Watch The Full AI / Elon Musk Debate With Alex Jones and David Icke

00:00 let's just look at some. The AI agenda and how this fits in you've got people your year. Bill Gates is a yes cloud Schwab's I'm what they're doing is going hard sell hard sell A. I. connecting AI to the human brain and human genetics that's what needs to happen but of course there's a vast number of what I call pushbackers in the United States, in Europe and the world in general that don't want that. They're not having that. And by the way Bill Gates came out three months ago and said we've got to stop the hard sell he actually said that? Yeah well so along comes Elon Musk and Elon Musk does the soft sell

00:55 He is saying oh i'm worried about a i always very terrible to be in the humanity and then continues to push the agenda but it's not too bad it can't be as bad because he wants doing any other switcher these letting people back on Twitter. And these are the things I'm saying that, you know we've got to keep questioning these- They did five years of total censorship and it failed so they said go to plan B and bring in a co-opter create a false dialectic of Elon on one end of freedom and the hard sellers on the other. You're saying now we're missing the whole paradigm over there because they put us into a small window?

01:39 What I'm saying is, look at the outcome. What is the outcome of the hard cell? What is the outcome of the soft cell? At the end of those roads is the same thing humans connected to artificial intelligence and what you're trying to do is pull The people that are resisting the hard cell You're trying to pull them in While other networks lie to you about what's happening now, InfoWars tells you the truth about what's happening next. Visit infowars.com forward slash show and share the link today. All right I've been wanting him on for months and we got him best-selling author

02:27 former top BBC broadcaster, former head of the Green Party but better known for the last 35 years since he got thunderstruck with a vision of the coming New World Order. I really respect him and always a great guy David Ike is here with us and i think he serves a great purpose you know being kind of counterbalance to Elon Musk and the things he's been doing but I'll be honest I see Elon moving if it was pointed towards the new world order five years ago I see moving rapidly in a 180 and so I'm positive for the good changes happening. And how it's helping accelerate the awakening, I'm not gonna turn the lights off and turn my back on Elon Musk but that said, I don't think it's fair when David comes up with this term of the mainstream alternative media or ma'am or minions of Elon Musk. But also now looking to gift horse in the mouth, I'm not censoring a damn thing I say. I'm more hardcore than I've ever been

03:24 And you got Joe Rogan coming out saying Alex Jones is right about everything. New world order with Aaron Rodgers, we gotta stop him! I mean...I know Joe for 25 years. He's not an operative he is waking up completely just like David Icke did 35 year ago And so that's where I'm at on this. And, I turned down the $10 million a year contracts and the book deals to be The New Rush Limbaugh, Roger Ailes Fox News shows because they were straight up you're going to work for us now? You're gonna do what we say no! But if somebody says here your banned off this and now you can counter everybody has been attacking you Then I mean, I'm gonna use it. Okay now that doesn't mean I'm gonna put my knee pads on and you know give Elon Musk a blowjob So I'm gonna let you run with this and I don't really want to have a debate I called it a bait because that makes it more interesting but a thought-provoking discussion But I will say David I admire you

04:17 And while you're criticizing me and I get your daughter died, I'm so sorry for that. What a beautiful creature but she's still alive we all know that she's transcended and we'll all interface with her completely soon But the beautiful stuff you've done...I retweeted it and i'm sending emails and I get it went in your spam That happens to me too as part of the censorship It's one of the biggest areas is those spam blockers And then I'm trying to get you on saying, hey, I don't think this while I've been called this minion thing. It's a little hurtful and not mad at shoes. I respect you as a friend. I love you but and I know that's mutual. You know, I'm real but I have not been seduced by the dark side. I'm not dancing to the fiddle of Elon Musk go ahead sir right? Well first of all, I'm not saying that people shouldn't use Twitter X or station could use it.

05:06 vehicle at the moment for as long as it lasts to get information out. And M. in man doesn't stand for minion it stands for mainstream and there has become a main stream alternative media which is dominated the airwaves if you like I know if we could just start before we get into mosque one of the things that I've observed and that When I started out, there was no alternative media. Just one or two people and I watched the alternative media emerge and although it was still seeing left and right to a certain extent, there were a lot of streetwise people who were realizing that left and right is a puppet show

06:05 And that the real decisions that are working through left and right, are being made by a deeper levels than the left-right political level. What I call The Global Cult. One of the expressions- Creating a dialectic where they play the two sides off against which you pioneered exposing? Yeah but one of the expressions of The Global Cult level down is what people call The Deep State So when you look at a situation, maybe we can get into elements of the Putin interview in regard to this later. You see at the left and right level where left there are liberals were against the liberals but you go a step deeper into the rabbit hole, into the web, so that the cult level and what appears to be the situation here can be very different here

07:07 And what I've noticed, particularly since COVID is that this what I call mainstream of the alternative media that gets all the numbers basically has regressed back into this left right paradigm. So if you look at the Putin interview And there was a lot that I agreed with. I've been pointing out for years and years and years that NATO was poking him in the chest to get into invade Ukraine, but if you look at it from this level, you've got a Putin interview with Tucker Carlson and the response is not the liberals don't want it. Look at the liberals say it's great in it, but go deeper and look at the bigger agenda

08:00 And that is the dismantling of Western society and the dismantling of Western power in the world. That's why they've put a moron in the White House for the last four bloody years or whatever it is, three years. And that's why they've opened the southern border. That's why they've opened the borders to Europe because they are dismantling Western culture And what is happening is the power in the world, Is moving eastward. It's moving to China and it's moving to their alliance with Russia and the East in general and Iran's part of that as well on the bricks. And the globalists have to know their policies are doing that just to be fair then let's interject here I'm not the apologist for Elon Musk here

08:55 But what I'm saying is, he's come out massively against the open borders. Says to destroy Western culture as well. He sounds like David Icke and Alex Jones. Yeah yeah but it's easy to words are easier telling you what you want to hear me. I'll get more into Musk as we go along the questions that not being asked that should be but anyway at what I'm saying is that you've got this movement eastward in terms of power quite demonstrably That's where The Bricks thing is all about And so over a period of time, because you're coming from this cult level not left and right the cult level that works through left and right. So over this period this cult has been orchestrating the transfer of global production massively out of America American corporations in American jobs and Europe to into China and the East

09:49 to give them power over the supply chain in so many areas, even basic things. And Taiwan is this real global center for things like superconductors and what have you. And if China takes that- Well yeah mainly the chips for AI are almost all made there Yeah So if China gets that and that's the plan in the end then they completely dominate global society in so many ways. And so if you look at the Putin interview, and you look at it not from left right or the liberals don't like it, you look at the cult level, it suits the cult that the pushbackers in America and Europe and the West in general see Putin as some kind of hero because what was he doing

10:50 In the interview with Tucker Carlson, he was pushing China. You shouldn't not stop negotiating with China. Oh, China's foreign policy is not aggressive? You tell the people of Africa and South America that it's not aggressive! So it suits that cult level for Putin to be a hero. I'm not saying you didn't say some right things about About Ukraine. I'm saying by the way David, I totally agree with you and that was the big area Was him saying America's been surpassed China is the way to go Xi Jinping's not expansionary But but we know that the globalist set up communist China put them in power in 49 Transferred all this stuff to them now nine years ago They claim there was a split and then this is all going on take us to the end of your extrapolation as our spectra view So what so what she got?

11:44 As I've said so many times, China is the blueprint for the world. What's happening in China in terms of control and suppression and the digital concentration- It's the model! It's the model and that was set up to be the model. So what I'm saying is, you know if you look at it left and right then you can see it a certain way in most people have but if you look at it from this cult big picture level then what you have is the pushbackers of the West kind of seeing Putin as some kinda hero when he's absolutely embed with the Chinese that the push back is there is a danger

12:28 So, what people need to- And Putin and Putin and we're having a discussion here. Usually I have you on, you just run because I love hearing you but I want to add some things We have Putin praising Elon Musk saying he's an amazing wonderful person and Elon won't talk about China. I was waiting for you to bring that up That's the one big thing I see Elon is up to there You can talk about Neuralink too but it's the China thing Yeah, well we can get into Musk as we go along. The point I'm making here is that the power is moving east and the more that Sure, but my point is David and you say it wasn't minion. I know ma'am means You know mainstream alternative media But there were little comments and don't have the tweets in front of me the X things was like little groveling Yeah, let me finish. I'm saying you're here exposing Hey, well, I'm talking about Elon being with China and Putin too So I'm doing this every day just like you are so when you say that that oh, I'm

13:27 I'm changing, because you put my name on there. When you're saying...I'm trying to be straight up with you when you're saying I'm changing what I'm saying. I don't think you're tuning in cause I'm saying the same stuff you were saying buddy and I agree with you. Alex it's not about you mate and it's not about me It's about what the hell is happening in the world? That's the point I'm making now if we move Elon Musk, the thing that I've been observing is that so many things that he would have been questioned about. Let's personalize this. I'm talking about the mainstream alternative media in general before he took over Twitter turned it into X but the same things are not being questioned in the same way.

14:19 The foundation of human control, where we're going is connecting the human brain to artificial intelligence. Not least via the cloud, the electromagnetic cloud 5G 6G 7G to come which is being generated by the towers but fundamentally if you want it global its being generated by low orbit satellites Now, without this cloud this agenda cannot happen. This is the cloud that Ray Kurzweil at Google talks about where he said that the human brain is going to be connected to the cloud artificial intelligence and then he says artificial intelligence will do more and more of human thinking until human thinking as we know it is basically negligible so this cloud is fundamental

15:18 And SpaceX, Elon Musk's of SpaceX. is leading the way in putting up low orbit satellites to beam this stuff at the earth. And so, the question is if you are against this new world order there's this human control system and hive mind why are you facilitating it? I'm bragging about it in posts on Twitter X that your putting these low orbit satellites out there And, you know, if Elon Musk is such a rebel, such a threat to the system. How come that

15:59 SpaceX gets all these contracts, the massive amounts of money from people like NASA and the Pentagon. Only a few months ago they were awarded a contract by the Pentagon to take over and create something called Starshield which is the military government communication system version of Starlink Now these things should be questioned. When Tucker Carlson interviews Elon Musk, when Joe Rogan interviews Elon Musk they should be asking how do you square this? The connection to the cloud is meant to be via chipping and here we have Neuralink from someone who says AI could be the end of humanity

16:55 and yet turns out more and more AI stuff, the Neuralink has just had the first human trial. Now I think it's a bit of a kind of diversion because the real connection to the cloud is through nanotechnology not least that which was in the-and is in the fake vaccine but it's still going down the same road of chipping... Okay so David you're great You're a great guy that does a great job lecturing and I agree with everything you're saying, but let me just interject as you bring this up. I'm just making my point mate! Well, you get about 80% of the time so all i'm saying is... And I'm not trying to be mean to you but actually- I don't care mate! It's okay, we are friends aren't we? I like you, you like me

17:53 Yeah, just go ahead with what you say. No but I'm gonna ask you do you think iIm an agent of the new world order? The point is as I've said many times you don't have to be a knowing agent of the cult. But if you have, if you have a certain mentality and your focus for instance on left right politics and that's the they're the people that get the promotion and their numbers then you don't have to be part of it You just have to be No I agree And I'm the guy who coined the term Left Right Paradigm What I am trying to say here is

18:33 If I saw the left waking up and taking on the globalist, I would support that. It's not a leftist thing it's a populist awakening and i see the major beachhead worldwide of populism being called right wing so that just identifies that but but I totally get what you're saying But here here's what I want to agree with you on When he came out and said, we're going to put it in shopping malls and everybody's gonna get brain chips five years ago. I said look they've already got this in government laboratories Microsoft is doing at IBM He's popularizing and I don't like this Then he backed off that which I thought was a terrible idea you have brain chips go to school but if somebody is paralyzed or somebody who's blind then I think the technology is great The problem is what Trojan horses will they put in? That says...I just wanted to add that so I'm not an apologist for Elon Musk I've just been looking at all the angles of it Go ahead

19:21 Yeah, well as I was saying is a company Neuralink is pushing the way at least popularizing the concept of a brain chip connecting to artificial intelligence. And if you connect to artificial intelligence, artificial intelligence becomes your mind and then you've got another agenda. These are all WEF agendas by the way Which is autonomous vehicles, where the computer will decide where you can and cannot go. Not your personal choice! And so you have Tesla... So what I'm saying is, if you look at the companies and the things that are done with these front-end apps

20:09 And these need to be questioned. And since he took over Twitter X, in very large areas they're ceasing to be questioned. I'll give you an example- No, I think that's fair and I want you to make your point but then after you're done because I don't wanna forget this let's just say you're completely right. That's why we have you here cause we're not censoring and I respect you and love really liked you a lot David even though they are little perturbed with me Let's say he is a terrible guy. What is their plan with him then? And why are they doing this, why are they having him act like he's on our side that shows me we're really winning big time if they're having to send him in and try to co-op things but just go ahead right well yeah I'll come to that in a second and I want to but I just want to make this point there's a Dutch actually I'm not picking up picking on her it's just a good example This is something that is across the board

21:01 There's a Dutch activist called Eva Vlandingebroek, and she did a video maybe just over a year ago. And it was excellent! It was her speaking and she said Elon Musk is not your friend he is pushing the world towards transhumanism And she was right, round of applause. But the same Eva today is like a lovesick teenager in relation to Elon Musk. Oh yeah, Elon this, Elon that. Elon drops a tweet supporting one of hers. Oh thank you, Elon! This is not where we should be going. We shouldn't be eulogizing anyone. We should be dispassionately calmly looking at everything

21:51 let's just look at some. The AI agenda and how this fits in you've got people your your- bill Gates is a yes cloud Schwab's I'm what they're doing is going hard sell hard sell A. I. connecting AI to the human brain and human genetics that's what needs to happen but of course there's a vast number of what I call pushbackers in the United States, in Europe and the world in general that don't want that. They're not having that. And by the way Bill Gates came out three months ago and said we've got to stop the hard sell he actually said that Yeah well so along comes Elon Musk and Elon Musk does the soft sell

22:46 He is saying oh i'm worried about a i always have terrible community humanity and then continues to push the agenda but it's not too bad it can't be as bad because he wants doing any other switcher these letting people. back on Twitter. And these are the things I'm saying that we've got to keep questioning these- Not what you're saying, they did five years of total censorship and it failed so they said go to plan B and bring in a co opter create a false dialectic of Elon on one end of freedom and the hard sellers on the other. You're saying now we're missing the whole paradigm over there because they put us into a small window?

23:30 What I'm saying is, look at the outcome. What is the outcome of the hard sell? What is the outcome of this soft sell? At the end of those roads is the same thing humans connected to artificial intelligence. And what you're trying to do is pull the people that are resisting the hard sell, you're trying to pull them in with the soft sells. All right stay there David, you're making your points but... I agree with most of what you're saying, but you've made statements and things. So I'm not bad for interjecting and bringing things up and telling you I was saying the same thing I do. Good good. I knew the same thing I do every day. You're on. I love it. And that's what we're doing. So I'm not ma'am. I'm not part of ma'am let's just get that straight all right? We got David icon with us will be right back. We'll talk about this more its fascinating

25:59 In like 2000 and I mean, you've been coming on my show. The first time the interview was like 1997 or something but I remember you in the early 2000 saying part of my download is your downloads have proven really accurate so I respect you but then I think you can't look at what other people are doing with a wide net and say oh they've been co-opted no it's just people being positive about it breaching the wall uh whoever blew it You're like I see a global awakening starting in 2016, they try to suppress it and then by 2025 we're going to decide where we're going. If we make the right decision I'm paraphrasing it, if not they'll still get beaten. That's what you were saying then...

26:42 And I don't think Trump's perfect or anybody is perfect. But my point is you nailed that and, and I go to the grocery store and five years ago we get screamed at out shake 3040 hands but I'll be screamed at two three times it's been a year and a half up and scream that twice. And everywhere I go to pump gas or walk the dog or go anywhere all I see positive It doesn't mean I'm perfect does but I mean I know I'm real And I just see a huge awakening happening. And that goes to your point, well they're gonna need to co-opt it so how would they strike back? It'd be something like Musk. Yeah but the thing is though Alex you're kind of missing my point

27:20 I'm not saying there's not a global awakening. When I started out in 1990, you couldn't fill a phone booth with- David, I'm not missing what you said. I said there was a global awakening and you're saying Musk is trying to coopt it? That's just what I just said! Okay well...I misunderstood you then but the thing is that um.. I'm not saying there's not a global awakening There is But if you know If you are this cult you want to take it into a cold. That's what I said, are you saying that's what they see? Not making it personal and let's just have a discussion about about what's going on so the question then is What happened when Elon Musk purchased Twitter okay because that was the change that was the change that's when So many people

28:16 in the alternative media started eulogizing him instead of questioning him and exposing him as they would have done if he hadn't bought Twitter. So, he's bought Twitter and he puts out the Twitter files and he shows that Twitter's operation who could post then what could be posted was basically completely controlled by The Deep State And if you said to people, was Twitter controlled by the deep state before Elon Musk? They'd say yeah. Oh the Twitter files they showed it. Yeah okay so the deep state was in a position that was exactly what it wanted then It was controlling the narrative who could post and who couldn't just like Facebook and YouTube and all these people So my question is why did they sell it to Musk then

29:10 Who is supposed to be this free speech absolutist? Why would they do that? And then you ask, okay. So what's happened as a result and what's happened as a result is exactly what I'm talking about and challenging which is people have stopped questioning all the ways that this man is serving the agenda of the cult and the World Economic Forum, etc. They've stopped doing it in a way they would have done had he not bought and run Twitter! The guy's still... demanding a carbon tax. He wants a guaranteed income, all these are World Economic Forum policies he's still doing it in terms of the carbon tax going way back he spoke at these Paris climate

30:03 You're right, I've seen you repost stuff from a few years ago and I'm not defending him but he's not been promoting it now. But he has a few years ago, you're right He needs to answer for that So give us your 35 thousand foot view here What do you think is happening? Why were they forced if you are right to bring him in and where do you think this is going And how we respond Well, where it's going in part in relation to Twitter X is described by Linda Iaccarino the CEO. By the way, can't interrupt you start over you're right? I'm wrong. I didn't know this he just a few days ago called for carbon tax that's the video you put out was old You're right He did it there It is right there David Ike That's right Put it back on screen Start over David Yeah so Linda Iaccarino

30:53 who's got very major World Economic Forum connections, starts talking about freedom of speech but not freedom of reach. What is that? Shadow banning! She talks about the fact that if it's lawful but awful – it's lawful Who decides if it's awful? Oh, well we do. If it's lawful but awful then you're gonna really struggle to see it and find it now this is not a free speech platform now what this means is through your algorithms

31:32 You can emphasize people you want to be seen and you wanna be promoted, and you want people to follow them and think that's where it's at. And then those that are not then you start shadow banning them. There are many many people who were on Twitter decent people who were putting stuff out Josh Sigerson being one And who was clearly shadow banned by the numbers that they get. So this is the start of a slippery slope, but the point is it's not Elon Musk or Twitter or whatever. It's how that

32:13 has stopped much of the alternative media that would have been calling him out for these services to the cult, services to the WEF agenda but are not doing it now. And the other thing that's happening in the mainstream alternative media is that people are coming in since COVID And are now being promoted as the people we supposed to listen to, the people that get massive audiences when they are given interviews with Tucker Carlson. People like Brett Weinstein and Brett Weinstein's interviewed on Tucker Carlson as if he is some kind of expert an activist on COVID. This is a man who bought every aspect of COVID virtually

33:04 There's a video of him during the fake pandemic. describing how he wore a scarf around his neck so he could pull it up over his face every time he answered the door. And now we're being told that this guy is supposed to be the COVID activist that gets the massive numbers on Tucker Carlson! What about all of people who were calling it out in 2020, Tucker? Well I was and you were but David let me just stop you there and actually wrote some notes on this and forgot at the house but its one my points Brett Weinstein, when he went on Tucker admitted he was wrong and said that it's all a lie. There is a global government takeover or being invaded and the borders are open in the new world order is real And there's a global government we just I don't know if you watch the full interview about Tucker wants to interview me So my point is I know Tucker for real Tucker is really woken up now

33:58 and is a great guy. I mean, he's not the devil musk has this background. I get your points there but just when you just sit there with a bra, we have to be don't we have to be ready to have people that were wrong wake up and join us? What's the problem with Brett Weinstein yet? Yes, yes, we do but But where are the people that caught it out of the time? Where's their promotion, the ones who could see it at the start because of the research they'd done before. That didn't buy it like Brett Weinstein because they've done the research- I'll say this, let me just say this. We're having a debate. Just a second. You're picking up that I'm saying that Tucker Carlson is a bad person. I'm not saying that!

34:41 It's what your mentality is, how much you know about the big picture. Who you choose to interview or not interview? Who you choose to promote and not promote that's your choice- So you're trying to point this out to get people think deeper. Of course I am! That's the whole point The thing is we're getting caught again on the left, right kind of puppet show vaudeville show and not going to that step beyond it which is where both sides are being manipulated. And seeing what- I agree so let me ask you this let me ask some questions here David. I know we can talk for 10 hours everybody loves ya but lemme ask some questions here because you teed this up we gotta have some of these tell us cuz i respect you

35:34 big visionaries of our age, if not the top two or three. Where would must take us if we fall for this? If you're right where do they want to take us versus what do you think we should do Well, where they want to take us both the hard cell and the soft cell is to a connection between the human brain at the human body and artificial intelligence. See that the hard cell says this is way we must go. We should go look all the fantastic things will be gods says Ray Kurzweil And Elon Musk says, well I'm worried but you know there's no stopping it. So if we're not going to get left behind by artificial intelligence we've got to have an artificial intelligence connection so that we don't be left behind by artificial intelligence and at the end of the day what happens is

36:22 Humans are connected to artificial intelligence. And that is something that must not happen because the moment it does, its over. So let's talk good news I agree. I'm going to shut up for five minutes. Hold on David, this a discussion and debate. As your eye tells you to think! Therefore we must resist that at all times and investigating and highlighting and calling out Elon Musk when he's trying to get us to go down that road, just as we're calling out Schwab and Gates for in another way telling us to go down that road.

37:06 Because I love it when you come on the show and always give me the floor, and i'll give you 80% of time. But this is more of a debate discussion here so just please let me ask these questions You're saying this is good cop bad cop with Elon Musk as the good cop And Bill Gaines and Klaus Schwab As the bad cops If that's right, you're talking about solutions What do we do to then counter this? Well we absolutely do not buy having a connection to artificial intelligence in any way, shape or form. That's the bottom line because it's over once we do. Artificial intelligence will be doing your thinking for you. It will be doing your emotional responses for you. That's the whole idea! I've been writing for decades about the plan to create a hive mind which can be centrally controlled and so how did they do that?

38:00 Well, they put chips inside you actually nanochips in so like I said earlier and so many ways this neural link thing is a diversion. And you could get connected to the electromagnetic technologically generated cloud which these people are creating with their low orbit satellites Elon Musk and SpaceX being that at the forefront of it And if that happens, and I say that self-replicating technology to connect people to the cloud was in the fake vaccines. Those kinds of, of course there were many saline I'm sure as well but those self replicating systems that have been shown in the blood

38:46 of people who've had the fake vaccine. That's what's supposed to connect us to the cloud and or every single SpaceX satellite that goes up there and all the other companies doing it, but they're Every new 5G tower and 6G, 7G tower to come is building this cloud to which we are supposed to be connected. This is the bottom line. This is what has to be stopped. This is what we have to refuse to cooperate with but if you get kind of focused on the left, right kind of Biden Trump stuff. I'm not saying people shouldn't look at that. Of course they should but it's the big picture that's being obscured by that focus of attention. All right David i've got a million questions and I'm not trying to be mean to you just in

39:46 Place debate you said I'm gonna stop here. He said don't make it personal I'm not gonna be an asshole and read these things all I'm telling you is is that I am not a minion of the system. I will use any avenue i can and I see a big bandwagon waking up with the new world order, I cannot be excited! I do smell the double cross and im going to say this when they first put me on X and then after that I watched that when I did certain things like China suddenly we weren't reaching 10 million people or 5 million people per post We've been dialed back and we're seeing that now, the conservatives all come in. And now I even talked to some of the biggest accounts they're seeing it too so...I think you are going on the right direction here Let's talk about who you from your research think Elon Musk is

40:32 And I know you say they want to connect us to AI. I agree, we know that's the plan but i'm saying who do you think he is? Why was he chosen and where do you think this is going and so many questions the election Russia The wars how are they gonna what new crisis Is the globalist system gonna use a new virus? I mean just kind of give us We're 10 minutes to break nine minutes to break up trying to give me the floor Give us your prognosis or forecast Yeah, well yeah and I will but just let me say this in response to what you've just said. You can use X to get information out knowing what it is.

41:12 without describing Elon Musk as the biggest maverick in the last 500 years, mate. He ain't the biggest maverick in the last 500 minutes and if you ask me about who he is, he's a front man, he's a salesman. You know I had to bloody laugh when he said on The Joe Rogan one of The Joe Rogan interviews That he spent 80% of his time designing and engineering. At the same time that he runs all these companies apparently and tweets on Twitter, X all the time. I mean it's ridiculous is a front man other people in the background are running the show but he's a very good salesman. He's selling the electric car autonomous car thingies. He's selling the microchip. He's saying oh look you know we're

42:11 We've got more and more Starlink connections and satellites, isn't it great? Oh yeah Elon. Without people realizing actually the prison is being built all around them so he's a front man and what we need to do is take everything on its merits without falling for the hype and that means that we will question these people, whether they run Twitter X or not. We question them. We look at what they do not what they say and therefore we don't fall for the scam. So where I'm going with this is that if you are flying down a freeway

43:00 And you've got the outcome at the end, which is this stuff becomes so well known that action is taken to bring it down. Then you want to take people off the freeway? You want to take them down the slip road and ideally you want to put him in a cul-de-sac and this is what I'm talking about when I'm saying that focus on left right politics. Is a cul-de-sac not that it doesn't have to be looked at but if that's what all we're looking at that there the answers then we gonna sit there while the cloud and AI and all the rest of it. And the digital currencies Putin is bringing planning to bring in a digital currency put into all this stuff like lockdowns during

43:53 I mean, are we really so naive that we think that Russia is different? There's a global cult. It works through America and Canada and Europe and China but not Russia. It's ridiculous. And so we've got to get out of this idea of just looking at left, right and go to the next level. Well let me tell you that level that's controlling and manipulating a playing like the string section, the left-right paradigm or the left-right perception. Let me throw this in real quick then continue

44:36 I just learned about this the last four or five days. A lot of really prominent anti-globalist people, and i'm told i'm about to be invited are being are being invited to the global government summit The one Elon went you know was on yesterday last year and said we don't want global government They're now inviting a bunch of Anti-globalists to their events what's that about? Well, they're trying to co-opt the alternative media. This is all part of the soft sell. Sure and I think that goes with what you're saying yeah And we have to hold the line! You know, the alternative media is something that questions everything

45:20 And it doesn't eulogize anybody and it doesn't treat anyone as a God, whether they're Musk or Putin or Trump or anyone. It dispassionately looks at events and looks at evidence and concludes from that dispassionately what's going on once you start believing in somebody then your ability to be dispassionate is massively diluted. The alternative media must not get pulled into that. I totally agree, like you have ICONIC, we have Band.Video and Infowars.com We should use places like X and Rumble and other places to energize our independent platforms but everybody shouldn't just only put their eggs in one basket. We need to decentralise Well the thing is if everything goes on to x

46:12 everything is focused on X, then it's pulled in terms of freedom of speech. It already is for some people then it's over and this is the other thing you know about TwitterX and Elon Musk he changed the name to x and fused into something so twitter disappeared into something called Xcore But the parent company of X Corp that actually owns TwitterX is called X Holdings Corporation. And some TwitterX employees who are running a court case trying to get some compensation for being fired, they demanded last summer that the shareholders of X Holdings Corporation, the parent company of Twitter, the ultimate owners be revealed

47:09 And they revealed the list, except that every single name including Elon Musk's. I believe we've got an idea he is one of them was redacted and then they asked X asked the judge to have a situation which she agreed to whereby the lawyers be told what the list was of the. The employees X but it's not made public and that they cannot take it any further on what did- come out with this list of redactions is that there's ninety five of them who are they why don't we know come on a long as I've got let's see you the ninety five shareholders are of X. holdings corporation so

50:18 All right, well David's raised some really important thoughts. We should always investigate everything and look at every angle and I tend to lean what direction he is going but also won't look a gift horse in the mouth. I'm gonna use X, I'm gonna ride the horse till it dies or till we win or till I am kicked off of it but David we got a short segment here because some stations join us you've agreed to do some x questions from people on x spaces coming up uh David though we got four minutes to break what else is on your radar screen? Well, I'm writing a book at the moment. It's deep, deep, deep in the rabbit hole book which is what ultimately controls the cult that controls humanity and of course

51:00 We've talked about this before, that force is not actually human and doesn't actually operate in this reality we call human. So that's what I'm writing at the moment and it's very deep stuff and amazing stuff because what starting to happen is that some of things a lot of things that I've been writing about over decades in relation all this got so much abuse ridicule for, a lot of people in science now who are coming from that direction are starting to say it makes sense. And they're kind of explaining it from their point of view of how it can work like this is a virtual reality simulation that we're experiencing just across the water I live on an island just off the south coast of England

51:55 And just before Christmas, there was a guy, physicist from Portsmouth University in all the papers in Britain talking about the fact that he believed that We do live in a simulation. There's lots of scientists now who are starting to see that it makes sense of what otherwise is an unexplainable world, and I've been writing and saying that since not long after the turn of the millennium. So there's a lot of things coming together of the real big picture variety that needs to be understood by people so we can see where this is really coming from and not just focus only on the symptoms but see where the cause is. So I'm a bit kind of bewildered because I'm answering a question and then someone's saying to me, keep going David! Is Alex disappearing? What's going on?

52:53 No, David. I actually jumped up because they have to have my phone to connect to X because we're about to take... All right! Okay. Bye. I was literally just handing him my phone and we're about to take the calls. I got an earpiece in so I just walked over there to hand him a phone he stopped right when I got up. See here? I'm listening to you see little receiver here So i'm not ignoring...I'm listening everywhere you said I'm accusing interrupting here but I'm trying to get you talk No, no. That's all right. I just when it goes quiet and someone says keep going what was going on anyway? Yeah So that's the sort of stuff I'm working on and have been working on for quite a long time Well very long time now And that's the fact that you know we can look at The manipulation at the level of politics and finance in The human world if you like the biggest manipulation of all

53:46 Is the manipulation of our sense of reality you know where we live our lives as if we're living in a solid world where everything's kind of apart from everything else. But that's only one level of this, and it's illusory. The way that we are constructing our reality is exactly the same as the principle of Wi-Fi and a computer. Absolutely! It's almost like we're being grown like lab rats to be interfaced back in 60 seconds finish

54:23 Well yeah, and I did find it kind of interesting that one or two people now are starting to say actually maybe there's a non-human force that's manipulating. Even Tucker! Let's talk about that non human force. Stay there 60 seconds we're on all these radio stations that's why we're still on air We'll be right back It was back in the mid 1990s that David said non human interdimensional creatures are sucking our souls and killing us and making us war with each other Now when you talk about it, it's mainline news. Tucker Carlson says he believes that people don't balk so there is a big awakening I want to go to some of these X-Spaces comments or questions quick ones for David Icke here

55:04 Amazing discussion last hour about Elon Musk, a lot of thought-provoking things. We appreciate David being here especially with all he's been going through lately as new books coming out He promises to come back soon we'll do a commercial free podcast and talk about the new book We'll plug it before he leaves as well but you got interrupted by that little break where we joined some stations get into this understanding Of that we only see a little bit of the light spectrum. We're basically blind Yeah, I mean this is the area that really does open up the true scale of human manipulation and puts into perspective the focus only on the politics and the world of the scene. One thing that should be taught to every child as soon as they're old enough to grasp it is

56:00 When you look through your eyes in the space you think you're looking at, You're not seeing everything in the space that you appear to be seeing. Your seeing a tiny band of frequency called visible light that is so tiny it's a bloody joke! If you take the projected size of the universe as perceived by mainstream science Then the electromagnetic spectrum which is basically our reality, is around 0.005% of what exists in the universe in terms of energy and all its forms. And visible light which is the only frequency band that we can actually see

56:46 Is a smear of the no point nought not 5% humans are basically blind and as i've explained in the books in great detail there's a reason for that we designed to be basically blind because then will not see what the hell is going on and what we part off. And so if you look at technology is it coming now I'm the AI and the computerization all this stuff What it's doing and not by accident either is mimicking the very reality that we're experiencing. The virtual reality that we are experiencing is being mimicked by this technology on what they're doing, and this is what this clouds all about is there laying another layer of illusion on top of their big illusion which is the simulation in- in general

57:43 And because we can see a fraction of what there is to see in the space that we're in, all infinity exists in the space that you're sitting now. But we can't see it because it's on a different wavelength, a different frequency than the one that we are tuned to and what this body computer – biological computer as well – locks us into And so if you look at the way that a computer decodes Wi-Fi, it's exactly the way that we're decoding this simulation. This simulation is not a constructs, not physical construct. It's a field of information just like Wi-Fi and so what happens is a computer although I'm looking around if there's Wi-Fi in this room where is it? We can't see it now because it's outside of the wavelength of sight human sight

58:38 But if you get a computer and you tune it to the internet, what comes on the screen is whatever part of the internet, the Wi-Fi field that you've chosen to go to and see. And what's your seeing? If you said to people tell me about the internet they'd say well it's pictures on the screen, its moving pictures, its graphics, its text and all that stuff yes it is but the internet in that form only exists on the screen Everywhere else it's a Wi-Fi field of information and electrical circuits. And so then you think, well where is what I'm looking at? That internet that I perceive as the internet, where is it? It's inside the computer! It's not here or there or there...it's inside the computer So this is mainstream science How do we create reality

59:38 What happens is the five senses are locking us in to this cosmic Wi-Fi field, shall we say. The simulation Wi-Fi field and the five senses of the ears are a wonderful example but they all work the same. They're picking up wavefield information, wave information just like sound waves with They then turn it into electrical information which they communicate to the brain. And there's certain areas of the brain that specialize in decoding that electrical information from the various senses and the brain then forms it into the reality that we think is outside of us but he's actually in here just as- the reality of the wifi is in the computer. I'm and so if you break this down

1:00:31 the big picture consequences, the very foundation of human control and the manipulation of human perception is at the very level that we perceive reality itself. We are living a reality that appears to be a certain kind of reality but it isn't. And if you're manipulating people's very sense of reality, the very sense of the world they're existing in which is nothing like what it seems to be as we experience it. Then you go down the levels to the manipulation of politics and these are just symptoms of a big, big manipulation

1:01:25 Which is the manipulation of our reality itself. Let me just say this to finish the point, like I said we now have technology unfolding that is mimicking the very simulated reality that were experiencing and so we have headsets So you, and look at the internet now. There's more and more pictures of these people with headsets on walking down the street even driving bloody cars autonomous cars. And so that you go on the internet and you look at compilations of people with headsets on who are... The moment they put them on their sense of reality is completely taken over

1:02:19 They're jumping around, they're screaming. Yeah that shows they were already pre-programmed and have been prep for this. The point being yeah... I get nauseous! I can't wear them. Well i don't even go there but you they put their headsets on and they might be in an empty room there might be one or two people there whatever And suddenly the information coming through their headset has completely taken over their sense of reality They are possessed What they can do is take the headset off and go, phew! It was just a game. Now imagine if the headset was the biological computer

1:03:02 And the only way you can take that, the headset body computer off is when you die. This is why people who have these near death experiences millions of people now cumulatively describe that when they leave the body- They're totally free. They are experiencing a completely different reality with different levels of physics. Why? What's our physics, what are the laws of physics? They are the codes encoded into the simulation- David you've told us this 100 times and it's all I agree with you and people are waking up your trailblazer well yeah bunch your books i've read most of them get into this what's the best book to understand all this

1:03:47 Well there's a the latest one is called The Dream because that's what this is. It's an induced dream and if you want the real deep, massive one like that it's one called everything you need to know but have never been told so we are experiencing a reality imagine your come out of the womb with a headset on your parents who got headsets on You go to school, your mates have got headsets on. The teachers have got headsets on you- And you're saying that's what we're already in and now they were breaking out of that? That's what we're already in! If you if you have a headset on from leaving the womb to entering the tomb

1:04:26 Then what do you see how reality... That's how they trick your soul. That's how they manipulate you towards some greater end, You gotta come back to believe that reality and that's what we are We're believing a reality that actually is a simulation for one reason to control our sense of perception and from perception comes behavior. And if you control behavior, you control society. Sure I'm going to nail you down because i want to go to some of these calls before we gotta go some of these X comments...I have no idea what they're gonna say who they are..i think the crew may know someone there looking them up but just in closing when are you gonna come on commercial free hour on your new book?

1:05:06 Well, I'm still writing it. That's the point that's why I said to Daria you know, I couldn't come on in January because I was in a really deep series. So as soon as you're ready, DavidByke.com we want to do it back this spring maybe will be the best time to do that. All right well talk to what? We'll get you on soon while we've still got ya let's pull up X is going down this three or four times and instead of phone calls This is people on x who want to talk to you and so I've got the crew in there connected to this. I don't know how it really works with crews doing it Who do we go to first chase Let's go to Brian Krasenstein. He joined and asked to speak, go ahead and unmute yourself and say what you gotta say Brian

1:05:47 Hey, yeah no I just jumped in here so i caught the tail end of everything that you're saying but. Actually as crazy as many people think it sounds, I believe we're living in a simulation or at least I think that's more likely than a lot of the other alternatives and the saying goes if you think we're going to be able to actually simulate a universe in the future then the probability is for actually living in a simulation Apple's Apple headset right now and then consider AI being able to render environments that might not have to be actually there in a simulation. And then fast forward 50 years from now do you think it will be possible to simulate a universe and make people believe they're in that universe? I think the answer is probably yes

1:06:38 Well, I think it's absolutely yes. And what I would say is that we're already there because this simulation is doing just that and it's another interesting thing you know if you create a simulation and you want to absolutely control people's perception therefore their behavior then you don't want them interacting with other species of life within that, quote, universe so that there's an exchange of knowledge and exchange of understanding. You want them to believe they're isolated and you want them to live a life as if it's isolated. So you look out at this apparently endless universe, you look out at the night sky and see all those lights and all those planets and what have ya

1:07:29 And there was a guy called Fermi who asked this question. It became known as the Fermi paradox, there's all those lights or those planets or those stars where the hell are the bloody aliens? Well where they are is outside of our visible light reality that's why we can't see them but when you look out into the night sky it's a very kind of lonely view that we're all alone despite all that. Of course it's a loan because it's a projection, It's a simulation and the emptiness and the lack of life that it seems to have is encoded into this simulation. And David you've been saying for 30 years and now all these mainline scientists as you mentioned are saying they think its a simulation as well I want go back to the journalist who called in for any response back to David

1:08:25 Yeah, and part of Fermi's paradox. One of the suggestions is that their reason why aliens haven't reached out is because when a civilization gets technologically advanced enough instead of going outward into space they go inward basically into this virtual environment so I think there are like so many tidbits of information out there that could suggest that this is a simulation. it's far more likely than the various religions of the world or whatever other things people believe. What is interesting, I think what kind of getting a lot of scientists to come down this road is because if its simulation a lot of mysteries of life

1:09:12 and reality start to make sense. For instance, what I said just after the turn of the millennium is that this is a simulation and the limit of the simulation at this level because there are others is the speed of light. There was an article in Scientific American in April 2021 where this academic had written this article saying he believed we lived in a simulation And he was saying that he felt the limit of a simulation was the speed of light. presenting the speed of light as the processing speed of a simulation. And David, you said that 30 years ago so I'm giving you credit there we need to move the next person We got a lot other great people want to talk to David hope he stays with us for rest of hour but he's doing a lot right now finishing his book His amazing daughter went to the next level So we really appreciate David being here with us today One of my daughters and then I've got three daughters I probably wouldn't have known her for year But David is tough guy We love David

1:10:15 Who's up next here chase let's go with Adrian Dittman Adrian. Go ahead and unmute yourself and say what you have to say yeah I think it's really interesting that David Ike Say complains of I don't know being connected to the hive mind even though he already is I mean right now speaking to thousands of people Simultaneously, which is a selective high of mine be a piece of tech? It's just not integrated into your brain That's the only difference as for Wi-Fi fields Do you think that the Internet is what a simulated reality pulled over our eyes or just an interface because it's already in a false reality? Sorry, I'll shut up. He's saying we're already in a false reality and they're creating a system within a system right David

1:11:01 That's absolutely right. But there is a big difference from what the gentleman just said, that we're in a hive mind and all that stuff as we are speaking but you know there is a difference between having connections with people and communications with people and having the perceptions that we make of what we say and what we make of people's. The system is going to show us the input it wants as being given to us by a hive mind, you know? It was kind of funny how sci fi kind of later mirrors reality it's probably not a coincidence either in Star Trek they had the Borg

1:11:52 And the Borg were kind of a part technological race. What they did was infuse people with nanoprobes to make them part of the Borg hive mind, the collective as they called it And those nano probes we now call smart dust, nanobots, nanotechnology all these things. And this is all building this hive mind that I'm talking about and like I say communication is fine and interaction is fine. We should have it of course we should that's why I'm glad the Putin interview happened

1:12:37 But there's a big difference between that and having our perceptions controlled in-. Let me say this, notice how the globalists want to kill individual free communication in the Internet? They wanted to all be through this filter which is another form of the virtual reality paradigm you're talking about but I forget the name of the person commenting but sir do you want to have it come back today? Go ahead. Is he gone? Okay, I'm still here. Come back to that go ahead Yeah, you're already connected to all of this. You think that everything is different or that we don't have a smart DOS so to speak? We could only need smart DOS when you have a device that is capable all the things that you've mentioned and you are already connected to the hive mind. What what the hell are you communicating on right now who are you communicating with? All the people their perceptions shared through medium of speech like there's structurally no difference between having a bunch of nanobots running through your bloodstream accomplishing the same thing when you're holding a device that has connected to this thing that is a field of information that is the internet

1:13:39 There's nothing wrong about it. There's nothing strange about it, It's just the way things are integrating stuff like this into our cells biologically just removes latency and decreases the latency for information transmission. By the way I think this is Elon Musk Is this Elon Musk? No, no its really not. I'm just weird don't worry about it Well you could be a dead ringer for him well The Elon Clone what else do you want to say? Elon clone go ahead Yeah yeah they're all theories They're all theories Okay, it's kind of stupid. Don't worry about it. Well what else would you like to say sir? I just think this is ironic. You want to talk about the simulation everybody started speaking on the topic of simulation how we're in this false reality ever since The Matrix movie dropped A lot of people are afraid of it but they don't even understand the context

1:14:29 of why the movie even happened and why everyone's so afraid of it. When in reality, everybody got afraid of being integrated with machines and how machines were advancing faster than the things that created them thereby... The fear caused a disaster which then caused the simulation within The Matrix It's crazy right? And even then Everybody bases their ideology over simulation based off of a movie that they themselves haven't even fully understood because if you did You'd realize that there is no real world at all I mean, what do you think this is? And even if it is a simulation what are you going to do? Are you gonna break it? What's the point? You can play and build really cool shit. You can craft and make it better! That's just an equivalent of killing yourself

1:15:12 If you're gonna break it for everyone else, then that's called mass murder. That's called genocide. So don't break the simulation I quite...I don't understand the resistance for understanding the world in which we're in to the extent that we say we could shape it to make it better but were just trying to understand and to break it Well whoever this is please do not hang up We are on radio station so we have to go to a breaking moment But David Icke your talking to somebody that AI print is Elon Musk or his twin His doppelganger What do you want to say to this caller? Well, is it better that we know about the reality that we're in and how we're creating it and what its designed to do or not to know? And being complete ignorance of the very reality we are experiencing. What people do with a knowledge of understanding the reality that they are in is up to them completely.

1:16:07 But we should surely be pursuing an understanding of what is this place? What are we doing here? Otherwise, you know, we just go through life being pawns of a game. We don't want to break and I want to ask the X poster that sounds like Elon Musk a dead ringer, please stay there if you can. We're on radio station so we have to at least break twice an hour. We gotta go to a three minute break and come right back I hope the caller stays their sounds just like Elon Musk but i get the point of the Elon Musk sounding person he's saying when we don't use tools like them Native Americans didn't have guns they lost He is saying why not use it? It's kind of what I'm getting but will come right back and have the person that sounds just like Elon Musk

1:18:29 And I just want to give Adrian Dittman the floor, got cut off by the break in the David Icke encounter. Adrian, I hope you're still there go ahead. Oh yeah, I'm still here where were we at? You were getting cut off, you were explaining why not engage it, you were explaining your view on AI and computers and the systems versus what I guess people could call kind of a troglodyte view Yeah, we like to view as the system. Humans have this existential paradox built into them We initially want to surpass anything that surpasses us or eliminate it if we can't This is why were afraid of anything thats different say for instance technology I think for instance when you look at AI and we look what its capable off And we look at the fact that we are capable of generating a simulated reality in which we can do almost anything We start asking these questions

1:19:20 Oh my god, let's look within real quick and then see how that is being projected out into the world and how much of what we think is not real is real. So it's like if you think about ourselves and how we navigate through the world We are like a machine that continually projects out into the world A web of assumptions That then gets adjusted by whatever structure someone else perceives or we perceive And then we internalize that and then we think it's reality. So by default, whatever version of reality that we think is real is exceedingly limited to our senses so I agree in the sense that you know We don't see much of our reality say with it was David Aquila saying we should see we should see the Wi-Fi field

1:20:01 I think all this is possible. We could actually see or say perceive rather more of the reality that is around us if we were to augment ourselves as opposed to discarding the argumentation If AI for instance gets connected to us, I don't think it's going to be the end of us It's just going to help us evolve a faster and better you can't beat this thing. It's better than us It is much better than us. It is not just better than us all of us put together in one thing, simplified without the biological constraints that every other human brain has. It is actually quite a beautiful technology but it is also risky and I think the risk factor something that should be spoken of but in a realistic sense to the point where we don't stop its development

1:20:46 Please don't go, Adrian. Let's get David Icke's response. David Icke stay there. Can we just get this right? Is this Elon Musk or not? Never mind the name. Was it Elon Musk or what? Absolutely not! Nope absolutely not. 100% someone told me in the break, oh this is definitely Elon Musk. So that's all right now look he's plausible to ability I this isn't well good just like let's just say it's Elon Musk got any questions for him? Okay what I was saying is that people need to understand what is happening and what they're part of

1:21:26 And then maybe they can make some choices about what the how they respond to it but if you're living in a reality which is not the reality you think your experience thing and some other forces manipulating that reality to manipulate your perception of manipulate you. Then that needs exposing and its alright talking about I'm a this a that but AI is designed to take over the human mind and therefore replace it. People like Ray Kurzweil at Google, a so-called futurist has openly talked about this years ago that by 2030 this will be happening and that

1:22:09 Eventually, once the connection is made that AI will do more and more of human thinking until human thinking as we know it is basically negligible. And that's the end of humans as we have- I think what Adrian said because I want to be on a piece of this he said We don't want to have VR goggles and give us the false reality by some company but what about augmentation theoretically that lets us actually see beyond the limitations were in? Well, if you have a chip in your brain and it's feeding you a sense of reality then whatever is feeding you that sense of reality is giving you your sense of reality. But let's say it accesses the part of the brain for infrared. It's not telling what to see. It just allows you to see infrared which your brain can now do? No no I'm talking about where its meant to go

1:23:05 It's meant to go to the end result. And Kurzweil said this, and others have said it too that it's meant to go to the point where you get your perceptions delivered and what are your perceptions? They are your sense of reality. And this is a very dark and dangerous road. I don't care if it's a hard sell or it's a soft sell, It's a dangerous road. It's not what I want to live in. Well Elon Musk has said beware those that worship AI gods but Adrian you seem to have some opinions on this. You don't know Elon Musk obviously but from researching him what do you think his views are? What he wants

1:23:48 It's clear that he wants to augment us with AI and various other tech to basically enhance our experience of the world, and also make us more capable at maneuvering through the world. That seems to be his thing. But if I go to David Icke's point, it is not that you are afraid or concerned about that our perceptions themselves are going to be delivered by a piece of tech, but that they are delivered to you in an altered format that somehow benefits whatever centralized entity created that tech. Is that correct? I'm talking about having our perceptions delivered by an external force with the intention... Exactly! But how is that a problem if the perceptions that you're being delivered

1:24:38 more than what you already get. I mean, you have a bunch of sensors that are available to you right now like say for instance your eyes You have your limbs that sense differences in temperature and those can already be manipulated Those are already being manipulated right Adrian? But how's that a bad thing? On its own, it seems very benign. I don't understand where the negative element is. I can only assume that where the negative element is somehow what has been given to you is false or steers you in a particular direction that benefits the centralized entity that is manipulating your perceptions and the data that's delivered to you that isn't therefore your perception right? I think it does come down to where the feed comes from David do you see what he's saying

1:25:22 Exactly that. And well, you know I augmented reality you can sit back in a dark place anyway from my point of view but then out you know I'm 72 that's why that's my coming up that's my perception but if i'm being delivered um a sense of perception that gets me to stand up and walk out this room now when it when is I wouldn't do that if I was sitting here That is not augmented reality. That is a takeover of reality and if you are a force that wants to control people, and what are we talking about Alex? What are we talking about in terms of this global cult and what I say is non-human entities working through it and your World Economic Forum and all these people they're seeking

1:26:11 dictate our sense of reality. This is what people like to call it- I'm gonna have another question, Adrian, another question David, but let me throw that out at you. Tucker Carlson says he believes interdimensional entities are manipulating reality already through this simulation we all basically know this is. They were all agreeing that's pretty much what we're in. We haven't figured it out yet. I think Adrian saying we can use our own systems they had a breakthrough then and find out what's happening maybe I'm putting words in his mouth But regardless, having a debate about this and open discussion I think is really healthy. But Adrian what do you think about the idea that aliens aren't coming from a distant star system but have actually always been here like I've said, like Carlson said? And that there is manipulation already of the reality

1:26:56 I mean, I haven't seen any actual definitive evidence of aliens. The only proof that we have is say really shoddy footage and potentially even altered stuff that later on of course has been exposed to be as such but it's an interesting theory for sure and one that does bear a considerable amount of logic But still, I haven't seen any really convincing evidence for aliens. You could say you have some infrastructure that's difficult for humans to build so potentially a force was here at some other point or we have destroyed ourselves and then there is the case of Mars and the fact if you look at the atmosphere on Mars and you look at the levels of xenon gas within that atmosphere it is consistent with an environment post-nuclear bombardment environments

1:27:43 There are a lot of questions that need to be asked. We really need to go there and check out what exactly happened there, but regardless of that I mean sure maybe but i haven't seen any definitive evidence for aliens. Alright well that's a perfect Elon Musk answer so it is either an amazing advanced AI of Elon Musk or its Elon Musk-Adrian Dittman. I'd like to go by rogue AGI. Rogue AGI okay okay David, if you had a chance and maybe Elon will listen to this later. And wanted to ask Elon a few questions instead of I get your on your points but if he were talking to Elon Musk which we okay what would you say to him?

1:28:20 Well, if that was Elon Musk this is ridiculous. This is a playground for goodness sake So what I was going to say is that what he's talking about is really low level stuff He's talking about going to Mars Mars in our reality it just another part of the bloody simulation and I'm not saying that aliens are coming from other planets So Columbus coming to America was just a simulation? Well, everything that happens in our reality is people consciousness operating within a simulation not realizing it's a simulation unless they are in the inner core of the cult and then they bloody will. And I'm saying these non-human entities are based in another dimension what's called the astral dimension which is very close to this one and interpenetrates it but he's not other wavelength that our eyes can see. That's why we don't see them

1:29:15 And, you know the point I was making is that does anyone think? Let's just get down to the basis of this. You've spent years, I've spent years decades and all that exposing this global cult and its desire to create a dystopia, a global dystopia based on AI control And we've got people like Klaus Schwab who are openly for years now saying that, yes, that's what has to happen. We have to augment ourselves and have AI and then it will tell us what to do and will know better and will be gods and stuff according to people like Kurzweil. Now does anyone think Elon Musk or whatever he bloody calls himself in his name as a person

1:30:08 Does he believe that those that are creating this AI system of control, which on one level operates as digital currencies and- No no I get where you're going. So let's go back to Adrian who can't speak for Elon Musk and speak for Adrian. What about what about? I've noticed the globalists say they want to ban any other independent AIs. They're worried about it. They want their own AI. What is your response to that? The running logic would be that everyone else's AIs are developed in such a manner that they pose the potential risk. Keep in mind, these are the same types of people who read a few AI research papers and think that they are now AI researchers even though they just repeat what they have received in verbatim

1:29:15 And, you know the point I was making is that does anyone think? Let's just get down to the basis of this. You've spent years, I've spent years decades and all that exposing this global cult and its desire to create a dystopia, a global dystopia based on AI control And we've got people like Klaus Schwab who are openly for years now saying that, yes, that's what has to happen. We have to augment ourselves and have AI and then it will tell us what to do and will know better and will be gods and stuff according to people like Kurzweil. Now does anyone think Elon Musk or whatever he bloody calls himself in his name as a person

1:30:08 Does he believe that those that are creating this AI system of control, which on one level operates as digital currencies and- No no I get where you're going. So let's go back to Adrian who can't speak for Elon Musk and speak for Adrian. What about what about? I've noticed the globalists say they want to ban any other independent AIs. They're worried about it. They want their own AI. What is your response to that? The running logic would be that everyone else's AIs are developed in such a manner that they pose the potential risk. Keep in mind, these are the same types of people who read a few AI research papers and think that they are now AI researchers even though they just repeat what they have received in verbatim

1:30:54 which ironically makes them more of an AI than the AIs that they're building because that's essentially just training data and you're spitting it back out again with no actual innovation assigned to it because you're not creatively connecting other points of data in a way that they haven't been connected before. So I mean, okay yeah sure I get the logic behind that. I mean I've read a lot about AI safety. I'm not an expert by any means, not even close But I would say this is the logic that I see personally. This is more like a perception and an opinion than an actual definitive take in terms of the fact that I believe it's true, There's fear, it is just that fear. If there is malicious intent behind that, that still remains to be seen maybe there is maybe there isn't but if you look at the prime motivator for all of this It is fear What is the first thing any safetyist tells you about? The paperclip scenario Are we familiar with a paperclip scenario? I am a tell people

1:31:46 Yeah, it's very simple that you give an agent a set goal. It says hey It's it's a benign agent is an agent that does not seek to destroy anything But its goal is to turn things into paperclips to manufacture paper clips and so eventually it realizes Oh I could create a whole bunch of more paperclips if I say ...the atoms that are inside of your body in such a way that it becomes in a paperclip and then it begins paperclipping the fucking universe at some point when it reaches critical mass. Right? This is obviously bad because then it kills all of humanity in the pursuit of creating paperclips It's not trying to do this because it hates humanity, it's just doing this because its misaligned Doesn't understand we needed paperclips but we also want to exist ourselves

1:32:26 And so we throw this around and say, oh. So here's the thing we've developed this exceedingly complicated system what most people like to refer to as a black box AI We cannot look at it. We don't understand what it is even if we tried because it's too complex actually perceive and now we have these things running around and we have these centralized entities that are very experienced in building technologies that are running the world currently saying hey We can develop this faster, but we have to do it slower. And then you have people who rebel against saying hey I got the GPUs, I got 200 GPUs in the back of my truck right now and i'm going to make an AI faster than you can." Then they do because they take more risks along the way. This is another aspect to AI safety where you're putting restrictions on yourself. They say oh shit

1:33:09 We have to be safe about this. And if we're not safe about this, then- So you're saying the AI Wild Wild West- You're saying the AI Wild Wild West or the AI wars are here? Adrian I mean, yeah. Obviously you can run an AI on a small little Apple Watch right now if you wanted to just gut it the computers there. You have a Mac mini? You can run an AI on that. The computer is already here. Training is already a bit of problem. Need more compute for that but you can definitely run it and someone else can build It's, it's. Adrian we're really glad you called in please don't hang up I'm gonna give David Icke a closing comment because the show only has eight minutes left and i'm going to give Adrian a closing comment and then we're gonna go to the fourth hour of The Guest Host that's here and it's my 50th birthday somebody said man he gave me a birthday cake I love him but it's whatever we'll see if that happens but the point is is that David Icke Adrien still there this has been quite the interview so gonna get a lot of attention uh and just closing comments David Icke

1:34:15 What am I exposing, what have we been exposing all these years? It's a agenda to ultimately replace the human mind with artificial intelligence. So, artificial intelligence becomes the human mind. I've been writing about it for decades and step by step we move closer and closer to that all of time. That is not an accident! It's the World Economic Forum agenda, it's The Gates Agenda, its The Global Cult agenda to do that And we can talk about, oh well we could have regulation here or regulation there and augmented reality there. But the bottom line is that what's unfolding

1:35:03 is the takeover of human perception. How has it been done so far? It's been done by controlling information, so you can censor what you don't want people to hear because that will affect their perception in a way that you don't want that too to happen. So control of information... People get their perceptions from information received It might be a personal experience, it might be an item on the news. It might be something I see on Facebook but they're controlled controlling their or their perceptions are controlled by the information they receive and how they process them what i'm saying is that this um is meant to go to a whole new stage

1:35:55 in which no longer is it necessary to manipulate information, to manipulate perception. Because your perceptions will come direct and you know this is where its going! David we understand... Amazing hour and 45 minutes with you when your book comes out in a few months I look forward speaking to you at davidike.com iconic dot com thank you so much David Ike All right, mate. Thank you very much been great that was powerful the best day on Yeah Our Adrian it's not Elon It's just somebody that sounds just like even it sounds as smart as him So I'm gonna shut up for Adrian here in the six minutes We have left and just about the whole world the Putin interview war the economy Just we want to hear what Adrian has to say go ahead any room

1:36:48 Can you give me a second? Yes, Adrian. You've got the floor to talk about just in general your view on the world. Just like literally give me a second something's about to explode. All right somethings about to explode there's David Icke right there No mention of God or base reality no mention of base reality or god The reality we live in is real That's that all the simulations you want but... ...you have to have a reality in the beginning and then now we're gonna discount god completely out of conversation And now we're just gonna talk to and pretend that Elon Musk is not Elon Musk. We're going to pretend that he doesn't want to put a chip in, and the Elon Musk is not playing just the tip with the chip. Once he gets that chip in and seen his Adrian's war elsewhere then he starts talking okay? Nobody has ever considered whether or

1:37:43 Our minds are going to be taken over or our bodies. Maybe it's we're just the flesh pots for the chip because we're cheaper, will live off a bowl of rice when we fix ourselves. No no Matt I hear you but we were having a great talk with Elon Musk and come back to you We got all these great people to talk to her not Elon Musk this Adrian fella. Adrian is whatever blew up fixed now can you talk to us? Yeah, well I can't heavily diverting towards Star Trek-esque scenarios. I think if you really want to talk about say controlling people's perception and information warfare probably we are more afraid of this thing than we actually should be now I mean, I want you to consider this for a second Are you guys aware of say technology known as cortical labs? Do you know what that is? Does anybody know what that is?

1:38:30 Very nice little thing. Basically the idea is you take a bunch of silicone and you boost what it is capable of by merging it with human biology, by taking neurons and placing them on the chip. This allows you to do some really cool stuff. You need neurons for various tasks so that would be one of them. It would be absolutely perfect. So I want you to consider something in the future. Imagine we become a space-faring race in which eventually we pursue to leave the solar system because the sun will die in a couple billion years. And potentially even less than that, our planet will be cooked before the inevitability of the Sun's collapse and or explosion. We know it is right? So the problem is you have to leave the solar system but how are you going to do that if you look at humans right now them as a biological thing

1:39:20 We're very inefficient. We require a lot of resources and we just look at it Look at what it would take to go to Mars, you know You have to shield us from everything that's out there You have to look how much how many supplies we have? You have to somehow figure out how to pass the time or put us in suspended animation something we've also not figured out how to do because it's probably impossible remember that There was a project in the past where we were exploring trying to freeze people. That didn't work out because well, it ruptures your cells and kills you. So I tried it and didn't really work So if you can't solve that, then the obvious next step would be to take what is human and implant that into a machine. At first we're going to have say a machine implanted in us but I think at one point our brain will be implanted into a machine once we reach say a certain age as an individual being right? We'll be discarding a lot of biology

1:40:14 We become less of ourselves as a result because you're not just one life form, you are a cooperative instance of biology made out of bacteria and various other cells that are independently alive. You just cooperate much like a machine is made up of many different parts so are you and these individual parts themselves in fact alive That is the thing that I personally find worrisome, is that we discard so much of ourselves in a pursuit of escaping our own impending doom via the sun. They gave us life at first... So you're saying we can make copies of ourselves and send it all over the universe?

1:40:54 Not necessarily that. What I'm saying is that we can augment ourselves as machinery or augment ourselves into machinery to such an extent that we can prolong our biological existence, as long as possible up until the point where eventually would have to consider making copies of ourselves and but that is so far in the future there's no telling... So you're talking about life extension? life extension technology. a lot of innovation until we reach this point. And we don't know enough about the brain, we don't know enough for the body, we don't know enough about the universe, we don't know where all the information in our head is actually being stored or it is coming from how we operate and why we have vivid hallucinations when we take certain

1:41:47 substances like DMT or psilocybin. We know so very little about ourselves, but yet we are still pursuing trying to make digital copies of ourselves. So I mean this is the current trend line and i'm not saying that this is the future but if you look at it this way and there's really nothing else to the human body or the human brain then that is where it goes what it then does afterwards is completely up to debate This is uncharted territory It's all theory If you want to go the sci-fi route Wow. Well, Adrian and I imagine you have to go. We've got a whole nother hour coming up with the guest hosts is coming in but I would hope that Adrian will be able to join us again here on the show and Adrian appreciate you calling him here on X spaces. All right thank you give us a heart all right folks this is twilight zone territory right now David Ike and it's obviously Elon Musk she can't make this up we'll be right back