Topic: Clifton Carter

Shane Stevens, grandson of the late Texas financier Billy Sol Estes, joins the program to discuss never-before-heard audio tapes involving LBJ's inner circle. The tapes feature conversations between Estes and Clifton C. Carter, a top LBJ associate and former DNC head. Stevens explains that the recordings were kept as a "dead man's switch" to protect his grandfather from being killed during the cover-up of the JFK assassination.

The discussion explores the deep-seated animosity between Lyndon B. Johnson and the Kennedy family leading up to the 1963 assassination. Shane Stevens details how LBJ utilized "bag men" like Clifton Carter to manage illegal funds and "hit men" like Mack Wallace to eliminate political threats. The tapes reportedly implicate LBJ directly in the plot to kill Kennedy to avoid being investigated for his own corruption.

Shane Stevens explains that the tapes were recorded in 1972 as insurance for Billy Sol Estes after he was released from prison. The audio captures Clifton Carter expressing regret and fear regarding the numerous people killed to protect LBJ's secrets. The host notes that the tapes provide a rare window into the psychological state of LBJ's confidants as the "Texas Mafia" began to collapse.

The program premieres the full audio recording of a conversation between Billy Sol Estes and Clifton C. Carter. In the tape, Carter admits that LBJ ordered the "embarrassment" of Kennedy to be handled and discusses the mysterious deaths of 17 people, including Henry Marshall. The two men reflect on LBJ's belief that he was "destined to rule" and the heavy toll his actions took on his associates.