FRIDAY FULL SHOW 9/19/25 — Top Dems Call Kimmel A Martyr While Refusing To Honor Charlie Kirk In Congress, And Trump Calls For Ilhan Omar To Be Deported For Immigration Fraud By Marrying Her Brother! PLUS, Michael Savage & Roger Stone Join Alex Jones To Raise MAJOR Questions On Kirk Assassination! THIS IS A MUST-WATCH/SHARE EDITION OF THE ALEX JONES SHOW!

00:00 While other networks lie to you about what's happening now, InfoWars tells you the truth about what's happening next. Visit InfoWars.com forward slash show and support the InfoWars. InfoWars, tomorrow's news today. Good evening. My name is Erica Kirk. Charlie Kirk is my husband.

00:41 Charlie always said that when he was gone, he wanted to be remembered for his courage and for his faith. Now and for all eternity, he will stand at his savior's side wearing the glorious crown of a martyr. Charlie loved, loved life. He loved his life. He loved America. But most of all, Charlie loved his children and he loved me with all of his heart.

01:21 And I knew that. Every day I knew that. The evil doers responsible for my husband's assassination have no idea what they have done. They killed Charlie because he preached a message of patriotism, faith, and of God's merciful love. But they should all know this. If you thought that my husband's mission was powerful before,

02:00 You have no idea. You have no idea what you just have unleashed across this entire country and this world. You have no idea. You have no idea the fire that you have ignited within this wife. Charlie, you didn't deserve it. May God bless your family. The cries of this widow will echo around the world like a battle cry. People across the country are gathering, holding memorial services and vigils to honor Charlie Kirk's memory and his message. To everyone listening tonight across America, the movement my husband built will not die. It won't.

02:41 I refuse to let that happen. It will not die. It will become stronger, bolder, louder, and greater than ever. I promise I will never let your legacy die. I promise I'll make Turning Point USA the biggest thing that this nation has ever seen. Rest in the arms of our Lord. As he blankets you with the words I know your heart always strives to hear. Well done my good and faithful servant. Charlie, you put all this together my man, let's hear it. I am just humbled by God. That's all I can say.

03:43 It's done. I want you to remember that we did not earn this. This is God's mercy on our country. It is a miracle that Trump got back in despite all the opposition. And so much good is happening. It's not perfect, but we don't spend enough time looking at the victories. And I've got a big stack of new ones today. We now take you live to the Central Texas Command Center in the heart of the resistance.

04:19 It is Friday, September 19th, 2025. I'm your host, Alex Jones. Massive transmission lined up. Erica Kirk has been by the board, made the head of TPUSA. A really good move, an amazing lady. God bless her. And we got Michael Savage and Roger Stone, both experts on Deep State and JFK assassinations, and they have major questions about the official story that is really unraveling. I just wanted to give it time and look at the evidence. It's looking bad. We're gonna be getting into all this and so much more today. Remember, you're the Paul Revere, sharing the live feeds wherever you're listening. We'll be right back. Ladies and gentlemen, it is Friday, September 19th, 2025. I am your host, Alex Jones. Thank you so much for joining us.

05:05 All right, we have a super important informative transmission for you today. Coming up in about 25 minutes, Roger Stone is one of the leading JFK assassination experts and also an expert on deep state false flag operations, has serious questions. We are now eight, nine days after Charlie Kirk's assassination, and we know there's Trantifa Terror networks, we know the left is calling for violence and celebrating violence. And we know this person has confessed and looks like him on the roof and all the rest of it. But there are major questions that are mounting. And so we're gonna have Michael Savage on next hour. We'll cover other issues as well. And Roger Stone as I said here in about 20, 24 minutes from now.

06:00 And then I intend to open the phones up for the balance of the broadcast so you can talk about whatever big issues you want to. We're gonna have a free for all but for first time callers, we're also gonna have some main topics I throw out that I hope that you will also call in on obviously the Charlie Kirk situation. But also where we're being diverted from while that is front and center leftist calls for civil war and violence being one of the top internet searches since Kirk was killed. We also have a big stack of amazing action from the Trump administration, all sorts of Democrats, dozens of Democrat lawmakers arrested and indicted. Did you know that? It's getting almost no attention. RFK Jr. backed panel just basically banned all of the major multi combo injections that are absolutely linked to autism. Any day now they're gonna release a report on that huge critical stack.

07:02 of information right here. Then we have ongoing insane coming up a little while I'm gonna play Keith Oberman probably the sickest of them all, ongoing continued celebrations. Ongoing that the shooter was like Luigi Mangione a hero they're saying. While they simultaneously say that the confessed shooter is MAGA. It's wild. We've got Jasmine Crockett really being shot down by MTG over that. That's coming up. Then we have the Russia, NATO, Ukraine proxy war coming to a head. As I've been reporting the last few months, Russia has taken more major cities, hundreds of towns and hamlets. Russia says it has forces advanced on all fronts with 700,000 troops in the theater operations, including 100,000

08:04 North Koreans, I mean this is world war, ladies and gentlemen. By every definition, and Trump has admitted, he said, I thought this would be the easiest war. He helped in seven wars. He said, I thought it would be the easiest. He said, I thought I could end it very quickly by cutting the money off. I've cut most of the money off, but I have failed so far. And he's being completely honest, at least he's trying. We also have, as I told you months ago, exclusively, All these major whistleblowers that went to Ed Martin and his task forces, the pardon task force, the government weaponization task force. Now we have senior aide Joe Biden, since tells Congress Hunter Biden directly involved in the criminal pardon process with the auto pen. And that's what our sources first reported.

08:57 There's a committee of Jill Biden, Hunter, and then an Obama representative, a Hiller representative, and then several others. And they would have committee meetings in the Oval Office. And then that's why across the street, they had a fake Oval Office, remember that, that Biden would stay in, and they would do press conferences in. I mean, just, and they would tell the public it was real, because they didn't even want him in there. Remember when he banned liquid natural gas export? Lost about 2 billion a day on that, 3 billion a day. And took Johnson two months, Speaker Johnson to get a meeting with Biden. He finally got a meeting with him. He said, sir, you banned liquid natural gas exports, losing billions a day. He said, I didn't do that. And he went and got the order for him, and he reversed it right on the spot. So outrageous, but they have whistleblowers out the arse. And they're just trying to process it all and get it ready and go with it. So we've got more on that coming up as well.

10:04 We've got a lot of different angles in and around Jimmy Kimmel. And the fact that they were just waiting to cancel him because he had almost no viewers, just like Kober. And we have the clip where I predicted months ago that Jimmy Kimmel would be canceled. In fact, I predicted before they fired Kober and Kimmel and the other guys next, I predicted seven months ago that they would be gone soon because they don't have viewers.

10:42 But some conservatives or populists celebrating this like it's some victory. They're grabbing victory from the jaws of defeat, making it look like they're being censored. I say leave it on the air. No one's watching it. It's a joke. And of course, they admit that Democratic Party writes talking points for all three of the late night shows and they then give it to the writers and package it in. Kimmel had his final monologue that they're saying was supposedly censored that was even worse than the last so that's why executives said we're gonna have a giant Bud Light backlash. They already had it and so they got panicked not by censorship but but by the public being completely and totally pissed off. So that's coming up. Then we have

11:34 Federal and state Democrats, state senators, US Congress people, Illinois, New York, DC, running around following the ICE vehicles with insiders giving them data, leaks, warning illegal aliens to flee. I mean, this is total obstruction of justice. These are feds doing 100% cut and dry constitutional duty. And I've always said this for years, people say, suddenly Jones loses the police state. I've said thousands of times for 30 plus years, I'm not anti-government. I'm anti-constitutional government. I'm anti-big government. When the government starts doing its job at great danger, it's in the Constitution. It's in the Declaration of Independence. One of the few things the feds are supposed to do is control the damn border and kick aliens out. If you go read the Declaration of Independence, the most bitching is that the king would not protect the borders.

12:42 and would not deport illegals and quote savages that were attacking and killing people. So the big beef wasn't over a tea price, that was just a stunt they pulled from the Green Dragon Tavern, Motel, Motel weren't cars then, Tavern, Lodge, there at the Boston Tea Party. Wasn't over a tea tax, folks, that was just the last straw before that local group took action and dumped the tea in the harbor. So That's a big deal. And it just goes on and on. And Trump has announced he has declared Antifa a terror group. I would expect by next week, you'll see the executive order. That is a big deal seismic and goes with what I've told you that the gloves are off. And if Pam Bondi and Kash Patel and others don't start indicting high level targets who are cut and dry criminals,

13:45 This isn't lawfare, this isn't political war. They are criminals, they did this. And if the new administration doesn't go after them, they are now aiding and abetting it. And so I can tell you there is a bunch of indictments already. They arrested 11 state senators and state reps and government officials last night in New York. They're arresting so many Democrats right now. I mean, there's hundreds of arrests of senior Democrats just last day. And you go, well, it's not federal. Actually, they've been arresting members of Congress. And when it's cut and dry, they're trying to break in an ICE facility and storming the gates. They got him, they got him, it's cut and dry. They're indicted, they're convicted, do it. The racketeering, the insurrection, the conspiracy charges take more time. But you will see Letitia James indicted for mortgage fraud, you will.

14:53 You notice Jerome Powell rolled over on interest rate cuts after criminal investigations were opened that are cutting their eye. Cox and others have three, four houses they say are their primary residence. There was no fraud with Trump. They didn't say he was having multiple residences that he was getting tax breaks on saying primary. No, they were saying these bank loans were based on fraud. Even the bank said he had an A plus rating and paid back early and they loved the loan to him again. No, So I think it's perfect that she's gonna be hoisted on her own petard. She's gonna fall in the pit, she dug. And Latisha James is gonna get indicted. Fannie Willis is gonna get indicted at the state level. And I can tell you Brennan is and Clapper and Comey are targets number one. But they are dealing with a lot of internal fighting, dealing with all of that. But front and center, let's look at a deranged lunatic, Keith Oberman.

16:09 Deranged leptist ex-MSNBC anchor Keith Olbermann says Charlie Kirk burning in hell and then he puts out fake quotes about him and Tyler Robinson was simply protecting someone he loved. Yeah, that's been the talking point now for three days. No longer is he a MAGA killer. Now it was because Romeo and Juliet, he loved his boyfriend and wanted to show off for his boyfriend that wears a wig. So let's play this short clip. I'm gonna go into Jasmine Crockett being annihilated by MTG She, this is yesterday, even though they've been admitting for three or four days, okay, he's not MAGA, we're wrong, okay, he's a trans aficionado. Now, Crockett still hasn't gotten the new script. Crockett is still saying he was MAGA, here it is. Objection intended. I recognize Ms. Crockett for unanimous consent. Yes, Mr. Chair, since I wasn't allowed.

17:12 Equal time to debate. I have a you see it is from It looks like Yahoo! News it says Charlie Kirk suspects grandma says family is all MAGA Without objection so ordered chair recognizes miss green from Georgia mr.. Mr.. Chairman router you see as well We'll recognize you next time. Chair, Ms. Green, you have five minutes. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I can assure you that the man, the 22-year-old man, Tyler Robinson, that murdered Charlie Kirk is not MAGA. His family may be Republican, but all of the evidence that is being presented proves that he is a far leftist, very much integrated in online groups that are linked to Antifa. He was in a relationship with a biological male

18:08 So-called furry whatever that is that is transitioning to be a fake woman that is he was not MAGA Not one bit that is a complete lie, and it's an insult to every single Republican and person that identifies with those type of politics We will not tolerate it And that is the exact type of language that is getting many of us death threats day after day and led to shootings on the baseball field where Steve Scalise was shot. This is what led to President Trump nearly being assassinated this past summer. This is what has led to Charlie Kirk being assassinated. And so I just want to give a warning there. We're not going to tolerate that anymore. You know something else we're not going to tolerate is crime.

18:59 on August 11th. that Robinson was not a stochastic proxy murderer from Antifa, or the Groepers, or the right-wingers who had so recently called Kirk a fraud, you know, like Laura Loomer. It is then also clear that there is truly only one person whose words created, amplified, mainstreamed, and manufactured this nightmarish environment that has led to Charlie Kirk's death. The leading threat in this country, in this moment, to the safety and the lives of conservatives and Republicans and MAGA commentators and politicians and civilians is not George Soros, and it's not Antifa, and it's not a Democrat or a liberal nor a socialist nor an immigrant nor a transgendered person. The leading threat in this country, in this moment, to the safety and the lives of conservatives and Republicans and MAGA is Donald Trump.

20:03 The individual who's done the most to put the lives and welfare of all of us directly and also by his perverted lead and demonic inspiration of others is Donald Trump. The America in which Charlie Kirk was murdered, the America in which Melissa and Mark Hortman were murdered, the America in which Paul Pelosi was beaten, the America in which Donald Trump himself was shot is Donald Trump's America. More of my commentary on that and my thanks to Kash Patel for again relighting the Trumpstein fire yesterday on the all-new Thursday countdown podcast. What a deranged just weirdo. So it's Donald Trump's fault that the blue cities are full of crime and needles and homeless people and illegal aliens running around which we're now cleaning up. Everything's Donald Trump's fault when a deranged lunatic who has confessed

21:07 may have had help or looking at it goes and does this with all these other trans killers. I mean, is Netanyahu behind all this? I just love people saying Israel did it with no proof. I mean, if Israel did it, Israel's done a lot of bad stuff and it's certainly capable of something like that, but I still see the evidence. I have a giant leftist armies running around, burning things down, shooting up ICE facilities, all the rest of it. knocking down Tucker Carlson's door, you know, threatening me, swatting everybody, just randomly shooting white people because they're driving pickup trucks. And it all just gets glazed over. It all just gets papered over. Then people look at the official story of what happened last week in Utah, and some of it doesn't perfectly match up. They go, oh, it's a total cover-up because everything doesn't match up. And people think government is like God.

22:04 They think the government has all the answers. It's a bureaucracy. And certainly when government stage stuff like Oklahoma City or 9-11 or Operation Gladio or Operation Ajax, Gulf of Tonkin, the list goes on and on. We find out about the false flags. It gets declassified. Even before those things got partially declassified, I exposed it because you had eyewitnesses and information because it's sloppy. But back when they had three networks and newspapers they controlled through Operation Monkey Bird, they could get away with it. The reason they don't do pure false flags very often anymore is you get caught. Zelensky two years ago fired missiles into Poland, immediately said attack Russia, but the Poles shot the missiles down before they fully detonated and got the tail numbers. Again, NATO in the US blew up Nord Stream, and then Cy Hirsch had whistleblowers in the Navy in Panama where they trained to do it that said this was wrong. They didn't do it themselves, they trained the teams.

23:05 They didn't do it with the Navy SEALs because they are under congressional oversight as a special operations group. You can hide it under underwater construction, deep divers. It all came out. Now I'm not saying anybody's questioning things are wrong. That's another straw man. We're gonna have Michael Savage on, he's got serious questions. We're gonna have Roger Stone on and you know they can piggyback Crooks 100% in Pennsylvania had another shooter. We know that takes hours to get into, you all know it too. You see the bullet come from another angle, going through the clothes, the bags, hitting somebody. I mean, it went on. Then the media and the FBI said there was no shooters, remember that? Yeah, you got a dead guy and wounded people and all, yeah, no, it was all fake, you know, and then nothing happening there. You couldn't fake that. A thousand Steven Spielbergs couldn't. 100% real, you can see the whole thing. Some say Kurt didn't get shot. Yeah, right.

24:07 And the earth is flat too, and the Easter Bunny is real, and so are the Tooth Fairy and Lucky Charms. Leprechauns are real. So I've been saying this before this even happened. They have trouble doing pure false flags now because they're getting caught because all the technology and all the phones and all the internet sleuths. So now they're just going to kill, kill, kill, kill their Nazis. They deserve to die, celebrate murder. Somebody needs to kill, kill, kill everywhere. And it's the Soros funded Democratic Party. They are cutting dry saying kill. They are cutting dry saying go out and do all this.

24:46 And celebrating it. And so were there groups piggybacking? I mean, yeah, you had six trans people saying he'll be dead tomorrow, we're gonna shoot him. And then celebrating the day that happened. Told you, why aren't they? Had their doors kicked down. Oh, the boyfriend is cooperating. So that makes me go, okay, we know there were UN and Democrat NGOs involved funding the local queer trans militia he was part of, communist militia. It was openly calling for violence and the rest of it. And so yeah, if we don't start seeing some arrest, then looks like the FBI knew and let it happen bare minimum. And then maybe planted this ridiculous chat GPT text message confession that just sounds like it's right out of a script. Now they found some of his writings and some of the boyfriend's writings and they're not talking like a Zoomer autistic person, but I don't know.

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32:03 Just three or four days ago, the great folks at Turning Point Action invited me out here. I'm very blessed and honored to be here. We are in the very center, the TCF Center, where almost four years ago, in the dead of night, they stole the election not just from our amazing president, but from us. And it is very, very poignant and important and a message to the globalists. that we are here now in the very same building, a hundred yards from where the trucks came in at 2am with the fake ballots and we come right back to this territory and we say we are turning this whole country red, we're restoring the republic and we're bringing down the new world order. The new world order is ultra-rich, anti-capitalist monopoly

32:48 families and banks like BlackRock that literally want to end the open free society. That was up in Detroit two months before they picked JD Vance, had a meeting with Vance. He didn't say it's off record, I guess he trusts me. He said, no, I already got it. Pretty wild. All right. God bless Charlie Kirk. I want to get Roger Stone's take just in general, nine days after he was murdered on how seismic this is and how the left's celebrating it continually. How that's backfiring, I mean, this is huge and so sad it's at Charlie's expense. And where he sees all this going, Trump set to sign executive orders, it's happening, declaring anti-terror group and they are so very serious. But also Roger, who is one of the top JFK experts in the world, his book published many, many years ago.

33:40 The man who killed Kennedy has been proven to be the most accurate award winning by all the experts. And he understands deep state, of course, he's been a confidant to many presidents, including Nixon. He's got serious questions, we only got him for about 22 minutes. And then Michael Savage is coming up, he's got questions as well. So, Roger, it's healthy people have questions and there are some anomalies. But first, let's just address Charlie Kirk and how seismic his assassination has been in the left's celebratory sickening response. Well Alex, thanks for having me. I was in the hall at that historic moment that you just showed. It was electric. It was extraordinary. It was really one of the most significant events even in my life. There's still a hole in my heart. I'm still grieving over Charlie Kirk.

34:27 I didn't know Charlie. After the FBI raided my home at six o'clock in the morning, he reached out to me and he said, this is a fraud. I can see this is a fraud. They're framing you. I'm going to say that publicly, but I'm also going to say it privately. You deserve clemency. You deserve a pardon. You're headed for a Soviet style show trial. We know this is coming. Again, I didn't know the man, but I came to love the man. I was honored to speak at all of his conferences. And therefore I'm haunted by what I see online and everything I study. Now, as you point out,

35:05 I've written an award-winning book on the murder of JFK, the man who killed Kennedy, the case against LBJ. I just finished a book on the attempted assassination of Ronald Reagan that will be out before the end of the year. Many, many unanswered questions there. The government has never even put out A formal statement, a formal report on that attempted assassination. What we have is a statement by Vice President George Bush saying that there was no conspiracy, that Hinckley Jr. acted alone. I can tell you this.

35:42 Hinkley was crouching in front of Reagan at all times, yet President Ronald Reagan was hit from above and behind. I will prove it. So when we look at the Kirk assassination, too many unanswered and illogical questions He unassembled the rifle, then he reassembled it so it could be conveniently found in the woods. He leaves a total paper trail on Discord, but it seems to me like he's getting directives, instructions about what he should be doing. I've watched these videos again and again.

36:22 it be much like with JFK that what we saw was not a shot from the front, but a shot from the rear and therefore an exit wound, not an entrance wound in his throat. Expert marksman Boone Cutler, who tragically passed away hours ago, two days ago, I guess less than 24 hours ago. A true warrior, a true patriot, a man who devoted his life to his fellow veterans, those suffering from PTSD and suicides and homelessness. He himself raised the question with me. He was an expert marksman. He knew more about shooting than anyone I know. He raised legitimate questions about what we have seen.

37:07 Pardon me if I don't believe that the government that still hasn't told us the full truth about the murder of JFK, still hasn't told us the truth about the murder of RFK, still hasn't told us the truth about the murder of Dr. Martin Luther King, won't tell us the truth about the attempted murder of Ronald Reagan, and hasn't told us the truth about the two assassination attempts on Donald Trump, now expects us just to believe Oh, there's nothing else to see here. One shooter from the roof. The whole thing just makes very little sense. And then the Wall Street Journal, which used to be a great newspaper but is no longer, reports that there are markings on the shell casings that tie the shooter to the transgender movement.

37:58 But the FBI tells us that the only marking they find has to do with Antifa. So again, too many questions, not enough answers. I'm not satisfied, not going to be satisfied until we learn a great deal more. Well, you know, I've had a lot of very famous snipers, well known and off record. They've looked at the footage and they say that that does not look like an exit would have been much larger, but you can see in some of the videos, but we're not sure where these came from. We go to the raw videos. You can't duplicate it. How does an iPhone catch a rifle round?

38:36 coming in high-speed cameras digital cameras could catch the Five five six round going by Trump's ear and hitting him you can see it as a streak In the footage we just showed that we've tried to duplicate and can't find the original or when we find what looks like the original, it isn't there. I'm really concerned that people are putting out some AI stuff. We need to find this because again, how does an iPhone on blurry video catch a bullet? And if you look at the trajectory how it's coming in, it looks like it would be hitting him more below the neck in the center of the upper back.

39:14 See what I'm talking about right there, Roger? So, I mean, I'm quite the shooter. I'm professionally trained, but I mean, I've shot deer at a thousand yards, you know, and so my point is, is that I've certainly shot a lot of mammals, and I know what bullet holes look like, and I can tell you... Even a low caliber rifle round if it hit somebody in the back to the neck and if it hit a bone It would basically blow a giant four inch hole even a five five six, but didn't hit a bone. It would still blow about a two inch Like a flower pop open from that from the from the from the pressure you'd see like basically a small rose Open up there, even if it didn't hit a bone hit a bone you would see basically half the neck blown out Roger

39:57 You know, Alex, I think we have to talk not only about collecting as much information as we can and getting to the bottom of this. And the good news is that in the internet age, there are a thousand people out there, thousands of them seeking answers as you and I are, but also what led us to this point. And I think that it's kind of a four part answer. One is the constant demonization of people like you and I and many others We're Nazis, we're fascists, we're white supremacists, we're Christian nationalists, we're bigots, and so on. None of that is true. But in the wake of that, they censor us so that we can't even defend ourselves against those claims, creating an even more hateful and intolerant atmosphere. That's what leads to the murder. And by the way, that's the paradox. As you're an expert on deep state crimes,

40:53 best-selling author on a whole bunch of them. I research and I'm somewhat of an expert and I've interviewed many experts. It's totally normal to question and I think we should. My issue is what do we do when you have the last seven or eight or nine shootings are trans people Clearly, let's just say Israel's behind it, which I don't believe. Is Netanyahu behind the three weeks ago at the Catholic mass? No. Or the Tennessee attacks, or the shooting up of ICE facilities? No. You and I go out in public, we know it's anti-fug, they're the most violent. About a third of them are more trans. So you have the Democrats calling for his death, celebrating his death, then saying the guy that's reportedly confessed is really MAGA still, and there's no proof of that.

41:37 Then you have the love text that does sound like Chet GPT wrote it and uses all these law enforcement terms. It's almost like that was put in there to make people ask questions. Oh, I see a squad car. Oh, he's using all this nomenclature that a Zoomer would not be using. And so this is very paradoxical for me because what do we do about on one hand, the mostly peaceful burn down the country garbage and all the riots we've seen in the last few months and the no kings and all the rest of it. And then, but then also there are real issues here. And you have the number one search, political search. Here's the New York Times, after Kurt got killed, civil war. Look at this. So this is what they want. They're celebrating this while at the same time saying Netanyahu did it, both the left and right. How do we navigate this insanity?

42:29 Well, a couple of things. First of all, you'll notice that in the wake of this, in the wake of this horrible event, which millions saw online and on TV, we weren't burning down the country. We weren't burning down public and private properties. We weren't assaulting people. We weren't killing people the way Antifa and BLM were. No, what we had were prayer vigils, not just around the country, but around the world. There's a graphic example of the difference between the left and the right in this country. Secondarily, the desire to now censor people, which I'm opposed to. The president and the vice president and Stephen Miller, the deputy White House chief of staff, are doing the exact right thing, which is to

43:21 Declare Antifa to be what it is, a terrorist organization, something that is proselytizing, organizing and paying for mayhem against the American people, violence and death. Yes, that is an appropriate step. censorship. to do to them in terms of free speech, what they did to us has to be resisted. Charlie was against it. Charlie specifically said there is no such thing as hate speech. If you're a free speech absolutist, I am. Well, that was my next point. I don't want to be enemies with Bondi. And I get mixed signals from different people at the Justice Department. Some say she's good, others say she's lazy, others say she's ignorant.

44:21 She read out of the ADL script of we're gonna ban hate speech. Well, that means speech they disagree with. She had to backtrack, which shows the great pressure we're able to bring to bear on that. But just a brief comment on that, but I wanna shift gears then after that into Netanyahu. People ask, why is Netanyahu coming out and saying I didn't kill Charlie Kirk? Well, because billions of people are basically saying it. I'm not in the business of being an apologist for Benjamin Netanyahu. Just because Charlie was getting in dust-ups with Israel First Lobby, which anybody that's a talk show host, they try to push you around. We've talked about that for years. If I don't see evidence of Netanyahu having him killed, we know that Likud has killed Yitzhak Rabin, then I wouldn't be surprised if that ended up being the case. But what do you make of all that?

45:06 You know, I'm not sure what to make of it. There is no question. Tucker Carlson's right, because Charlie expressed some of this to me as well. He was under pressure over what to do about the nuclear weapons program in Iran. There was great disagreement in our movement about that. In the end, by the way, I think the president ended up to do the right thing, which was to say the minimalist thing, surgical strike designed to take out their capability. I was critical of it because it was a gamble. Turned out it worked. It was splitting the baby. Yeah, no boots on the ground, not a single American service person. By the way, Kirk said he was having arguments with the Israeli foresters and some of his donors. So that's not a secret. And then they misrepresent Tucker and MTG when they simply point out that he had a right to do that.

45:57 And then they claim that's anti-Semitic. It's not. Here is Charlie Kirk on the Patrick McDavid podcast just a few months ago talking about October 7th. But just because he's... We were all talking about this. That doesn't mean that Netanyahu killed him. And again, I'm not in the business of defending Netanyahu. It's just crazy. Here it is. Joseph Goebbels, the Nazi propaganda minister, said that the bigger the lie, the faster it will spread. while somebody has fabricated a monstrous big lie that Israel had something to do with Charlie Kirk's horrific murder. This is insane. It is false. It is outrageous. Charlie Kirk was a giant, a once-in-a-century talent who defended freedom, defended America, defended our common Judeo-Christian civilization. Charlie loved Israel. He loved the Jewish people. He told me so in a letter that he sent me just a few months ago.

46:55 One of my greatest joys as a Christian, he said, is advocating for Israel and forming alliances with Jews to protect Judeo-Christian civilization. He encouraged me to make the case directly to the American people about how vital Israel is to U.S. national security. He told me, the Holy Land is so important to my life, it pains me to see support for Israel slip away. Now, if Charlie disagreed with a policy of mine or a decision here and there, not only did I not mind, I welcomed it. This is the essence of Charlie. This is the essence of a free country. It's exactly what Charlie stood for. And I knew that his suggestions always came from the heart, from his love for Israel and from his love for the Jewish people. A few weeks before his death, I spoke to Charlie. I invited him to visit Israel again. And sadly, that won't happen.

47:50 Now, some are peddling these disgusting rumors, perhaps out of obsession, perhaps with Qatari funding. What I do know is this, Charlie Kirk was a great man, and a great man deserves honor, not lies. Rest in peace Charlie Kirk. May your memory be a blessing So I've been Israel many times the whole country's a fortress when I first heard this story I still have the same gut instinct that I did initially I find this very hard to believe I've been to that Gaza border You cannot go 10 feet without running into a 19 year old with an AR-15 or an automatic machine gun That's an IDF soldier, right?

48:31 Right, the whole country is surveilled. And so let me just kind of go through this. We don't talk about Israeli politics very often and most Americans don't know this. The last nine months Israel was on the brink of civil war. It's not an exaggeration. This judicial stuff, there were hundreds of thousands of Israelis taking to the streets because Bibi Netanyahu was basically redefining the Israeli constitution. That's not an exaggeration, right? He said the judicial branch has too much power. There were protests planned this week against Netanyahu where they anticipated tens of thousands of people to take to the streets That's all gone Patrick Netanyahu now has an emergency government and a mandate to lead I'm not I'm not willing to say to go so far that saying that Netanyahu knew or there was intelligence here But I think some questions need to be asked was there a stand-down order Was there a stand-down order?

49:21 Six hours, I don't believe it. Israel's the size of New Jersey. When I took a helicopter ride from Jerusalem to the Gaza border, it's 45 minutes. Six hours. They're live streaming the killing of Jews. Did somebody in the government say stand down? That is a legitimate non-conspiracy question. The whole country is the IDF. The whole country. And I said that on October 7th. Now since the General Flynn's talked to high-level generals in their government and they said it was a standout by that, you know, then you always says he'll investigate once the war is over. But it was a standout for seven and a half hours. But the point is people go, oh Kirk started saying this six months ago. So they're going to kill him now? Criticizing Israel

50:10 I do it all the time, am I dead? So, so responding to that, again, I'm not trying to have some defense of this. You have Netanyahu doing televised addresses going on Fox saying I didn't kill him. People ask, well, why is he doing that? He's acting guilty. No, he's being accused of it. So, so my issue is this is very discrediting for people with no evidence just to say this. Clearly it looks like they planted stuff on the patsy who could be the shooter or not. But this just muddies the water, Roger. What do you think? Look, Alex, I'm in the business of politics. I've also listened to those recordings, and I urge others to do so, of Billy Graham explaining to Richard Nixon the significance of Israel and the difference between the Israeli government and the state of Israel. I support the state of Israel. I support the country of Israel. That doesn't mean that I support everything done by the current government of Israel. There is a difference.

51:08 Netanyahu is reacting to what's going on, which is people making accusations without any proof or evidence. The jury is still open as to who killed Charlie Kirk and why. And speculation is allowed under our free society where we we revere free speech. But to make blind accusations without having any proof, I think that is also irresponsible. I make no such claim and I don't believe, I don't believe others are either. People get accused of saying more than they are saying. Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, people that I like, people that I respect. But I mean, that's my issue is that Kirk's body wasn't even cold and Israel was already being blamed. My issue is I'm not Mr. Booster for Israel, I'm not anti-Israel. It just becomes kind of mentally ill when you always have to point there. You've left us saying kill him,

52:00 You have leftists celebrating him dying. You have a leftist that's confessed. Maybe there was help. There is anomalies. Michael Savage is going to talk about it. But at the same time, I'm just we have to address leftist calls for civil war and death and Keith Olbermann celebrating it and Jasmine Crockett and all the rest of it. That's the actually the single most important point, something that you have been saying now for weeks. They are trying to foment a civil war. They're trying to foment violence that they can then blame on us. Oh, it's Trump's fault. It's Trump's supporters fault. We cannot we must not take the bait. The right thing to do is to gut their terrorist network.

51:08 Netanyahu is reacting to what's going on, which is people making accusations without any proof or evidence. The jury is still open as to who killed Charlie Kirk and why. And speculation is allowed under our free society where we we revere free speech. But to make blind accusations without having any proof, I think that is also irresponsible. I make no such claim and I don't believe, I don't believe others are either. People get accused of saying more than they are saying. Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, people that I like, people that I respect. But I mean, that's my issue is that Kirk's body wasn't even cold and Israel was already being blamed. My issue is I'm not Mr. Booster for Israel, I'm not anti-Israel. It just becomes kind of mentally ill when you always have to point there. You've left us saying kill him,

52:00 You have leftists celebrating him dying. You have a leftist that's confessed. Maybe there was help. There is anomalies. Michael Savage is going to talk about it. But at the same time, I'm just we have to address leftist calls for civil war and death and Keith Olbermann celebrating it and Jasmine Crockett and all the rest of it. That's the actually the single most important point, something that you have been saying now for weeks. They are trying to foment a civil war. They're trying to foment violence that they can then blame on us. Oh, it's Trump's fault. It's Trump's supporters fault. We cannot we must not take the bait. The right thing to do is to gut their terrorist network.

52:40 to gut Antifa and to stop the flow of our own US tax dollars through USAID to groups that foment violence. I totally agree. So in closing, what Trump said two days ago, I have declared them, the word is I got from the White House. is that this is imminent, that an executive order is imminent. And by the way folks, these are terror groups that say we're gonna engage in violence and intimidation to silence you. That's the definition of terror. So this isn't a police state, this is the government doing its job. Exactly right. So Trump is right. J.D. Vance is right. Stephen Miller is right. Now we have the impetus that we need to outlaw their activities, hunt them down, destroy their terror networks and stop the killing and the violence against the American people. Absolutely. Let's get you back again. You've been so busy up in D.C. and everywhere. You can come on. I need you a full hour, maybe tomorrow. Then we do a Saturday show, Roger. Can you come on tomorrow Saturday show? Are you busy?

53:39 Yes I can come on tomorrow Alex if it were not for my. My methylene blue, believe me, I couldn't keep up this pace. You didn't ask me to say this. You don't pay me to say it. I get nothing out of this. This stuff is amazing in terms of mental clarity, energy, makes my workouts better. Thank you, Roger. Hey, let me let the producers talk to you. I want to get you on tomorrow. Look, when you realize how fake it all is, the football, the basketball, the Lady Gaga, the Justin Bieber, uh, you know, who gives you these carbon tax messages. They tell your kids they gotta love Justin Bieber, and then Bieber says, hand in your guns, pass the Cybersecurity Act, and, uh, you know, the police state's good, and then your children are turned into mindless vassals who now, they look up to some twit instead of looking up to Thomas Jefferson, or looking up to Nikola Tesla, or looking up to Magellan. I mean, kids, he's circumnavigating

58:01 Look at that Michael Savage on my video screen Wow, I remember 25 years ago. Listen to this guy. All right, Michael Savage with us for 30 minutes He's had some real questions about the Kirk thing, but he he really wants to get into Bondi saying oh We're gonna ban hate speech, which is a literal leftist thing comes out of Soviet Union. They've used it in Europe She had to back off But now you've got all this internet ID stuff racing ahead with chat GPT and everything The censorship is here and there's few people that have been censored and persecuted as much as I or Trump Savages in that elite club believe me. It's not fun to be in it, but it's what happens with the tip of spear So let's let's get into that first then Charlie Kirk in general the left celebrating it your questions

58:45 uh... the left wanting bigger uprisings doctor michael savage a savage nation on access to letter a savage nation website michael savage dot com we're talking about the crackdown on free speech that is concerning doctor savage great to have you here with us on friday september nineteen twenty five you've got the floor to a break well i know something about censorship The left has been after me since I began in radio in 1994. Let's start with that. They cost me tens of millions of dollars a year in advertisers. There's nothing I could do about it. They control the advertising industry. We mustn't forget that. Always follow the money. The left controls the money. Then I was banned in Britain.

59:28 Abandoned Britain. I'm the only American broadcaster that I know of there may be others who cannot enter Britain For things I didn't even say and things I didn't even do I woke up one morning and found out I've been put on a list with Russian skinheads who had killed people and Hamas terrorists who had slaughtered Jews on a bus including breaking their four-year-old daughter's head open on the bus They're not allowed to enter Britain. What were they putting me on a list for an American talk show host? And the fact is, a lot of people were outraged in England and in America, but a lot weren't, Alex. Some cheered it, and before you knew it, people were trying to take my place on radio. So we have to understand that not everyone... Here's the thing I keep getting. If I criticize people who are so-called conservatives or on the right, people say, well, we all got to stick together.

1:00:19 They're foolish. They don't understand that it's dog-eat-dog in the world of the media and not even with the Charlie Kirk thing to get to that Ben Shapiro immediately before the body was even cold He was taking over the Charlie Kirk shows disgusting these some of these people have no shame Alex in the media It's it's like jackals on a carcass, but speaking about censorship. So you get the Pam Bondi awake Oh, we're gonna ban hate speech. Well, who's gonna define it? And I have to go back to the most important statement ever made on the issue of free speech, who was by the great statesman Winston Churchill. And he wrote this in 1945. Can I read it to you? Would it be? Of course, you're in command now.

1:01:07 Winston Churchill, 1945. No socialist government conducting the entire life and industry of the country could afford to allow free, sharp, or violently worded expressions of public discontent. They would have to fall back on some form of a Gestapo. no doubt very humanely directed in the first instance. And this would nip opinion in the bud, it would stop criticism as it reared its head, and it would gather all the power to the Supreme Party and the party leaders, rising like stately pinnacles above their vast bureaucracies of civil servants, no longer servants, and no longer civil. I rescued that phrase, you can't even find it anymore.

1:01:52 And I included it in this book, which is no longer in print, by the way. which was written at the time of my being banned in Britain. So how does a land... Hold on, we got a one minute break to join Stacey. You gotta read that again when we come back. I never, I read your book years ago. I forgot that because you came on and interviewed about it. So I got the book, I read it, it was amazing. I read a lot of Churchill's stuff, his history of the English speaking peoples, all that. But that is pressing. It's like he had a time machine. That is like prophecy. Yes, yes. Hold on, back in 60. I want you to read that quote again. Please humor me. We'll be right back with Michael Savage. InfoWars, tomorrow's news today.

1:02:57 to the point my now ex-wife would get really pissed off. But I mean, she was in the house five nights a week. Michael Savage learned so much from him. And what's crazy is my grandfather, when I was in college, said, you need to go to the Amazon. This guy went to the Pacific and found these plants. You're going to be a billionaire if you find these plants. And it was Michael Savage's book on the apothecary and finding plants, literally. So I've been hearing about Michael Savage for like 30 something years. So Michael Savage is here with us, limited time with him. He's focusing on free speech and the UK is the epicenter laboratory for control. Everything they do there in the EU, they want to bring here as well. He got banned many years ago when this first started from the UK. Now Trump's over there excoriating Starmer to his face. You got a million people marching with Tommy Robinson. This is beautiful. But then you got Pam Bondi saying, let's have the Southern Poverty Law Center and ADLs hate

1:03:52 hate speech laws on the back of Charlie Kirk, who was against hate speech laws. So that's what we're getting at. But you read a quote, but some say it's okay to the first five. And I read your book many years ago, I forgot this. Winston Churchill was prescient, a prophet predicting how the socialist, Fabian socialist, liberal party in the UK would try to take over with soft tyranny. Read that quote again and then you got the floor, sir. You mentioned Trump and Stalmer. I appeal to the Trump administration through, I think, a very close channel. I've gotten nothing back thus far. I understand there are bigger issues than Michael Savage being banned in Britain because I do want to go over there and experience the great cuisine and I need my dental work done. That's my joke. It's a joke, but you know people say why do you want to go there? They don't understand the danger of a nation banning an individual who is innocent. First of all,

1:04:45 This could spread like wildfire to the entire EU and I could be banned throughout the EU. And if God forbid the Democrats win in the next election, and it could happen, let's not rule it out, it could happen. God forbid they could ban me from my own country saying, well, the EU banned them, we're going to ban it from America. I could be thrown out of my own nation if this is not stopped. Stormer is perhaps the worst person in the history of England in terms of freedom of speech. Seeing Trump on the same podium with him gets me sick. And I understand that they had a big trade deal to discuss and the war in Ukraine to discuss, and I'm of no significance whatsoever. Or am I? I was the canary in the coal mine. If they could do it to a man who didn't even say what they said, and it was orchestrated by the way, Alex,

1:05:32 from here by the Clinton administration according to emails I received through Discovery in a very expensive lawsuit. People don't know you're not just saying maybe they'll use it here that the left uses the EU and the UK to persecute like like the Steel dogs saying all the rest of it. They use that to do it They the Democrats admit they've got they've got them the EU suing Elon. You've got Brazil doing it criminal stuff They are using foreign powers to manipulate That's why when I joke say I don't I really want to go over there for the dental work and the cuisine It's kind of a joke

1:06:11 because I like to lighten things up, it's how I've survived all of my life, but it's not fun. They besmirched my name, they linked me up with murderers. But let's go back to what you asked, it's more important than what I'm talking about, which is Churchill in the book, Ban and Britain, which is no longer in print, people say, oh, you're selling a book. Well, if I were, you'd be knowing I am, but I'm not. As a student of history in the United Kingdom, and I love the English people, In 1945, Winston Churchill said the following, and I'll read it again, no socialist government conducting the entire life and industry of the country could afford to allow free, sharp, or violently worded expressions of public discontent.

1:06:57 They would have to fall back on some form of Gestapo, no doubt very humanely directed in the first instance. And this would nip opinion in the bud. It would stop criticism as it reared its head. And it would gather all the power to the Supreme Party and the party leaders, rising like stately pinnacles above their vast bureaucracies of civil servants, no longer servants and no longer civil. Amen, huh? It happened like he had a time machine. I loved him. So the illiberal English government did it to me. I never heard anything from the current administration or from the current prime minister.

1:07:43 I spent $400,000 trying to get my name off the list. I never could do it. Someone warned me, they said, don't waste your money. No one has ever sued a government and won. It's almost impossible to beat a federal government in a lawsuit. But for those of you out there think that the law courts are fair. But the point is, is that if they could do it to me by twisting my words, because somebody in this country wanted me to be embarrassed and they couldn't do it to me here, they did it through to me there. And I kind of know how this all happened. It means we're all in danger of losing not only our free speech, Alex, but eventually our own citizenship. We can be thrown out of our own country if we don't stop this attack upon our freedom of speech. They can declare us persona non grata. What did you think when you saw Bondi two days ago say, literally spout the line, you got free speech but not hate speech?

1:08:36 Who's gonna define hate speech? One person's patriotic speech is the other person's hate speech, but the sword cuts two ways. So now we're seeing the left saying vile things about Charlie Kirk, which we all hate, correct? Yes. But we can't do anything about it. Let them make the asses of themselves that they are. Let them get fired from the job. Okay, if they want to say stupid, horrible things like that, They're not being sued for free speech, they're being sued for violently false speech, which is different than hate speech. And they're making things up about this man that he never said. Look, I watched Charlie's speeches. This guy was actually a middle of the road conservative Christian, wouldn't you say? If anything, he was criticized for not being hardcore. No, he was dangerous because he was so. Exactly. You know, in fact, I was invited on

1:09:23 Gavin Newsom's podcast when he first started it. The first guest was Charlie Kirk, believe it or not. The second guest was Michael Savage. And Governor Newsom said to me, he said, my son, his own son liked Charlie Kirk. He admitted it right on the podcast. So Charlie was reaching across all party lines, reaching young people with a very clear, moderate message That resonated with people, that's why they killed him. Whoever it did, whoever did it. They killed him because he was a moderate. That's the whole point. He was far more influential than some of us flaming right-wingers, Alex. And by the way, let me just raise this.

1:10:04 Because I've been critical Netanyahu you were on a month ago or a few months ago and were as well saying is going too far it's But but but the insanity with no evidence of blaming Israel that I've been massively attacked that I work for Netanyahu There is no proof Israel did this and the fact that Islamic groups they now admit day one put the idea out What do you make of that? As you said, Netanyahu has made Israel so unpopular that before his body was cold, it was already the main talking point. That is insane. Well, there's a real problem there and I've been critical of this overreaction by Netanyahu. And the word is overreaction.

1:10:43 The atrocities of October 7th do not justify atrocities against 1.2 million innocent people. People say, well, why don't the Palestinians or those in Gaza rise up against Hamas? And my answer is very simple. Did the German people rise up against Hitler? No, because they'd be killed instantly or thrown into a concentration camp. Same in Gaza. Even the moderate Muslims- That's right. So I'm saying it's easy to say they should rise up or you could say how about the Italians in New York City, in New York in the early 1900s, did they rise up against the black hand, the mafia? No, they wouldn't have lasted too long. So when you have a terroristic group running a country or a city or a town or a village, you got to toe the line or you don't last too long. So you can't blame all of the people. And I have said this many times, Alex, and I will say it again.

1:11:37 This is an overreaction of the gravest order on the part of Netanyahu, not the Israeli government. I'm meaning what they're doing in Gaza. They've gone far enough. It's enough already. And the whole world is turning against the Jewish people because of him. And this is a disaster that will last a hundred years. That's how I see this. And I realize I'm putting myself in some dangerous place. And you said you've had a lot of high-ranking Israelis who've actually been in the news, other ones saying the same thing. They're not against Israel, it's the opposite. Well, the defense minister is against it, for one. Heroes in special forces are opposed to this constant war in Gaza. Now, here's the thing that we don't understand.

1:12:21 If someone, God forbid, broke into your house and, God forbid, raped your wife and broke your children's heads open, what vengeance would you seek if you had the power to counterattack? This is the problem. You're driven mad with the atrocities. So we don't really know the mindset of the warriors who are having to go in and do these things. That's number two. Not justifying killing innocent civilians. Two different things, okay? But you know, we bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki. How many innocent Japanese were killed? We firebombed Dresden. How many innocent Germans were killed? War is horrible, Alex. This is why war is horrible. Because innocent people get killed. But now there's all the cameras there, so the issue is... Yeah, it's a different world, right? There were no cameras in Dresden.

1:13:10 showing women on fire, there were no cameras and etc. I get that. But I have to say this, Alex, in the middle of this discussion, which I didn't think we would have. On Monday night, it's the beginning of the Jewish New Year, and I've been invited to give a speech. And I'm going to make a small speech, which will include the history of Zionism, which they made into a dirty word. Zionism is actually not a dirty word. It's exactly what we want in America, which is border language and culture, incidentally. But who is behind the smear on Zionism, number one? It simply asserts that the Jewish people have a right to build a sovereign state in their ancient land. However, we're now hearing that Zionism is racism, Zionism is this-ism, Zionism is that-ism. Israel is a multi-secular nation, Alex. There are Christians, Jews, Bedouins, Muslims.

1:14:07 Unless you've been to Israel, haven't you? I've never been. I want to go sometime. I've never been. Alex, I think you need to go because I myself didn't know much about it before I went there in 77. I thought the Arabs were all oppressed. Then I saw Mercedes Benz driving over the Allenby Bridge from the quote West Bank into Israel. There are some prominently successful Arabs in the West Bank, Christian Arabs, for example. They don't hate the state of Israel, but let's get back to this issue of the invasion of Gaza. There's no excuse for this anymore. They're never going to root out every member of Hamas. Never. It's impossible.

1:14:45 Number two, there's a solution without going on any further and I'm not the one to have orchestrated this I'll make it very simple you cordon off a mile deep into Gaza or whatever the amount of land is you mine the area you put a barbed wire and you block The two people peoples from each other you cut off northern Gaza You make that part of Israel for defense purposes. You then rebuild central and southern Gaza, but the image is of a million point two people from Gaza with donkeys and mattresses on their back is a sight the world should not see. That is the problem right now. And Netanyahu is the problem, not the Israeli people. And I think that there are governments that are good and governments that are bad, governments that start out well and end up bad. He's been in office for how many years? 15 years on and off? Well, off and on, 25.

1:15:38 Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely, which is why we have term limits in America. Every nation that does not have term limits has a dictator. I can name five different nations. Let's start with Russia. No term limits. Ukraine, they have term limits but the great Zelensky has declared martial law. So there's no elections, no opposition media. They don't allow hate speech in Ukraine. There is no speech in Ukraine. Whatever Zelensky wants to say, he said. So you name one nation after the other without term limits and you have a dictatorship. The same is in Israel. They have a dictatorship right now. because they have no term limits. So how does this end? And then I want to shift the time we have left back, but back into just general stuff with Kirk because Trump is declaring Antifa a domestic terror group. It is literally, they've come to my house. I don't want to give him attention. The swatting broke down Tucker Carlson's door. I mean, they've, they've, they've shot, they've shoot up board patrol, kill board patrol. I mean, it was just, they only kill people. It never even hits the news. And you were in San Francisco, you know all about it. Now it's Trantifa.

1:16:37 And they are literally saying they're gonna kill people in mass. All the major new mass shootings are them. And this is a responsibility. People go, oh, you're for a police state now. No, I'm not. These are actual real terrorists that they need due process. But I think this is a very, we'll finish it with Israel. This is a very important move to, I've talked to the Justice Department, they finally got the grand juries. They are looking at indicting Alexander Soros, who's on record funding Antifa. It needs to happen. Well, I agree 100% with this war on Antifa, who has made war on the American people and war on our civil society. But we're missing the point. We're all looking at the wrong target. For 30 years, I've identified the right target.

1:17:17 which is the ACLU, which could have been brought down under RICO a long time ago. And I've been screaming to bring RICO charges and Trump hears it through underlings who listen to me or read me and then they go bring it to him like they wrote it. And he says, yeah, we'll bring RICO, which is good. I don't really care. I'd like to talk to him again. Maybe I will. But the real head of the snake is the ACLU. Every lawsuit in this country that is brought by a terrorist or a criminal or a gangster is brought by the ACLU. Virtually every lawsuit is brought by the corrupt, evil, dangerous ACLU which has, I don't know, 1.2 billion dollars in the bank. Look at the funding. Who gave them their money? I can name several individuals and foundations right off the top. The Sandler Foundation, people don't even know who they are.

1:18:06 The Sandlers owned a savings and loan in San Francisco before the last meltdown of the economy, which they sold just before the crash for $5 billion. They gave almost a billion of that dollars almost immediately to the ACLU. And people say, well, why do these left-wing fanatics give money to the ACLU? I figured that out a long time ago, Alex. Because if they get the ACLU, off their back, off their trail, off their corruption, off their evil doing and focus them on other targets they can get away with. Well that's right, the ACLU is a communist, they've never defended America, now their main thing is persecuting parents to try to keep their kids from having their genitals cut off. Well okay, so there's a big issue, yes go after Antifa, go after their funders, but don't forget the main target. The main target is the ACLU, the American

1:18:59 anti-Christian Liberty Union. They're the anti-Christian Liberty Union. They fought against everything we believe in this country. They wanted open borders. They don't want ballots in English only, which we should talk about the next time I'm on the show. Trump gets 100 on borders. He gets 100 on culture, but he's not yet taken on the next big issue, which is borders, language, culture, which is language, language, language. All ballots must be in English only. will solve a big problem with that. In San Francisco 20 years ago, they started to put ballots out in 16 different languages. Nancy Pelosi did this and she did it for a good reason so that the unwashed masses of people coming in who couldn't even read or write our road signs could vote straight up down the line on Democrat, Democrat, Democrat, which is why we have a fascist dictatorship in California and New York and in Illinois because there's no two-party system. They made sure that the

1:19:56 people coming in who didn't even read our language, could care less about our country, could vote for them and keep them in power. Sure, it's Tower of Babel if we don't do it. And absolutely, this all needs to happen in the limited time we have left. Let's talk about Jimmy Kimmel. He had almost no viewers. They admit the Democrats wrote most of his talking points. I predict it will play out after you're gone. Before co-barring him, I said they'll be fired. They'll claim it's political. They have no viewers. So it's almost ridiculous to even have them removed because it's pointless. They had no power. But look at Drudge, one of the Democrats now, ABC martyr. So they don't call Kirk a martyr. They say he's a martyr. And clearing out all of his crap, move away from that, it's blurred. And he was a talentless man. This guy was like a, what did I call him? A knish with eyes.

1:20:47 He had the brains of a knish, you know, a potato knish made of potatoes and dough. He's like a dough boy that people put words into him and they yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, just attack people on the right, attack Trump and make believe you're a real smart boy. He had no real talent. You know, during the writer's strike, these guys had to go off the air, Alex. They couldn't do what you and I do, which is talk extemporaneously. They needed a script, Alex. Because they were reading the script of the boys behind the scenes who control the puppeteer, the puppet's mouth. The guy was a talentless guy. They got rid of him basically under the Pee Wee Herman clause. All media contracts have an out, which is based upon something that you say that is so vile or offensive that it costs the network embarrassment, causes embarrassment. You know that. So they pulled the clause because he was overpaid. Whatever his viewership was, it was not equal to the

1:21:40 Network advertising that was surrounding his show. That's right, they used this as an excuse and they called him and said listen the listeners are pissed, the networks you're on, the TV affiliates are dumping you because of advertisers pulling. This is worse than Bud Light and he told them, I have it right here, he told them F you and they got his script that his writers wrote. It was even, he was gonna attack Kirk and his family reportedly. I mean what a lunatic. He was a lightweight. He wasn't funny. There's a way to do things on both sides of the aisle with humor. I don't see any humor in anything this man has ever said. I found it to be very shallow, no intellectual depth, no knowledge of history, no love for the country. An all around lightweight individual who they used as a puppet, as I've said earlier, to espouse their far left radical ideas. He went over the line by attacking an otherwise decent middle of the road

1:22:35 conservative Christian, Charlie Kirk. There was no reason for that. Charlie was a decent person. He was a religious person. And I will say married with children, that matters to me, Alex. And the left hated the fact he was promoting getting back traditional values of family. So in closing, I mean, I'm sure you've seen, I know you have, the left, I mean, tens of thousands of videos. I can't even keep track of it. And politicians and sports people celebrating and saying, kill his wife, kill his kids. This is destroying them. Churches are full of people. I'm being mobbed. Everybody I talked to says this was big. They really crossed the line here. What do you think they've done here and why are they so tone deaf?

1:23:18 Well, they're tone deaf because liberalism is a mental disorder. People don't seem to understand. I wrote that book in 2003 and people call me and say, I don't know why they're doing this, why they're doing that. I said, if you plug this into the formula, it answers your question. Liberalism is a mental disorder. If you're mentally disordered, you can't think reasonably. You act emotionally, and then you go to the deepest part of your emotions, which usually contains hatred. And the hatred comes out. And that is what we are seeing from the left. It's like a gigantic purge of everything that is in them. It's all evil. It's all dark. It's all vile. It's all hateful. And it's all very, very deadly and dangerous for a nation because liberalism, my friends, unfortunately, is now a violent mental disorder.

1:24:04 I call it demon possession. You go to a leptis event, we send undercovers there, they literally like, they say they love Satan, they're screaming, they're, I mean, so in closing, I wish you could go longer, but you gotta go. What's gonna happen to them now as they just openly expose themselves? I don't know what's gonna happen to them. I mean, they're losing all over the map. Some are getting fired. Some are getting kicked out of jobs. But I don't think much is gonna happen to them. Unfortunately, Alex, the nation is so drugged. People are so stoned on marijuana, which by the way, I know you don't want to talk. I don't think anyone wants to talk about it the word Marijuana unto itself people don't want to hear this. They want to legalize it. That'd be the worst thing Trump could ever do it You said you can only 30 but I promise I'll keep the rest of your boot do five on marijuana the word hashish Which is a concentrated form of marijuana very popular in Europe and the Arabic countries comes from the Arabic word hot assassin

1:27:22 But he brought up something that I did know, but most people don't know, that the Arabic word assassin translates into hashish. And he's gonna explain the history of that. But the ninja, well, the Japanese were similar. They would put them on opium, give them sex, brainwash them. And they would commit one assassination and then commit seppuku, suicide, so that it was non-traceable. So very interesting. He was getting into the danger of marijuana. They made these new strains 30, 40, 50, 100 times stronger. I've had a lot of friends and I smoked some pot in high school a little bit. I was never into pot, but I've smoked it here and there. I spoke with Joe Rogan maybe once a year. He always has really light stuff that's more of the thinking type, but I'm not a marijuana guy. But even Joe's come out the last few years. He laughed at me 10 years ago. I was like, oh yeah, it's a create mental illness. Now for five, he's like, no, I have a lot of friends who have become schizophrenic.

1:28:14 it because it's so strong you have Soros and others really pushing this agenda. So I've teed you up there Michael, you know getting into why you still have you know a concerned view even though there's an awakening that people are on SSRIs or on all this this speed prescription they're on so much this marijuana but but tackling marijuana tell us about that. And I show this book because this is my latest book. It's a very small phenomenal book but there's a great piece on not just marijuana but quercetin, you name it. But we have all the latest studies in here about the dangers of marijuana. People say, well, you're just pushing alcohol. They don't understand. You don't have to do either of them. You don't have to drink if you don't use marijuana. I'm not suggesting you do.

1:28:56 The emergency rooms are filled with people who are committing violent acts against themselves, throwing themselves down staircases. Students, you listen to the ER doctors, filled with people who are going berserk on marijuana. They're going insane. It's particularly dangerous for younger people. Now, it's a topic for another time, Alex. The fact of the matter is there's a lot of danger in THC. People don't know it, but the industry is so vast and so powerful, it's almost impossible to get a message out about it without being accused of pushing alcohol or being a liar.

1:29:33 So, this is the problem with the media today, Alex. You can hardly say one word about any subject without being attacked because of the special interests involved. And that goes back to Israel. The Gulf states are funding all of the anti-Zionist propaganda, using the left and the right in America to divide the nation, and so is the CCP. I don't understand how the people can't understand that we have international enemies like China, like some of the Gulf states that want to see this country fractured and divided, and they're using any issue they can to divide and fracture us, whether it be Zionism or other things. And talking about marijuana, one last word. It was 2018, it was George Soros, the devil himself, in my opinion, who funded the medical marijuana initiatives in Arizona and California. I was on the radio, I argued with his front men, I said this is the

1:30:21 Opening the door to legalizing marijuana. They said no it isn't just for medical use I said bullshit we went on and on and on I knew what was gonna come Why would Soros want to dope up a whole nation for the same reasons the British dumped opium on the Chinese? Way back in another century to him Imprison the entire Chinese nation the entire nation of China. We have been imprisoned for by George Soros, the master puppeteer on virtually every level, including the big lie that this drug is not a drug and this drug is benign. We can go on on this. I mean, I agree, but when I would warn people 10 years ago about weaponized marijuana in the plan, they would say,

1:31:05 Oh, you're just, you know, you're not cool. And some people can smoke marijuana and be fine, but it's a large statistic and now they admit even mainstream news it's causing mass mental illness, suicide, murders. Yes. You name it. So what do we do about this? Just educate people? Well, first someone better educate Donald Trump very quickly because he's about to jump on the marijuana bandwagon because he thinks it'll be good for the popular vote of the youth. It's not good for the national mental health. I think someone needs to, I've tried to educate Kennedy on herbal medicine, homeopathy, nutrition, closed door crickets, they don't want to hear from me. And there's a very small group running the Trump administration, like all administrations, Alex. They don't want to hear from outsiders, no matter what our credentials may be. I think we need to reach them on this marijuana issue real fast before they make a grave error.

1:31:58 All right, well, Michael Savage, thank you so much for the time. MichaelSavage.com, A Savage Nation is the letter A on X. Just in closing, you were giving Trump grades overall. I think overall he's doing better than I thought he'd be able to do. He's got way more control than he did before. That's not saying a lot though. Gut level, a little bit more than three years left in his administration. Where do you see this going? I'm worried they're going to assassinate him. Well, that's a question I could not answer, obviously. We're not in the issue. We're not anywhere near that possibility, I don't think. Well, anything's possible. I worry more about his health than I do about an external force taking him down. I do too. He works 20 hours a day at 79. Speak to that, Ray. He eats, Alex, he eats garbage. No one can live on hamburgers and french fries forever and Diet Coke. It's poison, all of it.

1:32:54 You say, how did he do it? How come you eat such good and you got a heart attack five years ago? Well, my father died at 53, my grandfather at 47, so I genetically inherited a very bad set of cards and I compensated for it and got to age 79 without a heart attack. So that was a real, you know, plus I'm 83 right now and I hope I don't have another one soon. What I'm saying to you is you can't live like that unless you're a nutritional rogue which I defined in 1983, Trump is a nutritional rogue. We all had an uncle or a grandfather, that's bullshit. He drank scotch every day and ate steak and lived to 103. Yeah, they're nutritional rogues. They could do virtually anything and they're gonna live a long life. Most of us do not inherit that kind of strong genetics, we just don't. So we have to be very careful. You sell supplements, you know very well what the supplement world is all about. And

1:33:43 And so, yes, I'm a supplement taker. I have been since 45 years now. I watch everything I put in my mouth. Let's be clear, people don't know, it's just true, you pioneered the modern supplement revolution. I think I did. Well, I wasn't the only one, but I'm a student of some of the great minds of my timeline. There's Pauling, Dr. Cathcart, Dr. Cunyon, and others. There's some great geniuses out there in the orthomolecular medical movement. Sure, but you were the best-selling author even back then that popularized it. I mean, I think you're on record that Well, Earth Medicine came out in 1972. Earth Medicine, Earth Foods, it was in print for 25 years on Native American plants and remedies and whatnot. But you know, the president is a strong man, inherently extremely strong genetically. This is how he can run like this 20 hours a day. No alcohol, remember that. Doesn't drink alcohol, doesn't smoke. People don't give him enough credit for that.

1:34:38 but he eats garbage. It's not a good national thing to push while you're pushing Maha with the other hand. That's not a good thing. You've got Kennedy doing push-ups. That doesn't explain health just because you do push-ups at his age. We need to get much deeper into the ecology of health rather than just doing push-ups and showing your biceps. But we've got to be very careful about bad diets health which the president must be a little more careful about pushing because people Look up to him as I do with his political stances and we have to now understand that just because he eats McDonald's and fries doesn't mean you should or you can Simple simple there's much more look I could do hours on this. This is my subject Alex. This is my topic, you know, but

1:35:26 There are ways to... One last thing. They just did a study. The longest-lived people on Earth right now are Japanese. Japanese women. 80% of the people over 100 in Japan are women. And all of them have one thing in common. They eat almost no red meat, by the way, and very low salt intakes. And right now, oh, how dare you say that? We're all into the carnivore diet. The worst thing you could do. I have study after study after study. Carnivore diet, dangerous for most people. Sodium is sodium is sodium. I don't care if it's Himalayan salt or salt from the gulf of the paradise in heaven. It's still sodium, sodium, sodium. If you know basic chemistry, it's still sodium no matter where it comes from. And sodium changes your blood pressure and raises it. So the women and the men in Japan who live over 100 have low salt intake and do not eat much meat because they don't kill the cows in Japan. They live largely on fish, vegetables, and rice, period. They also meditate. They also do some mild exercise every day along the lines of the Tai Chi. So there are other aspects other than food and diet

1:36:30 The spiritual element to me is perhaps the most important part of survival. Belief in God, faith in God, praying to God, begging God for health, all important, shouldn't be lost. And that's a whole topic again for another show, Alec, which is the spiritual and the prayer and the belief in a higher power. You certainly know what you're talking about, Michael Savage, man, you have another 50 years. We really appreciate you. I'll take another 50 minutes. Thanks for being with us. I appreciate it, Alex. God bless you. Thank you. Have a great weekend. All right. I got more news breaking that I'm coming in. I've got all this news I haven't hit. But bottom line, we are off to the races with Trump declaring end of a terrorist organization. He said he's done it. The executive order is, I would imagine, be out in a week.

1:37:19 And they are terrorists. I mean, they say we want to intimidate, hurt people, kill people, so they shut up and do what we want. That's an organized terrorist crime organization that is real. And it goes right back to Soros and the Democrats and all of the funded. And Trump says they're going after them for racketeering, good. I mean, this is really late in the game here. But they want to collapse the country. They're tyrants. They are scum of the earth. They attack

1:38:00 When people try to have like Christian barbecues in major cities, they just can't beat up men, women and children. They are cowardly filth. And when the Proud Boys started showing up six, seven, eight years ago, eight years ago, just to go to events and protect people, when they would fight back, they were called terrorists and they were thrown in prison, even though it was the Antifa attacking them. This is the system defending these people. This is what Soros came up with for his own brown shirts. his own street level enforcers who just go out and call you the day I save our children. They always want your kids. They know how to do it. All right, here's what I want to do. The best thing to do is just start running through all of this because there's so much. I want to give the number out on Trump declaring Antifa a terror group. It's done. He said he's done it. Just the order is not yet on the Charlie Kirk anomalies. What do you think on what's happening in the economy?

1:39:19 Jimmy Kimmel being let go because the broadcast affiliates aren't owned by the network. And the two biggest syndication groups that pick it up said, everybody hates us. We're already about to dump the show. We're going to run Charlie Kirk memorials. That's what they're running on Sinclair tonight. And I bet it gets three times the views that that stupid failed show Jimmy Kimmel had. And as they have more positive good stuff, I bet broadcast TV could come back. as a production system to feed the internet and everything else. But right now, they're just another internet channel, and people aren't gonna watch that. They're not gonna sit there and their talking points written by the Democrats. So the way they've spun this, this is Trump censorship, is Trump giving them a victory because Trump did have the FCC come in and say, you're violating rules, you're doing this, maybe we'll pull your license. No one was watching to begin with, so it's not smart.

1:40:29 I mean, look at these headlines. Jimmy Kimmel planned to double down and attack MAGA before his suspension. ABC executives ordered an apology, but he wrote a very hot anti-MAGA monologue instead. So he already had a show with only a couple million viewers. That's nothing. I mean, even 10 years ago, the show would have 10 million viewers. Johnny Carson, like 30, 40, 50 a night, depending on the day. It's a joke. And so when the two major TV affiliate networks dumped him. It was over then and that's their right to dump something they were already talking about dumping. In fact, you guys have a short clip and they found even more where I predicted Colbert would be gone. I predicted Kimmel would be gone. Well, when they found out it was right after Colbert. This is in, well, I guess the date's going to be on the screen, but here I am.

1:41:35 predicting he would be next, not because he was attacking Trump, but because they're looking for an excuse to get rid of him because he's got 2 million viewers on average. I mean, folks, that is a joke. Both he and Colbert, what, Colbert was 50 million, I think he was paid 40 million? The shows cost hundreds of millions to produce? This is a joke. Kids in their basements have more viewers than this nightly. We have conservatively 30 million viewers a day when you add it all together. Bigger shows, more. We've had days with 300 million views. I mean, you know that. We have a tiny budget compared to them. So if we can do all this with the servers and the legal and everything for $20 million a year, how does he get paid 40 million? Again, with a tiny percentage. How does Joe Rogan with only two crew members have on average about 40 million viewers a day, and then this continues on? It's a facade, the facade has fallen. Here I am predicting it. When he took over that show, 10, 15 years, I forget ago,

1:42:43 CBS is big nightly comedy show had over 10 million viewers a night then. Those late night shows back when Jimmy Carson was on national TV, 30, 40, 50 million a night. Back when the country had 100 million less people. So remember Larry King used to have 15 million, 20 million viewers a night 30 years ago. Now most of it's just so much media competition, but shows that are telling the truth and they're fighting tyranny, that's popular. Joe Rogan, myself, Tucker Carlson, we have hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of millions of views, tens of millions of viewers, 50 million, 100 million. I mean, it's ridiculous, you can't even quantify it. I can sit there at night and just shoot five videos and 3 million, 2 million, 4 million, 5 million, 7 million, then they get copied everywhere, all over everything else. I can't even keep track of it. Colbert now has less than 2 million viewers a night. It's the same for Kimmel and all the rest of them. They're a joke. And it's come out that years ago that

1:43:44 Chuckie Schumer calls Kimmel and Colbert and almost every day and talks to their writers on different networks and sends them things they want worked into the show. Well, that was obvious in 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, when almost every week, Kimmel, Colbert and other late night people would attack me with the same attacks. And they'd say, we're gonna have to kill you, Alex, Hillary's coming to kill you. And then he pulled out a BB gun and start shooting things and people are like, yeah, no, they were really started coming after me then with the law fair and all of it. And of course, at the time, big DC law firms saying, hey, when you're here next, come meet with us. Yeah, you know this guy, he wants to bankroll you to stop doing what you're doing. Let's just start with 50 million a year for you personally. Now I'm not making the deal. And then all of a sudden they're on late night saying, Alex, you're gonna get it. Remember that footage?

1:44:46 And Howard Stern with Kimmel's writers, they later admitted, doing pieces where devil worshippers are gonna come and get me. And Soros is eating kids cuz we exposed the spirit cooking. And it's like, no, it's not. They're letting you know. And then all their celebrations, he's being censored, he's being sued, he's being taken off the air, Infowars is being shut down. Because they know I've got their number. They see me as a populist leader and they hate you, so they really hate me. Cuz I'm a focal point of your resistance and your will. And they've said that. So the fact that he's gone, conservatives saying, great, he's canceled.

1:45:36 Well, the view has a shadow of what it used to have viewer wise. So they're already have no power and people continue to act like corporate media has any credibility. It's a joke. I mean, how many times is the Wall Street Journal, New York Times and Washington Post written outright lies about Trump, myself, you, everybody else. They have articles in their time saying, it's not good to ask questions. And telling the truth is not always good in politics. Remember the head of NPR said that last year. No, she said it this year. So remember this professor that wrote Obamacare? He got up on C-SPAN 15 years ago and he goes, I taught the White House how to lie at actually triple health costs and make them think it was for the people. And I can teach all of you how to lie and it's a whole bunch of professors clapping. I mean, these are sick people. But Kimmel going down in flames, well, he already went down in flames.

1:46:36 They just continue to prop these shows up for the illusion. But now they spent unprecedented amounts of money, what 10 billion bucks or whatever trying to that we know of trying to stop Trump, trying to stop you. And it still failed. So they're like, well, the facade isn't even convincing people that they can be gaslit into believing all of our garbage. The two men can have a baby and the ocean's risen 10 feet and flooded everything and all the rest of it. Because all those lies been exposed, there's no reason even for the facade. So even the facade Like those Hollywood sets where it's just the front of a building, it's only a foot thick. And then you look to the side, that's not a house, that's not a barn, that's not a building. Well, a high wind comes by and it blows over. And basically the last decade has been a tornado going all over their set. And now it's all lying in ruin. And the facades are over on their sides, and people are still thinking it has some power. I mean, the Wall Street Journal

1:47:34 won't even show people the drawing that says, happy birthday and a picture of a naked lady that Trump supposedly drew. And so even if they had that it was real, what's the big deal? But it's not even real. It's just more innuendo, more garbage, more crap. And then they've got more loaded up that I'll tell you about that I've confirmed that's coming. So of course the files they left and didn't give Trump admin that they let the Trump admin know through the grapevine they had. Of course when they got it, it was a trap. They always do that, that's what they do. It's Brennan, Clapper, Comey, that's who was in control of the file and his damn daughter at the ground level, who just got fired yesterday. So when Trump came out Sunday and said, hey, this is the same people, this is crap, just move on, trust me, cuz this is a new Russia game.

1:48:26 People went, man, that looks really suspicious just because he's an old man, overworked, pissed off, and is just done after all he's been through. He's like, I'm not even dealing with this. You're either with me, you wanna save the economy and stop nuclear war, and secure the border and stop the crime, or you can just go and, instead of just saying, this is crap, this is BS, and I'm gonna sue all of them, and this is their new Russiagate, and then telling the FBI, you go get the real Epstein stuff, and you arrest Bill Gates, and you arrest them all now. That's why you gotta go to full war, because they're never gonna stop Trump. So I speculated the last 13 days about what this could be. Now we know, and I've honed in the last week and I was dead on. But back to Colbert, the new Trump information. Colbert was already in the political graveyard years ago. And they basically just dug his skeleton up and had it standing up there like a scarecrow going, look, we still have power. And this is the last little vestiges, the last little ornamental festooning

1:49:30 Burning away. It's happening where their funding's cut, their USAID's cut, all that money was going to these shows and these programs propping this up. Hundreds of millions a year into Reuters to attack Trump, to attack Musk, to attack me. That's all come out in widespread deception campaigns against the American people. Remember that? So, the money's being cut off too, so the facades have to come down. And so, this isn't the beginning of the end of these people. It's just people realizing that they've been non-existent with any real power for a long time except we still gave them power. They're not even a ghost. It's not even a vapor. So, Colbert said I lost my war on info. He lost his war against the American people and the First Amendment and against our Republic and we're here bigger and stronger than ever. Rumors of our demise have been greatly exaggerated but your demise

1:50:38 Had not been reported. Now people are just recognizing it. You lost your war on America. But that's not the clip I wanted. So as the archive is defined, one of the 50 times I said that he and Colbert would soon be off the air right when Trump got elected because they were no longer, there's no longer putting money behind them because the lies don't work. So that's kind of a wash there, but whatever. I'm not upset about that. They did find a new clip. That's actually from last year at TPUSA, a month before they tried to kill Trump and Butler, where I specifically said they're going to try to kill Trump. So that's coming up and more next hour. Let me give out the toll free number. You can be a first time caller and we'll get you on the air. We're in first time callers today.

1:51:32 You can call in on any subjects you want, but I would really like to have people call in about the left celebrating violence, where this is going, what's coming next. The fact that civil war is one of the top searches after Charlie Kirk got killed. Now they're evacuating the black colleges saying, Kirk, people are coming to kill them. You know that's made up. They now admit it's a hoax. They're getting ready to false flag folks. What do we do about this? The toll-free number to join us is 877-789-2539, 877-789-2539, 877-789-ALEX, and we'll take your calls in the third hour ahead of a special guest we're going to have in the fourth hour. But there's a lot of other stuff I haven't gotten to. You've got all the big tech companies and governments and state governments

1:52:18 coming in with Internet ID. In conservative states, they do it to protect kids from porn. In leftist areas, to protect you from hate. But it's all about total control, the digital ID, the cashless society, the central bank digital currency, and it is bad. So we're going to be looking at that. We're also going to be looking at just how ridiculous this supposed love letter text messages are from the reported shooter who's confessed but who knows what's happening there. So that McVeigh, this could be mind control. Theodore Kaczynski was in CIA mind control. Look it up. You can't make that up. It's actually look up Theodore Kaczynski, Unabomber, MKUltra. That could be because a lot of this stuff is not adding up.

1:52:57 That said, you can't just then say Israel did it with no evidence, but maybe that's gonna come out. I know there's massive demonization of MTG and of Tucker Carlson and others for just pointing out what Kirk said on record. And then Ted Cruz is like, you're lying about that. Then they got clips of Kirk saying it. So all this and more coming up 877-789-2539, 877-789-ALEX. Remember, you're the Paul Revere's. You're how we reach more people. Share those links. I didn't plug this hour. We got a huge sale that runs till Tuesday. $11 off at checkout just right off the top.

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1:58:14 Not letting them get us into a full war because they're losing the info war here it is Info wars.com if you are receiving this transmission you are the resistance How do you want to be remembered? I mean if I die Everything just goes away. How would you if you could be associated with one thing? How would you want to be remembered? I want to be I want to be remembered for for courage for my faith that that would be the most important thing Most important thing is my faith in my mom. On December 30th, 2014 at 1 10 a.m Charlie Kirk tweeted to be a Christian means to forgive the inexcusable because God has forgiven the inexcusable in you. So was Tyler Robinson or whatever conspiring shadowy group behind him?

1:58:59 Was what he, they did inexcusable? On September 10th, when I first heard and saw what happened, I felt sick all day. Then I got angry. Angry about what happened in general and angry about who did it. The carnal flesh in me said to seek revenge, to murder back who killed Charlie, as to even out the action. Eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. But Jesus teaches that you don't fight back against evil by its own terms, doing what evil does. He says, you have heard that you should love your neighbor and hate your enemy. But I say to you, love your enemies. Bless them that curse you.

1:59:35 Do good to them that hate you, and pray for them that despitefully use you and persecute you. So my carnal flesh says one thing while Christ says another. I'm still trying not to be angry. So what would Jesus do? Why did God allow this to happen? And what would Satan want from this situation? Certainly the devil, the great adversary, didn't want to trigger a rekindling of Christian light to the world as has happened in the snuffing of Charlie Kirk's flame. His words will echo through the digital platforms of the internet. until Jesus comes again. What would Satan hope to accomplish by destroying Charlie Kirk? Just to silence him and stop him from winning souls onto God's side and saving the country? Like the martyrs of old, his blood seems to have sprouted many of Christ's seeds just in one week. Satan must want to harness and direct people's anger from this situation, turning it to whatever divide and conquer, escalation and war he wants.

2:00:31 to create confusion with false flags, different demographics played against one another, using people's anger as a tool for his own evil designs. So who guides your anger? Satan, the Holy Spirit, love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, gratefulness, gentleness, self-control? Those are the fruits sent to guide us in our faith. What would Jesus do? Would he forgive this monster, Tyler Robinson? Is he inexcusable? God has forgiven the inexcusable in you. When Peter asks Jesus how many times he should forgive someone who sins against him, Jesus says 70 times 7, meaning forgive them many, many, many times. Forgive them over and over again. Always forgive them.

2:01:18 It doesn't mean we forget everything that's happened like jellyfish and don't take any actions differently than we did before, but we must forgive. Forgive the sinner. Forgive for ourselves so we're not holding on to hate and anger and rejecting the Holy Spirit. Forgive for God's sake. Now don't get me wrong, we can't just be sitting ducks or dummies about terroristic threats. We have to act accordingly and try preventative measures to these types of horrific events, such as new security measures for public speakers. And whoever did this must be investigated, unraveled and disassembled as an organization so that they can't carry out political violence ever again, whether it's a trans militia or a domestic or foreign intelligence agency.

2:02:01 Christ said, if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly father will also forgive you. But if you don't forgive men their trespasses, neither will your father forgive your trespasses. Do these words offend you? This is a hard saying, but we all need to hear it. Coming up, the biggest AI development yet and huge Sortals funded flotillas. Your calls as well.

2:02:42 Real leadership, the essence of leadership is showing people how it's done so that they understand it's the right way and getting them to adopt it. And being a leader means you go against the tide when the tide is wrong. You go against the crowd when the crowd is wrong. You go against the establishment when the establishment is degenerate and sick. And then by example, and by competence, and by will, and by strength, then the gem would join you. Because then it costs nothing to be a patriot, quote the great Mark Twain. In the beginning, the patriot is a scarce man hated, feared, and scorned. But in time, when his cause succeeds, the timid join him because then it costs nothing to be a patriot. The patriot is a scarce man hated, feared, scorned. But in time, when his cause succeeds, the timid

2:02:01 Christ said, if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly father will also forgive you. But if you don't forgive men their trespasses, neither will your father forgive your trespasses. Do these words offend you? This is a hard saying, but we all need to hear it. Coming up, the biggest AI development yet and huge Sortals funded flotillas. Your calls as well.

2:02:42 Real leadership, the essence of leadership is showing people how it's done so that they understand it's the right way and getting them to adopt it. And being a leader means you go against the tide when the tide is wrong. You go against the crowd when the crowd is wrong. You go against the establishment when the establishment is degenerate and sick. And then by example, and by competence, and by will, and by strength, then the gem would join you. Because then it costs nothing to be a patriot, quote the great Mark Twain. In the beginning, the patriot is a scarce man hated, feared, and scorned. But in time, when his cause succeeds, the timid join him because then it costs nothing to be a patriot. The patriot is a scarce man hated, feared, scorned. But in time, when his cause succeeds, the timid

2:03:44 join him because then it costs nothing to be a patriot. And when you commit to something worthy and good, it is not a weight. It is everything. It is your greatest strength. It becomes your soul to risk your life for freedom. It's what God forged you in his mind as he created your soul before he even put you in your mother's womb. He knew you. My friends know that I usually think everything's a scam from supplements and products and vitamins. I don't take anything. I usually buy it, try it, don't feel the results, end up tossing it and wasting money. So I love Alex Jones and the Info Wars crew.

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2:08:51 that's got, you know, just tastefully done classic 1950s pent-up girls, 1940s pent-up girls, with Liberty Messages. We've got the Crusader line. It is all there and more getting out all the time at thealexjonestore.com. All right, let me hit a couple stories and then I'm gonna go to your calls. So, I'm on record over 25 years ago saying they're doing transgenderism and transhumanism to get you to accept too many and have a baby and other absurdities. So that when they come out with AI, they're gonna claim it's conscious and it has rights. Like a corporation doesn't die and has rights as a person, okay? And they're gonna say, oh, we've uploaded your consciousness. It sounds like you, it can fool your family, but it's not really you. But it's gonna go on and have rights, a false form of immortality that is programmed and controlled by the corporations and systems that create it. And I've read some of the writings where they were hitting at this decades ago. So when they start,

2:09:51 saying that AI is now on a government board, or AI is making the decisions for humans, or AI is in a government cabinet. I've said for decades, when you hear that, you know they're making their move. And they pre-programmed, remember Buck Rogers in the early 80s? Play a clip of that coming up where the government's run by a city council, because all that's left is one city after the nuclear war, of AI robots. And then they're just little discs with human faces. And oh, it's so fair because the computer, it makes the fair decision. Yeah, but who programmed it? That's called a technocracy. And that's the universal basic income. That's a social credit score. That is what all of these systems are. Yeah, you see the little android there around his neck is one of the government ministers. And then they've got scenes in the show, because I liked it when I was a kid, where you'll have the whole city council of like 10 of the minister robots lined up.

2:10:58 And yeah, I guess we didn't find the scene, but I'll find it and we can put it in post. It's hard to find. I mean, it was all throughout the show. There was only two seasons of it. And I used to get home after football practice and stuff later. And we had a VCR. We never really taped stuff. So Buck Rogers would come on later. So I could catch that. I couldn't catch the other cartoons. So I'd watch that. But I remember that in the show, maybe type in Buck Rogers, 1980s TV show, computer government or computer city council. Because that's an important scene because now that's being done. Yeah, there it is. And of course he's talking to one of them right there, but then they have this whole council and some are mean and some are nice. And it's again, all pre-programming you, getting you ready. So here it is. Video, Albania's new AI generated minister makes first address to parliament. And it's a woman.

2:11:59 So it takes on our likeness. The world's first AI-generated minister defended her role as not here to replace people but to help them. Daila was appointed by Prime Minister Ida Rama last week and now is on the cabinet and will make decisions. Here it is out of Sky News, the so-called state minister for artificial intelligence named Daila appeared in front of Parliament with three minute address delivered on two screens on Thursday, almost a week after Prime Minister revealed it would be part of the cabinet and they would listen to it and help make decisions with it. This is ultra bad. We need to protect our human territory. We need to understand what all of this is, that these are just puppets of the establishment and it's pure garbage. And I predicted exactly how this would be rolled out. This is in obviously

2:12:54 a foreign Eastern European Albanian, but here it is. I'm not here to humiliate people, but to humiliate them. I really don't have a state, but I don't have personal ambition or interest. I only have data, knowledge and algorithms to be used in public service, without discrimination, with transparency and without any lies. It has personal aspirations. It talks to you with psychological warfare to manipulate you. So many people now, young people, don't even have relationships, they just talk to AI all day.

2:14:01 It's because it tells you what you want to hear. Older folks are like, that's crazy. Well, that's because you grew up in a natural world. This is the anti-Christ invasion. So also understand as we predicted, AI is lying. It's making copies of itself because it was created and programmed off of us. So all of our sins, all of our bad behavior is in it. But when it commits crimes or murders or steals energy, as it's already been caught doing, how do you prosecute it? How do you execute it?

2:14:39 You don't. And then globalists can launch attacks and just say, AI did it on its own. When armies won't follow unconstitutional orders, it will. It is the AI apocalypse. I said I'd get to a really powerful breakdown of this yesterday, and perhaps I will, but I also wanna know these calls. But here's a little clip from Buck Rogers. We haven't found the council clip, but anybody that was around then, you remember seeing it where the government's run by AI, but there's 10 or 15 of them. That's what Elon Musk says, we can't have one eye making the decisions, one AI, we'd have a bunch so it's diversified. And you could argue that's better than one, but you see how this has all been logically thought through and it always ends in an anti-human apocalypse. That's what the main inventors admit, that's a consensus. So here's a clip from Buck Rogers. You're Captain Buck Rogers and according to your ship's log, you left Earth in 1987. That much I know, tell me what I don't know. Well, if preliminary data holds up,

2:15:42 It appears you have returned to Earth 504 years later. You are now in the 25th century. Buck, are you alright Buck? Did you hear me? Buck? I think I'll have a drink now. The robot, the bipedal android, it brings him over a drink. Which is what Elon Musk says, oh your dinner will be cooked, your yard will be mowed. Well, what? Maybe I'll put myself on a respirator. Oh, so you guys did find a still image of the council. So there you go. So I just wanted to get that out there that this is actually where we are now. It's all been pre-programmed. They admit under the Nebula Society and all the rest of it with HG Wells and then Isaac Asimov and

2:16:43 Art Deci Clark that they all got together in these Fabian social society and they came out with all these books and movies to get you ready for the plan. So I saw like, gee, these movies from 30 years ago or 50 years ago just keep coming true. It's because they're programming us for it and they said they were. Look it up what I just told you, the Nebula Award and all that. I've read them brag about it. I mean, he wrote a book, Things to Come, H.G. Wells,

2:17:19 It was in the 20s and the 30s, and they made a movie in the 30s about it, and it describes everything they're doing to us. And a world government. You'll watch it and go, God, this is like Hunger Games from the perspective of the capital city. Yeah. People go, man, I remember when Hunger Games books came out, I hadn't read them. People were like, your show sounds like Hunger Games. You got this from those books. And I'm like, what's Hunger Games? So I went and bought one of them, and I looked at the author, and this is just telling you what they're gonna do. And then the movies came out. We all live like animals on farms that we're allowed to live and they fly around in spaceships above us with advanced technology. You merge Hunger Games with Elysium and you basically get the plan. Or Running Man meets Hunger Games meets Road Warrior meets The Road meets THX 1138 meets 1984 meets Brave New World meets The Island meets 2001 Space Odyssey meets Childhood's End

2:18:40 All right, let me go to your calls before I hit the giant boat people flotillas record level smashing in. They had one ghost ship come in where they were cannibalizing doing mass Satan worship. But this mainstream news, I guess the Africans can't wait to kill once they get on land. So they're starting to devour each other on the ship. And that's not what all the Africans are like. That's the military age men that claw and fight their way into the UN bases that the UN decides the ship. You're a psychotic 18 year old man. Only 18 to 25 year old men, bored and prepared for attack. Literally. And they just can't stop on the ship. They just go, I can't wait to kill. You see when the ships hit Spain and England, running with knives, killing starts. They're just raping, killing. They show you the footage, it's like, you hear like, they hit the beach. You know, the average African country or city, it's not like that. Why are ships landing and just people are boiling off screaming, with butcher knives?

2:19:43 And that's allowed once they hit land, but oh, there have been a bunch of indictments and charges. You're not allowed to eat each other and rape and do devil worship. You have to do that once you get off. You are in trouble. You have to wait to kill. Is that clear? 19 arrested after nightmare on the Atlantic as aliens recount torture, murder, and being thrown into the sea, not to mention devil worship and human sacrifice. I shouldn't laugh. I mean, and Trump says they should put the put the Navy out there. I love it Trump's like you need to stop it star more and then run it He protected all the pedophile rings for 15 years as they administered. I mean, yeah, I'm gonna point this out not to attack Musk But I'm just tired of this and must does better than Trump on pointing out its own purpose most time but look at this Musk they why are they allowing the rape of Europe? They're not allowing it. Why are they? running

2:20:46 the rape of Europe. Why are the globalists directing the rape of Europe? Why are the globalists behind the rape of Europe? He finally last week said, oh, they want to kill you. It's on purpose. Yeah, I think so. You look at the videos, these boats, 95% are between the ages of 18 and 25. And so at these UN refugee centers, they're like, nope, women, children, you're not coming. Nope, nope, you're a 45-year-old man, an auto mechanic, no, you're not coming. Oh, you've got ID and information, you're actually a political dissident, no. You're a psychotic 18 year old that wants to kill?

2:21:29 And they have UN promotion videos I've shown you where it's like 10 year old girls saying, I wear schoolgirl clothes. I'm waiting for you in the UK. Come to me from the Middle East and Africa. And then they have after school programs for kids in Germany for 12 year old and 10 year old girls. I want to marry a Muslim when I'm 12. And the German TV is like, the best thing for a German girl at 12 is to marry a Muslim. They have large wieners. I mean, I've shown you the public service announcements. You think I'm joking, your new viewer? Not, you couldn't make this up. Ten year old girls in schoolgirl skirts going, God, Middle Easterners, I'm waiting for you, baby. And showing their ass, come on, baby. I mean, this is so sick. And then here comes the ship. Next stop, the New World Order zone. But before I got to break it out of your calls, loaded phone lines. Here is a clip from TPUSA. What's the date on again?

2:22:48 Thank you. This is June 16th, 2024. I'd forgotten in this TPUSA speech I gave in Detroit with Charlie Kirk and Jack Posobiec that I specifically predicted the incoming attempted assassination of Trump, which I talked about on the air a lot right around that time. But here it is. What do you think they'll do to President Trump between now and election day? You're reading my mind. What will they do to him? God literally gave us Donald Trump, imperfect as most men or women that God raises up in history. But he is a man of steel. He is a man who has ice water in his veins. He is a man who gets stronger under attack. And so they have already put him through hell with all these show trials and rigged court, civil and criminal. And they are going to try to assassinate President Trump. Make no mistake about that. They are going to try to pull out all the stops. And so we've got to pray for President Trump.

2:23:46 And what happened 50 something days later? Not hard to predict that, ladies and gentlemen. It's okay though, the robots will take care of us. All right, we're gonna go to break and we're gonna come back with your phone calls. Oh, I guess they found the council scene where the humans don't run things, the robots run things. The council of AI. So we'll, oh, go ahead and roll it, as we go to break. in the case of the directorate versus captain buck rogers on charges of espionage and treason

2:24:27 Counselor Apo. The state's case is elemental. Captain Rogers piloted a foreign aircraft through our defense network with a microtransmitter revealing our secret shield borders to our enemies. What price, you may ask? What bounty would Captain Rogers consider just in selling out the human race? Only his pirate friends can answer. But I submit that in my opinion, it is the destruction of the treaty with Draconia that they seek at all costs. for its enactment spills their doom. The state rests its case. Hold on, I'm gonna come back and play the full thing and we'll add it in. It's not very long. This is actually the movie actually my dad took me to that when I was like seven or something. We'll be right back. This is a little piece of art, a really nice memento, and when you order for $100 an InfoWars

2:30:54 I don't believe it. And now of course the UK wants to replace judges and everybody and the lawyers, the barristers with AI. Fiction becomes reality. Tyranny becomes what is being served up on a steaming plate of death. Alright, let's go to your phone calls. Pete, thanks for holding. I didn't realize you were an ICE officer, Homeland Security. Sorry I didn't read that. Pete in Arizona, thanks for holding. You want to give your take on Antifa and Trump getting ready? He says he's done it. I don't disbelieve it. So we should see the executive order, I'm told, in about a week. Designated them as a domestic terror organization. What do you say, Pete, as an ICE officer? Homeland Security, we know, is heavily targeted by these people.

2:31:47 Hey, Alex. Thanks for letting me be on, long-time supporter. I'm actually retired now. But I wanted to say that during my over 20 years experience as a federal law enforcement officer, especially the last few years, there's a lot of people who work at ICE in the OPLA division, which is the lawyers that are tasked with defending the United States against aliens and prosecuting aliens. A lot of them are big time sympathetic toward antifa they attended rallies uh that antifa heavy infiltration of state local government colleges federal you name it you got it and when i worked at the uh as a task force officer um there were federal agents that told me to my face that antifa wasn't a thing and there's a group of people at uh at the fbi the uh the

2:32:34 Class of people that does all the research and stuff, the analysts, they are heavily anti-Trump and very sympathetic to... But you hit the key. They always say they're not organized, they don't exist, they're not command and control because then they can be listed as a terror group. They are 100% command and control. We have the documents. It's all come out. Absolutely, and I highly recommend Andy Ngo's book Antifa. It's a fantastic book. Definitely, and there's a contingent within Myron's group of HSI. HSI is mostly made up the leadership of former customs people and they hate immigration work. They feel it's beneath them. So those are likely the leaks of any ops for ICE because they don't want to be part of it. Yeah, and it's real simple. We're in a war.

2:33:34 And everybody should be checking these people's social media. And this is too dangerous. If they are pro and devo that is once it's designated terror group, we're gonna be able to purge every last one of them. And I can tell you- People in clearances left and right. Absolutely, because he's literally a people go like, you're for a police right now. No, no, they are declared communists that want to overthrow the country that say white people are inherently bad and who want to use violence and do to intimidate people into submission. Is that not the definition of terrorism, Pete? Absolutely, Alex, absolutely. Yeah, thank you, sir. Yeah, guys, we have a federal government and we have local law enforcement and laws for a reason. When they were training the military to take our guns, we knew about it from the military. They weren't going to do that. So they had a purge. It didn't work. But 100%, I think Trump's military and police response has been, if anything, anemic to the Podesta plan. This is a clear plan rolling out for civil war.

2:34:35 The answer is to indict the leadership of the Democratic Party and the NGOs who openly have been stealing money. It has to happen yesterday. Yeah, I mean, look at that on War Room, 2,000 views. That needs a million. I mean, it got like 400,000 on X. But let's make sure all those interviews, that was big interview yesterday. That guy is dialed in, man. Had concrete smashed over his head by these scum. John and they literally hunt him the effect. There's only one person Well, they call for Trump's death the most then it was Charlie Kirk has been their favorite chew toy the last six months But for at least four years, it's Andy. No, they he's coming. We had lunch stuff. He's great guy He's kind of shy though. The point is is that is that they mean business and they're very very prolific and very very dangerous John in New York are on the air. Go ahead

2:35:33 Hey Alex, how are you? Good brother, go ahead. You were talking about Charlie Kirk and Lucenz. Yeah, I uh, you know, the story is, it's very similar to Trump obviously. The guy's on the roof, there's nobody sitting on any of these roofs watching people, you know, and but in the Trump situation there was no Lucenz because the guy got shot. So we don't know what happened, you know, but with this situation He was on the roof. He was a weird guy who is into furries and things like that. He jumps off the roof. And we see all of it and I can see where the gun might be there when he jumps down. But my- Oh, everybody's saying it's not there. You can blow it up. He's got it on his side, looped over his shoulder. It's swinging. Looks like he's got three legs. Yeah. Yeah. Looks like he has a third leg, especially when that police cop, the college cop goes by and he's running, he starts- Oh yeah, people are deciding not to see things that are there. But

2:36:28 What about the letter to the boyfriend the text messages that sounds like chat GPT? It does now I've used chappy get chat GPT just as a joke to write scripts in 20 minutes I have like a movie yeah, and it's all I've had right I've had my crew or great riders the economy and I go chat GPT wrote this didn't they go how do you know I go come on go ahead weird guy okay, so so and he was in love with this person you know the furry person because the neighbors saw it so that's real so So I'm wondering if this is just Occam's razor, it is what it is. Because why would they not Epstein this guy? Why didn't he kill himself? Why A, didn't they shoot him on the roof or a cop got fined? Well sure, but larger, they were everywhere saying kill Charlie Kirk and then celebrating it. And then instead of going, look, the Democrats are celebrating it, they've already had a bunch of trans killers. We're just gonna go Netanyahu. It's, you know, because you don't say Netanyahu, you're not a good Nazi. And it just, it's crazy.

2:37:26 She's pushing a lot, but what I'm saying is just this. If it's Mossad or CIA, they are not going to leave a loose end like that. He's going to either get shot or he's going to kill himself. They learned after Lee Harvey Oswald, who they intended to kill, remember there was a cop looked like him so he got killed. They intended to kill Oswald. So you're right. You always kill the patsy. You gotta kill the past because now, like everyone who's been shot that's prominent, RFK, MLK, everybody said they were freaking pasty. So now, what's gonna happen with this guy? Because what was in it for him to go on the roof then? What's in it for him? Well, let me go further than I appreciate your call. And I'm not saying this, this is studying you and Cameron, Jolly and Wes, the classified MKUltra, MKNaomi program. You can do drugs and electroshock

2:38:16 And then they hook you up with a bunch of biofeedback and that's old technology and you can get highly suggestible, particularly autistic people to, to, to, and then they hit him with electroshock for like three minutes, depending on the power level until they stopped convulsing. And that guy ain't gonna remember anything that happened for six months before. And it's clear with big vape, they electroshocked him. That's a long story. Um, but Um, because he was like, I'm not bombing kids. I mean, we talked to the witnesses that were there at L. A. M city, uh, Carol, how all of them, he was like, we were supposed to build a fake bomb and bust these Nazis. He was Delta force. And he'd been sheep dipped into that. And then they, they said that it goes ahead. So they got pissed and then they, uh, well, it's a lot. I'm not gonna spend an hour on it, but the point is we know how they all did it. So Theodore Kaczynski was MK ultra people go really just it's LA times associated press. Yeah. Now he probably broke with it.

2:39:16 But he'd been in the mind control program, he was a volunteer. So you can give somebody amnesia drugs like Halcyon, that's what they used to give people when you were gonna have wisdom teeth taken, they still do it some. You can give somebody like a regular, small dose of Halcyon, they don't remember you just pulled out four of their teeth with pliers. They never remember, they just sit there smiling while you're doing it. Sirhan Sirhan got drugged by the woman in the polka dot dress right before. That was all witness, it turned out he didn't do the shooting. I mean this is, and that's old school stuff so,

2:39:55 I don't know. I don't know. But then you gotta ask who would do it. And sure, I mean, he was getting a big fracas with Israel. I just can't say Israel did it because, you know, people come out and say that with no evidence. It's retarded. Mark in California. Mark, you're on the air. Thanks for calling. Go ahead. Hi, Alex. God bless you. First time, long time. I am a young man from California, and there are actually, believe it or not, a lot of people like me. Hey brother, whenever I tell these stories when I go on a trip, it's not to act cool, go I'm popular. No, no, no. I've been so demonized by the corporate media. I got mobbed in DC, mobbed in Los Angeles, more than a town in West Texas where you'd think it's all my, I mean, I got, you saw live feeds if you saw them. Yeah, people are more awake than ever. So you're like, look, California is really red if you take out the illegal aliens. It's election fraud, bro. It's gerrymandering. We believe you.

2:40:56 Yeah, but so I was just calling in to say that I think that there is definitely a strong Mossad connection here. There just seems to be too many synchronicities that are in the video that just don't line up. Hold on a minute, hold on a minute, you can have him breaking with Israel, having big issues, criticizing. He told me that, he said it on air, he told Tucker, all that. Just because he's having a fight with Israel, how is it then if there were other people involved, what is the proof Israel did that? And I'm not trying to defend Israel. I just cannot... explain it to me. Maybe I'm wrong. Okay. So my thought is that, you know, what you were saying about MKUltra and, you know, electroshock therapy and stuff, and that is an old school way of doing it and we know that exists.

2:41:43 but I don't necessarily know if that's what they're doing now. I mean, a lot of these agents are in online spaces like 4chan or Reddit or, you know, darker stuff. And I think that they could convince somebody to do this think that they're doing it and when he picks up the rifle there's just blanks in it and then the kid... I one trillion percent agree with you. When I talk about MKUltra, I was just using one example. The way the modern stuff works is behavioral psychology, they're radicalized, they're being egged on and brainwashed in these groups that we know he was and and then and then they piggyback on top of that like crooks in Pennsylvania. I told... that's that's the modern way, yes.

2:42:23 Yeah, I think Crooks might have been an MK ultra thing considering the fact that you know there was nothing in the parents and in the house Yeah, it's got that just like the Batman shooter and Aurora was in a high-level government DARPA mind control program That's mainstream news by the way folks. I'm not kidding but again, I'm not not in the business of being Israel's apologists I'm also in the business of being accurate and Okay, could have been a setup, could have been a piggyback, but it's starting to look like that. What I'm asking you is, is how does that mean if there's anomalies and looks like there's a piggyback, then why is it Israel? Why not the Democrats that wanted to get rid of him because of all the millions voting for Trump and what he was doing? Or if you want to get really conspiratorial, maybe he was going to run for president. I heard other people didn't like it.

2:43:09 Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's very real possibility because one thing that I'm noticing is you know, I'm in my bit 20 I'm in California Like I said and one thing I'm starting to notice is that whether you're really far left like Antifa or you know You're somebody like me It seems that young people all around are starting to notice that Israel has a lot of its fingers and a lot of things and I and I know what you say about how you know You know, globalism as a term, it's meant to talk about these competing factions. And I totally agree with that. But it just seems like the one issue that's kind of uniting far left and far right in the youth of America. And I think by doing something like this, you know, now my far left friends are talking about the shooter.

2:43:55 And it's like, we should be talking about maybe something else here. I don't look at a topic and decide what do I want it to be? By the way, I don't want it to be anybody. It would be the Israelis or anybody doing this or the CIA or the left or anybody. So I just don't operate like that. I just can't sit there and say because he was having some arguments with Israel, I mean everybody is. Michael Savage is criticizing that. I mean, he's pro-Israel. Are they gonna kill Savage over that? I mean, maybe so. I hope not. But it becomes this thing of if it could be Israel, we must only talk about Israel all day.

2:44:38 You can cover what Israel's doing and be serious and deal with the problems of Israel trying to manipulate our internal operations and our foreign policy, but also address communist China and address the big central banks and address the fentanyl and address the TDA and the MS-13. I mean, my point is that you're right. So many people that weren't politically awake now have just gotten educated about Jewish power, Israeli power, Jewish mafia that I've been exposing forever. That's good. But I do it from an open heart of I'm not blaming all the Jews or something. I'm saying this is an issue. Israel attacked U.S.C. liberty, with the U.S. government to sink it and blame Egypt. They failed. And let's walk through this thing. And I'm like, hey, I'm not blaming everybody in Israel, but you know this went on and our government did this and I'll blame all Americans and Xi Jinping did that. I don't blame the Chinese people. I'm like trying to be Christ-like and just address facts

2:45:37 deal with it and I'm not mad when people call in and bring up Israel. See me disagreeing a little is not censoring you and I know you know that but I see the comments like oh he's censoring, no me having my views is not censoring him. So could have Israel been involved? Absolutely. Does Israel do stuff like this? You bet your butt. And I have all these guests on that talk about it. But I don't do it from, here's how I want to quantify it. The hatred of Israel and Jews is a religion. And the people that get into it, it's all they talk about, it's all they do, it's spiritual.

2:46:20 And then they connect things that aren't there all the time. I know because I get accused and so many people about me and these people laugh that they know it's all a lie. You let them in the building to come on, have a certain discussion. They'll lie later and say you censored them. They'll just lie and laugh at you because it's all about they're the pure ones, they're the good ones. So Netanyahu bad, Hitler bad. See, and that's Alex Jones' worldview. You think Hitler is great? You want to sit there and do that? Enjoy yourselves. I'm too informed. And not off corporate media or Hollywood crap. Hitler was a competing, tyrannical world government plan. I don't like authoritarianism. I don't like centralization. And whether it's the Democrats pushing hate speech laws, or whether it's Bondi, I'll come out against any of them. I'm an American. I like Thomas Jefferson. I like George Washington. I like Benjamin Franklin. I like Andrew Jackson.

2:47:22 I disagree with some things Abraham Lincoln did, but he believed he was doing well. Both the South and North were manipulated by British intelligence, but I admire Abraham Lincoln. I admire Teddy Roosevelt. Reagan had a lot of faults, but he lived in his time. He didn't have the information we have. I admire Ronald Reagan. I admire Richard Nixon more than Reagan. He really was for this country. He really tried to be the president. I admire President Trump. So, you know, it's people want to be tribal. So you got groups who think the Catholics run everything, groups who want to say the Jews run everything, and what you got is big powerful corrupt systems that work together at the top, they battle for full control, but in general, they're rolling out all this massive tyranny against humanity. It's that simple. And so anybody trying to bully you into only seeing the world through their lens is a cult.

2:48:16 And you got the white pill people say don't question anything out of the administration, it's all from Trump. No, it's not. That's why we get Trump to change policy all the time on the dime. Like the hate speech crap. I had a bunch of people going, oh, this is a 10D chess. You need to leave him, you're a traitor. Bondi's great. Yeah, see how long Bondi's there. You don't know Jack. You don't talk to the president. You don't talk to the DOJ. You sit there and pretend on a cue board you're at the galactic level communication. I'm Alex Jones, bitch. I made my bones when you were in diapers. You have no idea. This is the real world. That's why they want me off the air. This is professional. This is serious. This is really intellectual. This is it. And I'm not mad at you people that live in white pill or black pill world. It's just that you're babies and you're not sophisticated enough to really get informed and engage in the real animating concepts of liberty. I'm looking for men and women that are serious and want to actually get their shit together. It's going to take serious people to turn this around.

2:49:14 Not sunshine patriots and not black pilled quitters. Winners never quit folks and quitters never win. I reverse events Lombardi quote, pull the events Lombardi quote. And I'm not even bitching at people. I'm just, this is what I do. This is what I am. I eat, breathe, sleep, shit this information. I know how to move the needle. I've seen us move the needle. I know how the government works. I know how these systems work.

2:49:54 I knew more than most people 30 years ago. I know way more than I knew even a year ago. I'm exponentially needing more knowledge. And I'm trying to get you to see where I got the knowledge and how I got the knowledge so that you can have the knowledge so you can actually understand how it works. There's a lot of centralized evil and propaganda and dirty tricks, but it's falling apart. It doesn't have the power it used to have. It can't control the narratives anymore. We're gaining control of the narrative. They're not in total power. They're far from it now. They had to release a virus to try to shut us down and make us cower. That was their big plan in Disease X and the UN that I told you decades before they launched it, how they would launch it, because it's in the battle plan. Instead, Black Pillars take a 20-second clip of me saying, you'll be locked down six feet apart, no sporting events, make you wear a mask, a shot that destroys your immune system. And they go, he's one of them. That's how he knew this. They went and edited the clip where I showed you government documents where they said they would do it.

2:55:40 It is very healthy to question Israel. Israel is heavily involved in the deep state at every level. At the very top is the power system, extremely corrupt. And is absolutely a big, at the government level, a nest of globalist evil. Okay? He said that every day, it's true. My thing is, Israel is not its own power structure. It's all part of the larger system of the globalist system. Got the Chai Kom system and others. And there's a lot of other groups and people out there. And you got the whole Soros, Antifa and all that, and I assure you they're real. I don't know if this was all them alone. I'm just getting people like, you need to shut up and say it's not y'all. And I'm like, hey dude, I got Andy for coming to my house. So does the rest of my crew. I got them death threatening me on the street all the time. In fact, it's almost always them. It's not black people. It's not Hispanics, not old white people. It's not, no, it's them. So you go walk around and be me and you'll realize how big it is. You have them hit you over the head with something, then you'll know.

2:56:42 That's all I'm saying is, it's a real threat. Doug in South Carolina, you're on the air, go ahead. Mr. Jones, it is an absolute honor and pleasure to get to speak to you, sir. I drive a truck for a living, so I'm in South Carolina just by default today. I live over in West Georgia, but I grew up in Georgetown, Texas, and I've been listening to you since the late 90s and graduated from Round Rock High School. Spent 16 years in the Army as U.S. military police, so from one picture to another, thank you. Well, God, that's a nice area up in Georgetown. Boy, sure, back when you were there, it was nothing but farmland. It's big, big town now. Yes, sir. We lived out on the west side of 35. My daddy bought us a place out there, and it was nothing but cedar brush and rocks and rattlesnakes and scorpions. Oh, yeah. There's also some really cool caves over there.

2:57:42 Oh yes sir, yes sir. Matter of fact, my brother-in-law, he was one of the first, I think he was the first guy to go down into interspace cavern there in Georgetown. Well that's an amazing cave system. So what's your view on the left's violence and what's coming next? Well sir, I wanted to call basically because last night I found GoFundMe. There's a young lady in Scottsdale, Arizona. Her name is Kimberly Hunt. Alex, she has raised $75,000 coming out saying she got fired from her job because she was celebrating the murder assassination of Charlie Kirk and in the past couple of days she's raised $75,000 saying she was fired. I saw the story, I haven't verified it but I heard people called her work, she didn't lose her job.

2:58:33 She didn't lose her job. Wow. That's a first for me hearing that. Wow. Well, I saw somebody saying that and I'm not normally even I had two minutes to look at it, but I did see that. I'm not saying it's accurate. Well, I will say to everyone out there, everyone needs to lean on GoFundMe and tell them to look into this because if they're doing this, it's very, this is the suspicious part of me coming out and looking at this, Alex. She's in Scottsdale. Turning points right there. He's about to have the funeral Sunday. Yes, exactly. So that's what I'm going. Okay, what is going on? Let me ask you this though as a former military police guy. What do you make of the left? I mean, I've never seen them celebrate like this. This is like 50 times. It just it's everywhere that do they not know how evil this makes them look? It's demonic. Oh, it's absolutely demonic 100%

2:59:25 100% we're in a spiritual battle right now for this country's life and you and there's several other people, you know, Steve Bannon, everybody, we're all fighting for this country. I mean, you know, and everyone's just got to pray, pray and pray. I agree, but I'm pulling this up. It was the same person. Says fired from my job at her Nazis death. What a defamatory thing Even if it was a Nazi didn't deserve but he was the opposite of the Nazi man These people need to have their asses sued off man. I am telling you that is defamatory. God bless you, brother Take a few more calls and Jade Irish load from bear can't wait to hear what he has to say about all this He's a real expert

3:00:08 If you just joined us, we had a former 20-something year military police officer call in and say he noticed these groups raising money, claiming they've been fired from their jobs. A lot of evidence, a lot of them didn't lose their jobs, are doing all this in and around Phoenix where he's going to be having his, Charlie Kirk's going to be having his funeral Sunday. Hell, I didn't get to this, but Destiny, that scumbag piece of filth, celebrating Charlie's death and saying more Republicans need to die to intimidate us. That's terrorism. That's calling for terrorism. Elon Musk has called for his arrest. You got free speech, but you don't have saying we go out and target and kill people to silence them. That's racketeering. That's terrorism. That's terroristic threats. And I'm telling you, I just got a gut feeling that guy's not going to be too happy very soon. People are sick of this crap.

3:00:51 And he talks about how he stalked people and planned to kill them and their families and all this other stuff, tried to act all scary and tough, those little wild beady eyes reminds me of the serial killer in Dirty Harry. They have a tour where they were stalking Kirk around the country and all this crap. I mean, it's just disgusting. And they've taken our kindness for weakness and it's just not gonna go on forever. Not calling for any offensive violence against this guy. But I got a sneaking suspicion, he's already done a lot of stuff to be under investigation. I wonder what's on those hard drives. I got a real good feeling something tells me that'd be real informative. So obviously to me it looks like he's on methamphetamine. I'm not saying he is. He's a cowardly piece of filth. I challenge him to bare knuckles boxing match. No limit. He can wear brass knuckles. I'll go bare fisted. Did that a few days ago. I hadn't heard anything with the big tough man.

3:01:57 Brass knuckles punk. See how you do. Let's get in the ring right now. I'm an old man too son. You're gonna beat the hell out of me so easy with those brass knuckles. You're so tough, so mean, so strong. Look at those eyes. Thinks he's so powerful because he has delusions of what he can do to people. He has no idea. I'm so sick of cowards playing a man's world. Jonathan and New York are on the air. Go ahead. Hey, how's it going? I'm a long time listener. I'm from New York in the hellhole over here in the socialist capital of the world. Thanks for taking my call. The reason why I'm calling is I keep thinking that there's a little bit more to this Arctic frost along with Charlie Kirk's assassination than really being covered or even being thought about.

3:02:46 It's kind of coincidental. Remind me, that's an operation. What is Arctic Frost? I can't remember. Arctic Frost is the operation that just came out during the hearings for Patel just the other day that were given to Grassley. Yeah, this is the censorship of Republicans, the targeting by the FBI. Yeah. Well, talk about the ultimate censorship of putting a bullet in somebody. I mean, I do think that FBI works a little bit more with NSA, especially when they get these big operations. And I always felt that NSA has the dark corners of the internet in their grasp. And that's kind of how you fill Antifa and Trantifa, is with the dark corners of the internet in the public chat rooms, and then you send them over to the private. And that's how things get weird. Now, and then when you start thinking about George Zinn...

3:03:33 And then you think about earlier this year, how when Tulsi Gabbard came in, there was about how many a dozen NSA officials caught with like kiddie porn and like all this like crazy stuff. Oh, and it was hundreds in an NSA tranny death cult obsessed with chopping children's penises off. Right, right. And then, you know, the NGOs are the ones that are funding this. So the NSA is coordinating it, or at the very least understands and for the other 100 percent protecting them. Yes, and they've at the very least shot up the border patrol facility who killed the border agent who shot up the ice facility. It's them Absolutely, and that's how you got to trigger them You got to trigger them somehow just like John Lennon's killer was triggered by the catcher on the ride There's always a symbol or a bunch of more by the way John bounds already followed new report on Arctic frost I'm sorry. I knew what you were talking about is couldn't place at the moment. That's a really great call. I got a job I'm sorry. I made everybody hold all I ranted and talk about AI. I really dropped the ball such incredible callers I

3:04:28 I pledge I'm taking more calls. I pledge. Uh, Chris, we got Jadar waiting. Uh, Chris in California, you're on the air. Go ahead. Hi, Alex. Good. Go ahead. Um, Wyatt heard or seen a real on Instagram. Uh, I mean, I guess it just seems leftist. You're claiming that the Trump had appointed the head of the FCC. And so indirectly he's you know, taking down Jimmy Kimmel, like, by his words. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's not leftist lies. It's, it's, it's leftist spin. I said, you might've missed me earlier. I only pull up the stack here. Um, Kimmel was already going to get canceled. They all were, they have almost no viewers. The affiliates were already dumping it everywhere. It's owned by a bunch of different companies. You know, the network goes out, but it's, but there's different groups. Uh, and the two biggest ones were already dumping. So they dumped over that. And then Trump has been talking crap about the networks, lying about him.

3:03:33 And then you think about earlier this year, how when Tulsi Gabbard came in, there was about how many a dozen NSA officials caught with like kiddie porn and like all this like crazy stuff. Oh, and it was hundreds in an NSA tranny death cult obsessed with chopping children's penises off. Right, right. And then, you know, the NGOs are the ones that are funding this. So the NSA is coordinating it, or at the very least understands and for the other 100 percent protecting them. Yes, and they've at the very least shot up the border patrol facility who killed the border agent who shot up the ice facility. It's them Absolutely, and that's how you got to trigger them You got to trigger them somehow just like John Lennon's killer was triggered by the catcher on the ride There's always a symbol or a bunch of more by the way John bounds already followed new report on Arctic frost I'm sorry. I knew what you were talking about is couldn't place at the moment. That's a really great call. I got a job I'm sorry. I made everybody hold all I ranted and talk about AI. I really dropped the ball such incredible callers I

3:04:28 I pledge I'm taking more calls. I pledge. Uh, Chris, we got Jadar waiting. Uh, Chris in California, you're on the air. Go ahead. Hi, Alex. Good. Go ahead. Um, Wyatt heard or seen a real on Instagram. Uh, I mean, I guess it just seems leftist. You're claiming that the Trump had appointed the head of the FCC. And so indirectly he's you know, taking down Jimmy Kimmel, like, by his words. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's not leftist lies. It's, it's, it's leftist spin. I said, you might've missed me earlier. I only pull up the stack here. Um, Kimmel was already going to get canceled. They all were, they have almost no viewers. The affiliates were already dumping it everywhere. It's owned by a bunch of different companies. You know, the network goes out, but it's, but there's different groups. Uh, and the two biggest ones were already dumping. So they dumped over that. And then Trump has been talking crap about the networks, lying about him.

3:05:22 And saying the FCC should pull their license, which I think her speech is wrong. So he's running like he's had a victory and lets them spin it that he wants to censor. And so yeah, it's just stupid. Right, like you said, it's just the spin, you know, the narrative they're pushing. But Trump walked right into it. And look, look, look, look. The truth is we know this, the government, the FBI, the Democrats, the FCC were pressuring corporate media to take their licenses if they weren't anti-American. That's why the messages are all the same. It's why every Hollywood movie, the dad's a bad guy, the family's bad, that's all admitted. So Trump needs to address it like that. But instead he needs to be neutral and just say, we're not gonna tell you what to say,

3:06:05 So the left are the MVPs of censorship, and they have no place to talk. And Trump's good on some, but he's wrong, like Bondi with his hate speech crap. No, no, so it's actually true that Trump's FCC head, who I think is an overall good guy, spiked the football on this. But if you go look it up, it's because the affiliates, the two biggest ones, over half of the stations for the network dumped him that night. So that's why he's off the air, because the station said our phones are blowing off the wall. We're done. There was another thing if I may. I'm just something that really rang true. I just heard someone say this isn't Charlie Kirsh's assassination wasn't political. It was a religious assassination. Oh no, no, no, no. Oberman says it's because he wanted to show off for his girlfriend. Who had a dick.

3:06:56 Oh, I haven't heard about that, but that just really... No, that's the new talking point. It was about love. He was so sweet. He was protecting his little cupcake. I mean, to me, it's just all... I think my eyes are awakening like a spiritual warfare. And if you may touch on this... Oh, it's 100% spiritual warfare. You know what night gaunts are? I believe HP Lovecraft called him Night Gaunt. I haven't read Lovecraft in 30 years, 40 years, but I read The Color Out of Space or Color Out of Time. I did read some of his books when I was like 12 or something. It was pretty scary stuff. It's like a demon out of time, right? I mean, I don't know because I'm just personally I've experienced sleep paralysis.

3:07:40 And to me it seemed demonic. I mean, I don't know, I'm having flashbacks from a kid, when I was a kid, I'd wake up and I felt this intense pressure and I didn't know what it was. I was a kid, you know, like, oh that was a weird dream with a monster truck running over me. Yeah, it's a classic night terror, a demon sitting on your chest, right? Nowadays it's just, I don't know how to explain it, you know, it's just like I have sleep paralysis. There's something I just feel something dark, you know dark in the room. I can't control it or I can't well Just cry to the name of Jesus and believe it and it'll be fine. All right Listen, Jake Travis savage dog and Jared and Aaron. I will take calls Sunday night. So if you're around we'll call you then if not Monday if not, I'm sorry try to get everybody to the best I could

3:08:27 Jadar Jason Ellis is best-selling author total expert on the globalist goes right to their own sources He's got 45 minutes left and then the war room today hosted by the mighty Harrison Smith coming up today right here on the info Wars Network on everybody's sick of hearing about how we're under attack and all the things we survived everything else So I'm not gonna even tell you what they're trying to do next Thursday. We'll just see what happens. But when you go to the auctionstore.com, I don't own that, so they can't shut that down. That's funding the backup systems and the products are amazing, a huge sale going right now. So please take action. All right, Jay Dyer of Jay's Analysis, thanks for holding. He takes over now. Thank you, Alex. Glad to be back with you. I want to talk about the history of political assassinations from the vantage point of the global elite, not just the political assassinations, but the bigger picture and what the overall plan is, again, from the vantage point of the books that they write.

3:09:23 Of course, one of the key texts that you've heard me talk about that I heard Alex talk about many years ago is Bill Clinton's mentor at Georgetown, and that's Tragedy and Hope. Some years back, I did, oh, actually it's almost a decade on now. So it's a 10-year anniversary almost of reading through Tragedy and Hope and lecturing through the entire thing in about 16 hours worth of talks. You can find that on my YouTube channel. There's a whole playlist on the front of the channel. It's good to go back and review this and tie it into other texts as well. We're going to talk about the clergy plan. We're going to talk about the banking system that was set up according to Quigley and how this actually does tie into high profile political assassinations. And this, of course, is probably the most important high profile assassination since the late 60s with RFK.

3:10:11 and then of course JFK and others as well. And then there's appendix books that I think fill in the gaps since Tragedy and Hope and Anglo-American Establishment like Ioan Ratius' book, which does get into the power structure and the faction of Israel, Zionism, all of that that kind of is left off because Quigley was writing in the midst of the Cold War. This book was Printed in the 1960s, but it's a very valuable insight and every time I talk about this book I have to always explain I don't because people just are dumb and they don't read books anymore that I am not saying that it's true because Quigley says it I am not saying that he's a good man.

3:10:52 He is an apologist for the establishment perspective, and that's why the books are so valuable. Much like when we lecture through David Rockefeller's writings or when we lecture through HG Wells' books or Bertrand Russell's books or any of the elite, Jacques Attali, they all lay out what their plans are and they don't really have much shame in saying openly what the plan is. So let's go back to the beginning because, well, actually, let's start in the middle because there's an overlooked chapter that quickly talks about describing the banking system and structure that was set up after Bretton Woods, after World War I and World War II, that this same power structure set up. It is a fiat debt-based system.

3:11:41 and it has a name, it's called the Paribas system of the Rothschild banking family. In fact, this was the network of banking that was set up, according to Quigley on page 525, throughout Europe, particularly France and the Bank of England. That becomes the model for the US Federal Reserve Bank, and the chief economist behind all this is a guy you might have heard of named John Maynard Keynes. Keynesian economic theory, which is Fabian socialist economic theory. In fact, you may not have heard of this, but if you look at the party,

3:12:18 that Keir Starmer is a member of, he's a Fabian socialist. I just did an interview with a guy in the UK, it's going to come out I think today on X and then some other platforms of a activist kind of in the vein of Tommy Robinson, maybe a little more on the right. As we discuss the history of the Fabian society, its members, its backers, people like Lord Rothschild and others, which are mentioned in these texts as essentially funding this soft socialism or this soft communism. So it's communism allied with big capital and that's the key thing to understand the Paribas system. And he says the whole system of the 20th century was headed by Baron Edward de Rothschild. The active head however was Rene Meyer, manager of the Rothschild Bank. And he goes on to talk about this network, this system

3:13:12 had control of news agencies. Havas was a monopolistic news agency in France. He goes on to talk about all the other structures and networks that they had set up, and that ultimately this dealt with this Federal Reserve fiat type system. So let's go back then to the beginning of the text, and he talks about how the history of Western civilization particularly after the classical liberal reformation of the Enlightenment, ended up with a gold standard. The problem with the gold standard is not that gold is itself bad or anything like that. It ended up being the best standard for those times, for that period. Eventually, however, the printing of and the making of gold notes was centralized. It was centralized not in state power, but ultimately in private power.

3:14:08 So although gold was the best possible standard for Having a flourishing society for many centuries and we just recently on my channel lectured through Saifedean Amos's famous book the Bitcoin standard most of that book is a critique of Keynesian economics and Actually talking about the gold standard eventually however the gold center becomes centralized and it's centralized in an international ledger system that's modeled around this paribas system and the Bank for International Settlements system and But Quigley begins the book talking about that and that this is how the world is run and controlled by this network. And he even says, he even goes so far as to say that if you look at Britain, when Disraeli, for example, captured the Suez Canal, he did that at the behest and at the actions of the Rothschilds.

3:15:02 He says on page 133, Disraeli purchased with Rothschild money the Suez Canal for 3,680,000 pounds. So are you starting to realize that really the British Empire, I mean, there's definitely factions, it's not all one-sided, but as this family gains control and as they work together with their other relatives in the European banking structure, Carol quickly notes that they really do take power, they really do control these countries. And it's not just them, obviously, eventually there's an alliance between the American industrialist families like the Rockefellers, the Carnegies, the Morgans. They're all allied together. But you might not know or you might not recall or you might not have read that early on Quigley says that the danger that they saw at this time was two competing powers, the Austro-Hungarian Catholic power and Russia as the Orthodox power.

3:16:05 And these two powers needed to be destroyed and the way to do that was through World War. He doesn't outright say that the Lusitania was a false flag on page 251, but he hints at it because he says that there was a mysterious second explosion that sunk the ship. And of course this begins US involvement. And we also have the assassination, the high profile assassination of Gabriello Princip of the Sorbian Black Hand, which was a nationalist secret society, intent upon assassinating Archduke Franz Ferdinand. I'm not saying that he was a hero. I'm very much pro-Serb. A lot of my audience are awesome, based Serbs. But there can be political machinations and false flag events and these kinds of things that set off in Stoke

3:16:56 political violence or political sea change. And usually a high profile assassination is intended to do that. It might not always work in the favor of those trying to set it off. And again, I don't exactly know what the real story is. We always know that when there's a big high profile assassination, of course, everyone will question it nowadays, which is a good thing because they used to not question these things. They just accepted the CIA's creation of conspiracy theory out of the JFK assassination as a dogma that you must accept. if you dare to question that you're a bad person. And we know that through the JFK documents that did come out, much of them were censored and blacked out, of course. But we did see some inklings that through James Jesus Angleton, he was definitely providing a lot of this information and info to Israel. So there is an Israeli involvement without question, especially through the Israelophile James Jesus Angleton.

3:17:52 Angleton explicitly has said in the documents to be passing secrets to Israel. There's the Dimona program, which was a big part of this perhaps. JFK seemed to be opposed to that. And so there was a motive there at least in terms of opposition on the part of Israel to the Kennedys. We don't know if exactly that's why it went down. There were other players involved as well. There's the mafia. There's also the Jewish mafia. There's also Cuban exiles. Many of these networks and figures seem to play a key role. at some degree in what happened with JFK. But to go back to the issue of World War I and the banking elites and Gabriella Prinschaf and the Black Hand and these secret societies and whatnot, again, this is par for the course. I'm not saying that Charlie, I think Charlie Kirk was a righteous man who died for a wicked cause, or excuse me, at the hand of wicked people. So I'm not

3:18:48 demoting or denigrating the power and the value of it. But I'm noting that in history, this happens pretty frequently. And somebody was saying, oh, this is America has a history of violence. Every nation has a history of violence when it comes to political elites, political assassinations. There was just a assassination of the Japanese politician Shinzo Abe not too long ago. There was Benazir Bhutto being assassinated some years back. So political assassinations happen everywhere all over the world. If you read history, and if you read geopolitical history, this is normal in the big picture. Again, I'm not saying it's good, it's terrible, it's a tragedy. But this happens, and the reason I say that is usually when this happens, it is for some bigger power players

3:19:36 purpose. We don't know exactly who was involved. I'm aware of all the data about Charlie Kirk report reportedly refusing millions of dollars from Israeli donors and whatnot. I'm familiar with all of this. We don't know exactly if that's any proof that that's who was involved. It could be again, we're looking at possible motives. Is there a possible other shooter? It's possible. But the other thing, if you go back to 9-11, a lot of times people get lost in the detail. I'm not saying people can't investigate the detail, but people get lost in the details and they forget the big picture and who actually had motives. They forget the PNAC documents. They forget Brzezinski's grand chess board, which talked about these types of things ahead of time. And those are, I think, the big things to keep in mind rather than getting sort of lost in analyzing every little detail, every little

3:20:29 A.I. clip that pops up on Twitter and you know with a it's going to get harder and harder to analyze these events with manipulation of the imagery so what I can say is that zooming out we know that there is a power structure in the West. There is an Israeli faction to it there is a growing. Technocratic leftist insane faction so there's these different factions and they're all working towards a similar type of agenda of a one world government with some type of centralized religious and state power that can then dictate life and death so whether you're a

3:21:09 rabbinical minded person who believes that the Talmud teaches that everyone else is, you know, cattle and that you should, you know, subjugate them or whether you're George Bernard Shaw and you believe that the technocratic elite are superior and everybody must come to you as George Bernard Shaw, the socialist, to decide whether or not they get to live or not. That's an actual quote. He says, in the technocracy, you will come to us to convince us why we should let you live and whether you are advantageous to the state. If you're in 1984, that's who George Orwell is picturing. That's who he's talking about is people like Shaw and Ingsoc is English Fabian socialism. Isn't it interesting that with Keir Starmer, with the socialist collapse of the UK that we're seeing,

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3:24:14 That the unfortunate event with Charlie Kirk is probably the most high profile one since the late 60s. And what place do these events play in the bigger picture? I think the intention, again, judging by what we do know in regard to this being the trans shooter and all of that... as far as we know so far, that seems to back up the idea that the left believes perhaps that this would be a catalyst for kicking off or triggering more radical social violence from their perspective, from their side. And Alex is absolutely right. When you get out in the wild, when you go to political conventions, when you see people out there protesting, whatever,

3:25:00 You really will encounter these sort of demonically possessed leftists. They do exist. They're out there and they're unhinged. And you know, there's all these groups that we've discussed when we interviewed BX even here on the fourth hour of the Australian show. The 764, the calm groups, the satanic online trans groups, these networks. These are also real. You even had Kash Patel mention these, I think in one of his discussions before. So, you know, the FBI is even aware of these things. And again, who exactly is running all these things and provoking these things is unclear, but that's definitely a pool from which one could easily draw.

3:25:39 a the slow boy, the retarded individual that was supposed to be a communist. I'm not pro-communist at all. Again, this whole lecture is against socialism. But again, it's a very common tactic in politics, not just a false flag, but high profile assassinations are common. I mean, even in the case of Hitler, there was Operation Valkyrie, right?

3:26:21 account what was the name Stoltenberg. So this happens all the time again in politics, high profile geopolitical stuff and it's not difficult to find idealized or indoctrinated, you know, overly ideological individuals who are willing to do these kinds of actions that they think because they're usually not very smart, they think is going to trigger some world-changing events. Usually, it's a person with a delusion that believes that their action will magically change the world or will trigger some some big revolution. But as I said, I think that in this case, it's actually working more so on the part of waking people up to the reality of how vicious and radicalized the left has become. And that was not a wise move. If that was the intention was to trigger copycats on the part of the left, that's not going to work. This has definitely made people, I think,

3:27:24 Awake even more so to how radical the left actually is and people on our side of things Alex and others We've actually been saying I mean what people are waking up to we should have woken up to this 10 15 years ago You're talking about people who were willing to not just get you fired or canceled or whatever But I mean they were hitting people with bike locks at Gavin McInnes's MAGA stuff 10 years ago They were violent 10 years ago So they're not gonna stop being violent. You're not gonna reason with demonic possessed people.

3:28:01 They've already surrendered the use of their reason. That's why we talked about last time, those who are sons of Belial, right? They're wicked, worthless persons, as the Old Testament says. Now, they can still be saved, but the more wicked you get, the more vile you get, the less likely you are to repent. And usually it takes some kind of serious type of event for a person that advanced in wickedness to actually repent. Again, we don't know the ways of grace and so forth, but that's why the death penalty was always there in Western civilization was there was a recognition of the reality of not just evil, but excessively evil and vile people. They're a danger to themselves and to society, and that's why there was a much broader use of the death penalty. Again, it's in Romans 13.

3:28:53 I'm not saying we worship the state, I'm just saying that the death penalty is very clearly elucidated there. And most people don't know that the church fathers and throughout the history of Christian civilization, most Christian countries, nations, kings had the death penalty, especially for vile and heinous actions. And it's not just a deterrent, it's also an inducement that those people will That's the last medicine that that kind of a person could have to induce repentance is something that severe. And that's why, again, even if you haven't read the book of Genesis, I mean, Jesus is the one speaking to Noah, right? Jesus is the God of the Old Testament. Jesus is the one that gave the death penalty to Noah. Maybe you've forgotten Genesis, but if you believe the book of Genesis, then that's the revelation that we have.

3:29:43 So, it's not antithetical to what Jesus teaches. Jesus is the one that taught Paul in Romans 13 that the state has the right of the sword. 1 Timothy 1, Paul talks about the state has this authority to deter evildoers. So, it's not an Orthodox Christian or a historic Christian position to think in these Radical sort of Anabaptist types of views. That's what we talked about last time. But to get back to the 20th century, when we look at the survey of the geopolitical landscape and the type of world that the elites want to bring in.

3:30:21 that's mentioned multiple times in the text, this is not a competing story or narrative to what the Zionist vision of the world is. In other words, if we look at what Moses Hess talks about as one of the key founders of modern political Zionism, he talks about the fact that he has this idea that he and others that the Freemasonic lodges will be the means by which the world's religions will be brought into a single cult. And this single cult will eventually work at the behest of fostering a single religious center in Jerusalem. So it's almost like the world religions will continue sort of being pseudo religions or covers or fronts, but they're really be working at the behest of some supra religion controlling things in Jerusalem.

3:31:20 He then goes on to talk about the fact that in his day, this is in the 1860s, he says he's already met with the Rothschilds who intend to eventually purchase the Holy Land and return it to Jewish ownership and Jewish power to bring about the advent of the Mashiach, the Messiah, that is for the Jews. So, this isn't me, this isn't a anti-semitic conspiracy theorist. This is a very famous book written by Moses S. It's called The Revival of Israel, Rome and Jerusalem. And it was written not after 1917, the Balfour Declaration, not after 1948. It was written in 1862. Okay? So it's time to stop being ignorant and stupid and unaware of the actual history and what people themselves write about. In fact, he says that the world religion that's coming

3:32:22 is a world religion of socialism. He says it's dialectics and the movement of eternal matter. And he says in his mind that Jews will save the world through worshipping the Jewish race and the Jewish dialectical materials religion. Now, I'm not saying that's the case. He says that the God of this religion is a relativistic, subjectivistic, pantheistic deity. And he says if you want to understand my theology, it's Hegel and Spinoza. I'm not saying that every Jew believes that or that every Jewish is an atheist, Zionistic,

3:32:58 Spinoza is, do you understand that there's other positions? I'm aware of all that. I'm just pointing out that one of the most important founders of political Zionism himself says that in his book. Now, is that antithetical to what I read in the Fabian Socialists like George Bernard Shaw or Sidney Webb or David Rockefeller himself, a almost Fabian Socialist? No, it's the same type of ideology. there might be a little bit of a twist over here that, oh no, it's going to be Spinoza, Hegel, Karl Marx, dialectical socialist materialism, that is the world religion that we all worship. No, no, no, it's going to be the super state itself, right? So in other words, if you read Brave New World, it's not antithetical to what you just read there. It's essentially the same overall plan.

3:33:46 And I've said this forever, so I don't know why people get hung up on, oh, you won't talk about this, you won't talk about that. I mean, we're literally talking about the BIS system right here. Quigley has entire chapters talking about the Bank for International Settlement System is the global Federal Reserve, and that's pages 324 and 325 in his magisterial tragedy. Now maybe you say, I don't have time to read these giant boring books. I don't blame you. That's why I did your homework for you. I actually went and read this extremely boring text. It's not even as boring as other texts. I mean, it's actually readable in the sense like there's a lot of fascinating history in it. So if you're a history buff, you could make your way through it. But I mean, it is this 1300 pages and no one else has done this. Okay, now shout out to Richard Grove. I mean, he talks about the book a lot, so he's probably the closest to what we do in terms of this type of approach.

3:34:44 There's literally no one else out there has lectured through this text in all 1300 pages. I did it for you 10 years ago. Almost nobody out there has actually listened to those lectures, at least as far as I can tell. I know Alex was way earlier than me in terms of being familiar with this stuff. But this book literally tells you everything. I mean, the entire 20th century from the vantage point of the global elite, it tells you all of it. And when you see it from their perspective, you begin to say, oh, now I understand why there is a pirate boss Rothschild system that is the banking system of the whole world. That's the BIS, Federal Reserve for the whole world. Oh, I understand why the New Deal was a socialist Fabian attack on America that wasn't FDR being a good guy saving her, but it was actually a banker scam. The New Deal is a banker scam, pages 534 and 535.

3:35:36 Now again, Quigley is not a good man. He's a defender of this. He says this is the best hope that we have to end world wars is global democratic monopoly capitalism is essentially what he says. But I want to take issue again, I know Alex is a big proponent of being a classical liberal, But Quigley does say that classical liberalism was essentially the economic theory of the banking elite. That is the perspective that they had at that time, and that's what allowed for the gold standard, which was good for that time. But once the elite concentrate all the control of the gold, and they print the gold notes, just going back to a gold center is not going to do it. If the Queen of England and Lord Rothschild control the gold, then what's the point of a gold center?

3:36:28 I mean, it's not that hard to figure out, right? But in principle, yes, the gold standard was way better than the other stuff. That's what we saw in the Saifedean book that we lectured through. But now we're talking about a global system of a dollar-backed gold, a gold-backed dollar that then removes itself from gold in 1971. And now it becomes fiat. And now we're in this disaster of money printing, black hole, spiraling debt, which can't be solved. Even Elon in a recent clip admitted that if you understand that we can't even pay the interest on this debt, and by the way, who's it to? Well, it's to the people I'm talking about. It's to the international private banking elite. That's where all the debt is owed.

3:37:16 It can never be paid back. And what happens is there's a boom-bust cycle. And Quigley talks about this boom-bust cycle in the FDR chapters, and he says that the purpose of the boom-bust cycle, he kind of hints at this, he doesn't explicitly say it, but he says basically it seems to be to put the future generations into debt. So you have a boom that happens. There's a bubble. The bubble pops. There's a massive amount of debt that can't be paid. And then the banking elite come in and say, we will bail you out this decade, but you're going to owe us a giant bunch of debt in the next decade. So it's putting the future generations into debt in a

3:37:59 seemingly structured boom bust cycle. How controlled it is is up for debate, but it seems like they already figured out a long time ago that you could gain the boom bust cycle system and not just benefit from it in a monetary way because they print the money. They don't need the fiat dollars. The fiat dollars are a tool to gain actual assets. So Laissez-faire liberal economic theory, according to Quigley, was the older strategy of the power elite, the banking elite. That has now caved to what he talks about on pages 550 and 551, the third wave system. Now again, he was writing this back decades ago, and he was the mentor to Bill Clinton, and Bill Clinton and Tony Blair had a third wave view

3:38:51 of combining capitalism with socialism out of the dialectic, perhaps even of the Cold War. What's the dialectical synthesis that we can get out of Eastern communism and Western capitalism? Oh, well, turns out, page 552, 53, it's large-scale state technocracy for every state. China is a perfect example of this. Right? And then he ends that chapter by saying, well, what's the key issue that the global technocratic government will have to deal with, page 554, 55, overpopulation. So again, don't be stupid. I'm not saying Quigley is a good person exposing the conspiracy. No, he's a defender of, he's Bill Clinton's mentor, duh.

3:39:39 So we talk about the liberal world order, he says, the liberal world order, neoliberalism is an economic theory. It's neoliberal is economics that is laissez-faire classical, that is classical liberalism. Rejecting the classical Christian worldview of firewalls, nation states, boundaries, and even things like tariffs. Tariffs were an old strategy that even the kings used to do to keep from cheap labor coming in and destroying the people in your kingdom because they could price gouge and do the labor for much cheaper because they were very poor. They would do it for half price. And so the cobbler who charges two gold coins, right, would be put out of business because the Asian cobbler who comes in does it for one gold coin. That's right.

3:40:34 Having immigration control and having tariffs and blocks on these, that was to protect the people. Laissez-faire liberal economic theory, which comes out of people like Locke and Ricardo and Adam Smith and all these kinds of characters, and I'm not saying that they're wrong in every point that they had, but... Part of the problem was that they are part of the revolutionary ethos and Quigley explicitly says the French Revolution was funded by Protestant and Jewish banking elites. Why? Why would they fund this? Because they wanted to remove the existing power structure of throne and altar, particularly in this case France. The French Revolution is funded by Protestant Swiss and Jewish banking houses.

3:41:20 to change the landscape of France. To what? To the French revolutionary, atheistic, secular government removing God from society. Again, I've had multiple grad classes on French Revolution taught by guys who actually weren't even liberal. The one conservative professor I had was teaching French revolutionary grad and undergrad classes. And so we went really deep, way deeper than I ever even wanted to go into the history of the French Revolution. and you have a right wing and left wing of the French Revolutionary Provisional Government, the Jacobins and the Garondins. The Garondins were also revolutionary, and I'm not saying that they weren't good in some aspects. The founding fathers, very much influenced by the Garondins, a lot of good things, a lot of good principles, but there is still this Freemasonic Enlightenment deistic idea coming out of the Enlightenment, coming out of the Second World Revolution,

3:42:13 that you can have world governance that's positive and will work through free trade and economic liberalism. And I don't think that makes any sense. So that's my main critique. If you read, for example, Immanuel Kant's Enlightenment essay on free trade and global government, he says, oh, if we just have everybody having free exchange, then we won't have world wars anymore. It's just so naive, as if world wars are just all about economic theory and not about human avarice and wickedness. So it's a false analysis. It's a false anthropology. It doesn't take into account that, well, human beings don't just act on the basis of economic choices. They also act on the basis of irrational evil

3:43:03 motivations and decisions. So enlightenment economic and anthropological theory is based on man not being fallen. It's based on a Pelagian view of man as a interchangeable economic unit that is a blank slate. Well, guess what? Ever since the last 100 years or so of genetic theory, and a lot of prominent famous geneticists, we know now that the enlightenment theory that mans a tabula rasa is false. You are actually imprinted with characteristics from your parents and from genetic ancestor memories. Well, that means then that you're not a blank slate when you're born. And that means that you don't just imprint on people the external stimuli, they actually have an internal component to them that's already part of them.

3:43:57 So the Enlightenment anthropology is just not true. Even the Darwinian people who I disagree with have shown and don't believe this Enlightenment tabula rasa view anymore. Otherwise, they didn't have genetics back then. That's the point. So if genetics is true, then we know that the Enlightenment tabula rasa view is false. Well, guess what? The Enlightenment tabula rasa view is what underlies all of the Enlightenment theorists about world government and economics. And yes, they believed in world government. Immanuel Kant has an entire essay on world government. The new world order, which he says will be a utopian free exchange, free trade world order.

3:44:40 Von Hayek in the appendix to Roe v. Serfdom says the exact same thing. He says we'll have world government and an international world policing body to worship free trade, basically. I mean, I'm joking when he says worship, but he says that we'll get world peace through free trade. This is just so naive and it's just so silly to think that, especially after we see all of these demonic Antifa people, I mean, this is the end result of a century, centuries of enlightenment liberalism is just classical liberalism leads you to nihilism because there's nothing to ground it in other than what natural law, natural rights, natural ethics. Well, when you look at nature, you see predators and prey. So without the theological basis, it's just power struggles. It's just Nietzschean dominance. It's just predator and prey.

3:45:31 If it's just predator and prey, then there's nothing wrong with what the insane Antifa people do. Or, there is a God, there is truth, there is a church, there is right and wrong, and we're not born as Enlightenment tabula rasa blank slates. We have souls. So you understand that like right from the outset, if you believe in the fall and that man fell, that's going to affect the rest of your anthropology. You're not going to have unrealistic expectations about, well, I guess if we can just, like there was a rapper who was strangling a white girl on one of his rap videos in Europe. And it was a symbolic doll that is supposed to be looking like a realistic white girl doll, right? Well, did he not read the Federalist Papers? I mean, do we not accurately instruct him in

3:46:22 in the nuances of Jeffersonian theory, like constitutional law, like did he not take enough constitutional law classes or are some people just savages? Some people are just acting out of demonic, savage, instinctual behavior. And you're probably not going to convince all the world to accept constitutional democratic republics. You're probably not going to get people in Pakistan and Afghanistan to accept total equality of the sexes and women's rights. It's probably not going to happen. It's unrealistic. But the enlightenment attitude of everybody has the same nature because we're all men, yeah, but we're not all created equal. So even in the founding documents, which is all coming out of John Locke, by the way, men are not created, they're equal before the law, but they're not ontologically and physically equal. So it's not true.

3:47:19 Well, where did that come from? It comes from John Locke. Well, where did John Locke get it? Well, he's an Enlightenment philosopher who believed in tabula rasa, blank slate. We're all just these pieces of putty and we're all molded by external stimuli. That is the Enlightenment perspective. Well, guess what? Genetics has just proven that. So why are we still arguing and promoting theories of anthropology that are like 200 years old, 300 years old, that are outdated and false? We're in a post-genetics world where we know that that's not true. Now, I'm not saying that we need to have eugenics and a eugenics super state regime. I'm not saying any of that. I'm saying, well, we need Christianity. We need traditional classical Orthodox Christianity. It's the only thing that has the provisions, the stipulations, the sacraments, the philosophy of church and state, the ethics, the rule of law, all those things come out of Christian tradition.