Topic: Ingo Swann

Elon Musk has joked about being a "5,000-year time traveler," which may refer to the ability to access information outside of linear time through psychic means. There are reports of a "psychic Secret Service" detail that protects the President from non-physical attacks in the astral realm. This segment explores the work of remote viewer Ingo Swann, who allegedly encountered telepathic entities while attempting to view Mars for the government.

The "Apotheum" effect is described as a reality-distortion physics associated with UFOs, causing missing time and psychic phenomena. List discusses the government's use of remote viewers like Ingo Swann and the 2003 NASA hack by Gary McKinnon, who reportedly found a list of "off-world officers" in secret files.

The CIA's remote viewing program, led by Russell Targ and Ingo Swann, utilized psychics like Pat Price to track UFOs and locate missing persons. Price, a high-level psychic with Scientology connections, died mysteriously after expressing too much curiosity about the UFO file. Former CIA Director Stansfield Turner once made a cryptic comment suggesting a psychic had gone "so remote" they could no longer be found.

Dark Journalist and Alex Jones discuss the 50-year absence of manned moon missions since 1972, suggesting that NASA has covered up artifacts on the lunar surface. The guest references Ingo Swann's book "Penetration," which claims remote viewers saw a "gigantic infrastructure" on the moon. They argue that the transition to corporate-led space exploration is a way to remove public oversight and hide advanced technology.