Wednesday, 27 August 2025

MUST-WATCH WEDNESDAY FULL SHOW 8/27/25 — Federal Sources Confirm There Is An Attempted Cover-Up Of The Trans Terrorist Attack In Minneapolis, Minnesota, But The Deep State's Desperate Attempt To Conceal The Identity Of The Mass Shooter IMPLODES! Top FBI Whistleblower Kyle Seraphin Breaks Disturbing Details On The Mass Shooting Of Students & Teachers At A Catholic School! PLUS, Trump Just Called For RICO Charges Against Soros Over Violent Protest Support!

A mass shooting at a Minneapolis Catholic school exposes a desperate federal effort to conceal the shooter’s identity and scrub evidence of a targeted hate crime.

By The Alex Jones Show | 3h 52m listen | 38 chapters
MUST-WATCH WEDNESDAY FULL SHOW 8/27/25 — Federal Sources Confirm There Is An Attempted Cover-Up Of The Trans Terrorist Attack In Minneapolis, Minnesota, But The Deep State's Desperate Attempt To Conceal The Identity Of The Mass Shooter IMPLODES! Top FBI Whistleblower Kyle Seraphin Breaks Disturbing Details On The Mass Shooting Of Students & Teachers At A Catholic School! PLUS, Trump Just Called For RICO Charges Against Soros Over Violent Protest Support! cover

About this episode

Federal authorities and legacy media outlets face intense scrutiny following an attempted cover-up of a mass shooting at Annunciation Roman Catholic Church in Minneapolis. FBI whistleblower Kyle Serafin and Alex Jones confirmed the shooter as Robert Westman, a trans-identified male who targeted students and teachers during the first week of school. Despite a rapid federal effort to scrub Westman’s social media and manifesto, independent journalists archived evidence of a clear hate crime against Christians before the digital trail was erased.

Minneapolis Police Chief Brian O'Hara confirmed that the gunman utilized a rifle, shotgun, and pistol to kill two children, ages 8 and 10, while wounding 17 others. Whistleblowers allege that the Department of Justice and FBI management suppressed the suspect's identity to protect a specific political agenda favored by Governor Tim Walz. The investigation reveals the shooter’s weapons were covered in disturbing inscriptions, while a recovered manifesto detailed a psychotic obsession with previous mass shooters and a plan to target the church altar. Additional reports indicate that Operation Bronze Griffin, a federal initiative with Big Tech, was activated to flag and remove content related to the shooter’s motivations.

Kyle Serafin describes the current institutional rot within the FBI as a preference for pride flags over the American flag, citing mandatory diversity training as a distraction from real threats. The broadcast features a victory for the alternative press as the New York Post and Fox News eventually validated the shooter's identity hours after the initial information blackout. Patrick Byrne also joins the program to discuss the cognitive benefits of Methylene Blue in an era of high-stakes information warfare.


CHAPTER 01 / 38 Discussion

Minneapolis Catholic Church Shooting, Initial Reports and Casualties

Owen Shroyer reports a mass shooting at Annunciation Roman Catholic Church in Minneapolis on August 27, 2025. Early indications suggest at least 20 people were wounded and two children were killed during a morning mass marking the first week of school. Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey delivers an emotional press conference address calling for community support and mourning the tragedy.

minneapolis· annunciation catholic church· mass shooting· jacob frey· catholic school· casualties

00:00 While other networks lie to you about what's happening now, InfoWars tells you the truth about what's happening next. Visit InfoWars.com forward slash show and support the InfoWars. InfoWars, tomorrow's news today. Ladies and gentlemen, it is Wednesday, August 7th.

00:41 August 27th, excuse me, August 27th, 2025. Yes, this is the Alex Jones Show. Owen Schroeder sitting in for Alex today. And I will just say this quickly and we'll get into the breaking news. Alex is out today. His father is having some very serious surgery. He's actually in the middle of the surgery right now. That is why Alex is out. But I do believe we'll be hearing from Alex shortly. in response to what just happened in Minneapolis, where you had a mass shooting. We're still waiting for answers as far as clarification on casualties and how many were shot. Right now it looks like at least early indications are 20 people wounded, maybe two deceased, but information is still incoming. And then Alex is communicating with some FBI sources right now to try to

01:51 Get as much information as we can as far as the details that are available With the shooter, but they do have a live press conference that has just kicked off right now Outside of the school I believe is where this is and so let's take this live and we are seeing the Minneapolis mayor there Jacob Fry Right in front of the microphone. Let's listen. There are no words that can capture the horror of the evil of this unspeakable act. Children are dead. They're families that have a deceased child. You cannot put into words the gravity, the tragedy or the absolute pain of this situation. We are a Minneapolis family. But to everybody out there, do not think of these as just somebody else's kids. Those families are suffering immense pain right now.

03:00 Think of this as if it were your own. Every one of us needs to be wrapping our arms around these families, giving them every ounce that we can muster. These were Minneapolis families. These were American families. And the amount of pain that they are suffering right now is extraordinary. Don't just say this is about thoughts and prayers right now. These kids were literally praying. It was the first week of school. They were in a church. These are kids that

03:37 should be learning with their friends. They should be playing on the playground. They should be able to go to school or church in peace without the fear or risk of violence and their parents should have the same kind of assurance. These are the sort of basic assurances that every family should have every step of the day regardless of where they are in our country. I'm so deeply saddened and I'm so sorry. to the families that I know are suffering right now. My ask is to everyone, stand by them, love them. These families have forever been changed and we've all been changed with them. We need to do everything possible to support them through this time.

04:38 And any federal agents on the scene will be stepping up to the mic shortly. I'm not sure how many details they can divulge at this point. But we will pick that up on the other side of this short break. We don't have too many details as far as the series of events today, but I will say this. We're probably gonna get the same response that we always do politically. And I think it's pretty fair to say here that that's not working. Okay, it's obviously Not working. So the breaking news as we are live here on this Wednesday August 27th 2025 Episode of the Alex Jones show Owen Troyer sitting in for Alex today who is with his father who's having very serious surgery today I do anticipate we'll be hearing from Alex likely before the end of this segment, but certainly before the end of the show today and

05:35 And the breaking news as of this morning is a shooting in Minneapolis at a church, at a Catholic school. We have early indications it looks like 20 victims, perhaps two deceased. We're still trying to get as much detail as far as the series of events that led to this are concerned. for you today. Now we're going to be going back to the press conference here momentarily. You just heard from Glenn Frey, he's still speaking here. He's not really giving any details. It's more of an emotional plea to the country for love and support. I don't know if he's making any political stance on this yet or not, but obviously whenever there's children involved or it's a school, it has a little bit of an extra tug.

CHAPTER 03 / 38 Discussion

Minneapolis Police Chief Brian O'Hara, Shooting Investigation Details

Minneapolis Police Chief Brian O'Hara provides tactical details regarding the shooting at Annunciation Roman Catholic Church. The shooter, a male in his early 20s, fired a rifle, shotgun, and pistol through church windows before taking his own life in the parking lot. Two children, ages 8 and 10, are confirmed deceased, while 17 others were injured during the deliberate attack.

brian o'hara· minneapolis police department· rifle· shotgun· suicide· investigation

08:25 Now, I'll expand on this, but the police is now stepping up to the microphone. So let's see what they have to say. I am the Minneapolis police chief. Earlier today, just before 8.30 AM, our city experienced an unthinkable tragedy. Minneapolis police officers responded to a report of a shooting at a mass that was happening at the Annunciation Roman Catholic Church on the block behind me. Worship service was marking the first week of school for children that are attending the Annunciation Catholic School. During the mass, a gunman approached on the outside on the side of the building and began firing a rifle through the church windows towards the children sitting in the pews at the mass. Shooting through the windows, he struck children and worshippers that were inside the building.

09:26 The shooter was armed with a rifle, a shotgun, and a pistol. This was a deliberate act of violence against innocent children and other people worshiping. The sheer cruelty and cowardice of firing into a church full of children is absolutely incomprehensible. Police officers from the Minneapolis Police Department immediately responded, entered the church, and attempted to provide first aid.

10:01 and rescue some of the children that were hiding throughout the building. While other first responders came, and EMS responded to rush victims to nearby hospitals. Two young children, ages 8 and 10, were killed where they sat in the pews. Their parents have been notified. 17 other people were injured, 14 of them being children. Two of those children are in critical condition. The coward who fired these shots ultimately took his own life in the rear of the church. Our hearts are broken for the families who have lost their children, for these young lives that are now fighting to recover, and for our entire community that has been so deeply traumatized by this senseless attack. We will stand together to protect our children, our schools, and our houses of worship. This deliberate act of violence

11:12 is just a sign of cruelty that is behind comprehension. Our hearts are broken for everyone that's been affected by this tragedy. As we begin the difficult path of healing, I want the community to know this, that even in the face of such evil, the Minneapolis Police Department and all of our law enforcement partners stand with our community. We stand with these families And with this parish, we will continue to be here for you. With that, the investigation is obviously in its preliminary stages.

11:51 And I will attempt to take some questions to provide further information. Chief, what can you tell us about the suspect in this case? How old was he? Any kind of motivation? Any notes or any other information? So we were looking, the question was what can be said about the shooter? We believe it is one suspect, a sole shooter. We believe he is deceased. He is in his early 20s. Does not have an extensive known criminal history. And we are looking through information left behind to try and determine some type of motive.

12:31 How many children, I don't have an exact, the question was how many children at the school? There were dozens of children inside the mass at the time. I don't have an exact count. The children have been relocated into the school, which is where their families are reunifying with them. Was the shooter a student, former student, with the former employee? Do we know that? The question was, do we know if the shooter was a former school employee or a former student? We don't have that information. There's a vehicle. The question was, was anything left behind? There's a vehicle that we believe that the suspect used that is being searched. And we will be conducting other searches related to this.

13:21 Inside the parking lot here. Yep. So the question was, neighbors had said that the door to the church had been barricaded. The shooter approached on one side of the church building and on that side, at least two doors, it appears there had been like a two by four placed. So not all of the doors around the building but on the side where the shooter did fire. On the outside, yes. Wow. The question was, was there any explosives? There were reports of that. There were no explosives or improvised devices that we found. I do believe there was one, I guess you would call it a smoke bomb, like not an explosive, but a sort of a firework that would release smoke.

14:12 We are live here on the Alex Jones Show. Listen to Minneapolis Police Chief Brian O'Hara with details on the shooting in Minneapolis this morning. I don't have specific information on that that I can release. Yeah, the question was is he dead from a gunshot wound? The answer is yes. We believe he took his own life in the parking lot. Was this outside or both inside that he was shooting? The question was, was he shooting outside and inside? He was absolutely shooting outside of the building on the side of the church, inside through the windows. It appears he may have gone inside, but I don't believe we've located any casings inside the building. So I'm not certain if he fired also while inside. It appears, if not all, most of the shooting happened outside the building.

15:00 other shootings that happened in the last 24 hours? Yeah, Taylor's asking is this related to any of the other shootings? This does not appear to be related to any other shooting in the city. The question was how many rounds? I would say it's in the dozens. We don't have an exact count. There's a sidewalk on the outside as well as a grassy area. So obviously we are going through and taking our time to process the scene. The question was, was he firing one weapon? We believe he had fired all three. He had a rifle, a shotgun, and a pistol. Chief, was this individual licensed to conceal a carry? Did he have any of that? Were the weapons, was he lawfully carrying the weapons? I don't have that information. And I don't have any information on any significant criminal history either. Was he dressed at all in any actual type of gear or anything? It appeared he had some black clothing on, his cargo-type pants. I guess you could interpret that as, you know,

CHAPTER 04 / 38 Discussion

Transgender Mass Shooting Claims, Alex Jones on FBI Sources

Alex Jones calls into the show to claim that the Minneapolis shooter is a transgender individual, citing information from FBI whistleblower Kyle Serafin. Jones asserts a pattern of transgender-led mass shootings over the last four years and alleges a satanic motivation behind the attack on the Catholic school. He mentions his father is currently undergoing open-heart surgery in Temple, Texas.

alex jones· kyle serafin· transgender· nashville shooting· fbi· minnesota

16:03 However you like. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for helping us to get the information out today. We have a lot more work that needs to be done. We're gonna go ahead and cut this feed off for a second. And Owen's gonna be hosting here on this live Wednesday, the 27th of August 2025. We have seen this over and over again. Almost 100% of the mass school shootings and church shootings of the last four years have been trans. Most of those have been men claiming they're women. As we all know, one has been a woman claiming she was a man in Tennessee. And the corporate media, the Biden administration, DOJ tried to suppress that and it came out years later thanks to Steven Crowder and his team.

16:56 So I can tell you Kyle Serafin, top FBI whistleblower really of all time, who I thought was credible over the last few years, but all of a sudden he broke up and was credible. And now is just ultra credible for me, because everything he's given us the last six months has been dead on. He sent me 45 minutes ago from his law enforcement sources, the name of the reported shooter and his previous mugshot. or driver's license database photo. So we know the name, according to law enforcement, according to his FBI sources. Also, again, this is a basically satanic style anti-Christian attack. They're all oppressed, they're unhappy because they get brainwashed as kids and told that society isn't accepting them. They have the highest rate of suicide, also the highest crime rate of any subgroup that's non-racially identified.

17:52 The highest crime rate is young black males 14 to 25, but they are eclipsed by trans people. Trans people have a crime rate of mass murder of 10 times or more, the most dangerous young black thugs. Again, most black people are great people, just a small demographic that commits a large portion of the crime. But when it comes to trans, there is nobody more violent And that includes to the people, their families. That includes just committing general murders, mass shootings. And they were gonna have their trans day of rages, of course. They're now covering up and serial killer groups around the country that internet solutions have broken. So this is a major, major issue. Over 20 people shot, many of them children.

18:45 We're not getting numbers yet on dead, hopefully there's nobody. But they believe that Jesus is the problem. And so this is literally a satanic MI6 CIA controlled cult, created cult, and it's extremely dangerous. These people are brainwashed victims of the cult. And this is called Seraphim, gave me the name, I looked it up, nobody has it, at least not yet. The photo, I've tried to get a hold of him since he sent it to me. Maybe he's doing his own stream right now, we should probably just pick that up. But his FBI sources have given him the information and I have no doubt it's not accurate. But we're gonna hold off on the name and things as this develops. But the big issue here is, it is this shooter, it is a trans shooter, those who are all wearing black, that's their satanic uniform.

19:42 starting with Harrison Kleibold back in Columbine. If that is the case, then look for it to be covered up, just like the Minnesota attack that we saw that when it came out that the shooter said he was doing it for Governor Walz, then he got shut down on the No King's Day protest. And then they bought his wife and a bunch of other people guns and ammo and trying to get out of the state, that all got swept under the rug. So the DOJ needs to investigate it, but they're just got so much to investigate. It's like trying to drink the ocean with a straw. But I'm trying to get ahold of Kyle Serafin because he just sent me the information. My dad is still in open heart surgery right now here in Temple. So I appreciate everybody's prayers on that front. And I am just here to say thank you for

20:36 dealing with that. But obviously, this is a big deal, not only for those that are wounded and hopefully not dead, but also the way these ongoing coverups work. If this was a Trump supporter or a right winger, you would hear immediately that. I'm predicted five days before the Minnesota shooting of the two elected officials and their spouses that the Democrats can do a mass shooting of their officials and blame us. And then I bet the day the shooting happens, I bet they blame Trump and Infowars. And then the roommate of the shooter is paraded in front of the media to say he loves Trump, he loves Infowars, and Alex Jones. And then they had FBI behavior analysts look at the guy and they said we've never seen anybody this uncredible and the way he's talking and acting. So you can't make this up. And it's all epicentering around Minnesota. God knows who wound this man up. But they are saying it's a man.

CHAPTER 05 / 38 Discussion

School Security Protocols, Political Response to Gun Violence

Owen Shroyer and Alex Jones discuss the failure of gun control legislation and the need for armed security in schools and churches. Shroyer argues that a "good guy with a gun" is the only effective deterrent and critiques the left's focus on disarming citizens. They suggest the current atmosphere of lawlessness is a deliberate plan to force a military response and frame Donald Trump as a dictator.

school security· gun control· second amendment· nra· stuart rhodes· police state

21:32 And so, Owen Troyer, you're hosting the show and I've got a lot you're already ready to cover today. But I basically laid out my views on this. I've got some other FBI sources I'm gonna call, and then I'm gonna call back in here. But Owen, what do you make of this so far? The details that we have, what little details we have that we just got from the police there in Minneapolis tell me that this could have been stopped with proper security. It could have been stopped. This guy was pacing around the building barricading doors in. You probably had at least, I would say, a minute or two if you had proper security there to identify this shooter and nullify him before he's perhaps even able to get off a single shot. So we're in an unfortunate point, Alex, where we have to put military on the streets to stop shootings.

22:20 And we're gonna have to start stationing police officers at schools and churches and synagogues and everything else. I mean, it's a sad state of affairs. I don't like it. I don't like drinking, say, cough syrup when I have a cough, but you gotta do these things whether you like it or not. And so I think that that's where it's at. But I wanna see the political response. The political response has obviously failed. You have the left always with their same response. And then they get gun control legislation. And then they demonize Second Amendment activists and groups like the NRA. Well, that's obviously failed. Since the left has been enacting all of their gun legislation and all the Second Amendment reforms, school shootings, mass shootings have only gone up. They've only increased. All their laws to remove guns from blue cities have failed. Homicide rates are up. So obviously letting the left wing politically

23:13 kinda use this as hay to nest their bed, to stop the Second Amendment has failed. And so we have to accept that and we have to go the other way now and say, look, it's gonna have to be a good guy with a gun that's gonna stop this next time, every time. It's gonna have to be a good guy with the gun. And then, should this be another instance where this is a deranged trans person? We're gonna find out if that's the case, then obviously pharmaceutical pills were also involved here. So, you know, the response is going to have to be, you're the, you're, you're the former sports broadcaster that knows all the facts, but once it called when a batter in a game knocks home runs or basically, you know, you make it into home plate every time they're up at bat. What's that called? Like if he bad, a thousand, like he's batting a thousand. Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's what it was. Yeah. So Kyle Serafin's batting a thousand. And so I'm literally in the hospital

24:06 And my dad's in there in open heart surgery and he just says, okay, FBI, here's the guy's mugshot. Here he is, here's his name, he's trans. But then he's not answering, he's doing something. So this guy bats a thousand, so if If Babe Ruth of accuracy tells me this, then I'm very tempted to, you have the photo, I sent it to you, I sent you the information from Serafin. I'm tempted just to say, Kyle Serafin says this, and we can show his ex post where he basically says according to sources, trans person and all the rest of it, a trans person identifying as male. Does that mean female to male? The mugshot looks like I'm a dude. So

24:50 Or the it's a driver's license photo or mugshot. I can't tell but it's law enforcement together as I'm being told the alleged shooter at the Catholic school in Minneapolis was a trans identified male FBI police have ID'd the male by name which is which I'm withholding. ID photo shows a white male looks to be under 30 blue eyes long reddish hair deceased. Yeah, and so it looks like a Looks like a man that thinks he's a woman, instead of just screaming ma'am and breaking stuff up at a convenience store, blasting children because they don't accept their satanic order. That's what this is. But here's the bigger issue, and you hit the key, Owen. Since they hype up mass shootings, since they hype up trans are under attack, since they did all the police state stuff, it's only made it worse. But their police state is creating copycats, creating the option, the idea that you can go shoot up a school. No one ever even thought of that.

25:47 The correlation directly just like they knew back when they built the Empire States building that if one crazy person jumped off once a year, suddenly the next few days five or six people would try to copy it. So as soon as one person jumped off the Empire States building, The New York police quickly learned, there's actual psychology papers on this, to station people there because suddenly a bunch of copycatters will show up. Or whenever somebody jumps off the Brooklyn Bridge, every few months suddenly a bunch more show up the same day or the next day doing it. So this is creating copycats and you're right. I had Stuart Rhodes, constitutional lawyer, former political president, expert on the police state, Ron Paul's former staffer that Ron Paul would say, have Stuart on, the lawyer from Yale. He'll explain the police state. That was the Democrats training to take our guns, to set up checkpoints everywhere, to go after American patrons. Trump's doing a bandaid knowing that just seeing troops on the streets, the thugs think we're not safe and it stops. And crime drops 90 plus percent and there's not been one murder in two weeks in DC. But you're right, it's like sawing your leg off because you have grain green.

26:48 The issue here is the Soros DA is creating a green light for our own reporter Jamie White to be killed by Larry Conquista, black supremacist. So we'll come back but they've created the climate for this. And now because it will, I think be a trans person to Sarah, if it's ever been wrong so far, maybe he is wrong this time. Then they're gonna just shut this story down, it's gonna go away. But it does make me think, why is all this happening in Minnesota? Owen, take us out. I've got more key points to make, then I'll hand it over to you while I get more information on the other side. But this is all part of the lawlessness, the defunding of police, this atmosphere, this trans rage. They're trying to create a slow boil of civil war

CHAPTER 06 / 38 Discussion

Pharmaceutical Industrial Complex, Childhood Indoctrination and Autism

The discussion shifts to the pharmaceutical industry's role in medicating children with drugs like Adderall and psychiatric pills. Reference is made to Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s upcoming press conference regarding vaccines and autism. Shroyer also recounts his personal experience at a military-style Christian academy to illustrate how effective security protocols can protect students.

rfk jr· adderall· autism· vaccines· pharmaceutical industry· school security

29:54 Or at least you will see Democrats, liberals, progressives responding to this as they always do with that conclusion that that's what needs to be done. Well, if you follow that train of logic, then ultimately I think you would have to go one step further and you'd have to say, we have to make killing people illegal too. That's right, of course it already is. So then therefore the logic of making guns illegal is not going to stop this from happening. Now, we're gonna be rejoined by Alex coming up shortly here, but I wanna kind of reiterate, but also rephrase some of the stuff that he said there. You have in the youth right now in the public schools mostly, and the police said that they don't know if this shooter had any connection to that Catholic school or not. But in the public school system, you have these kids getting indoctrinated,

30:58 They're getting indoctrinated with hate. They're getting indoctrinated with the radical, progressive, youth sexual agenda. And then you have as just kind of this storm cloud that hovers over all of it, the pharmaceutical industrial complex that is just waiting to engulf these children that come out of these schools, really so brain damaged, you could say.

31:37 the psychological damage, the emotional damage, the torment, waiting there to prescribe them their next batch of pills. Now this is a phenomenon that is not new, but it's one of those things that only increases exponentially because it's all about how do we get the product to the potential customer and for This case for big pharmaceutical companies, it's how do I get children on drugs? And I talked to friends of mine that have kids and I hear it all the time. Kids that are not even teenagers yet and they get prescribed Adderall. I've heard it as young as eight years old, a kid being prescribed Adderall. And Adderall now, you know, that's like speed for kids, I suppose.

32:46 But that's like the lesser of the evils with all the other psychiatric drugs that they get put on and it's very well known. And you can even see it on TV with the pharmaceutical ads that were supposed to be made illegal, but that's another story. And they'll tell you about some of the side effects and potential suicide or violent tendencies. So they know that this is going on. And then you have the political response, which is, oh, guns are to blame. So then these schools or these jurisdictions, especially if you're in a blue area, If you're in a red area like Florida, it goes a little differently. But oh no, no, no, no, we're not gonna put more guns on the scene. We're not gonna put armed security guards on the scene. We're gonna go the other direction. We're gonna put up signs that say no guns allowed. Yeah, well yeah, okay, so put up a sign that says no killing allowed too. It's the same difference, which is there will be no difference. Now, part of you says, you can't discount the human element of this. So when is it even,

34:04 When do you even start to get into a political response? Because you know it's going to happen. It's inevitable, especially when it's a school shooting like this. It happens more intensely, more rapidly. But it's like, okay, I guess you just kinda let the dead rest. And you say, here's the response that needs to happen, instead of just allowing some time here for the community and the families to go through it before the politicos start sweeping in and

34:42 turning it into a story and a political issue. But that's always how it goes. It's sad, but it's pretty clear. And I think now that we have some of the details, I think we can say pretty confidently, I mean, I'd say 98% chance armed security guard probably stops this shooting. Now that might not be the case with every shooting. And that doesn't mean it's gonna be a perfect system. But obviously, should they release specific details about this, it'll probably come out that he was probably pacing around outside that building for at least a minute or two or maybe five. I mean, barricading doors, I mean, that right there is like, yeah, he should be stopped immediately. And he barricaded two doors. So the political response shouldn't be, let's go after the guns. The political response, if you even want to call it that, but it's really not, it would be a survival mechanism.

35:52 The response should be, if I'm a school principal or superintendent or whatever, I'm on the phone right now with local private security. Or I'm on the phone right now and asking, can we get an on or off duty cop up here 24 seven? What can I do if I'm a principal or the leader of school? What can I do to make sure that if there's a gunman, there's a potential shooter coming to my school targeting my children, I'm gonna have somebody already on the scene trained to take him out before he can get off a single shot. It's not like it's impossible to do. And in fact, there are many schools that already have these protocols in place. I just so happen to know that from personal experience, going to high school at what was a military academy, they converted it

36:56 to a Christian college preparatory academy, but they still kept a lot of the military academy protocols. So, you know, we had Marines and stuff, colonels and stuff that were there. So maybe that's not the best example, but I mean, let me just say, they, we went through drills and this was before school shootings were even a thing. We had drills, we had protocols, the doors were already locked, cameras everywhere. If a gunman even stepped foot on the campus, he probably wouldn't even get anywhere near the building. So that might be kind of an extreme example. I was very blessed. I went to a great high school. But my point is that it is possible. You can have security protocols. I mean, folks, call one security expert right now. I mean, we obviously have to deal with a lot of security here. You talk to security experts, they'll tell you, hey, you know what? Maybe nothing is perfect, but yeah, we can absolutely put a plan together for your school that will significantly decrease the odds of any one of your students getting shot.

38:00 So that's a sad series of events. That's a tragic situation that we have to be in. But if we're not gonna have a real conversation about what's happening, then nothing is gonna change. And ultimately, I think that that's kind of the story here. And that's not to discount what these families are going through, obviously. That's about as bad as it gets. But isn't that kind of the story here? It's just like, the thing is getting worse.

CHAPTER 07 / 38 Discussion

DC Jail System, Recidivism and Judicial Failure

A Fox News clip features a suspect in an armed carjacking explaining how the DC judicial system repeatedly releases him despite active warrants. Owen Shroyer shares his own experience in the DC jail system, confirming that many inmates are frequent offenders who expect immediate release due to lenient judges and overcrowded facilities.

washington dc· dc jail· carjacking· recidivism· fox news· judicial system

38:40 We continue to have the same response and then the thing continues to get worse. We don't want to address the real problems It's like that's kind of a larger story with our country right now We don't want to address the real problems and you start to see some of it I would say with this administration like RFK jr. Just said that we're about to do our I think they're gonna have it next month in September and they're gonna have their big press conference and where he's going to lay out the facts of how vaccines have caused autism. But it's like, that's like one, that's like one little ornament on this tree. It's like, oh, well, what are we doing? We're addressing autism. We've got all these different drugs and pills and different educational systems and everything we do for these kids. It's like, well, what's causing the autism? No, let's address what's causing it. What's going on in these cities with all the crime rates and the homicide rates?

39:48 Like yeah, okay, we're gonna put the military on the streets and guess what? The crime rates are down to almost nothing in DC. That's a reality. It's like what's causing the crime? What's causing the crime? And people can make it a demographic issue, but no, demographics aren't causing crime. What's causing crime I mean, you can talk about criminal activity and demographics, but what's causing this, what's made it so bad, what's exacerbated it is leftist attorneys, leftist judges that keep the criminals on the streets. In fact, there's this video, I sent it to the crew, I mean, maybe we could play it here, where Fox is doing all these ride-alongs, because they get all the exclusives from the administration. And so they're riding along as the military is in DC, and the police arrest

40:47 this guy on a warrant and he's talking to the cameras. He's like, hey, look, I don't know why you guys are here arresting me. I've had this warrant. They've arrested me for this warrant. I've already been in the jail and arrested six times. They just let me back out here. So here's the clip and I'll follow up, but here's the clip I'm talking about. wanted in connection with an armed carjacking in Maryland told us that why are you sending me back to jail I won't even be there very long. The judge is literally going to say we're going to put him on a three day hold. Then once the three day hold is up, and the runner never shows up, I done been over DC jail six times for the same warrant. They never show up. DC jail has to release me. They release me. It's the same thing every f***ing time. The same thing every time.

41:33 Now, I just so happen to have experience in the DC jails and I'll tell you that that is exactly true. So when I'm in a jail cell with a guy for, I think I was in the cell with him for 24 hours and I was moved to a different cell into solitary. That was for protection reasons. And he basically, you're talking to this guy, he basically told me the exact same thing. Because I was kind of asking him some questions about the process that I'd go through and he said, well, most of us are criminals, we're in here all the time, they're gonna release us. So I imagine they're gonna release you for this. And I mean, folks, it's so bad where there'll be people that are coming in all night. By the end of the night, they fill the DC jail and they all know each other. And they'll see, oh, hey, Joe, hey, Bob, you know, hey. And it's, they all know each other because they're there every night and then they get released the very next day. So I'm going on about this issue and how we don't address the root causes. And I'm hoping we don't do the same thing after the shooting, but we always do. Alex Jones rejoins me now. And I'm not sure if he's talking to the crew. Is he talking to you guys?

CHAPTER 08 / 38 Discussion

Robert Westman Identity, Kyle Serafin Joins the Broadcast

Alex Jones identifies the Minneapolis shooter as Robert Westman (also known as Robin Westman), a trans-identified male. FBI whistleblower Kyle Serafin joins the program to confirm the identity based on law enforcement sources. They discuss the shooter's background and the potential for a corporate media cover-up regarding the suspect's gender identity.

robert westman· robin westman· kyle serafin· fbi whistleblower· minneapolis shooter

42:33 Okay, okay, he's getting some things squared up with the crew right now as far as breaking news. So Alex, are you with us now? Are you ready to go? Yes, I just connected. I just talked to Kyle Serafin, very respected batting 1000 FBI whistleblower. And he is just talked to other law enforcement sources and has confirmed that it is a trans identified male. That means male to female. And so now we've been given the green light. He's gonna be joining us as we speak to reveal the identity of the Minneapolis, Minnesota Catholic school mass shooter who reportedly took his own life this morning, firing in through the state glass windows, through the windows. There he is, Robert Westman, now Robin Westman,

43:34 This is reportedly according to Carl Serafin, who's never been wrong. It's actually shocking how accurate it is. Not just from his sources, but how he's able to predict everything that happens. And the guy's impressive, I'll just leave it at that. And he's connecting right now. He knew this right when it started from sources in the FBI. And with the, whether I didn't have a chance to ask him, I should have, whether it's a DMV or a mugshot, we can ask him right now. From a 2000 and then 23 photo of Robert Westman, now Robin Westman. And of course, we have multiple children now confirmed dead, and up to over 20 people. They're saying now more than 20 people shot in this cowardly, satanic attack.

44:21 Basically, every mass school shooting that hasn't been gang related. The last four years has been this trans uprising. There's all these serial killer killings going on. They're trying to suppress that. They try to suppress the Nashville killer. And then there's definitely saw in Tennessee with the manifesto. And so reportedly, according to Carl Serafin, it is Robert It is Robert Westman, now Robin Westman. We'll put that back on screen. In fact, we can minimize that. You can even see the law enforcement file there and his reported signature. So perhaps this is a DMV. Again, I forgot to ask Kyle that. I believe we have Kyle Serafin here with us now. So I'm gonna let him have the floor. We do have Kyle Serafin, FBI whistleblower.

45:10 Terrible for all of us, but I know you're a conservative Catholic yourself. The guy that blew the whistle on the targeting of conservative Catholics is the main terror threat, completely insane, and by the DHS and FBI. So this is, you have children, I have children. This is just, rips my guts out. And so every day I drop my eight year old daughter off at school, many days pick her up. I'm just thinking my God, thank God they've got some law enforcement here. I know the churches around my house, whether they're Catholic or Protestant, have police there, they're only $50 an hour. Every church needs police. Obviously this wasn't there, the law enforcement saying, so Kyle, you give us the latest accurate information and this information and the photo we have and what's happening. And then obviously we're gonna see a corporate media response trying to suppress this. So Kyle Serafin.

CHAPTER 09 / 38 Discussion

FBI Culture, Intelligence Agency Overreach and Whistleblowers

Kyle Serafin discusses the politicization of the FBI and the Department of Justice, alleging that management suppresses information that contradicts preferred narratives. He recounts his family's history with the Branch Davidian standoff and criticizes the FBI's focus on traditionalist Catholics as a terror threat. Serafin emphasizes the need for radical transparency in federal law enforcement.

fbi· merrick garland· catholic vote· kyle serafin· david koresh· whistleblowers

45:57 Hey Alex and hey Owen. Yeah guys, this is atrocious. I went to Catholic schools for a lot of my younger life and I went to Catholic high school and it makes me sick. I've got little kids and this is the reason why I homeschool because I don't want to be a guy that gets the phone call that you have to show up and find out if your kids are okay and something like this happened. It's a sickness in America clearly and we have a pretty dark time. The additional sickness is politicization of law enforcement and the possibility of our corporate media trying to run cover for ideologies that are not American, I guess. I mean, I don't even know what you call it, but

46:40 I grew up at a time when people wanted to see children safe. Actually, you guys may not know this, but one of the oldest stories is that my dad actually received phone calls from David Koresh during the middle of the Branch Davidian standoff while the ceasefire was going on. And while they were negotiating the ceasefire, my dad got calls for that. And they basically broke studio policy and they were working with CBS at the time. And they broke the sort of network policy and started reading the demands of a madman out loud to be able to get kids out of that compound so that some would survive. Many of them did not, but a lot of them were released as a result of reading some kind of pseudo-biblical garbage. And they get to live their lives, however damaged they were afterwards. The story goes like this.

47:23 We're really concerned. I think law enforcement people who just wanna do the good work of keeping Americans safe and there's plenty of people that wanna do that. And there's also people in management that don't wanna tell the real story and they wanna go chastise you for noticing things that happened. I think there's a real concern in law enforcement right now that this stuff will get covered up. And we saw what happened in Tennessee and how long it took for the FBI to release information there. And so people reach out to me and I'm not gonna, I have to be kind of cautious because Alex, I gotta protect the sources of the people that wanna share this stuff. And so The information is that I think there's some pictures and then I can't see what you guys are showing on the screen right now. But I believe that you guys have some photos of what the trans identified person look like. And that apparently he had some YouTube channel and I've had people reaching out to me on X Twitter and asking me, hey, is this the right guy? Can we go download all of his channels? Like, yep, go get it. So they're archiving it. At the end of the day right now, what we're seeing is a moment where the media

48:13 doesn't have trust and alternative media like this and independent media are the only ones that can actually be trusted to go do work without narrative or spin and without motivation. And there's no joy in reporting on something like this. It's atrocious, it's tragedy. I mean, every single day I go to church and any holy day of obligation I go to church, I carry a gun. I carry a reload. I don't do that in my normal life. I don't go to the grocery store with a reload for my handgun. But I train out to 100 yards with a handgun in case I have to deal with something like this because this is the reality of the world we live in right now. And a lot of this is residual. It's a residual Biden administration policy. If you guys remember, we had a decidedly anti-Christian and anti-Catholic specifically moment.

48:55 My friends that I worked with for a little while over at Catholic Vote were keeping a tally on all of the churches that were defaced and face act violations that were committed in the United States. And the excuse that Merrick Garland gave was, it was dark outside so we couldn't see who they were. Or they had a mask on, it was really hard to identify them. They had no problem finding J6ers. Owen, I know they had no problem finding out who you were or who was around you. But they made excuses for these people. that they didn't really have much upon the identity and that he had no criminal record. So I'm hearing what you're reporting in this, and I'm like, well, obviously the feds have this. And I know I can attest to what you're saying about a YouTube channel, there is something there. Are the feds withholding information from the police? Is that why you had to release this? I think that without being too specific that I think that the general instinct is, is it because of the nature and how sensitive this could be?

50:01 you're gonna find that there's ideologies that are still at play. Look, when I tell you that the guys that are running the FBI have not recaptured it, I'm not joking. When I tell you that DOJ has not been recaptured by the people that run it, I'm not joking. I'm not making this stuff up. There's evidence of it every day. And so whether it's the evidence that they're still continuing to resist against my lawsuit, that they fought hard to keep the whistleblowers out that just got reinstated yesterday and kind of on like suboptimal terms. The same people that are doing that are the same people that are controlling the narrative and they wanna make sure that the press releases comport with what the FBI is willing to do. And they'll tell the guys at the top, hey, we can't do this for fill in the blank reasons. They don't have the background to say we're gonna be radically transparent with Americans cuz that's what we're gonna do.

50:44 Yeah, obviously, the concern is that they're withholding information. And the concern is that people in local law enforcement needs to have sharing and that doesn't happen. Anybody who's worked in local law enforcement knows the feds keep stuff. They don't open up the books. It's usually a one way street and it's like sort of like a heart valve where it's like it goes in one direction of the flow. And the flow is like, you've got stuff great, give it to our people. Once the FBI moves into an investigation, they oftentimes do not go back down and down brief the people that are actually doing the work on the streets. And I found myself oftentimes that that was the, it's in the movies too, but it's the real feeling of law enforcement that does the real work every day, like interacting with the public. They're frustrated with the feds because the feds have access to bigger databases, know things, put out partial information that doesn't quite inform them. And it's like, well, why don't you just open your books to us? And they always hide it for various different reasons, sources and methods or national security and so on.

51:37 So all these things are, it's problematic because this is an ongoing FBI culture that has existed for years. I mean, this is not new. If anybody has even seen, you guys go back and watch Die Hard. And it was old by then when you and I were kids. So this is, This is the federal government's general move. And a lot of it comes from the FBI think of itself as an intelligence agency, which is the drum I beat over and over again. If you think your job is intelligence, like you don't get big disclosures from the CIA ever or the NSA. It just doesn't happen. And so you're gonna find Problematically, that the bureau is going to be either disingenuous or they're going to be shortcoming on certain things and FBI responding and then that's it. It goes into a black bag. My interest is that this story is obviously a trend and guys like Andy Noe, who independent over at Post Millennial, they do a great job of exposing it. But the question is, if it gets buried under mainstream

52:29 wait and it just gets disappeared cuz it's not convenient to a narrative. We got a problem. Well, we're going to break here in a moment. And obviously I would say my dad's having open heart surgery is about to come out. They're saying it went okay so far. So I appreciate your prayers. But stay with us because this is so important. It's terrible these kids got killed. It's terrible all this happened. But you're absolutely right. It's this trend of trans rage, the left, their abuse, Christians are the enemy, Catholics are the enemy. This was put out by the Obama-controlled Biden DOJ that you exposed first, and then were fired over. And even a week ago when you said, well, they say they've reinstated him, but they haven't. I said, they've made the decision. They haven't told people yet. It's suboptimal, but it's happening. You are literally in the zeitgeist, at the center of it right now.

53:15 They're totally what you fear, honorable FBI agents and people in the government that can explain to the American people how the system works. It is so important that you're here with us today, Kyle Serafin. People should find you at kyleserafinshow.com and all the work you do. But please stay with us to unpack this and what is clearly going to be an ongoing cover up and if you have to disconnect with your sources of their another calling you a text you to pop back in with new information. We really, really appreciate you. This is so important. I appreciate Owen and just the enforced crew and that's why I'm forces here. So we can have people online like Kyle Serafin and so many others that do have the integrity. That's why they want us shut down. Why it's so important for all you Paul Revere's to the live feed on X right now at Relox Jones, share the rumble feed, share the info wars.com for our show feed. Do it now. We'll be right back. Last five years I've had all these scientists on promoting spike protein detoxes that have saved so many people and done all this and found we're like, Hey, we better do our own. Let's make the best. We take the two best selling ones.

CHAPTER 10 / 38 Discussion

Deep State Grand Juries, Resistance to Globalism

Alex Jones discusses the existence of real grand juries in multiple states targeting deep state actors, contrasting them with past "Q" theories. He praises Kyle Serafin as a "North Star" for truth and urges listeners to act as "Paul Reveres" by sharing information. Jones asserts that the globalist narrative control is failing as more whistleblowers come forward.

kash patel· dan bongino· grand juries· deep state· globalism· paul revere

58:21 to both of them and it's on Kyle was just breaking it down and it's true. It looks like the coverup is already on actually, I would say if some of the stuff we're seeing out there turns out to be true, it looks like the coverup is already on Alex. Well, it is and look, I don't blow smoke. I don't kiss people's ass. When I first heard about Kyle Serafin years ago, I thought, well, this is a great guy. And you know, the other ones I got to know him, the sources he gave me all panned out and we're all 100%. I tried about 1,000. I never try to get things wrong. I try to be accurate. But when you're going on a limb, I'm batting 800 or whatever. Kyle, because he is so dialed in and has such an understanding, I'll just say it. He doesn't want his job back at the FBI. Kyle Serafin ought to be the FBI director. I'm serious, because that's what we need to save this country, and he is who they fear. And so let's remember, Kash Patel and Mancino said he was the greatest guy ever, and so was O'Boyle.

59:19 And then as soon as they got into power, they went to Grassley secretly and said, don't let these guys back in, they're bad. Which did signify they'd sold out. And Kyle told me that probably six months ago. And then publicly he said it. But we need to stop kissing these people's asses and only support the people that deliver the goods. And so My celebration of Kyle Serafin is about celebrating truth and accuracy. Because it's simple, why do sailors follow the North Star before they had GPS? Because it's always there and they can plot their course off of it and it's right. And so right now Kyle Serafin is the North Star and he needs to be careful because they tried to indict him as well. He gets the same grand jury crap all the time I get.

1:00:01 As people who understand viewers, we're not eight years ago when Trump didn't know what was going on and didn't put good people in. He's gotten some good people now, like Ed Martin, who I've talked to at a great detail, leave it at that, and others. So I wanna talk about the ongoing coverup. I think it's clearly going on. This was a Trump right winger, you'd heard it immediately. But it shows there's good people in the FBI that got the truth to Kyle. So we should know about that. And that's really the facts here, is that it doesn't matter if CNN and MSNBC and the FBI top floors to try to cover this up. It doesn't matter because we have the bigger shows, we have the integrity, we have the sources. And so that's why there should be optimism, not in the power structure, but that we can hold the feet to the fire. We're not a panic and we're holding the feet to the fucking firing.

1:00:47 And so we got the ball, is what I'm telling listeners. And there are good task force leaders in there. That's why Flynn has been a big pessimist. He's like, no, I'm told the indictments are incoming. They got grand juries open in Virginia, Pennsylvania, New York, Missouri, Florida. I mean, I got given a bunch of stuff and I This was on record, that was off record. But I can tell you, the reason I'm telling you all this is not to create a false sense of optimism like the Q people. Back then I was saying it wasn't real and I was right. Hillary wasn't secretly executed, there weren't people secretly getting, no. This is going down and I can tell you they're going after income tax, anything they can get them on. And they got grand juries, they got jurisdictions that don't play around. America's ready for war, like that Scottish girl, we're tired of laying down.

1:01:35 And the Catholics, conservative Catholics aren't surrendering. And so the Globalist declared war on the American people, anybody that's traditionalist, well, we accept the challenge. We're gonna go to break, join all the stations. I want to talk big picture with Kyle and talk about obviously I agree with both of you, they cover up song. But that will only make this blow up ten times bigger in my prediction. But it's the viewers and listeners that have to understand you're the Paul Revere's. So don't just sit there and hope on Gino does his job or Patel or Bondi. No, you do your job. You share this live feed of real-life shows right now. You share the rumble feed. You shine will cast. You put it out. You take the clips out because it doesn't matter if they cover up as a trans shooter. We have already blown it wide open. It doesn't matter if they cover up the Tim Walz is intimately connected to the mass shooting up there. It's already out. So we have the ball. We're winning all Revere shirt, a lot of feeds right now. We'll get an update.

CHAPTER 11 / 38 Discussion

Geopolitical Updates, Tony Blair and Jared Kushner

Owen Shroyer briefly mentions upcoming news regarding Tony Blair and Jared Kushner briefing Donald Trump on post-war plans for Gaza. Alex Jones continues his critique of the DOJ and FBI, claiming that Trump has not yet gained full control of these agencies and must rely on outside pressure from his "OG" supporters to enact change.

tony blair· jared kushner· gaza· donald trump· netanyahu· department of justice

1:02:30 A recap on the attempted cover up, what happened in Minnesota, the latest numbers, praying for the families. And then I'm gonna talk to Kyle about big picture and his take on the Ed Martin information. And then my dad's coming out of surgery right now. I'm gonna punch out of this. and go and deal with this. Appreciate your vice president. All right, into the second hour, Owen Schroer in the InfoWars World Headquarters here in Austin, Texas. Alex Jones with us on the road. Cal Sarifan with us in his studios. I will let you know, we do have a lot of news to get to today. Once we finish up with this, a lot of exclusive coverage on the show today, I'll start to get into some of the other big news like this. Tony Blair and Jared Kushner to brief Trump on Gaza post-war plans.

1:03:16 So some other major geopolitical developments as well with these other stacks of news. But going back to Alex right now on the road and Kyle Serafin in his studio as we're all kind of responding and trying to get down to the bottom of what's happened in the aftermath of this shooting in Minneapolis. Well, Kyle, some stations don't care that first five. So he heard my question though. corporations in life and families in government. And Kyle over a week ago, he's like, they say they're reinstated cuz he's got some of the super wisdom, I got some of it. He's like, this is bull, they haven't reinstated him. I said, they are announcing as the decision has been made, you've won, even though it's a screw job. How you've won is the fact that all these FBI agents who are good at bidding women,

1:04:09 And in my life experience, FBI just I've always known a really cool, smart, great people that hated tyranny. They were always telling me how bad the government was. Whether it was Ted Gunnarson or anybody, it's the leadership, it's the key divisions. And so really as a cause celeb, as an archetype, as an example, Kyle Serafin now with all the FBI giving him all the exclusive intel that continues to be deadly accurate. is what they fear. Because if that spreads into the other agencies, the Department of Energy, Department of Commerce, the EPA, everywhere, the local government, it's over. To let good men and women know, it's time to blow the whistle. It's time to stand up. It's time to speak out. So Obama running Biden was so scared of Catholics standing up and saying, you're not gonna teach our kids to cut their penises off and you're not gonna do all this. They said, oh, they're the terrorist government because they wanna intimidate people. And of course it backfired.

1:05:00 So the globalists thought they were winning because we were intimidated. No, people were asleep. They still thought they were in a free country. They've miscalculated. Now that people know, oh, this is a fight. We're not looking for a fight, but somebody walks up and punches me in the face. I'm not scared at that point. I'm in action. So bigger than this terrible shooting and these dead kids and this horrible trans shooter and the cover-up going on is the fact it doesn't matter they try to cover up only makes it bigger because everybody out there is gonna share these videos these reports not just on X but on rumble and everywhere else and and so they're failing we're winning but but just big picture

1:05:37 Recap your intel, what you got from law enforcement, now confirmed trans shooter, YouTube channel, TransRage, all of this, the cover up, where that goes, and just how nasty the left is, that they're still doing the old thing of we'll intimidate you, we'll terrorize you, we'll kill you, you'll give us access to your children to brainwash them for our cult. They can't have their cake and eat it too. And then you heard me get into Ed Martin, and this isn't nebulous secret ran juries. This is confirmed. Yeah, go ahead and tell people, Alex, this district of Virginia, the CIA and NSA, this district here, this district there. We're going after everything, scorched earth, rampage. It took months and months to even get the group set up. They tried to block Ed Martin. He told me the other groups that are good, who was bad. This is on record, that's off record.

1:06:28 He's coming on soon. I gotta leave it at that but but but and the internal battles It's just amazing because when you have the inside view like I do from my angles and Sarah from from his Then we combine forces, this is beautiful folks, this is victory, you can smell it. And when courage sets fire, and when people learn to stand up and not submit and tell the truth, and not worship cult of personalities of Bongino or Patel, but support and back the truth, that's when we win. So Kyle, I'm ranting here, but I'm gonna sit here and listen to you, my dad's coming out of surgery, I'm gonna go listen and deal with that. But I really appreciate you.

1:07:06 And what's happening and we should also just talk about the general issues. It's not an undermining of Trump to say no, he hasn't gotten control of the FBI. It's not an undermining to say he hasn't got control of the DOJ. It's the truth. And we were told by all the bots, sit down, shut up, go away, you're traitors. Trump, 60 trillion chest, no. Trump's good. He needs to hear from us. And when he does, he usually does the right thing. They want his real constituents, his real OGs, to sit down and shut up and listen to the Netanyahu lobby and the rest of them, and it's not happening. So we're at a very powerful moment right now. And basically everybody calls Seraphine Spotlights now gets fired. That's good, because Trump's busy. And so if Patel and Boggino, I don't know if he did, but Patel certainly decided to roll over, work with the system,

CHAPTER 12 / 38 Discussion

Spiritual Warfare, Transgender Ideology and Child Safety

Kyle Serafin frames the current societal conflict as a spiritual war, citing instances of biological males competing in female sports in Portland. He argues that transgender ideology is a form of "whispered evil" that targets the innocence of children. Serafin reflects on his own termination from the FBI as a spiritual turning point and emphasizes the duty of men to protect their families.

jesus christ· transgender· portland· track and field· spiritual warfare· isaiah 6:8

1:07:53 Well, we're not doing it. And it shows we have people power. So we have the power, we have the ball, we have the initiative. And we're going to win if we simply do the right thing. We put Trump in to do this. He works for us, Kyle Serafin. That's a lot, but unpack it. Yeah, there's a lot. First of all, our prayers for your dad as he's coming out of recovery in there and the surgery cuz that's a big deal. This feels like being a vulture. And when I started getting calls from people to ask and talk about this, it's just like, I'm nauseated. I just gave my two year old a kiss and had to kick her out of the studio so I could jump on with you guys. I got my four year old downstairs. I got my six year old and my eight year old. I've got four little kids who are school aged and go to catechism. They don't go to Catholic schools right now, but they could and their friends do in places around here. It makes me sick. I feel disgusted about it. It's pretty rare that I talk to one of my sources and I say, hey, how good is this intel?

1:08:45 They usually go, it's very likely or it's strong possibility. This is the first time that one of my sources told me something 100%. It never happens. That's 100% confirmed. And so I had this information seconds after it happens, which is nauseating. And the scariest thing is, is that they were really worried that this was gonna get covered up and that it was gonna be shoved under the rug. And we weren't gonna see the truth about what's going on. And the truth is, is that Alex, you and I have talked privately about what the revolution looks like and how funny it is that you've got the name sitting there spinning on a little icon, Info Wars, that this is an information war. Because everybody thought the war was going to look like one thing, right? Everybody thought it was kinetic. And so you have all these pictures. Everybody thought that the war for this country was going to look like what BLM was doing in 2020. And they were tearing up the streets and they were doing

1:09:33 Everybody thought that it was gonna be violence in the streets, that it was gonna be people uprising and pushing back and burning buildings. And what the war looks like is taking your family to church. And my wife who grew up in New York wearing a veil now having grown up as an atheist and having, she got baptized. You may not know this Alex, but she got baptized. And that was on Easter Sunday. It was the Easter vigil going in April of 2022. And on Monday after Easter Sunday, they came and took my badge and my gun. If you think about it, this is not a spiritual thing for some of us that are involved in it. There's too many signs. It continues to reaffirm me that this is just like, this is basic evil and it's not.

1:10:10 over evil and it's not glowing red eyes where Satan comes out and laughs at you and speaks in tongues. It's the kid that grew up down the street from you that decided that the thing that he's being whispered is that you could be something else. You could grow your hair out and if you have long hair, you could be a girl. I just saw a track meet in Portland, Oregon, where some boy beat all the girls on the track. By like 25%, he was eight or nine seconds ahead in a 400 meter run. And somebody, some gross lady was down there giving him a high five and reaffirming that decision for him to go and race a bunch of girls. And whether it's you're beating girls on the track or you're beating them in a sporting event at the Olympics, or you decide that you're gonna go in and shoot a bunch of little kids at mass.

1:10:53 It's nauseating and this is what the real evil looks like. And the resistance doesn't look like what people thought it does. It's not you drawing your weapon to going out and plate carriers and trying to take a building down or light things on fire. It's you protecting your family and teaching them what's right and teaching them who the person of Jesus Christ is and why the perfect man in this world died and didn't fight back and he actually allowed it. And it's the opposite of violence, but doesn't mean that violence is not done to him. So Anyway, I'm sickened by this. I'm sickened that law enforcement is also asked to be complicit. Because the people that wanna do law enforcement in this country, not all of them, sure there's some jerks. There's some people that are power hungry and egotist and we've all met them. We all know that personality type. There's a lot of people that just wanna go out there and stand in the gap for their community that wake up every morning, put on their pants and they think if something bad is gonna happen, Lord send me. I have a pin that says it's Isaiah 6, 8.

1:11:48 And it's that reminder, it's like here I am, I'm available for tasking to fight against evil. We saw it at the shooting that happened in Tennessee in 2023. Some men showed up, they didn't know what was happening. And all of a sudden, they got tapped into the Super Bowl of there's evil and you have to go liberate some children. And you might have to sacrifice your life for it. And those men ran in and did the right thing. And if you watch the body cam footage, they killed it. They were so good at what they did. I think they were guided by Providence, they're guided by the Holy Spirit to just go directly to that threat, put themselves in the right way and solve the problem. In this case, we're hearing that this shooter took himself out, which is the most cowardly thing you can do. You decided to go kill a bunch of little kids, gross, disgusting, and why? Because this society has been whispering evil and lies into your head. And this is the one thing that I've kind of landed on and maybe Alex, maybe I'm off base here, but kids will always tell you the truth and they don't know any better.

1:12:40 They'll ask you questions that are so innocent and true. You have my six year old out there, dad, why is that man wearing a dress? Why is that man wearing a women's bathing suit? And then you're a father and you don't wanna lie to your kids and you just say that they're sick or they're confused or they've got problems. They will tell you the truth. They'll tell you. That's why they hate them. Go ahead, sorry. It's out of the mouths of babes and that's it. And as your sources told you minutes after it happened, they said we're afraid they're gonna cover it up again. That's the power that finally people in law enforcement at every level and every other place say we can't be part of this. It's out in the open, that's why we're winning. As sad as this is, our enemies are gonna do crazy things. It's a very powerful moment where people aren't gonna participate in the law anymore. So Kyle, you take over, I wanna get your take on-. Yeah, I'll tell you something here, Alex.

CHAPTER 13 / 38 Discussion

Information War, Technology Outpacing Media Control

The hosts discuss how modern technology and platforms like Elon Musk's X have made it impossible for the government to stop the "signal" of truth. They argue that independent media can now validate facts faster than legacy institutions. Jones expresses confidence that the "courage wave" among whistleblowers will eventually bring down the corrupt power structure.

firefly· serenity· elon musk· x· alternative media· information war

1:13:32 One of my journalist buddies reached out to me and had a conversation with somebody inside the FBI today. And shared some things that I also knew with this FBI person. And he told me that the most haunting thing that he heard is this guy said you hear too much. So you're exactly right in identifying that moment that we're at right now. It reminds me, I'm kind of a accidental sci-fi kind of nerd. I don't mean to be, but I've watched all the Firefly and I've watched Serenity. And there's this moment where it's like, you can't stop the signal. That was the message that came out of the movie version. You can't stop the signal once it starts coming out because truth, it comes out

1:14:10 And the technology now is outrun the ability of the mainstream media to basically go in and tamp down on narrative. So you can't get have the same mechanisms of control on people. The sleuthing that goes on, I had a CBS reporter I was talking to earlier today. He's like, he did some really good sleuthing and dug up and stuff on FBI folks. The skill set has been broadly distributed. So I've got people in my DMs that are happening right now. But credit to guys like Mr. Guns and Gear and John Bathsome, guys that are sending me pictures and saying, hey, is this the guy? And I go, yep, that's it. I'm not gonna out my sources and I don't need it for clicks or for Twitter and I sure as shit don't wanna be known for the guy that breaks the story. I already knew it. They're just coming out and saying, hey, is this, because I need, I gotta protect the sources that are gonna share information with me. That's far more important than being like the first guy to report something. I'm not gonna give the name even though I had it before anybody else did. I'm not gonna share pictures. But if you show me a picture, I'll say, yeah, that's the guy, go do it. And now we can outsource some of this information to kind of cover up for these folks that are trying to do the right thing, which is to say you cannot cover this. Let's do this. Exactly. Your phone's blown up. Take a break. Call servershow.com.

1:15:16 for 10, 15 minutes, whenever you're ready, call back in, cuz get your new data, the latest data, come back on with us. And while that's going on, I want to cover other news and things that are happening. But again, this is bigger than the kids that are killed, it's terrible, it's horrible. It's the cover up, it's good FBI calling you saying, well, there's a cover up. We think there's a cover up, that's the instinct that's gonna bring this down. And it's just like dominoes, once this courage wave happens and it's happening, it's over. And so we are so close, I can feel it. I can see it and after I'm gone, comment on grand juries that are now open. They weren't open eight years ago, that was all Q lies. This is real, doesn't mean it's done. We gotta keep putting pressure on but I get people at parks and grocery stores.

1:16:00 You better get them indicted like I'm doing it. No, I'm under attack and put me in prison. I want to put them in prison more than you do. But I'm glad to see the public that pissed off. And I understand Owen was in prison and is a little jaded. I'm telling you, I've been doing this 31 years. I've seen us move the needle violently against the enemy. Keep praying, keep focused, keep pressure on because we're so close. Because we can have be black pilled and think nothing's ever gonna happen. when we're finally catching fire. So, Kyle, it's been a few minutes, closing statement for now. I'm just saying, I know you got a lot to get. Spend 20 minutes, 30 minutes, whatever you need, but promise you're gonna come back with the new information and the latest updates for folks. Kyle Serafin. All right, Kyle, you got the floor. Owen, you got the floor. Kyle, come back 10 minutes, 20 minutes, whatever you need, 30 minutes. Give us the latest. I know your phone's loaded. Thank you so much, Kyle Serafin.

1:16:51 Yeah, I'm just looking at seeing what some of this stuff is like. At the end of the day, it's going to be people who care about truth that's going to bring anything down. And yeah, and I'm also just oscillating between waves of nausea and feeling terrible about, you know, I can, I went to Catholic schools. I sat in mass when I was, when I was a kid and, and this didn't happen then. So we have a, we have a sickness in society and I think a lot of it comes through. You cannot, I understand you are a real person so you have empathy, but we're in a war. They're going to misrepresent and say it's a Trump supporter with fake info soon or something like that. I understand you're nauseated right now, but you've got the truth, you've got it, you broke it. People cared enough to tell you because they were worried. So I understand that. We are in control of the narrative, we're in control of the truth. It's gonna blow up their face. So I understand that, but just get the info out and attack the enemy with the truth. God bless you.

CHAPTER 14 / 38 Discussion

Robert Westman Social Media, Anti-Christian Sentiment

Kyle Serafin provides further details on shooter Robert Westman, noting a YouTube channel and social media history involving his mother's support for his name change. Serafin links the attack to a broader pattern of violence against pro-life centers and Catholic churches, such as Jane's Revenge. He argues that the FBI's targeting of traditional Latin Mass Catholics emboldened such attacks.

robert westman· robin westman· latin mass· fbi· catholic vote· jane's revenge

1:17:43 All right, so a couple, let's see, about an hour and a half ago I put out a tweet. This is on X and the statement was, I'm told the alleged shooter at the Annunciation Catholic School in Minneapolis, it's a trans identified male by the name of Robert, AKA Robin Westman. We withheld the name at the time to be able to make sure that the rest of the folks that could find figure it out. ID photo showed a white male, you guys have looked, that's the ID photo, that's who we're talking about. This is the person they're looking at, long hair, long hair does not make you a girl. And anybody who says otherwise, I can't tell the age on that, but deceased by gunshot wound to self and

1:18:23 targeted children. We're seeing some other stuff that says that he had video channels like so many people was out there trying to express himself using things like Russian, which I'm told could be used as a memes and gamer stuff, but also might mean that he speaks Russian. It's obviously an evolving situation. They're people's babies who will never come home. So that's all disgusting. But all of this reeks of the same evil that comes down from years of it. You can't excuse it. We saw cover ups, we saw the Justice Department complicit in it under the previous administration, where they did not go and find people from Jane's Revenge who were firebombing churches and abortion crisis centers for people who wanted to have their baby and were worried about it. And so this is the spiritual piece of it. There's a legitimate

1:19:07 obvious connection between targeting specific churches. There's this meme that I remember that somebody said, as a Catholic, we always sort of, we don't question it. But whenever you see Hollywood represent the devil and how you fight the devil, it's with the traditional Latin mass. It's not a coincidence to me that in February of 2023, I exposed that the FBI was targeting traditional Latin mass Catholics. That they were using it more broadly to go after Christians, no matter what denomination because the person who saw this and was appalled was not a Catholic and certainly not a Latin mass Catholic. And then more broadly, all people who hold basic pro-life and conservative values. The things that were mentioned by our FBI, which was just a mouthpiece for something much, much bigger.

1:19:52 was saying that conservatives who have a problem with immigration not being completely unfettered and actually closing the border was an issue. And all of those things could make you a white supremacist, that evil thing that says that you're gonna be a bigot and that you're gonna basically identify people by skin color. This is a very narrow little piece of it. Alex talking about a war fine. This is one of the battles that continues to go on. And it's a narrative battle right now. And that's why people are reaching out and saying, hey, we need to make sure that we have this. And as you've appropriately stated, the audience is actually participating in this today in a way that has not happened. It didn't happen in 2020 because of the censorship. So we've got the freedom of people like Elon Musk who have liberated the ability for people just to say it even if they don't like what it said.

1:20:35 We got to be cautious and judicious with this power to share information because we could have things that were untrue. But never that I can recall since I've been a public figure, did one of my people reach out and say this is a 100% fact. And you've got a trans identified dude who apparently was involved. I've got the mom social media, we haven't mined it yet. But apparently the mom social media was out there and she was participating in court cases to help change the name. So this person may have legally changed his name from Robert to Robin. And reaffirming delusion and reaffirming lies is where this comes down. If you tell people things that are not true about themselves, about reality, then they will act like reality is not real. And they will go after people that are the most innocent, that only know about things. They don't know about constructs. Our children, if any of you have them, you know what I'm talking about. Under 10 years old, they're not indoctrinated by societal ideas that a man could become a woman or a woman could become a man. And that's an adult idea.

1:21:29 And that's why I think kids are always addressed. That's why they're always the target in these things. So you're starting to see some of this stuff flow out. What we're gonna see is an evolving situation where a combination of citizen journalist types, which is just to say people who care and guys like me who have sourcing inside law enforcement, you're gonna see law enforcement well, and you're gonna see the machine push back. Because this is not a comfortable narrative and nobody wants to go and place the blame on it. But you can see a direct line from lying about reality, not punishing people that were involved in petty crimes. This is more broadly, Alex, if you want to get real specific. The whole idea of broken window pane policing, and they have to shut down crime at the local level. I don't think the federal government's the right tool for it. I think it's like a tourniquet on a big bleed. But you have to address small crimes because they become big crimes. People who are doing wheelie gangs and riding around Baltimore City 13 years ago end up having carjacks in Washington DC. And they're the same people that are riding the ATVs around. And they all look the same and they all come from the same background. Why? Because small crimes were tolerated.

1:22:29 Violence against churches was tolerated under the Biden administration. Zero question about it. People can go to catholicvote.org and they have an unrequited, unindicted list of Catholic churches that were interrupted and destroyed in mass and pro-life pregnancy centers that were of all denominations. They weren't just Catholic, they were Christians most broadly who think that abortion is evil and killing babies is evil. And if you think it's okay for them to be killed in the womb, suddenly you find out they don't mind killing them after the fact either. And so all this stuff is like it grows out of the father lies. I'm feeling particularly spiritually connected to this stuff right now. And like I said, the religious nature of it is so obvious when they attack a church, when anybody attacks a church. And there have been hundreds of these things that have happened over the past, let's say four years. And if you don't go after the perpetrators of them, all they do is get emboldened and they do something that's more aggressive. So the men that understand what this is, guys, this is the time

1:23:25 Everybody wants to stay away from violence. Nobody wants to get involved in it. Nobody wants to see that person that lives peacefully with their kids and sits at home and doesn't engage in the conflict part of it. Because if we go get engaged, that's the part where part of yourself is gonna have to die. I think that's what men saw in 2020. And that's why they were resistant to speak out in 2021. And that time is over, you have to speak. You have to know things. Thank God there's a couple of people that are willing to come out and speak to me. I'm willing to share it with you. It's not fun. It's not something to be excited about. Nobody wants to be the person that breaks the story. Nobody wants to be the person that first says it and puts pressure on. But if we don't put pressure on people, then they don't act. And that's what we've seen. Kash Patel, same story. You showed that. I literally clicked and pulled his press release simply to let him know that people know and you can't hide the narrative. In the same way he lied about reinstating whistleblowers, they're willing to lie about anything because the people that are advising these guys do not have America's best interests at heart.

1:24:24 That has nothing to do with the people that are on the street maybe that are doing an investigation and realize the problem. We found out a lot of people are willing to follow orders in 2020 and 2021. And some people weren't, and those people have paid pretty heavily. Luckily, we had kind of a redemption moment. I would say vindication but not justice. It wasn't victory yesterday, but There's movement. Alex is not wrong. There is an undercurrent of movement happening right now. It's really, really heavy. It's weighing on me more than normal. And so anyway, I know we're going to cut the break for a second here, but that's my thoughts on the matter. This is like the open skirmish that is happening currently right now. And it's on every front and mostly it feels spiritual.

CHAPTER 15 / 38 Discussion

Media Halftime, Alternative Press vs. Federal Cover-up

Owen Shroyer notes that while the alternative media has already archived the shooter's videos and identified the suspect, the mainstream media and federal government remain silent. He describes this as a "halftime" scenario where the free press is winning the information battle. Donald Trump issues a statement confirming he has been briefed on the Minneapolis tragedy.

donald trump· fbi· minneapolis· mainstream media· cover-up· free press

1:27:46 or if Alex or Kyle rejoins us, we'll bring you that information as well. I do have a lot of other news to get to, but to kind of wrap this up, I'm quite stunned actually because as Kyle put it, the velocity of technology is now lapping the mainstream media and the federal government. Now, I got to be very, very

1:28:31 Thoughtful about how I'm gonna present this to you, but I'll put it to you like this And I've my crew it has already done this today But you now see it's basically all over the alternative media everything that Kyle Serafin was reporting hours ago and then has been breaking down with Alex Jones in an hour and a half now of the Alex Jones show and then I can tell you that there are other videos and photos that you'll likely be seeing very soon as well with the alternative media. Now, the minute, whenever, or if ever, I guess at this point, they decide to confirm all of this publicly, then we're dealing with something that we have to really question why. If all this alternative media was able to gather this information,

1:29:47 If my own crew, just doing their digging and the work that they do, was able to gather a lot of this information. If sources close to the situation were able to share this information with Kyle Serafin, and by the way, President Trump just issued this statement, I have been fully briefed on the tragic shooting in Minneapolis, Minnesota. The FBI quickly responded and they are on the scene. The White House will continue to monitor this terrible situation. Please join me in praying for everyone involved. Well folks, If all of these other people can already have access to this information and archive this information, and now a lot of them sharing this information, then 100% they could have presented this information to the public. 100%. Now, I could sit here and say, well, let's hear their reasoning why they wouldn't, and surely there could be a good reason for that. Ongoing investigations and other such things. The shooter is dead.

1:30:49 But if they refuse, because this is nowhere on network news, nowhere on network news, no mainstream networks are covering this, nothing from the government at any level, local, federal, White House, FBI, none of them. And yet the alternative media, the free press, has already basically completed the first half. Like we're already in the locker room at halftime on this deal and the government and the mainstream media is still in the warm up phase. So you could sit here and say, okay, that's just the pace now of the modern media. Or you could say, they've been covering this up from the outset. And so I don't really see how you can slice this any other way, Alex.

1:31:34 Well, Owen, again, I'm so sad for the dead children. I'm so sad for everything that's happened. But the bigger issue here is that the globalists are losing control of the narratives, just like you were just saying, just like you were just breaking down. And it doesn't matter what they do at this point, because the people know that they're being lied to. They understand that and we have the big audiences and we have the truth. You have FBI calling Kyle 10 minutes after it happens and saying it's this trans shooter, this is his name. And now it's all confirmed and we're afraid there's gonna be a cover up. That's the spirit we need because the system can't do this if people at the corporate level, government level, law enforcement level don't play ball. They have to get us to play along to do this.

1:32:32 And so Trump's getting briefed all day, he's getting all sorts of stuff. He doesn't know what's happening. There's some good in the government, some bad. That part doesn't matter. The point is, is that they can only get away with this stuff in the past if we weren't here. That's what they said in corporate documents, in government documents, in congressional documents. Jones keeps changing the narrative. Well, yeah, but just challenged narratives, they didn't make sense. Like Justice Schmoller, it looks fake, and it was fake. So the good news is they don't have the ball anymore. We have the initiative. We have to get the listeners and viewers to understand we have the initiative and create a domino effect of this mass awakening.

1:33:09 to blow the whistle and not go along with false narratives. So they've got a big problem on their hands. And as it comes out, this guy's a trans shooter, like most mass shooters now. They're gonna try to shut this down. Well, we're not gonna let it go away like Lake and Riley or others. We're gonna continue to hammer this and how they tried to cover it up. But undoubtedly you and Sarah Fenn are right. This is an attempted ongoing cover up. But we know the truth and it's not gonna go away. So just realize that sure, Patel, whatever, decide to soft roll stuff, they get blackmailed, whatever it is, they don't matter. They're getting ready to get rid of them. That's why they brought in the AG of Missouri, not cuz Bungino's looking, cuz they're getting ready to get rid of Patel. We're gonna go through this process when we finally take the government over of saying who's real, who isn't, who will go to war, who won't.

CHAPTER 16 / 38 Discussion

Digital Archiving, Defeating the Federal Scrub

Owen Shroyer discusses the rapid removal of the shooter's content from YouTube and the importance of independent journalists archiving evidence before it is scrubbed. He claims that the alternative media's ability to move faster than federal censors has exposed an ongoing cover-up. Shroyer argues that if the government does not divulge these details soon, their credibility will be permanently destroyed.

youtube· fbi· digital archive· alternative media· free press· censorship

1:37:46 The cover up is already on. The cover up started as soon as the shooter was dead and the feds were on the scene. Because now local news is reporting it, the images, the videos are all over the internet. And again folks, I mean, look, let's just say if it all comes true, this is gonna be one of the worst looks we've seen in response from the media, the mainstream media and our federal government. Then they're gonna have to explain why. They're gonna have to explain why. Now imagine

1:38:23 And isn't it so telling? Isn't this such a consistent narrative of where you're at right now? If you follow the mainstream news, or if you trust your government to keep you informed and updated, well guess what? You don't know anything. You don't have a damn clue. Whereas if you do your own research, if you find your own independent sources, if you go to the alternative media, if they're on X, you're already ahead of everyone else. Apparently, including the mainstream media and the feds, which I don't think anybody believes that, but you look at it face value, service level, that's supposedly the case. So if you follow the big legacy mainstream media, you follow the government updates, you literally know nothing. But if you're following the free press, the independent press, the alternative press, you have more information than they do. So if or when all of this is confirmed, this is gonna be a really bad look. They're gonna have to explain themselves.

1:39:33 Because this is ridiculous. And here's why it's even more ridiculous, and this is why this is going to get ugly, folks. The images and the videos associated with the alleged, we'll say now, until it's confirmed, I suppose, by our trusted, loving government, the images and videos are about as bad as it gets. It's the kind of stuff where you'd assume if you were doing this stuff, it's hard to believe that the feds or somebody wouldn't show up knocking on your door saying, hey, what's going on?

1:40:12 So we're talking about publicly available content, very disturbing stuff. Like if there's going to be a horror movie about a mass shooting, like this is the villain arc. Shooting videos about guns and killing people and writing weird stuff on the magazines and everything else. It's like it's all there. It's all out there. We've already archived the videos. They're all gone off YouTube now. So I mean, what does that tell you? Somebody knows, somebody gave the command. I mean, if we don't get that information, they probably scrubbed all those videos off the internet before anybody saw them. Think about that. Because what would you say guys? It was like minutes after you were able to archive all the stuff that it was shut down. It's about an hour ago. Yeah, it's about an hour ago. We're about to be rejoined by Kyle here. Kyle, so I'm just looking at this and hey, I'm willing

1:41:29 I'll just say in fairness in the gravity of the moment here, that I'm willing to give benefit of the doubt. Okay? But if they don't come out in the next press conference and start to divulge some of this information, then we're talking about one of the biggest cover-ups ever. Because not only is it something where they had the information and then they withheld it from the American people, Now how bad is the FBI gonna look when all these videos come out and they confirm this is the guy and it's like You're telling me. Oh, what are they? Are we gonna get the same thing? Oh, he was known to the FBI It's like well, when does that come out?

1:42:09 Right? I mean, this is looking really, really bad. And so I'm just sitting here and you put it so succinctly that no mainstream news networks have this, no government updates have this. Now it's all over the free press, the independent press, the alternative press. They tried to erase everything this individual posted online and they were hoping they could do that before anybody found out who it was. I mean, Kyle, I'm floored. I think we just caught one of the biggest cover-ups in real time. And they didn't think we could move rapidly enough to defeat them at their own game and now they've lost. And if they don't come out and clear this up by the end of the day, this is a horrific look.

CHAPTER 17 / 38 Discussion

Operation Bronze Griffin, FBI and Big Tech Collusion

Kyle Serafin explains "Operation Bronze Griffin," an FBI initiative to interface with Big Tech companies to flag content for removal based on "terms of service" violations. He notes that independent outlets like The Post Millennial and journalists like Andy Ngo are now bypassing these controls. Serafin describes the shooter's weapons, which were covered in disturbing inscriptions and memes.

operation bronze griffin· matt taibbi· twitter files· andy ngo· post millennial· big tech

1:42:56 Yeah, well, let's let's do a couple of things. Number one, you're talking about the FBI, which everybody thinks is a law enforcement agency. And I continue to tell you guys, I know it's not foreign to you. It's an intel agency that also does law enforcement. So that's part one. Part two, I shared a link with the producers there. But my friends at Catholic vote have been following this since 2000 and like May of 2020. So this was a BLM and Tifa movement aggression towards Catholic churches specifically. I think they have like almost 500 documented instances of going after this stuff. That's pretty wild. But let's go into something that's even like a little bit more broadly talking about the information thing. You'll notice that the folks know right away, everybody who's in part of the free press, everybody who wants to be somebody that's gonna sort of push back

1:43:37 against government narrative. They know they have to archive this stuff immediately. They have to go and find a secondary way of holding onto it. So they're gonna pull it down to a Google Drive. They're gonna send it onto the internet archives and the Wayback Machine. We're talking about people that realize what the implication of Bronze Griffin is. And that goes to the Twitter files and sort of the freer media and the free ability to do it. I'm gonna tell you real clearly, Owen, that breaking stories is not my jam. It's not what I do. I do commentary and I'm happy to break stories about my friends if it helps. And I'm happy to tell your story if it helps. And I'm happy to tell people background information that they didn't know and do analysis. But going out and ripping a story open,

1:44:16 It kind of makes me sick because I have to move quicker than I want to. And on this one in particular, the movement was if you don't share this, then it might not get out at all. Maybe it does, maybe it leaks out there. We're seeing Charlie Kirk is running it. We see Nick Sorter's running it. We see all the sort of free press over on X doing it. That's great. I see guys like Mr. Guns and Gear and Michael Henry, and he's out there archiving it and others. People who have sources are tapping it, but they knew where to look. But When the FBI has a vested interest in maintaining quiet, and by the FBI I'm just talking about, they were considered, remember what Matt Taibbi called them, the belly button of the intelligence agency.

1:44:53 Why would the media not care? The broad stream, the MSNBCs and the CBS and the ABC, why would they have a vested interest in what is being told as news? Don't you wanna break the story? You'd think that that's what people used to do. And I grew up in a news family where that was the goal, the first burn to it with accurate information wins. So maybe they couldn't validate it, but if their sources are not as good as mine, shame on them. What are they doing in this game? And I think that's what's happening. We talk about what happened in the Twitter files release where Elon Musk kind of opened the books to a couple of independent journalists. And what they showed was, is the FBI was the front runner for all the 17 Intel agencies behind them to come out there and interface. And they recruited sources that there was a project and it was called Operation Bronze Griffin or maybe the name of the source was called Bronze Griffin. So there was a vested interest by the Intel community to come in and control media,

1:45:46 Social media more broadly, they wanted people to be able to maintain information flow. And that's what totalitarians do. And that doesn't mean that the elected government is necessarily in charge. All of that stuff is highly relevant. And as you pointed out, and I'm saying the same thing, Our technology and our instinct now is really a big piece of it, is outrunning the narrative control mechanism. So that doesn't mean that they won't fire back. This is obviously something that we can be at in front or behind of at the moment right now. You're seeing even post-millennial, so Andy Ngo's outfit is out there doing it too. They're all running out and getting these stories and they're confirming it faster than any mainstream and anybody from the government agencies. They're not giving us the story

1:46:28 Maybe that's because they're government agencies and they need to wait for an official approved for press release and they've got all kinds of other things, but the truth is the truth. And we're seeing people cover it and we're seeing people not cover it. And we can only infer what that means, but it's a telling pattern because we've seen this movie before. And that's why the independents are out there archiving and grabbing. Everything I see about this guy sounds like he was connected to gamer culture. I think I was showing some stuff with you. I had former FBI agents reach out and share screen grabs of videos. And it's like, When you see someone writing things on an AR-15, when they're writing what, it's not demonic symbols, but they might as well be. I saw a kill Trump on one of his optics. I saw things saying 6 million is not enough. So reference to like the Holocaust, it sounds like. Ideology is all over the place. But it reminds me of every single, like you said, the villain arc of a mass shooter, like satanic mass shooter type person or someone that's possessed by some evil force.

1:47:25 Who the hell writes all over their guns? I've got probably close to 100 guns. I don't have written things on any of them except one of them. And that's what I'm saying. And then, you know, the backdrop that you're talking about, it's like, oh, the feds will have no problem targeting a Catholic church. The feds will have no problem targeting some pro-life Parents or targeting parents that don't want their kids to be you know taught the the progressive radical gender ideology in schools They have no problem targeting them, but it's like here's this guy posting videos and posting photos like I mean like it I mean mass shooter villain arc right I mean, it's all right there. They thought they had scrubbed off the internet before anybody found it We got it, and it's like but we're not monitoring him

CHAPTER 18 / 38 Discussion

The "Magic Fish Hook" Analogy, Independent Media Resilience

Owen Shroyer uses an analogy from the movie *Moana* to describe the precarious state of InfoWars, comparing the network to Maui's breaking "magic fish hook." He suggests that while the government tries to destroy individual platforms, a collective of independent voices has emerged to take their place. Kyle Serafin adds that the iconography on the shooter's weapons reveals a deeply disturbed psyche.

moana· maui· infowars· independent media· censorship· federal government

1:48:07 Like, we're not following up with him. And let me just say one more thing because it's so funny what you were saying there, because you mentioned how it was like a movie and I couldn't help it, it just went in my head. And I'm sure you've seen the movie Moana. You've got kids. You say, well, I'm not in the business of being the first to break the news. A lot of risk comes with that. A lot of risk comes with that. And let's just say nobody understands that risk probably more than Infowars here. And so I'm sitting here, it's like at the end of Moana, I'm sorry for people that haven't seen it. I guess everybody probably has. He has the magic fish hook, just magical fish hook, right? But it's about to break.

1:48:43 And he's like, I can't do this anymore because when my magic fish hook breaks, I'm out. I have no magic anymore. I'm no good to you. So I can't help you. I've got my fish hook is about to break. And it's like, InfoWars, they could shut us down any day. I don't talk about it a lot. But I mean, they're trying to Jones me right now. I'm in legal defense. They're politically trying to take everything I own. They're politically trying to do exactly to me what they've done to Jones. So I'm sitting up here like, Our magic fish hook is about to break, except this isn't a movie. And when they shut this place down, it's done. Or if they put me in prison forever, whatever the case is, it's like this isn't a movie. There's no magic fish hook coming back. It's over when they close the doors here. Now we can start a new thing.

1:49:31 But it's like now I look around and it's like, oh, everybody's got a magic fish hook. It's like, oh, we've got a bunch of different Maui's out here with the power, with the ability to strike back against the empire. Let's say for another movie analogy. And I guess that just because I mean, you understand how this works on the federal level. I really understand how it works in the media level. Now you've got experience in media. You understand it too. Folks, I'm telling you, I think that this is really, This is a paramount moment, I think, for the alternative press versus the mainstream media and what would have been, I think, a federal cover-up. And there's not only one person out there with the magical ability to defeat this. We have an entire collective now. And it's like you said, we have the right instincts.

1:50:21 We have the right movements, I guess good thing for people like you and the people that you know. We have the right people in the right places to make sure that we can run these things. But I mean, this is just incredible. I mean, it seems like we've got a pretty good idea here, to put it lightly. And no, nobody from the legacy media, no government reports. They don't want to touch. Are you guys watching that NBC, ABC, CBS? None of them are monitoring Fox. None of that. I've not seen it on any of the mainstream news. I haven't been monitoring it. So the thing, and I thought you were gonna go a different way with the fish hook, but there is something to be said about people have always, warriors have always decorated their weapons with certain iconography occasionally, and people put on their favorite scripture. In fact, if you guys had an ACOG and you were in the global war on terror, you know that they actually used to put biblical verses on all of the ACOGs, which were the optics on top of the AR-15s and the M4s that went into combat spaces, they're M4s, not AR-15s. People have always marked things with their, God guide my weapons, people would write messages on bombs and things like that.

1:51:21 when you see someone writing things that look pretty evil. And remind it like that's the Maui fish hook too, right? Wasn't he covered with all those sort of pagan symbols all over it too? And so people sort of tell you a lot about the way they think they're going into war. How interesting is that as well? Agreed, we have a collective of people that are now gathering it, but the only reason we have it is because they grabbed it before it got scrubbed. And because there is an intelligence community capability to go in and say, hey, by the way, Reddit, why don't you pull all the threads down? You should watch a new channel. I'm so glad you went there. We're up against the break. I don't know, are you with us the next segment? Sure. So I'm so glad you went there because that's what I was going to ask you next is what's that process like to get this stuff removed from the internet? Because I mean, I'm assuming that's federal involvement. Every guest I have had in studio in the last six months, I've given our medical grade USP methylene Bluetooth. I don't even tell them what it's going to do. I just say, here, take this, see what happens.

CHAPTER 19 / 38 Discussion

Patrick Byrne on Methylene Blue, Health and Focus

Patrick Byrne joins the studio to discuss his use of Ultra Methylene Blue for mental focus and energy. He compares the effect to a "fog lifting" without the jitters of caffeine. Alex Jones explains the science of methylene blue as an electron donor to mitochondria and mentions that Robert F. Kennedy Jr. also uses the supplement.

patrick byrne· methylene blue· rfk jr· mitochondria· atp· mental focus

1:52:13 Within 15 to 30 minutes, every guest says they've gotten energy like they've never experienced. Clarity, focus, it's like a fog has lifted. Their critical thinking goes to the next level. And that's what the science shows it does in ourselves. It's not a stimulant, but it has that effect because it electrochemically turns up the literal electrochemical electricity in the body. And so he was here a few months ago, didn't know what it was, known me for a long time, said sure he'll take it. He heard Kennedy talk about it, RFK Jr. He took it and it was so game changing. In the last few months he ran out of the bottle I gave him so he wanted more. The first thing he wanted was

1:52:48 to take some more before we even went live on air. That's how amazing this is. You want to do the plug and I appreciate this. I do. I came inside. Because you came in saying I want more methylene blue and then I looked over when you went on the air you'd already slurped some down. Your mouth was blue. I said you're popping smurf. So, Pat and Bernie. How much is the correct amount to put in? About that much? Yeah, I mean Kennedy does three droppers. This is really strong. You gave me some last time. I think you gave it on air. You totally feel the difference. I use the bottle you gave me. It's great. It totally makes it you can feel it. It just keeps your energy level up and plateaued without bonks. So I love it. I use the bottle you gave me and I came back to Austin just to pick up a...

1:53:26 Well, you can always get it at thealexionalshore.com. We'll certainly give you all you want. We also have the capsules, but we have the strongest medical grade. It's super good for you. It cleans out your mitochondria. Most people get instant energy, like 99% of people, but it's the workout. It's what does your skin, your libido. So you've been on it a few months. I just had that one bottle, but... And you're saying no letdown. That's the best part. It's not an amphetamine. It's not a speed, but it feels like that. It's throughout, I see RFKs on it, yeah. I just used up that bottle and so for a couple weeks I had this great energy but it's not speed, it's not caffeine, it's nothing like that. It's doing something else for you. So I really... Well it skips three levels of the oxygenation process in the cells. It's just next level. It's incredible. And they've suppressed it and my medical doctor six years ago said get on it and I got, said get USP grade. It didn't do anything.

1:54:15 And then our sponsor got this super strong one. I'm like, oh, let me try it. Whoa. I mean, it funds the operation books, but I'm telling you, if you haven't gotten our USP grade, real USP grade, ultramethylene blue, the auction store.com, you are missing out. It is so good for you. 99% of people, it's more than that. Like 400 people, maybe two or three didn't feel it. Some get totally freaked out that they're going crazy. So talk to your physician first, take a very low dose the first time you can't take it for an SSRIs and other things. It is amazing. TheAlexaStore.com. So, uh... Yeah, it's not psychosomatic. It's not psycho... You feel it. You feel it? Well, I didn't tell you what you're gonna feel. How would you... How fast did it kick in and what did you feel?

1:54:53 I felt it by the time the end of the show, by the time I got like last time I was here I felt it probably by the end of the show or by the time I got my car. You feel instant energy but without the jitteriness of caffeine and focus. What I feel, what I felt was focus, mental focus. It's probably like why you are as intense as you are Alex. It's made me more intense. Well I was taking full doses at first And then working out so hard that I had to go... You look jacked. Well, I've cut back. The point is I only take it every three days now because it's crazy. Everything we sell is working and is good. That's what I want. I mean, I'd be like a restaurant. They're gonna serve dog s*** to people. They're not gonna come back. But I mean, this thing is the most dramatic quick acting and it's good for you. It's just insane.

CHAPTER 20 / 38 Discussion

FBI Informants in Silicon Valley, Censorship Mechanisms

Kyle Serafin details how the FBI uses "confidential human informants" within Silicon Valley to facilitate censorship. He cites the House Judiciary Committee's report on FBI collusion with platforms like Reddit and the role of agents like Elvis Chan. Serafin argues that these tax-funded efforts to scrub public records are a direct threat to American liberty and the free press.

elvis chan· house judiciary committee· reddit· silicon valley· fourth amendment· censorship

1:55:36 And if I could just get a few more percentage of the audience to buy it, all our problems will be solved. Patrick Byrne was totally blown away by it, as every other guest we've given it to has been blown away. All right, I'm going to cut through the liner here. Kyle Serafin with us. He was just mentioning this before we went to the break, and it was where I was going to go next. So it just shows how we're kind of on the same page here. I'm assuming that considering all those videos were taken down off of at least YouTube, some people have archived them. I know we have. Now they're actually starting to make their way onto X and other platforms that are posting them.

1:56:25 To me that indicates one, there is some connection here to the case. I think that confirms there is some connection here. And then two, from your federal background, what is that process like? Somebody made the call to YouTube or how does that process go? Yeah, you don't have to speculate on what the process looks like. We can just talk about it real plainly because the House Judiciary Committee did a report on it November 4th of 2022 and they came forward and identified what the actual FBI op is called. It's called Operation Bronze Griffin and that involved confidential human informants that were in specific positions around big tech. So we got a lot of this stuff from the Twitter files when it came out and I'm kind of becoming this mini archive of all the crazy things. And if you don't have a memory to remember all the little dots that are connected and you don't have, you didn't live through it the way that I did where I'm so siloed into like specific types of information that you don't remember it. But

1:57:18 Bronze Griffin was the program where the FBI would interface with big tech companies and they would accomplish a goal. Now, one of the things we saw was like spreadsheets of tens of thousands of Americans names and they got censored on things like X and they got censored on parlor and they got censored on YouTube and they got censored on and other stuff like Facebook. And so all this stuff was all happening. And that was part of the big reveal, because we got to see even more of that when Matt Taibbi and some of the others came forward and showed the Twitter file, Schellenberger and whatnot. Those guys ended up testifying about it. I've had people that were in the meetings. Talking to Silicon Valley executives. They were in a meeting, let's say with the senior vice president from Reddit. And it's an FBI meeting with a guy named Elvis Chan who's been retired out, but the Trump administration let him retire. He didn't get kicked out. He didn't get fired. He got to walk away and keep his penchant. Maybe that's justified, maybe not. Maybe he should be prosecuted. And the thing that he would do is he would have them on there and he was like, look, the FBI can only investigate federal crimes

1:58:14 But we could always tell you if something looks like it violates your terms of service and then you guys could make a good decision on whether or not that violates your terms of service. So your tax dollars, very specifically for the mechanism, Owen, the tax dollars that you pay are funding a federal government that is tipping off These tech companies, hey, this thing that we don't like is also violating your terms of service and it's glorifying violence or it's saying things about weapons or it's using pictures or whatever. So yeah, these people got away with it and then they kind of tip their hand, don't they? Because these things disappear off the internet shortly after people start realizing that this person was involved in some sort of violence or the feds are involved. So that mechanism is well established and as far as I know has never been destroyed and we've never heard cash but they'll even talk about it.

1:58:56 But it is a threat to American liberty and it's also kind of a threat to the way the press is supposed to work. Why are we taking this stuff down when it's now public record? It doesn't need to go away. And as you said, we have the instinct right now in the sort of conglomerate of people that are in the new media and that are in the independent press are going, we got to go archive this stuff right away because otherwise we're not going to have access to this to the first hand material. There's nothing better than primary source. And so you can go find out what somebody said in their own words as long as you have it. You can go find out, they immediately lock it down. And it's obviously not going to be the guy who did it because he's dead from everything we're told. And that's how that, that's how we know that there's another hand involved. Isn't it funny too, where you take a case like mine when the feds are coming after me.

1:59:41 They weren't online erasing all my content. They didn't go online and I guess they did censor InfoWars, but that's not the point. Like they didn't go online and delete all my shows. They didn't go online and say, hey, make sure any video from Schreuer at January 6 is non-existent. Why would they? So why would they do that for this deal? And again, it all points into one direction, which is right out of the gates. It was, we got to cover this up. I don't know. I don't know how else to, to respond to this. I can't think of a better guy to respond to this as, as you and Alex, we got 30 seconds left till this break, Alex, get off here. And I appreciate calling your time or by watching right now, share this live feed. That's the real power. But I just want to put a bookend on this. So I was up in the hospital with family and stuff. And I was thinking about this. It really hit me. You guys have both already said it.

CHAPTER 21 / 38 Discussion

The Failure of Narrative Control, Minneapolis Shooting Aftermath

Alex Jones returns to emphasize that the attempt to cover up the Minneapolis shooter's identity has failed more quickly than any previous event. He credits the "spiritual instinct" of whistleblowers for leaking the truth to Kyle Serafin. Jones predicts that this failure will lead to a "huge scandal" and further discredit the institutional media.

minneapolis· trans terrorist· kyle serafin· narrative control· whistleblowers· holy spirit

2:00:35 But I'm always right when I intellectually and gut levels personally know something. Today was a bellwether event. bigger than Kyle, you know, his action getting all these FBI just reinstated. This was a big deal. I'm explaining, we come back in 60 seconds. And today it was hours before it happened and now it's everywhere. Alex rejoining us here in the third hour of the Alex Jones show. Owen Troyer in the Infowars studio, Kyle Serafin in his studios as well. And Alex, you're, you're, you're breaking down the conversation that we've been having today. And I mean, to me, it's just innate, I would say. It's just instinctual as we're sitting here watching this, we know moments. And to me, living through this right now, it's like, okay, no, we're in a big moment right now. We are, that's the point I wanted to make. And I'm never wrong when it's obvious.

2:01:39 But we've been through a long process of corporate media, mockingbird media, establishment media being discredited. But today is an absolute case point example microcosm of Kyle Serafin, the highly respected FBI whistleblower, who has all these good people in the government that want to be part of the truth. Instantly, within 20 minutes of this terrible attack on Catholic school kids at mass being murdered by this trans terrorist, calling Kyle and sending him the photo. the ID, the information saying we think the cover up is happening now. Now here we are four hours later and institutionally whoever's to blame, they're trying to cover it up again. So our instincts are confirmed. But the good news is, as you said, even though Kyle got the proof and we waited and broke it first, by the time we'd done it, everybody else with human intelligence had dug it all up even worse than what Kyle's FBI sources told him.

2:02:43 So this is bigger than these dead kids and they really matter, their parents matter, it's terrible. But the bigger story here is that we're not in the old ballgame where the system can just cover up and things have gotten way ahead of them. And they thought that all this surveillance systems and would control us, but instead the hole they dug for us, the Bible says, has been the pit they have fallen into. It is the example, and I keep bringing this up, not because he's been so accurate, that's why, but bigger than that, that's secondary, is because the example of a call seraphim losing his job, being demonized, grand jury trying to put him in prison, him not backing down now, his gun belts notched, not out of vengeance, but out of justice with dozens and dozens of globalist operatives in the Justice Department, FBI.

2:03:34 And as that credibility grows, he'll get more whistleblowers coming to him as they understand there's finally a place to tell the truth. And if they kill Carl Serafin, which I'm saying is gonna happen, or he dies by a bolt of lightning, or me, or you. Now people understand and just instantly report to the public that this was an attempt to cover up by the FBI insiders that are good people, is the very essence of the globalists being defeated. So that's what I wanted to basically get to here. What I wanted to say is that we have seen another attempted cover up, obviously by the corporate media, but obviously by higher level up in the FBI, that the instinct of the FBI agents on the

2:04:23 to tell the truth and to get this information out. And so it's gonna be that instinct to not think about what's gonna happen to you or no, no, just this is the right thing to do. I'm gonna tell the truth. I never want to tell the truth or I have a guest on this submitted. I don't think, well, what's gonna happen to me? I just go, it's the right thing to do. I believe in God, justice be done by the heavens fall. And it's that spiritual instinct to tell the truth and to do the right thing that evil can't stop. Because if good people simply follow their spiritual instincts, the Holy Spirit, if good people simply do the right thing,

2:05:09 We're always gonna have the jump on the bad guys. And so that's what I wanted to say here is this is an epic fail. The system to cover this up. It's gonna be a huge scandal. We need to find out who was behind it. And the truth is we're the media now. We are, I mean, we've been the media for a long time. So you guys said this hour one, I said it as well. But now it's confirmed that their narrative controls blown their face And what are they gonna do? And again, this is gonna cause more whistleblowers, more people to go to Ed Martin, more grand juries. The worm is turning, but the enemy's very dangerous right now. So who knows, who knows what they're gonna try to stage. Well, Alex, you just said something so key and I want you to kind of expand on this. So let me put this thought into your head to expand on.

CHAPTER 22 / 38 Discussion

Live Reporting vs. Censorship, The First Wave of Truth

Owen Shroyer and Alex Jones discuss why Big Tech platforms specifically target live-streaming accounts during breaking news events. They argue that controlling the "first wave" of information is essential for the government to establish a false narrative. Jones praises the accuracy of Kyle Serafin's "hunches," which he attributes to the integration of complex data and experience.

youtube· paul joseph watson· breaking news· narrative control· fbi· censorship

2:05:56 If you go back to the censorship when they hit you and they hit InfoWars and they took all of InfoWars satellites like my YouTube channel down. And then people were like confused at the time, you know, Paul Joseph Watson was with us, had a big YouTube channel and they didn't hit him. They're saying, oh, why is that? And I explained at the time, the reason is because they were targeting people that go live during breaking events. So InfoWar was always live, you'd go live, I'd fire up a live stream if there was breaking news at midnight, whatever. So they understood at that time, they said we have to go after people that are live reporting news in that first moment of truth, in that first stage. And that's why- You just hit it. That's why it's so important that when they came out and did these first couple press conferences and really with every passing minute, the cover up is successful. It's the first wave. It's the first wave of information that people are looking for. It's who's breaking the news first, who's gonna get the jump.

2:06:53 covered up. Now we're winning because we're out here showing the dead media, we're out here showing that there was a cover-up, but it's like no they already did it. They already did it. Everyone wanted to see the first press conference and they didn't announce it, they deleted all of the stuff, so but that's what it is. They don't want people in the arena at the time of the ballgame. When the game's over they'll say, oh yeah come on to the court have some slam dunks, but while the game is going on they don't want us here. You totally nailed it and that came out in the House Armed Services Committee hearings in 2018. We're like, we gotta shut Jones down, he keeps changing narratives. Yeah, and I'm almost always right. I'm not like creating a new narrative to be a jerk. I'm like, Smollett, you believe this story? You believe this story? I mean, it's just that we're common sense, people resonate with it. And you're absolutely right, they don't control the narrative. And today, they have had their ass shut down within hours, thanks to Kyle Serafin,

2:07:48 And thanks to the FBI agents that called him with the truth, which is an example of now the people that felt alone and didn't know whether they should do something. We need this everywhere. I tell my crew, so much of my crew has been great over the years. They're like, something bad happens, don't tell Alex. No, I promote people that tell me when something's bad happening. I wanna know about it. I want the truth, I want raw intel. I wanna know. If I'm getting something wrong, pop in my ear and tell me. I'm like, God, I got that wrong. So, because I have nothing to hide. Exactly. So this is transparency. This is sunshine. This is a big event, folks. We can't, they're going to try to shut this down, make it go away now, because it's come out as a trans shooter. No, we've got to really force this because it's another example of how they have no narrative control and it's disgusting. And maybe he called to speak to who he thinks is behind this. And then I asked him earlier and I was busy, but I'm going to get off here and listen now, go back to the hospital with my dad.

2:08:40 Ed Martin's got a long record. They were scared of him. They wouldn't confirm it. He's got a task force. They've got these grand juries open. They're going to try to put pressure on the grand juries. The deep state does that. The CIA has been caught spying on the Senate Intelligence Committee and others when they investigated them. So we know that's going to happen. I'm not saying indictments are going to happen now, but we finally have grand juries open, which never happened before. I know the Q folks said they did, but that was all imaginary. These are real politics. I want to get Sarbanes' overall view and his take from his sources on that, the reinstatement of these FBI agents, even though it's minimal. That just shows the power of the people. God bless you all. And you got even more coming up. And I just really am honored to work with both you guys and the viewers and listeners

2:09:20 Because being around people of integrity, and I like Carl Serafin years ago, and he was a whistleblower, I thought this guy's great. And he would make these statements, and I was like, how do you know that? How do you know this? How do you break that? And because I want to be the guy that knows stuff ahead of the horizon, and I am in other areas really good at that. But I gotta say, so I'm asking at an ass kissing contest, we need to recognize people that have that gift of integrating all the information. Good cops hold a hunch, it's not a hunch. The cerebral cortex is a narrow focus of the subconscious mind. with all the data you have. So wisdom is not just something, it's not you just got it ethereally, it's all the data, but it's so complex you can't even consciously understand it, but you are able to express it in a statement or a hunch. And so my broadcast is all about who's got the best hunches, who is the most accurate over time.

CHAPTER 23 / 38 Discussion

New York Post Confirmation, Robert Westman Manifesto

Kyle Serafin reads a *New York Post* headline confirming that the Minneapolis gunman was identified as Robert (Robin) Westman. The report mentions a manifesto showing a psychotic obsession with mass shooters and a layout of the church with a knife pointed at the altar. Serafin characterizes the attack as a clear hate crime against Christians.

new york post· robert westman· robin westman· manifesto· hate crime· minneapolis

2:10:08 Past behavior is the most indicative of future behavior and outcomes. And so Kyle, I just got to give it to you, brother. You're batting 1,000. So hopefully you'll spend some time telling us what else you think is coming next. I'm going to sign off now, take care of my family. God bless you all. They want to stop the errors. We're changing narratives with the truth. We're challenging lies. I can't do it without you. Please spread the live feed and the AlexListro.com. God bless you all. Isn't that something though? Isn't it about that? Like didn't Alex just hone in on it there? He just honed in on it. It's about family, he's gonna go do his family thing. That's the target. That's what it's like. That's the people that resist. There's that meme and Owen, you've probably seen it too. And it's like what we thought the resistance looks like and a bunch of buildings burning and it's like what the resistance really is. And it's like a dad and his wife and they're growing a garden. And they're just making themselves self-reliant and insulated against whatever needs to come their way. I'm reading news feeds right now while we're talking and while Alex was out there discussing it. The New York Post

2:11:06 is claiming in their headline that Minneapolis Catholic School gunman ID as Robin Westman, as we stated, Robert Westman previously, but it sounds like his mom helped him change his name. While possible manifesto shows psychotic obsession with mass shooters. So that's what it was. It's not anything else. It's not about religion and it's not about going after children that are at mass and it's not about people that are so young that they don't know the difference between what a man and a woman is or that they could be changed. And then you see in the pictures that even the New York Post was putting out there, this kid apparently in his book, which is full of either psychotic ramblings or demonic thoughts. It's got a layout of a church

2:11:50 I recognize it because I go to one that looks like that every day. It's got a bunch of pews in front of it. There's an altar up in the front. That's where the Eucharist is kept and he's got a freaking knife pointed into it. So this is a hate crime. And there's a reason why these things have been ignored, because it's convenient to ignore them. Right? Our previous DOJ ignored them for years and claimed that the reason that they couldn't go after people who had a certain pro-life bend or that they were Christians, it's because it was dark outside. That's what the previous excuse was. I'm very excited to find out what the excuse is for covering up on a narrative on this one. Maybe they'll get to it or not, but this is what a hate crime looks like. when somebody tells you that they're victim or they've they've they pointed out certain things and when you see this sort of demonic writing that's written all over there and maybe this guy was just mentally ill. Yeah, I will tell you what, there's all kinds of political writing, religious writing, I mean so clearly, yeah, clearly there's a political bent um and and a I guess you might say a lack of spiritual bent um when it comes to the motivating factors here but Kyle I look at this and I'm saying

2:12:51 At this point, obviously the feds cannot keep this information from the local police if that's what was going on in the beginning, which I suspect was. Now, I don't know how they don't come out. in a press conference. I mean, really within hours, I would say, I don't know. I don't know how they don't come out in a press conference now and put all this information out because this is like they've lost. They've lost. So, okay. You won round, you won the first round. Uh, you got a lead off home run on us because you pretended like you didn't know any of this in the first press conference. Um, but now we just got up to bat in our half of the inning and, and we just hit a grand slam.

2:13:28 So now we're seeing it. Look at look at Fox. Now Fox is putting it known by two names. Robin Westman and Robert Westman. Is that how you say it? Because yeah, again, I mean, a trans identified person like. It was seconds, it was seconds after I found out. It was the first thing they said, trans identified, went by name, Robert, quote, Robin Westman. This is hours ago, I was getting this, what is it now, 120? I'm just seeing that about 30 minutes ago, the local news is starting to get on it. And check this one, ready? I'll just read it to you, cuz I think I sent it to you too. Neighbors say that the home was occupied by a man, a woman, and an adult child. No further description, that's always really indicative. And KSTP identified them as the Westmans. Neighbors gave a variety of accounts and they said that they kept to themselves, that they were friendly. And one neighbor even described Robin Westman as a nonviolent kid. He's a nonviolent kid who was writing wildly violent things on his rifle as an adult kid.

2:14:20 And stabbing a picture of a church, the layout, the map of a church with a freaking knife. And so look, we don't always know what our neighbors are about inside. I don't know what my neighbors are doing next door. But it's nonviolent kid, that's what we got, and two names. We got two names and nonviolent. So that sounds great. Again, they're slowly gonna work their way back to this. Let me let me kind of just lay this out here. I don't Kyle I don't think I don't think any of this information gets out a if it's not for for you quite frankly B if it's not for now us on the show today. I don't think any of this information is out I don't think you're seeing this now Fox News is picking it up now and now it is officially mainstream news I don't know how they cover it up now I mean then they got to come out and do a press conference within hours to address this now otherwise it just looks horrible and

CHAPTER 24 / 38 Discussion

Victory for the Free Press, Institutional Cover-up Defeated

Owen Shroyer declares a "historical victory" for the independent press as Fox News and other mainstream outlets finally begin reporting the shooter's identity hours after InfoWars broke the story. He argues that without the pressure applied by Kyle Serafin and the alternative media, the federal government would have successfully suppressed the suspect's background.

fox news· free press· infowars· kyle serafin· minneapolis· cover-up

2:13:28 So now we're seeing it. Look at look at Fox. Now Fox is putting it known by two names. Robin Westman and Robert Westman. Is that how you say it? Because yeah, again, I mean, a trans identified person like. It was seconds, it was seconds after I found out. It was the first thing they said, trans identified, went by name, Robert, quote, Robin Westman. This is hours ago, I was getting this, what is it now, 120? I'm just seeing that about 30 minutes ago, the local news is starting to get on it. And check this one, ready? I'll just read it to you, cuz I think I sent it to you too. Neighbors say that the home was occupied by a man, a woman, and an adult child. No further description, that's always really indicative. And KSTP identified them as the Westmans. Neighbors gave a variety of accounts and they said that they kept to themselves, that they were friendly. And one neighbor even described Robin Westman as a nonviolent kid. He's a nonviolent kid who was writing wildly violent things on his rifle as an adult kid.

2:14:20 And stabbing a picture of a church, the layout, the map of a church with a freaking knife. And so look, we don't always know what our neighbors are about inside. I don't know what my neighbors are doing next door. But it's nonviolent kid, that's what we got, and two names. We got two names and nonviolent. So that sounds great. Again, they're slowly gonna work their way back to this. Let me let me kind of just lay this out here. I don't Kyle I don't think I don't think any of this information gets out a if it's not for for you quite frankly B if it's not for now us on the show today. I don't think any of this information is out I don't think you're seeing this now Fox News is picking it up now and now it is officially mainstream news I don't know how they cover it up now I mean then they got to come out and do a press conference within hours to address this now otherwise it just looks horrible and

2:15:12 If we did not do this, they would have covered this up. If we did not do this, because that's what I'm saying. I've been through a bunch of different moments like this and everyone has every single one has different timelines and length of periods and rules and stuff. But I mean, so it's like sometimes okay, we come out, we break the news that they made COVID in a bio lab. And then it's like years later, they admit it's true. Or, okay, we were right on the immediately boots on the ground when they stole the 2020 election and then it was like, okay, now everybody in the Republican Party says it. So there's different timelines and ways that this stuff works out. I'm sitting here, I'm telling you all these folks, I've worked at InfoWars with Alex Jones, okay? I've been through this stuff. I think I've probably been on air at InfoWars longer than anybody not named Alex Jones. I'm telling you, in the last four hours,

2:15:56 You just, we just went through a historical moment when it comes to free press versus institutional cover-up. I'll say it like that. I think that's a good simple way to put it. We just, you just witnessed a paramount moment. I felt it an hour ago when I said it, now it's totally confirmed. We just went through a paramount moment where the institutional cover-up has been beaten by free independent press. We, I mean, unbelievable stuff. God bless your sources. God bless Kyle Serafin. God bless Infowars. Unbelievable victory today.

CHAPTER 25 / 38 Discussion

FBI Entrapment Tactics, Vulnerable Targets and Budgeting

Kyle Serafin discusses the FBI's history of "setting up" vulnerable or mentally ill individuals to inflate terrorism statistics and secure larger budgets. He references the movie *Police State* and a specific case in Knoxville involving a J6 defendant. Serafin argues that the Bureau often allows dangerous individuals to "cook" longer to build more significant cases, sometimes resulting in preventable violence.

fbi· entrapment· police state· counterterrorism· j6· budget funding

2:16:38 I mean, this is I I'm I'm I'm I'm stunned, Kyle. I can't even believe we just hit back to back grand slams in the, in an inning. And now we're going back out onto the mound and it's like, what are you going to do? Yeah. It doesn't feel like a win knowing that there's kids who didn't survive this. And Yeah, like I said, I'm vacillating right now. It's good that we're pushing forward. It's good that people in local law enforcement realize that there's a problem. It's good that people in the feds are looking around going, God, what's going on here? We can't have this thing hidden and there can't be a narrative run. And we can't be reporting that they were nice people and no one knew what happened and that there wasn't either some sort of psychoactive drugs involved or there wasn't mental illness or whatever the hell it was. Who the hell does this with these guns? I'm looking at these guns on the screen right now.

2:17:25 I'm telling you, I own nicer and far more weapon systems than this. This is not a healthy person. If you see this sign in somebody that's doing this stuff, You got a real problem in your hands and that person doesn't need to be owning weapons. And we got to police our own as gun owners and we got to make sure like I want everybody to be able to own a firearm. And I also don't want anybody who's mentally ill to be anywhere around them. And so I'm watching all this stuff and how did these videos stay up? You can't even pick up a gun on a freaking YouTube video in most cases, like a lot of these gun channels get dropped. arms and magazines that maybe you can hide in a drawer or something. I mean, this is like the mom goes in there to change laundry. How do you not see that? You can't not see that. That'd be like my wife saying she doesn't know that I have guns and go into my gun room. And all this stuff, and like I said, and then I'm conflicted on the other side of it. It's just, it's sick. It's sick because

2:18:18 There's little kids at mass. That is not an accidental target. There's a lot of mental illness that you can see on some of this stuff. Where's your God? I love you and I hate you and all these other kind of things that we would see and you'd imagine in people. I've dealt with mental illness and I was a paramedic. So I picked people up off the streets that talked to themselves. I spent time in psych wards working as a paramedic and even here in Austin. I used to work at the hospital where we'd have the psych ED and they'd come in and And they were nuts and people who jump out of the car, have their own kids in it still and ignore it. People do all kinds of wild things when their minds are not right, but nobody noticed this? Nobody noticed any of this sickness? And the other real scary thing is-. But they knew to get it down right afterwards, Kyle. They knew get that thing down immediately afterwards. That's right. Here's the real scary thing. This is big speculation time, but it's a possibility. When the FBI goes after and sets these things up, and they did, and they've set up a lot of people. And it's not just left or right. It's not a political ideology for the FBI. It's about funding.

2:19:11 Okay, so I want to be real clear. They don't set up like Republicans and they don't set up Democrats. They set up people who are easy victims so that they can go and juke their terrorist stats because they need to be able to have reasons to exist. That's what the FBI does. That's what government does. That's what a self-licking ice cream cone does. It exists not for the purpose, but it exists so that it continues to exist. And the thing that I've been pointing out, I did it with Dan Bongino and I did it with Dinesh D'Souza in their movie Police State. We tried to point out that the FBI finds the most vulnerable and they find the most mentally ill and poor decision makers who have really, really bad ideas. And they go out there and instead of capturing those people or reporting them to a local health authority where they go and they get some help, they wanna continue this.

2:19:52 I just did a five hour interview yesterday and it's very poignant in my mind. The FBI in Knoxville arrested a J6er who was legitimately violent. He got violent with law enforcement on January 6th and then he had violent instincts afterwards. And he wrote a targeted kill list of 35 people in the FBI. And I can understand why you'd be mad, but you can't do that. And then he recruited people to go kill FBI employees, many of whom were unarmed and didn't do anything. Their name was just in his file. And then he went out and set out to kill them. And the FBI found out about it, and they didn't scoop him up and violate him on his parole right away. And they didn't violate him on his controlled release from the judge. They let him cook a little longer. You gotta get more people involved in this stuff. The longer that you have a federal law enforcement agency that is going to be incentivized to create more lawbreaking material and to have more people in it,

2:20:36 then you are going to have bad things happen because some of these people are going to escape control and they're not going to be perfectly contained. And look at all this crazy stuff you're seeing him writing and all of his weapon systems are all decorated with all kinds of like all of whatever nutty things are going on in his head. You cannot control crazy people and to think that you can is dangerous. The Bureau benefits by these people existing and the only people that are like in danger are the potential victims. And you can't tell me that you're an agency that's out there to stop crime and that you're gonna prevent terrorism when you are in reality encouraging some people so that you can get them for your statistical accomplishments and your budget. And you're gonna not be able to know anyone's either way. If a terrorist attack happens, the FBI wins. We need a bigger budget. We have to make sure this never happens again. If a terrorist attack doesn't happen, look what we stopped. We prevented it. They always get more budget. That's what's going on. That's the vested interest these people have.

2:21:26 Well, and God forbid you you plant it to a left-wing ideology, which is what we're seeing right here. And see there's where this is why the cover-up angle is so important. And by the way, I mean if you're writing out a blueprint of a church and writing, where's your God now on a magazine? I don't think you need any further proof that this was a targeted preconceived attack. I think that that's pretty much an open-shut case, but should you connect those pieces? No, this is why the cover-up angle is so important though. Cuz you say, well, what are they covering it up? What are they covering up? Why? What is the motivating factor? So clearly, there is still an institutional bent to protect the left wing sexual ideology and to protect the big pharmaceutical companies that it's almost a guarantee this killer was on. Go ahead. Hold on, hold on, we gotta go to break. My dad was gonna come out of surgery, he's not out yet, so I came back in the parking lot, I've been listening on the phone. I'm gonna just say this to get off here right now, and I'm gonna stop for the day.

CHAPTER 26 / 38 Discussion

Transgender Ideology in Minnesota, Political Motivation

Alex Jones and Owen Shroyer discuss the political climate in Minnesota, citing Governor Tim Walz's support for transgender policies. They suggest that local and federal authorities had a vested interest in covering up the shooter's identity to protect the "trans kids" political agenda. Jones calls for an investigation into which FBI officials were responsible for the initial information blackout.

tim walz· minneapolis· transgender· hate crime· fbi· cover-up

2:20:36 then you are going to have bad things happen because some of these people are going to escape control and they're not going to be perfectly contained. And look at all this crazy stuff you're seeing him writing and all of his weapon systems are all decorated with all kinds of like all of whatever nutty things are going on in his head. You cannot control crazy people and to think that you can is dangerous. The Bureau benefits by these people existing and the only people that are like in danger are the potential victims. And you can't tell me that you're an agency that's out there to stop crime and that you're gonna prevent terrorism when you are in reality encouraging some people so that you can get them for your statistical accomplishments and your budget. And you're gonna not be able to know anyone's either way. If a terrorist attack happens, the FBI wins. We need a bigger budget. We have to make sure this never happens again. If a terrorist attack doesn't happen, look what we stopped. We prevented it. They always get more budget. That's what's going on. That's the vested interest these people have.

2:21:26 Well, and God forbid you you plant it to a left-wing ideology, which is what we're seeing right here. And see there's where this is why the cover-up angle is so important. And by the way, I mean if you're writing out a blueprint of a church and writing, where's your God now on a magazine? I don't think you need any further proof that this was a targeted preconceived attack. I think that that's pretty much an open-shut case, but should you connect those pieces? No, this is why the cover-up angle is so important though. Cuz you say, well, what are they covering it up? What are they covering up? Why? What is the motivating factor? So clearly, there is still an institutional bent to protect the left wing sexual ideology and to protect the big pharmaceutical companies that it's almost a guarantee this killer was on. Go ahead. Hold on, hold on, we gotta go to break. My dad was gonna come out of surgery, he's not out yet, so I came back in the parking lot, I've been listening on the phone. I'm gonna just say this to get off here right now, and I'm gonna stop for the day.

2:22:21 They failed the cover up today faster than ever. As Owen said earlier, he used to fight him for years on a cover up. We always win. Now we win in hours thanks to Kyle Saravanan's sources. But I was going to ask Kyle when I call back in. What about leftist groups in the FBI provocateuring this for a long history? He kind of answered that, but the big answer is their instant cover-up of this just failed. I don't think Trump's involved, but we got to ask who was in place the FBI that did this today. Go to break. I know Kyle's got to go. He can finish up with that topic. But here's the biggest issue. Their cover-up failed in hours today. That has got to scare the system. This is historic, but we do have to investigate. And yeah, it's a victory for the truth. So sad for the kids, two separate things. But they are failing instantly because of human intelligence and all the billions of people that are out there tracking all this. And stuff is just flooding out now that people were able to grab, as Kyle said, before they deleted it. And now it's gonna blow up ten times bigger because of the Streisand effect. This is huge, God bless you both, you're gonna break.

2:23:22 Just thank everybody, and we'll be right back. Sharing live feed of Rob Shum's right now. You were just telling me that you had a brain disease. And you... What did you do to fix it? I found this guy, he's a functional medicine guy, and he got me on methylene blue. And that instantly stopped everything. I'd take it. Yeah. I take it every day as well. And RFK Jr. told me about it. Yeah, man, it's fantastic. And so this guy's injecting, in 1890, injects these rats with it and then does an autopsy on these things. And their brain, the brainstem, every single nerve is blue. So he discovered this methylene blue has an affinity for neuronal tissue. So he says, well, it's sucking into neurons and working in the body. So he started putting it in humans.

2:24:11 And we found out it's an MAOI, which helps with depression and anxiety and all kinds of life stress and stuff. It is so incredible that it acts as an electron donor to mitochondria, especially your neuronal mitochondria. So it helps you produce more ATP, and it helps you get rid of this stuff called reactive oxygen species. So you have an oxygen molecule, it should have two hydrogens on it. And like your body's job is to convert stuff into water so you can pee it out. So if you get an oxygen molecule, it's got four, five, one, it's a reactive oxygen, which we call free radicals. So methylene blue goes in there and balances a lot of those things out in your brain and your nervous system.

2:24:54 It is a miracle and it's been proven for a hundred years. It's one of the most well-proven drugs out there. The strongest medical grade, methylene blue, and this is what I'm on. Total mitochondria cleaning, next level energy. This is amazing. And you want to know what I'm on? Iris C. moss, Shilajit. This right here, look at that. That is power. I'm on intermittent fasting. I'm eating at three o'clock today. And I stopped eating crap food, stopped drinking. That's what I'm on right there, baby. So the question obviously now is why would they cover up these details that are now everywhere? And Kyle is gonna get into the insider agency angle of this. But I've just been, stuff has been shared with me. I've been reposting some of it on my ex account in the break.

CHAPTER 27 / 38 Discussion

Radical Transgender Activism, FBI Diversity Training

Kyle Serafin describes the "radical ideology" within the FBI, including mandatory LGBTQIA+ diversity training and the hiring of transgender agents. He discusses the case of whistleblower Zach Schaftstall, who was allegedly retaliated against for refusing to execute an unlawful search on Patriot Front protesters. Serafin claims the FBI headquarters now prioritizes pride flags over the American flag.

lgbtqia+· fbi· diversity and inclusion· patriot front· zach schaftstall· pronouns

2:25:51 You have the mayor of Minneapolis with his protect trans kids agenda, where he's done multiple speeches about that. You have the lieutenant governor of Minnesota who goes around wearing shirts that say protect trans kids that have knives on them. Meaning like, yeah, you don't like our trans kids, we'll commit violence against you. Which by the way, anybody who follows my work knows I've gone to a lot of these events here locally in Austin. And these are violent people. Okay, the people that the protect the protect trans kids Groups are the most violent people that you'll ever see when you go to a protest And I mean you could say well, you know Antifa or Black Lives Matter is more violent. Well, okay Maybe they do more destruction, but no the trans kids groups. They they go after you They go after you personally and so think about think about the ideology of this

2:26:53 They promote to the youth to be trans, then they tell the youth that everybody's out trying to get you. And so then the interpretation for them is, as they literally put violent imagery on the protect trans kids propaganda knives, so it's, oh, I've got to go out and I've got to protect myself. I'm going to go kill people. So now I can see Kyle why Minnesota or Minneapolis would have a vested interest into covering this up. I could understand now why they would be running laps to try to make sure that this story never gets out. Of course, you know, Tim Walz is no stranger to trans kids either. He's famous for putting tampons in the

2:27:35 Boys bathroom. So, I mean, trans kids is a huge thing in Minnesota. So I can understand, okay, why would, why would locally they want to run a cover up here? Oh, well, it's their ideology that potentially caused this whole thing. Okay. So what about the insider agency angle, Kyle? Yeah, so I mean, the FBI has a bunch of people that are captured on this ideology that they're a protected class and you have to be extra nice. I mean, there's a person that I sort of joke took my job named Mac Montana, who is a relatively attractive looking female who dresses like a man wears a pin that says he him on it and uses the male's bathroom and carries a gun despite the mental illness in there. So we have transgender FBI agents that are getting hired.

2:28:16 Not really clear yet whether Mac Montana was actually doing the FBI's male or female fitness test. That's always a question. But we've shown, if people follow me over on X will see it. I mean, I've been sharing this for years that there is radical ideology. There was this office called diversity and inclusion, and they made a bureau wide announcement. You guys are showing it on the screen right now. The FBI adopted the specifics of LGBTQIA plus And they've expanded from the previous thing where they said LGBTQ, they had to add the IA and the plus on the acronym because there are people that are legitimately captured. I was told very credibly by people who worked in the Hoover building, because I got a number of folks that are all over the place. And they said that the human resources department of the FBI at FBI headquarters

2:28:58 did not have an American flag on the wall, but it did have a gay pride and a transgender pride flag on the wall. That should blow the minds of the people that are listening and paying their tax dollars into it because that's a political ideology. That's not just like, oh, I just care about people. Like if you had some sort of very specific identifier, it's all one type of person, as you said. And a lot of those people are really aggressive. We just had a whistleblower reinstated as of yesterday, and I'm gonna take a little bit of credit for putting pressure on Cash Patel for that and making it happen. Zach Schaftstall was a whistleblower who came forward and said the FBI is putting the like an unlawful search on the guys at Patriot Front. And if nobody's ever heard the story of Patriot Front and what happened in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, it's worth listening to it. I did like a three hour interview with Zach. He's highly credible. He was very well respected by people I knew before I ever heard of him and told me about him before I ever met him or talked to him. But essentially it goes like this. The FBI got involved with the Patriot Front guys in Coeur d'Alene,

2:29:55 By the way, it's my argument that they're not a fed op because despite the fact that they look exactly like guys at Quantico and they march around and they do weird stuff. They don't do any violence, which is not helpful to the FBI's mission. The FBI actually had a stand down on them nationwide and said don't go after them. But they did the worst thing you can do. They went and they protested in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho at a diversity pride event where they had this assistant United States attorney with a transgender child They went and protested at it. And so she saw to it that not only were those guys arrested by the local PD, but all their phones were confiscated. They were all handed over to the FBI. And then they were like, here, search this. And the guy said, well, there's no predicate. There's no Fourth Amendment violation here. We don't have any, or rather, there's no probable cause making it an unlawful search under the Fourth Amendment. We're not gonna do it. We're not gonna do a search warrant for their stuff.

2:30:40 And so that's a crime against the LGBTQIA thing because obviously these people were bad people because they didn't like gays or lesbians or transgenders or whatever the hell the story was. So you actually ended up having FBI, DOJ, Maine get together, the Hoover building kind of conglomerate and the main justice coming out of DC pushed down on Coeur d'Alene, Idaho of all places and said you must execute a search warrant on those things. And this guy said, no, I'm not gonna do it. That violates my oath. And then And they removed him from his job. And so that's why he hasn't had a paycheck for the last couple years. He was removed in, I think, officially just over a year ago and was in limbo. And what do they do? They put a female supervisor from the FBI who was a lesbian and she went up there and she said, undisputably, I'm gonna go sign off on this search warrant, even though she doesn't normally do search warrants because she's a supervisor.

2:31:27 And all of this came down to this ideology. I started exposing this and if you guys look, I sent your folks an article from the Daily Caller. And this goes back to the beginning of when I was doing this, cuz I remember sending this information over and I was staying with my folks out in Arizona. So this goes back to December of 2022. This is like a month, maybe two months after I started talking to Dan Bongino publicly. an LGBT guidance, they actually put out a training and I was actually issued this training and I remember it and I refuse to do it. It got so poorly reviewed by regular FBI personnel that they actually pulled it off what's called Virtual Academy, which is this like government wide training program. You log in and you do this like death by PowerPoint kind of thing. And they actually canceled it.

2:32:06 It was put out in 2021. I very distinctly remember getting it. I was in the middle of moving and I had my child, my third child was born. So I just kind of ignored it and I told my boss I wasn't going to do it. And then they just made it go away. It went from being mandatory gender ideology insanity where like, how do you use pronouns? And what's the right way to talk to people that don't know what to do with their penis and all those other kinds of crazy stuff. And then you were supposed to go out there and like filled in and then they have a survey at the end of every one of them. And the survey was like one stars don't recommend this is garbage, stop pushing ideology. And the FBI quietly went like. So I never had a deficiency in my failure to accomplish that training, but I managed to get a bunch of the slides. I actually have all the slides and we shared it with members of Congress. These people still work at the FBI, the people who came up with the diversity and inclusion garbage, the people that work in those offices, they've been moved around. And Cash Patel is not running it, neither is Dan Bongino. They don't even know where to look because they weren't in the FBI when this stuff went down. And they alienated me and the guys that were trying to expose this and show. So real clearly-.

CHAPTER 28 / 38 Discussion

Narrative Crafting, Selective Evidence and "Impotent Rage"

The hosts discuss how the FBI crafts narratives by selectively leaking evidence, such as focusing on "right-wing" symbols while hiding "kill Trump" inscriptions. Owen Shroyer describes the "impotent rage" he observes at transgender activist events, where protesters frequently assault him. He argues that adults are grooming children to be the violent outlets for their own political hatred.

fbi· narrative control· trans kids· violence· indoctrination· censorship

2:33:06 There's no reason. It's absurd. I mean, everybody thought it was absurd. That's the kind of garbage you go to freshman year college. They make you sit through two hours of PowerPoints and even then it's childish, but it's like the feds. Yeah, how do you become an ally for your LGBT plus colleagues? That's a job of yours if you're an FBI agent that carries a gun and swore your allegiance to the Constitution. So just for the sake of time here, I want to speed this up a little bit because so there's the insider angle of why would there be an interest in covering this up from the federal level? Just like I just said, well, here's why they would want to cover it up at the local level. Now, Kyle, let's get into kind of- Give me one second to add to that. Let me punch in real quickly. Because if you have censorship and you get to scrub the internet before anybody gets it, nobody gets those videos, then what can they leak? Very selective stuff. The one that says 6 million was enough. So now it's a guy who hates the Jews, right? So now it's right wing violence. You get one and you hide the video or the picture that says kill Donald Trump. And you just have the one that shows something else like love and hate or where's your God or whatever. And it's like, this was a nihilistic person. You can craft the narrative with

2:34:07 That guy's got all kinds of ideologies running through his head, clearly. The fact that he chose to go out of church and shoot at little kids tells us a lot about what he ended up doing. But you could take somebody who's mentally, oh, there was a bunch of stuff in Russian on those magazines, you remember that? And there's a bunch of writing in Russian. You could be like, oh, like he's a pro-Russian, anti-Ukraine a-hole. Like he's obviously like a Trump. You could frame it however you want if you control the information and you got someone that looks that crazy that's put all this stuff out there. Now we can look on the plain thing of it and see where he went. and who he attacked and how he did it. And we can say, well, you know, he may have had a bunch of conflicting ideas in his head, but the devil wins. And he went after a church and he went after babies.

2:34:45 Okay, but if you're able to craft the narrative where you control whether people can see those videos or not, then maybe you only show the pictures of him where he had shorter hair. And you don't ever show the fact that he had grown his hair out, was wearing earrings and identified as Robin. And nobody ever has to say that. So the narrative control looks like you can punch in on the part of the picture you want to show and not the whole thing. And I think that's the big piece here. And the FBI has a vested interest, at least some people do, to push that around. And we mentioned the local angle of it as well. So that's how you get a narrative craft if you control the information early. And they blew it on this one. Or maybe they would have told us, hey, let's give them the benefit that maybe they were just waiting to tell us all. I mean, that's what they do, right? They wanna be transparent with us. Yeah, just like with the Vegas shooting. It's my experience. It's so trustworthy. That is such a striking point, so well said. So now I kinda wanna get into the environment surrounding this. And I don't know if you kinda touched on it at the federal level. There might be more to expand on there. But imagine you have somebody that has

2:35:44 has bad intentions and then you give them the cover to do so. Like here's another example, I can't help it with the TV analogies, they're just in my head today. But there's an episode of South Park where Eric Cartman wants to go around running his mouth, saying a bunch of anti-Semitic stuff, foul stuff. And so he says he has Tourette's. So it's like, I've got Tourette's, so now I can go out and I can say all of this stuff and it's okay cuz I've got the excuse. That's what this trans, a lot of this trans youth movement and maybe even the whole trans movement, but specifically the trans kids movement. A lot of that is you have bad people that have bad intentions and they mask all of it with, oh, it's about trans kids. It's about protecting trans kids. And I've seen it firsthand where honestly, when I go out and I cover this stuff, Black Lives Matter protesters, they don't really target me. They try to destroy property.

2:36:37 Even Antifa, even violent Antifa people usually are either just targeting law enforcement or property. Now I've had a couple of run-ins with Antifa, but that's because I put myself in that position. But they're usually targeting either law enforcement or actual physical buildings property. You go out to one of these trans kids events, no, they're targeting you. They're targeting you. I get assaulted almost every time I go to cover one of these trans kids events. And so it hits me, it's like, no, This is just their excuse. This is just their excuse. And I'm not saying this about this individual's parents, we don't know enough. But I've seen it. I've seen these parents that indoctrinate their kids. They have hate in their heart. They hate you. They want to hurt you. They want you to see in pain. They get joy out of it. I've seen it the way that they treat me.

2:37:25 And the whole trans umbrella or the protect trans kids, it's like, no, that's their Tourette's excuse so that they can say whatever they want and not get in trouble. No, they hate you. I would even, I'm to the point now, it's like. Why would you put a knife on a shirt to protect trans kids? It's almost like they want them to go out and shoot a church. It's almost like they are using these poor kids because they don't want to do the violence themselves. So they're grooming and indoctrinating these kids into this world of hate that these adults are harboring. And then it's like, yeah, the Christians hate you, the conservatives hate you, Trump hates you. These are the people that hate you. By the way, here's some pharmaceutical pills. And by the way, here's the Protect Trans Youth shirts with all the knives on it cuz you gotta protect yourself. So it's almost like, honestly, I think it's that diabolical. But of course it is, they chop up little boys and girls' private parts. Of course, they're out there chopping up little boys and girls like it's a science experiment. This is a diabolical thing, and

2:38:27 Now if anything positive can come of this, I mean, I can't even imagine what these parents are going through but it's like okay now We understand the cover-up. We're not gonna do this anymore. The entire trans ideology is an issue Specifically protect trans kids movement. This is a violent movement And I am to the point now where I'm saying, I'm almost convinced they're doing this intentionally. I'm almost convinced they're using these children to be an outlet for their own hate, an outlet for their own proclivities to violence that they won't do themselves. So now they're using the kids to do it. Let me throw a couple of real personal moments on there. My wife and I just had a moment where my in-laws are very left leaning and they're nice people.

CHAPTER 29 / 38 Discussion

Generational Conflict, Radicalization of Youth

Kyle Serafin compares the radicalization of transgender youth to the recruitment of young suicide bombers in extremist movements. He argues that pumping young people with cross-sex hormones and telling them they face an existential threat creates a dangerous psychological state. Shroyer points to "satanic" performances by pop stars like Sam Smith and Lady Gaga as cultural drivers of this youth radicalization.

suicide bombers· radicalization· cross-sex hormones· satanic· sam smith· lady gaga

2:37:25 And the whole trans umbrella or the protect trans kids, it's like, no, that's their Tourette's excuse so that they can say whatever they want and not get in trouble. No, they hate you. I would even, I'm to the point now, it's like. Why would you put a knife on a shirt to protect trans kids? It's almost like they want them to go out and shoot a church. It's almost like they are using these poor kids because they don't want to do the violence themselves. So they're grooming and indoctrinating these kids into this world of hate that these adults are harboring. And then it's like, yeah, the Christians hate you, the conservatives hate you, Trump hates you. These are the people that hate you. By the way, here's some pharmaceutical pills. And by the way, here's the Protect Trans Youth shirts with all the knives on it cuz you gotta protect yourself. So it's almost like, honestly, I think it's that diabolical. But of course it is, they chop up little boys and girls' private parts. Of course, they're out there chopping up little boys and girls like it's a science experiment. This is a diabolical thing, and

2:38:27 Now if anything positive can come of this, I mean, I can't even imagine what these parents are going through but it's like okay now We understand the cover-up. We're not gonna do this anymore. The entire trans ideology is an issue Specifically protect trans kids movement. This is a violent movement And I am to the point now where I'm saying, I'm almost convinced they're doing this intentionally. I'm almost convinced they're using these children to be an outlet for their own hate, an outlet for their own proclivities to violence that they won't do themselves. So now they're using the kids to do it. Let me throw a couple of real personal moments on there. My wife and I just had a moment where my in-laws are very left leaning and they're nice people.

2:39:16 I would help them if they need anything. And we got an email saying that she betrayed their family because we got married. And we've been married for 12 years. And we got four children. And so they have grandchildren only because of me and my wife getting together and getting married. But that was a betrayal. And the statement went something like, You can betray somebody can feel betrayed without actual betrayal have having happened and you're like, okay, that doesn't make any sense That's completely logical. How on earth would you do that? There is a that's a hating position like that's that's a that's a really evil thing to drop on your child

2:39:54 And in the same way that you were just talking about angry older people, but I call it impotent rage. Is that a fair assessment when you see these people that are screaming in your face, you're out in the park, it's impotent rage. They don't have any ability to do anything about it. You're like a red blooded male. You got regular musculature. Your ability to take a punch is probably fine. They're not gonna be able to knock you over Owen. And so it's impotent. And it's the same thing that I see in some of the really extreme rhetoric on some of the other cases that I used to work. I used to work counterterrorism cases and you'd find it in radical imams and Islam. You ever seen a suicide bomber under the age of 30?

2:40:31 Yeah, just think about that. Have you ever seen anybody decide that they're going to go strap bombs themselves and be older? It just doesn't happen nearly as frequently. Maybe it's starting to happen now. But the people that really kind of believe in this are young people. Maybe their brain isn't fully developed and they want to go be part of it. And think about you as a younger person. You're like, I want to get into the fight. And as you get older, you're like, how do I make the fight in my favor? How do I get smarter about it? There's an idea of old dogs and young dogs. And the young dogs run a lot and the old dogs show up where the bad guy is going to be because they're not do it. There is a value in having people that understand how to do things. But you can always get young guys amped up to go do something aggressive and violent. And imagine now you're putting cross-sex hormones into them and you tell them that somebody is coming for their life and they have to stand up there. I know a lot more people under the age of 25 that are willing to quote unquote die for a cause than I know people over 30 that have children that want to go do the same thing. It's not quite the same person.

2:41:22 And so, taking advantage of these young people and pushing these ideas in their brain and acting like there is some sort of existential threat, like you wanna delete trans people. I get that crap in my DMs all the time. You probably do too. It's like, you're trying to deny their existence. Like, no, I'm just saying they're mentally ill. And like, I think that if you have a penis, you're a boy. you should probably not race against girls. And if you race against my girls, like my girls aren't gonna be in the race. It's real simple. That's not me deleting you. And by the way, I think God loves you and you should go to church. I wanna help you. And I want you to find your life to be better. Because right now what you're going down through is a really, really ugly thing. And so there's an awful lot of impotent rage that manifests itself in hate. And if impotent rage means that I can't strike out against people that are my own age and my own physical abilities level, kids are a really good target for that, because kids can't fight back. Or how about Catholic school teachers and youth ministers that are sitting at mass and they're trying to pray. And they're trying to learn how to be good citizens. And they're trying to learn how to be loving Christians in the way that their parents sent them and paid extra money for them to go because they didn't want to be indoctrinated in this garbage.

2:42:25 A lot of this stuff, it's really far reaching and it's really, really disgusting. And when you see it, and you're around it, and you've been around this sort of that spitting bile, the way that people react to pro-life preachers who will just go and set up a thing and just say, God loves babies and we love babies too. And they want to come in there and they're so spitting mad that they feel like they're emboldened to do physical violence against you. It's like, What would drive someone to do that outside of otherworldly possession? And it looks demonic. I mean, there's countless YouTube channels that actually make money on showing people how wild and how angry. And whether it's driven by drugs or whether it's driven by something from the outside that's grabbed a hold of these people and they've opened themselves up to it. We start playing with that game. I think a lot of people in America are playing

2:43:11 a really dangerous game on that. Go look at some of their performances. I mean, it's it's like literally straight out of hell. I mean they do straight up Yeah, tell us looking with that guy. That's Sam Smith did one real recently will not X lady Gaga So, I mean these are big voices for trans youth and trans people and then you go watch their performances It's it's it's literally satanic. I mean, it's literally like here's hell for you. So it's like Of course the impressionable youth is gonna be affected by that. I

CHAPTER 30 / 38 Discussion

History of Transgender Ideology, University Indoctrination

Owen Shroyer recounts his 2008 freshman orientation at the University of Missouri, where he was first introduced to transgender ideology. Kyle Serafin notes that the government has been surveilling parents who oppose this curriculum in schools. They argue that the entire education system has been repurposed to push a radical gender agenda on children before their brains are fully developed.

university of missouri· mizzou· transgender· homeschooling· fbi· indoctrination

2:43:54 I mean, how many people under the age of 22 are in college, they're 18 to 22 years old, and they go start studying one thing. And if you were to talk to him 10 years later, you find out. How many people have a college degree and can look and say, yeah, I knew what I wanted to do when I was 18, when I was 19, when I was 20. We all are living experience. If you're over the age of 30, you know that you didn't know what you were doing at 18. I know one person in my entire life who knew what he wanted to do when he was the age of some of these people that wanna transition their kids. I know one, he wanted to be a doctor from the time he was a little kid. You know what, now he's 43 years old and he's a doctor. And so he took that path, that's very uncommon. Now it used to be a thing that people had purpose and they grew up in a family, a family of plumbers and you became a plumber. And there's a million Hollywood stories about how they wanted to be a dancer really. But at the end of the day, most of us don't know what the hell is going on until our brain is fully developed. So taking advantage of young kids and pumping in this. The other piece of it is, you could just as easily see them trying to blame this on video games.

2:44:48 Cuz this guy has all these sort of gamer memes on his guns and stuff like that. And has some Doom references and some of the things that are written down in the writings and so on. And there's some meme type Russian that's apparently used in some gaming communities. I had to go dig into it cuz it's not my thing. If you have the information, you can craft the narrative. And if you have the whole story, you're like, this is clearly someone who's not well, and change his name from Robert to Robin. and grew his hair out, and now thinks he's something else. What other things does he think? Where did that come from? And if his mom was the one who helped him change his name, was she responsible for this? Is he on their health insurance? They said he was in his early 20s and the stuff that I'm reading, all this, it makes you sick because it means that it could have probably been avoided. And a lot of this is to blame at the culture that we have right now, which is tolerant of. It's not even just tolerant, it's celebrated on a lot of levels.

2:45:42 And then the minute that somebody does something violent, it's like, it's not because of these things that we've done that no one's ever done in history before. No one's ever experienced a pushing of this ideology on people that are too young to be able to embrace any of it. I think I found a crazy thing. I found a news clipping from years ago and it was from some other, I think it was like a story of when I was in the Air Force. I think it was in 2000, maybe it was before that, 2007 or something. I don't know. I found this old news clipping that my wife and I had in some box. And it was the first reference I'd ever seen about transgender ideology. And it goes back to 07. And I'd never heard about it probably until maybe less than 10 years ago. So this stuff started really, really, really small.

2:46:20 And now it's mainstream. You can literally go talk to any person who has their kids in a Catholic school or in a generally speaking Christian school, private schools, and you ask them why or why do you homeschool? It's cuz I don't want my kids indoctrinated with this ideology. Remember, the FBI sent people to surveil parents. Now we know that. This was the first whistleblower disclosure I did. I just was telling a guy about it the other day. 2021 at the end of 2021, the first year of the Biden administration, they were out there protecting the National Association of School Boards from these ugly, violent, mean, bigoted parents that wanted to have their kids not indoctrinated in the same kind of stuff we're talking about today. So the government has been behind this stuff for a long time too. They've had people that bought into it, hook, line and sinker, including the entire last administration. It's even worse than that. The government schools

2:47:07 You mentioned 2007, I went to, I believe my freshman orientation at Mizzou at the time in 2008. Yeah, that would have been 2008. I don't even know if I'd ever seen a transgender person before. I couldn't say. I said, well, oh, guess what? First day of freshman orientation and you're going to the spot where they meet and group you up, the first person there who's introducing you and organizing the whole thing, guess what? It's a trans person. It's a trans person. You think that's a coincidence? So, so even... Totally coincidental. There's so many of them, Owen. So all the universities bought into it too. And, and it was probably right at that time. And they said, okay, let's put a trans person as the first person, these freshmen people, because everybody knows you go to college, you get a little bit more freedom. You start to experiment with some stuff, whatever. You're a little more open-minded.

2:47:52 So they're like, hey, hit him with the trans person day one. Let's get them into this thing day one, let them know this is going on day one. I had other people say that they had a similar experience when they stepped into a big university for the first time. So it's like the whole thing has been an agenda. But okay, let's put that aside. Think about how insane this is. This is just happening in our country. You have leftist attorneys and judges that are putting violent criminals back out on the streets. They know what they're doing, they're doing that. You have these radical leftists that are taking impressionable and maybe sometimes they do have some mental problems, these children, and they're pushing them into this violent ideology. And then what are they saying on the back end? They're saying you aren't allowed to have a gun. They're saying you need to be disarmed. You need to turn your guns in. We need this gun legislation. I mean, hello, what is two plus two equal?

2:48:47 They would run that on this as like, oh, it was an assault weapon and it was a short barreled shotgun with no grip because he had a little pistol, like a pistol grip shotgun there. So those are gonna be the real problems. The real problem is the gun, is the tool. It's not the guy that wrote all the crazy shit all over his gun in a way that you can come to my house, you can come today if you wanna come see him, Owen, you could see it. And I've got boxes after boxes of guns and none of them have any of that kind of stuff, because I'm not mentally ill. So we can't talk about the mental ill thing and there's obviously a big financial incentive to continue giving those pills out. Part of it is the laziness of America. Everybody wants a pill to solve everything. Oh, you're fat? Okay, fine. Take a pill. Oh, you're crazy? We'll fix you with these pills. A lot of this research is really, really short. And it turns out I married somebody in the mental health field. My wife has a master's in this. And all the stuff they used to think was true, they almost always find out that it's not. So yeah, I'm sure this is a totally healthy, regular person. It's the gun's fault and the high-capacity magazine he's holding there that has 60 rounds in it. So disarm yourself while we put more violent people on the streets and at your church. Okay.

CHAPTER 31 / 38 Discussion

Israel-Gaza Conflict, Global Public Opinion Shift

Owen Shroyer reports on a Pew Research Center survey showing that 62% of people in 24 countries view Israel negatively. He critiques Benjamin Netanyahu's PR strategy regarding the targeting of hospitals and journalists in Gaza. Shroyer also mentions that Tony Blair and Jared Kushner are briefing Donald Trump on post-war plans for the region.

israel· gaza· netanyahu· pew research center· tony blair· jared kushner

2:54:03 when you shop at thealexjonesstore.com and tonight is the last night to take advantage of a free $10 to spend at the store. No minimum spend, no coupon needed. $10 for anybody who's shopping at the store. That will end tonight, thealexjonesstore.com. All right, before I do leave the desk, let me just pepper some of this news here as much as I can in four minutes. So, Israel has basically, they can't cover up what they've done anymore as far as blowing up all the hospitals and killing all the journalists. So now they're just coming out in these press statements and Netanyahu doing all the PR now. Oh no, no, no, there are no journalists, there's only terrorists. And there are no hospitals, they're all Hamas headquarters.

2:54:46 So now they've just decided they're not even going to apologize anymore, they're not even going to pretend like they're not killing innocent people. They're just going to say, yeah, everyone's a terrorist and every building is a Hamas headquarters, so it's getting really bad. And then because of this, this survey just came out of the Pew Research Center. And it's so frustrating that you can't have honest conversations. Really, it's hard with a lot of political issues, but specifically with the Israel issue. And that's because just so much propaganda has surrounded it. But it's like you can't even have an honest conversation and then, oh, you're an anti-Semite. So I did a report on this some months ago, and I said, look,

2:55:32 If this trend continues, you're going to see Israel become less popular than ever or more unpopular, however you want to put it. And they try to posture me like I'm some anti-this or anti-that. No, I'm just a truth teller. And I said, if you really care about Israel, then you need to be calling out what the IDF and Netanyahu is doing. So that's not an anti-Israel thing. If you're pro-Israel, you should be calling it out. And that's why you have all these Israelis and now the rabbis joining them protesting in the streets every day because they've realized we've put ourselves in a very bad position now. And so the Pew Research Center just came out with it and they did surveys in 24 countries. So from the 24 countries, the average 62%

2:56:22 view Israel negatively, 29% view Israel positively. Okay? And that's only going one direction. When you come out and start killing kids and journalists and everything and the whole world sees it, it's only going one direction. And then you come out and say, well, actually there are no kids, they're all terrorists. Oh, there are no journalists, they're all terrorists. Oh, there are no hospitals, they're all Hamas headquarters. Nobody's believing you. So right now it's, you know, 62-29. This continues another month it'll be 65 unfavorable. Another year it'll be 75 unfavorable.

2:57:00 But they just don't care and why don't they care? Because they have an agenda. And the agenda is for Israel to take the Gaza Strip and other land. So everything else is just an excuse to do that. But if they come out and they say, hey, we're gonna go take this land and then kill 100,000 people doing it. Well, obviously that's a bad look. So you play the victim, you stand down on October 7th, you say everybody's a terrorist and then you think maybe you can kind of get away with it. Hopefully, I don't know if it's gonna be so good. Tony Blair and Jared Kushner to brief Trump on Gaza post-war plans. So Looks like Israel's gonna be going in next month in September and they're already running their plans to turn it into whatever they're gonna turn it into. And they're gonna move the Palestinians to Europe and they're gonna try to move them here, they already have. So that's what you get. And then what do you get? Europe gets flooded with Muslims and Africans, America gets flooded with this. All these war refugees because of Israel's wars

2:57:58 And then we get the refugees flooded into Western countries, and then it gets so bad because you're told that you have to tolerate it. So then you have the Muslim rape gangs and the culture and everything else, and then little girls have to protect themselves with knives and hatchets because it's so bad. All right, so I covered one story. I didn't get to Trump targeting George Soros. I didn't get to the election news and everything else. But you know what? It was a big story today, and it was a good reason why we focused on it. But if you want to stop this, doing the same thing over and over again is not going to get the desired results. I'll continue to cover whatever I believe the most accurate truthful news is no matter what the effect is on me. And then you simply decide whether or not you want to back

2:58:47 The undisputed OG organization of the last 31 years in the fight against the globalists. We had great success within three years of me getting on here on AXS TV, the local radio that syndicated. It's all hand of God on it, working through you. You're working with the foreign banks and the military industrial complex. This is all their idea. You can follow people around, you can harass people, you can back up your banks, your buddies. But a revolution of peaceful information is coming, and when it comes time, you people are going to be brought to punishment. You're lying to the public. It's disgusting. This is reality. Truth is stranger than fiction. And I know my best work is ahead. And I know the tribulations we've been put through are part of God's larger plan. And I've learned a lot. And I've learned to be beyond humble and understand this is a sacred mission. But you're part of your own destiny and your own sacred mission. You better know good and evil's real. And you better know the devil's second biggest trick was convincing the world he didn't exist. His biggest trick is convincing the world good doesn't exist. Because I know

2:59:44 And I'm a fallen creature, and I'm a sinner, and I have my struggles. But I love God, and I love justice, and I love truth. The globalists are the cheaters, the liars, the insecure ones. And it's time for us to recognize evil, recognize cheating, recognize fraud, and oppose it no matter who it's coming out of. Attack the sin. What alternate universe is this? What planet did I wake up in? Attack the lies. And you, Congressman Deutch, are a liar and a fraud. And that's why I've been the most attacked. All hell broke loose when I was talking about him and you're the only person at that time to ever get footage out. When I made films about the USS Liberty, all hell broke loose. When I made films about 9-11 making an inside job, instantly, all hell broke loose. I was put under national security investigation with the CIA and FBI directed, you find dirt and you put that guy in prison. They also want to hear from Alex Jones. He was subpoenaed by the bipartisan House committee investigating Israel.

3:00:39 But because the country and the grand juries were completely corrupt, because of the grace of God, not because of anything I did, I've been protected. That's why I have no fear, only the fear of failure, only the anger that I'm not stronger. And that's why I ask you to support us in your word of mouth, your prayer and financially, because I am only as strong as you make me. I am a weapon of truth and war against tyranny in your hands to wield me. My only desire is to overthrow tyranny. My only desire is to unlock minds. I've got one that can see. My only desire is to empower humanity. My only desire is to seek the truth, because God is truth. I have been tempted by the devil himself, and only by the Holy Spirit have refused it.

CHAPTER 32 / 38 Discussion

Bill Jasper on Democratic Socialists of America (DSA)

Bill Jasper, Senior Editor of *The New American*, guest hosts to discuss the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA). He links the organization to the Socialist International and the recent 2025 national convention in Chicago. Jasper argues that the DSA is part of a global movement toward a Marxist-Leninist world government, supported by far-left members of Congress.

bill jasper· dsa· socialist international· chicago· marxism· world government

3:01:40 Welcome back to the Alex Jones show and as you know Alex is not here right now. Maybe he'll be popping in live via remote So I'm Bill Jasper senior editor of the New American magazine, and it's my pleasure to be here my honor to be here today taking Over the show for for a while here. I'm the senior editor of the New American magazine at the new American comm and and a little bit different persona than you're used to. Alex is high octane jet fuel, rocket fuel. I'm a little lower octane but we'll try to hold forth here. We've got a number of things to discuss today. You've just been going over the

3:02:30 Minnesota shooting in Minneapolis. We're not going to be covering that this hour. I just got in here, I've been traveling so haven't been able to follow that story closely. But there are many other things happening around the world and we're going to be discussing a lot of them. One of the things that is popping up now all over the country is an issue that has been pretty much off the radar screen for most Americans. And that is an organization called the Democratic Socialists of America, DSA. You are familiar, of course, with the Mamdani

3:03:12 Phenomenon in New York where we have a socialist Marxist communist running for mayor. He's being given the front line right now He's been we're told he's the front runner and now we have the Mamdani of Minneapolis Mamdani of the Midwest with Omar Fateh another Democratic Socialist of America, so Who are the DSA and why should we be concerned about them? Socialists we are told are just a little bit more liberal Democrats than your usual Democrats. The DSA, Democratic Socialists of America, are a very important adjunct to the global socialist movement and the global communist movement. So we're going to go into that a bit today.

3:04:07 Today, very important because Mamdani and Fateh are not the only DSA candidates running all across the country. There are dozens, perhaps hundreds, who are doing this. So we'll look at the Democratic Socialists of America. In fact, if we can bring that up, they just had their convention, their national convention for 2025 in Chicago. Chicago is the center of a lot of the communist and socialist activities for the past century. And in fact, after New York City, Chicago has been the primary

3:04:51 central locus of communist socialist activity, the Communist Party. Here you see their website for the DSA convention. And we had most of the far left members of Congress participating in that. And the Democratic Socialists of America, the DSA, are an adjunct of the Socialist International. And maybe we can bring that up on screen. Socialist International has been for

3:05:31 Pretty much the past century, although they've been reformulated a couple of times in 1980, 81, they took their present form, the Democratic Socialists or the Socialist Internationale. They are a worldwide communist socialist movement including over a hundred parties socialist and communist parties Marxist Leninist parties from over 170 countries that's most of the countries of the world in include parties that are ruling parties that is parties that are

3:06:10 who occupy the presidency or prime ministership of many of these countries. And whose ruling parties in their parliaments are carrying forward this socialist revolution. So when we look at what's happening today in the United States, with the DSA, it is very similar to, it's a follow-up to what we've seen in England, in the UK and throughout much of Europe where the socialist international member parties have essentially been ruling much of Europe for most of the past century.

3:06:57 The labor parties, the social democratic parties, the social labor parties are members of the Socialist International. And that is part of the big move that we see on the left side of the political spectrum toward world government. And very interestingly, this is what we in at the New American and at the John Birch Society. The New American is published by the John Birch Society. I've recently been named president of the John Birch Society. We've been pointing out for many years, for decades, that what we are seeing across the world in this push for world government is a global power grab. This is our special

CHAPTER 33 / 38 Discussion

UN Agenda 2030, Global Governance and Sovereignty

Bill Jasper discusses the strategic partnership between the World Economic Forum and the United Nations to implement "global governance." He highlights the UN's Agenda 2030 and the push for digital identification and internet control. Jasper advocates for the "Defund the UN" Act in Congress to protect American sovereignty from globalist bureaucracies.

united nations· agenda 2030· world economic forum· klaus schwab· antonio guterres· sovereignty

3:07:49 80th anniversary of the United Nations issue that came out in July. A very important issue, we cover the whole spectrum of what the UN has been involved in, in pushing forward to world government. Essential to this is the work of the Socialist Internationale. We are having our leadership conference coming up here in Pennsylvania next month. And General Flynn, Catherine Austin Fitz, Alex Newman, Pastor Trujillo, myself and many others are going to be there. Go to jbs.org and find out about that. One of the things that we have been

3:08:36 very much involved in exposing that gets almost no coverage in the United States. Most conservative publications and platforms don't talk about it, is that the Socialist International, which is headquartered in London, along with the Fabian Socialist Society, which spawned it, that they work very closely with the uber capitalists of the World Economic Forum. This is where the globalists, the communists and the socialists are integrated together. They're all pushing for world government. It's in the World Economic Forum's program. It's in the Socialist International program. And of course, it's in the United Nations. And the World Economic Forum

3:09:28 and the Socialist International both have strategic partnerships with the United Nations. So, in fact, we show in this particular issue of the New American Magazine the actual signing of the strategic partnership between World Economic Forum head at that time, Klaus Schwab, who has since been replaced by Larry Fink of BlackRock as the head of World Economic Forum. Signing this strategic agreement with United Nations General Secretary Antonio Guterres. So they have actually formally

3:10:09 signed their agreement that we knew just from observation was a fact going back many years. So for over three decades, I was our correspondent at the United Nations in New York and at UN summits around the world. And at these summits, it was very clear as it was and is at the headquarters in New York City, that the Socialist International, the World Economic Forum, these two apparently disparate and opposing forces of capitalism, socialism, were working together hand in glove. And particularly, as a number of the articles that we've pointed out, there's one that we have at the

3:11:00 New America called the grasp of the socialist international. And it goes into detail, we show how top leaders of the United Nations in all of the various committees and in their summits are members of the socialist international. And that the UN hosts the socialist international at its headquarters in New York. So we see that both the World Economic Forum, the Socialist International, they believe in using crises. And in fact, the World Economic Forum, Klaus Schwab says we are facing poly-crises, meaning many crises. And so we have to use these to build global governance, which they mean world government.

3:11:53 They have tried to soften the impact of world government. A lot of people are a little bit worried about that. They see how our own government is really not conducive to freedom, to individual liberty. And a world government, particularly with a collection of global kleptocrats, criminals, mass murderers. That's what we have represented at the United Nations, that a world government under this kind of a regime would be totally against everything that we believe in. So for the past decades, the talk of world government has subsided as they have changed their rhetoric to say global governance.

3:12:47 It's the same thing, and that is being exposed. And lots of folks are beginning to realize that this is not the way to go. And in fact, we now have legislation introduced into Congress to defund the United Nations, to actually cut off all US funding to the United Nations. Do you think we should be paying more of our taxes to the UN kleptocrats and mass murders and terrorist regimes? Most Americans do not think so. We have been led for the last 80 years to finance this organization because of the enormous propaganda, the thousands, literally thousands of NGOs

3:13:45 As you saw in the USAID program exposed under DOJ, we've been exposing this for years. We didn't have all the access to the records that DOJ did with and does. But what was in the public domain of what we were able to get from members of Congress made it very clear that there were literally thousands of NGOs in the United Nations that we're receiving our tax dollars to push for all of these radical agenda items, including all of these supposed poly crises, these many crises, whether it's climate change, global warming, acid rain, LGBT rights, etc., pro-abortion. All of these things are being financed

3:14:41 With our tax dollars, of course many of you who watch this program know that that is true. We've been seeing that for many years. But the Doge expose finally showed millions more Americans where our money was going through USAID and the State Department. And not only those, just about every agency of the federal government has been for the past several decades putting our dollars into this whole army of NGOs. As I've been at UN conferences in recent years, there have been a few more conservative pro-American journalists there. Most of the years that I've covered the United Nations,

CHAPTER 34 / 38 Discussion

UN Arms Trade Treaty, Second Amendment Threats

Bill Jasper critiques the UN Arms Trade Treaty signed by John Kerry in 2013, calling it an attempt to bypass the Second Amendment. He also notes that corporations like Samsung are now pre-loading UN Agenda 2030 propaganda onto smartphones. Jasper argues that these globalist initiatives are designed to create a monopoly of force for the state.

john kerry· arms trade treaty· united nations· gun control· second amendment· samsung

3:15:33 All of the media representatives there were simply rip and read whatever the press release came from the UN office. Very little critical pushback on anything the UN was promoting and almost Entirely being a rah-rah section for the UN and every step along the way towards global control, globalizing every facet of our lives. In our special issue on The New American, for instance, we talk about gun control. Today with the Minnesota shooting, again, we're having massive calls for gun control that

3:16:15 The way to deal with situations like this is to confiscate all the guns. Well, our former Secretary of State John Kerry, member of the Council on Foreign Relations, he's a total globalist. He signed in 2013 the UN Arms Trade Treaty, the ATT, formerly known as the Small Arms Treaty. And that is a declaration of support for the UN prohibition on gun ownership, transfer of guns, and not only firearms, small arms, which are protected under our Second Amendment, but ammunition as well. And all of this has to be controlled by the state so that the state, the government, has a monopoly of force.

3:17:06 And we've seen over and over again in the past century and in all of human history, that as soon as people are disarmed, they become the victims of their own government. And so the Obama administration, through the personage of John Kerry, signed on to this. And we're told in the media that that means that the US is a signatory to this, that It has now treaty powers over us. That's not true. The president, even if the president signed it, that doesn't make it a law. And certainly when the Secretary of State signs it, it does not. So this was not an act of legislation, as my good colleague Joe Wolverton, our constitutional expert says, this was an act of treason.

3:18:05 to attempt to sign away our rights guaranteed in our constitution to the United Nations. So we've been covering the UN of course for many years and a lot of Americans still do not realize why this is important. Just about everything in your life is under assault from this push toward globalization of law, globalization of government. So just in the past year, again, most Americans haven't even heard, we had a summit of the future. This was last September. The summit of the future took place. We covered it in the New American. Alex Newman, who has been our

3:18:57 Main correspondent on the United Nations has been going to these summits and covering them. Some very important things have come out of this, which is the globalization, the global takeover of the internet, of cybersecurity, of pushing for digital identification. All of these things are coming out of the UN right now. Most of them are connected to our, as we pointed out, the UN's Agenda 2030, or their global sustainable development goals. And I even had on my telephone, I was amazed, on my telephone, all of a sudden my Samsung Android

3:19:57 came up with a UN jingle and promoting the 2030 agenda. It's got a little song to it and it's promoting here. I did not request it, but when I updated my phone... Samsung apparently has an agreement with the UN and they put it on all of our phones. We're seeing that all across the board in your kids' schools, in their curriculum, in your billboards as you drive around the country, in your advertisements from all your major corporations. We are supporters of the 2030 agenda.

CHAPTER 35 / 38 Discussion

Fabian Socialist Society, History of Gradualism

Bill Jasper provides a historical overview of the Fabian Socialist Society, founded in London in 1884. He explains their strategy of "permeation" and gradualism to achieve a socialist state, which inspired George Orwell's *1984*. Jasper notes that the Fabian Society remains influential in the UK's Labor Party and the global socialist movement.

fabian society· george orwell· 1984· sidney webb· london· marxism

3:24:32 Last segment we talked primarily about the United Nations. We'll probably get back to that. We also talked about the Socialist International and the Democratic Socialists of America, the DSA. Really important topics that largely censored here in the United States. At least we're being told now that the DSA and the socialism is increasing in popularity. And we're seeing these dynamic candidates such as Mamdani and Fateh, of course, following on the AOC and the squad.

3:25:18 that they show that there is a growing interest and a popularity with socialism. And undoubtedly that's true to a certain extent. Our children have been for decades now marinated in socialist, Marxist-Leninist propaganda and indoctrination in their schools, in popular culture. And at the same time, free market individualism, capitalism have been demonized. And so, yes, there is some truth to this. But what we're not being told is that the crucial understanding of what's going on

3:26:01 with this socialist revival or generation. And that is that our major media, the globalist media, is the handmaid to all of this and they are promoting this because they want to see a monopoly of power. That's what socialism, that's what communism is where Virtually all facets of our lives are controlled by government. And of course, government is controlled by individuals. And those individuals who are in control of a monopolistic government can then do as they wish. And so we have both the globalist corporatists of the World Economic Forum

3:26:49 and the socialists, many of which are openly declared Marxist-Leninist communists, of the Socialist International working hand in hand. And that's very plain to see when you go to the World Economic Forum's conferences in Davos or when they hold them in Beijing or in other cities in communist China. Where you see this is the most open convergence of the uber capitalists, the Ray Dalios, the Warren Buffets, the Rockefeller types in communist countries, holding forth with Xi Jinping and the top members of the CCP and other

3:27:41 communist regimes, working together to build a socialist super state, their world government. We see it again at the annual World Government Summits, which are held in the United Arab Emirates every year. So One of the things that we're not told about the DSA and the Mamdami of New York or the Mamdami of Minneapolis is this connection to the Socialist Internationale. And the Socialist Internationale's connection to

3:28:21 its parent group, which is the Fabian Socialist Society. So the Fabian Society has been around since 1884. And you might recall that George Orwell wrote a book called 1984, where English socialism, Ingsoc, had taken over. In fact, socialism had taken over the whole world. We have this totalitarian Orwellian big brother state. That date of 1984 was not just something that he pulled out of thin air. It relates to the fact that the Fabian socialists led by Sidney and Beatrice Webb, George Bernard Shaw,

3:29:13 HG Wells These were the intellectuals of England in 1884 when they founded the Fabian Society They figured that it would take a hundred years to accomplish this ergo 1984 and in George Orwell's vision, that dystopian vision, he was showing this. 1984, it would be eventuated and this would be the dreary totalitarian system that it would end up with. George Orwell, Eric Blair, was a socialist himself and he never quite shook that romantic notion that many socialists have

3:30:03 of socialism, but he definitely turned against what he saw going on with the Fabian socialists in England. Who, by the way, were very friendly to Vladimir Lenin and the Bolsheviks. They supported the Bolshevik revolution, the communist revolution. They went over Beatrice's Sidney Webb. went over to the Soviet Union glorified it as did their acolytes here in the United States John Dewey and and other Socialists here in the United States. So the the Fabian socialists are still very active today after more than a more than a hundred years 150 years and in fact the Fabian socialists just recently over the last several

CHAPTER 36 / 38 Discussion

UN Global Food Hub, Control of Essential Resources

Bill Jasper discusses the World Economic Forum's "global food hub" in the Netherlands and its impact on independent farmers. He presents a UN map showing the extensive footprint of agencies like the IMF and World Bank in the developing world. Jasper argues that these organizations use taxpayer money to buy the compliance of foreign dictators and consolidate control over essential resources.

world economic forum· netherlands· food supply· unesco· imf· world bank

3:30:54 have been boasting about all of their people who are in power in the current government of the UK. So if you go back, all of the labor governments of the past half century have been Fabian socialists. And they admit that and boast about that on the Fabian socialist website. Unfortunately, many of the so-called conservatives, the Tories in England, are also Fabian socialists and probably the best

3:31:38 book surveying the the Fabian socialists we published Western islands published in the 1960s the Fabian freeway by Rose Martin and we are republishing that it will be out soon and It's very timely reprinting because most people do not realize the full extent to which we have been permeated and penetrated. That is a famous term that the webs brought out. They said we have to penetrate and permeate the culture and the government with socialist thought, getting their people into positions of power. And they've very patiently done this with the help of all the various globalist corporatists who have been

3:32:36 behind them every step of the way and covering for them to make sure that folks like you and me don't find out about it. And fortunately, there have been truth tellers out there for the last, well, for instance, just in my experience with the John Birch Society. For over 60 years, the society has been exposing these things, and that is why it was attacked so viciously. We see what happened with Trump and all of the MAGA movement, how viciously they've been attacked by the press. You see it with regard to Alex Jones and anyone

3:33:19 Who stands up to the New World Order as they call it. You're viciously attacked as a conspiracy theorist, a racist, a anti-Semite, anything to try and smear and detract from you. So the people who have been exposing this in England, in Europe, and here in the United States have been subjected to that for all of these many decades. Right now there is an explosion of awareness in Europe. Unfortunately, the awakening has taken a terribly long time and

3:34:02 You know, it's an open question whether those who are awakening in Europe are going to be able to reverse this. We saw during COVID, we saw massive demonstrations where people are saying, no, no, no, no, we're not going to go along with this. And we saw with the Dutch farmers and the French farmers when According to the World Economic Forum, the Socialist International, the United Nations, they were having their fertilizer cut, their water rations cut. They're trying, the global would-be masters of the universe want to totally control food. And so the World Economic Forum has put together this global food hub, which is headquartered in the Netherlands, which we've written about.

3:34:50 You wipe out the farmers, then you will control the food. And they will have their corporate farms like they do in the Soviet Union and in every communist state where the government controls all of the food and your access to all other essentials in life. And so the Socialist International and the DSA, their adjunct here in the United States, are pushing these things as if They are offering the poor people of the world a genuine alternative to this terrible dystopia that is being foisted upon us, this new world order.

3:35:41 The New American special issue, again I'll hit on that, is the global power grab. Really need to get that at the newamerican.com. You can view the articles, see the articles, get a PDF of the whole issue. One of the things I'd like to show in here, and maybe we can have our engineers flip to it, is the center which is page 34 and 35, which shows the UN map of the world. It showed this recently to some people, very politically savvy people in Europe, and they were completely bowled over by this. They had no idea.

3:36:25 the extent to which UN agencies now control and have such impact over the whole planet. So this is a map which we have in there, it's two pages, and it shows the various UN operations all over the world. We have dozens of UN agencies from the International Monetary Fund, the World Bank, and the OIM, Organization for International Migration. And most of them are headquartered not in New York where we have the UN headquarters, but most of these agencies are headquartered in Geneva. Although there are some important ones headquartered in Bonn, in Berlin, in Paris,

3:37:18 Nairobi, in other cities around Brussels, around the world. And here we give a list of all the various agencies and then we show from the UN's own map legends of the extent of their operations in the various countries of the world. And so if you travel around the world, particularly in the third world, poor countries, you will see the tremendous footprint that the United Nations and its agencies have all over the world. Tent cities, massive buildings and operations.

3:38:00 We don't see those in this country and in fact the tourists who travel around the world don't normally see this or if they do it's hiding in plain sight and they don't see the significance of this. But then when you go to the United Nations as I've done for many years and you actually work in the United Nations, you see how all this money which comes from the US from our taxpayers and goes out through all these UN agencies is buying the compliance and the total subservience of those countries so that they always vote in concert at the UN headquarters and at UN conferences around the world. And so we are bribing and helping to put in power the worst kleptocrats and the worst dictators all over the world.

CHAPTER 37 / 38 Discussion

UN Migration Programs, Border Crisis and OIM

Bill Jasper alleges that UN agencies like the Organization for International Migration (OIM) are actively facilitating the illegal immigration crisis at the U.S. southern border. He claims the UN provides maps, cash, and phones to migrants to help them bypass national laws. Jasper calls for a total cutoff of U.S. funding to the UN to stop the "immigration invasion."

oim· united nations· illegal immigration· border crisis· usaid· state department

3:38:52 When you see the full extent of this, and as I've done many times, when I go to these events, our people, Alex Newman or others, we're on a very Spartan budget. Not so our public servants at the UN. They stay in five-star hotels, they eat at all the fanciest restaurants, they have at their own headquarters in Rome, in Paris, in Brussels, they have catered food at just magnificent feasts while they proclaim that they are helping the poor and starving of the world. And that is the kind of

3:39:39 global bureaucrats that we're putting in power. It's the same thing that you see in every communist country where the party leaders, the CCP or the Russian leaders or the Cuban leaders, they dine in luxury. They live high on the hog while all of their people are scrambling for whatever ration scraps they allow them to have. So that is what we're allowing to be put in place on over the entire globe if we do not defund the UN. I'm glad to see that.

3:40:17 A number of congressmen have co-signed on to the Defund Act, which is being sponsored in both the House and the Senate. And would cut off all US funding and US participation in the World Health Organization, the World Trade Organization, the IMF, World Bank, all of the dozens and dozens of UN agencies that are misspending our money. One very important aspect of that, that brings it home, right now we're dealing with millions of illegal aliens here in the United States. And all over Europe, they're dealing with millions of illegal aliens who came in as refugees, so-called.

3:41:09 That was sponsored by the United Nations, by an organization at the UN, at their headquarters in Geneva, the OIM, the Organization for International Monetary migration, migration, not immigration. There's a big difference between migration and immigration. Every country in the world has immigration standards, immigration laws, immigration regulations. If I want to move to France or to Mexico or to Malaysia, I have to go through immigration procedure. The same thing is supposed to happen, people coming in. We have immigration laws. So you have to apply, we set our rules, you have to abide by the rules. Migration means you can just migrate across open borders. And so we have this massive open borders lobby and

3:42:06 This has been going on for a long time. I did one of the first documentaries on illegal immigration called Out of Control, the Immigration Invasion back in the late 1980s, showing the disaster on our borders. Now it's inexcusable. Everyone can see what is happening. And we have journalists like Michael Yon and Todd Bensman and Muckraker, and I know Alex has had many of these folks on. They're showing that the OIM and other UN agencies such as UNESCO have been down there handing out.

3:42:49 Information, maps, phones, cash to the migration mobs and telling them how to get across our borders, how to violate our laws. Folks, this is our tax dollars at work through the United Nations violating our borders, destroying our communities, and it's actually meant to completely destroy our country. And it would just from the standpoint of the massive numbers that come here who are going to go onto the welfare rolls in our hospitals, in our schools, just the social burden. That does not include all of those unvetted terrorists and enemy warriors from China, from Russia, from other countries, from Hezbollah,

3:43:40 be taking part in terrorist activities, subversive activities, sabotage here in the United States. So again, this is the United Nations at work affecting us directly here every day in our lives. And we have an opportunity to change that. All of these UN agencies should be totally cut off from all of our funding. DOJ, Showed some of it going out through the USAID program, but that is only part of it. Almost all of our government agencies are shoveling our money out to these organizations that has to be cut off and primary among those is The United Nations cutting off not only our direct funding of the UN itself, but all of its ancillary agencies and bureaucracies so

CHAPTER 38 / 38 Discussion

Oklahoma City Bombing, Jesse Trentadue Investigation

Bill Jasper revisits the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing investigation, focusing on the death of Kenny Trentadue in federal custody. He highlights the work of attorney Jesse Trentadue, who used FOIA requests to challenge the official suicide narrative. Jasper argues that forensic evidence suggests Kenny was murdered to cover up deeper connections to the bombing.

oklahoma city bombing· jesse trentadue· kenny trentadue· fbi· foia· murder

3:44:34 That's one of the big things that we have to be very concerned about. I'd like to segue over to another issue which has come back into the news again, and hopefully we'll have time to get to that. We have, if we can bring up the New American webpage on Oklahoma City with our covers from the magazine recently a new book, Blowback by Jesse Trentadue, who's an attorney who's very much involved in this investigation. And Margaret Roberts has been making a lot of news splash in the alternative media and rightly so. So the New American, if we could have the magazine covers back up there again, really led the pack in

3:45:38 after the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995 and we covered, this shows just a few of the articles. We actually have well over 100 articles, primarily by myself. I led the investigation there, spent a lot of time in Oklahoma City. And if you see the second cover from the left there that is about New of it new new evidence on trial and so that our new evidence trail, so this is the story of Kenny Trent to do and Nobody was covering this we covered this in depth in this and several other articles Kenny trying to do was in

3:46:34 in prison there at the, in Oklahoma City following the bombing. And he supposedly committed suicide. And his family, when they recovered the body from the federal government, found out that no, he did not commit suicide. First of all, they knew that he wasn't going to commit suicide. He was just in there for a minor parole violation. He was looking forward to getting out. He was not suicidal. But they found out he had been severely beaten, had to tow and tortured. And they said no, this was not a suicide, this was murder. And in our article on that,

3:47:24 We find that experts who were forensic experts, pathologists, medical examiners agreed with them that this was not suicide, this was murder. And so the question is, well, who murdered him? Jesse Trentadue, his brother, is an attorney and he has been relentless over the years, over the decades on subpoenaing, or rather writing FOIA requests, suing the federal government. He got the FBI to turn over a tremendous amount of information. And he substantiated what we had found in our investigation. And we'll be back right after this message.

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