Monday, 3 January 2022

Big Tech Silences Top Scientists As COVID Narrative Collapses In Real Time - FULL SHOW - 01-02-2022

A leading vaccine architect joins forces with independent journalists to dismantle the psychological operations and corporate media blackouts defining the global pandemic response.

By The Alex Jones Show | 1h 31m listen | 25 chapters
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About this episode

Dr. Robert Malone and guest host Christy Lee break down the globalist architecture of the Great Reset following Malone’s viral appearance on the Joe Rogan Experience. Malone details how the World Economic Forum and the Trusted News Initiative coordinate to deplatform dissenters and enforce a singular medical narrative. The discussion centers on the psychological phenomenon of mass formation psychosis and the subsequent efforts by Google and YouTube to manipulate search results and censor scientific experts.

Secondary reports highlight the legal and political fallout of federal overreach as U.S. District Judge Terry Doty blocks vaccine mandates for the Head Start program across 24 states. Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene faces a permanent Twitter suspension, illustrating a perceived double standard in Big Tech moderation policies. Former Seattle news anchor Alison Morrow joins the program to expose the internal pressures within corporate newsrooms that prevent journalists from investigating Big Pharma conflicts of interest or vaccine safety data. Additional coverage includes the Reuters fact-checking apparatus, the CDC admission regarding cloth mask ineffectiveness, and the violent police response to anti-lockdown protesters in Amsterdam.

Christy Lee frames the escalating information warfare as a spiritual battle, drawing on her background in local news to identify Orwellian shifts in social media censorship. The program concludes with a critique of CNN’s New Year’s Eve broadcast, where Andy Cohen’s viral rant against Mayor Bill de Blasio serves as a rare moment of mainstream transparency. Dr. Robert Malone reflects on his own transition from a high-level medical insider to a leader in the global resistance movement.


CHAPTER 01 / 25 Discussion

Alex Jones Introduction, Dr. Robert Malone Joe Rogan Interview

Alex Jones introduces a special Sunday broadcast on January 2, 2022, highlighting the viral interview between Dr. Robert Malone and Joe Rogan. Jones claims Malone is "red-pilled" regarding a globalist takeover and the Great Reset agenda. Guest host Christy Lee is introduced to present her own in-depth interview with Malone conducted in Austin, Texas.

alex jones· robert malone· joe rogan· mRNA technology· great reset· austin texas

00:05 Well, here we are, ladies and gentlemen, in the year 2022. It is Sunday, January 2nd, 2022. And we're going to be live here for the next four hours on this very special Sunday night transmission. Dr. Robert Malone, the inventor of mRNA technology and the holder of literally dozens of top patents, has been involved at the highest levels of big pharma and government in previous drug and vaccine approval. has given a stunning three hour interview with Joe Rogan that has gone mega viral and is really waking people up. And the day after Joe interviewed Robert Malone while he was in town, our own Christy Lee interviewed him in an in-depth hour plus interview that is now at Bandot Video. So today, even though I'm right here in Austin, Texas and ready to go on, I asked her to come in and host the special edition

01:06 of the Sunday show. Then Harrison Smith comes in with Sunday Live at 6pm. He's got a lot of huge news as well that he actually broke. But this Robert Malone interview is so huge. And he also said some things on the Joe Rogan podcast that he didn't say to Christie Lee, but he said a lot of stuff he didn't say on the huge Rogan podcast that he did say to Christie Lee. And that's why this is so important. He talked about being multi-dimensionally aware of their multi-faceted globalist great reset takeover and how he sees how all the pieces come together for the cashless society, the global medical ID, all of it. He talked about being red-pilled to the fact that this is a dimensional attack. And that's something Elon Musk has talked about. That's something I've been talking about.

01:52 Obviously from the very beginning of being on air because that's what the globalists are aware of. This is very important information. And also Dr. Peter McCullough was in the studio with me for over two hours Friday. Did an incredible job. That's posted to Bandai Video. I'll be playing excerpts tomorrow on my weekday show. But this is such a huge interview. The things he talked about are so incredibly important. I wanted to air it tonight here on the Sunday broadcast. And I wanted to ask you all to share the live links and to share the interview because people are really hungry for the truth. And as I've said a thousand times, a thousand times conservatively in the last couple of years,

02:31 If we do not expose the globalist Great Reset Build Back Better agenda, that it's a planetary corporate authoritarian takeover, then we have no chance of defeating any of their systems. There's a global awakening that it's corporate fascist systems using liberalism and wokeism as political correct speech control. And we realize that they are openly bringing in to our world the cashless society social credit score system through our phones and then through implantable chips. It's all been announced by Klaus Schwab. If we come together and have an epiphany that they are designing a system to cut off resources

03:10 to bring humanity to its knees and force depopulation and war, if we have that epiphany, it's game over. And I gotta tell you, all of the top scientists and doctors and people we talked to on air, and yes, some of the other huge names, you know who they are folks. One of the names out there is a very well-known individual who had a uncle that was president of United States. He is getting more and more hardcore. and understands exactly what is happening and we now have a very very very good shot of stopping the globalists. This is so exciting and I'm so proud of all you and I want to thank you for your past support because literally you are owed the thanks and the credit for the fact that we've got any hope of beating this. We've got more than hope, we've got a damn good chance because the globalists can only carry this out if people aren't aware of what's really happening. So

04:08 This is so critical. Red-pilled Dr. Robert Malone. Talk about the great reset, the New World Order, the endgame. And all the other scientists I talked to, they've known for over a year that's what's happening. They've concurred with my analysis. They've just been scared. But Malone isn't scared. Their attempt to silence him, their attempt to censor him has blown up in their face. and now humanity is awakening. The answer to the Great Reset is the Great Awakening. The answer to the New World Order, built back better, is the new renaissance. Infowars.com, tomorrow's news today. We'll go to break, and then Christy Lee takes over with powerful excerpts from the interview, a lot of breaking news.

04:44 And so much more today than Harrison Smith tonight who broke the fact that they're denying white people monoclonal antibodies. That's not confirmed. Mainstream News has new breaking info coming up as well. So stay with us and share those live links. God bless and good luck. It's Sunday, January 2nd, 2022. This is a special edition of the Alex Jones Show with investigative journalist, Christy Lee. We now take you live to the Central Texas Command Center in the heart of the resistance with massive breaking news and information. Wow, what an introduction. That is great. Tomorrow's news today is how this starts out and isn't that the truth? We're seeing that over and over again. We're seeing news predicted and then coming true and it's all starting here and then the mainstream news is catching up and I should know as spending multiple years, 20 years in traditional news journalism before being able to escape to a place of truth and that is my motto for 2022 is that

CHAPTER 02 / 25 Discussion

Robert Malone, World Economic Forum Globalist Vision

Dr. Robert Malone describes his personal journey from skepticism to believing the Great Reset is a documented globalist reality. He cites World Economic Forum (WEF) policy maps as evidence of a coordinated totalitarian vision that renders national sovereignty irrelevant. Malone argues that the COVID-19 vaccine is merely a symptom of a much larger effort toward global information and financial control.

robert malone· world economic forum· klaus schwab· great reset· transnationalism

05:49 What is true will come out in 2022. And that is the hope and the prayer and what a journey it's been. It's been a wild ride. We're going to be showing you clips of of the interview with Dr Malone that we had right after Joe Rogan. Again, what a wild ride. Couldn't believe that that'll happen. We'll be showing you clips of that, have a lot of other news to share, hopefully talking to another fighter, the OG of Independent News, maybe in the next hour. But we're going to get to that in just a moment. But here's the thing. Maybe some people haven't quite caught on to or aren't willing to dedicate three hours to watching the Joe Rogan and Dr. Malone interview even though they should because it's all fascinating and I mean I had to do it while doing other things but I did get through a whole three hours maybe they don't have time necessarily for the hour plus but maybe they do have time for about 15 minutes and once they get a taste of

06:43 what was said by Dr. Malone, maybe they will then dedicate the time to listen to the full three hours or the hour and 15 minutes that was broadcast that I had with him here in studio at InfoWars. So we want to encourage you to share the highlights version if people just aren't willing to sit and listen for the extended versions just yet. We wanna make sure that you share this video and without further ado, let's play the first half of this video so you know what you can put out there for your friends and family. It's been a series of epiphanies that have made me realize that there's no upside to just being circumspect and trying to be a nice guy in this environment. This is full on media warfare, information warfare, political warfare, 21st century, like we've never seen before, and coordinated globally.

07:40 The other thing for me has been the personal journey of coming to terms with what the World Economic Forum really represents. And I really resisted that. People initially were coming to me talking about the Great Reset. I was like, oh, this is crazy talk. You know? That sounds like a conspiracy theory. It sure sounds like a conspiracy theory. You are out of order. Yeah. Great reset. Yeah, but then it's all documented. And then you see it being deployed. And a group of Canadians on a podcast the other day sent me some links from WEF.

08:21 to a site, this is one of the last things I tweeted before, and it had an extremely detailed map. of all of the policy positions and the actions that the WEF was taking for a huge range of topics, not least of which is COVID-19. And it's kind of a, it's a public document that clearly states everybody that's in our little clique, in our club, These are the things that we will think, these are the things that we will say, this is how we will act. And that one was kind of like the icing on the cake. That was, that was a, oh, here it is. You know, this is, they're proud of it. They don't hide it. This is, this is the vision. It is a full-on globalist totalitarian vision with the money in control. And, and the whole,

09:20 I did a lot of political science when I was an undergraduate in the early 80s, and I had read things like about books about transnationalism in the New World Order. I found that fascinating but confusing. How could this possibly happen? And now to see it playing out in real time and in a way in which national sovereignty governments are increasingly irrelevant. Yeah, that's the thing that folks got to wake up about. This is not about the vaccine. The vaccine is a symptom. It's much bigger. And that's a really hopeful message going into the new year is that there's a growing cohort of people that are increasingly aware of how thoroughly we've been manipulated. So you'd say you've been red-pilled?

CHAPTER 03 / 25 Discussion

Robert Malone, Trusted News Initiative and Media Warfare

Dr. Robert Malone discusses the "Trusted News Initiative" as a global ministry of truth used to coordinate information control and deplatform dissenters. He mentions Alex Berenson's lawsuit against Twitter and his own experience meeting with Senator Ron Johnson. Malone reflects on how his treatment by the media has changed his perspective on other marginalized figures like Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Alex Jones.

robert malone· trusted news initiative· anthony fauci· alex berenson· ron johnson

10:21 Uh, in like multi-dimensional red pill. It's, it's, you know, it's, it's, uh, I thought I was red pilled. You know, I, I, I, I've been on the inside for so long and seen Tony Fauci's machinations for so long. It's how I, you know, I, my, that's my origin story was the initial AIDS crisis starting in 83. when I was at Davis. And so I saw the hardball politics. It's not that I haven't been aware of that, but I had not been aware before of the information control that is globally coordinated. I mean, the Trusted News Initiative is profound. What that means, that has become the ministry of truth, full on. And what Twitter's doing right now,

11:18 I think, you know, with Alex Berenson's bold and brave lawsuit, taking on Twitter, and then I've had a bunch of lawyers come to me because of getting deplatformed or cancelled, I think is really the right term. I think that we may, certainly people can't deny anymore. There's so much evidence. And the CNN ratings keep slipping, yay. Maybe we're gonna see some change in 2022. What surprised you most about Rogan? He is completely up on all the information and yet it's totally low key. He's very committed to speaking to a general audience. It's core for him. The idea of not playing into all this divisiveness

12:23 He is consciously, intentionally a healer right now. And just a very centered, genuinely good person. There is kind of a growing movement and awareness that part of the problem here is the structure of how we have been building our organizations and doing business in a deep, profound way, in just a dissatisfaction with

13:01 with what one sees at the World Health Organization and the CDC and the whole HHS structure in the United States where you have carefully controlled information, only one leader is allowed to speak, only one leader is allowed to represent the position. I think that is gonna turn out to be one of the changes here is as a growing awareness that that model is dysfunctional, broken, and it needs to be fixed. In light of your attacks and seeing how the mainstream media labels people and then tries to get these buzzwords going, has that changed your view on other people that the media has gone after? Completely. Because you have people like Robert F. Kennedy Jr. or people like Alex Jones. Has this kind of made you think, well, maybe they're not as crazy as

13:57 maybe I was led to believe before. So I'm going to share, so we did a little bit of a tour on the Hill a few weeks ago and I met with various senators. And so I walk in to Ron Johnson's office and I had this mental image from the press of what I was going to encounter with Ron Johnson. Ron Johnson is basically an average Midwestern straight arrow kind of good guy. I'm open hearted, very down to earth. No, you know, I've dealt with the hill for a long time and I've seen some serious egos. Welcome back. Kristie Lee guest hosting today. Boy, have things really blown up.

CHAPTER 04 / 25 Discussion

Mass Formation Psychosis, Google Search Censorship

Christy Lee examines the viral spread of the term "mass formation psychosis" following Dr. Robert Malone's appearance on the Joe Rogan Experience. She highlights how Google allegedly manipulated search results to promote debunking videos while DuckDuckGo provided direct links to Malone's research. The concept, originally attributed to Matias Desmet, suggests a society can be hypnotized into following irrational leadership through free-floating anxiety.

mass formation psychosis· google· duckduckgo· matias desmet· joe rogan

14:52 Since Joe Rogan invited Dr. Malone on and did a three hour plus interview with him, it's been going all over the place. And this is just after he'd been censored. And so like I had said on Twitter, you know, the best way to actually defeat the purposes, you know, you're trying to censor someone, that is is censor them and then they're going to get blown up like never before. So we've been seeing that to happen. And if you go to info wars dot com, we have a nice comprehensive look of everything that has gone on since this wild interview came out and it's just been going crazy. It's titled See the mass formation psychosis term censored by Google following bombshell Doctor Malone interview there. This has a nice comprehensive look at everything that's been going on and how this term

15:39 has been going wild. I've seen it trending on Twitter. In fact, I think it even says that, yeah, 106,000 tweets of mass formation psychosis. This is in the article that you can find on Infowars.com. And here we have a clip of him on Rogan talking about this concept. Here it is. From basically European intellectual inquiry into what the heck happened in Germany. in the 20s and 30s, you know, very intelligent, highly educated population, and they went barking mad. And how did that happen? The answer is mass formation psychosis. When you have a society that has become decoupled from each other and has free-floating anxiety in a sense that things don't make sense, we can't understand it, and then their attention gets focused by a leader or series of events on one small point, just like hypnosis,

16:36 they literally become hypnotized and can be led anywhere. And one of the aspects of that phenomena is the people that they identify as their leaders, the ones typically that come in and say, you have this pain and I can solve it for you, I and I alone. Okay, can fix this problem for you. Okay, then they will lead, they will follow that person through, it doesn't matter whether they lie to them or whatever. The data are irrelevant. And furthermore, anybody who questions that narrative is to be immediately attacked. They are the other. This is central to mass formation psychosis. And this is what has happened. We had all those conditions. If you remember back before,

17:18 2019, everybody was complaining, the world doesn't make sense, blah blah blah. And we're all isolated from each other, we're all on our little tools, we're not connected socially anymore, except through social media. And then this thing happened and everybody focused on it. That is how mass formation psychosis happens, and that is what's happened here. to I sat down with Dr. Malone and we did a whole entire interview on this particular topic. And it is found on Band.Video. It is the one where it says we're all being hypnotized. It's a little over 25 minute video where we're completely focused on this topic that was

18:18 posted a month ago on InfoWars on BandUp video. And you can find that video now if you wanna dig deeper onto this conversation of mass formation psychosis. So again, a month ago we were talking about, there it is, Dr. Malone, they're being hypnotized. This was put up over a month ago. Now it's really picking up steam since he mentioned it on Joe Rogan. But here's just more evidence that InfoWars is where it's at for getting the information before anyone else. So there you go, but I'll talk more about that in a minute. I wanted to talk about Liberty Daily then ran with an article about Dr. Malone that you saw in the first half of the highlights video which again you can find on B and that video Where he was talking about being multi-dimensional Red-pilled and obviously when I asked him if he'd been red-pilled that was not the answer I expected Was for him to be so blatant. Yes. I've been multi-dimensional

19:08 red pill, but this is what happens. I think this is what happens when you poke the bear, when you ridicule somebody, when you attack them, when you censor them, when you suppress them, and they know they have the truth on their side. That's when they wake up. That is the journey that he and I frankly have gone through coming from traditional cookie cutter experiences. He was an insider obviously with vaccine research. I was an insider if you will, with traditional news media. And then once you start to see just by asking questions, the response, The response you get just by asking questions and speaking up how you're attacked, how it's just such a vicious response. I think that helps you wake up and I think that that's why Dr. Malone and I have connected as now friends is just we've been through this whole journey of being red pilled, of waking up and sometimes that is what it takes.

CHAPTER 05 / 25 Discussion

Liberty Daily Report, Big Tech Arbiters of Truth

A report from Liberty Daily criticizes Big Tech companies for acting as "arbiters of truth" regarding the mass formation psychosis concept. The segment contrasts the career longevity of figures like Anthony Fauci and Joe Biden with the censorship of scientists who challenge the prevailing narrative. Christy Lee notes that Dr. Malone reached out to her specifically to discuss these psychological phenomena a month prior to the Rogan interview.

liberty daily· big tech· censorship· anthony fauci· joe biden

20:05 So there is an article from Liberty Daily talking about this concept. get along. This is how we get people like Anthony Fauci and Joe Biden enjoying long careers in government despite ridiculous strings of failures throughout their lives. Some are able to see the evil for what it is and choose to side with the truth. It's called being red-pilled and Dr. Malone admits that he's there. And then we have this whole crazy response from Google trying to then

20:48 Shut it down, this mass formation psychosis, this term. And just think about that. This is just a concept. This isn't even talking about vaccines or the safety and efficacy of vaccines or anything. This is just talking about a concept that they're trying to hide from you. Why would they try so hard to hide a concept? from you. Think about that. So Google and DuckDuckGo, they handled this whole mass formation psychosis very differently. You can find this in the Infowars.com article, but it's also mentioned here on Liberty Daily. The biggest of the big tech baddies has taken upon themselves to be the arbiters of truth who determine what we're allowed to see and what is too dangerous for our feeble minds. A perfect example of this is happening right now as many people search for Dr. Robert Malone and mass formation psychosis.

21:36 So, instead of linking to the video of Dr. Malone when you search on Google, any of the stories that dive into the phenomenon or even reaction videos that expand on the concept, Google decided to promote some random dude's minute and a half video debunking it when people search for mass formation psychosis. Even if we discard the indisputable fact that the guy in the video is a mental lightweight while attempting to attack the inventor of the mRNA technology that powers the jab, we can't find any algorithmic reason for his video to be ranked at the top.

22:13 well ahead of actual experts. But if you search on DuckDuckGo, which many I know have learned to do to actually find what you're looking for free from any control. If you search on DuckDuckGo, his detailed sub stack article about this phenomenon is right there. at the top. But again, this isn't something new. This is now getting traction, which is why Google had to rush in and try and censor this concept. But many people have been talking about this concept. It kicked off with Mattias Desmet

22:50 talking about this on YouTube and it was actually that that made Dr. Malone reach out to me and say, hey, I'm really intrigued by this whole concept of what I think is going on. I've been trying to figure out why people are ignoring the data, why they are censoring the truth. And I just listened to this, this breakdown from Matias and I want to talk to you about it. And so that's how it led to the month ago that we were talking about this before, but more on that, we'll be talking about that much more to come. So stick around. I'll see you on the other side. Welcome back to InfoWars Special Sunday edition. Thank you for allowing me to guest host today. We are coming off the major interview with Dr. Robert Malone. The first time I got to meet him in person, we've been doing multiple interviews with Dr. Malone, but it's

CHAPTER 06 / 25 Discussion

Mark McDonald, United States of Fear and Irrational Anxiety

Psychiatrist Mark McDonald’s book, "United States of Fear," is cited to argue that America is suffering from a mass delusional psychosis driven by irrational fear. The discussion posits that government and corporations have groomed the public for decades to be addicted to fear to facilitate the removal of freedoms. Breaking this cycle requires a constant "drip of truth" and data to reach those still receptive to new information.

mark mcdonald· united states of fear· psychiatry· delusional psychosis· fear addiction

23:53 been through Skype or Zoom and this was the first opportunity I got to sit down with him one-on-one person to person in our studio here directly following the interview with Joe Rogan. So that was interesting and you can find the whole full interview on band video, but you can also find the highlights version if there's folks that haven't committed to maybe sitting down for three hours and watching the Joe Rogan or the hour plus and watching the full one. Maybe you just want to send them the highlights version, which we also have up on band that video. So we were talking about how this whole concept. One of the things he mentioned, also, InfoWars.com, you can see the whole breakdown in this masturbation psychosis term that we're talking about.

24:37 What we're talking about is that he was talking about this subject, this idea on Joe Rogan. And it's taken off. There's hundreds, well, there's over 120,000, 160,000, I think, tweets on mass formation psychosis. People are really intrigued by this concept because I think so many of us have been starving to know what is What is it with people? How can they not see what's going on? And this offers a reason in a concept of that people are simply truly hypnotized. That they used a strategy to get people to not question, to be afraid, and to

25:17 You can't barely break it no matter how much you information no matter how much data you share with them They just can't break it, but we've been talking about that for a while now But it's really picking up steam obviously since his interview with Joe Rogan, so here's another example from a conservative playbook In his book, United States of Fear Psychiatrist, Mark McDonald diagnoses the US as suffering from mass delusional psychosis driven by an irrational fear of what is now a rather innocuous virus. The fearful overreaction, which we all saw the tickered on the news screen every day, didn't have its origin in what happened in 2020. Government, corporations and powerful individuals have engaged in a systematic

26:01 grooming effort toward irrational fear addiction for decades. Without fear, they cannot rob us of our freedoms. The underlying motivation of this psychological campaign has been an attack on the core structures, foundations and institutions of society in order to nurture a sense of dependency on government. government, oh, our nanny government. To overcome their addiction to fear, a person must still have a sense of curiosity and be willing to look at new information. If they're not, they're not treatable and cannot be stopped from trading their and our freedom for a false sense of security. So the key is finding those who are still open and receptive to new information so that we can reach a tipping point where there are more fearless people than fear addicted ones. Now, when I had my conversation with Dr. Malone,

26:47 a little over a month ago, and you can find that conversation specifically on this topic, this mass formation psychosis. When we were talking about it, he said another way that you can attempt to break the hypnosis is to drip the truth just constantly, just constantly drip the truth and show them the data. And even when you feel like you're not making any progress, just keep it up. So keep on sending those clips from Band.Video, keep on sending those Infowars.com article. You never know if that will be the one that will hopefully break the literal hypnosis that's going on. But if you really are anxious to dig into that because Google is censoring your ability to look at that, make sure you go to Band.Video and find that video there on Band.Video, my page. So I wanted to kind of also give you background on how this came out. So when I

CHAPTER 07 / 25 Discussion

YouTube Censorship, Dr. Malone Video Strikes

Christy Lee recounts her experience receiving a strike on YouTube for posting an interview with Dr. Robert Malone about psychological concepts. Despite avoiding specific vaccine claims, the video was flagged as misinformation and removed. She observes that YouTube appears to have purged original interviews on mass formation psychosis, replacing them with critical commentary and "fact-checks."

youtube· censorship· video strike· misinformation· inappropriate content

27:42 he was intrigued by an interview he'd seen with Matias Desmet, who was breaking down this concept and he's like, that's it. And so he, Dr. Malone, really dug deeper and looked into this concept. And he actually contacted me and say, I think we should do an interview on this. So I'm like, okay, of course, which is again, posted on Band.video. And so I had also posted this interview on YouTube. Well, YouTube took it down, gave me a strike. And I was actually surprised because I've tried to strategize how to get around the censorship with YouTube. Maybe post smaller things or avoid outright claims about vaccines or effectiveness, you know, is the way that you're supposed to try and strategize on YouTube. So I'm like, well, I think this one will survive because we're just talking about a concept and the original

28:35 interview about mass formation psychosis that we were just giving commentary on was still up. So I was like, well, this should be fine to post on YouTube. I'll go ahead and try. And I was actually surprised that they immediately took it down and labeled it as inappropriate content and misinformation. So I made an appeal and said, we were just giving commentary on a concept and that video is still up. And no, it didn't work, of course. And so I've come to think that YouTube is just gonna take any video down that has Dr. Malone in it, period. But here's the other interesting thing. When Dr. Malone had reached out over a month ago saying that he wanted to talk about this concept of mass formation psychosis, I had gone to YouTube to find the original interview that intrigued him and it came right up.

29:26 Well, today when I was looking for that original video, that is not what comes up. They have purged that from being the first thing that comes up. And of course, much like Google, the first things that come up are just criticisms of Dr. Malone and criticisms of this concept in general. So yeah, I can't even find the original video. So it also brings up this idea of censoring now concepts. We've kind of gotten used to that you can't actually put the truth out there. You can't actually give data on anything that could be perceived as negative with vaccines, but concepts? Well, Cheryl Atkinson, another truth telling journalist that's been in the game for a long time and

CHAPTER 08 / 25 Discussion

Sharyl Attkisson, Facebook Ban for Historical Quotes

Journalist Sharyl Attkisson reportedly received a Facebook ban for posting a factual historical quote from Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbels without commentary. Christy Lee shares a similar anecdote from her time as a local news anchor, where Facebook prevented her from boosting a post that simply defined the word "propaganda." These incidents are presented as evidence of an Orwellian shift in big tech content moderation.

sharyl attkisson· facebook· joseph goebbels· propaganda· censorship

30:13 Also, we've had an interview with her that you can find on BAN.video, just so you know. But Cheryl Atkinson's no stranger now to this censorship. And she had written this article a while back and this made me think of it. So she wrote, they censor factual information, Facebook. It's a dynamic that might even make George Orwell shake his head and say, even I never predicted it would be this blatant and allowed to continue. You're not gonna believe this if you hadn't heard it already. Facebook banned a post I made that was nothing more than a factual citation of a historical quote from Hitler's propagandist Goebbels. It was posted entirely without comment. It was literally just a quote from propagandist Goebbels.

30:57 The first ban of the information came with me getting knocked off of Facebook for three days when I posted a follow up factually explaining what happened. That got a seven day ban. If I keep posting factual information, I may not be there much longer. So here are the posts. Here's the post that she originally put on Facebook that got her a three-day ban. It is simply a quote from Joseph Goebbels and the quote is, it would not be impossible to prove with sufficient repetition and psychological understanding of the people concerned that a square is in fact a circle. They are mere words and words can be molded until they clothe ideas in disguise.

31:34 So with no explanation, just posting a quote got her banned for three days. And then when she tried to explain that Facebook did this, just a quote, then she got another seven day ban. So these big tech companies, they won't even allow you to post concepts if you're too close to the mark. Now this was interesting concept for me because when I was still in traditional news and I was starting to wake into some things that were going on that were making me feel uncomfortable. I had posted on my Facebook page, and again I was just the lead anchor at a news station in California at this time and I was very uncomfortable what was going on. And so I simply posted the definition of propaganda.

32:22 and how to tell the difference between propaganda and news. And this was while I was still employed as a news anchor. Well, Facebook has a option that you can boost a post, right? So I went to boost this post, simply the definition of propaganda, and it would not allow me to boost that post. That's when I really started to wake up like, wait a minute, Facebook won't even let me boost The definition of propaganda, isn't that telling? So here we are, we're in, I mean, as if you needed the reminder, we are straight and worse than Orwell could have ever imagined when we can't even talk about concepts on traditional big tech platforms anymore. Exposing what is true in 2022.

CHAPTER 09 / 25 Discussion

Marjorie Taylor Greene, Twitter Suspension and Double Standards

Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene's permanent suspension from Twitter is discussed as a primary example of political double standards. The segment contrasts her ban for "tweeting statistics" with the continued presence of Maxine Waters and other left-wing figures on the platform. Eric Weinstein is quoted regarding the forced binary of modern political discourse where neutrality is no longer permitted.

marjorie taylor greene· twitter· maxine waters· eric weinstein· censorship

33:20 Welcome to Info Wars. This is Christy Lee guest hosting today, which I'm sure you figured out with my cheesy introduction just then, but it's true. That is the hope that I am holding on to is that what is true is coming out in 2022. Let's hold on to that hope. And I think we're seeing it. The breaking of the mass formation psychosis. I mean, isn't it enough that enough people are intrigued with what this is, that it's blowing up? People are trying to seek information on what this concept is. And then we know we're on the market, on the mark when big tech, Google, Facebook, Twitter are now censoring concepts, which is all mass formation psychosis is. It's a concept.

34:00 But they don't like that it's exposing that people are hypnotized. People have been straight up hypnotized and that is why it is so dang hard to even reach them with facts and data. But speaking of censorship, the latest one to fall, and I'm sure there'll be more, is Marjorie Taylor Greene. And she's firing back over her censorship on Twitter, pointing out that Representative Maxine Waters has used accounts to actually threaten violence. And she has no repercussions. But yet, MGT is censored. She said from her account on Twitter, rival Getter, when Maxine Waters can go to the streets and threaten violence on Twitter, Kamala and Ilhan can bail out rioters on Twitter. And chief spokesman for terrorist IRGC can tweet mourning Soleimani, but I get suspended for tweeting their statistics.

34:57 Twitter is an enemy to America and can't handle the truth. So I shared this on my Twitter and I... had someone follow up with, hope you're next. Isn't it so great how these people are just so tolerant? They're so tolerant and it just, I wanted to respond with like, okay, Nazi, but you know, anytime you say that, then they'll find a reason to come after even harder. So I just didn't bother. But that is how these folks are. They cannot tolerate their echo chamber being at all threatened and yet that is what they accuse those of us who are telling truth about. But the thing is, obviously we don't mind hearing other viewpoints. I mean, we're inundated with the other viewpoints.

35:44 But they can't handle it. They can't handle the truth, as Jack Nicholson would say. You can't handle the truth. So they just kick you off Twitter. And then Eric Weinstein had an interesting tweet in response to all of this censorship. Remember, if you think this suspension is wrong, you support nut cases who endanger the public, according to the left. If you support the suspension, you are an authoritarian who doesn't believe in the free exchange of ideas. And if you attempt to evade this binary, you're useless. Pick a side, brah. And see, that's the thing. We are so divided that you cannot be in the middle on any of these issues. They demand you pick a side.

CHAPTER 10 / 25 Discussion

Spiritual Warfare, Biblical Perspective on Truth

Christy Lee frames the current political and social climate as a spiritual battle, citing Proverbs 12:22 and Psalm 25:5. She emphasizes that her hope is rooted in Jesus Christ rather than political outcomes. This religious framing is used to explain how individuals can maintain mental stability while being "multi-dimensionally red-pilled" by disturbing global events.

jesus christ· proverbs· psalms· spiritual battle· christianity

36:27 And it's difficult. I mean, coming from someone who has been a registered independent for a long time, I mean, people cannot handle that. They cannot handle that. They demand you pick a side. I tell you what, I have picked a side. It is the side of the way, the truth and the life. The only thing that I am allowing to lead me, or at least always trying to allow to lead me is Jesus Christ, my Lord and Savior. And that is the only way that I can make sense of anything, quite frankly, because both sides we have seen can be deceptive at times. And so. It's all the more important to recognize this as a spiritual battle. So getting to the verse of the day, which I didn't get to at the beginning because we had other stuff going on, but you know, I'm sitting here, I'm going to have my verses of the day. So they are the Lord detests. This is from Proverbs 12 22. The Lord detests lying lips, but he delights in people who are trustworthy and Psalm 25 five guide me in your truth and teach me for you are my God, my savior and my hope in you all day long.

37:28 Psalm 25, five, guide me in your truth and teach me for you are God my savior and my hope is in you all day long. Because boy, it is hard to have hope. Now, you know, when you are exposed to the truth, when you take the red pill, when you're multi-dimensionally red-pilled as Dr. Robert Malone just said, Sometimes you start to lose a little hope, but if our hope remains in our Lord and Savior, that hope cannot be shaken. And that is the only way I can make sense of anything is when I know that my truth is determined by staying connected to God. And I try, I'm a human, so I am not perfect, but that is my goal, that is my hope. That's why I'm trying to be in the word every single day, because how else can you make sense of this crazy world we live in, right?

CHAPTER 11 / 25 Discussion

Optimism in 2022, Shifting American Cultural Centers

A list of six reasons for optimism in 2022 is presented, including a reported shift in the American cultural center toward conservative values. Cited trends include declining approval for the Black Lives Matter organization, increased support for pro-life positions, and judicial pushback against federal mandates. The segment highlights Ron DeSantis and Donald Trump as key leaders for the future of the movement.

ron desantis· donald trump· black lives matter· gun control· pro-life

38:18 So there's the verses. And according to this article that I was looking at, there are some reasons to be optimistic in 2022 of this change, this shift as people wake up, you know? So six reasons to be, it says conservatist, but I don't like all these labels. So I'm just gonna say six reasons to be optimistic in 2022. America's cultural center is shifting to the right. The independent moderate voters make up approximately 20% of the electorate and they're the ones that decide in which direction the country goes. So reason to be.

38:55 Optimistic there. So for Black Lives Matter, the organization, of course, not the sentiment. A recent poll, which is a very left-leaning polling outfit, Civics, said their approval for BLM has dropped to just 44%. Maybe it's because BLM funds have not been used to actually make any communities better or do anything for the group, but just by million dollar houses. I don't know, maybe that has something to do with it. Opinions on abortion continue to move toward the pro-life movement. A full three quarters of Americans reject the insane idea that men can be women and vice versa. And we're even seeing a shift to the right on gun control opinions. Now that was actually surprising for me to read, a full three quarters of Americans reject the idea that men can be women and vice versa. Because you wouldn't know it if you're just looking at all of the popular

39:48 I mean, I cannot open like a Snapchat without seeing something on transgender or that issue. So I'm surprised that people are still rejecting it. The chance of Let's Go Brandon showing Americans particularly the younger folks are fed up with leftism becoming increasingly vocal about the dissatisfaction. And then number five, people are waking up to the left's lies, particularly the gigantic COVID con. And so people are starting to ask questions, seeing that more and more. So as much as they try to hide the truth, they can't. The judicial branch of government serving as an effective bulwark against leftist tyranny from the other two branches. Special election for two vacant Senate seats in Georgia last January was devastating to the conservative movement in America. Both seats flipped blue, resulting in a 50-50 split. But then as you'll see, the Democratic Party

40:48 That was the furthest left, but the court ruled against Biden's attempt to shut down Trump's remain in Mexico immigration policy. Federal courts have knocked down various provisions of Biden's tyrannical vaccine mandates. And SCOTUS will be addressing the matter as well. But that remains to be seen because I don't know about you guys, but it's a little bit nerve wracking with what the Supreme Court is gonna do. I don't know that we can fully trust them at this point. And then it says number, did I miss one? I feel like I missed one. Let me see real quick, sorry. Four, yeah, no, I didn't, the judicial branch. And then number three, we're entering an election year, since we're talking about Republicans. I mean, we've seen already some victories in this past election. And then, I mean, I don't know how anyone could vote for more of what we've been enduring. But I guess you just never know, especially since we have to have faith in our election system. But there is reason to have hope.

41:43 Young number two, young conservatives in government far outshine young leftists. Our future is bright. Republicans are stacked with sharp young up and comers. The party's undisputed leader continues to be Donald Trump but waiting in the wings and ready to take charge. Our scores of excellent conservatives. And I mean, we have Ron DeSantis definitely getting an award. Number one, because what other choice do we have? But to have hope, that's a nice way to end it. What other choice do we have? But I think that there's always reason to have hope. There is the other verse, a hope deferred makes the heart sick. At times, I think many of us are battling that feeling sick. You know, what is going on? What are we gonna find out next? Are we in the last days? Definitely true, hope deferred makes the heart sick, but we know who the final say is and we know that God wins in the end.

CHAPTER 12 / 25 Discussion

The Hill, Scandal-Free Biden Administration Claims

Christy Lee critiques an article from The Hill that characterized the Biden administration as "scandal-free" and the economy as "humming." She argues that the lack of reported scandals is a result of media bias and the failure to investigate issues like the Hunter Biden laptop or inflation. The segment contrasts this with the "Russian collusion hoax" coverage during the Trump presidency.

the hill· joe biden· inflation· russian collusion· media bias

42:33 So then I was reading this article that I thought was satire at first, but it's actually not. It's from the Hill. Let's be honest, 2021 wasn't all bad. The economy is humming, they say, unemployment rate down 4.2%. They talk about inflation going down and that since interest rates will surely be raised maybe twice or three times, that's gonna get even better with no context of what that does to the entire economy and to our money as a whole. And then it even has this whole section on, wait till you see this, a scandal-free Biden administration.

43:13 That's the way it should be, but isn't always. Think back four years ago, the Trump administration looked more like the Godfather without the skill. A scandal-free Biden administration? This whole thing has been a scandal. Maybe that's because The Hill was reporting on fake and phony news of a Russian collusion hoax and making up scandals. There's no scandal because you're not reporting on the scandals. Welcome back to InfoWars, Christi Lee, happy to be guest hosting today. Here's my verse of the day, guide me in your truth and teach me for you are God, my savior, and my hope is in you all day long. As we're searching for truth, as we're exposing truth, it's important to stay centered, stay balanced, make sure that we're looking to the truth.

44:04 truth personified to make sure that we're always checking ourselves. Because the Bible also says the heart is deceitful above all things. So I wanna make sure that I always am open-minded enough to understand that there might be things that I'm deceived about, that my heart is deceived about. I think that's so important to keep that open mind because the alternative is the folks that we're fighting right now that are under mass formation psychosis. that you can't even break the lies that they've been told because they are so convinced that that is the truth. So let's make sure that we keep ourselves open to truth revealed, and then also exposing the truth. All that's true coming out in 2022. That's what I'm saying, and that's what I'm hoping for.

CHAPTER 13 / 25 Discussion

Head Start Vaccine Mandate, Judicial Block in Louisiana

U.S. District Judge Terry Doty issued a ruling blocking the Biden administration's vaccine and mask mandates for the Head Start early education program. The ruling, which affected 24 states, argued that the executive branch unlawfully bypassed Congress. Christy Lee notes the contradiction between Biden's statement that COVID is a state-level issue and his continued pursuit of federal mandates.

joe biden· head start· vaccine mandate· terry doty· louisiana

44:52 And just want to remind you that you are going to want to stick around today because Harrison Smith will be doing SNL tonight. So just want to make sure that you are aware of that. He will be taking over for SNL and hoping to get an interview in here in this hour, but we'll see. We'll see. And also remind you that you can be sharing this whole concept of mass formation psychosis. You can find the article about how this is picking up steam on InfoWars.com. It has really nice comprehensive look, a clip from Joe Rogan and Dr. Robert Malone talking about this concept. You can share that article. You can also share

45:31 the highlights of my interview with Dr. Robert Malone. That is up on Band.Video. And we're actually going to be playing part two of that. in the next segment. So don't miss that if you haven't had a chance to see all this. Like Alex was saying earlier, there are things that Dr. Robert Malone revealed in his interview with Joe Rogan that he and I didn't really get to, but there were actually other things that he and I talked about that he did not reveal or get into with Joe Rogan. So if you really want the full experience, make sure you watch, take the time to watch all of that and you know where to find it and make sure you share, share, share

46:07 Free World News TV is always a great one where you can get on Facebook and Twitter, share these informations and they won't, they haven't really caught on to censoring those. And make sure that you're staying up on all the information yourself so that you are not deceived. So wanted to talk about giving hope because like I said before, hope deferred makes the heart sick. So let's always look and try and find positive news, things to uplift us. And oh, look here, Judge blocks Biden's vaccine mandate for federal education program. That's a win. Let's celebrate the wins when they have them. This came out on headlineusa.com today.

46:46 If the executive branch is allowed to usurp the power of the legislative branch to make laws, then this country is no longer a democracy. It is a monarchy. And then according to the Associated Press, President Joe Biden cannot require teachers in the Head Start Early Education Program to be vaccinated against COVID-19. A Louisiana federal judge ruled Saturday, handing a victory to 24 states that had sued the federal government. So not everyone's giving up. People are fighting back. U.S. District Judge Terry Doty wrote that the Biden administration unlawfully bypassed Congress when ordering that workers and Head Start programs be vaccinated by January 31st. And that students two years or older be masked when indoors or when in close contact outdoors. Head Start is federally funded program that promotes education for children under the age of six who are from low income families. Isn't it strange that they're still pushing these things? Like you can't even figure that out. So you have Biden saying,

47:43 It's up to the states now. This isn't a federal problem anymore. But then he still allows these federal mandates to be pushed and challenged and then thankfully struck down. And then you have, my gosh, I saw so many articles about children needing to be masked in school again. And even an email sent home from the school district that my children attend that says, that masks are required, even though in Texas it's against the law to do that, but they're gonna push them anyways. And this is all after many in the CDC and the CNN analysts and everything else said these cloth masks don't work. We've been saying that this whole time, but they're finally admitting it and they're still trying to require it.

CHAPTER 14 / 25 Discussion

Robert Malone, Information Warfare and Personal Awakening

Dr. Robert Malone reflects on his transition from a high-level insider to a leader in the "resistance" against mainstream medical narratives. He describes being targeted by "yellow journalism" and weaponized information intended to discredit his decades of patent-holding research. Malone notes that other experts, such as Dr. Peter McCullough, have undergone similar transformations after being repeatedly attacked by media institutions.

robert malone· information warfare· peter mccullough· yellow journalism· resistance

48:31 Tomorrow's news today, that is right. Mass formation psychosis is going crazy on Twitter, going crazy with people searching it for Google. And so of course, Google is on it trying to bring up random, random dudes trying to criticize a concept rather than the experts that actually know what they're talking about. But like I said, tomorrow's news today, we've been talking about this concept, mass formation psychosis. You can find us a month ago, we were talking with Dr. Malone about this, a little over 25 minute video about we are being hypnotized according to Dr. Malone. You can find that on BAN.video.

49:11 We've been talking about it, but as Alex even says, we don't care who makes it pick up steam. We just want the information out. So happy that it's getting out, happy that it's getting out after his bombshell interview with Joe Rogan. And I'm very thankful that he decided to swing by and sit down with our first one-on-one, person-to-person interview. I had done multiple interviews with Dr. Malone before, but it was always through Zoom and Skype. And this time I got to sit down across from him. And so we want to play, we put together a 15-minute highlights video because we know not everyone can sit there for three hours or an hour plus. So we wanted to have a snackable version and we're going to play the second half of that. We played the first half of that in the first hour. We'll play the second half of that in this hour so you can see what you need to be sharing with your friends and family. Here it is. From basically European intellectual inquiry into what the heck happened in Germany in the 20s and 30s. You know, very intelligent, highly educated population and they went barking mad.

50:12 And how did that happen? The answer is mass formation psychosis. When you have a society that has become decoupled from each other and has free-floating anxiety in a sense that things don't make sense, we can't understand it, and then their attention gets focused by a leader or just a good guy. That's, I think that, you know, Yeah, there's been some hits and all this and it's never fun to take these arrows from the media. And as you know, they can be a little wicked from time to time. I've been on social media for a long time and I've kind of gotten desensitized to the trollery. That's been really helpful.

51:06 just being able to say, hey, you know, there are haters in the world and that's just the way it is. I think the most, for me it has been an awakening journey, there's no question. I didn't seek this, I never expected it. I find myself at the center of this storm of the resistance. That's what it is really. And I'm still amazed. But It has profoundly changed my view of the information that we receive. You talk about me becoming more outspoken. I've seen that with my peers too. So for instance, Peter McCullough, he's kind of chilled out a little bit. But when you're attacked all the time and you have all of this weaponized information against you,

CHAPTER 15 / 25 Discussion

Reuters Fact-Check, Pediatric Vaccine Risk Strategy

Dr. Robert Malone details his strategy for dealing with a Reuters fact-check regarding pediatric vaccine risks. He claims the Reuters team used false statements from the British MHRA regarding child deaths to "enforce the narrative." Malone explains how he used a "terse" response strategy to redirect fact-checkers to a website containing VAERS data and reports of pediatric deaths in Vietnam.

reuters· fact-check· pfizer· vaers· pediatric deaths

52:05 and in no respect, I mean, I'm Mr. Malone, who claims to have invented all this language, the kind of classic yellow journalism language, to have it all deployed against me. is in absolutely no respect for what I actually did. And they never cite all the patents. I mean, they just gloss over all that. And like you said, it's an information warfare. So Reuters is now coming after you with a fact check, particularly on the piece about risk reward benefit with children. So you're fighting back with information. So tell me about that and how that's going. So having had the experience now,

52:47 of being subjected to this, you know, it's not fair, it's not right, it's not proper and they don't care, right? It doesn't matter what the truth is, it matters what the storyline is that they want to promote. Having had that experience now a few times and dealt with the fact checkers and dealt with this young reporter at Atlantic Monthly, and seeing how that all plays out. For instance, when Peter Navarro and I wrote the op-ed and put it in the Washington Times, which by the way was the thing that triggered that Atlantic Monthly piece, in retrospect, it's now clear that that was intended to shut me down because I was starting to speak at that point about policy and criticize the Biden policy.

53:34 And the criticism, by the way, that I was making, the proposal that I was putting out was essentially that of the Great Barrington Declaration, which is these three fringe epidemiologists. They're from Harvard, Stanford, but they're fringe. Yeah, right. Both professors. So having dealt with this, The question, so I get this new fact-checker attack by the Reuters fact-checker team. It sounds very official. And they have spoken to the MHRA and the MHRA has these comments that it listed. So this is the equivalent of the FDA in Great Britain, which by the way, up until the beginning of the year was not doing any FDA type regulatory work. It was all being done by the Central European Union.

54:25 So they're actually newbies at this. Okay, and so they put out this statement to Reuters that they were quoting that was intrinsically full of falsehoods like they said for instance there have been no pediatric deaths well that took about two seconds to prove that false You can cite the if nothing else you can cite the multiple media pieces coming out of Vietnam with the four kids that died from the Pfizer jab okay, so that in in I reached out to my network and I got a huge volume of information about all the pediatric deaths in VAERS, in Yellow Card, Test Lori help. So the question was, was there a way to flip the script on the fact checkers? And so I consulted with these media analysts and media warriors that I work with that wish to remain confidential because they run big companies.

55:20 And we came up with a strategy because what happens is you'll write back to these guys and you'll say well here's the citation, here's the citation, here's the citation and they'll ignore it. And they'll go ahead and put out whatever attack and they'll say you know well Dr. Malone cited some irrelevant documents that aren't properly peer-reviewed or whatever. They'll trash whatever you put out right because it's not about evaluating truth, it's about enforcing the narrative. So what we did And I invite anybody to adopt this strategy that's under this kind of pressure. I sent in a very terse, brief quote to the fact checkers. And I said, basically, thank you so much for the opportunity to respond. And always trying to be nice, because this is going to go public. And you can find the answers that you're looking for, the information that you're seeking at this website. Bang.

CHAPTER 16 / 25 Discussion

Alison Morrow, Corporate News Industry Critique

Former Seattle news anchor Alison Morrow joins the program to discuss her departure from corporate media. She critiques how the industry handled Dr. Robert Malone, transforming him from a respected scientist into a "fringe" figure. Morrow argues that the corporate news structure is designed to protect establishment institutions while placing an impossibly high bar for dissenting experts.

alison morrow· seattle· corporate news· independent journalism· dark horse podcast

56:17 All right, let's pull it out of that right now. We'll play the last couple minutes perhaps later if we can. So just a little bit of background on this interview, this first sit down with interview with Dr. Malone. It was very interesting because I, just the journey and that's a funny thing too is that was a sermon today for church. that I was listening to is this journey. So for a new year, you always get like five steps to succeed in the new year or three things to think about in the new year. And the sermon was just about how this is a journey and we need God's grace every day.

56:58 to navigate the journey. So there's no steps or anything as far as that goes. It's just, it's taking the journey when that's why we don't know what's next half the time. Certainly I never thought I'd be sitting here if you had told me that like two or three years ago, that I would be sitting in an InfoWars chair, I would have been like, what? Yeah, right. You gotta be kidding me. So it's just the journey and, And as far as that goes, when I had left traditional media and was going out alone, you need to have like a little bit of a more... national or global outlook on things, you know, cause I'd always been a lead anchor for local news. And so I'm like, where do I even begin with finding a, like a national figure to interview? And I actually had some help with another independent journalist. When I reached out to her, I thought she had an interesting interview. She had me on her show and I was like, ah, can you connect me with this guy? So Dr. Malone was my very first independent news journalist interview. And then here we are,

57:54 Months later and I got to sit down with him in person right after he'd appeared on Joe Rogan So it's just crazy how God has led the way through this but good news I'm gonna be talking with that journalist who made the connection next That's what I'm going with Dr. Malone's interview with Joe Rogan is going crazy, going viral. Let's see if it hits as much as the Dr. Peter McCullough interview did. Now talking about our journey and the journey that we're all going through and we all have our own awakening journey and it was such a riot to hear Dr. Malone

58:32 He did not respond the way I thought he would when I asked him if he'd been red-pilled. He really took that to the next level. Multi-dimensionally red-pilled. So again, we've all gone through our own awakening journey. I know I have and that's a part of how I connected with Dr. Malone is because I knew that he had had his awakening journey and then Another friend of mine who's become a friend of mine is Alison Morrow and she hit her awakening journey before I think either me or Dr. Malone. She, I consider one of the OGs of independent journalists who broke away, I feel like sooner than a lot of us. And so happy to have her join me right now. Alison Morrow, thanks for being on. See, thanks for having me, always a pleasure. Now, did you ever think that you would make appearances on InfoWars as a long time traditional news journalist?

59:21 No, I didn't. But you know what? When you texted me earlier, I'm on vacation in Florida, soaking up the vitamin D and the freedom. And I figured anything for you, Christie. So fire away what you got for me. Well, thank you for being an inspiration to me and others as Allison and I have witnessed on Twitter with the Twitter wars. Not every journalist is open to being awakened. We try our best to encourage other journalists, come on, wake up. This is not how this is supposed to work. This is not how traditional journalism is supposed to work, but you know, not everyone is receptive. But I don't know if you had a chance to see any clips of Dr. Malone and I, but I wanted to talk about that because you interviewed Dr. Malone, I think shortly after his, his,

1:00:07 interview on the Dark Horse podcast, which really propelled him into some circles and to some mainstream and into some, I guess, ridicule and criticism because he wasn't following the narrative. What has it been like for you to see, like having interviewed him then and like how you're seeing him talk with Jerogan and everything? I think what's the most interesting to me is how somebody like Dr. Malone goes from a person who has virtually no public recognition, really somebody who's obviously been running in the circles that he's been running in for decades, but not somebody whose name we know, now ends up on the Rogan podcast.

1:00:49 To watch how our old industry of corporate news has handled that, to me it's just been really interesting to see from the inside this time as a new media person and not on the inside as a corporate news person how all of this shakes out. So here I am now interviewing the person that my old industry a know if he's the same person you guys are describing. So it really is interesting to see how the different narratives play out when you now actually know the person that the industry is talking about. You can see so much more clearly how these narratives get spun.

CHAPTER 17 / 25 Discussion

Expert Labeling, Media Rhetorical Devices

Alison Morrow and Christy Lee discuss the vague use of the phrase "experts say" as a rhetorical device in newsrooms to avoid accountability. Morrow suggests this phrasing allows journalists to punt responsibility if the information proves incorrect. They also touch on the "widely sourced" claims regarding the Hunter Biden story being Russian disinformation as an example of circular reporting.

experts say· journalism· hunter biden· russian disinformation· news cycle

1:01:44 Let's talk about something else that I know that you are aware of in our industry, in traditional news media. I know that in my newsroom, a popular term with, if we weren't quite sure what to say someone is, was just, oh, just say an expert says, right? So we would say in our story, we would have somebody that could do the interview essentially and we would say, this expert says, and then you have somebody like Dr. Malone who they try and credit and it's just like, well, wait a minute, what constitute as an expert anymore? Because he's a vaccinologist, an immunologist, he's been working with vaccines for 30 plus years.

1:02:23 sat on the board of the Department of Defense. I mean, even if you're going to argue the contentious point of whether or not he created mRNA vaccines, isn't this person still an expert? Right, no, that's such a great point. It's something that I did before I woke up. You're talking about sort of these waking up processes that we go through. And I'm sure many times I would say experts say, just experts say. And I see so clearly now how that's totally inaccurate. It's just all experts say one thing and then there's this guy who says something different. And you're right, it is a rhetorical device that I'm not even sure the vast majority of young journalists especially even know that they're using, where you're just putting up whatever it is that already aligns with

1:03:12 the mainstream acceptable position, especially whatever is acceptable in your newsroom. You're lining that up as the expert opinion against the person who's the outlier. And I tell people all the time that that's one of the reasons that the outliers or the fringe rarely makes it into the mainstream talking points because we have such a high bar for somebody like Dr. Malone that we don't have for say the Department of Health. So if the Department of Health sends us a press release, we just take it and repeat it. Our bar for them, whether we're gonna fact check them is very low. Whereas if Dr. Malone comes to us and says, hey, listen,

1:03:52 the Department of Health is selling you something and I wanna tell you what it is because it's not what you think it is. We go, well, wait a second, we gotta fact check this guy. We need hours or days or even weeks to make sure that he's legit. And with the news cycle the way it is, you often just don't do that. So people like Dr. Malone don't make it in by virtue of just the fact, like I said, we have a very low bar for sort of the mainline establishment institutions and a very high bar for people like Dr. Malone that many of them just really can't cross over. And so we say, well, sorry, you're just not gonna make it in today's news. Or like you said, we'll put them up against the expert. The vague word that we as traditional news accepted as far as like saying experts say. I mean, like it's so vague like that that even became a thing. Like why couldn't we have interviewed somebody like Dr. Malone and called him like vaccinologist or this vaccinologist. But it's just strange to me that even

1:04:49 news as a whole has these vague words they use to describe people. Doctors say, experts say, nurses say. I mean, can't we be more descriptive and more intentional when we're giving stories? Yes, I think it's really important to do that. And I kind of wonder sometimes if part of the reason is just it's either intellectual laziness or it's just again, the speed of the news cycle for whatever the reason is, you're right. You should say this expert at this institution. So you name the person where they work and that way you're at least signaling to the audience that they have buy-in on a particular narrative.

1:05:28 You know, and then this expert who has a different opinion comes from this background instead of just saying experts say I also think that. When we do that, it's to sort of push off responsibility onto the experts, whoever we are talking about. So if we just say experts say, it's a kind of, I think, a legal way that corporate news says, well, we just said experts say, we didn't say it. So if it ends up being entirely wrong and causing the destruction of mankind, we can say, well, the experts say it, you know? It wasn't us. I think it's kind of a way to punt responsibility.

1:06:03 Well, it's funny because when I pointed out a former coworker colleague, basically fake news that he was trying to push at the time, propaganda at the time, his pushback was, it's been widely sourced, this information. I think it had to do with the Hunter Biden story. Oh, it's been widely, he said, it's been widely sourced that it's Russian disinformation. I said, so you're saying your source is that it's been widely sourced. Right. So now we have just sources. Right, yeah. And you know, the other thing too that I think is really unfortunate, Christy, is that... Wait, I want to know what you think is really unfortunate. So that's going to be the tease. You're coming back in the next segment. We're going to find out what Alison Morrow thinks is really unfortunate.

CHAPTER 18 / 25 Discussion

Big Pharma Skepticism, Newsroom Social Pressure

The discussion shifts to the lack of skepticism toward Big Pharma in modern newsrooms, even in traditionally "crunchy" markets like Seattle. Alison Morrow describes the intense social pressure on journalists to fall in line with the COVID narrative to avoid being labeled a "heretic." She argues that the failure to examine conflicts of interest between pharmaceutical companies and government agencies is a betrayal of journalistic tenets.

pfizer· seattle· big pharma· conflicts of interest· self-censorship

1:06:50 Welcome back to InfoWars. This is Christy Lee guest hosting this evening and I'm joined by a fellow independent journalist. She was one of the first to break away from the corporate controlled media and has been doing an amazing job, amazing things since. Is an inspiration to me and I think as you get to know her, you will find her inspiring as well. So Allison Murrow, welcome back. Thank you. It's an honor to be here. So you were saying, and hopefully, I mean, it's been like four minutes, so you might have forgotten by now, but you're saying something else that's really unfortunate. I remember, yes, what I was saying is it's unfortunate that even when the news uses that rhetorical device of saying experts say versus somebody like Dr. Malone says to discredit what he's saying, when did it turn into that journalism is just confirming what everybody already says? That to me, even if all the experts but one says something, that doesn't mean that that journalism is just

1:07:53 promoting what everybody else is saying. Journalism is about finding the one on the outside that has something else to share. Otherwise we're just propaganda or marketing as everybody always says. And here's a wild idea, examining conflicts and motivations of interest. Conflicts of interest and motivations. I mean, that used to be a tenant of journalism, but it's like it completely gets glossed over. There's no digging deeper into why somebody might be saying what they're saying. There's no digging deeper into why some of these people have connections to Pfizer and might want to promote the products. I mean,

1:08:29 I, that's also been, been crazy to see. Have you noticed that as well? Yeah, well, it's yes I have. And I think it's very odd that I worked in a newsroom in Seattle before I quit. And that was a newsroom that I would say would have been teed up to be very skeptical of Because Seattle is a very sort of crunchy, organic type city and that's a market that liked talking about being critical of big pharma. But it's really interesting how everything has shifted during this COVID time. And so even people that you might normally think would be critical of the pharmaceutical industry and

1:09:13 its ties with the government and how all of that plays out, and their intense marketing and pressure on journalists, really, maybe they don't even realize they're becoming victims of their own narrative. Why right now this is a time where you're not supposed to question, you're going to become a heretic, you're going to lead people to the slaughter if you do real journalism. And I think it's intentional when you see people censored or attacked on Twitter, for instance, or like you and I recently got blocked by a journalist for asking questions. When that becomes the norm. I think there is intense social pressure that the average journalist, who is a human being like anybody else, to fall in line. There's a lot of pressure to do that. And I don't think many of them who are falling in line even realize that they're doing that.

CHAPTER 19 / 25 Discussion

Vaccine Story Censorship, Washington State Legislature

Alison Morrow recounts a specific instance of censorship where her news director forbade her from pitching stories about vaccine skepticism during a Washington state legislative debate. The director reportedly compared questioning vaccines to questioning climate change, declaring the topic "untouchable." Morrow identifies this event as the catalyst for her transition to independent journalism.

washington state· vaccine mandate· informed choice washington· news director· censorship

1:10:00 Yeah, and another thing that I think is fascinating is for me what caused me to wake up and start to get red-pilled if you will because let's face it Dr. Malone, you, me, we've all been on this journey of awakening. What did it for me is the intense censorship of the frontline doctors, because I was thinking like, well, if we're going to say doctors say, what about these doctors? You know, why can't we have both sides, novel idea and journalism? So that's what really started to wake me up is just the intense censorship and actual ridicule from fellow journalists, cheering this on of shutting their mouth. And I'm like, what happened to free press and free speech? But for you, it was really personal and actually had to do with the vaccine. So I want you to review that again.

1:10:44 You mean the reason one of the last stories that I was told I wasn't allowed to cover? Yes. Is that what you're talking about? Yeah. So right, this was before COVID and Washington state was debating in the legislature whether There should be mandated vaccines in school with no exemptions. So they were going to take away, I think, the philosophical religious exemption for the vaccines. And so this was a topic that was being debated and we were covering as a news station. Now, I was not personally covering it because I covered the environment. But I had heard that there was a conference of doctors coming to town for Informed Choice Washington, and these were doctors that were concerned about mandated vaccines for all children at schools. And I had never heard about doctors who disagreed with mandated vaccines. I just thought every doctor did. So I was curious to hear what these doctors had to say, and thinking that

1:11:38 my newsroom might be interested in hearing what they had to say instead of just pitting a soccer mom against the Department of Health, I pitched the idea. Now, again, I wasn't going to be the person going to cover it because that wasn't my beat, but I was passing the email along thinking that's what a journalist does. Let's the assignment desk know and another reporter can go cover it. Hey, these doctors are in town. Maybe this would be a way to elevate our coverage because these are actual doctors. Let's put them up against the Department of Health. And my boss told me that I was never allowed to pitch another story about vaccines. If I wanted to pitch it, I had to go directly to him, but I couldn't just send an email to the assignment desk. So imagine being a journalist who, it's not even that you're covering it.

1:12:19 All right, my boss wasn't saying to me that I couldn't go out and cover it because he felt like I was biased or I had other issues. He was literally saying I couldn't pitch the story. I could not even talk about vaccines in the newsroom. Because he said- That is so crazy. Did he give you a reason? It's just, it's unbelievable. Just that he said he wouldn't let anyone question vaccines in the same way he wouldn't let anyone question climate change. That was all that was told to me. Wow. So I would have been with my news director. So you're saying I'm a journalist that's not allowed to ask questions. I mean, essentially, I did say, well, I mean, should I just come to you and never pitch anything ever in the news or ever again? I mean, this is starting to get ridiculous. Obviously, that was the beginning, really, of the end for me. We were running a stand for truth campaign at the time, a big marketing campaign in our area. And I remember saying to people at the time, stand for truth, except for

1:13:12 vaccines and a few other things, you know, because we don't ask questions there. But, Christy, I was taken totally aback. I never faced anything that blatant as far as censorship is concerned. We could talk all day about subtle self-censorship and editorializing and that kind of stuff in newsrooms, but I never had anything like that happen. So for that to happen on vaccines, that really woke me up, that vaccines were for the

1:14:06 is Whatever the topic is signals to you that there are untouchable topics. If you're someone who's like really nervous about keeping your job, you're not just going to start censoring on that topic. You're going to start looking over your shoulder on a lot of different things. And that's a major problem in newsrooms these days. Managers that are saying to people, you're not allowed to question. There are topics that are just completely untouchable. off limit for you and you better be careful. It's just so crazy that this is the current state of our current newsrooms and we need more journalists to wake up, we need more of society to wake up, that this is how this is functioning, that journalists are actually discouraged from asking questions. Now before you go, do you have any comment on this whole mass formation psychosis and people's intrigue with it and Dr. Malone talking about it?

CHAPTER 20 / 25 Discussion

Psychology of Journalism, Critical Thinking Training

Alison Morrow, who holds a Master of Divinity with a specialization in psychology, suggests that new journalists need training in the "psychology or spirituality of journalism." She argues that the divide between those who ask questions and those who follow orders is rooted in psychological makeup rather than technical skill. Morrow directs listeners to her Locals community for further discussion on these themes.

psychology· spirituality· journalism school· critical thinking· alison morrow

1:15:05 I'm fascinated by it. I have a master's degree, actually a master divinity degree with a specialization in psychology and counseling. And I honestly think, Chrissy, I've said if I teach a college class for journalists, I wanna teach the psychology or the spirituality of journalism because I think there is so much here to pick apart if you were to start really trying to give new journalists a better start at getting into the field as critical thinkers. I really believe that this is the heart of how training and critical thinking needs to be relayed to people who want to get into journalism. You can learn how to hold a camera, you can learn how to edit, you can learn how to write on the job, but this is something that I think more people need to be paying attention to because I don't have any other way to explain, honestly,

1:15:55 why I see some people wanting to ask questions and other people that think it's just completely off limits in the journalism world. I really have no other way to understand it other than psychology or even spirituality. So I- Absolutely, I mean, there's definitely the spiritual element to this. I just want you to be able to pitch where we can find you real quick before you go. Yeah, please find me at AllisonMorrow.locals.com. It's Allison with one L, Morrow.locals.com. Very important, Allison with one L, Locals.com. Allison Morrow, right? Yep. Awesome. I know people are going to want more from you. Thank you.

CHAPTER 21 / 25 Discussion

Cloth Mask Ineffectiveness, CDC and CNN Admissions

Christy Lee presents clips of CNN analysts and health officials admitting that cloth masks provide little protection against airborne viruses like COVID-19. She highlights the irony of schools still requiring cloth masks despite these admissions. The segment argues that what was once labeled "misinformation" on InfoWars is now being confirmed by mainstream sources.

cloth masks· cdc· cnn· airborne transmission· n95

1:16:33 Welcome back to Info Wars, this is Christy Lee guest hosting. This is our final segment and then Harrison Smith will be taking over for Sunday Night Live, taking your phone calls and covering his important news subjects. I didn't get to a lot of the stuff that I wanted to talk about because we've been talking about other things and reviewing. The videos that are going viral now, particularly the videos between Joe Rogan and Robert Malone, and then our own interview with Robert Malone, which you can find on VN.video. And there is a highlights version that we were showing clips of earlier that you can also share if, for those of your friends and family that can only have snackable contents.

1:17:11 That is about 15 minutes as opposed to the three hour long Joe Rogan interview or the hour plus full interview with myself. So I wanted to get to some other content to close out the show. We were talking about how I'm just continuing to see more articles about requiring students to be masked when they go back to school, even in Texas where there's supposed to be a mask, a mandate against the mask mandates. The school still sends out an email that they're requiring masks. Meanwhile, even those that have been touting mask usage are now saying that cloth masks don't work. I want to show you that video. Here it is, number one.

1:17:53 Tell us something Andy. Watching Mayor de Blasio. Sorry, here we go. And concerned about sending my son back into a preschool even with a mask on. What do you tell parents? Are cloth masks just not good enough anymore? anymore. Cloth masks aren't going to provide a lot of protection. That's the bottom line. This is an airborne illness. We now understand that and a cloth mask is not going to protect you from a virus that spreads through airborne transmission. It could protect better through droplet transmission, something like the flu, but not something like this coronavirus. We have to recognize this has not been a benign disease in young children. There's a perception that young children...

1:18:37 what What types of things that you got called misinformation or censored for if you said these masks don't work, particularly the ones that everyone's wearing? How many people do you see actually walking around in the grocery store or students in school that have an N95 mask? always worn the cloth masks. And so now we're actually hearing the admittance that they don't work, yet they are still pushing them. It makes no sense. It's really hard to understand how this is all playing out. Now I did want to bring in, oh, actually I want to talk about this. So I saw this article, this is a little bit older, but it was just reposted from one of the local news stations. Japanese professor invents TV screen that you can lick.

CHAPTER 22 / 25 Discussion

Lickable TV Screen, Japanese Technology Prototype

A Japanese professor, Yuki Hou, has developed a prototype TV screen that users can lick to taste food flavors. Christy Lee mocks the invention as unsanitary and poorly timed given the global emphasis on hygiene and virus transmission. The technology uses a carousel of canisters to spray a combination of flavored liquids onto a plastic film.

japan· lickable tv· yuki hou· technology· hygiene

1:19:35 We're talking about all these ways to stay healthy and not contaminate, wear masks and stay at home, whatever. And then you see this article, oh, Japanese professor invents a TV screen that you can lick. So my thought is like, wow, that sounds really sanitary. Doesn't that look sanitary? I can watch something with, with ice cream and then I'll lick it. Oh, it tastes great here. You want to taste it too? And then we're just passing germs. back and forth isn't this great? You know, it's like they don't even believe their own lies. So it says a Japanese university student, Yuki who I'm not sure if I'm saying that right, tells the machine she wants to eat chocolate and moments later a transparent film with liquid droplets slides out on top of a screen showing luscious gooey chocolate.

1:20:16 This is so gross. Who licks the film? It actually tastes like milk chocolate. It's sweet and tasty, she says in a demonstration of a prototype lickable TV screen that can imitate food flavors. So then this article goes, I'm thinking like, okay, this seems like the totally wrong time to bring something out like this. If they're going to be touting cloth masks and then, oh wait, look, here's something y'all can lick. and pass around. But this actually mentions COVID. It says in the COVID-19 era, it's in the same article, this is insane. This kind of technology can enhance the way people connect and interact. What? I'm so confused. In the COVID-19 era, this kind of technology can enhance the way people connect and interact with the outside world. So if you're at home, you can just lick your screen. It's gonna be great. Pass it to your family members, friends, and you can all just lick the same thing.

1:21:08 But wear a mask at the same time. This is the idiocy, it's insane. Well, as long as we're talking about idiocy, it seems that it takes being inebriated to recognize, for some, for those on the left, it takes them being inebriated to recognize the idiocy perhaps. I think that's what we were getting from New Year's Eve. Take a look at this clip number two. Tell us something Andy. Watching Mayor de Blasio. Don't go on a rant. To his victory lap dance. After four years of the crappiest term as the mayor of New York. Anderson Cooper is so uncomfortable with this. The only thing that Democrats and Republicans can agree on is what a horrible mayor he has been. So sayonara, sucka.

CHAPTER 23 / 25 Discussion

Andy Cohen New Year's Eve Rant, Bill de Blasio

During CNN's New Year's Eve coverage, host Andy Cohen went on a televised rant against outgoing New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio. Cohen called de Blasio the "worst mayor in the history of the city" while Anderson Cooper appeared visibly uncomfortable. Christy Lee suggests that it takes inebriation for mainstream media figures to speak the truth about failed Democratic leadership.

andy cohen· bill de blasio· new york city· anderson cooper· cnn

1:22:02 Wow. 2022! I mean... It's a new year, because guess what? I have a feeling... Speaking of which... I'm gonna be standing right here next year, and you know who I'm not gonna be looking at? Dancing as the city comes apart! You! So that's what it takes, I guess, to get some rational thought and some acceptance of what's really going on. You got to think about this. Andy Cohen was standing in New York, which is always packed, you know, when the ball drops and he's standing there was like nobody there. I'm sure you saw the pictures. It was like nobody there. They're all.

1:22:39 scared out of their minds. I mean, they were able to truck in some drag queens and some wokeness for the event, of course, but nobody else was there, only the woke people. And he's actually saying what everybody else is thinking, that like, sayonara to the worst mayor ever. And Anderson Cooper is just so uncomfortable. He's like, oh, he's breaking from the narrative. What are you gonna do? That wasn't approved to say on the stew station. So just a riot to see, I guess that's what it takes is for a little drink, Senor, to be able to speak the truth. So what else can I talk about? Oh, and speaking of BS on the news, what about our friend BS, Brian Stelter, having, oh my gosh, like having a full on breakdown. Let's take a look at clip number three.

CHAPTER 24 / 25 Discussion

Brian Stelter, January 6th Trauma Coverage

CNN's Brian Stelter is criticized for his coverage of the "trauma" experienced by reporters during the January 6th Capitol riot. Christy Lee argues that the media ignores the violence associated with BLM protests while obsessing over the events of January 6th. She predicts "wall-to-wall" emotional coverage as the anniversary of the event approaches.

brian stelter· cnn· january 6· capitol riot· media trauma

1:23:27 And we're still learning more about the attack and we're still processing what it meant to the country and to our lives. So Hunter, is there a disconnect between the people who were there that day in DC and the people who were not? You know, someone like me who only watched it on TV, will I ever really get it? You know, I think this was a really unique incident in part because of when it happened during the pandemic. This was a pre-vaccination moment and a lot of the DC press corps was, you know, working from home, working remotely, and unless they were the Capitol Hill press corps like I believe Grace was or someone like myself who went out to cover the protests, they didn't see this firsthand. And while

1:24:06 You know, we were there on scene due to the crowds, due to the law enforcement response, cell signals were jammed. So there was a bit of a delay also in that footage getting out. That's a great point. And I think that distance... Alright, let's pull out of that. So there was a delay in that footage getting out. What about the delay in the footage of the rest of the footage that we need to be able to see? It's insane. So Brian Stalter is saying watch how this Twitter user mocks reporters for talking candidly about the trauma, the trauma associated with a capital attack. Insane, but they don't ever talk about the violence that was perpetuated by BLM, about the burning down at the mostly peaceful protests. It's insane. Like I always say, his name is Brian Stelter, initials BS, and it's oh so fitting with how he reports the news. And think about it, this is not even the anniversary.

1:25:00 of January 6th. Can you imagine the meltdown that we're gonna see the wall to wall coverage on MSM on January 6th? Might as well just turn your TVs completely off because they're probably gonna be crying. They're gonna be pulling out their hair. It's gonna be insane. Yeah, this isn't even on January 6th yet and they're still having a conniption over this. And they continue to, of course, elevate the numbers, including suicides days and months later, including the officer that was supposedly bludgeoned by a fire extinguisher, even though that was made up and completely fake, phony and false. Never talking about Ashley Babbitt. But I mean, when you have that big of a head, I guess you just, you know.

CHAPTER 25 / 25 Discussion

Amsterdam Anti-Lockdown Protest, Police Violence

Footage from Amsterdam shows police using dogs and batons to disperse an unauthorized protest against COVID-19 restrictions. Christy Lee contrasts the "real violence" and loss of freedom in Europe with the "trauma" claimed by American journalists. She notes that mainstream news anchors rarely show the same level of concern for citizens being mauled by police dogs during freedom protests.

amsterdam· netherlands· police brutality· lockdown protest· covid restrictions

1:25:42 drive yourself crazy. I don't know, but it's insane to see and so easy to make fun of. But speaking of violence, I don't know if we have time to throw a little bit of seriousness into this. Take a look at what was happening in Amsterdam real quick, just to end out the show. Number four. Now that's craziness. That is people mauled by police, dogs beaten with batons at an unauthorized protest against COVID restrictions in Amsterdam. So these people are protesting for freedom and this is the response they get, mauled by dogs. That's true violence. I don't see any of the news anchors crying about that.

1:26:44 crying about the actual loss of our freedom, crying and having trauma over the fact that our country is sinking and people are dying and people are being held from the life-saving truth, life-saving treatment. How about you feel traumatic about that? Brian Stelter, thanks for watching. Ladies and gentlemen, you know InfoWars is not going to give up or give in. And your support over the years is the only reason why we're still on air and quite frankly it's a miracle. I think in the new World Order timeline they really did not expect us to still be on air. And that's why they're pulling out all the stops right now to try to destroy us. You see about 25% probably of the attacks against us. Maybe now that some of it's getting more public it's closer to 50 but still just the tip of the iceberg. But you and the audience