Bret Weinstein Joins Alex Jones to Take on The New World Order in Exclusive Interview! — FULL SHOW 2/14/24

00:00 While other networks lie to you about what's happening now, InfoWars tells you the truth about what's happening next. Visit InfoWars.com forward slash show and support the InfoWars. What we want is a system that liberates individuals as meaningfully and as broadly as possible. That should be our guide. That's classically liberal. It is classically liberal and I believe it is also actually liberal and it is a perfect match for what I find my many conservative friends believe as well. That this is the metric that we can use to test any system that we put in place. Does it liberate people?

00:40 Where does it constrain them? If it liberates them meaningfully over the long term, it's a good thing. What they have recognized is that they have no use for us and I wish that was an exaggeration, but you can see this so clearly in what they did to the public over COVID. I don't think we really have any choice but to rescue Western civilization. It is the best tool we've got, always has been. It's not to say that it can't use upgrading here and there, but we have to save it because your children, my children, and all of the grandchildren that we might ultimately have are depending on us to do it.

01:20 And the idea of hyper-novelty is that although human beings are the fastest evolving animal species that has ever existed, And that is largely the result of the fact that we evolve in a different way. We are actually able to evolve culturally, which is much more rapid than genetic evolution. But even though we are the fastest evolving animal species that has existed, the rate of technological change is so fast that even our evolutionary capacity... We can't catch up. We cannot keep up. And that is resulting in us being sick physically, psychologically, socially, and

01:56 What you're detecting as the collapse of civilization is really a manifestation of many different kinds of hyper novelty that is making it difficult for us to see what's in our interest. They are gambling with A planet that isn't theirs to destroy, that is actually the birthright of every living person and it is the entitlement of all the people who will eventually live here. They are gambling with it and they obviously don't know what they're doing. It is likely that many of the deaths that occur as a result of these shots, it's the result of the mRNA platform itself.

02:35 that anything you loaded onto that platform would produce many of these pathologies, because the platform itself is deeply flawed. Former professor Brett Weinstein is in studio with us for an in-depth interview. We're taping this on Sunday while everybody else is watching the Super Bowl. I'm really excited about this interview. I've been trying to get him on the show for a couple of years. He's a very busy guy. He was just in town for the Joe Rogan number one podcast in the world, which I'm sure will have already aired by the time this interview goes out. But I just want to point out, I love football. It's great.

03:18 but our society is in so much trouble because of all the bread and circuses that people make their main focus sports and entertainment. That'd be fine if society and civilization wasn't in such a crisis. So I'm honored that he would spend Super Bowl Sunday, that's a religion to so many, including my family that's all watching it right now and wondering why I'm not there. Well, it's because this quite frankly is way more important. A game comes, a game goes, but this affects the entire future of our species on this planet that has never been in greater crisis in my view and when i first learned about the doctor and former professor at evergreen university in two thousand seventeen.

03:56 He was standing up against really horrible racism against white people saying they couldn't be on campus on certain days. And so I just want to remind folks of where we really started seeing this guy explode out there. And since then, he's obviously been everywhere. One of the top guests on Joe Rogan has his own hit podcast as well that everybody should search out. That's the Dark Horse Podcast. We'll put all that on screen for folks, darkhorse.locals.com and also on Rumble. And it's a show that I routinely watch because I do a lot of research but I certainly don't know a lot of what's going on in the world. It was a famous Greek philosopher said, I know that I know nothing. Anybody that tells you that they know everything is either a fool or a liar. The more you learn the more you don't know. But I learned a lot from Dr. Brett Weinstein and it's great to have him here with us. Now I've literally got dozens of topics I want to hit. Everybody knows

04:49 half the time I do an interview, it's me doing half the talking. I really want to give you, doctor, a chance to start wherever you want to cover the borders. You were just out of the Darien Gap with investigative journalist and war correspondent Michael Yon. You just did an amazing podcast with Tucker Carlson. I watched the whole thing. once and then watch the clips again. We played them on the show. You really nailed what's happening. And we were just talking before we started taping, you said, listen, we have to save Western civilization. We're in a crisis. We've got to transcend these labels of left and right. I totally agree with you. So we're going to cover the waterfront here today. And I really appreciate you taking the time to make yourself available. So let's start.

05:33 Well thanks i'm really glad to be here and meet you finally i've long been a fan of yours if a bit cryptically and in fact maybe that is a place to start. Many years ago i guess it would have been something like twenty eleven. I was part of the Occupy Movement and although the Occupy Movement got ridiculous quickly, and I wish I had realized where it was headed earlier, I was paying attention actually to your coverage of it and something that impressed and surprised me was that as the Occupy Movement was being targeted by the federal government, you

06:15 covered that targeting and you were incensed by it and I was I was heartened to see you defending people who obviously ideologically were not closely aligned with you. And I felt, I felt at the time, and I feel even more strongly now that you're a Patriot. And I really appreciate that you see all Americans as worth defending. So thank you for that. Well, thank you. But look, if I don't defend everybody, I'm not going to get defended. It was that famous, you know quote by the pastor in Nazi Germany that he didn't stand up for this group when they came after him that he's standing for that group and finally when they came for him there was nobody left to stand up for him. I exactly agree with this and I think that really is the team that needs to assemble all of the patriots who respect the principles on which the U.S. was founded and indeed the western civilization is founded need to put aside our

07:10 ideological differences so that we can fend off what threatens Western civilization and at the point that we've succeeded in doing that we can go back to fighting over ideological issues but for the moment they're beside the point. Now, I didn't really go into your bio and most people know who you are and they know a lot about you, but maybe we should just real quick talk about your background, what you've done, your best-selling book, The Hunter-Gatherer's Guide, The 21st Century, and then kind of your political process and what you would call yourself today. And then let's talk about that big attack on Western civilization and then launch into wherever you want to go. Sure. You want me to tell people my background? Just about yourself, yeah. Sure. I'm an evolutionary biologist. I studied bats as part of my dissertation work, but that work led me quickly to the study of biological trade-offs. That is to say,

08:02 Oftentimes anybody who's managed a system knows that you can't have everything, you have to borrow from one thing in order to accomplish something else. And it turns out that that's the way biology functions too. So anyway, that became my focus and it has an important implication to this day in terms of how I see civilization and other complex systems functioning. I taught for 14 years at the Evergreen State College which was a very strange place. It was the most liberal college in the country, I believe by almost any measure, and there was a lot to it that was crazy, but there was also a lot to it that was quite brilliant. The founders of the college had thrown out every single structure that would exist in a normal college or university and replaced it with something else. And half of what they built

08:54 didn't really work, but half of it actually allowed for professors who were very serious about teaching to innovate entirely new ways of doing that. We had total freedom to teach anything we wanted in any way we wanted. Students took one class at a time full-time, professors taught one class at a time full-time, and that meant that we knew every student not just by name, but we knew who they were and how they thought, and that allowed us to teach right to each individual, which is a very powerful way of doing it. Which, that strong connection with students is why when I was confronted May 23rd of 2017 by 50 students that I had never met accusing me of racism, I wasn't concerned. There were too many people who knew that that accusation had no reality to it.

09:48 And so I knew it wasn't going to stick. So that allowed me to stand up to them. And the protesters who came after me made the mistake of proudly filming everything they did. And when they released that footage to the Internet, people looked at me being confronted by students who weren't willing to even have a conversation with me. And they knew something was wrong in this diversity, equity and inclusion movement. Just to interrupt, it felt like a Maoist struggle section. I think it was in every way except that the students who were confronting me I don't think knew very much about Mao, but in every other way, yes.

10:27 Keep going, sorry. So, anyway, I was teaching evolutionary biology. The college had hired a new president who was interested in remaking the college according to very different rules. But he had a problem because at Evergreen, the faculty had the power to stop him. And so he effectively used racism to eliminate his opponents. And I became public enemy number one, not because there was anything wrong with my teaching, but because I was going to be an obstacle to his plans. And that resulted in the dramatic confrontation that

11:08 many of in your audience probably probably witnessed at the time Dialectic means you are using disagreement to discover what is true. I am NOT interested in debate I'm interested only in dialectic which does mean I listen to you and you listen to me This is not a discussion you have lost that one I am I am talking about terms that serve the truth. Those are the terms. I did not. I did not. You don't know. Do I think that black students in sciences are targeted?

12:01 I do not believe that students of color are targeted in the sciences here. But maybe I misunderstand what you mean by targeted. So wait a second. To me, targeted means something different than what I just heard you define it as. I do not believe that anybody on our faculty with intent specially targeted... That's what you gotta say! ...public protest. Was that not targeting people of color? I'm sorry.

12:47 I didn't hear you at the beginning. Your protest of Day of Ashes, your president taking it as a protest, if you will, that's what you said in your email. But you're targeting black students and Muslim students. May I answer that question? Okay, wait a second. First of all, first of all, First of all, Day of Absence has been here longer than I have. I have never protested it until the idea... Until... Until... No. No. First of all... First of all, I didn't...

13:28 So this sounds like almost like also like a French Revolution purge going on that once they killed the royalty and the rest of it then it was just inner factions battling for control. Yes all of these things have historical echoes. There were elements of what happened at Evergreen that were new but of course most of it were was just a refresh of historical chapters and you know it was about something else race became an excuse for a battle that was desired by powerful forces that weren't interested in sharing their plan with the faculty, students, or anybody else. It seemed like Evergreen wetted the mouth too, or the taste buds, because then it seemed to be like the bellwether, and then it spread across academia everywhere and was defended by the media. Now here we are six, seven years later, now everybody who's got to have a brain, the vast majority, say no, academia, major colleges have turned into nut houses.

14:27 Well, the fact is they were already and indeed that wasn't new either. When Heather, my wife, also a biologist, also actually she was Evergreen's most popular professor, but when we were in college ourselves, we faced the first iteration of what would later go on to be called diversity, equity and inclusion. At the time it was political correctness and it had taken over anthropology. And when Heather and I took an anthropology course, we found an evolutionary perspective unwelcome. And so we fought back against that. I actually failed the course because the professor was not interested in having any pushback. But in any case, this has been going on for decades. And it finally completely took over the universities and has left them in a state that's actually totally

15:20 totally upside out. I mean, it used to be that universities made students smarter. Now they're actually making them fools. They're teaching them things that just simply aren't true and enforcing their acceptance of those things. Like trying to make biologists tell their class that two men can have a baby? Precisely. I mean, this is just so biologically nonsensical that you would imagine every university in the country would have a group of biologists saying, I don't know how you reached that conclusion, but it just isn't right. And yet one struggles to find any university in which anybody is standing up against such claims. And that's really because the ones who would stand up have been forced out. Two words.

16:47 Bonus, Nitric Boost. Nitric Boost, 40% off, in stock, ready to ship. Infowarsstore.com, Nitric Boost. Thank you all for your support and you need this product. Wow, so thanks for spending some time on that. There's so many places to segue, so many places. Walk us through then in the present world and how you would describe just in a larger gestalt the world today and why you're so concerned about really the collapse of civilization. Sure. There's a feature of complex systems that I think people don't really appreciate. There are many systems that are incredibly powerful like Western civilization, but they are also in their own way fragile.

17:37 The fact is certain conditions have to be present in order for West Western civilization to function. The consent of the governed being key among them. We have to be able to throw people out when they don't do the job correctly. And to the extent that that control of the citizenry over governance is considered threatening by people who wish to use governance for their own objectives, they subvert democracy and they leave us with something in which yes, elections take place, but our ability to control in which direction policy moves is ever less obvious. So that's where we are. We've got a system with no rudder or if there is a rudder, it's under the control of something that we can't see headed in some direction we don't know.

18:26 and there's thousands of parallels to this but the globalists can't win this fight against humanity if the people have a voice and band dot video is one of the most important voices out there so share this report you're watching and also financially support its sponsor that has great products at mfullerstore.com again thanks for keeping us on air please share the video and please visit mfullerstore.com now the insanity that's been incubating or chastating inside of the colleges and funded by the big corporations, I guess there's a mode of control has spilt out to the FAA is going to try to put schizophrenics flying jumbo jets and they're literally going to hire mentally handicapped people. And when I first saw that news a few months ago, I didn't believe it. And I went and looked it up. Now they have

19:14 major FAA meetings and major airline meetings that have leaked just the last two weeks where they're sitting there saying it's gonna make everybody uncomfortable but we're not gonna go for who the best pilots are and you're watching this just thinking I don't care if they're black or white or old or young or gay or straight or male or female but you better damn well pass the highest test scores. What do you think are some of the key points that we need to remember as we embark on this challenge going forward? Your whole program is very heavily male dominated. It just is. And really it is white male dominated. I mean, let's just say what it is. And so let's be willing.

19:51 that is today what it is. And then let's talk about what could the future look like if you really had this program that was representative of the whole country, right, of the whole world. And sometimes those are challenging or difficult, or I would say people get a little bit uncomfortable talking about that. Like, hey, we're not going to make change unless we get a little bit uncomfortable. And let's be uncomfortable together. And let's do the right things and support each other moving forward. This is insane.

20:27 Well, when I was driven out of Evergreen in the early days after that, I was asked to speak in numerous places about the free speech crisis on college campuses. And at some point, I ended up testifying to Congress on this and I told them the same thing I had said each other time I'd been asked, which is it's not a free speech crisis and it's not about college campuses. That's simply the first place you're seeing it. This is somehow an attack on Western civilization and The wrong-headed ideas that are alarming when you see them in a classroom become dangerous when they migrate out into civilization and they take over engineering firms, they take over literally everything because almost all of the important jobs in civilization are done by people who passed through these colleges and were ideologically captured as they went through.

21:25 There is no question that those wrong-headed ideas are going to destroy everything that functions if we don't get our wits about us quickly. And even then, Even then you're talking about a problem that is going to take a couple of generations to correct. Even if we started doing everything right today, we have to clear the people who are so confused about the way mathematics and biology work, and we have to put people in important positions who know what's going on. But given the complete collapse of the university system, there isn't an obvious source for those clear-headed people.

22:04 And doctor that's one kind of level i'd say down at the grassroots thousand foot level 500 foot level 100 foot level but i saw you on tucker carlson's podcast i think he went further overseeing you saying no this is very dark this is very planned if you go up to the million foot level and look down Can you listen to klaus schwab and the globalists they say we're building a post industrial world we have an angry world to blow it up. Do this for the population and then somehow they're gonna try to like secret away the knowledge in some.

22:41 alexandria and vault and then roll it out later and i'm a lay historian is the comments that sky the research is not talk about other experts in every field military. Finance you name it they say no if they keep cutting off fertilizer and food and if they continue to stabilizing western countries collapse those. The war games go from horrible to Armageddon into the world. So, I mean, we're talking about cataclysms. And then you've got all these big billionaires like Zuckerberg and others building huge underground bunkers. And then all the locals built it and hate them and say, as soon as things go to hell, and I'm literally in Hawaii,

23:20 and ran into the main contractor and then the workers and all of them saying we're gonna go get that son of a bitch and they're telling me this and I'm like you know I'm a can I say that well don't say our names and I'm just sitting there watching them building this Bastille that's about to be raided in a new French revolution and these globalists think everything's stolen all the wealth, consolidated power, created a oligarchical fascist system with their computers and their flash trading and this vertical integration. And they're going to use some leftist ideology to try to control people when what they're doing is just scientific

23:57 insanity, scientific consolidation for the consolidation and then they think their plan of imploding civilization that somehow they're not going to have blowback from that. They are going, and again, they thought they could do all this and never be the target. They thought we would all kill each other, but now that we've identified the globalists and most thinking people now know about them and there's a huge Mass accelerated awakening happening when only deny they should know your plan would never have worked before One chance out of a thousand in my view now there's no way it works but as you said if we tried to put the brakes on this and the Globalist of the elite suddenly realized how insane they were it'll take generations to turn it around They've already set in motion a countdown to doomsday. I mean, I don't I've got four children. I want to fix this but I am mightily freaked out

24:50 Yeah, I agree. My impression is that they are clever enough to wreck the systems that work and they are far from clever enough to rebuild something in their wake. So yeah, I think they are heading us for disaster and that they are going to discover How much hubris has been driving them when it's too late for them, but I don't think we really have any choice But to rescue Western civilization, it is the best tool we've got always has been it's not to say that it can't use upgrading here and there but we have to save it because your children my children and all of the grandchildren that we might ultimately have are depending on us to do it and

27:07 So I will let's say the worst part up front which is that I regard myself not just as a liberal but as a radical. Now I describe myself as a reluctant radical because I've studied complex systems and I know that any attempt to improve things invites the danger of unintended consequences. This is the problem for liberal thought is that when you try to fix things you create phenomena you don't see coming. So I'm aware of that and I would not be enthusiastic about changing a system that works if I didn't think that we had to do it. That the system that we have built is not capable of managing the scale of the processes that we are utilizing today. So we have no choice but to change, but we should be very careful about the unintended consequences. We should go in with our eyes open and we should monitor the consequences of what we're doing

27:56 of what we're doing so that we know when we're making an error and we can stop as quickly as possible. So what you're saying is you want to change the previous system and fix problems but this new Klaus Schwab fix is is not the fix it's death. It's death, it is death and it's not that I want to fix the prior system. Frankly I think the prior system was pretty amazing and that what I ideally would like is for that system to go through a process of upgrading slightly so that we could detect the consequences of what we're changing. I just think at this point, civilization has technologically changed.

28:35 to an extent that many of our governance principles are inadequate for dealing with the risks. And you know, you can see this in the COVID crisis, for example. The biology involved in understanding the risks of the mRNA shots, for example, is pretty deep and protecting informed consent. Informed consent, in fact, needs to be, in some sense, upgraded and enhanced because of the types of risks involved in a novel technology like that. So in any case, I'm not enthusiastic about changing civilization. I'm a huge fan of what we had going, but technology is going to force our hand and we need to be careful. I understand that you're not trying to fix problems with the old system. You're saying it's colliding with all these great new changes and automation and robotics and super computing and quantum computing, all the rest of it. So we have to be honest. And instead,

29:32 Klaus Schwab and those guys literally go, it's magic. Once the AI is in control, we'll fix it. But we've got to bulldoze everything that was already there because we're going to imagine this big beautiful palace we're going to build. And then it's creating a perfect storm, like a black hole of destruction. Yes. And I would say the way to think of the problem is to separate the values from the structures and mechanisms that bring them about. And this is a place where I believe that there is no distinction between properly thinking liberals and properly thinking conservatives. What we want is a system that liberates individuals as meaningfully and as broadly as possible.

30:13 That should be our guide. That's classically liberal. It is classically liberal and I believe it is also actually liberal and it is a perfect match for what I find my many conservative friends Believe as well that this is the metric that we can use to test any system that we put in place Does it liberate people or does it constrain them if it liberates them meaningfully over the long term? It's a good thing and I do mean meaningfully. I don't I'm not talking about people being liberated to frivolously engaged nonsense. I'm talking about people who actually have enough power over their lives that they can pursue meaning or beauty and compassion. All of the best things about human empowerment. Yep, exactly. So just my little thought on this.

30:59 and only because I've read the writings of the think tanks, the Gates funds and the UN, the people that are running it and Klaus Schwab and Club of Rome. They just say humans are done. There's too many of them. When you get a bunch of freedom, you become decadent trash. We want to bring feudalism back for whoever we let live. And then we're going to sit up here like Mount Olympus and direct. I mean, it's the Hunger Games, but in the real world. And so that's why they want to destabilize the human system so that we're so inept that we've got to have machines come in to basically run our lives as a process of then phasing out the human era. As you all know, Harari talks about, you know, the post-human world, the world's, the future's non-human. And again, you look at that, it's not working. That plan would never work in my view. And it's incredibly risky. Plus billions of people aren't going to go along with it. That's called war. Please welcome Yuval Noah Harari. COVID is critical.

32:00 Because this is what convinces people to accept, to legitimize total biometric surveillance. We want to stop this epidemic. We need not just to monitor people, we need to monitor what's happening under their skin. What we've seen so far, it's corporations and governments collecting data about where we go, who we meet, what movies we watch. The next phase is the surveillance going under our skin. We now see mass surveillance systems established even in democratic countries, which previously rejected them. And we also see a change in the nature of surveillance. Previously, surveillance was mainly above the skin. Now it's going under the skin.

32:53 Embedded in his hand is a microchip that serves as his keys, his ID and his wallet. Governments want to know not just where we go or who we meet, above all they want to know what is happening under our skin. What's our body temperature? What's our blood pressure? What is our medical condition? In a matter of seconds the chip is inserted. Transformation is complete. When scanned, all of a person's information about their vaccination status is shown on a reader or phone. Now humans are developing even bigger powers than ever before. We are really acquiring divine powers of creation and destruction. We are really upgrading humans into gods. We are acquiring, for instance, the power to re-engineer life.

33:49 Humans are now hackable animals. You will own nothing, and you will have it. I think that fake news have been with us for thousands of years. Just think of the Bible. You know, the whole idea that humans have, you know, this, they have this soul or spirit and they have free will and nobody knows what's happening inside me. So whatever I choose, whether in the election or whether in the supermarket, this is my free will. That's over.

34:40 To me this is the central issue of it all. When you were on Tucker, you explained, you said, listen, there's not words to describe, I'm paraphrasing, how dark this is. The open borders, the devaluation of currencies, the destabilization. When you look at it, there is organization by the administrators, as you said, It's easy to dynamite and destroy things when you're the administrator and have all this BlackRock money, but notice they can't ever actually build anything. So they're sitting there going, look what a great artist I am, smashing things, and then society looks like a Jackson Pollock, but how are they ever going to paint a Rembrandt?

35:18 They're not. What they have recognized is that they have no use for us. And I wish that was an exaggeration, but you can see this so clearly in what they did to the public over COVID. They were unconcerned about delivering novel, they're not vaccines, but novel so-called vaccines into people who stood no chance for benefiting from them. Healthy young people, there was never an argument that made any sense for delivering those shots to healthy young people. About the best you could say was that you might

35:58 Do that in order to protect vulnerable infirm people that's not something a rational civilization would do but at least as a logical argument but at the point that we discovered that these things did not in any way control the disease they didn't control people contracting it they didn't control people transmitting it. The logic for inflicting them on healthy young people who were not threatened by COVID and stood to gain nothing evaporated. And yet we're doing it to this day. Harvard apparently just re-initiated their policy of requiring those shots for their own students. So what that's telling you is that whatever is driving doesn't care that it is going to kill people who have long, potentially important, contribute long lives of potentially important contributions to make. That's powerfully said and

36:55 Well, I've got 100 angles I want to go with, but Dr. where should we go next? People can find all your work at darkhorse.locals.com. They can also find you at Dark Horse on Rumble. They can find your book, which was amazing, right? Years ago, the hunter gatherers guide to the 21st century from a former professor at Evergreen State College. Where should we go next? I mean, I'm happy to direct this. You want to get into Tucker and Russia and the war, the borders, what's gonna happen with the election, Biden? I mean, you can see it everywhere. Things are unraveling. Well, let's briefly just talk about the central concept of the book that Heather and I wrote. Yes. The central concept of that book, and in fact, it would also have been a good title, is hyper-novelty.

37:40 And the idea of hyper-novelty is that although human beings are the fastest evolving animal species that has ever existed, And that is largely the result of the fact that we evolve in a different way. We are actually able to evolve culturally, which is much more rapid than genetic evolution. But even though we are the fastest evolving animal species that has existed, the rate of technological change is so fast that even our evolutionary capacity, we cannot keep up. And that is resulting in us being sick physically, psychologically, socially, and

38:16 What you're detecting as the collapse of civilization is really a manifestation of many different kinds of hyper novelty that is making it difficult for us to see what's in our interest, to figure out what to put in our mouths, to figure out what we should think about various issues. We are like a fish out of water. That's the analogy I use. Also, even our best men and women trying to go to Mars they're going to lose a lot of their muscle mass, heart mass, serious health problems. Once they get there, they're going to be very lucky that it has a lower gravity because they're going to be a lot weaker. And so what we're all going through is such a change. Whether people believe in classical evolution or not, it's clear humans are evolving. We do control our environment like

39:04 any other animal out there, we're able to do amazing things. But with something this accelerated, we can't do it. But I read a lot of globalist writings. They're very nihilistic. They sit back and say, screw it. It won't matter if billions die on this evolution, some humans will accelerate evolution and we'll get the uber mention out of this battle of the gods, gutter dommerung. I'm like, boy, I heard this from Hitler before. I mean, this is real megalomaniac crap. Yes, and in fact, I heard you recently talking about the fact that there are more than 400 civilian nuclear reactors on planet Earth.

39:42 What people may or may not realize is that those reactors require constant vigilance to keep them from melting down. Their design requires that heat be removed from them constantly. And so a civilizational breakdown threatens to take all of the material in these reactors and expel it into the world. Somehow i don't think the people who are recklessly steering us into such danger have considered the fact that they are living on a planet that is rigged so that they need people to maintain the integrity of those reactors even for them to have a planet worth living on.

40:19 It looks purely reckless to me and I don't think that there is a super clever secret plan that we are not in on. I think they think there is, but I think they're wrong that it actually makes sense. Oh, you're absolutely right. I mean, I've no folks that have gone to Davos have been around behind the scenes. I'll leave it at that. It's literally prostitutes, drugs. They're delusional. They think they're all powerful. They believe this. And they have no plan, even 30 years from now to have robots running these reactors. And it's crazy. If you look at the designs of these General Electric systems and others, they'll use outside power to then run the cooling and dump it into a cooling pond instead of the reactor's own power to run the system to use it in the cooling pond. And I'm not a nuclear physicist or any of this, but I read what they say. They're literally built the cheapest and the worst you could. And the minute the power goes off and the minute there's a crisis, folks, nuclear reactors are not like

41:11 100 megaton bomb going off over Dallas or Austin and there's a flash at 5,000 feet and it vaporizes and you know destroys most the city but there's very little radiation after that. When a reactor goes off like Chernobyl or like Fukushima it's much worse and those were partially contained. We're talking about hundreds and hundreds of reactors blowing up and even if you are half a mile underground it's going to end up getting to you and the surface of the earth will be unlivable for eons. As you said, I've looked at every angle, there's no way the so-called globalists

41:49 pretend they're masters of the universe, have even looked at this one problem. Right. This one problem already tells you that these are effectively madmen. Because if they weren't, they would at the very least have arranged to put all of the material that had been out of the reactors long enough, and I believe it's five years, into dry cask storage so that it did not have to be actively cooled in order to- Instead they store it in the open tanks. The worst possible place you could put it. And, you know, Fukushima taught us every- if you knew how to pay attention to the Fukushima story, it should have taught us everything we needed to know because, in fact, as bad as Fukushima was, and it's far worse in my opinion than most people realize, it was a fraction of as bad as it might have been. And the thing that separated what happened from what might have happened was luck.

42:41 They just barely managed to keep it together and it is not hard to imagine scenarios in which, for example, a fuel pool had cracked and drained causing a fire that would have made the site unmanageable. So they are gambling with a planet that isn't theirs to destroy, that is actually It is the birthright of every living person and it is the entitlement of all the people who will eventually live here. They are gambling with it and they obviously don't know what they're doing. Everybody knows I'm not f***ing around. I'm taking on the new world order. And if you want to energize yourselves and take your energy to the next level, then you need to get Foundational Energy. This, out of all our products, is the mother load. Get it now, Foundational Energy, at InfoWarsTore.com or go f*** yourself.

43:27 yourself. And by the way, I'm not the huge environmentalist in that I follow that cult. I actually care about the earth as a conservationist. It's also all the other creatures on this planet. Yep. This is sick. And I watched them saying, Oh, we're going to cut the carbon dioxide. That's the most evil thing. And I'm like, you won't even get control of the nuclear reactors, assholes. I mean, I'm sorry. It makes me mad. Well, I must tell you this is one of the things I like about you best is that you're looking at this logically speaking, not ideologically. And I find in fact many conservatives are not aware of the hazard of the nuclear reactors and they are frankly deaf to environmental concerns because environmental concerns have been abused by those selling climate change as the biggest threat to humanity. And what I'm hoping will emerge from a partnership across ideology is a recognition that

44:23 Irrespective of where you think the diversity of the earth came from. That we have an obligation to steward it well, and we are doing a terrible job of that. That we have an obligation to, if we're going to have nuclear power, it has to be built on a different basis than the reactors that we are currently continuing to run. Right? And that these are, this is just common sense. It's not liberal. It's not conservative. It is common sense. And I don't know, How we can gather under that banner, but I know that the need to do so is absolutely urgent. Well, I made the point and I guess you saw part of what I said last week. They did get picked up and got a lot of views, couple million views. I just said, if you sign up with the executive over nuclear power plant,

45:09 well, they made euthanasia legal. Well, just say then you agree that if it melts down or there's a big problem, you agree to be executed. No court, no nothing. You signed on. You're the steward. You agreed to run this right. And the shareholders are sitting out there. They need to be held responsible. And I don't want to run around killing people. I'm not salivating. I'm just making the point that these people are running things that just a few of these completely melting down will kill hundreds of millions of people of horrible cancers and stuff. And they should be held accountable. Well, at the very least, if you want the system to evolve in the direction of producing benefits for humanity, there has to be accountability for people when they make

45:49 avoidable errors. Well, how do we have accountability for the nuclear power industry? Because I get it's a real science. It can be done right. I've read a lot of books to see what experts have said, but when I look how they run it, they run it like it's a pig farm or something. I mean, it's just like, just like you said, Fukushima is what I was thinking about. They've got like all the nuclear waste stored inside the building and inside the water when you're supposed to remove it. Yeah. I mean, the design was preposterous and, you know, it was preposterous at, at many levels. You know, the fact that it below the known level of tsunamis meant that the flooding of the generators that were supposed to keep the cooling water flowing was perfectly predictable. And yet nobody cared about it. And, you know, as you point out, I don't think anybody who was responsible for that design was held accountable. In fact, we've just we've obscured the harm that did come from it. And we certainly haven't talked about the harm that might have come from it.

46:45 And don't forget the Japanese built it on the worst fault line in their country. Absolutely. This is a completely predictable catastrophe. So on a fault line in a tsunami zone. Right, with reactors, with generators that were unprotected from a flood that would, you know, wasn't a matter of if, it was a matter of when. Well, I used to talk to a lot of people in Congress, still do, and like military generals and people, I still do, but they would say, Jones, you don't understand how incompetent the elites are. You think they've got all the power and control. They don't. They've got all the money, so they're in charge, but they, let me tell you something, they are not paying attention. And I think that's more frightening

47:26 than some actual super genius, because at least a super genius wouldn't want to destroy themselves. Right. No, this is my exact concern, is that even the elites, what I call the rent-seeking elites, who we are clearly fighting, even they are depending on us winning, because they don't know how enough to run the system. They don't have the proper caution in their model. They don't understand the systems that they're playing with. Frankly, they can't distinguish between a complicated system and a complex system, and they keep up upending them explain that so a complex system is impossible to predict at a high level of precision which means that it requires a whole different level of caution than something that is just simply complicated like a computer where it may be beyond your ability to understand what's going on in there but it is all understandable right you can say what a computer is going to do when you alter this that or the other thing a complex system is a special entity

48:22 entity. And, you know, in the case of COVID, you had multiple nested complex systems, right? You had a disease interacting with the immune system, which is a complex system inside a human body, which is a complex system inside of civilization, which is a complex system. No wonder they screwed it up. They just simply didn't know enough about that system to, to to manage it and of course it got out of control. And frankly, those of us who did appreciate the complexity of the system were able to reveal their foolishness publicly just simply by treating the systems in question with the proper level of analytical respect. And I get up front because you didn't know exactly what was going on at the time, you wanted more data, you were going along with it at first, but then once you saw what was happening, you changed course. That takes more courage

49:17 you know, than people that are partly wrong and they never admit they're wrong. But if we pull back from this, How did they think cooking this up in a lab? How did they think when all the scientists scanned it and said, yeah, it's obviously manmade. And then they bring out a shot, which even their own internal people go public saying, this isn't going to work. Even the FDA had a memo out in October, 2000 saying, we think it'll have all these problems. And then the big money people just said, we don't care, bring it out there, do it. And now I watch the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation events. I watched the congressional hearings. I watched the hearings. uh, with all the other big think tanks like the, uh, Clinton global initiative. And there's Chelsea Clinton going, it's true. Everyone hates us now and doesn't believe us. And now no one's taking any of the shots. It's like 3% uptake on the, on the new boosters. And like I was, I was telling him, I'm like, whether they did it on purpose or not, regardless,

50:13 It shows that they didn't know that this would absolutely screw the pooch I mean because they have they I mean they are hated now Well, and rightly so. You know, it would be one thing if they had made all of these errors and then upon the revelation that these things were wrong had changed course. But the fact that they don't change course tells us they didn't care in the first place whether what they were saying was true. Maybe they didn't believe any of it to begin with. So whether they did it on purpose or not, which you can debate all day, they certainly now know and have bought into keeping it going. So now they are behind it.

50:50 Right, I mean the fact is those shots should never have been injected into a human being. It was absolutely clear that we didn't know what their long-term consequences were going to be. The evidence that they had benefits was misrepresented so that people would accept them with simple accounting tricks and the like. But yes, the fact that they are still inflicting these shots tells us that they didn't care about the public in the first place and we ought to take that lesson to heart. Now, to your point about having bought it at first,

55:21 And you're a bat scientist. I'm a bat biologist, so I looked at it and I thought I would. You're Batman. I guess. But I looked at this and I looked at the paper in question and I thought it would be good, it would be reassuring to tell my Twitter followers that I'd looked at this, that I knew the bat family in question, that it made sense to me that this virus would have emerged in a contact between people and these bats, etc. And so I put out a tweet. And one of my followers came back and said, are you saying it's a coincidence that this virus emerged on the doorstep of a biosafety level four research lab studying bat coronaviruses in Wuhan? And I said, what the hell don't I know? That's shocking, that level of coincidence. And I retracted my tweet. And the point is, that's where my awakening started. Now, I did believe that masks

56:14 had a potential value and in fact that's not such a crazy belief because we didn't know at first whether this virus transmitted by what's called fomite transmission on surfaces and if it did then not coughing droplets onto surfaces would have been useful. Turns out it doesn't transmit that way. Turns out the evidence is that masks don't play an important role and so I got that wrong. Well let's make this clear because people attacking for this Because they're jealous. You're really smart. You're entertaining. You're informative. I like your show. Everybody I know likes your show. I told family you were coming on. They were really excited about it. You're popular. People love you and you're a good guy and you're smart. The fact that you got some things wrong early on out of trying to be cautious and then reverse yourself and become a prominent person fighting it gives you more credibility, not less. Well, frankly, this is if I

57:03 If I'm looking to figure out who I should be paying attention to, the ability for somebody to improve their model as evidence emerges is the key question. That's science. That's how it's done. And so, yeah, I would love not to have gotten anything wrong, but that's, I think, inconceivable. I assumed that something we were being told was true. I now think, at least at the level of the advice we were given, that essentially you wanted to do exactly the opposite of what you were told to do. That would have been the best possible thing. They told you to go home. Don't go home. Go outside. Make vitamin D. But see, you're in the Amazon writing a book. I'm reading Rockefeller Foundation documents. I'm interviewing the guy that wrote the U.S. biological weapons law. So that's why we were just like, do the opposite.

57:48 Do the opposite well actually you know it's funny. I'm reading Robert Kennedy jr.'s new book on Bioweapons and the connection to Wuhan no and it is absolutely frightening history that most of us do not know about our own biological weapons program. And if you had known- Talk some about that. Well, I'm learning from Bobby Kennedy, so I would recommend people read this book. Just like his last one, The Real Anthony Fauci, you know, it's the kind of- I read the last one, incredible. It, I mean it, frankly, it's a book that throws everybody who reads it, and I think through Bobby when he wrote it,

58:30 that even just compiling the evidence of what was going on with Anthony Fauci is shocking almost no matter how awake you are. It's staggering. Yeah, it's staggering. And so the same thing I would say is true with this, his new book about bioweapons and Wuhan. But I just highly recommend people look at it and they come to understand, for example... Then you learn they're all over the place. You learn they're all over the place you learn that there is a direct connection from the Japanese. Buy weapons program during the during world war two and the program that was then built in the US it's really a strange story and then the.

59:14 Maybe the most important aspect is that what we see as a pharmaceutical industry and a campaign to generate vaccines that control disease has a very close relationship, just in terms of the people involved, has a very close relationship with that bioweapons program. That is something every citizen needs to be aware of, that these two things are not distinct. I remember reading about it. It's very well documented. At the end of World War II, they let a bunch of the Japanese war criminals that did the baton death marches and all the biological testing on British, Australian, Canadians, because a lot of them were over there and US sailors and people. It was mainly British Empire troops. And they let up most of them off. I guess they hung a few of them and they brought them over here just like the Nazis.

1:00:04 And got all the technology. Right, and if you think that the Nazis were the height of diabolical in terms of their medical experiments, the Japanese were involved in literally infecting people or having people infect other people and then dissecting them live without anesthetic. I mean this is atrocity at a level that stretches the capacity of the mind. Well that's that that's the Japanese are really cool people and very interesting but if you go back to Japanese imperial brainwashing and how they worked if you were rude to your boss you would he'd say kill yourself and you would their thing was these troops surrendered even though they were all shot up and stuff you're not a human anymore you surrendered that's why they were flying their planes into our aircraft carriers and committing suicide before they'd give up when they were wounded because that's

1:00:51 That's like to them like oh you you surrendered even I got three bullet holes you're subhuman it goes back to that. Well that's one lesson the other lesson I would take is that this is actually a set of circuits in the human animal that can be triggered and when we look at something like the response to kovat of the official governmental apparatus and the International community and we look at the evidence and it suggests that actually these people did not care about the suffering and death of citizens of any country then

1:01:29 What prevents us from making the connection is that it seems impossible for anyone to be so callous But the evidence that that kind of callousness exists that we have well-documented Historical evidence that that not only exists, but that it recurs through history. The question is is that where we are now? I want you to expand on that because One of the biggest mistakes of the Canadian military, the US military, and I'm not blaming the average troops, but the higher ups and the European Union military as I'm sure you saw it in about 2021 by the end, they came out during the dancing nurses and all of it

1:02:09 and said we brainwashed the public and used psychological warfare systems to scare everybody to submission so they do the right thing and take the shots and actually our militaries ran this and we know now the Pentagon was involved in developing the vaccine and we're so proud of it. So they admit they were running a PSYOP. They do. What I don't know yet is what the purpose of this was. They seemed absolutely dedicated to getting a shot in every arm. in principle, I suppose could be driven by greed, but it does not feel like a satisfying explanation. There was something driving them to want to vaccinate everybody, even children who stood no chance of getting any benefit from this. What was that about? That's the question that keeps me up at night. All right. So do this doctor. Um, and I'm going to try to, cause you're so polite. I'm trying to give you the floor here.

1:03:06 I saw you do a great job on Tucker, but even more has come out since you were on a month or so ago. You break down and do a great job explaining that we're talking about 17 million dead, not from the COVID virus. But from the so-called shots and then now more information's coming out and there's an active cover-up going on. Can you kind of repeat that but also expand on it? Sure. Now I want to be careful. People have taken me to task for saying that 17 million people died, which I didn't say. The statistics show that number's gone up. Well, Dennis Raincourt did

1:03:44 What I think is a credible estimate. It's well published. I think you had him on And so it suggests that something like this magnitude Of death has occurred now of course let's say that his estimate is accurate. That's still a a number in the midst of the development of whatever the pathologies will be. We're still dealing with a wave of excess death that has not ended. So we don't know ultimately what the number would be. My point would be what we need is an active conversation about how much excess death happened and what were its causes. Clearly some of it was caused by things like lockdowns which prevented people from getting regular medical care. But what we need to know is what is the right order of magnitude for that effect and what is the nature. Now,

1:04:46 This is, forgive me, this is a little complex, but I want people to think about it carefully because a lot has been put on the spike protein. People imagine that the spike protein is the cause of the pathologies. And while I think the spike protein was a very poor choice for these shots, that it does create pathologies of its own, I don't think it's the majority of what's going on. And in fact, what I believe is It is likely that many of the deaths that occur as a result of these shots, it's the result of the mRNA platform itself. That anything you loaded onto that platform would produce many of these pathologies because the platform itself is deeply flawed and

1:05:37 That matters a great deal because one of the things and I don't know what level in the explanation it serves But one of the things that is true is that the kovat pandemic whatever its nature was from complete psyop to entirely biological allowed the normalization of the mRNA platform being brought and used on the public with minimal testing, which made the flaws in the platform disappear. It's good for your heart, your brain, everything. It is 40% off back in stock. Bodies Ultimate Turmeric Formula. Infowarsstore.com. Bodies, an ally in the battle against inflammation.

1:06:27 Visit Infowarsstore.com now and seize the opportunity to take control of your health. Now you know the rest of the story. Until next time, good day. The fact that we were in a hurry to get out of COVID allowed them to normalize the mRNA platform and that that platform, from the business perspective, allows you to reformulate virtually any vaccine that you wanted and... In a lifetime. Right. Presumably to repatent it, to create vaccines very quickly for new pathogens, whatever their origin might be. And what we in the public need to be aware of is that they haven't figured out how to solve the problem with it. So anytime they deploy it, we need to say no.

1:07:20 So let me just describe a little bit about why that flaw exists. The mRNA message, this is a genetic message loaded into this platform, is surrounded by something called lipid nanoparticle. If those lipid nanoparticles stayed in your deltoid muscle, then their consequence would be localized. And although this consequence would be negative in your deltoid, it wouldn't be devastating to your health. But they of course don't stay in your deltoid, which we learned very early. They circulate around the body. And the problem is that that lipid nanoparticle, lipid just means fat, and because like dissolves like, the fat on these tiny particles causes the mRNA to be absorbed into any cell they encounter. All of your cells are covered in a fat layer. So wherever these things circulate around the body, they get absorbed.

1:08:18 And when they get absorbed, they trigger the cells that have taken them up to produce this protein. Now, this is the important part. Your immune system is built so that it recognizes any cell of yours that is producing a protein that you do not ordinarily make. And it targets that cell and destroys it. Like it's cancer. Like it's virally infected. So basically their mRNA shots are a pseudovirus. They infect cells, cause those cells to make this protein, and then the immune system treats them like they are virally infected cells and destroys them. Which, if that happens in your liver, maybe it's not that serious. You can afford it. If it happens in your heart, it's potentially devastating because it creates a wound, which is then a vulnerability. If you're a soccer player and you're running particularly hard,

1:09:09 You know, you can get a blood vessel that bursts in your heart causing a devastating pathology, causing your death for example. This is a predictable consequence of a shot that has no ability to target which cells take it up and therefore no ability to protect you from your own immune system destroying the cells that have taken it up and giving you a lethal wound. We're taping this now but that gives me the luxury to go back and add these clips in but there were three or four C-SPAN programs with Fauci and others in 2017, 18, 19 with all the different federal heads up there. They're like we're going to use a novel virus out of China and I'll play the clip

1:09:49 to blow up the old FDA system and we're just gonna bring in mRNA. Well, I'm not a scientist, I'm not a doctor, I'm not a biologist like you, but I sit here every day and I read Scientific American and I read studies and I read it. I remember, I've been on there 30 years. I remember reading 20 years ago about, hey, mRNA cancer trial or mRNA this and like one kid was a study in New York died. And they're like, well, we think it's promising, but it kills so many people, we can't do it. And so in lay terms, that's the platform itself is so dangerous. Yeah, maybe you can do something

1:10:29 but we can't use the whole public as guinea pigs and I just see them trying to pollute the whole system with so much death and illness that now we don't know what hit us so they can then use all of us the big corporate system as guinea pigs because they themselves want life extension and they themselves want the cure to cancer but they're saying we've got to do this and now Tony Blair has got a company and so does Bill Gates. Oh, they've got a new mRNA vaccine cures cancer. Oh, didn't know cancer was communicable. No folks, they've changed the definition of vaccines to where it just means something that we put into your body that lessens a disease. But just five years ago, it was totally different. So I even had my 15 year old daughter this morning at breakfast.

1:11:19 And she's arguing with me about vaccines and you know, and she's reading stuff online and you know, she goes to school and I try to explain things to her and she says, dad, A vaccine is just something that lessens the disease. And I said, no, honey, before that, if you've got a real vaccine, it's a real technology, your body learns how to beat it. They give you a broken version of it or a weakened version and you beat it. May still have side effects. Sometimes you might have an allergic response, but if they had good clean stuff, I'd take the risk. I'd be taking it all like it was pumpkin pie. She's like, dad, how do you know all this? And I said, well, fine, I got a scientist coming on. I'm going to make you watch it in a couple of days. She said, fine, I'll watch it. So this is the level we're dealing with here. But am I right in what I said? Yeah, you're right in what you said. They changed the definition and they utilized an emergency in order to speed it past the tests that I believe would never have allowed it to be used on humans or frankly, even farm animals.

1:12:18 They used the panic that was in the public panic which they themselves induced in order to sneak it past the controls and I do have to wonder how much They saw this coming. Either they waited for an emergency or it's possible they created the emergency. Those are two distinct hypotheses, but nonetheless, they used the fact that people urgently wanted to have their fear of the virus lessened to sell a lie. And in fact, this is where I talked a little bit about how I woke up at the point

1:12:56 that my Twitter follower told me that there was a biosafety level 4 lab studying these viruses in Wuhan. The place where that process really kicked into high gear was at the point that they said these so-called vaccines were safe. Heather and I knew for certain that that could not possibly be the case. And the reason it can't possibly be the case is because safe does not mean without harm, it means without risk.

1:13:33 If a person gets in their car drunk and drives home and they don't hit anything, it was still not safe. The fact that they did no harm doesn't mean anything. It was dangerous. So when they told us that these so-called vaccines were safe, they had to be lying and they had to know it. And yet they looked right into the camera and they told us that. So safe and effective. Safe and effective. Effective turned out to be equally nonsensical, but SAFE had to be a lie. And at the point that they were lying over that, then it raised questions of informed consent. Because of course, at the end of World War II, the Allied powers tried Nazi doctors and we literally hung seven doctors. We killed them because they had violated informed consent of their patients, even though informed consent had not been formally codified yet.

1:14:25 So for public health authorities in 2021 to be telling us that these shots were safe when they knew better meant they weren't interested in informed consent. They had somehow given up on that principle and that was effectively a declaration of war on the public. And then you add all the pressuring and all the intimidation and all the mandates. Now I notice in Australia and Germany and the UK and Canada are like, we never told you you had to. Well, they fired hundreds of thousands of nurses worldwide and persecuted people. No, you guys just, Joseph Minglet, you literally just violated the Nuremberg Code, correct? Absolutely. And in fact, I was, I had not read the Nuremberg Code

1:15:14 until I started looking into this question. And there are 10 provisions in it. And not only did they violate the Nuremberg Code twice, right? It wasn't consent, it was coerced, and it wasn't informed, they lied to us. But they violated every provision in it, right? This was, they torched the Nuremberg Code. And we still haven't had that conversation publicly. And notice how smart, because I read that on air like three years ago, how good those lawyers were back then because they covered every angle a tyrant would try. And you read it, you go, oh my God, that's what they just did. It's like, instead of saying don't violate it, they went, this is how we do it. It is possible they used it as an instruction set. And that tells you what kind of contempt they must hold us in. For them to have looked at a pillar

1:16:06 of Western civilization and achievement that, you know, was represented something of the sacrifice of at least six million people in the death camps, right? That they would torch that so willingly really tells us what we're up against. All right, Dr. Brett Weinstein, stay right there. I wanna come back in the time we have and hit a whole bunch of issues. Tucker, Russia, the wars, the border, all of it with you, amazing. We'll be right back, folks, stay with us. Two years ago, we began developing this game that came out so much better than we thought it would. It is now a number one hit. I imagined the control freak left attacking it. But I didn't know that right when the game came out, with perfect timing, Elon Musk would release me on X.

1:19:42 I want to hear your view on things. How do people, not that most folks don't know about or don't listen, find your podcast, find your show, find your book. We're going to put it on screen. Dark Horse is the name of your podcast, darkhorse.locals.com. You also have Dark Horse on Rumble. We're putting that on screen right now, but what else would you like to tell the viewers and listeners about where they can find you? It'd be great if you would sign up for my Twitter feed. I'm at Brett Weinstein. Brett has one T and yes do sign up on for our locals community and on our rumble channel that helps us it's free to you and we really appreciate it. And I'm glad you raised that because I know your Twitter I know your ex been following it for years but even when I was kicked off Twitter before Elon brought me back and I still sometimes run onto the fake accounts.

1:20:34 There are fake accounts and there is something algorithmically going on inside of Twitter which is also very strange when you see it from my side of the screen. I don't know what it is, I suspect it's not Elon doing it. But let's put it this way. He said that he had in fact purchased a crime scene. And I think that is a very apt description. There's a lot about Twitter that is not straightforward. When I was able to speak to him for over two and a half hours, like six weeks ago, he said, listen, it was set up to run these shenanigans. The very fabric of it is a fraud. We're trying to fix it. Yeah. It's like a ghost of the machine. That's in fact exactly the phrase that I used

1:21:15 to try to convey this to him. There are things that I can see from my side that I think he's unaware of. So anyway, I hope he does fix it. At one point he was talking about having to rebuild it in order to get all of the ghosts out of the machine and I don't know where he is with that thought process. Because I have contacts not as good as yours but I'm able to call some of those top people when they block us or won't let me put my website on. He goes yeah we'll fix it. It's fixing an hour and then somebody turns it back on. They built a lot of back doors. Right. There's a lot going on in there that is not about the front end of Twitter. All right. We got 40 minutes left. Let's run through it all. You just went to the Darien Gap. Again, that's where North America ends or Central America ends. It goes into South America. They're officially building this giant U.N. operation. You did a great summation when you were on Tucker, but can you expand on that for viewers?

1:22:07 Sure, so the Darien Gap is a gap in the Pan American Highway. It's about 60 miles in length where the highway has never been completed. This is a highway that goes from Prudhoe Bay, Alaska to the southern tip of South America and there's a jungle. In fact, there's a national park in the Darien province of Panama and what has happened is that for various reasons, largely encouraged by the international community, various NGOs, there is a massive migration of people coming through the Darien Gap. And this is a disaster at an environmental level. This is extremely destructive of this unique forest. And it really is a unique forest.

1:22:52 It is a humanitarian catastrophe as well. People are dying in the jungle because almost all of them enter it unprepared and it's an extremely difficult habitat to cross. And it's also, I'm not even sure what the word would be, but politically the implications of the huge number of migrants, almost all of whom are coming north to the US, are going to cross our southern border. The implications are utterly profound. Now what I told Tucker was that I wasn't exactly sure why I went to look at this in person because there's plenty of documentation from Michael Yan about what's taking place, but something told me that I needed to see it in person in order to understand it. And that

1:23:40 Turned out to be true that actually looking at it in person changed what I understood and I came to the conclusion that there is a massive migration but there is also something My hypothesis is that it's actually an invasion of Chinese migrants who are motivated by something entirely distinct from the people migrating from elsewhere in the world. The migrants from elsewhere, a lot of them are from South America, some of them are from the Middle East, but those migrants all tell the same story about being motivated by the economic collapses in their home countries and what they perceive as economic opportunity in the US. The Chinese migrants aren't interested in talking at all. In fact, they're extremely cagey to the extent that one gets anything from them. It is a kind of hostility. There is a distinct male bias in the population of Chinese migrants. So we're talking about young military, military age males,

1:24:41 Most of them very fit, unwilling to talk about what they're doing, and oddly enough, housed separately in Panama. So... And we know there's some Chinese government sponsorship. It certainly looks like the Chinese government would have to be aware of these migrants. Presumably it would have had to let them leave China. And they've got complex apps? They have, yes, this is a strange combination of low-tech and high-tech. There are apps that appear to tell them where to go and how to make the migration.

1:25:16 They are using things like Western Union in order to bring money from home so that they can buy bus tickets that allow them to travel through Central America. It's a very odd circumstance and the international community has its fingerprints all over it. You can see American flags, you can see the IOM, that's a UN body that if you read their website, They clearly believe that migration is inherently a good thing and it is their job to bring it about. So this organization is inviting people to try to cross the Darien Gap, some of whom don't make it. Mothers are leaving the jungle having lost children, children are leaving the jungle orphaned. It's a catastrophe. And why the international community is encouraging it is to me,

1:26:14 completely mysterious. And no media coverage other than you and Tucker Carlson and Michael Yawn and it's a humanitarian disaster. You made a point on Tucker, I forget the exact quote but it was powerful. You said it's almost impossible to overstate how dark and organized this is. Yes, it's visible on the ground, but nobody goes to look at it. And I must say I'm grateful to Michael Jan for having invited me and having given me effectively a guided tour. He brought in fact me and my son. We traveled to Darien and he knew exactly where we were.

1:26:49 where to take us so that we could look at it for ourselves. Maybe it's also you going home, because I think Jan told me you actually, for part of your bat research, lived down there for a while, right? I lived in the Panama Canal in Lake Gatun on Barrow, Colorado Island for 18 months while I was studying bats. So I know Panama reasonably well. And what is taking place in the Darien Gap and moving north is in its own way an inversion of what was true in Panama when I was there in the late 90s. So the- Meaning the US military was still in control and- Well, the handover was in process, but the US had not officially handed the canal over and its military presence was still there. And these things were well understood. The canal was an American achievement, the military's presence there

1:27:47 was both symbolic and important to the protection of the canal, which was understood to be vital to the interests of the United States. And now in Fort Clayton, which was the Army South headquarters, when I was there, that has now been taken over by the international community and turned to the purpose of encouraging this migration, thereby jeopardizing the security of the United States. So it's a UN globalist invasion port. You know, it seems to be. It's very hard for me to imagine. I don't know what story these people tell themselves about what they are doing. But yes, it appears to be that what was once what was built to protect American interests and to facilitate our well-being is now being turned to its exact opposite purpose. Like everything else, I don't see how the powerful financial interests of the world

1:28:42 are using American power to continue their corporate empire, but at the same time schizophrenically, paradoxically, moronically attacking it. Yes, I mean, I think we're always left to struggle for what they could possibly be thinking. And I think where you began this discussion is exactly right. We have to take into account that Diabolical, yes. Geniuses, I don't think so. I think these people are reckless and they do not understand that they're having a much easier time breaking these systems than they will have rebuilding them. I think they're looking only first order. They're not looking second, third, fourth order.

1:29:26 Well, it's almost like they have the mentality that they can, you know, rebuilding the system isn't high on their priority list because they know that they have to break the systems that allow citizens some control over their own well-being and their own future. That's the crazy gamble. They think they can wreck it and then rebuild it. Yes, and in fact it's not unlike what the diversity and equity inclusion, diversity, equity and inclusion folks are thinking, right? They are very focused on tearing down a system, the evils of which they believe themselves to be thoroughly familiar with. Even though they're in control of it, that's the mental illness is they're in control of it. Like it's kind of like when the,

1:30:13 The fall of Rome finally happened in 410 with Alaric, and they burned down almost everything. They were so shocked by one building, they left it alone. But it never came back, basically, because they just said, well, we'll just burn it instead of saying, well, we run this now. Right. And the fact is, Heather frequently points out that this is really a mistake that could only be made by people who have not traveled the world. Because once you've seen how successful our system actually is, yeah, there's unfairness in it, no question about that. But you would address the unfairness at the level that it actually exists, rather than imagine that if you tear it apart,

1:30:53 that something better will replace it. Let me use a silly analogy. Here's American Western success for GDP and human freedom and medicine and mobility and human empowerment. It's up here. And then it's got a lot of unfairness to it. So it's got unfairness down here. The game changing nootropic is now back in stock at info war store.com. You need to experience brain force ultra for yourself. It's special. It's available at info war store.com. but the system they're going to create has a ceiling way down here, way worse than even what people live in, in the unfairness. Absolutely. There's almost no way that they could exceed what Western civilization has already done to bring about fairness, which doesn't mean that it has arrived at fairness, but the- But we don't blow up the best thing we got. Right. It's like you're on a ship at sea and you decide that you don't like

1:31:46 something about its construction so you're going to sink it in hopes that something better comes along. And instead you just drown. Right. That's what you're going to do. You take it into port, you buy the ship, you change it. Right. You upgrade the ship or you trade it for something. You don't destroy it in the hopes that a better one is going to arrive because that's not going to happen. You're going to drown as a result of that folly. This is an incredible interview. We only got 30 minutes left, but you're hitting on all cylinders. And we're all seeing the same reality. It's not like we're following some script of music or some directive we got. It's right there. Right, I mean in fact that's the best indication that you have that a story is true is that people happen on it from multiple different starting points. That's how you know that you're really onto something and so I love the fact that you and I have arrived at a similar place from very different starting points. That's confirmation that it's real.

1:32:36 Alright, shifting gears out of that then, what do you make of the hysteria over Tucker? Hundreds of millions of views on Axe, billions have seen clips of it, one of the biggest interviews ever, it's like moon landing level coverage, and then you've got him calling him a traitor, Boris Johnson, Democrats want the espionage act to be used. I mean, this is shameful. This is hysterical. This is what is your view as, as, as my that's researched, uh, what freedom is about academia, all of this. I mean, this is, this is, and then the Putin interview was really. I mean, I thought him just kind of giving up saying we'll never be friends. You never want to stop. And basically, we're never you're never going to dominate us. So that's the way it is. Yeah, I find the reaction to Tucker revealing for one thing. I know Tucker.

1:33:26 and I quite like him. He's a very decent guy and I know when you're in person you pick up 10 times stronger we see on TV. This is a real Santa Claus type. This is a sweetheart. Well, like you, he is a conservative who loves other Americans, even who don't share his ideology. He very much appreciates nature and wants to see it protected. So, um, you know, as far as I can tell this, this, this is a, this is the real deal. And of course the fact of a journalist going to interview a foreign leader who is in many ways hostile to the U S and to the West, that is perfectly in keeping with,

1:34:09 the principles that make the West work. Kennedy talked to Khrushchev, we didn't blow ourselves up. Right. So this is just simply a matter of holding somebody to a different standard because it allows you to tear them down. You know, I don't know what to make of what Putin said. I did find it, there was something interesting about how different culturally his approach to this interview was. You know, it was obviously mired in, you know, historical questions of in my opinion, limited relevance to... He was arguing his legal right, you know, because this is ours, instead of using the opportunity. Right. But nonetheless, in terms of whether there's anything questionable about Carlson going there to interview him, no, I'm glad he did go there to interview him because we need to know, even just need to know what Putin sounds like to himself. That's useful information from the perspective of protecting ourselves from

1:35:06 Exactly. And boy, wasn't it a paradox to see Joe Biden, who can't even string a sentence together versus Putin? You got, whether you love Putin, hate him or neutral, this guy runs a nuclear power. This guy's in charge. You're talking to the leader and this guy knows what he's talking about. Whether you agree or not, this guy's not an idiot. Right. It's, I mean, you know, It's a fact-finding mission and he was doing the job of a journalist and it was refreshing to see it. So I think the controversy over it is entirely synthetic and just designed to tear somebody down. But it also goes to the incompetence because the Streisand effect, I'm not a rocket scientist folks, I'm like, hey Tucker it's great being attacked if we didn't have a smigger. If they'd have just shut up it would have had 20 million views.

1:35:50 Right, they did turn it into a phenomenon. So why aren't they smart enough to see, first order, you demonize Tucker, you're discredited, it only makes him bigger, and the interview is 20 times bigger? Like, a fool would know that. Well, so I actually think this goes to another set of questions. So I, as a COVID dissident who watched us outfox the official narratives and those who were spreading it, I think a lot about the force that we're up against. And my model, which I did talk about on my first interview with Tucker a couple months ago, is that we are up against something that I call Goliath. And Goliath is partly built of a cabal or several cabals, and it's partly an emergent phenomenon. It is ferociously powerful, but it's also stupid.

1:36:47 It is relatively easy to beat if it is not on territory where it is dominant. And so this means a couple things. One, it means those of us who are fighting that force should always keep in mind that getting Goliath on our territory, not its territory, is the way to beat it. You can beat it easily if it's off its footing. And that's why we marched into a trap on January 6th. We went into Goliath's territory. Right, exactly. And it was scripted. So the fact that Carlson, like you, like Joe Rogan has established an outpost that is not supposed to exist, right? An unsanctioned kind of media. That's not Goliath's territory. And in fact, Goliath made the terrible error during COVID of imagining that off-brand media didn't matter when in fact it mattered ever more as people

1:37:44 Detected that what they were getting on the mainstream channels was not true and in fact was capable of harming them. They started listening to other people who were making sense and piecing it together and so in any case i think what's going on. is that Carlson powerfully demonstrated that you could actually take the off-brand media and you could start doing the job that a newspaper might once have done with a newsroom full of reporters traveling the world, that sort of thing. Wow, I'm so impressed, man. That's why I love your podcast, because you say things in a really slick way that takes, I'm sitting at home thinking this, I'm like, Tucker is taking real journalism for the first time

1:38:24 and bringing it to the new space that is already, no one trusts the old system, but that was an old thing for real journalists and real reports. But they've so wrecked themselves, no one believes it, even if they said the sky was blue or the oceans, you know, wet. And so Tucker's actually going into the new independent media that is the new dominant force and restarting real journalism. Right. Well, nitric oxide is a key. It's made by our own bodies again. It's made by L-citrulline and L-arginine, the amino acids. So we're fed. You can get it from beet powder and other things. The nitric oxide relaxes

1:42:12 are alive and well in the Czech Republic in a way I wasn't expecting to see. And anyway, I was... trying to piece together why this was, did the Iron Curtain protect this spirit in the Czech Republic from forces in the market that have taken it apart here at home. In any case, I was thinking about Václav Havel, the leader of the Czech Republic, and I was alerted that there was another Václav Benda, who I hadn't heard of, who actually makes this argument that the way to win this battle is to build parallel institutions. So I wonder if that's not in effect what we're watching is, okay, if the media is going to refuse to report the news, then we're going to build it outside. If the universities are going to refuse to educate inside those structures, then we're going to do it outside on the internet, right? That's what's happening is the parallel institutions are rising to displace the feeble, broken, corrupted institutions that refuse to function.

1:43:14 That's perfectly said. That's absolutely true. And they're exactly Nietzsche said that which doesn't kill you only makes you stronger. And if you look at segregation, it was a horrible crime, Jim Crow, terrible. But my dad grew up in East Texas. And he said, no, when I was a kid, the black people had better hotels or better as good a restaurants, everything because they were suppressed. They then had built their own thing. And so we're not defending those institutions. We're simply saying that because they were under communism suppression, They'd already kind of been at the bottom, then they come out of it, but they're still not Western, so they weren't infected by the neoliberal corporate mind control. And so they still had kind of that suppressed instinct of freedom left, and that was soil for it to sprout from. Absolutely. And it also means that they are in a position, potentially,

1:44:06 to save the world from what's taking place in the World Health Organization. The World Health Organization is involved in effectively rewriting the rules in preparation for some sort of pandemic rematch. That was my next question for you. Right here, Bill Gates planning, overhead shot guys real quick, that was my next question. You read my mind here, we're simpatico. Bill Gates planning for pandemic two complete with new vaccines administered from a little patch. So they're saying, Tedros is saying it's imminent, so speak to that. So the World Health Organization is cryptically

1:44:46 writing the rule set that would have allowed Goliath to win the COVID battle where Goliath ended up embarrassed by those of us on the outside exposing the lies that were being told. So they see the last four years as a war game. Well, I always say that Goliath has to be dragged onto territory that it doesn't know, but it now knows. COVID taught it what possible podcast space was it taught us what the alternative media could do. And so Goliath is now learning that lesson and Goliath is trying to build the rules that would allow it to win COVID if it had it to do over. So That's flowing through the World Health Organization. It will be voted on in May. There are two things. There is a pandemic preparedness treaty and international health regulations, and they are absolutely diabolical if you read the content of them. Oh, I've read it. It's scary. It's terrifying. And I mean, it includes,

1:45:40 insane things like the right of the World Health Organization to mandate not only vaccines, but gene therapy to redistribute medical technology. So imagine that, you know, instead of the battle over ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine that we saw that the who could just dictate that those things be moved somewhere else and you would have no access to them. So all of those rules, it's a biomedical corporate, It is. It's in it and it really looks like they're looking for a rematch. So we have to derail that thing. The chances that- By the way, you convinced Tucker of this, and I'm not saying I'm smarter than Tucker, he's smarter than me in most ways. He's like, come on, Alex. We were talking on the phone like six months ago. And when I saw him like four months, three months ago, he goes, they're not going to try it again. We just beat their ass. And I said, they want a rematch. Everything I see is it was a war game. And he now says you convinced him. Well,

1:46:32 They are looking for a rematch, but the fact is they are now faltering. Because we're on the offense exposing it. We're on the offense exposing it and folks in Eastern Europe in fact are recognizing that they are actually in a unique position. Yeah, they've got prime ministers and stuff calling them all out. Right, in Romania there is a very live resistance movement. It's all stop interrupting, continue. Well all I'm saying is... Start over, start over. Look to me Western civilization is fundamentally about an agreement to put aside our lineages, our races, and to collaborate with each other on the basis that there are things to be accomplished. And that is the magic that made America as powerful as it was in the 20th century. Goals, not race, religion. Goals. Right, exactly. Outcome. Well, let's put it this way.

1:47:24 How successful are you going to be if you have to collaborate only with people who look like you versus how successful will you be if you can collaborate with whoever has the most useful tools to bring to the table? But you've got to have shared goals. Right. If they take the goals away, now it makes it a weakness. With goals, it makes it a strength. Well, I would say those goals are values, right? If we share values and then we collaborate on how to accomplish them, that's powerful. And it made America truly great and what it is endlessly powerful so America is now compromised by whatever has taken over our political structures, but

1:47:59 Folks in Eastern Europe are now beginning to recognize that they hold the values that we once held so dear and that they're in a position to protect us from things like what's taking place in the World Health Organization. So that's what I'm hoping will happen is that they will shine, that they will rise to this challenge and they will derail this diabolical proposal to the good of all of humanity. Wow. Well, that sounds optimistic and I think it is optimistic, but what do you make Just of the cut and dry situation in Ukraine, NATO's been defeated, they're doubling down, Putin's not perfect but clearly they started the war, NATO started it from my perspective if you disagree, tell me, nine years ago.

1:48:40 And it's one thing to go blow up the Iraqis and I'm not saying Saddam was perfect, but lie about WMBs. Now you're starting a war with a highly sophisticated civilization that has a thousand year history of being invaded over and over again and doesn't give up. I mean, it's like starting a fight with Mike Tyson in his prime. It's just dumb. So what are they thinking? Well, that's always the question. You have to ask yourself the question, are they just being foolish? Or do they know something we don't know? And I also wonder about how to categorize the force that makes these decisions.

1:49:20 the United States leadership making decision after decision that is obviously terrible for the citizenry. And undermines the establishment. Right. So, is that that something has gotten into our system and is inducing us to hurt ourselves? That's possible. Is it just stupidity? That's also possible. So, when we pick a fight, you have to ask the question about whether whether there is an objective we don't know or whether this is just insanity that has taken over the system. And I really don't know the answer to that question, but I do know that the emergent part of Goliath

1:49:59 There are lots of things that can cause people to sign on to bad policy. So for example, the fact that we had warehouses full of weaponry that meant that we didn't need to buy more. If you can unload that weaponry onto a foreign battlefield, then suddenly the order's flowing. Well, that's what it is. It's a council of different different factions who will come and all just agree with each other. Okay, you want to sell more weapons, get rid of your cash, you can start World War III and not think, well, wait, he'll, and then blowing up Nord Stream. Now Europe's collapsing. Everybody knows the CIA did it. Like, why? It is scary. Yes. And I think

1:50:43 It's the kind of thing that is very difficult to accomplish if people have a normal relationship with their own mortality and their own progeny. If you love your children, you don't start World War III, even if it makes sense on a balance sheet somewhere to do it. Yes, maybe if you're in an elite position, you'll earn some money that your kids will inherit. On the other hand, you're wrecking their planet. And so that would give people pause. I think you answered the question, Doctor. For 50, 60, 70, 80 years, 100 years of the robber barons,

1:51:20 They've been hiring yes men and yes women that'll just do what they're told, but then they've graduated up to the command positions and they're yes men who aren't even war gaming things and it's a runaway train and all they're doing is is engaged in predator activity of just accumulating wealth not understanding they're undermining the very civilization that would let them spend that wealth. Well There's something at the core of this dysfunction that is about incompetence. And if you've lived inside a system, if you've been inside the university system, let's say as a scientist as I was, and you've watched that the majority of every department is composed of people who, although they are fully convinced they are engaged in behaving scientifically, are just simply not. They're not good at it. So,

1:52:13 What is it that took something as important as science and hijacked it for purposes presumably mostly economic? What is it that caused us, I mean look at what we did with the mandates to our own military. Right? We inflicted something on the military that drove out all of the people who are likely to stand up- And they turned around and say, sorry, come back. Right. But- We weren't even thinking. We don't know whether what they did was the result of massive stupidity or whether they were trying to create a compliant force. But we know it didn't work. They came back and reversed it.

1:52:53 Well, they tried to. I don't know how well that worked. You're right, it hasn't reversed the problem. I'm saying they reversed the policy. They reversed the policy, but now people are loathe to join the military because they know that such a policy can come down the pike and it can put them in a terrible All right, the 10 minutes we have left, I'm a big fan, love you on the show, love seeing other shows and people been attacking you. We kind of started with this, but maybe we should end with it about, well, this guy, you know, didn't have a perfect pedigree fighting the new world order. There's not many people out there that have been doing this 30 years like I am. There's some other great people out there that have done it as well and we love them to death. But my goal is to learn from other people

1:53:34 and then they learn from me, and then we have a consensus and we fix things. I want to win this. I don't want to sit around and say, this is the most holy of all our people, and then this person was always perfect, and this person, no, no. We need people like the doctor here who is smart, entertaining, popular, who's joined us. When Joe Rogan, known 25 years, he just wanted to have fun. He's been awake a few years, now he's more hardcore than I am. It's good for your heart, your brain, everything. It is 40% off back in stock. Bodies Ultimate Turmeric Formula. Infowarsstore.com. Bodies, an ally in the battle against inflammation. Visit Infowarsstore.com now and seize the opportunity to take control of your health. Now you know the rest of the story. Until next time, good day.

1:54:31 Tucker came here 11 years ago and said, man, I thought you were cooking wrong. I woke up. You're right. He's a big, I've influenced him. He's influenced me. I've learned my own personal power of persuasion. Not that I'm the grand poobah or the best guy around, but I've seen the power of debate. I've seen, we can win. I've seen, we can come together. I know humans are overall good, but this, this holier than thou stuff folks is a disease. and it's in the left where you've got to prescribe to every leftist ideology that's put out by some think tank and then when that's all agreed to now there's a new group wanting power over it that makes it even more radical.

1:55:10 That is a disease. Can you speak to that? Sure. Yes, I've been watching this and I'm horrified by it because I have the sense that people are fighting over credit at halftime and that they're going to screw up the game. We're going to lose it because we're fighting. They're watching the scoreboard during the game. Right. But they don't get that it's halftime. And the fact is, we all have everything to gain by leveling up together. That's what we should be doing. And for people to look at Joe Rogan or Tucker Carlson or me or you and say, oh, they're controlled opposition because they were taken in by the COVID narrative or something. Or X, just whatever. Right. The fact is,

1:55:56 A, you can start with a cynical position that says nothing anybody ever tells you is right, and yeah you will not buy any bullshit if that's where you start from, but you also won't be able to detect anything useful. You're not going to leave your house. Right. You're literally, if you just think everything is controlled, it's not folks. I'm real. Okay. I'm real. I know I've changed the world with working with you. I know there's good people. I know we can fix this. We've got to, dammit. There's not just evil. There's not just evil. No, in fact, there are great people who are interested, who share values and are putting aside ideology. And that is an incredibly powerful thing. So look, in my case, what I want,

1:56:35 is I want people to judge my whole record. Was I advocating for people to wear masks? Yeah, I was. I thought that stood a chance of actually reducing the spread of a disease that I thought was more serious than it turns out to be. Out of abundance of caution and when you learn you were wrong you went public. I changed it. So who cares? And now you're a huge advocate for truth, so who cares? Well, look, there was a little bit of harm done by people wearing masks as a result of my advocating for them. but there was a lot of good done by A, people watching me wake up to the foolishness of the mask. But doctor, that's what the globalists fear, whistleblowers. They fear people that at first were a little wrong. And if we don't embrace powerful, smart people like you when they join the awakening, no one else is going to do it. Right, exactly. And so just all I would say is for all of us, just judge us based on the net impact we have had.

1:57:29 There's no way that this is a limited hangout when we are doing damage to Goliath's narrative. We are revealing what he wants people to believe. I go to the grocery store, I go to church, I see family and they go, oh we love that professor, that doctor, that Dr. Brett Weinstein, man he's really great. You're people, you're a smart guy, you're entertaining, you're great. You can talk about any subject. You're a great guy and this is something I want to say. I always sat back on air for 30 years in April and said I don't think I myself was the best and I'm doing this trying to do this. I said where are all these professional men and women I know and that I see that I know are smart and know what's going on what because they were asleep or they were only focused with blinders on you know kind of a wormhole a tunnel vision on what they were doing but I believe and I've said this for 25 years

1:58:20 that once things got bad we would get the professors and the scientists and the researchers on our side and when it starts to happen and the avalanche is to us we just literally beat the hell out of big pharma their stocks going straight down no one's taking their crap we're winning and then we turn into this this, this like Spanish inquisition or something going around to find out if somebody's a heretic or were they perfect folks, the big win is here. We have got to stop because they're ready for a rematch. They're coming in for another attack. We better get together and we better stop it. Yeah. And it is the result in part of this very unfortunate fact, which is the people who are independent minded,

1:59:03 the lone wolves who actually do see through things early are often not very good at teaming up. And it's something that- It's a paradox because, you know, collectivists are very good at teaming up but then a central system can pay them and do it. Whereas independent people are some of the best thinkers but they'll never want to team up. Right. So how do you deal with that paradox? Well, I mean, look, I think a lot of this is solved metaphorically. And what I do is I think in terms of the stories in which We all appreciate this, you know, the Lord of the Rings or the ragtag fugitive fleet from Battlestar Galactica. And the point is, look, maybe you don't start out with that skill set, but you can develop that skill set. And if you think about it, just quietly to yourself for a moment, you'll realize that the only way we're going to win is if we figure out who to team up with and how to do it.

1:59:59 So, anyway, that's a skill we can develop and we should be working on it every day because, as Alex just said, the victory is there to be had, but we are going to end up going out of the frying pan and into the fire if we don't figure out how to overcome our tendency to attack each other. The time we've got, let's talk about the paradox of Elon Musk. Look, I've got Elon's number. I don't mean literally. I mean, I can see the cut of his jib. He's a scientist. He's a promoter. He's a salesman. He's a really smart guy. He has incredible energy. And he wants to dominate every scientific development that's out there. He wants to be the Spradley Sprockets of George Jetson world. And

2:00:45 He's all over the place. The enemies of humanity have been very good at dividing and conquering us. But if we simply start thinking about things according to the definition of is it pro-human or is it anti-human, we start to win. And that's why I had the idea for Team Humanity. I brought it up to Elon Musk. He loved the idea. What would you call the debate and discussions about a pro-human future? Just Team Humanity? Yeah, Team Humanity. Absolutely. And so we have the t-shirt, Team Humanity with a Nuclear Family, standing against the globalists. This shirt is a great conversation starter, but it also is a fundraiser to keep InfoWars on the air so we can promote and support Team Humanity. I want to thank you all for your past support, but I want to encourage you all now to understand

2:01:25 that this is a revolution against the globalists, that it is so critical now to signal the fact that you are part of Team Humanity. We're told humans are the problem. We're told we're killing the earth. We're told all this garbage so we hate ourselves and stand down and roll over and die. We're not going to do that. Get your Team Humanity shirts now at mfullworthstore.com. And I thank you all for your support. But as they mess with him and go after him and try to shut down his companies and make him bend and be their minion, He's come out against them and has, has done a lot to free up X has done a lot with his own account, reaching hundreds of millions a day to do good work. So I can sit there and say, that's good work. Now, do I know all his motives? You know? No. I mean, I, I know myself, I'm a good person, but I have an evil side too. And I sometimes go, are you really being a good person? So I can't judge Elon Musk when I even have problems judging myself sometimes because I'm like 90% good, but also, you know, you have a subconscious that goes on there, but.

2:02:23 This idea that Elon Musk is working for the establishment, as you point out, there's a lot of different factions that are battling over the levers of control. I just don't see as fair. And then, okay, say we don't trust Elon, we got to see what he does long term, judge a tree by its fruits. But then don't spend 90% of your time saying Elon's a shill, Elon's a fraud. say okay we don't totally trust improvise a redefined print but boost all the great stuff he's doing because I look at what he's doing and it's in raising the EU they're trying to indict him he's got all these drug stories and all these attacks I've been through this but on a smaller scale he's getting Trump Ian level hate now the the globalist the corrupt illegitimate

2:03:12 Incompetence do not like him. Okay. You can't fake that. And so I see a huge opportunity here. We could lose Musk when he's trying to jump to our camp, if we don't embrace him. Now, if he does something wrong later, we go, Hey, wait, but if we don't, he's trying to jump to us is what I see. And if we don't grab him, he's not ours. Does that make sense? Yeah. And I would add two things to it. One, Assuming that his story is accurate, that he was injured by the mRNA shot. And a family member. Right. That tells you... Two of Joe Rogan's crew, he told me who. That's an old story. That's two... A whole... Two of people close to Joe, I mean close, had strokes after it. Right. So... I'm sorry I'm interrupting, go ahead. No, no. But my point would be this. If Elon got the shot and was hurt,

2:04:06 then he's not on the list of people who was in the know about the danger of that shot. Exactly, he said that happened, I believe him. Right, I believe him too. So my point is, this is incompatible with him being, you know, some 4D chess shill. If that story is true, then the point is, he's not on their team. He's at least sometimes on our team. you know he got he was victimized. Yeah he was on their team earlier because he was buying he was buying the chili now he's like what the hell. Right. His brother got super sick he got sick. Yeah but the second thing. That'll wake you up. Like nothing else right they literally injected something into you that makes you makes you ill but the other thing is what he's done with Twitter

2:04:53 And believe me, there's plenty of fault left in Twitter. But what he's done is he has created an outpost of at least much freer speech. And we say on our podcast, zero is a special number. What we mean by that is that you can change these games by simply creating a single entity that departs from the rule. If you have one platform on which you can say what needs to be said, then every other platform has to follow suit because nobody's going to want to be on a platform where they treat you like a child if there's a platform where you can be an adult. Same thing goes for universities. If you have one university that's actually teaching you to think more clearly, then nobody wants to go to any other. It'll change the whole paradigm. It changes the whole game. Same thing goes for newspapers. And so anyway, my point is Twitter,

2:05:41 X is better than it was. It is a maverick and it's got infiltrators. He bought this mess. He's done better than I thought he would. Right, he's done better than you would think he would. And what that tells you is he's not, I don't know how complex the chess board that he's looking at is, but he can't be totally on their team because he's created a space where Tucker Carlson can say what needs to be said. I'm not a rocket scientist or a biologist like you, but They look the hates legitimate. He's creating waves that even if they kill him tomorrow God forbid or shut it down It's already devastated him folks

2:06:17 Listen to me, I've been on air 30 years if I've steered you wrong. He's creating irrevocable harm to them. Like you said, this is real. It chills. Yeah, I think it is real and I think we don't know who's working for whom. So the best we can do is say who is actually doing this. And he doesn't. Imagine his job, double, triple agents, the betrayals. I can't imagine the complexity of what he has to look at. Right, it's mind boggling and we all of us who have never been in his shoes, which is frankly all of us, can't appreciate that level of complexity. So we owe it to him to at least give him the benefit of the doubt.

2:06:53 Let's just see what happens. Absolutely. All right. Thank you so much for the time. Amazing doctor. Is there anything else you want to add to people? Yeah. There's one other thing, which is obviously I take a risk by coming here. I appreciate what you do. Oh, I recognize that. You got a lot of courage. You're, you're painted a big ass target on you. Right. But I want to make the point that my ability to be here is something that was carved out by Joe Rogan and Tucker Carlson, who, took that risk first and I appreciate their carving out the ability to have this discussion because at the end of the day I believe you are a patriot and a very important force in this battle and... Well thank you, elaborate for people that don't know the specifics. Explain what you mean they carved it out. Well, they were willing at the point that it was treated as unforgivable to talk to you, they did it anyway. But it was heresy.

2:07:48 Heresy, that's a good way of putting it. And so in any case, I appreciate their courage and their willingness to risk their operations. They didn't have to do that, but they did it because it was the right thing. And it did make it possible for us smaller fish to follow suit. And let's explain that. In this paradox where they created this artificial Alex Jones, 10% of it was my fault. I did do some things that were wrong, but most of it was blown up, exaggerated, all controlled. But if Alex Jones is put up there as the symbol of evil, If he's allowed speech, everybody else is safe. And they speak of NATO, I don't know if you saw the document, but NATO said six years ago, we're going to ban Jones and we're going to ban Winky Leaks. And once we do that, well, everybody will follow suit. We'll ban it all. So they admitted that, I'm not that important, but I became important when they picked me as the symbol of demonization.

2:08:37 and thought no one would stand with me. And now that Joe did, and Elon, and you came here knowing full well what you're doing, it's not that we agree on everything or any of that, unless you get the proviso out, even though we agree on most stuff, they'll lie about something I said and say, do you agree with this? It's about agreeing to have a conversation and rediscovering what makes us great. So one more time, tell us about your book, tell us how we follow you on Rumble and on Locals, Dr. The book is a hunter-gatherers guide to the 21st century. You can get it anywhere. The podcast is Dark Horse. That's one word. Dark and horse are capitalized. Find us on Rumble and please sign up. That helps us find our locals community, Dark Horse locals community. And please follow me on Twitter at Brett Weinstein. Brett has one T.

2:09:26 I bet the folks at the university jealous of you and your very successful wife that was the most successful professor there. If they weren't thinking one dimensionally, they'd have kept you around. But I bet they're not happy they drove you off the reservation. Well, they drove almost all the students away to their struggling to keep the shut down. I heard. I was expecting it to shut down earlier. The state infused the college with a lot of cash to keep it running, but they just simply don't have enough students to justify it. So what happened to the guy that was gunning for you? He stepped down. They literally... So see, he didn't think of that. It's a Pyrrhic victory. He got you, but he's gone. He's gone. But they, interestingly, they couldn't hire a replacement. They had to hire somebody from inside the college because literally nobody would take the job after he wrecked the place.

2:10:14 Which is why war isn't good. People think of war as just military. No, war is messing with people for no reason just because he gives you power. Yeah. Instead of that another university, right? It'd be even bigger now. Right? No, the degree to which they had a college that was special and it could have been turned into something amazing and very popular and instead they destroyed it. It is actually, it is a cautionary tale. It is a metaphor for Earth today. Exactly. We're going to end this with the video or the footage of the great Rod Serling's

2:10:50 Planet of the Apes ending scene with the late, great Charlton Heston when he learns he's actually back on Earth and they blew it all up. Let's not go there. Doctor, very impressive. I'm a big fan and I love meeting you in person. Thank you so much, sir. Thank you. All right, folks. Great job of the crew coming in on Super Bowl Sunday. And wow, more impressed in person. This guy is awesome. Anybody saying he's a bad guy, you're just jealous. Thank you, Alex. That's true. Ladies and gentlemen, New Year's 2024 is here. We've just got six days left for storewide free shipping, double Patriot points and new products and like foundational energy and info war store dot com.

2:11:35 While other networks lie to you about what's happening now, InfoWars tells you the truth about what's happening next. Visit InfoWars.com forward slash show and share the link today. Economist PhD Kirk Elliott is in studio with us. Dr. Elliott is a great guy, just does a great job and our listeners love him. I love him too. And so I asked him, he lives in Colorado, to come here when he was on a few weeks ago, when we can do a Saturday commercial free broadcast and be able to really, really drill into the deep dive on what the real economic numbers are versus what Biden's telling us and what he and other experts believe the trends are and where we're going. We'll then intersperse it and tie it into all the news and other breaking information as we go for the next few hours or so and then

2:12:26 former Green Beret commander and lawyer and defense intelligence agency operative. Ivan Raiklin was on yesterday, live in studio. He was in a toboggan accident with his kids and blew his leg out. He was in a wheelchair. He traded punches with me, that almost knocked, you know, some bitch kicks like a mule. And we were war gaming, what if they kill Trump? And that's what you do in the military. I'm not in the military, but I studied this for 30 years. So I'm in the same, you know, bailiwick. That's why I came up with Infowars. We were war gaming what if they killed Trump and how it would blow up in their face and how horrible it would be, which will make them not kill him. And it got picked up out of context. And I mean, I think this morning I looked around like 5 million views, different versions of it's probably 10 million now. Alex Jones wants Trump dead. And then even some conservatives

2:13:15 bought into that because they saw a 30 second clip. Folks, that is, okay, Secret Service, come get me. No, we were saying you kill Trump like Obi-Wan Kenobi, he gets more powerful than you can possibly imagine. They shouldn't do that. And that's been war game. Just like I could tell them, don't indict Trump a bunch for stuff he didn't do. It'll make you more popular. I mean, that's not rocket science, folks. Look, In the 1970s, they had total control. This is just culture in Nashville over country music. And then four or five people, Waylon Jennings, Willie Nelson, a few others, Chris Christopherson moved to Austin, Texas.

2:13:53 And they said, screw you, we're doing our own music. And it totally changed that whole industry. And by the mid 1980s, five or six outlaw country artists had a bigger market than all of Nashville. You're like, well, who cares about that? Well, it's the same for culture and politics and freedom. Joe Rogan's the most popular and Tucker Carlson and everybody sounds like Alex Jones now because it's the truth. And Elon Musk sounds like Alex Jones now because It's the truth and it's popular. So we were explaining that Trump is seen as the outlaw of the system, you know, the Dukes of Hazzard, just some good old boys, never doing no harm, but in trouble, the losses, they were born. This is some point about, okay, Willie Nelson is a great guy, I've been friends with him for decades. This is about culturally on something that matters. We're breaking through and we're winning. It's like,

2:14:44 something like half the main hit movies now, like 48% I was seeing in a big variety or Hollywood Reporter article a few months ago is Christian movies. Hollywood's dying, but Christian movies are exploding. So we're here saying we're winning the culture war. It doesn't look like that if you just tune into MSNBC. So we've got a lot of potential to rebuild things. We're very close. So when I give you all this negative information and scary information, it's like a roadmap. You know, kind of like you go to the beach one day and it's 50 mile an hour winds. They got red flags up and say rip tide, don't get in the water. It's not a negative scary thing. It's saying, you know, it's not safe. You know, people need to know what we're navigating. So Dr. Kirk Elliott, thank you so much for flying down here.

2:15:27 I'm glad you're only a few hours away by planes. You can be here. The listeners love you. I'm just having like a 30 minute prelude to all of this. Where do you want to start? Because you've got a lot of preparation. You sent us a lot of documents. I love guests like you that really get your preparation together. Well, there's so much Alex and just since the last time that I was here, We talked about bank failures coming. And I said, I think we're gonna have bank failures 2.0. So with bank failures 2.0, what did I mean about that? Well, we're seeing regional bank stocks just getting crushed, absolutely crushed. So I was doing some research and Zero Hedge did a great article, Alex, about this. And so if you look at the bank stocks, Azora Bank,

2:16:17 Cratering, falling off a cliff. Western Alliance Bank Corp getting, the article says being clubbed like a baby seal. Oh my word. Shares of Zions Bank Corp, Comerica, Webster Financial, they're tumbling. Citizens Financial, Regions Financial, South State, Prosperity Banksters, Schwab. Schwab! This is not a regional bank. Good grief. So their shares are just crushing. They're falling off a cliff. So when you look at that, now what? So I think what we saw in

2:16:54 What we saw with Silicon Valley Bank, Alex, what we saw with Credit Suisse, what we saw with all of those bank failures that we saw last spring, we're starting to see this again. Now, the reason that this is important is why are they crumbling? It was in response to the Fed. The Fed has promised, like we talked about on previous shows here, that 2024 was going to be different. We've had all these rate increases over the last year and a half on interest rates to slow down inflation. And what did they say? They said 2024, we've basically tackled the inflation problem, right? We're winning this battle and so we're going to start doing rate reductions. And that was my, I'm going to get to that later, but I want you to drill in the numbers. Inflation is not conquered.

2:17:42 No, sorry, just keep going though. No, so so there's okay, so there's two ways it's important for the viewer to understand this there's two reasons why you want to look at inflation inflation can go up because the economy is growing and it can sustain higher prices and people's wages are going up and so therefore retailers can charge more and blah blah blah or inflation can go up simply because they're printing money like there's no tomorrow. So what the Fed and the Biden administration is saying, inflation is good, it means the economy is growing. I just saw a video of Jerome Powell a couple days ago stating, look, the economy has never been better. Inflation means that the economy is growing and you've got jobs that are increasing. I've got so much- And then Yellen separately went, Americans need to get,

2:18:32 know that prices aren't going down. So they're kind of double talking. They're completely double talking, but they're using the definition of inflation that talks about a growing economy, not looking at the definition of inflation that just is simply an increase in the money supply to provide stimulus to everything. There is no growth in that and I've got documents here that prove that. So what happened? So last week they decided, hey we're going to actually just pause interest rates for the fourth time in a row rather than starting to reduce them. Which tells us what? It tells us they know they haven't won this battle against inflation. And just a month ago they said they were going to lower them to kind of create a stock market run. Correct.

2:19:13 Because in an election year, they want the stock market to boom. Now I still think that they're gonna lower interest rates probably once so they can try to save face Alex and say, look, we told you we're gonna lower them, so we did. But there's no possible way that I think that we're gonna go throughout this year without rate increases because there's problems that they haven't tackled. Number one is there's more stimulus, more spending. They're spending like drunken sailors. and we're gonna address that. Number two, the BRICS nations. rising up, taking away demand for the US dollar by trading in their own currencies with 70% of the world's population, part of the BRICS nations now. So the demand for the petrol dollar is gone, which means there's no capital inflow into America, which means what? When we have debt ceiling, when we have entitlements, when we have Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, women, infant, children programs, food stamps, infrastructure, Department of Defense, everything.

2:20:13 There's no inflow of capital, which means they're going to have to print money like there's no tomorrow. So here's the problem. We've got, they didn't lower rates because they can't, because they haven't tackled inflation. Their policies tell us that that's the case. So what happened to these regional bank shares? They start collapsing. Why? Because they needed interest rates to come down because they're facing delinquencies. When you have a series of delinquencies, you go into default. So people aren't paying off their loans. This is a problem. And so what I see coming, and this article was great because there isn't all just regional banks in this. Schwab, Alex, that's huge, one of the largest

2:20:58 investment firms in the world, they're on this list of their shares just being clubbed, right? And so what's this gonna mean to the US population? When they see that what should be the safest asset in the world, their bank account is no longer safe because banks are undercapitalized and possibly gonna have another bank run. What happens to society, the fabric of society when you start to have bank runs, right? and people don't think that- And explain, there's major stress bigger than we had in 2008. Way more stress because we have way more debt. Banks are way more undercapitalized now than they were then. And I know you're gonna walk through all this, but just humor me here. I'm not a rocket scientist, but I've studied history. When you get the type of inflation, where do you think inflation really is? And then they're trying to deny it, but it wrecks Americans, but for poor people in the third world, it's a death sentence. I mean, what's that gonna do? Well, it's...

2:21:55 Inflation really impacts people living at the margin. So when people are living hand-to-mouth paycheck to paycheck, if you lose or miss one to two paychecks and you probably have to file for bankruptcy, these are the people that inflation hits the most. Most of America is living in that at the margin threshold. I've seen the USA article. 67% of Americans are in debt and living paycheck to paycheck. Yeah, two-thirds. Two-thirds of America. So when you have this this quagmire, you've got rising prices, you've got rising taxes, you've got rising cost of borrowing. That's the kiss of death. That's a recipe for disaster. And this is exactly what's happening under Bidenomics. Now, you also have recession is looming, Alex, because if you hear what Biden is saying, he's saying we're having a renaissance in manufacturing in America.

2:22:51 A renaissance. We're creating jobs. We're booming the economy. The economy- And all I see is homeless people everywhere. Everywhere. Absolutely everywhere. But the numbers don't add up to that. The reality is not true. So there's a manufacturing index that talks about jobs. I'm gonna find it here. I've got a bunch of stuff. So what does that index say? This index says, And it was reported by Peter Schiff, and I love a lot of his stuff. Dark ages for the US housing and manufacturing. So, the manufacturing index shows that 18 out of the past 20 months,

2:23:35 The index has been negative, meaning manufacturing jobs have been going away. 18 out of the last 20 months, Alex. So the real number is they're going straight down. He says they're doing great. He says they're doing good. And that's a lot of jobs that are being lost. Manufacturing jobs are the bread and butter. to the US economy. So what happens when people aren't working? People aren't going to be able to afford to buy houses. So what we're seeing here is a precursor to recession in the manufacturing jobs, meaning recession in the housing market, and that's going to be amplified, literally an amplified recession, which basically means depression coming,

2:24:14 economic depression when the housing market is going to collapse because rising interest rates means people can't afford to buy their houses and you've got lowering wages. So do this for me in the next hour we're going to roll through all the technicals, all the facts, all the graphs you sent me, all the documents, but just as an American citizen, as an economist, somebody that does this for a living, I know we don't know perfectly where it's going to go or what to predict, but This doesn't look well. I mean, hopefully we get Trump in, he can do some things to try to turn it around. But the BlackRock and the Globalists say we're not open for business. Biden last week just killed liquid natural gas sales from the US, which was our only main export. I mean, it's like holding our head underwater is what it looks like to me. Am I wrong? No, you're 100% right. I mean, so this- Our one main export he's killing.

2:25:08 Yeah, and to me this reeks of punitive damages on Texas, right? I think so. Well that leaked out of the White House. It was just yeah. Yeah, so WhiteHouse.gov if you go to the White House, you can see their fact sheet. I've got it right here. The Biden-Harris administration announced temporary pause on pending approvals of liquefied natural gas exports. Okay, so what does that mean in layman's terms? He just put economic sanctions on Americans and US companies to basically harass them. I don't want to just glaze over this. I didn't even know that was in your stack. You gave me a whole other stack here. The magnitude, folks, let's just dig in. The lifeblood is fertilizer, food, and energy. Machines eat energy. Machines eat gas and oil and coal. Okay, the windmills are like 10% or nothing.

2:26:00 And when you do that, that's directly the real economy. So when you cut off energy sales and you say you can't increase generation at your coal plants in the hot summer or the winter, which they've done, and you were going to ban all your gas ranges, and we're going to be there literally, if you want to strike people, that's what you do. Because that's the real money, right? That's the real currency. Yeah, so they basically said in this fact sheet from the White House, it's like because we want to tackle climate change, we're going to put a temporary pause on pending approvals of liquefied natural gas. So like you said, Alex, what are we good at in America?

2:26:37 We're good at a lot of things, but what we're really, really good at is oil and gas. We're number one. We're number one. And especially in Texas. So it's like you're in a football game with Brady, you know, three, four years ago, he's winning the Super Bowl, and they say, you know, we're gonna pull Brady out here at the Super Bowl. Just we're gonna pull him out. I mean, that's basically what they're saying, but here's where this is, the timing of this seems really bizarre to me. Because they've been talking about climate change forever, right? But so why bring it out a few days after the big border crisis when Texas is going after the feds and they're all fighting with each other at the border and so what does Biden say said hey, we're going to pause exports of LNG liquefied natural gas to Asia to Europe so you can't export it anywhere. Well, this is an elite fighting itself.

2:27:24 It's absolutely that and so what is this going to mean? To me, what he just did is economic sanctions on Americans for really the first time that I can think of. That should be the headline instead of sanctions on Iran or Russia or China, this is, well they put gas, natural gas sanctions on Putin two years ago. They're literally put the same sanctions on Texas they put on Putin. Yeah, I mean you've been following this stuff for decades Alex. What usually economic sanctions are basically reserved for political stuff during, you know, against a rogue terrorist nation like Iran, like Russia, or whatever. But on our own people? Well this shows where they're going with the social credit scores. BlackRock saying we'll control behavior. They're like, oh, you're not doing what we say? We'll just cut your main export off. I mean, it's so criminal. It's so ridiculous. It is. So imagine, okay, so everything we're talking about is inflation. They're gonna have to print more money. Do you think

2:28:20 jobs being lost are going to help matters? No. No, of course not. They can't buy the electric cars now because they have no money. Correct. So look at this possible scenario. So these are millions of jobs that could be lost according to a Texas oil and gas consultancy group. Millions of jobs. So you have all these people. Yeah, because we've cut Russia off, which is like, OK, that'll let the US market know. He's killed the Russian market, blown up the pipeline to Europe, and is cutting our gas off. Correct. Wow! I mean, that is like, I come to your house and you go, why is the power off? You walk out in the backyard and some dude's taking a hatchet or a club or a jackhammer to the power input to your house. You'd kick their ass. Or you'd call the police. Right.

2:29:06 Yeah, so get a load of this. So if people aren't working, what are they going to do? First response is they're going to go to the government and say, I need unemployment benefits of some sort. I need Medicare. I need Medicaid. I need food stamps. So it's cloud and pivot, collapse the system. Yeah. So they go to the government for help. And what happens when you have all these manufactured layoffs, right? Whether it's in in manufacturing like we're seeing oil and gas up tech stocks tech companies are laying people off hand over fist for a different reason but yet same result people aren't working so what happens when people don't work there's no income tax revenues for the government when people don't work they're not spending money which means sales tax revenues come down. So what are they really doing? Well they're actually creating

2:29:56 a pandora's box where people aren't working they're going to the government for benefits and the government is losing its revenue streams because people aren't working there's no just like us pushing russia into war made people join the brinks our government is even destroying themselves they're destroying themselves and to what end I think if you start connecting the dots Alex like you're really really good at you start to see what is their end game. I think their end game is to collapse the financial system because then people will look to them and say hey this is so broken. People aren't necessarily going to look at them as the reason why it collapsed. They're just going to look at something collapse and say, fix it. We'll give you anything. We'll give up our freedoms. We'll give you this. We'll give you that. And Klaus Schwab has said, they'll never know we did it. Build back better, great reset. And then they want to make it so bad, we then go to them. Yes. And what's their solution? What are they going to bring to the table?

2:30:53 This is the biggest thing I think of this generation because it's a change in the monetary system globally that has been in place since 1944 in Bretton Woods when the US dollar was the world's reserve currency. That power has shifted to the east. World's reserve currency I believe now is going to be the BRICS nations. Exactly. So what are they bringing in? Central bank digital currency. Is that going to fix a system? Does it fix inflation? No. It's actually easier to create digital money than it is to create paper money. But it brings control. But it brings absolutely control. This is all about people control. And if you create a system where everybody is scared, where everybody is fearful, where they can't make their payments,

2:31:58 and say hey government we will give up our financial freedom, we'll give up our financial privacy for this and in result what do you get? Spyware in your bank account literally. You get ideological based spending. behaviors where they will cut you off from buying or selling if your ideology doesn't match up. And BlackRock says they're gonna do that. They said, not just BlackRock, World Economic Forum, Bank for International Settlements, the IMF, the Federal Reserve, the European Central Bank. I always wonder why are they so... Like they'll lie on the news and say none of this is happening but if you tune into the UN or the WF they admit it all. You'll eat bugs, we're taking your kids, we're gonna bankrupt everybody, you're gonna live in a 200 square foot of coffin apartment. Why do they at one level say it's not happening for the general public but at their meetings they're I guess to act powerful in front of the other leaders and just normalize it? I guess they have to do, I've answered my own question, they have to normalize it in front of the world leaders and act a confidence game. But then for the general public they go well they're just plebs don't tell them.

2:32:57 Well, I think so and why would they actually say these extraordinary things and people not fight back? Maybe it's because people don't realize that it actually is that bad. Maybe they think, ah, this could never happen. Oh, they said five years ago, you will eat bugs. Now, something like five companies own 80% of the food, and whether it's Tyson chicken or anything, the breading on your chicken now, folks, is cricket protein. They did it. You say, oh, y'all never do that? Oh, yeah, you are. I've caught myself buying stuff because I shopped some of the groceries, and I'm like, holy crap, that's got bug protein. It's got little codes on it. They don't even... Oh, my God. It's just sick.

2:33:39 Do you like bugs? No, I mean, well, you know, chitin is very toxic. Bug protein is not good for you. Not that I'm a health dev, but I can read. I mean, it's bad. Yeah. My point is you're absolutely right. They're doing it. They are doing it. And see, sometimes normalcy bias will kill people's portfolios because they- Explain what normalcy bias is. It means if something hasn't happened to you in the past, it's not going to happen to you in the present or in the future. People get used to things. It's like, oh, we've had financial crisis before. Look at 2000, look at 2009, we recovered. Look at our loss of freedoms like we had during Patriot Act, for example. Well, what did that mean? Well, we're still here, we're still okay. Some people say, ah, things happen and it's all going to be just fine in the end. Like in investing, it's kind of like,

2:34:32 you know, buy and hold forever, right? Things are always going to go up forever. No, they don't. In the long haul, sure. Is the stock market, for example, greater than it was in 2009? Yep. Is it bigger than it was in 2010? But it's following inflation. It's following inflation. And there's a better way to do things because if you have an 80% correction like we saw in 2000 when the tech stocks blew, it took like nine years to recover from that. Do you think it would be smarter to kind of watch those intermediate trends, buy low, sell high, lock in those profits, and then not wait nine years to recover? Well, we know in 2000 and 2008, the globalists got out before too. Yes, they did. And 2000, yeah, so that happened in 2009. This time, I think it's significantly fundamentally different because if you look at 2000- You can feel it's the big one. You just can because 2000, what was it? Tech stocks.

2:35:26 It was a sector-based... No, now they're attacking food, energy, they're deliberately suppressing every sector. Every, every sector. And security, defunding police. I mean, they are really... borders, wars, political warfare. All of it. And in 2009, what was that? That was subprime lending. That was a sector of the total stock market, right? This time, what is this one? This big bubble is a debt-based bubble, which what in our society is funded by debt? Everything. Alex, the stock market- We're coming to the end. I'm going to shut up. You're making so many great points. I'm just backing you up. Doc, speak to this. The bubble we're at, why it's the mega bubble, and then also, you're a great sponsor. Young's the listeners, love you. You're really smart. I should also say, you've got great gold and silver bullion at great prices, ready to ship to people. We're so blessed to get you. And then I'm like, wow, you're a great talk show. I already knew who you were for years. Please come in here with us. But we also need to also get people prepared and support the broadcast, support what you're doing.

2:36:25 Well, thanks for that. But you know, here's how you got to be made to plug your company. So yeah, let's just stop now for a minute and plug your company and then let's get back into the mega bubble we've hit. Okay, so before Before we get to the big bubble, there is a solution for everybody that's watching. To me it's how do you get away from central bank digital currency? You don't want to be a digital slave in their digital world. Tangible assets like gold and silver, perfect for that. How do you get away from a banking crisis that I believe, banking crisis 2.0 is coming where banks are going to fail? Get out of the banks. Don't have too much money in the banks.

2:37:01 But what do you go into if the stock market's overvalued, if the bonds are getting crushed because interest rates are going up? Tangible assets like gold and silver. When you have something that's real, when you have something that's tangible, that you can take delivery of, Alex, this is where safety comes in. This is actually right now at this time in history where growth comes in. And when you can have safety and growth at the same time, it's incredible. Now, Here's the big problem not all gold and silver created equal Right, so if you're watching and you say, I've heard gold and silver ads everywhere. On every single podcast in the Patriot world, I've seen gold and silver ads. Okay, there's only a few things that you should buy. It's bullion. So in silver, 100 ounce bars, 10 ounce bars, one ounce silver rounds from the refineries. In gold, one ounce gold bars or kilo bars, that's it. When you have

2:37:56 coins, rare stuff, collectible stuff, things with a story. They're always high premiums. I mean, I just saw an invoice from another company, from a client who showed it to us, over $900 an ounce for silver. It should be $28 an ounce for crying out loud. It's like this is- No, no, that's why people ask why I've not had a gold or silver sponsor in a decade when Minus Resources got out of the business who I've been with for, you know, since like, 1996 they were a good company. I couldn't find any they would promise me and say we're gonna sell gold and silver bullion. We got a few numismatics people that want those that's a secondary pitch and then soon as I saw it I would call and have and they were pitching me numismatics over price right away and I'd say that's it we're not doing this that's why it has and but now the market's exploding I literally prayed

2:38:46 about a year ago, God give me a real gold and silver sponsor that just gives them a decent fee to pay your bills and gives them a great deal. And so that's why I love your company and we're getting great reviews from listeners. There's two keys to investing, right? Number one is be in the right place at the right time and number two never overpay for your stuff. And then as a seller you want to do a thousand transactions. It's like marrying a woman. You want to love her and take care of her and have a relationship. That's how I am with my customers. I don't want to rape them one time, you know. I mean it's bullcrap. Yeah it is and you never... I mean our philosophy as a company is to have a lifetime relationship with our clients because I'm a relationship kind of guy. So when we can hold a client's hand through the economy, let them know when it's time to buy, sell, reallocate, get out of dodge, do whatever needs to be done, you have to have something that's liquid. Okay? So this is an important key in gold and silver. So most companies out there, when you look,

2:39:44 When you look at their invoices, and if you're out there and you've purchased from them, a lot of them that I'm seeing, $60, $70 an ounce for silver, over $3,000 an ounce for gold. It's like, are you kidding me? See, those kind of things, you have to make a market for them. So what does that mean? When it's time to buy or sell, and we've all seen this, we've all experienced it. So you'll get a call from a gold and silver dealer and they'll say, hey Jane Doe, have I got a deal for you. We just found this like old carriage that tipped over in Nevada way back in the day and there's these gold coins from it and boy, they're rare and they're amazing and we can get them to you but they're not gonna last long. They're gonna be gone in 72 hours so you have to act now and we'll give you 5% off, right? Something silly like that. I mean, that means also when you need to liquidate them and lock in profits,

2:40:38 the same thing. They have to make a market for it. They have to find somebody else that wants to buy those things because there's not a ready-made market for those. See, when we at our firm, we deal in bullion, which is a global commodity. It's used for manufacturing. So when we want to lock in a price, we simply call the depository, we lock in the price, And then in a very short period of time, we wire the funds into your account. But the key is the transaction is done immediately. It's automatic, right? Because it's a global commodity. There's always demand for it. Whether it's India or China or something where their currencies are out of favor and they need gold or silver or for manufacturing like Sony, Samsung, Tesla, LG wanting to buy silver for manufacturing, there's always a market for it. So key to investing,

2:41:29 Never buy something you have to make a market for because it could be illiquid. Always buy something where there's a ready-made market for it. This is what we focused on for the beginning of our company. I've been doing this since 2002. That's a long time, Alex. I've been doing this since 2002. And I've never seen a client that's actually overcome those high premiums and those things, like ever. I've been doing this for a long time. But in bullion it's more of a an immediate answer to when you wanna lock in profits boom it's done because the market is there globally because it's a manufacturing metal. Now if any of you out there watching feel like oh my word dr kirk i think i've been ripped off.

2:45:08 Well, my damn good job once I made you do it. I mean my goal is to help people right and so so news is part of that but but It's simple you you just go to K EPM comm forward slash gold fill out a little form say I heard Kirk and Alex talking it's like that made a lot of sense and You just put in some of your information one of my team. I've got a a bajillion schedulers, not a bajillion, like 20, I don't know. We have a lot of staff to make sure that your needs are met, right? So you'll answer some questions like, what was it that caused you to want to reach out? What are you trying to accomplish? What are your goals? What are your dreams? What are your fears? We listen.

2:45:47 to you and then we will get you scheduled with one of our consultants where we'll map out a strategy for success moving forward using precious metals, bullion, gold and silver, none of those high-grade stuff. And like I talked about, if you have some of those high-grade collectible pieces of junk which they are, well then we can help you unwind that most of the time and get you into a place of prosperity. You can at least give them the best deal they can really get. The best deal and sometimes the damage is done. I mean, I talked to an 80 year old lady once who, she's way too old, unsuitable transaction, paid over $70,000 an ounce for a piece of gold. It's like, what? How in the world are you ever gonna get out of this, right? But most people aren't to that extreme. They aren't to that extreme.

2:46:32 But with you it's simple. They can look at the spot gold and call you up and wow, it's that. Yeah, and this is what we do. Whether you have an IRA, a non-IRA, you want to take delivery of it at home or have it stored because you don't feel safe with it at home. What we're talking about is a physical asset though, not paper, not a paper proxy, not an ETF, not any of that. And by the way, the work is all on your side. That's why these other companies too want to make the quick buck. They're also lazy. There's a lot of work goes into what you do. A lot, but the client isn't going to see. They're not going to see any of that. We want to make the transition easy and the burden light. Now you have to fill out a couple forms, right, to move the assets from one IRA to another. But my team will do all of the heavy lifting, the light lifting, and the lifting in between. But when it's done,

2:47:16 When that's done and the funds are moved, then it gets way easier. Well, this is where a relationship begins. That's not the end of the story. From that point, we want to hold your hand through the economy, and we'll let you know when it's time to buy, sell, reallocate. Get out of silver, go into gold. Get out of gold, go into silver. Right now you're saying silver. Right now it's silver. Massively, 100% pointed into silver. I'm not in gold yet. It's not that I dislike gold. I love it, but silver's outperforming. It's just so much more bullish. It is because it's manufacturing again. It's used way more in construction, right, or manufacturing? In manufacturing, I mean, it's used in electronics. It's used in fuel cell technology. It's used in solar. You know, this is where we can take some of the globalist green agenda and

2:48:01 and say, all right, what do they need for their EV and their solar stuff? And let's be honest, that is what we're doing. Like, I don't go by defense stocks, that'll be part of the murder. But when it comes to silver, this is being put into everything, so why not follow the trend? We might as well, I mean we want to be wise stewards with what God's given us. We want to buy low, sell high, be wise, have discernment and sometimes it just means thinking outside the box. What I like about you is you never say, oh gold can go to 10,000 ounce or silver to 500, but gut level just as a private person, man to man, with this inflation, it's not going, it's going to get worse. How high do you think gold and silver are in like two years?

2:48:38 Well, it's pure speculation. Yeah, I mean, I'm not God and I don't control the markets, but when you look at what silver did in 2011, 2010, 2011, it went from $12 an ounce to $48 an ounce in like a summer and a fall. I mean, that's like, what, 400% growth during that time? So similar fundamentals to what we're seeing today. Unsustainable debt, inflationary pressures, political chaos, geopolitical conflict, low inventory at the COMEX. So, so similar things you follow that historical trend. The same climate. And we, the same climate and we're starting at 20, let's call it 25. Well that should bring it to 75 to 100 in pretty short order. Now, there's, there's economists out there who are saying well with absence of manipulation you should see silver at 600 to 2,500 dollars an ounce. It's like okay, how do they come up with that number?

2:49:32 So when you look at demand, this is just how the markets work, this is how business works. So let's say that silver is extinguished at the COMEX depositories and you're Sony, Samsung, Tesla, one of the big manufacturers that need it. And you have a small amount of silver in every LCD TV, every electric vehicle, whatever you're selling that has electronics in it. Do you care what the price of silver is if you need it to finish? You'll pay whatever you need. You'll pay whatever you need. And this is where I'm not concerned about silver running out. People say, Kirk, if silver runs out, is this going to be bad for us? It's like, no, this is going to be great for us. Obviously. Because when silver runs out, which it's running

2:50:11 desperately low right now. People are worried it's going to run out, that's going to make it explode. It'll make it explode. I heard of supply and demand folks. Because yeah, let's say that you're Tesla and you say well, silver is $25 an ounce, we need it, we can't get it, we'll offer 40. Or we'll offer 80. Or we'll offer 120. They don't care because they're going to pass that on to the consumer. Right, so this is where when you own what they need and it starts to run out, which it is starting to run out. I can also read the news myself. Universities, institutions, investors, governments are hoarding the living hell out of it. They're buying it up as fast as they can and gold too. So they're also going crazy for gold. Central banks are going after gold like there's no tomorrow. So they may poo-poo gold and silver and say, oh, you want central bank digital currency, you want our paper version. We can use interest rates, we can use money creation monetary policy to stimulate the economy, slow it down, do this and that, and we're really good at it. No, you've proven over the decades that you're horrible at it, and you create boom and bust cycles, and you have these inflationary pressures, and

2:51:12 Because they're insider trading, they're riding it up and down. They don't want prosperity for the general people. No they don't, and what are the big central banks doing? They're buying gold not by the ounce or by the pound or by the ton but literally Alex by the hundreds or thousands of tons. At a time. Yeah, they're running around like chickens with their heads cut off. The Chinese Central Bank has over 5,000 tons of gold. The European Central Bank has over 10,500 tons of gold. The Fed has over 8,500 tons of gold. Russia has over a thousand tons of gold. India has over 600 tons of gold. But even like universities like UT are secretly buying it. It's come out. I think it's most if not all of their endowment fund is in gold.

2:51:55 Stored at the at the vault that the state of Texas built near Dallas. It's like wow so so what does that tell us? Yeah, why are they why is UT one of the most powerful universities in the world if not probably the biggest what are they a completely in gold for They're probably not stupid folks. No, they've got a bunch of professors there, right? And a bunch of wealthy people who understand that our global economic system is failing. Well the Chinese are doing it, right? I interrupted, go ahead. No, the Chinese are doing it too. So you said global financial system failing. I interrupted, go ahead. No, global financial system failing. So So here's where what are they saying don't listen to what they say watch what they do I mean you are so good at that Alex of telling all this news that you've got on your desk It's like don't listen what say watch what they do because actions speak louder than words so when they're buying gold by the thousands of tons

2:52:47 What does that tell us? They think it's gonna go up. But you're pitching me silver, which I get is the one that's gonna has the biggest growth rate. Why are the elites obsessed with gold? They're getting silver too, but why are they just... Because you can't really back a currency with silver because it's not high enough cost per ounce. Gold, gold. So they're betting in a new system it's going to be gold. Yeah, but here's where I want more gold down the road. So if we leverage silver right now because it's outperforming. You get the money for gold. So here's the thing, let's say here's our strategy that we implement with all of our clients. We go into silver now because it's outperforming. Let's say that over the next 18 to 24 months silver triples the rate of growth of gold.

2:53:28 What would I do? I would sell my silver and if it tripled the rate of growth of gold and we go into gold, I just got you three times as many ounces of gold then as what I could have. And then you jumble the next big increase. And then we ride up gold and then once gold peaks we could go back into silver, go into something different. Our goal is to make sure you're in the right place at the right time. Exactly. Are there any other metals you think are really important? No, not right now. Those two big guys. Yeah, just those two. They're the bread and butter because they have high volume. There's a lot of trading. They're the meat and potatoes. Now people say, well, what about platinum? What about palladium? What about rhodium? It's like, eh, too much thinly traded markets controlled by Russia and South Africa. Those two are too rigged. Too risky, way too risky. Well, China, how did China get positioned for 97% control of rare earth minerals? Because I would say that'd be a great investment, but it's all control. You never want to invest in anything that's controlled.

2:54:15 Because you are out of the equation at that point and logic gets kicked out the window, which is why I like those markets of gold and silver. Now, here's something really cool, Alex, about... Yeah, I'm gonna shut up now. Go through the rest of your documents. Yeah, about silver. So we talked about this briefly yesterday, but there was this article from Dystopia to Utopia in gold and silver. So this is why, one of the reasons why we're in silver right now. So there's been massive manipulation. All of your viewers are saying, the banks are manipulating everything, BlackRock is, you know, the big hedge funds. Yes, they have been. I'm not discounting that. But you look at where silver has been since the year 2000. 2000, it was like $4.60 an ounce, give or take.

2:55:01 3 and a half years ago it was $11.91, 15 months ago it was $17.97, today it's over $23. So $17.97 to $23, that's up over 30% in the last year, year and a half. What else is performing like that? nothing. You look at what it's done since the last three and a half years from 1191 to 23, that's almost doubling up like 100%. That's averaging over 30% a year, but it's up over 500% from the year 2000. People say, well, it's over. not risk-risking. The numbers don't prove that. That's gaslighting. Yeah, so here's where those numbers are amazing. People would like those numbers, right? So you look at what these charts are doing and silver being manipulated. These prices reflect manipulated silver. So this is even a suppressed market. This is a suppressed market. Explain how they use naked shorting.

2:55:54 Okay, so manipulation comes when BlackRock for example who owns the SLV which is the silver ETF, they'll go to JP Morgan Chase which is the custodian of the physical silver that's supposedly backing the ETF and they say, hey Chase, we just sold 10 million shares of our ETF, we need you to buy 10 million ounces or whatever, however the mechanics work. So what is JPMorgan Chase gonna do? They're gonna say, hmm, let's drive the price down if we have to buy all these ounces because we want to buy low. We don't want to buy high and they have the ability to do it by shorting the market, right?

2:56:32 Right, so you issue naked shorts which means you can short something that you don't own. Illegal for you and I to do that but not for big banks, right? So they drive the price down, they gobble up physical silver, that demand causes the price to go up and they say, oh the price is too high, let's issue more short contracts. They buy up more physical silver, the demand causes the price to go up. This has been going on and on and on and on for a long time. Because of inflation, they're losing their control. They're losing their control, they're absolutely losing their control. And so now, what did they do two weeks ago? This is I think the most important story in silver. Ever. I mean, I've been doing this for decades, Alex. This is the most important thing for silver. Bullish activity ever. So in one week, in seven days, 50% of all the short, net short positions globally were unraveled. They went away. They're extinguished, right? This is according to the report by Sprott Money. So what does that mean? Why? What happened? Slow down here. I'm going to stop. You said this briefly yesterday, but let's just slow down.

2:57:36 I do this too, it's so big we just throw it out there. Record levels of them killing their shorts. Explain that slowly, because we're not all economists like you. Doc, explain this, how big this is. Okay, so if you have a short position active, you make money, and a lot of money, if the price continues to go down. if the price of whatever you have a short position on goes up, you lose money hand over fist. And it's not just a dollar for dollar loss. It's leveraged. So when you have a leveraged loss and you've got all of these, I mean literally a global market with all these short positions,

2:58:17 What are they expecting? They're expecting silver to go through the roof. How do I know? Because 50%, 5-0% of all short positions were unwound in a one week span, just a couple weeks ago. So that tells me they think that silver is going to go through the roof because they have to get rid of their short positions because if they don't, they're going to lose so much money that you couldn't even comprehend it. So this to me is the biggest news in the silver market ever literally ever and what happened last week so silver was like a twenty two dollars and thirteen cents today it's up over twenty three twenty ish it went up over a dollar in one week that's almost a five percent move in one week

2:59:00 Right, so multiply that out for a year. I mean, that's over a 200% gain per year. This is the trend, the pace that we are on. Right, so these, what do they know that we don't know? Why did they unravel their short positions to such a large amount so quickly? It's because everything that we're adding up here, the inflationary pressures, the Fed basically saying that we can't lower interest rates yet, we're going to have to pause because coming down the road, we know that inflation is coming and we're going to have to keep raising interest rates to keep slowing down inflation. But they know that they haven't tackled inflation. They couldn't lower interest rates yet. They had to pause them and keep them the same, which is what they've done the last four policy meetings

2:59:47 They've kept them the same. So interest rates are going to have to climb to slow down inflation. Right. So so what does that tell us? Inflation is coming. What happens to tangible assets like gold and silver during inflation? They go up. Because there are things, things go up with inflation. I don't care if it's a car, I don't care if it's oil and gas, I don't care if it's groceries. Everybody watching this, you're gonna know it's like, yeah, groceries are going through the roof. We're not making ends meet. It's hard to even maintain a budget in our house. Prices are going up, inflation is there. Now, Alex, inflation has been understated for years, since 1996 actually.

3:00:27 So everybody watching this, you know back in back after Carter was president and if you're old enough to remember that He destroyed the economy one of the worst financial presidents ever right now Right? Massive recession, dollar was collapsing, inflation was at 14.3%, nobody was working, they were rationing at the gas pumps, you had OPEC going crazy and it's like, oh my word, this is bad. So Reagan came in with Paul Volcker, who was chairman of the Fed at the time, said, hey, we can fix this runaway inflation, we've got to jack up interest rates to 18%. Right? So in 1983, interest rates were 18%. If you bought a house back then, 30-year mortgage was 18% interest rate.

3:01:09 Why? This is, as an economist, as a PhD economist, I always have to ask why. It was because inflation was 14.3, the only way to slow down inflation with interest rates is to actually have the interest rates be higher than the inflation rate. And that's what they did. So fast forward to 1996. President Clinton at the time commissioned the Boskin Commission in Congress to say, hey, we got way too many cost of living adjustments going out. We have to understate inflation. We have to artificially lower it. So this is not their words, but this is what the actions. It's like we got to stick it to the American public. Everyone that voted for us, we've got to lower the money that we're paying to them so the government can make more money.

3:01:52 So they artificially lowered inflation. This is very important because it applies to what we're doing today. So with substitution bias, with all these different price adjustments, they figured out how they can lower inflation. So, when I was doing my first dissertation, I developed a new methodology for measuring inflation because the way that the BLS does it, it's broken. So, substitution bias. Let's say the CPI, the Consumer Price Index is a basket of goods, 30 goods. Let's say steak is one of those goods. you know, filet, prime rib, whatever, steak. So if the price of steak goes up 30%, they say, nuts, we don't want this in there anymore. Let's substitute steak with hamburger. Hamburger is 40% less than steak. So what did they say happened to the price of steak?

3:02:43 They didn't say it went up 30%, they said the price of steak came down 40% because they substituted it with hamburger. That means that the inflation numbers that we're seeing are completely bogus, completely manufactured, but if you apply the same metrics that we had in 1983 to today without Clinton's substitution bias, we're hovering at around 15% inflation, which means I don't believe for a second, Alex, that they're gonna stop lowering interest rates because they have to get interest rates higher than 50%. Sure, so they know this is coming and they know silver's gonna go up, so they've stopped shorting it. That's just my layman's term. This is so powerful. When you laid that out the last 20 minutes, I'm gonna take this and post it tomorrow on xinfowars.com. This is a no-brainer, it looks like. People are getting silver, but they don't wanna pay over, they wanna pay

3:03:33 A little fee to get a good deal with you, they need to get silver right now and you're ready to ship it to them. Ready to ship it to them. We drop ship from the depositories. We don't maintain an inventory. We don't carry an inventory. That's how companies go out of business. And that's the only way you're... people who know the business, if you're doing a bunch of numismatic scams, you couldn't do that. You have direct deals at As a commodity. You're doing this as a commodity. As physical silver. 100 ounce bars, 10 ounce bars, 1 ounce rounds. That's how you know it's set, folks. It's not a scam. Yeah. Drop shipped from the depository directly to your house, directly into your IRA account. See, people calling you with a little fee, it's for the advice.

3:04:09 Yes, it's the cost of ownership. But this is one where, you know, this is one area where we're different than every other firm in the industry, really. When you liquidate, you want to lock in profits. Everyone wants to buy or sell. Yeah, but also you're different because nobody's as articulate as you. I think, I literally, I told this a year ago, I said, God, I want to help people with silver and gold, we can't get a real company, give me, and literally, then you, I was like, asking you on as a guest, and somebody else goes, hey, this guy wants to be a sponsor, literally an answer to prayer. You're also a theologian, I know. Yeah, it's one of my PhDs in theology, but... Well, that's a whole other subject. We'll hit in a minute. Where do you think we are on the timeline? Because it's all being fulfilled. I mean... Okay, I mean... That's a whole other subject. A whole other subject? I can answer what I think, but... A whole other show on that then. But when you liquidate your assets, we don't charge a commission when you liquidate. So whatever the depository pays for metals on the day you want out, you get all of it, 100% of it, because we don't take anything.

3:05:04 So we operationally were different than other firms were. Most firms are transactionally based, make a commission when you buy, a commission when you sell, they forget about you in between. We love the relationship on the in-between. To me those transactions are the bookends. But there's an 8% cost of ownership when you buy, zero when you liquidate. So what does that tell you? You know exactly what silver has to do for you to break even. It's an 8% growth. And you said in the last month it's already gone up that amount. In the last week, it's gone up almost 5% because when we saw that short news, how 50% of them were liquidated, literally, silver went from 2213 to like 2330 in a week. And you predicted then it would happen? Yes.

3:05:49 I mean, it's not rocket science. So, spell it out to me, because I'm a little smart, but I'm a little— spell it out to me like I'm five years old. They are killing their shorts at a level never before seen because they're getting out of the way. Yeah, because they think that silver is going to go up. Why do they think that silver is going to go up? So if you're a hedge fund, if you're a big bank, and you look at numbers that most people don't look at, The problem is the inflationary pressures, the unsustainable debt, the political chaos, the geopolitical conflict. Those are the fundamental forces that cause markets to move. So here's an interesting thing. The GDP, gross domestic product, which is a reflection, Alex, of everything that you and I buy at stores, everything that everybody watching this is going to stores, paying retail prices,

3:06:36 A gross domestic product is that with everything that's manufactured, created in the country. It's an index of the economy. Yeah, so if inflation is at 15% and follow me on this, if inflation is at 15%, GDP is a reflection of everything that we're buying stuff on. GDP should be growing at 15%. if inflation's at 15% and it's a reflection of everything. That's what Biden says, oh inflation because we're making, no, no it's not. Yeah. GDP is not at what, at 3%? Yeah, well yeah GDP is so, they were bragging about this, they wanted to beat the market consensus of 2% growth in the GDP and they were bragging about it. It's like, why are you bragging about 2%?

3:07:16 That's not good. 15% is just keeping up with inflation. So at 2%, that tells me the economy is actually shrinking. I'm letting you point out the two because I know Biden predicted three, I guess it's only two. Yeah, I mean... But even they call that a win. They call that a win because they're going to call everything a win. But here's where it gets really, really bizarre and really, really scary, Alex. So with this, to create $1 of GDP, they have to spend $2.50 in debt. By the way, you showed this a month ago when you were on. It's my fault, I should tell the crew. What graph do they pull up from Zero Hedge or Dow Jones that shows how Biden's created more money when he's been in office than it was ever created before? It's going straight up. Straight up. I mean, that's money supply creation. Guys, pull up a graph, US money supply creation. Yeah, and so there's

3:08:08 You've got a couple of graphs you could look at you could look at the debt you could look at money supply, but Money supply is starting to trick people because a few years ago. They stopped measuring total money supply It was called MZM. That's right, so they stopped because that's everything that's created for stimulus So when I see the graph going straight up. What is that? Okay, so so Going straight up is actually the debt that we're creating. So like 37 trillion? 37 trillion. So from 1776 until 1980 when Reagan became president You know, that's 204 years. We went- Now there's the graph. Yeah, we went from zero to, okay, this is very important. So we went from zero to almost a trillion dollars worth of debt in 204 years. The budget, Biden's stinking budget for 2024 has over $2.5 trillion of deficit, $2.5 trillion. Well, it

3:09:10 It took us 204 years to accumulate almost a trillion and he's adding 2.5 plus trillion in just one year. They're spending like drunken sailors. So how do you do that? Now that chart that you're looking at there, that's actually money supply. That's money that's being printed, right? So the M2 money supply going through the roof, that's money in your checking account, savings account, money markets. Now you see at the tail end of that that it's starting to come down. What does that chart to and preparing for central bank digital currency because you can't have digital money parallel with paper money because one is private and one is... And the big boys are pulling back to protect themselves. They're pulling back, they're pulling out of the system. Yeah. And that's what that number tells us. So we can't just glaze over that. I mean, I get chills because I'm not an economist like you, but I've been following this. I can get it, the signs. This is unprecedented. This is rear...

3:10:16 They're getting in the live boats while they have us rearranging deck chairs at the Titanic. The last time we saw this kind of money, M2 money supply shrinking was the Great Depression. But that was something different. That was, so what we have this time is money is leaving the system, Alex, because they're preparing us for a digital currency. You can't have a digital currency that they want to control every aspect of your buying, selling, all of your ideology, everything, and still have paper money at the same time because paper money is private. When you spend a $20 bill, nobody knows it was you. That's what they're trying to get away from. But here's where the unsustainability of the system that we're in, which is why I think we are so close to collapse, $2.50 of debt spending to get $1 GDP growth. So let me put it into story context. They've had to do this.

3:11:10 Straight up a hundred plus years of debt to just get a tiny response. They're out of bullets. They're out of bullets So let's say you're sitting at the dinner table with your wife and you say honey. I've got a great business idea I'm gonna spend two hundred and fifty thousand dollars to generate a hundred thousand dollars worth of in she'd divorce you She would slap you upside the head and say, Alex, you are the dumbest person that I've ever seen in my life. You're going to bankrupt our family. What is wrong with you? Right? So, but this is exactly what the government's doing. Spending $2.50 to generate $1 of growth. That's unsustainable. That's how as an economist, I can tell. We are- So let's pull back. Just put on your American citizen hat, doctor. Speculate. How do you see this unfolding? What are the different scenarios? People want to know that.

3:11:56 So as 2024 rolls into an election, what do I think is going to happen? I think we're going to see a crisis. Probably like nothing we've ever seen. I think we're gonna see banking crisis I think we're gonna see interest rates continue to climb which means people are not going to be able to pay their bills They're not going to be able to sustain their debt. They're not going to be able to feed their family, right? I'm painting a picture that looks grim because it really is but here's where this is where they want the picture what they want the picture to look like and Because in an election year politicians do what Alex they promise the moon and they promise other people's money to get votes

3:12:39 You know, you and I have talked about this before, and I know that you're a massive student of history and you love the Roman Republic and the fall of Rome and talking about that, but this started back then, right? Rome fell when the encumbrances, when the weight of the entitlement system buried them. They couldn't keep up with it. And that was one third of Rome was on government assistance at that time when Rome fell. We are now at over 80% of everything that we bring in as a nation goes towards entitlement. Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, women, infant, children programs, food stamps, all those handouts, right? Social Security is a mandatory payment. It's not an entitlement. If you're paying into it your whole life, you should expect to get something out of it. But you can't take it away because it's really easy in today's society to give, really hard to take away, right? So in an election year,

3:13:32 You're gonna see promises of other people's money. You're gonna see promises of everything to get votes. And I think this is where we start to see the unraveling. Because as interest rates continue to climb, that starts with delinquencies, people being late on their payments. Delinquencies over time end up in default. When you have too many defaults at banks, they start to go under. This is why I think we're gonna see number one this year Another system systemic bank failure right and and it's going to be a lot of them this time I think it's going to be something bigger I think people are going to start giving away their freedoms in exchange for perceived security and risk because of it I think that the BRICS nations are going to really start to flex

3:14:19 and pull away petrodollar status because they're trading in 70% of the world's trading block. I mean, it's a huge trading block, 70% of the world's population not using the US dollar but using their currency. That means demand for the dollar goes away which means they're going to print like no tomorrow. Right? When we lose reserve currency status, the end result is simple. We end up like Argentina, Venezuela, Cyprus, Greece, Zimbabwe, you name a country that's gone through a massive inflationary spiral, we are going to be no different than them.

3:14:56 It's impossible to be different from them when you don't have built-in demand from your currency. And I hate to say this, because I'm an American. I love this country. I'm a patriot. I want the dollar to be strong, but there's no way that it can be under current policies. And this is where we're headed this year. So I think under that, you know, it was Rahm Emanuel that said, never let a good crisis go to waste, right? They're going to let this crisis work in their favor. so they can actually start to strip away freedoms. This is where I see America headed, and I don't want anybody watching this to actually operate in fear, have your head in the sand thinking like an ostrich in a windstorm saying, hopefully if I just hide this and I don't think about it, it's gonna go away. No, if you do that, you probably should be scared because I think that you'll fail. But if you take action,

3:15:45 See, if you take action, allocate into tangible assets like gold and silver to get out of the paper, get out of the digital assets that make you a digital slave in their digital world, this is where you can actually start to just thrive and have a smile on your face. So this is gold and silver, one of the weird things, Alex, where not only is it a good investment, but I think it's the ultimate protector against loss of financial privacy, against loss of financial freedom, And that's why I'm shouting it from the rooftops. to anybody that will listen because I believe, you know, being a PhD economist and putting these puzzle pieces together of the economy, of politics, of personal freedoms, of religious freedoms, all being stripped away from us, right? If you put all those together, it paints a good picture of where we are in our society. And political consequences are having economic implications which are going to basically result in societal change.

3:16:46 This is where I think that we're headed. Massive societal disruption this year. We're already seeing it in Texas. We're already seeing that in Denver, for example, where I live. This migrant crisis, Alex, is creating a fiscal cliff that we're about to fall off of. So Denver, you know... There are just illegal aliens everywhere. I mean, we showed footage this week. It's right here in Austin, driving to work today. Pulled off and got gas on the side road. It's just homeless everywhere and illegal aliens everywhere. Everywhere. I mean, we look at we're right downtown where our office is and we look out the window and there's there's migrants everywhere. I'm telling you it's everywhere. By the way, you hit something five minutes ago because I'm running around behind the scenes here while you're talking saying that clip's amazing. Get that out. Do this.

3:17:33 But you explained they admit they're crashing the system to bring in social control through the central magnetism currencies. This is not speculation. They're doing this. This is making us poor to control us. So the answer is people need to be prosperous, at least positioned to protect themselves for their own autonomy. Well, Yeah, so and I can show people go through all the rest your stuff here So I can show people where they're actually talking about this so you go to Uniform Commercial Code article 8 for example this was oh man. This was done like in 2008-2009 after that crisis. Let me get this ready for a while

3:18:09 Yeah, this isn't anything new. This has been planned. They've been pre-positioning a while. Yeah, so what is it's coming though? So bank robbers plan a bank robbery. They're hitting the bank now. Yeah, so this this basically talks about this is key. This was in 2008 if you put money into the bank Alex you assume that that's your money. Yeah, it's not they have bail-in stuff. They have bail and stuff, but this Uniform Commercial Code Article 8 basically changed ownership. So during that crisis, they needed your assets to be collateral so they could pay off all their derivatives debt. So on this, what happened? You changed ownership from you to the bank.

3:18:49 of your assets and you became a beneficial owner, which sounds kind of sweet and kind of nice, but it's not. Basically, it's- I love it. Like they take your rights away and they call it beneficial. Yeah. You're a beneficiary of the ownership of your assets. You're a big guy. If you knock me out and say that's beneficial, no, it's not. No, that's not. I don't care what they call it. So it's a security, right? Because when you put money in the bank, this is where people think money in the bank is safe. No it's not. When you deposit a hundred bucks basically you're giving it to them they become the owner, you're a beneficial owner and they will let you use it if you want to but you're just hoping that your money is there when you want to withdraw it. The banks are hoping that not everybody wants to withdraw it at the same time because they have a zero point reserve requirement. While the globalists are quietly withdrawing buying gold and silver. Massive amounts. That's the bottom line. They're withdrawing buying hard assets

3:19:38 And farmland, mines, gold, silver, but then they're telling us to stay in the stock market. Yeah, so your assets in the bank have become a security instrument for the bank that you are no longer an owner of. So that's an expansion of kind of the derivatives and the sell and the mortgages at other times. Yes. Then go fast forward to one more time. August 9th of 2019 Federal Reserve docket OP 1670, basically this actually paved the way for central bank digital currency under that because in this document they changed the definition of money.

3:20:15 The Federal Reserve, this is their own words. They said there is a fourth function of money as a means of social control. By the way, this was a big deal when you did this a month ago. You only did two minutes and I got a lot of complaints that you didn't go deeper. So I'm not going to rub ten minutes on this. Okay. So start over. So fourth function of money instead of... New definition, explain it. Yeah. Instead of what is money, it's a medium of exchange, it's a hold of value. You know, that's what money is. You use 20 bucks to go to the store and buy something. It's an agreed upon... Exchange thing yep, and it still is but now they added this fourth function as a means of social control Which is like social control? What does money have to do with that? They say so I'm gonna draw it yeah, so social control means if they want to get a policy of like climate change in and You're you have a big gas guzzling truck like I do doesn't get very good gas mileage right and they say Alex

3:21:13 we're not gonna let you, under digital currency system, they can say, you're going to the gas station way too much, we'll just flip the switch, shut it off. So you can't buy that. We want you to buy- Or charge you a surcharge. Yeah, or we want you to buy an electric vehicle. So this is social control. If they- By the way, they're saying they're gonna do that. It's not like you're speculating. No, this is Federal Reserve Docket OP1670. I mean, it's not my opinion, it's their words. So let's say you give to a church, because you're tithing. And they say, what? We don't like that church. They speak hate speech, right? And so we're going to cut you off. And they even said they don't want that. Yeah. We're going to cut you off from being able to donate. And where are the church if they're sitting there having no idea they're about to have the rug pulled out from under them?

3:21:51 No idea. So then you go to 11-8 of 2019, US patent 62-758-430, Visa applied for this patent, the credit card company, and what did the patent say? It says we are actually applying for a patent to create digital money, a digital wallet, and every unit of digital money that's placed, we're going to take away one unit of paper currency. Elimination of paper currency to go to digital money. So this is their plan to get out of their Ponzi scheme, is a new one. Yes. 323 of 2020. HR 6321. The great Maxine Waters sponsored this one. So what is that? She said during the crisis, during the pandemic, right, that they manufactured, if anybody wanted government stimulus money, what did they say?

3:22:48 It said they have to have a digital dollar, they have to have a digital dollar wallet issued by a member bank. So if you want to receive government money, you're going to have to go into a digital system. There is no other option. So extrapolate out that in the future. They're in the old system. Yeah, extrapolate that out into the future. And this is where I'm going to start to bring in some theology stuff, Alex, because What if you want Social Security or a government pension? You've been working for the federal government, the military, whatever your whole life and say, okay, you want to keep that coming? You have to have this FedNow app. You have to have this Mark of the Beast system or you're not going to be able to get it. It's like what? I don't want that. Well, too bad. Either you take it or you don't get your money, right? So then March 9th of 2022, Executive Order 14067

3:23:35 ensuring responsible development of digital assets. This was penned by Biden. And what did he say? He authorized the move to central bank digital currency in America. That's where this all starts to come home at the Federal Reserve level. March 29th of 2022, Dr. Pippa Malmgren actually explained for the first time at the World Economic Forum, what is central bank digital currency? It's programmable money. Meaning, they can change who owns it if your digital social profile- And say where you can spend it. They've admitted all this now. I mean this is all their words. This is not mine. I don't want anybody to think this is my opinion. I'm just reporting what they said, right? The ability to cut you off your ability to buy or sell based on your social credit score. Well they had the head of the European Central Bank, they had the head of the International Bank of Settlements, I'm going to play the club, say we will control everything you do, we will control your behavior, we will do everything. They said it. Yeah.

3:24:34 And here's where it starts to now gain momentum. It's like a snowball rolling downhill, right? So March of 2023, the United Nations, our common agenda policy brief. So the Secretary General of the UN basically said they're convening to operationalize automatically an emergency platform in the event of a future complex global shock of sufficient scale, severity and reach. So they tell you, we're going to use a virus for control, we're going to use a banking collapse for control. They're telling you. They tell us and they tell us. And they artificially put the US with the BRICS into policies to kill the dollar to create the crisis. Correct. Wow. Yeah, so get a load of this. Which I think they're going to double cross BRICS though when it comes time. I think so. Nobody can be trusted anywhere. Everyone's going to double cross everybody, right?

3:25:21 But here's where they tell us in the next paragraph, we don't have to think or speculate about what a global shock of sufficient scale, severity and reach could be because they say, what is that? The emergency authority can be convened including a major climatic event, a future pandemic risk, a global digital connectivity disruption, a major event in outer space, and generic unforeseen risks like Black Swan. So they're talking about solar flares, asteroids. Yes, and a future pandemic risk. And what did you talk about last week? Stinking Ebola virus? You know, they're cooking up in Colorado. They're cooking up in Colorado in my backyard. Denver Health, all the employees taking the live Ebola vaccine. And the lab that's creating that is in Colorado Springs. It's like Wuhan in Colorado. Colorado Springs is the real U.S. Capitol. Yeah, I mean, what in the world is... For those that don't know, that's the real Capitol. They even have an alternate Congress. Everything's set up there.

3:26:16 That's NORAD. Okay, so I'm basically living at ground zero. Thanks. Well, you're probably the most protected. I mean, that's the real capital is the Colorado Springs. Yeah. Yeah. So keep, I mean, this, they got a whole underground capital. It's admitted the whole thing there and that there is stuff under Denver. They've been called a conspiracy. They've got underground bases everywhere. That's the real deal. When was the last time you were at Denver international airport? I know now they're countering the conspiracy theories. They got Bathomet, they got gargoyles, they got murals of kids being slaughtered by Nazis. It's wild. Oh, it's wild. And now they're doing all kinds of construction. You know, they put up the fake walls to hide the construction. I know the guys that built it. There are, it's an alternate B-52 base at Denver. That was the excuse to build it, but it goes all the way out to Colorado Springs, which

3:27:04 which is the alternate government in a nuclear war and COG, Continental Government. So this is all declassified. That's the real capital now. The alternate capital is Colorado Springs. Which is like an hour or half an hour, whatever it is from Denver. That's like 60 miles. I mean, it takes an hour to get there. It's not far. But they're putting up signs on these walls. It's like, what are we doing here? We're making Denver a better airport for everybody. We've got a secret underground government base. I saw the Washington Post last week. They go, Guys, pull up the headlines as he mentions it. It was... Denver Airport counters conspiracy theorists. Yeah. What does that even mean? See, they don't have to say that they lied about it because it's on the walls there. It's like underground government base or they're, you know, hiding the lizard people in the tunnels. I mean, they're making fun of it, but one of those things... Why are they doing that? One of those things is true. So they can say, we told everybody what we were doing and nobody believes it, right? So anyways, wild stuff happening there. But then,

3:28:04 March 6 of 2023 to continue on with this timeline, Bank for International Settlements Project Icebreaker. What's that all about? That says the ability to not authorize bank wires if the use of funds does not match up with their ideology. Meaning, if you wanted to send me money... So the Federal Reserve is saying, and the WF is saying, if we don't agree with you, we don't let you transfer money. Correct. It's all in the documents. In the documents, and there's a link here that people... all you have to do is go to the Bank for International Settlements, bis.org, type in Project Icebreaker, you'll find it.

3:28:39 March, May 31st of 2023, Bank for International Settlement Project Aurora took it one step further. And what is Project Aurora? That's real-time transaction monitoring of all transactions of all people in all banks of every country. That's everybody, Alex. And why do they need to monitor every transaction in real time? Oh, to see if their ideology matches up. Why do they want to do that? So they can cut you off from buying or selling. In their own words. In their own words. all about people control, right? So then you go to June 20th of 2023. Now it starts to get to, well, if we don't like you and the blueprint of the financial monetary system, improving the old, enabling the new unified ledger, this is the UN's blueprint. What do they say? A unified ledger means they can tokenize all of your assets into a packet, into one like chunk.

3:29:32 And in that, you can have your house, you can have your stock, your bonds, your mutual funds, your bank account, your savings accounts. No, and they can change it with the flip of a switch, they can change ownership. Well, good grief, this goes back to that law after the 2009 crisis where you become a beneficial owner. Now it's all making sense. So they're applying these laws, putting them together, unified ledger, applies to beneficial ownership where you don't own anything and you're gonna like it, in their words, right? So there's where we are there. Now, June 27th through 29th of 2023, during the 14th annual meeting of the new champions in Tianjin, China, Cornell University professor Eswar Prasad shared his thoughts on the impending disappearance of physical currency. They're bragging about all of this, right? So now,

3:30:27 What are future dates coming up? Future dates, September 15th of 2024, the UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres vision for the future, global biometric ID tied to all bank accounts. So now all bank accounts are gonna be digital tied up to you, your biometric, whether it's a fingerprint, whether it's whatever, retinal scan, we don't know. And then you go to September 22nd through 24th of 2024, that's this year, UN pact for the future, this is the date the globalists want to share their commenced plan to the world. So their timeline is established. We are just repeating it, right? We're just repeating and sharing that news. So as a theologian, you know, as a, you know, having my PhD in theology, Alex, I look at this, Revelation 13, 17 says, in those days, you know, no man, woman or child will be able to buy or sell unless they have the mark, you know, so, so what is that?

3:31:25 It's like theologians throughout time are saying, what is the mark of the beast? The 666, what is it? Well to me as I read this, they're saying that this is probably the mark of the beast. If you can't buy or sell without matching up with their ideology, then they can cut you off. Doesn't that sound like Revelation 13, 17, Alex, where it's like... Well, the Bible says you've got to worship the beast to get the mark. It's not like you just accept it. You've got to worship it. Right. Which means it's tracking everything you do, you've got to merge with it. Yes. So here's where I have a message of hope in this, because people freak out and say, Kurt, Central Bank digital currency, it's the mark of the beast, this is the end of time, this is terrible. It's like...

3:32:03 Does that verse actually say that it's the only game in town? No, it doesn't. It just says don't take the mark, right? So... It says run to the hills, the country. Yeah. So here's where I think knowing how God is, how he's a God of love, he's a God of grace, he's a God of mercy, he's a God of choice, right? He always gives us cheat sheets. He always gives us a plan for success. You know, Jeremiah 29 says, my plan for you is to have a successful future, not to harm you, right? So here's where he would not put in his word anything where we just- But we better find out the plan and follow it. We better figure it out because- How powerful is it? Because I already know God, I already know the Holy Spirit, God's given me psychic dreams and things that come true. Like, hey, I'm literally, like, I'm real. I already know that.

3:32:51 It's all being fulfilled. I mean, it's wild. It is so so knowing God the way that you and I do and your viewers out there It's like he gives us a choice always we as as a Christian you can accept Jesus or reject him benefits for accepting, curses for not, or problems. You can sin or you cannot sin. Or in this Mark of the Beast thing, you can either take it or you don't. See, what is the plan if you don't take it? Well, this is where I think states' rights are coming in. You go down to the vast... Oh, there's gonna be major remnants everywhere. Major remnants everywhere.

3:33:30 Texas, like Oklahoma, state chartered central banks backed by gold. And that's why the globalists admit Christians are their main threat because they're gonna reject it. Yes, absolutely. And what did Christine Lagarde say last week? She was spouting off about Trump saying Trump is the biggest fear of the globalists because if he gets back in and the globalists- That's out of the EU. Over, yes. So they're afraid of Trump because why? He's not part of the globalist system. He's not just gonna, you know, bend over. He said I'll shut down Central Bank digital currencies. He said that exactly. So my first act is I'm killing it. Yep. So here's why they are so afraid. They want the system to come in and you know what? I think that they will get it, Alex. I think this is gonna come. At some point.

3:34:19 At some point, but what's going to run... Well, you're a Bible, you're a theologian, I'm not, but there's many Antichrist spirits, there's finally the one. It keeps trying. It looks like we lose for a while, but no, we're pre-positioned that once people finally see it all happen, then the greatest revival ever happens. Greatest revival ever. And here's where I think there's gonna be parallel systems, gold-backed currency, using silver as barter. And I agree, gold, silver, but also farming, friends, family. All of that is necessary. That's gonna be pure gold. Yes, so I do think that they are gonna get their way in part, but there's gonna be parallel systems for us to thrive and succeed. And this is why I will. Well, that's the great evil. You're a theologian. I don't attack Christians that believe in a pre-tribulation, okay? I hope that's the case, but.

3:35:01 So I'm not judging them, they get so mad when I do this, but I can read Revelation, it says the beast wages war against the saints, overcomes them for a very short time. And so it's like you're getting your ass kicked in the fifth round, you win in the 12th. Regardless, we're here to challenge this, but the average Christian says, I don't care, I'll be taken care of. Well, when in history would Jesus or the prophets before him, did God not put his people in the way to decide who they were? I mean, I just don't see us perfectly not having to confront evil. Well, he never said it was gonna be easy. And I believe that God cares more about our eternity than he does our comfort level, right? And we have to ask ourselves this very critical question. Well, it's a task before we get boosted up to the frickin' heaven with God, we better prove ourselves. We better prove ourselves and we have to ask ourselves every day like I know you do, it's like, why am I here?

3:35:52 We are called to be light in this world and cast out the darkness, right? And using that Holy Spirit empowerment and the courage and the creativity and the boldness and the wisdom that comes from that. But we are here for a reason. We weren't created 400 years ago or 400 years from now. We're right here right now and we've got all this garbage happening. No, I agree. So what is the average Christian? Well, there's world government, Antichrist, and they're not rational. raptured out, what are they going to think and do when they're like sitting there in the middle of this? They're going to say the devil's the Christ and bow down to him. Yeah, I mean that's probably what they're going to do. But what we have to do is spread this message far and wide, like what you're doing every single day. I mean, this is your calling, it's your anointing, it's your gifting, Alex. Ours is on the financial side. And I want to bring peace in the midst of the storm to people's financial lives.

3:36:42 Right, so there's a story in the Gospels where there's this raging sea, this storm on the Sea of Galilee, right? And Jesus is out there walking on water and so for all of you people who read the Bible, you know the story, but Peter wakes up in the midst of the storm and he's out there and saying, Jesus, you're walking on water, what are you doing out there? And Jesus says, come to me. Right? And it's like, so what did he do? He starts walking on water too. Why? Because he was focused on the solution, not the storm. But human nature, he starts to get scared. He looks at the waves around him and he starts to sink. Why? Because he took his eyes off the solution. I think that story is a story for all of us today where we can say, look... Yeah, regardless, God's real. Just trust in God and it's going to be incredible. Most of America, and every client that calls me is basically gripped and paralyzed with fear, Alex.

3:37:28 And fear does one of two things. It causes you to not act or it causes you to make a wrong decision. So let that spirit of fear sink to the pit where it belongs. Focus on the solution. Well God doesn't give us a spirit of fear but a spirit of overcoming and victory. What's the question? Sound mind. and judgment and sound mind and with that comes creativity and wisdom and discernment and boldness and all of that. So most of America right now is focused on the storm. Don't focus on the storm. I want to encourage you, focus on the solution. Financially, I believe the solution rests in precious metals because you're out of that mark of the beast system. You're not a digital slave in their digital world. God created it. Families, farming, gold, silver. All of it. In closing,

3:38:11 Dr. Elliott, it's really great to have you here. You need to pitch it, you don't do it. You've got great gold and silver bullion, great advice, five star ratings everywhere, in a system where it's like nobody has even one star. We love you. Closing five minute statement on the economy, the world, and whatever else people need to know. You know, don't operate out of fear. Do not. And so that means what is fear going to do? It's going to cause you not to act. I've never done gold before. I've never done silver. I don't know what's going on. But the stuff that we talked about today, Alex, is real. It's happening. And you have to act to take advantage of it so it doesn't take advantage of you. So I encourage you to call us or go to go to KEPM.com forward slash gold.

3:38:54 or call our office 720-605-3900 and just say, Alex sent me, right? And so, and what do we do? We are going to hold your hand through the economy. We're going to get you into tangible assets, bullion. Remember what I said earlier, not all gold, not all silver are created equal. People are being overcharged. They're being abused literally abused going into something that's unsuitable for them And so if you thought you think that that's you simply email us at Ashley at KEPM comm she's our CEO and say and send us a copy of your invoice so we can possibly have people are insane if they're insane if I don't go with you ten years not a gold sponsor folks because I couldn't find a good one

3:39:41 because I'm not going to sit there and sell you numismatics with a 100% markup. I'm not doing it. Yeah, I mean, there's really, you never want to go into that stuff ever. low cost, and we are in silver right now because it's outperforming gold. And we can take advantage of that. You were on months ago saying silver is about to go up a bunch, and it did. It did. And we're going to see even more because of the manufacturing demand. Alex, this is what's wild to me. In the worst global economy we've seen in over 40 years, maybe ever, The demand for silver is through the roof because it's used in electronics, it's used in EVs, you know, electric vehicles, solar, fuel cell technology, all of it. Everything that we're hearing out of today is- It's an industrial metal. Industrial metal used for manufacturing needed. Manufacturing jobs are in decline. Bank failures are coming. What we didn't even get into, which we can talk about it next time we do a show, state pensions.

3:40:40 are running out of money. So if you've got a retirement and a state pension, it's like, oh my word, call us because we can possibly roll that out into an IRA denominated in gold and silver. Let's do this. I'm going to edit this down to an hour for my weekday show. Come on the 15 minutes before it. And we'll talk about the state pension funds. Cause that's a question without you bringing it up, our bankruptcy of some U S States in the future. That's been talked about the wall street journal. Yeah. I mean states are going bankrupt, pensions are going bankrupt. See we, to me a state pension is like a legalized Ponzi scheme, literally. Because... It goes back to Jimmy Hoffa and the Teamsters and all that. Yeah, because we've got the graying of America, more people are going into retirement that are going to receive benefits than people that are paying into the system. And that's what COVID's about to get rid of the old folks. Dr. Kirk Elliott, thank you so much for the time. Thanks for coming down from Denver.