2:31:43 But they did it the wrong way, which is the dumbest thing you could do because I gave these guys and I'm not saying like, hypothetically, I'm telling you Alex explicitly. I had a 20 slide PowerPoint that we sent along to cash Patel prior to his confirmation. These guys do it. And I know you're really smart guy. You're people all the inside baseball, but 35,000 foot view back to this. You haven't made a prediction yet. And I was interviewing before Trump got back in, but in the last seven months, that hasn't come true yet. So it plus it all makes sense. So he's logical, but Cash Patel's gone.
2:32:21 Tulsi Gabbard's doing her job. I know behind the scenes Trump is demanding indictments. Now suddenly Bondi's told Ed Martin and others, you are released, get them. And so just the last few weeks it's gone from well to you better get them. So that looks like a good sign. And then I ask you, I mean, I know who he is. I'm following as close as you, but other than like Ken Paxton, this Missouri AG, Andrew Bailey looks like he's pretty smart and is one of the toughest guys going after corruption and the deep state. So, I mean, I asked you, I said, would he be a good director? And you said, well, I mean, you, you, you, well.
2:33:01 Tell us. Put a fine point on that because Andrew Bailey, does he have to be the best prosecutor? No, because you're the attorney general. You don't go try cases. That's not your job. What you have to be is the most savvy person and the most principled person. And so that's what you want in your FBI director, somebody who understands what the Constitution is about. So as an accurate for what I've seen this guy for years, I was saying they ought to make him the director or make him a, I mean, this guy, The deep states look at the ball that he picked up He picked up the football that came from his predecessor and they moved the Missouri v Biden So that's gonna be big tech censorship and they were fighting that at the federal level pushing against you know The DOJ and sort of the White House the previous Soros da's
2:33:39 Right? And then the last thing is he's also been on a pro-life kick where he's out there trying to deal with things for against Planned Parenthood and pull money out of there and make sure there's disclosures and things about the abortion pills. So a lot of the stuff he's doing are all great. That's all great. So you can't take a guy and when you're AG, you're less of a prosecutor and you're more of a politician, you have to run for national or for state level office. So when you have somebody that's that savvy, that that's bright, that's picking his cases properly, and he's playing to the proper base and what we think are the right principles. You're not gonna see that guy go be in the shadow of Cash Patel in a national office. He's not gonna go just disappear and slunk off. For the argument that's being made by some of the MAGA folks right now is that, well, they need a good prosecutor as the number two at the FBI. You can't articulate that and also be a sensible person because the FBI doesn't prosecute cases. The FBI investigates cases. Yeah, this guy's gonna be a conductor to vet the cases, make sure they're the right ones, and then green light them.
2:34:34 And push them out. and specifically prominence to people on the political right, you're looking at a guy that's smart, that's savvy, that's got the right background, military experience and all that kind of thing. And you're gonna have him jump into what? Like a number two job? I don't see it happening. So saying that Kash Patel is very likely out is where the smart money is right now. And I actually think that's a net good. It might give us another opportunity, us being like people who wanna see accountability for the federal government, another chance to touch that animal that is the FBI and reassert authority.
2:35:21 You can't redo it for Kash Patel. You only get one chance to make that first impression. And his was, give me the cool guy operator clothes. Let me take a box of booze and fly out to Las Vegas in the private jet. And let me hang out with HRT, the hostage rescue team, and cut some promo videos within my first two weeks. And maybe we can recruit some more private pilots and buy new planes. That's the wrong move for the FBI. What that says is I wanna do the status quo, and whatever you guys say is good. Bongino got snowed into the same thing because he didn't know what he was walking into. So Bailey's going to be able to at least see, I think as kind of a, a, a walk in kind of on the job training where the failures are without really being accountable for it yet. And if they're smart, yeah, it's an uphill battle because you're going to have to have him confirmed again. But if you put them into the deputy role and you remove cash Patel, whether they promote them somewhere else or they drop them all altogether, you now have him as the, the automatic shoe in for the acting director.
2:36:10 And then he can go in front of Congress or he can go in front of the Senate for a confirmation and he's already doing that job. And so maybe that's the move. That's the most likely move that makes sense. And again, I don't think Andrew Bailey is a dumb man and I don't think he's not savvy. And I don't think he walks into that place and says, yeah, I'm willing to go be in somebody else's shadow being the top dog in Missouri to being like somebody that nobody has ever heard of because most people can't name the previous FBI deputy directors and they sure as hell can't name the idea. I think you're guessing here but I don't think you're guessing. I know Trump's pissed off he wants action that's why we've suddenly seen a shift towards the promising indictments grand juries opened so then we've gone from like a 25 chance to a 50 chance it's moving rapidly
2:36:53 But this has got to scare the deep state. If they were trying to block Ed Martin to be US Attorney in DC, imagine what they're going to do over this guy because he's shown a real proclivity to actually go after him. And imagine when the FBI stay behind, establishment bureaucrats try to come to him and set the agenda. He's going to laugh at him. as he should. Yeah, you shouldn't allow the FBI to run the FBI. You should let the director actually do it. But historically, as I think I've shared with you real specifically, the FBI is run by the deputy director and the FBI's deputy director's job is to basically handle the director. If you have someone who comes in who saw that that was the case, and now you got another look at that status quo and says, no, I'm not gonna do that.
2:37:38 Um, that's great. You mentioned guessing. I think it's kind of funny. Nothing against any of them, but I've studied this for years, but under attack bot, I barely understand it. And literally a New York cop secret service agent. And then you've got Patel talks about it's all his background, lightweight compared to most people. You they're literally dropping them in. It's like saying, Oh, I took some scuba diving lessons. I've scuba dived to the Caribbean at 20 feet deep. They go good. Here's your industrial diver suit. You're going down 1500 feet. I mean, it's a totally different deal. That's it. Yeah, familiarity is not the same as expertise. So we have a danger in that. I think that the only winning team, this is by the way, the way the military does things, right? You've got an officer, the officer has to have the command structure. They have to understand what the overarching principles are. They're briefed from the top down. Here's what we wanna go do. So that's gonna be your FBI director. But then you always have a senior NCO, your non-commissioned officer. It's gonna be some senior sergeant or a master sergeant, or maybe it's even a chief or something like that. I was in the Air Force. So you're gonna find that person who brings like
2:38:39 I've got 40 years of experience in this and this is how it works on the ground. That's the deputy's job. We've always had this sort of dichotomy where you have one person that represents leadership, the other person represents the institution, and then they have to make it work together. If you don't bring in somebody that knows the FBI, and I would recommend that it be someone who has faced the crappiest end of the FBI, sort of like been persecuted by. There's lots of guys who have been retired that are principled people that are not conservative or liberal, and I think that's really critical. They're just constitutionalists. They think that there's a right and a wrong, people that have pretty operated in the black and white. There are those people, most of them have gotten on the wrong side of the FBI, but historically you still got to be able to retire. So this is gonna be a retired GS 14, like a supervisory level, maybe a retired ASAC, a GS 15, somebody that spent 20 plus years in the bureau that can come back into that role and says, I know that
2:39:31 I know what's wrong. You already advised Patel on record. He didn't listen to you. I would imagine you would be happy to advise the AG of Missouri. Yeah, I mean look, he follows me on Twitter, which is kind of amusing. I've shared stuff with his staff when he was in, when he's in Missouri. So they asked me for some thoughts about some things that they were pursuing and I was more than happy to share it. I know everything. Absolutely not. Don't sell yourself short, Kyle. You're smart. We all know that. So no, obviously they're listening to you. Well, that's good news. So I want to announce, because you're a big pessimist like Owen. And I am too, but I've been doing this 31 years. I've seen how far we've moved from almost no one knowing anything to like, stuff's getting good folks. It takes time. It's like in force 10 from Navarone, they blow up the dam. It doesn't collapse right away. And the demolition guy goes, just be patient. You know, it's, it's cracking. It's going down.
2:40:17 Now, this is a net good move, no question about it. If we go with the sort of Martin Luther King Jr. piece, because I had to visit the MLK Memorial when I was in the FBI Academy, they say what? That the arc of the universe is long, but it bends towards justice. For people that are looking for a little bit of a silver lining, you do need a reset. You need it. You got to have somebody else kind of step into that space because you can't do- Yeah, but like you said, out of all the good people, you and I, everybody was saying this guy before. Yeah, I actually backed Patel because I knew Patel or I knew of Patel and I got played and I'm happy to admit that like, look, I was one of the reasons I think grassroots wise that was agitating because cash turned on you into the Senate and said, you're not a good guy. And you found out about it. Not a good sign. That's something. Yeah. And you got all the Q sycophants that just worship Bongino and Patel. How are they going to feel when their gods aren't in there anymore?
2:41:09 They'll just take the new programming whenever the new thing comes out. It's kind of like the meme where they replace the chip whenever they're told what to go, the marching orders. It seems like a lot of the MAGA base and not the thinking crowd that's listening to this that are questioning and skeptics and whatnot. The people that just kind of wanna be programmed and given a talking point that listen to Fox News, whatever the talking point is, that's what they're gonna go out and do. Today it's gonna be, they need a prosecutor because they're gonna do prosecutions. And then when they go, hey, Cash Patel wasn't the right guy, they'll be like, yeah, we always knew it. read something really quickly to you, Alex, because it was funny in that CBS piece, um, halfway down or three quarters of the way down in the story, it said, Serafin had publicly speculated correctly. It turned out. And then it went on to say like, I'm either the best CBS article I sent it to you. I had it right here. Oh, here it is. I'll show it. I'll read it. Or I'm substantiating things that people are saying to me and I'm doing it with actual evidence. And so look, the things that happened, they happened because the sourcing inside the bureau was good.
2:42:00 They don't have you don't have the two guys that are running it right now with a lot of respect from the agents They feel like they're being run by social media influencers I've had people tell me that Dan Bongino doesn't even email them on the on the classified servers He just goes out and tweets it on X and that's where they get their marching orders in some ways or what policy looks like None of that's really good But at the end of the day being being an outspoken an effective member my biggest sort of service right now is I'm sharing with Americans a Why the things that they hope are not likely, which is to say that like, it's all part of this plan. And it's adding some sort of knowledge base where people can say, we really do need a former FBI guy as the deputy because you need someone that knows how to actually find it. The funny thing is they were making that same argument about the previous J6 domestic terrorism squad sections. What is it called? Section Chief? That was Steven Jensen who just got fired