idiots. When all his surrogates had promised they'd bring this out, he talked about bringing it out. So this is Harry Carey, this is Shepaku for those that don't know in Japanese, that means suicide. And I had the head of Rasmussen polling on the best polling agency, the most accurate on record today. He said Trump has lost 14 points with independence, five points with his main base. Like Steve Bannon said a week ago, that'll lose him before Rasmussen reported it, his dead reckoning was right. 40 seats probably in the midterms in the year and a half. This is Trump self-harming and from all my research, you know, he knew Epstein they were socialites all that but They would have already used this the deep say they had something the Jane Doe's they brought out turned out weren't even real people You know, they'd said that Melania was a hooker that Epstein introduced to her at a modeling agency We look into that it was Trump's modeling agency. That wasn't true. So they're kind of regurgitating all that on one hand so why did Trump act so panic during the headlights and

08:08 And you'll come out and say, there is no list. Okay, there is a list, but you're still an idiot if you look at it. Okay, we'll have Pam Bondi release the grand jury transcripts from Ghislaine Maxwell that Comey's daughter ran the cover up on. And the Epstein case six years ago where he died in jail. So you couldn't do a bigger Streisand effect. You couldn't come out and say I'm more guilty than what he did. And my loyalties to the truth, and I'm actually autistic about it. I can't even if I want Trump to succeed and Democrats are my sworn enemy trying to put me in prison. I'm just like having to report this that this is beyond insane. And it's like Trump blowing his feet off with a 12 gauge shotgun. Well, we know that this was not only

09:02 a blackmail operation, but it was also a money laundering operation. And we know that Jeffrey Epstein was working for billionaires like Les Wexner and many others. And we know that there's been a lot of talk about the connections that Epstein had to intelligence. and moving money around the world, making sums of money disappear. Is it a complete coincidence that a lot of this seemed to happen around the time that Benjamin Netanyahu paid a visit to the White House? Well, as usual, Tim Dillon, you're very informed. I'm not just a comedian and you've nailed it. I don't want to attack Israel. I'm not a big Israel hater, but Netanyahu is, in my view, the villain of the last 25 years in Israel, in and out of power.

09:55 It definitely is the cliche of Israel trying to manipulate the United States internal politics and foreign policy, particularly in the Middle East. So definitely Netanyahu is heavily involved in. Ghislaine Maxwell, who was convicted of human trafficking, though the new memos and Trump says there is none of that, well, then how is she convicted? Her dad Robert Maxwell was on record Mossad buried Mount of Olives with military honors and MI6 and Russian intelligence reportedly fell off his yacht when all this came out. And just like when he died decades ago,

10:31 All of a sudden, billions of dollars was sucked out of his bank accounts. And so from my evidence and research, it's pretty conclusive Epstein was a junior to Giz Lane who took over the family MI6 CIA Mossad business because that level they're all interconnecting. And it was more than just trafficking underage girls that was got like a side or derv or a little writer. The larger issue was money laundering and then now the Democrats have honed in on this. I said months ago and weeks ago, that Trump needs to not just call for the grand jury stuff to be released or the stuff from her trial or the trial that ever happened because Epstein died in custody there in New York in that detention center. We should demand

11:14 It was 1.1 billion right after he died, but it was actually over a billion when he was in custody five and a half years ago in New York that was sucked out of his business account. And so we know that's at the Treasury Department. So now Senator Wyden and others as I predicted a month ago and two weeks ago before this broke, I said Trump should release it because I can see that's where it's going. Where did the billions of dollars go right before and right after he died? And so I agree with you very astute, I was gonna make that point. This isn't even so much about human trafficking as it is about the money laundering that was going on. And then you've got Bill Barr, whose dad Donald Barr ran the school, that Epstein at 20 got hired with no credentials to be the top math teacher. And then Barr was OSS CIA, his dad Donald Barr. Then Barr was CIA, kind of the head of Iran Contra operations, the White House.

12:10 And then his dad, Donald Barr, writes a book about space relations, about aliens on a planet that kidnap human girls to rape them. And then they train humans to enjoy it and join them in the raping of children. This is beyond crazy and he hires Epstein to do all this. And so yeah, Trump had beauty pageants and Trump had casinos and Trump had golf courses and Trump was involved in sporting events. And so I thought, well, they were having anything on Trump. They would have brought it out as they tried with a bunch of nothing burgers in 2016 and But now that he acted like this, I think the jury's out. But where the jury is not out is on the majority of people on the plane on the flight logs. Our Democrats are big power brokers like Bill Gates. And we know some people in the Trump administration have been heavily implicated. I'm not gonna name names. And so you nailed it. When you brought up

13:10 Netanyahu, so tell me if you've got time here. I have to we have all the time in the world I just want to add when Bondi said we have 10,000 hours of video She said we have 10,000 hours of video. I had dinner last week with the vice president He told me that that was commercial pornography They do not have videos of any powerful person in a compromising position That's the party line that they're going with if that's the case. Why would Pam Bondi call it evidence? Why would she say it's evidence? She's not an idiot. She's the Attorney General. Why would she say she has files on her desk if none of these implicated anybody? It just feels like they're covering something for sure 100%

14:06 And I feel like they're, they're telling a story and the story doesn't make any sense. Perfectly said. So there's so much data I have, it would take a hundred hours, but we'll go as long as you need. Here's what I'm trying to say. There are two main tracks here. Okay. Incompetence by Bondi and Patel. And, uh, Bongino or a mix of that or pure cover up. But undoubtedly there's a cover up. So here's what we know from the timeline. And I'm not trying to gonzo journalism, write myself into the story. I just do this seven days a week. So I broke most of the different developments that happened in the last six months. So here's what we know and you give me your conclusion. Trump surrogates say they're going to release it. They get in. In March, they're given this old Epstein information of that press conference with the super binders.

15:04 And a day and a half before that happens, I have O'Boyle who is the main, one of the top FBI whistleblowers exposed so much. And he says, my New York sources say they've got massive Epstein videos and files that the Democrats are suppressing and not giving to Trump. And Bondi's been set up, we're meeting with her tonight, my sources are. And she's going to expose the fact that she's been set up. The next day she comes out and on the cover sheet of the binder says, this is phase one, I learned there's a lot more in New York with Comey's daughter and Comey running it, which we know control the file the whole time. If they don't give it to us in 24 hours, we're going to go grab it. 24 hours goes by, they go grab it, the head of the FBI in New York resigns, the guy that said dig in, don't do it.

15:51 And then they're given these files, but that's the setup. Obviously, if the Democrats before Trump and after Trump and now control the file, and James Comey and Marine Comey controlled it, are they gonna leave stuff in that's incriminating? No, it's logical to say, they're gonna probably drop a dime on themselves, not that my whistleblower was bad. They're gonna drop a dime, we've really got the real file. So Trump's like, yeah, go get it, grab it, get them. They get the file, And then I talked to FBI sources, multiple ones, called Seraf and others, showed me the text messages. This is in late March, days after. That indeed, the way the FBI works, the top of the FBI does the investigations. They get the truckloads out of New York. They send it all over the country to field offices and say, do what you want. Then the FBI, we confirm this, looks at it. It's got all this stuff about Trump in it, whether it's true or not.

16:44 Bondi and then come back and say to Trump, it's got all this about you. Then you see the deer in the headlights interview two months ago with Bongino and Cash Patel on Fox. They're like, they're hostages. They're like, no, you can trust us. He killed himself and Epstein acts alone and didn't do anything and case closed. And I said this before Trump said it a week and a half ago. I said, Trump has learned or this is a big possibility they've spiked it with poison pills. They're not just going to take out bad stuff about them. They're going to add all the innuendo, all the Jane does, all the stuff recycled in. Then Trump comes out for social last Saturday, eight, nine days ago, Saturday before last, and says, hey, they control the file. Not saying MC doesn't exist or wasn't bad. That's how the media spun it. He says,

17:32 They put a bunch of bull in there, which I was even able to predict. So that's one track of what it is and why he acted so scared and hysterical. The other track is, he was a big playboy. He was hanging out with Epstein. He was running beauty pageants. Maybe he did some stuff he wasn't supposed to. And now they're bringing it out. So now the jury's out on Trump. Now he's gotta be suspect. But The same people that run Crossfire Hurricane, the fake Russiagate, Obama, Clapper, Comey, Brennan, that did all this, who are known fake frauds, who are known to be all over the Epstein file, who are known controlling it on the US side. Anything they tell me suspects, so I don't believe it right away, then you bring up Netanyahu and that's the key. So anytime Assad is going to operate like this on domestic soil, they're going to need a CIA agreement and pass.

18:29 This goes on for decades. And then you've got Maxwell's dad that was MI6, Mossad, on record. And KGB, triple agent, highest level. The real agents are triple level or quadruple level. So you have Trump, yeah, grab it, do it. He gets it. My God, I've been set up. Then he's mad at Netanyahu and from behind the scenes sources were not attacking Iran months ago. Netanyahu shows up, suddenly Trump 180s, searching whatever Netanyahu wants. And we know who has the full file of all the hidden cameras and all the stuff at Little Island in Washington.

19:08 there in the Caribbean at his facility in Zorro Ranch, New Mexico, in New York. And we had Ehud Barak there photographed dozens of times in 30 something meetings there in New York. As all of a sudden you get a 180 as soon as Netanyahu shows up, now Trump learns what's in the FBI file. Right after that, then Netanyahu comes and tells him, and I don't believe from my sources, and this is highly lefty eye, that it is Trump. But it's people in his administration, including a top financial advisor, that's heavily involved. Trump wants to get his agenda through of jobs, 15 trillion investment coming in, 3 trillion already here. He wants to stop World War III. I'm not defending this, I'm saying the thinking I've been told. And so he goes, my God, this is a giant new Russiagate set up. He comes out and says to his supporters- Would I be crazy when you say a top financial advisor? Are we talking about Epstein's neighbor? We are.

20:13 Okay, interesting and that makes sense. Um, so here's how informed you are and I'm not trying to be a main person Yeah, cuz he may even be innocent, but we're talking about Ludnick. That's right. Howard Ludnick. Don't sue me! Kidding. Um, well, it's just beyond suing. This is like, yeah Yeah, you're right now Let's just say you brought it out. You're smart to figure it out. Nobody else was I'm sure it's true. Yeah, they're blackmailing him with Ludnick I've confirmed that from the FBI And it's not that I did anything wrong, but yeah.

21:05 Person that Vicki Ward quoted saying Alex Acosta said I was told to stand down Epstein belonged to intelligence that is why he was not prosecuted That was the federal federal federal prosecutor right to the fullest extent of the law Why do we not and by we I mean the the Trump administration the American people demand that that Maxwell testifies in front of Congress and that Alexander Acosta testifies in front of Congress about whatever this operation was. I think me and you have a good idea about what it was. But it's a vile operation. It destroyed the lives of children. No civilized society can exist ignoring things like this. And it also opens up many questions about a financial system that we barely understand that involves

22:01 oligarchs, criminals, human traffickers, drug smugglers, and our own political class, by the way. This is why Nancy Pelosi has been so quiet about this, let's be very honest, because she has no problem with, you know, obviously making lots and lots of money and lots of our politicians, I mean, Barack Obama, you know, these $30 million homes in Martha's Vineyard or whatever they are. Why don't we demand that they testify, Alex? And Tim, I don't do this with regular people interviewing me. I'm not kissing your ass. I was about to go, before you said Ghislaine Maxwell testifying, I was about to go to this. So that's where I was going next. Here's the issue with that. She's in prison for human trafficking. And you've got these lawyers connected to Epstein saying months ago, Alan Dershowitz, Trump better pardon her

23:03 And even before Elon came out and said, hey, Trump's in the list, you're never gonna see it, which then has a lot more credibility now because of this. It doesn't mean Trump did anything wrong, but he's implicated, he's embarrassed by it. The issue with Giselaine Maxwell is she's in prison for decades. So you can't trust somebody to testify who has already non implicated other people, but now that he's convicted in prison will maybe she'll say that I was involved. I'm being sarcastic, but my point is that pressure mounts for Ghislaine Maxwell to be released just five more Congress.

23:43 I am of the thought that full disclosure is the way to go. From all my research and sources, Trump wasn't actually involved in any of this. And they're gonna be able to continue to blackmail that they don't. So I think justice be done by the heavens fall. But the thinking is, if they implicate All these big tech titans like Bill Gates that was heavily involved in all this and his wife left him over it and said he should have to answer those questions about saying what he did. If all these Silicon Valley people come out and things, Trump's being told this will crash the stock market, this will bring down America, this is a setup. And I'm not defending that decision, but I can logically from a sick position get it. I agree with you.

24:24 I think the world will think we're back in business if we actually exercise all this, these demons. This stuff's going all over the place as well. The EU's been caught in giant pedophile rings of government. Yes, this is driving people insane and I think it's justifiably so that people at the highest levels can get away with stuff like this and that it can be covered up forever. And I think a lot of people... It's the two-tiered justice system. It's emblematic of everything. Yeah, it's emblematic of everything. What I told Vance, I said, if you don't disclose everything, you're done. I mean, nobody will support you guys. You are fully and completely part of this cover-up if everything doesn't come out. I think it paralyzes their presidency completely. And what did Vance say? He agrees with me. He agrees with me. You know, like, it really is... Even Mike Johnson came out a week ago and said release it.

25:14 I mean, he agrees with me that the calls are coming from inside the house. We know that Benjamin Netanyahu shows up. We then immediately see an about face, which is completely crazy, by the President of the United States. And again, I'm not a paranoid Israel hater. But their activity over the last six months is completely insane. They're bombing churches, they're starving people, they're shooting people that are... They bombed Syria today. But here's the deal. I've studied who the main threat is to the US. Communist China, big financial interest.

25:51 I'm the guy that everybody said was defending Israel. No, I was just saying they're not the most important block. They're varied. But absolutely, because we've knocked out the Democrats to a great extent, because they've cut off the USAID money and the deep state money, Israel with Netanyahu sees a power vacuum and is definitely trying a hostile takeover of the administration. So that's 100% going on. Are you worried about these connections with Palantir, with using technology to merge, Palantir technology to merge all of the different departments so that if you have information on you with the IRS, that's now merging with your arrest record and if you've attended a protest and whatever the case may be. We see in the UK people are getting sent to jail for tweets.

26:44 We see all over the world and we know of course the Chinese social credit score system. This feels a lot like a precursor to that. Steve Bannon has said that he thinks that these tech people are the biggest threat to the stability of the United States going forward. Because they have their own agendas that they're cloaking in this MAGA movement. Do you share that view? And do you think that Trump has allowed these people to get a little too close and exercise a little too much power in the White House? Yes, I think Palantir is a threat. And that I've been criticized by people that just want to try to make scores by being nuanced about it. Let's explain what's happening.

31:16 It's that why does everybody know about that? Cuz the corporate media started it. So Palantir has come to Trump and is a big backer of Vance. I'm not saying he's bad either. And they have said to Trump, we know how to come in and tell you what's really going on. Let us have the ring of Mordor and we will fix all your problems. And my point is they are a small little tech Who wants to come in and has the technology to what's already been done. Right. So the idea that this is already integrated that it is it is it is Amazon, Google and these other

31:59 groups, Amazon, Alphabet, you know, those company, whatever it is, Meta. Yeah, well, yeah, I mean, I mean, yeah, but Alphabet's above Google, exactly. Right. So, so it's Google, it's Google, it's, it's, it's, it's Amazon, it's all, yeah, so, so they're the ones that are currently doing it. It's not like it's coming. So I just told people, In their lexicon, it's like you have flashcards for a kid. Here's a tiger, here's a bear, here's a bunny rabbit. And now they go, here's Palantir. Ooh, that's the big takeover. No, that's a group that thought with their angles with Trump, they could come in and be put in charge of the thing that's already there. So I'm telling people, no, it's not that it's coming, it's already there. Palantir is just as dangerous as Google or as its parent company, Alphabet, or as Microsoft.

32:49 Or as Amazon, it's Microsoft, Google, Amazon. And I'm saying, if you look at the statistics, they're 90% of it. The grid's already there. Palantir is a usurper, an upstart, a pretender to the throne trying to come in to give Trump control because the US government's been directing the Googles and the Microsofts and the Amazons to already create a fused system that we already have. Does that make sense? It absolutely makes sense. The reason Palantir is always a red flag for me is when Peter Thiel has asked things like, should the human race exist? And he kind of stutters and stammers and doesn't really seem to have a... That one seems easy.

33:33 And he doesn't really have an answer for that. He's also suggested things like maybe people went to Epstein's Island because they wanted Epstein's advice on their divorce and stuff. It just seems like it. He also says, you know, we need to do what I'm doing to stop the Antichrist. Right, so it just feels to me that yes, they are part of a very large group of companies I don't trust. But it is worth noting that this company is, you know, they want to start helping to surveil

34:10 Americans more than they already are I mean that sort of or or or help you know Concentrate the information or help merge be clear. Oh, yeah, the key point you think your point Google six seven years ago wouldn't even give the Pentagon access to AI they give China that so that's the key just yet Palantir is offering to Trump a But look at Denver, already has US funded license plate scanners. But a month ago when they were gonna use them to arrest illegals, they turned it off. So Palantir is offering to use the grid that's already in place for Trump's aims. So what I'm trying to say is it's not a defensive Palantir, it's that we're saying we're in the year 2025, we're in the year 2050. I'm

34:56 I'm saying it's already there. The Palantir thing is a fight about Trump coming and saying, okay, I'll hire you to explain how this works and give me access. I'm saying it's already all there. No, and I understand that. And I think that I, listen, I don't trust Elon Musk. I don't trust any of that. I don't trust Sam Altman. I don't trust Mark Zuckerberg. It's not because I believe they're inherently evil people or although they say some things that are inherently evil I believe their agendas are radically different than if you took an American off the street and said what are the things you value? Very few of them are gonna go we want to terraform Mars and merge with AI and destroy the human race and all of this stuff. So I do think that

35:36 The tech community, it's important to have a thriving tech community, but it's important to not turn our country into a digital police state or a Chinese style surveillance state. And I think a lot of those people would probably want to create something like that in our society. That does seem like they would prefer that. Absolutely, I want your viewers and listeners to understand something. Let's just say Palantir is the most evil thing on earth ever seen. It is the devil. Why do we all know about Palantir? And not the other ones. But we don't know. Yes, you're right. We don't know about Microsoft, Google, and Amazon that are 90 plus percent of the grid that's already there. Right. So we're all learning about surveillance and AI and social credit score and biometrics

36:25 and social, we're already doing it. They're just bidding to get into the trough as a junior. And so I oppose what Palantir's doing. I oppose everyone else. I'm just saying it's become a distraction into only them. Understood. Disclosure. Your sources, people that you know, how damaging is this if this all comes out? Do we think that this is a watershed moment for the United States and Israel? Does this come out that this is what many people feel it is, which is a Mossad CIA blackmail?

37:12 Or is this basically not, we're never going to definitively know that? Or will we, we have a lot of conjecture, we have a lot, gun to my head, that's what I believe it was. There's enough evidence in my book to say that's what it was. But is the disclosure not only will it be embarrassing to people but is it going to suggest that one of our allies has been using these types of methods to gain leverage and control over our politicians and Is that one of the big reasons that they do not want it out? Well, that's all true. I mean look at what?

37:50 Monika Lewinsky was a Mossad operative. Really? Yeah, yeah, it's come out. They were tapping the White House. So, and I don't want to hit us on some big corruption deal because a bunch of Israeli operatives are involved in all the corruption with our people as well. Right. I don't want to hit you on some limited little sexual thing. And so, yeah, I mean, absolutely Epstein was mainly a Mossad operative, Giselaine Maxwell, her dad, all Mossad on record. The media just keeps this debate going, is it Mossad? Is it Mossad? Well, he wasn't officially Mossad. Any real operative at the highest level is an operative. People think it was an operative at his lower level, no, a lot of times they're the boss. But he himself was just a manager, Giselaine was the case manager. This has all basically come out and this is the leverage

38:38 that Israel is using over Trump right now to do all this. And my information is it's not Trump himself, but he's just all this other stuff to try to embarrass him, beauty pageants, flying twice on his plane from New York to Palm Beach. And again, Trump was all release it, release it till he got that meeting with Netanyahu that you nailed. But what's more important is this has captured the public's understanding and imagination. And so it's all about integrity. It's all about getting rid of the deep state and Trump joining with it and defending it. I had my show today, Mark Mitchell. Who is the hands down, they have the best record dealing elections, not just here but around the world from Rasmussen polling. And he said, I'm not a Republican Democrat, but I care about the voters and freedom in the future. And he said, I mean, again, the exact number like 14 points lost with independence. It's a collapse. It's a collapse. It's a collapse, five, six points lost his most hardcore base.

39:36 I mean, this is a disaster. Is Steve Bannon without seeing polls, we're gonna have to go, said we'll lose 40 seats. It's an also it's overshadowing another interesting and important story that's that Comey, you know, Brennan, Clapper, all these guys essentially participated in what was kind of an attempted coup with, you know, manufacturing this evidence that Trump was installed by Russia. Yeah, crossfire hurricane. And that's the key. That was my whole show today was Crossfire Hurricane is proven, Crossfire Hurricane is confirmed that not just Obama giving orders to Clapper, Brennan, Comey. Before 2016, they knew Trump was running. They put him under surveillance, the documents are out.

40:21 They created the Steele dossier. They didn't just let the intelligence out and then not report it was fake. They created it. Stolzi Gabbard said last night on Fox, we already have the documents. That's true. I reported them years ago. Do you think Obama is a CIA operative from birth? His mother worked for USAID. His mother was born in Hawaii. I mean because, oh, Obama weirdly comes up all the time as this guy. And I always think these politicians are middlemen and I imagine that Barack Obama would be like a similar politician like a Clinton type or like they know what's going on, but Bill Clinton Hillary Clinton Come out of the CIA and the Dixie Mafia and the Chicago Mafia There's whole films made by Joel Gilbert, which I researched. It's well known Obama's grandfather was the head of the CIA in Hawaii and

41:11 His mother was a CIA sex operative. His real father was not in Kenya, but was out of the Communist Party, USA. Head of their major newspapers, Frank Marshall Davis. Where do you think he was born? If you had to take a guess. He was born in Hawaii. Oh, he was? Yeah, it was Obama in four different videos when he was a senator saying, I was born in Kenya. I'm back at my home country is a fake cover story. And then that guy, that sub-Saharan Africa that looked nothing like him, you look at Frank Marshall Davis, it's him. And he wrote in Dreams of My Fathers, I spent summers with Frank Marshall Davis in Hawaii. He was friends with my grandfather. He felt like my real father. And it's Frank Marshall Davis. Then his mother, Betty Davis, not Betty Davis, what's that woman with the dark hair?

42:02 the famous bombshell 50s. No, it's the one that did soft porn. It'll pop my head in a minute. The point is they did that style and In the famous porn that Frank Marshall Davis released in the same house, that's in photos of Obama with the same couch, with the same pictures, with his mom and Frank Marshall Davis visiting. Frank Marshall Davis, it's her with women on the very same Betty page. It's the very same couch. And it's in famous private porn collections that his mother was, you know, in all of this. Well, she was a famous CIA sex operative. So you're saying that Obama's from an intelligence family? Well, you said CIA baby. Yeah, no, but that's what I feel as well. I mean, I... And in fact, Marshall Davis, the main publisher of communist newspapers all over the US,

43:00 is a famous pornographer. Obama says in Dreams of My Father's, he was like my father. I stayed with him in the summers. He was friends with my grandfather and his dad's the famous CIA banker. Well, I know people in Chicago that have said that Obama essentially had led kind of a secret double life his entire life and they were shocked when he was was polling so well in the election, obviously he was a brilliant politician, but that the media didn't go near any of his secret life the way they didn't go... There's a lot of people that obviously the media is told to stand down, but I know people in Chicago, these large financial institutions that knew him, that were shocked that more details about his private life weren't emerging.

43:44 Well, yeah, and and you know, he says every young boy, you know needs a gay man to help lead him now I'm not against gay people or anything, but it's yeah, I mean, it's well known how he's being controlled And so you very astutely said a baby of the CIA. He is literally a Manchurian candidate people with secrets are Seemingly the people that always lead us it seems to be whether you're if you're in the closet or if you have a problem with your drugs or money or something like that, leverage is always being used on different people so to control them. Because you're compromised. A thousand percent. So Trump, in my estimation, has to just let everything out, no matter how embarrassing it is. Yeah, I mean, he does. And I mean, look,

44:37 The Democrats are trying to put me in prison. They're openly horrible people. Trump represents a lot of good constituents. I don't want Trump to fail. I got accused by a lot of influencers and people last few weeks, cuz I'm on every channel and does nothing for me to be on CNN, ABC News, I care less. They have tiny audiences. I don't like to have to come tell the truth on air and have them spin it and use it against Trump and MAGA, cuz MAGA is great overall and is definitely a force for good. And Robert F. Kennedy Jr., and Tulsi Gabbard, and Tom Homan, and I mean, they're doing amazing things. And so I don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. I don't do this because I can attack Trump, which I never do, and then get publicity out of it. I did it because I had to keep my integrity. And I don't know if Trump can course correct,

45:22 I had the head of Rasmussen polling on today. Some of us bounce back, but you look at bombing Iran, you look at Israel, you look at Kennedy got it where they were to take fluoride out of the water. The DOJ blocked the lawsuit that banned it to keep fluoride in the water. Kennedy blocked basically Gliberts State, the Trump administration is keeping it. It's almost like the Trump admin brought in Kennedy so the chemical companies and Big Pharma and then Big Pharma will just come make bigger donations. And I don't know if Kennedy's supposed to care about that. I'm going to say something very interesting. I think obviously poison food in America needs to be dealt with, but Kennedy was talking a lot about these vaccines were mandated and had a lot of adverse effects. Pam Bondi is now not following up the Pfizer thing, you know, maybe know more about than I do, but I saw that briefly. Her and the White House chief of staff

46:20 Run now only ten years ago didn't exist the biggest consulting firm and their main clients Pfizer So Pam Bondi and Suzy Wiles, who's the White House chief of staff? Run a consulting firm and their biggest client is Pfizer. Well, that's not great and even today The lawyers came out all the people involved You know even in Congress and said that Kennedy's not even being consulted now. So people get pissed at Kennedy's like, yeah, we're banning that MRA shot and then.

46:58 The White House somehow overrides it and I'm not, yeah, it's, it's, it's. I think Kennedy from, from people that I know, I think Kennedy feels like he's frustrated. I also think, yes, get the poison food out. But also Kennedy was coming in there saying, listen, we had these mandatory vaccines. A lot of them had adverse health effects and now that's not being talked about. Everything's about food diet. Now, by the way, get the food diet out. Sure. But let's not indemnify companies like Pfizer and all these people going forward. I mean, big big pharma is it's the biggest. I mean, I mean, I mean, the big HHS double Robert Malone and veteran RNA that violently exposed it all. He came out today and said, no, I've seen the documents, the FDA and all of it authorized these new mRNAs. They literally didn't even consult Kennedy. And so I'm not giving Kennedy a pass. I mean, this is going on. So

47:57 It's a big giant operation. Suzy Wiles gave him the organizational skills that Trump needed to win. So it's the devil you need, the devil you don't need. But who was she the chief of staff for his last election? Where does she live part of the year? She works for Benjamin Netanyahu. Suzy? She works for Netanyahu. She was the chief of staff and his campaign manager. Interesting. I did not know that. That keeps coming up. I mean, listen, I'm not anti-Israel. No, no, no, and listen, we don't even have to keep saying that. We're not anti-Israel. I just, I have responsibility. You do. Like a jack-in-the-box, a Netanyahu, jack-in-the-box Netanyahu. Remember Netanyahu back during the COVID thing said,

48:48 I want Israel to be the headquarters of human testing. We don't know what this is going to do. We offer the Israeli people to be guinea pigs to be tested on. Well, that violates the Nuremberg Coast. I'm not anti-Israel. I'm saying, you pull it up, Netanyahu says Israel's a guinea pig. And I think Netanyahu's a villain. I have great friends in Israel and in America. that are Jewish people, that are religious, some aren't, and a lot of them think what's going on in Gaza is atrocious, and that Netanyahu's a criminal and should stand trial. But it is interesting to see that this administration is starting to spin out of control. It feels like that. Yeah, that's a good way to see it. The first five months or so, it was like,

49:39 almost perfectly on track for what, and then it just started going sideways. And now it's moving very quickly the wrong direction. And I have no interest in them failing. My God, the Democrats are literally trying to put me in prison and suing me and all this other, I mean, it's like my lifeboat I'm in is Trump. And then he's poking holes in the bottom of the boat. And then I don't wanna be enemies with Suze Wiles. I don't wanna be enemies. And I can tell you a lot more. I mean, I've had the White House call up and be like, last week, what do you want? I'm like, oh, you think I'm doing all this just to get something? I've never asked for anything. I want you to do what you were elected to do. So it went from, you're bad, we're going to have our influencers attack you two weeks ago, to what do you want? Yeah, well, they wanted to go away. They want this to go away. And you, I've been listening to you since I'm 12 years old on the GCN network. I remember listening to you

50:33 before 9-11, by the way, and then direct... No, no, look, GCN network, we're talking like f***ing 1999. We're talking 8-bit internet. I mean, unbelievable. And that's, I believe that was a network you were on, was GCN. Yes, yes. So that's how long I've been listening to you, and that's why I bring you in when stuff like this happens, because I often get confused, because we all basically say to ourselves, What the hell's going on? It's almost like the gaslighting is so crazy because it's like you start they start going like who said Epstein was a black operation They're like who said any of this and you go Why would you suggest he's connected to the Mossad or anything and you go wait a minute hold on we? This has all been kind of decided. There's mountains of evidence so to attack supporters or you know people that are just raising

51:29 questions, of course you're gonna have to go out and say, hey guys, we know what you're doing. For whatever reason you want this to go away, it's not gonna go away until you disclose the information you have. And that's the problem, the CIA was involved, MI6 was involved, Mossad was the main group for more evidence. And now that they've implicated people in Trump's circle, he's doubled down, he's totally pigheaded, it's a strength and a weakness. And so the polls show it from Rasmus and all the other polls show it. This is a death spiral, and it's so sad.

52:09 And you got the Democrats that are openly with 350,000 kids smuggled across a bunch of them in sex slavery, slave labor. You have Tom Homan, they've already saved 35,000 kids, prosecuted over 1,000 human traffickers. All this good's happening, and I don't wanna see this happen. But the way this works, and I'm surmising this, I don't know if this is true, but if Trump makes a deal with the deep state to leave him alone, the Epstein thing is implicates intelligence agencies. They go, okay, you got to have Kash Patel and Dan Mangino and all you go out and say there's nothing there. And this is what Kyle Serafin really smart FBI whistleblower said months ago on my show. They're being given bad advice to go out and do stuff that discredits them by the very same people acting like they're on their side. So it looks like they made a deal to deep six this for a reason. And then the very same media and Democrats then turn on them and now hanging around their neck and nose. The Democrats say they want Epstein declassified.

53:02 They only want stuff with Trump in it. I say release it all, release it all. Release it all is the only way and maybe depose Alex Acosta and let's find out who told him that. And that's again US Attorney, the prosecutor 15 years ago that said he was told go easy intelligence. Yes, I mean let's find out and you know at the end of the day I think that You know, I'm not naive, you're not naive. We know that there's serious players behind the scenes that are exerting pressure on all kinds of people and I know that you can't wave a magic wand and make the deep state go away and you can't, you know, throw them all in jail overnight. But if there's no accountability for this type of criminal activity that everybody knows about,

53:51 The lack of credibility is going to eat away at not only this administration, but at the government and the justice system in this country. No, you're right. You're absolutely... You've hit the key here. And by the way, I can go as long as you want. We're gonna wrap up in a few minutes. My bladder's about to bust. Can I just run pee and I'll come right back? Go run pee and come back. I'll just pee on air right now. You can run and pee and I'll vamp while you're there. I'm good at it. I taught my whole show. I'm like you. I actually peed on Trump in Moscow. I learned how to do this with you. I just talk. I don't even have guests. No, no, no. But what I was going to say is, just like the made up stuff Trump being peed on, that was all fake. So on the other side, I have such no belief in the establishment media because they've lied so much back in one minute. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go, go. I'll go as long as you want. I got more stuff to add. Go pee. I just can't think. I understand.

54:40 Speaker 3 11 Alex Jones is taking a pee break. Ladies and gentlemen. All right. Thank you. Come. Thank you. Welcome back. Alex Jones. I was just an advertiser who dropped me because I took out a lot of greens and my got three feet longer. No, they dropped me. I drew, they dropped me because I said athletic greens on the show with you years ago. So they're terrible. I got an earpiece in when I ran the back to the incredible thing you just said. Yes, this is a benchmark deciding issue because they killed Epstein, all the coverups, people learned about it. And then now Trump made a big issue, I'm sitting in office here. So him saying, don't look at it, don't talk about it, he's not that stupid.

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59:49 Because you know normally a incumbent president that wins the first election they lose the House and Senate The numbers according to pollsters he was gonna we were trending to win. He was getting you know record numbers with everybody Fundraising came from very big donors people like Miriam Adelson and stuff like that that have a lot of political connections in Israel obviously and I think there's probably pressure on from that avenue as well of people that spent a lot of money to help Trump get elected that are probably telling him, let's make this go away. Let's not have this be an embarrassment or worse. Video cut out of you there. Sorry, yeah. Did you hear me? Yeah. You are back. Okay. Yeah, I said. I got most of that. What is that? Is that a devil on your, is that Hillary Clinton on your? No, this is a lobster. It's the summer.

1:00:42 See that's like a... It's the summer, it's lobsters. That's like those ink... Yeah. It's like those ink blots. See what does that say about me? I don't see a lobster, I see a devil. I like, it's the summer so when the lobster's over and it goes to the fall we put a pumpkin. I like it. Yeah, we try to make it nice while we talk about international sex trafficking cults and this, that and the other thing. By the way, Hollywood stands to probably get very embarrassed if this comes out too. Because this is not just political, there's probably a lot of big people in Hollywood, let's be honest. Let's talk about who we know is heavily involved. You had a clear blackmailing operation against high tech people, science people, vaccines, genetic engineers, Harvard.

1:01:26 massive Hollywood, the Clinton, Steve Jobs wives, the Atlantic Monthly owner, Atlantic Magazine, all those people. And that's my big frustration is that we know they're all in there. We know it's all going on. And by Trump doing this, he's now joining with them. And he did it in such a terrible way as saying you're not part of our organization if you question this, which then Backs up the left's claim that MAGA is a cult. Well, I'm not Nicole So, how are you processing this because I'm not a lesser to evil sky, but overall Trump ministration is a lot better I think the Democrats but at the same time as an integrity issue because I become an accomplice by extension of green Ellen Okay, if I join in on the cover-up agreed I process it the same way you process it I think securing the border having an account, you know getting having the American working-class regain ground

1:02:18 and trying to Provide a standard of living for people and not opening the borders. What would they've done that in the UK? It's caused tremendous strife They're now putting people in jail for tweeting about social and cultural issues in that country gotten 15 trillion committed 5 trillions already flooded in I mean he got in this new economic everybody don't line here the Federal Reserve Yeah, which is the establishment won't give him interest cuts. I mean yeah, I mean he is still the maverick of Here's what I know, and I'll give you the inside baseball, and I hate to do this. Do it. I started hearing this about a year ago from people really close to Trump.

1:02:57 He was 78 then, he's 79 now. And then all the trials, all the pressure, all the demonization, he doesn't crack up, but at a certain point becomes a really grumpy old man. And now, I knew this months ago and I kind of mentioned it, but I didn't want to attack him and give them fodder. But it is an issues that incriminate him. It's not Epstein stuff. It's not something that can be a problem. They'll bring in some side issue and he'll scream at them. And say, I only want to hear about stopping World War III, bringing jobs back, securing the border. and defeating election fraud. And he gets really mad now, he didn't used to do that. And other people that talk to him a week and a half ago saying, sir, you gotta stop defending this and gotta stop the Epstein cover up. And these people he's done for 30 years, 50 years, he'll just say, you then and hang up on him or kick him out of the Oval Office. So it's not just that he blew up about this, and it's good to have a guy that doesn't give a crap. At a certain point.

1:03:53 For fighting corruption, but when he doesn't give a crap about his constituents We're kind of experiencing you know what the establishment's experiencing so I love him doing that to them But with us the optics are really bad Who is he listening to people say Stephen Miller and Susie Wiles have the most outsized influence in the administration Do you think that's true? Yeah, I'm not defending Steven Miller. From my sources, he basically has the beat on the border and domestic stuff. It's Susie Wiles. And I hate to demonize her, I'm not trying to come after her. I was warned up front she was bad news. And anybody that wants anything has to go through her. I just know her consultancy firm has gone from small to number one. And- And Bondi and her are good buddies, very tight. Is that the case?

1:04:49 Absolutely, well, they were at the same consultancy. Right. Is it weird that they have a huge consultant firm, but they're also both in the White House? It's a major conflict of interest. Yeah, seems so. So it's not quite Hunter Biden level stuff or 10% for the big guy. And again, I'm not trying to say they're the only problem. It's just that, look, a lot of it is, it's complex, it's huge, a lot's going on. And Trump is trying to be pragmatic, but if he thought he could make deals with the deep state, and like, sir, the CIA and Mossad are implicated, let's shut this down. They walk into the trap and now, by the way, that stuff we raided from the Democrats, it's all about you. And it doesn't mean it's real, I already predicted it's recycled.

1:05:35 It's recycled BS about Trump, and I think that's why we're seeing the fit. Do you think there's any part of him that says they'll kill me because they tried to, you know, they maybe tried to in Pennsylvania, you know, where very few people are satisfied with the explanation of who that, you know, would-be assassin was, Thomas Matthew Crooks or You know, he had no online footprint. We didn't know that much about him. The media's only recently started to kind of put out a narrative about him, but that was clearly a big brush with death. Do you think that there's any fear in that sense that Trump goes, you know, that the people are playing for keeps?

1:06:20 I mean, I think that's at the end of the day. I mean, I think overall Trump wants success for America. And he's pragmatically trying to pick the best direction. But there's a new video out that's viral everywhere about look on July 13th. On July 13th, you see the film crew being waved up after he shot, it shows as a production. Well, anybody that's been in a presidential speech of Trump or Obama or any of them which I've been to, or Bush, W, or any of them, I've been to all those. You have the Secret Service directing press up, directing press back. They tell you when you can be there, when you can't. He gets shot, he falls down, they wave him back.

1:07:02 He pops back up, they let the press in. These are TV productions. So people seeing that production Then thinking oh, it's fake. No the whole thing is a production, but I know ballistics. I know rifles They didn't have real people shooting in him And then they just perfectly grazed his ear and you can't fake real like that You can't fake the acoustics of another shooter or a guy getting killed or other people getting shot in the background I mean the greatest Directors all fused together, Steven Spielberg, Francis Ford Coppola. Anybody, right, Scorsese. Nobody can do that. Nobody can carry that out. That was real. His ear got grazed. The Democrats hold up the cartridges and the bullet and go, something this big hit you. No, it's this big. And when it grazes you, that's exactly what it does.

1:08:00 And because long story short, I got shot with a .22 caliber pellet when I was 11. And it hit my ear and butt a lot, but the hole was closing like a day. Just went right through the side, had the same thing happen. Kid named Mike Hamby shot me, it was an accident. But the point was, is that my grandmother's ranch, the point is no, no, that was real. And all the lawfare and all the indictments and the mug shot and the persecution I've gone through was real. And because of that failing, And because of what happened, they're now trying to spin that and make it go away. But people then see, they push the media back. Well, if you go to any debate or presidential deal, they tell the media come forward, they tell them come back. And then once Trump pops back up, they're like, okay, he's okay, you can come back forward. Because they're producers, they're filmmakers that run this, they're trying to get iconic shots for videos or put out for Trump. And so they all seem shot, they get scared and run back.

1:08:58 Then he pops back up, it's normal, okay, they creep back up, bring the cameras back up. You got a bunch of Pulitzer Prize winning photographers there, but they've got to do what the Secret Service says. So people go, that's a production. Well, when Trump goes to the NFL game or the World Cup game, that's a production. Doesn't mean the game didn't play, doesn't mean it wasn't real. So yeah, it is a production, but it's a production that is of a real event that's happening. Before you go, what do you think Netanyahu wants? I mean, they bombed Syria today. The Gaza thing's insane. They seem to be hinting that they're not done with Iran. I've heard from people and there's articles out, I mean, it's just not a secret that

1:09:40 They don't I don't think they feel like enough damage was done. They want to do more What do you think? ultimately in Trump's four years They would like to see Netanyahu would like to see like What would be? Their goal here would it be to? Recon you know to to Reconfigure Gaza in in the image of what they would want I imagine that's on the table is it another attack on Iran? What do you think it is well this I'm an expert on how much time do I have any as much as you want? All right Benjamin Netanyahu has been in power off and on for 25 years

1:10:26 And previously represented the most right wing aggressive Israelis. And when you shot Romaine got in their way, it's on record, the group associated with him killed him. And now they've gotten Israel so radical, we can call it right wing is what the media calls it. Just let's just say Israeli supremacist. So you, I'm trying to compare it to Hitler, but the closest thing you're gonna get is like racial supremacy. You know, we're taking over. It's ironic for sure. Yeah, we're the master, right? Well, they're gonna drive a group out of their homes into the desert. That's what Pharaoh did to the Jews 3,000 years ago. I mean, it's like the pogroms, you know, that was wrong to the Jews, it's wrong here. I'm not saying the Muslims are little angel cakes are perfect either, believe me. They're not little angel cakes, but I get it. Yeah, the optics are not good. Right.

1:11:15 So a lot of the Israelis were like, even Michael Savage is an American citizen, great guy, pro-Israel, but he came on my show two weeks ago and said Netanyahu needs to go. According to all his sources, they've taken Israel from being one of the most popular countries in the world to the most, did you know Israel in international polls is the most unpopular country in the world? Yeah, they've had a rough couple of years in terms of their- So if you ask what's going on with Netanyahu, Netanyahu Until three years ago on record you pull particles was the main funder of Hamas, right? Israel set up Hamas and funded their creation to discredit the PLO So we got one group You don't like put a new more radical group in that challenges them and then people forget about it later and you blow them up next month like I said eight months ago when when NATO

1:12:08 Turkey and Israel on record overthrew Assad after 18 years of trying or 17 years. Then I said, I bet in six months they're trying to overthrow the new Al Qaeda leader. Well, Israel's now bombing, trying to take him out. Which is a one dimensional thing, sounds good. I don't like the leader of Al Qaeda and ethically cleansing non radical Muslims and Christians and Druze and others. But Israel literally ran field hospitals for Al Qaeda and bombed for them and put them in as a destabilizing force. Just like Netanyahu's predecessors, Likudniks, when they were in power, created Hamas. So then you have October 7th and this stand down, this little armed camp, incredible Israeli intelligence, one of the best militaries on earth, that's not hype. Seven and a half hours, nobody responds.

1:12:56 to Hamas breaking across the fence and grabbing all these Jews. I mean, my God, you fart in Israel, they'll shoot a missile up your ass. So, and Netanyahu admitted there was a stand down, the army blamed him, he blamed them. That was a couple years ago. He said when the war is over, we'll investigate. Well, for Netanyahu in power 25 years, serious heart problems, indicted, he stays in power by having crises. And so it really comes down to him and his party, and they can't have elections for five months under emergency declaration. They can't even have elections because of this emergency. So he stands to gain, the weapons makers stand to gain with billions a week in weapons being spent.

1:13:44 Iran's no angel, Keg, I'm not gonna do it to them, but if you go back to Wesley Clark, 20-something years ago, he goes to the Pentagon, which is declassified now, and they go, the next five years we're gonna take out seven countries, Iran's the last. Well, they got Syria eight months ago, the last one is Iran. And it's not just about getting that Gaza Strip. Under international law, Israel gets 12 miles out And they've got one of the biggest gas fields undrilled because the conflict, I mean, it's more rich than off the coast of Texas or Louisiana. And so there's trillions of dollars and they've already built a pipeline up through there that goes up to Turkey. So Turkey is involved, Erdogan acts like he doesn't like Netanyahu. Those guys are on the, they're Siamese twins, they're joined at the hip.

1:14:34 And so it's all, and the US is involved, wants to act like it's not because it wants to stop the Belt and Road out of China and all the way through into Russia and Europe. They want this other pipeline they're building up into Europe out of there. And there's gas all the way up from Israel, Lebanon, Syria, all the way. And so Israel wants to build the main industrial shipping hub for shipping liquid natural gas and the pipeline up to Europe. It's got probably more gas than frickin Alaska. I mean, it's got more gas than Kuwait, more gas than areas there where Russia intersects with Ukraine. This is one of the richest gas fields in the world, trillions and trillions of pure liquid natural gas and oil. It's near surface by the way, it's not deep.

1:15:26 And so it is a gold mine. So you hear Jerry Kushner, I'm gonna build condos here. And these weird AI videos with Trump, it's gonna be so beautiful. And Saudi Arabia wants to come in and offers to pay to make it all nice and give all the Palestinians jobs. That's all a cover. The hotels and the swimming pools and casinos are nothing. It's that hub, cuz the southern hub, you can say, well, there's natural gas all the way from right there in the Mediterranean up to Syria. But you gotta have the hub at the start of it for the pipeline to come up out of Israel. And so this is not even debated. So we're talking, they're saying like $7 trillion in current numbers just off the coast of Gaza. You add it all up, it's over 20 trillion, you can leverage that. Then you have the military control. Israel has never actually

1:16:18 by Tel Aviv, they've never had a proper port. And so this is about strategic alliances and control and blocking China. So I don't want to just blame Israel and all the Israel. It's all about the US acts like, like Trump, oh please do a deal with Gaza. Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb the next week, you know, eight years ago. Does it again. Oh, please don't hit Gaza. No, the US and its interests are absolutely aligned with Israel. Yeah. In that sense, I think you're right. What is the endgame in the Ukraine? We are still cutting big checks. We're still spending a lot of money It seems like we're trying to get that country nuked that I mean, hopefully there'll be a deal in place the price vice president said he thought that was a very big possibility, but it seems like the Policy of America is to push Putin into a corner until he uses some type of tactical nuclear weapon I I mean, I I can't see any other endgame here. I

1:17:17 Well, as usual, your analysis just yourself is accurate. The head of France's finance, the head of their military, the head of Sweden, Germany, the UK have all said the last two years, you look this up, they said our business plan is a 20 to 30 year conventional war with Russia that will bankrupt Russia, will finally break Russia up in five parts. Well, that didn't work. Russia's outperforming weapons production, conventional munitions, artillery shells three to one, drones three to one. So that's not working. And so the EU has collapsed financially, it wants this and you've got

1:17:57 Just like Vietnam turned out with McNamara. He later admitted this before he died in the documentary. It was just a big war game and to make money. They wanted a place where they could have won very quickly bombing the North. They could have won destroying it, but they never did that because it was just a way to pump. I mean, LBJ made like back then, like 20 billion, like 3 billion himself. Just off dredging out the ocean and putting in ports. So it's all a giant war game and you've had for 15 years the US and Soros overthrowing governments Ukraine, stirring it up, poking the Russians. And then they don't care as long as they can keep it going. They've laundered $300 billion in just the last few years and it's all a big weapons laboratory.

1:18:43 And so to them they don't care. And it's a I mean they're talking about 30% of the EU budget now going to Ukraine. Psychotic. For the next. Yeah, so a war is a big black hole that you can launder money through. And at the end of the day, Putin's more popular than ever that he's in a war like it's not the Iranians and Netanyahu go wink-wink right moolahs are super unpopular now They're popular. You know Putin was already popular. He's even more popular, right? It's not like they go wink-wink, but war is the health of the state You know if you go back to the movie or on Henry the eighth called the king. Oh

1:19:22 which is a true story. He finds out at the end that his ministers have a rebellion in England with the Scots and the Irish and the Welsh, which is all true story. These letters are public now, they've been public for hundreds of years. And his French cousin, they're really all just Norman from William the Conqueror, they're not even French or British, they're all Vikings that conquered France and England. And they don't tell the new young king cuz his other brother died, so they had to have him when his dad died. This is a true story. And so he goes and has to have a war with France and all his buddies die. He wins and this minister comes to the end and says, you did a really good job. We staged all this. That's why he meets with the king of France, even though he killed his son. He goes, great job. You're really a real leader. And then he meets with the head minister.

1:20:13 And the ex-checker head goes, we staged all this for you, sir. Now you've put down all the rebellions. You are now the true king of England. And he kills him, which is a true story. He pulls a dagger out because his best friend died and stabs him to death. Learning this whole thing was staged. Real people died. It was a real war, but it was totally staged to put down rebellions in France and in England. And now that's how the real world works. Psychotic, unfortunate. I hope the Trump administration comes clean. It's the only way forward. People in this country need, you cannot have the abuse of children go unchecked. You cannot let foreign governments have leverage over our government and influence that, you know, makes us, you know, completely ignore all of our principles. Not to say that we are

1:20:59 passive or that we are little angel cakes, as you would say, we're certainly not. But everybody, we need to get all the information out and I appreciate you. I think you're doing an amazing job and I love that you still come on my show and I really appreciate you and a lot of people do. I've been begging to come on your show. I wish you'd come to Austin, but let me just add this final point. Yes. These Machiavellians think because they think in all this twisted, tindi chest that they're smart. No, it's sick. You said it earlier. This big economist Martin Armstrong says we're very close to nuclear war rank operation does we understand conquest we understand duplicitous But with nuclear weapons and with biological weapons and with nine billion people we have to stop the conquest economy We've got to have real peace Yeah, and we keep hearing about all this peace But it's not it's got to stop because it could get out of control you ask will there be nuclear war yes on the threat escalation ladder

1:21:55 It goes from one to like 44 in the Rand Corporation. Everybody uses the same model. We're at like 35 now. A few more, remember two years ago Biden said we can't give F-16s and Abrams tanks, that's World War III because it goes up the escalation ladder. We're now to Trump met with Zelensky two weeks ago and said maybe we'll bomb Moscow so they'll stop. You see, it just goes and goes and goes. And the elites would rather destroy the world than sacrifice their positions of power. Exactly, they've got their bunkers like Dr. Strangelove is based on a true story when Curtis LeMay and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Ellen Lemmister, come to a movie came out in 64, made in 63, it's all declassified. And I know it's giving Kubrick and all the inside stuff, but it's just a film's made up, this is a final thing.

1:22:41 Curtis LeMay, the deputy head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Ellen Lemester, look this up folks. They come in the last year of the Eisenhower administration, Supreme Allied Commander, super hardcore, was mad at the Germans and said, well, there's only food for other people, we'll starve 2 million to death. Wasn't like he was a pussy at the end of the war. They come to him, they say, sir, We're gonna bomb our own military bases and shoot down our own planes. And we're gonna blame the Russians and say the Cubans did it. We've got a plan to sneak attack Russia. And we think we'll only lose 20 million Americans in their nuclear response. But if we wait a few years, under mutually assured destruction, they'll be able to take us out.

1:23:19 And he fired them. Yeah. And then they tried to come back and Kennedy fired them. That's Operation Northwoods. The movie Dr. Strangelove was leaked basically to Kubrick and he made the film to show what happened. They were literally in meetings talking about mine shafts and how we could get gross domestic product up even in the worst case scenario, they knocked out most of the population. And they came to Eisenhower and then they tried again. Guess who the adjunct of LL Eminser was? Who? Like 27, Donald Rumsfeld. Wow. So when you see 9-11 and the Project American Century, it's the same people and then Dick Cheney, he brought in. So this is literally the ghost of LL Eminser and the ghost of Curtis LeMay. The movie Dr. Strangelove is a documentary.

1:24:08 of what almost happened. The Cuban Missile Crisis, declassified. The US put Nike missiles on the border of Russia in several places, including Turkey, medium range nukes. Russia put nukes there. I'm not a Russian, I've never been to Russia. The point is that we're all told in school books, the Russians put medium range nukes in Cuba because they're No, Khrushchev was on TV saying get your missiles out, but our media was so controlled nobody knew we put missiles on their border. So it's the same story. It's not the average American's bad, it's not that Eisenhower's bad or Kennedy was bad. We have these crazy power mad generals and now what have we done? We've put missiles on Russia's border. That's what Russia said a year ago. They said,

1:24:51 You've already are hitting us every day with medium range hypersonic missiles. We can't stop. If you hit us two or three a day, we won't respond. But if we see a large aeronautic attack of hundreds or thousands of missiles, we have to believe it's a nuclear sneak attack because that's how they can shoot. These things go Mach 5, Mach 10. They can take out all the Russian bases. Most of Russia's weapons are in the West. Most of Russia's weapons are in the West. They say if you shoot a bunch of these, we gotta go ahead and nuke you, cuz we've gotta believe it's a nuclear sneak attack. That's why we're so close. You ask, are we close to nuclear war? The atomic energy scientist group out of Chicago, the most respected, has said we are the closest to nuclear war. Remember you heard two minutes to midnight? It used to be two minutes to midnight. We're something like 20 seconds to nuclear war now. So with the Cuban Missile Crisis, that's two

1:25:37 Two minutes to midnight means total nuclear war. The last time I checked, we're 20 seconds from midnight. That's your answer. Follow me at realalexjones on X, Infowars.com, Ford slash show. And I love you, Tim Dillon. Love you, Alex Jones. Thank you so much. Alex Jones, everyone. Thank you. I am here. because there is a concerted effort by the Democratic Party and multinational corporations and big tech to silence conservative and nationalist and populist voices. CNN is not just fake news. It's the criminal news network that works as a racketeering crime syndicate to openly shut down my media operations and other people's media operations. Alex Jones obviously is a well-known conspiracy theorist whose brand is bullying. You didn't call me to testify in America. I have a right to fix my accusers.

1:32:34 of Ultra Methylene Blue at thealexshowstore.com and get a second bottle free right now in the limited time offer at thealexshowstore.com. Powered by Methylene Blue, Ultra Methylene Blue at thealexshowstore.com. Well, I could not think of a better time to have the incredible Congresswoman from Georgia, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Joining us, there is so much to talk about in the limited 20 minutes or so we have with her. Obviously, the firestorm over the Epstein 180 now, we're being told the special counsel is going to be appointed. That's from my Justice Department sources. It's also in the news.

1:33:18 Trump's saying he wants to set things right. Obviously, she's introduced legislation on the weather war weapons and what's going on with DARPA and secretive projects there with weather modification, geoengineering, and so much more. Representative MTG, at-rep MTG, I want to thank her so much for joining us at this historic moment. Congresswoman, great to see your shining face as usual. You look amazing. Where do you want to start first? Boy, there's a lot to talk about, Alex. The first thing I'd like to talk about is how Americans overwhelmingly voted in November for President Trump. And one of the reasons why they support President Trump is no more foreign wars and United States not being involved.

1:34:03 in Ukraine, in Middle East. And this was something that was cheered for at rallies. And I know that because I went to more rallies than any member of Congress. And in my speeches, I talked about no more funding, no more weapons to Ukraine. And they cheered and cheered and cheered. So, it's, I think this is a departure from what we voted for to see the president announce that he wants to sell American military weapons to NATO and then NATO give these weapons to Ukraine. And there's some important things to talk about there, Alex.

1:34:43 Number one, Ukraine is not a member of NATO. So there is no reason for NATO to be defending Ukraine. Number two, we are one of the largest funders of NATO. And so if NATO is purchasing military weapons from the United States, the American people are paying for it because we are the largest funder of NATO. And we have so many problems, Alex. My kids are 22, 25 and 27. And the biggest issues plaguing 20-year-olds, 30-year-olds, and even 40-year-olds is the fact that housing is unaffordable, rent is unaffordable, insurance is unaffordable, bills are unaffordable. We have a drug crisis and homeless crisis in America, and we have a mental health crisis. And young people today are looking towards a future that seems hopeless. And if we're moving towards World War III by

1:35:35 by escalating the war in Ukraine, by providing them offensive, not only defensive, but offensive weapons. I think this is the wrong direction for President Trump. I think it's the wrong direction for America. And the American people showed their support for no more U.S. involvement by their cheers and boos in the rallies. and never forget the rally in South Carolina, pick in South Carolina, where Lindsey Graham was literally booed off the rally stage in his own hometown because he has been the leader in the Senate and here in Washington, D.C., dragging America into involvement in Ukraine. And I can't express that loud enough. And so I think this is a major issue to pay attention to, Alex.

1:36:26 It's not wrong to say, ask President Trump not to get America involved in this. It's absolutely the absolutely right thing to do because he has neocons in his ear daily, day in and day out here in Washington, D.C., urging him to get involved. He's got the European leaders lighting up his phone, urging him to get involved, but But you know, it's unfair that every day Americans don't get to call the president and ask him not to get involved in this war. And so this is why I'm talking about it and I myself am urging President Trump directly

1:37:03 not to get America involved in this war. And I don't think this will de-escalate. I fully believe that Putin will not back down. Russia is a nuclear armed nation. Well, Marjorie Taylor Greene is our guest here. You see the headlines everywhere. Marjorie Taylor Greene goes to war with Trump over broken promises. I don't call it going to war. We are his constituents. There's a tug of war with the neocons and globalists trying to get us into these wars, trying to cover up the Epstein, trying to increase spending. They want to act like it's traitorous for constituents to put pressure on members of Congress. That's what we're supposed to do. We love Trump overall. Congresswoman, you were just in the last segment basically going there, but talking about this incredibly dangerous escalation of Trump talking to Zelensky and openly saying, we may give heavy weapons to them very soon. Trump's given a 50-day deadline.

1:38:03 to start bombing Moscow itself with US directed weapons. The Russians say that will lead to nuclear Armageddon. I agree, Putin won't back down. This is madness. Who is in his ear? Tell us what's happening and what can we do? Well, and I agree with you, Alex. It's not disloyal to the president to urge him on what America truly cares about. That's not disloyalty. That's the right thing to do. And And you're so right, this will not deescalate. It's going to escalate. And I think everyone just needs to realize that you voted for President Trump, you voted for Republicans to have the majority, and you're the people, you're the power, and your voice matters. So please speak up, and this is a very important time to do so.

1:38:53 And there's other issues, Alex, that I think are incredibly important. There's a vote happening this week in the House on a bill that the American people hardly know anything about called the Genius Act. And the Genius Act has already passed the Senate. President Trump is urging us in the House to pass this bill. He's posted it on Truth Social. Leadership is urging us to pass this bill, but I just want to give you a brief description in the bill. It sets up a federal framework to regulate stablecoin. And it's definitely pro digital currencies. However, here's one problem with the Genius Act. It does not ban a central bank digital currency. And it actually sets up the federal framework

1:39:45 to allow a backdoor to a central bank digital currency, which I'm largely against and I believe probably everyone watching your show is largely against. And President Trump, I just want you to know, on January 23rd and I'm sure your staff will find this for you. Signed an executive order and a very important executive order setting up digital financial technology. And there were there's two things that are in his executive order that are not in the Genius Act. One of them is giving people the ability to maintain self custody of digital assets.

1:40:20 That's incredibly important to people that own cryptocurrency stable coins. And then the second thing that is not in the Genius Act, but is in his executive order, is a complete prohibition, a ban on central bank digital currency in the United States and abroad. And so here's the problem with the Genius Act. They didn't give us a chance to introduce amendments. The House leadership did not allow us to do that. And there's some of us that very much wanted to introduce an amendment to ban a ban on central bank digital currency, and we weren't allowed to amend this bill. And today they're having the rule vote at 1.30 on the Genius Act, and it's paired with the Department of Defense Appropriations bill.

1:41:14 bill and I'm afraid that's going to pass. And then we're supposed to vote on the genius act this week, I think on Thursday and it will, it will probably pass even with the help of Democrat. And I just, I just, Look, I think we always have to watch our government and we always have to watch legislation because there's things that creep in legislation that shouldn't be there no matter who is in charge, no matter if the people you voted for are in charge. And a good example of that recently happening was the AI moratorium for 10 years on state rights to make laws and regulate AI. And that should have never been in the big beautiful bill. And I love how you and I, you particularly got called a traitor a few weeks, a month ago for demanding that be taken out, basically an AI dictatorship by the law. And then finally it got voted on 99 senators

1:40:20 That's incredibly important to people that own cryptocurrency stable coins. And then the second thing that is not in the Genius Act, but is in his executive order, is a complete prohibition, a ban on central bank digital currency in the United States and abroad. And so here's the problem with the Genius Act. They didn't give us a chance to introduce amendments. The House leadership did not allow us to do that. And there's some of us that very much wanted to introduce an amendment to ban a ban on central bank digital currency, and we weren't allowed to amend this bill. And today they're having the rule vote at 1.30 on the Genius Act, and it's paired with the Department of Defense Appropriations bill.

1:41:14 bill and I'm afraid that's going to pass. And then we're supposed to vote on the genius act this week, I think on Thursday and it will, it will probably pass even with the help of Democrat. And I just, I just, Look, I think we always have to watch our government and we always have to watch legislation because there's things that creep in legislation that shouldn't be there no matter who is in charge, no matter if the people you voted for are in charge. And a good example of that recently happening was the AI moratorium for 10 years on state rights to make laws and regulate AI. And that should have never been in the big beautiful bill. And I love how you and I, you particularly got called a traitor a few weeks, a month ago for demanding that be taken out, basically an AI dictatorship by the law. And then finally it got voted on 99 senators

1:42:08 To one, so you again, over and over again is this narrative. It's not even about defending you. It's that anytime someone stays loyal to America, loyal to freedom, warns Trump, which we're supposed to do, then we get stuff pulled and the deep state runs articles that we're not loyal when they're the open globalist enemies. And I see a lot of this even from the influencers. Don't ever ask questions, just whatever special interests say, it's supposedly Trump. No, Trump needs us to raise the alarm. That's right, Alex, they do. They run articles against us. They have paid influencers that post against us and accuse us of being disloyal when actually we're the most loyal. And then there's even paid bots that jump on our accounts and jump in our comments and tell lies about us. Alex, I would say you, myself, Tucker Carlson, Steve Bannon and others,

1:43:01 We're actually the most loyal in MAGA because we continue to urge the president and we continue to urge him to stay with America first and the MAGA principles that he founded. And that's the right thing to do. And I would encourage people look you got to stay focused on the agenda. Don't let lobbyists or industries here in Washington D.C. or the deep state really take over our legislation and take us away from the agenda. And the neocons are, I mean, here's what I think's happened, Alex. I think the neocons and the establishment Republicans are the ones wearing the MAGA hats in Washington, D.C. right now, and it makes me sick.

1:43:40 And they are hijacking our movement. They're hijacking the party. And it's unreal that it's happening. But in November, it was about MAGA finally defeating the establishment Republicans and the neocons. But they are coming roaring back. And so I just look, I am committed to my district representing them and their ability to have a future in America and their businesses to be successful, their children to have a safe, prosperous secure future and I'm unapologetic in voting for those things. Whoever's given this advice, and we now know who in the White House, has really walked him into a trap, which I believe is on purpose. This is the stupidest thing ever. I don't believe anybody above a 70 IQ would do this. Now, Laura Trump comes out and says, don't worry, they're about to actually reinvestigate. I've been told it's in the news that they are looking at a special counsel. Can you briefly speak to that? And then also your geoengineering legislation to ban that with these unprecedented NOAA level floods around the country.

1:44:56 Yes, real quick, I'll try to move on those. I fully support a special counsel. I support having all the information released. We should be the party of transparency, not the party that covers up the people that surrounded the most well-known pedophile in modern day history. That disgusts me and I really want to see Pam Bondi, Cash Patel, Dan Bongino lead the effort in exposing those people, the powerful rich elites that always get away with everything when we see ordinary Americans constantly feel the hammer of justice come down on them. So I'm like you, I fully support a continued effort to release those names and those people. That's the right thing to do. Secondly, I do want to talk about the weather modification and geoengineering bill that I'm introducing. It's called the Clear Skies Act.

1:45:48 This is a bill that's going to ban weather modification and geoengineering, and it has incredible support from Americans all over the country. Alex, here's the reality. They can say that they're doing cloud seeding and it has no effect, no ill effect or no bad effect, but they cannot prove it. Nowhere can they prove that because man does not control the weather, God does. and cloud seeding, weather modification, all types of geoengineering. When it's done, it is not done in a controlled laboratory. It's not done in a controlled building just for their customers, whether it's governments or farmers or ski lodges or whoever is hiring them. That is not done in a controlled environment for their paying customers. It's done wide open in all of our skies

1:46:40 And the outcome and the results affect everyone, whether you paid for it, whether you support it, or whether you are extremely against it. And so this is a powerful bill and we need to reign this in. And Alex, I know you've talked about it for a very long time and it's been called a conspiracy theory. I was attacked. a couple of years ago when I started talking about it, called crazy and conspiracy theorists. Well, now Americans are finding out this is very real. It's been happening for a very long time. And it has very consequential and even deadly results, unfortunately and tragically on people and property. Absolutely, Congresswoman, I know you gotta go and we've been very gracious with the time. But I just wanna say this. I can see a big issue, know the facts, have my view,

1:47:30 And then I literally go look on your ex account and it's word for word what I haven't even said yet on air. It's like we're simpatico because we've got a big knowledge base, we're researching, and we're not just looking at it minute to minute, two-dimensionally, we're looking at it three, fourth-dimensionally. And I gotta say, you are hands down the best congressperson we've got. I hope you become president someday and you're just amazing. 60-second question, I'll let you go. Okay. Do you have any inside baseball? I've got some, maybe I can tell you off air about who told Trump that we should just move on from this and direct people to shut down this investigation. Obvious giant fiasco. It looks good that he's starting to back out of that and understands nothing to hide, bring it out. Do we have any idea why the hell this giant Epstein fiasco started?

1:46:40 And the outcome and the results affect everyone, whether you paid for it, whether you support it, or whether you are extremely against it. And so this is a powerful bill and we need to reign this in. And Alex, I know you've talked about it for a very long time and it's been called a conspiracy theory. I was attacked. a couple of years ago when I started talking about it, called crazy and conspiracy theorists. Well, now Americans are finding out this is very real. It's been happening for a very long time. And it has very consequential and even deadly results, unfortunately and tragically on people and property. Absolutely, Congresswoman, I know you gotta go and we've been very gracious with the time. But I just wanna say this. I can see a big issue, know the facts, have my view,

1:47:30 And then I literally go look on your ex account and it's word for word what I haven't even said yet on air. It's like we're simpatico because we've got a big knowledge base, we're researching, and we're not just looking at it minute to minute, two-dimensionally, we're looking at it three, fourth-dimensionally. And I gotta say, you are hands down the best congressperson we've got. I hope you become president someday and you're just amazing. 60-second question, I'll let you go. Okay. Do you have any inside baseball? I've got some, maybe I can tell you off air about who told Trump that we should just move on from this and direct people to shut down this investigation. Obvious giant fiasco. It looks good that he's starting to back out of that and understands nothing to hide, bring it out. Do we have any idea why the hell this giant Epstein fiasco started?

1:48:18 Well, I can only speculate publicly, but I can talk to you offline about it and I would like to do that. But I think that we know that it's not just the American government that is involved or was involved with Jeffrey Epstein. I believe it's foreign countries' governments. Some people have said Israel. It may be Israel. It could be the UK. We don't actually know. I don't know. I haven't seen the evidence. So I can't give a concrete explanation based on the evidence. However, those are the speculations and guess what? It's not wrong to speculate that and it's not wrong to say that. And I really encourage everyone that continues to ask questions. This has been the first fracture in MAGA and we don't want this to happen anymore.

1:49:06 Congresswoman, let's talk soon. You let me know the time. I'd love to brief you because we've got actually some documents on that. And it's very as to what you said. It's MI6 Mossad. The Brits are on record kind of creating the pedophile control system last 70 years. Mossad has picked up heavily on it. We know the former Israeli Prime Minister got caught at Epstein's a lot in New York, but it's actually a joint group. And you're absolutely right that that's the pressure that is becoming to bear with the CIA saying, hey, this is intelligence, a joint operation. The CIA was involved as a junior partner, that's just the facts. And you got Robert Maxwell, and it was the head guy running this for MI6 Mossad on record. Then you have his daughter running the franchise. Basically, Epstein was under her.

1:49:50 And that's why this is overall being suppressed. And it's the agency's trying to defend themselves. So I'd love to brief you on that. Thank you so much for all you're doing and I look forward to speaking to you again. Thank you, Alex. Wow, an amazingly powerful, important interview. And again, she got viciously attacked last Monday. They said this is a terrible idea. We know there's all these Epstein files, not just a client list. We know there's 14 terabytes of videos. You know, Bondi said it's Epstein raping kids and now it's porn. And no, it's not him. Trump does wanna move on. He's got all these other big issues like trying to stop nuclear war. But at the end of the day, this is about bringing down the deep state, not taking it over, not defending it. Hello Americans, I'm Paul Harvey. If I were the devil.

1:50:46 If I were the Prince of Darkness, I'd want to engulf the whole world in darkness. And I'd have a third of its real estate and four-fifths of its population, but I wouldn't be happy until I had seized the ripest apple on the tree. So I set about however necessary to take over the United States. President Kennedy has been seriously wounded by this shooting. I'd subvert the churches first. I'd begin with a campaign of whispers. With the wisdom of a serpent, I would whisper to you as I whispered to Eve. Do as you please. To the young I would whisper that the Bible is a myth. I would convince them that man created God instead of the other way around. I would confide that what's bad is good and what's good is square.

1:51:25 and the old I would teach to pray after me. Our father, witch art in Washington. And then I'd get organized. I'd educate authors in how to make lurid literature exciting so that anything else would appear dull and uninteresting. I'd threaten TV with dirtier movies and vice versa. I'd peddle narcotics to whom I could. I'd sell alcohol to ladies and gentlemen of distinction. I'd tranquilize the rest with pills. If I were the devil, I'd soon have families at war with themselves, churches at war with themselves, and nations at war with themselves, until each in its turn was consumed. And with promises of higher ratings, I'd have mesmerizing media fanning the flame.

1:52:07 The president of the United States is racist. If I were the devil, I would encourage schools to refine young intellects, but neglect the discipline of emotions, just let those run wild. Within a decade, I'd have prisons overflowing, I'd have judges promoting pornography. Soon I could evict God from the courthouse, then from the schoolhouse, and then from the houses of Congress. And in his own churches, I would substitute psychology for religion. I would lure priests and pastors into misusing boys and girls and church money. If I were the devil, I'd take from those who have and give to those who wanted until I had killed the incentive of the ambitious.

1:58:08 to make an amendment to put a ban on CBDC in the Genius Act. We were told, you don't have a right to amendments. You don't get to do your legislative process anymore. You just have to vote on it. And they forced it through making what I think is a fake deal. And I wish the Freedom Caucus had held, but they didn't. They want to work and they want to pass the president's agenda, and I do too. But I'm not willing to go along with the path to a central bank digital currency in a cashless society where none of us can control our money. Because I don't trust the government and no one else should trust the government. And just because this administration is committed to that doesn't mean that a future administration will not lock down our bank accounts if we are not doing and saying what they want us to do. We've already been there, that was the past four years. When you go past one of these

1:59:03 number plate cameras when you quote shouldn't. You won't be able to challenge the fine because the fine will be taken out of your digital account the moment you transgress. At the world's busiest airport in Atlanta, the TSA checkpoint has gotten a high-tech upgrade. Using this facial recognition camera system to compare a flyer's face to their picture on their ID in seconds. The Genius Act, already greenlit by a bipartisan Senate, claims to slap a federal harness on stable coins. Stable coins aim for price stability through mechanisms like backing each coin with reserves of cash

1:59:47 bonds or other assets. The Clarity Act is a tug of war over who gets to leash these digital assets. Will it be the SEC or the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, the CFTC, potentially prying them loose from the SEC's iron grip? A move the crypto rebels have been howling for. The Anti-CBDC Surveillance State Act championed by Republicans, aims to slam the door on a central bank digital currency, citing nightmares of government snooping and control. Yet many warn of a sinister backdoor, a legislative sleight of hand that could see these bills

2:00:29 If watered down in the Senate or hitched to must-pass juggernauts like the NDAA, could pave the way for a CBDC Trojan horse. It's really hard to overstate how dangerous it is. It is literally the mark of the beast system, a global social credit score. the ESG corporate governance systems right down into your smart devices, your phone, the smart appliances, the AI, surveilling everyone in live time. You don't expect your air fried chips to come with a side of surveillance, but research has found they might. Do I need umbrella for tomorrow in London? From tracking locations to listening to conversations, to knowing your gender and date of birth, our devices

2:01:15 is, in some cases, are acutely smart. And so it's really the ring of SORON to bind everybody together with total control. And we have the head of the IMF and the World Bank and the International Bank of Settlements and the head of the UN and all of them. We have Tedros, the head of the WHO, saying we need a global central bank digital currency. everything you do to lock you down during new pandemics they've got planned. This is the mechanism, it'll be your internet ID, it'll do everything. And if we think as populist and conservatives and Christians and common sense people that we've been debanked and harassed as conservatives before, this is exponentially more dangerous. And the big international banks that the Federal Reserve is part of, private,

2:02:07 They have said this is their holy grail and they're really really trying to roll it out and so the fact that there is a pathway to this with a digital Central Bank digital currency dollar in this genius act and that only MTG and you and a few others have been exposing it It is a nightmare John Bowne reporting for InfoWars All right. I've been following John Kiriakou for over a decade longer Since the deep state, because he quietly privately tried to get them to stop illegally torturing people when he was the head of counterterrorism in Afghanistan and in other areas. So I'm gonna wear him since that happened, however many decades ago it was. And getting targeted by the Bushes and all the rest of them. And I've read a lot of his writings and I have just remembered the other day, I actually had one of his books, I read it years ago, he's a best selling author as well.

2:03:06 And we've done a couple good interviews with him, but man, I saw him on Tucker. I saw him on some other interviews. And I was like, wow, I wanna get that guy on. Cuz I was kinda guiding it with the questions I had at the time about Iran and where that was going. But he has had experiences, and again, I'm not on a jag here to attack Israel and just obsess on that all day. And I don't believe that again Israel previously was a dominant force other than our foreign policy in the Middle East, which General Wesley Clark and others exposed. We already knew it, Project American Century, Israeli neocons, US neocons, Rumsfeld, Wormser, all of them, won to take down in just five years seven countries. Well, here we are 25 years later, or 24 years later, and they've gotten six and now they won Iran.

2:03:57 who's allied with China and Russia and is not Iraq. And it's now never been clearer though, that Israel because the power vacuum and the Democrats in trouble and the lowest fundraising ever and their poll numbers the lowest ever. I mean, they're badly coordinated, Trump's cutting off the NGO money. They're redistricting, they're going after the election fraud. They're cutting off funding to the states that don't put in voter ID. I mean, we're on a roll, this is great. Except into that vacuum, we dealt with eight, nine years ago, the Democrats, Deep State, Brennan, Clapper, Comey. I was targeted, that's now been declassified partially, along with Trump, NSA, wiretaps, all of it, starting in 2013, because I knew Trump was getting ready to run. And I was lumped into that. And so I wouldn't call Brennan, Clapper, Obama, Israel operatives. I mean, they worked with Israel, but they were funding Arab Spring and their own agendas. But now, in my view,

2:04:52 Well researched, it is accurate to say China was the main threat. Obviously, nobody debated that, of espionage and economic and military threats. And then you can move down the chain from that, obviously Russia in there. But no, Israel not as a military threat per se, other than dragging us into war, so I guess it is. This is the top threat kind of, other than NATO keeping this thing going with Russia. But so I would say that the second largest military threat by proxy or by black hole, and then they are in my view the number one espionage, beyond espionage, really soft coup threat.

2:05:33 them moving into the vacuum of the White House. And then there's the taboo of criticizing anything Israel, you could call it baby Hitler. No, Israel is a powerful, sophisticated group. And it's a fact in my view that they are now attempting a coup over the policies of the United States. And not just militarily, but what companies get chosen for AI funding, all of it. And with their history of transfers to China and others, it's just insane. So I heard John Kiyosaki on several shows and he experienced, I only read one of his books, he's got I think 10 or more. The point is, he witnessed what I've been told by a lot of, I've had Mossad whistleblowers, famous ones on the show talking about this decades ago. But the fact that he never ran into any intelligence agency that behaved or acted like this. And so

2:06:26 I kind of been ranting there. I don't know his exact assessment of this, but does he think in general what I said is accurate? Or can he give us who he thinks the main threats are? And then looking into this, what he thinks of my statement that, I mean, I don't think it's even debatable that this is an attempted Israeli Likudnik takeover. And they kind of had that with George W Bush, at least on foreign policy. And then how he thinks we could extricate ourselves from that, or does he disagree with that? And what does he think of the bizarre Streisand effect. I mean, Trump couldn't be doing something worse to tie himself to Epstein as saying move on, there's nothing to see here. These aren't the droids you're looking for. You've got all that. So John Kiriakou, find all his books in a sub stack, everything at johnkiriakou.substack.com, johnkiriakou.com, K-I-R-I-A-K-O-U and so much more. He's a journalist.

2:07:15 And former CIA counterterrorism officer, head of counterterrorism, places like Afghanistan. And I won't go over his whole bio. And he was an internal whistleblower, so they tried to set him up. That's all been proven. So thank you so much, John, for joining us. I know that was a long intro. You've got the floor. Thank you so much. I have to say that I do agree with you. I've said for a very long time and I'm going to stake out really the same position that you just staked out. This has nothing to do with whether or not we like Israel. This has nothing to do with whether or not we believe Israel has a right to exist. Of course it has a right to exist. Nobody's debating that, at least very few people are debating that. But the issue is we cannot

2:06:26 I kind of been ranting there. I don't know his exact assessment of this, but does he think in general what I said is accurate? Or can he give us who he thinks the main threats are? And then looking into this, what he thinks of my statement that, I mean, I don't think it's even debatable that this is an attempted Israeli Likudnik takeover. And they kind of had that with George W Bush, at least on foreign policy. And then how he thinks we could extricate ourselves from that, or does he disagree with that? And what does he think of the bizarre Streisand effect. I mean, Trump couldn't be doing something worse to tie himself to Epstein as saying move on, there's nothing to see here. These aren't the droids you're looking for. You've got all that. So John Kiriakou, find all his books in a sub stack, everything at johnkiriakou.substack.com, johnkiriakou.com, K-I-R-I-A-K-O-U and so much more. He's a journalist.

2:07:15 And former CIA counterterrorism officer, head of counterterrorism, places like Afghanistan. And I won't go over his whole bio. And he was an internal whistleblower, so they tried to set him up. That's all been proven. So thank you so much, John, for joining us. I know that was a long intro. You've got the floor. Thank you so much. I have to say that I do agree with you. I've said for a very long time and I'm going to stake out really the same position that you just staked out. This has nothing to do with whether or not we like Israel. This has nothing to do with whether or not we believe Israel has a right to exist. Of course it has a right to exist. Nobody's debating that, at least very few people are debating that. But the issue is we cannot

2:08:00 chain ourselves to Israel for better or for worse and just pretend that that Israel's interests are always our interests. It's just simply not the case. And I have to say I laughed out loud when I saw in the clip that you ran. The Israelis claiming that they haven't spied on us since Jonathan Pollard. That is just simply false. I was in a debate with the former head of Mossad and Alan Dershowitz a few weeks ago on the Pierce Mortgage Show. And the former head of Mossad, General Danny something, said exactly the same thing. Well, we haven't spied on the United States since Jonathan Pollard. That's just not true. Pollard was arrested in 1985.

2:08:46 The year of the spy, if you remember, that's what Ronald Reagan declared it, the year of the spy. In 1990, five years later, on my very first day at the CIA, the CIA's head of security told us that the FBI had identified 187 undeclared Israeli intelligence officers spread all around the country for the purpose of stealing our defense secrets. They're targeting almost exclusively American defense contractors. And yes, they are a threat to our national security. And it's on record they sell it to China. That's not very friendly. That's the whole problem there. You know, on the one hand, we would say, OK,

2:09:32 It might even be akin to Canada stealing our secrets. All right, they shouldn't, but what are you gonna do? But it's not just that they steal our secrets to ensure that they are as safe as possible. They steal our secrets to then sell to the Russians or the Chinese, or not even to sell so much as to trade. For example, Jonathan Pollard, whose picture is on the screen right now, one of the most prolific spies in American history got 30 years in prison and did every single day of the 30 years. Jonathan Pollard gave the Israelis information on Russian, I'm sorry, Soviet troop movements, for example.

2:10:13 The Israeli government then gave that top secret information to the Soviets in exchange for the release of Soviet Jews and permission for them to emigrate to Israel. Well, you know what? I feel bad for the Soviet Jews and what they went through in the 1980s. But it is not up to the likes of Jonathan Pollard or the Israeli government to decide that the Soviet Union should have top secret American defense information. Well, Pollard wasn't a US citizen or remember correctly, but it's true. Yeah, he was. He was and he was working for the defense or the Naval Intelligence Service. I was kind of begging the question. The point is that's treason. Exactly. Yes. So, so, but it's like, oh, it's okay. He did it for Israel so he can give the Soviets our main enemy with nuclear submarines pointing missiles at us. It's okay. It's just, it's preposterous.

2:11:08 It is. It's outrageous. I spoke with a contact at the Israeli embassy recently and he said something that really bothered me very much. He said that embassy officials here in Washington are under orders to equate anti-Zionism with anti-Semitism. They've had success in doing this so far, but they want to get us to a point where if you disagree publicly with anything that the Israeli government does, it's because you're anti-Semitic. Well, a bunch of states, sir, as you know, Texas is the worst. And I overall like the governor, but on this he's crazy.

2:11:48 He's sanctioning San Marcos, a big city south of me from Austin, because some of their city council had a vote against the indiscriminate killing of civilians in Gaza. And he's saying, well, we're going to sanction you and put controls. And now they're making any business that gets a state contract pledge allegiance to Israel. Have you seen this? That's right. I have seen it. A friend of mine was contracted to give a speech at Georgia State University. And she was told that she had to sign a loyalty pledge to Israel as well. And she said, I'm American, I'm not Israeli, I'm not gonna sign a loyalty pledge. And so they canceled her speech. Now she's filed this-. I'm gonna ask Israel a question. I'm gonna add, and I'm gonna say it's one model of the group, but Netanyahu in their lobby.

2:12:34 I mean, it's like Nick Fuentes. He worked at the Daily Wire, was pro-Israel, so they tried to make him go to Israel, tried to sheep-dip him, basically, in their operations. He said, why are you doing this? I thought you're Americans. So then they fired him and then tried to get him banned everywhere, and then he turned into this. Don't they understand, like, going out and saying you gotta sign loyalty pledges on, like, 15 states to have a state contract? Or he's making people go, well, why do I have to do that? I mean, I couldn't figure out a way to turn people against me more. My gosh exactly right exactly right Even for people who don't follow these issues and don't care one way or the other about Israel. If somebody plopped a declaration in front of you and said, you have to sign this or you cannot have the contract. And what they're asking you to sign is a declaration saying that you will never criticize Israel. Who in their right mind would sign something like that?

2:13:33 McCarthy and others, and Eisenhower for a little while with Nixon, wanted loyalty oaths in the government that you were loyal to the US and not a communist. And people said that's unconstitutional. And I could see it was a little too far, but saying you're loyal to the US is bad, but you can say you gotta be loyal to Israel when you're a US citizen. Yeah, it doesn't make any kind of sense at all. I shouldn't laugh because it's not funny. It's actually quite dangerous. And I'll tell you, one of the things that bothers me the very, very most is that the Christian community here in the United States should be up in arms over things like this. The Israelis have essentially wiped out the indigenous Christian community in Israel, in the West Bank and in Gaza. Two weeks ago they just burned down one of the oldest Christian settlements, the Jewish settlers did.

2:14:20 That's exactly right. They burned it down and they destroyed a St. Porfirios Church in Gaza, the oldest continually operating Christian church anywhere in the world. And we're not permitted to complain about that? It doesn't make sense. So where do you see this going? And looking at the Trump administration, because I know you're dialed in, How much Israeli infiltration, we can't say exactly, but it's pretty blatant at this point. I mean, we know they're in control of the Middle Eastern policy to a great extent, but I mean, it looks like they're going for broke. How bad is it? I think it's bad. But I will say that the move of the American embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem aside,

2:15:11 I think that President Trump is very serious when he talks about guaranteeing Israel's right to exist and guaranteeing Israel's security. That's fine. I think he truly believes that the Abraham Accords are a force for peace and that things will get better if Saudi Arabia joins the Abraham Accords. Great, but President Trump is in this unique situation right now where he can be the one to bring some sort of real peace to the region. There was a piece in Haaretz, the wonderful Israeli newspaper just a couple of weeks ago, saying that one of the things that the president is suggesting, and we haven't seen this from the American side yet. We've seen it only in Haaretz. But one of the things that the president is suggesting is that

2:16:00 Gaza fall administratively under the auspices of Saudi Arabia, that it disarm so there would be no Gaza military or Gaza police force. The Saudis would develop the Gaza economy by building a port, an airport, an electrical grid. Flood it with money, put everybody to work, allow them to manufacture something that they can export. And then you don't need all this fighting anymore. And then Netanyahu steps up attacks because he doesn't want that. Exactly. Just like Israel helped create Hamas to destabilize it. It's the same story. Yes, couldn't agree more. That is disgusting.

2:16:41 It's awful, and what's incredible to me is that he doesn't see how incredibly short-sighted this is. I was in a restaurant in New York the other day, and I was talking to a friend of mine, having lunch with a friend of mine, and we were talking about these very issues. And there were these two women next to us, both in their 80s, and they were quietly listening to what we had to say. And then finally one of them said, excuse me, I couldn't help but to overhear your conversation. We're both Jewish, and we agree with you on this issue. They said Netanyahu is so far to the right. That he's forcing people who otherwise would be pro-Israel or wouldn't be paying attention one way or the other to become anti-Israel. And it's a short walk from being anti-Israel to being anti-Semitic. That it is Netanyahu who is creating anti-Semitism. I totally agree. And even Michael Savage is a pro-American. He's not an Israel first guy, but he's pro-Israel. He says Netanyahu needs to go.

2:17:42 Just a couple of days ago, I was on the Piers Morgan show again and I was on with Jack Posobiec and two left wing bloggers. And at the end, Piers asked us about our position on Israel. Every one of the four of us said, of course, Israel has a right to exist. Israel has a right to defend itself. But my God, slaughtering tens of thousands. hundreds of thousands perhaps of women, children, elderly, you flatten all seven of those. On TV, it's the first televised genocide and then you flatten all of the hospitals. There's not enough food for anybody. People are dying of thirst. Come on, where's the end here? It's too much. And then Pierce said that that was probably the first time that he added four guests who agreed across the board.

2:18:32 Israel. And then you've got the left that is just frothing, basically pro Hitler now, while they call conservatives Hitler with no evidence. Yeah, that doesn't help. It doesn't help. No, no, that doesn't help. We've got to be constructive. Like you just said, this is a genocide. This is a genocide and there is still a chance to save some people. So we've got to do the right thing here. We've got to stand up for the Israelis. October 7th he announced out of the Old Testament, the ethnic cleansing. I mean, he said we're going to cleanse this. And if you look at the international accords that have been signed since the end of the Second World War, this is the definition. This is the legal definition of ethnic cleansing. And ethnic cleansing is a form of genocide.

2:17:42 Just a couple of days ago, I was on the Piers Morgan show again and I was on with Jack Posobiec and two left wing bloggers. And at the end, Piers asked us about our position on Israel. Every one of the four of us said, of course, Israel has a right to exist. Israel has a right to defend itself. But my God, slaughtering tens of thousands. hundreds of thousands perhaps of women, children, elderly, you flatten all seven of those. On TV, it's the first televised genocide and then you flatten all of the hospitals. There's not enough food for anybody. People are dying of thirst. Come on, where's the end here? It's too much. And then Pierce said that that was probably the first time that he added four guests who agreed across the board.

2:18:32 Israel. And then you've got the left that is just frothing, basically pro Hitler now, while they call conservatives Hitler with no evidence. Yeah, that doesn't help. It doesn't help. No, no, that doesn't help. We've got to be constructive. Like you just said, this is a genocide. This is a genocide and there is still a chance to save some people. So we've got to do the right thing here. We've got to stand up for the Israelis. October 7th he announced out of the Old Testament, the ethnic cleansing. I mean, he said we're going to cleanse this. And if you look at the international accords that have been signed since the end of the Second World War, this is the definition. This is the legal definition of ethnic cleansing. And ethnic cleansing is a form of genocide.

2:19:20 And remember, a year ago, Netanyahu floated a memo to move the Gazans not to Egypt but to Europe and the US. And again, people don't know, Saudi Arabia is reforming, I have you in there more of an expert than I. They are really working with Israel. They've talked to Trump. They would set it all up, have security, turn it into a beautiful golf courses, hotels, beautiful beach. Everybody would have jobs. They would kick Hezbollah, Hamas out. And it would be great, Israel would have a trading partner right there and Saudi Arabia's like ready and they're reforming and they're saying women are gonna get the burkas off. So we see reform starting and Netanyahu's like no, we're taking it all. And they think we can't do translation, we can watch the national TV shows in Hebrew and I mean it is just frothing, absolutely frothing. We're gonna kill all these people and they don't know that people are watching that?

2:20:18 Yes, seriously. On my very first overseas tour with the CIA, I was stationed in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. And toward the end of my tour, the Saudis came to us. They came to talk to the US ambassador, Ambassador Chas Freeman. And they said, look, we have this idea for Gaza. Hamas had just been formed, but they had this idea for Gaza where Where they go in and they work with the Israelis to build a port and an airport. And that would allow the Israelis to ship things out of Gaza, would put Gazans to work. Maybe they could encourage some manufacturing. They would allow fishing. For example, the Gazans are not allowed to fish. Can you imagine? It's a coastal enclave and they're not allowed to fish.

2:21:05 And so we went to the Israelis informally and said, look, the Saudis are willing to pay for all this. They wanna bring electricity. They wanna bring clean water and a port and an airport. And the Israelis said, absolutely not. Now that was 34 years ago, and we're still having the same conversation. Yeah, and then again, for people out there, Netanyahu says he's defending civilization. You don't create Hamas, have them destabilize it, admittedly, so there's not a good leadership that's reasonable. Lately, Turkey, NATO, and Israel put in the leader of Al-Qaeda in Syria, and then Israel goes, well, we blew up their military, so it's okay. It's total statelet destabilization, great game, balkanization crap.

2:21:51 And it's evil and the public understands it. Not the crazy left kill all the Jew people. We're not talking about the Soros fund of people who I think they funded that to make, to actually bolster it. But we're talking about reasonable people like Trump wanting to fix this and Netanyahu saying no and then waving his moral flag around that he's against Hamas when he's been their sugar daddy until what, three years ago. I'm glad you used the word Balkanization just now because that's exactly what we're seeing happen. And we're seeing it happen in slow motion. You mentioned at the start of this segment, that there's one of the last Christian villages in the West Bank is being wiped out this week. As we speak, there are Israeli settlers from New Jersey and New York and they're forcing Palestinian Christians out of their homes, burning down their olive trees, and they're just taking their land, seizing their land. Well, what we're seeing if you look at a map of the

2:22:49 of the West Bank now is you see these little circles and they dot the map and those are Israeli settlements. That's what Bosnia looks like, right? That's what Republika Srpska looks like in the Balkans. It's these little islands surrounded by the land of another state. And these little statelets don't work. They don't work. Well, like I said, Trump coming out and saying don't look into Epstein is a total stress in effect. A five year old would know that. Israel on TV saying we're taking all the land from the Christians, from the Muslims, it's ours. And we're gonna kill everybody and announcing the biblical name for that. This is like this week. And then saying, oh, we're not doing anything wrong when the whole world sees it. Do you think Israel and the Likudics are in a bubble? I mean, do they not know what they're doing?

2:21:51 And it's evil and the public understands it. Not the crazy left kill all the Jew people. We're not talking about the Soros fund of people who I think they funded that to make, to actually bolster it. But we're talking about reasonable people like Trump wanting to fix this and Netanyahu saying no and then waving his moral flag around that he's against Hamas when he's been their sugar daddy until what, three years ago. I'm glad you used the word Balkanization just now because that's exactly what we're seeing happen. And we're seeing it happen in slow motion. You mentioned at the start of this segment, that there's one of the last Christian villages in the West Bank is being wiped out this week. As we speak, there are Israeli settlers from New Jersey and New York and they're forcing Palestinian Christians out of their homes, burning down their olive trees, and they're just taking their land, seizing their land. Well, what we're seeing if you look at a map of the

2:22:49 of the West Bank now is you see these little circles and they dot the map and those are Israeli settlements. That's what Bosnia looks like, right? That's what Republika Srpska looks like in the Balkans. It's these little islands surrounded by the land of another state. And these little statelets don't work. They don't work. Well, like I said, Trump coming out and saying don't look into Epstein is a total stress in effect. A five year old would know that. Israel on TV saying we're taking all the land from the Christians, from the Muslims, it's ours. And we're gonna kill everybody and announcing the biblical name for that. This is like this week. And then saying, oh, we're not doing anything wrong when the whole world sees it. Do you think Israel and the Likudics are in a bubble? I mean, do they not know what they're doing?

2:23:46 I think that they are so confident in continued support from the United States, that they can do anything that they want. They don't really care what, let's say, the French have to say or the Chinese have to say. They care only what the Americans have to say because they need our veto in the United Nations Security Council. And so long as the Americans don't put pressure on them, they'll just continue to push the envelope to see how far they can go. Well, I mean, just the last few years, you'd think October 7th Israel popularity goes up, then they don't just kill the leaders of the groups, they go after the civilians. And now the polls show Israel is basically the most unpopular country in the world. Yeah, and that's not happened before. Every single year Gallup International does a global poll

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2:27:06 You got Bravada, you got arrogance, you got hubris, you got chutzpah. And what Israel is doing and continues to do is very self-destructive. And so our guest, John Kiriakou, very famous CIA whistleblower, former counterterrorism officer, head of counterterrorism in Afghanistan and other countries. I want to soon move into Epstein and other issues and what else is on your radar. But just finishing up, we got caught off by the break. I've seen the polls everywhere. You're mentioning, I think, a Gallup poll. We covered that a while back. For the first time ever,

2:27:46 Israel is seen around the world as the number one threat to world peace. But you were going actually over the numbers. I don't have the poll in front of me, but it seems you do. So just finish up, John. Sorry, that break was a hard break. No, that's okay. Yeah, now the Israelis are seen as the greatest threat to world peace. And here we are all these years later, all these rounds of negotiations later, all these different ideas later. And not only has nothing changed, the situation has become even worse. So I know it's hard to predict things, but in the short term, midterm, long term,

2:28:24 It looks to me like the Israeli control of the White House is getting more intense. I'm seeing major pressure though everywhere and a real awakening to this that was already happening, but now it's supercharged. And it's not how the Israel lobby wants to brand it as pro Hitler or pro radical Islam. That's not working. And then I understand Israel's got nuclear weapons, they're not going anywhere. I don't want them destroyed. I think they have a right to exist. I mean, I literally am not sitting here obsessed with Jews all day. But with these policies and the chutzpah issue, Israel's now seen as the main villain. And they can't just juxtapose it to the unpopular mullahs either. People are more sophisticated. On this trajectory, where do you see this going? I honestly don't see it getting any better. And part of the reason is that this is not at all a partisan issue.

2:29:16 Democrats and Republicans ideas about Israel are almost identical, at least within the mainstream. Of course, there are gonna be these radicals on the far left and on the far right that are gonna have a different position. But there's no pressure from the United States for the Israelis to change their position. And there are no bold desires or propositions for overarching peace agreements. We're not seeing calls for another Oslo round. We're not seeing calls for a grand deal to make all of these issues go away. And in fact, I think that the Saudis would be interested in participating in something like that. Undoubtedly, the Qataris would be interested in participating. The Palestinians would probably beg to participate in something.

2:30:10 But the Israelis know that nobody's gonna force them. And so there's no incentive for them to go to the negotiating table. So what happens in Gaza? And then of course, they're just gonna expand more in the Golan, they're gonna expand in the West Bank. I mean, there is a greater Israel project. That's not a conspiracy theory. They wear it on their army IDF uniforms that they held. They want like to make Israel 10 times bigger. That's insane. Yeah, in fact, they bombed Syria again today. And the Syrians, the Syrian government is just this little radical statelet that's trying to convince everybody that they've left their radicalism behind them. And I hope to God that they have. But the Israelis are free just to come and go and bomb anybody they want. And they do it.

2:30:52 They do it all the time. So what do I expect in Gaza? I expect more of the same. I think that the plan is to turn the whole place to rubble and it's to force Gazans out. You mentioned a few minutes ago that the Israelis had been encouraging Palestinians to move to the move to the United States or move to Egypt or move to Jordan. And when that wasn't forthcoming, they came up with this cockamamie plan to take all the Gaza Palestinians and send them to Albania. And the Albanian said, well, we don't want them, we have our own economic problems. Then they came up with this stupid idea to send them all to an island off the coast of Indonesia. And the Indonesian said, well, we don't know anything about this. No, we're not giving up an island to become Palestine. The truth is,

2:31:37 All of those are forms of genocide, forced removal of a people is a form of genocide. And we have the multi-thousand year old, three thousand year old Moses and the Jews being kicked out of Egypt and then the Jews and the Desporos and Hitler and they're literally doing what was done to them now. Exactly, exactly. It wasn't right then and it's not right now. Wow, and then you know there's all those things a Palestinian those none of one live there I mean, it's just I hate that argument so much. Don't you love Ben Shapiro? You mentioned earlier, but you didn't say his name He and others are like there was only one Israeli spy Jonathan Pollard the former prime minister told me we don't spy on the US but when Ted Cruz got asked about it a few weeks ago by

2:32:20 he said, well, of course they spot us, they're our friends. Of course they do, yeah, of course they do. Of course they do, they always have. It's as simple as that. And if you talk to anybody who has served at the American embassy in Israel, whether when it was still in Tel Aviv or not. I saw you on a podcast, I forget which one, tell that story. Describe out of all the intelligence agencies you've dealt with, I imagine it's dozens. Tell us how many directly, even all the world, Who is the most aggressive and the most deceptive? Yeah, by far the Mossad. There's just hands down, there's just no comparison. I told this story on a podcast where two friends of mine with whom I worked at the CIA were transferred to Israel and they were both known to the Israeli services. They were declared, what's called declared to the Israeli services. So when they arrive in Israel, the station chief takes them to the Mossad and says,

2:33:14 You know my two people here. They're gonna be here for two years. They're not gonna be working against Israel, of course. The wife is gonna work on Palestinian issues at the embassy, and the husband is gonna take Arabic classes at the university. Everybody's happy. But then the ambassador has a welcome party for them, and when they get back home from the welcome party, somebody had rearranged all the furniture in their living room, just as a signal that, hey, we can mess with you anytime we want. And of course, they reported it. Several months later, the ambassador has a Christmas party. They go to the Christmas party and they come back and people had defecated in all of the toilets in their house and left it unflushed. Now why would you do that? Just to intimidate, just to anger and just to show disrespect. Finally, another year and a half passes, it's time for them to leave. The ambassador has a going away party for them. They go to the party, they drive back to Jerusalem.

2:34:14 People had gone into the house, the dog was whimpering under the dining room table. They had cut the dog's tail off and they wrapped it in gauze and in medical tape. Now why would you do something like that? What do you hope to accomplish? just by treating an ally that way. And of course, the CIA has to go to the Israelis and say, stop harassing our people. And the Israelis say, okay, okay, and then they're good for a year or two, and then they just start doing it again. But that's the nature of our relationship. That is not how you make friends and influence people. And I mean, take Steve Pchenik, I know he worked in intelligence a bunch of places, co-authored books with Tom Clancy. But

2:34:55 But you know, he's Jewish by the way. And he said, no, he said there's nothing worse than when he dealt with over the decades, you know, with Israel and all the rest of it. Also, so I tell another story about them coming to the embassy or the CIA meeting with you guys and always giving gifts with open bugs in them, knowing you're going to find it. Like, like, is it just like, they don't want you there? I mean, but this is our loving ally, our best little pal. Yeah. This is something else that we had to deal with. You, you carry on, uh, liaison meetings all the time with visiting intelligence services, literally every single day.

2:35:33 And the Israelis, we had to stop allowing onto the CIA headquarters campus because every time they'd come, they would bring a gift. And every time they brought a gift, it had a listening device installed inside and it was packed with batteries. And we would tell them, you guys have to stop doing this. Every time you come here, you try to bug our conference rooms. So now when we meet with the Israelis, it's off campus. You just can't trust them. And by the way, if I as a US citizen, let's say, ask for a tour, And I got caught at Laney, even in the cafeteria placing a bug, I'd probably get 20 years in prison. Test me, Nosh. Without any question, you would go straight to federal prison, yes. So and if I work for the CIA and I leak something, I'd go to jail. So the point is, is that how, I don't even understand the psychology of that. And not just you telling me this has come out. What is the motive of behaving like this?

2:36:30 I've been told that the motive is the unequivocal desire for survival. that the Israelis understand, sure, we're friends, we're allies, but nobody can save the Israelis but the Israelis at the end of the day. And on the off chance that we're not giving them literally everything we have in terms of defense and intelligence, then by God, they're gonna steal it from us and they're gonna use it to protect themselves. Don't they get being highly aggressive like that is what's turning everybody against them? I don't think they care. Well, let me ask you this. Did you ever see Gratingham, were there other agencies that because you know anybody that really studies history, I'm not an intelligence, but I've studied it's very interesting. You know, the Russians are all just straight up. We love you. We're your friend. You want sex? You want money? The Chinese, same deal.

2:37:21 sex operatives, stuff like that. But instead, the Israelis is just pure muscle, pure in your face, pure blackmail, pure attack. That historically, I would think would be the, I know I've read books about interrogators and had them on people. Usually it's the good cop that gets people to do what they want. So why do they behave like this? Exactly, Alex, I never encountered another intelligence service that didn't understand from deep down didn't understand that it is the light touch that wins a person over. It's the good cop who wins the person over. You can't just punch people in the face over and over and over and over and expect them to do your bidding or to treat you like an equal and a friend.

2:38:10 The Russians would never treat people like this. The Chinese, the Cubans, the British, nobody would- I mean, how do they operate? Because I heard you saying the British were about the best you'd seen. But I mean, describe the British versus the Russians. It's so interesting, or the Chinese. You engage a person in conversation and that conversation you want to eventually lead to friendship. And when the conversation leads to friendship, the friendship is going to lead to something even closer to the point where this person is going to be willing to commit espionage for you or in some cases to commit treason for you just because you are their best

2:38:49 When I first got hired at the CIA, I asked a question in training about the use of honeypots, for example. A honeypot is when you try to entrap someone using sex. And my instructor said, no, no, we haven't done that since the 50s. That just doesn't work. It makes people angry. It doesn't allow you to create a relationship based on trust. And you want the relationship really to be based on trust. Well, the Israelis don't care if you like them or trust them. They're gonna punch you in the face and they're gonna poop in your toilets and they're gonna cut your dog's tail off. And then they're gonna run a guy against you in Congress because you're not pro-Israeli enough. I never understood it.

2:39:37 And so I go back to the Nick Fointest thing, very popular, very articulate. I don't agree with many things he says, but I didn't know his origin story until the other day. I did an interview and I actually watched part of it. And I looked it up, it was true. He was pro-Israel, working at the Daily Wire. And they literally tried to get him to go to Israel, make him do all this pro-Israel stuff. He goes, what's this about Israel? So he starts investigating and finds out basically they're an Israeli front, probably actually Mossad. We know these billionaires out of Texas that are Zionist funded. And then they fire him and persecute him and come after him and then turn him into this big enemy. I mean, it's just crazy. It is crazy. It is crazy because the number of people who are willing to put up with this has to be finite. At some point, people have to stand up and say enough is enough, America first, we're not doing this anymore and we're not gonna let you treat us this way.

2:40:32 I mean, I'm not the toughest guy around. I never started to fight people for no reason, but I've certainly learned even just a regular little skinny guy, watch this car, you go over and knock him on the side of the head, he's probably gonna attack you. I mean, I just don't, it's, and then Israel's like, oh, we're loving, oh, we're friendly, oh, we're all this other stuff. And then everybody I talked to, including Jews that have been in the CIA say, no, Israel's the worst. And it didn't just start yesterday. I mean, it's just bizarre. Yeah, it's not good at all. I don't know how they get anything accomplished internationally. When you pick fights with everybody, including or especially with your closest friends in the world, it just doesn't make any sense.

2:41:10 Is there any good factions in Israel or how can Israel reform itself? Because I really want Israel to succeed and not be the detonator for nuclear war. But there's been this odd political change in Israel and it's being attributed to the influx just over the last 20 or 30 years of thousands and thousands of Jews from the former Soviet Union, but especially Russia and Ukraine. They've pushed the body politics so far to the right that Likud, if you can imagine this, Likud is now seen as one of the moderate factions. The only way to really change this is to change the political system. And I'm gonna tell you what the Greeks did, because this actually has worked. Greece had the same kind of system that Israel did, where there were 35 different political parties. Nobody ever got a majority. And so you had one weak coalition government after the next, like Israel has now. In fact,

2:42:04 The government technically collapsed yesterday in Israel and Netanyahu now leads a minority government. There hasn't been a call for a vote of no confidence, but it's probably coming. So what the Greeks did is they changed the electoral law, saying that you had to have 5% of the vote to get elected to parliament. So there are still minor parties that are represented there. But whoever came in first got an extra 50 seats in parliament. And that way, One single party has the authority to govern. That's the only way they're going to be able to get past this in Israel. Otherwise, they're going to be at the beck and call of these crazy

2:42:46 religious parties, where the leaders of these parties- And as you said, any time a cult is under attack, it tends to get more extreme, more in the bubble. And again, Israel's leadership is its own worst enemy. I'm serious, folks. I literally care about Israel. I mean, and it's got nuclear weapons, so I care about it not getting cornered. So in closing, I could talk to you for hours. Everybody should get your books. Amazing, sir. Thank you. You're very busy. I'm not trying to go back to Israel again, but obviously intelligence agency, I mean, you know, Maxwell, MI6, Russia, Assad buried Mount Olives, military burial. You got, even though he was in Eastern Europe World War II, I mean all of that. And then Trump's bizarre behavior in the last 12 days, flip-flopping, creating mass strides and effects.

2:43:30 What is your view? What are your sources? What in the hell is going on here? And is Israel using the Epstein file that we know the Democrats and Brennan and them had and probably took out by some about them and stuck to a Trump? I've been told that's what it is. You know, it's fake and now Trump is just sick of it, but he's created this Streisand effect. That's a huge subject, but what do you think's going on? Yeah, I think this has been handled very poorly. I really believe that Donald Trump doesn't have anything to hide. He's been very transparent about his one time friendship with Jeffrey Epstein. And I also believe that the FBI probably has destroyed evidence, maybe not in the last couple of weeks. Maybe it happened four years ago or ten years ago or who knows. But when we talk about files, we're not necessarily talking about

2:44:17 paper files in an envelope that says, you know, evidence of pedophilia. We're talking about computer hard drives and discs and videos and DVDs. There has to be something out there. And I think that the American people and the victims of Jeffrey Epstein deserve an answer. You're showing the Maxwell family, including Ghislaine, and Ghislaine Maxwell's father was a well-known Israeli Mossad asset. I've said this before, I'll say it again. I think I feel very strongly about this. I think that Jeffrey Epstein was a was a Mossad access agent. I think that that the support of Jeffrey Epstein as someone who was just a proud and and loyal Jew and not an access agent that we're hearing from the likes of Alan Dershowitz is nonsense.

2:45:12 And I think the only way to put this thing to bed is the president is gonna have to have literally everything released. When Pam Bondi said last week that the videos that they have showed Child pornography and pedophilia, they're disgusting, they're never gonna be released. Yeah, that's great, that's fine. We don't wanna see videos of child pornography. We want child porn, no, we want the perpetrators prosecuted. And how dare them say we want child porn released. Exactly, identify the men on those tapes and prosecute them. That's all we're asking for. So let me ask you this though as an analyst and former counterterrorism head.

2:45:52 Trump's body language, I mean, it was angry, scared at the press conferences. Flipping out saying they manipulated the file, which the total Democrat angle Brennan did have, so that makes sense. But just the handling of it and the behavior, I keep saying this, you couldn't behave worse to act incriminated. And then people thought I was attacking Trump. I was saying, I'm scared. I mean, this is bizarre. I mean, I'm actually shook to my very core here about what is this. I was surprised by his reaction in the cabinet room where he was sitting next to Pam Bondi and the reporter asked Pam Bondi about the Epstein file. And then the president interrupting and saying, you don't have to answer that if you don't want to. Do you want to answer that? And then he says to the reporter, why are you still asking these questions about Epstein? That creep has been dead for years.

2:46:45 Well, it was the president that raised this during the campaign. It was the president who said he was going to get to the bottom of it and was going to release all the information. I mean, five months ago, they had the press conference with the files saying part two is coming. That's right. Just release it. It's as simple as that. Just release it. And him saying to the reporter, we were just talking about dead kids in Texas. You just desecrated them. I mean, it was just desperate. Don't ask questions. Don't ask questions. Well, anybody knows. I was surprised. So looking at that fear, I mean he said, the Democrats had the file. I've talked to sources, that's what it is. They took some of the Jane Doe's that were fake. When they were first targeting Trump, they knew he was gonna run. They started surveilling him. It's been released, 2013. I was part of the same deal. NSA files that got released leaked to us. But the point is that I

2:47:32 I believe Trump, they would have already released it to Bernie before. I've never seen any of the MO that he was involved in that. Plus he's not the type that would go compromise himself even if he wasn't a kid, which he's not. Obviously not in Russia getting pissed on, that's ridiculous too, the same people. So it makes sense then. They're only gonna put in the file what embarrasses him, probably some FBI reports. So then he has to do a special counsel, he has to bring it out and meet it head on instead of acting like he's running scared. And I've never seen Trump run scared like this. I think that's the way to say it. I don't say this to hurt Trump, I have to tell the truth. I'm seeing running scared behavior. And then I ask myself, okay, then what is it?

2:48:09 I wonder if he's been threatened. I wonder if the Democrats have something that maybe they made up out of whole cloth. I mean, my God, we're all afraid of what AI can do these days and deep fakes and all of this kind of thing. So I wonder if he would just rather this go away even at the expense of having guilty people go free or not be prosecuted, just because he doesn't want to have to fight a fight that is going to be made up and almost-. Sure, I mean, it's logical. They didn't want him to use this against them. So they drop a dime on themselves, which we actually put out, and Bo Boyle's great. He said, I got a call from my New York guy. They've got it all. We're gonna get to Bonny tomorrow, and we broke it. But obviously, whenever they leave in New York and then let Trump know they have, and then he gets it and doesn't want any. My God, we're not releasing this. This is a new Russiagate. It's all fake. I think he's told us that. This is a setup, and I actually believe him.

2:49:08 But that argues then for the appointment of a special counsel, because then the special counsel can do the forensic investigation and say the president's right, this is all fake. All right, do five more minutes, we gotta go to break. John, I could have you on for 10 hours, we gotta do commercial free podcast sometimes, those are huge as well. John Kiriakou, johnkiriakou.com. Real fast, you've written so many books, if you recommend one book to people, what is it? I think it's my second book. It's called Doing Time Like a Spy, How the CIA Taught Me to Survive and Thrive in Prison. Which you got for exposing torture. Thank you, Barack Obama. Yes. What a nice person. And is he an Arabist? I'll ask that question when we come back. But first, ladies and gentlemen,

2:49:54 Who is Obama really? John just realized that he's got an interview right now, John Kuriakou, so he's gotta go. But we were just telling sex operative stories, because I'm not an intelligence agency, but I study it all, so they treat me like that. And I was saying, yeah, the Russians are the main ones with sex operatives. Oh, absolutely, they still do that. He was telling me wild stories. You've got to come back on very, very soon. You're an expert on, you know, also privacy issues. You're really concerned about this digital currency they're trying to add in this Genius Act. But John, thank you so much. Thank you so much. Good to see you. I appreciate it. There's a lot of controversy around this network about Alex Jones, for example. Alex Jones, the far-right conspiracy theorist who is apparently... Alex Jones. Russian scum. Until Morris comes to mind.

2:59:31 The USS Liberty had just been attacked by Israeli jets and torpedo boats. The CIA could manipulate the news in the United States. They took the babies out of incubators and left the children to die on the cold floor. It was almost as if it were a plan in motion. It just can't happen. We need to go into the capital! You will always have conspiracy theories. They are nothing but distractions. You guys censored Harvard educated doctors. You silenced those voices. What we want to do in Davos is push the reset button. Soon as we start exposing the Great Reset, the sooner these globalists start going to prison!

3:00:15 As many of you are noticing, I'm not live today on my regular show 11am to 3pm central. I'm re-airing that great interview I did a few days ago, where he did with me with Tim Dillon. The reason I'm not on air is there's been a bunch of developments this morning in the Democrats' ongoing law for Operation Dreaded Shetland Info Wars. As you know, in the last year we've been winning in federal and state court. Texas appeals court even run by Democrats said the case was so bad. They're looking to overturn the judgment the whole fake Rick Sandy hook thing They are so scared. So I've learned a bunch of developments I can't tell you I'll do it the next 48 hours But the big thing I can tell you is this all happened today Doug Imhoff the husband of Kamala Harris Himself has officially taken over their lawfare operations against me. So that's where we are right now that's what I'm dealing with and

3:01:15 That's what I'm trying to explain to all you guys is that I was first targeted by the Crossfire Hurricane operation before they called it Crossfire Hurricane in 2013. And I released those NSA documents we got from federal whistleblowers via Judge Arpaio. It was called Judge Arpaio, Sheriff Arpaio in 2017. And now this is officially part of the big criminal investigation that the task force in the Justice Department is going after. The treasonous conspiracy task force. And you've got Ed Martin with his government weaponization task force and obviously I've been working with those folks, I'll just stop there. So I may not even be able to be on the air some of the next few days because I've probably, I've been asked to go to DC right now. Again, I've been on the phone with all these people, White House, the DOJ today.

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3:05:58 at James O'Keefe on xokeefemediagroup.com. So many big stories you've just broken again, more you're about to break. But obviously, I wasn't really critical of you, but I was like, really, this is Bondi covering up? And she's like, oh yeah, kids getting raped, hundreds of new victims, undercover video. To get ahead of it, when she learned you'd had that, she came out in a press conference and kind of did it as an aside. And I'm not trying to say she's a villain, but then when this broke last Monday, people said, oh, it's Bondi. And I said, no, it's Trump, who we love and need to succeed. And now I'm beginning to understand they put poison pills in the trial stuff with Ghislaine Maxwell and the second case there in New York with Epstein, all sorts of little BS things. And so obviously they're trying to set Trump up in my opinion. I don't believe there's any evidence of that there, but I haven't talked to you other than a few text messages. I don't know your overall view. I know a few months ago you broke the exclusive stuff inside Epstein Island. You probably know more about this and the cover up from whistleblowers than any journalist. So James O'Keefe, thank you for coming. What brings you to Austin?

3:06:52 I'm doing a tour for this new TV show we have on unified.tv about Disney, about the CIA. So I'm promoting that series. But with Epstein, yeah, that Bondi video we did a few months ago is, it seems to be a bigger deal now than I thought it was. And she was in the restaurant saying there's tens of thousands of video with children. We reached out to the Bondi, to the Attorney General's office. They wanted to know exactly what she said. We provided that quote to her and then she went on the White House lawn and said that. There's tens of thousands of videos. So This has been a developing story and- Well, I thought you were getting out of your skis, which I'm- I wasn't even critical. I just was- I was just questioning you. I think you were a visionary again, unfortunately. I was at the Turning Point conference last weekend and it struck me. I said, how many by show of hands think the Department of Justice is lying? And almost every hand went up.

3:07:43 So-. And I saw Laura Ingraham do similar things. People are pissed. People are pissed. I've never seen anything quite like it. And the Department of Justice has the power to unredact certain parts of the affidavit. Alex, in my FBI raid, they redacted every sentence of the probable cause. So they have the power to unredact certain things. And I believe the truth will come out. If the Department of Justice doesn't put it out, then whistleblowers will come forward and put it out themselves. Well, now we have Anna Paulina Linder, the congresswoman, saying she has FBI coming to her saying that evidence was destroyed and that it was the Democrats. Is that right? I didn't see that today. That just broke last night. Oh, wow. So we have the Epstein stuff to talk about, we have the Disney stuff, we have Johnson & Johnson we just broke just a few days ago. Another pharmaceutical executive, lead regulatory scientist at Johnson & Johnson saying the vaccine is not safe or effective. My job is to confirm suspicions, Alex, perhaps not to surprise people but to prove things visually for people. Well, I know you don't like to speculate. You've liked Trump, he's really supported you. We'll get into the Johnson & Johnson, the first look at the Disney Expo, say and more. Great to have you here.

3:08:46 First off, just not speculation, but just with the gestalt of info you have and all your sources. Why would Trump do such a horrible Streisand effect and say don't look at this, that was never anything, and do a 180? What a PR disaster, now they've figured it out. And what Roger Stone recommended last week, they've done. And I know he told the President over and over again as I talked to him about it, hey, you gotta release the stuff out of Ghislaine's trial. They fired Comey's daughter that ran it, and get all this out. Regardless of what Trump now says that the same crew, Brennan, Cummings, and all of the heck of it, all the files, spiked it. I think that makes sense, that's what they do. But how do you think Trump is normally savvy, just engaged in something that was like dumping blood in the water for sharks? I don't know the answer to that. I don't like to speculate. I don't have any first hand information. The question I have is, why would they, and the FBI agent, the FBI agents,

3:09:40 We released a recording a week ago, Alex, where an FBI senior intelligence agent with the FBI is saying that this is a quote, shit show. And the FBI agents on audio recording saying they need to handle this better and they haven't been fully transparent. So the question I have is, why is the Attorney General of the United States and this director in the FBI saying all these things to strangers in restaurants? They need to be transparent immediately with us. And why are they 180ing sometimes in the same day? There's no good answer to that question. So this is not a good situation regardless of the outcome It hasn't been handled well, but I believe the truth will come out and obviously when you brought this out months ago I highly criticized you you had rumblings or why were you you were cryptic on the phone? But you said looks like they're scared because the Prince Andrew stuff This was a guy that was very close to Prince Andrew saying he's you know

3:10:31 raping underage girls and it was on video. And my undercover reporter was scared. And she was rightfully scared and I was scared. Sometimes- Yeah, the MI6 will kill you over that stuff. It's just a little bit scary. And I think what we have to remember is- Well, it's not a little bit. Your organization has balls bigger than elephants. And she went on Piers Morgan and Piers Morgan was, excuse me, the guy that worked for Prince Andrew went on Piers Morgan and Piers Morgan was growing them. I mean, what are you guys doing? Why aren't you being honest? And the guy said, I gotta give credit to O'Keefe's people, the undercover people that got this. He did not deny it, Alex. So it sometimes can be terrifying. I went dark for two weeks, I didn't tweet.

3:11:06 Because sometimes it's-. I'm just gonna start a conversation. You weren't saying even the Epstein was the biggest. When I thought back, you're like, it's the Prince Andrew. And I was, and some people thought what O'Keefe says, this is the most dangerous. No, you were saying that was because this is the king and the princess fixer saying, yeah, he lied. He raped a bunch of underage girls. And that is, people said, we already knew that. We need to have the smoking gun proof. You gotta have the proof. I mean, you have to remember your audience knows all this stuff, but a lot of people don't know it. The American newbies, the American people are not in agreement upon the fact. So it's important for me to confirm suspicions. I mean, anybody that doesn't know they've killed a lot of people to cover for the Royals that. Yeah, my undercover reporter was was pretty scared rightfully so. So I have to protect her and some this is heavy, dark stuff. So we had a source come.

3:11:55 to us from within the government and had images from inside Epstein's chalkboard. We're trying to decipher what this means. And this is information the FBI has. So- Well, they cleaned out a lot more than that too. They did. And we got inside the temple. We saw the celestial painting, some of the Gothic statues, some of the demonic books on the bookshelf there. We published all those images. And I think it's up to us, the people, my call to action, people watching here is we have to do this ourselves. We cannot- Talk about the demonic, sorry I'm interrupting, demonic books. They had like some Satan books and some very strange pagan statues in the library and a chalkboard that said power deception money. This was inside his library on the island. Images that we've never seen before.

3:12:40 his library, horns on statues, and a baby sucking on a phallic instrument in a kitchen. It was really sick stuff. By the way, absolutely, and they use fake right wing whisper campaigns like they do now to attack you like it was nothing. I've been getting the same thing. I think- Cuz they know they can't attack you from the left now, it's the attack. That's true. You get that too? Yeah. I mean, I think people do, even in the MAGA movement, Alex, sometimes people Conjure up they imagine what this could be and it never rises to their expectation But what I what I believe is that oh, yeah, so people that actually do things or the trailblazers with the best record It's not good enough the people that sit in there in their basement. They've got all the answers people need to take action But I believe I mean that for them to say that no, but there's no evidence that anybody did anything wrong

3:13:25 I mean, we got-. Well, that was the, I mean, we've got Ben Shapiro saying this looks like Epstein never even jaywalked. He's innocent. We released photos in his bedroom. There's a telephone at the end. This is images that we released and there's names on those speed dials. You're trying to tell me that none of those people were an accessory before the fact, accessory after the fact. Of course, there's a story there. Of course, there's that. But the Department of Justice can unredact the affidavit just like in my case. I was raided. They redacted every word. They need to unredact Most of that affidavit, we don't wanna see child porn or anything like that. We just wanna see- Yeah, that was the most insulting, the talking point. You want child porn. No, we never said release that. We said indict the perpetrators. That's right. So, but my call to action is if you're in the FBI,

3:14:09 If you're in any foreign intelligence community, if you're in the CIA and you have information, we need you to come forward. And I can't guarantee you that that'll be easy for you physically, but spiritually it's the right thing to do. Do it for your conscience, do it for your country. We can no longer rely upon the government. To be honest with the government self preserving Alex, they wanna protect that. Let me be less abstract. There are confidential FBI informants at my organization, Project Veritas. And there's redactions and under those redactions are the names of those informants, but the public's right to know. Okay, there you go, look at this. Look at this, I always bring this up every week now, it shocks people. Every single word of the probable cause, that's the justification, to raid my newsroom has been redacted. Well, when I got a part of my FBI file from Trump from an older foyer earlier this year, it's almost all blacked out, but it's national security by Obama ongoing. And it's just crazy

3:15:04 Kovtke being accused of something, a dragnet for 10 years, found nothing, and they won't even tell you the specifics. That's right. And I'm going to have to sue the Department of Justice to get And I don't wanna do that. But the public's right to know why they're doing this supersedes their right to protect their FBI confidential informants. That's the bottom line. Pam Bondi put out the statement yesterday saying they're gonna unredact some of this. Alex, what did you think of that? She put in that statement out. I mean, they tried to just end it, but they know it's become a fiasco, the worst thing they could have done. And now they're gonna supposedly go to these courts and get them to release it. And I think the government, according to lawyers who talked to you, has the power to do that.

3:15:41 So absolutely, I mean, I'm glad that they are now coming to their senses. I mean, to watch Trump self harm like this has been very painful and I had to tell the truth, I had to criticize it. And then I've had some of the listeners, not the majority, get really mad at me. And I'm like, I'm sorry, I'll go where the truth is. I can't-. It was very hard for me to do that story on Pam Bonnie. It's not I dislike her or like her, that's not the issue. It's just you gotta tell the truth. And it was a hard one to do, but at the end of the day, I believe-. Well, you asked me on the phone, you said, do you think I should do it? And I said, yeah, and he goes, yeah, that's what I'm gonna do. That's what I mean. What would I be if I didn't publish that? What would I be if I held- You'd almost be an accomplice to whatever it is. Right. So it's a tough situation that the administration has put people in. But listen, bottom line is let me be optimistic. The truth is going to come out. People are going to come forward. I have faith that things are going to, we're going to see the truth here.

3:15:04 Kovtke being accused of something, a dragnet for 10 years, found nothing, and they won't even tell you the specifics. That's right. And I'm going to have to sue the Department of Justice to get And I don't wanna do that. But the public's right to know why they're doing this supersedes their right to protect their FBI confidential informants. That's the bottom line. Pam Bondi put out the statement yesterday saying they're gonna unredact some of this. Alex, what did you think of that? She put in that statement out. I mean, they tried to just end it, but they know it's become a fiasco, the worst thing they could have done. And now they're gonna supposedly go to these courts and get them to release it. And I think the government, according to lawyers who talked to you, has the power to do that.

3:15:41 So absolutely, I mean, I'm glad that they are now coming to their senses. I mean, to watch Trump self harm like this has been very painful and I had to tell the truth, I had to criticize it. And then I've had some of the listeners, not the majority, get really mad at me. And I'm like, I'm sorry, I'll go where the truth is. I can't-. It was very hard for me to do that story on Pam Bonnie. It's not I dislike her or like her, that's not the issue. It's just you gotta tell the truth. And it was a hard one to do, but at the end of the day, I believe-. Well, you asked me on the phone, you said, do you think I should do it? And I said, yeah, and he goes, yeah, that's what I'm gonna do. That's what I mean. What would I be if I didn't publish that? What would I be if I held- You'd almost be an accomplice to whatever it is. Right. So it's a tough situation that the administration has put people in. But listen, bottom line is let me be optimistic. The truth is going to come out. People are going to come forward. I have faith that things are going to, we're going to see the truth here.

3:16:29 All right, let's start shifting gears into Johnson and Johnson. We'll play a clip of it. They're like, hey, this is two days old, 50,000 years old. No, this is more pertinent than ever. It continues to add to the repertoire of you just destroying their own words. The Pfizer and J&J and all of them catching, remember the head of mRNA, finally got a machete on Veritas. saying, yeah, we make new viruses and have them on the shelf. And we're gonna, I mean, it's just incredible criminal stuff you've exposed. Tell us about this latest coup. This is a Johnson and Johnson lead regulatory scientist who is on video. This is in New Jersey. This is recently saying that the vaccine is not safe

3:17:07 and not effective, that we give it to them. There he is. We give it to them because they want it. He's chewing on ice cream with no introspection. And he's saying that there's no safety, there's no effectiveness, but the people, the consumers wanted it, so we gave it to them. We didn't do the necessary trials. People are going to die anyway. This guy is not a low level guy. He's the lead regulatory scientist. He's responsible for making sure the product- He sounds like a completely soulless NPC. He does seem that way. And when I confronted him, it was shocking psychologically because he denied his own identity. He said, that's not me on the camera. These people reject the mirror. They deny reality. And it is very, I like that word. It is very soulless. There's no self-awareness here.

3:17:51 But I love, they won anyways, well maybe some fools, but no, they fired hundreds of thousands of nurses, doctors just here, kicked tens of thousands out of the military. No, they violated the Nuremberg Code, they coerced people into this. Yeah, and it's something that we all know to be true, but it's- proven so HHS put out a statement Bobby Kennedy was in touch with me about this and but This is comes on the heels of the story. We've done Pfizer a few years ago with Jordan Walker said there's mute They're mutating the vaccine. They know it's not effective. They know it was started in a Wuhan lab in China These are his words. That's gain of function by the way. Gain of function. We're mutating viruses, we have new versions. But he said we're gonna call it something else. That's not what we call it. He was, well yeah, it's gain of function, but we don't call it that. We don't call it that. It's very much out of 1984 to deny the objective reality and change the wording. So these are pharmaceutical executives who are gonna tell the stories. And this guy actually at Johnson & Johnson asked me to turn the cameras off. And I said, I'm not gonna do that.

3:18:47 Because the last time I did that, last time we busted a big story, a week later I was removed from Project Veritas. And that's another topic. Of course you don't turn the cameras off because then they'll lie. Exactly. Let's roll a little bit from the new report. You found O'Keefe Media Group with another one of these people here. The lack of research that was done on those products. But like he didn't know. There's no proof. I mean none of that stuff was safe and effective. People wanted it. I'm sure somebody's gonna get sued for that stuff eventually.

3:19:47 Deep inside Johnson & Johnson's global machine is a scientist, a lead scientist, whose very approval or disapproval of J&J products can change millions of American lives. Meet Joshua Rees, a lead regulatory scientist at Johnson & Johnson. Joshua, in his role, leads the creation and execution of regulatory strategies for new and existing products across Johnson & Johnson. We run the whole world. Now, according to a Johnson & Johnson press release from December 2021, the safety and well-being of those who use the Johnson & Johnson vaccine continues to be our number one priority.

3:20:37 Now for the first time ever, an official from Johnson & Johnson admits to our hidden cameras that the Johnson & Johnson COVID vaccine was, quote, not safe and effective, unquote. And the company wanted to, quote, just throw the vaccine creation to the wind and see what happens, unquote. You know, they're like, don't buy it in the sense that it's safe and effective. But like he didn't know. There's no proof. I mean, none of that stuff was safe and effective. We didn't do the typical test. The typical process, that's why it takes so long to get a product on market. Typical process means all this clinical trial testing and stuff in a small population. This was just, let's test it on some lab rats.

3:21:22 and see if it works and stuff like that and just throw it to the wind and see what happens. People didn't know that when the patient was doing it. That's what I'm saying. I'm sure somebody's going to get sued for that stuff eventually. The lead regulatory scientist for Johnson & Johnson went into detail about how the federal government applied heavy pressure on big pharma in order to hastily create the Johnson & Johnson COVID vaccine, encouraging speed over efficacy or safety. Do you have any idea? the lack of research that was done on those products. You shouldn't be surprised that this happened. It was pretty much the government kind of made a deal with pharmaceutical companies. Stop there, but really they'd already made it on the shelf beforehand. This guy just doesn't know that. This is beyond a bombshell to have another executive admitting everything you've caught him in again and again. Premeditated mass fraud, Nuremberg Code violation. These people need to be arrested. Unbelievable.

3:22:18 James, we're going to break, we're gonna come back. What do you wanna hit next? What happened at Veritas, now that's out in court. Do you wanna talk about it? You wanna get into this new- I wanna hit on the Unified series, the CIA agent that we caught, as well as the Disney executives. Oh yeah, your Unified series, tell us about that. Yeah, well after the break, well we have a series, two episodes so far, a CIA agent on video withholding information from Donald Trump and two Disney executives talking about discriminating they've been fired from Disney, so we take you behind the scenes. And you've got your co-host here, another news anchor here, Elizabeth Lane. We now know Wonder Woman's real name, or an alias. That's right, Unified TV. Two episodes brand new out we want to talk about. Alright, and so we've got Wonder Woman here with us as well.

3:25:57 I So the crew just reminded me that James O'Keefe has not tried methylene blue or they asked me to ask him. He has it, doesn't know what it is, but he's so nice and trusting he just took it. It's actually cyanide, James. No, no, seriously. Trying to poison me. Usually, I'm joking, it's really good for you. It takes 30 minutes to hit. It's not a stimulant, but it creates mitochondrial function and skips the oxidative process two levels or three levels in the cells. Usually takes 30 minutes to hit. You're on Owen at four. Just please, Owen, talk to Owen. Ask if it hit you, what you felt. And if you didn't, we're going to put it on air and you'll be the only guest that has it.

3:26:37 So slam the rest of your medicine. You got it. As you're asking, what does it mean? Lewis? It is a some RFK or RFK junior pushes. It's something I'm not about for years, but we've got the best and it is amazing. What does your body? All right. I look forward to that. Sometimes it's a 15 minutes. You got to let us know what you feel. Wait, I've been drinking it for about 10 minutes. So we'll see. You just started drinking about two minutes ago. I finished the rest of it. All right. Jones is the thing that takes me out. That would be ironic. James, I just hit you with 100 milligrams of cyanide. You should be dead in about two seconds. That would be ironic. No, it's a joke, ladies and gentlemen. It's very, very good. We had Roseanne Barr in here about three months ago when she was so tired she wasn't sure she could do the show. I love Roseanne. And what she's been through with, speaking of Disney, ABC News, her and I relate because I was fired from my company, she was fired from ABC News. So I really enjoy her. She's great. Well, she took it and just loves it now.

3:27:30 We'll see what happens on Owen. And if it doesn't affect you, we'll still put it out for people to know. Because about one out of 100 don't really feel it. But the medical stuff it does is great for your body, really cleans out your- What does it do? Cleans out your cells. What are you supposed to feel like? I'm not gonna tell you. Okay. I mean, just, you'll see. All right. Because I want this to be really fresh. And I'm glad the crew reminded me to do this. But shifting gears back to the stuff on the agenda, you'll cover a lot more today at four o'clock on The War Room with Owen Schroeder. Really appreciate you coming to town for that. But you're also on a tour. Tell us about this American series you've got. Yeah, we got a series called American Swiper, a tag on American sniper and you've seen the videos online Alex every week we do these undercover datings but this is a behind the scenes series. There's two episodes out ones on the CIA guy and he's the guy withheld information from Trump. It's insane video. That's Amjad Vazisir looking at that guy that was last year. And this guy was a CIA official who is

3:28:26 telling us that they didn't give Donald Trump information because they didn't trust Donald Trump with the, it's against the law. And this series takes you behind the scenes. He was suspicious of our undercover person and she had to sneak into the bathroom. So it gives you some more information. And we have a new one out today about Disney. And these are two vice presidents at Disney Corporation and they're talking about we don't hire white people, we discriminate on race. Bob Iger, these are their words. Well, that's incredible. So I want to start with the American swiper and this Disney thing is wow, that is bombshell. So let's take your time on that. So let's play the trailer for American Swiper from the O'Keefe Media Group. Here it is.

3:29:08 Disney, META, the IRS, MSNBC, the NFL, Department of Defense, we've done it all. Some people describe this as a honeypot. The man thinks he's meeting with a woman that's interested in him. They really like it when someone expresses interest in them. They want to feel needed or admired. They want their ego fulfilled. There's no list that swipers are given. This is all just through sheer luck and timing. Swipers will come to me and ask me for advice or approval on a certain subject that they're interested in. We don't care about the personal stuff. We care about the subject of investigation, which is who do they work for and what do they do.

3:29:50 Well, incredible. So unpack this. So this is the first episode trailer you're looking at. We have a second trailer for Disney. I don't know if... Sure, no, we've got that. We'll get to that. This is a CIA agent and we're taking you, we're actually interviewing the undercover woman who recorded him. At one point in the meeting, Alex, the CIA agent, he takes out his lanyard and he says, I work for the Chinese Mission Center. I'm withholding information from Trump because we don't trust Donald Trump. That's a crime, by the way. And then he gets suspicious of the undercover. So the undercover has to go into the bathroom, take out all the stuff from her bag, return to the table. He goes to the bag, is satisfied, and continues to divulge more information. This is like a real life, kinda James Bond style TV series. It's not fiction. And I love how these so-called spies are like the biggest big mouse ever. Yeah, and it's kind of, he's lucky that I'm not a Chinese spy. I'm just a journalist.

3:30:42 Can you imagine? How do we know he's not? Well, that's a good point. And this is, there's been a lot of this in my life where people in the Pentagon, people in the State Department are spilling the secrets to me. And sometimes I'm the one sitting across. I mean, this is insane. I mean, I should send Alex Jones to DC in a disguise and see how many of these deep state guys actually recognize him. Well, that's another thing. They're supposedly the spies. spies, they don't even know who some of the top media figures are. I think they're just in a psychosis. There's no self-awareness. They're, I know narcissism is an overused term, but they're in their own little weird, and they're often confessing to us, Alex, these secrets.

3:31:20 Because they're in their own reality to some of your latest stuff. They're like, yeah, we're preparing a coup at the Pentagon against Trump. And they're doing that you're just in a bar and turns out it was true. It's like, and I'll never be as planning a coup against the president. You might want to do it. See really the guy's Alex, the F for FBI agent and he's the Pentagon is that we're meeting in the tank. We're talking to retired generals about trying to hurt you stop Trump is what he's implying there. And this guy was fired. And now he's suing me. So they're trying to use the courts like-. A few years before that, he got caught in a sex thing. That's true. But they never seem to stop the bad behavior. They just want to shut us down. But this series, unified.tv it's called. I'm partnering with them and it's-. Is that how you catch most of them is they're all on Tinder and Grindr?

3:32:06 Most of them, yeah. And there's more gay guys than you'd imagine in DC for some reason. That's a thing. But we catch them on Bumble, Tinder, Grindr. So this series, it's kind of like Netflix for what we're doing. And we take you behind the scenes and it's pretty incredibly produced. You're gonna enjoy it. Where do folks find it? It's unified.tv, U-N-I-F-Y-D dot tv. partnering with OMG O'Keefe Media Group. There you have it, there's two episodes and we've got the Disney one as well. And you and Ms. Lane are out touring the country. Right, touring Texas actually. And man, last night we drove from Dallas to Austin, got a flat tire. Man, you've got some crazy interstates here. Oh yeah, let's B-roll it, let's roll the clip. This is O'Keefe changing a tire. Roll it with audio, here we go. This is me changing a tire last night

3:32:54 on the side of the road. You and Wonder Woman out there. I can't believe she got me like this recording the tire. It's a loud interstates, loud. Like you can't even make a phone call. You can't hear yourself talk on the Texas freeways. Anyways, it was nice. Doing manly things. I was about to say though. That's kind of sexist. You didn't make miss Lane do it No comment Secretly record me there. We didn't miss Lane on the air with us week the ratings would go. I don't know if she's willing Yeah, we had to change a tire on the way, you know the one of the things I don't mean to get on a tangent But there are a lot of like spiritual attacks I don't know if you find that with your work you just weird like people say or you cursed just crazy stuff has that happened to you just weird

3:33:41 crazy, and we try to be positive, but man, just the constant attacks, especially if you're doing good work, you're pursuing the truth. I have had a few attacks, yes. Well, I know in that sense, but just like you ever find that a lot of bad things happen more so when you're really on the trail of the truth? Yeah, absolutely. But also, I've been on there 31 years, you've been how long, 15, 20? I've been doing this since I was 19, 21 years. I would say... The first 10 or 15, I didn't have that much opposition. Some, and that's when I had like literal, like the devil stuff, like people coming out of the woodwork. But that wasn't a big opposition. But as soon as I got, which you've had big opposition too. As soon as it went next level, like the last 10 years, the worse the persecution gets from the top, now it's all this really crazy good stuff happens. So I kind of went through the storm. So maybe, I don't know how God, God's very mysterious. But yeah, and I still get some of the, but you know what? I have such, and I'm not saying you don't have faith, you have total, I can see it.

3:34:42 I just have totally surrendered to God, whatever God's plan is. I mean, I could walk outside and somebody says, die, I wouldn't blame God. Anything happens, I'm like Job at this point. Anything happens, I signed up for this, and God's in control, it's part of the plan. And I think, I would just pray if I was you and just say, I total surrender, I accept everything, I give it to you, I trust you, and I need a hedge of protection in the name of Jesus Christ, please send your angels and the Holy Spirit to protect me, I ask for that. That's right. You got to let go and it's a lot of responsibility. Another thing is praying publicly. God also... Which is what you just did, which is very inspirational. Christ also said pray in private but also get together with the brethren and say it together is what you say on earth instead of in heaven. He says don't pray like Pharisees in public to look good, but sometimes you have to proclaim it. And I know you're a Christian and everything, but I mean have you publicly ever prayed to ask for God's help? I don't think publicly, but I sure have. Ask the listeners.

3:35:35 for them to pray for you, and that's, now it's your important question, I thought about it but not publicly, talk about it. When I started asking people to pray for me about 15 years ago, because it's kind of embarrassing and a little to ask for help, but it's not, ask people to pray for you. Well, listeners, pray for my team, pray for the OMG team, for strength, for discernment, help us find good lawyers who actually give a damn. But look over us and deliver us from evil. And my favorite scripture is, as I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I shall fear no evil for thou art with me. So fear no evil is something I always say. And- No, no, no, it's not.

3:36:20 But here's what I used to do. I believed in God and I know God's real, but I was in the driver's seat. You have to surrender, in my advice, and you have to say, I can't do it, God, it's yours, and then you gotta ask the public to pray for you. It's okay to do that. Please do pray for us. We can't do it by our own power. And your prayers mean a lot to us. It means a lot to my team. Pray for our team. It takes a team. And I appreciate that very much, Alex, that you're bringing that up. Thank you. Well, that's my advice. You know, I've prayed with Tucker. Is that right? And help in publicly or privately? Well, you know, just because I know you're on the tour in Texas. Yeah. And other stuff before that. I mean, I just explained, you know, he talked about some of these, I mean, he, he knew God, he kind of thought God was really wasn't sure until he had some of those big issues. And then I'm few years ago up in Maine. I, I talked to him about things and I, I said, let me guess, did you,

3:37:13 And I just knew it was the Holy Spirit telling me what had happened. He goes, no one knows this side of my wife. How did you know this? And I had people trick him into a deal, an Alistair Crowley deal, a very famous person. They weren't even clear what it was. And they put literal demons on him. And I picked that up and said, God wants you to know this right now, this happens. Somebody laid hands on you, that's what did it. That wasn't me though, it's the Holy Spirit. Wow. The thing I'm thinking about is when I was fired from Project Veritas, the thing I created, I felt the demons coming at me. I almost felt like they were penetrating me at some point. And that was a tough spiritual moment. But you've never shared this. No, not publicly. No, the week I was fired, I was in bed and the demons were like kind of trying to penetrate my body. You know, Tucker got literally scratched up on his back. I heard him say that.

3:38:03 Yeah, I wouldn't say that's what I felt, but I just felt like they were trying to penetrate me and I was kind of ward them off. Well, you know what happens, the left are all into Alice O'Crowley and Satanism. And I'm not trying to be radical. They were probably in a ceremonial deal cutting babies' heads off and sending that stuff a year. That's what they do. They kill children in the ritual and then send demonic attacks on you. I wouldn't be surprised. I'm not kidding. You think I'm joking around? No, I just want the proof. I mean, I don't think you're kidding. And it's true that probably they've tried to cast curses on us, but we proclaim in the name of Jesus and we're going to push that away. James, all I'm saying is

3:38:42 You're a man and you're a tough guy and I know subconsciously it's James O'Keefe can handle it. I was the same way. You've got, and I know you know this, I'm saying you have to literally say, I surrender Christ. That's right. I need you now. I surrender Christ. I need you now. Amen. That's beautiful. Let's get into the Disney thing. Speaking of evil, tell us about this. As our second episode, I don't know if your producers have the trailer. The trailer's great and it'll give you a little glimpse into- Yeah, let's play the Disney DEI trailer and then Disney DEI main trailer back to back. But tell us about it first. And I'll tell you what it is. This is a vice president of Disney, Giordano is his name, and we caught him in Los Angeles. They're talking about the greed and the possible illegal behavior inside of Disney Corporation, very powerful company. Disney controls pretty much everything in California. And then I confront him.

3:39:31 And there's two undercover reporters involved. And we also caught another man inside Disney talking about how they don't hire white people. And there's some racial bigotry inside of there. These are his words, unless you're Jewish and so forth, then you're not gonna get a job if you're white. So it's, and these guys have been fired. And Alex, they tried to sue me. So they always use the course to try to shut me down. So this takes you behind the scenes. Let's take a look at this trailer. Come on, let's do it. It all started when Starlight, that's the code word for one of our undercover journalists and American swipers, matched on the dating app Hinge and went on a hidden camera date with yet another Disney executive. We were the first people ever to get Disney employees to admit that they discriminate against people based on race. They wanted somebody in meetings.

3:40:22 who would appear a certain way. Do you think Bob Iger is corrupt? No, yeah. No way we're hiring White Helmets. I knew this story was gonna be big. We've investigated a lot of subjects at OMG, CIA, the FBI. For the first time ever, something very special happened. Michael Giordano matched with and was actively hitting on yet another one of our swipers. So now, Michael Giordano is now dating not one, but two of our American swipers. Hey, this guy's two-timing me. This guy's on fire. I will put you on tape. I'm not looking to bring on any more clients who are... We've never seen undercover footage like this before. He just had no idea what was coming. Figured, why not make this a double date? Hi. Is this you right here?

3:41:27 The higher-ups wanted that person in that role to be black because it would look good for them in board meetings, but that ultimately they passed on this particular candidate because he just didn't seem, quote, black enough. moment. So you don't like black, like it's like it's just crazy to hear somebody like that in such a high position at one of the largest companies in the entire world say that they passed up on a diverse candidate because he didn't appear black enough. In the moment, I just was like, okay, I'm hitting on a celebrity.

3:42:30 a sore spot. I struck a nerve with him. This is clearly resonating. It's really actually getting to the root of why this is happening. Okay, so he works at Disney. This is his expertise. He's seeing this every day in and out. And so I'm really just a listening ear for him to discuss his woes, to discuss his experience. And... He even details that it was actually quite frustrating for him, but that, you know, this is just the game that you kind of have to play. This is how Disney works and this is what they're promoting. And, you know, it's a good thing because, you know, from his perspective, he's saying, it's a good thing because obviously, you know, diversity pleases people and we have shareholders. And I say, okay, so is it a financial incentive then? I think for certainly a belief that it's just

3:43:17 good for society and the right thing to do. But there's also a belief that like we're gonna make more money if we appeal to a wider variety of people, and that's a good thing. We have shareholders too, you know. And so diversity helps. Wow. You guys just put out so much material. It's all so incredibly important. And this all comes out of the UN, BlackRock, the ESGs. We know a lot of documents and videos have come out that you've released yourself. Part of it, where these company heads say, well, we're still doing DEI at the university, so we're just changing the name. This is important work. We haven't won the war against this yet, folks. No, and Disney is incredibly powerful. In fact, when I did this story about Giordano, the vice president there, I had people in Los Angeles, Alex, tell me, don't go after Disney. You're making a movie, O'Keefe. It's called Line in the Sand. It was about the border. I did it with Tucker.

3:44:08 And I was trying to find the distributor and they said, don't go after Disney, they're too powerful. So there's also an effect where people are not allowed to tell the truth because they're afraid of being retaliated against in their career and their profession. So this Disney, I didn't realize how many tentacles they had, but this is an incredible. Behind the scenes journey and you're gonna see how we make the sausage. You're gonna see How these people operate, you know, do you see that guy's eyes by the way? Giordano's I bulging out of his head. They all look the same demonic So I want to hit a little bit on Veritas. You're gonna have a whole hour though And so what you get more into that then I wish we had more time And I wish I'd have to go to a podcast right now. It's a little bit hang out with you the next hour before you go on with Owen but

3:44:48 You're constantly getting sued, you're constantly getting attacked. People just think, that's O'Keefe, he's tough, he can handle it. Us too, no, that's why supporting you and supporting us, we do this for the public and for ourselves, but we're your champions. And because we're OGs and have done so much, people just think, well, they're supermen. No, we're not. You're over here asking for prayers under such attack. How do people support O'Keefe Media Group? I mean, you can go to our website, okeefemediagroup.com. We have a nonprofit, we're half tax deductible. You could subscribe now, we're a subscription model for OMG. And we hope to make investigative journalism profitable and sustainable. No one's really ever done that before. Alex, you're one of those guys that the more effective you are, the more successful you are at what you do, the worse it's gonna be personally for you. It's like when you actually accomplish your mission and expose these guys and bust them and get the change,

3:45:36 They come after you. Well, that's because we're actually gladiators in the arena hacking and stabbing. Other people go, we're not going that far. We don't actually want to get in the arena. And then I love that everybody wants to then comment about us, and pickly, and act like, oh, they haven't really done that much. Oh, they're not for real. No, we just got wounds and stab wounds and bleeding. Yeah, the man in the arena. But I think people have to recognize the more you actually accomplish the mission, I think people don't want to be too effective. Just be a little effective. Don't really give them a black eye. Yeah, because we make it safe for all the other half-asses. Well, people, but that's inspiring. People inspire people because they live vicariously through you. They can't do what you do. A lot of people just...

3:46:12 live. I'm not about there are a lot of the great patriots on the air and journalists, but I'm just saying the people out there that sit on the bench are halfway and then criticize. They do it because they're basically living vicariously through us because we're the main targets. But if we were taken down, they move on to them next. And when, as my mentor Andrew used to say, went by walking towards the fire, you send a message to other people that they can do it to the main, the main call to action. I want to get to the Veritas thing in a moment, but If you're inside the government, if you're inside the FBI, if you're inside any foreign intelligence agency, whatever it is, Mossad, I don't care what it is, but the CIA, I can't promise you. Previously I said I can help you, I can pay your bills, I've done all that.

3:46:51 I can't promise you they're gonna be physically or in a bodily superficial sense okay. But I can tell you it's incredibly spiritually rewarding. Do it for your conscience, do it for your country. The time is right now. Oh the greater danger is not standing up to the globalist, it has to be done. We're almost out of time, you're gonna be on the second hour though at 4 p.m. central but here's a clip from The Truth About Veritas, here it is. It was an emotional time seeing his, his B, get ripped from him. And it wasn't right. You never went through what I went through. You didn't endure all the things I had to endure. It's the FBI raiding you out there. You weren't sleeping on a couch trying to raise a hundred bucks here, a thousand bucks here. I'm invoking the Constitution here. Every defendant has the right to a fair trial.

3:46:12 live. I'm not about there are a lot of the great patriots on the air and journalists, but I'm just saying the people out there that sit on the bench are halfway and then criticize. They do it because they're basically living vicariously through us because we're the main targets. But if we were taken down, they move on to them next. And when, as my mentor Andrew used to say, went by walking towards the fire, you send a message to other people that they can do it to the main, the main call to action. I want to get to the Veritas thing in a moment, but If you're inside the government, if you're inside the FBI, if you're inside any foreign intelligence agency, whatever it is, Mossad, I don't care what it is, but the CIA, I can't promise you. Previously I said I can help you, I can pay your bills, I've done all that.

3:46:51 I can't promise you they're gonna be physically or in a bodily superficial sense okay. But I can tell you it's incredibly spiritually rewarding. Do it for your conscience, do it for your country. The time is right now. Oh the greater danger is not standing up to the globalist, it has to be done. We're almost out of time, you're gonna be on the second hour though at 4 p.m. central but here's a clip from The Truth About Veritas, here it is. It was an emotional time seeing his, his B, get ripped from him. And it wasn't right. You never went through what I went through. You didn't endure all the things I had to endure. It's the FBI raiding you out there. You weren't sleeping on a couch trying to raise a hundred bucks here, a thousand bucks here. I'm invoking the Constitution here. Every defendant has the right to a fair trial.

3:47:42 And no justice can be done in Ferguson or New York City if a fair trial cannot be had. You didn't sleep on a mattress in Louisiana. You weren't falsely accused by the federal government not once but twice. You didn't go through three jury trials. The same James O'Keefe is facing federal felony charges. Charges that carry up to a quarter million dollar fine and ten years in prison. You never put on a hidden camera once in your life other than to record me in my office. You didn't bleed and sweat and cry. The way that I did for 14 years and you come into my institution and you have the gall to tell me that you're not the bad guy. This was never about you.

3:48:19 Another one of the lies about you, which is obviously about it, just gotta have a brain as I met you, know you, is they're like, James O'Keefe is secretly a candy ass. And then they get your text messages that you was dating all these beautiful women. I mean, it's just- That was crazy. You're talking about the former federal FBI agent who published my girlfriend's text messages like, newsflash, James O'Keefe, not gay. What is the, I mean, I guess what they try to do, Logan told me this, they try to do like a million paper cuts And just put a cloud of dust around you so that, you know what I mean? There's controversy after, it's like these non-existent controversies but taken as a whole, they try to dust you up. What do you think of the new Trump stuff? Inside one of the cases there's a letter from Trump saying our secret to, they haven't released it but I got two letters from Trump. Have you seen these?

3:49:05 Cuz I say they're real, I'm bigger than the Wall Street Journal. Dear Alex, you were tremendous in bed last night and me. Every day be another wonderful secret. Donald Trump then drew a picture of a naked woman, and that's from our love affair. Here's another one he sent me a year after that, Alex. My love, and it just goes on to say what an incredible time. Is that like the Joe Biden auto pen? Yes, this is it. Of course, I did this this morning. It's totally fake. But I mean, that's how easy it is. Look, I have these letters from, you know. And he's suing the Wall Street Journal. Yeah. Which should tell you something, because the fact that he's suing. That's an action that speaks louder than words. I stood the New York Times got past motion to dismiss when you when you make a lawsuit and go on offense like that that that's it that should tell you that it's probably. All right O'Keefe Media Group what are you going to be covering on Owen today in one hour? More Epstein and more the truth inside Veritas. All right O'Keefe Media Group. O'Keefe Media Group dot com subscribe support us please. And how do we find Wonder Woman online? I've seen her on TV.

3:50:01 I can neither confirm nor deny who she is or where she's from. Oh, you can't? Okay. All right. I just always wanted to meet Wonder Woman and I finally got to. And then the gay James O'Keefe's gonna leave with her. I'm just a kid. James O'Keefe, not gay, but I'll take you to the team. Undercover. Anything for the story. That was funny with the blonde hair. The Democrat Party, deep state law firms, Paul Weiss and others have been involved in a terror campaign against myself and my family. A legal terror campaign of weaponized lawfare, serious abuse of process. And they have been exposed repeatedly in federal and in state courts now, but they don't care.

3:51:00 They're simply accelerating their attempts to shut down InfoWars after they got caught running a fake auction last year to Bloomberg-backed Onion and the Everytown gun control group. And there was a bunch of other major fiascos that they engaged in, so they have egg on their face. So now they've gone back to the same state court where I was found guilty by the judge and then they had a show trial with a jury telling I was already guilty that was then produced by HBO. Remember that? Well, that same judge is now appointing a second receiver. They appointed one about 10 months ago, but because it was all done incorrectly, he got shot down in federal court. So now they're back with a new receiver. The last receiver sadly committed suicide, Mikkel Mercer, a few months ago.

3:51:51 And in this new giant two-inch thick document, they just continue to regurgitate all the disinformation, all the lies about myself and about my organization and my operation. And they're saying they could be in here as early as next week. Now we've survived a lot of these brazen, really reckless attacks. and we're in federal and state court battling it right now. And you're about to see a big presentation that I shot last week that is not aired yet because more information keeps coming in where we caught the Democrat Party law firm operations and the charities up in Connecticut engage in some very interesting

3:52:32 activities. You'll see that coming up here in just a few minutes. Just sit tight for a second. They want to make my life as miserable as possible. They want to terrorize and torture me and my family. They've had the US trustee from the Justice Department who got caught running the fake auction and all the rest of it. Now suing my parents, suing my wife, even though they did all these audits of myself and my companies and found nothing in the last three years of bankruptcy. It doesn't matter. They're simply doing it because now they can bill to the estate and also persecute me and my parents and my wife. Then on top of all of that, we have this state action that we're also battling in state and federal court. So when you go to defendalexjones.com, all the proceeds go into a trust

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3:53:59 Well, obviously. I know I'm a major target. I'm not some white-collar criminal. I'm not running scams on people. Even the New York Times last year had to admit, well, turns out Jones has meager assets and never had that much money. It's the Sandy Hook charities that have raised hundreds of millions of dollars off my name saying I'm persecuting them and playing victim. People think I killed the kids, not Adam Lanza. It's been insane. So again, when you go to Give CIN Go, defendalexjones.com is the URL that takes you there and you make a donation, whether it's $5, $100, $1,000, you are donating to the organization and to the family that is under absolute massive attack. Breaking news out of Texas tonight, a federal judge ruled that conspiracy theorist Alex Jones must sell off nearly all of his

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