EXCLUSIVE INTEL: "We're Watching An Agency Discredit This Administration Because They Default To Defending The Agency... They've Never Worked For The President... But All Of This Stuff Ends Up Falling Down On One Person At The End Of The Day- It Falls Down On Donald Trump!"

00:00 We're watching an agency discredit this administration and discredit anybody that wants transparency. They're like, you want transparency? Here's 3 million files with zero explanations- You predicted 11 months ago we gotta find that interview! And it was kind of novel to me man who they did he said no no they got bad guys in the middle level, they're setting them up every step of the way. All of these people have compromise on them all of them default to defending the agency and if that means that they're going to discredit the people that are at the top of the agency that say that they were gonna go do something whether it be a Bongino or whether it'd be a Patel or whether it'd be a Bondi doesn't really matter and you know at the end of it all falls on Trump At some point when you're the boss And Trump has had atrocious handling of DOJ basically since 2017

00:41 They have never worked for him. They've always worked against him, they've always gone out there and looked at him as an enemy and treat them as such and like his own quote unquote DOJ was the one he put Chris Ray into office. Chris Raves is the guy who signs off on the- The former FBI guy that ran the fake Russiagate, they brought him back. They're bringing back all the top enemies right now. The FBI has never been reformed it is undefeated at the middle level where all of the people who run it so when this looks like a complete shit show and thats what it looks like to me when I read these things and all this stuff they dumped out there And they've been acting like there was nothing and made Thomas Massey go through with the transparency act

01:20 All of this stuff ends up falling down on one person at the end of the day. It falls down on Donald Trump, who is theoretically the chief executive in this country. The guy had a moment where he got shot, got down and his underlying instinct was not to roll over or not to say oh shit, not to hide but to stand up and be defiant And that is an utterly American thing. You can't train that, but that's not political instincts which is what they were trying to do. That's what happens when you strip away everything I've seen people near death and if you have a couple of moments... And my buddy pulls me off and he goes, good news bad news. Bad news is you're all banged up. You got slices all over your arms. You're bleeding. You've got rock stuck in your face and shit like that. And you're a mess I go okay what's the good news? He goes the good news is that when you think you're falling to your death, you sound like Arnold Schwarzenegger and not like a woman because he said you screamed like a man who was gonna fight till the end of it. You were gonna fight them out and all the way down. Okay well there's that when you peel off that moment you can't fake it. You know about Schwarzeneggers predator scream and predator- That's it! That's what I did

02:21 Like that's what I sounded like falling off the wall. Donald Trump had that same exact instinct, he got shot in the ear and he's got Secret Service throwing their body on top of him and then you guys are showing on the screen what does he do? He stands up and puts his hand in the air and says we're not done yet! We're not gonna let this be the end That's an instinct that we are not seeing right now. What we're seeing is sort of like a guy who was like phoning it in and maybe he's getting victories, but you can't say everything is great and we did the best thing ever And America has saved because I'm here You're like America is on a fight for survival That's what Americans think that's what my neighbors think Who have lost their jobs and are trying to figure out this economy is rough for regular people

02:58 We're willing to fight. We know you've done some good, but the war hasn't been won we're in the second quarter stop saying we won the war The problem is people have gone one of two ways since what happened in 2020 and the weird stuff that happened In 2021 where the government came in with overwhelming censorship and mandated vaccines And a bunch of other crap that nobody wanted and they did this thing To the point where Americans went okay there are basically two forks in the road One fork is I don't believe anything that anyone tells me no matter how much I like them. And so, I'm going to be a skeptic and I'm always going to critically evaluate and so you got to prove it to me tell me that sounds good show me the evidence and i'll make a good decision. So that's where the sensible people go in some of your audiences there but there's going to be some of the audience because they're everywhere

03:41 and we run into them all the time. The people that go, the rules have been broken, the social contract is broken and violated, and they're willing to lie to me about everything so reality is just negotiable? So screw it I'm gonna just believe anything that I want and I can believe that Donald Trump is paying 15 D chest or I can believe that we're all going to die or I can believe that you know that were actually being run by a simulation and Elon Musk's his pulling the trigger like I don't know People can believe whatever crazy thing they want, and there's a huge percent of Americans that have just opted out. They're no longer gonna think- No I agree with you and I'll tell you why they're taking either one of the two groups. They're exhausted and some of them don't have the research they now know they've been lied to so it's easy to say everything is fine or everything is screwed then we study stuff all day and were sorry that truth is complex and sometimes we don't have all the answers but thats reality.

04:33 Yeah, well if you study every ancient culture before they collapsed they became what you could call satanic. And all the stuff described in the Bible they basically dug up mollick bail sacrifice and kids to them so I haven't even scratched the surface on all these documents or the jerky being delivered or sending it into the lab and it's stem cells its Peter Nygaard stuff and then I've got giant stacks here of him buying babies and talking to women that well you're gonna pay me more. Well no I didn't promise that, I've already paid you in Zorro Ranch and then police reports, MPI reports going back 15 years 10 years Women saying just what's in the reports And then we've had one of the victims on and she was saying it year ago Yeah I was at Zorro Ranch, I was in a lab they were doing all this He's got all these labs there not just dental chairs This is so evil But

05:36 I called Kyle Serafinier yesterday and I called some other folks who I won't name, who are experts on this stuff. Talked to DOJ folks, I talked to him former FBI agent and I said just had it here we'll pull it back up here it is a little bit going on here um I mean just one of these things would be a giant investigation my head is spinning And yeah Todd Blanch has killed everything Trump did not know that he basically removed basically fired without doing it removed him from the weaponization board uh Ed Martin I'll just leave at that And I asked him about, you know this document was I reading this wrong? And he said no because he knows all the codes.

06:22 And I said, well taken with Blanche saying there are no victims and there's no crimes in here. We know there are having Bondi say over and over again undercover and on TV at least three times and a press conference that's five times since played it last hour that now we've seen Epstein abusing hundreds of kids and we got names they're all in trouble out is in a cabinet meeting months later Oh No! That was just child porn. There's no victims and then the deer in the headlights Bongino and Patel He acted alone, he wasn't a human trafficker. He didn't have accomplices, he killed himself. Crooks acted alone just and both of them look like they had guns in their hands. I mean, a three year old caught stealing cookies out of the cookie jar does a better job lying? I'll say this, I don't think they're very evil people cuz they are the worst liars that I've ever seen in my life.

07:14 And I don't think Bondi's been involved because she's like, yes, I've seen it. It's terrible they're all going to jail and later on no one did it. I mean its literal Keystone Copville and that's a man for the victims. I wanna bring down the globalist another Democrats but he ended a huge victory cuz 99% of this is them all the real stuff. Instead The White House couldn't have handled this worse now attached itself by extension being accomplices after the fact. Look Trump's good at what he's good at but everybody thinks you place 10 D chess everything he doesn't Negotiations, business common sense stuff. Yeah he's good here Trump you know he's like I've been looking at this and people that are there yeah he doesn't He's like i didn't do anything i'm sick of this they say malign is a whore in there screw this and i'm sick of this i mean i'm sick of that crap hello And then he'll go release it all they go well there's much stuff about you he goes what? So It doesn't matter i know what's going on

08:07 And it's been handled wrong, and it gets worse and worse. Trump has like eight bear traps on his legs now. This is killing us in all the polling numbers. And everybody's diverted onto the cover up instead of the Democrats through their eyeballs. So I like Massey and I like them all but I noticed that MTG left Congress told Massey at X post now that Congress can get in and see the redactions go look at jerky Look at pizza But also look at the CIA aircraft in Ohio that he was running and Lex Wexner. I mean, my point is all the stuff we're focusing on is diversions. Oh! Lutnig lived next door and out of all these businesses they were a co-investment company that was a venture capital but it had hundreds of investors. I'm not defending Lutnig if he's guilty getting there's nothing there that I've seen. Meanwhile, we've got...we've got the sex slave with the Hyatt. The financing handled yes I just bought three more babies

09:04 Who are you telling that to? SWAT team them now. And if I don't come out and say that, I am not a part of this." And so I'm done if I don't start seeing... By the way, I've had the White House call me since we were on and I've had 50 minutes of show The Atlantic call me. I haven't had The Atlantic monthly called in 10 years because I started the show saying I'm about to get into Lorraine Powell jobs. We'll get into that but let me shut up and go to Kyle Serafin, thekyleserafinshow.com the call service show.locals.com on exit, call Serafin batting a thousand callserviceshow.com on rumble forward slash call seven Kyle. You just heard my rant. We talked an hour yesterday and we've been texting a lot. He reached out to your people you've seen all this. What do you make of all this? What are you making them? Just stall touches flew out throughout it. And what do you think we should focus on because there's a lot to look at here. There's too much to look at that's the whole point I think is what you and I are recognizing. And I hadn't written seeing those emails that you were covering last hour.

10:07 They're absolutely bizarre. I did a little experiment because I was really curious, like does the word pizza randomly appear in emails that i'm sending to friends and family members? So I went through my Gmail you know you got like five six years of your history of your life and whatever kind of transactions you have so I just type in the word pizza I want to see what's going on when do I talk about pizza is that a thing that I do pretty much when I'm going to a pizza place like it's the order from the pizza place it's the receipt from the place if I bought it online and they send me an email you know that's That's the only time that I reference pizza. I don't bring it up with friends, it doesn't come up unless we're going to a place that we know and it's like hey are gonna go to Pine House? Yeah, we're gonna go to Pine House okay cool like I'll see you there well if you want to order first this is what we order we like pepperoni and basil but like it's actually really... You read it and you'd go that makes sense! I get that

10:53 a couple of regular people. I don't have discussions about jerky unless i'm ordering beef jerky, I used to work with a beef jerky sponsor so sometimes we do that or my wife would be like hey we have to order more... We ran out but you're not! We're gonna send the jerky to a lab oh I sure need more right walking the jerky up or we've got one slice it's glowing and loving it's really good but the seven of you have to share it It's the weirdest shit you've ever seen in your life. And so here's the problem with all this, and this is what you and I were talking about yesterday. So we'll make it available to the audience kind of just like this freewheeling thought process. There are people that spent literally years investigating this. You've had a few minutes look at it. It's been out for a couple week and half two weeks. So you're looking at 3 million plus documents

11:37 What about the people that lived and breathed this as case agents, that every single day looked at it and tried to suss out what everything meant? And put in order. And knows why those emails were there and how they were gotten too. And what the analyst did when they ran through it. Why do we not have a briefing at the very minimum. Because we got Pam Bondi saying things that are conflicting and I'm sure she got briefings and they seem like they must be different each time, I don't think Pam Bondi has any idea what's in there. That's just my guess. I don't think Cash Patel knows what's in there. I don't think Dan Bongino knows. I don't think the current FBI deputy knows I would bet you that a very small number of people who know what the case actually was, knows why any of that is there. Where are the search warrants? Didn't they go to Zorro Ranch? Don't we have the belief that they went there and did that? They didn't- We know they grabbed hundreds of hard drives and- So where are the pictures from those because there should be entrance pictures

12:29 Whenever you do a search warrant, first you do a tactical clear. So you hit the door, you go through, you secure it and make sure there's no human beings hiding places that can jump out and hurt you. And then you go through and take pictures of every single thing as it is all what they call establishing shots from the outside of the street all the way in through the entire search. Then you go and you do your searches and find your evidence or whatever you're going to take with you and document what that is. Then you take pictures as you leave I haven't seen those pictures. Where are those? Are they in the archives, are they part of the 180 thousand? Why do we not just get someone say look this is the curated guide to what we gave you This tranche of emails means the following things This is what we ran down this is why these names were redacted This is what we discovered that basically has no bearing on the topic It's a code word for drugs it's a codeword for something else Sure well let me tell you Let me tell you It'd be so easy to do Alex Not great but lemme tell ya I don't wanna call myself an expert

13:23 But compared to most people I am, It's in FBI manuals that this is the stuff going on. It's very clear what they're doing We have Podesta, we have emails that are confirmed where they're like The 7-9 11 year old will be delivered to the Woodland secluded area To the pool for your entertainment They're well trained but they aren't children And then his brother all into pedophilia and publishing stuff with The Washington Post You know with kids being tortured and calling it dangerous art And the whole group and the whole thing I mean And it's Hillary and all of them. We know what they're doing, okay? They talk about Alistair Crowley- No I agree with you that... What I'm saying is.. Yeah I'm not discrediting any of that Why didn't they put the people who work on this stuff for a living All the stuff i've learned over 30 years and then its like It mirrors whats in this even the same players whats in the wiki leaks so Its definitely Beyonce

14:16 100% that all the people that have been sort of downplaying it and acting like this wasn't a possible, you know. That is completely impossible and obviously just talking about food and all the same code words pop up whether its grape soda or hot dogs or even reading pulled pizza and pasta and also other kind stuff All of these things are not being addressed and they could be very easily explained. It's like we know what they mean, we have an entire division in the FBI that does violent crimes against children. And they investigate this and their based out of Maryland that I got my quantical roommates spent eight years there as an analyst. They are experts on the dark web and what gets passed around and how things get set up freaking the FBI runs half of those sites is as-

15:00 Politico, I mean political lady. We covered this last week she had a website that literally basically advertised small children it said here are the children for your parties I mean, they're not. The thing is- This stuff is not unknown and the point of it is why did the Attorney General get garbage? Why was she out saying one thing changing her story consistently moving there's files on my desk we've got a client list there is no client lists all the whole thing she wasn't apparently part of the final memo that went out in July last year. What I'm asking you as I understand the process and all that why would Trump attach himself? Why would they start covering this up when it's all Democrats to boot And I guess what you're saying is they're all compartmentalized. That's kind of come out of just incompetent and

15:43 And I'm not defending him, the Democrats- This goes back as far. This is as far back as we've talked about this. The same process is going on Alex. We're watching an agency discredit this administration and discredit anybody that wants transparency there like you want transparency? Here's 3 million files with zero explanation. You predicted 11 months ago...we gotta find that interview. That was kind of novel to me man who they did he said no no they got bad guys in the middle level they're setting them up every step of the way I'm currently fixated on the guy that's about to become the assistant director of the criminal investigation division. And his name is Heath, either Yankee or Janki it's J-A-N-K-E and

15:00 Politico, I mean political lady. We covered this last week she had a website that literally basically advertised small children it said here are the children for your parties I mean, they're not. The thing is- This stuff is not unknown and the point of it is why did the Attorney General get garbage? Why was she out saying one thing changing her story consistently moving there's files on my desk we've got a client list there is no client lists all the whole thing she wasn't apparently part of the final memo that went out in July last year. What I'm asking you as I understand the process and all that why would Trump attach himself? Why would they start covering this up when it's all Democrats to boot And I guess what you're saying is they're all compartmentalized. That's kind of come out of just incompetent and

15:43 And I'm not defending him, the Democrats- This goes back as far. This is as far back as we've talked about this. The same process is going on Alex. We're watching an agency discredit this administration and discredit anybody that wants transparency there like you want transparency? Here's 3 million files with zero explanation. You predicted 11 months ago...we gotta find that interview. That was kind of novel to me man who they did he said no no they got bad guys in the middle level they're setting them up every step of the way I'm currently fixated on the guy that's about to become the assistant director of the criminal investigation division. And his name is Heath, either Yankee or Janki it's J-A-N-K-E and

16:24 He's the guy that's the special agent in charge of the Phoenix office right now. And so he just became a prominence because he's doing all the PR push for the Nancy Guthrie kidnapping, Samantha Guthrie situation like he's out there talking in front of the press and then everyone starts emailing me who this guy is and I start getting these tips from all my sourcing and in the Kansas City division where he worked and it was a scumbag. It's like All of these people have compromise on them. All of them default to defending the agency and if that means that they're gonna discredit the people that are at the top of the agency, that say that they were gonna go do something whether it be a Bongino or whether it'd be a Patel or whether it would be a Bondi doesn't really matter and you know what? The end of it all falls on Trump At some point when you're the boss And Trump has had atrocious handling of DOJ basically since 2017

17:10 They have never worked for him. They've always worked against him, they've always gone out there and looked at him as an enemy and treat them as such and like his own quote unquote DOJ was the one he put Chris Ray into office. Chris Raves is the guy who signs off on the- And that's all another subject you pointed us out. The former FBI guy that ran the fake Russiagate, they brought him back. They're bringing back all the top enemies right now Okay, here's how crazy it is. This guy I'm gonna call him Janky because i don't know how to pronounce his name. I don't know if the jay is a h or whatever else but Janky who's out in that he's a special agent charged in Phoenix okay? He was brought back into the FBI on the recommendation of a guy named Aaron Tapp. Aaron Tapp was removed by Kash Patel because he was the deputy assistant director at criminal investigations while they were doing Arctic Frost

17:54 So everybody got all up in arms, they're spying on these Republicans. They're going out and getting the phone records and all this kind of thing. They got rid of Aaron Tapp meanwhile, Aaron Tapp's buddy who got kicked out of the FBI for sleeping with a colleague who was married to a cop in the town and had to leave because of adultery. He was also married at that time, and that's one of those big no-nos in national security. If you're willing to cheat on your spouse then we pretty much can assume that you'll cheat on the country because if you lie to the person that you owe your life too and that you're supposed to be sworn and wedded to like why would you care about this nebulous concept of America? This is one of the reasons that they actually look for adultery, is because Robert Hansen was flagged for that. So they always look for sort of marital infidelity as an indication of national security threats. This guy had to leave the bureau

18:37 And he left, then he got brought back in because Aaron Tapp said so. They kicked out Aaron Tapp and now they're promoting him to be the top guy in the criminal investigation division that the FBI has never been reformed it is undefeated at the middle level where all of the people who run it. So when this looks like a complete shit show and that's what it looks like to me when I read these things and all this stuff they dumped out there and they've been acting like there was nothing and they made Thomas Massey go and put through with the transparency act All of this stuff ends up falling down on one person at the end of the day. It falls down on Donald Trump, who is theoretically the chief executive in this country and you can blame it on Bondi and you can blame it on Blanche. You could blame it on Patel and you could blame it on Bongino. You could blame all the people that have been the delegated managers that were meant to handle it but At some point The Buck has to stop with the Chief Executive- Well remember 11 months ago they came out said oh no there's no new victims There are no new files

19:30 And I went, that's Trump. And remember he got mad at me and two days later he goes no it is me. They put fake stuff in it's Russiagate for him, its a hoax on him but doesn't matter now by him doing this he makes himself by extension what do you think the FBI was thinking when they released 3 million files which I get to Herculean task and they didn't know hundreds of emails about buying children? Hundreds of emails from him about sending blood product through the mail to rich people. I mean, they don't know- Some people knew. Well so because this is all the well known stuff Somebody put that in the file Alex somebody serialized that document somebody captured those emails and made them part of it whether it was a search record or a subpoena Sure but what I'm saying That points against a cover up Or are they so confident they control corporate media that none of that will get covered? Because I'm telling you right now I keep searching during the break there's no corporate media picking up

20:25 Why are there thousands of references to beef jerky? Why are there hundreds of references him buying children, him himself with women saying hey you didn't pay me the full amount. Well okay but that really wasn't a deal and I'll show these in a minute. This is sensationally evil stuff! There are multiple tiers of what's happening here. Number one was there was an investigation and we don't have transparency on what that investigation was about, what they uncovered, what the final result was? The odds of it being politically stifled is very high now who did it and when that also should be part of the story because what we're finding out is that the emails that went back and forth between Patel and Bondi they were not included in this tranche of documents that were released so you know, the mainstream media doing their own kind of meta coverage going like hey, we're missing some parts to it

21:09 What we're missing also is the context of what was done, why? How they were gathered and what they were attempting to prove. And then the question is where are they presented to United States Attorney's Office which ones? Why did the United States Attorney's Office think that there wasn't enough to pursue an actual indictment somewhere? Why did they discontinue the prosecution- Which is- Exactly, in corporate media only focusing on or the politicos covering their ass instead of who covered up with crimes. And then larger, we hear there's 3 million more files Kyle There may be tons of it and here so that's part one. So part one is the actual case as it was run by the people that were trying to get to the bottom whatever was going on, and I don't have any reason to think those people are operating in bad faith because I don't know him.

21:53 political activists, not generally speaking. They're people that get assigned a task and then they do it sort of diligently and to greater or lesser competencies they are attempting to find out what the answers are to the questions that are presented in we have an investigation was this federal crime actually committed? And is there evidence to support us going into prosecution? That's what they do Okay, and there's no real politics necessarily involved in that. Then you get to the political level and the political level is as well can we continue on with this? Can we actually do this presentation to United States Attorney and are they willing to go out there and present it through a grand jury? Is there actually evidence of the crime and if so are we willing to go out there and take whatever that hit is? Are we gonna let it happen? his main justice gonna let it happen? And that's another question, cuz there's plenty of examples of things that happened under the Biden administration that got squashed. Or what I was told whether it be about Hunter or whether it'd be about Jim Biden and other things he was like nope they're not gonna do that.

22:42 That's not happening. And we're stuck in the area of why were these things redacted and who was in charge of that? Well, as far as I understand it, the person who ran the redaction program is a woman named Shannon Perry. And you don't hear her name in the media and it's only being talked about by me and a couple people that were in the FBI but Shannon Perry was the special assistant for operations under Chris Wray under the last administration. She's not an FBI agent she's not a sworn law enforcement officer she was a German linguist that came into- We have still the Democrat Party operatives

23:27 Just like we had Comey and his daughter, you're still in control as gatekeepers. Yeah. Alex all the people that were the every single person that is a manager of any sort of seniority in the FBI got there under either Comey or Ray still and I'm going to keep beating on that drum because it's true. So let me ask this question because I know you're an expert on the minutiae that support people here but big picture this was a dad uses American citizens are veteran. The political fallout of this If Trump thought Epstein was a problem, it's ten times worse now. This is completely exploded. The Democrats are celebrating the diverting and all into the DOJ cover up when we have the holy grail of all these top Democrats involved in money laundering and human trafficking. It's if he had a DOJ would do his job they'd all go to jail that he has by the balls so but instead they've got him by the balls now for the cover-up And it's only so how does Trump extricate himself or

24:26 Might be too late. I mean, he's decided his option is to attack Tom Massey that's what it looks like. That's the advice that someone gave him- Which only makes him look ten times more guilty! It makes him look very guilty the guy who out there you know You don't have to like Tom Massey but i do At the end of the day Tom Massey did what? He and Ro Khanna pushed forward The Epstein Transparency Act You only got a couple people from the Republican side of it And then the Senate overwhelmingly pushed it through and then Trump signed it so You know, Trump can say hey I signed it because I believe in the principle of it. But all he keeps doing is say why are we not moving on from this? It's not going to go away because it represents something that is that is wholly scandalous to the American psyche, to regular people that are not interested in politics they don't care about left or right what you're trying to say with with the idea that let's move on from this Is

25:12 That there should not be public accountability for very wealthy people who experience a different system of justice than you or even me or whatever else. This has become the total litmus test, and now- They just have- We know that there's two tiers of justice, Alec. We know that there's two tiers of justice what this thing has done is it shown people that not only are there two tiers but we're gonna tell you about it and we're gonna spit in your face and we're gonna tell you there's nothing you can do about it because even if they pass a law to show all this stuff we're still going to cover the names of the people who were involved with things that are weird Or they could have given context to it and explain why they redacted them, and how they actually found exculpatory information. Found that the things that you think they are not really there or these were fake emails or their place by somebody- You're on fire but we got it. So both of those things could be true. They didn't do any of those things. They failed to get ahead and actually control any of it. We gotta go right now It's just you and me speculating I want to come back A lot has developed as you were just on. But you said Ghislaine Maxwell testified secret The Democrats just came out saying Trump is at center of cover up

29:13 I just know that the confirmed stuff in here, we haven't even scratched the surface on is so horrible. And the fact that we're not learning the names of who these people are and you know the Democrats they're now able to go and look at this Republicans are. The Democrats are gonna go pick and choose and try to find a few Republicans embarrass and if there's something bad about beyond their ass, I'll call for arrest immediately but the Democrats are so energetic You know that if the Republicans would just go down there and you'll look up like MTG said pizza, babies jerky cuz I have this stuff. But it the names are blacked out and you know who it is because you can already figure it out from other emails. And its leftist intelligence here just like in the WikiLeaks when they're almost all over and Alastair Crowley almost all of them are into pedophilia.

30:18 and there are some Republicans have been caught doing that too. But I mean, these people are really as evil as they look in the act and to watch this because this will destroy Trump it destroys legacy for sure. This will lose the Congress and you got the white pillars who just worship Trump and just say shut up its trillion DHS and yeah you'll see unfortunately I'm right. And then you've got The doomers think everything's screwed, just go ahead and get Democrats in. This is a nightmare scenario so Kyle Servants with us he's really smart he goes over all the facts and he's like too much coffee man even worse than I used to be which is fine smart guy wants to explain it all to you but I want to walk through this now at big pieces with him because this just broke So yeah Giselaine Maxwell today she said she was gonna take the fifth the whole time but we're hearing from House Oversight Democrat Representative Skansbury that Trump

31:11 And that there are more than three dozen associates, family members and individuals directly associated with Trump in those files. And that's it, it's not Trump but his people though they're not even a big part of it, It's still there and we now know from some of this come out that even stuff that's not illegal, Trump is one out there The United States government is engaged in an act of cover up of the largest sex trafficking scandal and influence peddling scandal in the history of United States. Donald Trump was right at the center of it, so we'll play what you had to say but imagine this, the Democrats have controlled the files even when Trump was in that's come out they've had it all but because of horrible communications terrible PR Trump doesn't ever come out and say that he just says it's a hoax don't look at it I mean it's like Bongino Don't question me You're all nothing I know everything You're all pathetic

31:58 I've lived a life, you've done nothing. That's the, I would say that if I wanted to commit political suicide and it's like why are they all committing political suicide? And then the Democrats who are the really guilty ones go free and get me their heroes. It's unbelievable here is the Congresswoman we'll call service take on it. We know that there are more than three dozen associates family members and individuals directly associated with Donald Trump named in those files now There are now at least nine or 10 other countries across the world that have opened investigations or forced their leaders to step down because of their mere association with Jeffrey Epstein. And, the United States government is engaged in an active cover-up of the largest sex trafficking scandal and influence peddling scandal in the history of the United States, and Donald Trump is right at the center of it.

32:54 And the person who is living to provide the evidence, who knows what is going on. Is trying to invoke The Fifth to buy her clemency. That's also authoritatively a lot of that's deception Trump should be had his ordering the release of the Wiener laptop that we know is beyond Epstein but no instead he just paralyzed call servant Yeah well What does the word associated even mean I mean all these things are just there It's this internet game of playing like you're connected to or you've been associated with. I get these all the time, people have told me I'm associated with General Flynn. I've met General Flynn for about 90 seconds. I shook his hand he didn't know who I was but it's like

33:37 I knew somebody or I met somebody one time that knew General Flynn. So now, I'm associated with General Flynn and I don't even know what the implications of that were. I just see these things out there this is the same kind of crap so here's the problem they're acting like Donald Trump is at the center of a cover-up well there is a cover up of some kind that's going on and it's clearly happening because there was a crappy rollout of a bunch of information which is too much for any person to handle none of us can handle three million files The people who gathered those files could, they could tell you why they're there and they can at least put it into bite-sized pieces of understanding. But that's not what happened. What we got was they came out specifically under one man's purview. Donald Trump is the president, he is a chief executive in theory even though I don't think in practice, he should be the one in charge of the DOJ and therefore he should also be the one where the buck stops with the FBI. That's not the reality of it but

34:26 But that is who they're gonna pin it on. So that's what they're saying, and we already had what nine hours plus a full transcript and a whole sort of interview and proper session that Todd Blanch did with Ghislaine Maxwell? And she got to move into nicer quarters afterwards and that was kind of weird and interesting. And the question was someone going to suicide or if she can end up dying where she can end up being pardoned which was a big question that people were asking. She had nothing to say but nice things about Donald Trump which Just Donald Trump theoretically is the guy who could partner, he could give her the clemency. But why was she convicted in the first place? And what other information was all involved in this stuff as they went after Jeffrey Epstein both as a guy who was involved with underage prostitutes was the claim in 2008 and then they arrested him again under who Donald Trump's administration. Was any of this stuff released under Biden no

35:15 So when I look at these people saying associated and cover up, and even the mere name like that doesn't fly for me. What flies is evidence and context- Sure but what I'm saying is- But they failed dramatically under- They failed. So what's gonna happen now? You agree this firestorm was going to be incredibly bad Yeah, and Trump is handling his I don't know who's advising him. And you know it? I don't have any skin in the game if Trump wins or doesn't win or succeeds or doesn't succeed. I'm not a Republican. I'm an independent who wants to see the country moved to the right like an actual right wing which we don't have right now. So the right way to handle this would be really simple stop attacking Tom Massey for trying to do transparency stop going after MTG Don't Be Mad at Rand Paul of all people like

35:58 You wanna control this, then get out there and make the FBI do what they should have done in the first place which is explain it. Make the people that are involved in this stuff and by the way how about you got the FBI? And got anybody thats in the DOJ that screwed this thing up- I agree Kyle. That gave bad information to whether be Todd Blanch or gave bad information to Pam Boddy who the hell's briefing these people? Well, let me choose your briefers or the briefers get shoes to get chosen. Those are the people that are running the game if you don't have the ability to read all three 3 million files Alex and you don't I don't and the president doesn't neither does Bondi and either does Patel than the people that are presenting you this is what it means And this is what they're shading around the edges and they're kind of ignoring

36:37 Those people are the ones that are crafting what comes out of the mouths of the people that are going to be responsible. So, the buck should go roll right downhill like think about this if you presented something to your boss and your boss looked like a fool because he didn't have all the information You gave him a bad presentation, you gave him bad numbers He went in front of shareholders or something and then got crucified Would you keep your job if you were a shit analyst? You wouldn't, unless you work for the federal government. In which case you probably get promoted and you get covered and you're fine. And so all those people have been fined for many years. When people bring up Epstein, Trump goes I'm not in there. I didn't do any of it. I'm the one that got him in jail the first time. I don't want to hear about it and so what you have is a mistake? I don't give an F. Well his idea if he doesn't care So it's gonna get bad but going your previous point

37:34 I started seeing last week, oh Jones is in the Epstein files. And I knew like a year ago it came out that people were saying hey Jones was talking bad about you saying you're gonna go to prison okay and he goes yeah that crazy guy Then I found like 15 other emails, all of them not liking me. But you can say Jones is in the Epstein files but they don't show that to you. They just in your window like oohh Jones is- There's videos of Tucker Carlson and the Epstein file but they're from his Fox News show so you can have somebody in a file The question is what is the context and why was it in there? And why did the agent think that was relevant to include as a 1B and put into the evidentiary form Why

38:13 And this is what's missing, the entirety of it. And Donald Trump saying I don't care about this or already handled this or this is some old news that doesn't work he's already seen it. He's been trying to run away from it for nine months to a year and its ineffective so at some point if your tactics are not successful you're gonna have to turn around and own it. The only way you do that in the only way you break through any of this stuff with his actual transparency where people think okay now they're being square with us And it shouldn't be about whether or not people are in the files, or quote unquote associated with anyone. It should be theory of the case what people did bad things? Why were they not prosecuted? Did we miss the statute of limitations if so you know who said don't go on where the declination letters from the prosecutors- Shouldn't Trump let them create an independent commission because he has nothing to hide He needs to hand off responsibility So they can't keep claiming he's covering up

39:05 That'd be great. Yeah, special counsel, special committee hand it all off let somebody who does it for a living go through it? How do you pick the people that are involved in that find people that are otherwise you're gonna have to make it bipartisan It's going to have to be people that are otherwise that are disinterested In anything national politics wise and don't want to gain anything out of it But sure well You and I both said Trump trying to Swim some of the rug because he sees his distraction wasn't gonna work We've been proven right He's just gonna double down but what you just find there is insanity. I'm not saying trump's insane but The definition of-. Doing the same thing and expecting something different to happen, you know what's crazy Alex? I actually had Erica Knight who is the personal PR person spokesperson for Kash Patel and has been for years. Erica Knight is a special employee of the FBI under some weird contract or something like that. And she asked me before Patel got sworn in right before the confirmation. She said how do we handle this Epstein situation? What would you do?

39:57 What's your advice? And I go, well you know. I don't know all the things that are involved but this is what i would do. I would grab a bunch of agents that have a lot of experience in white collar fraud. I'd want some that are involved in transnational organized crime because that seems like it's part of it maybe one or two CI agents that understand the national security implications of it and then people who deal with child pornography and child sex crimes I would get those agents together and a handful of analysts, and I would look at them based on their body of work and their lack of political involvement. And I would sequester them. And I would write off all of the requirements the FBI normally does to bother you with all kinds of nonsense like oh, you have this requirement to watch this training and learn whistleblower training- So you run him off the leash put together a task force? Sequester them. A task force or- That's what I said!

40:39 I said put them in Idaho, put them outside of the circuit. Put them away from Washington DC away from New York City away from where all the politics are and sequestered somewhere where they can do a TDY for however long it takes year 18 months and let just tell people we're getting to the bottom of this. We're gonna go through all of it with fresh eyes with people that are otherwise uninterested. We're going to get some prosecutors from DOJ, some USA's that are going to be assigned to this task force as well, and they will follow wherever it leads And they will personally run down the leads instead of sending it out to the office and wondering what agent's doing it. It's so easy, it's probably- 100 people in here that are obviously trafficking kids. So you would use, I mean this is not that because then they got money laundering and all sorts of stuff. Alex they do this with regular street gangs every single day there is what's called Rico investigations there are what are called talk west or talk east transnational organized crime. The FBI is actually really good at doing long term complex sort of large scale investigations. This is like where their bread and butter is happening

41:38 Yeah, mapping out what is the nature of the crime and the conspiracy? Who's at the top. Who's at the bottom. What are the foot soldiers how do we attack all that stuff and if you got nothing to distract you And your priorities were just come back to us with answers and you what's crazy after I told Erica this stuff She came back to me with a press release within about 90 minutes of having that conversation. And she was like, here's the press release what do you think? And I went no, you can't release something that you're not actually already doing find the people assign them to the thing. You wanna tell people you have a press release, you better have actually done the task force don't just announce the task force and this is where Trump has gotten himself into trouble it's not specifically Trump but this entire administration continues

42:17 send out PR messaging and think that is the victory. Announcing that we're doing something is the something, instead of actually going through and carrying on what they expected you to do. And this is what I keep seeing over and over again it's a disaster because people actually listen to it- They read the headline and they want them to do it. We know there's a disaster, we know it's being done wrong. You're not mad you're doing this but you're kind of going back over that. I wanna get your ideas on new stuff that's unfolding. Trump's not gonna do any of I Versus the point you and I talked about this the other day, you can be outstanding on foreign policy. And you can make great decisions on the world stage that benefit the United States and people used to make that argument about Nixon. That was the argument he was brilliant at it, that he understood what's going on but got caught up in a couple of domestic scandals message them absolutely horribly. Everyone uses Richard Nixon as the person who is commensurate with an absolutely failed president

43:27 presidency, right? He goes down as being a crook. That's the famous thing that people think about whether or not he was capable and whether or not he was sabotaged from the inside which you probably was so you can be great at some things but the one thing Americans regularly look at and they expect you to do is affect things positively if you say them Trump's worst characteristic. And I don't know how he got away with it for so long in the way that he did, because it's really unique. It's an unusual sales tactic and you've done sales and I've done sales usually the best way to do sales is your under promise you over deliver and you overwhelm the customer with experience and getting more than they paid for and make them feel really great about it. Donald Trump does this other weird thing which is not common and maybe its only on highest end of sales where he over promises under delivers then tells people you go a great experience and you know you did

44:15 Look how amazing it is and everybody wants what you have. And then people somehow feel good about it that doesn't actually work on a lot of things, though like where gas prices are or the inflation that goes on in this economy and the basic stuff because our economy has gone on a K shape and there's plenty of different articles I read every single day that basically says people who have above average incomes are doing okay? And people who have below average incomes are not feeling good to your giving ground to Democrats to say He said he was here for the working class. He said, he was here for the blue collar. He said it was here for the guys that have pals on their hands that are working their fingers to the bone and and he's not. And by the way, he's also covering up for pedophiles and child sex traffickers at everyone goes. So then you're going to have a loss. You can have some people that walk away totally and just go

44:56 Nothing you can do. I saw a really great video that was on social media where guy said basically we outsource the revolution in this country, which there was revolutionary fervor in 2024 before the election where people were talking about civil war and a really meaningful way they were talking about a national divorce they've been talking better for last four years. There was this like pent up aggression from COVID and from all the crazy stuff that happened in the censorship lockdown. with a black shirt that says lions, not sheep. Yeah, and what does he say? He says we outsource the revolution to one man. Which is a dangerous thing to do I mean like putting your faith in man is always a dangerous move but human beings always tend to want this king like will someone solve our problems were willing to seed agency if you'll just solve them especially if you say that you can do it and Donald Trump did I mean I've got agenda 47 sitting on my desktop at all times and I open it and I refer to it and he gets like a C minus on there because some of the stuff he did

45:53 100% shut down the border. He went after some of the other stuff, but like some of the things he couldn't do and some of the things I see that he's failed and it's not on his own end because he never was going to be the guy that could do it like fixing weaponized government means you have to understand what the government does. You got to get people in there that are gonna go out there and cut it down. And a Susie Wiles and a Pam Bondi and Todd Blanche and apparently Cash Patel those are not people that are gonna stop weaponize government. So yeah, we outsource the revolution It didn't take place We've been screaming towards something for probably 100 years and Donald Trump didn't start this train, and he's probably not gonna be the last stop on the train. But he's gonna get to blame for it- He better know! But he's gonna catch the blame for it that's it because they're going to do the declassification they're going to show all these files and who is in charge right now? He's going to be that guy that catches it even though the previous administrations could have declassified and didn't could have exposed all this stuff and didn't The guy who went kicking and streaming into it And it looks terrible Right It looks bad to resist it and say that this is done Are we still talking about Epstein

46:48 people can't get over the three things, abusing kids. The sex trafficking of kids and abusing them sexually and then this two tiered system of justice where people that are really wealthy don't have to experience- It's emblematic. I mean, it's the satanic stuff and it's saying we have any he raves hundreds of kids they're all going to jail and saying I never said that. It's also insulting our intelligence but moving on from there is only some other big topics here well let me throw one more thought to you Alex because it went broader and you started the last hour with it and it's really relevant something about societies and civilizations running down to like satanic worship

47:26 It's inevitable, and it always happens. And it's biblical and it's a cycle of humanity so we're living through something that has been done many times there is nothing I mean it starts from the Garden of Eden which my wife and I were talking about earlier. The sin actually this is kind entry this is relevant to Donald Trump scenario right now. The sin was not that Eve took a bite of the apple which was directly like following the words of the devil right? The sin was as that man Adam went along with And then he didn't take responsibility. He tried to blame it on the woman, God's like hey man you got things out of order here this is the mistake that's when man was thrown out of the Garden of Eden and you don't have to believe that story literally to know that the truth of it is there is a big problem because people can do things that are bad but if you can't own it and take management of it which is what we're seeing a failure of

48:14 Then we're gonna have this stray from God, which means we are headed for a biblical correction. And it's happened many times and human beings will continue. It won't be the end of the world or won't be the end of like everyone's live but there's some hardship coming certainly for people that thought they were getting a return to something normal in America and we're not going to get that. Now let me add this. My it's beyond rage. It took a dirty feeling which I hardly ever feel. I'm just so disgusted. The word is disgusting The Democrats openly want pedophilia, they openly wanna sexualize our children. They're part of the left worldwide that's just out in the open and then Trump messes all this up and then they get to look like the good guys and say we're the bad guys and they get away with it. It's just sick

49:00 That is the trick that has played over and over again. This is the devil's trick, I mean it's turning things... It's making you defend something that you didn't do wrong. And this is whether it be Saul Alinsky or you go all the way back through the Old Testament this is a classic move of projecting and then you end up on the defensive when maybe you didn't do anything wrong. Now, I have no idea what Donald Trump did or didn't do and there's too many files there for me to get into but what I do know is that they message it poorly and they didn't take ownership of it and that there's no head roll inside this government- And what I do know is we got the Democrats caught in the most horrible stuff ever and there's not even discussion about other than a show

49:36 Right, nobody is talking about the stuff that you were reading in those emails. What we're talking about is whether or not Lutnick had a nanny that got hired because there's an email somewhere that says the Lutnick nanny between Epstein and some unknown person who knows why or what the context is? Or even if it's the same Lutnick so its smear, its association they're carrying a lot of water with certain words that we saw. And some of those things may turn out like she said family members well how close and how specific current family like what does family members even mean you know i've got family members that I haven't spoken to a brother in nine years. You gotta go out of your own show, you did earlier. I want now would you go through these new emails because

50:15 I didn't even hit the stuff. I've already covered, I've got a whole bunch of new stuff. I mean, I don't know how to read these files. I didn't call them and say what's this code me? Am I right about that? Yeah you're right about that it's kind of simple stuff but also hard because you have to read so much too and you're just like then i go check and see if it is real It keeps being real on the file and I just get worse and worse stay around here we'll come right back to you because I want to hit the trafficking kids and more on the beef jerky and I haven't hit the other stuff

50:56 I mean, there's just so much. How much are the people that took all the flack for pizza gate and everything else like that? Like how many of them are just like having conniption fits right now reading the same thing and seeing it? I punched it. Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no And Anna Kasparian, I remember them all attacking me saying none of it's real. I'm completely insane and now they're the big heroes up talking about it but they're only talking about letting it. Right this again when you let somebody else craft the narrative

51:32 You let somebody else, if you try to avoid that full transparency. I've been reading a bunch of stuff that Serpico said, Frank Serpico the police officer out in New York right? And a lot of the stuff he says is like you can just measure like the weapon of whistleblower and the weapon of cutting through corruption is transparency not fake transparency actual transparency to get to the actual answer without an agenda. It's like, the truth is gonna be the truth. It's gonna hurt some people it's gonna burn some people. So be it, it's going to taint some people just because they're associated with even if they didn't do something terrible let's get it all out there lets rip the band-aid off this what you and I were talking about we've been doing this for nine months now you and I We've been talking about pull the band aid off

56:29 This is a short segment, long segments coming up. I'll get into the new emails that are old but they've just come out But i'l tell you stories when college said that I remembered When I was growing up I wasn't bad like drugs or stealing But I got in a lot of fights and we live in an ice area, Dallas was probably the bad area. And the school was mixed poor and wealthy and a lot of fights it was rough compared to what kind of modern stuff...I don't like to nanny's tape but I'm glad things aren't as violent in general at schools they were in the 80s. But I remember there was kid lived down this road that knew his brother We played some did some stuff together but one time over their house they go look I stole this gun out of the neighbor's car

57:19 And I didn't say anything. Later, his older brother was like you better not say we stole that gun and I went okay and then like a year later the police come to the house knock they don't have a warrant but they said well here there's a gun hidden under your porch it was at this crawlspace my dad says sure go ahead look they pull the gun out They figured out that The kid had lied and ended up going and getting in he got on probation But why would you steal a gun and plant it at my house? Another time, I had a couple years of high school here and a couple years there. I was a freshman in high school and I wasn't like a bad guy but I had some friends that kind of gotten bad, gotten into drugs and stuff

58:03 They were like riding around their pickup truck or something and they're like, I guess once they tell you something they think. Oh my God, I can't trust him. I think that's how it works out of he knows the criminology better than I do. Yeah you love this big boom box? I'm actually makes me sick. That was cool to crank up the rapper loud boom boom and I don't want to do this we always stole this out so about a month later cops call me into the principal's office. Cops goes Alex We heard you stole these boomboxes out at happy country I don't even like mini boxes, what are you talking about? I don't even have a car yet. And they're like okay well whatever but the point was and there was another case of something like that it's just what is that in criminology where somebody tells you about a crime and like they're bringing you into it you don't tell on them then they tell on you or are they setting you up or what is that

58:53 Yeah, I mean, I guess people want to share something. There was a there was this is another one of these toilet books that I remember they said anytime that we're asking for advice we're looking for an accomplice and i think that's what's going on people are looking for someone to share the burden blame you know nobody wants to carry this why criminals get caught all the time they confessed somebody happens all time it happens frequently This is actually the reason I think why he built into the Catholic Church so people can can confess to somebody that's actually supposed hold onto at the secret confessional is something that's supposed to be sacred because People carry around guilt with them and they don't want to be the only one who knows or they're proud of it. I mean, that's the other piece of it Alex is pride right? People get really proud of doing something and they don't want to be the only one

59:32 that knows that they pulled this thing off, heist caper theft. It's like I got to share it with you so you also can know how great I am and so yeah people do this all the time but here is the other thing what i'm thinking principal calls you in one thing now we found a gun underneath you now you've been accused of stealing a boombox now you get your running with his crowd at some point people go like Alex has never done this thing if they're being honest about it and yet you've been accused of and even in the company of those people We get judged by the company we keep. That's been happening forever. No, and that's why my dad sold his dental practices when we moved here he said you're not even bad but they think your bad were leaving

1:00:11 That was my-. That's what happens, that's what a good dad does too is they go and they clean your reputation by they say if you got to start over, you gotta start over I knew a guy who he was in the car when someone did a hit and run and actually killed somebody And so he was forever stained in the area where he was in Montana and his dad picked up His Dad was a former Green Beret picked up and moved him across the country So we didn't grow up with that stain because he wasn't the guy driving and he was traumatized By it at the same time The company you keep does define you which is a lot of what they're trying to do in this Democrats sort of smear job That's what it is. It's like you're associated with these people, but you don't have to have done anything bad to be associated with people. You can have neighbors who did scumbag things and then you find out and you're like yeah I was his neighbor for 10 years and they are like oh you must've known

1:00:53 Well, people keep secrets. This is what people do. Some people go and tell Alex Jones I stole the gun and put it underneath your porch and some people keep that they hold it to their grave and they don't find out until there's a search warrant in the FBI kicks down their door And then you find out what kind of demon they were living next door and everyone always goes man He was always so quiet and I never thought would have never expected that he really kept to himself It was just kind of a quiet guy that you'd never expect that up I mean how many times we heard that news? 60 seconds with these emails well, let me be very clear with everybody Because the media, I mean it's everywhere. I see it on national news. I've been looking at all the big podcasts It's the thing to do because they see me as a Trump supporter They're like oh and Jones is involved in this because he's been saying He doesn't really see Trump implicated any real way But I've been pissed the whole time You know that it looks like a cover-up And I think it's overwhelmingly clear that's going on now and I think it comes from Trump but I don't have to prove myself we've been saying that the whole time We predicted this

1:01:49 It's a real shame, but I want to ask Kyle Serafin former FBI agent and really smart analyst talk show host. What he thinks should be done about this because? I mean just look at these emails OK there's hundreds like this so this is Jeffrey Epstein the people talking he says you mean radiating a soft glow with the look of bliss and excitement yeah that's the pizza and then they're talking about how great it was This is that head count for the pizzas and they're setting up a pizza party, and the pizza's gonna be there but there's gonna be seven people. It's a bunch of emails we gotta share it We got to slice this pizza And it says who all is in the Austin office today who was going to want pizza? We only have one slice and we need to know how thinly to slice it and uh... It goes on on Grr! It's frozen food Mark Lloyd is finance This is from Jeffrey Epstein Lyndon Lee is the mini CO

1:02:52 3-AO, whatever that means. Hyatt is sex slave and I have hundreds of these okay? And then you know we're walking the jerky up to supply it to ya and then we've got... I haven't added the real stuff yet, I mean the hardcore stuff yet There are literally hundreds of emails about buying babies Can bring a little baby back for you or two boys or girls and this is Peggy Siegel Jeffrey Epstein's publicist saying I'm coming back from Africa do you want kids And just guys go to the DOJ website type of sin you're on. These are all real, okay? It goes on and on women saying okay you bought the baby now you're not wanting to pay or you promised to buy the baby our women in police reports saying yeah he took our baby at Zorro Ranch

1:03:40 and breeding babies for Epstein. And it's in the Epstein documentaries, he bought Eastern European girls when they were like 10 and took them back, they still worked for him for decades. I mean this is just baby traveling at Zorro Ranch and again spoke to this going to Zora Ranch. She said on record that Epstein offered her money to do this and it goes on to supply the, then you have the police reports FBI reports then you have him talking about it and it just goes on and on. An email says Epstein 2013 you offered to buy my baby six months ago he responds and says yes but not for the amount you said I mean this is just like this is unbelievable folks This is unbelievable here it is right here You offered by my baby six months into relationship

1:04:28 And he goes, I've already paid you. So and again there's literally in all these different areas hundreds and hundreds on each one but then you get back into the jerky this is Jeffrey Epstein said he was going to start eating regular food again so he might be eating less jerky That said, he has six bags of it in the downstairs freezer for the next trip. I believe it should be enough to get him through any other questions please let me know and then the people he's talking to own restaurants called The Cannibal and then oh they're showing you how to make it at the ranch or trying to make it at the island And then we're mailing it through the mail these rich people really need it You know Oh my God 6 ounces so delicious

1:05:19 I mean, it's just...I have huge stacks of just this over here. Earlier I spilled water on the spax in it Why didn't we get jerky this week? You said you could not do it until today Please explain. Then complain you gave me cold jerky, I want hot jerky Steve needs 6-8 ounces of jerky That'll make it through and sending it to the lab his supposed wife, we're not sure if they were married. They think they were the $300 million to she's all over the jerky stuff and then there's this I'm gonna shut up you call serving the floor on this is where I want to stay okay? This Okay The Atlantic is a CIA top globalist publication it's like the finest hours of London what it says gets picked up Jeffrey Goldberg

1:06:11 came here like 14 years ago, he said he wanted to do a piece on me for it. Back then I still did interviews. He shows up after the show and goes, I'm not here to put you in the magazine. I'm here for Obama and some other people to see if you're dangerous. And I'm sitting there in the conference room right there. So we talk about two hours. He goes well, we'll see what we're gonna Maybe you ought to come to New York sometime. Maybe he was trying to recruit me, and I said listen, I'm not working for any group or any organization. Later they got way clearer years later where we're just kind of world at the time wanted me to have some meeting with the big law firm and they said you're about to get sued destroyed nine years ago, you better do this. And I got sued right after I said no so it's gotten very clear before but I mentioned Lorraine Powell Jobs in the first 10 minutes and I'll show you this

1:07:03 me, is this still your number? This is the Atlantic. We want to talk." So I mean within 15 minutes of me talking about this which haven't gotten to yet the phone starts ringing and then I'm pretty sure when I get three unlisted numbers in a row somebody else calls that are block members at probably The White House but I'll check later there's just lot of stuff went on when I did that like one time I said I'm going to reveal who Q is This is like, you know seven years ago because I was sick of it. All of a sudden the White House is calling because that was something they hatched at first got taken away from they got out of them but the point is Lorraine Powell jobs overhead shot so this is the wife and heir to the Apple she's worth 100 million bucks whatever it is here she is in her bathing suit with the island many times on record or she has what gives Lane Maxwell

1:07:52 Well, here's the article they published two days ago. What everyone assumes about Jeffrey Epstein is that yeah he was a leader but there was no real elite and nothing to see there. Now that's not as bad as stuff they wrote a few years ago in 2022 The Great Fake Child Sex Trafficking Epidemic Now they never mentioned the owner of The Atlantic is a big frequenter of the island and all the rest of it or Jeff Goldberg and all his CIA Massad used to run an Israeli torture prison. He said, we didn't torture okay right? But but the point is how dumb do they think we are that people aren't going to look this up and how crazy within 15 minutes of me saying I was gonna cover this The Atlantic's calling what do you make of that Kyle Serafin thanks for sitting while I ranted

1:08:37 No problem. This actually tells you that there is still some vestigial power in the mainstream media And I think that's the thing that's hardest for guys like you and I to grasp. Because if I read something in CBS or NBC or ABC, or MSNBC, or New York Times, or whatever, like The Washington Post, I immediately come at it from a skeptic perspective. I do that with everything. If you tell me something Alex, I'm skeptical just as just the way I am. If somebody tells me something and I'm like oh, I want to believe that, that sounds like stuff that I would believe my first move is why do I wanna believe that? How do I question it Can it be disproven? That's how a good investigator looks at things. In fact, the easiest way to prove your case is to try to find exculpatory information and come up empty.

1:09:22 That's the way that you would do it. And I've done that before and I found things where i was like, oh, I thought this was really true. It looked really bad. The allegations were salacious. The information that I presented is very credible and it was bad. Then you find some exculpatory stuff to go with it. I just didn't have the entire picture sometimes when you zoom out enough you can see it so there is power in the Atlantic. There is power in these mainstream publications. There are people out there who think that I'm relevant today and some of them are in my own family, like my wife's you know, my father-in-law. My wife's dad will he'll be like, I saw y'all over the New York Times like it's that's cool to see your name or whatever it's like My name has been all over media for the last three and a half years. It's always out there, why is it interesting? Because it's The New York Times and that's what he considers to be a credible source. And there are a lot of people that still look to these Atlantic and so on, they can move the needle dramatically. So how stupid do they think we are? I think they're taking people at their actual word which is that most people in America are headline readers only. Alex, don't ever get deeper than that

1:10:23 They just don't. They read the headline, and that's the whole story. And if the headline is a clickbait headline and the story itself actually debunks the headline inside of it they never even get there. This is that actual info war which is you know the aptly named channel name that you guys came up with a long time ago. The info war is can you convince people to distrust their own eyes? Can you tell people something that is utter BS that holds no gravity and make them walk out and believe it, and fight. I got a text message today or not text message, DM from someone saying, Serafin you were removed for negligence from the FBI. And then was like really? I'm always curious when I see these things as they tell me more at day like you negligently handled the firearm. The records are all over the internet. And I was please post links. I do wanna see these things

1:11:13 People will, I have no idea what the guy's referring to. The odds are it was like disgraced testimony from a woman who got removed from the FBI because she was a day drunk. That's what I think happened but he truly believes that thing i'm sure of it and there are plenty of people that do they read the headline It was a fake sex trafficking ring This has all been debunked. Everything about it was not real, the things that Alex Jones is talking about for years of garbage and then you go and you see the actual emails released on the DOJ's website with no context, no understanding we don't know what they're talking about like but we don't have any explanation. You didn't have the FBI file which should be like the serial that came along its like we gathered these emails these are 50 references to jerky. We've

1:11:53 We believe based on all the information we've done, the interviews that we've done of the people that wrote them. That this is what it meant. This is how they explained it but this is like the normal background here's what the Intel analysts say about this type of operation and it means children or human flesh or it means a green dream or whatever it means Why do we not have that? Where's the other pieces of it. It's salacious to read somebody emails and by the way, as someone who used to read FISA and I wasn't my it was like my least favorite part of my job. I used to read a Chinese spies emails so I would get the emails in my box and I could read them And it's really salacious to find out what people are doing is like just because really curious you reading your God What a weird thing that this person's life is all about That's what people who are doing intelligence work Do they snoop in your stuff

1:12:36 But it's also really important to have the context. I'm talking about people who've gotten a read Jack Smith emails, they go it's all up and shut meeting with the White House setting at all of fraud but we're not allowed to use it thanks Todd Blanche so just imagine how frustrating is this for real investigators? Like, yeah the people like every single one of those emails is attached to a to a serial that an FBI agent wrote and the FBI agent wrote it. And explained this is what we've got here's how we got it you know It was obtained by search warrant and it was reviewed on this day by these people and here's what we believe it to mean and you know Here's the quotes and this is how it shapes furthers our case

1:13:13 Or you could say, we've investigated it and upon further information this appears to be a hoax. This appears to be fake, whatever it is. So all of these pieces of evidence were put in for a reason. Every one of these emails should have been looked at reviewed and then somebody said okay this what means or this what doesn't. And guess what? We know was at least reviewed enough for them to redact the name of people that did send it- When I showed you that particular document, that is confirmed real. The DOJ saying yeah we got people being abused we got other people we got this they're obviously mixing it together presidents and former presidents and all this stuff secretaries of state were gonna redact that. And i asked the question not a trade investigator but I said if they are public figure there's nothing to hide then they should put all in fact that they redacted their name and not the victim seems backwards

1:14:00 Well, yeah I agree with you on that as a general rule. The thing that's relevant in that particular thread so the thread was it was somebody asking for guidance president secretary of state other people love celebrity or something to that effect i'm paraphrasing there's lots of examples of this on x That email thread then goes to another person who says, hey bumping this up the chain. What it looks like is maybe a redactor or a case agent or somebody that's working at the ground level that's trying to say okay there are obviously some big names- And you see if they throw a note on and say check it so maybe they're not even saying doing now they're just saying checking What it seems like they're doing is, it seems like they're saying we've come across all these things. So there's former president secretary of state blah blah blah all these people right? All the dignitaries that were talking about how are we handling this because what I know was going on Is that the people that are working on that redaction stuff The people that are doing the grunt level work of producing these files

1:14:54 They didn't read the Epstein Transparency Act and they don't know what sort of like the left and right boundaries are when it comes to, you know what they can and can't do. So they're asking for guidance. And all it does is it confirms that there are those types of people in these files. To me when I read it, I'm like yeah, what it means is that their secretaries of states and presidents and celebrities- But regardless Todd Blanch saying there are no bad guys When we have all this stuff clearly well let me ask you this When you are reading...when you heard those emails or me paraphrasing them quickly And it goes on and on, I stack every second to get to. Either these are weird ass space aliens with their own weird language that just so happens most of it goes back 15 years in FBI manuals if this is child porn this is you know torture a lot of it says it's torture A lot of it says we got sex slaves

1:15:39 I mean, who goes around and talks like this? I've read lots of people's emails. It turns out that's one of the things you get when you work as an investigator, I've read my own. I've never had conversations that ever looked anything like that especially from people who have tons of money and are living elite lives and can basically they can ask anybody to do anything for them they don't even need to write their own emails right? They've got secretaries and things like this. And these are their personal communiques and they're full of what they call a lot of information about themselves

1:16:23 References that we know are coded languages for either child sex trafficking or abuse, or for worse things. So all that makes me sick. The question is why don't we also get the accompanying deciphering? Because there clearly were people that were in the bureau that saw the same thing and they're not all gonna have their head in the sand somebody read it. There are experts that work on this stuff. You already a huge vindicated whistleblowers post targeted Catholics school parents and And then you're a big hero to Bob Gio and everybody until they got in, they turned against you because they knew you were not going along with their BS. Obviously like this guy's straight arrow but now you become a clearing house because people know you the real deal. There have been some other great whistleblowers as well but I would expect we'd see a lot more whistleblowers. I think that's really the answer too is just more men and women not just in the FBI but in public schools or colleges or medical field. You know we have whistleblowers on Pfizer that's how we know they killed people on the trials and covered it up. I mean I think the answer is just more more whistleblowers

1:17:19 That would be the answer. The problem is that we already know what the problem is, and the problem goes back to this thing I said like I was kind of digging into some Frank Serpico stuff today for some reason and I found a quote of his that said A true measure of society's greatness lies in how it treats its whistleblowers And our society treats whistleblowers like they're the enemy The word whistleblower I don't even like Well let's call it dissident How do you treat your dissidents? How do you treat the people that call out the party or the group that is in power. And can they be safely trusted to respect and say, okay that's a really interesting point. You've made some statements that make us reevaluate our system or do they just go you're trying to upset the status quo which is what whistleblowers do it's what dissidents do? You're trying to upset it and so your problem in the FBI That was my experience In most federal government agencies whether it'd be state federal local I've heard from local cops- So the biggest enemy is people who don't want to stick their heads up

1:18:16 and follow orders. Let me raise this, talking to you yesterday, it clicked because you were talking about your dad the famous Waco reporter out of Fort Worth I think it was and I remember he was the big guy that we actually got the truth about him murdering the Davidians from pretty much in live time because for whatever reason they listened to his show or him and talked to him. It clicked this morning. I interviewed your dad like in 1997 or something on the phone. We should get him on... You were telling stories about your dad He still has a box in his garage that says, for the Davidian children. It was stuff that was sent to the radio station. I mean, that's how far back my memory of this kind of stuff goes because I was a little kid. I remember when dad got pulled out of church- Let me tell you another story and then we can take on that. Okay. Then it just clicked when you were saying all of that... Well anyways, finish your point about your dad. Sorry go ahead

1:19:04 Well, he's got that. He still got a box like people went out there and they were sending things to the Davidian children to the radio station used to be the vice president for operations and Iran KRLD 1080 in Dallas Texas until he talked to David Koresh for I don't know 20 hours on the phone. He was the go between when the ATF screwed it up And they ended up having the second command some guy named Steven something or other he'd know the name and he talked to this guy then they put David Koresh on the phone and David Koresh was talking about himself in the past tense and doing all this crazy stuff. I've seen screw ups. The funny thing was is that, I don't think the FBI was necessarily the bad guy in that story at least not at the time. The ATF was the bad guy. The ATF shouldn't have even existed they were doing all this stuff for publicity. In some ways it's very similar and then the Delta Force. They did same thing at Ruby Ridge. They kicked off Ruby Ridge by looking for a freaking short shotgun for a guy who is a Green Beret and at the end of day serve this country honorably and who cared if he had a shotgun out in the middle of woods? It shouldn't have mattered so a lot of this stuff

1:19:59 It's the same playbook again. And if people come up and people used to send my dad stuff saying that they were FBI agents, and this is what they saw it. This is where the investigation went sideways and he could never validate it. The question is can you get actual honest transparency? Can we ever just like own that there are some sins that our government is involved in? And it seems like they try to wait until so far in the past that nobody's ever gonna be alive to actually deal with retribution. The measure of society being treating dissidents and whistleblowers well it what it tells me is that there needs to be actual accountability And that's what people want to talk about. What's gonna end up in handcuffs, you know You were talking about FBI agents using examples That literally work dumbs IQ wise but we're so compartmentalized They didn't know about huge things going on and that's what I find you've got a lot of the public super away from

1:20:47 And then, but then you also got a lot of people that aren't even just crazed leftists. They just don't know anything I mean, I don't-I mean does Todd Blanche Know how hated he is? So i dont want to hate this guy. Did you know how arrogant he is You know what's funny though Alex He went out and did those press conferences and hes savvy I mean lets give the devils due The man is bright And he made some really, really important and intelligent points while he was doing this discussion about what was happening with these Epstein file releases. He said things like there are salacious allegations that come in through the tip line and some of those things are what people were focusing on these crazy statements they would say Donald Trump sacrificed a baby and buried him on the back nine or the golf course all those other crazy shit. And then you're like well, and then you're like What is the source of this?

1:21:31 It's a batshit crazy person who called into the FBI tips line out in West Virginia. From a mental institution? Said some stuff, yeah from anywhere doesn't matter where they're from it could be like living on the street or anything else. But a woman that checked us literally had been in mental institutions like five times and she said Trump murdered and buried the baby on a golf course that didn't exist until five years later This is why some of this stuff is not, and this the brilliance of what I think the rollout was. They muddied the waters with all this crazy stuff even the story about Tom Massey which has been like well he said he has 20 names now the victim said that they had some names but the problem with the names are take a 15 year old rape victim 16 year old rape victim get their story and then you'll find out that about

1:22:12 60% of it, maybe 30% of it is actually accurate. They saw a picture a couple years later and they're like that was the guy but maybe that just looked like the guy. The real story should be what did the investigators find when they did the work? And I keep coming back to this because all of the source information is interesting and these are documents so there's evidence- Because the FBI went and talked to the guys, they probably would find some guilty ones. They might crack up and admit it now you got a case right? And then they would also find some exculpatory information be like oh well this is obviously inaccurate like this person made an accusation but that person was actually in Singapore at the time So couldn't have been them if they got somebody who looked the same Well thats a problem I was in Singapore signing this deal here's the con do ya know

1:22:50 Exactly. And so sometimes you find those things and so this is why like the list of the victims saying things is not relevant, that's why you don't want to have them just go out there and blanket accuse him. So Todd Blanche is really interesting he's playing this game saying things that are obviously true that there's some salacious bullshit that's in there that you can't do anything about and that there's a lot of like wackos calling it insane crazy things but what they're distracting from while he's addressing this is like the emails that you just read, that are clearly evidence of something bizarre nefarious and nobody has in their emails. Go look for beef jerky in your emails and your Gmail account folks go search your text messages for references to pizza. And if it's not about you and your wife going to get pizza somewhere at your favorite pizza place- Let's be clear, they described as glowing and eager pleasure. Yeah there's none of that. It's not what people talk about. What with the pedestrian emails its like the seven nine eleven year old are ready to entertain you in the hot tub

1:26:10 And you really love humanity, you have a sense of empathy and that's designed in healthy people because when we have empathy they have empathy it's about our society. But I've always cared about other people but as i get older and have four children hopefully grandchildren soon, Rex your 23 getting married get me some uh nothing has any problem with the ladies but the point is is that I look at the world and I look at how dangerous things are. And even if there was some other free countries, I could go to my roots are so deep here. I would get out of the ship except this ship is holding a Western civilization as corrupt as it is. It falls, the rest falls in all the war games show real dark ages and that's we do whole shows on that. And so I literally don't just think well hopefully it doesn't hear this. I hope hope it doesn't fall apart from dead

1:27:03 I've heard that so much in my life for people, I'm gonna slap them. Our forebears on average really cared they had a sense I'm not here long apart of something bigger and that's why am tortured folks and i think you should be tortured too and I think you are Cuz some people are gonna be mad that I'm mad at Trump, others most of you are like no we agree. But we gotta be measured, we gotta do it to put his feet in the fire if it isn't perfect. We still criticize what's bad but realize on the other side of Trump, the Democrats are just psychotically evil. But we can't injustify as a means and then say fine, I'm just gonna back Trump like cat turds is great example who he is on X. People already are like who's that? He criticized him anyway, he just says yeah, you should be putting prison basically so

1:27:47 And I'm not gonna let the bad influences of Trump have full control. I mean, just sitting back and whatever his administration does we sit all the time we get Trump to make right decision on a 17 thing though he's dug in and it tells you will shut up when they bring it up so that's because he got convinced it was a new Russiagate which is for him but it is the new Russiagate by doing this so Kyle, you've done some great analogies on the phone. We talked like an hour yesterday I totally agree with your analysis that usually politicians are going for the moderates in the middle That's not how it is now The quote extremists are the majority and we're not really extreme left or right It's extreme now They're extreme We are normal human behavior by any yardstick study show it that down The paradigm has completely flipped And Trump is playing by a 1990s rule He is a 1990s Democrat

1:28:37 Okay, the Democrats- Yeah. He is? Go ahead. And that's not a mean thing to say. I actually think he's a little bit left of what the 1990s Democrats were because he's okay with gay marriage and he's softer on abortion where they were saying things like safely on rare there's some kind of conflict between him and Melania but probably in private Trump is probably not all that interested in the story of abortion so this is the paradigm that I think that is crazy and this is what you and I talked about yesterday but it's also what I covered this morning on my podcast. I can't get over the idea that historically speaking, when you ran for election in the primary you would always appeal to your base. Which means if you were on the left and you would say really wild left stuff and if you're on the right, you would give all those staunch conservative talking points about God and guns and individual ruggedism and all this other kind of stuff right? So that's where they will go smaller government less taxes on the left you're doing the other thing you're out there talking about how we need to solve the problem We all need to come together. We all need to kick in the rich need to fade their share You know the collectivist type argument And then

1:29:30 For most of the last, I don't know like let's call 80 or 100 years what people do is they would tack toward the middle. They would try to appeal to the people that don't give a rats, the regular people that kind of the squishy middle of America which is center left center right? That's kinda where it sits and so you would say softer things and you'd say well we can find some common ground with our friends who are Democrats and I always worked in bipartisan way and I was able to come together with my friends across the aisle and do this thing and this is why were successful and this is how we're gonna move America forward and we're all going to get a little bit about what we want and everyone goes yeah and then somebody wins That was it. That was the model and the difference that happened, I think between 2016 all the way up into 2024 and we'll just leave 2020 out of it for now because I don't trust what happened there and I don't think a lot of people did either. So 2024 Donald Trump did something that nobody had before because the political parties have moved so far to the left that the people that are representing the left wing of American politics, the Democrats are like

1:30:26 If they're not radical leftists, they are spying towards radical leftist. They are looking the direction of radical leftism and so that wasn't appealing to people that's not where the massive America is in fact a massive America I think based on talking to a lot of people and having lived in California and I've lived in Texas and Kansas and Oklahoma and Florida and Connecticut and Virginia like I've been all over the place. And when I talk to regular people, regular people are not that much different than there were 30 years ago. And so when I talk about things that people are scared to say or it's not politically correct and you would get fired for saying it. It's the stuff that we said 30 years ago, like regular people would regularly talk about it. And so I don't think the middle of America has moved fast. He always put out the meme. I can't really describe it right but he says here I am a Democrat 10 years ago but Democrats move way left So now I'm a Republican But that's exactly what it is

1:31:17 Well, and then that's an incomplete meme because it keeps going cuz the Republicans continue to move on. And so the regular person that just stood still from let's say 1996 they're still standing there and now they are to the right of the Republican Party and they are way to the right of the Democrat Party which means The political parties are no longer representing a left and right sort of experience. There is the graph Yeah, and it says me but like I think isn't that it's me is to the right of center. And I think that the center line has moved in and then the parties have actually move as well so dramatically- So here's where it got crazy though, in Alex in 2024 what Donald Trump did in the primary was he did the classic thing you appeal to the base. And so he said all the MAGA stuff that made people really excited and then when he got to the general election side and he had cinched up the nomination, he continued to say those things and more and they resonated with regular people because the average American is to the right of the Republican Party I do really strongly think and those are the gettable voters

1:32:20 So this is why the midterms are such, like they're gonna be a disaster. I think we could just look at it right now and if something doesn't change dramatically people are gonna go okay, I'm not on board for any of these people so let's sit down- Let me show you your thunder. It'll be leftists and people on the GOP. Three months ago I had Mark Mitchell on probably one of the best pollsters in the world very accurate. We did our interview explained this that we want radicals, we want action all the polls show we want rebels. We want outlaws Trump stop acting like you're the establishment then you've still underdog J.D. Vance sees it, calls him up there says oh great interview they meet with Trump 45 minutes we within three hours Suzy Walls and people demonize her I don't know she's good or not but you know like Vance they agree Trump does a little bit of it but he goes away exactly they agree with that so Trump exactly and you don't look radical you'll look rebel when your covered up the Epstein stuff which helps the Democrats

1:33:12 That's right. No, I mean people are gonna just they're going to opt out the gettable voters or independence? They don't have Maga in their bio on Facebook or on X or anywhere else. They don't go out and wear the red hat everywhere that get double voters are independents and what they want to see is can America basically do what Trump called it make America great again when do people think America was pretty great because I have all these people that are younger than me. They go People really seem to like the 1980s and 90s Why is there so much nostalgia for that? And I'm like, well America was prosperous. People thought America was the good guy. There are people that obviously knew a little bit more about stuff and some of the global interplay but at the end of the day- The average person could buy a house- We judged in Cold War Yeah That's right we were the good guys and we had just been victorious and we beat the evil empire and everyone thought that that was a pretty good space to do Did we have sins Of course Are there all kinds of nuances to that Yes of course there are But this

1:33:57 The general sentiment was, we're the good guys. We're winning people like being on that team and then what we see is this aspiration in 24 where Trump said I'm not gonna be like a regular conservative which he's not and I'm not going to be someone who just sort of tries to conserve the thing that we have and lose slowly. He said he was gonna gain some ground back. We had the expectation he was gonna come in and do radical change- press conferences about I got the World Cup, newsflash Trump no one gives a shit. Nobody gives a shit at all like nobody cares so here's it let me bang this off you real quick you think about this idea do you remember the movie Dave?

1:34:37 I made this point to my audience and, and I got a bunch of comments back on it where people went like yeah. The movie Dave was the story of essentially Bill Clinton type character okay? And he was kind of scandalous and he was sleeping around with his wife and the President of United States ends up sleeping with some younger girl has a stroke and ends up in a coma and they don't wanna announce that he's dead because they don't wanna lose the political power. So, the political establishment goes and finds an impersonator of the president, and the guy's name is Dave. And Dave gets moved into The White House to pretend to be the president, and The First Lady is Sigourney Weaver, it's a kind of romantic comedy, and it's kinda cutesy but the redeeming part of it is that a regular guy with business sense who used to work at a temp agency has friends who are accountants do regular like main street level business gets To The White House

1:35:22 And what does he do? He starts acting like a normal human being. He says regular things, he knows that transparency means transparency. He wants his word to be as bond. He shakes hands and he means it and then he wants to have a balanced budget and do things that sound really good to us. And so everybody thought that's what they were getting in Donald Trump maybe like a bigger version of it maybe larger than life version of it because he was kind of cartoony and he was on WWE But everybody thought they were getting the apprentice and Dave all in one. Everyone was going to be fired that sucked, and we were going to get someone that understood business and what it meant- Let me say this then I totally agree but let me say this That's the paradox of why i'm so pissed Getting out of the carbon tax The whole UN world agenda Lord Monson had great estimates And its accurate 2 billion dead within 10 years actually did that okay Collapsed most civilization look at Germany can't even make cars now They've cut off most their energy people freeze to death In their homes

1:36:10 Uh, securing the border. Uh, getting 20 trillion investment tend to really hard here. I mean, you want securing the border? Uh, kicking men out of women's sports. It's all so good. He is doing great except he has got constant CEOs constantly just doing all it just, it's a, But what happens- He can't control the messaging and he can't do the one thing that you gotta do in sales, which is your under promise and over deliver. You're like look we're bringing inflation down I didn't create this problem but i'm working on it here's how I think its gonna work but were gonna have to tighten our belts for longer when people came out the whole idea of a fireside chat was talking people through the dark times where you'd say there are austerity measures We were reckless as weak Churchill that famous speech when they just lost the battle of Dunkirk

1:36:56 And the British exterior force had driven the ocean. He said, all I can promise you is pain and blood and everybody goes to the end we're going to be free because it's better than being slaves. And so that's all I promised she was paying but we won't surrender at people like that People understand, so I think Milo Yiannopoulos told me this at one point in time. He said nobody wants to be part of a losing team they want to be a part of the team that's an underdog but that showing progress and winning. So you can be the underdog and you cannot be winning right now but you got to be showing that you're putting up the fight And what we're seeing and this is why you're going to have a problem in the midterms- people are turning off the two. That's what Mark Mitchell told Trump it was when I said they were interested in what he said because I got invited too right after that But the point was I didn't go The point was just pointless

1:37:37 The point is, is that I said you are the underdog. Stop saying everything's beautiful, everything's fine there is no inflation. We've won! No we gotta beat you but we're under attack stop saying... Go to this. That's exactly right though 1970 whatever Nashville was totally corrupt it was a mafia they tell you how to sing what to dress they take all your money grand old Opry Willie Nelson, Chris Christopherson Waylon Jennings go. Hey let's go copy Johnny paycheck and guys that were getting you know and all these guys that were coming up from nowhere lets move to Texas do our own thing and screw them

1:38:13 And they come down here and within 10 years, they go from being 5% of overall country sales to like 85%, and outlawed country takes over. All they were was saying we're outlaws doing our own thing screw you! We got long hair. Well this is real rebels but people want to bet on rebels that are winning it's that simple. That's it All of our pop culture is geared towards this. This is the American ethos, this is why the idea of fight-fight-fight was such a big deal that wasn't like a Rocky Balboa moment I remember seeing him being like holy shit this guy's instinct and listen when you have some moments... Trump saying I've won the fight everything's fine we're like sure don't feel like it to us!

1:38:50 No, you need to tell people they want to kill me. They've already tried. They're still trying and this is so his messaging is just all off and I don't know why you would say that because he knows better than most people He has to know And I don't know Donald Trump and like I said personally have nothing invested in the guy one way or another I want the outcome and the outcome is I've got four little kids My youngest is two years old You know God willing we'll have another baby I don't have another baby in the world that I have to go into see I don't want what you're we were talking about. People said, well, I hope not in my time. I hope in my time while I still have some fight left in me, I train every day in the gym to make sure that if the fight comes on ready for it and so that maybe I can shield my kids and maybe my youngest daughter won't actually remember because it'll be all over by then. That's my hope. The guy had a moment where he got shot, got down and his underlying instinct

1:39:36 was not to roll over, not to say oh shit. Not to hide but the stand up and be defiant and that is an utterly American thing you can't train that but that's not political instincts which is what they were trying to do. That's what happens when you strip away everything I've seen people near death And if you have a couple of moments I once fell off a rock climbing wall and I thought it was it for me because I'd never actually done like a lead climb fall. And my buddy pulls me off and he goes, good news. Bad news is you're all banged up. You got slices all over your arms. You're bleeding. You've got rock stuck in your face and shit like that. And you're a mess I go okay what's the good news? He goes the good news is that when you think you're falling to your death, you sound like Arnold Schwarzenegger and not like a woman because he said you screamed like a man who was gonna fight till the end of it. You were going to fight them out and all the way down. Okay well there's that when you peel off that moment you can't fake it. You know about Schwarzeneggers predator scream and predator- That's it! That's what I did

1:40:26 Like that's what I sounded like falling off the wall. Donald Trump had that same exact instinct, he got shot in the ear and he's got Secret Service throwing their body on top of him and then you guys are showing on the screen what does he do? He stands up and puts his hand in the air and says we're not done yet! We're not gonna let this be the end That's an instinct that we are not seeing right now. What we're seeing is sort of like a guy who was like phoning it in and maybe he's getting victories, but you can't say everything is great and we did the best thing ever and America saved because I'm here. You're like America is on a fight for survival. That's what Americans think. That's what my neighbors think who have lost their jobs and are trying to figure out this economy is rough. So we all got to send the Trump

1:41:03 We're willing to fight. We know you've done some good, but the war hasn't been won we're in the second quarter stop saying we won the war because he's all he's shipped into business mode well I got 20 trillion coming in and He started turn around economy bet you I bet you guys that surround Donald Trump that have a lot of money are doing great cuz high inflation times are good for people That have a lot of money and like high wealth and high inflation those things work out really well People don't know it's not well known He was run down to almost bankruptcy. Now he's back doing good, so he's thinking we're doing good and you can't make that not the case. So what the right thing to do would be great is having some town halls with some real people pull some people out of all over the place including people that don't like him that can come and tell them to his face so he can understand this fight. I told that's what I told the White House. It was funny Biden actually knew this. He called it a fight for the soul of the nation

1:41:54 It really is. It's always been, but the funny thing is that the soul of the nation is to the right of both political parties there is no political right in this country. Sure he had the right rhetoric but he was hobbling around nobody thought he could execute him Yeah and he was a piece of shit He was a bad person I mean he was a human Roomba like you know my wife tries to tell me it wasn't even the same guy that used to be out there that used to be in the senate and I don't know if they faked bullet Dave moment with Joe Biden. That's how weird and goofy the reality is, and you and I talked about this on the break so I'm gonna just share it with people. The problem is people have gone one of two ways since what happened in 2020 and the weird stuff that happened in 2021 where the government came in with overwhelming censorship and mandated vaccines and a bunch of other crap that nobody wanted. And they did this thing to the point where Americans went okay there are basically two forks in the road

1:42:37 One fork is I don't believe anything that anyone tells me no matter how much I like them. And so, I'm going to be a skeptic and I'm always going to critically evaluate and so you got to prove it to me tell me that sounds good show me the evidence and i'll make a good decision. So that's where the sensible people go in some of your audiences there but there's going to be some of the audience because they're everywhere and we run into them all the time. The people that go, the rules have been broken, the social contract is broken and violated, and they're willing to lie to me about everything so reality is just negotiable? So screw it I'm gonna just believe anything that I want and I can believe that Donald Trump is paying 15 D chest or I can believe that were all going to die or I can believe that you know that we're actually being run by a simulation and Elon Musk's his pulling the trigger like I don't know

1:43:19 People can believe whatever crazy thing they want, and there's a huge percent of Americans that have just opted out. They're no longer going to think- I agree with you and I'll tell you why they're taking either one of the two groups. They're exhausted and some of them don't have the research they now know they've been lied too so it's easy to say everything is fine or everything is screwed then we study stuff all day and were sorry that truth is complex and sometimes we don't have all the answers but that's reality but Since you mentioned this, I want to play you just one of the videos that I mentioned earlier since I mentioned it. So this video comes out Friday and for the first five six seven hours when I see it on X they haven't come out and said it's Gemini AI but I immediately see it after I'm off air And I go wait that's Trump at Mar-a-Lago obviously this video 5 000 times with Epstein coming in That's Trump

1:44:06 Miss Universe contest, I look it up. Yeah it's there and go well do it tomorrow The next day I wake up hundreds of millions of years And people are in my timeline going Look you still support Trump Here he is the little girl has been raped Now he's pointing at little slave girls at an auction And I'm-and I go online shoot a video explain it And I say to people Look here's the video where they're compositing, it's not just AI now. They're taking a composite real video with a fake video and still have the comments were like oh my God you just covered up because they want to believe is real they won't admit they've been conned and their mad at me that I won't agree with her lie And I had this insane moment when I said You know the lies king when the witch poisons well and makes the kingdom insane drinks the poison but i'm not going to do that But its the fact so much of public

1:44:56 Can't believe the social contract's broken. Now they believe nothing and they don't have information, so it's very explosive. It's very dangerous and all these lawyers and Todd Blanchett are bubbles who think they've got it handled you guys are insane because well they're using their using a tactic Alex that's so important there mixing pieces of real things or truth which is the way that you sell the best line said Blanche just think about it if Yeah, Blanche does it. He talks about things I don't know that everything he's saying is a lie but I know he's saying things that are partially true and I go well that's accurate, that's true, that's sensible so I can get behind those things and then its like now you're saying something that I don't know if its true or not but the previous things you said were true think about anybody who tried to lie to their parents would you go out and say no I was in my room all night? Well you were out so he's like nah I was out with my friend So-and-so I wasn't doing the thing that you thought I was doing. You admit certain things. Mitch Snow wouldn't let his wife attack her vehicle with a hammer

1:45:48 The police come arrest him, he switches it. She took my keys and attacked me with a hammer. So- That's right always mix in partial pieces of the truth because those can be validated and then it makes you look more sensible. So my dad said it 30 years in the news business this is something he said to me for a long time. He said don't confuse me with the facts I already have an opinion and a lot of people operate from that exact, they don't know that's the program. Stop there! This has been riveting but here is one deep fake video I won't have time to analyze it all but just when you watch this folks its very emotional little girl raped obviously their crying and then it cuts to known public videos cut in with AI and then when I say this is fake I'm the bad guy here it is. This is AI. This is a fake girl

1:46:38 Gemini and then it cuts to real clips mixed with fake clips But if you're not saying, it's real your heart the girls. Yes the emotion that's a famous Epstein Then pointing at adult women they just cut in little girls It seemed badly done but people like are so emotional and mad You're like this isn't real Oh, you're not saying the girls are real he raped him Alex That's famous video seen millions of times other than Mar-a-Lago pointing Adult women dancing and I already did this Saturday, and I showed people the same video But the real one they didn't care and that is mass psychosis. That is dangerous Meanwhile just exposed to DOJ covering up as if Trump's got big problems but I'm attacking real real stuff And then they cut in a few Real photos of Epstein and men people and then and then a real photo at Trump with adult women and a Miss Universe Implying their underage recover their faces up that it was a real pic Yeah here's the real video That they cut him with little girls

1:47:39 So what do you say to that, Kyle Serafin? long form clips of this. No, they're not these are like hyper cut the you'll notice that all the shadows are really aggressively done which are not normal look at the shadows and even on my own camera here we've got good lighting fine so it's soft shadows that's how shadows look they're not super hard like their drop shadow that's done in some kind of a video program or done in some kind of photoshop videos cut in with fake ones

1:48:19 Exactly, and it's jumping. It's jump cutting and that's how people are used to getting information out right? There is the jump cut. It is not a long form live single cut stream but have any personal movies from that time frame 80s 90s early 2000 ever been edited that way No, they weren't. They were just it was a somebody with a cam corner that was walking around and had some shakiness to it. It was somebody standing there that was filming it for some posterity sake. So you know that those cameras weren't there doing that thing at that moment because that video has been around forever but he makes the lie in with a little bit of BS So you got the lie, you got some real footage. You're like that's real footage I know i've seen that before. I just haven't seen this one part That's what came out of the F-teen files Why does it have the music? All of it is mood related all of it is playing on uh emotion so yeah I mean that's how that's what you're doing We need to find out who's behind that video and others

1:49:09 Yeah, and what was that writing in there? Was that Thai writing or something like that. I saw another language in captions and so you always see these things they come out of these strange places. So there are plenty of people that are playing information ops on America. And that's the other thing that people don't seem to realize. There is an attention war. People are fighting for what you think. There's dummies out there doing it on TikTok saying things with zero information I saw a guy today, in fact, I can't remember what his name was. It was Jeffrey Ferguson UK there it is Jim Ferguson UK said Donald Trump is going after the deep state and look what he said and here's all these things he's gonna do And you know what the video was from Alex 2023? Was the first thing you did the campaign trail in March of 23. I'm like, I know I've seen this video before This is not a new thing He's not announcing new policies shit that he said when he was on the campaign trail before he was reelected So a lot of this stuff again remixing real truth