Topic: Whip

John D. Shirley recounts his experience providing security at the first post-election DC rally, noting that Stuart Rhodes was strangely absent during key moments. He introduces a mysterious figure known as "Whip" (identified as Mike Simmons), who was suddenly promoted to Vice President of Oath Keepers without a board vote. Shirley expresses suspicion regarding Whip's background and his rapid ascent within the organization's hierarchy.

Shirley details an encounter with a drunk man in Atlanta who repeatedly tried to incite violence between Antifa and the Oath Keepers. He suspects this individual was a provocateur operating from the Oath Keepers' own command post. Shirley reiterates his suspicion of "Person 10" (Whip), noting that this individual was present at multiple rallies but has not been indicted, similar to Ray Epps.

The host warns that many modern militias and paramilitary groups are infiltrated by federal agents to stage events and demonize the Second Amendment. Shirley agrees, noting that "Whip" (Person 10) was always dressed in masks and dark clothing, hiding his identity even from fellow members. They discuss the possibility that these figures serve as handlers to manipulate "romantic" leaders like Stuart Rhodes into legal traps.