3:05:29 Big fan of the prisoner. In fact, I put a whole chapter in my second book on the prisoner there because I'm a huge fan of it too. And really the key insight that the prisoner gives is dialectics and the control of both sides of conflicts and how spies are a window into that world of dialectical control. But in your first couple hours today, you mentioned several key things that reminded me of Admissions and whistleblower books over the years, one of which was The Secret Team by Fletcher Prouty, where he talks about being involved in doing a lot of these sort of covert operations on behalf of the CIA. And he wrote this book, which influenced Oliver Stone to create the script for JFK.
3:06:15 Other books like Jim Mars's book had an effect on that movie too, but point being, you know, this is real stuff. This other world really works. And when you read books like secret team by Fletcher Proudy, you see that. They're involved in everything from stagecraft, going and faking things to actually running and controlling terror networks, setting off real explosives and so forth. The first thing I thought of was the secret team because it's very providential this last couple of weeks, we were reviewing a lot of information on OKC. Although I haven't thought about OKC in a long time, I wanted to go back and review some of that material and documentaries like Noble Lie,
3:06:55 some of the work that Alex did back in the day on that. In fact, in some of the documentaries that you look at on that, you'll find people like General Ben K. Parton are interviewed and that's somebody that Alex has talked about for many, many years about how he discussed way ahead of everybody else, they were going to bring in the socialist world order. The reason I'm bringing that up is the socialist technocratic world order that they would like to bring in, actually ties into the grooming sex rings, especially in the UK that we've seen connected to a lot of Islamic networks and groups, as well as the terror because what's the common denominator here? It's Islam. Now I'm not pro-Islam at all. In fact, I think everybody knows if you've watched my stuff in the last five years, I've debated all of the top Muslims on Islam, especially.
3:07:47 famous ones except for Muhammad Jabb, who said that he would not debate me. So he backed out of that for whatever reason. But all the other ones, I don't think did too well in the debate. So you can't say that I'm somebody who's pro-Islam at all. In fact, the more that I looked into Islam the last five or six years for these debates, the more I became anti-Islamic. So certainly not a fan of Islam, but I also recognize the reality of false flags. And that Islam, or especially the Western funded groups and outfits like the White House, Al Qaeda and then ISIS and all the different instantiations of this ISIL and all the different rebrandings that they gave it over the years throughout the Obama administration. Those were, as one analyst put it that I interviewed many years back, he called them skeleton keys. And he said they're skeleton keys because they go into regions or areas when they're needed to cause chaos, particularly usually for the Western power elite. So for example, if you recall many years ago,
3:08:42 The CFR put out a statement that has now been scrubbed where they were calling for this is back maybe 2011, 2012. They were calling for more ISIS in Syria to overthrow Assad. And this was explicitly written with the context of a lot of Western intelligence agency support. This week I went and dug up the Michael Michael Schreier interviews who was the former head of the bin Laden unit where he discussed even with RT and other outlets. very candidly that the US basically creates their own enemies. Now I'm not saying that Islam is completely a creation of America or the West, the British Empire. I'm not saying that at all. In fact, obviously Islam goes back many, many centuries, 6th, 7th, 8th century, is where you get the rise of Islam throughout various heretical groups like the Nestorians, the Aryans. Muhammad was influenced by the Talmud, influenced by Gnostic texts. There's a coalition of things that influenced Muhammad.
3:09:42 and his warlords to create this pseudo religion. And it becomes a very powerful force, especially when you get various caliphs and various rulers that utilize Islam throughout history. the British Empire, for example, had to grapple with and engage in a lot of subterfuge against the Ottoman Empire. And one of the things the British Empire thought they could do was utilize Mecca, utilize Islam, and Wahhabism and so forth. I've always had a lot of British imperial support, Muslim Brotherhood has had British espionage support.
3:10:21 Over the years and this goes back to T. Lawrence this goes back to Kim Philby forming a lot of alliances with various Islamic tribes Muslim tribes groups Arab tribes and groups and then carving up the Middle East. to settle between the British Empire and France and the Sykes-Picot, how to set up this colonial system throughout the Middle East. And one of the things they did was make sure to align themselves with Saudi Arabia, which is essentially the Wahhabist sort of radical extreme. And it's really from that hotbed from which you get people like Osama Bin Laden and these other characters over the years who function as very useful assets, particularly during the late 70s, 78, 79, the Soviet Afghanistan conflict. They were useful because they were essentially the,
3:11:18 army that we train. And in fact, you can go look up the examples of the freedom fighters being invited to the White House. So Reagan has the Mujahideen in the White House as a photo operation to promote the notion of the freedom fighters. There's clips of Brzezinski going and talking to the Mujahideen. And he says, that land is yours, God gave you that. and funding these types of groups. But it's not new, it was what the British Empire did for a long time prior to that, making alliances with. In fact, one of the most famous spies of the British Empire, Kim Philby's dad, St. John Philby, became a Salafi Muslim. He converted supposedly. Now whether he really converted or whether he was doing that for his espionage purposes is anybody's guess. But you have to understand the alliance between
3:12:25 The West and radical Islam is not new. It's a long term thing, but it's certain groups of Islam, certain sects of Islam. And even with the other sects like the Shia in Iran, there are, I think, backdoor deals. In fact, once it was evident that there would not be any kind of revolution or color revolution in Iran. They went with aligning themselves kind of in the background with the Ayatollah. So I don't even think the Ayatollah is a real opposition. I think they're kind of allowed to be there and say we're rattling and be a threat and may make threats when they're needed. So long story short, the a lot of what we see as supposed Islamic terror is not organic. It's used by power blocks to
3:13:13 to provoke and to cause events to occur when it's needed or when it's useful to the Atlantis' power block. And what's amazing is that many of the espionage writers like Miles Copeland, in his book Game of Nations, he talks about how the CIA loves Muslim terrorists. They're not opposed to it. It's a very useful tool when they need it. And he talks about himself when he was involved in Egypt. He was first involved in Syria and then he moved on to do operations in Egypt throughout the Cold War. And he says, yeah, anytime we needed a Muslim terrorist, we could manufacture one. We could find some idiot who was willing to go die. And that religion is perfectly fitted to facilitate that kind of apathy.
3:13:59 But if you compare that with the recent situation, to fast forward to where we are now, and by the way, it's pretty well known throughout the last 20 years that the new instantiations like ISIS. Remember when ISIS was riding around in Toyotas? Where did they suddenly get a bunch of Toyotas, right? When they were riding around with a bunch of weaponry that suddenly was there. Well, Michael Schroeder says that all the weaponry that we sent over to these countries and aiding them and giving all the mis-aid throughout the last 20 years ended up accidentally in the hands of radical Muslims. Why is that?
3:14:35 Well, Israel helped found Hamas. And we even had the head of the Mossad recently came out and talked about how ISIS and these groups are very useful to the CIA, British intelligence and Mossad. So they don't really necessarily have a problem per se. They manage these oppositions and they control them and let them do certain things. They could easily be gotten rid of. But sometimes these groups are not so perpetual threats are useful in different regions. That's my theory. That's why Iran has these kind of weird radical ayatollahs that are allowed to be there. And they have backdoor deals. The Biden administration gives billions of dollars to both sides of that conflict.
3:15:19 So there's no easy you know good guy bad guy in these situations and I think that's why it's so hard for so many people to understand this but when you understand that you do have an evil. Essentially what deep state entrenched intelligence apparatus who's able to use secret team operations and has. decades and decades and decades. Then it makes sense how they can manufacture or that they can send in some drugged up or mind control Patsy to detonate a Tesla or whatever. I think in that case, it looks really suspicious. Why would he be deployed to Afghanistan from this from Port Bragg just like the other terrorist who attacked what the day before? I think that's completely suspicious and perhaps that guy's a Patsy. Perhaps they're both Patsy's.
3:16:02 Supposedly, he's a Trump supporter and that buddy's blowing up Teslas in front of the Trump Tower. Well, that's a manufactured event, I would say right away because it doesn't make sense with his MO that he would do that. Why would a Trump supporter go blow up a Tesla in front of the Trump Tower? Other reports came out with him wearing Ukraine shirts. Jack Presobio posted an image of that. Whether these things are true or false is hard to verify. There was another report that he had mysteriously changed his signal updates and information on Signal app, supposedly after the event, which is odd. How would that happen unless he was being handled or run or a Patsy? So remember, just like in the case with McVeigh, if you go back and look at
3:16:51 The inconsistencies with McVeigh, how they overlooked and ignored the fact that McVeigh had John Doe number two, famously that suddenly that disappeared. There were some 20 plus witnesses who believed and confessed that they saw a second person with McVeigh. That was all ignored and scrubbed and forgotten. There were other inconsistencies with the blast pattern and radius of a supposedly a truck. would not be able to essentially bring down half of the building. I think General Parton talks about that in the documentary. They talk about evidence of McVeigh being seen after his supposed death sentence and video evidence even of people interviewing at a military base and seeing someone who appears to look like McVeigh at a weapons manufacturing base.
3:17:45 And all of that is just completely ignored by the mainstream media, including the letters that were published in the New York Times that Timothy McVeigh wrote to his sister talking about how he had been recruited into covert operations. And he was kind of unsure exactly what was going on and he couldn't talk about this and that. But in other words, suggesting that he was sheep dip, which means that he was under some form of cover as if he had left the military or he had left failed out of special forces training. But in fact, that's the cover that he was using for black ops. And then we have the connection to Germany. The Tesla guy has a connection to being deployed in Germany. Andreas Strassmayer, who was obviously a key element and player in the OKC event,
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