TUESDAY TRANSMISSION: Rhode Island Trans Shooter Threatened Alex Jones Day Before He Murdered His Family, Trump Admin’s Handling Of Epstein Case Triggering Mass Exodus & Potential Collapse of MAGA! PLUS, Drones Discover Evidence Of An Underground Base At Epstein's Zorro Ranch! MK-Ultra Victim & Human Trafficking Survivor, Cathy O’Brien, Joins Alex Jones To Respond To Bombshell Epstein Revelations Confirming Elite Satanism, Cannibalism, & Mass Murder! FINALLY, Former Navy SEAL & Counterterrorism Expert Matt Bracken Joins Infowars To Break The Latest On US-Iran Nuclear Talks In Geneva, Palantir, Globalists' Replacement Migration Agenda & MORE! — FULL SHOW 2/17/26

00:00 Whatever the future may hold, InfoWars will always live forever. The fight will continue. Be sure to follow us on X at RealAlexJones and at AJN Live. And now you can download the number one news app in the world. Go to AlexJonesApp.com and let the Democrat Deep State Party know that we will never be silenced. InfoWars, tomorrow's news today. All right, as I predicted, if Trump mishandled the Epstein files, it is causing a mass exodus out of MAGA. They are allowing the globalists to grab victory out of the jaws of defeat. I've been exposing this.

01:23 Because I know what I'm talking about, because I know Trump's not involved from what we've known over the years. And as more evidence comes out, it just proves it. But his admin is covering it up. So we'll be breaking down the mass exodus, how it can be reversed. And for anybody out there who's white pill living in la la land, saying no, don't put pressure on administration. General Flynn's coming on tomorrow. He's extremely upset, the most upset I've ever heard him. And Trump has bad people around him, okay? And so this is an intervention to save the country and the world here, folks. This is a big deal. Also, it turns out the latest psychotic trans shooter that killed five people in his family and then himself was threatening to kill me. Fox News is reporting just a few days ago for criticizing a trans member of Congress for just saying he's a creepy dude. I told you the main threats I get are from trans people. That's coming up.

02:28 Massive news on so many fronts, confirmed MK Ultra sex slave and international Satanism rings that are connected directly to the CIA and Bill Barr, all of it. Epstein, Kathy O'Brien for two hours and she'll take your calls. She's coming up next hour. You want to join us for that? But here's MTG saying we need a revolution against the pedophile occupational government. 100% for is pulling the left and the right, the American people.

03:07 pulling us back together. That's the America I love. This was before I got involved in politics. I was friends with everybody. We all were. You know, politics did not reign over our family get-togethers, our social events, the freaking Super Bowl concerts. My God, everything. We had life and it was so fun. my gosh, we had so much fun. I want to go back to the days of the government can be seen but not heard. Not heard. I don't want to hear a fucking thing you say. Shut up. Like I want that. Now what does it look like policy wise. I you know I'm I'm one of those got to get in the granular details and like read the actual legislation or the policy description and analyze you know well how does that affect us. Can we actually afford that. Right. We're 40 trillion dollars in debt and we're seven years away from Social Security being insolvent. Like these are major problems.

04:03 So, like, for as far as, like, the economic policies, I'd have to get more into to understand. But I think that what I want to see is I just love people. I love all the people. I don't care what group they are. I don't care their race. I don't care whatever their sexual this. I don't care about their religion. I just think that people are so great. that we need to pull ourselves together and we have to hold our government accountable. That's what our founding fathers told us to do. Like it's a mandate. Hold your government accountable. And we

04:39 and we have lost ourselves. We have totally lost ourselves and been easily lulled and distracted into a world where we're just too busy or we're just too, I don't know, the American people have lost our identity. We come from a- We've been in a trans formation, America. We come from the same people that took down the most powerful king on the planet simply because they were pissed off about 3% on their teeth. They were badasses. Let's get back to that kind of thinking. Okay, we've got our government's a bunch of pedophiles and they're all in it together and they're eating children. Hold on. And our taxes are way past 3%. We should be really, really mad. Really, really mad. And so I'm interested in

05:31 History is repeating itself. The globalist, pedophile, satanic New World Order is now being drug out into the light of the sun at high noon. And we all know vampires can't stand the light of truth. It's all metaphors. Oh, they don't live forever, but the spirits in them are ancient. Satanism is 100% real. The devil is 100% real. And so is God and so is your choice. So the pedophile Satan network is being exposed and is gonna go down to a great extent. There'll still be pockets of it, but it can only operate when it's hidden. The only question is, will President Trump go down with the satanic pedophile ship when the documents all show it's the Democrats and leftists worldwide that are having to resign who are captaining it? So why does Pam Bondi and others continue to not release the files and lied again Saturday and said they had and even told Congress that when they didn't?

04:39 and we have lost ourselves. We have totally lost ourselves and been easily lulled and distracted into a world where we're just too busy or we're just too, I don't know, the American people have lost our identity. We come from a- We've been in a trans formation, America. We come from the same people that took down the most powerful king on the planet simply because they were pissed off about 3% on their teeth. They were badasses. Let's get back to that kind of thinking. Okay, we've got our government's a bunch of pedophiles and they're all in it together and they're eating children. Hold on. And our taxes are way past 3%. We should be really, really mad. Really, really mad. And so I'm interested in

05:31 History is repeating itself. The globalist, pedophile, satanic New World Order is now being drug out into the light of the sun at high noon. And we all know vampires can't stand the light of truth. It's all metaphors. Oh, they don't live forever, but the spirits in them are ancient. Satanism is 100% real. The devil is 100% real. And so is God and so is your choice. So the pedophile Satan network is being exposed and is gonna go down to a great extent. There'll still be pockets of it, but it can only operate when it's hidden. The only question is, will President Trump go down with the satanic pedophile ship when the documents all show it's the Democrats and leftists worldwide that are having to resign who are captaining it? So why does Pam Bondi and others continue to not release the files and lied again Saturday and said they had and even told Congress that when they didn't?

06:38 General Flynn called me this morning and he rarely does that. He was hopping mad with all the intel he's got. He's joining us tomorrow. We have Kathy O'Brien, who is a confirmed MKUltra sex slave, Satanist slave from the time she was a tiny girl. She broke out of it with the help of a good CIA officer and wrote Transformation of America. Put the book on screen. And I read the book probably four or five times. We've got a copy around here somewhere, but we need to get an online version. Put the cover, please. where she lays out in a book written 30 years ago, I'll pull it up on my phone for you here. She's pulled the cover for it, Transformation of American, Kathy O'Brien. And in it, she explains how they were beta testing it in the CIA and through their satanic networks on the ground, and how in the decades to come, they would roll out the pedophilia, sexualization of children through the gay liberation rainbow movement.

07:51 And basically put the whole country under satanic mind control to go from beta fully operational. I mean, it's incredible, but she was getting this directly from the decades of torture she went through. The satanic networks torture and rape the children, some cases kill them. Then they go and once they've already been programmed, because that's an ancient form of programming, then they would bring them to the CIA through the feeder groups. Her handler was Gerald Ford, or that was the group she was fed into there in Michigan. And everything she's talked about has been confirmed, by declassifications, you name it. But to see everything she warned of 30 years ago happen is incredible. And she's a supporter of Trump. And she can see that the bad guys are coming after him. The last time she was on a few months ago. But I don't know where she's gonna be now with Pam Bondi and the rest of them covering this up, which is so incredible because Trump

08:50 We already know the networks, we know the groups even before the rest of the files came out that exonerated him as the first federal informant that blew the whistle on him 18 years ago. I already knew that. So why is he doing it now? Well, he said a few weeks ago, continuing to focus on this will really hurt the country, hurt the stock market. Bondi said it last week in Congress. No covering it up will hurt our souls and the stock market, everything else. The American people are awake to this. And just as you read all the ancient archaeological studies, and you read the Bible or other historical books, because they found everything in the Old and New Testament, basically everything, but the Ark of the Covenant and the Ark, though they think they found the remnants of the Ark, Mount Ararat, they certainly found the remnants of a giant boat. We don't know if that's the Ark. I don't know about a mountain, how to get there. But everything else has been found. Everything Plato wrote about has been basically found. He was a historian and first big philosopher, obviously the most famous

09:55 of that new age of philosophers. I mean, new age, new age, but that age of philosophers then, so kind of the father of Western civilization. But it's all full of Satanism. It's all full of blood drinking. It's all full of barbecuing children. It's all full of cannibalism. The Old Testament's all about that group saying, yeah, we've sacrificed our kids. Everybody else is doing it. God tells us stop doing it. He got Abraham told to kill his son as a test and then the angel grabs his arm. It says kill the ram that had just come right out in the brush. They're not your son. God just wanted to see if you do what you were told. But this practice of human sacrifice ends. And then Christ came and said, it's completely over. I am the last sacrifice. Because that's how every culture, whether it was the Mayans and the Toltecs and the Olmecs and then the Aztecs, or whether it was the ancient Druids all over Ireland, Scotland, England today,

10:55 in ancient Africa, still in Africa today, Asia, all the same human sacrifice of babies. And so this is the reality and it's coming out. I've been telling you this for 32 years in April. We're just a month and a half shot, 32 years on air. And day one, I was covering it because all the experts that I knew and I trusted were exposing this. But they were doing in books and in little conferences and in newsletters. And they were prominent people. It didn't matter who it was. There was Ted Gunter's sinner, John DeCamper, G. Edward Griffin, explained it's pedophilia and Satanism. This is what we're facing. This is who runs it. Here's how they operate. Here's what they do. And then it came out.

12:02 Even the mainstream media in the 90s and 2000s, and they got corporate control of the media totally and never saw any more about DynCorp and Halliburton. And the UN caught kidnapping millions of women and children out of Europe and shipping them all over the world. I mean, it's massive. And even AP reports about the Clintons and the head of their foundation arrested and thousands of kids smuggled out in Haiti. That was just a decade ago. And stealing all the relief money. I mean, it's horrible, but it is the reality. And so there's a term in psychology that's way overused, narcissist. Trump got obsessed with famous self-help books and stuff when he was a kid and positive thinking. And he really does love everybody and wants to be successful and doesn't like war. But he thinks if he just thinks for everything positive, that's the way it is. And it's good to a certain extent, but not the other extent. And he makes everything about him. And yes, then bringing out Epstein and all this now, even though it burns the globalist,

13:17 They thought they could handle it, it's out of their control. It's immolating them, it's self immolation. They are bringing out cherry pick stuff, nothing burgers. And it's not a nothing burger that the DOJ is covering it up. So because Trump all made it about him not being involved. And so let's go ahead and shut this down. Now you are involved. And that was the devil's trick and his pride. And why was Epstein so powerful? Why was he so important?

13:52 I knew he was in the Trilateral Commission on sub boards. I didn't know he was the representative of David Rockefeller who sat in for him as his factotum, his representative, as the head of the Trilateral Commission. He told Bannon that, I had never researched that area other than knowing he was in the Trilateral Commission when he was 30. He was for David Rockefeller when all over the world spoke for him. That's called in the Roman historical parlance an imperial legate, legate. One that speaks for the emperor. And the real president of this country, to a great extent since even the 60s has been David Rockefeller. They created the UN, the CFR, the Trilateral Commission, everything. And now it all makes sense. He wasn't just a super gopher. He was the central controller, the air traffic controller of the corporate and governmental systems.

14:57 As I've said for many years, that was the case. The real globalist agents aren't Mossad or CIA or FBI or even WF. They're corporate and they've got people in all the groups that they control like a symphony. You could say that Jeffrey Epstein was a conductor with a thousand piece symphony. And I know symphonies aren't a thousand pieces, that's my point. But they wrote Kissinger wrote superclass, now there's 3,000 superclass that rule the world through the interlocking directorates. When you get to the top boards, it's about 100 people that are on all the top other boards that control the 3,000 under them. They write books how it works. Carol Quigley wrote one, Tragedy at Home. He was for it. Bill Clinton's mentor, Georgetown University, head of political science. It's 1,100 pages. I've read the book twice. I've read all of Brzezinski's books. He brags about it.

15:55 I had many times Dr. Francis Boyle who got the PhD at Harvard, they only give one a year, the Kissinger Chair is what it's called. He was top of his class in every way, kept his mouth shut, never even told him he'd work for him. He was just very quiet. And then after he got all the degrees, they said, all right, we're about to make you a super leader. And he said, no, thank you, I'm gonna come after you now. And he confirmed all of this as well. Harvard's the main mothership of the Chicago Business School, Yale, Penn State, UT, Stanford. Berkeley, they were components of this. But to get into the predator group, I told you this a million times, sex with 14 year old girls is the first step. Then the money laundering, the corruption, all the things you're doing for them. Then it's little kids. And then it's, we're gonna go in this basement and there's two toddlers we've used up, they've been getting raped for about a year. Cigarette burns all over them, broken bones, drooling.

17:03 We want you to go in there and we want you to rape them and then blow their heads off. By the way, this has come out in FBI reports, you don't see it on the news. I'm telling you actual stories here. And there's other ones that Gunderson got out and were later confirmed with the finders where they'd have some rich banker wife and husband that were super high level. And after a decade, they would come to him one day and say, get in the back of the van. They put guns to their heads and they take them and they'd say, all right, this is all on tape. You see that six year old girl? We want you to rip her throat out with your own teeth and rub the blood all over you on camera or we're gonna kill you right now. And they, shotguns, you ready to die? And the bankers are crying, they're like, get in there, pussies. By the way, scream hell Satan while you do it. And there's cameras, they go in and they just tear that little girl's throat out and then roll around the blood. Then they come in, they say, have sex with a dead body now. Now, you're gonna stay here for two weeks until you've eaten every bite of that kid.

18:07 It's about making you do horrible things. It's about humiliating you, dominating you, breaking you, to push the Holy Spirit completely away from you. Because they're watching when you're raping kids and stuff that you didn't really enjoy it. So they need to fully make you do pure evil stuff so that they can get God. Because when you do that, God removes His Spirit from you. Now the off-world entity, now that the Holy Spirit field that blocks them, it's removed and now it can come in. This is all science. They got to take down the energy field. Before they can get in, like an Empire Strikes Back. Admiral Ozzel comes in too close to the system, so they're able to get the defense shield up. There's an energy field protecting the third planet in the Haas system or whatever they say. Admiral Ozzel is as clumsy as he is stupid. Make ready to land our troops beyond their energy field and deploy the fleet. Make sure nothing gets off the system. Well, think of it in reverse. They gotta get the Holy Spirit defense shield lowered.

19:14 And then they can get right in. What do the Imperial Walkers go after? They go after the defense generator. And once they blow up the defense generator, they've got it. You see, they gotta get God out of school, God out of our hearts. They gotta lower the shields. They gotta blow the shields. And once they've blown the shields, they can go for a free-for-all. And you ask how far does evil go? It has no limit. That's why there's the confirmed pedophilia, cannibalism, murder, torture, all these top Harvard people, top MIT. I love the torture video. Yeah, we're delivering the sex slave to the Hyatt. It's been paid for, enjoy yourself. Yeah, my sex slave ran its operations well, but still talked back, so I tortured her. Kathy O'Brien, by the time she was like eight years old, tortured, mind controlled from birth in a satanic cult.

20:15 Put in a few years before into actual MKUltra, electroshock programming. Now she's delivering messages, sex slaving, flown to New York, flown to DC, flown around the world. Photographic memory because of the compartmentalization, going back, hypnotized, total briefings. That's all declassified about MKUltra doing that with children. See, to survive under intense torture like that, the brain compartmentalizes before the age of six. The brain grows only till about age six and it develops its main personality or the blueprint for that by six. And by about 13 it's complete. But biologically up to age six, that's why they hit them and they hit them hard from the time they're a baby. That's why MC's talking with top scientists about

21:16 Torturing babies while they play the voice of their mother is better for programming them because it opens them up even more. They're programmed to that voice they heard in the womb. So if you torture them during the voice being played, it takes it to a new level of control. This is real Satanism. Mad science, pure evil delivered. And MKUltra is just the name of one huge government secret project that went on for decades. But what you know of is mind control is all around you. It's now externalized. It's not just in the laboratories. That's the stuff they're testing, the new stuff. All the old stuff, it's been deployed already. You're living in it.

22:03 I remember 30 years ago, they had Discovery Channel, History Channel, two-hour documentaries about Charlie and Wes, you and Cameron, tens of thousands of kidnapped kids, programming them in Maryland, programming in Toronto, little girls, LSD, PCP, electroshock therapy, six months of recordings of their brains, so that you can give them a command and they'll go catatonic. Or give them a command and they spread their legs. Or give them a command and if you've then trained them, shoot somebody. So this is declassified. It was declassified 11, 12 years ago that from the 60s until the 90s in West Germany, over 30,000 children were taken specifically in the program from Christian good homes, discriminatory towards Christians, and given to convicted pedophiles to then make sex slaves out of them. And they even told you that. So you ask what Epstein is, it's this, industrial level evil.

23:11 And there are a lot of these networks and a lot of these groups that are connected. But with him, he was hired as a sex slave operator, but made the representative David Rockefeller on the Trilateral Commission. But he still kept his boots on the ground. He led from the front in an evil way. He was the George Washington of Satanism. He didn't sit in his ivory tower. He went out and recruited young girls by the thousands just in Florida, hundreds and hundreds. And he would demand, get me more, get me more, get me more. And then he had it where the girls would then train them for him. And the ones that got out of line, you're dead. And of course, the little kids that are hard to control, the ones you don't decide to keep alive, well, they're eaten and drained. And that's what they brought in by the boatloads, the beef jerky is gonna land in the boat, we're gonna walk it up to you. We're gonna chop it all up and send it to addresses all over the US including quote laboratories, organs, flying them out.

24:24 But the controllers, he would fly on, it's declassified to Eastern Europe, and by seven, eight, nine, 10 year olds, where they can look at the parents, look at the photos, they know it's gonna be a supermodel. They would bring those back, train them, rank them, but prepare them, and then they would be the minders and the controllers of all the different harems or satanic brothels they had everywhere. And it wasn't just Zorro Ranch. There were hundreds of these under Epstein's control now we know. So he really loved his work and worked 18 hours a day, a vessel of Satan. And now we've got all the black magic stuff coming out of there, and it's in the emails and everywhere. That's who these people are. And that's why so many of the shooters of John Lennon, you name it, say they just keep hearing the catcher in the rye over and over again, cuz that's what they were programmed to in a particular program. So they mean business.

25:35 Of course they give you shots that make you have heart attacks and sterilize you and give you cancer. Of course they spray aluminum dioxide on you that kills the plants, the humans, everything else slowly. Of course they're attacking the family. Of course they locked down the churches but left the topless bars and the Black Lives Matter protests going. Of course they're banning Christianity. Of course they're infiltrating the churches. Of course, because it is a satanic, spiritual, which just means transdimensional invasion. Yeah, the UN didn't report the tens of thousands of kids and sex slavery in Haiti Oh and guess who was running it the Clinton Foundation and guess who set up the Clinton Foundation world initiative not to be confused with their library foundation. They always try to confuse that Snopes will go. Oh, just leave Maxwell didn't start their library fund. I should know no No, she's in the documents on record even before this came out mainline documents funding and starting the Clinton global initiative and

26:39 that took the millions to Haiti and the thousands of kids. But Hillary put a statement out here, I forgot to send it to you guys. She put a text statement out there. Me and Bill had nothing to do with Epstein. I mean, sure, Bill went on some charity events with him into the island a few times, but that's it. That's it. Yeah, right lady, your first job as a lawyer, you're on tape bragging about it, was going and helping rich men that he grabbed a 10 or 11 year old girl, we've interviewed her, broke her face in, smashed it in. She's got scars all over her face, they smashed her face in. And then they raped her, raped her so hard with a, what was it, a broomstick? They raped her for about two days, and they crushed her cervix in with a, what was it, a broomstick? She never had kids. Nice people, huh? Hillary said, yeah, I knew they were guilty, but it doesn't matter, I sure fooled that judge. She starts laughing, we're gonna file the tape. Yeah.

30:38 with Matt Bracken and the geopolitical military developments, Iran strikes and more. But I wanna shift now to another arm of the whole Pito system. It's everywhere. Huge firestorm in the UK, over here storming for 13 years, 15 years as the head magistrate of the country over the Child Protective Services, literally allowing no prosecutions of Islamic giant pedophile rings that rape thousands of girls and kill many of them per town, tens of thousands per city. And now that there is a inquiry, private inquiry happening, they just destroyed the records starting yesterday. The government did. Unbelievable. See, it's the same octopus, folks. In fact, the UK and Europe, for my studies, is the mothership. But it goes on everywhere. Satan operates the same. I mean, Satanism, cannibalism in Africa, Latin America, Asia, it's everywhere.

31:40 It is the religion of the predators. The opposite of doing to others as you have done unto you or lay down your life for your brothers. The opposite of Jesus Christ. That's why Joe Rogan has accepted Jesus Christ now and understands good versus evil. I told you that a couple years ago, was the first to break it. Because Joe told me and now he's public, professing Jesus Christ. Saying we all need Jesus. Good is real, evil is real. You see, He was turned off by mainline establishment religion, which is designed to turn you off. This is the Great Awakening, folks, but it's a spiritual battle. The political stuff is just a derivative of that, a side issue. It comes from that. But another thing I wanna hit is the rise of the transgender death cult created by MI6, Tabasak Institute, CIA in the 70s and 80s, deployed to the schools, pushed with

32:39 Bruce Jenner and all the rest of it is just be nice. It's like gay marriage. Just let two guys get married. Okay, I'm not hateful. Just let your kid be another sexist. But the school's gonna teach him that and take him away from you. It's all out of the Pritzkers. It's all out of their pedophile rings. It's coming out the Pritzkers with Epstein, of course, cuz they can't normalize sex with kids. We'll normalize the state brainwashing and taking your kid and then cutting their genitals off or chemically castrating them. normalizing hell on earth, euthanasia of the children in Canada, the Netherlands, state killing people without even their consent. That's beyond euthanasia. That's where we are. It's all around you. People say, who's the new Epstein? It's everywhere. They've gone from beta to...

33:27 Externalization, and he's in emails 10 years ago, 15 years ago to the heads of biology departments about how do we normalize transgenderism. It creates the perfect slaves. They'll accept two men can have a baby and there's no sex. They'll accept everything. That's what it's about. You'll accept men and women's bathrooms and dressing rooms and men competing not as a girl sports, but adult men in children's sports. In Canada, you will accept anything. In cults, they make you do ridiculous things. When I say jump, you say how high? When I say how many fingers am I holding up, you say I don't know, tell me how many. You just see a blur. In 1984, Winston's being tortured by O'Brien. And he's been torturing him for weeks, his teeth have all fallen out. He's like, listen, puts him on a rack, electrocutes him, puts cages with rats on his head. He says, in room 101, he goes, I'll say any number you want. He goes, no, no, Winston, you'll know when you know. So finally, he holds up

34:30 Four fingers, just how many holding up? And he says, and then O'Brien says the number, which is a wrong number. And Winston sees that, sees the hand blurt away, and he believes it. He goes, now, now we've destroyed your soul. Now we've destroyed your free will. Now we're gonna soon let you go and sit at the Chestnut Cafe and drink synthetic gin and watch the telescreens about all our wars. And then one day, you won't know when, we'll just come in and shoot you in the back of the head. And then you'll be put into a furnace and your ashes pumped in the atmosphere and no one will ever know you existed. Winston, it's about a victory against good, Winston. We want evil, we want to hurt you, Winston. We want to hurt humanity, we want to hurt decency, we want ugliness. Trampling and being trampled upon, we are the priest of power, Winston. He was number two in the Thabian Socialist Society and number one at the BBC in propaganda. And until he got to that top, he thought they were trying to help people with communism. And they all sat around and laughed and said, we're Satanists. And he went, really?

35:45 And his family had lost its wealth by then, but they were before very rich, but were in the elite with Galton, Wedgwood, Huxley, and Darwin. Their grandfathers were in that class, just like the Trump admin, all the sons run all the big money operations, so now he's handed down. So they're telling you, and Orwell wrote essays again saying, no, this is what I believe they're gonna build if we don't stop them. And his cousin Aldous Huxley said no,

36:24 before he died in 61. He said, George Orwell was wrong. We don't want to use the boots and SWAT teams. That's for the few people that resist us. We're going to drug people, dumb them down, put chemicals in the water that destroy the sexes and dumb everybody down so much with entertainment that they're going to love their servitude. And that will be the model he said that we'll have done sometime, he thought, by 2020. That's always been their launch date to go from beta to operational. You can read his book, Brave New World Revisited. You can hear the Berkeley speech is really about 80 minutes long. Most versions are 60 minutes, make sure you find the 81 minute version. And you're like, oh, who's he? Oh, just a top technocrat and part of a government breeding program who created advanced genius. And then his brother ran UNESCO, ran the UN, Julian Huxley. You might want to learn about these people. I have. That's how I know their moves because I've read their playbook. And it's not just a big club and we ain't in it. When they're done, we'll be dead.

37:36 But these mad scientists like Bill Gates are not all powerful. Want to hear about Bill Gates? His father, head of Planned Parenthood, head of the World Eugenics Society, when they changed the name, he'd also been co-chair with Julian Huxley of the World Eugenics Society. They changed the name after World War II to the World Transhumanist Society. His mother was an IBM executive. When Thomas Watson died, she was the chair of the board. IBM's sole purpose was to stop race mixing and create a master race of eugenics. So IBM was signed over to Bill Gates, but they had antitrust issues. They acted like that IBM was in a fight with Microsoft, but they just so happened to give him the software licensing and then he took over.

38:21 Microsoft is a subsidiary of IBM to carry out world government, the murder of you and your family. So just learn about it. Hitler took orders from Thomas Watson throughout the war. In fact, Hitler wrote in documents that were later released that basically his boss was Thomas Watson. Hitler created a special award for Thomas Watson as the father of the Reich and as the supreme defender of the Reich. You might want to learn about that. You see, when you see Microsoft and IBM and all the nice little groups, so loving and liberal. So we have on a daily basis now, up in Canada, a man who thinks he's a woman who's totally psychotic and demonic, constantly at the shooting range, talking about killing people, goes and kills 10 people. The media tries to cover up that it's a man who thinks he's a woman.

39:33 Now he was shooting at a Rhode Island ice rink, trans father who said he was a woman. Let's put some pictures of this guy up. Shoots five members of his family, including three, killing three, including himself. It took him overnight to admit that it was a man. And let's pull some photos of this freakazoid. He reminds me of that guy that attacks the shopkeeper saying, it's ma'am, the ex-convict. Hey, buddy. Hey, sir, what can I do for you? It's ma'am. And of course, got SS lightning bolt runes and order of the death said on the arm. It's about whatever is radical, whatever is evil. But he was a big anti-Trumper, big supporter saying Trump's running the Epstein cover up. And it's been confirmed that I simply responded to folks pointing out how sick

40:39 Congressman Tim McBride is and simply said creepy and Roberta, that's the killer of his own family, said Alex Jones, shut the F up Alex. Don't be so butthurt over somebody different than wonder why trans people go F-ing berserk. It's a threat. But he couldn't organize himself I guess to come down here and we're not a soft target big man. So if you're looking for a place to get some holes in you, you better bring some corks.

41:16 But I've said, the only time I got attacked now is trans people. And if it's some guy that thinks he's a woman and is nice, I don't hate those people. If you're an adult, I don't hate you at all. I'm not judging you. But no, the goblin-like men that run around threatening everyone, and use it as an excuse to be a bully, and they wanna go in women's restrooms all day, just like Congressman Tim McBride constantly takes selfies in the women's bathrooms. I mean, look, I'm not saying the guy is a pedophile. I'm just saying I was gonna cast somebody to be a pedophile in a movie that drives around in ice cream trucks and kidnaps kids. I would cast him, McBride, the congressman for that. I mean, the creep monitor, people have gaydar. Well, I got pedo radar. And maybe my radar is off, but this is like, high level danger, danger, danger. But for speaking out against, just saying that McBride is creepy,

42:10 Well, I've been threatened and it's interesting. It's been picked by the news. Here is a Fox News reporting on it. And here's local newscasts where they had to admit it as a man. Let's go to a few of those clubs. Here it is. He was defending trans congresswoman Sarah McBride. He wrote this in part on X. Keep bashing us, but do not wonder why we go berserk. So they're looking into all of these things on social media as investigators say it was a targeted attack. That's one thing they know for sure. Sources telling Fox it was a dispute within this family. that led to the tragedy. So the gunman shows up, kills his ex-wife and one of his own kids at the hockey game. Police say three others are in the hospital fighting for their lives. And there really could have been more people that were killed, but a good Samaritan stepped in and tried to take this gunman down. Watch.

42:58 So what I can say right now that we have identified the person, the suspect by a birth name. The birth name was Robert Dorgan. We have also learned that the person does go by the name of Roberta, also uses a last name of Esposito. But again, that will be all confirmed throughout the course of the investigation as to their status, that really doesn't have anything to do with the investigation. Do you have an age? Yeah. What's the age of the suspect? 1969 he was born. Demented dad. So when these killers go and kill people on a daily basis, they're a demented dad.

43:46 Otherwise, they're a woman. No, it's a big fat ugly dude with Nazi tattoos who went and slaughtered his family. And reportedly more have died now. And they're not gonna be able to hide this in extreme proclivity. There is the most dangerous group in FBI statistics by orders of magnitude is trans men to female and they're not really female. That's what they call it. It's just off the charts. Almost every mass shooting is one of these guys now. The next most violent group is black males ages 14 to 25. The vast majority of blacks are not violent, just like the vast majority of trans people aren't, but it doesn't matter. Statistically, they wanna say it's white males commit the majority of crime. White males in a group commit the second lowest level of crime after

44:45 Oriental Asians. And by that they keep calling Pakistanis other Asians and Arabs Asians. They got pretty high crime rates. So, but you just oriental Asians like Chinese, South Koreans, Japanese, very low violent crime rate. So after those people, it's white females and white males. And I don't bring those numbers out, everybody knows those numbers. To be mean to anybody, we're being told that white men are the scourge of the earth. And I guess it's true, trans white men are the most statistically dangerous group. It's like pit bulls. Most people have them, they're really sweet, nice dogs, they're cute. But statistically, they have the highest level of for no reason going crazy and eating your child or just attacking you. I'm not against pit bulls.

45:35 I'm just saying, we know the statistics. But you take people that are already mentally ill, autistic, you name it, or they're just criminals that when they're going to jail, they wanna stay in a women's prison, or they want attention, they wanna grift, there's a whole thing. And you fill them full of hate and everybody's out to get you and you're entitled, you're allowed to do all this. You put them on SSRIs and hormone blockers and all this stuff, and you get some whacked out lunatics, ladies and gentlemen. And That's who they say killed Charlie Kirk. I got a lot of questions about Kirk, but they said he'll be dead tomorrow, a whole bunch of trans people in that town. And then the man who says he's confessed to it, Tyler Robinson, shows up with a trans flag, acting super creepy and evil, doesn't like the boy next door. But regardless, the shooter in Canada, this shooter, all the other shooters, trans. I'm just waiting for people to say, no, no, the Mossad did this too.

46:39 So that's where we are, ladies and gentlemen. And we need to be aware of it. Now, when we come back before Kathy O'Brien joins us, I'm going to air a John Bowne report with the grooming gangs, the Islamic grooming gangs being protected by Keir Starmer for 15 years before he even got into Parliament. He's now the Prime Minister. I mean, this guy is up to his eyeballs in this. And again, it's Rings running children and then all in dozens and dozens more than that towns The families are gonna try to save their 10 year old girls They'd be beaten up the police would come and arrest the dads when cops decided to blow the whistle. They would be fired When girls would run to the police station being right 10 11 years old, they would be arrested for disorderly conduct so That's how this works. Ladies and gentlemen

47:29 And it's Kira Starmer that set all this up. So again, it's all about deviant, sick, evil people who want power over children, power over innocents, predators that get together, get into government, organize, and then have to get out of jail free cards. That is what this is all about. And I have been 100% vindicated, the facts have been vindicated. Ted Gunnarsson has been vindicated. John DeCamp has been vindicated. Kathy O'Brien has been vindicated. We've all been vindicated. We were right and everybody else attacking us was wrong. Megyn Kelly, who I don't want to hate, but my God, she just acts like she's one of us. She surfaced to say none of this is really happening. Just like Maria Baranovich, the big high priest said, this doesn't exist, there is no Satanism. Really? You read the emails? Read the crime reports? It's the satanic panic of the 80s, which was totally real? They tried to recruit me into it for God's sakes.

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57:26 An 11-year-old girl came to the attention of the police after she disclosed that she and another child had been sexually abused by a group of adult males. Just a few weeks later, she was found in a derelict house with another child and a number of adult males. Yet she was arrested, 11 years of age, she was arrested for being drunk and disorderly and none of the males were arrested. Has your force identified the police officers involved in that and found out what went on? I don't know. The veil is lifting on the UK's festering underbelly of nauseating cover-ups where Labour MPs under Keir Starmer's iron grip just slam the door on justice for victims of Muslim grooming gangs.

58:10 The eyes to the right for 111, the nose to the left 364. So the nose have it, the nose have it. Unlock. Labor crushed it, 364 to 111. Back in January 2025, the Tories pushed an amendment to the Children's Wellbeing Bill demanding a national inquiry into the predatory networks that have ravaged thousands of young, mostly white and working class British girls, while whispers of Islamophobia fears and political correctness shielded the perpetrators. But I want to give a special thanks to the APPG on British Muslims for the brilliant work that you do to highlight issues affecting British Muslims and celebrate their achievements. As leader of the Labour Party, I am utterly committed to eradicating Islamophobia from my party,

59:04 And from society. And let's not forget Starmer's own skeletons as director of public prosecutions in 2009. His CPS refused to prosecute serial pedophile Jimmy Savile despite credible allegations citing insufficient evidence. Hundreds more victims suffered while the elite protected their own. How did you get it? I can get anything. There's nothing I can't get and there's nothing I can't do. We should accept that pedophilia is a sexual preference, a thought, a feeling, and not an act. We should differentiate between child sexual abuse and pedophilia. The stats paint a horrifying picture of a nation in denial with police recording 71,227 rapes in 2024 alone, yet charges brought in a pathetic

59:57 2.7% of cases, leaving over 97% of predators walking free. By the year ending in March 2025, sexual offenses spiked to 209,079, a brutal 11% jump from the prior year. And nothing, nothing has shaped my thinking more than our crowdfunded independent inquiry into the Pakistani Muslim rape gangs. An inquiry that should never have had to exist. An inquiry that I created only because the political system itself would not act. That inquiry has been the most sobering experience of my public life. Not just because of the awful crimes, not just because of the horrific suffering,

1:00:55 But because of what it exposed about the way this country is governed. Now zoom out to Scandinavia where the same multicultural madness has turned safe havens into rape hotspots. Sweden tops the charts at 84.4 reported rapes. per 100,000 people, followed by Norway at 42.9. With studies showing 92% of severe rapes in Sweden linked to foreign-born offenders. Yet convictions remain abysmally low. Just 6% in Sweden prosecute adult cases.

1:01:32 Scandinavia's unchecked borders and elite denial breed predators, turning progressive paradises into hellscapes for women and girls, while real men appear to be non-existent. John Bowne reporting for InfoWars. Well, to say that the Great Awakening has gone into warp speed is a understatement. Everything that Kathy O'Brien talked about 30 plus years ago, and detailed and predicted, has now come to pass. Everything Ted Gunnarsson exposed, Everything that this hero CIA agent officer that helped save Kathy O'Brien talked about has been totally proven. And before she came on and asked her to do this, but maybe during the next break, she can pull her book out. Because I had a copy around here, but it tends to disappear. People want to read it. But I've read the book probably five times, Transformation of America. It's one of those evergreen books that gets stronger over time. And the book is how they're planning to beta test it with the Satanism feeding into the CIA and MI6 groups.

1:02:34 and then to externalize it out to everyone and turn us all into satanic predators. And that's how the book ends. I probably haven't read it in 10 years. But I was looking around earlier for the copies on the bookshelf. It's not out there. Or maybe I missed it. Go check again. Because I have a copy here that's all bookmarked, actually. Yeah. And again, I'm not mad at the crew. People want to read that stuff, so they walk off with it. In fact, whoever's got it at home, bring it back. Okay? So, I need to buy a few more, obviously, off our site. I mean, this is like revelation. That's what it is because she went through it. And so I couldn't think of somebody better to join us to give her personal take on what's coming out, but also Trump. Because you have the victim saying no, never saw Trump involved. I already know the groups, organizations, know Trump's, that's not his MO. My job is not to defend Trump. But then to have the DOJ slow roll this, say they released it all in March, didn't. They said over the weekend they had sent a letter to Congress, put out some new stuff, lied. I even bought it. That's rare because the lie was so bold.

1:03:39 And then Trump saying it'll hurt the country if this all comes out. Well, no, it'll hurt the country is he's satanic networks. And now the cannibalism, the Satanism, the torture of babies, the human cloning. Now they've confirmed the Zorro Ranch does have underground bases as was said. It was never raided. New York was, the island was, all that. It's 50 times bigger or more, I mean 100 times, it's 10,000 acres. But we've had Air Force experts, we've looked at it, we look at the Google Maps, they've also flown over now. You see the huge snorkels that are sticking up that you have for underground bases all over the property, just as witnesses and victims said.

1:04:19 And then they've got emails of him talking about buying babies and sending sex slaves to the Hyatt Hotel and all this. And then they've got FBI reports where they're like, yeah, this little girl said they did this 10 years ago. Now she's 20, she was 10 at the time. And her report matches this video we have, but they blocked out the video and the photo. And it's them doing unspeakable things, little girl. This is a family show, but this also needs to be known. And this is one case, there's thousands that I've already seen. A whole bunch of men, she's bloody, her face beat in, bleeding all over her body. And in the photo that they blacked out, a man has forced his arm all the way into her. It's not clear, and she's got her tongue sticking out in pain. This is what we're talking about. I don't like to have to cover this, but people need to understand. Now, Kathie O'Brien, Gunderson said was 100% dead on. And it matched all the stuff we knew from the history. But then everything else that came out that she predicted is incredible.

1:05:20 And it is a testament to the power of God that because I knew her 30 years ago and she had that thousand yard stare and really didn't talk much. You know, the times I was around her at the events we were at, very nice lady, but you could tell she was like, and I would be too. Over the years I've seen her not just come back, but just so well-spoken, glowing, So healed, you could say. And that's her own words. I'll put words in her mouth and I totally agree with her. So just knowing this has traumatized me. And I'm not complaining, I'm just saying, I got three daughters. I mean, I couldn't imagine them going through 1% of this. So, and again, her father is Satanist in a satanic group, then bringing her to the CIA,

1:06:10 and to be the personal servant of Gerald Ford, who we know has connected all this. And then she gets the higher training, the programming, and that's in these emails where, yeah, we sent out the sex slave, the little girl. She got the intel. She misbehaved a little bit, so I tortured her. When you compartmentalize people, they get photographic memories. This is all declassified, by the way, MKUltra. So, Kathy O'Brien joins us. And I want her to go wherever she wants, trans-formation.com during the break. If she's got the book, I've read it many times. I wanted to pull it up, maybe read later, maybe next hour. Because it's like you're reading it, and it's just like, oh my God, this is exactly what happened. This is incredible. Because she's around these people while they're talking about it.

1:06:58 And you've got the ex-wife of Sergei Brin saying, yeah, they collapsed everything on purpose to enslave us with COVID and they're taking over, so I left him. I mean, we have the witnesses to this stuff. And Sergei Brin and Larry Page at Google telling Elon 20 years ago, we don't like humans, we're gonna get rid of everybody. I mean, this is the attitude of these people to do these things. They have tasks to recruit people that will be psychotic or at least sociopathic like them. This is an initiation. So I wanna play a short clip of Trump here. where he talks about, well, I'm not in it, so we need to move on, cuz they're trying to make it about him. No, this is about the victims, and it's about you weren't involved, but now by extension you are. And whether I can look at devil's advocate or whatever, it doesn't matter. This is causing an exodus, and the Democrats who are the ones in all the files are laughing.

1:07:49 And I know, Cathy, you've been a supporter of Trump like I am as well. We've seen they found half the missing kids the Democrats brought in. They shut down the smuggling. They're stopping the transgender stuff. They're stopping the wars. It's great, but it still doesn't matter. I don't believe unless they're two evils, we'll eat your take on it. But here's Trump. I have nothing to hide. I've been exonerated. Yeah, we know that, but it doesn't matter. Your DOJ has covered it up. Here's a clip, we'll get Cathy LeBron's take on that. So Hillary Clinton said in an interview today that she and her husband are getting pulled into the Epstein matter to divert attention from you and that your administration has something to hide. What's your response? I have nothing to hide. I've been exonerated. I have nothing to do with Jeffrey Epstein. They went in hoping that they'd find it and found just the opposite. I've been totally exonerated. In fact, Jeffrey Epstein was fighting that I don't get elected.

1:08:38 with some author, a sleazebag by the way. And I've been totally exonerated. No, no, they're getting pulled in and that's their problem. I don't know, they're gonna have to see what happens. But I watched her in Munich and she seriously has Trump derangement syndrome. Yeah, there's not one email of Trump or his family in there. Michael Wolff, he's talking about it, and there's the third most mentioned, thousands and thousands. They're in there saying, yeah, Trump's innocent, how do we set him up? Epstein, no, he never was with the girls. It doesn't matter Trump, it's not about you. It's about your DOJ covering up 98% of the files. That's my view. Kathy O'Brien, survivor, overcomer. God bless you so much and your faith in Christ and everything that's happened. You're such a story of just defeating evil. And so we salute you. Where do you want to start here?

1:09:31 Well, thank you for having me on it. And with all the truth that is coming out, whether this DOJ can do anything about it or not. The fact is the truth is coming out because the people want it and they're sharing it with each other. So that's the most encouraging thing to me. People are saying, well, all this Epstein information coming out, you must feel vindicated. And it's like, no, not really, because I already knew my own truth. I already knew what the plan was. And I just wish that people had listened to Transformation of America, read the information back in 1995 when it was released.

1:10:12 so that time didn't have to prove it. How many lives have been lost? How many children trafficked and harvested in that process? How much longer are the Clintons going to go free for their crimes against humanity? It's got to stop. We, the people, especially the survivors and the victims, have got to see some justice and It's really gonna be up to all of us. After 35 years of realizing that I'm not gonna see conventional justice because national security was invoked on my case, I have learned that the ultimate justice is positive change through public awareness and it's up to all of us.

1:11:00 President Trump told us that he's returning power to we the people. He has. We are empowered. It's up to us. The system is too corrupt. We have all the evidence. We have all the proof that anybody could could ever need. And we've had it for years. We do not have a justice system to prosecute it through. And the children cannot wait for this system to clean up. They need us to wake up. Share the truth with each other, embrace that reality and know that we can all deal with this situation when we remember who we are, why we're here, align with the divine within, gather that strength of the human spirit and infinite power of love where we naturally unite to protect our children.

1:11:51 It's time. We've been waiting a long time for this, Alex, and it's good to see that people are finally embracing the truth and starting to wake up and take action. That is so profound, and you just hit the nail on the head. People tend to look at this as this or that. And yeah, we want all the files released, and it's sad to see the Trump admin You know, getting involved at some levels in a cover up. But regardless, the 3 million emails, everything else started to come out is so damning. Thousands of emails, delivering the kids, delivering the sex slaves, eating the children. They don't even hide it. Okay, this is devastating. So I've said to Massey and others on air and so has MTG. I think she's coming on next week. Okay, well all these good Congress people, they have access to the unredacted names.

1:12:39 Don't just keep bitching at Trump, you know spend 10% of your time saying release more but with what you've got This is coffin nails these people and whoever's in there go redacted and we've got congressman May saying no well They're now being sent by the DOJ, all the stuff unredacted. So in a way it was true what Monty said Saturday. They said we're unredacting everything and we've released the files. I thought they meant like to the public, it was to Congress. Then I jumped the gun and said, okay, they're lying. They said they released it, they didn't. No, they did, but they said all of it. No, there's 3 million more emails and all the other stuff. So

1:13:20 It's a mess. The point is, you're right. We have 3 million documents. We have 180,000 photos and videos. And they're now public, folks. There was an error on the website. We have to put another code behind it, but you can find it all now. And let me tell you, I've looked at it, only a little bit of it, and each thing is just, it'll give you nightmares. But we have to face this collectively. We have to do it. But you're right. We have to keep putting pressure on Trump. But look at ourselves in the mirror. We now have The absolute mother load of proof against these people and it's everything you talked about now. It's in the book. Gunnarsson used to tell me stuff, you know, not on air. It was too extreme to say.

1:13:59 But I remember Gunderson saying, no, they starve babies so that they can then make them perform fallatio. And then that's Epstein is in there and how they play recordings of the mother so they suck harder. And I know it sounds evil just to even say this, but people need to know. And I know you don't like to talk about the satanic ritual abuse you went through to prime me for the CIA. But I think it's important. I mean, the stuff that's been described that I was told you told Gunderson and when I talked to your partner that saved you, I was told off record some of it, because you guys thought it was too extreme to talk about. The point is when you're reading these emails, when you're seeing this, is this deja vu for you? It's not that it's deja vu, it's just the confirmation of the reality that this has been going on my whole life. But this is exactly what I was told was going on by you and others. Yeah, it's essential that people understand our children are not only being raped,

1:14:57 They're not only being trafficked, they're being harvested. And they have been for a long time because the satanic ritual abuse that I experienced for MKUltra mind control is all well documented and proven. And the Clinton's involvement in it is extensive. The MKUltra files have been declassified now. They have been for over a year. They were declassified in December over a year ago. All that information is right there for anybody to research and see and validate everything that's starting to come out now with the Epstein files. It's important that we understand

1:15:40 how mind control factors into all of this because mind control is a sliding scale from the kind of torturous robotic MK ultra mind control that I experienced on a White House Pentagon level being programmed at various DARPA NASA and military installations by satanic Lieutenant Colonel Michael Aquino, founder of the occult temple, proliferating on military bases that has reached into our society on so many different levels. The satanic aspect is used as a trauma base. When we understand the components of mind control,

1:16:18 whether it's of an individual, a nation, a classroom, a military or the world. Trauma is the basis of it and it was found through Hitler-Himmler research. There's no trauma more horrific on the human mind than sexual abuse of a child prior to age five while the brain is still forming. When we understand how our brains respond to that kind of trauma, then we'll understand that the pedophile agenda is a mind control agenda. And by the way, let me back you up. There are thousands of emails, literally, I've read, we've showed a bunch of them. It's insane. Where MC's talking to behavioral psychologists, all these people about traumatizing children and others to create

1:17:05 Basically the X-Man effect and for those that don't know that's the classifying of children by torturing children It compartmentalizes them and then and then they're able in certain compartments to find Photographic memories you name it and then it creates these little super agent servants not just for sex But spying on people and the child could come back and report back an entire dinner meeting word for what was said That's what you wrote about your book. You were trained for that, correct? I mean you were sent out as an agent as an operative Absolutely, absolutely. I worked on a White House Pentagon level throughout my victimization. The satanic aspect in the Hitler Himmler research, that is the second most horrific trauma on the human mind because it violates everything sacred within us and it violates our

1:17:49 our capacity to understand that we have all the power and they only have as much power as we give them or let them steal. It makes us feel like it's beyond our realm to affect when in fact it is. We've got this saving grace, we've got the victory within us all. And we need to remember all that. But the information on our own mind brain function that is our defense against mind control that details what happens in the human mind to create a heightened suggestibility, a compliant society when sexual abuse of children is allowed to proliferate to this extent. When we understand all that was buried under national security

1:18:36 When we imported the Nazi and fascist scientists into the US with Project Paperclip, with them came that formula for mind control. And right thereafter, the 1947 National Security Act went into place. to cover up information on our mind brain function because knowledge is our defense against mind control. They don't want us to have our own birthright knowledge. They don't want us. Explaining that knowing of the enemy and its plan, then you have to resistance. And instead it doesn't even, it makes you even stronger once you're aware of it. To be clear, you're right. They took the Nazi.

1:19:12 They called it mind war program, they thought it was the best and used it. But under British intelligence going back to the 1850s, they developed what they called mind war, the Nazis kind of copied it, where they found similar systems but not as good as the Nazis. And that's why Sigmund Freud and his nephew, Edward Bernays and others, they were heavily pushing pedophilia publicly and mind control as well, but through more of a group brainwashing. Yeah, Mind War, that is also the book that Lieutenant Colonel Michael Aquino wrote. And it is the psychological warfare on humanity that's unfolding today. It's the satanic ritual abuse. It's the sexual abuse and harvesting of our children. It's the trauma that's affecting the whole nation while this continues to go forward.

1:20:02 forward with no justice. You know, so that is being further traumatic in itself. But Michael Aquino wrote that book with General Bailey, who is on the board of directors of Turning Point USA. You know, so we're seeing infiltration, we're seeing far reaching effects and we all need to wake up and start facing the facts of what mind control is all about. what the mind war, psychological warfare, the trauma that we're all experiencing is all about. And when we have that knowledge, that's our defense against mind control, then we evolve with that knowledge and we don't comply with it anymore. Then we take back our own power.

1:20:50 Then we realize it is up to us. It's up to, it always has been. Each and every one of us, each and every individual needs to reclaim their free thought, free will, soul expression, so they can gather that strength of human spirit and the infinite power of love. Because in that regard, the mind control that's being used is a spiritual battle. It's a spiritual warfare on all of us because they're using mind control to keep us from going within and realizing that we have that strength of the human spirit to remember who we are and why we're here. And that's the plan, and that's why they're using mind control. Absolutely. Just to be clear, you as a child, an ongoing

1:21:42 You were part of Satanic rituals where children were killed. Yes. It's important for the record, I know it's hard for you to talk about, but people need to know. Can you just briefly, like, your earliest memories or what you saw? Oh, absolutely. I mean, that, not only that, but I think it's important to know that the Satanism was in infiltrated by the CIA for the purposes not only of using it as a trauma base, but also for harvesting the tortured blood of the victims, particularly children. And that was the precursor to adrenochrome. The fact that Satanists drank blood was the precursor to it. And Hillary Clinton

1:22:27 was actively involved in 1977 that I know of, and the trafficking of that. adrenalized blood, and that is the kind of murder that I witnessed. So that that was put into what Bill Clinton had already established as the CIA's cocaine operation, the MENA cocaine operation. She was using the satanic blood aspects. So she was involved in human trafficking, child sex trafficking, but above all, child harvesting, for the adrenochrome all the way back in 1977. The horrors that I have seen are unconscionable, they're inexcusable. Were you told by people you worked with under the operation? Or did you ever see Hillary engage in any of this?

1:23:17 Yeah, I was exposed to Hillary in the 70s, in the late 70s and throughout my MK ultra victimization. Wow, if you don't mind, please tell us that because I remember a text Mars had this huge library. This was pre-internet. He showed me all these news clippings like AP about one time Al Gore gets off an airplane and a small refrigerator falls and bust open full of bags of blood. And there are other witnesses that he literally doesn't just do IVs, he drinks it. That's been in the news. I mean, at Thomson Reuters, you'll probably find it with a Lexus Nexus search. Kathy O'Brien, our guest, stay with us. We've got to get to a point where we are self-sufficient again, Texas. And when it comes to health, also food, our food needs to be clean, number one. It just needs to be clean. Florida has pointed out

1:24:05 put that back on screen all these major brands have got like you know Matt hundreds of times a glyphosate you should have absolutely your doctor tells me that does oh this is gonna this is gonna change your brain this is going to set you up it erases your blood-brain barrier oh yeah so it's really an accelerant or an adjuvant absolutely everything in there it destroys the blood-brain barrier so that's a protective thing that happens between The cerebral spinal fluid and your fluids inside the brain and the things that attack it from the outside. Once that barrier is depleted, then it's subject to all kinds of heavy metals, things that get sprayed from the sky, right? Barrier.

1:24:41 aluminum, all these things that it protects you from. Methylene blue works. It counters that. Let me ask you that. 45 minutes in, you feelin' it, Doc? Yeah, I feel pretty good. Be honest, though. You got your own special brand. Is this good? This is the same effect I'm getting, but it feels right. It feels right. A little easier to take. Buy easier, what do you mean? Just in the way it feels, just going down, drinking it. So this one tastes better, but it's as good as the one your doctor made? Yeah. Wow, so your doctor must have a good one. We'll see. We'll go down the road a little ways, I'll text you.

1:25:19 Guys, get him a couple bottles of this. I need Doc Chambers endorsing this. I'm not getting it for free, but I'll definitely help. No, you're getting it down. Oh, come on. Free your blood. Look at... It's amazing. Powered by methylene blue. Ultra methylene blue. At the Alex Jones store. Unlimited populous! Now, I'm not going to recap all my intel on Hillary that's public.

1:25:58 But she was the head person against Nixon, again, connected to David Rockefeller just like Epstein. She then, when her first job as a lawyer, was sent to Hot Springs to cover up the mafia that was based there out of Chicago, raping kids. In one case, an 11-year-old girl grabbed her off the bicycle, raped her, destroyed her cervix with a broomstick. And then there's audio of her bragging that she knew that they raped her, but she got them off. Day one, and of course her dad was the number two to Daley in the mafia in Chicago. And so this is a monster of monsters. And then the clip can never be found because it's pre-internet, like pre like video clips. It was like 1993, Bill Clinton had just been elected. David Rockefeller was at the White House visiting, and this is an exact quote. And somebody out there could probably find this or you can go to TV Archive place and buy it, we should. He goes,

1:27:01 Back when I was in high school going to that private school, David Rockefeller came to visit and he pulled me aside and said I could be president one day and I started working with him. And I just want to say there were only two people thought I'd ever be president. That was my mama and David Rockefeller. So thank you, David Rockefeller. Now that's an exact quote. The fact that he worked for Rockefeller's on record, but we now know Epstein was brought to the Trinitle Commission to serve under Rockefeller, the head of it. And when Rockefeller couldn't make the decision, couldn't be there, he'd send Epstein. So David Rockefeller is right at the center of this. So let's go there. I mean, I remember you 30 years ago were naming names going through it. Who are the world leaders you were working for? The Pentagon is a very young girl. You go out of the Satanism as the feeder group into the MKUltra. How much of that do you remember?

1:27:51 Then the programming, then you're going around, you were saying you directly saw Hillary Clinton involved. Cuz now we have these thousands of emails about all the jerky and the jerky's being delivered and we're isolating it and it's in the freezer and we're sending it to labs. And man, we're gonna get off this jerky diet, it's all we've been eating. And then we have Woody Allen and all of them, come on, no, these are kids. They're eating flesh, they're grinding up the bones for roughage, or for fiber in the guts. I mean, this is hell world. It's not even coded. They're like one piece of pizza for seven people. It's glowing. It loves it. You're going to really enjoy it. The Podesta emails, WikiLeaks, we're living the seven, nine and 11 year old to the hot tub for your pleasure, for your entertainment and the Aleister Crowley stuff. I mean, it's just unspeakable. So it's important to this on record. Okay. Cause I know you talked about this decades ago, but if you can specifically, you were talking about Hillary Clinton. I know there's a lot you can say, but

1:28:49 Who do you want to get on record here of what you witnessed and who was involved? Thank you, Kathy O'Brien. The Clinton Chronicles had told a story about the two boys murdered on the railroad track. You might remember that back in the day, Alex. And Wayne Cox, my handler at the time, was involved in that. He was working the CIA cocaine operations for Bill Clinton and had a cult satanic Coven with Roger Clinton, which was Bill Clinton's half brother. And they were the ones who were working that.

1:29:32 those operations when the kids were killed on the railroad track. That's their MO. That was part of it all. And no matter how many times the information starts to come out, it gets covered right back up. But Roger Clinton was heavily involved in the satanic aspect and the precursor to the adrenochrome right there with Wayne Cox, running it for Hillary Clinton because that was her her faction of it. So all that was going on, this was back when Bill Clinton was Attorney General of Arkansas, before he was even governor, before he was president. I mean, this goes back that far. These roots of corruption are so deep that we've got to understand how deep they go in order to effectively uproot them all.

1:30:22 As soon as a little bit of truth comes out, you know, we got the Epstein files released. What do we get, Alex? Were you predicting it? A shooter. Of course we have to have a trans shooter. another one and and that trauma will just be all over the news to divert people away from the information that was coming out. We need to get the information out and then go to the deep, deep roots of it all. What do you make of the trans shooter confirmed threatening basically my life the day before he did this? Well, the trans shooters are, you know, it was decided back at Bohemian Grove, the old Bohemian Grove days, George Bush was talking about how if they lost control over the population with mind control, then they would reduce our numbers to a much more manageable size. So the shooters are part of that

1:31:25 By the way, you wrote that 20 years before as a big Brzezinski to the Canadian CFR said the same thing He said we can no longer put the quote. We can no longer manage people propaganda. We just have to kill everybody Yeah, and he said if that doesn't work that they'll destroy the planet We're watching so much of that happen in real time right now And this has been I've had this information released since 1995. So I'm I'm I'm hoping that more and more of it will come to light so that we realize that this plan does not need to unfold. It's already not unfolding the way they want it to. They're getting frantic. The transgender movement is a pedophile agenda with the depopulation agenda attached to it.

1:32:10 Look back on Gerald Ford's cabinet and who he had in it and what he was doing. Gerald Ford had Henry Kissinger in his cabinet and they wrote the first depopulation agenda. That's public record. Anybody can research that for themselves and see that. We'll see how how much of the corruption was rooted all the way back then. He had Rockefeller as his vice president. He had Dick Cheney in his cabinet. Dick Cheney is one of the most violent, horrific abusers that has ever been in the United States.

1:32:49 Ever been just horrible horrible George Bush senior. Well for those who don't know how do you spend a little time? What you personally know about change has been confirmed by others. He likes to beat people to death pretty much Dick Cheney, yes He's absolutely brutal and he uses the most dangerous game of human hunting. I was hunted by him when I was 17. That was the first time in Jackson Hole, Wyoming at his place there and hunted numerous times after. That most dangerous game is a trauma base

1:33:27 for mind control, especially on a high level. By the way, that's now coming out of these documents and others about elites literally hunting people at places like that. Absolutely. And it's to create a sense that there's no place to run and no place to hide. Since many do die, many are killed, you never know if you're going to survive it or not. So you do everything. You're told as though your life depends on it because it does. That's the programming. And Dick Cheney was very much a part of all that. And these deep roots of corruption are something that we need to realize have been a strong basis of mind control, not only for individuals like me, but for our nation as a whole. Because Gerald Ford is the one who covered up the Kennedy assassination. That's when these perpetrators, this globalist agenda, this dark negative energy force that's in

1:34:26 raping our children and using drug and human trafficking across open borders to fund their agenda. That's when they took over. And it was a horrific a horrific trauma to the whole nation. Again, trauma is a basis of mind control and that trauma traumatized the nation and it's when they took over. Anyone questioning the one bullet theory was called a conspiracy theorist. They were shamed for questioning the repetitive media narrative. Look in the

1:35:01 in Gerald Ford's cabinet again, and he had Jack Vellini, head of the Motion Picture Association of America as his press secretary. Jack Vellini is the one who gave us the term conspiracy theory of anyone questioning the media narrative because he controlled the media narrative. He had a very high position of power over everything that was emanating out of Hollywood, and we know what a pit of this history is important. I want you wherever you want, but I want to speak what you're saying is I totally agree with you. The great awakenings here. They're in panic mode. They admitted even at their Munich conference, CFR meetings, bilateral meetings, WF meetings. And I get from my level sources and I've met off record with some to the top people who aren't implicated in this, but are very famous, very well known. And a lot of them have obviously broken with them publicly, you know, had Elon Musk on things. I'll leave it at that. He definitely knows about this as fighting it.

1:35:57 So so this is all being basically separated out right now How would you describe where the globalist are with a satanic network is right now? And what do you think they're gonna do to strike back? They've lost control. They've we've already passed critical mass We passed critical mass 2016 when so many people were awake and aware that the sheer numbers of us overrode the rigged electronic algorithm the voting machines and to elect a president that was not Hillary Clinton and the New World Order. People knew better all the way back in 2016, and the numbers have grown dramatically since then. Those electronic voting machines have been rigged since their inception to place

1:36:40 key people in positions of power and influence who were part of the globalist agenda, they went into place in the wake of the Kennedy assassination. George Bush and Dick Cheney owned Diebold. They had huge stock in Diebold, the original electronic voting machines. We need to look back on all that and realize that they're playing the same game. The thing is so many people are awake and aware of it now that they're losing their grip. They're in the last the last ditch efforts now. They went all in 2020 with mind control masked as a virus on the whole global population. And all it ended up ultimately doing is waking up people more because everyone got a taste of mind control and realized that they had complied against their will with an adverse agenda and are seeing the horrific effects of it. And they declassified that MI6-CIA, all of them worked together to quote, terrorize the public. It's declassified.

1:37:38 And as you said in your book 31 years ago, if they start losing, they will depopulate, meaning a virus. My concern is that COVID was a beta test. Now that they're so cornered, I think they may release something far worse. Well, they also are other components of mind control are sleep, food and water deprivation. People are working nine to five, five to nine to put food on the table that has no nutritional value. It's being genetically altered and bioengineered to deliberately starve our brains. Mind control shuts down neuron pathways, whether it's trauma or starvation, lack of sleep,

1:38:17 because look at the NRCM card that was a CIA connected Epstein operation. It used sleep and food deprivation on all these rich women and now we have it tied into the Abercrombie and Fench guys. They were running the male slaves all tied in with Les Wexner, the controller of Epstein. And so in general, because I want to break some major Epstein news with you that just broke. We've already foreshadowed but now confirmed and then take calls and ignore it anywhere you want. But just in general, what do you make of Epstein and him working directly for David Rockefeller as his stand in the Trilateral Commission? This wasn't known until recently, this is confirmed. How important is David Rockefeller? Were you asking me about Epstein? Because- Who is in general, who Epstein was, the networks and people keep asking.

1:39:09 me and everywhere, who's the next Epstein? The networks, the drag queen story time, the transgenderism, the sexualization of children all over TV, Nickelodeon. They've gone, as you said in your book 31 years ago, with the CIA guy that helped you write it, we just talked about him, an incredible patriot, that Mr. Phillips, that they would be externalized and that they're trying to make us all Epstein. Speak to that, because you said that in your book and back then that was completely novel. That's confirmed now. Well they're not making us like them because we're not like them. They're a dark negative energy force that feed off a low vibration like they are. What the ultimate end goal is for them is to dumb us down so far that they can align us with artificial intelligence.

1:39:58 Artificial intelligence is flat, linear thinking like their criminal minds. And they're trying to lower our vibration. Having been deep in the swamp with these perpetrators, Alex, I know that their greatest fear is the strength of the human spirit and the infinite power of love. We've got a great awakening going on. We've got a mental evolution and a spiritual evolution. It's game over. We win as soon as we remember who we are, why we're here, and gather our strength of spirit, unite in love for our children, and raise our vibration up

1:40:34 out of their reach because they cannot reach us at a high vibration. And that's our victory. We have the victory. You're absolutely right. But it's like Terminator Skynet's beaten. So it's a Terminator back to the past to try to stop us. I agree. And so then to watch Trump say, it'll destroy America, it's too horrible. You're not stopping at Trump. And I get like overall, he's got Kennedy and they're getting the poison out and stopping the shots. And you think Trump's good, now overall do, and you're a top well known certified victim and overcomer of this. So I really respect you on that. And so that goes into my calculus here. And I agree, we shouldn't just spend all our time bitching about Trump. How about the Democrats are actually doing it in the files and how about we get Congress

1:41:20 As MTG said, she's out now. Okay, well you've got it unredacted, start releasing the damn names. You got a bitch about Trump, say release the rest, great. But also, let's see Massey and all the rest of you start releasing it now. By the way, I don't know how they did it, I guess AI. I saw this clip on C-SPAN 25 years ago or longer with David Rockefeller. There were only two people that thought I could be president, my mom and David Rockefeller. And in the whole documentary about it, I remember seeing it, He described how Rockefeller came to his school, picked him out. It turned out his mother was a prostitute, it's been confirmed. And that the governor, Rockefeller's, his brother was it, was actually his dad. So it was a family thing. This is all even in the newspapers in Arkansas if you don't know about it.

1:42:06 But the crew, I haven't asked yet how they found it, I'm guessing AI. They found the clip. They say it's a clip. We'll see if it's the exact clip I'm looking for. Cuz I remember it, cuz at the time, I would tape stuff that I've, listeners would mail it to me. And so I think I taped it on C-SPAN, I had it on a VHS, I lost it. So I probably played this like 50 times back at the time. But I remember Clinton was still in office. He was thanking David Rockefeller. Let's see if they found the clip. Here it is. Rockefeller is a name that resonates throughout American history. It means not only private success and wealth, but also an abiding sense of public responsibility. David Rockefeller is the standard bearer of this family and this tradition, for making unprecedented commitments to biomedical research, to sending tens of thousands of retired executives, all volunteers, to developing nations in need of advice and skills. In every region of the world, heads of state seek his counsel.

1:43:12 But whether he is addressing the King of Spain or a fellow beetle collector he meets by chance, he treats everyone with exactly the same impeccable courtesy and respect as I learned when I met him a good while before anyone but my mother thought I could become president. David Rockefeller is a gentleman, a statesman, a scholar. And most important, a genuine humanitarian of the likes our nation has rarely seen. Commander, read the citation. The President of the United States of America awards this Presidential Medal of Freedom to David Rockefeller. Through his extensive humanitarian efforts to promote world peace, David Rockefeller has worked to improve lives both at home and abroad.

1:44:04 Building on his family's tradition of charitable giving, he has generously supported a wide range of educational, cultural, health, and urban renewal programs. As co-founder of the International Executive Service Corps, he has recognized the duty and responsibility of the private sector to a world in need. Yeah, that's Corporal Will Garmus. Let's stop there. Great job of the crew. It was Thomas Siska who found it. I guess he said it before, no, no. It's like a documentary about Rockefeller comes to school, picks him out, and then puts him on the fast track to the CIA, which they meant Clinton was CIA. And he says, there were only two people thought I could be president within in high school, my mom and David Rockefeller. So thank you, David Rockefeller. But it's okay, you guys found him saying the same thing, just not the exact clip. So see, I don't make stuff up, folks. So, so, so, so, so, Kathie O'Brien, please continue.

1:44:53 Well, Bill Clinton is such a liar anyway. We expect him to lie, so that was no credibility to his opinion of Rockefeller there. I think it's really important for all of us to realize that identifying these criminals, and I've had to deal with this after waiting 35 years for justice against the Clintons, To know that someone like Hillary Clinton is still around free to do anything she wants to our children is just absolutely atrocious. And a reminder to each and every one of us everywhere that it's up to us

1:45:32 to protect our children. It's up to us to make the difference. It's up to us to be the difference that we need to see in the world because we can't wait any longer for these criminals to be stopped and locked up. And as soon as one of them is locked up, someone else will take over unless we understand the agenda, unless we realize that it's our need to protect our children that The sexual abuse of children is not a perversion. It is not okay in any way whatsoever. When we research our own mind brain function and understand what that sexual abuse does to the human brain, it shuts down our brilliant minds. It shuts down our birthright to be brilliant and live the love we are, to be able to think free for ourselves. It shuts all that down.

1:46:25 we'll out think them and create a beautiful free society. That's why they want to dumb down trauma based system. We're going to go to break, come back. I've got this big Zorro Ranch news. It's massive underground bases, you name it. This is so huge. I want to get your take on this. Kathy O'Brien, former MK Ultra, satanic ritual abuse survivor, wrote the book Transformation for America 31 years ago, all documented. People go to trans-formation.com. They should all get the book. You're on X at real Kathy O'Brien. You're insane if you don't read it. By the way, I keep asking, can you, maybe you're in the break, flip to the book and just, cause I remember reading, I mean, I read the book probably five times and I had a copy and obviously can't find it. Were you, were you guys, you and your co-author get into how they were beta testing it to roll it out on everybody? That's so important. We'll come right back to you in about two minutes. And I'm going to open the phones up too next hour to take a few phone calls. You good for that, Kathy?

1:54:20 survivor and an overcomer out there. In this segment, where do you want to go? Other angles you think people should know about what's happening right now? I think it's extremely important for people to know about the vast number of survivors that are emerging and talking about MKUltra Mind Control. There's so many who are finally feeling vindicated that the information's starting to come out. And there's just a lot that People need to hear from the

1:54:55 The vast numbers, they're surviving these days. Back when Mark Phillips rescued me out of MKUltra Mind Control, it was very rare that anybody survived. And I was extremely fortunate to survive because I was to be killed at Bohemian Grove in one of their rituals and be burned alive in order to die in front of these global perpetrators to make them feel like I died with their secrets. Instead, Mark Phillips, brilliant, brilliant intelligence insider, working the highest levels of intelligence, mind sciences to preserve the sanctity of free thought, had reached in and lifted me out of that victimization in order that we could start

1:55:43 exposing what was going on. And he saved my life from certain demise at Bohemian Grove. He intercepted me right in between. And I'm so fortunate he did and that I was able to heal. It's within us all to heal. And mental health has been deliberately taught wrong. It's time that people realize that and would that we have been blessed with the resiliency within us. The methods Mark taught me are in PTSD, time to heal. Everyone everywhere can apply these easy to self-apply methods to themselves and heal from any level of trauma.

1:56:22 abuse, fear, control, even media manipulation to reclaim our free thought, free will, to be able to expand our thinking beyond what we think we know because our knowledge base has been deliberately altered and we have been taught wrong. We all need to expand our thinking. PTSD, time to heal, shows us how. And I'm forever grateful that Mark Phillips was able to release this information by helping me so that I could share the information from an inside perspective so that others too can heal. This information has reached so many, the survivors are healing. And it's the most important part is that knowing that all these children who have been trafficked

1:57:11 The vast numbers who are being rescued right now can be helped. They can heal just like I did because we've got that resiliency of body, mind and spirit. After 30 years of torturous, robotic MKUltra mind control, I was able to not only reclaim my free thought, but also to reclaim my joy, my inner peace, my life's purpose, to be able to live the love I am and continue bringing this message forward because we all need it these days.

1:57:47 What we're seeing isn't new. What's new is that we're finally seeing it. And as we see it, rather than let it overwhelm us, let it empower us by reclaiming our birthright to live the love we are, to remember who we are, why we're here, and take a stand now for the children's sake. It's up to us. We can't wait on this system to clean up. It's up to each and every one of us to do it, and we have within us the capacity for us. We have the victory within us. It's time to shine that and eradicate this darkness once and for all.

1:58:29 I want to come back and give the number out. I want to get into this huge, it's all huge. This Zorro Ranch stuff is huge and I can confirm what's in here from our separate sources. But it's all, there's a lot of investigators on this now that are very respected. Underground bases, what the witnesses said. All right, we're about to break major breaking news on the Zorro Ranch. It was never searched by the feds, which was 10,000 acres plus Huge facility, victim said facilities underground. They talk about underground facilities in the emails, underground facilities also at the pedophile island, Little St. John's, but the feds never went in there. There's a big scandal brewing with that now, with folks running for high office in Texas to now own it. Helicopter pads, you name it, there's a whole secret government complex nearby. This is a big deal.

1:59:26 But Kevin O'Brien, before we go there, let's talk about Mark Phillips that saved you and who co-authored the book with you. Because Gunnarsson, who I totally trusted, he was tapped even whenever J. Edgar Hoover died to try to be the Nixon wanted him as the FBI director because he was a good guy, but they blocked it. He was the head of the LA operation. He'd run major operations for the FBI called Telpro. So he was an insider. And he said your stuff was dead on, but reading your book now, the last time I did it, it all came true. So yeah, there's Mark Phillips. He died in 2017. Tell us about Mark Phillips, what an interesting and amazing person he was and how he was able to save you. Mark Phillips was working the highest levels of intelligence, mind sciences to preserve the sanctity of free thought. He's an absolute hero to us all in his lack of tolerance for the criminal activities. He was CIA, that's been confirmed. So you're saying there are good guys in there too?

2:00:24 Well, he was a spook. He was CIA, FBI, NSA. Exactly. Real spooks are in it all, for people that don't know. Yeah, he was CIA, NSA, Secret Service, anything he needed to be at any time. Did he tell you how he got recruited and how he woke up and how he did what he did? Because you read the book, I mean, it all came true. It's just pure genius. All right, we just lost her feed.

2:01:04 Yeah, I mean, I had dinner with these guys, doing well, interviewed them many times and all the big insiders, they said, no, this is real, this is dead on. And I mean, you read the book now, I'm not trying to, I'm not even getting money for selling the book, she didn't even ask me to sell it. I'm just like, I gotta read it again because it's just like, my God, this is all getting true. And I don't know if during the break, she actually pulled the book out to read those passages. There's like whole chapters on how it's transformation of America, it's a transformation of everything. Sorry, we lost your connection. Did Mark ever get into how he got recruited or why he broke away or what happened? He was a spook, so he wore every hat. He was extremely high up in intelligence and was in and out of the White House. And when he saw children being trafficked, he decided to do something about it. And that's when he lifted my daughter and me right out of the Washington, D.C., human trafficking swamp. By the way, that's what Larry Nichols, highly decorated Green Beret Vietnam, high level security in Iran country and at MENA, he finally had to come to Jesus moment

2:02:07 and literally fell down on his knees when he found out that they were hurting children. He's dead now, but he was on record the Clinton's main fixer, really their handler. And so it shows there's good people in the system. We're not defending the system. But Larry Nichols said the same stuff. He said, I can't get into it, Alex. But when I learned they were trafficking kids, and look, my uncle was an Iran-Contra, highly decorated helicopter pilot, Vietnam. And then he got recruited, and he was just building airfields and running airfield operations and communications. But he was the guy, he was world champion at a, At one point in Morse code, and even back then they did Morse code back to the White House. He was reporting to Bill Barr, we now know, who was the head of the operation, at least the liaison for Bush. He was hiding it from Reagan. But just side issue, he told me a little bit about it, told my mom some of it, but when he was dying of pneumonia, before they put him on a ventilator, now 12 years ago,

2:03:05 William Forrest Hammond was his name. He said, listen, I did things in Vietnam. He told me this stuff and he said, I did the things for the unjustified means. But he said there came a time when it was so bad that I had to leave and I had to get out of it. And a bunch of stuff happened. But the point was, I said, what was it? He said, they were running orphanages of little kids in Central and South America and flying kids out. He goes, we don't know where, but it was bad. And then a bunch of guys in Army Special Operations, the side of the CIA went public. They that killed the guy under him, shot them both up. He got shot up. I remember picking him up at the Air Force Base in Dallas when I'm a little kid and like in a stretcher where he was shot up. But the point was is that this is the point of there's a soul out there and there's good people that we stand on their shoulders. Sorry, get back into Mark Phillips, I apologize.

2:03:58 Absolutely. Oh, there are. There's good people everywhere. And I certainly was the last to believe it when Mark rescued my daughter and me. I didn't know good people even existed in the world anymore. It was I didn't even know how to how to trust that there could be anything good. But my brain knew I was safe and the neuron pathway started opening up and I began remembering it as quickly as I did. He began remembering the things I'd been tortured to forget. Mark told me to write him out. He said, the pen is mightier than the sword. The pen activates the, that when you move a pen, it activates the logic, critical analysis part of the brain. It's where we process information. Explain, that's what studies, but he didn't come out, but he was right then. It bypasses the emotions and goes right to the actual memory.

2:04:48 It shifts the emotionally incomprehensible that's been repressed, opens neuron pathways to move it over to conscious, where it's written out on paper, consciously seen, and all of a sudden healing happens, psychiatrically, psychologically, emotionally, spiritually. It's such an important aspect of our brain function that we have taken writing by hand out of the school system in order to indoctrinate the children. If we get writing by hand back in the school system, that alone will stop the indoctrination. But as I wrote out this memory, he was handing it to his friends in intelligence and in law enforcement. He was handing it over to people in the CIA, the NSA, the FBI. And above all, we had

2:05:37 William Von Raab back in the day. I don't know if you remember Von Raab, he was head of US Customs. He was in the same position that Tom Holman is now and the media went after him with everything they had because he was exposing the drug and human trafficking across open borders. He was exposing the Clintons. He was exposing all of the horrors that were going on. I mean, what an amazing, What an amazing person he was. But there were so many good people that genuinely cared all the way back then. And Mark Phillips was one of them and he is the one that led my daughter and me to freedom. Well, we saw the Democrats ship out a half million kids, even New York Times admitted many sex slavery, slave labor. They've now

2:06:26 I don't even need to believe you. My uncle, incredible guy, Mr. America, Boy Scout, told me this stuff and I knew what he did. I know what he was involved in. I know the details. And he said, no, it's all true. And I remember him actually talking about you because he would listen to the show and he said, no, all that stuff, it's all real. And he wasn't like directly, they just ran airfield. So there's guys reporting back, Hey man, they're loading kids out and flying them out of here. We're tracking anything good. And even then, you know, so, so, and he said, he goes, there comes a point where you incrementally go along with stuff. Cause we're the good guys. We got to bend it to win.

2:07:12 And then you finally go, no, we've become the bad guys. You got to say no. I think Trump needs to get to that point and just understand he's got to go to full war. He can't just get rid of the bad guys behind the scenes, which he's shutting down. And then, oh, but it's so damaging to put this out. It'll hurt America's faith and credit. Other governments, Europe's even worse than we are. This is a worldwide system. Did you agree with me that just Trump needs to just release it all? Absolutely. And as people wake up I'm sure more and more is going to come out. You know in my experience when I was working in the 80s in the Reagan Bush administration Bush and the Clintons everyone that I knew feared Trump back then because he was already adamantly opposing

2:07:54 The MK Ultra slaves like myself being run out of the State Department. He was disgusted with the drug and human trafficking across open borders and the sexualization of children. They were scared of him because they couldn't blackmail him, mind control him, because he had the knowledge that's our defense against mind control. They couldn't coerce him, they couldn't buy him off. He had his own money. They couldn't blackmail him. He wasn't given- Even the heads of the mafia have gone public and said that he was the only guy they couldn't buy off. Right, right, exactly. Plus that's Trump's MO to let no one run him. Like that's why it came out it was fake, that he flew to Russia to be peed on by hookers, as if Trump is, as if he would do that and be compromised. Trump is all about he's in control.

2:08:38 Yeah, absolutely. And that was so well known among these people back then that they feared him. So that was my experience in knowing about President Trump then. And then after- Well, did you ever hear about Trump when you were in the project, in the program or after? Yeah, they feared him. Absolutely, they feared him. And not only that- Well, elaborate on that. Elaborate on that. Let's know more. Well, there was one particular operation where I was dropped off at one of Trump's casinos in Atlantic City, New Jersey to meet with Phil Habib. It was about a drug operation and everything. And I was told by my handler when he dropped me at the door.

2:09:24 that if Trump, that I was not to speak to him because if I had anything to do with Trump, they would kill me. That was just, it was do or die. They said, he's not one of us. If I was told they're not one of us, that meant if I had any association at all, I would be killed. So it was do or die. I mean, that's how much they feared him. And that was my experience at that time. It was also my experience with Mark Phillips over those many, many years that he and I were together speaking out on mind control and healing from it. that it was understood that politics can't fix this problem for us, government can't fix it for us. It's gonna take each and every one of us waking up. The Great Awakening had to happen. And by the way, I'm getting chills. We gotta find out what it is with you.

2:10:16 I've been with you for 30 years. You said this 30 years ago and Mark said it. You said it won't be the system, it's too corrupt, it's got to be us and now it's happening. It's like I'm so blown away right now because I, wow, wow. Yeah, and I mean, now we hear Pam Bondi say it'll collapse the system, and I'm going, collapse it! It's so corrupt. The only people it's serving are the Clintons, the criminals, the perpetrators. It is not serving we, the people. It's locking up people like Tina Peters. It's locking up the innocent, and it's thrusting children back into a corrupted so-called child protective services. Maybe we can pull this up, but Hillary said yesterday, guys, I wanted to,

2:09:24 that if Trump, that I was not to speak to him because if I had anything to do with Trump, they would kill me. That was just, it was do or die. They said, he's not one of us. If I was told they're not one of us, that meant if I had any association at all, I would be killed. So it was do or die. I mean, that's how much they feared him. And that was my experience at that time. It was also my experience with Mark Phillips over those many, many years that he and I were together speaking out on mind control and healing from it. that it was understood that politics can't fix this problem for us, government can't fix it for us. It's gonna take each and every one of us waking up. The Great Awakening had to happen. And by the way, I'm getting chills. We gotta find out what it is with you.

2:10:16 I've been with you for 30 years. You said this 30 years ago and Mark said it. You said it won't be the system, it's too corrupt, it's got to be us and now it's happening. It's like I'm so blown away right now because I, wow, wow. Yeah, and I mean, now we hear Pam Bondi say it'll collapse the system, and I'm going, collapse it! It's so corrupt. The only people it's serving are the Clintons, the criminals, the perpetrators. It is not serving we, the people. It's locking up people like Tina Peters. It's locking up the innocent, and it's thrusting children back into a corrupted so-called child protective services. Maybe we can pull this up, but Hillary said yesterday, guys, I wanted to,

2:10:59 Hillary put out a thing saying, we're never involved with Epstein when they set up their foundation with him on record, publicly, it's in the emails too, and it's all Trump. What do you make of her statement? What do you say to her? It's just diversionary. The media, it follow the money, is owned by these perpetrators and that's their media voice. It's like we pull back the wizard's curtain and we find out there's only a handful of them pulling levers to appear to be more of them than they are. And that is the media voice created Trump derangement syndrome. That is mass mind control and it's deliberately done to keep people wondering and looking over there. They don't want anybody looking at them. They don't want anybody seeing their corruption, even though it's right there in black and white. And by the way, you talk about victimology for 30 years and I didn't even get what you were saying. Don't be a victim, don't be a victim.

2:12:01 But when you get a victim, you can't overcome, you can't analyze, you get in a catatonic fetal position psychologically instead of, no, I'm fighting back. Your body's geared up to get the info, overcome it and defeat it. We're not wimps, folks. God built us powerful. But if we just lay down, we'll never learn. And we're going to get our ass kicked in some of these fights too, but we get stronger. That which doesn't kill you only makes you stronger to quote Niji. Can you speak to that? Yes our brains have been made perfect. We have so much resiliency. We've been using like 10 percent of our brain. We've been conditioned to that for generations. We've been conditioned to look outside ourselves to big government big pharma big tech big cult to cult religion to tell us how to live our lives.

2:12:45 When we've got so much capacity within us that is unharnessed yet, we haven't even explored these abilities that we have, the intuitions, the telepathy, the heightened senses, the vibrational frequencies, the clairvoyance, the psychic. We have so much more brain capacity than what we're using and instead we're being dumbed down further and further and further by mind control to try to align us with artificial intelligence. When we use our full brains We have the wisdom that out thinks criminal minds. So a victim mentality is being pushed by the media, by mental health, by education, by society. We've been conditioned for so long to maintain this victim mentality so that we follow authority instead of go within to access the brilliance, the resilient body, mind and spirit that we've been

2:13:49 born with, that we've been blessed with all along. So beautiful, so powerful. I get so excited about that. I am too, because people ask me the worst things in my life, they go, how did that turn out to be the best thing later? It wasn't fun at the time, but it made me so much stronger. And because I overcame it, or even I didn't overcome it at the time, I survived it. It's a victory. It made me who I am. Exactly. And then they say, well, this is too much information. You can't handle it. What if they told everybody it's within you to handle it? Go with them. Remember who you are and why you're here and face this truth because our children need us to face it now. We have the ability to deal with all of this. We don't have the capacity to deal with a constant barrage of lies and trauma and mind manipulation that's being imposed to dumb us down. We need to remember

2:14:42 what we've been blessed with, that we're born with so we can effectively protect the children. We need to do it now. That's why God gave us the gear to overcome this. Yes. And that's what Mark Phillips reminded me of. He knew that mind control was the spiritual warfare too. And he reminded me that it's within me to heal. Mark did not deprogram me. Mark reminded me how to heal from within myself. And I share that information with everybody through PTSD Time to Heal. That information is our birthright information. It's what these perpetrators don't want us to remember. They don't want us to remember that we have all the power. And by the way, you and Mark didn't just skate here. They attacked you, they debanked you, they tried to steal your daughter from you. I mean, that's a whole three hours, just what I know, like a James Bond movie. Yes. I mean. Yeah.

2:15:36 Yeah, through those years. I mean, you and I have been at this a long time, Alex, and I know you know I've been through, to hell and back with my daughter's situation. But it was my daughter's situation being medically kidnapped by Child Protective Services, thrust into the corrupt system. I saw Senator Byrd setting up through the Hoover building in Washington, DC. The KKK Grand Dragon. Yeah, yeah. And he set up the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children as a catch net operation. Who they later put the head of the Clinton Foundation convicted pedophile over Amber Alert. Yes. Stay right there. We're almost out of time. I want to give the number out and just take seven, eight calls, whatever serious questions for Kathy O'Brien. What a hero. Her book is so incredible. It was incredible when I read it. It's all been proven right. It's just prophecy basically.

2:16:30 Ladies and gentlemen, Kathy O'Brien, your question or comment for her, the toll free number is 877-789-2539. We'll turn on the phone system. 877-789-2539, 877-789-ALEX, and that's coming up. But let me get into this now, okay? So, we know they raided the island in the Caribbean, Little St. John's. We know, and they covered it up. We know they raided his Newark operation. For best of our knowledge, not the Paris operation, not the other airfield in Ohio or Florida, and not Zorro Ranch 10,000 acres, who the witnesses and victims said had underground bases under it. Well, we've looked at the schematics from Google and already seen the snorkels that in some cases are 1,000 yards out from the house, meaning there's a huge facility under there, okay? Cuz they got these snorkels that are getting air from the top, okay, folks? And so now we have experts looking at it, flying over it, you name it.

2:17:33 And we now have this big politician running for government here, we'll get to after the break. And we have all this starting to come out, and this politician that bought Zora Ranch, well, that's fine. He says he's a Christian, he's returning to a Christian retreat. That's his new thing today, because election's today. But we need to have a public tour. We need to have the Texas Rangers invited over there, because it's a Texan that owns it, to investigate this. Then we'll think you're a good guy, because I'm not saying you guys are bad guys. We'll get to him in a moment. The FBI raided Epstein's New York City townhouse. They raided his private island, but somehow they never touched his 2,000 acre Zorro Ranch in New Mexico, despite victim reports of abuse going on there back to 1996. Even after the 2008 conviction, the state of New Mexico kept leasing him public land like nothing happened. No search warrant, no raid, no questions asked. New Mexico just approved a full investigation with subpoena power. 30 years of looking the other way is finally over. And we've got some reports here

2:18:32 by folks that have flown over it and investigated it. So here is one of those breakdowns we've got to break. Here it is. What I wanted to talk about first is so the Zorro Ranch features prominently in a lot of the Epstein lore. And I first learned about this in 2008. And all the way back in 2008, there was a website that is long since gone now. And it actually changed several times, kind of rapid fire over the course of about three years to different domains and finally got torpedoed. But it was a very simple website. I can't remember the exact URL right now, but it was a very simple website and some of the stuff seemed so outlandish. And it was all just these, just a few paragraphs of text.

2:19:24 Just kind of giving you prompts about just different research topics and a few pictures very simple, but it brought up some really some big stuff like the role of blackmail in a lot of the stuff we were seeing back then. And this was at the point where the Iraq War, people were starting to realize that that was a sham and all that. So it was even pulling at threads there in the Iraq War, showing what was happening there. And it was just different articles about certain topics about elites, and explaining how, and really the term elite is one I'm not a big fan of. I think predator class is probably a better way to put that because these people are not elite. They are not above us in any capacity. But anyway, this website was the first place that I saw Jeffrey Epstein mentioned and all about his, the stuff that he was involved in or at that point rumored to be involved in and that this,

2:20:27 financier or guy, whatever, got arrested down in Florida and got this weird slap on the wrist prison sentence. This is all kind of unfolding in real time. They're posting articles about this. I'm like, holy crap. We'll come back. He gets it now. They iterated it. That's all true. This is from Interesting Books Review. Then we have the flyovers that were just done. That's the big news. Straight ahead. We'll come back with Kathy O'Brien on that. Dr. Lindsey, Master Stefu, Jeremy and others, 877-789-2539. Questions are Kathy O'Brien. Quick questions so she can answer them straight ahead. We appreciate everybody. Please stay with us. Be sure to get her book, Transformation of America, transtransformation.com, and her book on how to overcome trauma. You'll find it all at transtransformation.com. Stay with us. We'll be right back. We sell the best supplements.

2:23:47 outside of me and my wife and people that worked for me at the time that were looking at all that, it's very difficult to prove anything. So is there any connection between that? Did that play a part in because my shot never recovered from that. I mean, we fought hard to stay alive after that, but I didn't last more than about almost a year after that, but I had to fight tooth and nail. And we had a lot of strange things happen with some of our bigger vendors, some of the bigger corporate vendors we were dealing with. We had some bigger customers. All right, so this guy's a well-known journalist and book reviewer. He goes into an investigation, gets harassed. Here's the footage he shot of the snorkels, which Air Force experts have looked at, and I'm just telling you the truth is what they are, show those underground bases there. Let's go to that clip. Because this friend of mine that was looking at the placement of that mansion, he said,

2:24:41 looks like it is built like something is underneath it. And I forget the way he worded it, but essentially the topography that he was looking at in his experience in the Air Force was such that that looked like an underground facility right under the mesa that the mansion was sitting on. So this time around, I was a little bit more alert and as I astral projected myself out to look over that and record that, This time I noticed a whole series of vents on the south side of the mansion that look like industrial gratings for like air conditioning and heating vents and things like that on big industrial buildings, except this is a mansion. This just should ostensibly be a house. Pause, pause, back up 10 seconds. He's being sarcastic. He's got a drone over it. And you can see the giant vents.

2:25:31 that you only have for an underground base. Continue. So I got some good footage of that and this time I was prepared just in case somebody came out to try to intercept us, but nobody did and the signage and everything had been changed. So it was no longer before it was like Zorro Ranch Drive right there on the road going in and now it's something else. All the signage had been changed, but I did find it interesting that the little ranch compound, all the support facilities for that ranch,

2:26:11 The same red truck that we had seen before that came out to talk to us was there so the support vehicles are the same there everything looks the same the only main thing that I saw was it looked like the weird almost like a helipad slash Maze or whatever was on the ground up on part of the Mesa that has all been Bulldozed or whatever that's all gone but My personal thought on that is after seeing the way we were treated in this of the high security and everything else the lottery winning and all that all the weird stuff around that I started coming to the conclusion that I thought the guy is very much alive And probably at just a different location or something. I totally agree We have two jail guards saying now and these are the obscene files that when they took out the fake dead body They say fake. This is mainstream news now

2:27:06 that he was alive in a wheelchair, brought out and did a thumbs up and disappeared. So now we have Texas GOP politician running for comptroller, control Texas money. Don Huffins, it's been a big controversy that just came out last few days that he owns Zorro Ranch. Well, now he says he's gonna make it a Christian retreat. So this is getting weirder and weirder. And he ran, of course, against the governor and others previously. So there you have that information. We have an overhead shot of this as we showed it. Texas GOP politician, early voting starts today in Texas. So watching that, Kathy, sorry that took so long, but I wanted to get that out there. What do you make of that? Yeah, I'm glad it's out there. We've got a lot to be investigating and exposing. It really is up to us to do it.

2:27:57 I'm not saying this guy's guilty by association, but he's powerful. He's more of a liberal Republican. And if I was going to buy Zora Ranch, I would up front say to make it a church or whatever. Now that it's out that he owns it, it's very suspicious. Now he says it'd be a Christian facility. This needs to be investigated. What do you think? I definitely think it should be investigated. We need to be looking into things like that, especially if there's evidence of underground aspects to it. It's got to all be researched and found out. We need to be paying attention to everything these days and thinking clearly for ourselves, not relying on someone else to do it for us. Absolutely, this becomes a blur for me. But I remember like six months ago, I can pull it up.

2:28:49 Other people use Google Earth to show, Google Maps to show snorkels like a thousand yards out. Like there are, you know, what you see up front around bases for air ventilation all over the place. So, and a lot of underground bases out there. Were you ever taken an underground base? Did you ever hear about that? Absolutely, there's a lot of them that are underground. And then there's things like the underworld at Disney World where the DARPA level MKUltra mind control programming is. There's the underworld at Bohemian Grove where these perpetrators met. They seem to like to be underground.

2:29:35 Out of sight, I guess. Anderson talked about public auctions in Vegas of children and now it's coming out of documents that are indeed auctions. Did you ever hear about that or see that? Absolutely. There were a lot of auctions that I've talked about all these years and a lot of ways that they sold slaves and it just Yeah, it's nothing new. Again, what we're seeing isn't new. What's new is we're seeing it. What's new is we're finding out. Let me ask you about this. I mean, I know you work. What's your view of Ted Gunnarsson? Man, it's not about we want to be vindicated, but wow, are we not vindicated.

2:30:15 Yeah. Ted was, um, he was so grandfatherly. It was just so sweet to me. He was always good to me and, um, he did the best he could. He was working in a agency that was so corrupt that I don't think he was aware of how corrupt it was and how much he was being liked. No, he said he didn't know until he got out how bad it was. Right, right. Well, even then, you know, he was relying on people. What was the school in California he got hired and investigated? They proved the tunnels. Remember all that? That's what woke him up. Oh, yeah. Yeah, Ted Gunderson's absolute hero. He's in my book, Access Denied for Reasons of National Security. What he did with the Franklin case, that paralleled the one, my case, my handler was at Boys Town, as a matter of fact, in Nebraska when Mark Phillips rescued my daughter and me. So, you know, there's a lot of parallels. So where are the main headquarters from your research of pedophilia back then? Pardon me? Where are the main epicenters back then of the pedophile networks?

2:31:19 The main epicenters were I think the worst of them all was Haiti. And I think the information on Haiti is still needing to come out that what what I saw there was was beyond atrocious. Madeleine Albright was running the operations out of there through her OAS building in St. Thomas. Of course, the Virgin Islands were heavily involved and they were opening up the Epstein Island at that time and everything else. Hillary Clinton right there involved in it all, Bill Clinton involved, especially in the Haitian operations which are documented in my testimony for Congress, Transformation of America.

2:32:01 That's right, you've testified to that, I forget. Wow, I want to take some calls here, but folks, I have massive knowledge of this, just what's even public, and I'm telling you, this is all going on. And you read these emails, no one can deny it, it is hell on earth. I think what you said an hour ago, they're not getting away with this now. It's out, it's over, the question is, and they know that, I think the globalists know they're done. Yeah, they do. And I'm sure we're going to see more shootings and we need to realize we can all deal with exactly what's going on if we picked up a pen and paper and ride out the trauma, ride out the fear. It'll help us all to think clear through it. Exactly, I'm not a rocket scientist, but the guy that just killed his whole family in public said you better watch your mouth criticizing us or we'll get you. Right. The day before he kills his family,

2:32:59 Good chance that guy's a mind control. Good, good chance. That's a message. Even Fox picked it up, which normally doesn't pick up when we're being persecuted. We filed a counter suit against the Democrats. Nobody covered it. But oh, Fox covered that. I think that's kind of a message. You know, Jimmy Kimmel famously got up before they sued me and he said, Here's a message, you claim we're attacking the kids, we're gonna kill you if you don't shut up. It's a message from Hillary. And then he shoots a BB gun into a glass jar of pickles. And people said, what is that? I got it as a threat. They filed suit two days later. Yeah, that's the common for them to use that they use that all the time. And I'm K ultra where they would say, well, they killed Marilyn Monroe, who was the first presidential model and K ultra slave. They killed Marilyn Monroe in the public eye. Imagine what we do to the likes of you.

2:33:46 Berg told me that all the time. It's the phrase they use. It's what they use hunting. If we shoot these people, then imagine what we do to the likes of you. When Dick Cheney shot his attorney in the face and it was on TV, then they were asking Bush Jr. about it. And he used that quote. He said, if he'll shoot his attorney in the face, imagine what he'll do to the likes of you. Yeah, by the way, Hillary goes on TV with a thing of pickles opens them and then they go and shoot pickles and say, we'll kill you Alex Jones. I'm surprised the crew found us a quick, this doesn't even sound real. I just, it's like I say this stuff, it's all true. It doesn't even sound real. Let's start taking some phone calls. You're amazing. And by the way, next time you're in town, please come in studio. Let's take calls. The order they received was the oldest caller here. That'd be owl killer in Virginia. I'll kill her on the air. Go ahead. Well, Alex, like you,

2:34:45 I was completely shocked by that interview with Steve Bannon. And it wasn't just the Trilateral Commission explanation. It was also him explaining fractional reserve banking. And it brings us full circle. Epstein said in that interview, the world leaders have no idea about finance. You see in the email, he's telling Macron what to do. there nobody even talking about the evil leaders are retarded and then you got the state rockefeller guy literally running everything we now know he was to go for he was in charge yet and people are on the other side that jeffrey i'm seeing a rockefeller death was the president states the world he county hood barack in the in recorded conversations what to do how to get in touch with peter keele and what to do with talent here now but i agree i agree with you but but

2:35:39 This is questions for our guests. So ask her a question. We gotta go Okay, my question is did we make a catastrophic error in thinking that Trump can do this on his own? I know the man's heart is right But we put so much faith into a man that only acting as a tyrant. Could he bring the system to yield? Yeah, sure. Let's move on from that. Yeah It doesn't matter. We can spend the level, spend all our time on Trump not being perfect. They're the ones openly doing it. I say, hey, Trump's not perfect. Well, Kathy said we got to do it ourselves and I even have that debate. Go ahead, Kathy. Absolutely, it's up to us. I keep saying that government can't fix it for us, government's doing it to us. This is our time. Power's been returned to the people. President Trump told us he was returning the power to the people. They just don't much know what that means. Look at our Constitution, it says, we the people, we're the ones. It's up to us. Absolutely, we're going to take more calls here.

2:36:39 Let's go to Andrew in Orlando, Florida. Andrew in Orlando, Florida. You're on the air. Stop covering for Israel, Alex. You know what we're talking about. Now throw your little tantrum and get mad and cut me off. Go ahead. Stop shilling. It's really old. What's really old is we expose Israel all day long, that's completely retarded. It makes you feel powerful to claim that we're covering for Israel. We're here with Catherine O'Brien, a real victim of this, exposing it. I mean, Epstein obviously did a lot of stuff for Israel. He took over for

2:37:15 Maxwell's dad that was a Mossad agent. We've covered all this. I appreciate your call, but it's just retarded. I mean, it's just weird. It's like you think, oh, I talk about Israel, I'm better than you. I've been doing this 30 plus years. I don't know what you're even talking about. Totally retarded. What do you want to say to that caller? I think it's really important for us all to judge information for ourselves and not count on one person to tell us all the truth anyway. It's up to us to research everything. Exactly, what is that? I mean, I've got you on, we're doing all this, I cover Israel every day, and I just think like, oh, like I'm in the Epstein file. Yeah, the DOJ stuck me in there. There's 50 emails attacking me, but they put that there to hurt me, and now these fake right-wingers are saying, oh, Alex is in it, he's bad. No, it's Epstein saying I've got to be stopped, but they don't care. It's like,

2:38:03 They're like Pharisees. They want to say you're not good. We're because it's like if Alex Jones the guy doing this for 30 years if we can say we're better than him we feel powerful. I don't care about that, but it's just weird. It's weird. I mean, how do you do three hours on Israel today? I thought Israel's completely out of control. I mean I cover cons about to prove myself to you. It's sick People snap judge and they just make silly assumptions, you know, it's like what President Trump did to wake up the people I love him forever for It doesn't mean I agree with every single thing going on in Washington DC. Exactly. It's a good thing, but let's just bring this up Yeah, he called it holier-than-thou. Did you ever run into in Masada Israel stuff when you were in the CIM kildra program?

2:38:46 Well, yeah, there was some there too because everybody's involved. This is a globalist agenda. And they all have to be involved. You mentioned exactly, any real spies in all of it, exactly. Right, right, right. Right. And Jesuits, you know, I mean, it's vast. It's everywhere. You know, it's infiltrated everything. If there is even a clean organization, it's infiltrated. So, you know, we got to start examining things on their own merits. What the Kohler wants is the hatred of Jews. He doesn't like the pedophiles being exposed. He doesn't like it being about the devil and God. the people in Christ, he wants me, he's like, why are you attacking Jews? I'm attacking Satanist. But you see the mental illness, like we're covering pure evil here and he's gotta bring this up to make him, it's satanic. People have been dumbed down to that point where they're just, they snap judge based without all the facts and without looking and examining. And he was welcome to bring up Israel. I'm saying, so what Israel connections did you see? Let's get that out. With mine? Yes.

2:39:50 There's just various perpetrators involved in that aspect and the Massad aspect. But there's just everybody was involved. There isn't anybody that wasn't. Let's get that straight. Shamanism is the operating system worldwide, like the Bible says. And so he's mad because he says, no, only Jews do it. And that's what he was mad about. No, we're exposing the whole thing, brother. You're not going to stop us. Let's go to... Let's go to Master Stefou in California. Go ahead, Mr. Stefou. Hello, Alex. Welcome. Sir, I want to congratulate you and her, Ms. O'Brien. You are both way out in front of everybody else, including with what just happened here on the phone with this other guy. Are you there? Yeah, brother. You're on air worldwide right now.

2:40:47 All right, buddy. Um, my goodness. One thing I want to say first, I hope you give me like a, like a minute, at least. Sir, I don't do this screen calls on air. You're doing this thing. Can I say this? How long you're on here, bro? You're on hold on. You got one minute. You got one minute. You're on air right now. So much respect. All right. Um, she, 100% authentic. I read people for a living, that's what I normally do. And I read you almost every day and you're both so authentic and everybody else is such a liar. Let me just start there. Right? And all this other stuff that's going on, all the connections that have been put together over the past couple weeks, we all see it. And this shit is over. I could just leave it at that. And if you want to respond. No, I agree. I don't see how the globalists get out of this.

2:41:36 I totally, I'm not trying to be mean, I'm just saying callers calling like, can I say this, can I say that? You called in brother, you're on the air. Anything else you want to say? Vampires. They're fucking vampires. Sorry about the language. No, I hear you. I appreciate your call. You know, you have the legends of vampires. Obviously they don't live forever, but it's the same spirit. How would you describe these satanists as vampires, Cathy O'Brien? Well, they literally drink blood, so I guess we can call it that. You know, they adrenalize blood, so- And you've witnessed blood drinking? Anything we want to. We can call them Satanists, we can call them aliens. All I say is they are not like us, and they do not like us. And you've seen blood drinking? Absolutely. It's all over the emails. Let's go ahead and go to Will in New Hampshire. Will in New Hampshire, on the air with Kathy O'Brien. Go ahead.

2:42:33 Alex, so nice to talk to you. How are you? I'm alright, brother. Go ahead. Alright, Kathy, I'm just so grateful to get to talk to you. I've just, I went to this school in New Jersey, survival school back in 1998, and this lady had the tape and said there's all this government, you know, like what you're going through and she's like, you have to watch this. And I watched it and I've been telling everybody ever since I'm like, it, it made so much sense to me. It helped me wake up and I'm just, I I just, to be able to talk to you is really, is a dream come true for me. Well, you're on air, brother. Thank you. Go ahead and ask your questions. She's a real hero. I appreciate that.

2:43:11 I just I saw you on a podcast with Michael Jaco and I was at the school, the Tracker School, and he was teaching there and I remember telling him about you and I don't think he'd ever heard about it. And he was like, that sounds really interesting. And then I was watching his podcast about, you know, three or four months ago when I saw you on there and I was like, oh my, I couldn't believe it. It was just, it's like it had come full circle. So, you know, I've been doing my best to try to spread the word and, you know, I called members of Congress today talking about our problems that we're facing. And just what can we do? Is there anything politically or any sort of committee or anybody we can try to get some traction in Washington or in government? I would just go to school boards and talk about drag queen story time. I'd run for office. Exactly. Yes. Why? Actually, I do run for office. Local action. Go ahead, Kathy. Hold on, sir. But Kathy, that's your question. Thanks for the call, Will.

2:44:06 Yeah, local action has national impact. So, you know, everybody needs to get out in their own communities and talk to each other eye to eye. Heart to heart. Explain that. The enemy's operating everywhere. Yeah, make a difference right in your own backyard. Don't wait on government to fix this for us. It's up to us. It really is up to us. Let's go to John in Connecticut. John, you're on the air with Kathy O'Brien. MK Ultra, CIA Satan survivor. Go ahead. Good afternoon, Ms. Kathy. I hope you're doing well. So my question is, because we're in a spiritual warfare, do you think that all the laws and the policies that suppress the spreading of the gospel and sharing our faith as believers, to include the cover-up of pedophiles and amongst other things, do you think this is a direct attack against God and Christianity?

2:44:59 It's a direct attack against our humanity, the essence of our being, the spiritual aspect of who we are because it's our saving grace, it's our strength. So my latest book, Align With The Divine, is about going within and finding that connection within so nothing can attack when we remember who we are and why we're here. I agree, but the Satanists say we want to hurt God by hurting each other, we hurt God. Do you agree with that? Absolutely, that's we got to protect our children. John, it's up to us. Any other thing? Yes. And thank you for that, Kathy. I appreciate it. I just I remember just being sucked into politics and doing things through the lens of politics. But then once I realized that these policies that are being passed and everything else is really

2:45:49 and attack on God ultimately, and an attack on our faith as Christians, our freedom to spread the gospel, to share the gospel, and because it's a spiritual war, it's a war against good and evil. So I just wanted to say that. David Joe Rogan has become a real Christian. I told him that like three years ago, and believe me, we probably talked, he's like, God, it's all true. How do you know? I said, it's good and evil, Joe. Don't misjudge, you know, the church when you're a kid in Boston and, you know, buy into that. You've got to know that those are the priests getting between you and God. Kathy, you've been on this for two hours. You're so gracious. If you got to go, I totally respect and understand trans-transformation.com. I have Matt Bracken with Hugh's National Security News coming up, but he'll be cool if we go another 10 minutes. Can you go another 10 minutes? Take a few more calls? I'll need to leave pretty quick. I'm totally interested. Can you do five more or are you going to leave right now?

2:46:41 I need to leave right now. All right, Kathy, thank you so much. Transtransformation.com, the book Transformation of America, Real Kathy O'Brien on X. Thank you so much, amazing. Thank you so much for having me on. I encourage everybody to check out my books on Audible. I read them all myself to preserve the integrity of information. So it's easy to get to there too. Well, things are so important right now. Come back and join us soon, okay? Thank you so much. I appreciate you, Alex. Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, everything we've talked about to a T is being vindicated right now. So we can obsess over the Epstein files or is Trump covering up or isn't he or what's Todd Blanch doing any of that? Men that abuse these girls and what does that mean? But at the end of the day, it's 99% Democrats in there. It's the European elite.

2:47:35 They're the ones that basically wrote the book on this crap. It's all coming out and we the people the populous Christians of the world have been vindicated in spades and that's why we've been attacked so much. So remember Regardless of what happens with different political leaders, different populist, whether it's Orban, or whether it's Le Pen in France, or whether it's Donald Trump here, regardless, we the people of the West of America, Christendom, will continue to promote freedom and liberty and justice in the American way and expose evil. And at the tip of the spear in that fight is Infowars.

2:51:17 We had such an illustrative call earlier with Katharine O'Brien, a true MKUltra survivor, here to answer any of your questions. And I say, calling for her, and the guy goes, why are you covering for Israel? Dude, all we do is expose the bad of Israel. But they do that to act like we're with Israel because that's all they know. They don't know anything else. They don't understand anything else. And it's just, it's crazy how they need to be, we're the good Nazis, you're not a Nazi, so you're bad. It's retarded. I'm not mad at the guy, it's just so stupid. We don't screen your call. Oh Alex, you're gonna get upset. I'm getting upset because you're, say it, tell us about the Jews. You can talk. You're about to get three hours over with Harrison Smith. I don't wanna put him on air. And he does it from a place of love, trying to get everybody on board. It's retarded, but that's all you want is to get a clip of me so you can say, oh look, I'm better than you. It's insane. We have mass trafficking of children. All these intelligence agencies are involved. Israel heavily, we expose it.

2:52:14 And you sit there and do that, it's retarded. A few more callers. Lindsey, I'm sorry I can't talk to Kathy, she had to go. Lindsey in Oklahoma, go ahead, you're on the air. Lindsey, go ahead. Yes, can you hear me? I can, go ahead. Okay, Alex, thank you so much for what you're doing, keeping this front and center of this spiritual warfare that we're in, and this satanic takeover of the world. You are the only one that's doing it and I'm a guy that is on the other side of this. I have been a deliverance minister and an exorcist for the last 27 years.

2:52:54 And what I've been doing is working with people like Kathy and others who have been run through satanic ritual abuse. By the way, the Holy Spirit, I'm out there on some preacher TV, I mean this, is telling me to have you on as a guest. I'm going to get your name and number, send us your bona fides, because absolutely exorcisms or the demons are coming out. Tell us what you've witnessed. I want to get you on as a guest. I'm going to have you on regardless. Go ahead. Get his name and number. Go ahead, sir. That'd be great. Okay, a couple of things. If you'll give me just a second, I've got a couple of things to impart on you. You know, you talked about the, on the shot, how they were using aborted fetal tissue that was going into the poison shot. My pastor and I, who have been working at this for years, we get, occasionally we will get a demon who can speak to a person that's come for deliverance. And the Holy Spirit, a couple of years ago, got us

2:53:48 to kind of put us on point that wait a minute, they're doing satanic ritual abuse and satanic rituals over the aborted fetal tissues and then putting that into the shot. That has to be a doorway to demons. It's a sacrament. That's like the golden child of Dillian Hollywood. They need to corrupt the body. They call that, they call that unconscious witchcraft. Exactly, exactly. And we've, and every demon that we got up in a deliverance that was able to speak, every single one of them started laughing and said, of course, yes, we're coming in through it. And we're bringing in eight demons. That seems to be the standard into every person for every shot. And that would explain some of the things that we're seeing about some people that

2:54:34 We've all witnessed people that have taken the shots and have had personality changes and they don't have anything to do with us anymore. They've just completely lost their mind. This would explain some of that. Also, that guy that did the shooting with the Nazi tattoos and the SS on the side of him and the deathbed. The demons say that they come in through those when you're putting those death images on you. Well, that's right. The Germans did satanic rituals to empower the twin lightning bolt as a symbol of Lucifer falling as a satanic order. Right. Exactly. Exactly. And there is so much more for me to convey to you. I don't want to monopolize too much of your time. No, listen, we're going to need your name and number to have you on as a guest.

2:55:22 That'd be great. I would love it. Send us your info, full name, we'll get you on. No, because we're Simpatico. This is what this is. This is, we call it magic. It's interdimensional, folks, which they now with math know is more real than the third dimension. This is a dimensional, interdimensional assault. Like the Bible tells us, it's a fallen angel, an alien. Like Cathy said, call it the devil, call it alien, whatever you want. It wants to destroy us. It's a transmission to destroy us and not follow God's plan. A few more calls. I'm going to hand the baton to the great Matt Bracken who wants to get into Epstein. Aborted babies incinerated to heat UK hospitals. Soylent Green, ladies and gentlemen, is made out of people. But now children are literally being passed through the furnace in order to fuel hospitals in the UK. They're being sacrificed on the altar of efficiency and prosperity. What is the secret of Soylent Green?

2:56:23 The powdered flesh from dead babies. Some people believe they can cure disease. Because of its enormous popularity, Soylent Green is in short supply. Remember, Tuesday is Soylent Green Day. The supply of Soylent Green has been exhausted. You must evacuate the area. The Senate court ruled that the shareholders of PepsiCo, Big Builder Burger Company, are not allowed to know what they're using the baby parts for in the flavoring, but we already know. So enjoy the flavor. We're going to get the real solution, which is going to be a combination of death panels and sales taxes. I'm consistently pro-death. I'm for assisted suicide. I'm for regular suicide. I'm for whatever gets the freeway moving. Is spending a million dollars on that last three months of life for that patient, would it be better not to lay off

2:57:16 those 10 teachers and to make that trade up in medical costs but that's called the death panel and you're not supposed to have that discussion. They told me to say that they were sorry but that you had become unreliable. Is this the kind of society that you want to live in? Any kind of society that would do this to its children will do it to its senior citizens. It will do it to its dissidents. That kind of society will also eventually turn on its police, on its army, on its prison guards, on the quizlings and the collaborators who make that possible. This is nothing but a suicide cult. The scoops are on their way. The scoops are on their way.

2:58:07 I repeat, the scoops are on their way. You will find out why Soylent Green means life. You will find out why Soylent Green means death. We've got to stop them! That is the secret of Soylent Green. Soylent Green is people! It's all an anti-human death cult. And what we call spiritual is really interdimensional proven mathematics, okay? We're electrochemical transceivers receiving transmit and there's everything in the universe folks. You can tune to the Satan channel or the Jesus channel. There's really no in between. Matt Bracken's about to take over. He wants to get into Epstein, but also Iran and on all of that it's coming up then in 51 minutes, the war room, Harris and Smith. Stay tuned for that, but real fast, let's go to

2:59:01 Who was the next caller? You guys, Project Pegasus. He wanted to talk to Gathiel Brown, but she had to go. Robin Oregon, go ahead. I'm sure she'll see this later. Go ahead. Yeah, I'll be as quick as I can, Alex. I'm acquainted with a lady by the name of Lisa. Her father was in government and he started Project Pegasus as a prelude and with MKUltra. And she's a survivor. The spirit led us together. I've talked to you before Alex, prayed for you a lot, but anyway, the spirit led us together and I've been compelled and she's been compelled to get a hold of Kathy, them together so that they can

2:59:43 connect the dots and I'm sure that something good is going to come out of it, not only for them but for all of us. Her story is quite similar. Shape-shifting family, draconian blood drinkers, satanic. She's a survivor of all that and it went up until the time still being targeted to the time the Spirit got us together, and then through prayer, she was set free from it. So the story is quite amazing, and I'm just glad that I was able to get on and tell you about this.

3:00:24 And if you want to take my information off air, I don't want to say her real name. Well, sure. Here's the deal. Just contact Kathy O'Brien. I'm not pooping on what you're doing, but I can't be the air traffic controller of this, but I appreciate your call. Let's take a few more calls. We're going to Matt Bracken. Let's go ahead and go to Jeremy in Missouri. Go ahead. You're on the air. Hi, Alex. One of the things that when your first car, he skated her on the top of the cabana. And I'd like you, since Kathy's not here, to talk about him a little more in depth, because it's proven in the text and email that Trump's former chief strategist fired, I think, after not even a year. His campaign CEO was teaching, and he mentioned in the video, he was teaching Epstein how to become a professional liar.

3:01:14 to skate around his pedophilia lifestyle. To get all these, coach him up to being a real evil liar. That, you know, what's the timeline to that? But more so than that, Epstein was given, I know he worked for him, he signed some, I don't know, a contract, you know, to do the documentary. But he's getting gifts like thousand dollar watches, airfare, trips all over the place, first class everything. And yet old Bannon, he's not Nobody's talking about this. What what you know since you're here, how do you just how do you distinguish between a good person and then someone like Bannon who clearly is doing the seven deadly sins of greed Who was never Maga? He's not a let me respond to the Bannon thing I mean, I met Bannon once in person on his show probably 50 times doing my show probably 10 times I've seen some of the emails quite frankly the ones about delivering sex slaves and

3:02:11 draining blood of children and burying dead bodies and all of that's where I've been focused. And so I've not searched the whole database and because I've looked at some of the Bannon stuff, it's like doing an interview and wanting political power and trying to get rid of the Labour Party and stuff over in the UK. It was very powerful. I'm not defending that. I'm not Steve Bannon's apologist here. I'll just be honest with you. I have not done the deep dive on Bannon because I am focused on the Trilateral Commission, David Rockefeller, world government, human trafficking, sex slaves being delivered, being tortured, mind-controlled slaves. I mean it's all, they don't even hide it in here, okay? This is like holy grail stuff. And so, and you know, and underground bases under Zora Ranch. So...

3:02:54 I've spent an hour attacking Trump for the cover up. I can't do two hours to prove myself worthy. I'm only guy first really reported this on a wide scale. So I have not done the deep dive on Bannon. And I guess I could get around to that. I did see stuff where he's like, I blew up the trade deal that we have with China. Did he do that telling Trump to do it or did he do it outside of Trump? I don't know. I know General Flynn is pissed off at him. I talked to Flynn this morning, we're mainly talking about other stuff that you'll hear tomorrow. We spent 30 seconds on Bannon. So I'll ask Flynn tomorrow, who is being critical, why don't you're on the air? Why don't you tell us, you kind of mentioned something, what is Bannon doing in these emails or what's there? One of the things that was very disturbing to me is after he was out of the administration,

3:03:44 They were going back and forth about a young female staffer that worked for Trump and insinuating, Bannon insinuating that she was sleeping with Trump, doing other things. He has a daughter of his own, a veteran. And then I look back to what he got from Trump, pardon him, right? For Colfage went to prison, Bannon got by, he stayed at bay. He ripped off the MAGA for his ball team. Well, I know this, Roger Stone, who I really respect, has always said Bannon is super, uber evil. I just interviewed Big Guess. My point is, this is a guy, it is important I think because he's going to run for president. He's already back, he's in your state I believe, right? His new show is Battleground Texas. He's going to remove Sharia law and he's going to pick the candidates and he's going to control who's going to- To be honest with you, I don't follow Bannon that closely other than going on his show. Okay, well, I mean, I think any, let me say this, I think any political future for Bannon is over.

3:04:38 So, I mean, so I will, you're here to tell us what else is in there? Oh, he was, he was, they were making fun of women that were traffic and fertilized the descriptions that you give about these horrible crimes. Bannon thought they were funny. Okay, well, listeners always think I'm omnipresent. I have been following the Epstein list and Mario Nafal and my own crew and whatever they give me, I'm, and you know, the Zorro Ranch underground bases and you know, that's so mean. I mean, the Bannon stuff, I know he interviewed him, all that stuff. So, uh, great. We'll, we'll, we'll, we'll cover it all brother. Thanks, Alex. Thank you.

3:05:18 Charles in Ohio, and then I gotta get to our guests. I'm being rude. Charles, go ahead. Charles in Ohio. Charles is not there. Gabriel in West Virginia, last caller. Go ahead, Gabriel. Hello, I keep it in par with the SRA conversation. The call that they called in and the shield comment that happens anytime I attempt to say what I felt like I needed to say. What I wanted to talk to Kathy O'Brien about had to do with the suicide program that gets kicked on when an individual talks about the experiences that they had. I had a conversation with someone that was brought to me by a friend that I had been working with. Oh yeah, we didn't see Kathy even though she's broken most of the programming. When I wanted to talk about the abuse, no, she didn't want to do it.

3:06:09 Yeah, well that's because there's so many layers that are built in and sequences that get triggered that bring things up into their domain, up into their spiritual body. And the stuff that this lady shared with me was unbelievable. She had scars all over her arms, like the victim that I talked to. And as she started to talk about it, there were four of us sitting around there praying for her. And just to hear her story was profound. And I wanted just to mention, bits and pieces of it because it's prudent to the SRA conversation. She had came from a Kabbalah satanic family. She was raised to harbor and transfer and hold multiple demons at the same time and transfer them to children while they were doing the ritualized sexualized abuse.

3:06:56 And she talked to me about some of the things that they made them do to get them ready for this. All right, we're out of time. I apologize to Matt Bracken for making him hold 17 minutes. I really wanted to get him on for his expertise on Iran. He's dead on about that former Navy SEAL bus selling author, but he wants to talk about Epstein right now. So I'm going to hand the baton to Andrews. Remember, we're funded by you. We've got a sale ends tomorrow night at midnight. 53% off on all the supplements, all the patriot apparel, all the knives, biggest sale of the year. Ends tomorrow night, thealexshowstore.com. Can't do it without you. Thank you so much. Matt Bracken, I hand the baton to you. Thank you so much, my friend.

3:07:38 Thank you, Alex. It's been quite a week. I don't want to sound like we're just beating this dead horse, like we're watching mainstream news and it's all about the Guthrie story. But the Epstein story, I think, is not going away. It's going to be permanent with us for a while. You agree? I said I was leaving, but if Trump doesn't do the right thing now, he is the Epstein presidency. He has been tricked into this. He's not involved for all our evidence. I mean, this is the white pillars say, oh, don't help the Democrats. Shut about it. No, it's not going away. Can Trump even get out of this now?

3:08:16 It's the ultimate tar baby. He could only if he took your advice, Barnes, others, you've got to release everything. Because he may not be tarred, but the worry is that who said that Trump told her, I guess it was MTG, that it would be too embarrassing for too many of his friends. He told me two months ago, I'm probably going to leave Congress before she even did. She said, he told me, he goes, this will embarrass my friends. Right, and that's like Howard Lutnick who shared five stories of a common wall, okay? I mean in Intel world, this is like East 71st Street, couple blocks from Central Park. And then he lied and said that was the only time they met and we were always at the island. He's done.

3:09:04 He's done. But in terms of if this is an Intel operation, you have to study where did these people come from? Where did they get their wealth? How did they go from like, you know, wonder kin to billionaire? Well, let's say Israeli operatives. I mean, as far as I'm concerned, there might as well have been revolving doors between nine and 11. And God has a sense of humor putting them in number 911. On you know sharing a lot of the building and everybody else died on 9 11. Yeah let Nick drop net you let Nick was at work every day except that day he decided to take his daughter to school instead of a driver taking her to school.

3:09:48 I mean, and he's got a very compelling story and I'm very sympathetic. He was on an operating table for like 10 hours on a blood machine, you know, doing invasive heart surgery with no expectation of surviving. So, you know, you have to think what's he at when you go through that experience, what's left to like, what cards are you going to hold? I think that there are still a lot of cards that people are holding. I had high hopes for Kash Patel and Dan Bongino when they went to the FBI. And then a month later, they're like, they've got that deer in the headlight look like I've seen things that would like shake the palace foundation like an earthquake. And I can't even talk about it. That's the only way I can interpret that look on their face, that like shocked look.

3:10:39 And, you know, Bongino is trying to rehab his podcast. That's not going to work. Bannon now, he's tarred with this tar baby. I think he's done. Trump, just by appearing to be continuing a cover up, continuing to employ Pam Bondi, total mistake. But this is such a pervasive stink, and it's not just an American political story. This is a world story. In Iran and Russia, they're holding this up as, look at who the leaders of the West are, satanic pedophiles. If you're on team NATO, team America, you're on team pedophile.

3:11:28 And how does this even happen? Where can this come from? And I compare this to how do people self-select for this? It's well known for a long time. that psychopaths have a chameleon ability. It's like the evil side of, I think it was Buckminster Fuller, he wrote a book many decades ago, How to Win Friends and Influence People. It's basically listen to them and then feedback what they want to hear. In a sincere, honest way, but it's like a salesman. What does the person want to talk about? Become a chameleon, mirror that back to them.

3:12:11 So psychopaths have what I would call psychopath gaydar. Everybody's probably heard of gaydar. It's how, you know, men at a party can, without, you know, handing over a card or winking or sticking their tongue out, which might get them punched in the face, they have to. Like you know like insects with pheromones or their antennas They've got a kind of just a little bit of eye contact a little bit of suggestion. That's called gaydar I think that the psychopaths that do so well in politics also have like a psychopath Gaydar and and they they absolutely excel at being the chameleon. This is why so many politicians

3:12:58 can change 180 degrees over their career. They can go into office steering one way and 20 years later you forget, and now they're steering another way because they're just psychopaths that use that chameleon ability to project back what people want to see. In the mob world, I'm going to compare three things, gangs, the mafia and this psychopath class. In gangs, it's very common. How do you vet a new gang member? I mean, he's from your neighborhood, he speaks your language, but how do you vet him? Well, you have him commit a murder.

3:13:45 You'll tell him, walk up and shoot that cop that's sitting in that parked car. And if you do that, we know number one, you'll pull the trigger when you're told. But also, we've now got criminal culpability we can hold over you. You can go to prison for the rest of your life. So you're now in our gang because you're going to know our secrets, but we've got a secret on you. We told you to kill that guy and you did. Walk into that bodega and just shoot the guy, and you do. So they've got a hold on you. In the mafia, in the old mafia, the goodfellas mafia, you had to be from Sicily, nothing else. That was like part of the plot of the movie. Joe Pesci can't kill a maid guy and they wind up wiping him out because he's not from Sicily, he's not a maid guy. But in this psychopathic class,

3:14:41 You have some British Royals, you have people from Switzerland, all different countries, France. So how do they activate their psychopathic gaydar to know who's who? I think that one way is you get invited to the island and you go and you want more and more. So, you know, you're shown the massage table in Lutnick's case. Lutnick says, oh, I saw that me and my wife that we were done. We want nothing to do with this creep. But what if you get the massage? You get further and further, you get pulled further and further along. And there's, you know, your vices are used against you. If it's gambling, you know, oh wow, you just had the best luck of your life in Vegas. Yeah, at the blackjack table where the blackjack dealer's, you know, throwing you 21 every time. And you love it. You love getting on that Gulfstream jet. You love taking those vacations at these quote unquote, you know, seminars.

3:15:42 You know, it's very seductive. Even I think Steve Bannon can get sucked into that. When these guys, these leading psychopaths, when they suddenly become billionaires, George Soros, you know, goes from Hungarian or from refugee crossing from Hungary. Next thing you know, a couple years later, he's a billion dollar hedge fund in London. How does that happen? Well, these Satan acolytes If they're billionaires, they've got like a gravitational pull on everybody that would love to be rich. And if you're a billionaire, million dollars are like what you can drop for a tip. That's a weekend. So buying people or pulling them into your greed gravity, like I think even could happen with Bannon. So a Bannon strong personality, I think a good man, and he thinks I'm going to use Epstein's money

3:16:40 Epstein's not going to influence me. I'm just going to take the money and give him a little coaching. But you're sucked into that gravitational field. And I think even Trump was sucked into that gravitational field. And you see this torch being passed generation to generation. These creeps tend to cultivate a mentor relationship with young potential creeps. When you look at people like, for example, obviously Barack Obama, he starts his career in Bill Air's living room. Bill Air is weather underground bomber. Then he becomes a leading professor, not only a professor, he's writing the textbooks that our kids are using.

3:17:26 And he's leading Obama into, oh, all these doors open. You win this race. You win that race. All of your opposition gets nuked at the last minute and you slide into the Senate. You slide into the presidency. You can say the same thing happened with Bill Clinton. Oh, Rhodes Scholar, Fulbright Scholarship, straight to London, straight to Moscow. He's on his way. Power relationship with Hillary. you know, these disciples of Satan, I think that they're cultivated, they're deep selected, and they're always moving forward. And like Alex has said about the vampires, it doesn't necessarily mean that Dracula himself never dies, but Dracula

3:18:18 The vampire finds a new vampire to pass the torch to, because this is a long-running satanic force that we're battling. This is not something that's just new in this century. And we'll talk more about this on the other side of this break. Be right back. I see through a rose-colored darkly. That means I'm trying to tell you the truth, but I'm not always right just about 98% of the time. And bad guys of every stripe don't want this show on the air. But you're the good guys. You have to decide, hey, this guy's a fighter. This guy stood up for this. This guy is an incredible track record. We want to support him. And then I'm going to sell you something that really works so you love it and you get it again and again. And Bigley, our great sponsor, that was the Alex Jones store.com. No matter what happens, M4, we continue on the Alex Jones network that's been built. So key. I said, Alex, you keep getting it wrong. We don't have 84% reorder on ultra-methylene blue.

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3:20:15 Plus the products are great. So please get yours now over 50% off, but it's an alert only a few days left. Thank you so much. So when we went to break, I was talking about this, this satanic force that we've been fighting probably for thousands of years. And how they passed this torch generation to generation. So, when you study a lot of these people, it's really interesting to study their origins. Where did they come from? In the case of Epstein himself.

3:21:04 He was a young man who had faked academic credentials. And I believe he became a math teacher, among other subjects, at an elite prep school in New York called, I believe it was called, it's the Hunter School. It's a prep school in Manhattan. And who was the headmaster or boss of this school? It was Bill Barr's father, who was an old OSSCIA guy. A lot of times, and you see this especially in Ivy League schools traditionally, Yale being a notable example, retired spooks or semi-retired spooks, they get sinecures as tenured professors of history or whatever subject, but they're talent spotters. They're guys that are going to deep select the future spooks and look for the guys with the potential.

3:22:02 So you have somebody like Epstein, who I believe eventually is thrown out of this school when he's getting a reputation for being not very nice around the girls and maybe his academic credentials were forged. But it doesn't matter. Within a decade, he's handling a billion dollar hedge fund where they only deal with billionaires. I mean, this just doesn't happen. You know, George Soros doesn't just come across, you know, the East German or the Hungarian wall as a refugee and a decade later, you know, he's a billionaire and he's got the power to target entire countries financial systems. These people are helped. Doors are open for them.

3:22:51 Even the example I would give, some of these people, maybe they're not necessarily totally evil, but they are certainly evil approximate or they're shoulder to shoulder with a lot of these players. So you get somebody like a Peter Thiel. No computer background, no tech background. He's like philosophy major. I think philosophy and law. Somehow he becomes the head of PayPal and eBay and he's a billionaire and he's got the ability to deep select the next generation.

3:23:27 So he holds these seminars where young leaders are offered a chance to come study under a guru like Peter Thiel and his inner circle. And lo and behold, they find a J.D. Vance. And J.D. Vance, all the doors begin to open for him. And maybe it's all great. Sometimes this mentor relationship Works against the the deep state or the you know the evil forces Because some people will actually use this as their launching pad To get to the top circle and then go rogue against the people that mentored them. It's rare, but it happens Vladimir Putin was like the mayor of st. Petersburg Russia after his KGB career and he was a member of he joined the WEF the W E F and

3:24:24 And he was in their young leader program at a point where that was going to open a lot of doors for him and get him to the next level. And it did. And nobody today would say he's a member of WEF. He's probably the biggest enemy of globalism. He's brought Russia back towards Christianity. There's no LGBTQ classrooms in Russia at all. There's no trans tolerance. There's no men and women's locker rooms in Russia, period. Ain't happening. So this is why the same people that loved Russia when it was communist, when it was the USSR, they hate Russia now because it's going against everything that the globalists are for.

3:25:14 So sometimes people will use these globalist institutions or these mentor relationships and then go rogue against their old master. So I'm hoping that that's the case with J.D. Vance. I worry about his origins, but Maybe he's maybe you know it's an example of of a white knight, you know, you know, apprenticing under a black knight but then he actually is a good guy I mean that's what I'm hoping. So always look at the origins and of course you know it'll be noted that.

3:25:51 way more than the proportionate share will be members of a certain religious ethnic group. That is certainly true. There is no getting around that. I mean, Epstein himself as a young man, what Lex Wexner, billionaire, Ohio, Signs over his entire fortune to Epstein power of attorney complete control in what universe does this happen? I mean, it's the nexus of of Intel and and corporate, you know a corporate power and sometimes it's hard to separate them and the founders of Google that began as a military project a DARPA project and

3:26:37 And you can say, well, which is more powerful now? Is it all Intel? Is it all corporate? It's an eternal battle between private power and government power. I watched a video today. Michael Jan is over in the Netherlands, or he was. I think he's in Norway going to Denmark. Anyway, he was with Catherine Austin Fitz for a couple of weeks and they put out a video. It was very interesting. She's a former government insider and now she's warning about this, the globalists closing the trap on us.

3:27:19 And I can certainly see that happening. But yeah, I would recommend watching that video. It's on Michael Yam's YouTube channel and Substack. But yeah, we're in a perilous time. And she points out that there's a constant battle between, and you can break it down into a, you can use as a way of looking at it, just the control of money. If the banks completely control the money, then they control the government. And this is where Catherine Austin Fitz is talking about the coming central bank digital currency, which is going to be rolled out for us whether we like it or not. We'll give them so much control, not only over individuals, but really over governments. It'll be the bankers in essence that are the taxing authority because they can just say,

3:28:14 We're cutting off your money, we're going to allow you to have your money or not have your money. We'll allow you to only have money if you're spending it in your house. You can't leave the country with it. I mean, there's the colonel in Switzerland, I forget his name. It's a short name, begins with B. But he's been doing podcasts about how crazy the Ukraine war is. The man's totally debanked, unless he's found a source of cash. He's essentially a homeless beggar right now. So well-known Swiss military officer, former military officer.

3:28:50 wasn't playing the right tunes, and in the European Union, he can't travel, he can't access his banks. I mean, they can ruin you. Catherine Austin Fitch makes a great parallel in this video. That they're setting up all of these different electronic traps around us. I think that there's a one of the graphics that I sent might show that. But none of these seem by themselves fatal.

3:29:26 But you can you might find them useful like oh i like your coach i like i like tapping my credit card i i you know i like facial recognition it makes things so much easier that's it the solarium report that's katherine austin fits so. When i saw this i immediately thought of a short story that i wrote a couple years ago called trapping feral pigs. The way that they trap feral pigs is they set up a big cage out in the forest, but it's got gates all over it. It's a fenced cage, but with open gates. And they start dumping the corn in the middle, and the pigs are very careful. They look suspicious, but they go in and out. They go in and out. It's like free corn every night. Go in there and get your free corn.

3:30:14 And they don't notice that one by one, these gates are being closed. Until finally, the pigs are so used to going into this cage, there's only one gate left open, and when they're all inside, they close the cage. And that's where we almost are in our technology, that we won't be able to buy or sell, sounds like the mark of the beast, We're all going to have an ID that you can't travel without. That was part of the whole point of the COVID experiment. Can we just prevent people from traveling without some document that we've just ginned up completely unconstitutionally, extra legally? We're just gonna say if you don't have a vaccine card, you can't travel. Will people buy it?

3:31:02 Well, pretty much they did. I know a lot of people that the only reason that they got jabbed and boosted was so that they could go on vacation in Europe. And this has personal consequences even in my own family. This turbo cancer thing is a real deal. So these people will stop at nothing. We've seen with Epstein, just as an example, how evil, there's no bottom to this evil. When I was talking earlier about how gangs will have somebody, a new member, a new prospective member murder somebody. Well, the higher you go up in this satanic pedophile cult, the worse the crime you have to commit to get to the next level.

3:30:14 And they don't notice that one by one, these gates are being closed. Until finally, the pigs are so used to going into this cage, there's only one gate left open, and when they're all inside, they close the cage. And that's where we almost are in our technology, that we won't be able to buy or sell, sounds like the mark of the beast, We're all going to have an ID that you can't travel without. That was part of the whole point of the COVID experiment. Can we just prevent people from traveling without some document that we've just ginned up completely unconstitutionally, extra legally? We're just gonna say if you don't have a vaccine card, you can't travel. Will people buy it?

3:31:02 Well, pretty much they did. I know a lot of people that the only reason that they got jabbed and boosted was so that they could go on vacation in Europe. And this has personal consequences even in my own family. This turbo cancer thing is a real deal. So these people will stop at nothing. We've seen with Epstein, just as an example, how evil, there's no bottom to this evil. When I was talking earlier about how gangs will have somebody, a new member, a new prospective member murder somebody. Well, the higher you go up in this satanic pedophile cult, the worse the crime you have to commit to get to the next level.

3:31:48 You know it the massage is just the entry level thing but eventually you're requesting the jerky which is cannibal meat from from kidnapped children or missing children there's no bottom to this and the higher you go up closer towards that power the worst things you're gonna see and participate in and i think this is why. It's many people have said the full disclosure of the Epstein files could bring down the governments of the West. It's certainly threatening to bring down the government in England right now. And there's one thing particular about this that I hadn't seen anywhere. Somebody just mentioned this to me today and I looked it up.

3:32:36 Epstein's 727 jet, this is not like a Gulfstream. This is like 737 sized, right? But it's older. It was called a TriStar. So it's got two engines on the rear, like a DC-9, but one up in the tail also, like a small DC-10. But something unique about the 727 and the DC-9 and a few other jets, it had a rear door. That a ramp so that if you were in some airport where they didn't have a jetway or stairs, you could use that to get on and off the airplane at any unimproved third-worldy or private island runway.

3:33:20 Well, something unique about that is that you can actually open that in flight. You can't open a side door of a jet in flight and then close it. It's a big problem, wind blowing through. You can open that in flight. People parachute out of that. DB Cooper in the 70s extorted an airplane, had cash delivered, then parachuted out. Movies have been made about it. Well, Jeffrey Epstein, what would he want to do with a door like that? Obviously, it'd be nice for your private island. You don't need a jetway. You've got your own stairs. But you can also toss somebody out of the back, and they're just gone. At 10,000 feet, you don't need to pressurize an airplane. You can just open that and put somebody out of the back, hit the water. If it's deep water, they're never going to surface. They're as gone as gone can be.

3:34:13 If the same group of people that are laughing about and requesting jerky made from people, cannibal jerky, you think that they wouldn't throw little lolitas that are unwanted, that are like threatening to become a problem? What's the easiest way to get rid of them? Pitch them out of an airplane like that. I mean, of all the jets that Jeffrey Epstein could have bought, that's a pretty rare. There are not many of them still flying from based on its age. Why would he pick that jet of all the jets? What's more convenient than a door where you can just pitch people out? A year or two ago when I was watching Dan Bongino show at the time, you know, no cutesy time is over. He was going to really shake up the FBI that Dan Bongino.

3:35:02 He said that a Secret Service agent who was in Bill Clinton's detail, this is post-presidency Bill Clinton, flew on the Lolita Express several times. And that Bill Clinton was seen to go into the rear private bedroom quarters on the Lolita Express. presumably with the young ladies. This is according to Dan Bongino, so it's total hearsay. It's Dan Bongino quoting an unidentified Secret Service agent. But apparently the back of the Lolita Express is the private bedroom quarters. Well, where are you gonna get rid of somebody better than at 10,000 feet over the ocean? So you're just approaching your island, it's 1,000 feet of water, pssh, out you go.

3:35:51 And the people that are on the airplane that are knowledgeable about this, you think they're going to talk about it, they might be the next one out the door. You never know when you get on that airplane. You may not get off that airplane on the ground. And the people that are in the know, the more that they know as they get introduced deeper and deeper into all of this, the harder it becomes to get out. It's like a Chinese finger trap. It's a ratchet effect. The more you know, yeah, you have more knowledge that you could pin on Epstein and his gang, but they've gotten, they know that you were involved in all of this and you're going to say that? And so you get on that airplane, you never know if you're going to land on the ground or in the water. I mean, that's just a theory, but it's pretty compelling to me.

3:36:44 I listened to Robert Barnes, he's always a great guest. I think he's one of the smartest lawyers around, smartest people period. Follow him on X, watch him whenever he's on Alex or other shows. He uses the term now, the Epstein class. And so does a Brit that I follow on X named Paul Weston. Paul Weston said the ruling class in the West would be better termed the Epstein class. This is like shorthand for these satanic pedophile greedy billionaire vampires This is who is running our world and that's why it's gonna be um, it's a it's a it's a titanic battle between good and evil that's what it is and and I think that calling this the Epstein class is

3:37:35 It tars them where they should be tarred. And the only way that Trump is going to get that tar off of him is to go full disclosure. But I really, I don't think that he is because he's surrounded by, I think, members and a lot of his friends are members of the Epstein class. You know, Whitcoff, who do we have negotiating the Ukraine war deal and the potential Iran war deal? Kushner and Whitcoff. Who's his commerce secretary? Lutnick. Who's his gatekeeper, chief staff officer? Suzy Wiles, a fervent Christian Zionist. So if the

3:38:21 You know, the worst part of this blood trail leads back to Mossad and Israel. That's another reason why they're going to keep it under wraps, the full extent of this. Because if the American people and people in the world begin to think that at its root Epstein is an Israel operation, then that breaks the link between America and Israel forever. That would break it. Americans would say, we're done. We're just done. And now we're actually on the verge of potentially entering a completely catastrophic war on behalf of Israel, 100% on behalf of Israel. It would have already happened if Trump hadn't been getting other counsel from the military, telling him how risky and dangerous this is. See, for Netanyahu, there's no downside.

3:39:17 They can't take on Iran without the full force of American power. And if it works, and the victory for Israel would be defined as wrecking Iran. They're not looking for Thomas Jefferson to be elected. If Iran is broken into five or six warlord states, if it's a complete catastrophe like Syria, That's what Israel wants. Israel's definition of success in Syria is going from a stable regime, you may not like Assad, but a stable regime where people aren't just burned to death on the street for being the wrong religion, to being a disaster, a catastrophe.

3:40:05 And that's what I think they want for Iran. Iran is the last big threat posed to Israel because of its ballistic missiles. And they have extremely good ballistic missiles. On the other hand, we may be exposing our weaknesses if we join in this war with Israel against Iran. It may be exposed that our military is somewhat of a decrepit paper tiger in the sense that aircraft carriers are not that useful anymore. The aircraft carriers have to stay practically at maximum range away from Iran. Their aircraft can't only have like an 800 kilometer combat radius. That's well within Iranian missile range.

3:40:55 You know, we have bases all over the Middle East that Iran can target. Iran in the 12-Day War proved that they can hit individual point targets, which is a really critical distinction. If you have to fire 10 missiles at a target to have a chance of one of them doing damage, the math is against you. But if your accuracy improves to where you can aim one missile at one building and hit it, And the defense has to fire two defensive missiles at every incoming missile. We run out of FADs and Patriots long before Iran runs out of ballistic missiles. And there's something that happened at the end of the 12-day war. That's Iran's newest, biggest truck-mounted missile. So when you look at that, that has a solid rocket, a solid propellant.

3:41:50 As opposed to the old Scuds we remember from Desert Storm. The Scuds had to be lifted vertical and then fueled with liquid fuel, which took a long time. These solid fuel missiles can just roll out of a cave or a hiding place, erect and fire in minutes. and we're not going to be able to stop them. We couldn't even stop the Houthis from blocking the Red Sea. The only reason the Red Sea is open now is the Gaza war is over. While Israel was bombing the crap out of Gaza with American bombs, that was when the Houthis were blocking the Red Sea. We never stopped them from blocking the Red Sea. They lifted their missile barrage when the Gaza conflict wound down.

3:42:38 But we couldn't even keep ships going through the Red Sea. If Iran goes to war with us, they can absolutely close the Strait of Hormuz. There is nothing we can do to stop that. They can close the Strait of Hormuz for weeks or months. Even if we turned Tehran into a glass parking lot, it would not open the Strait of Hormuz. Because the Revolutionary Guard missile crews that are all over the Iranian side of that dog-legged turn of the Strait of Hormuz, hiding in cliffs and caves,

3:43:17 They will have standing orders to not stand down under any circumstances, no matter what happens, and wait until the 30th day or the 40th day to go out, look for a ship, and shoot it. There is no chance of us forcing open the Strait of Hormuz against Iran. We couldn't force open the Red Sea against the Houthis. The Houthis are like an elementary school soccer team. And the Iranians are a pro football team. The whole paradigm that we've existed with since World War II, that America is the sole superpower, we just dominate everywhere we go, no matter what, we're going to win, that paradigm may be disclosed as being completely obsolete. Like you've got a great horse cavalry, but now it's the era of the machine gun.

3:44:14 So I really hope we are not led into a disastrous war against Iran. It will be multiples worse than Iraq or Vietnam. And if anybody says like these idiots on Fox News like General Keane, that we can win with air power and force a regime change and come out to a better outcome, they are smoking crack. Absolutely, that would be a disaster. Anyway, we'll see you again. I've got all these books you can buy, which are great. All kind of deals.