2:50:09 Experience that many people are having of increasing experiences with the demonic right more and more phenomena people saying that they're seeing people you know change in appearance or seeing we are glitches manifestations and my theorizing is that this could be as a result of people. chain, move away from the paradigm of materialism and physicalism and into situations where we're considering the possibility of alternate realities, alternate dimensions. I don't really believe that there's multiverse. I think there are higher and lower dimensions. And so sometimes people might be mistaking that for a multiverse.
2:50:45 But regardless, this makes sense in the paradigm that is open-minded, that is open to understanding the possibility of there being higher and lower dimensions, that there's other spiritual realities beyond just the physical plane. And a lot of people that, for example, are engaging in excessive drug use, there's this phenomenon of people who, many of them, not just a few, but many, many people are doing excessive amounts of Benadryl. A lot of teenagers, young people, which I think is ridiculous. I would never recommend anybody do this. But they're having these experiences of seeing the same entity, the hat man, which I think is probably something obviously demonic.
2:51:23 A lot of people who've done intense LSD doses and so forth, even groups of people, they'll have a common experience of seeing the same hallucination or manifestation. And again, to cite Dr. Jordan Peterson, in his courses, his lectures, he actually talks about this as well. He talks about how would we have the same hallucination going on between people that are in a group taking a drug. I have friends who have had this experience and they've talked about it. Well, that suggests more than the phenomenon or the entity being purely chemical reactions in the brain. They might be chemical reactions in the brain, but they also might be tapping into higher realities, lower realities, other dimensions, hell dimensions, hell world, hellscape. I don't know, but I'm saying that that's very possible. And a lot of people's stories overlap and have commonalities.
2:52:16 Likewise, for example, Dr. Peterson cites the work of the famous comparative religion scholar Marquis Eliade, and Eliade had analysis of the commonalities among shamanic traditions. So it doesn't matter where you are in the world, whether you're in Mongolia or South America or wherever. The shamanic experience, I'm not saying be a shaman, I'm just saying that the patterns of the shamanic experience are the same. They have the same structures and cycles. For example, the shaman does something to cause the altered state of consciousness, he goes into the spiritual realm, he is then dismembered by the gods, the deities, whatever.
2:52:55 He might be consumed or destroyed and then he is put back together. He is reassembled and then the shaman comes back from the trip and he's now enlightened or he's at his third eye or whatever, however you want to, he has a spirit guide now. This occurs in a consistent pattern across the world. Why would that be? if, for example, all of these religious systems were completely human constructs. The modern post-Darwinian Enlightenment account of religions gradually begins to say, well, they're all just sort of social constructs, right? We're all just making this up as we go. It doesn't really have any ancient medieval connection or no truth really behind it. These are just human creations, right? Like LARPing fan fiction for the social order or something.
2:53:48 But why on how would it be possible that even amongst the polytheists, the shamans, the animists, the shamanic figure, that archetype, why would they have the exact same ritual experience across the world? And it can't just be because they have some common root, because after several generations there would be no connection between these people. They wouldn't know about a common root. Well, another possibility, which even Aldous Huxley hits on, in the doors perception which we covered here in the fourth hour a couple months ago. Aldous Huxley who's himself a big proponent of doing all these things, right? He sees this as tapping into other realities, other spiritual worlds, other mental worlds. He doesn't know how to explain it, but he admits that that's where the data seems to go, you see.
2:54:35 And I'm saying that comparative religion says the same types of things when it comes to explaining these phenomena. I'm not saying that every world religion and every claim of superstition is true, but I'm saying that you can have true and false in a system, right, in a worldview. So if we find commonalities amongst all the world religions when it comes to the demonic, when it comes to these manifestations, then perhaps religion has something to say philosophically about what those things are, what those manifestations are. And why is it, for example, that we see a lot more demonic possession or these manifestations in societies that are considered primitive or third world or whatever?
2:55:17 a lot more superstition, so-called. And those, well, they have a paradigm, a worldview where they see things in a religious context. Everything is alive. Everything is part of the divine spirit, right? I'm speaking of like animistic religions, right? So for them, their reality, their worldview is structured in that way. They have a different set of glasses that they read the world through. And so it's not surprising that we would see more and more manifestations of these kinds of things in those cultures because they see that as fundamental to reality. In modern Western materialist society, we may not have seen a lot of that before because we read reality in a different way. And so we limited the possibilities of what does and doesn't exist, good and evil, right? Now I'm saying that's its own kind of delusion, right? If you read Screwtape Letters, for example, the great book where the demon Screwtape is messing with a guy and trying to convince him of different things like atheism.
2:56:15 And atheism is a very powerful demonic presence and spirit in sort of the C.S. Lewis theology there. spirituality because it lulls man into a kind of a delusion that he's got it all figured out, he's got a grand narrative. But then sometimes reality breaks in, especially crises. When we have a lot of abundance and luxury and we have really decadent societies, when atheism sets in, usually that leads to the collapse of that society. Even historians and philosophers of history like Spengler, right? Spengler has noted this cycle of civilizations and then when they kind of get to this atheist phase, this is where they start to have the collapse, the breakdown.
2:56:54 because there's no longer meaning. Meaning breaks down. When meaning breaks down, society breaks down. And again, Tavistock studied Spengler. Keep that in mind. Now Spengler wasn't being nefarious. He was just kind of a weird eccentric historian, philosopher of history. But Tavistock studied Spengler to weaponize his philosophy and his system, to figure out how could we actually collapse the existing system to bring in our new system? And what I'm getting at is that part of the reason that we're seeing more and more of these weird manifestations, things being so crazy and so psychotic, is that we're literally sort of seeing the next level of reality, the next dimension, where the demonic is, kind of like stepping over into our, the veil is thinning. Alex said that yesterday, right? Exactly. That's what I think is going on, partly because of the
2:57:46 openness that human beings have to more and more spiritual realities and possibilities, which are manifesting oftentimes in a demonic way. I think a lot of these manifestations of what people are saying, it's evil. But it's not all that. There are good spirits, good forces as well. There's a good God. So just as much as there are these evil manifestations, there will also be good. But as society gets more and more wicked and corrupt, I think we're going to see more and more evil manifestations, more wicked manifestations, more bizarre, strange, and so forth. It's only going to get crazier and weirder from here on out.