FULL FRIDAY SHOW 12/19/25: Is The Reported Brown Shooter A Patsy? Market Expert Dr. Kirk Elliott Breaks Down How Japan Just Ended The Yen Carry Trade, Setting The Stage For Massive Global Inflation! PLUS, Alex Jones Challenges Ben Shapiro To A Debate After The Daily Wire Founder Went On The Attack Last Night! FINALLY, Top FBI Whistleblower Kyle Seraphin Responds To The DOJ Missing The Congressional Deadline To Release The Epstein Files! THIS IS A MUST-WATCH/SHARE EDITION OF THE ALEX JONES SHOW!

00:00 The government fears Alex Jones, who has the largest audience in the country. Bigger than any of the networks... ...the biggest megaphone in the country. The deep state hates Alex Jones with a vengeance! Alex Jones is THE most extraordinary person I've ever met! InfoWars Tomorrow's News Today

00:39 We are in a historical crisis. We need George Washington, we need Abraham Lincoln, and we need President Jackson right now Andrew Jackson so my only message to Trump is damn the torpedoes go straight at them and speak directly the people say look you elected me to stop The Deep State And you see what we're up against. In this fight with the deep state, with the globalists give me if your words present now say hey look I want to do this in the first week he get back We're gonna try it one more time that was great to end the year But i wanna really hit the deck place running What are the two or three things that you tell him here's I think but we need to frame this so people can see It's light and dark People can see its good and evil What do you recommend? Well notice

01:23 Even before he got back in and all the Hollywood movies and all the PR by the Democrats says, He's a dictator. Don't use the military. Oh, he's Hitler. Oh Border Patrol can arrest illegals It's only legal. Oh the seditious six They know what Abraham Lincoln and George Washington had to do with Andrew Jackson when people tried this stuff They know that's the only checkmate to John Brennan and the rest of them are openly still running this with Obama And all their networks still in the government, the sleeper cells that Trump is dealing with technical name stay behind network folks look that up So Peg says he is on the right track. They get a referral on the Seditious Six and on Senator Kelly

02:03 It's not the speech they made, it's who put them up to it. They admit was the Democrats and they want people not to follow orders imply they're getting legal orders ahead of their uprisings. People wanna see action and a Trump has to say they've killed our National Guard. They call them terrorists, they got him killed. They're literally with the Islamists. They have launched their attack. They believe the West is weak. They believe this is a takedown and as long as he raises the alarm He has to go directly to the existential war good versus evil. He has to do it right now and America needs to know we're in a fight together We need to have Trump pointed us like Uncle Sam had said

02:39 I want you to join the American Republic. I can't do this without you, then you'll get the lines of people not just signing up for military we see happening but all of it to understand this is 1776 part two they have to fire the bat signal he has to get super hardcore but to the general public they wanna be included in the narrative They wanna be mobilized if he mobilizes the people we win landslide in 20 If not, if he just sits there here's Larry Ellison and here is these people. People don't wanna see that they want to see Bill Gates the White House no Bill Gates in the White House you know none of this stuff no he needs to be doing

03:17 Addresses, you know he cares about 60 minutes. He cares myself with no viewers here's what Jimmy Kimmel and over yours He went on the Elon Musk show have you know a billion listeners? He goes on your show It's exciting hundred million viewers he needs to be flooding the zone going back on all the big shows Going on Joe Rogan going on those programs and talking directly To the people and not then going to CBS in complaining that they edited it What do you think it's like he's like the frog that's swimming across the river and the scorpion says, give me a ride. He goes we're gonna steam you to death he goes no I won't. He takes him across the scorpion stings him he's dying. He says why'd you do that? He goes on a scorpion. It's like Trump's snake story. Why is he taking the beautiful snake up to his breast? Trump your 79 I respect you your way smarter than many ways but let me explain Barrigan explained it and Steve's old like me but he knows

04:08 There are medium-sized shows with more viewers than CNN. Stop giving them power, they're dead! Let the dead bury the dead, dust off your feet, stop it, engage with us, talk directly to us, write to us and say I need you and it's over. That is the Holy Grail that is the Excalibur that is the Spirit of Destiny, that is what he must do, almost be directly to us. I need you, I need you The minute he does that nothing but victory Alex Jones patriot Hero an American original. Thank you, sir honored to have you on thank you Wow Ladies and gentlemen it is Friday

05:05 December 19, 2025. The main transmission starts now and all hell's breaking loose! We'll be back to join our stations in 60 seconds. Share those live feeds now, now, now, NOW! Ladies and gentlemen it is Friday December 19th 2025 and InfoWars thanks your prayers word of mouth support is still here on air and stronger than ever reaching more people than ever Absolutely amazing. God bless you all, we're really changing the world together This Brown University thing from start to finish has been very suspicious We said the day after the two students got killed and nine others wounded that when you saw the MIT head of one of the top black budget free energy plasma energy systems getting killed

06:12 execution style that this looks suspicious, then I thought it was connected. I wasn't the only one saying that and so we should look at it now the fact that were told he did it this individual from Europe from Portugal has been here decades but when you read the finer statements they're admitting now he's just a suspect So I hope there's never some mass shootings or some killings and I'm missing for a week And I'm found dead in a storage shed and they just say oh That's it. You know Alan Shones did it?

06:50 This whole thing is extremely suspicious. We're going to be looking at that, they say he went to school 20 plus years ago for a couple of years in that very engineering department and then he knew the MIT or was in school in Portugal decades ago with the man who became the head of the MIT super secret science department If you know anything about the statistics on scientists in those areas of advanced technology, free energy, bio weapons you name it. It's incredible how many of them are executed or murder suicided or get run over by black vans or disappeared there is a lot of stuff going on there so when you have somebody that powerful that important look how much Epstein was targeting MIT and Harvard with his sex operations and payoffs I mean its just their

07:46 There are different intelligence agencies and corporations and espionage as thick as thieves in there. But I'm gonna table that, and then move into it a little bit later cuz we've got a lot to hit there. The big stuff I wanted to plow through is some of the good news Trump continues to follow through cutting off money to globalists and censorship groups and the NGOs. And if you cut their money off it's over. That's why before Trump got in with Doge

08:22 Democrats would have their big violent rallies, 10,000 20,000 will show up. 5,000 to 1000 show up in Austin now they have the rallies 100 show because before they were basically all paid agitators that's an example of cutting the blood supply off these guys taxpayer money but look at this is just one of things US spends 41 billion tech deal with UK over online censorship laws Canada Europe New Zealand Australia they're all passing stuff that is so draconian anti-Western values, it just boggles the mind. And where is America standing up to that? Well before we had Obama and then Hillary and even when she was out of office and then Biden's people lobbying the EU, lobbying the UK to try to project their laws and regulations in lawsuits and fines over here to control us. That's what this is all about! That's why they targeted Elon Musk with all 140 million

09:31 Euro fine and now they say it may be criminal and Brazil wants to come after him criminally. If they can get him, they can get us all! They need to shut him up to shut up X to shut us up because just X being freed up is now forcing all the other tech platforms To back off a lot of their censorship It's still intense but not as intense as it was we see it And so that's important beachhead will beginning with that Also, more details of the bans that they've announced and the legislations passed the House but regulatory Kennedy can do it saying it is basically child abuse to do these sex surgeries. This is something that you don't have any authorization to do under the medical code meaning basically it's illegal because anybody can sue you and win instantly now if they continue this garbage in Europe's already banded and also

10:31 prison time for people that violate the regulations, pulling all the federal funding out of states to try to continue it. That is just beautiful but now we have more details of what he announced yesterday on specific rules and it's even more hardcore than I thought so that is really good and again I see a lot of people online...it's become quite the issue because the left really drives in as a wedge They have national leftist television, but it's CNN and MSNBC. Almost no one watches that. But the folks with their online podcasts and shows on YouTube and the rest of it have pretty big audiences, millions of viewers. So I see my name pop up every day in the feeds, and I'll click on it and watch some of it. And it's like, One day Jones is mad at Trump! The next day he loves Trump! He's crazy! He's gone nuts or they'll run with Oh, Jones has turned on Trump. He's totally done

11:26 Then a week later go, look he's flip flopped now he's for Trump. That's all lies you see the show I know this is really wonderful thing This is something that can do better This is somebody bad as administration we need to go after and target like when Chip Roy meant well Thought he was making MTG's bill better once he got informed that he was wrong He pulled his amendment and I've been said hey, I think chip Roy's bad but All the big top groups that want to ban the transgender garbage wrote this bill. She's had years to write this, it's a beautiful bill Why are you trying to throw amendments on it? It'll derail it and actually allow states to continue operating and do as they want to He pulled his amendment, it passed Now we got through the Senate And there is a lot of political pressure

12:16 on the Senate to do the right thing for the people, but there's all that big lobbying money from Big Pharma and then the big universities and medical centers that want make all this money with taxpayers paying for me to lay the children. But the point is we're moving the ball, we're winning the game, and we're putting more points on the board than we've ever done before so take heart! But when I see Trump going the wrong way—and i've been right every time—I am gonna come down not on him, but on his administration and everybody. And make as big a noise as I can and the great news is they're listening. We're seeing a lot of course correction. And here's the key I'm gonna get to her in just a few minutes after I cover Ben Shapiro attacking me. Yes Trump has

13:01 Close to the lowest poll numbers he's ever had in a wide spectrum of polls, but still over sample Democrats and do some bending and manipulation. But overall he is little higher than they say but still you can use it as the trend to know people are pissed off at him for lot of reasons. Some reasonable some not. You just have to know the alternative. Here is what I need to understand that we're not completely doomed There are a whole bunch of scientific polls out, we'll be getting to that the Democrats are even in more trouble. You see just because Trump is near an all time low from this admin in the last just a point or two away the Democrats are even polling lower because remember for over a year and a half they keep breaking records for the lowest polling numbers and it keeps dropping and breaking records for the lowest amount of fundraising show it's like the song Helter Skelter I'm coming down fast but miles above you see

14:08 So, the Democratic Party is no longer the dominant party. The Republican Party is not the populist party it's the blue collar party It's the common sense party, it's the party of people, it's a party of black people and Hispanics and Asians The numbers are all defecting over In time... ...the Democratic Party won't even be a party anymore in just a few years on its current trajectory That's why they're so desperate But we don't want Trump to continue to sink because they've got enough fraud baked in that if he doesn't win by 10, 15 points depending on the state. They'll be able to override his win and steal it or talk about the midterms. And because of the time we're in everything accelerated everything compressed every election here going out will be the most important because the next one will be more important than last. That's a no brainer this 2026

15:05 If we're gonna continue to get Trump's agenda rammed through, and he's getting a lot more done than he did last time. It's amazing. Sure, we need to have more urgency because the globalists are hopping mad pulling all the stops but they have to also look at all the angles and just understand as long as we have the urgency, as long as we educate the public about the real choices they have, a planned globalist economic collapse, cloward and piven social engineering to make us poor so they can control us in their own words. As long as we expose their horrible evil agendas that are super unpopular and explain yeah Trump isn't perfect but he's what we got

15:44 And we can't just hope he gets it all done. We have to get it done at the local and state level, and at the cultural level, and with our families and friends. And just every little thing you do to get healthier, spend more time with your family pray to God more plan a garden go speak with city council, the county commission getting engaged in the left could sure get out of getting engaged because they're getting paid for it one way or another with your tax money but as populist conservative nationalists We have to make getting politically involved as important as tailgating for football games. Sure, tailgating is fun eat chili and drink beer and hang out with your friends and wonderful then go see the game look but you were in a crisis you have to quite frankly obviously being politically involved engages way more important than tailgating I'm just saying imagine if American conservatives and populists were engaged as much as they are in sports as they are in politics

16:47 We've got to get disengaged from all the stuff that doesn't matter at the end of the day and put as, at least as much energy. Go do your tailgating I'm just simply saying we're in a crisis and the left are focused and they're engaged and they're not planning on giving up but they are losing so we've got all of that news coming up And then i didn't get much to it yesterday and had so much and now have all this new stuff today on Islam going into high gear against us and saying they are And so we're gonna be hitting that. And then you can juxtapose the red carpet in Europe, the red carpet in the United States everywhere in the West to the Islamists and others. Meanwhile, in places like Minnesota illegal aliens get triple the welfare than a disabled veteran gets and now we have the videos they are the same thing in the UK which showed up few weeks ago They let the gypsies rob caravans That's what they call it in Europe mobile homes

18:01 RVs and the courts actually say well, it's part of their culture. So yeah no charges you just don't do it again That's like what they rape children in the Muslims. Well, it's part of their culture They didn't know that a whole bunch articles and Europe today where they go. Oh your rapes five kids It's alright knows y'all time. Are you kidnapped? A woman held her near it's okay. It's your culture. It's like Minnesota Oh, you're right much women now you kidnap one and held her for six days Yeah, no jail time I have the newscast. Rape, rape, rape, rape, rape, rape, rape, rape, rape, rape, but you're a Somali that's your culture enjoy! In fact you should just bring your 10 year old daughter out to them and say hey it's your culture hospitality like Christians play Christmas carols and give their neighbors cookies and eggnog if they come over well let's say hey lets just give them our daughters although they rape boys too here just rape em we are evil white people just rape em please i'm not joking her this is how evil this is

18:59 So, lawsuit filed over Minnesota officials weaponized zoning laws against free camping program for disabled veterans. That's right! Oh no no no we're not gonna let a private property area set up an area for disabled veterans and set them up tents No no no oh by the way they just found 9 billion more in stolen money by our precious Somali friends in Minnesota So now the number is over $25 billion discovered in just the last month. $25 billion! But homeless veterans, you can't sleep in a tent. Remember that you can at the migrant hotels four stars all of it and literally The irony is the homeless vets got caught sleeping under a bush In a rainstorm and the cops come and say yeah

19:59 And then can we send a hotel? No, you can't. And the magistrates actually said nope, the migrants get first always nothing for you everything for them and you're like that's horrible That's mean that's whole point it's called rubbing your face in it It's called dominating what she gonna do The Muslims and every town over in England march around with machetes and swords They uh, the Shiites have seen where they just really cut themselves and they scream and yell at the police And they march around churches threatening and they say, if I see anybody with a dog out here an unclean animal, I'm gonna kill it. The police go yes sir, but if you're an old lady then you just go pray at a Muslim event on the street or you will pray 1,000 feet from abortion clinic is praying silently that the cops come there because they know it's an invasion. They know it's a takeover. They've been paid off their part of the clergy plan

20:58 And they've got to break our will because what they're doing is totally outrageous. As predicted, it wasn't hard to predict Japan about 12 hours ago got rid of the yen carry trade and you may not care about it but it cares about you It's going to cause all sorts of craziness We've got a good idea what its gonna do Has an effect on stock markets so far Its up today But this is big big deal So I'm gonna spend some time on that

21:40 AOC says she's taking on J.D. Vance for president? She says she's gonna stomp him?! Well, I mean compared to mentally retarded Kamala Harris, she's a rocket scientist! She probably got like an 85 IQ... Kamala never probably had about 75 All her degrees were just given to her She was a political process- literal political sex operative It wasn't just Willie Brown it was on record She walked around and blow jobs banging everybody She is literally a hooker And uh..a dumb hooker And when you get her on benzos and vodka, she's pretty stupid. But I mean comparatively compared to Joe Biden and compare it to Kamala Harris the drug addict whore AOC the bartender The big juicy booty Latina is actually a rocket scientist so... She'd probably be the smartest person on earth in the movie Idiocracy right? Thoughts should be smart. Be smart huh? Thought your head would be bigger like a peanut

29:46 I'm not a talk show host as all of you know that gets in these beefs and these dramas and the soap operas. I'm about the issues, I'm about the policies, I'm about the ideas but Ben Shapiro for over a decade has sniped at me and attacked to me and lied about me and misrepresented what i stand for and he just continues to do it Oh, Alex Jones is ranting and raving. Alex Jones is talking about shadowy confederations and you know won't ever tell you who it is running things My whole broadcast for 31 years Is about explaining the different power blocks And how the systems work And how they operate That's what my reporters do It's what we all do And we bring the receipts Like the UN With the WEF And BlackRock trying to pass The Global Pandemic Treaty

30:37 to be able to lock us all down, give us four shots. I was right that the shot would erase your immune system. It would cause mass death. Ben Shapiro said dummies, that's the quote just take it you can't spread the virus and you can't get sick he put out the same talking point as Rachel Maddow on all of them He was an ever-Trumper when all the censorship started against me intensely nine years ago we got a platform six years ago He said, well they're free platforms. It's their business they can take him off though under the law they're utilities and they're not supposed to censor only takes stuff down that's illegal that violates the law so he joins the ADL Southern Property Law Center all of them supporting myself and many of you being silenced And they didn't support President Trump on January 6th They didn't expose the Fed's erection

31:35 Ben Shapiro is an Israel first, as far as I'm concerned. He ought to be a colonel in the IDF. I don't hate Israel! I don't have a heart on for Israel! I don't make up stuff about Israel! I got a lot of issues with Israel and their different governments that come and go And i've got big issues with the UK like I just did last segment with Gareth Starmer... ...and big issues with Communist China and big issues with MERS in Germany because they're trying to control us over here They're trying to get involved in our business Trump just killed a $41 billion tech deal to UK over the online censorship laws they're trying to project into America. That doesn't mean Trump hates people that are Scottish or Irish, or English me neither but we do hate Kirstarmer who we now know Hillary went years ago and asked the Labour Party to then file complaints against Republican party and Trump and his supporters to get the EU to start censoring us. So it's the same thing. And now you got Netanyahu

32:37 Saying what a month ago. There's an eight front war now America is the eighth front We've got to get in there and we've got to silence these people that are anti-semites blah blah blah And sure some of those people saying things or saying things that aren't true, whatever It doesn't matter you can't take their speech away Or then everybody loses it should know keep your hands off Of our free speech net young And that goes for you, now to Shapiro. Now he's like I'm free speech yeah i'm against all this platforming because it failed to shut down all his competition people woke up to it so it's very unpopular To go along with the censorship but back when he was one of the only people That wasn't getting censored because he was a neocon He supported it Because it directly shut down and censored and debanked Not just people that

33:37 have problems with Israel or question Israel or outright hate Israel, but just people that weren't even involved in that. Because in general he thinks well they're censoring all them and I'm part of the establishment and I'm left there, I'll have a bigger audience. And during all that censorship, that's when he got really big because he was the only thing you could had access to it so he's a little monster. And he denounced Tucker there as well while his audience is tiny now despite billions backing by Big Texas oil tycoons

34:14 that are Zionist, he's a joke. And I like the fact that America Fest TPUSA had Tucker up there saying what he wanted to say and Shapiro great having both but here is the announcement Ben Shapiro, I challenge you to debate. I challenge you anywhere anytime anyplace as long as there is neutral moderator and we don't even need a moderator we can just go at it all like the Lincoln Douglas Debate. I'll go 10 hours with you sonny boy

34:52 In fact, no moderator needed. Let's just get up here at a podium and let's just start going after it and I'm gonna eat you alive." And you know what? I predict that Ben Shapiro won't take this challenge. If he gets raised to him because I'm gonna start beating the drum on this if he doesn't do it...and I know he won't He'll say oh I'm not gonna give him attention. I'm not gonna platform him. I'm not gonna elevate him Son! I had a bigger audience than you've ever had when you were in junior high I have had the biggest hands-down English speaking program in the world for at least two years 2016, 2017. I am always in the top five

35:32 English speaking broadcasters in the world, if you look at all their numbers. You have never been bigger than me so I don't wanna hear that it's not about who is bigger it just that I've heard what you said about me and others before other similar crap Mark Levin wouldn't debate Tucker Carlson saying my show is bigger and I'm not gonna legitimize you And then said how dare you threatened my son-in law better not see you in person Said nothing about your son-in law Just made up So just keep lying, keep spewing your garbage. Keep it up Shapiro but I challenge you to a debate let's go! You talk fast you look forward and kind of bug your eyes out and we're supposed to be blown away by your incredible intelligence on a scale of 1-10 as a debater Shapiro is about 5 he's got talking points so he talks fast i'm just going to hit with the record that's why you won't do it

36:38 How much money you wanna bet that Ben, Mr. Know-it-all Shapiro will never debate me? Because everything I just said about him is true and he did. Everything he says about me is a crock of lies. Here's the clip of him yesterday at AmericaFest and again, he said more too but we can analyze each little piece of this. Jones was talking about nebulous groups really. I'm gonna play a clip of Klaus Schwab saying

37:14 He's finally resurfaced that they're afraid of an uprising against the globalists. The globalist call themselves globalists, we have open world government, open BlackRock, open ESGs, Open UN treaties all of this stuff is going on We have the EU attacking Elon Musk 140 million euro fines Trump having to battle and you're saying oh no there's no globalism There's no special interest There's nothing I mean next he'll tell us there's no such thing as Israel lobby I mean name names on that AIPAC

37:50 All those groups, what that doesn't exist. No he doesn't want a populist American people group that stands up as just citizens as our own citizen union through free association demand our liberties and our freedoms and stand for ourselves That's what it is all about so he calls everybody Hitler or Nazi And they cherry pick certain people or groups and then project into everybody that didn't bend Shapiro He says in this clip basically you get your news from me You listen to me And that's the new talking point. Oh, these people are making you pessimistic? These people don't have solutions! These people like take the shot or don't vote for Trump. Here's Ben Shapiro. We have a duty to propose solutions. That's why we have to talk about our problems in order to find the solutions. That's what politics was supposed to be about after all finding solutions to our common problems if we speak endlessly about the problems we face

38:48 Without ever positing a solution other than wrecking the system or centralizing power in a cult-like figure, we are not finding solutions. We are merely making problems worse just asking questions, positing vague conspiracies raving like Alex Jones about the secret confederacies that control your life none of it makes your life better none of it In fact, it makes your life markedly worse That's because if you truly come to believe that nothing in your life is in your control, you can't even take control of your own life. You despair of your ability to change your own circumstances and then you fail and you must not fail! That is the most amateur gaslighting there is Alex Jones doesn't give me solutions total lie Alex Jones doesn't bring receipts total lie

39:42 and you will fail if you listen to him, don't fail. You're not a failure are you? Well then don't listen to him because you'll actually hear what he has to say. Vague conspiracy theories! No I don't just criticize what's going on, I expose it just like we got that bill passed to ban the transgenderism now through the Senate Just like Kennedy is bringing forward regulations that ban it. I said we gotta get Kennedy into doing it and were doing it What are you talking about?! All I do is talk about solutions like, hey silver and gold all the market evidence shows it's gonna go up 100%, 200% in the next few years. Now is the time to get in. Didn't tell you get in last 14 years because I told you get out at the top and then you got in? Boy, is that not a solution? Is that not nailing it? Is that not bringing receipts? Shapiro, It's all I do son! You don't have intellectual depth. You don't have deep understanding. You read a bunch of talking points your fed, you go spew them out of your mouth

40:42 And everybody goes, oh what a smart young man. Here's the clip of me 23 years ago. This is just a random clip off my local TV show describing what was coming. Did they not bring this? Did they not try this? Oh, oh, oh, oh! This isn't just actually saying what's happening now. This is telling you what's coming in decades with precision, Shapiro and all of its evergreen go to it Yes, there have been oligarchies throughout history and yes today in 2002 there is a tyrannical organization calling itself the New World Order pushing for world wide government. A cashless society open borders total and complete tyranny And by creating open borders where there's no national sovereignty an only global bodies that control all of the resources

41:33 By centralizing and socializing healthcare, the state becomes God basically when it comes to your health. And then by releasing diseases and viruses and plagues upon us we then basically get shoved- We gotta find the full clip where you get shoved into these lockdown cities all of its in there The point is that...we know what were talking about I wanna hit the economy and some key developments here at a moment but first Here's a new clip of Klaus Schwab with Jimmy Dore talking about The WF is co-equal to the UN, it helps write the global regulations they're trying to force on us. This is this we're naming names Shapiro! This is what we don't want over us We don't want that you in the WEF Israel the Russians the Chinese the UK the Canadians? We don't want Blackrock that's coming into control of all the regulations and Texas sued one Saying it was racketeering mafia try to take control of our policy or pulling investment funds out of the state Will just pull our funds out of you

42:32 No, we're naming names. We're filing lawsuits. We're winning elections. We're winning the Second Amendment debate. We're winning on every front exposing the system and you are the gatekeeper Shapiro You are what the establishment never censored. You are what the globalists thought was okay to have out there to have a fake conservative. You are the establishment Shapiro! You are a wannabe Hollywood idiot You guys are wasting hundreds of millions of dollars trying to make movies so you can be movie stars. Hollywood's been dead for decades, it's over fool! Tryin'a make your new little Hollywoods, act like your a movie executive. You're an idiot! You have no vision! You're a husk! Is that a rant? Yeah and it's all true too... And its teleprompter free sweetie pie Here's Jimmy Dore on the latest bombshell Klaus Schwab developments

43:24 Klaus Schwab is getting worried. His WEF 2030 agenda has been exposed by his own arrogance about having penetrated the cabinets with his WAF puppets like Sunak in the UK, also Trudeau in Canada and they now fear the masses rising in a revolution against the elitists and the globalist New World Order. He attacks Brexit and criticizes Trump 2024, they are becoming afraid so watch this... So now they've been talking openly about doing about having all their WEF little buddies in all the cabinets in all the Western governments. Yeah for the stakeholders! And he said that out loud now people know him people are getting upset about it well here's what he says now. For this reason

44:11 What we have seen in the elections, in the United States and Brexit vote is this anger of people against globalization and against the elites. If you look what's happening in the United States practically You have this anti-system movement. What we are seeing is a revolution against the system, it's demantling the system and we see certain elements of this now in the new US administration So he say, oh my God. The people are rising up against the system that we created- Let's stop here after our guest leaves us I'm gonna go play the whole clip is a lot more and they go through it but just for Jimenez Spiro Ben said we just want to dismantle it But don't know what replace it with Oh No you see Trump what he's doing It's very specific That's what we called for He's doing

45:05 And you're saying don't dismantle it and there's Klaus Schwab over there. Shapiro, if you listen to him is always up-to-date with the very latest globalist talking points He is their boy Okay? Look at Netanyahu he's like we're gonna use Israel as a giant guinea pig place and give everybody forced injections and test all the new drugs in world Shapiro loves that So now you're starting to get it You see We just nailed your ass Shapiro What are the odds Shapiro debates me? He's scared he won't because he's a coward

45:44 Seriously, I say you fault. There's no way there's no way you're going to debate me Shapiro because i'm gonna wipe the floor with you You're gonna be crying at the end of it All right. I wanted to get Kirk Elliott on great economist Great sponsor kpm.com forward slash gold To talk about what he predicted they would do And they did. Japan just got rid today of the Yonkeri trade, and you may not care about that but it cares about you and what that's going to cause. There are other big developments Bank of Japan rate hike sparks global market anxiety. Bank of Japan raises interest rates 30-year high signals more hikes. Ooh! Bank of Japan lifts rates at 30 year high. The big news is they may go higher data problems in US inflation report will linger for months

46:44 So this is a big deal. He also sent me a bunch of other key developments, so let's move quick I'm gonna shut up as it got shown late and apologize Dr. Kirk Elliott as you predicted two years ago what silver is almost at 200% gold It's just insane talk about nailing and talking about bringing receipts talk about being right! Dr. Kirk Elliott But we were right on silver, and sadly for fundamental reasons which we expected. In January Alex, we were talking you said Kirk and he always pressed me for an answer right? It's like what's silver gonna be by the end of the year my answer was 67 to 75 120 to 140 by spring or summer today it's 6741

47:28 It exploded up because the yen. I mean, this is where it's like what does the Japanese yen have anything to do with anything? Right? And it was like okay, it's been the hidden source of global liquidity for over 30 years Alex so I'm going explain briefly how what the yen carry trade isn't that I'm gonna explain the implications that are coming because Right, so since the 1980s, the yen has had 0% interest rates. Yet they've been printing tons of yen. We've talked about and educated all of the info warriors out there. It's like when you have inflation, you don't want to lower interest rates because that'll make the inflation worse. Well they're just printing in and printing in and printing in yet they kept a 0% interest rate why?

48:24 Why would they do that? They did that because they created this thing called the yen carry trade where companies like BlackRock or JP Morgan or other countries could invest tens of billions of dollars, borrow the yen at zero and instant arbitrage. Instantly same day they could take that $10 billion that they borrowed for 0% and invested into US treasuries maybe paying 3%, or European treasuries paying 4%. Goosing stock markets it's been the global liquidity arm, its been this silent liquidity

49:05 It's caused the global expansion that we've seen over the last 30 years. So- This is how the establishment has been getting its free money? Yeah, and this is how, okay, scary thought, this has been a lot of liquidity behind crypto exploding so much. And it's like okay- Why was Japan forced to finally get rid of it I guess because it stagnated their economy so bad? No, because their inflation is so high. I mean we have 30 year mortgages right in America? They have 40 years is like the minimum sometimes they have 80 year mortgage. Because their prices and Tokyo are so high, the inflation is so high how do you slow down inflation? Well either A, you raise interest rates or B, you stop printing money

49:54 Okay, they're not stopping printing money. But yet they weren't raising interest rates either so their inflation went through the roof now they have to So Japanese citizens can actually afford to live. They have to raise interest rates because they have flooded the world with so much yen that the rest of the world now doesn't even want it, right? How do you attract more foreign capital? You give them a risk to their reward rate. The yen carry trade is unwinding there's too much debt, too much unsustainability- I understand inflation is the main issue but also You have inflation with no growth, basically.

50:35 Yeah, inflation with no growth. That's stagflation that we had during the Carter years. So here is the parallel what did Reagan have to do to stop this stagflation of Carter? He had to jack up interest rates like 18% just like freeze inflation dead in its tracks then he started lowering taxes systematically income taxes property taxes corporate taxes everything and then he created economic growth that lasted for decades span different presidents. Japan is now at the beginning stages of having to do the same thing, and they'd signaled it in the first articles that you mentioned those headlines this is just the first of many probably rate increases right so the yen carry trade is over I was about to ask it's over with this move but that that that's even more ominous but they're saying more

51:26 Yeah, they're saying more so it becomes worse with each rate increase right that mean it's over right now How could you be worse than it being over? Okay, we got a little break to do 1050 more minutes was having another meeting. I apologize but one of them Shapiro Took longer. I thought she just makes me sick but There's a lot of other economic news we're going to hit real fast too, but what does this signify? Why are all the markets so concerned? So they're not sure what's going to happen. Why is it so dangerous? Why have I been hearing for decades about if they ever got rid of the on carry trade that would just devastate things? Is that really the case will be back in two minutes with our number two, Kirk Elliott and then i'm going into all this other news All The Big World Developments there's so much we haven't even gotten into yet

52:07 Straight ahead, but briefly Dr. Kirk Elliott people need to call and get a free consultation They need to call And you can also email and then get a call back You guys phones are blowing off the hook You're the top gold and silver broker in the United States because you've got the best quality of the best prices It's wholesale every day it's not rocket science with the best ratings The only way you guys can do this is scalability. You're so big, nobody else can match you. Your hands down the best and you've got the best analysis people are crazy if they don't go to kbm.com forward slash gold and then put in their name and number and you get an email back a time to talk And you also have not just silver and gold but you also have the quickest best safest easy ways To roll over financial instruments what are few of those that you could do?

56:54 You can buy me now at thealexjonestore.com Ho ho ho ho! Merry Christmas All right, Dr. Kirk Elliott's only with us about 10-15 more minutes. He has a bunch of other financial news that is super important and look he is a mild mannered economist but he doesn't put a bunch of bells and whistles on it freak out like I do but we're in a crazy world right now And he agrees with all Trump's economic policies they are basically the exact thing to do from his perspective all I know is its a helluva lot better than the great reset making us poor on purpose so finishing up with the on carry trade and Japan saying they are going to accelerate interest rates what's that gonna do?

57:42 And then let's get into all this other stuff you sent us, Dr. Elliott. Well you think of how much the economy has grown globally not just here in Europe everywhere over the last 20 years right so So twenty trillion of that growth Twenty trillion has come from the yen carry trade Now this is not all right? So that twenty trillion is tied to about nine other leveraged investment pools, right? Which exceed 50 trillion. So as this starts to unwind let's just look at treasuries for example. Treasury basis one to $2 trillion at a 100 to 1 leverage ratio Alex so you have 2 trillion at 100 to one well that's the equivalent of 200 trillion dollar derivative unwind this is their unraveling that banks don't want to talk about

58:38 Right, this is to me when you look at this there's 957 billion in commercial real estate. Almost a trillion dollars in commercial real estate that came from the yen private credit $3 trillion that came from the yen carry trade. Zero day options 51% of the S&P 500 volume 51 percent Of all the s and p500 where does this come from yen carry trade? So now that this is over Imagine all those trillions of dollars of liquidity that aren't going to be there. I expect stock market crushing

59:18 Right, I think it's going to absolutely collapse. Bond market, I think banks start to become very illiquid and very quickly because they're not just into this borrowed yen at 0%. They leveraged it with derivatives exposure. The dumbest thing you can do with borrowed money is go into even more leverage debt but this what the global world done, right? This is what they've done. So now to me there's a cause and effect to everything we've talked a lot about the supply and demand issues London running out of silver right there's nothing that lease rates have gone up but nobody wants to fund getting metals into London because China wants the Western financial system to break To me let's just go one step more kind of big picture like

1:00:12 And that is when things are falling apart, gold and silver flight for safety. I think the price moves that we're seeing today With silver going up, you know a buck 80 or something already this morning while we're doing the show and before we started the show that is baked into The yen carry trade and this is just the beginning Alex. This is not The beginning of the end. This is the beginning of the beginning for gold and silver And I think it's the end of the end For global finance liquidity as we know it, I mean it's the silent killer. Well, I'm not a famous economist like you with great track record of accuracy but looking at what all the other economists say and just from what I know this all just points towards more inflation

1:01:00 and more in commodities. So isn't it a no-brainer to say this just adds not just the industrial needs accelerating with silver, but everything else we have with this coming in? It creates beyond the perfect storm and so will this make you change your forecast for silver going up even more?" Yes, I think it's going to go up even more. I mean, I think it's going to go up substantially more maybe by a factor of two to three times more than what I projected before and I thought it was going to go to 120 to 140. I think we could get into the low 100s like- By the way you did nail it. You remember six months ago? You said by mid December 67 silver, you literally hole in one day. We got Carnac the Magnificent here.

1:01:45 Well, you know who I have on as frequent guest? Anybody that has integrity and nails it over and over and over again. Birds of a feather fly together. And that's just the way it works. So Kyle Serafin is undoubtedly the biggest FBI whistleblower in history because there haven't been that many of them he's been dead-on He's been a game changer for years. He's gone through hell they've tried to put him in prison for it and he just keeps calling it to the day He said months ago, I think before Christmas Bongino's gone. Nailed it! He said a week before, I think he'll be gone by the next Friday. He'll announce on Friday that he is leaving. He nailed it! Now you actually have sources. It's kind of easy to nail when you have the sources. The point is they're all calling him now. He has big scoops on the ongoing Epstein saga and we predicted that when the deadline hit today they weren't going to release all this stuff so he's popping in at the start of the next hour back with somebody who keeps nailing it

1:02:50 And again, the Democrats have 1,000 times more to worry about what's in this stuff than Trump. Then why does the Trump administration keep doing this? Because it embarrasses a bunch of billionaires that are Democrats that are Trump's buddies and I'm not defending what Trump has done. He is obliquely joining in to this Epstein Mossad CIMI6 crap because Ratcliffe was asking him too and I get national security all that. Look at Bannon. He's like, yeah I went and interviewed him. Yeah he was big in politics. Yeah i went over there and had meetings and interviews. Big deal! Move on! Steve Bannon ain't screwing 14 year old girls? I mean it's just Steve Bannon is a great guy Trump didn't do anything so

1:03:32 90 plus thousand files that the Epstein family gives the Democrats. The Republicans sit there, don't even pick through it Don't release the badge of all Democrats and all the Democrats had was 19 files, 19 photos Two of them with Trump at public events With beauty queens from The New York Post They recited oh we blocked your faces out or these victims I mean it's a joke people Epstein was a socialite He was in all the big things All the big meetings Mover and shaker investments Billions I'm gonna shut up. Back to Kirk Elliott, closing out on this Dr. Elliott overall what else should we be looking at the economy? Obviously the Democrats have been trying to crash the markets everywhere they have the headlines 60 minutes CNN oh that crashes here 29 2.0 it's not worked so far the stock market is up today despite the unwinding of the you know the Japanese John Kerry trade ending what should we would we'd be looking at and i know it's hard to know right now but what are the different

1:04:37 scenarios that could unfold now with this development in Japan. Well, you nailed it Right before we cut off here and it's like okay. What what comes next is when the global liquidity dries up Governments and central banks all over the world are gonna have to go to their own printing press They still have to run their countries right which they're dead up to their eyeballs They've been relying on the yen carry trade at 0% to help fund that, but they don't have that anymore So you're gonna have Jerome Powell Sneaking over to the printing press pressing the red button create inflation here. You're gonna have the European Central Bank doing the same you're gonna have the Bank of Japan Doing the same because they're no longer going to get foreign money coming in To fund everything you're gonna I mean literally every central bank around the world without the yen carry trade offering 0% loans together

1:05:31 To go elsewhere, they're gonna have to resort to their own printing press. Alex this is global inflationary chaos that's gonna cause everything to go up in price that's a tangible asset but But things that are tied on people's money being spent, like the stock market. Like the bond market when people are strapped for capital because inflation is too high they're going to stop buying things this is why I think stock markets coming down by gold and silver going up now. The only stuff that's gonna go up in value is gonna be land food key infrastructure gold silver copper but you can't have a bunch of copper folks

1:06:11 So the point is silver's the way to go. It hasn't had the main moves yet, it's got the most growth baked in as you predicted two years ago and that's why it's a number one investment in the world hands down golds like number 2 show how much is it over performing gold right now? I'll buy at least two to one. I mean silvers up 135% year-to-date Gold's up like 65%. That's more than doubling and you'll sell people gold if they want it but your telling them don't do that Yeah, I would do silver. When they're both equally as safe why would i do something at 60% when you can get over 130%, right? And you've got equations to know when you convert and use the silver profits that then go into gold once the real acceleration of gold comes what is that

1:06:55 Probably in the first quarter, we're going to start doing that. It's the ratio between gold and silver coupled with newer kind of elements of bank liquidity right? We found out that the banks do not want to settle metals transactions which is why London ran out so we're looking at bank liquidity were looking at the ratio between gold and silver. We're looking at people's growth some of my clients are big deal. The fact that banks are backing out big gold and silver trades, they know how volatile it is. They're scared it could explode 10-20% even in a day! They don't want to get caught with their pants down that I think that's the biggest indicator yet

1:07:33 It's it's huge and we know how to beat the banks at their own system, right? So so this is why the strategy of locking in profits in silver when they've more than doubled Going into gold. This global financial system Alex is going to get worse not better which means ultimately Gold will start to outperform silver probably in a year do a year and a half but don't be in it yet being silver because silver is going to explode in value over gold because of the nature of it. It's an industrial and a financial- I'm up here doing a hard sell, because it's like hey you're about to jump out of an airplane skydiving? You need a parachute! This is like...I mean you've already got your phones blown off the wall but it should be...folks

1:08:19 a month ago, he predicted there'd be little corrections and it went down to $2. So we went oh look see it's over Jones and Elliot are wrong and it goes shoots up eight more bucks you know it's like folks the fundamentals are baked in I've never seen a more sure thing in my life uh I've had the enemy you know I'm going to take everything.

1:08:55 I'm not asking you to thank me. I'm just saying we're in the fight together, support our sponsors while you get the very best investment from the highest rated place that sells it wholesale so you know exactly what you're doing. I like it to go into Hawaii and you got these cliffs only the 500 foot ones but I've jumped off 100 foot one and its crystal clear. You see stingrays and turtles down there and you know and you just watched 20 people jump off ahead of ya so you know it's safe You don't go up the side of a river somewhere and it's brown water and churning, and you don't know if there are rocks down there. I'm not going to jump into brown water from two feet up!

1:08:19 a month ago, he predicted there'd be little corrections and it went down to $2. So we went oh look see it's over Jones and Elliot are wrong and it goes shoots up eight more bucks you know it's like folks the fundamentals are baked in I've never seen a more sure thing in my life uh I've had the enemy you know I'm going to take everything.

1:08:55 I'm not asking you to thank me. I'm just saying we're in the fight together, support our sponsors while you get the very best investment from the highest rated place that sells it wholesale so you know exactly what you're doing. I like it to go into Hawaii and you got these cliffs only the 500 foot ones but I've jumped off 100 foot one and its crystal clear. You see stingrays and turtles down there and you know and you just watched 20 people jump off ahead of ya so you know it's safe You don't go up the side of a river somewhere and it's brown water and churning, and you don't know if there are rocks down there. I'm not going to jump into brown water from two feet up!

1:09:32 It's simple, folks. Don't do that or it'll break your neck and break your legs but if it's a safe place people jumping off you know it's safe People are doing in front of you This is blue water this is crystal clear But you don't have to jump off 100 feet just protect yourself You just gotta step into the water It's like those little pools that have the tiny edge that goes where a baby can crawl on ya know? It is so ridiculous That the people perish for lack of knowledge And I, it's just amazes me that even more people aren't getting into silver because there is such a tiny amount of it in the world. And then that's all just like you're revising your estimates that it's going to be for more. I agree with you what's going to happen as it continues to run out? It could create...I want to predict this just in general. There could be some mega spikes and unavailability to come where you'll think you get a big drop but it actually just goes up after that so

1:10:26 I think there could be some scares here only because, Dr. Elliott we can see explosive spikes that are outside the trend people shouldn't then freak out if it goes down after an explosive spike what do you call that? a gift, because it's just it's a speculative blow off right? But what you have is a buying opportunity on the dip and then and then it just goes up. That's basically the technical correction after a dip one of those spikes Alex that I think we're going to get for strong fundamental reasons remember about a year ago when we were talking about Samsung and their new solid core Silver State battery which was going to change the electrical vehicle market

1:11:09 something even bigger than Samsung just happened. So BYN, largest EV manufacturer in the world is like what's that? It's a Chinese EV manufacturer. They just now started their own solid silver core battery technology because it'll let their cars go 1000 miles without recharging they'll charge up in 20 minutes and it will last 20 years. See, these electric vehicle manufacturers like we predicted Samsung was going to change the EV market. So now these different automobile manufacturers in the EV market are going to be competing

1:11:51 For the 800 million ounces of silver that are mined every year, just one manufacturer is gonna take up 20% of all the global manufacturing. Just this BYN company or what about Samsung? What about Boeing and Lockheed Martin? What about electronics? What about AI chips? What about solar? Alex, the demand is so outpacing the supply. We've already talked a bunch how there is no supply, now with all this excess demand that is going to cause a spike. So whenever you see a down day which you have a correction, corrections are good when people are locking in profits that's why things correct-

1:12:36 Yeah, people locking in profits is not bearish. That's bullish so when you see that buy on the dip because when the fundamentals haven't changed there's another spike coming. All right Dr. Elliott it's a no-brainer I've never seen such a sure thing in my life other than the love of my mama's eyes KPM.com forward slash gold 720605300 then they won't even on their website direct sell you silver and gold It's not some timeshare pitching that they want to talk to you get to know You find out what you're looking for blah blah blah if you want to get into shark pit quite frankly almost every other gold company out there It's not the golden silvers bad it's the best thing so like I said in the savannah in the summer In Africa all the wetlands dropped as these pools, and the water is good. You need it That's kpm.com or it's like old

1:13:24 That's Kirk Elliott British Metals. But at the waterhole are the crocodiles, the hippos, the lions uh... The hyenas, the jackals and cheetahs So when you're trying to get silver and gold folks You better do some basic research And you better not go to basically anybody that is big other than Kirk Elliott There are mom-and-pop shops around town Buy it when it was before lower and sell it to you at wholesale because they already had it. Yeah, I can go get gold at wholesale in Austin right now little bits of it or silver You ain't getting on the market folks I can't believe how corrupt the market is and I know you're not a troublemaker And either am I Kurt but we were talking this weekend We need to go ahead and do it because This is so important when we have a responsibility protect people not just promote you

1:14:07 We need, because guys I can get $3 million a month and solve all our problems. Ripping people off selling them numismatics so we got a couple hundred thousand dollars a month because that's how small his margins are but i'd rather do that and people get the good mojo but I think we have to go to war uh And if you're willing to it I'll name names If we don't have to we can explain it But its basically goes from bad to worse and is shameful Kirk Elliot Precious Metals forward slash gold KPM comforts as gold is the water at the Waterhole It's the water and you look at it And it's like a convention of gangsters when you get there trying to rob your ass because it is the answer Kirk Elliott Thank you so much You bet, my pleasure.

1:15:05 Because you got to sell something to make money unless you scale up like Kirk. I mean, it's hard with the margins he has that are so small even make money but by scalability you're able do it but most people can't do that. So quite frankly Kirksey is better than my original sponsor who was the best at the time I mean, it's sick how he was able to scale up like this. This is very hard to do if nobody else has done it basically and these other people that were cutthroats. I mean absolute cutthroats and I'm not differentiating my sponsor from where you've been getting gold silver so you go to my guy with Kirk It's wholesale for 25 years You know the daily wholesale price you get great service delivered to you for an 8% deal Sellback no cost Nobody does that

1:15:52 And that's the big one, cannot do better. I didn't mean to go into infomercial mode it just love pushing stuff that works. I just feel good you know? This is Texas hospitality but i loved to have family or friends over back when I had time. I loved to grill steaks and cook the dishes myself and some pretty good cooks. And I'd love getting all out and see if... It just feels good! You know what I mean? Good old-fashioned hospitality a win-win Whereas the globalists want to burn down society, burn down civilization. It's absolutely disgusting now I really am almost ashamed i'm gonna spend time on Ben Shapiro today already spent some time on him but he's emblematic of the people in the Republican Party that want us to get the time machine and go back to 2003 and George W Bush bombing Iraq and all the rest that crap

1:16:49 I mean, his record is un-American. The stuff he has done is so disgusting and then he comes out attacks me and says, I don't give specifics, I don't give facts, I don't give hope that's a total lie all we do is give specifics in facts and hopes to get you motivated but then it went further and I'll play this after the break He laughed about the USS Liberty and lied about it So woke up at 3am couldn't sleep well last night and was sent the speech from yesterday. And I thought I watched all, whole hour of it. I guess I didn't because Rob do came here a newsreader said why aren't you talking about him in the Liberty? So I'm sitting there in bed watching my phone with me almost a few times nod off anybody that can sleep. You know what is your like sitting there but then he kind of falls asleep for a minute. I must have missed this. This is really bad but going out to break here's the six minutes compilation we put together with his speech

1:17:50 versus the reality of what's happening in the world. Here it is, we'll be right back. To Tucker Carlson unfortunately the Constitution is a mere ruse, a sham Instead Tucker Carlson promotes a conspiracy theory by which the American people have lost total control of their lives and thus have no real ability to shape policy Tucker Carlson believes that foreign powers have hijacked our government That conspiratorial elite immovable and undefeatable other than through centralized power has taken control In 2018, Tucker Carlson said Washington leaders have confirmed our country's democracy is fake. If the population starts to believe it's all fake that they're not really in charge their votes don't matter what will they do? Well what they would do presumably is revolution because if our constitutional structures are utterly insufficient we have lost control The fragmentation of the political right

1:18:38 That fragmentation is being caused purposefully by a splinter faction of people led by a young man named Nick Fuentes. They call themselves the Groypers, they are white supremacists, they hate women, Jews, Hindus many types of Christians brown people have a wide variety of backgrounds blacks America's foreign policy and America's constitution. The admire Hitler and Stalin and that splinter faction is now being facilitated and normalized within the mainstream Republican Party The main agents in that normalization is Tucker Carlson, who is an intellectual coward a dishonest interlocutor and a terrible friend. And Tucker Carlson last week was aided abetted celebrated for normalizing Nazism within the Republican Party by the mainstay organization of the traditional right, The Heritage Foundation Let's just be clear about this if the primaries were held today I would vote for Ron DeSantis

1:19:26 I would vote for him. It turns out that many of us actually were not huge fans of Trump in 2016 If you're a young person and can't afford to live here, then maybe you should not live here That is a real thing That's why the existence of the state of Israel is single greatest guarantor Of my loyalty to United States frankly Because Israel exists it means that United States will be more welcoming place For me because Israel there as backstop incase anything goes wrong Here was Steve Bannon over weekend praising Nick Fuentes The reason this happening we should point out is because there is an attempt to glaze pretty much everybody who is on the anti-Israel, and yes, I mean once it's just an anti-Semite.

1:20:05 anti-semitic side in order to shift policy priorities away from what President Trump is attempting to do. No, to the Groypers! No, to their publicists like Tucker Carlson! No, to those who champion them! No, to demoralization! No, to bigotry and anti meritocratic horseshit just asking questions positing vague conspiracies raving like Alex Jones about the secret confederacies that control your life none of it makes your life better. None of it! In fact, it makes your life markedly worse." In fact he's been called by some a prophet Tucker Carlson literally called him a prophet on his program so actually this is a person whose own lawyer made the case in a custody hearing with his ex-wife that he was a performance artist This wasn't even the Sandy Hook trial where you tried to mix up the same case His lawyers claim that this man of integrity Is in fact A performance artist

1:20:57 Quote, he's playing a character and is nothing like his online persona. Attorney Randall Wilhite reportedly insisted in a Texas courtroom at a pretrial hearing ahead of the right wing radio jocks custody battle with ex-wife Kelly Jones Judging Jones by his Infowars performances would be like judging Jack Nicholson by his depiction of the Joker on Batman. That's his own lawyer saying that! His own lawyer is saying that he was a performance artist. There are certain diseases, like mumps measles rubella, like MMR right? Which which are highly transmissible and where you require herd immunity specifically to prevent against the transmission of that disease To people who cannot have vaccinations So I'm speaking specifically about pregnant women kids with cancer or that sort of thing

1:21:37 And that prevents the transmission of that disease to other people, then you run into the externality problem. And even libertarians believe that externalities are not protected. protected by law. Meaning that if you are polluting a river and you're upstream of somebody else, well sure it's... A river? You're polluting it but the problem is that pollution is affecting somebody else downstream. You don't have the right to do that in typical way this has done is saying you can't attend public school unless you get the vaccination which makes certain amount sense he don't want expose general public transmission disease shouldn't be able to be in public with other children in order to get parents too vaccinate their children thousands hours of tape

1:22:14 There are, by the way. But they are child pornography. The reason the FBI is not releasing them is because those tapes do not include underage people with third parties on Epstein Island. That is not what the tapes are. I also have sources in the federal government who are covering this stuff and have seen the documents. Those tapes are just child porn. That's all that's what they are. That's why the FBI is not releasing them As far as the Epstein list, what I have been told by my sources is that there is no Epstein list. There's no evidence according to the DOJ and the FBI again that's public. There's no evidence that any of those third parties were having girls trafficked to them. This is our country this is our party and this is our conservative movement And I will not stand by while it is handed over to those who betray the most fundamental principles I've spent my entire life defending in advocating

1:25:22 He is a symbol of everything that's wrong in this country and wrong in the world. He is an Israeli first operative, he is a neocon, he supported the lockdowns, the poison shots, the censorship on myself and others, I never Trump her. He attacked Trump on Jan 6th and after when that was set up, then he had billions of dollars of funding from Zionist oil company in Texas out of Frisco, look it up. That bankrolled their whole daily wire operation and from all sorts of other Israeli foreign money. And again I don't have a fetish for hating Israel

1:26:03 It's a total open climate for that now because it is seen as the edge lording and the zeitgeist. You know, it would be safe for me to come out and wear Hitler uniform right now and say, I don't like Hitler! I don't hate Jews in general! I don't have a heart on them! I don't describe things to Jews they haven't done everybody knows that when they said Charlie Kirk was killed by Israelis with no evidence I said I don't see that got attacked everywhere by people who are obsessed with that. I'm into covering facts And Israel is heavily involved in our politics, heavily involved manipulating our foreign policy. Spying on us all of it I don't like the US ambassador. I like him as a person overall nice person lot of good policies overall but i don't like Mike Huckabee meeting with Jonathan Pollard the spy at the U.S embassy in Israel all this stuff But I do want the Abraham Accords! I do want peace! I don't want Israel blown up! I don't want the Palestinians all blown up!

1:26:58 Just to be honest, I don't want from the rivers of the sea crap. I'm not allied with Islam. I'm an American and I'm in America first person. And for over a decade, I have had Ben Shapiro attack me and lie about me and misrepresent what I've said and done. And I've hardly ever responded to it but he gave a speech at America Fest TPUSA yesterday. And he laughed about the USS Liberty and the attack on that ship

1:27:39 And said it was an accident. No bend, everybody knows it wasn't an accident. It's been in the Israeli news that some of the first planes refused to attack the ship with a US flag and turned around so they sent new unmarked planes. And then they attacked with gunboats and everything else for hours and hours. Then they sent Israeli commandos on helicopters who later came out in the Israeli news said those are Americans we refuse these orders. They tried to court martial some Boy, good thing Ben Shapiro wasn't on that helicopter. You think he would refuse the order? It's the most decorated ship in US history. I've interviewed more people from the USS Liberty than anybody else and you know why nobody can interview more because most of them are dead. And went further, I interviewed Admiral Sun who talked about his father getting a call from LBJ over the sat phone, they had sat phones then saying, I want that GD ship on the bottom and turning back to aircraft twice trying to save the ship

1:28:46 And so they had a deal to do a Gulf of Tonkin like they've done a few years before, to get us into Vietnam War. But those weren't real attacks on ships and it came out pretty quickly that LBJ had staged it in 2004 they declassified the famous tapes of Nixon with McNamara Secretary Defense saying they're gonna attack our ship tomorrow you're gonna make this announcement here It is and this is what you say hadn't happened yet They didn't attack our ships So they were like well we better figure out a way to go to war with Egypt and try to get Russia in on it during this war Israel's having. The US wanted to use that to go to war with Egypt, try to drag the Russians in, thank God didn't work. Boy, God was looking after us then because we got into nuclear war and so LBJ got with the Israelis changed the course of the ship ordered it to not have its frigate protection that they had and parked it right there for the Israelis to attack

1:29:47 Now, the Nazis that think only corruption come out of Jews always get mad at me and they got really pissed when I had the judge advocate general that ran the secret trial. When I had the son of the admiral on when I had a whole bunch people from the ship on The first mate all up can have the captain he was dead by time I was doing interviews on us. I've done hundreds of these I made films fabled enemies on this And the Nazis got pissed as they went, no LBJ is not involved. Israel did it? No it proves It was a false flag with LBJ criminal elements of Pentagon and Israel to get the US fully into the war and try to suck the Russians in at a proxy war like you're seeing Ukraine. I got this and learned all this when I was having Admiral Moore came on about it He was the chairman of the joint chief staff later he was the head of the Navy

1:30:45 when the USS Liberty got attacked. And he talked about this, so he explained the strategy I didn't even understand all this. Is it true Israel did this back when? I'm doing these interviews 25-30 years ago. So I have so much knowledge on this to watch Shapiro laugh about it and say it's an accident had a gigantic flag on it. Captain McGonigal, when they pulled their support ship off of them that were in the main spy ship at the Mediterranean. He said this has never happened in all my years out here This is one of our top spy ships. He said, he had a feeling of it said get the biggest flag we've got running up and here come the Israeli mirages marked that don't attack they see their flags McGonigal waves this is all on record that court hearings on but then we later learned from Israeli news credit to them that they were ordered to attack it and said no so there are waving at the guys flying right over the ship even got photos of

1:31:55 They're like, Israelis hi you are our ally. Hi no they were supposed to strafe you they didn't do it well credit to the folks running Israel government they had blacked out planes with no insignias ready just in case and here come those planes and then come the gunboats torpedo boats and more planes and more planes hours after hour after hour after hour after hour after hour The captain has guts blown out tied his guts into his body shoved him back into himself Dead people everywhere on fire thousands of holes giant torpedo holes But they couldn't sink it because God didn't want the ship to go down Because most historians now believe Russia would have come in fully with an attack on Egypt nuclear war and that little snot-nosed punk Shapiro if he deflected the question and said oh, that's a historical thing. You got to research yourself or something He'd been a pussy out of but not a bit got mad at him

1:32:59 We know you're an Israeli agent, you absolutely are a scumbag. You don't have one 100th of the goodness that the commandos and helicopters that refused to go on the ship and kill everybody had not followed any legal order. You don't have 1-100th courage of the first wave of jets that refuse and said that's an American flag because they tried to court martial him when it came out in court, the radio transmissions were like no, that's an American ship. No I'm not doing it so they had them come back Put more people on, fly back. And the Nazis get mad because I tell the actual story and they go don't make the Jews look good some of them didn't want to do it blah blah blah No this is crazy folks! This was our government with Israel doing it You see our government does evil stuff too Recognize that its everywhere Evil is in all groups all countries all people and when there's evil you oppose it but you don't oppose from a how Hitler only Jews can do bad stuff thing It's not a defense of Jews Its a defense of reality

1:34:04 And the total proof from the major secret, almost year-long hearings they had with all the top judge advocate generals in there. This is a big deal and they had their findings and they kept it secret. The Admiral with all the sick troops that survived all blown up cars he'd never seen so bad before The admiral went into each one of the survivors and said, tell me what you saw. At the end he said this is national security we've been authorized under national security of treason there'll be no trial if you tell anybody what you know you will be killed and I've interviewed dozens of people including officers that were told by the Admiral who did send planes twice to save it McNamara comes on and says it's in order He says I'm not gonna follow your order I want from the president so the President sat Lynx in

1:34:57 And they had sat phones even by then, that break into their radio wave system and says I want that GD ship on the bottom. As understood this is a direct order from the president to pull back those planes. I want that GD ship on the bottom and five helicopters of Israelis with commandos were approaching those big troop carrier ones. And they flew over and they left we've got the testimony. And then some of those people later testify in Israel tell the news yeah, we just decided we weren't gonna do it Well, that's very nice of you. What did these Americans do? And it was because some of them had been raised in America were American they went to fight for Israel and they're like we're about to go on a US ship that we've been blasting the snot out of and kill these heroes what by hell are we doing That's the real story of liberty and then Ben Shapiro makes a sick joke out of it laughs about it he just little demonic piggy or something check those evil eyes like

1:36:10 And so it's a joke to him. Man, couldn't you say that's been a sad part of history heavily debated? War zone confusing blah blah blah. He was like, yeah it was a mistake. Yeah I covered the US government staging false flags throughout history William McKinley, Trump models himself after him. That's when we came an empire that the US government got everybody off the ship that night in Havana Harbor in 1898 blew up the main The battleship the main is historically admitted to blame it on the Spanish so he could take all of their coaling stations So our fleets could take the Pacific now at least The Navy got the troops off the ship before they blew it up the Maine the Lusitania Galvatron can

1:37:16 Our government has done stuff like this, and it's wrong. But it's a tactic of war so just say it's a tactic of war like the Levant affair or the King David Hotel. Instead no Israel never does anything bad. Israel is perfect and you better shut up let us do whatever we want well guess what? We're not and that's the distinction though that's the distinction is look at things, unbiased do the research tell the truth be honest and lay it out so we can reprove and fix all the groups and all the governments and all the systems instead of making it tribal. Oh well this Somali there's like seven or eight cases yesterday

1:38:08 Raped all these women and they never gave him a jail sentence, and he just kidnapped it raped another woman And they're gonna let him out of jail again. Well we can't let the white supremacist be right We've got all this black on white crimes. So I'll just let them go see if it's like It's crazy its black people want to fix the problem in the black community more than anybody Let's help them instead of turn all the black criminals loose so the black criminals think they had a license to go crazy and go crazy if there was open season that you told white people you commit any crime you want There'd be a certain percentage of white people that would just go out and start doing crazy stuff, because you just gave them license to do it. And that is literally what the white liberals have done and they're not stupid. They know what they're doing. And so when Ben Shapiro tries to give Israel a license to do anything how's that working out for you? I challenge you to debate. You've told enough lies about me but that's not why i want to bait you.

1:39:18 on all the issues. Three hours, four hours long no moderator just a clock I get three minutes you get three minutes i get five minutes you get five minutes Whatever you want time wise, one minute one minute. One minute one minute I say long form five minutes five minutes in fact let's do a filibuster. I challenge you to an unlimited debate and you know it would have a billion viewers And you know what dominate but she won't do it because you know I got the facts and you know I'll wipe the floor with your son It'll be like Mike Tyson Fighting a garden gnome. I will destroy you and you know that's why he won't do it

1:40:08 You little coward. So here he is on the USS Liberty Thank you for being here Ben you cited during your speech truth as the most important tenet of American conservatism Why therefore did you call irrelevant? The Israeli attack in 1967 on the USS Liberty was left dozens of American servicemen dead and hundreds wounded So, what I actually said is that if we're looking at modern Israeli-American relations looking at an attack that happened mistakenly by multiple Navy reports, multiple Israeli reports and all available evidence. And using that attack in order to undermine today's relations between Israel and America That's irrelevant

1:40:59 as irrelevant as it would be to cite a piece of evidence from World War II or from 1776, to define America's relations with for example Great Britain or Germany today. That does not mean that the attack wasn't horrible for the Americans involved, that it wasn't bloody and terrible The Israeli government paid reparations to people who were killed If you look at the actual military record on what happened on USS Liberty It was clearly mistaken and tragic attack The people who frequently cite the USS Liberty, however are not talking about the specifics of the USS Liberty. I suspect that the vast majority of people who bring this up are doing so in order to suggest that Israel deliberately attacked an American ship because Israel deliberately wants to harm America is connected generally with a larger point. I wonder if that's your point? If the truth matters

1:41:45 then the Israeli government must be held accountable for that attack. The American flag was flying on that ship, you do not mistake an American ship for a foreign one when our flag is flying so... We can spend the rest of the time talking about specifics of US Liberty attack or you can actually go look at the naval investigations that were done, multiple naval investigations that were done. The reality is people are flying Mirage planes for Israeli military at a time. USS Liberty was sailing in an area where it had essentially gone off grid. The Israeli military mistook it for Egyptian ship and they thought it was shelling Al Arish which happened not to be true In initial attack American flag was knocked down then the attack went on for 90 minutes

1:42:27 And then as soon, you can hear this by the way on the tapes of Israeli pilots talking to each other. As soon as they realize that it's an American ship they call off the attack and speed a ship to try help USS Liberty There have been multiple unfortunate friendly fire incidents between allied forces including for example in the Gulf War where US forces were responsible for killing about 9 British troops during the Gulf war It is an unfortunate reality of war You're not answering my question, which is what is your broader agenda in asking the question? Because I suspect that your question is not limited to your specific ire over an incident that happened in 1967. Hit pause and we'll go back to it It's a big job I probably did 50 interviews on this or more made of film called Fabled Enemies And then I didn't really keep doing because most people were dead I interviewed the head judge advocate general that ran The Secret Inquiry That got sealed

1:43:20 I interviewed the guy that was head of the Navy at the time, who became a joint chiefs staff head. Moore, I interviewed like I said, gosh more than 50 people from right down to mid shipment and you're right on top and they attack went on for how many hours? Eight hours or something longer that they sent torpedo boats, they sent more jets, they did all this. The first thing they hit was communications in the first strafe And they were smart enough to unhook a bunch of the wires and hide them, understanding oh look. They just hit that so they could then restring it and send out SOSs and they were on the Israeli channels begging them to stop attacking. Yeah, the torpedo phase was two hours but though it went on and on and on and then comes all the rest of it So there was a whole bunch of phases, a whole bunch of rollouts and I'll get that number myself, it's fine, don't do it.

1:44:24 That's where we are here folks and Shapiro really stepped in here. There has been no ship in US history hit like this, it is the highest decorated not the Grey Ghosts, not the Lexington none of them and there was dozens battles but kamikazes you name it This ship got more holes shot at than any ship in US history bar none And would not sink because they had bulkheads that went to lock those down So, and by the way they have a telemetry. It was not in Israeli waters another lie by Shapiro Oh the Israelis sent about to save them white Ben's in a lot of trouble now He really stepped it at this time Let's finish up with a clip from Ben

1:45:21 I think we should question any foreign country's relationship with our government. That is totally fine, but I am just wondering why you... ... American interests Again that and i'm perfectly fine with questioning any country's relationship with the United States But again, I'm wondering what your motivation is in bringing up a six decade old attack as though it is the number one issue in assessing the relationship between Israel and the United States today Well, many problems persist to this day but it's interesting that you say six decade old incident when there are many people in this audience who were alive for that attack as if this is something that's irrelevant. No its just not particularly relevant to assessing the relationship between the United States and Israel today in the same way than 1967 there a wide variety of countries with which the United States had different relations

1:46:11 Okay, it's clear you're not going to actually answer the question so I'm happy to move on. Alright, so air attack initial aerial assault by Israeli jets fighters involved cannon fire rockets and napalm torpedo attack was followed by an attack with three Israeli motor torpedo boats those are the boats he said they came to help which launched torpedoes and continuing fire with machine guns It goes on The combination of air and sea attacks resulted in 34 dead American crew members 171 wounded it goes on from there But those are the boats Shapiro said came to help, the torpedo boats. So here's Shapiro saying I don't bring receipts, I talk about shadowy foggy groups. No, I named the UN treaties, WF, BlackRock where they're specifically taking over different things what they're doing. Democrat bills we need to block, bills we need support like banning transgender surgery and kids it's all about victory it's all about success. It's all about key races, it's all about knowing what's going on

1:47:20 But he says we're not giving you any hope. We're dividing things, no you're trying to come in because we're pro free speech. We interview people you don't like amongst other people I guess you do like one day a rabbi's on and then another day somebody else it's interesting that's what we do but the point is that You want to control that debate? It's not going to happen here's Ben Shapiro attacking me. We have a duty to propose solutions That's why we have to talk about our problems in order to find the solutions. That's what politics was supposed to be about after all, finding solutions for common problems. If we speak endlessly about the problems we face without ever positing a solution other than wrecking the system or centralizing power in a cult like figure, we are not finding solutions. We are merely- Start over did you just hear that? He's back to never trumping he thinks were stupid. We're here with policies and ideas and getting it done

1:48:24 We're not wrecking the system. The Great Reset, the left wants to turn off the coal power plants and shut down society, cloward and pivot. We want to save the American Republic but you're worried about a cult-like figure with too much power? Oh like Trump uh huh that's a Democrat Party talking point this guy is stupid here it is we have a duty to propose solutions that's why we have to talk about our problems in order to find the solutions That's what politics was supposed to be about after all finding solutions for common problems If we speak endlessly about the problems we face, without ever positing a solution other than wrecking the system or centralizing power in a cult-like figure... You'll never debate me. ...solutions We are merely making problems worse Just asking questions, positing vague conspiracies raving like Alex Jones about secret confederacies that control your life None of it makes your life better! NONE OF IT In fact it makes your life markedly worse

1:53:48 America is ours, we put Trump in there. We are not gonna have George W Bush who was bragging a month ago that the neocons are going to take back control of America you're not and the globalist leftists are not gonna have control and yeah Trump's got near record low poll numbers because of a bunch of missteps we've talked about he started to correct but the Democrats Are even lower In every major index 18 points on how the public sees them

1:54:26 Trump's at 39 in general polling, 36 for the economy. So yeah, Trump is dropping and he has got to course correct because people are pissed they want action and he has gotta explain no instant delivery. And I said what his speech needed to be that he gave us a few nights ago. Talk about lowering energy on average 40%. Talk about the good areas, talk about things are starting to happen but explain it's not overnight. There was a big mistake saying I'll fix it day one all in the Russia war day one all inflation day one sure got you elected but I was like thats gonna bite you in the butt come on don't even under promise over deliver promise what you think you can do and then deliver

1:55:13 So CNN forced to admit inflation is coming down under Trump. No other way to spin it, it's true They've slowed it in general It rises like this Now its kind of like that And a lot areas and energy stuff has gone way down You know they've cut actually But people still feel it! Here's a clip from CNN even having to admit the truth I mean, I was surprised it was a better number than anyone was expecting. Look inflation's been very high. It stayed high and has not been coming down but you know people were expecting it to be above 3%. It was well below three percent. I mean, I think the president will take this as good news The investors will think that interest rates will get cut more so You know who is that? It was a positive news There's no other way to spend absolutely

1:56:07 And it's absolutely true that if Jerome Powell would have cut interest rates like he did for Biden and all the rest of it, then we would actually be turning this around. And you're like well that'll cause inflation. We're getting that no matter how you slice it because all the major governments are inflating so you want to have an expansion increase pay and that mitigates the inflation. It's two choices stagflation, The Great Reset by design poverty austerity or expansion And that's where we are. Polling signals serious trouble for Democrats in upcoming midterm zero edge, at least a whole bunch of government numbers and corporate polls voters are delivering Democrats in Congress a brutal verdict heading into 2026 midterm cycle which is 18% approving of their performance and a staggering 73% disapproving the worst rating Plinipac has recorded for them since the beginning

1:57:15 in 2009 and all the other polls show the same thing. So Democrats are on average about 18 point approval, okay? So you go oh look Trump's at 39 yeah bitch people are pissed but they really don't like you so when we look at all these bad numbers for Trump Those can be reversed if he explains they're the ones like all major blue states are controlled getting the tax on tips. They collect the money, say they're going to still collect it. They're not even doing that! They're obstructionists I say this pretty much every broadcast is true birds of a feather fly together so people that love to lie cheat and steal they all get together and as time goes on with corruption if it's not dealt with

1:58:01 They just egg each other on and they get more and more corrupt, evil and radicalize. And then the old corrupt people die... ...and even worse people get in charge! Then you just get total psycho cuckoo land. Well it's the same thing for good people The more good people you have standing up, the more stand-up Courage is contagious and then you get better and better and better and better people That's when we get golden eras We're not going to get to the golden era in five minutes So I called all of it on the Epstein I understand basically every angle of it. I've talked to the people that have the best record and sources on what was happening, and Roger Stone told me when President Trump just got elected on election night or the next day he said we're gonna have a big Epstein problem because used be Trump's wingman in between divorces doing double dating stuff 50 year big buddies He said The CIA has come to him It's Masad MI6 royal family Said now you get that from Trump which means dead And didn't tell me that I'm telling ya

1:59:02 And he said, you're not gonna get any of it because the Democrats have already gotten rid of most real stuff. All the videos and stuff that the FBI grabbed out of his compounds in New York and the Caribbean and places like New Mexico. He said so this is gonna be a big deal. And then call servants we come on for long time but he was on right when Trump got back in he's like yeah They're gonna set them up with all this stuff, these emergency managers and make them look like fools for this whole Bondi thing with the folders and all that. And then it just gets worse and worse and worse but at the end of day Trump for national security issues I don't agree with it is covering up for the royal family is coming in Israel and the CIA was involved in background of all this stuff It was a huge money laundering operation buying off Harvard buying off MIT The underage girls were just like an hors d'oeuvre

2:00:03 didn't need to be compromised, Bill Gates and Ehud Barak the Israeli Prime Minister and all that stuff. They were the compromisers so I don't belittle the sex trafficking and all the rest of it That's a big part of it but its not the main engine And I've been covering since it first broke Im not the first guy talking about Epstein But Ive been talking about him since he got arrested down in Florida And I know how these networks work He is just one of many You go back to ancient Rome, you know when it was declining they had weird sex culture on the government. That's how the Chinese and the Russians everybody...you watch a James Bond movie written by the former deputy head of the OSS in the MI6 Ian Fleming constantly the hot chick comes in that's a spy trying to set him up get information or kill him I mean because that's especially under HUMET before they went to signals like oh Candace Owens there's all these

2:00:56 Egyptian, meaning Israeli planes following her. They follow your cell phone! They hack your computer they're not following you with planes The point is that this is a disaster for Trump and I predicted it and everybody predicted it That if he obliquely joined the cover-up the Democrats would selectively hang around his neck Evidence last week they give the estate A few months ago of Epstein over to them 90 plus thousand files they picked 19 files And it's Trump at public events with beauty queens and stuff, and they black their faces out. MSNBC says is that the girls? Do they black them out cuz they're victims? An we debunk it quickly but the point is it doesn't matter because Trump joined in it

2:01:43 Because he was convinced to do it, because it's just a big rat's nest. It's the new Russiagate they're gonna pin on you. It's already been hidden sir. A lot of powerful people are gonna be brought down as an embarrass America and the Queen of England and the King of England. And now they're all on board with Trump is kissing his ass. Because I said two ways Trump can say justice be done by the heavens fall destroy The Deep State with this information. They probably would kill him or he tried or he takes the file and uses it to blackmail them. That's a dangerous game. They'll stab you in the back, so that's my synopsis I'm gonna shut up and always talk over him call servants here we're going to go through all this And then we'll get later into him nailing it to the day Said like three months ago two months ago month ago by Christmas Mangino gone Then days before he says he's gonna announce his resignation

2:02:34 this Friday and he'll either going to leave the 28th or the third. I mean, we're talking hole in one nailing it totally insane. And then what is that? How does that time to cash Patel who's going to replace him? Where is this going show and a bunch of other angles. So I'm gonna shut up Kyle till we go to break at 16 minutes because I got to shut up. I want you to be able to roll here with how huge this is, but obviously we should tackle this DOJ issue first, and also the issue of they call it the files. There's grand juries there's the stuff that Epstein has turned over to Congress there's the grand juries, there's the criminal trials or civil trials. This is an endless cornucopia And I get when Trump says it's a Russian gig because he is a rat hole He should articulate that instead

2:03:17 Instead of just saying it's all a hoax, which is the number one thing in polling pissing people off after the economy. So call Serafin got your hit morning show that you do the call service show calm call Serafin on X rumble comm for slash call seraphin Thank you so much. Let's get right down into Epstein and these latest developments, DOJ won't meet Friday deadline to release all the Epstein files." Well Congress said they're gonna go to war with this and tee this up to make it a major issue! So they just walked right into the trap You don't think a Democrat lawyer doesn't know that? Oh we're protecting you sir from what?! And then we've got Bongino saying... We've got them saying he's best friends with Epstein with no evidence I'm gonna shut up call Sarafin

2:04:03 Well, first of all this is really predictable. They've been telling us they were not going to give us these files from the beginning because we just got this slow drip of nothing We got Bindergate right? You remember they announced that the files were on my desk That was Pam Bondi whether that was a setup trying to make her look bad early on or not doesn't really matter you could just follow the trail. The trail has been promise something, deliver nothing. Promise something, deliver nothing. Say that we're working on something show you none of what we're working on. It doesn't mean the FBI doesn't have files but to suggest that they were a truckload of files and they were all hidden over at some part of DOJ which was the early inclination if you remember

2:04:39 The initial story went something like this. I'm demanding all the files, bring them all to me. I have all the files they're now on my desk. I found out those aren't all the files. I just got made a fool of in front of everybody and I did it on national television so now we're gonna go... We found out who the culprit is! It's the Southern District of New York who you hate! And then you look at it and say well the Southern District of New York actually answers two DOJ, they answer to the Attorney General. What are you talking about? One of your subsidiaries is not doing their job? It's the New York field office is the problem what they also said from the FBI who's hiding these things at the end of the day if you have director level access To the FBI file and record keeping system and if you're the attorney general United States And you cannot access things that you have within your agency Then you're not in charge I think there has been this subtle sort expression thats been a case all time

2:05:29 I make the argument regularly when I come and talk to you, Alex. I think that DOJ has not been rooted out of corruption in the people that run things whether it be mid-level managers to high level managers and below the appointees they're still there doing what they think is right. And if you don't have years of experience of knowing how to find these things if your Kash Patel Dan Bongino saying, they briefed me on these files If your Pam Bondi going on the word that your FBI director gave you and you can't take that to the bank How are you in charge? We're talking about an intelligence agency and how do they view power? It's based on information. That's always what the Epstein files were about, whatever is in there which we can speculate all day long because we don't have access to them

2:06:10 But there's a reason why Tom Massey wanted to put this through. There's a reason why Donald Trump turned and said, Massey just because you're being consistent on this particular point which he has been I think Marjorie Taylor Greene consistent saying that this needs to come out the sort of destroy it and if it takes everything down around it so be at The truth is worth it. I think some of us believe that we've seen that that's not what is being whispered into the ear of Donald Trump, at least based on the way that he's reacted these people So who's surprised that we've got Todd Blanch now coming out from DOJ saying, we're not gonna meet this deadline? Well the deadline is federal law. So what you're telling me is that you are not going to comply with federal law and you are the lead prosecutor or you are the Justice Department that's job you're tasked with enforcing federal law. So we have a real crisis here. There's no other way to say it there's nothing good about what that means. We've got people that have decided that they don't care and they called Congress as bluff which is what I was kind of suggesting to you the other day

2:07:04 What are they gonna do, cut off funding? I mean you tell me Alex. Are they going to cut off funding to DOJ? Are they gonna cut off funding to the FBI or any entity underneath? Cuz I haven't seen him have the balls to do this yet. This is yet another moment where, you know it's gonna be a hearing and some letters and maybe we're gonna have some people come out and do theater and there'll be some outrage- Don't ask me to interject or I'm gonna start talking over here when everyone else but obviously- Talk right there. This is what happens. The Democrats are going to have hearings they're not gonna put pressure to release all this stuff cuz they know it's way worse for them They've already figured all this out And Trump's not sophisticated enough. He just knows it's a new Russiagate thing, and so they're playing Trump this is gonna become a huge fiasco It'd be ten times worse than it is. It's a total disaster What do you recommend Trump should do?

2:07:52 You've got to actually do the thing that federal law says you're going to do. If you're going have someone call the bluff, then there's two ways you can do it if you think that there are elements within your own executive branch that are not complying with what your party pushed forward right? It was an almost unanimous vote in the house and the Senate moved it before they even saw it so this is stuff that Tom Massey was talking about They passed it through They thought there was gonna be some sort of comment on it Democrats called a bluff fine put it all out So what happens next The truth And we just deal with it It's not like Trump can be reelected So I just struggle with people that make empty threats and never follow through on them. You and I were talking the other day about being parents, I've got four kids you got four kids you remember it? I'm going through right now if i make a threat to one of my children, you do this and the consequences will be fill in the blank

2:08:38 And they don't do it if they don't follow through. They don't listen to their mother, they don't listen to me. I've got a follow-through even if I don't want to. It doesn't feel great to go out there and punish your children but you have to do it for their own sake. We have to have accountability we have to have someone say this is federal law If you do not abide by it, we have exactly one power in Congress. We can enforce law. We don't have executive authority. We could pull your funding and by the way that's what what's going to happen next? They're never gonna do it! That's the thing DOJ FBI The other entities in the government have looked over and said I'm gonna call your bluff. I don't think you have any balls to go and follow through on what you said You would do then the evidence is we look at the past performance And we use that to predict the future behavior and the behavior is you're gonna fold first Maybe you'll have like a sternly worded letter Here's the sad part there's nothing in there but a few more pictures of Trump at public events, there's nothing there it's all for Bill Clinton and

2:09:33 Larry Summers and Lex Wexner, all of it. But Trump has decided to do this so now they're gonna have their kick in 82 not ever really even release the garbage and then turn around an act like He's covering it up when Trump's already said over and over again, fine release it. We can't and then okay do release don't release him. I mean this is a total quagmire. It makes him look bad and weak so you brought up polling and essentially Democrats are underwater with their own base with their own people who would vote Democrat as default registered Democrats have lower approval rating of Democrats than they previously had that interesting

2:10:10 We're over here on the political right. I'm not a Republican, but I vote generally that way because what other options do we have if we have people that are going to lean closer to conservative than not? And when I see it, okay well the midterms are gonna be a loss unless you claim them. And I don't think that they're Republicans have to win them back. I think they are actively losing them by not keeping to their word because people look, they won't vote pro Democrat if they're on the fence if either in the middle or if there an independent. They'll vote anti Republican because you promised me something and you're not going to do it You said something and you didn't follow through. I expect you to be a person of your word, even if that means it's not great- The only way to do that is just say if you think Epstein's important and you're an idiot, you don't support me? I don't want your vote. And he's dead! He's dead and all this stuff is dead along with him unless you make it something. They're breathing life into his story that should have been handled in the first couple weeks of administration. Just ripped the bandaid off deal with the problem. You had your attorney general going out making promises

2:11:08 and you didn't ever deliver on those promises. That's the thing that I think makes the people on the right most frustrated, if you promise me something even if it's something I end up not wanting give it to me. You said you were gonna give it to me give it to me and then idea with it. It's like oh, you're right? I really don't want driving a stick ship or whatever it is- Well, that's the other problem. You've got an entrenched part of both the entire political establishment is sort of entrenched with this but even the GOP has this issue where they're still trying to do 1990s early 2000s PR and messaging where if we give you people that you like Then you will react the way that we want you to. Put on the MAGA hat, hold up this stupid binder and get nothing but it's from people that you like." And so this has become synonymous with what they call con ink and I know Ben Shapiro gets lumped in there my buddy just called it Brian Madden just called it slop ink

2:12:02 It's this slop garbage where it's really a sloppy information op and they expect people not to have alternative sources, not having any sort of anything outside of the main sort of narrative coming at them. So they can't choose anything else but that's not what we're living in right now. We actually do have alternatives We've actually even had the throttle pulled off of places like YouTube. I've got a YouTube channel that's slowly growing right now for the first time in three years, so that's interesting. It tells me that the throttle has come off some of that is Donald Trump doing? I think he put people into his cabinet. He put people into even FBI and Andrew Bailey who was working on Missouri v Biden case and they kind of came at the Biden administration and said hey you can't go and lean on social media. You can't go lean on alternative media-

2:12:44 They've cut a bunch of the NGO funding. They removed a bunch of the agents that were running this undership, so at least it's not offense but he has removed their attacks. It is more of a shielding move just like pulling a $41 billion US deal with UK because they're trying to sue the U.S for EU and censor us. That is good! And that what frustrates Trump is doing a lot of good. So we bet you can play from my perspective I'm trying them course correct because we need this succeed but your absolutely right Yeah, you don't want to add and subtract at the same time. If you're going to do less good then don't do the bad and if you're gonna do some bad things you better do all awful lot of goods so that you can out message it and this is the issue people wanted more of what Donald Trump promised not less

2:13:26 People didn't want him to half ass this. They said, you started off as a hurricane coming out. You literally sat on a stage while a parade was going on and what was he doing? He's signing executive orders in the first few hours no time to waste time is of the essence this is the end This is like the final push or we don't make it In this sort of messaging And people looked at it and they went good A sense of imminence Is what we all feel If you go out and talk to people in the street regularly, and I do so. And they're not necessarily political people but they feel a sense of unease. They don't feel at ease and comfortable in thinking like well everything's under control it's gonna be fine. They think my life and my finances are at a tipping point our country is that a tipping point we're always kind of walking down this razor's edge. Some of that is by design. It's a long walk. It's 100 plus years of us getting to the point where every single vote in every single election

2:14:15 split 50-50 and we could see radical change in policy. We're not supposed to do that as a country, by the way. We're supposed to have a lot more consistency but if you promise a U turn and you deliver me foot off the gas only like you only slow down the agenda that we had a problem with, that's not going to be good enough. And when those of us that are parents that are looking at young kids going into it people who have little bit older kids that are looking about them going into the job market You know, a tiny drop in inflation is not going to be the answer. We had a moment to recorrect in 2008-2009 I was looking at inflation numbers the first time in the last 25 years The only time that we had negative inflation which means deflated currency Which means your dollar was worth more happened just after the financial collapse in 2008 And if you're not gonna do it that way and have a huge meltdown which was a big deal for a lot of people

2:14:59 Then you better start like hitting the brakes really hard in other ways and showing people that you are accomplishing the mission that you said. And one of these things, this is why Epstein is always emblematic because one it's salacious involves sex. It involves young women. It involves two systems of power. It involves the possibility and the tiered system of justice where people can have access and they don't have to actually live in a world that you and I live in. So everybody kind of looks at that as a harbinger of what's to come? Are we going to get more of And that guy gets away, even his reputation in death gets to still be kind of shady but nobody wants to touch it. Or do we live in a world where we go sunlight disinfects all? We're gonna take our medicine and we're gonna swallow it down and we're gonna deal with whatever the consequences are. If that means that a bunch of people who are senators or world leaders around the globe they don't get to look themselves in the mirror anymore and have any self-respect because everyone else knows what kind of demon they are so be it I think Americans are fine with that. I think regular people who vote for Donald Trump-

2:15:54 He's destroyed himself just because he wanted to protect the political establishment when we know it's not even him doing the actual screwing of the 14 year olds. So something you said is a key here- Well, all he's doing is setting up an easy narrative for someone to say otherwise because if the answer is prove it or think about this, this is like classic bully talk. It's like I'm gonna beat your face in and then somebody goes well prove it coming at me. I saw a guy the other day who looked like he was smaller dude angry man confronting him said you said something nasty my wife she said what do you want to do about it? And the guys are like, I wanna beach yes, If you call someone out, you call that bluff. And the answer is more talk, more obfuscation a lot of posturing then we know what the consequence is it's nothing and if you say you need to release these files We passed the law Congress has spoken and Congress does nothing in DOJ says we can flouted. We've got a real serious and you called it the other day constitutional crisis not on the way the Democrats are talking about that's a legitimate crisis when your legislative branch cannot make direction that the executive goes out and does.

2:16:51 That's tragic. And we're seeing it happen right now on something that should be a no brainer, it's an easy win for the Trump administration to just say we're taking our medicine whatever was yeah call it a hoax call whatever people have a memory and they have old video clips and they're gonna go out and play it from whether it was him running in 20 What, 24 where they're talking about it and all the surrogates are out going talking about it? Or you go back as far as like 2015-2016 when he first hit the trail. And he promised some really aggressive reform in this country people wanted to see something change. They wanted to feel what America was a period of time ago And I'll tell you one last little thought on this. I had somebody in my comment section that said something like, isn't it funny that Serafin thinks that Clinton era politics was peak America? Well it's not me that saying that. I'm looking out and seeing what Donald Trump policies more or less are and they're basically 90s Democrat policies. They're not even to the right of where I live. He's not doing that he's doing things where America saw post Cold War max freedom people had a lot of hope.

2:17:51 I lived through it, you lived through it. People who lived through it remember even if he didn't like Bill Clinton people felt proud of being an American they thought we won and we were the good guys We've lost that That's what I thought make America great again meant Well that shows how radical Democrats have gotten If we had Chuck Schumer in the 90s signing bills to blow up drug boats And record level deportations saying They're sucking off social security It's a 180 It's not that... They've got even more insane than Trump is just moderate basically He is he's a moderate for anyone to claim that he's a radical conservative is nuts. I mean, there are conservative people. He's not one of them and I accept that America is probably not as far to the right as someone like me lives. That's fine so let's look at what that is to say that a basically 90s democratic relatively moderate position for today

2:18:37 totalitarian, it shows you how much compromise won't work. You can't make deals with the devil as you were alluding to earlier. You make deals with the devil and you find out that all you do is lose ground every single time because you're playing in the Devil's playground. We can't do that so we're now at this moment where we're seeing them say it I keep updating the American what is it? The Associated Press to see if they're going to bring this stuff out but the other day we're going to see the clock run out on the Epstein files which means they're going Nothing happens. That's the worst case scenario nothing happens and nobody cares and no funding and no consequences. A huge fiasco and embarrass Trump with hearings but then watch they won't push because we know everything coming out is 99% bad on Democrats which again- It's all image it's all yeah, it's all PR this is a PR battle And they're losing because they're blinking in a game of chicken that you can't lose You just put it out there and then deal with the consequences Absolutely

2:19:29 Wow, all right. Well let's talk about how you see this unfolding advice to Trump to extricate himself from this and then I want to look at some of the other angles of what's happening at the shakeup of DOJ, because that is important folks. Most important federal department to save the country everybody with a brain agrees is the DOJ I mean we can't fix that So I tried Methylene Blue and instantly I bought a nine month supply after that I bought the Optimal Human Super Greens I bought a four-month supply of that I bought Power Plant Plus, Methyl Drive and nitric boost. And when I started all of this, I was 260 pounds and I'm now down to 200 pounds exactly. And my testosterone when I started was 350. I was a low key overweight useless straight Christian male. My testosterone two weeks ago tested at 1004.

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2:21:23 So thank you, Doug for staying on hold. I know it's been a while so we appreciate you for that. Don't want to remind y'all again as you heard To head on over to the Alex Jones store calm because everyone's bragging about the items We have there right now and they're 40% off You gotta head over right now this very second the Alex Jones store comm were selling out of a lot of your incredible items They're still fully in stock But they're gonna sell out soon if you don't get it now I can play a clip from a month ago two months ago three months ago He said it dozens of times They bring up Epstein to him And Trump goes, them blaming me is a hoax. Sometimes he goes that far it's a hoax but he said I told him just release everything and he goes some of it out on control to the courts and the Democrats go and fight not have the grand jury stuff released so for everybody out there like Kyle said we've done yesterday or day before there's not some holy list some magic place and as much litigation stuff as there is It never ends! It's just...it's the gift that keeps on giving

2:22:19 So, but now in the culture it's bigger than JFK assassination. People want the answers while most of the answers have already been removed there's got to be a way for Trump to come out and communicate that fully to people and explain it so you see what they keep releasing? New York Post photos at me at beauty pageants with women's faces blacked out saying I like their kids or something. He should go on the offense on this and then look at Todd Blanche. Trump has ordered them repeatedly Go ahead release it And then, sorry we can't. They know full well Todd Blanche knows full well that rest on Trump. So as you were the one that said like 10 months ago he said no there's gonna be people in the DOJ setting Trump up and setting Mangino up and setting Patel up they don't pay very close attention again experts at what they're doing. You nailed it. The deputy director gets all the real jobs. He's up all night giving him crises. Patel stepped in purely just like Bondi does is just

2:23:16 showboating around and partying or whatever. And so these guys are just movie starring it, not realizing what a serious situation they're in. And from my information Trump's sick of them all. So I think what you said a few days ago is right. I think we see major shakeups in the new year. So how can Trump extricate himself from this tar baby swamp set up? And then where do you see this going into the future and then your accurate prediction at the day of Bongino, Well, it signifies that he got wrapped up right away. I mean, I think I sent your guys something from April of 2025 so April 23rd was the first tweet that I could find when I went back and looked at my timeline and I think I actually said it to you about two weeks before that. So two three weeks in

2:24:00 It was really obvious to me that he wasn't happy with what he was doing, that he didn't like what he was doing. And and he made a really terrible misstep. He reached out to my buddy Steve friend and he said hey why don't you come in and work for me so I can stay away from these the snakes? We know they're out there and i don't speak FBI and you do would you come sit in a meeting and tap me on the thigh and let me know when someone's lying to me That's actually a really smart thing to do. Go get someone who has been- If you're Lewis and Clark, you hired two Native American guides or your dead. It is really straight yeah exactly that. You just find a local who knows what is going on. Steve Friend is a local and he also got a reason to be proven himself before you had the chance to ask It's one of the things that I use for the sourcing that I have. A lot of people, I've known them for a long time before I was ever out in public so if they reach out to me, I'm not going to out them we're naturally communicating anyway and I know that they don't have anything to sell me there like I get people that say oh I was an FBI agent can i talk to you it's like absolutely not! I don't know you You know? I gotta go vet you If I'm gonna find out who you are Steve would be that guy he was previously out there That is why young people think they know it all You may have a lot of native intelligence which we respect

2:24:58 But as you get older, you know more people. You've been through more. You've seen the scams and then also beyond what you just said people you know it's people you've known that are consistently right and have credibility which like that's what it's all about. It's about proving proving proving proving Alex, I had a reporter reach out to me yesterday the day before and sent me a message that was really troubling. It was like hey we're about to essentially saying i'm writing a hit piece on you and here's the things that I want you to respond to and they were all salacious nonsense And so I'm reading it and I was like my first instinct My young man instinct is to go out social media get ahead of the problem Go out like this is the thing! And then I remembered

2:25:35 This is the thing that Trump administration forgets. When you're explaining, you're losing if you're out there going even if you're getting ahead of a story I see Bongino do it all the time. It's a juvenile move. He was like The New York Times has bad info- We're about to write a story about a woman being raped in your office. I know it's not true, don't even respond." If i'm going to respond to it though, I'm not gonna respond to it the way that they expect me too which is to get ahead of the story or go out there and defend myself. I do the thing that is Socratic It's natural for me as an investigator, I call them and find out what they know so I go well who's asking you right this story? What are you understanding it to mean You listed some facts, where'd you get them? What's your sourcing?" I like to respond to it but I don't understand. It's a waste of time. It's always like noon is we're going with this at 6pm and you've got six hours. This person says that versus that and the old days I call up and say how much did you pay him blah blah blah... And then they would hit ya. But me, I just ignore it. Yeah, you can dismantle them that way and you can also ignore them but at the end of the day The thing that you want is you wanna be a little bit smarter

2:26:37 And stop doing the same mistakes that you've been doing. So you ask what's the technology, what's the technique they got to be using? Some of it is Socratic. You can dismantle a lot of these things with the questions of the people that are making the allegation. That should be really easy. The second thing is radical transparency. I just asked you questions now Yeah, I just ask you questions. So you tell me, I'm going to write this thing about you and this is what I believe is going on." And I say great! How much do you trust the source that gave it to you? Oh, I believe this much. Great. What other examples of times have they been accurate? I just asked questions until you know that you don't know enough to actually be asking me so I never tell you anything. I let you come to the conclusion that what you're doing is bad idea. You are getting info while your turning around them

2:27:18 That's it. Yeah, I'm what are they called? It's called eliciting in intelligence so i'm asking questions and i'm doing it a friendly way and i'm not being combative. I'll just continue to dismantle you they do this law school as well but at the end of the day that tactic is if you want to go and take something apart If you want to end a current scandal which is ongoing then you have to face the music there were some things in Kentucky Fried Chicken that had this problem I did a whole special on this where they went out They ran out of chicken in the UK at a Kentucky fried chicken which was probably the cardinal sin of a chicken restaurant And so they just went out and they said we effed up. And they took the letters of Kentucky Fried Chicken, and they moved them to spell F.

2:27:53 CK on their bucket. And they just said we blew it, sorry that you didn't have chicken when you came in and people just go like okay got it like you acknowledge he just didn't order properly. You move on from the scandal by owning the scandal- Or instead of just telling me I told the White House this The Democrats were voting pedophilia everywhere It's Democrats all in files lean into it and go to total war but again This is how I would do it Yep Listen you've got a few more days where Dan Bongino sitting in that office So bring him out Send them at a press conference, bring the agents that are assigned to this case. The case managers anybody who's been involved in it your analysts and people who have done the technical evidence analysis forensic accountants whatever put them all on a panel make sure that you've got everything that you can declassified

2:28:36 And then answer questions from the press in an open way for as long as it takes. If it takes six, seven to eight hours run them out to the point where they're so bored with the story that they're leaving The auditorium or their leaving the press room and there like I just don't think like these guys are telling us everything Whenever people would ask me questions about They thought something shady was happening in my background Or they thought too many shady was happening because we were gonna go interview them on with the FBI at a time and I want To go It's like fine What do you want to know about what we're doing? I'll tell you what the investigation is Sometimes I would say, listen, I don't want you to answer any questions. I just want you to listen and I'm gonna present my case. Can I tell you what I think is going on? You feel free to interject but you don't have to okay and then you tell them- But I've got people exposed corruption for. I just instinctively knew that was when it was paranoid like listen, I've just got idea what these people are doing. I heard you were a good guy. I'm not gonna get in the middle of this. Let me tell you my story and if you think that's accurate or you can fix it or about part right then they wanna tell you

2:29:30 It's a different kind of sales tactic. There are different sales tactics for me, that's it. It's like here is what the product is? Here's what I know about it. Here's why I think it's great for what you described your problem to be does that sound interesting to you do have any questions for me and if you just lay it out there and you're willing to do that, it's not combative and they could have done this in the beginning which is what they should've done And I think I made the argument at the time. I'll make the argument again You got a few more days on the clock sit out there and get ahead of this. Your supposed to do it anyway reveal all of They've already done the redactions. I told you a long time ago, I wanna say we did this in April where we sat down and I told you they were doing all the aggressive redactions that are putting out maxing out overtime getting all the victims names that needed to be redacted and all that stuff so that's been done for months- So this claim by Blanchett is horse crap? I don't know why they're running at the clock other than it just makes Trump look stupid. No no they say, I got the article here, they say their redacting names of victims still

2:30:20 That's what they claim. But listen, they said they've gone through this with AI for nine months and they can't get it done then that they probably shouldn't exist to all of that is to say we're seeing this weird deflection and we're seeing more discussion of DOJ and FBI than I've ever seen in my entire life so it's weird for me to be someone talking about what I always refer to as my ex-girlfriend It's a relationship that I would be happy to move on from I'd be happy to talk about other things that are interesting to me But this is front and center. And I know it's front and center because when I go to other mainstream outlets, if I go to listen see what Glenn Beck is talking about then Glenn Beck is talking about the same things that I think are problematic which is mid-level managers and all the sort of people that run these agencies they're all still there you can't do reform with the same people we brought a little clip of like Harmee Dillon talking about it and watch how she doesn't answer the question That's really the key nobody has a real answer because nobody wants to say look man We don't actually run these agencies They run themselves

2:31:10 We're figureheads, we can handle small departments and minimal change. But at the end of the day you either got to scrap it and start from scratch or you just accept the fact that you have disloyal people to the agenda you're putting out. And they've accepted it but they won't say it to people. I think if he just said that then maybe okay with it. If you guys wanna hear the car me Dylan she'll say in her own words is watch the pivot when she doesn't answer Glenn's question. All right, we go this army dealing club here does do you think that the people at the FBI and the DOJ in all levels realize that, cuz I know you do. Do they realize how to the end the American people are? They're starting to lose faith if we don't start to see people

2:31:56 at least charged and have a fair trial. I'm not even saying that they go to jail, hopefully they would if they broke the law but showing these people because we keep getting investigation after investigation after investigation and then it just sits there There's a story out today about the Clinton Foundation and all the investigations, what they found. I don't have any faith that nobody is going to jail for that. Nobody is going go to jail for that. And we're at this place where it's up to the DOJ and the FBI to do their job and then start bringing some justice because if we lose in 28,

2:32:39 And you haven't cleaned up and set clear rules of the law does matter. All these people got away with it last time, it's going to be a thousand times worse in 2028 No, I hear you and i'm worried about it. I'm a citizen of this country and as you know have donated uh countless millions of dollars of my billable time to um being engaged in politics and so Here's let me just set some expectations So we come into the DOJ I had about 400 attorneys plus working in my department I have one third of that now because

2:33:18 Because when I set the rules of what we're going to do here in this department two-thirds of the people peaced out and quit and Some of the ones who are left behind or leaking to the press what we are doing. And so that's the fight in my department Okay, and then you look at where does most of this work occur? When you look at the hundreds of thousands over a hundred thousand people will work at the Department of Justice A lot of them worked for the FBI Well, it's only the very top top, top layer of that. That is politically appointed and committed to the president's agenda. I would say the vast majority of that agency is a legacy doing what they're doing much which was not good for America. I'm going to say now Elon Musk said that six months ago he said listen we elected Trump the captain but half the ship's mutinous it's more than that show

2:34:05 Again, the leftists they just leave. The super hardcore saboteurs they stay the real spies stay and then you've got a few people in management that are halfway good I mean really it's how do you fix something? That is this ingrained and systemic You just told you what the problem was. You can't get rid of them all, the people that are gonna leave are gonna leave, the people who're gonna stay are going to keep doing the thing they were doing before so Harmey Dillon's pretty bright and she's gone into there and maybe they've turned and they've gotten some cases that they want to run and she's doing the second amendment thing now and She's interested in pivoting civil rights to be sort of necessary then they're not look at it as a way to go after white supremacists which is kind of what they previously did. They would name anybody a white supremacist

2:34:50 I think you guys were listed as a racially motivated violent extremist group at one point. So they'll go after anybody if they can use that weapon that way, but she just told you the entrenched management, the entrenched everything is there. We just got word that Dan Bongino's leaving what does it mean? That's the bigger question. I think it means he always was going to fail because he didn't pick the right people early and now it was obvious to me within a couple of weeks but maybe that's not obvious- Confirmation, you said he'll be gone by the year. You know you did that by the end of year? It's but it was so easy to see the analysis was really there I'll show you why by the way I brought you a tell So bad at first you thought he'd have to go but now you're saying He's so bad they might like him staying there. I don't know if they're gonna I can't imagine then keeping them I hope Donald Trump does exactly he he's just so much negative attention because he's so embarrassing

2:35:42 You'd think, how many times can you tell the president that you got somebody in custody for a major... We haven't even talked about Brown but for a major investigation and then be wrong. And make him be wrong. If he go make your boss a bad guy- Let's talk about Brown. Finish up with Bongino and then the new shadows. Yeah let me finish it. Couple of quick clips, we have one of Liz Harrington. She's a former Trump spokesperson she is on the team Trump. She is one of the people that follows me I feel like she has been listening to what I've been saying whether she getting it from me or from people that are saying same thing as me- No call everybody is geting in from you which not a competition its dangerous for you but yes you got this on guys so listen to what she has to say about the answer. She has different take and what means about Bongino again you got few days with him set down make him do the Epstein press conference because thats when he came out there He spent enough time talking about it

2:36:26 Liz Harrington comes out and says exactly what needs to be done. If you can't get people on your team, then you can't even use that team anymore. You might have to start a new team. You might have restart the franchise and she says essentially that on Fox Newsmax is Max go ahead guys play. Yes. And also were that it might be Andrew Bailey who was brought in the former agee to take his place Well, yeah. We'll see what happens he's already co-deputy director which I think was kind of a sign that Dan Bongino was not going to stay in his role for that long. I really think that this is more proof that the FBI needs not really major reform but to be dismantled and to be shut down it is inherently corrupt and when you bring in people with good intentions

2:37:15 that the It's not gonna be reformed if that remains to be the case. You know, this is a really interesting take We already know this Kyle you've explained it I'm just getting at If it's getting out there two people that are not me saying it and are listening in Harmee Dylan said the same thing She just didn't make the same argument but she's saying the same thing

2:38:13 you know, Harmeet Dillon just said that there are mid-level managers that are working from the inside of the Oreo out. My buddy called it like a poop cookie and the cream is the problem. You can have the people at the bottom that are working their way and they're getting the work done on the ground if they're given good direction. People at the top may have the same thing but if the majority of the transmission space from the senior executive, here's our vision to the actual people that go do the work. If it's not happening and there's people that are screwed with it along the way this story that I was talking about that I got this phone call about, I think it's actually relevant. It came from an episode that happened between me and one of my fellow agents in the desert in the middle New Mexico we were out shooting on a range and we did something that People do every day. And by the time they got up to the management in Washington DC who worked for Chris Ray

2:38:56 It was a new story, it had nothing to do with reality other than the fact that I did regular firearms training. So they wanna comment on that. It's like well the game of telephone is a problem in the federal bureaucracy and if the middle of it is corrupted and intentionally destroying the signal, that's what you're hearing Liz say. That's what you're actually hearing Harmeet say without saying it she's not making that argument because she's inside DOJ- No its true but it's very easy for them to do. And so we know that then then what could Trump do? Is there any way to extricate ourselves out of this Not without really breaking, I mean, I heard Ben Shapiro on the last hour and you were playing him. And he says breaking the system is not an answer it might have to be the only answer there's a point in time where you're like it may be a dog that I used to like but now it has rabies You got to put it down if the dog is the problem? I think even the Bible says If your right hand thats the problem then lop it off. If your eye is the problem then pluck it out. How do we over color the system

2:39:47 It needs to be like the people that work there at the ground level that are investigators. They can be easily moved, there's an entire job code of 1811 every federal agent is in 1811 you can move anywhere else we got a tug We got two dozen agencies that have 1811 commerce department has them quickly all you send The Russians sent them to Siberia, we sent them to the North Pole. That's right! Well there are certainly people that are useful but that was the argument I made to Kash Patel right away if your management core is the problem then promote them to Guam move them to Guam and make them in charge of federal investigations in their house and stop coming out of your house until they quit Don't fire them, don't do that because then you'll be in lawsuits forever. Just send him over there what you'd pay in a lawsuit is what you'll pay them and salary so just move them out of the way this is what Hoover used to do by the way he moved people to Montana and places that they didn't want to go That sounds like a dream to me right now but they didn't want that. Move people to Alaska? That also sounds nice So don't move into Alaska But moving to Guam or moving to Puerto Rico There's a lot of crime in Puerto Rico Go deal with that get the hell away from where the power is This was the argument I made to Patel in January

2:40:50 You need to get rid of the problem and send all the problem people. You don't fire them, you make them go somewhere else and do a job that they leave on their own then they have no recourse against you. They can't file lawsuits, they can't go out complaining about it- Let me raise this. All right so that's that As they go full whole hog now starting next week or the new year for sure 24 seven Epstein Trump DOJ covering it up even though he said release it there not what does Trump do because he is going to get pissed out You need to do a big shake. Yeah, I mean look the policy at the Trump administration was no scalps like nobody loses their job we don't hurt anybody's feelings it's a nice sentiment it's from a nice idea It's like if you came out there and decided to work for me I don't want to hurt your feelings I don't want to screw up your future job prospects

2:41:32 Well, it turns out we got something a little bit bigger as you like to talk about and I feel pretty strongly about it. Sometimes you're gonna have to break some eggs. You're going to probably have to hurt some feelings if people are not getting the job done and that's not a mean thing to say. That just says- debate on a hundred fronts. We have to reform the country or it's over and you listen, you don't leave your favorite quarterback in the game for example just because he's historically been good and he took you to the end if he's injured and he's not getting the job done, you pull them and then you put someone in for the second half we're basically moving into what like the second quarter but if we don't have it by halftime which is the midterms then you don't get another half you're going to get mercy ruled out of this game. So that's what you have to look at imminence

2:42:14 We gotta have to, well you have to at least be in the game at halftime and he's not going to be in the game if he's dealing with nothing but a indictments from the other side. And he's dealing with impeachments in the house. If you lose it, then that puts them in the command position It doesn't mean America's over, by the way. That's not the black pill we're selling it just means that this particular term is now a waste the next two years will be just a waste of time. Yeah but they said though maybe it ends up really dangerous maybe not I don't know what I can see the future and you may see better than I do well What I can say is maybe it goes back to the states in America doesn't actually survive as a country that's a real possibility that I keep looking at. I just don't think it immediately goes to like the zombie apocalypse. I think more likely it's like the States just go okay Well, the federal government is so defunct

2:42:56 that we now have to handle business for our own citizens in our state, that may be okay. I mean there will be a turning of whatever that looks like but if you want to see the status quo of America and everybody looks at themselves as an American and not a Texan first or a Montanan or a California New Yorker then you better try to maintain this union in a meaningful way. And right now it means that you get your job done. That means you may have to get out some cabinet positions and subcabinet people they may have to be fired and they may have to be fired really publicly. And if they told you that they weren't going to get it done, I got a clip from Fox for you about Bongino. How I knew it was going to happen there. Let's do five more minutes. I gotta go break five more minutes and put some bookends on this and we're gonna have the great DJ Dyer come in and take over. Call. I really appreciate spending time with us. The call service show.com following one X. It's not hard to find him.

2:43:41 Rumble.com forward slash call Sarah been really kicking ass and you judges read my fruits incredible accuracy I want to hit any other little not a little bit in the time We have a little bit of time Any other big things that he wants to tell us about these things are coming down the road straight ahead separately? I didn't plug last hour because I've been so focused on the news if I don't blog we won't be here because I'm not funded by The Qataris or the Israelis are the Russians or the Jews for the Easter bunnies, I am funded by you So I'm going to sell you products that really work. So you want them now we got two new, it's a tutor for flavors fruit punch and in freedom mango. I didn't name this. It was like a firecracker. It's beautiful cover ultimate power about unlimited power and probably, but it really is a pre-workout post workout

2:50:05 Uh, because you know whatever the new FBI is. You know and unless they're good guys are going to be even more scared of you cause you have all the whistleblowers you're willing to do it by the way you crush him it'll just make a thousand more advise them that thing about Strzank in fact he said oh you didn't know about this I didn't show Bongino is pledging he's gonna uh him and his henchmen are gonna get you right Yeah, I sent it over to Daria. This is... Sometimes you wake this stuff up. I can't be worried about it but it doesn't make me feel great when people who have a much bigger microphone than I do that obviously have a much bigger social media platform and they're going to go out there and do that. And then that's what my business is these days. My business isn't media so that's not my favorite when somebody says yeah we're gonna address you real soon. It also turns out that I have a decent audience in some of

2:50:49 Some of my monetized platform is coming from rumble to find out that guy who owns almost 6% of that has got his henchmen out there saying that we're going to address Kyle Serafin because they put out a meme. By the way, Kyle said it to you but first We have some actual footage of Bongino leaving the FBI mounting up with his buddies come after you here It is go ahead roll it while he speaks good. So as I hear they're coming Kyle That's right It's silly yeah, it's uh I don't know when you're out there making threats on your punch and downward. And this is something you advise towards me and I actually agree with it. It's like a generally speaking, they're mad at you.

2:51:26 Well, it's more than that. I mean, I've been a relentless sort of calling out of what Dan's failures are and they were inevitable and I think I've been charitable about it. I don't think it's a character deflect. I think it's a knowledge defect. So if you do not have the knowledge- How did he say they're gonna come after me now? What is the implication? Well, I dunno. I mean Rumble claims they are free speech platform. I wouldn't be surprised if I lost following there. I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't have a channel there got demonetized that would be real easy. And here's the funny thing. The first time he and I mixed it up which happened about a year in change ago Dan didn't say he did this, but I went from catching. You know, I basically lost 50% of my live viewers immediately like the next day we suddenly just didn't have anybody over there and whether that was because of a rumble reboot or an algorithm shift in that I didn't think about it. God, I hope you're about $150 million worth of their stock maybe 165 depending on the day it's a lot. I mean, he owns almost 6% of the company so

2:52:20 I think if an owner of 6% of a publicly traded company calls up the founder of it and says, Hey by the way this guy's all PNG. And we're not going to go out there and allow anything. I've never once had a video featured. We have a pretty decent podcast in the morning because very high production is I love them. But I know some of those bigger shareholders don't bud light your brand. If you let Bongino come in there and start attacking people and making a prerequisite to suck his wiener to be on rumble, you are going to turn into Bud Light I think they're doing it already for whatever it's worth. I got friends who own smaller stakes of that have told me similar things, they have questions and the answers are basically like sorry if you're not going to be on what we say is the approved sort of chit

2:52:59 then you don't get to go out there and be successful the way other people are. We've done it in spite of them, and I have an audience and people listening. Well, I think my show that I do punches way above its weight for people who have decision making capabilities. And obviously we pissed off the FBI. I mean shit excuse my language but we did a podcast and the next day they went they pulled my buddy who was on the podcast his attorneys fired him. The FBI called him back to active duty and then fired him three days later for things he said on my show. They quoted my show as the reason why they were firing him so I'm gonna point out that these guys are ridiculous when they're acting ridiculous and some of it is very personal to me. And this is something-

2:53:45 If you say you're going to go solve a problem and you can't do it, either be a man and say I wasn't able to get it done. Don't lie to us don't piss on our leg until it's raining and say I solved all the problems when we blow up this pipe bomber case which is gonna come probably in the next couple weeks then people are gonna realize like all the things you claimed you did they were all fluff so how are you gonna go back and tell people that look them in the eye and then tell him I have an NDA and I can't actually discuss anything that I learned in the last year It shouldn't fly Americans should do better and demand better Yeah Kyle Sarren thanks for your time Yeah, buddy. Always good to talk. Yes this is the broadcast that The Globalist failed to silence because of you the listeners and viewers your prayer your word of mouth and your support but I can tell you in the twilight of the great year 2025 You are the deciding factor! You are the variable whether or not we're going to stay on the air And it's been one long hell of a fight Now i'm told they're gonna have the auction early March at the state level To sell them full orders It's gonna be an open auction The good guys could buy it But the problem is

2:58:13 Thank you, Alex. Ben Shapiro talked about the shadowy groups- The shadowy confederacy that nobody identifies no one talks about Well, that's simply not true as anybody who has listened to this broadcast knows and has heard Alex name names for years with their own videos with their own books. But you do it even more than I have a whole library of them. It is naming names like

2:58:49 The whole backdrop is naming names and- Well look at David Rockefeller in reflections. Of course, there's people accusing him of conspiracy for world government to take over while guilty as charged! Yeah, David Rockefeller has multiple chapters in his memoirs about creating a global government about helping to found Bilderberg. The book I'm reading right now was a CFR historian Burton Hirsch So this counts as something along the lines of Tragedy and Hope by Carol Quigley. This is the old boys, it's the history of the CIA and OSS coming out of the wealthy families like The Rockefellers and support from The Rothschilds as well British intelligence helps to set up- I'm gonna shut up because you're a real historian on this. In fact, I should have thought of that. You're like the guy with their own quotes these are their books most of them are there books bragging he also didn't just say that we never named a shadow elites

2:59:40 He said we do it to make you feel powerless and to never give you policy. All we do is then develop policy ideas, many of which get adopted like everything he says is a lie. You want to play the short clips people have in context? Yeah please guys queue up Ben Shapiro last night attacking me and others that goes on and laughing about the USS Liberty saying the torpedo boats came to save them. The torpedoes were loving little gift packages here's a little bit Shapiro We have a duty to propose solutions That's why we have to talk about our problems in order to find the solutions. That is what politics was supposed to be about after all, finding solutions for common problems If you speak endlessly about the problems that we face without ever positing a solution other than wrecking the system or centralizing power in a cult like figure We are not finding solutions! We are merely making problem worse

3:00:33 Just asking questions, positing vague conspiracies, raving like Alex Jones about the secret confederacies that control your life. None of it makes your life better! NONE OF IT! In fact it makes your life markedly worse That's because if you truly come to believe that nothing in your life is under your control You can't even take control of your own life! You despair at your ability to change your circumstances and then you fail And YOU MUST NOT FAIL No, if you can't expose the secret control system it's not even secret. The public is ignorant then you could never get back control and we've been getting back control how about don't take the shots here's top experts whistleblower from Pfizer their former vice president head of vaccines before the shots rolled out

3:01:20 Yeadon saying it will attack your immune system and give you vaccine-induced AIDS, and everything that's happened in turbo cancers. No no no! We are giving you solutions don't trust you Ben You said all of us should take the shots, you supported the lockdowns I mean he is such a paper tiger...I'm gonna shut up Now i hand you the baton again J Dyer Well, it's also gaslighting too because he said that you'd never propose solutions when in fact this audience is the spearhead of waking people up to take action and to not be blackpailed. So really in logical fallacies that's a strong man. He setting up a position that Alex doesn't have that we don't have and then knocking that down and saying see if you listen to that guy you're gonna be black pilled or going to be unable to take action in your life

3:02:10 But let's deal with the first part of it because that ended up being what I was planning to talk about today, which was are there shadowy leads? Well they're not really shadowy. Maybe in decades past they were more shadowy but a lot of these elites have published books they've come out and they said what their plans are and as i've said many times on The Fourth Hour I've heard Alex saying that for years back 10 15 20 years ago when I first heard Alex 22 years And I thought what he said sounded a little far-fetched. I knew about the UN and the New World Order, and these kinds of ideas, and socialism and Marxism but that they would be that explicit in their texts was something that i just was a little skeptical about so I went and started buying these books and ever since then on my channel for example we've lectured through them for the last 10 years

3:02:57 And I've been reading those texts for 22, 23 years. So it's very real and it's very public but Ben Shapiro is counting upon the boomer mind matrix still controlling everybody in the neocon normie conservative world con ink world that no, it's all just incompetence. It's all just you know the libs they're There's no plan. There's no clout schwa, there's no Davos. There's no Bilderberg. There's no you know a pack that's trying to run American foreign policy now none of that exists all that exists as the libs the incompetent the Retarded libs well one of the most powerful wealthy men in America David Rockefeller As we all know he wrote a book called memoirs and on

3:03:45 It's kind of even shocking that we have to still talk about and defend this. I mean, this is 2025 it's not 1995. I can understand normie conservatives freaking out about the stuff back in the 90s but this is 2025 This is after global policies around wearing BDSM masks to fight off some virus that's going to kill everybody. This is not that era anymore. And I think Ben Shapiro doesn't realize he's cooked, to use the Gen Z term his time is already over because people can within a few seconds go and look up and see David Rockefeller wrote a chapter called Proud Internationalist where he says if you say that I'm guilty of wanting a global government in a new order, I stand guilty as charged absolutely. And he says that's why I created

3:04:42 the Council of Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission etc. That's not all he created he says that we also were involved in supporting and funding the Dulles brothers who were really sort of front people for the Rockefellers and that's why they became the founders of The OSS and CIA along with Bill Donovan and others to really get that flagship deep state operation going So if we get into the history not from conspiracy theorists, the history from Council on foreign relationship archivist much like Carol Quigley There's one called Britain my Burton Hirsch. The old boys are

3:05:19 The old boy network is referring to the old OSS and CIA network. And even prior to that, back to the Woodrow Wilson administration, The Inquiry which was a bunch of academics who operated as kind of the proto-CIA at that time. Even David Rockefeller's memoirs talks about the policies The Dallas is for example had about the Nazis and perhaps helping the Nazis out. And that doesn't mean that Nazis are running everything, but it means that there are higher groups that want there to be wars There are higher powers above nation states that can call the shots. That's exactly what these NGOs, think tanks foundations are created for is to kind of be above the nation state level to try to push policy trying to tell them what to do particularly for these globalist designs and you have right there in the chapter called proud internationalists David Rockefeller admitting that his goal, that's his job now there might be factions and divisions amongst the elites at times and they can also join

3:06:23 like mafia organizations do or like Don's do. Alex has played that clip many times of the Godfather sitting around at the table with the other Mafia, Dons, The Five Families and they're talking about whether they're going to start selling drugs or not? What we're talking about is similar to that it's just on a bigger scale. It's not little sections of New York or The Bronx or whatever its global steering committees meeting together to decide global policy Malthusian policies of depopulation to enforce things like international socialism, Fabian socialism etc. All of those things have been pushed at a very high level not just by one family the Rockefellers but By many elite families that for example Quigley in his book lists In many many chapters he says the

3:07:13 The Harrimans, the Rockefellers, the JP Morgans. The Schiff's the Warburgs of the Rothschilds so there is a confederation of these very wealthy elite oligarchical families that are smart enough to know how to construct bureaucratic entities that have a kind of criminal lockdown on the government. And that's why it's so difficult, even with a president who wants to change things to change things because there is an entrenched deep state as everyone calls it but the point is that that's not a conspiracy theory and even The New York Times admitted a couple years ago thank God for the Deep State right? So now it does exist It's just by way good thing before never existed in your crazy if you talk about

3:07:58 And then it moves into the phase of, well the deep state does exist and here's why that is a good thing. All these gay journalism, faking gay journalism titles We actually have so many historical texts and I studied in undergrad one class away from a double major in history and philosophy So for me history was very important we don't know how we got to where we are if we do not understand where were So, in history repeats there's always these kinds of cycles. If you read somebody like Spengler for example who was very influential on Henry Kissinger thought. Spangler talks about cycles of history and civilizations having a kind of an organic lifespan And then they have a flourishing and then they have it collapse

3:08:38 And usually that collapse has to do with degeneracy, laziness and the importation of third world or foreign entities to destroy the existing population. Weapons of mass migration as Kelly Greenhill's book discusses well, the elites, the power elite they know all about this and they've studied this for many centuries perhaps even millennia if you go back into old elite families of the black nobility and the Medici's and those kinds of families. They've understood bureaucracy, and how to manage big populations but it's just a treasure I would say when we have admissions in the books And a lot people say to me why do you care about what sorry? So we know there's new world order who cares with these books say well It's more than that

3:09:28 It's not just admissions, it is also understanding how they rule men. How they create organizations and steer them, co-opt them and even things like staging elections, throwing elections, how assassinations occur because there has been a long history of elite assassinations and government officials being taken out. Most famously, we've just had the Charlie Kirk assassination which there are I think valid questions that should be asked doesn't mean agree with everything that Candace says is just there's nothing wrong with asking these questions as they want to weaponize question-asking. So very thing that Ben Shapiro said if you ask these questions it's only because your malicious well there's nothing more effeminate than debating and calling into question everybody's motives

3:10:16 Because you can't prove or disprove motives unless you have somebody's explicit DMS, or emails saying ha ha I have bad motives. I'm gonna screw everything up No, there's no way to prove her disproved motives so it's a very Shady Slimy tactic to say that the only reason Tucker or anybody would raise questions is because they have bad motives and they're funded by Qatar and all this nonsense when The establishment itself has said many times over in their works, there are confederacies of open elites. It's not unknown it's open and so for example many writers who do write about this from more of a conspiracy critical perspective they talk about a wasp Zionist alliance that has occurred in the last several decades

3:11:05 If you go from the time of when Quigley wrote Tragedy and Hope, an Anglo-American establishment that was late 60s 70s. And then 1982 I think for Anglo American establishment it kind of leaves off with yeah the Rothschild's are involved but where then? Well since the Cold War there has been a WASP Zionist alliance And that didn't play out that great for the wasps over time because they ended up losing a lot of power, especially in the domain of foreign policy to the AIPAC Zionist Alliance. But in order to understand how we got to that, we have to understand that there was a desire to have a world war not because everybody was in on it or everybody understood the full plan

3:11:49 But that the thought was that out of a world war, we could have global governance. If everyone saw how bad a giant global conflict was and then we could get what League Of Nations or World War I? Well, that didn't pass it failed. The Wilsonian plans didn't come to full fruition and Wilson was an agent of Colonel Edwin Mandel house of the Rothschilds of the British elite banking circles So this is now on record not just from Anthony Sutton and people that wrote about that many decades ago. But yet another global elite text admits that Colonel Edwin Mandel Paus played a key role in maneuvering, blackmailing and positioning the Woodrow Wilson administration to ensure that America would begin its move towards soft socialism Fabian socialism capitalistic socialism

3:12:49 And it was very crucial to include and utilize figures like the Dulles brothers, Bill Donovan and others. So when we talk about this book Old Boys which I'm going to be lecturing through the whole text on my channel on YouTube if you want to see the full lectures you can go follow me there is that the beginning of the American superstructure of intelligence is not necessarily OSS. It's the World War I era of the inquiry, and this included key figures like Colonel Edwin Mandel House John Maynard Keynes, the famed Fabian socialist economist even though he was on a member of their society. He is the preeminent economist for the world, the Western world for the 20th century most institutions

3:13:29 Most economic thinkers, New York Times writer people etc. They are of the Keynesian ethos they believe in the good that war can actually help stimulate the economy that printing money can stimulate the economy etc all these principles that are opposed to Austrian economics etc. Keynesianism is what dominates and all of the intelligence operative founders for of the inquiry, OSSCI were Keynesians. They were Fabian socialists in their economic ideology even if they didn't become a member of some society they had this ideology and so it was Colonel Edwin Mandelhouse according to Burton Hirsch that dominated the Woodrow Wilson administration

3:14:21 And thus, British Secret Intelligence Service operatives were already working in the West. Already working to make sure that Woodrow Wilson pushed his 14 points etc., all the Wilsonian principles at the behest of The Royal Society Rothschild elites. That's who was really wanting this operation to go through. That's why we get the Federal Reserve it's these people. It's Colonel Iowa Mandel House Woodrow Wilson to be a supporter of the Federal Reserve. And this is all Keynesian, it is the inquiry that dominates the Paris Peace Commission in 1919 and this where people like Bill Donovan excuse me, where people like Allen Dulles, the Dulles brothers etc they begin to get their start here and they are members of a famous law firm called Sullivan & Cromwell

3:15:13 So the first several chapters of Burton Hirsch's book deal with the history of Sullivan and Cromwell, British intelligence Woodrow Wilson etc. And all these figures kind of beginning this push towards America's move away from isolationism into internationalism What did David Rockefeller say in his chapter? I'm a proud internationalist In other words America needs to be involved, not just in every big global conflict but because it needs to become an empire. To police the world control the world around the world and

3:18:13 Ho, ho, ho, ho. Merry Christmas! Welcome back to the fourth hour of The Oxygen Show we are discussing the book The Old Boys an official Council on Foreign Relations historians take on the origins of the OSS and CIA and even the pre-war intelligence period of World War I of the inquiry. We were talking about the infamous figure of Colonel Edwin Mandel House, who by the way wrote a book called Philip Drew Administrator about how a back channel backdoor handler could control and cajole the president into doing what the secretive Confederacy of shadowy people

3:18:57 Wanted done so we're naming names. We're talking about people and keep in mind Burton Hirsch is not a conspiracy theorist He's a little bit on the left you could say historian from the Aspen Institute any member of the Council on foreign relations And this book is based on over 100 declassified texts. So much like Quigley or something like that, and this is not in any stretch of the imagination a conspiracy text it's all based on official documents cables etc declassified papers. The book begins going into the history of the relationship between the Dulles brothers Sullivan and Cromwell and various big geopolitical operations

3:19:44 And the reason that law firms play a key role here is that these institutions are very interested in lawfare. As we know, for example, in Alex's travails what he said to deal with in terms of lawfare this is really just the old CIA model of not just Lawfare as attacking individuals but writing international laws so that certain companies corporations and entities can get around it so that they have an advantage So if you're wealthy enough, if you're powerful enough. If you are a CIA connected law firm like Sullivan and Cromwell was back in the days of the Dulles brothers then you have the ability to for example create The Panama Canal and that's exactly what was one their first operations was creating legally The Panama Canal using Sullivan and Cromwell Another figure who came through prominence in these circles is William Bullitt

3:20:40 And B-U-L-O-I-T-T, Bullitt was an early intelligence operative and ambassador. The first ambassador under the Wilson era up into FDR to the Soviets and he pushed for US to recognize the Soviet Union He pushed for a deal with Lenin that would allow the West and the US to recognize the Bolshevik government. And in turn, Lenin would have to give up certain things like abandoning the persecution of the expatriate white Russians and end certain blockades. This ended up falling through but you can begin to see that this was again a push

3:21:21 when there was a Rockefeller Center run Bolshevik Revolution that was all run out of New York according to Anthony Sutton. And what we get from the Burton Hirsch book is essentially a vindication of what Anthony Sutton said, that the Bolshevik Revolution was run out of Wall Street not just by WASP corporations and banks and companies but also By Zionist banking interests including the Warburg's, The Schiff's And entity and operatives like William Bullitt, who himself was a Jewish believer. Or at least in some sense he was maternally from his matrilineal descent was Jewish I don't know how serious he was about it but again we noticed that there's an often push for communism socialism by individuals with this kind of attitude

3:22:14 And although this failed and the League of Nations failed, you can see that the circles of Bullet. The circles of Edwin Mandelhouse and Bullet worked directly with Colonel House. Bullitt also spent a lot of time in gallivanting around with Sigmund Freud. You can see the circles in the ideology at work here again. That's also the circles of Tavistock employed some of the ideologies of Sigmund Freud from And another figure in the inquiry circles, probably the most famous figure in these circles of the pre-OSSIA intelligence apparatus was Walter Lippmann. And Lippman wasn't just known for his intelligence stuff or his Tavistock affiliation he was the creator of this, the founder of public opinion

3:23:06 His early book was public opinion and how to steer and craft public opinion so that it would support any of the war efforts that the elite wanted, particularly the Rothschild Zionist elite wanting America to participate in World War I and World War II. But also All the way down to today's Tavistock studies on convincing people to accept the transgender agenda. And if you get deep into Tavistock, I mean they're deeply involved in the critical race theory stuff. They have branches in Michigan at Michigan University that were pioneering studies on CRT, pioneering anti-white studies etc., all of that comes out of Tavistock and these individuals

3:23:51 The book moves on to discuss, even after the failure of the League of Nations... ...these same entities turning again to figure out a way to create international bodies and institutions that could supposedly save the world from war. So the false push for peace isn't really about that. It's about creating international entities and organizations that benefit these oligarchical elites like the Rockefeller Foundation, etc., and the Rockefellers make up a significant part of the next several chapters because while Bill Donovan, the original choice man for running the OSS together with the British intelligence operatives they came in help set it set

3:24:35 Bill Donovan began as a Rockefeller Foundation worker. He was an official sort of representative attache person who was involved in missions to send food supplies and various conflict zones, and then he gets recruited by JP Morgan to go into meet with Lloyd George the famous labor Fabian socialist prime minister in the UK who was working at the behest of Lionel Curtis and the Fabian socialists in the Rothschilds to push socialism in the UK. Well, that ended up impressing a lot of people and although Donovan didn't immediately get appointed to high level position Herbert Hoover wasn't impressed with him but appointed him to a lesser position in the Philippines. But this allowed them to get more intelligence experience and more of his adventurism and whatnot

3:25:29 And eventually he gets promoted to being the head of the OSS, appointed to the head of that. This is at a period too when we're supposedly in the midst of you know, the dangers of Nazi Germany there's all this threat and it turns out the Dulles brothers not only are they aiding and supporting the financiers of Hitler like how Mar shocked others who was part of the United Steel Cartel, people like Albert Vogler. It turns out the Dulles brothers all end up supporting and doing law work to help not just the people around Tiny Mustache Man but also Franco. Now you might think well, people are beginning to popularize and think that Hitler's a good guy now and they're fans of all that. Well The Dulles Brothers

3:26:29 are, first of all they're not Christian. They're not into any kind of like really bathed kind of right wing politics. They're really just power political players and they see the cause of Hitler as something that really isn't worth America getting involved in. So they had a kind of an America First view and America First at that time just simply meant not being involved in foreign conflicts and But the problem is that they're not some sort of based anti-Jewish Zion, anti-Zionist law firm. They're actually pro Zionists so you could be both you could be aiding and supporting the rise of Hitler in working at the Schroeder Bank and working on these other banks that helped to fund and aid Hitler and also supporting Zionism. And I point this out quite often some months ago as in studio with Alex

3:27:27 And I talked about the dual appeasement strategy that the British elites had to goad Hitler into attacking, because they wanted World War II to happen. And on Twitter, it just erupted in a firestorm. There was several if you total it up there's a few millions of views and just thousands and thousands of the Nazi bots, the bot sees on Twitter coming after me attacking me all the neo pagan retards are coming at me why? Well because it's impossible because Hitler arrested a couple Rothschilds seized a few of their properties.

3:28:05 in Austria and their banks. And so there's no way that there could be establishment support for Hitler. Well, here is another book admitting that the dullest law firm of Solon and Cromwell, that they were helping all of the pro-Franco, pro-fascist, Hitler law firms and they were also pro-Zionist. And in fact, when people complained about Dulles he would just simply say I've aided and supported all kinds of Jewish Zionists banking interests. And if you really get into this there's not a real conflict here because even Hitler and the Nazis early on in the Havara Agreement

3:28:47 supported the exporting of Jews to Palestine. And so Hitler was actually pro-Zionist, he wanted Jews to leave He thought that would be better for them and so the cartel system that existed in Germany at that time The Dulles brothers saw this as a great means to step in And because Germany was in debt, the German economy was pretty bad. The Weimar economy was bad. The Dulles brothers also saw an economic situation here that we could step in if we fund a lot of this will have a huge stake in the future of Germany and so Kurt Schroeder, the banker Was working hand-in-hand together with the Dulles as they also supported a homeland for the Jews in Palestine pro Zionist In fact

3:29:43 Dulles says that he was an acquaintance of and a supporter of Chaim Weizmann, and his Zionist project. So the Warburgs, Kuhn & Loeb etc., they were at that time opposing Hitler but Sullivan and Cromwell, Allen Dulles and others were actually working together to for the Rothschild's get The land and the banks that were seized in Austria by Hitler the Rothschilds. So, the story goes much deeper than good guy bad guy people always want to try to portray this as well who's a good guy who's a bad guy? It's a lot deeper than that there's a lot of nuance there's a lot of power players trying to get ahold of corporations and companies.

3:30:32 And why was this? Well, it turns out that they understood there was a war coming and whoever could have a stake in those countries in the coming post-war period would then be able to rebuild. And it would be a whole new market that was created. In fact, Sutton has a whole chapter discussing that The New York corporate firms, Wall Street firms and Jewish banking firms understood that when there was a Bolshevik revolution this would open up Russia to being rebuilt by the West to huge corporate power and banking power. To huge markets in other words so it's not just about wars are not just fought for good guy bad guy ideologies and we're saving the homeland against the invaders

3:31:18 Wars are actually fought in the modern era for cartels and that's what Burton Hirsch admits in the first several chapters of his book is that German cartels had a huge impetus and motivation For there to be a war. And so they were all involved In eventually hopping on to support Hitler and the war effort not everyone For example, the Warburgs and the Schiff's Kuhn and Loeb. Some of those interests did oppose Hitler but it doesn't follow from that there were no Western elite Wall Street corporate banking interest supporting either because there were again this backs up another one of

3:32:01 the books by Sutton, Wall Street and The Rise of Hitler. So that's a Hudson Institute writer writing about this and here is a CFR guy writing about it admitting it yeah sure of course there was a lot of support from the Dulles brothers who represented not just Hitler associated corporations and cartels but also Franco's corporations and businesses and they did this indirectly And that's probably because some of them were actually, they probably were fascists. I mean there was plenty of people in the British establishment, the Malthusian sort of British elites. The king himself at one point Wallace Simpson a lot of those people favored the Nazi ideology and again this is not a good guy bad guy scenario this is all just the reality of the power struggle and power situations

3:32:54 Some of these people, by the way eventually went to go write Hollywood screenplays. They wrote a lot of the films in the 1930s and 40s. In fact in my third book, Esoteric Hollywood 3 I go into some of the circles of British intelligence that sent screenwriters to Hollywood one of the women was named Helen McInnes and she literally wrote several films for British intelligence to convince Americans to get involved in the war effort Now she didn't write every Hitchcock film, but you can see in the case of some of the Hitchcock films. Hitchcock was in the quarter circle pushing in Hollywood also to get America involved in World War II. So films like Saboteur in 1942 where you have Nazi networks in the US sabotaging and committing espionage etc., which actually there is some truth to that. There was actually

3:33:45 a network of German espionage in the US under the guidance of a guy named Heinrich Albert, together with Franz von Poppen and a guy named Gerhard Vestrick. They were running and involved in nationwide assassination and espionage operations on the part of Germany. And I think eventually Verstrick and I think Albert were expelled from the US But that's because they were also, at least in the case of Vestrick was working with the Dulles brothers. So this is also the birthplace of Operation Paperclip as well right? So paper clip plays a role in this and Galenorg which has Reinhard Galen's European espionage network for the Nazis once The Nazis lose it's the CIA just sort of takes over those networks And that's the origin of today's German BND. The German intelligence is originally the Galen org Network

3:34:42 That doesn't mean that today's German intelligence are Nazis. They're totally insane, just like all of the other European networks they're all just totally basically cucked tranny supporting lunatics now and that's where we are is that You can say what you will about World War II. I'm not pro-fascist, but what ended up winning wasn't Western capitalism. What ended up winning World War II and what ended up becoming the basis for the EU was Fabian socialism that's socialism combined with Western capitalism. That's what also being pushed, not just by people like Woodrow Wilson and Colonel Edwin Mandel House in these figures back at the time of World War I and the establishment of Federal Reserve but also people like Louis Brandeis. So the Supreme Court was very infested with open socialist judges at this time

3:35:41 You had a vice president who is a Fabian socialist as well, communist openly. So these networks these infiltrators these are all very real but even Hollywood can exaggerate this right there's films like above suspicion which I think was written by Helen McInnes the British intelligence operative Reunion in France, Foreign Correspondent. Even Hitchcock's Notorious in 1946 These are all basically propaganda films and I'm not saying they're bad films many of them are excellent They're very well made very well done films But they're also part of the propaganda war effort. And going back after reading a lot of this material and watching a lot of 1940s, 50s films like you can see how many of these films are also propagandas it's so transparent nowadays Of course if you go back in time and people had no clue about how sophisticated propaganda was but long story short is that yeah Chase Bank all of these entities are connected through the Dulles to the Schroeder Trust

3:36:47 And this is where that long rumored legend story of Nazi gold and stolen loot being somehow spirited out to Switzerland and Swiss banks, and whatnot. Well, Burton Hirsch's book actually touches on that and that has to do with the Dulles' helping these groups get around international laws and blockades by Because America had economic sanctions against Germany and the Rockefeller investment banking combine, which was a combination of Avery Rockefeller Kurt Von Schroeder and the Dulles brothers aiding them to legally get around certain international laws so that Corporations could still like Royal Dutch Shell support Hitler in the war effort. And anytime that Alan Dulce would be questioned about it he would just simply say well I helped out Jewish bankers too

3:37:45 So he didn't really deny it. He just said, well look I help everybody so that's we're a law firm that's what we do but to get around the sanctions To in some way take some of this Nazi loot spirited away nobody knows exactly what happened all that or where it went It's kind of a famous historical legend Well my guess would be that has something to do with What Burton Hirsch is talking about here and this is not antithetical Zionist interests either so people think oh well this is so you're just talking about how Nazis are bad and You won't talk about no we were saying that there's power elites sometimes they disagree Even amongst the British power elite. You had a faction that were arable files who were obsessed with Islam they loved

3:38:33 Arab and Islamic culture people like T. Lawrence, people like Gertrude Belle People like St John Philby People you know even amongst the Royal Society, Lionel Curtis's and these kinds of people But you also have people who were pro-Zionist In the Rothschild circles amongst those elites and even some of the spies like T.E. Lawrence sometimes he sounds like a rabid Zionist, and sometimes he sounds like a rabid Islamic anti-Zionist so with these kinds of power players they can flip sides they can you know flip flop They can support both sides That's also a possibility people overlooked the possibility of funding it supporting both sides

3:39:14 And just because one family or branch of Rothschilds gets arrested in Germany by Hitler, it doesn't follow from that the Rothschilds aren't also involved at some level through international banking interests in wanting a world war. It just simply means that Hitler started doing things that people who originally goaded him on didn't necessarily want him to do. Just like Saddam Hussein might be supported and aided by And the CIA is trained by the CIA and then he comes to power. And well, he starts doing things off script and most time to get rid of Saddam Hussein so all these things are possibilities it doesn't follow from this that there was no Western banking corporate elite support for Hitler or that there wasn't Hitler's support for Zionist interests in fact The Nation State Of Israel you could argue

3:40:06 couldn't even have been established. There wasn't even a justification for the United Nations recognition of Israel in 1948, had it not been for Hitler and World War II? I'm not saying it was good, I'm just saying that's the reality of the justification for the establishment of the nation state of Israel and its acceptance by the United Nations in 1948. That's all because of what Hitler did in World War II in 1940 so the pressure all sides here. And there's not good guys and bad guys necessarily, I'm not saying there's no heroes in wartime. I'm just saying to look at big scale 20th century geopolitics and then try to figure out the good guy versus the bad guy is a very naive simplistic approach. And it overlooks the fact that communists in Russia killed something like 60 million people.

3:41:06 Right, okay. And many of them were Orthodox Christians there were dozens and dozens more millions believed to be killed by Mao than even in Russia so if there's 30 60 90 million people being killed over there oh but the only thing that matters in the west is the six million or so allegedly in the holocaust Well, why are those lives more mystically valuable than all the others? And I'm not saying there weren't Jews killed. I think Jews were killed but i'm saying There's nothing about their that DNA that makes them more powerful or more mystically special Than the Christians that died in Russia

3:41:49 So, demo side is a problem all around. And there's no it's just absurd to pick one group to say they're the only group that really matters the rest of the millions of people that died their lesser That's all Israeli first propaganda. That's what Ben Shapiro represents I've asked for years to debate Ben Shapiro Of course he's not going to debate me He's not gonna be Alex or anybody who would give him real pushback Ben Shapiro is a dual citizen and he represents the foreign interest. And his time is passing away, people are tired of all that propaganda and they're waking up to America being put into the primary position. This is Jay's analysis I'm Jay Dyer you can go watch my stuff on my channel. Ladies and gentlemen, I cannot do this without you. You're the reason we're here, your our sponsor, you are what keeps us on air