POWERFUL MUST-WATCH INTERVIEW: Trump Lawyers Confirm Obama & Biden Can Have Their Presidential Immunity Stripped By Congress Impeaching Them After They've Left Office, Paving The Way For Their Criminal Charges Of Seditious Conspiracy / Treason!

00:00 We either deep six the Deep State or the Deep State deep sixes us. And for President Trump, either he drains the swamp or the swamp will drain him. I recommend going through the impeachment route. I think that constitutionally that's the proper protocol for a president or vice president anyway so impeach them! Also it's great for the midterms The go through an impeachment proceeding, disclose it publicly everything that went on in the House. Go through the impeach Barack Hussein Obama, impeach Joe Biden- You can't impeach somebody after the fact that means pull their presidential immunity removed their presidential immunity by defrocking them Exactly and in publicly exposing this for once and for all and if there be some consequence For all of this And so that's one parallel trap If Trump could get that done they would win a hundred seats in the house

00:47 Correct, it would be a massive way. It's what the public is begging for is cleaning up this corruption once and for all and we need accountability in consequence. We remember back to the late 1970s were on the verge of some consequence from the MKUltra disclosures from the assassinations committee all those things by Frank Churches Select Committee on Intelligence And then all of a sudden it all got cleaned up in the early 80s with the Iran-Contra hostage deal that the Reagan administration secretly cut and they put the deep state back in charge. They have never faced consequences ever since, and they almost assassinated Reagan so Reagan got the message to back off and let Poppy Bush run the show on the intelligence side of the equation, that's what happened as he had done previously. Then at the same time brought in people like Barr, Mueller, all those guys go back to that time period. Comey to certain degree goes back to that time period

01:35 So the but on the other track, they can bring all the criminal indictments and they need by simply having that of the right people assigned to strike force have have the right wing versions of honest versions of Andrew Weissman assigned to this. Bulldogs who understand criminal law know how to go after these people do not do the case in a district of corruption. Take the case down to the Southern District of Florida, whereas we explained at the time Alex I mean We talked about what that was attempted another cover-up The raid on President Trump's house was to grab the files so they could permanently destroy them knowing that Trump didn't have it You called with over a year you said total statute limitations and again around the jurisdictional thing of the DC

02:15 The raid opens that up and we now know what you said at the time, the raid was about getting documents Trump legally had that implicated Obama, Clapper, Brennan, Cummings. The government fears Alex Jones who has the largest audience in the country bigger than any of the networks, the biggest megaphone in the country. The deep state hates Alex Jones with a vengeance. Alex Jones is the most extraordinary person I've ever met My good friend an amazing constitutional lawyer and also very informed historian, endowed into the Trump administration. Robert Barnes of vivabarneslaw.locals.com, barnes underscore law on X or by should follow him is here for the rest of the hour I want to get into crossfire hurricane Obama will there finally be indictments that's the word i'm getting you see this strike force uh there's no sexual limitations on seditious conspiracy they could do it to The Proud Boys and Oath Keepers they can do it to Obama

03:15 who I believe is really one of the best lawyers in the country, Trump's top lawyer David Shown says that they can use a Democrat's own argument to prove Obama could still be impeached stripped of immunity and indicted for his crimes. Or as Trump write that the Supreme Court ruling actually protects Obama? I'll be happy just to get Brennan Clapper, Comey Garland and others then we'll look at what's really going on with Epstein. I really respect Barnes sources and take on that. And then also want the ongoing Doge operations and more with the one, the only Robert Barnes show. We can also look at the latest on the COVID shots and then the battles there with Kennedy and people trying to override him in the administration. Robert Barnes great to have you I just threw out a spectrum of big things I want to hit what would you like to tackle first my friend?

04:10 Well, just first out of the gate. You said years ago never nuke Godzilla you are looking like a lean mean fighting machine that system should not have tried to take you out your better sharper and stronger than ever before. The two year point that you're just talking about fluoride that you mentioned before with Tim Dillon and others, you nailed it. Pam Bondi continues to undermine good efforts at other aspects of the Trump administration, not just her mishandling of the Epstein files of mishandling of other issues, the Roger Ver case. Roger Ver being still his still facing criminal charges and life in prison when for taxes he didn't owe when he kept begging to know what taxes he supposedly owed based on a bogus crypto case brought by the Biden administration.

04:53 But to the fluoride point, the great work by Robert Kennedy. Great work by The Fluoride Action Network that won that suit in federal court said fluoride needs to come out and she needs to be identified as the toxin that you identify it is, that it has been, that the court decision said it was and then what does Bondi do? She goes and works with The Chemical Association to appeal that challenge that and undermine that. And this is happening repeatedly I'll give another example. Robert Kennedy's trying to take apart everything that is happening with the COVID vaccine, getting it off the kids list. Ultimately getting off the prep lists, getting it off any lists for pregnant women, getting it all for young men, young people generally and then what's happening in the Brooke Jackson case? Brooke Jackson for those who may not remember is the whistleblower blew the whistle on Pfizer all the way back in September of 2020 when Attorney General Bill Barr hit from President Trump.

05:44 disclosing that the Pfizer vaccine that was promised contractually to be safe, effective vaccine for the prevention of COVID-19 and got billions of dollars from our taxpayer money. In fact turned around it was a dangerous ineffective not even a vaccine and didn't prevent COVID 19 and consequently she brought a key to him. Katie, a false claims act came case and that was dismissed because the Biden administration said vaccines are holy they can't be challenged. They didn't dispute a single fact that we allege they only said vaccines are holy can't be challenged so that variation thereof well guess what? The bond body is doing Bonnie's telling the Fifth Circuit

04:53 But to the fluoride point, the great work by Robert Kennedy. Great work by The Fluoride Action Network that won that suit in federal court said fluoride needs to come out and she needs to be identified as the toxin that you identify it is, that it has been, that the court decision said it was and then what does Bondi do? She goes and works with The Chemical Association to appeal that challenge that and undermine that. And this is happening repeatedly I'll give another example. Robert Kennedy's trying to take apart everything that is happening with the COVID vaccine, getting it off the kids list. Ultimately getting off the prep lists, getting it off any lists for pregnant women, getting it all for young men, young people generally and then what's happening in the Brooke Jackson case? Brooke Jackson for those who may not remember is the whistleblower blew the whistle on Pfizer all the way back in September of 2020 when Attorney General Bill Barr hit from President Trump.

05:44 disclosing that the Pfizer vaccine that was promised contractually to be safe, effective vaccine for the prevention of COVID-19 and got billions of dollars from our taxpayer money. In fact turned around it was a dangerous ineffective not even a vaccine and didn't prevent COVID 19 and consequently she brought a key to him. Katie, a false claims act came case and that was dismissed because the Biden administration said vaccines are holy they can't be challenged. They didn't dispute a single fact that we allege they only said vaccines are holy can't be challenged so that variation thereof well guess what? The bond body is doing Bonnie's telling the Fifth Circuit

06:19 that the Trump administration has the exact same vaccine policy as the Biden administration, even though Robert Kennedy has made it crystal clear it's exactly the opposite of the Biden administration. So we see these constant efforts by Pam Bondi to under and she received $200,000 connected a Pfizer law firm that she was working for and lobbying for just a few years ago. She's dismissed all foreign corrupt practices act claims concerning Pfizer according to published reports the those included the Pfizer bribing the European Union to get the COVID vaccine through the European Union. And by the way, Barnes I had a hunch you'd go here first that's why didn't even mention it but you've been involved in these suits with Kennedy and key whistleblowers from Pfizer we don't just want to attack Mondi and all this but it has to be done and Susie Wiles as well they're both have that consultancy firm

07:08 that one of their main clients is Pfizer and they keep overriding what Kennedy's doing and what Trump promised. And it really is a major scandal, so I want you to elaborate on that and how do you think we should handle this? Because if this continues on, I'm going to have to go to war with Suze Wiles and Pam Bondi because as you know, on the fluoride You mentioned it, but you can elaborate. We have the suit one we have the FDA saying taking out we have the head of HHS saying we have thousands of studies new FDA study Indexing and all a whole bunch of states banning it The public wants that out though nobody in the world even has anymore And then she goes in and has the inspector general say, no we wanna keep it in. And we're gonna fight this and appeal this court victory. This is the courts and the proper way with lawsuits class action. This has all been done properly and decades of work and brain damaged children and then she does this I mean, it makes me really pissed off

08:05 Absolutely, I mean, I think there's no choice about it. We got swampy Susie Wiles as chief of staff she placed a couple of people in Robert Kennedy staff that to be sort of minders they helped approve a mRNA vaccine for particular groups of COVID kids while he was on vacation here to come back and fire both of them the one of them apparently tried to damage his car on the way out so i mean that did The problem is source of a lot of problems is you know Suzy Wilds is a career lobbyist That's what she does goes back to the Reagan administration has big corporate clients, military industrial complex clients. Big pharma clients, big agriculture clients I mean is it a coincidence we keep seeing these amnesty sanctuary policies being discussed with the Trump administration by Trump himself on immigration related to big ag? It keeps coming back to this when- So what do we know about her and again Bondy worked for her and their thick esteems everybody was worried about Bondy because of this connection now it's not We're worried its proof

09:01 And God knows what else they're doing. What do we do about this? I think we have to kind of start putting that part of the administration on blast, I think we gotta expose it to the world We gotta discuss it. I know there's a lot of people who are afraid to discuss it because they don't want to have their access shut off And you know, Swampy Susie has made that crystal clear. But I'll give you an example of where it's backfired. You know, it was Suzy Wiles who took out Paul Danz as part of Project 2025 during the campaign. He was the guy who was going to take apart the administrative state not be dependent on corporate lobbyists. Well she took him out so much that he was not part of the new Trump administration.

09:36 He was a guy I knew during the first Trump administration, real true blue believer understood the deep state. Understood how to deep six the deep state spent four years strategizing how to do it in terms of administrative policy then swampy Susie got him kicked well guess what he decided to do now that he can't be in the White House? He's now challenging Lady Lindsey Graham for the Senate in South Carolina so we're actually going to have a MAGA populist primary challenger to Lady Lindsey who is busy trying blow up our US economy in order to wage war on Russia all over again, as you were mentioning yesterday how insane that is. So we've just got to put these people are... We talked about it during the first term, we identified the people that were problematic. You repeatedly pointed out the people that were problematic and the people that stayed silent, the people that pretended Bill Barr was secretly good and pretended John Durham was up to God's work, the people that pretended

10:25 Bringing in a guy like Bolton would be good for American foreign policy, or putting Elliott Abrams in charge of Venezuela was not a good idea. All of those things you highlighted your dead right on Trump up to the minute all those people were mistakes so we've just gotta call it out where it is yet You can't have swampy Susie running the White House. You can't have swell as you know I never try to get access and you've worked for Trump and done stuff for him in 2020 election fraud. The real thing we do is just trying to be advocates for and try to keep them on the straight and narrow, then there's all this fake influencer spin that if we criticize something happening with Trump we're stopping the 5,000 DHS or five trillion DHS. And no that's really the lobbyists of the bad guys wanting to try to train us as the people actually got him in just sit out and shut up and we're not doing that but I've gotten a lot of calls from The White House in amongst others has given me intel very high level people saying look

11:16 you know, how can we help you? What do you want?" And I'm like what do i want. We know who gave Trump the advice to shut down the Epstein thing that's this Streisand effect of all deals. I want Trump to not blow his feet off. I'm trying to support him that's what I want and so shifting gears into that...I'm glad that three weeks has gone by as we get more time understand what's happening I've seen some of what you said and I agree with it overall, but big picture. I've got a very good approximation of what's happening but Trump coming out three weeks ago saying shut up about this and at first they just had a service. They said no its Trump. Oh your traitor its not Trump later yeah it is Trump

11:54 Why is he doing that? I've never seen any real evidence they would have used it against him. I know they obviously did control the files, they stuck some garbage in the stuff that Bondi discovered but just overall where's that going how damaging is it It's better that Trump's now being articulate about what's going on so I see some of that turning around What's your breakdown on the Epstein situation Well, you absolutely nailed it. I mean it's because you understand the template right? You go back to LBJ how did he cover up the Kennedy assassination in his complicity and the Kennedy assassination He convinced everybody that that the cover was true That Lee Harvey Oswald really was working for the Soviet Union And so you Justice Warren have got to cover this up because otherwise we're gonna be a nuclear war with the Soviet Union and then you thereby incriminate everybody so they later on figure out that's false They were part of a cover-up though they can't expose themselves in the process

12:46 That's what they did. By the way, as you pointed out, Trump when he brought this up in 2015 and 2016 he brought up the Epstein case. He was the one who originated it and popularized it to the world. He went on British TV and talked about its connection to the British royal family. And what did the Clintons do? They created fake lawsuits and fake stories that they planted with fake Jane Does pretending that Trump was implicated in those documents. So that was their coverup scheme from the get-go. The true Epstein files exonerate President Trump and incriminate his enemies, especially the deep state. Now may also incriminate a certain ally, Mossad in Israel and so forth. It may incriminate some buddies and pals of John Ratcliffe at the CIA but it doesn't implicate President Trump. It exonerates President Trump. So how do you get him to hide the documents that expose his enemies and make show his innocence? You convince him that he's in the documents, that they've resurgated the documents

13:40 that they've resurgated the file. As you pointed out, that never really made sense because if they had done that why didn't they re-leak it like they did resurgate itself during the election? You know as Owen Troyer was pointing out yesterday this just doesn't add up is Trump was even saying it out loud he could tell he realized it didn't add up so what it is somebody deceived the president into believing they had doctored the files to incriminate him and his wife when in fact the files exonerate the honest accurate files exonerate him and his wife And where does this come back to? Who likely told him that, probably the same person that told him Obama is immune from indictment when he's not immune from indictment. And it comes back to the same person who's doing the shenanigans on Pfizer doing the shenanigans on fluoride. It comes back over and over again to Pam Bondi and to some degree Swampy Suzy because she's the protector and patron of Swampy, of Pam Bondi. So I think you're absolutely right. He starting to figure out that he got deceived

14:34 that how do you get Trump to incriminate himself and exonerate his enemies? You falsely convince him that the files are resurgated, so they only implicate him. And by the way, Kyle Serafin is so smart I said three months ago he actually said four months ago in April He said, I know how this works They've still got The Deep Staters in there and they're going to basically get Patel and Bondi and Bongino to come in and say stop the investigation, move off of it telling him it's to cover up for the CIA and Assad which is partly true. And then the Democrats themselves are gonna blow it all up and do all of this and he was dead on that I mean that's what

15:16 And people go, you're just trying to exonerate Trump. They would have already used it we've already researched all this and then it's got the recycling the Jane does which I predicted now It's coming out the recycling that Melania was a hooker Which wasn't true working for Epstein never they're just and Trump learns that obviously whatever They left at the FBI in New York and whenever Marine Comey is a cover-up artist did They didn't salt it with some of that trump then blows up ham fistedly says oh This is just you full disclosure, just come back with full disclosure and that will satisfy his base. That's the best answer, full disclosure plus some indictments we need some heads to roll though I mean Bill Gates and Bill Clinton are the two most prominent people all over the Epstein files when they're honestly and fully and transparently disclosed. So what he shouldn't do is don't take debate with Ghislaine Maxwell, don't let Ghislaine Maxwell do something where she's able

16:31 sort of trick her way into escaping accountability with some false claims. I think she's the one that's behind the fake letter, the fake birthday card that clearly did not come from Trump. She was the one who organized that birthday party. She is the one who put that together. She may have even faked that card all the way back in the beginning- And that was my next question...I don't think it's wise when the Democrats threaten to subpoena her and have the Deputy Attorney General run meet with her and do all of that plus she's convicted What do you think about that decision? I think giving her qualified immunity for use and fruits immunity for the purposes of making sure that she had to disclose honest accurate information made sense because then if she lies, she can be further prosecuted for other things perjury false statements etc. Even if they even see it's a pardon for these other things he would that wouldn't be pardoned

17:24 So I didn't have a problem with that, but they got to be very careful about how they play with her. She is someone that learned from her father and the master. She was as much of an Epstein runner as Epstein was the runner for her. The entire Honey Trap operation... Oh, I totally agree! I think she's the boss. She brought the family business to him That's exactly right. I mean, and remember how she described herself on the island? She told the staffers, you're going to see a lot of young girls around there are the honeypot but remember everybody, I'm the queen bee that's who Glenn Maxwell is so they need it. I understand Trump sending Blanche down there because Blanche is sophisticated enough that presumably he can work this. He obviously didn't trust Bondi enough to handle it correctly

18:10 So I do have confidence in his skill set. I don't have confidence in his cover up attempts on the Epstein files earlier this year, but I do have confidence in his skillset to be able to manage someone like her if they do it correctly she will exonerate Trump if she's honest and she would incriminate a bunch of high profile Democrats, Democratic donors, Democratic aligned individuals and people connected to Mossad and the CIA so that that's where this always leads. It leads right back to the heart of MI6 Mossad and the CIA, the heart of the deep state in the United States. The same deep state responsible for the murder and assassination of a president, a presidential candidate, the attempted assassination on President Trump despite Bongino trying to cover that part up by claiming that guy acted alone nobody believes that either just like they don't believe Epstein killed himself in a cell designed for him not to be able to kill himself

18:59 I think you put that all in aggregate. The there is a your strategy has been the correct one all along and it'll just listen to his base and listen to the core audience of his base which is the Infowars audience then he will be able to bail himself out of these troubles rather than dig himself into it because right now this is the biggest self-sabotage scandal I can remember in the last half century of American politics A lot of people that think they're politically savvy don't understand complexities or have the background history to understand it. But, people either want to say Trump's guilty and he's covering up or you just shut up and don't question it but if you look at this, people go oh my god they're sending the DOJ to talk to her

19:45 Well, if the Democrats covered up all the real stuff in the files gave them loaded files. That's the checkmate is to go get her to give them whatever else they have because we know that Democrats are all over it from what we already know and that would be Trump going in the right direction to fully go to war with them and release all of the information Exactly, agree. I mean and knowing that you know what? I would recommend also because we can't really trust how Patel and Bongino and Blanche and definitely Bondi have handled this to date why not have this person who's already taken apart a doctor document already taken apart how the deep state corrupted a file in took its honest intel and try to make it dishonest Intel if he thinks the documents have been Russiagated well why not put Tulsi Gabbard in charge of the Epstein files

23:34 All right, Robert Barnes knows his stuff. We're blessed to have him I want to cover a whole bunch of big other issues now but finishing up on Epstein this is now coming out FBI has secret Epstein prison tape with no missing minute Now it's another missing three minutes in a total setup as Carl Sarven predicted After interviews with DOJ Epstein's partner in crime, Gisely Maxwell filed a Supreme Court appeal against sex trafficking conviction. She now says she fears for her life through her lawyer in prison. Where do you see this going Barnes? And what else should Trump do?

24:24 Well, hopefully he takes your advice and the advice of his entire base. I mean the other thing with this was wasn't this one of the dumbest cover-ups you've ever seen? That was like an unsigned memorandum released through Axios that says there's no client list or blackmailed, nothing to see here, killed himself don't worry about it. It was designed to sabotage Trump Absolutely that's what it was. Not only that, I've been trying to tell people the timing of the Russiagate disclosures isn't to distract from Epstein The disclosure of the Epstein memo was intended to distract from what they knew was coming on the Russiagate files That was a deep state coup and that is why we want to know who in the White House, it appears to be Pam Bondy misled the President into accelerating the timetable on this

25:06 Like even if you were going to do a cover up, there's 100 ways better to do it. Coverup than this. Not only this year, you'd want to just you would want to delay the disclose of that memo for awhile? What was the need for the rush they apparently The need was the rush was we gotta satisfy Israel. We did Israel to know that Mossad will never be implicated publicly in the when the files so you gotta promise him they'll be case closed no files ever disclosed as the behavior language panel put together That they all panicked when the reporters said one phrase is Epstein an asset of the intelligence community. Even Trump was swallowing, Rubio's eyes were blinking like a madman even Bondi was totally jittery so we know exactly what scares them and what motivated them to convince Trump to hide this they convinced Trump he was implicated in it that's how they got him on board but I have no doubt that Bondi and frankly Patel and Bongino are huge so differential Israel that they can't be objective

25:59 I mean, we have a state- Now let's just stop right there. What you said is so key that was only three days into the scandal over three weeks ago breaking and I'd already said looks like they made a deal with Israel They're heavily involved even more than the CIA It's all part of some deal to you know get Netanyahu to go for peace. I mean I could put that together And then the reporter asked about that and Trump flips out on them, and all of their body language goes completely insane. That's what I said at the time and that's what I've been told by people in the White House and others who was gonna stop... ...that they'd come to Trump and said look it's Mossad, its CIA, its National Security! And thats why he has gotten even madder than then the national security cover up

26:43 that they came to him with then was actually a setup bomb because everybody said, they brought out Russia gate. All this new evidence a week into the scandal two weeks ago because Trump was in trouble now they've been saying for months and months it was coming out at that time and they knew Gabbard and Ratcliffe cuz he's obviously involved. They knew it was all about to come out so they launched all of this ahead of that. So it's the other way around perfectly set here is part of that exchange you just mentioned This is over 2 weeks Jeffrey Epstein left some lingering mysteries. One of the biggest ones is whether he ever worked for an American or foreign intelligence agency, the former Labor Secretary who was Miami U.S. Attorney Alex Costa allegedly said that he did work for an intelligence agency so could you resolve whether or not he did and also can you say why there's a minute missing from the jailhouse tape on the night it was sent? Yeah sure if I could... Can I just interrupt one second?

27:41 Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? This guy's been talked about for years. You're asking, we have Texas, we have this, we have all of the things... And are people still talking about this guy, this creep? That is unbelievable! Do you want to waste the time? I mean, do you feel like answering? I don't mind answering. I can't believe you're asking a question on Epstein at a time like this where we're having some of the greatest success and also tragedy. And then her response is just absolutely pathetic. We won't play it again but... Oh, I didn't mean there was him raping kids. It's child porn and how dare you want the child porn released? And how dare you when we're talking about dead kids it was all those subjects grow for discussion You know they bring in real media. It's not just gonna be lab dog They're gonna ask real questions so you know that gun kicks as hard as it shoots continuing Barnes well exactly wasn't he looking across wasn't that BB net Yahoo sitting across from them at that point

28:39 I mean, I don't remember if that's when BB was still in the room or not. But it was interesting when he turns to Epstein and he's looking somebody, he's looking at somebody directly across from him and I thought that was Bibi the so I mean everybody knows that deep connections, deep ties. I mean Epstein was the ultimate as you've explained multiple times He's the ultimate deep state fix it man. He is the money launderer, the arms runner, the arms trafficker, the drug trafficker, the human trafficker, the honeypot establishment guy. I mean he was connected to Ponzi fraudsters. He was connected every major arms trafficker in the last 50 years at various juncture as was Glenn Maxwell, as was Robert Maxwell, as was the other connected party- Yeah Peter Thiel just told Rogan that

29:19 That the underage sex was just the tip of the iceberg and everybody's spinning it. I'm not here to defend Teal, like I'm on his apologies but it was a true statement that's what Epstein was like an air traffic controller of corruption evil. And when deal said he believes is being covered up because the CIA asked so well that's what I've been saying for months from my sources. So I will defend him saying I believe that statement is true but Joe who's got all knowledge on this was no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,I think what you'll says true Yeah, that's exactly right. It absolutely is right I mean your analysis is correct it's a the air traffic controller of the of the entire system and scheme.

29:57 Because when Robert Maxwell fell off a boat, after he tried to extort Israel into paying him back and covering up for his billion dollar fraud of pensioners in the UK in exchange for all the favors he had done for Israel over the many years. If you need any proof of that, he got a state funeral as if he was the highest designated official in the history of Israel even though he wasn't born there didn't live there was never citizen of Israel So she had to go there because Epstein was holding the money. Epstein had a lot of the laundered money that Maxwell had stolen, although I mean that was his modus operandi. That's partially how he gets Leslie Wexner implicated. You can find it. There are Ponzi fraud schemers that he helped facilitate their fraud for. He was also a government informant going back to the 90s

30:39 I mean, in other cases and a range of cases. Mueller identified him as an asset for intelligence and informant in various files back to that time period. And it was revelatory what Trump was saying the other day when he was saying look, it's all the same people implicated on Russiagator involved with Epstein exactly! It's a deep state coup continuous deep state corruption of the American liberty and American constitutional republic. They're both connected and interrelated at the heart They are at the dark, deep soul of this Deep State sickness that has been paralyzing American constitutional liberty for more than a half a century. So that we should combine the two integrate the to have somebody like Tulsi Gabbard assigned to handle the file look at the file review the file vet the file clean up the file and do the same thing she is doing with the Russiagate case

31:26 week after week, day after day. Another little piece here another little piece there another piece over here and other pieces over there. And we can finally take apart the deep state that has been so dangerous that it is literally a lethal threat. I totally agree. Gabbard must take over the files explain publicly in a press conference It's all the same crew which is is and then just start releasing it and destroying them That what I said yesterday you have to release the Epstein stuff and you have to get prosecutions now let shift gears into We've already covered this since back at the time we first broke crossfire came for even in the name because I was part of it being targeted. It's really 2013 when Obama knew Trump was going to run, but officially 2016 they kick it off how big is this? More documents are coming out can Obama be charged what's the word you're getting on with a strike force

32:16 Because I'm hearing that they've been told and then they're off the leash, and they have every intention of indictments. What are you hearing Robert Barnes? I think they could come up with a bifurcated approach so they can come up with Obama and Biden. I recommend going through the impeachment route. I'd write I think that constitutionally That's the proper protocol for a president or vice president anyway So impeach them! And also it's great for the midterms The go through an impeachment proceeding, disclose it publicly everything that went on in the House. Go to the impeach Barack Hussein Obama, impeach Joe Biden- You can't impeach somebody after the fact that means pull their presidential immunity remove their presidential immunity by defrocking them Exactly and in publicly exposing this for once and for all and if there be some consequence For all of this And so that's one parallel trap If Trump didn't get that done they would win a hundred seats in the house

33:09 It would be a massive way. What the public is begging for is cleaning up this corruption once and for all, and we need accountability in consequence. We remember back to the late 1970's were on the verge of some consequence from the MKUltra disclosures from the assassinations committee all those things by Frank Churches Select Committee on Intelligence And then all of a sudden it all got cleaned up in the early 80s with the Iran-Contra hostage deal that the Reagan administration secretly cut and they put the deep state back in charge. They have never faced consequences ever since, and they almost assassinated Reagan so Reagan got the message to back off and let Poppy Bush run the show on the intelligence side of the equation, that's what happened as he had done previously. Then at the same time brought in people like Barr, Mueller, all those guys go back to that time period. Comey to certain degree goes back to that time period

33:57 So the but on the other track, they can bring all the criminal indictments and they need by simply having that of the right people assigned to strike force have the right wing versions of honest versions of Andrew Weissman assigned to this. Bulldogs who understand criminal law know how to go after these people do not do the case in a district of corruption. Take the case down to the Southern District of Florida, whereas we explained at the time Alex I mean We talked about what that was attempted another cover-up The raid on President Trump's house was to grab the files so they could permanently destroy them knowing that Trump didn't have a copy You called with over a year you said total statute limitations and again around the jurisdictional thing of the DC

34:37 The raid opens that up and we now know what you said at the time, the raid was about getting documents Trump legally had that implicated Obama, Clapper, Brennan, Comey. It's why the documents are still there, right? I think they would have gone in and deleted every one of these and every copy of these that Tulsi Gabbard is exposing. But they couldn't because they thought Trump had extra copies. And when they went to open the safe remember this safe was empty. So Trump may have even been may have thought he had stuff he didn't even have necessarily but they thought He had it all and because they thought he had it all and couldn't find it couldn't grab it could hide it Couldn't bury if they weren't able to imprison them They were unable to keep him from getting reelected

35:12 the presidency, they left the files in there and prayed to God that we'd get exposed. Also they did a cover story a year into it 2017 where they all wrote memos to each other that Obama ordered them to do it and so they didn't want to destroy that because they wanna be under the shelter of his presidential immunity. And its why they gotta go at Obama because all their defenses are gonna be they were acting direct with instructions from the President United States That's why Susan Rice is writing them, remember that inauguration email to herself? Here's who met. Well Joe Biden is all over this too I haven't heard people mention him a lot he's absolutely all over it He's the one that unmasked General Flynn He was in that key meeting- And all of the espionage and spying against his supporters didn't just continue It accelerated up until 2020

36:05 Correct, and you know what the next stage is? And credit to Tulsi Gabbard and Robert Kennedy. They're already on top of it. The next stage is to take this through to the election in 2020 and to take this through to COVID because the two are direct. The only reason why Trump didn't win 2020 was because of the COVID outbreak. Without the COVID outbreak, Trump was coasting to a re-election So you need to connect the two, which all goes back to Russiagate. Which even incorporates the Epstein files and which indirectly references the MLK RFK and JFK files because about longstanding deep state corruption of our constitutional republic to sabotage us from within as has long been warned by both our founders in contemporary observers. Absolutely because you know all the pieces better than I even remember all the names a little time like you don't know how you do it.

36:52 brain like a steel trap. I got attacked by a lot of my, even my supporters when Trump came out and said they've had control the file and I said yeah that's true because they did it be well oh yeah they have the file the deep set up the upcoming his daughter literally running in comey in control of it just like J Edgar Hoover. I just call balls and strikes and now it all makes sense And now I've talked to folks who talk to Trump Roger spent seven days crisis management with him saying you gotta get this head on Trump, I'm not gonna get into the conversation but three weeks ago people called him and he said, I don't give a crap. It's all bull. I got stuff to focus on it really didn't even care until he saw how big it got so that's not what a guilty person is doing. He would have had Bondi and people not rating New York if you knew was a setup. He didn't even know he'd even care because again Even Epstein told Wolf that Santa Trump wrote that book recorded That Oh No! It was Trump 20 years ago set the feds on me

37:47 Oh, exactly. I mean Trump is not going out broadcasting about this introducing it into the court of public opinion repeatedly if he thought he did if he knew you had done anything wrong also that's not Trump's modus operandi. You know the Trump might be a skirt chaser trumpet. It's like Edwin Edwards once said about David Duke they said isn't at David Duke womanizer like you Edwards and goes No, I'm a womanizer dukes a little girlizer The Epstein people are little girlizers Donald Trump has never been that, never been part of that. Never wanted to be part of that. You see that all the way across the board. So somebody misled him. My guess is the origin of this came from Marian Comey because this got personally disclosed by what Tim Dillon told you in the interview when Tim Dillon said that JD Vance had Pandy had told him one version and Bonnie told the president another version and then she told the public another version and Kash Patel even told a fourth version of what's on the videotapes

38:34 It means they were letting Maureen Comey and Pam Bondi dictate what was in the tapes. They never reviewed the tapes! They haven't watched the tapes, they haven't looked at the tapes That's why... There is no reason He had cameras all over all these houses and properties Queen... You know Ghislaine Maxwell isn't calling it a honeypot And her the queen bee because there is no honey pot And she wasn't the queen bee And that only works if you have video files video footage and it's too valuable to completely destroy. So somebody has got him somewhere, but I suspect Maureen Cohen is probably why President Trump demanded her firing as he started to piece this together. I think they told Trump hey just put it the bed and now go away not realizing they were going to constantly use it to sabotage them. They're gonna constantly use it to incriminate him. It was a trap

39:16 that somebody in the White House who baited him into. But now the way to get out of it is more disclosure, more prosecutions, more indictments, more accountability, more transparency and more involvement of Tulsi Gabbard in the whole process and incorporate it into what happened with COVID. You dig into COVID, It was a deliberate lab leak who by the way you were the first one that say I'm being surprised when I was asking you about it and you bam, bam, bam nailed it explained exactly how it happened. Your on the way ahead of the curve on that But what does that mean? It implicates Bill Gates. It implicates Anthony Fauci, it implicates the US government in a staged coup of the 2020 election by unleashing a pandemic and lockdowns and craziness on the world! So this is one of the biggest scandals in the history of man. And so connect it to Russiagate, connected to the Epstein files because they are all connected just like they're connected to JFK, RFK and MLK assassination files

40:06 bring it together to bring the deep state to bear because I mean, I agree with Steve Bannon. We either deep six the deep state or the deep set state deep six is us and for President Trump either he drains the swamp or the swamp will drain him. Yeah well i'm not like Ellen DeGeneres or uh you know all these other Rosie O'Donnell leaving America because it's fascist and I hate America. I love America We already talked about this years ago, I mean this is so dire if it looks like they don't deep six the Deep State I've got to start in like three years making the preparations to leave the country because they will put me in prison for something they've already tried. And I want to be effective still fighting for my country, but an exile that's how intense this is. That's how much I need Trump to succeed and he's not going to succeed folks with all the Q stuff we just sit back and say it's 85 trillion D chess and just let Pam Bondi and the Ballard group

40:59 you know, Susie Wilds do all this to keep fluoride in the water because that's trillion D chess. God chess. You know it Oh God, this coming out of scandal will make Trump release the files well in a sick way. It'll make the Democrats release them they don't have them now. They've destroyed whatever they want but there is enough there on the Democrats, on Bill Gates, all of them that they can be absolutely annihilated. So we need more of what we've been seeing from Trump spotlighting everybody that we know is on that island he needs to do more than that and lean into it Not only that, I mean it's all connected to the foreign policy ultimately. How do we get ourselves out of Israel creating more wars all across the Middle East? And as you know, I've been a longstanding protector of Israel against Palestine and then Palestinian cause but this is getting absurd! The bombing series... Well let me go there, you now have two main human rights groups in Israel saying it's genocide

41:55 Netanyahu and all his behavior going on, even Michael Savage totally pro-Israel says this is destroying Israel in the world's view. What is Netanyahu doing? What happened is because of the indictments the center and the center left refused to join his coalition so he had to form a coalition with the hard right these are people who believe in a greater Israel these are people who don't think Palestinians or human beings These are the people who think that they should put themselves first even at the expense of US interests They're willing to, what they want is Americans haven't put this together yet. They want to basically starve out the Gazans to such a degree that they are forced to emigrate elsewhere and folks it's not just Europe they're planning on sending them 2 million Palestinians to the United States of America imagine how that's going to work from both an immigration perspective in a security risk perspective

42:46 So what it is, he had to align with the hard right because that's the only thing keeping him in office. The moment he's out of office, he gets convicted and goes to prison so that- And folks there's a reason I don't want them killed or their children are innocent. There's a reason no Muslim country will take them from the studies I've seen on him and the sociology. Whatever you call the Palestinians and some actually were from there since 47, but a lot of them aren't really... It's more like Let's just say this, any country they're in they try to overthrow. They are big trouble and the fact that Netanyahu would try to send them to us is such a crime

43:24 Oh, absolutely and incredibly dangerous to us at multiple levels. I mean you've talked about you know us going into Somalia What did that do it led to a bunch of Somali migrants coming the United States now someone will become mayor Minneapolis one of them is a congresswoman and Look at the problems that has constantly caused they are slavers still Okay, they don't see themselves as black They have been selling black slaves for 1500 years slavery still legal there Ilan You know Omar, her family. I mean these people are bad news folks Completely, they're not going to blend in. Let's put it that way and so I mean you know you write about Palestinians go to Jordan, Jordan kicks them out. The Palestinians go to Lebanon, Lebanon kicks them out. Palestinians go to Syria, Syria kicks them out. So Palestinians go to part of Egypt, Egypt kicks him out. Egypt has a harsher migration policy on the Palestinians as those lefties found out than anybody. We don't need to be dealing with this but we're not the solution to Israel's problem. When Lebanese try to protest saying bring them to Egypt, they beat the hell out of

44:24 Exactly. So the proper protocols that they could never win a military war of that kind with a group like Hamas anyway, so you do some selective takeouts protect yourself, security is as you pointed out October 7th looks worse and worse. It looks more and more like 9-11 in the wrong way to a large degree because all of us the hard right has long wanted for you to have some rallying cry to purge the Palestinian pop they're already talking about annexing Gaza as we speak. They're already talking about annexing the West Bank as we speak They're already talking about annexing parts of southern Syria functionally as we speak. They're trying to create a greater Israel that will create constant chaos and conflict in the Middle East, and that will drag us in again and again- And with Kim Jong Un power... Barnes could you do it little bit more time or did you have to go? Oh no I'm good! Let's do another 20 minutes the next hour because I want to get into the economy, the trade deals any chinks in Trumps armor your report card on him overall at any other big issues

45:22 You have been, you know, you're saying Candace Owens isn't going to do too well with her lawsuit. So let's hit that first. I mean, I think she has a right to free speech and you've been my lawyer overall. You've been dead on in a lot of things so I'm a fan of Candice but I do want to get your take on that. How did people before we go break find your show? Sure they all the content they can find at beaverbarneslaw.locals.com All right and on X at Barnes underscore law Yes indeed. Are we gonna break Please remember folks, you can search the news look it up. They got a receiver they're still trying to shut us down I'm battling them in federal and state court. I'm suing them we've already brought out damning information We're gonna bring out insanely damning information I mean in my opinion but the filing stated serious crimes And you already saw fake auctions and just department funding it and covertly getting caught we got stuff that is

46:19 Way worse, okay? We're waiting to release and there's a lot of stuff. Okay fine but it takes money Okay to fight these people and they try to sanction my lawyers all the rest of it, but we are winning But it's like a football game. We're in the fourth quarter right now Okay And we've got like three points on the board ahead of them You know, we got a field goal with three points ahead here I need your support plus what a good salesman dude What's what's up? What's the smartest salesmen sell a good product sell the best product

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52:49 Mocks Candace Owens over dumbest lies. I mean, I like Candice, I don't think you dislike her but the McCrons versus Candace Owens lawsuit marks new phase in battle against conspiracy theories maybe get that clip or it's only about a minute long where she says hey i'm ready i'm ready I want your blood tested I you know i'm gonna get ya uh i'm not a fan of Macron in any way but also you know we respect you a lot oh where do you see this going? I mean, she's put herself in a very difficult position because of the breadth of the statements. The range of the statements why in the world is she still incorporated in Delaware for the love of good Lord? See, I mean Elon just said tell everybody years ago get out of Delaware he figured that out the hard way. Why is she still in Delaware? She's gonna be in front of a judicial pool that is the most partisan prejudicial jury judicial pool in the country statewide and she's going to be in front of a jury poll that's more liberal than Austin Texas

53:40 I mean, this is not a good combination for her. And the breadth of the statements and the range of the statements... My advice to her was there's ways to phrase these things, ways to state these things that you don't absolutely commit to say somebody's brother not existing. You know what I mean? Unless you've got really good proof. You don't commit to somebody being somebody's parent You know, I mean she went so far as basically to suggest according to the complaint. She may be able to come out and say that a lot of things in the complaint are not things she's actually said or misrepresenting what he said if that's the case. She's got a much more robust defense if what she is, if the complainant accurate about what she said then I think she's in big trouble my bigger concern is there this is dominions lawyers

54:23 They're handling this case. These people are, they put in there, they basically they're suggesting they want to sue Joe Rogan. They want to sue Theo Vaughn. They want to sue Tim Dillon. They wanna sue Andrew Stein. They wanna sue everybody that even broadcast her at any level and repeated it and that's what they're setting this up for. They're setting us up for like the minion cases a cascading set of cases where they go after the most vulnerable target early and then use that precedent to take everybody else out. So my advice to everybody out there has been clarify that you're not vouching for it, that they're not vouching for it, this is Candace's opinion, that they can't state whether Candice's opinion is accurate or true as any factual matter

55:03 Because it's clearly they're trying to use her to set her up for other people. I think she thought she was protected because French defamation law is really weird, you can only really sue civilly if it's put into a press publication otherwise you have to go criminal when you go criminal You have an insanity defense, you can say I believe this in good faith even though no reasonable person would've that's a complete defense in France the criminal defamation law kind of like our good faith defenses to tax lawyer here in the United States on on criminal charges. So I think she thought that applies, it doesn't apply in the United States. She's smart but people like her have been through to understand. I was defaulted despite having more discovery than anybody ever saw and then it was a show trial so the rules don't apply on these Democrat courts people don't understand that

55:48 Exactly, I mean... I never peed on graves. I never sat in people's houses They admitted it and I never did anything! I never said anything they said I said as is in my appeals but that doesn't matter They say it the media a judge finds you guilty they put a trial on damages literal show trial I don't think she knows what she has gotten into That's exactly right. When I was going through the complaint, she walked into a trap and she walked into a bad trap and my advice to her is find a way out of that trap. Don't keep digging don't do like what Trump did with the Epstein files and keep digging initially so I think Candace means well. I think she has good intentions. I think she's trying to expose what she thinks are bad faith actors

56:26 I think there's times where, gee, I don't agree with her on certain opinions she has. But this was just a mistake and she walked into a trap and now the Macrons these globalist corrupt elites that are helping support war around the world are gonna get away with it because she went a little too far. Well we'll be right back. I wanna play a clip from her then shift to big news Russia. All right, I've been trying to get Robert Barnes great constitutional lawyer, great historian really smart guy for few weeks So I just happened to get him on when this Candace Owens thing broke that he's in speaking about. And when a bunch of stuff broke today, and the ongoing Democrat Party Paul Weiss law firm will keep far now another top Democrat law firm implicated in all the garbage we already had Paul Weiss come out admit they engaged in lawfare against Trump paid 40 million restitution promising they'd stop lawfare

57:22 And I know Barnes knows about Wilkie Farr and all of them. So before he leaves, I'll give an update get his take on it but big developments here and it's just crazy that just broke but I keep getting congratulated by everybody. Tucker Carlson Steve Bannon in the white house and everybody Oh congratulations you're beating the deep state. I'm like no we're still there still trying to shut us down But we've survived so much has been so discrediting That people are like, well how have they been caught doing all this with Bloomberg and fake auctions and all this? And trying to lock the building no court order and all that is insane. Yeah they're still trying so man I tell you something else but but Barnes finishing up here's here's Candace Owens recently responding this lawsuit got followed a few days ago by the macrons where she goes through and says she believes that it's really a man i mean

58:20 I'm saying Michelle Obama looks like a man. I've seen some things that look weird bounce around the pants, maybe Michelle Obama just puts a rubber snake in her pants. These are public figures. I've seen stuff that makes Macron's wife you could say it'd be certainly weird how they met and all that but you can't say you're 100% sure but I could say like David Eich, that the King of England is a reptoid now whether King Charles is really a 5 million year old reptile from the Draco star system Or whether he's really just the final heir of Count Dracula, which is actually true. Can't make this up! I mean it just gets weirder and weirder If i say King Charles is really a cookie monster...I should be allowed to do that So here's a clip of her and put some bookends on this where you think this going? Here it is You were born a man and will die a man That's the point I'm making

59:17 So give us a sample, I'll send my doctors to take your blood. We'll figure it out real quick however you want to go about this." Hey how about just giving us some pictures again of you growing up? You know raising your children that would be fine for whatever reason to phone by the way like i said we'll get to the bottom of it right that is what discovery is for gonna ask a lot of questions you're probably hoping oh you know which this will go away and at least we'll say we sued her we'll say he went after her she'll probably file for this to get dismissed I'd like to make it a discovery. And, I think that we owe that to the world." Anyways you guys... We are revolting against this! We're revolting against the perverts that run the worlds and i want to be very clear here- I count you among them. I think you're sick, I think you're disgusting and I am fully prepared to take on this battle on behalf of the entire world okay? That's what I'm going to say. On behalf of the entire world, I will see you in court

1:00:16 Well, looks like Mrs. Macron's gonna be slapping him around a little bit tonight They're probably not too happy Definite weirdos Looks like they're on trains You know Not her but him and his buddies using cocaine or whatever Definitely warmongering whack jobs trying to cause nuclear war But I don't think Candace has experienced weaponized Democrat courts yet. She thinks they're gonna give her anything she wants, she thinks she's gonna get a fair trial? She thinks she's even gonna get a trial? She thinks she's going to even...I bet it'll be the same HBO producers! I bet they've already got the whole thing scripted out Barnes That's exactly right. All of it screams setup, I was shocked that she was still incorporated in Delaware like if she'd let me see relocated physically to Nashville redomicile everything at least do it now Candace for the love of God please get out of Delaware get out of Delaware get out of any other conservative out there Do not stay in these liberal states or liberal jurisdictions they are nightmares because Candice sued when she was libeled by

1:01:16 by Facebook and those same corrupt Delaware courts wouldn't allow her to get to Discovery. So I mean, she should know how corrupt those courts are! These are the same court that keep saying Elon can't get paid what his own shareholders want him to get paid! I mean these are just people who try to set aside his X deal So these are, the Delaware courts are notoriously corrupt. Now they're overtly partisan so you can't get near them and to trust or rely that you're gonna get anything vaguely resembling fairness or law from liberal democratic courts like Joe Biden's home state is a fantasy land I'm afraid. So the media is fair to say as I just read the article and I learned not believe everything I read in mainstream news You weren't attacking her or mocking her As they said, you were warning her

1:02:03 That's exactly right. That's correct, said that these kind of statements if they're able to prove her true in the Delaware court she's got zero chance that's why she's got literally zero chance of success in Delaware courts if they are able to prove that she said the things that they claim she said given the scope and scale of those things If she'd limited it just to believing that Bridget Macron was a man, that's one thing. But if saying Bridget Macron is actually his father and they're part of this sort of whole connected like blood related to the Rothschild family... It's all these other things that are like okay you know of

1:02:54 I mean there was six different cameras in the courtroom, literally cameramen walking around. And they had both trials two months apart all coordinated four or five years of suits all coordinated perfectly right before the midterms two years ago three years ago and then i noticed it was all scripted the same things i couldn't say couldn't say i was innocent same scripts it was literally scripted oh completely you were there Yeah, they attacked me for pointing it out. I mean again never seen anything like in my life so the I mean it was just a show trial and literally the judge shows up on the red carpet The judge shows up on the red carpet Southwest when that HBO came out a year ago or a year and a half ago She read carpets It is like part of the panel as a movie star

1:03:38 Exactly. You can tell she was doing her makeup during the trial and everything, preparing making sure she looked good make sure the angle was right. If Candace is right that what they're saying she said she never said then she's got then she's exactly in your position because I remember when first looked at I said, here's what they're going to do Alex. The problem is almost everything they're claiming that they're blaming you for You did not say or originate that was false! You didn't make money off of it, you lost money off raising any questions about it So all their core allegations... And then he said I was already guilty so then could say all these things I never did and couldn't even rebut

1:04:14 When they put up a fake financial expert for a day, she said you're not allowed to speak. He goes he's got hundreds of millions! He made it off them all of that lies didn't have hundreds of millions made no I'm just sitting there hearing this Exactly. When I saw that, I realized here's what's going to happen They're going to have to request discovery of things that don't exist and then claim that you hid them because they've made up the case against you You predicted it early in the case when you were on it And you said listen if the fix is in we give them everything They say it's not legal...you have Sandy Hook marketing plans I don't have any marketing plan for products other than a sheet. I tell you what's in it, nothing to do with the news I cover." They go no no no remember oh who secretly funds you? Who writes your scripts there's no script here Barnes not even talked before he came on everybody knows that about talk radio stock right on TV but they're like nope we're defaulting you and then and then they admitted that Hillary Clinton was involved in case publicly And so my lawyer asked about that So they default me finally for asking if Hillary Clinton was involved

1:05:14 Yeah, exactly. So I mean if Candace is in much bigger trouble ironically if in fact she didn't say the things that they're saying in the lawsuit because then they're going to go the Alex Jones route and until those cases it's why it's so critical that people continue to support InfoWars The whole goal was to knock you off the air and why? So that you couldn't be exposing what's really happening on the Epstein files as we speak So you can expose the deeper connections with Russiagate and Epstein files to begin with. So that you couldn't be the one to expose, don't go into further war so that you could expose, don't get entrapped in BB Netanyahu's latest Israeli idea for conflict right? All these key warnings to the Trump administration to protect Trump from himself

1:05:56 To protect Trump from backpacking. And by the way, they said that eight years ago seven years ago six years ago They said the main job of the chief of staff is keeping Alex away from trump because they know we're able to break through You are able to do it too and give them a full spectrum of what's happening to outmaneuver Them and they've admitted that in the news that jones keeps blocking our narratives Exactly. You know that if Trump had had direct access to you and been paying attention directly to you, and then your information coming through the Epstein file debacle never would have happened? Never would happen not a chance it would happen so that's why they have to do it And they want to do that broad scale wholesale So that his audience can never get through is commute the Amer ordinary Americans message can never get through any makes mistakes like

1:06:36 You know, getting potentially entrapped in a war in Iran or right now escalating in Ukraine and you know talking about shorter limits and ways that would sink our own economy. I mean that's what we do. Let's talk about... let's shift gears into Russia now. He goes from a 50-day deal last week to 10 to 12 days or else open discussions of long range missiles the bomb Moscow What do you make of this? Incredibly dangerous, incredibly dangerous. So the I mean, he keeps putting pressure on the wrong people right? His leverage in Israel in the Israel-Iran or Israel Gaza is on Bibi it's not on Hamas, its not on Iran and then the leverage in Ukraine Russia is not on Putin

1:07:16 Putin has said for a year, here's my conditions. That the Russian territories have to be recognized as Russian territories and Ukraine has to acknowledge they'll never be part of NATO and they have to demilitarize that's it not not a whole lot it's just where Russia's military already is where the Russian population has been for almost all of Ukraine's history gets recognized as Russian and Ukraine doesn't present an imminent militaristic threat to Russia. That's it, that's really not a whole lot! Instead we refuse to recognize that and keep debating he capitulate. And Applebaum is talking about what the real strategy is that Kellogg has been falsely convincing the president of since January which as Applebaum says we have to convince Trump can convince Putin that he can't win the war well you're never going to convince Putin of that because Putin knows he's gonna win the war He's got a much bigger military machine much bigger personnel much bigger depth

1:08:02 And the people in those regions that they're in are Russian and want Russia there. Let's be clear, Putin is outproducing NATO US arms supplies because that's really a war between us and Russia right now folks. It has been admitted 3 to 1 they're winning Exactly, and they're making gains and gains and gains on the battlefield every single day. And so the pressure needed to be on Zelensky in Ukraine to take the deal that Putin is offering because if it doesn't get taken then Putin has almost no choice from a security perspective but to keep going. Why does Trump just overthrow Zelensky and just cut off NATO? And then strong arm Putin? Because once Zelenski's gone and Trump promises a US takeover of his own

1:08:48 It's either us or the EU folks and NATO, they're gonna keep starting wars we don't. And Russia has actually offered that, at least will give you Ukraine and they'll even pull out a lot of areas if they have an actual deal. I think it's because General Kellogg...and by all this go back to, it's interesting The America First Policy Institute is not America first legal, America First Policy Institute You look at all the people that are screwing up for Trump They're all connected to the America First Policy Institute including Secretary of Agriculture Brooke Rawlins who's still keeps floating the various amnesty ideas and sanctuary policy ideas, and still hasn't done meaningful work on behalf of small farmers yet. The America First Policy Institute, the key people that were corruptly trying to impact Secretary Kennedy staff, America First Policy Institute, Kash Patel, America First Policy Institute

1:09:31 Yeah, you know these guys because they're Rick Perry's boys. They're the big oil boys that used to be the Texas Policy Institute there in Texas who are always trying to advocate for big oil type positions corporate positions which basically is a shadow of the Bush neocon group It's exactly this. Guess where Kellogg came from? The American First Policy Institute His daughter is over there making money on all of this in Ukraine This is, he keeps telling Trump Oh all you gotta do is put a little more pressure on Putin and then he'll fold Everybody will love you Lindsey Graham will love you the Magazine will love you And then Putin only intensifies the bombardment Exactly, I mean because Putin is like look. I've already made a decision even Russian people have already made the decision if Putin was out The Russians would be more aggressive Medvedev has made that crystal clear He was out there making fun of Lindsey Graham yesterday saying hey Gramps stay in your lane We're gonna do what we're gonna Do these are the Russians they would rather eat dirt and then forfeit? They work out with bears for crying out loud. I mean just Google Russians workout with bears Yeah, this is a black bear

1:10:31 helping them do the workout. These are not, they're East Tennessee but extended these are not people that you're going to get to forfeit now know matter how many European bureaucrats demand that they do so no matter how many neocons wish that they do so what we shouldn't do is sanction ourselves because that's what this sanctions proposal is It's 100% secondary sanctions that would screw us. It would send oil prices doubling, tripling, quadrupling. Russia has built up its economy so it is now independent. It doesn't really depend on anybody anymore and sooner or later some way or another they'll get... That's why Putin literally said no actually we don't want you to get rid of your sanctions as a matter of stronger. That'd be lesson for us its true

1:11:08 Exactly, the same reason why Trump's tariff policy has long-term possible success is the same reason the sanctions policy has benefited Russia. It's made them be more industrially proficient, made them be more self sufficient, made them more proud and more I mean they're volunteering to join these regime, these military units The casualty ratio, they keep lying to him about the casualty ratio. The casualty ratio is 10-1 against the Ukrainians! This is why every time they do a body exchange Ukraine can only come up with 75 dead bodies when the Russians can come up with 3500 dead Ukrainians because of the way that they've done the battle of attrition is to maximize Ukrainian losses and minimize their own. That's right that's why the Russian have moved very slowly which Putin said it

1:11:50 He goes, we will move in slow create a security perimeter and then burn your weapons and burn your people. That's exactly right I mean that's all deep battle policy remember we discussed this at the very beginning of the conflict said Russia is going to use D they originated deep battle policy i mean the whole idea of it how to minimize you're in an age of mechanized warfare everything's about a little attrition and supply chains you'd be able to remember all of Russian society's base now when they have their victory day around 20 7 million dead Russians, 24 million Germans. 90 plus percent of World War II was the Russians and Germans killing each other so I mean they're ready to die and we're not as tough as we were back in the 40's or they're not as tough as they were then but there still tougher on average than we are And on average their ready to die So when you had a 30 year population die The same thing with Napoleon This is like this is not go pick on Iraq or Afghanistan which is still no cakewalk This is insane

1:12:45 Completely, and not only that. There was a great Trump what he recognized in 2015 is it made sense to get along with Putin Why? Because we need to align with Russia against China right now We're forcing Russia into a love affair with China That is not good for the US long term that undermines our geopolitical interest long-term So what do you think Trump's gonna do because he's signaling escalation of the Russian acting like he's been convinced that Putin's a problem Which you could say put his problem He's not going away so Yeah, exactly. I pray to God we've got to talk him off the ledge like remember he went into Iran and was thinking about regime change in Iran and because his base was screaming. I mean J.D. Vance Vice President Vance had talked to friends of mine during this stage and all over the base. Vance made clear the base got its message through to Vance through Vance to President Trump so that when he saw things going sideways on

1:13:35 on that Monday after the attacks, Trump made the right decision to get out and not further escalate. He's got to not further escalate now! Lindsey Graham should not be running our foreign policy. Loser Lindsey is not the guy to do so. Childless Lindsey Graham is not the guy to do so." So we elect Trump— You know if we go into full war as NATO does which they're wanting with 200,000 troops China's going to make its move in Taiwan and all over the South China Sea And we are at full world war Completely completely. I mean, it's just a disaster waiting to happen We need to end the Ukraine conflict get a detente with Russia that's what's in America's best interest That's what makes America first that is an America first policy A Brussels bureaucrat first policy is to get dragged into this corrupt cesspool that is you crazy? That's because your demographically financially isn't the worst position of any major power bloc on record and then their own

1:14:25 Defense and financial ministers have been saying for two years, a 30-year conventional war with Russia will save them. They believe Russia will collapse they will then get out of debt by cutting Russia up into five parts that is beyond delusional crazy megalomaniac talk by Mears Starmer and Macron who literally couldn't find their ass with both hands this has disaster in thermonuclear war written all over it Absolutely, and just the economic ramifications could be disastrous because if he did the secondary sanctions. And this is mostly 100% tariffs on on China, India, Brazil and other countries around the world that buy Russian oil. The net effect will be they'll find a way to get the Russian oil many of them depend on the Russian oil but either we get a whole different kind of trade war that isn't in our economic self-interest in places like India and other places or we get oil prices skyrocketing doubling tripling quadrupling what does that do? That causes our cost of living to go right back up then the Fed refuses to ever cut rates and starts raising rates again. Well that's why Trump finally really backed off

1:15:27 Intensifying the attacks because their parliament voted they were getting ready to do it. They were gonna block us straight over moose and And you do that you get $200 $150 barrel overnight Exactly. If you look at what's cost of living, why has Trump made it under control? It is because the energy costs oil and gas have been going down and down and down and that has been the number one input cost to that is really transferable tariffs are not that transferable but oil and energy always is. The only way to cut inflation this level is always energy slicing Exactly. And imagine the deep state and the globalists would love for him to do this because if he does, he sabotages himself He sinks himself Not only they continue to get their possible World War 3 that they're dreaming about but at the same time They figure even it doesn't work out on that front We get to sink Trump because he sinks his own economy Because the number one issue that got him elected was cost of living and in the cost of living will skyrocket and spike

1:16:22 And Europe's whole bet is that Russia will never go nuclear. Even in their own doctrine, if they're overrun they will and that's the issue even some of my listeners I had like Rabbi Shmueli on he goes you just care about paying more at the pump and i looked at him and said do you understand all the numbers from The Economist it's decided its not debatable If you even get $130 barrel oil for six months, that will drive up inflation and the consumer price index. And then if you put the numbers in that will absolutely then make interest rates go up and then that will kill the entire economic plan. It isn't about me not wanting to pay more for a damn gallon of gas it's about derailing the economy when the globalists already had it ready to totally sink we're trying to stop a global depression on The Great Reset you jackasses!

1:17:11 Exactly, and this is the number one. This is the easiest way Trump could sink himself is to get involved in secondary sanctions that could drive oil prices up all for a Ukrainian war that it's like Trump loves to be a winner Ukraine is a loser don't side with the loser He could be the winner by doing hey you know what talk to tell Zelensky take the deal It's right on the table simple why can't trump order I guess they double-cross him like bad pigs Why can't the United States remove Zelenski? And then announce elections. Yeah, all you gotta do is say hey Do you want to spend the rest of your life in a US prison for all of your fraud corruption and bribery? If you don't sign the deal end of story and then trump can go out to the world and say I saved Ukraine I saved Kiev i saved all i saved Odessa All these regions were gonna go down if I didn't step in no one else could get it done I got it done and then get detente with Russia

1:18:03 start separating them from China, start aligning our interest in a more America first way globally. And then he's a win-win situation for everyone else." That's what all the real strategists say like General Flynn but if you expand on that remember three or four months ago Trump goes oh my god Putin has intensified attacks I'm mad at him and we actually got him the info sir they've doubled drone attacks last month they did all this and Trump goes oh now i understand Putin is doing what he has to do after they launched an operation spider web Exactly, exactly. I mean the so the in Putin keeps giving him exit ramps. Putin still thinks Trump is a reasonable Person he thinks he gets misled by what? He calls the men in gray suits like going back to the very beginning of the show Russia gate Putin had no confidence He said it doesn't matter who gets elected in America when it comes to policy towards Russia The men and grey suit show up and they run everything So but he believed Trump was trying to break through that. They said great suits black ties. It goes. I wear a blue tie

1:21:23 And I stopped eating crap food, stop drinking. That's what I'm on right there baby! you know, all the other big top ones that have been caught in lawfare against Trump and paid 40 million in restitution. Wilkie Farr now joining the law firm with Kamala Harris's husband that was last week and we're still here and we don't make a big deal about it. We just keep fighting you support us but we're like capture the flag or capture the Roman standard they are obsessed with getting us off the air and they've said congressional hearings they set in think tanks they've said because Jones and his guest

1:22:15 have a giant audience and they're able to not just convince the public but policy makers who aren't that sophisticated, who are busy then hear another narrative and go find out what's going on. Like Trump didn't know that when he was trying to make a peace deal three months ago four months ago now that Ukraine and NATO doubled drone attacks and were blowing up Russian nuclear bombers it was I noticed it wasn't in our news I can tell right then, that means he's not getting briefed. That's how coordinated it is they made sure it wasn't in Fox seeing any of it. That's a coordinator and Trump didn't know so he just gets briefed hey David they launched biggest attacks yet and Russian news says we're doing it response to you And I go We gotta get into Trump until Roger Gidse explains it and from goes Oh, and it comes out and says no Putin's doing what he has to do Ukraine needs to stop. And then now there's saying oh, you'll give the same story So

1:23:15 That's just a little microcosm and they have all the influences about attack me. Don't tell Trump to stop saying shut down the Epstein case three weeks ago, it's 10 D chess and you notice the disaster now, now Trump is backed off that see they cannot stand what to media seems like complete common sense but most people are not immersed in this so Here's the update and Barnes worked some on the case early on. He said, you're going to get defaulted it's all rigged because he saw them saying you haven't given us this discovery that didn't exist. The judges said I don't believe it we gave him the record level stuff. He saw the twisting he just said just prepare for this and I said okay and then we saw what happened. It was even worse than he thought and then they sanctioned all the lawyers that would work with me. I mean just hellish so

1:24:06 Three years ago I go into bankruptcy because, just giving you a little back story for new viewers. Because they're on the news saying he has hundreds of millions of dollars hidden and made off them. They didn't have hundreds of millions, they didn't have five million. And when I went to bankruptcy I was actually negative at like three million in the bank but owed like five billion legal fees and He's got hundreds of millions and he, you know. So I said, I'm going into bankruptcy and I said finally it won't be the state courts we'll see what federal courts do there's no way they can be worse And will get audited will get examined and will get proctology exams and everything and they'll find out what i said true You notice the federal judge in a case now three years that told him last year when he fired them US trustee and then the CRO then he said you've had two years this is enough Three years but this was last June

1:24:54 And you never sued him, you never brought up anything. None of this stuff was true." They had the IRS audit me and we got a $4.3 million payment back. Barnes's law firm did that, handled that with us because we'd overpaid that. That of course was in bankruptcy so it went into the trustee and they spent it all on lawyer fees still suing me! So it's like, oh sell my little farm use it to sue me and my family. The New York Times last year had to admit turns out Jones never had any major assets and has bigger assets Yeah, okay. I got a four bedroom house and 100 something acres out in the middle of country go. I don't care. Okay? So I don't care about things. I care about fighting tyranny and i'm quite frankly even happier with less stuff down to mess with it so that's where this has been then they sued my parents the last three years they had you know A million dollars in savings and you know this and that

1:25:49 Now double mortgage to everything else. They think they settle with them, my lawyers warned with this new US trustee I said no they can still get you through the this they sued him again two months ago and their mission is destroy us and i have them and you've all seen the videos In the courthouse, on the steps. We don't want money we wanna silence him we wanna shut him down but then you see that lines he's hiding money his family is hiding money so for three years of four court ordered auditors that the estate paid for sending money coming in they spent trying to find dirt an IRS audit year long They came in a year and half ago saying this is rare Euro 4.3 million And so the judge sees all this then they have a fake auction

1:26:36 Last November say it's a public auction the day before say oh now. It's private just submit your bids take Bloomberg onion money that was pledged money of what I'd make in the future they keep acting like this billion plus dollar judgments real and I mean, I had nine million dollars the bank one time when I got a 9 million dollar Bitcoin donation And then I put it all back into the company was the exact amount Of shortfalls the next two years we do the accounting like he was God wouldn't know who gave it to us And they kept saying on the stand, you're gonna go to jail Matt. He said he was are you saying you didn't keep that money? Which I could have and i said no they couldn't believe it and then of course It was all like I said, I could have kept it when it was given to me So on and on and on they couldn't find anything because III mean I'm a straight shooter folks I have accountants in law firms do my stuff. I don't even balance my checkbook. I'm on air Tomorrow night will be up here till 11 o'clock at night debating Nick Foy test You think I'm you know That's not what I'd do so

1:27:38 So, we've been through this now they've relaunched the witch hunt and over two years ago I gave them my Ford Expedition. And because you're allowed to have one car and I gave them watches that family gave me and stuff. I didn't even hold those back out every warm or cared some of us give it in high school and I turned it all over and they never even went to The Watch Place or The Gun Shop to pick up the money The first house I ever owned 25 years ago, Rex was born there. He wasn't born in the house but that's where he first had it 22 years ago. I moved out of that but i kept it as a rent house like $100 000 house when I bought 300 000 now has a renter in it or kicking them out haven't been in the house in decades

1:28:29 Now it's like, ooh we found a house. Ooh we found watches. Ooh we found guns to pay off his billions in debt they've been sitting on it and there's other stuff about to come out that's even worse but this is the new stuff breaking today but I'll go to Barnes appreciate him hearing this back story but I'm briefing him right now because he just you know we haven't talked and this just broke so they have the fake auction they get in trouble the judge says it's illegal we bring forward the justice department funded all this all those other big stuffs about to come out what's even worse And they sued my parents and my wife a month ago, saying again hidden money even though they were given all the accounting. We already hired lawyers they already paid for lawyers They already gave them all the accounting and they just go more allegations using estate money which these lawyers have almost taken all of this state money that was to go with the families But the families have said because they run the US trustee come out in emails They tell him what to do we don't want money we want to destroy

1:29:25 While they whine and say he won't give us our money, even though that's all an appeal. And the Texas court says they're going to override it So now it's new headlines Oh new victories Oh Alex Jones watches truck rental property pitched for auction Okay, now listen to this right-wing conspiracy theorist Alex Jones rental property 16 of his watches some more like $10 swatches and his Ford truck may hit the auction block soon to help pay off debts to Sandy Hook family under a proposed form of trustee bankruptcy And they act like it pays it off. I have a non discharge ability

1:30:05 They, no matter what I pay them already owe him 400 million in interest. It's never enough but they always act like oh he needs to pay, he needs to pay! They turned down a 75 million dollar settlement which I didn't even have over 10 years. They said don't we want control your speech? In mediation if it weren't two years ago So again they turn down 70 plus million dollars But then they want, wait for it $20,000 of watches and a hundred thousand dollars in guns which they didn't even pick up the money from that. They're now going to the judge saying we want an auction for stuff that was already sold other than the Ford expedition listen to this

1:30:43 And it just goes on and on I go for hours. I need to let Barnes just get this, you know Get off the air with us but oh the 2017 look at the luxury Ford Expedition King Ranch has about 125 thousand miles on it and is estimated we're worth ten to fifteen thousand Jones 1,800 square foot single-family rental home in Austin's worth 444 thousand bought for like 80 something thousand hundred thousand The trustee last month sued Jones as his family members saying they should have hand over millions of dollars in cash and other assets that he's shielded from creditors. You read the suit it's all made up total lies Total recycled bull a lawyer for Jones didn't mean so just goes on

1:31:28 Now I'm gonna go to Barnes, but Alice Jones plans new auction to pay Sandy Hook families. I'm not planning a new auction! Chris Murray is acting like he's doing work after billing millions and millions of dollars harassing me and my family Here is the new trustee at the state court they've appointed to come try to shut us down, but the federal judge so far has blocked them and they go we want our money. The equipment here's not worth $500,000. They don't want a settlement to get real money but under court rules though you don't get to just silence somebody You only get money So they act like they want money in the filings while all over TV And heres an example last year that went to Barnes Chris Maddy, former federal prosecutor that runs all this out of Connecticut

1:32:10 He also represents the FBI just under investigation for J6 by Trump. Today, the Sandy Hook families we represent put an end to info wars. Alex Jones will no longer be able to hurt people at scale. Our families have shown the world what people of courage and integrity can achieve justice And he goes on with other posts. Now this is November 14th, the day after the fake auction that I said was fake and the judge said it was fake and we beat them took until December to do that so again here he is saying we got our goal silencing him not money and then they're back in the news because they coordinated with U.S trustees saying we're going to get his money

1:32:55 And they're running headlines about, oh we finally found where the watches were hidden in the luxurious 2017 Ford Expedition. So and here's what Chris Manning exhibits The Onion has won the bid for InfoWars They own it November 14th 2024 because CNN said so Now see this is what...so they're so discredited Barnes I appreciate you listening to that rant That that's where they're going with all of this and they think if they can finally shut this down, it gives some type of closure. No it doesn't! The Justice Department the new one is investigating I'll leave it at that because you were a little sloppy on this case. I was reached out to I wasn't even surprised so we've got more and more is going and then we not released other stuff yet wait till you hear because they think its open season people They think like when The Onion gets asked by Stephanopoulos

1:33:51 Well, the judge says you paid a lot less money and it was sealed in secret. He goes well, it's Alex Jones we're allowed to do that So they use me as the precedent demonized to end the constitution to set the precedent As Barnes warned earlier they want to with Candace Owens now so I'm gonna shut up. I apologize. I went so long I don't mean to abuse your time Barnes You've been you've seen this she watched it what do you make of this? Where do you see this going? Well, it is a continuation of weaponization of lawfare to suppress speech and press core constitutional rights in the country. And this case has always been about that. It's never really, to me, been about what happened at Sandy Hook. It has always been about how do we censor dissident speech? How do we suppress dissident speech? How do we weaponize the legal system to bankrupt anybody who raises questions that we don't want asked

1:34:43 that raises voices that we don't want listened to, that gets the American people's message across to people in positions of privilege and power. That they would like to repress and suppress. And that is what it has always been about! Now if the Texas courts ever do their job these these verdicts should be thrown out. If the Supreme Court of the United States were to do its job, the Connecticut verdict would be thrown out because everything done was a violation of the First Amendment and the Fifth Amendment to the US Constitution enforceable against the states through the 14th amendment to the U S constitution as well as analog provisions of the state constitutions as well in both Connecticut and Texas

1:35:21 And they've proven this throughout. I mean, the fact that they said they shut down InfoWars with that secret bogus sale and then had to be set aside because of how bogus it was is the ultimate illustration of this. What we were talking about at the time was to pay attention to this because they were going to use it as a roadmap to censor others just like they did by taking... They used this suit to take you off Instagram off of Facebook, off of YouTube. So all of it was meant to be a mass censorship campaign so that they could then engage in a mass libel campaign not to make sure you couldn't be heard but to make sure your audience couldn't be heard because they knew you're one of the most effective conduits and vassals

1:36:01 for populist opinion to get out to the broader opinion, they get out of the Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene's of the world. They get out to the Vice President Vance is in the world that get out to the president Trumps of the world that can help change global policy. They admit it's a catalyst its my guest its the crew not just me and they admit this vector keeps challenging them and look I was there few months ago at the Texas Court of Appeals all Democrat women and banks gets up says You know this, the judge after she finds me guilty has a show trial. Two weeks later says I find him guilty of elder abuse to get past caps and the Court of Appeals is before the Republicans Supreme Court that's guaranteed to shoot it down, it's guaranteed

1:36:45 Even the Democrats go, well how does a judge find somebody guilty two weeks after when a jury did him in front of it? And Bankstein looks at and goes it doesn't matter what you do. We have the Connecticut ruling. He giggles laughs and runs out like a witch giggling I swear to God even Bloomberg reported it. You've seen him in person It's bizarre but and then and then and the female judges were okay. What is going on here What's happening is a continuing attack on the First Amendment using your case to try to get away with it. I mean, even to the extent of trying to use bankruptcy to claim they could buy your identity literally by your identity and be able to- Oh yeah Chris Murray said six months ago he goes The 13th amendment applies everyone but Alex Jones is special

1:37:29 Exactly, I mean it's all these Alex Jones exceptions. Alex Jones exceptions to the colloquium requirement that is constitutionally imposed as a requirement of defamation. I mean literally people who are ordered to pay money to people you literally never talked about whose name you never even mentioned. People who had no connection to Sandy Hook other than investigating it they didn't have any family that died in Sandy Hook. That's the FBI agent that admits he started this suit and my crew member said his name and never appeared on my website but he gets $130 million imaginary dollars Exactly, it's just insanity. I mean they originally wanted a bigger verdict than the GDP of most countries in the world. They said we want 2.75 trillion

1:38:09 Exactly, it was absurdity. I mean even Elon is probably not gonna ever be worth that much money. So that's how nuts it was! At every level it was a disgrace what happened to the rule of law A disgrace what happened in damaging the right of freedom of press The right of freedom speech The right to petition the court for redress of grievances The right to due process of law All of it was eviscerated And its continuing to be undermined and one of the weak links In the Trump administration in my opinion today So much lawfare has taken place. What took place here was a systematic and systemic violation of your constitutionally protected civil rights, similar to what has happened in certain cases to Mike Lindell, similar to what's happened in certain instances to Tina Peters, as similar to what's happened to Kurt Benshuf in the state of Washington- By the way, Lindell is starting to win in the appeals court at The Worms Turning so they're definitely scared things are turning against him. You're crystal ball, what's your advice? Where do you see this going?

1:39:05 If the courts are ever honest, and I think that Texas...I mean we had two Supreme Court justices back at the very beginning of the case in Texas wanting to take the case. All you need is one more and then Texas verdict is done it's finished its gone it's thrown out And I think they're right- I think they're racing against time because once a Texas Supreme Court takes the case I think they will take the case- Then the US Supreme Court does but that's only a month now on that yeah Correct. And so then it's up to the US Supreme Court to do its job, I mean it was abandoning his job for the first five months of this year as President Trump started to do the right thing, started to restore credibility and confidence in the judicial branch of government and the Supreme Court needs to do this because it's like the Westboro Baptist case when they were starting to weaponize it in ways that were very dangerous for constitutional liberty, Supreme Court to its credit stepped in. They need to step in here too!

1:39:47 because this is one of the most egregious abuse. I mean, they abused your rights at every single level! You second-guess the lawyer and all of a sudden you can't bring an anti-SLAPP motion to dismiss? At every level it was a violation, another violation, another violation, another violation... It was a show trial on top of a show trial! I've explained to people why they needed a show trial was because HBO could not do the documentary without being sued unless your side of the story was not presented in court. Because as long as all they did is repeat what was presented in court, they're immune from suit under the fair reporting privilege but how did they prevent your side of the story from being told in court? By doing what they did by literally gagging you from presenting a defense on the merits even preventing you from saying that you don't own money that you didn't own and in Texas she would order

1:40:33 HBO and she was a director, and she would order YouTube to cut everything. And then she'd kick the jury out and say you're not allowed to say her innocent, not allowed to say your in bankruptcy I've given you this list, I will put you in jail! The judge was going to put me in jail in Connecticut the first day I testified, so I had to leave and didn't testify. That's exactly right it was a level we've only seen this is true show trials in Soviet Union, Cuba, communist countries what we saw here. And so it's a that by itself, aside from the underlying effort to suppress the freedom of speech and the freedom of press, the underlying effort to suppress The Infowars audience having its message heard by some of the most powerful people in the world which could lead to the end of wars which could lead to reduction of pandemics which could reduce... That message getting relayed saves lives. Russiagate led to Ukraine war leading to the deaths of hundreds of thousands if not millions of people. We are listening to you now and not just me but the whole show about World Leader. So let me ask you this

1:41:27 Their persecutions backfired on the street now. In the last eight years, I got yelled at you know still was a minority but i got yelled at some nothing but love now people apologizing saying they were wrong everybody everywhere thinks have one knows the cinfp i ran all this knows that i mean You go look at the post they do on Sandy Hook now, it's all about their show trials what they did. This is known now by the vast majority that's why during even the show trials they had to shut down comments on YouTube because at first there were 50-50 and they saw me being persecuted and it was like 99% for me by the end so they just killed comments That was three years ago or two half years ago this has blown up completely in their face where you see this going?

1:42:07 The only place it can go justly and correctly is for the courts, the US Supreme Court and the Texas Supreme Court to throw it out. And they say that never should have happened in the first place. If that doesn't happen, it creates a perilous precedent that endangers press and speech freedoms or all across the country like they're trying to do right as we speak in Canada, like they're trying to do as we speak in the UK. Like I like they are doing it as we speak in Europe so that was what they were trying to use those cases to superimpose a de facto speech code on the rest of us even without passing through law by creating this

1:42:44 crazy precedent that endangers our freedoms of press and speech and liberty here by disguising it as a Sandy Hook, Alex Jones case when it was really oppressed speech suppression case. And so we need those courts to step up parallel to it. We need the Civil Rights Division at the Department of Justice or the Trump administration is step up this is this is the prep the systematic insistent systemic deprivation of the constitutional liberties of millions of Americans that are impacted by them silencing you and silencing your voice, they're also silencing and censoring them. And so all of their constitutional rights are being violated by this unconstitutional conduct by rogue weaponized partisan judges in courts who conducted show trials that would be an embarrassment to the Soviet Union. Well what do you make a Wilkie Farr coming into the case and Paul Weiss running it while they admit to $40 million fine for lawfare promising to stop and still

1:43:36 They even did some of the billing now on the community service, they said the 40 million to Trump. I mean this is insane. Oh completely and somebody needs to wake up people in The White House that they should not be subsidizing supporting directly or indirectly the continued weaponization of the legal system against ordinary everyday Americans like Like the wrongful indictment of Roger Ver is an example of that. Why is that still ongoing? Like the appeal of the Flouride decision, why is that happening like to cover up a Pfizer and the Brooke Jackson appeal? Why is that happening? The same thing here they should not be allowing Paul Weiss to get away with

1:44:13 violating their agreement with the White House, violating their agreement with President Trump by continuing to use and leverage their resources to weaponize the legal system against the rights and interests of the American people. And Trump allies in direct contravention and violation of the agreement they signed there instead, they are in substantial breach of that agreement. There needs to be consequences and the consequences are probably going to start coming from the White House because if we don't get consequences from the White House will get more dangerous and perilous consequences down the road Exactly, just in closing one snapshot of this. I've been married to my second wife almost nine years We have a prenup where she got $15,000 a month. I'm so rich That's what she operated on to whatever on and she saves it's all protected under law marital stuff They already knew that didn't go after for three years then it's over a million dollars So they publish he hit a million with his wife It's open and shut not true but they get two bill now suing her and me

1:45:11 And they know, it's just so evil. It's so evil. Robert Barnes thank you for the time You're amazing everybody should follow you on X at barnes underscore law we really appreciate you Barnes Thank you powerful two hours Always glad to be here Alex Amazing Alright strap yourselves in a totally jam-packed hour number four straight ahead All the guests dozens of them that have taken it within 45 minutes from now are varying degrees from extreme energy and feeling really great to fog lifting, just over the top crying. It feels so good. Cleans out the cells, does incredible things. RFK juniors loves it. We've got the strongest Old Sprinkling Blue but he's going on Owen in about 30 minutes because my show just ended and I forgot to do this. Don't forget when he is on Owen to tell us what he felt And if he doesn't feel it we'll put that out! So start go ahead take a half dropper or something like that and then shut that down